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pleia2trying to figure out if I have enough energy to come down tonight :)00:49
jtatum:)00:50
* pleia2 has nothing nice to say about bind00:50
broderhmm...do i need to actually go and read that cve? i had been kind of ignoring it00:50
pleia2only if you allow public recursive requests00:51
broderok, good00:51
pleia2we don't, but we allow it for some LANs we manage and they are windows PCs who have who-knows-what garbage on them, and there are attacks in the wild now too, so we got a few calls from customers who couldn't get to some sites because their dns was dead00:51
broderoof00:52
pleia2sugarcrm.com's dns failed for about an hour today to, may be a coincidence but :\00:52
pleia2s/to/too00:53
pleia2"I am done with these bind updates, let's upgrade sugar, aaarrrghhh!" <-- my day00:53
bkerensapleia2: Do you know how to use SugarCRM's On-Demand?00:56
bkerensaI cant figure out how to access it with my pro account00:56
pleia2bkerensa: I know as little about SugarCRM as possible00:56
bkerensa=o00:56
bkerensaok00:56
bkerensapleia2: I'm going to a Debian Dinner tonight (Apparently they do them up here too)00:56
pleia2cool00:56
bkerensaJohn Goerzen is coming00:57
bkerensa:D00:57
pleia2don't know him, a DD?00:58
pleia2we have a couple DDs down here, but they don't come out much00:58
bkerensaYeah... He has also wrote like 10 books.... but apparently he just cancelled last minute00:58
bkerensayeah00:58
nhainesBummer.00:58
bkerensawell I guess everyone who will be there tonight aside from me is a major old school DD or Ubuntu Dev00:58
bkerensalike vorlan will be there tonight and he is DD and Ubuntu Dev00:59
pleia2yeah, I'm familiar with vorlan00:59
pleia2(not sure if I've met met him though)00:59
jtatumsteve langasek01:00
jtatumat every uds01:00
pleia2I have actually met him, but he's pretty outgoing01:00
pleia2see, I only meet non-shy people because I'm shy and it's impossible for two shy people to meet01:01
jtatumhe was my idol01:01
pleia2once I sat next to an online friend at a scifi convention, and later we're on IRC and he's like "was that you?"01:01
pleia2it was awesome, we're such dorks01:01
pleia2I should learn how to say hi, but it's hard :)01:02
jtatumjledbetter is better at emulating extrovert than I01:02
pleia2you're both quite approachable, smiling is good01:03
pleia2it's dark already, I think I'll take muni to caltrain, which means leaving now01:04
jtatumthanks pleia2. oh! great, we get to see you tonight01:05
jtatumexcellent01:05
pleia2wasn't going to because I have a million things to do, but last night was the same and I ate pizza and watched tv instead01:06
pleia2so I think this means I need to get out :)01:06
bkerensajtatum: Well I would much rather be at home perfecting my skill at Asian Cuisine but I got to make the rounds in the FOSS community plus the Debian guys want to utilize some of my venues and connections.... I also think it would be good to do Ubuntu Hours on the same day that way more people can get together01:07
jtatumsure01:08
bkerensaPlus it is epic cold out tonight :P and a hour trip there and back :P01:11
bkerensa39 degrees right now01:11
bkerensa:(01:11
jyooh, I'm coming tonight, btw.01:31
pleia2train!01:46
pleia2power outlet!01:53
pleia2:)01:53
akk\o/01:53
pleia2finally got to october team report https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/11/October02:06
jtatumhey from the Mountain View Ubuntu hour!03:11
* pleia2 waves from Mt View Ubuntu Hour too03:12
MarkDudeI was just out that way yesterday03:21
jtatumsorry we missed you, MarkDude03:33
MarkDudeMe too03:36
MarkDudestill super tired03:36
* akk waves from Mountain View03:53
jtatumwhelp04:05
jtatumfor anyone who couldn't make it tonight04:05
jtatummark your calendars :)04:05
bkerensapleia2: Looks like a West Coast DebConf might be in the works :D06:01
jyoHooray for yet another successful Mt. View Ubuntu Hour!06:01
bkerensajyo: +106:01
jyoWell, successful as in the usual suspects.06:02
akkand we had fun!06:02
greg-gjyo: awesome! I need to stay in MV longer one night to hit it up. I'm always kind of anxious to get back on the train to SF06:18
bkerensagnight06:23
nhainesbkerensa: good night.06:24
pleia2bkerensa: that would be cool but I won't hold my breath (it took forever to get a debconf in the states even once!)07:22
bkerensapleia2: Yeah... Would you come?07:25
pleia2bkerensa: I would like to, but it would depend on work07:25
bkerensanhaines: Yeah I need to go to bed :( got a long day tomorrow of pitching a proposal for a Ubuntu/Debian Bug Squash the first week of December :P07:25
bkerensagnight all07:26
pleia2night07:26
pleia2greg-g: on any night I'm down at the mt view ubuntu hour we could give you a ride home (tonight we had dinner out too, but usually we head right back up around 9PM)07:26
pleia2jyo lives in the city too, so I will volunteer him to give rides too ;)07:27
pleia2caltrain after rush hour takes foreeeever :\07:27
MarkDudecant get anymore last minute than that talk I just put in08:00
greg-gpleia2: yeah, post rush hour caltrain is about worthless, thanks for the offers!16:31
BotenAnnametrolink post rush hour doesn't exist lol16:48
MarkDudedragon, ping20:04
MarkDudehttp://events.hackerdojo.com/confirm/1155026-fedora-16-release-party-installfest-and-bbq20:04
MarkDudeYes it may be a Fedora event- ALL are welcome. We will also have some Ubuntu case badges, as well as some copies of Jono's Art of Community book20:05
MarkDudeGrand prize is a Beefy Miracle shirt, if the winner does not want that- we will get them an Ubuntu themed shirt- all courtesy of Daddy Shadowman20:06
MarkDudeakk, I hope you can make it20:06
akkMarkDude: I think I can, and definitely want to.20:06
