[00:00] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox natty
[00:00] <kaushal> ActionParsnip:
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Ek123: which version do you want?
[00:00] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/741756/
[00:00] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: Firefox 8
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: sudo kill -9 7550    should do it
[00:01] <Nichola> I am having a horrible time trying to install ubuntu on a gateway laptop....wondering if I should just give up. You guys are my only hope...
[00:01] <kaushal> BarkingFish: I am running ubuntu server 10.04.3 and i tried running the command
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Ek123: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/firefox-8-officially-released/
[00:01] <MeQuerSat> Nichola, give up
[00:01] <kaushal> apt-get install smokeping
[00:01] <kaushal> it gets stuck
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> MeQuerSat: not constructive
[00:02] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/741754/
[00:02] <Nichola> yes, I did test it
[00:02] <MeQuerSat> ActionParsnip, trust me, it is
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: how are you wanting to install the OS?
[00:02] <MeQuerSat> Nichola, wait for the next release and give it a try again
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> MeQuerSat: no, its not at all
[00:02] <MeQuerSat> then
[00:02] <blackshirt> Nichola: what type your laptop ?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: try the PIDs one at a time
[00:03] <MeQuerSat> ActionParsnip, it'll will save him/her a lot of time just waiting for the next release ;)
[00:03] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: i did that already
[00:03] <BarkingFish> MeQuerSat: No, it most certainly isn't. We're here to help people, your comments don't help anyone.
[00:03] <kaushal> it still didnot worked
[00:03] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: I saw that and it says on 11.04 and 11.10 it should show up in the update manager automatically but it hasn't yet and the software centre is still on Firefox 7
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> MeQuerSat: the current releases which are not EOL are fully supported here
[00:03] <BarkingFish> If you're not able to help, or have no intention of helping, please refrain from commenting, MeQuerSat
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Ek123: it will soon, as the page states
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: tried a reboot?
[00:04] <Nichola> I have a gateway W340UI
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: are you using a CD or USB or Wubi?
[00:04] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: i cannot do that
[00:04] <kaushal> since its a production box
[00:04] <Nichola> I have attempted a usb, and a mini CD
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | kaushal
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: try that
[00:05] <BarkingFish> Nichola: what happens when you try to install it?
[00:05] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: what happens when you boot the USB?
[00:05] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: That was 9 days ago, I just assumed it should have already updated by now. If not, fair enough.
[00:05] <Nichola> It freezes up. At different places, but eventually, frozen
[00:05] <blackshirt> Nichola: what part step make you stuck ?
[00:05] <Guest57226> Hi, how do I run a startup application (shell command) in a window?
[00:06] <BarkingFish> Nichola: how long have you left it at the part where you say it gets stuck?
[00:06] <Nichola> It doesn't seem to be a paticular step, unless I could say the final install. But it has gotten stuck in other spots as well...
[00:07] <BarkingFish> Depending on the speed of your USB device, it could simply be slow to install.
[00:07] <Nichola> I have left it overnight twice..
[00:07] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/741764/
[00:07] <BarkingFish> ah, well not that slow then :)
[00:07] <Vey> I put the gnome shell on. Still not 10.10 but much better in usability so far.
[00:07] <iceroot> Guest57226: gnome-terminal -e your-command
[00:07] <Guest57226> iceroot: Thank you!
[00:07] <iceroot> Guest57226: if it is that what you mean
[00:08] <BarkingFish> Nichola: what operating system was on the laptop prior to your wanting to install Ubuntu?
[00:08] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: Any further clue ?
[00:09] <Nichola> it was an unregistered version of windows 7. The laptop was originally designed for Vista
[00:09] <BarkingFish> hm.  I've heard of 7 doing strange things to disks, i can't remember what though.
[00:10] <BarkingFish> give me a moment please, Nichola :)
[00:10] <kaushal> BarkingFish: Any clue ?
[00:10] <Nichola> I just bought it used and was told I could stick ubuntu on it...
[00:10] <Jonii> Hey, what sort of stuff can I do to make my ubuntu profile as sterile as possible? Like, remove all access that's possible to remove, remove all use history as far as it's possible etc?
[00:10] <Artemis3> Nichola, is it hot when it freezes?
[00:10] <kaushal> BarkingFish: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/741764/
[00:10] <Nichola> no, it is never hot, maybe slightly warm...but not hot
[00:10] <Braber01> Hi I'm having trouble getting Evelotion to send any e-mails i know it's pop3 address but I don't know how to get it to send anyting
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: thats all I got, all I can recommend is to schedule some down time
[00:11] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:11] <kaushal> so no way out ?
