[07:42] <andrejz> hello kelemengabor
[07:42] <andrejz> i have a question for you ;)
[07:43] <andrejz> i checked the 12.04 translations series
[07:43] <kelemengabor> good morning andrejz
[07:43] <andrejz> for example for slovenian you can see it here - https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/sl
[07:43] <kelemengabor> got it
[07:43] <andrejz> i noticed many templates are untranslated
[07:43] <andrejz> even though they are translated in 11.10 . It's similar for many languages
[07:44] <kelemengabor> I guess they are being imported or something
[07:44] <andrejz> probably something is wrong with translations sharing
[07:44] <andrejz> oh, or that
[07:44] <kelemengabor> I checked this page one or two days ago for hu
[07:44] <kelemengabor> nothing was translated there back then
[07:45] <kelemengabor> now it looks similar to yours
[07:45] <kelemengabor> I don't think there is a reason to worry :)
[07:45] <andrejz> ok
[07:46] <andrejz> i just checked it today
[07:46] <kelemengabor> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+imports?field.filter_status=APPROVED&field.filter_extension=pot
[07:46] <kelemengabor> yup, import in progress
[07:47] <andrejz> ok cool
[07:49] <andrejz> also it would be great if we could set the priorities correct beofre we open translations
[07:51] <andrejz> so any help is much appriciated
[07:51] <andrejz> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=1
[07:51] <andrejz> i started looking at it just now
[07:52] <andrejz> kelemengabor how can i see which packages are in the default install? i used a manifest file
[07:52] <andrejz> but i only source packages are listed
[07:54] <kelemengabor> andrejz: well, on the https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+templates page, the source packages are listed too
[07:54] <kelemengabor> so you can start from there, I guess
[07:55] <andrejz> sure but often i source package has several templates
[07:56] <andrejz> so if i know which source packages are in the default install I cannot know directly which templates are used in the default install
[07:56] <kelemengabor> hm, isn't always all of them?
[07:56] <andrejz> I am not sure
[07:57] <andrejz> if that's true then this will be much easier
[08:00] <kelemengabor> well, if there is only one template for the given source package, it is surely true
[08:00] <andrejz> sure but kdepim or okular have lots of templates
[08:02] <kelemengabor> I have no idea for that case :(
[08:08] <andrejz> These template priorities are dragging for a long time now
[08:32] <andrejz> if anyone is willing to help
[08:32] <andrejz> i am done with 60, 140 remaining - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=1
[08:44] <andrejz> does anyone know if decision to remove tomboy from default is final?
[09:09] <andrejz> kelemengabor, do you happen to kow how visible are policiykit strings?
[09:34] <kelemengabor> andrejz: you mean those from the policykit package?
[09:35] <andrejz> yes
[09:35] <andrejz> do they appear in confiramtion dialogs where you need to type in sudo password?
[09:38] <kelemengabor> well, not too much, but sometimes they do. for example, when you run into an authentication dialog, which does not specify its .policy file with specific strings, you get these, like defaults
[09:38] <kelemengabor> one such example is mounting the virtualbox guest addons iso, and running the autorun script on it
[09:38] <andrejz> ok, so it should be ranked quite high
[09:39] <kelemengabor> yes
[09:40] <kelemengabor> higher than KDE, but not much
[09:41] <kelemengabor> oh, while we are at it, mountall should be treated the same
[09:42] <kelemengabor> currently, its priority is pretty low, but when your system cannot mount a drive or has to check one of the hard drives at boot, you see its strings
[09:43] <kelemengabor> also command-not-found is ranked lower than it should
[09:43] <kelemengabor> sorry, things are coming into my mind :)
[09:44] <andrejz> ok i will fix that
[09:44] <andrejz> now i am halfway done but don't know what to do about 1 source package a lot of templates case - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdFV6eDV1U29Ea3JpUUQ2SkNKTUNYZHc&hl=en_US#gid=1
[09:46] <andrejz> i have put command not found between KDE and docs
[09:47] <andrejz> is dpm around these days ?
[09:49] <andrejz> i don't know whether i should wait for him or send him an email
[09:52] <kelemengabor> better send a mail :)
[10:12] <sagaci> andrejz: how do you decide priority?
[10:13] <andrejz> depending on expected visibility for the user
[10:13] <andrejz> we use this as a guideline
[10:13] <andrejz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority
[10:16] <sagaci> are you just manually adding them to the spreadsheet or some kind of automatic inputting
[10:18] <andrejz> I went to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+templates
[10:18] <andrejz> arranged by priority
[10:18] <andrejz> and copied all templates with priority 0 into google docs
[10:19] <sagaci> ah ok
[10:19] <andrejz> you can also edit template priorities directly from LP but it takes longer
[10:19] <andrejz> so now we plan to finish editing all values
[10:20] <andrejz> and then export to .csv
[10:20] <andrejz> then you can run a script which sets all priorities according to .csv file
[10:21] <andrejz> So what needs to be determined for these templates is if they are in default install or not
[10:21] <andrejz> if they are they fit into GUI, default, KDE 5000 - 5499, otherwise GUI, non-default, other 2500 - 2999
[10:22] <sagaci> also, where was that spec or wiki page for the universe templates proposed for translation?
[10:28] <andrejz> Here are some suggestions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Universe_Translations_in_LP
[10:28] <andrejz> I just mailed dpm about what the next step should be
[10:42] <andrejz> i just added some more background info on that page if you are interested sagaci