[02:00] <scott-upstairs> micahg, regarding the SRU for the ubuntustudio-metapackage update for indicator-sound-gtk2, the SRU wiki references a previous bug report, do i need to create this bug report as well, then mark it "fix release" as note?
[02:00] <scott-upstairs> or just move directly to filling a bug for the SRU?
[02:04] <micahg> scott-upstairs: you can use the bug that documents the issue and was fixed, if one does not, file one
[02:04] <micahg> *not exist
[02:04] <scott-upstairs> aye, will do, thank you
[02:05] <micahg> scott-upstairs: I can give you a bug task if you need
[02:06] <scott-upstairs> i'm not familiar with a bug 'task', can you explain what it is
[02:06] <micahg> release specific task (i.e. nominate for release)
[02:06] <scott-upstairs> micahg, i was just going to file a bug against ubuntustudio-meta package
[02:07] <scott-upstairs> micahg, if you think that is a preferable way then i will do so
[02:07] <micahg> that's fine, afterwards, you need someone to nominate or accept a task for the release you want to fixx it in
[02:10] <scott-upstairs> micahg, would it expedite the process for you to give me a bug task?
[02:10] <micahg> it's part of the process :)
[02:13] <scott-upstairs> sorry, getting distracted by family and too many things going on
[02:32] <knome> ugh :)
[02:35] <scott-upstairs> i'm going to have to finish this tomorrow as i need to address a few things with the kids:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/+bug/891456
[02:37]  * knome addressed a few things with skaet
[02:37] <knome> scott-upstairs, ^
[02:38] <scott-upstairs> knome, about what?
[02:38] <knome> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu
[02:40] <scott-upstairs> knome, it would appear that you have a single blueprint as a dependency
[02:41] <knome> yeah, haven't just yet added the rest
[02:41] <knome> but we are on our way
[02:41] <micahg> scott-upstairs: not sure it's actually fixed in precise, that should be done first
[02:43] <micahg> scott-upstairs: you'll also need the SRU justification when you get a chance
[02:43]  * micahg thought astraljava was working on this though
[02:43] <scott-upstairs> micahg, okay, i should have done 'fix committed' then since it has been pushed to bzr?
[02:44] <knome> i'm waiting eagerly when we will show up at status.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <scott-upstairs> knome, we had similar problems, it took some tweaking to get all the blueprints right and changing settings to accomplish....and waiting for the cron job to scrub through and pick things up
[02:45] <micahg> well, is it fix committed in precise? cjwatson just did an upload the other day
[02:45] <knome> scott-upstairs, yup. 
[02:45] <knome> we'll see
[02:45] <scott-upstairs> micahg, oh, sorry, no it is not
[02:46]  * scott-upstairs finally comprehends that written statement
[02:46] <micahg> right, so that's the first step :0
[02:46] <micahg> :)
[02:46]  * knome gives the huge round of applauds
[02:46] <knome> *clap*                         *clap*
[02:46] <micahg> s/applauds/applause/
[02:46] <kubotu> micahg: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[02:46] <scott-upstairs> lol, i told you i was distracted ;)
[02:46] <knome> micahg, BAH! it's almost 5am...
[02:47]  * micahg wonders how US got kubotu
[02:47] <scott-upstairs> excellent question, for which i do not have an answer
[02:47]  * micahg hugs kubotu
[02:47] <scott-upstairs> juss.i finnaly muted him, which appears to have become unmuted
[02:47] <scott-upstairs> i tried to kick him but he kept coming back
[02:48] <knome> lol
[02:48] <scott-upstairs> knome, sorry to ask you this now....will you have any time to help with the website further?