[00:11] <Roodypoo> I am trying to install something on Ubuntu and I get this: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[00:11] <Artemis3> Nichola, if you run the live desktop without installing, does it freezes as well? or you can use the machine all the time?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: what graphics chip does it use?
[00:11] <Roodypoo> How do I fix this?
[00:11] <Roodypoo> window 4
[00:11] <iceroot> Roodypoo: use sudo
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: what is window 4?
[00:12] <Nichola> yes it freezes on the demo sometimes..
[00:12] <iceroot> Roodypoo: sudo apt-get install packagename
[00:12] <Nichola> ATI/AMD
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: is there an update running? Is software centre running?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: try the boot option: nomodeset
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Nichola: also test your RAM health
[00:12] <Nichola> okay, how do I do that?
[00:13] <Braber01> how do I edit my settings for evelotion?
[00:13] <Nichola> I tested the memory...
[00:13] <Roodypoo> ActionParsnip: no it is not.
[00:13] <Artemis3> Nichola, there something else you could try, use Lubuntu and see if it freezes there, or Xubuntu but quickly turn of compositing.
[00:13] <Roodypoo> iceroot: I use sudo and it still comes up.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Nichola
[00:13] <Artemis3> Nichola, then see if its stable with either of these
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it ok?
[00:13] <iceroot> Roodypoo: is there enough space left on /car?
[00:14] <iceroot> Roodypoo: /var
[00:14] <Roodypoo> ActionParsnip: I'll try
[00:15] <Roodypoo> ActionParsnip: I get the same error
[00:15] <garden92> is there a way to run mac on ubuntu like wine does for windows?
[00:15] <iceroot> garden92: no
[00:15] <iceroot> garden92: its not allowed to run mac osx on other hardware
[00:16] <ketty> kay passèèèèèè
[00:16] <Roodypoo> iceroot: ActionParsnip I should add that I deleted /dpkg/ a long time ago
[00:16] <Roodypoo> when I was new to Ubuntu
[00:16] <iceroot> Roodypoo: that is an important detail...
[00:17] <unique> can i run my own private cloud off of ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: try http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[00:17] <iceroot> Roodypoo: have fun with a rescue-system/live-cd to restore dpkg
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: may help
[00:17] <crystaltvco> Hello.. im on lynx and when I try to run the update manager, I am asked for my root password, enter it and then it just goes back to the same screen..
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: too right, yowser
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Roodypoo: deleting random folders isn't very smart
[00:18] <georgieee> I have a huge problem. Usually ubuntu just auto mounted my mobile (which is connected via USB). This is not working anymore and I dont want to manually mount all the devices via fstab. what can I do to solve this problem?
[00:18] <Roodypoo> ActionParsnip: Im new to Ubuntu and yes I realize that now.
[00:18] <Roodypoo> iceroot: I need to reinstall Ubuntu?
[00:18] <iceroot> Roodypoo: no
[00:18] <iceroot> Roodypoo: but i guess its the easiest way
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[00:19] <Roodypoo> Oh well lesson learnt.
[00:19] <Roodypoo> Thanks for the input guys.
[00:19] <iceroot> Roodypoo: the other way is a live-system where you restore dpkg binary files
[00:19] <crystaltvco> will update manager just bounce back to it's main screen if your root password is wrong??
[00:19] <Jonii> Hey, for some reason Google Chromium is not visible in my alt+tab switcher
[00:19] <iceroot> Roodypoo: but if it is a fresh install and you are a new user i would sugest to reinstall
[00:19] <Jonii> What's going on?
[00:20] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. Using ubuntu 11.10 with gnome, I allowed an update yesterday and, after rebooting, My monitor only has 2 settings for the resolution and none is the right one. What can I do now? TIA!
[00:20] <iceroot> Roodypoo: and in the future never use sudo with rm in one line as a ubuntu-beginner
[00:21] <Roodypoo> I'll keep that in mind. Thanks guys.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: which GPU? What is the make and model of the system (if it has one)?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: can you select it with mouse?
[00:23] <crystaltvco> any one have any ideas why update manager wont run? I got no errors after putting in my root password
[00:23] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I cannot recall the model of the GPU, all I know is that its an nvidia and that I'm using the  appropiate additional driver
[00:23] <Nichola> Okay, I never get to that splash screen like in the link I looked at. I never see a little keyboard...
[00:23] <Nichola> I just took my computer through it and it never came up...
[00:24] <pooltable> i just notice a legal notice with qbtorrent that is is a file shareing software is this normal??
