=== eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay [00:55] robert_ancell: hey! [00:55] desrt, howdy! [00:55] you're a hard man to get a hold of from europe :) [00:56] i just landed a bunch of changes on glib to deal with opening up the gsettingsschema API some more [00:56] the eventual goal is that dconf-editor need not parse xml [00:56] would be cool if i could get some info about what you need, precisely [00:56] desrt, it was always planned that way :) [00:57] the GSettingsSchemaKey structure is planned to be opened up [00:57] with various getters [00:57] i wish-list in the form of a bug would be great [00:58] no sense opening what is not needed [00:58] desrt, ok, I'll open on against glib? [00:58] for the summary/description stuff i'm considering creating a separate cache file for those [00:58] that is opened only if you request [00:58] yup === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk [02:38] Ugh. Network-manager and policykit are not playing nice with each other. Just tried to join my wireless network in precise, was asked for my psasword, but authentication failed for some reason. [02:38] password even [03:10] slangasek, does linux-pam have a mailing list / homepage? === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay [03:58] TheMuso: yes, noticed that too [03:59] I will look into it tomorrow and try to figure out how it can be fixed, but since NM didn't change I expect something's off in polkit [04:00] and on that note, /me goes back to bed [04:16] cyphermox: thought you knew already, thanks. [05:03] Good morning [05:04] robert_ancell, TheMuso: uh, what? changing seeds in a stable release? what do you want to do? [05:04] pitti, I just noticed that ubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on unity-greeter which is a big screw up... [05:04] lightdm does, though? [05:05] pitti, no [05:05] Recommends: xserver-xorg, unity-greeter | lightdm-greeter [05:05] (because it doesn't require a greeter) [05:05] that's what's pulling it into the default install [05:05] but right, it leaves open the possibility to uninstall it; I thought that was on purpose [05:05] pitti, right, but some people are upgrading and not pulling in unity-greeter as it is only a recommend [05:06] pitti, are there people who want the ubuntu-desktop package installed but not unity-greeter? [05:06] presumably not [05:06] hey robert_ancell and RAOF , I moved kickoff meeting to Monday morning b/c thumper couldn't make today. [05:06] jasoncwarner_, ok, np [05:07] pitti, would it be hard to SRU a change like that? [05:07] No problem. [05:07] robert_ancell and RAOF were you able to dive in yet and see what you could do? RAOF were you able to connect with njpatel? [05:07] robert_ancell: so, for robustifying upgrades this could be done in theory, we just never changed a seed post-release so far [05:07] robert_ancell: technically not [05:07] as TheMuso says, you update the precise and oneiric seeds, regenerate ubuntu-meta, and upload as usual [05:08] jasoncwarner_: I haven't caught njpatel online yet; I have caught thumper and decided that https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-distro-priority/+bug/807921 seems like a bug that could usefully be tested. [05:08] Launchpad bug 807921 in unity "Unity tooltips doesn't show Hebrew characters" [Undecided,Confirmed] [05:08] pitti, right. So I know how to update the seeds, but can I generate ubuntu-meta? [05:08] pitti, bug 804171 [05:08] Launchpad bug 804171 in ubuntu-meta "ubuntu-desktop package depends on lightdm but no greeter" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804171 [05:09] robert_ancell: sure, apt-get source ubuntu-meta, ./update [05:09] robert_ancell: added o/p tasks [05:11] pitti, what's the name of the seed branches again? [05:13] pitti, found it [05:15] Anybody can generate ubuntu-meta, but then upload privileges apply of course. [05:15] pitti: Oh one questino for you before I sign off for the weekend. Do you knwo if we are going to be adjusting GTK3 packaging for multi-arch? [05:16] gah [05:19] TheMuso: I'm not sure, it's no small task due to all the plugins [05:20] nobody is working on it right now AFAIK [05:20] * TheMuso nods. [05:20] do we need it for anything particular? [05:21] No, but I wanted to know if it was on the agenda, because I enabled at-spi2-atk for multi-arch, forgetting that gtk3 was not multi-arched yet, untill I installed precise the other day, and had to use a symlink to hae the atk bridge module seen by GTK3. [05:21] So if its not on the agenda, I'll rever the multi-arch changes I made. [05:21] revert [05:22] seems a little suckful to multiarch gtk2 and then regress that for gtk3 [05:24] oh right, gtk2 is [05:24] so it shouldn't be that hard to apply that to 3, too [05:31] pitti, ok, so I ran ./update, then debuild -S -sa. Do I just dput it? [05:31] robert_ancell: you need to adjust teh changelog a bit [05:31] robert_ancell: for -proposed, and adding the bug number [05:32] robert_ancell: but yes, just dput; it's nothing really magical, just an ordinary source package which just happens to have a few autogenerated files [05:32] pitti, but for uploading to -proposed I need to modify the old 1.245 right [05:32] uh, no? [05:32] should be 1.245.1 or so [05:33] 1.245 is in oneiric final [05:33] pitti, yeah, I'm running precise so I've pulled down all the recent