| wendar | the 4digits game developer says he'd love to work with community designers on improving his game | 02:27 |
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| doctormon | Anyone seen this before: http://getskeleton.com/ | 03:10 |
| doctormon | wendar: That's great. | 03:10 |
| YoBoY | hi | 07:17 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
| mainerror | Morning dholbach. | 09:05 |
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| AlanBell | afternoon all | 14:39 |
| AlanBell | any more items for the design tools wishlist? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam/Wishlist | 14:41 |
| yaili | AlanBell: have you seen xScope for Mac? | 15:24 |
| yaili | AlanBell: http://iconfactory.com/software/xscope | 15:25 |
| mainerror | yaili: That tool might be good but the site is horrible. | 15:31 |
| yaili | mainerror: I don't think that's what we're discussing here | 15:32 |
| mainerror | I know. Just wanted to say. It took me ages to understand what the tool is about. | 15:34 |
| johnoxton | AlanBell I am not sure if it really falls under design but there are some UX tools we'd love | 15:36 |
| johnoxton | AlanBell the key one being something like http://www.optimalworkshop.com/optimalsort.htm | 15:37 |
| johnoxton | and http://www.optimalworkshop.com/treejack.htm | 15:38 |
| om26er | JohnLea, Hi! about bug 804021 was there any specific reason for the current behavior. I noted MeeGo(netbook) had a similar behavior i.e. delay to display the tooltip but then in an update they changed the behavior to real time tooltips. I personally preferred the old behavior | 15:38 |
| mainerror | johnoxton: Those are great! | 15:39 |
| om26er | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/804021 | 15:40 |
| om26er | this channel needs a bugbot | 15:40 |
| JohnLea | om26er; yes, if there is no delay the tooltip flashes up all the time in a very annoying manner | 15:41 |
| johnoxton | mainerror: yeah, I love them. Just the pricing model I hate :) | 15:41 |
| AlanBell | yaili: I think there are compiz plugins for most of what xscope does | 15:41 |
| JohnLea | om26er; if it was as the bug is requesting, we would have another bug with even more people complaining and asking for a delay to be added ;-) | 15:41 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: can you get us a bug bot for this channel? | 15:42 |
| om26er | JohnLea, fair enough we might want to experiment with a lower tooltip reveal time though, might feel better ;-) | 15:42 |
| yaili | AlanBell: ok | 15:45 |
| om26er | nuthinking, You designed the accordion in Unity launcher, was there any specific reason for accordion to only take place on the bottom and not at the top as in Ubuntu 10.10 ? | 15:45 |
| AlanBell | the optimal workshop stuff looks interesting | 15:46 |
| om26er | this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/772792 argues against the current behavior and as now I read on a report unpinned apps will also remember their position in the launcher wont the only argument for removing accordion on the top fail? | 15:46 |
| AlanBell | yaili: there is the enhanced zoom plugin, the resize info plugin | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | window rules doesn't do what I thought it did :) it doesn't make rulers on screen | 15:51 |
| AlanBell | there is also the very good colour filter plugin that allows you to test designs for colour blindness profiles | 15:52 |
| AlanBell | deuteranopia and protanopia filters are the two main colour blindess filter options | 15:52 |
| mainerror | johnoxton: I agree their pricing model sucks. | 15:59 |
| yaili | AlanBell: Color Oracle works on Linux too, no? | 16:00 |
| cjohnston | bug 804021 | 16:01 |
| webbugs | Launchpad bug 804021 in unity (Ubuntu) "launcher tooltip delay is useless and gives the impression as if the launcher is not responding" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804021 | 16:01 |
| mhall119 | \o/ | 16:01 |
| cjohnston | works for now | 16:01 |
| AlanBell | yaili: I don't know what that is. Oracle is a database to me! | 16:02 |
| yaili | AlanBell: :D http://colororacle.cartography.ch/ | 16:03 |
| AlanBell | oh right, same thing as the compiz filters | 16:03 |
| mainerror | Does anyone see a license notice or something for Color Oracle? | 16:05 |
| AlanBell | mainerror: more important than the pricing model is the ability to adapt it | 16:06 |
| AlanBell | free, but non-Free from what I can tell | 16:07 |
| AlanBell | and it has a university copyright which usually means the authors will abandon it at the end of the academic year | 16:09 |
| AlanBell | johnoxton: I can see some of that cardsort stuff working well as desktop applications | 16:13 |