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: did you use the proprietary driver or the open one?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: some apps have warnings, transmission does it too on first run
[00:25] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:25] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: propietary
[00:25] <stochastic> can anyone help me update my flash player to the non-free version #11?
[00:25] <Jonii> It's just not present in alt+tab switcher
[00:25] <Jonii> It's available in super+w switcher
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: try uninstalling the driver then reinstalling it, may help
[00:25] <claire> ack
[00:26] <spinx> what kind of card you have nvidia or aTI ?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: strange, if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace     does it show up ok?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> spinx: whom are you asking?
[00:26] <spinx> nimbiotics
[00:26] <chaospsychex> how do i mount a USB drive in kubuntu 11.10?
[00:27] <crystaltvco> Hello.. im on lynx and when I try to run the update manager, I am asked for my root password, enter it and then it just goes back to the same screen..
[00:27] <nimbiotics> spinx: nvidia
[00:27] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: it seems to, yes
[00:27] <spinx> nu
[00:27] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: hmm i dont see how I can uninstall it
[00:27] <spinx> nimbiotics: well download the drivers from nvidias homepage. they seem to work best. i have those now working really good
[00:28] <mbeierl> Switched to Radeon (open source) module for 11.04 and now I have display issues where the screen does not redraw/refresh properly.  There are bits of prior windows still showing on the screen.  Anyone have pointers on where to look for troubleshooting?
[00:28] <Jonii> A question: How to give outlogin to some specific user?
[00:28] <georgieee> /etc/PolicyKit$ sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[00:28] <nimbiotics> spinx: but is it a generic driver for all their cards? cause i dont recall the model...
[00:29] <Jonii> Or how to change a password of my account, if I'm not an administrator?
[00:29] <georgieee> sry
[00:29] <nac-godfather> Anyone know why any item in my "Places" Menu is opened with gnome-mplayer
[00:29] <ikonia> Jonii: you can change the password of your own account without being an administrator
[00:29] <nac-godfather> I uninstalled gnome-mplayer, and it was corrected (nautilus).  But then when I reinstall, then it happens again.
[00:29] <ikonia> Jonii: just do "passwd" on the comnmand line
[00:29] <spinx> there is a feature that will autodetect what card you have.. or you can simply open your case and read what it sais on the card :P
[00:29] <ikonia> http://pastebin.com/3qn7Wdsk
[00:29] <ikonia> oops
[00:29] <ikonia> sorry
[00:29] <ikonia> pastebuffer
[00:30] <ikonia> Jonii: do you understaand that you just need to use "passwd" to change your own password
[00:31] <Jonii> ikonia: I don't understand what's passwd
[00:31] <pooltable> how do i set up a time to lock my computer
[00:31] <Jonii> And I'm only aware of this gui-tool to change password
[00:31] <ikonia> Jonii: a command you use on the command line
[00:32] <mbeierl> Ok, it seems it's a compiz thing and going into compiz workarounds and using Force synchronization between X and GLX might have done the trick.
[00:32] <jakobbg> Hi, i have a friend right now running lubuntu, and he is suddenly not able to log in, he's on the other side of the world and he needs my help. how can i get into single user mode, i don't think grub is running on it. he's got 11.04 installed
[00:32] <crystaltvco> i figured it out.. using wrong root password lol
[00:32] <crystaltvco> later
[00:33] <jakobbg> i'm talking with him on skype. he's in alaska, i'm in norway ... and he desperately needs to be able to log in
[00:33] <spinx> nimbiotics: there is a feature that will autodetect what card you have.. or you can simply open your case and read what it sais on the card :P pasted it again in case you didnt see it
[00:35] <nac-godfather> see if he has any process running?  Is he NAT?
[00:35] <nac-godfather> maybe ssh...
[00:37] <jakobbg> my friend does not see any grub menu upon booting, are there any key-combos needed to display the grub menu?
[00:38] <OerHeks> jakobbg, hold left Shift @boot, this will appear the grubmenu
[00:39] <jakobbg> OerHeks: great, he tries
[00:40] <jakobbg> that worked
[00:40] <Aaronneyer> Can someone help me out with an error Im getting.  Im trying to install a package and it keeps saying "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python3.1"
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> Aaronneyer: What packge, ad where did the package come from?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: sudo apt-get -f install    may do it
[00:41] <Aaronneyer> Package is dupeGuru
[00:41] <Aaronneyer> http://www.hardcoded.net/dupeguru_me/
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: are you using Natty or later?
[00:42] <Aaronneyer> Oneiric
[00:42] <tonyyarusso> Aaronneyer: File a bug with the authors.  The correct way to do it in Ubuntu would be package name python3, with a version >= 3.1.0.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: then the command I gave will help
[00:43] <tonyyarusso> Aaronneyer: (In other words, the code in their package is wrong.)
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !info python3.1
[00:43] <Aaronneyer> The command you get would work if I was getting it from the repositories
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !info python
[00:43] <Aaronneyer> But I downloaded the file
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: no, it wil pull down the deps to satisfy them
[00:43] <Aaronneyer> Ok, so what exact code should I type?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: its not just for the repos, its the package system as a whole
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: scroll up
[00:44] <Aaronneyer> I tried sudo apt-get -f install
[00:44] <jakobbg> OerHeks: seemed like he had forgotten his username, box had auto-login earlier, and now it did not work any longer
[00:44] <Aaronneyer> But what am I supposed to type afterwards
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: that's it, thats the command
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: I don't see how -f install is going to do anything for him.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: it will pull down the required deps (assuming they are available) to [f]ix the issue
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: There is no such package as 'python3.1'.  That's his problem.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: it may just be python or something else, the manifest in the deb will tell the OS what it needs
[00:46] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: The package name is just python3.  The rest is in the version string only.
[00:46] <jakobbg> seems like an update has broken gui login, it only works in text-mode. fsck
[00:46] <alexeyy> my desktop and application panel doesn't work. When i try run it in terminal i get Segmentation fault. (sorry for my english). Help me plz.
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[00:46] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: Right, I know that.  The deb he has is wrong.  It has a Depends line programmed in that is not satisfiable.
[00:46] <jakobbg> and now he's stuck in text mode ... hmmm.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: lets see if the command works first
[00:47] <tonyyarusso> It won't.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: lets see instead of assuming
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: if it doesn't then we can move in a different way to if it does
[00:47] <Aaronneyer> Nothing really happened for it
[00:47] <Aaronneyer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 211 not upgraded
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: ok then run:  sudo apt-get upgrade    to get those in
[00:48] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: There was a package named python3.1 in 10.04, which is what the deb was built for, but it no longer exists as such on 11.10.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: I see
[00:48] <eXpander> How do I install Ubuntu in my car?
[00:48] <oldschool> hi does anyone know if i would ever need to uninstall ubuntu would this be the right way to do it from a dual boot windows 7 with ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUgf84bdYvg
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.1/3.1.3-1ubuntu1/+build/2310554   seems one was built in March this year. Is this the same?
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: The reason being that Oneric has python3.2.  python3 is a metapackage that refers to the current version, and is what should be used as a dependency as such.  They skipped that step and depended directly, thus the problem.
[00:50] <aljosa> which ppa provides latest xorg/mesa/drivers from git master?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: ahh, that makes sense
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: thanks for clearing it up :)
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python3 vs. http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/python3
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> :)
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: as long as people can explain stuff I'm up for learning :)
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> Aaronneyer: Did you catch all of that?
[00:51] <Aaronneyer> Ya, so is there no way to get it to install 3.1 on oneiric?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> aljosa: xorg edgers. It is VERY experimental and most likely UNSTABLE. Your choice
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Aaronneyer: you could tell the maintainers to modify the deb for oneiric
[00:52] <Aaronneyer> Ok then, thanks
[00:52] <tonyyarusso> Aaronneyer: The way to do it involves individually downloading .debs for the dependencies manually (without apt), then using dpkg -i --force-depends on the one from them last.  But, that's a gross way of doing it, and it's a ridiculously trivial bug for them to fix upstream, so you should make them do that :)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: +1
[00:53] <Aaronneyer> Mmk
[00:54] <Mega^RelaX> hey. :)
[00:54] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I uninstalled & reinstalled the driver, but I'm still in the same situation; I dont have the right resolution available for my monitor. Any ideas?
[00:55] <aljosa> ActionParsnip: thanks for info
[00:55] <spinx> change them yourself
[00:56] <spinx> pastebin you xorg.conf
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: could run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings   set the res to something and click 'save to x config file' then close the app and run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and edit the file to set the res you want
[00:57] <eXpander> Are there any Ubuntu cookies?
[00:57] <spinx> exactly too the words out of my mouth ActionParsnip
[00:57] <Squarism> is there something like "compiz-config" for unity? Seems a bit simplistic this unity
[00:57] <OerHeks> all monitors have a reset option in the little buttons menu, it could solve resolution detection.
[00:59] <OerHeks> eXpander, internetbrowsers use cookies, so yes, ubuntu have them too.
[00:59] <zacarias> how do you get the available packages list from a certain repository or ppa, or from all of your installed ones, from the command line?