[02:48] <knome> yeah, i will
[02:48] <knome> i have load of time on weekend nights
[02:49] <knome> so i'll try to have a sprint on that too :)
[02:49] <scott-upstairs> i am very, very anxious to make this happen and fear it is not making the progress expect :(
[02:49] <knome> don't worry
[02:49] <scott-upstairs> knome, i'll look through my notes from the discussion with stochastic and collate them for presenting to you
[02:49] <knome> okay, that would be great
[02:49] <knome> clear instructions always make you feel like working ;)
[02:49] <scott-upstairs> i don't think anything was complicated at all, just some tedious setting up some pages, etc
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> aye, clear instructions do that, the blueprints are doing it for me certainly
[02:50] <knome> mm-hmm
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> i'll handle the content once the pages are created
[02:50] <knome> okay
[02:50] <knome> that's easy to do
[02:50] <knome> if you have a list handy, i could do that now :P
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> knome, i was impressed by the xubuntu website sprint :)  i hadn't even considered such a thing
[02:50] <knome> mm-hmm
[02:51] <knome> we've been thinking about the content too long now
[02:51] <knome> just need to get it in order
[02:51] <knome> especially as we are all set to publish, except for the content
[02:51] <scott-upstairs> alas, i do not have the list handy, i'm helping the kids (sort of 'cause i;m typing too) and the laptop is downstairs with the converstation hopefully still in backscroll 
[02:52] <knome> heh, okay
[02:52] <knome> i'll go to bed then
[02:52] <knome> see you tomorrow
[09:37] <l33o> hi
[12:42] <knome> i wonder if i should receive all the bug mail about ubuntu studio
[12:42] <knome> :|
[12:44] <l33o> mmm
[12:45] <astraljava> knome: Depends whether you want to feel good regarding how bugs are treated at your side of the fence.
[12:59] <ScottL> micahg, funny tidbit - i was slightly confused last night about fixing the bug in precise and your comments about "was it fixed in precise first" and i was wondering "how was i supposed to know that to do that" even though i had read the SRU wiki page last night
[12:59] <ScottL> as i said, i was pretty distracted with the kids and doing several things myself
[13:00] <ScottL> first thing when i woke up i realized, "duh!  #2 development fix means to fix it in the development branch of ubuntu studio...i.e. precise!.  duh!"
[13:01] <ScottL> i'm being serious too, woke up and started going to wake the daughter and the first serious concious thought was that :)
[13:10] <ScottL> upon reflection i realize that this was probably an embarrassingly stupid mistake but i'm pretty open and forthcoming, even about my mistake ;)
[13:11] <ScottL> but i also learned something something that i will not forget (even when distracted) so i think it's good :)
[13:11] <ScottL> but i do look forward to getting more into packaging and package management and getting more practical experience behind me
[13:33] <astraljava> Ok, I haven't read the SRU wiki yet, so I'll fix it in precise now.
[13:38] <astraljava> ScottL: micahg: precise seeds updated
[13:38] <ailo> precisely!
[13:40] <astraljava> Funny now, but I wonder if we're jumping into each other's throats later into the cycle.
[13:42] <ailo> Just got to remember to be extra precise
[13:42] <astraljava> *facepalm*
[13:47] <astraljava> ailo: You're yet another finn, right?
[14:04] <knome> l33o, looks like you have problems with the connection. do you think there is something you could do about it?
[14:06] <l33o> sorry
[14:06] <l33o> what do you mean exactly??
[14:06] <astraljava> knome: Hide joins/parts, *snap*, problem solved.
[14:07] <knome> you've been disconnecting and connecting, have you noticed that?
[14:07] <l33o> yeah
[14:07] <l33o> i have to reboot to change bios and rtirq settings
[14:07] <knome> astraljava, then i won't be able to see when you part so i can start talking bad things about you.
[14:07] <knome> l33o, okay. :)
[14:07] <l33o> but you may be right
[14:07] <knome> good to know it's not unintentional
[14:07] <ailo> astraljava, Finnish, born in Sweden. Like linus, but the other way around
[14:08] <l33o> since i have my adriana grub splash screen i enjoy rebooting hehehehe
[14:08] <ailo> Well, not that Finnish-Swedes are Swedes
[14:09] <l33o> i think its good that you told me
[14:09] <astraljava> knome: Why wouldn't you talk bad things about me in my presence? I hardly care.
[14:09] <knome> ;]
[14:09] <knome> you're such a sweetheart.
[14:09] <l33o> sometimes irc clients reconnect or loose connection during high latencies and sometimes the user dont notice that
[14:09] <l33o> so good to know
[14:09] <astraljava> ailo: Ahh... ok.
[14:09] <l33o> thank you
[14:10] <l33o> i start watching a tv show..you know becker
[14:10] <ailo> Karjalainen / Savolainen. I get to be from many places
[14:10] <knome> becker or beck?
