[00:43] hello [00:43] Whats the way to map function keys to a python or .sh script? [02:55] In Britain, do people generally buy their own modems or are they provided by (rented from?) the ISP? [02:57] usually provided by the ISP, although more technical users will tend to buy their own [02:57] ball: it's shifting more towards provided by the ISP [02:58] Hmm... okay, thanks. [03:03] why do you ask? [03:04] tugrik: I'm writing an article on networking for small businesses and organisations and it's intended for a British audience. [03:04] ...it's years since I lived there and I didn't know what the usual practice is now. [03:20] Here's another example: Ethernet "holes" in the wall... are they sockets or jacks? [03:21] "socket" [03:21] although probably "port" is most common [03:21] but I'm hoping your frame of reference is going to be more than some tired random who should have gone to bed by now ;) [03:23] :-) [03:23] Thanks [07:38] hi greetings everyone [07:39] i have a problem can anyone kindly help me [07:43] aloha [07:59] morning [08:05] AHA! [08:05] indicator applet says I have 5 new mails [08:05] its not updating, if i click a mail in indicator mail applet the number in thunderbird icon in launcher goes down [08:13] good morning [08:14] * czajkowski tickles christel hello darling [08:14] heey beauty! [08:14] how are you? [08:15] ntb, check up at the consultant today with my back. so will see [08:15] christel: hows you and your cute monkey doing ? [08:18] very well! [08:18] ooh good luck! [08:19] the monky is rapidly becoming cheekier by the day :) [08:21] Morning all [08:21] has he learnt more words than No or is that still the fav ? [08:26] BAH! [08:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/742016/ [08:26] morning all [08:28] ali1234: / AlanBell my desktop is still broken [08:28] popey: Still no success with the updates then [08:28] no problems here [08:28] must be that landscape stuff? [08:29] Looks kinda broken [08:30] popey: on the plus side you will free up 648MB of disk space [08:30] hmm, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop again :( [08:31] thats me trying to install flash [08:32] does dpkg -l|grep libldap show matching versions now? [08:32] ii libldap-2.4-2 2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1 OpenLDAP libraries [08:32] rc libldap-2.4-2:i386 2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4 OpenLDAP libraries [08:33] what happens if you try to uninstall those? [08:34] alan@wopr:~$ sudo apt-get update [08:34] E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. [08:34] uhm [08:35] * popey installs apt-transport-https [08:36] aha! [08:36] its updating now [08:36] The following packages will be upgraded: libfreetype6 libfreetype6:i386 libfreetype6-dev python-cupshelpers system-config-printer-common system-config-printer-gnome system-config-printer-udev [08:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/742030/ [08:37] better [08:38] and it looks like it wants to update libldap-2.4-2:i386 [08:39] install rather, the rc means it was removed but may have config files remaining [08:40] after that runs you should have [08:40] ii libldap-2.4-2:i386 2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1 OpenLDAP libraries [08:41] ii libldap-2.4-2 2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1 OpenLDAP libraries [08:41] ii libldap-2.4-2:i386 2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1 OpenLDAP libraries [08:41] \o/ [08:41] \o/ [09:03] TFI!!!!!! :) [09:03] o/ [09:05] \o [09:08] _____ _ _ _ [09:08] | ___| __(_) __| | __ _ _ _| | [09:08] | |_ | '__| |/ _` |/ _` | | | | | [09:08] | _|| | | | (_| | (_| | |_| |_| [09:08] |_| |_| |_|\__,_|\__,_|\__, (_) [09:08] |___/ [09:08] Not just Friday, but CAR day as well [09:09] CAR? [09:10] I'm, due to get my repaired car back this afternoon [09:10] ah [09:10] I haven't used my car for a few days [09:11] czajkowski: atm the favourite word seems to be "more" :s [09:11] more hugs :) [09:11] more tomatoes mainly [09:11] he is mad about tomatoes bless him [09:11] popey: Lucky you, I've been relying on lifts for the last week [09:12] lovely red stained clothes eh :) [09:12] oh yes! [09:13] Water pump failed, with the bearings collapsing, when that went it knocked the timing belt a couple of notches which knocked the valves & wrecked the cylinder head [09:13] he also sneaks off and grabs a pack of cherry tomatos to eat when we walk through waitrose [09:13] Complete engine disembowelment [09:13] ouch [09:13] what car? [09:13] Picasso [09:13] so i get to the checkout and the till person is all "oh this one seems