jyoMarkDude: Excited about the Astros joining the AL West? :P20:06
MarkDudeVeggie and Meat dogs20:06
MarkDudeakk if they wear their really old stripey uniforms20:07
MarkDudeThose crappy rainbow polyester ones20:07
jyoSo excited for baseball in 2013! Interleague game everyday! Mariners-Astros games all the time!20:08
jyogreg-g: Yeah, I usually drive to the Mt. View Ubuntu Hour on my way back. Totally happy to give anyone a ride back to the city.20:09
greg-gjyo: sweet! :)20:09
philipballew_I need to hit up the mountain view hour when I am in norcal soon. Its only a couple hours from where I live there20:11
MarkDudephilipballew, come to a Dark Side party, we have food and desert- even prizes, and NO we are not trying to convert you20:14
philipballew_MarkDude, when is it?20:18
akkConverting someone to try another distro (not necessarily switch) might be a good thing.20:18
akkSeeing how other distros do things well can help improve one's own distro.20:19
nhainesI know all other distros are bad.  That's why I never use or try them.20:19
* akk hides her laptop so no one will see it's currently all debian derivatives ... really must do something about that20:19
philipballew_akk, I have here on my laptop is debian and ubuntu. though they are somewhat the same.20:19
akkphilipballew_: That's what I have right now. Want to put fedora on it, just have to set aside some time in case it stomps my boot sector and I have to fix it.20:20
MarkDudenhaines, +120:20
* philipballew_ doesnt let people know his desktop is currently open suse. 20:20
MarkDudeDec 4th 12-320:20
akkI had arch on the other laptop, but it kinda bitrotted.20:20
MarkDudeShhh, I am using Ubuntu right now20:21
MarkDudephilipballew, at the Hacker Dojo- in Mountain view20:21
philipballew_when I was at scale a year back the suse booth would not give me a cd untill i took my ubuntu laynard off20:21
* MarkDude wants all distros to get along20:21
nhainesakk: From the sounds of it, Arch combines all the power and configurability of Gentoo with all the ease of use and reliability of Gentoo.20:21
akkjeez, philipballew_, that's rude20:21
MarkDudephilipballew, they would not do that if Zonker was still around20:21
MarkDudeJoe is a good guy20:22
philipballew_MarkDude, I'll look at my schedule. as I live in both nor cal and socal20:22
MarkDudeGood deal- not a bad commute20:22
* philipballew_ still thinks norcal is better20:22
akkheh, nhaines. Actually it combines *some of* the configurability of gentoo, the lightweightness of, I dunno, in-between-debian-and-puppy, and the ease of use of debian.20:23
philipballew_is arch based off anything?20:23
nhainesI got the impression Arch installs tended to bitrot fairly quickly.20:23
nhainesphilipballew_: Ubuntu nerdrage.20:23
akknhaines: Plus: it's super easy to contribute packages, unlike more mainstream distros (anyone can put a package in AUR).20:23
philipballew_i thought i herd debian at one point. but might be wrong20:23
akknhaines: I wish ubuntu had something like that ... they keep talking about it but the cats can't agree on how to do it.20:24
philipballew_and it is a rolling distro20:24
nhainesakk: I think PPAs are a good solution for the moment.20:24
akknhaines: Ugh, ppas mean you have to go googling for a ppa, then pick one of the three you find and hope that it's the one that's actually kept up to date20:25
akkwhich probably won't be the same ppa anyone else you meet is using20:25
nhainesIs that different than random users adding arbitrarily-named packages?20:26
akkPeople show up on gimp saying "I got 2.7 from [long ppa url] and everybody's like "Who's that? no idea how recent it might be"20:26
akknhaines: If there's a central repository, then everybody knows where the package is and everybody's getting the same version.20:26
philipballew_software people put out several ppa's one for the newest version and one for daily updates. you have to read the fine print to make sure you got the right one20:26
akkPlus you don't end up with 27 ppas that you have to apt-get update from every time, some of which might start serving you package versions you didn't ask for.20:26
nhainesakk: that part isn't fun.20:27
philipballew_exactly.20:27
* philipballew_ is off to work.20:27
philipballew_time to fix peoples computers for 8 dollars an hour20:27
* nhaines wouldn't do that for less than $2020:28
nhainesActually, my home consulting rate is $80/hour.20:28
philipballew_its a school job so i get to pick my own hours. but I dont plan to be here for long20:28
nhainesLet anyone looking for consultants take note!  (My corporate rate is $120/hour though.)20:28
=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond
* MarkDude charges rates they used to in 1800s20:58
MarkDude3 beaver pelts and a bag of shiny beads20:58
MarkDudeWhen I kick ass- extra shiny beads20:58
bkerensa=/21:01
bkerensaBeavers are the Oregon State Animal21:01
nhainesbkerensa: are they delicious?21:06
pleia2!21:06
* nhaines will eat anything that isn't fast enough.21:07
pleia2I was about to wonder what california's is but then I remembered the big fluffy is on our flag :)21:07
nhainesIt's nature's way.21:07
akknhaines: A cool advantage of having hands and a big brain is that you can even eat things faster than yourself.21:08
akk(or, in the absence of hands/brain, having money will suffice :)21:08
pleia2hehe21:08
dragonMarkDude: pong23:06
dragonevent on hacker dojo site looks awesome.23:07
dragonI'll share it around.23:08
dragonwait, that's not a sharable link!!23:08
dragonThis is.23:08
dragonhttp://events.hackerdojo.com/event/1155026-fedora-16-release-party-installfest-and-bbq23:08

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