changes. I'll upload that one to precise, then I need to get the older version [05:35] ah, I misunderstood [05:35] robert_ancell: yes; pull-lp-source ubuntu-meta oneiric === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk [08:47] morning [08:47] hey rodrigo_, how are you? [08:48] hi pitti, I'm fine and you? [08:49] rodrigo_: I'm great, thanks; had a fine hacking afternoon yesterday, continuing today [08:49] client-side apport duplicate checking making great progress [08:50] cool :) [08:57] morning mvo [08:57] mvo, do you have got some minutes to discuss the mp? [08:58] glatzor_: sure [08:59] glatzor_: happy that you have a bit of time to look at it! [09:01] hey glatzor_ [09:02] glatzor_, how's the PK API in aptdaemon going? [09:04] rodrigo_, fine. it is working. I updated my system today using gpk-update-viewer [09:04] cool [09:04] rodrigo_, gpk-update-viewer still doesn't support markup correctly. so the changelogs lock a little bit odd [09:04] I'll be adding a new method as soon as I'm done with its implementation in PK [09:05] rodrigo_, which method do you want to add? [09:05] rodrigo_, a new WhatProvides type? [09:05] InstallResource, to install languages (for now) [09:06] glatzor_: is this in trunk already, i.e. should I upload a new aptdaemon :) ? [09:10] good morning everyone [09:10] hi chrisccoulson [09:10] hi rodrigo_, how are you? [09:13] chrisccoulson, I'm fine, and you? [09:14] rodrigo_, yeah, good thanks [09:16] oh, no seb yet? [09:16] hey chrisccoulson, good morning [09:16] chrisccoulson: how's your ubuflu? [09:16] chrisccoulson: Seb is on holiday today [09:17] hi pitti. yeah, it's better this morning. i just wish i could shake this thing off my chest now :) [09:18] chrisccoulson: is there still something missing for your two drafted specs? they have WIs, but are still in "drafting" [09:18] chrisccoulson: (cf. my reminder mail from this morning) [09:19] pitti - no, i don't think there's anything missing [09:22] chrisccoulson: so, perhaps you can check again and flip them to "review" when you are done? [09:23] pitti - ok, done :) [09:24] chrisccoulson: "Make it possible to store collected adresses in EDS"/"Add functionality for creating addressbooks via EDS" -> will you actually work on that, or is that mconnor? [09:24] pitti, m_conley. it could be either of us though :) [09:25] chrisccoulson: also, "Add overlay scrollbar support for Thunderbird (and Firefox):" -> I thought this was pretty much impossible, given that it's not real GTK widgets and we can't modify the sources so much? [09:26] pitti - right, it's going to be hard, but not impossible, and we need to do it at some point [09:26] this is why i've been careful not to give myself too many WI's this cycle :) [09:26] ok, if you actually want to work on this, it certainly sounds like a fun project [09:27] heh [09:27] I mean, working on code, not just packaging all the time [09:27] yeah, it's nice to do stuff other than packaging occasionally :) [09:27] so, both approved, thanks! [09:27] one to go, the default apps one [09:27] thanks [09:27] jasoncwarner_ said this would land on Monday [09:28] and didrocks needs to approve one spec, but I figure he's on vac today, too [09:29] i need to start taking some friday's off. i've got 10 days left [09:30] hmmm, i think i've figured out my "suspend on resume" issue now [09:31] i'm not sure it's the same problem as other people, as my issue is clearly caused by this empty battery exposed by the kernel [10:39] I need to stop for today, travelling to Dresden [10:40] have a nice weekend everyone! [10:41] pitti: cheerio [10:49] have a nice trip pitti [10:50] * desrt ponders turning gtkmenuitem on its head [10:50] ...or at least its side [10:53] hey desrt [10:54] need to run some errands, bbiab [11:04] rodrigo_, bzr branch lp:~aptdaemon-developers/aptdaemon/pkcompat2 and run sudo ./aptd -td -replace [11:04] enjoy yourself pitti [11:43] glatzor_, ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:07] * rodrigo_ lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:25] Hi [14:26] yra lt ce? [14:26] !yra lt? [14:26] Factoid 'yra lt?' not found [14:26] + [14:27] AR YRA SICE LIETUVIU? [14:27] + [14:27] ! hi [14:27] Factoid 'hi' not found [14:27] ! lamex [14:27] Factoid 'lamex' not found [14:27] !lamalex [14:27] Factoid 'lamalex' not found === chris|| is now known as chris| [15:17] anyone knowing how the per-diems for uds work, please pm me [15:19] Sweetshark: 27 and 16 [15:20] * desrt skips the pm to save you from getting messages about it for the next 20 minutes [15:22] * kenvandine is really surprised that we have only had one bug filed against the clutter-gst package... like ever [15:33] desrt: thanks for the info ;) [16:50] mterry: ah, diving into stable +1 team? (just saw your transition uploads) [16:51] pitti, yeah, I've been doing it for a while. Mostly ftbfs and nbs stuff. Happy as a clam :) [16:52] mterry: feels good to keep a tidy house^Warchive, doesn't it? :-) [16:54] Yeah, driving numbers down to zero is always satisfying [17:11] bye everyone, have a nice weekend! [17:15] you too pitti! === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk [18:03] ok, out for the day, have a nice weekend! === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay === ChrisGagnon is now known as ChrisGagnon_ === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay