[00:35] <rick_h_> jcastro: I'll be good and hit the answer up :P
[00:36] <jcastro> I also meant your other questions
[00:36] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/users/1550/rick
[00:36] <jcastro> otherwise when you ask it's like "0% accept rate" and people are like "ewww"
[00:36] <rick_h_> yea, gotcha. I've got 100% on SO but my answers here haven't been home runs
[00:37] <rick_h_> you're right though
[03:18] <snap-l> Good evening
[03:34] <_stink_> yo
[03:41] <greg-g> hi hi
[03:41] <_stink_> is it like noon there?
[03:42] <greg-g> about :)
[04:13] <snap-l> Uploading another Club Metal
[04:13] <snap-l> This is one you won't want to miss
[04:13] <snap-l> the lead track is so damn powerful
[04:31] <snap-l> Your ears deserve to hear this episode, so I couldn't wait to share: !openmetalcast Special Episode: Club Metal 7
[04:31] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/11/17/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-7/
[04:35] <snap-l> Wow, identi.ca use has really tapered off
[04:35] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/snapl/all
[04:47] <greg-g> yeah, it is sad :(
[04:53] <snap-l> I'm not even getting the normal kook response
[12:39] <rick_h_> morning
[12:39] <rick_h_> bah, another day of rss, another day without a nexus link
[13:02] <Wolfger> rick_h_: at least it's a Friday without a nexus link...
[13:03] <rick_h_> booooo!
[13:03] <rick_h_> but yea, friday ftw, I need this weekend
[13:05] <Wolfger> this weekend will be nice. Next weekend will be better. 4-day ftw
[13:06] <brousch> rick_h_: so your head has not exploded yet?
[13:08] <rick_h_> brousch: get with me at the end of the day
[13:08] <rick_h_> if I can finally get my merges into dev today I'll be happy
[13:08] <rick_h_> if not...get the paper towels
[13:10] <brousch> i'll bring a tarp
[13:21] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/11/17/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-7/
[13:21] <snap-l> You must listen to the first track, at the very least
[13:21] <snap-l> I know the industrial / cyber-metal isn't everyone's cup of tea.
[13:24] <brousch> dangit, i am just about to start ep 33
[13:24] <brousch> i'm like 3 behind now
[13:24] <snap-l> That's OK. They don't expire. ;)
[13:25] <Wolfger> I need to go through and get the last instumetalcast still.
[14:14] <snap-l> http://xkcd.com/979/
[14:15] <rick_h_> yea, it needs to go into the halls of the great xkcd
[14:15] <ColonelPanic001> so very true
[14:15] <ColonelPanic001> especially the alt-text
[14:16] <snap-l> That's about it
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> I want to send flowers to the poster every time the thread only has two posts, and the second is the same guy saying "figured it out, here's what I did"
[14:16] <snap-l> Hey, Windows is updating
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> STOP
[14:16] <ColonelPanic001> KILL IT
[14:17] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: My favorites are the forum posts that have three posts. #1 is exactly the issue I'm having
[14:17] <snap-l> and the other two are "bump"
[14:17] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> also have seen that.
[14:18] <snap-l> And by favorite, I mean that's when my soul dies a little bit more
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> https://www.xkcd.com/978/
[14:18] <ColonelPanic001> also good
[14:19] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Yeah, I'm sure more than one book out there has been Wikipedia fodder
[14:19] <ColonelPanic001> I wish he mentioned which
[14:19] <ColonelPanic001> I bet it's that one guy. Crap, forgot his name
[14:20] <ColonelPanic001> looking
[14:21] <ColonelPanic001> bah, I have no idea. Older asian guy with shoulder length hair
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> somehow, everytime I read the title of a book of his, it either sounds overly "pop" for pop science, or just.. suspicious
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> Michio Kaku
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> there it is
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Michio_Kaku
[14:23] <snap-l> Michio
[14:23] <snap-l> Bah, you beat me to the answer
[14:23] <snap-l> was reading top-down
[14:24] <snap-l> I'm wondering  if xkcd means something like those business books that purport to be science
[14:24] <snap-l> or based in science
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> business books?