[14:10] <l33o> becker
[14:11] <l33o> when i started watching it that i somehow can connect to this tv show
[14:11] <l33o> some how i am a lil unfriendly too
[14:11] <l33o> very sad and dissapointed -  never the less i am tryig to be a good guy
[14:11] <l33o> so now at maybe episode 14 he talks about a girl ( his ex) he can never forget
[14:13] <l33o> her name is..what a funny coincidence: sandra....the name of that girl i cant never forget - who broke my heart  and destroyed my dignity
[14:13] <l33o> i really do belive that here in universe 1 averything is connected with everything
[14:14] <l33o> thats why you cant shield waves like gravity - thats why everything is connected
[14:14] <l33o> sorry
[14:14] <l33o> talked too much - still headache  ouch
[14:16] <knome> huh? :P
[14:16] <l33o> yeah
[14:17] <l33o> i think tonite i will do my 6 terrabyte back up..
[14:17] <l33o> doing it at night -  being afraid of the vibrations at day time
[14:18] <l33o> changing now completely to ext4 - like google ;)
[19:19] <chrislan> cd ..
[20:04] <l33o> byeee
[21:56] <l33_> ;)
[21:57] <l33_> sorry, that i am disturbing again - is there a way/a chance to get the lowlatency headers installed ?
[21:57] <l33_> tried everything - still not able to install that
[22:00] <scott-work> l33_: from where are you getting the -lowlatency kernel?
[22:01] <l33_> from Alessio Igor Bogani ppa
[22:01] <l33_> i thought its the same then the lowlatency kernel at kxstudio and at ubuntu studio
[22:04] <scott-work> l33_: the linux-meta-* package has the headers in it
[22:04] <knome> scott-work, you might be interested in our latest blueprint.
[22:04] <l33_> thank you
[22:04] <knome> scott-work, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-xubuntu-menu-managing
[22:05] <l33_> hey knome..you prefer xubuntu over lubuntu ?
[22:05] <knome> l33_, i suppose, as i'm the xubuntu project lead ;]
[22:05] <l33_> didnt know that 
[22:05] <l33_> ;)
[22:05] <knome> now you do :)
[22:06] <l33_> i am allways looking for optimisations...can you tell me one reason why i should use xfce instead oflubuntu?
[22:06] <knome> if you want the lightest possible ubuntu, you should use lubuntu
[22:07] <l33_> i mean xubuntu instead of lubuntu
[22:07] <l33_> okay....thats what i am doin
[22:07] <l33_> is there better gtk22/gtk3 compatibility with xubuntu ?
[22:07] <knome> or maybe something like fluxbuntu can be compared
[22:07] <knome> greybird is the most complete gtk2+gtk3 theme there is
[22:08] <l33_> looks really nice
[22:08] <l33_> reminds me a lil of osx
[22:08] <l33_> just a very lil
[22:09] <knome> it is a bit similar, but definitely not meant to copy apple too much
[22:09] <l33_> hehehe
[22:09] <knome> brb
[22:09] <l33_> c ya
[22:10] <l33_> is there a special trick when compiling kernel modules for the lowlatency kernel ?
[22:10] <l33_> i do have a rme soundcard and i got some nice drivers/modules which i have to make first....this worked well with the generic kernel but now with the lowlatency one
[22:11] <l33_> seems that there is a systemlink to usr/src misssin here in /lib/modules/linux-lowlatency-3.013/build
[22:14] <scott-work> knome: i like! i like!
[22:15] <scott-work> one thing that studio needs to do also is to get freedesktop to adjust or create new categories for audio programs
[22:15] <scott-work> like plugins or synths
[22:15] <knome> huh?
[22:15] <knome> you just add the categories to the .menu file, and in the .desktop files
[22:16] <knome> scott-work, edii @ #xubuntu-devel can probably tell you even more
[22:17] <knome> we hacked on the menu stuff today, and we're pretty much done in the investigation part, now we just need to simply create the pathces/code
[22:18] <l33_> why is ubuntu-studio based now on xfce and not on lxde...?
[22:20] <l33_> i mean, xruns are surely a serious topic, so getting the system so lean as possible helps getting closer to realtime performance
[22:21] <l33_> why choosing a lil more memory consuming desktop environment?
[22:22] <l33_> re boot
[22:22] <knome> when you go to a less memory consuming DE's, you are always losing some of the features and user-friendliness
[22:27] <scott-work> knome: ah, it had been suggested that i try to adjust the framework (i.e. freedesktop categories) rather than laboriously hack the menu file
[22:28] <knome> hmm
[22:31] <scott-work> we used to hack the menu ourselves before moving to xfce
[22:58] <knome> scott-work, not that switching to xfce generally would fix the issue, since you the menus are still using the same spec ;)
[23:04] <l33o> we are islands and never too far, we are islands...
[23:16] <l33o> nite