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pooliehi?05:08
pooliei wonder if pqm is just not sending error messages at all05:08
poolieooh, or maybe there is a size limit05:08
vilahi all !07:34
pooliehi there vila07:55
pooliei liked your option expansion patch07:55
* vila happily shudders :)07:56
vilathe HPSS glitch found by jelmer is a serious (and depressing) issue which was well hidden behind a @property that took me off-guard07:57
vilahopefully it can addressed with some additional store classes (jelmer said he was looking at it)07:58
vilas/can/can be/07:58
vilaha ! pylzma fmp finally landed, poolie, what was the issue ?08:01
pooliei think it made every test fail in the original version08:02
poolieand that was so much bad news the mta dropped it08:03
vilahehe08:03
mgzmorning all09:08
vilamgz: hey !09:12
denihi everyone09:15
denii have a question about chmod and bazaar09:15
deniafaik when i change the file permissions bazaar lists that as a change09:16
deniis there any way to avoid this? to tell bazaar to ignore file permissions changes09:16
deni?09:16
mgzbzr only tracks the excecutable bit09:17
mgzyou can either just not worry about bzr telling you that has changed, or er...09:18
poolieo/ mgz09:19
mgzthere were some bugs involving windows/cygwin where the excecutability was changing all the time, but most things shouldn't be changing it09:19
* mgz waves at vila and poolie09:20
vilapqm failure on bzrlib.tests.test_test_server.TestTCPServerInAThread.test_handle_request_closes_if_it_doesnt_process(TestingTCPServer) :-) :-/ :-(09:23
poolieso new buildd stuff is almost but not actually deployde09:24
mgzit's teasing everyone :)09:25
denimgz: yeah i just found that bug09:30
mgzdeni: ah, is that what you were running into? have you got the bug number and done +affectsmeto as well?09:33
poolieincidentally my affects count across dupes is now live09:35
pooliethe data is a bit more representative09:35
mgzthat's good, had wondered why it didn't seem to do that.09:37
denimgz: i'm still investigating what's actually going on09:42
mgzdeni: do report when you find out.09:44
vilapfew, finally, sanity restored in mail inboxes10:03
denimgz: fixed the issue...it was an error on out part...seems unrelated to that bug10:43
mgzdeni: cool. I'm still curious about the details :)10:44
mgzargh, transports are a mess.10:58
vilamgz: as far as path encodings are concerned you mean ?11:01
mgzthe url handling is all over the place.11:02
mgzthey all do their own things with string parsing, and randomly add and remove trailing forward slashes11:02
vilayeah :)11:03
vilasome tests may also enforce some bugs here11:03
mgzmust resist the urge to rewrite, and just fix the current bug first11:03
vilawell, bugs, practices at least11:03
mgzcertainly bugs too.11:04
mgzokay, done PathFilteringTransport, LocalTransport, ConnectedTransport... next failure is MemoryTransport11:11
vilawhat's your current bug ?11:11
mgzbug 842233 / landing jelmer's rmbranch-colo mp11:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 842233 in Bazaar "InvalidURL from tests for local_path_from_url on windows" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84223311:12
mgzbasically the logic is bogus but happens to mostly work11:13
vilayeah, there is a pattern there: one feature implemented in many different places, mostly tested instead of one feature implemented in a single place, fully tested11:14
mgzit's really just existing debt from all the different quirks to url handling11:15
mgzin some ways it's better to land a change that needs it cleaned up and break things, so it's clearer what the requirements for the refactoring are11:16
vilasame thing :) The debt grows because it's in many different places and the short term gains reinforce the pattern11:17
denimgz: what can i tell...user error! :) naturally i jumped to conclusions and blamed bzr instead of my collegue :)11:29
viladeni: no worries, but understanding what happened and why bzr presented a confusing output is what we're trying to understand ;)11:30
vilabah, mgz syndrom... understanding at both start and end of the sentence...11:30
mgz:D11:30
vilaslangasek: ping, I like to make sure I understand when do-po-merges is used, do you have a few minutes for me ?11:32
denivila: he chmoded the whole directory manually, and that is fine, i mean it's fine that bzr tracks that/11:32
denii was thinking that it had something to do with the windows clients when bzr showed him that he has over 2000 filed modified :)11:33
viladeni: ha ok, great, that all I wanted to know11:33
deni:D11:33
denisorry for the hastle11:33
denistill i would be interested to know is there a feature planned that would disable file permission changes?11:34
deni*disable the tracking of11:34
vilanot that I know of11:36
vilafrom a high level, bzr tracks only the executable bit because it's the only that really makes sense from a VCS point of view11:37
vilaand has a meaning on all platforms11:37
vilathe other bits are the job of install scripts generally not the VCS11:37
denii have a lot of .bat and .sh files.....windows doesnt care about +x on bat files11:38
deniafaik11:38
denibut yeah, i get your point11:38
mgzokay, lame fix now done.11:42
mgzI just need to go out briefly, will propose when I return.11:42
vilaRiddell: ping12:08
vilaRiddell: does 'po4a' rings a bell ? What's the relationship with a 'doc/po4a' dir and the 'po' dir in the same package ?12:10
Riddellvila: nope, don't think I've herad of it12:27
Riddellheard12:27
vilak, thanks12:28
Riddellseems like po4a has tools for converting other file formats into po12:28
deniah....the latest xkcd....so true14:52
deni:)14:52
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DarxusLaunchpad just emailed me that a build failed with "bzr: ERROR: no such option: --allow-fallback-to-native" - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/85424088/buildlog.txt.gz21:37
Leon_NardellaIs it appropriate to discuess bzr-builder issues here?22:18
PsyberSis there a way to 'undo' a bzr unshelve? aka move the state back to how it was before that command?22:34
PsyberSi apparently had a modified file, unshelved, it failed to merge *some* parts into that file but merged others and now im quite lost as to what was what22:35
wgzLeon_Nardella: yes22:43
wgzPsyberS: unfortunately not22:43
wgzmerges with conflicts should make a .OTHER file, not sure if unshelve also does22:44
PsyberSwgz: it doesnt, that i can see but it did leave the old shelf backup file .~1~ there, so at least i can see what the shelved version looked like (and the current) and figure it out manually22:45
Leon_Nardellawgz, I have a recipe in Launchpad that won't build. In the build log there's an error message saying that {git-commit-id}, which I'd like to use in the deb-version, couldn't be expanded. Any ideas?22:45
wgzah, I see you filed bug 89235822:49
ubot5Launchpad bug 892358 in bzr-builder "Bzr-builder doesn't expand {git-commit}" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89235822:49
wgzbug 891880 also seems relevent22:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 891880 in Bazaar "mentions new substitution variables even when recipe format doesn't support them" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89188022:50
* Leon_Nardella taking a look at 89188022:51
Leon_NardellaYup, seems relevant.22:51
Leon_NardellaI tried changing the format to 0.4, but Lauchpad didn't accept it.22:51
wgzalso this thread on the udd list:22:52
wgz<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-distributed-devel/2011-November/000981.html>22:52
wgzparticularly <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-distributed-devel/2011-November/000995.html>22:52
wgzso, I think the state from this morning, was poolie said the new builders are nearly but not quite deployed now22:52
wgzand I guess your error stems from that22:53
Leon_NardellaHmm.. Guess I should just relax and wait a bit?22:53
wgzso... with luck it'll work on monday :D22:53
Leon_NardellaCool. :)22:53
wgzright, dinner for me.22:53
Leon_NardellaSee ya22:53

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