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> "The One Minute Manager... with Physics"
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> I <3 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/James_Burke_%28science_historian%29
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> mainly just because I f'ing loved Connections
[14:25] <snap-l> "Here's the neuro-science of why you can't get up in the morning, based on a theory that you're brain feels you're instead running from alligators"
[14:25] <ColonelPanic001> ah
[14:25] <snap-l> And her'es why coffee is bad for you, reason 101
[14:26]  * ColonelPanic001 sips his french vanilla cappuccino
[14:26] <snap-l> AND WHO MOVED MY GODDAMN CHEESE
[14:29] <ColonelPanic001> must be some very good cheese
[14:30] <brousch> crazy stuff http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/11/17/physicists-create-light-from-nothingness/
[14:31] <snap-l> So Forbes does science when it's convenient to do so? :)
[14:32] <brousch> must be a slow business and finance news day
[14:33] <snap-l> I passed it along to JoDee
[14:34] <snap-l> Let's just say the big print exciteth, and the little print diminisheth
[14:34] <_stink_> hah
[14:34] <_stink_> yes
[14:35] <_stink_> that headline writer should be ashamed.
[14:36] <_stink_> science reporting sucks so bad.
[14:36] <snap-l> JoDee totally agrees
[14:36] <snap-l> It's the equivlent of "A PRESIDENT DIES! FIND OUT WHICH ONE!"
[14:36] <_stink_> lulz
[14:36] <_stink_> yeah
[14:39] <ColonelPanic001> _stink_: yer one of them scientists. What's a decent place to read science news? As in, essentially pop-science. Serious, accurate stuff, but stuff I'll understand, at least well enough to look up background or ask about on my own.
[14:39] <_stink_> this is very sad
[14:39] <_stink_> but i honestly have no clue
[14:40] <_stink_> i can ask around
[14:40]  * ColonelPanic001 checks his often neglected RSS reader
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.ucsusa.org/
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.newscientist.com/
[14:40] <snap-l> physicsworld.com
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> http://www.sciencenews.org/
[14:40] <snap-l> (so sayeth the JoDee)
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> your opinion on those would be great
[14:40] <ColonelPanic001> snap-l: thanks, I'll add it
[14:40] <Wolfger> readable by the common man, yet accurate info? I don't think it exists. :-p
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> QUIET, NAYSAYER
[14:41] <Wolfger> nay
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> sayer
[14:41] <_stink_> ucsusa.org seems political.
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> it is
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> maybe nevermind that one
[14:41] <snap-l> Skeptic's Guide to the Universe also has a lot of science on it
[14:41] <ColonelPanic001> not really 'science news'
[14:41] <_stink_> newscientist.com smells funky, but i'll dig deeper
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> I added these just on a whim, so feel free to tear them apart.
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not a "fan" of any of them
[14:42] <_stink_> physicsworld.com looks very good, but is narrow.
[14:42] <ColonelPanic001> it's narrow, but that's what RSS readers are for. heh
[14:42] <snap-l> astrobites is also good
[14:42] <_stink_> sciencenews.org wins because of the hilarious front page picture and caption
[14:42] <snap-l> but it's extremely narrow.
[14:43] <Wolfger> "if you were able to spin a mirror at speeds close to the speed of light, then the mirror would convert virtual photons into actual photons" .... so, the headline should be "Physicists [Can] Create Light From Nothingness [in Theory]"
[14:44] <ColonelPanic001> CNN.com: "PHYSICISTS CLAIM TO BE GOD"
[14:44] <snap-l> You're also using the physicist version of the word "light"
[14:44] <_stink_> the subtitle on physicsworld.com is the right one: "Physicists convert virtual photons into real ones"
[14:45] <_stink_> which is boring, i guess
[14:46] <_stink_> http://www.sciencenews.org/view/access/id/336322/title/sm_vole-mokkonen2HR.jpg
[14:46] <_stink_> c'mon that is funny
[14:47] <snap-l> That seriously need some captions
[14:48] <ColonelPanic001> agreed
[14:49] <snap-l> I'm starting to think the Squeezebox server is not nearly as random as it claims
[14:49] <snap-l> three times this week it's recommended "The Buck Pets - Mercuritones"
[14:50] <snap-l> which either means that the algorithm isn't that great, or the Squeezebox feels that was a decent, but rather overlooked 1990s album.
[14:50] <snap-l> Which means my Squeezebox is a fucking music hipster
[14:50] <_stink_> probably
[14:51] <ColonelPanic001> awesome. someone has some musical crap over here
[14:52] <snap-l> Want some recommendations?
[15:00] <brousch> snap-l: i got the care box the other day. thanks
[15:00] <snap-l> brousch: Awesome.
[15:00] <snap-l> Did everything show up OK?
[15:00] <brousch> looks like it
[15:01] <snap-l> Cool. I was a little worried it might have scuffed up things.
[15:09] <brousch> snap-l: did you like Tyson Boogie?
[15:09] <brousch> a couple seemed OK
[15:10] <brousch> crap, forgot my headphones today
[15:10] <snap-l> brousch: I listened to it a bit
[15:10] <snap-l> Their description confuses me, though
[15:11] <snap-l> I'm hoping they're not indirectly covering AC/DC. :)
[15:11]  * snap-l tries not to play covers on the show
[15:52] <ColonelPanic001> I just looked at reallifecomics.com for the first time in ages
[15:52] <ColonelPanic001> wtf he has a kid
[15:52] <snap-l> Yep
[15:53] <ColonelPanic001> I missed so much :\
[15:53] <snap-l> You weren't watching close enough
[15:53] <snap-l> he went and got married and had a kid all in that time
[15:53] <snap-l> It's YOUR FAULT.
[15:53] <ColonelPanic001> I think I remember him getting married, don't remember
[17:30] <Wolfger> Awesome. I just loaded some media in Dolphin browser on my Android, and the progress bar started out at NAN%
[17:30] <Wolfger> then went up to 0% and on through 100% as expected.
[17:33] <Wolfger> what was the name of the service I used to use that tries to tie all your social networks together? (not that I expect anybody to *know* which one *I* used, but with a few guesses I should see and recognize the right one)
[17:34] <ColonelPanic001> firefox
[17:35] <Wolfger> service, not app :-p
[17:35] <Wolfger> ColonelPanic001 gets a fail for the day
[17:36] <ColonelPanic001> Firefox sync
[17:38] <Blazeix> plaxo?
[17:38] <Blazeix> that's the only one i know of
[17:40] <snap-l> ping.fm?
[17:40] <Wolfger> ping, yes!
[17:40] <Wolfger> Thank you
[17:40]  * snap-l pats himself on the head.
[17:41] <Wolfger> Google suggested posterous and slideshare
[17:41] <snap-l> plaxo? Isn't that a prescription drug? :)
[17:48] <Blazeix> ping? isn't that apple's social network?
[17:53] <Wolfger> ping.fm predated Apple's ping by quite a bit
[17:53] <Wolfger> or maybe apple bought it out. i don't know. I pay little attention to what Apple does.
[17:56] <greg-g> not bought out, separatethings
[17:56] <greg-g> unlike my words
[18:16] <Wolfger> lol
[18:32] <brousch> snap-l: d00d, i just listened to omc ep 20. best. omc. evar.
