=== falktx__ is now known as falktx [02:00] micahg, regarding the SRU for the ubuntustudio-metapackage update for indicator-sound-gtk2, the SRU wiki references a previous bug report, do i need to create this bug report as well, then mark it "fix release" as note? [02:00] or just move directly to filling a bug for the SRU? [02:04] scott-upstairs: you can use the bug that documents the issue and was fixed, if one does not, file one [02:04] *not exist [02:04] aye, will do, thank you [02:05] scott-upstairs: I can give you a bug task if you need [02:06] i'm not familiar with a bug 'task', can you explain what it is [02:06] release specific task (i.e. nominate for release) [02:06] micahg, i was just going to file a bug against ubuntustudio-meta package [02:07] micahg, if you think that is a preferable way then i will do so [02:07] that's fine, afterwards, you need someone to nominate or accept a task for the release you want to fixx it in [02:10] micahg, would it expedite the process for you to give me a bug task? [02:10] it's part of the process :) [02:13] sorry, getting distracted by family and too many things going on [02:32] ugh :) [02:35] i'm going to have to finish this tomorrow as i need to address a few things with the kids: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/+bug/891456 [02:35] Launchpad bug 891456 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound-gtk2 missing from ubuntustudio-meta in oneiric" [Undecided,Fix released] [02:37] * knome addressed a few things with skaet [02:37] scott-upstairs, ^ [02:38] knome, about what? [02:38] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu [02:40] knome, it would appear that you have a single blueprint as a dependency [02:41] yeah, haven't just yet added the rest [02:41] but we are on our way [02:41] scott-upstairs: not sure it's actually fixed in precise, that should be done first [02:43] scott-upstairs: you'll also need the SRU justification when you get a chance [02:43] * micahg thought astraljava was working on this though [02:43] micahg, okay, i should have done 'fix committed' then since it has been pushed to bzr? [02:44] i'm waiting eagerly when we will show up at status.ubuntu.com [02:45] knome, we had similar problems, it took some tweaking to get all the blueprints right and changing settings to accomplish....and waiting for the cron job to scrub through and pick things up [02:45] well, is it fix committed in precise? cjwatson just did an upload the other day [02:45] scott-upstairs, yup. [02:45] we'll see [02:45] micahg, oh, sorry, no it is not [02:46] * scott-upstairs finally comprehends that written statement [02:46] right, so that's the first step :0 [02:46] :) [02:46] * knome gives the huge round of applauds [02:46] *clap* *clap* [02:46] s/applauds/applause/ [02:46] micahg: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [02:46] lol, i told you i was distracted ;) [02:46] micahg, BAH! it's almost 5am... [02:47] * micahg wonders how US got kubotu [02:47] excellent question, for which i do not have an answer [02:47] * micahg hugs kubotu [02:47] juss.i finnaly muted him, which appears to have become unmuted [02:47] i tried to kick him but he kept coming back [02:48] lol [02:48] knome, sorry to ask you this now....will you have any time to help with the website further? [02:48] yeah, i will [02:48] i have load of time on weekend nights [02:49] so i'll try to have a sprint on that too :) [02:49] i am very, very anxious to make this happen and fear it is not making the progress expect :( [02:49] don't worry [02:49] knome, i'll look through my notes from the discussion with stochastic and collate them for presenting to you [02:49] okay, that would be great [02:49] clear instructions always make you feel like working ;) [02:49] i don't think anything was complicated at all, just some tedious setting up some pages, etc [02:50] aye, clear instructions do that, the blueprints are doing it for me certainly [02:50] mm-hmm [02:50] i'll handle the content once the pages are created [02:50] okay [02:50] that's easy to do [02:50] if you have a list handy, i could do that now :P [02:50] knome, i was impressed by the xubuntu website sprint :) i hadn't even considered such a thing [02:50] mm-hmm [02:51] we've been thinking about the content too long now [02:51] just need to get it in order [02:51] especially as we are all set to publish, except for the content [02:51] alas, i do not have the list handy, i'm helping the kids (sort of 'cause i;m typing too) and the laptop is downstairs with the converstation hopefully still in backscroll [02:52] heh, okay [02:52] i'll go to bed then [02:52] see you tomorrow [09:37] hi [12:42] i wonder if i should receive all the bug mail about ubuntu studio [12:42] :| [12:44] mmm [12:45] knome: Depends whether you want to feel good regarding how bugs are treated at your side of the fence. [12:59] micahg, funny tidbit - i was slightly confused last night about fixing the bug in precise and your comments about "was it fixed in precise first" and i was wondering "how was i supposed to know that to do that" even though i had read the SRU wiki page last night [12:59] as i said, i was pretty distracted with the kids and doing several things myself [13:00] first thing when i woke up i realized, "duh! #2 development fix means to fix it in the development branch of ubuntu studio...i.e. precise!. duh!" [13:01] i'm being serious too, woke up and started going to wake the daughter and the first serious concious thought was that :) [13:10] upon reflection i realize that this was probably an embarrassingly stupid mistake but i'm pretty open and forthcoming, even about my mistake ;) [13:11] but i also learned something something that i will not forget (even when distracted) so i think it's good :) [13:11] but i do look forward