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andrejzhello kelemengabor07:42
andrejzi have a question for you ;)07:42
andrejzi checked the 12.04 translations series07:43
kelemengaborgood morning andrejz07:43
andrejzfor example for slovenian you can see it here - https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/sl07:43
kelemengaborgot it07:43
andrejzi noticed many templates are untranslated07:43
andrejzeven though they are translated in 11.10 . It's similar for many languages07:43
kelemengaborI guess they are being imported or something07:44
andrejzprobably something is wrong with translations sharing07:44
andrejzoh, or that07:44
kelemengaborI checked this page one or two days ago for hu07:44
kelemengabornothing was translated there back then07:44
kelemengabornow it looks similar to yours07:45
kelemengaborI don't think there is a reason to worry :)07:45
andrejzok07:45
andrejzi just checked it today07:46
kelemengaborhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+imports?field.filter_status=APPROVED&field.filter_extension=pot07:46
kelemengaboryup, import in progress07:46
andrejzok cool07:47
andrejzalso it would be great if we could set the priorities correct beofre we open translations07:49
andrejzso any help is much appriciated07:51
andrejzhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=107:51
andrejzi started looking at it just now07:51
andrejzkelemengabor how can i see which packages are in the default install? i used a manifest file07:52
andrejzbut i only source packages are listed07:52
kelemengaborandrejz: well, on the https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+templates page, the source packages are listed too07:54
kelemengaborso you can start from there, I guess07:54
andrejzsure but often i source package has several templates07:55
andrejzso if i know which source packages are in the default install I cannot know directly which templates are used in the default install07:56
kelemengaborhm, isn't always all of them?07:56
andrejzI am not sure07:56
andrejzif that's true then this will be much easier07:57
kelemengaborwell, if there is only one template for the given source package, it is surely true08:00
andrejzsure but kdepim or okular have lots of templates08:00
kelemengaborI have no idea for that case :(08:02
andrejzThese template priorities are dragging for a long time now08:08
andrejzif anyone is willing to help08:32
andrejzi am done with 60, 140 remaining - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=108:32
andrejzdoes anyone know if decision to remove tomboy from default is final?08:44
andrejzkelemengabor, do you happen to kow how visible are policiykit strings?09:09
kelemengaborandrejz: you mean those from the policykit package?09:34
andrejzyes09:35
andrejzdo they appear in confiramtion dialogs where you need to type in sudo password?09:35
kelemengaborwell, not too much, but sometimes they do. for example, when you run into an authentication dialog, which does not specify its .policy file with specific strings, you get these, like defaults09:38
kelemengaborone such example is mounting the virtualbox guest addons iso, and running the autorun script on it09:38
andrejzok, so it should be ranked quite high09:38
kelemengaboryes09:39
kelemengaborhigher than KDE, but not much09:40
kelemengaboroh, while we are at it, mountall should be treated the same09:41
kelemengaborcurrently, its priority is pretty low, but when your system cannot mount a drive or has to check one of the hard drives at boot, you see its strings09:42
kelemengaboralso command-not-found is ranked lower than it should09:43
kelemengaborsorry, things are coming into my mind :)09:43
andrejzok i will fix that09:44
andrejznow i am halfway done but don't know what to do about 1 source package a lot of templates case - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=109:44
andrejzi have put command not found between KDE and docs09:46
andrejzis dpm around these days ?09:47
andrejzi don't know whether i should wait for him or send him an email09:49
kelemengaborbetter send a mail :)09:52
sagaciandrejz: how do you decide priority?10:12
andrejzdepending on expected visibility for the user10:13
andrejzwe use this as a guideline10:13
andrejzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority10:13
sagaciare you just manually adding them to the spreadsheet or some kind of automatic inputting10:16
andrejzI went to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+templates10:18
andrejzarranged by priority10:18
andrejzand copied all templates with priority 0 into google docs10:18
sagaciah ok10:19
andrejzyou can also edit template priorities directly from LP but it takes longer10:19
andrejzso now we plan to finish editing all values10:19
andrejzand then export to .csv10:20
andrejzthen you can run a script which sets all priorities according to .csv file10:20
andrejzSo what needs to be determined for these templates is if they are in default install or not10:21
andrejzif they are they fit into GUI, default, KDE 5000 - 5499, otherwise GUI, non-default, other 2500 - 299910:21
sagacialso, where was that spec or wiki page for the universe templates proposed for translation?10:22
andrejzHere are some suggestions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Universe_Translations_in_LP10:28
andrejzI just mailed dpm about what the next step should be10:28
andrejzi just added some more background info on that page if you are interested sagaci10:42

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