[18:32] <brousch> live from penguicon
[18:33] <greg-g> oh right, with the new install, and no easy way to transfer radio stations/podcasts from one banshee install to another, I failed to resub to lococast/omc :(
[18:35] <brousch> well that was an old one that i missed. i have them queued up
[18:44] <snap-l> brousch: thanks. :)
[18:47] <snap-l> greg-g: Spread the love as well. Trying to grow the shows. :)
[18:48] <greg-g> snap-l: will do, I redent/tweet when I can :)
[18:49] <snap-l> Much appreciated.
[18:49] <snap-l> I'm sure the folks at the CC offices don't just listen to drum circles. ;)
[18:50] <greg-g> haha, not many metal heads, unfortunately
[18:50] <brousch> new age hippiy crap
[18:55] <Wolfger> what exactly is new age hippy music?
[18:56] <Wolfger> I mean it used to be Dylan and Joplin and Hendrix...
[18:56] <brousch> whale songs and gurgling water
[18:57] <Wolfger> ah, exactly as I thought.... just making crap up again. :-)
[19:00] <brousch> as usual
[19:01] <snap-l> It's the sound of whales yelling at each other overlaid with pan flute and harp.
[19:02] <brousch> that's much too violent
[19:02] <snap-l> do you speak whale?
[19:02] <brousch> it is the sound of whales making love in the deep while dryads and nymphs cheer them on
[19:03] <Wolfger> dryads live in forests....
[19:03] <Wolfger> definitely not deep-dwelling cretures
[19:03] <Wolfger> :-p
[19:04]  * Wolfger wonders what exactly a hippy looks/acts like in brousch's mind
[19:04] <brousch> so what's a dryad called that lives in a kelp forest?
[19:04] <Wolfger> *sigh*
[19:05] <Wolfger> a mermaid
[19:05] <Wolfger> dryads are tree spirits dammit
[19:05] <Wolfger> kelp "forest" nonwithstanding
[19:06] <Wolfger> sirens perhaps is what you're thinking of
[19:07] <brousch> i'm not thinking of anything. i'm making crap up
[19:07] <brousch> you're putting entirely too much thought into this thing
[19:09] <Wolfger> and thus Hannity and Limbaugh are explained. Don't think, just make crap up. :-)
[19:09] <snap-l> My mother was a dryad.
[19:17] <snap-l> btw: new cloudkicker album dropped
[19:17] <snap-l> two, actually.
[19:32] <ColonelPanic001> WAT
[19:32] <ColonelPanic001> must aquire.
[19:39] <Wolfger> vimhelp!
[19:40]  * Wolfger waits for rick_h_ to swoop in from out of nowhere
[19:40] <rick_h_> don't ask to ask...just ask :P
[19:40] <ColonelPanic001> he did ask. to sak.
[19:40] <ColonelPanic001> ask.
[19:40] <Wolfger> :set wm=80 does nothing.... :set wm=78 issues a new line after every whitespace
[19:41] <Wolfger> what am I doing wrong?
[19:41] <rick_h_> use tw
[19:41] <rick_h_> wm is based on the current window size, no current text
[19:41] <Wolfger> what is tw?
[19:41] <rick_h_> textwidth
[19:41] <Wolfger> ok
[19:41] <rick_h_> :help wm and :help tw
[19:43] <Wolfger> oh. Duh. wm is from the right border, not left. I misread that. Or rather, my brain ignored what I read in favor of what I expected.
[19:43] <Wolfger> thanks
[19:43] <rick_h_> np
[19:48] <Wolfger> freshly armed with :help, /me heads back into the fray
[19:53] <ColonelPanic001> Let Yourself Be Huge is pretty good
[20:04] <snap-l> Yeah, it's definitely a differnet album
[20:07] <ColonelPanic001> THERE BE VOCALS IN THIS HERE CLOUDKICKER
[20:08] <snap-l> release the hounds
[20:08] <ColonelPanic001> with bees in their mouths
[20:09] <rick_h_> Blazeix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCexiX_eUJA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1 YUI MVC fun
[20:11] <ColonelPanic001> I don't like ever mentioning an author in code comments, because svn/git/etc does that anyway, and often there's plenty of people that alter the code. can't list them all.