to getting more into packaging and package management and getting more practical experience behind me [13:33] Ok, I haven't read the SRU wiki yet, so I'll fix it in precise now. [13:38] ScottL: micahg: precise seeds updated [13:38] precisely! [13:40] Funny now, but I wonder if we're jumping into each other's throats later into the cycle. [13:42] Just got to remember to be extra precise [13:42] *facepalm* [13:47] ailo: You're yet another finn, right? [14:04] l33o, looks like you have problems with the connection. do you think there is something you could do about it? [14:06] sorry [14:06] what do you mean exactly?? [14:06] knome: Hide joins/parts, *snap*, problem solved. [14:07] you've been disconnecting and connecting, have you noticed that? [14:07] yeah [14:07] i have to reboot to change bios and rtirq settings [14:07] astraljava, then i won't be able to see when you part so i can start talking bad things about you. [14:07] l33o, okay. :) [14:07] but you may be right [14:07] good to know it's not unintentional [14:07] astraljava, Finnish, born in Sweden. Like linus, but the other way around [14:08] since i have my adriana grub splash screen i enjoy rebooting hehehehe [14:08] Well, not that Finnish-Swedes are Swedes [14:09] i think its good that you told me [14:09] knome: Why wouldn't you talk bad things about me in my presence? I hardly care. [14:09] ;] [14:09] you're such a sweetheart. [14:09] sometimes irc clients reconnect or loose connection during high latencies and sometimes the user dont notice that [14:09] so good to know [14:09] ailo: Ahh... ok. [14:09] thank you [14:10] i start watching a tv show..you know becker [14:10] Karjalainen / Savolainen. I get to be from many places [14:10] becker or beck? [14:10] becker [14:11] when i started watching it that i somehow can connect to this tv show [14:11] some how i am a lil unfriendly too [14:11] very sad and dissapointed - never the less i am tryig to be a good guy [14:11] so now at maybe episode 14 he talks about a girl ( his ex) he can never forget [14:13] her name is..what a funny coincidence: sandra....the name of that girl i cant never forget - who broke my heart and destroyed my dignity [14:13] i really do belive that here in universe 1 averything is connected with everything [14:14] thats why you cant shield waves like gravity - thats why everything is connected [14:14] sorry [14:14] talked too much - still headache ouch [14:16] huh? :P [14:16] yeah [14:17] i think tonite i will do my 6 terrabyte back up.. [14:17] doing it at night - being afraid of the vibrations at day time [14:18] changing now completely to ext4 - like google ;) [19:19] cd .. [20:04] byeee [21:56] ;) [21:57] sorry, that i am disturbing again - is there a way/a chance to get the lowlatency headers installed ? [21:57] tried everything - still not able to install that [22:00] l33_: from where are you getting the -lowlatency kernel? [22:01] from Alessio Igor Bogani ppa [22:01] i thought its the same then the lowlatency kernel at kxstudio and at ubuntu studio [22:04] l33_: the linux-meta-* package has the headers in it [22:04] scott-work, you might be interested in our latest blueprint. [22:04] thank you [22:04] scott-work, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-xubuntu-menu-managing [22:05] hey knome..you prefer xubuntu over lubuntu ? [22:05] l33_, i suppose, as i'm the xubuntu project lead ;] [22:05] didnt know that [22:05] ;) [22:05] now you do :) [22:06] i am allways looking for optimisations...can you tell me one reason why i should use xfce instead oflubuntu? [22:06] if you want the lightest possible ubuntu, you should use lubuntu [22:07] i mean xubuntu instead of lubuntu [22:07] okay....thats what i am doin [22:07] is there better gtk22/gtk3 compatibility with xubuntu ? [22:07] or maybe something like fluxbuntu can be compared [22:07] greybird is the most complete gtk2+gtk3 theme there is [22:08] looks really nice [22:08] reminds me a lil of osx [22:08] just a very lil [22:09] it is a bit similar, but definitely not meant to copy apple too much [22:09] hehehe [22:09] brb [22:09] c ya [22:10] is there a special trick when compiling kernel modules for the lowlatency kernel ? [22:10] i do have a rme soundcard and i got some nice drivers/modules which i have to make first....this worked well with the generic kernel but now with the lowlatency one [22:11] seems that there is a systemlink to usr/src misssin here in /lib/modules/linux-lowlatency-3.013/build [22:14] knome: i like! i like! [22:15] one thing that studio needs to do also is to get freedesktop to adjust or create new categories for audio programs [22:15] like plugins or synths [22:15] huh? [22:15] you just add the categories to the .menu file, and in the .desktop files [22:16] scott-work, edii @ #xubuntu-devel can probably tell you even more [22:17] we hacked on the menu stuff today, and we're pretty much done in the investigation part, now we just need to simply create the pathces/code [22:18] why is ubuntu-studio based now on xfce and not on lxde...? [22:20] i mean, xruns are surely a serious topic, so getting the system so lean as possible helps getting closer to realtime performance [22:21] why choosing a lil more memory consuming desktop environment? [22:22] re boot [22:22] when you go to a less memory consuming DE's, you are always losing some of the features and user-friendliness [22:27] knome: ah, it had been suggested that i try to adjust the framework (i.e. freedesktop categories) rather than laboriously hack the menu file [22:28] hmm [22:31] we used to hack the menu ourselves before moving to xfce [22:58] scott-work, not that switching to xfce generally would fix the issue, since you the menus are still using the same spec ;) [23:04] we are islands and never too far, we are islands... [23:16] nite