broken, do you want me to get you a new one?" and i have to be all "sorry, no, that's my son the shoplifter" [09:13] ooo, thats got to be a good grand or so? [09:14] £650 [09:14] oh thats not bad [09:14] not great ☺ [09:14] Sort of mates rates :) [09:14] hah [09:15] I've got a mechanic lives over the road, he was going to do it, but was too much for him now he's semi-retired, so got one of his mates to do it [09:16] Still not good this close to Christmas though [09:21] hi all. does anyone know where i can get ubuntu screensavers on the net [09:22] Good morning peeps [09:22] * AlanBell observes a Chris Wollard on the dans le noir list [09:22] * bigcalm tickles christel as he hasn't seen her alive in here for a while [09:22] daubers: if you and bruno confirm I will need to get an extra place [09:24] I'm worried about updating any of my machines due to popey's troubles with libldap. What to do? [09:24] you wont have that problem [09:24] How come? [09:24] AlanBell: ooh how many are we now? [09:24] heya bigcalm :) [09:24] anyone know where i can get ubuntu screensavers from online? [09:24] because I updated via landscape which doesn't support multiarch [09:24] AHA! [09:26] heh, fun. [09:26] morning [09:27] I have a quick question about Maildir... can I simply 'mv' mailboxes inside other to 'nest' them? [09:27] I guess I should sort out my train tickets for the 9th/10th then! [09:27] lo [09:28] is it safe to update libldap on 32-bit? [09:32] gordonjcp: Sounds like it, from what popey said earlier, it an issue with using landscape to update because it doesn't multi-arch [09:32] yes [09:32] you almost certainly wont hit the issue I did [09:34] just don't use ldap [09:34] BigRedS: I didn't think I used ldap, but it appears to be installed on every machine I have [09:35] Well, the lib anyway [09:37] A return will cost me 207 quid. 2 singles about 73 quid [09:38] That's the cost of using the train on 2 different days [09:39] bigcalm: where you off to? [09:39] Good morning all! youtu.be/mGgMZpGYiy8 [09:39] dogmatic69: the xmas meal [09:40] seems very pricey for the train [09:40] bham to london is £5 [09:41] bigcalm: cheaper to drive innit? [09:43] * BigRedS just claimed expenses for £55.26 worth of coffee [09:44] morning [09:44] BigRedS: nice [09:46] I really miss alt-f2 [09:47] I think that's the thing that does my head in most about unity [09:47] it sort-of works in unity [09:47] BigRedS: well yeah [09:48] just different [09:48] you press alt-f2 and it pops up a text entry [09:48] but it doesn't do anything [09:48] that's all it ever did [09:48] you can type whatever you like in there, it won't actually start any programs [09:48] oh, yeah [09:48] works for me [09:49] AlanBell: it works maybe once in ten goes for me [09:49] if I type really slowly [09:49] bug 788350 ? [09:49] Launchpad bug 788350 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "alt+f2 implies it can run utter nonsense" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788350 [09:49] and give it two or three minutes before I hit return [09:49] not reproduced [09:50] ooh. maybe it's fixed. I stopped checking a little while ago [09:50] heh. maybe even before release [09:50] popey: I shall investigate [09:51] From google maps: Est. fuel cost: 33.24 quid [09:51] Car it is then [09:52] (one way) [10:18] good morning everyone, [10:18] Ahoy [10:18] morning bigcalm === Nick_ is now known as Guest8306 [10:30] good lord [10:30] TLPI is absolutely massive [10:53] Morning all [10:53] morning all [10:53] heh [10:55] 1445 pages! [11:09] * bigcalm ponders transfering 1024 quid into a savings account just to be geeky [11:10] Sadly, nobody will get the geekyness and with interest, it'll become non-geeky later [11:12] you can divide 70 by the interest rate to find the number of years it will take to become £2048 [11:13] About 23 years [11:15] That zoostorm core i7 'cheap' pc I bought two months ago. emailed their tech support and an engineer will be here on tuesday. not bad for a pc bought off ebuyer [11:19] nothing but nice things to say about stuff bought off ebuyer [11:22] is there a way to disable apps running full-screen? [11:22] particularly blunderbird, which always seems to start full-screen no matter what [11:25] * smittix is a happy bunny today [11:25] gordonjcp: F11 sometimes flips [11:25] https://plus.google.com/111668224774411825334/posts [11:32] AlanBell: yeah, sorry, not fullscreen but maximised [11:32] blank page smittix [11:33] oh, your posts aren't public [11:33] I cannie read that hand writing [11:35] its easy! "Fa: James smith - I hope you angry my clang lets stag. I