[20:11] <ColonelPanic001> thoughts?
[20:11] <snap-l> agree
[20:11] <_stink_> you are trying to take all the crdit
[20:11] <_stink_> credit
[20:12] <rick_h_> ColonelPanic001: +1, don't make crap in comments I don't care about
[20:12] <ColonelPanic001> nah, it's just for example, here in grades.php. What is Eric edits it? Am I stil the "author"? Of what parts?
[20:12] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Also, it depends on if this is code that's being exposed to the rest of the world
[20:12] <snap-l> or if the license demands credit (aka: the XFree license)
[20:13] <_stink_> right, just teach people git blame
[20:13] <snap-l> There needs to be a git bless
[20:13] <snap-l> blame for "who broke the $%%&%^& build"
[20:13] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[20:13] <snap-l> Bless to turn people into objects in Perl. ;)
[20:13] <snap-l> Um, n/ms
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> I give up.
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> find . -name "*.php" works
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> I want to add to that, "-exec php -l;"
[20:53] <ColonelPanic001> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[20:54] <ColonelPanic001> I've tried all kinds of variations on that
[20:54] <ColonelPanic001> halp
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> _stink_ fixed it
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> needed a trailing, \, seems
[20:55] <ColonelPanic001> find . -name "*.php" -exec php -l {} \;
[20:56] <snap-l> yes
[20:56] <snap-l> You can also use xargs
[20:57] <_stink_> heh
[20:57] <snap-l> find . -name "*.php" -print0 | xargs -0 php -l
[20:57] <snap-l> I believe that's equivalent, and will also null-pad spaces.
[20:57] <_stink_> ColonelPanic001: I TOLD YOU TO ASK HERE
[20:58] <ColonelPanic001> nah, the xargs method is how I started try to do it, and it gave me problems
[20:58] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not picky
[21:00] <snap-l> Well, my most random e-mail of the day:
[21:00] <snap-l> SOme seminar for getting my resume read by recruiters
[21:00] <snap-l> Sponsored by my company
[21:00] <snap-l> I think they're telling me something
[21:00] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[21:01] <ColonelPanic001> I wonder if I could make vim run php -l on a php files whenever I save it. I may try this after a bathroom break
[21:01] <snap-l> it was a meeting notice
[21:04] <rick_h_> Blazeix: you around this weekend? Would love to pick your brain on this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rharding/launchpad/bugfix_891735/view/head:/lib/lp/contrib/javascript/yui3-gallery/gallery-text-expander/gallery-text-expander.js
[21:04] <rick_h_> basically rehacked the heck of a plugin that needed help
[21:04] <rick_h_> but it's friday and I'm missing an easier way to do the resize on deleting I think
[22:47] <Blazeix> rick_h_: hey, I'll be around. I haven't examined the yui text expander code yet, but did you see this recent alistapart article? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/expanding-text-areas-made-elegant/
[23:56] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, I changed some of the old plugin based on that
[23:56] <rick_h_> like the move from the keyup event to the valueChange YUI event
[23:56] <rick_h_> but didn't go all the way to the dual html element setup
[23:58] <Blazeix> any particular reason? it looks like the old plugin code assumes 60 char width, is a bit hacky
[23:58] <rick_h_> heh, that's my change
[23:58] <rick_h_> the old plugin code actually set the height to 1 line tall, and then reexpanded it
[23:58] <rick_h_> I added the 60char test to try to avoid flashing it all the way to nothing and back again
[23:58] <rick_h_> which is what I wanted to chat about
[23:59] <rick_h_> the negative of the list apart stuff is the double elements
[23:59] <rick_h_> I was trying to work with just keeping the single textarea
[23:59] <rick_h_> oops, family over afk for a while