| johnoxton | AlanBell agreed a desktop top app would be lovely too one of the things I am interested in is being able to do it remotley. | 16:14 |
| AlanBell | ooh, that might tie in with doctormo's thoughts on an etherpad/svgedit mashup | 16:16 |
| AlanBell | I guess you sometimes want to do the remote stuff with the last remaining people not using Ubuntu yet too | 16:18 |
| johnoxton | :) | 16:19 |
| johnoxton | Something of a distraction but I'd like to design card sorting as a game… but I'll pocket that thought for another day | 16:19 |
| AlanBell | yes, I was thinking of using the solitaire framework or pygame cards to do that | 16:20 |
| johnoxton | AlanBell: Well, I'd certainly be up for that conversation if people are interested in doing it | 16:22 |
| AlanBell | I added a card sorting tool https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam/Wishlist | 16:24 |
| mfilipe | is there any approach to implement window tiling in unity? I know that it has put compiz plugin that "emulate" tiling but it isn't good if compare with a real window tiling | 18:19 |
| bkerensa | Does anyone by chance have copies of the Ubuntu banner layouts that is used for printing the banners given to approved LoCo's? | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | I suggested bkerensa join here and ask | 18:33 |
| mainerror | bkerensa: If at all I guess over at http://spreadubuntu.org/ | 18:58 |
| mainerror | Well maybe not there but it should be there. | 18:58 |
| pleia2 | the one here is the one he's looking for: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca/6087644982/ | 18:59 |
| bkerensa | yeah its not there... I think Canonical has the design | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | the big orange one canonical sends to approved teams | 19:00 |
| mainerror | Oh! | 19:04 |
| wendar | bkerensa: I'll ask sladen, he'll at least know or be able to find out who to ask | 19:05 |
| bkerensa | kk | 19:05 |
| wendar | bkerensa: it's Friday evening in the UK, though, so things'll be shutting down | 19:06 |
| wendar | bkerensa: do you need it before Monday? | 19:06 |
| bkerensa | no monday will work :D | 19:06 |
| wendar | bkerensa: cool | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | sladen usually has me submit a bug report for such things, lemme get a link... | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+filebug?field.title=Publish+Ubuntu+Banner+SVG | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | that will make him happy :) | 19:12 |
| wendar | pleia2: good idea :) | 19:19 |
| * AlanBell wonders if they got the logo the right way up on the vertical banners at uds-p | 19:20 | |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326040791/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326784728/ | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | actually this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6326785476/in/photostream/ | 19:22 |
| AlanBell | they did some with the logo rotated along with the text, which it shouldn't do | 19:22 |
| AlanBell | logo should always have a gap at 3 O'Clock | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | ah, interesting | 19:22 |
| mainerror | AlanBell: I think it is correct the way it is. People tend to walk with their head in a comfortable position which is the normal head position. So the logo had to be recognizable from that angle. | 19:31 |
| mainerror | You don't turn your head 90 degrees on the X axis just to recognize the logo. :D | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | mainerror: indeed, just I happen to know they did make some vertical banners that were wrong | 19:42 |
| AlanBell | there is a page about it in the branding guide | 19:43 |
| mmiicc | according “More on-screen measurements” from Wishlist: there is KRuler in Ubuntu repos, also couple Opera widgets: http://widgets.opera.com/search/?order=name&q=ruler | 20:53 |
| AlanBell | !info kruler | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | < lubotu3`> kruler (source: kdegraphics): screen ruler for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.5-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 103 kB, installed size 412 kB | 21:38 |
| AlanBell | http://kde.org/applications/graphics/kruler/ | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | looks quite nice, but is KDE | 21:41 |
| mmiicc | AlanBell: Gnome Screen Ruler is not in 11.10 repos https://launchpad.net/screenruler | 21:46 |
| AlanBell | interesting | 21:51 |
| AlanBell | that would be a good thing to get in for precise | 21:51 |
| doctormon | AlanBell: Sounds easy | 21:58 |
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