wish you the let in your adamfdn. All my hat, Heru Milnul 11/15/11" [11:37] :D [11:40] Ooo, it's LOUD O'CLOCK again! [11:41] popey: Turning it up to 11? [11:41] YES [11:41] my volume only goes to 10 =\ [11:42] but new mario arrived on my doorstep so i can be loud in celebration [11:42] gord: use the iPlay, it goes to 11 [11:43] iPlayer [11:43] hohum. [11:43] having a monitor that has DVI VGA and HDMI is a GOOD THING [11:43] [FACT] [11:43] popey: multiple signals? [11:43] yesh, no idea how to switch tho [11:44] ooo, touch controls [11:44] I love this screen [11:44] time to call Dell and ask for an EFI reset key or whatever it is called [11:44] No menu controls on the screen edge? [11:44] There you go :) [11:44] Philips 234EL [11:44] popey: Sorry better off here then https://twitter.com/smittytech/#/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FEt8N0SMH [11:45] Myrtti: New laptop? [11:45] My choice of album for the last 2 days: http://open.spotify.com/user/bigcalm/playlist/0GmiEYBq4vMumYIGeEkiN7 [11:45] I would 'crank it up', but Hayley has the day off and is still reading in bed [11:46] heh gord [11:46] I'm a good boy and wearing headphones [11:47] * AlanBell dispatches some CDs to Belfast [11:50] daubers: no, need to nuke my old and I've forgotten the admin password [11:50] in related news: any Linux-y job openings in Cambridgeshire? [11:51] I have and will look at jobsites but social networks work the best so asking here too :-P [11:51] Myrtti, always jobs going at canonical, not local to anywhere [11:52] gord: I know, my application is in :-/ [11:52] smittix: nice! [11:53] our HR department is always backlogged too ;) [11:53] gord, bigcalm: did you get home okay [11:53] davmor2, yes mum [11:54] gord: more important did it make a change :) [11:55] yeah was nice, would be nicer to find somewhere that's open to 6 though :) [11:56] gord: you can always prod them for me [11:56] whoa. [11:56] I just did what I've not done... pretty much ever [11:56] pressed the upgrade to newer ubuntu button in Update Manager. [11:56] exciting [12:00] gord: indeed but I don't think there are that many places that offer the feature free [12:01] davmor2: eventually. Train was packed despite it being 5 coaches long [12:01] bigcalm: nice [12:02] davmor2: unlikely to attend next month sorry. Will be available for January's gathering though [12:02] CUPS arggghh. [12:03] that is all [12:03] bigcalm: shame on you ;) [12:05] davmor2: I have that week as holiday and will be attending an xmas meal in the evening. Timings are a little squiffy :S [12:06] Though I can't get too squiffy that evening as I then have to drive dan-saff for the ubuntu-uk xmas meal the next day [12:09] If there's a prize for badly naming machines, I think I just founda very strong contender [12:10] we're being asked to update our JRE packages, and they've given us a url to get the corp image from. it's hosted on http://trojan.$corp.com/ [12:10] * oimon LOLs [12:10] Oh dear [12:10] I wish I was kidding [12:11] 30 [12:11] :) [12:11] that's like downloading antivirus from herpes.domain [12:12] especially since it's been done by mailshot instead of wsus. so random out-of-the-blue emails asking us to click the big 'trojan' button. [12:12] can you change your steam account login name? i am stuck with a lame one that somebody else chose for me [12:13] Would somebody mind trying out a walk-though I just jotted down? [12:13] http://www.myrant.net/2011/11/18/google-calendar-in-mozilla-thunderbird-on-ubuntu-11-10/ [12:13] oimon, nope [12:13] uhhuh [12:13] :( [12:13] i bought HL2 a few years back and the guy gave me his steam login too [12:13] pressing the Super-key in the middle of upgrading from 11.04 to11.10 wasn't a great idea [12:14] "ninjadeath", makes me sound like a 16yr old [12:15] better than goatse or worse i guess [12:17] that was painful [12:21] heh has anyone seen the google robo-car? http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81755975/ [12:22] hmm i've played 42 mins of portal. i guess that means i didn't really like it [12:23] 1 or 2? [12:23] 1 [12:23] got it free [12:23] :( [12:23] There's more of a story in 2 [12:24] in a previous life i would have played it a lot more i guess [12:24] now i get the chance to play PES on the WII for 20 minute snippets [12:24] bigcalm: works right up to the point where it asks me for a password, then I have no idea what to use [12:25] bigcalm: my gmail username and password that I used to log into the google calendar page don't work [12:25] gordonjcp: oh :( [12:26] I set this with my google apps account [12:26] gordonjcp: thank you for testing it for me though :) [12:30] bigcalm: my mistake, http vs. https [12:30] it works fine [12:30] \o/ [12:31] in "Calendar Settings" you need to click on the name of the calendar to get the details page up [12:32] You do? [12:33] I only have one calendar on this particular account and it shows the Calendar ID at the bottom of the page upon clicking Calendar Settings [12:34] Humm [12:35] Feel free to leave comments on the blog post :) [12:43] I need more nifty stickers [12:43] just pulled my MeeGo and Nomovok stickers from my old laptop [13:08] . [13:10] Myrtti: end of an era... [13:11] [Iain Cuthbertson] Google calendar in Mozilla Thunderbird on Ubuntu 11.10 - http://www.myrant.net/2011/11/18/google-calendar-in-mozilla-thunderbird-on-ubuntu-11-10/ [13:12] Gah, that confused me for a moment. Keep forgetting that I'm on there :) [13:16] argh [13:16] bloody maximised windows [13:16] why has 11.10 shipped with so many weird bugs like that? [13:24] gordonjcp: indeed [13:29] cheers all [13:31] Hmmm.. just had captain obvious and captain can't be bothered looking at the damp issues in the flat [13:33] daubers: let me guess, "oh, that's damp", "oh, well it's not my flat I don't care" :) [13:34] Cpt Obvious -> "There's a lot more humidity at the back of the building" me-> "Yes, that's what I've been telling you for the past few weeks from my sensor readings" captain can't be bothered -> "Well you must be causing it, I don't see why I should do anything about it" [13:34] Turns out the people who moved out from down stairs are suing over damage caused by the damp issues \o/ [13:35] daubers: nice [13:35] landlord still doesn't think there's an issue [13:55] jpds: ping [13:55] Thought for the day "Whatever you do today, do it 100%, unless you're giving blood" [13:55] :-D [14:08] in which case, give it 110%? === Nick_ is now known as Guest26972 [14:10] czajkowski: prod hello [14:11] * AlanBell will have to get another place booked http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ [14:15] Hey all - [14:16] Been trying to figure out how to sort out my wireless on the Dell laptop...it comes with an Intel 4965agn (open source driver) but since moving to 11.10 - it's pathetically slow - 1Mbs or less. [14:17] However got a Sony laptop with the same wireless model and it's faster (but still not very fast but at least it's faster than the broadband) [14:23] Grarrrrgh [14:24] AlanBell: Don't book another seat! Someone can have my 2. House buying process has been accelerated, hence no money now [14:24] * daubers changes his status on the thing if launchpad will let him in [14:36] ok, good news on the house, not so great news on the meal :( [14:36] it should let you change the status to not attending [14:37] AlanBell: Have done now [14:37] great [14:37] AlanBell: I'll try and make the london happy hour instead [14:59] I just love it when the risk register includes "Have lost 50% of development team". [15:00] There is a converse to that, 50% of the Dev team have left, so the remaining 50% have been able to fix what the others left broken [15:02] Alas, the guys who write the dreadful code don't work for us.. and 50% of our dev team is 2 people. They left mostly because of the dreadful code, methinks. [15:03] Ah well, the nervous breakdown will be relaxing. [15:03] * awilkins wubbles a bit [15:11] * daubers remembers the days when if 50% of the dev team had left, he'd have wondered who had sawn off his legs [15:14] o.O [15:16] anyone happen to know if i can get nautilus to just give me a listview all the time? [15:16] fed up of this icon view [15:17] gord: Edit → Preferences → List View ? [15:17] jpds, right that does it for that folder, but not everything [15:17] its like being back on windows [15:18] CTRL+2 is a handy shortcut [15:18] is it not a gconf thing? [15:18] gsettings now, but I've no idea [15:19] Seems to be somewhere http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.svn/339471 [15:20] nevermind found something in the preferences :) didn't even know nautilus had preferences [15:27] Windows has that preference too. I can't understand people who use icon view === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:27] Or people who don't immediately turn off "hide known file extensions" [15:28] gord: that's cause you just ain't 1337 enough to love it ;) [15:28] gord: That's what I said? [15:29] jpds, yeah, but i thought you meant the menu option === airurando_ is now known as airurando [16:08] if i build a new machine, can i put a hd with an existing ubuntu install in it? [16:09] Adriannom: Generally I've got away