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ashamscdbs, Hi Bilal, may I PM you?14:24
cdbsashams: yeah, go ahead14:25
wagafoBug 883677 has a step by step description that I'm able to reproduce perfectly, I think it can be marked as triaged.15:28
ubot4Launchpad bug 883677 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Changing the default alert sound breaks desktop sound theme (affects: 5) (heat: 43)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88367715:28
om26erwagafo, it may need sending to the people writing gnome-settings-daemon on bugzilla15:30
wagafoOk, I'll try to take a look there and open a bug if there isn't any.15:30
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Amozbdmurray, thanks for the correction on #892324, is this the generally preferred way? assigning a package before apport-collect ?21:15
bdmurrayAmoz: yes, lots of package have apport hook, you can see them in /usr/share/apport/package-hooks21:16
bdmurrayAmoz: these gather detailed information necessary for the specific package21:16
bdmurraythe network-manager one should gather lots of kernel information too so if it ends up being a kernel bug it'll be okay21:17
Amozbdmurray, if there are no hooks, then it doesn't matter in the apport case? (it's always better to have a package assign ofc)21:17
bdmurrayrunning apport-collect for a bug without a package will gather some very basic information about the user's system but instead of having them run it 2 times its best to first assign a package21:18
bdmurraydoes that help?21:18
Amozlet21:19
Amozbdmurray, let's say the bug is related to rtorrent (no hooks), then it would be fine to just collect without an assigned package?21:20
Amozor is it collecting more info if a package is assigned, even if no hook exists for that package?21:21
bdmurrayah, yes it gathers information about dependencies etc21:21
bdmurrayactually just dependencies21:22
Amozthat answers my question. Assigning a package is important then21:22
bdmurraywell modified conffiles too21:22
bdmurrayvery important!21:22
bdmurrayAmoz: Do you have any other questions?21:24
Amozbdmurray, I'm new to this stuff, and every bug is different. I'm thinking about asking the report of #892048 to give some more info about the bug (action, what happened, expectations).21:28
Amozwould that be a good idea?21:28
bdmurraybug 89204821:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 892048 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "hard disk health problem (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89204821:29
Amozand set it to incomplete21:30
bil21albdmurry i have a question u are the the admin so u may give well answer21:31
bdmurrayYes that would be a good idea, however in this specific case I'm guessing the reporter was running gnome-disk-utility and saw that their hard disk has an issue and doesn't know what to do21:31
bdmurrayor thinks its a bug although their hardware being broken or failing isn't something we can do about21:32
bdmurraywe can do anything about21:32
Amozbdmurray, sounds reasonable, but one should really make sure that's the case, no?21:32
Amozor just set it to invalid directly?21:32
bdmurrayAmoz: yes, but to reduce the number of back and forths necessary I say "It sounds like ... and this isn't something we can do anything about.  Take these steps to back up your system.... and if you think there is a bug in the software please indicate what it is." set to incomplete and subscribe21:33
Amozbdmurray, thanks!21:34
bdmurraybil21al: what is your question?21:35
bil21ali m a unity triager mostly i triage unity but some told me that u cant apply for the bug control if u are not a subcriber of upstream bugs like empathy etc ..i dont get him why is he saying this21:36
bil21alcan u tel me why i cannot apply for the bug control while i m a unity triager21:37
bil21al?21:37
bdmurrayIf you work on bug reports about Ubuntu packages you can apply for Bug Control21:38
bdmurrayThere is no need to subscribe to upstream bugs although we'd like it if you did21:38
bil21alok and here is another matter my karma is not shown in unity contributor while who have less than me are shown there21:40
bdmurrayKarma is a feature of Launchpad so launchpad would be the best people to talk to21:41
bil21alok thanks very much21:41
greg-gthey're in #launchpad, just fyi21:41
Amozbdmurray, if a system restarts when playing video in VLC, Mplayer etc. would this be a linux problem or hw? what would be appropriate steps for triaging?23:09
Amozbug 89202623:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 892026 in ubuntu "ubuntu 11.10 restarts while playing video (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89202623:09
bdmurrayAmoz: that sounds kind of crazy but if it only happens when manipulating the video I'd guess an X related issue23:16

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