with that [16:09] me too [16:09] You can do, I've swapped hdd's between two machines of exactly the same model/hardware without issue [16:09] Unless you are putting a 64bit install into a 32bit machine, should work [16:10] it's 64bit to 64bit, but totally different hardware [16:10] i moved an XP install from an intel machine to amd yesterday. hoop jumping was required [16:10] and both amd [16:10] Should be ok [16:11] Try it :) [16:11] Adriannom: what graphics cards do they hav [16:11] i already did try it, got errors... just wanted to know what the likely scenario was [16:11] what was teh error? [16:11] gave up waiting for root device [16:12] sata disk? [16:12] then puts me in an initramfs prompt [16:12] yup, sdd [16:12] check the bios settings also [16:12] yeah good point :) [16:15] an animated bios ;o [16:16] just what i needed [16:22] Guys quick general question, if you are running squid in transparent mode, and stop the service squid should all requests go through normally ? [16:22] maybe the sata cable is faulty.. [16:22] I can't think straight at this time of day after a big meal at lunch time [16:22] :P [16:22] diplo: No [16:22] So what other issues might occur mgdm ? [16:22] diplo: if you kill Squid you kill all web access [16:23] So if the route to the internet is via 192.168.1.1 on the PC's we just need to redirect traffic out [16:23] you need to undo whatever's making it run in transparent mode [16:23] be it iptables or whatever [16:24] heh just did a iptables -L [16:24] Working though it now [16:25] argh [16:25] mobo doesn't support ahci [16:29] does that matter? i don't even know what ahci is for ;) [16:31] Adriannom, AHCI is a type of interface used for more modern drives [16:32] will my ssd suffer if my mobo doesn't support it? [16:32] I wouldn't have thought so, so long as your OS supports trim and your board is at least 3Gb/s [16:33] ok cool [16:33] Once loaded into Ubuntu I think there is something you have to add to your File System Table to enable TRIM [16:34] yeah i'll read up on trim [16:34] discard [16:34] http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim [16:34] yeah discard, thanks popey. Couldn't find the article on the drive in my server. [16:35] thanks [16:36] "gave up waiting for root device" doesn't go away when i type "exit" like google suggests [16:36] so, hmph [16:43] nah this is pointless, i guess i'd better do a clean install [16:43] thanks for helping guys [16:46] heyla [16:47] you know you're meant to be able to drag windows between workspaces on the workspace switcher in gnome classic? I can't do that. Could on first boot (just reinstalling due to a disk failure), but couldn't on second. Any idea what might be causing that? [16:47] I also can't drag windows into a new order on the window list applet on the panel [16:47] i've had that stop working randomly too [16:48] ... [16:48] and I just tried to drag my panel and it's vanished, heh [16:49] * denny looks bewildered [16:49] how am I supposed to get that back now? :) [16:50] * denny runs gnome-panel in a terminal, panel reappears [16:50] cute [16:51] on the wrong screen [16:51] cute :) [16:52] * denny makes a new panel on the centre monitor, drags everything onto it bit by bit [16:52] Fun javascript/CSS question. I have a mibbit widget on my site and would like to create a full screen button. So I want the iframe to go full browser size, but not reload the iframe. Is it possible? [16:53] try asking in #web maybe [16:53] will do :D [17:00] Using jQuery you could use something like: $('#iframeID').width($(window).width());$('#iframeID').height($(window).height()); [17:00] bigcalm: yea I've been trying to do something similar to that but it ends up being constrained to the content area on my website [17:00] rather than actually full screen [17:01] Azelphur: is the web browser full screen? [17:02] bigcalm: don't see the relevence but no :p [17:02] * bigcalm lets you ask elsewhere then [17:02] the browser window size isn't relevant surely, I only want to go full screen relative to the browser [17:03] just using the full size of the browser window [17:04] Azelphur, won't height: 100%; work? you'll need every parent container, including body, to have height: 100%; too [17:04] Azelphur: you might need to absolute position it [17:05] Adriannom: ah that's a good idea, looping through all the divs in the page and 100%ing them [17:05] Azelphur: that way it comes out of the normal flow of content, so you don't need 100% on everythjing else [17:05] I wouldn't do that [17:05] yeah mgdm is right [17:05] ok [17:06] Evenig [17:06] Evening [17:06]