[01:00] <alexeyy> Guys, can you help me?
[01:00] <OphirN4545> Maybe
[01:01] <alexeyy> Im using installer script for ubuntu, but i have xubuntu. After that me desktop and app menu dosnt work, other work normal.
[01:02] <OerHeks> zacarias, none, according to > http://askubuntu.com/questions/5976/how-can-i-list-all-packages-ive-installed-from-a-particular-ppa
[01:04] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: Followed your instructions, but I don't know how to edit xorg.conf to include the desired resolution. My xorg.conf filres is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/741807/
[01:04] <alexeyy> Thnx. I fix this.
[01:04] <overdub> I'm getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" when trying to install simple packages
[01:05] <xangua> !gpgerr | overdub
[01:05] <overdub> anyone know why this might be happening, or how I can fix it?
[01:05] <djzn> anyone using the shell here?
[01:05] <Artemis3> overdub, sometimes refresh again or change mirror and it fixes itself
[01:06] <overdub> Artemis3: is there a list of alternate mirrors somewhere?
[01:08] <Artemis3> overdub, indeed, but i think its easier to use synaptic or the change sources
[01:08] <Artemis3> in system administration or something (can't recall the exact english name)
[01:09] <floydsprite> hi
[01:09] <overdub> thanks Artemis3, i'll poke around a bit
[01:10] <mluser-home> Hello, does anyone know if there is a non-gui program like gdebi, that can install a local .deb file, and pull in the dependencies from the internet?
[01:11] <brjannc> mluser-home: gdebi is actually a command line utility; the one you're used to seeing is gdebi-gtk
[01:12] <brjannc> mluser-home: so, the short answer is, yes :) gdebi <debfile>
[01:12] <mluser-home> brjannc: Thank you
[01:12] <_calum> if I ran dd if=/dev/sda of=/UbuntuBackup.img, where will the drive image be saved by default?
[01:12] <brjannc> mluser-home: sure thing
[01:12] <_calum> sorry *sda3
[01:12] <brjannc> _calum: in your root directory
[01:13] <mluser-home> _calum: to the / directory
[01:13] <taar779> Could someone help me out with an error: RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring uo eth0
[01:13] <brjannc> _calum: that's what the / is
[01:13] <_calum> oh ok, thanks
[01:13] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: Followed your instructions, but I don't know how to edit xorg.conf to include the desired resolution. My xorg.conf file as it was saved by nvidia-settings is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/741807/
[01:13] <_calum> cheers
[01:14] <brjannc> _calum: one thing to note, make sure /dev/sda3 is unmounted when you do that, otherwise your image may end up broken
[01:14] <brjannc> _calum: (or mounted read-only)
[01:14] <_calum> oh, I'm not sure I unmounted it
[01:14] <djzn> i have a small problem in gnome-shell in ubuntu...-> when I open a new window, the menu (file edit view tools about, etc) it gets a delay, loading a bit later... is this anyone experiencing this on radeon module?
[01:14] <_calum> I think its mounted as read only
[01:15] <_calum> is it read only if I had to sudo to execute dd?
[01:15] <brjannc> _calum: dd isn't smart enough to understand what to do if the filesytem changes; it's literally just copying bits. you can check if it's mounted readonly by running: mount | grep /dev/sda3
[01:16] <brjannc> _calum: no, you need to use sudo because you're accessing what's called a block device (which is what /dev/sda3 is)
[01:17] <_calum> so by default ubuntu denies a standard user write access to the filesystem?
[01:17] <brjannc> _calum: look at the end of the line, you'll see something like (rw) or (ro), possibly with some other options
[01:17] <brjannc> _calum: not exactly; /dev/sda3 refers to the actual partition itself, not the filesystem on it
[01:17] <_calum> hold on I'll just check
[01:18] <reflexrg> is there an ubuntu app to remove all facebook content?
[01:19] <OerHeks> reflexrg, "all" content of all users ?
[01:19] <_calum> it says rw. Is the backup ruined?
[01:20] <_calum> or should I cancel?
[01:20] <reflexrg> all content from you, interacting with others and others interacting with you.
[01:20] <reflexrg> me*
[01:20] <brjannc> _calum: potentially. it depends on if there's been activity on that filesystem while you've been backing it up; for safety's sake, i would say yes, it's probably not a good backup, and you should cancel it
[01:20] <reflexrg> wall posts, messages, likes, comments
[01:20] <reflexrg> all of it
[01:20] <_calum> so cancel the backup and unmount then do again?
[01:21] <reflexrg> I can only find a program called exofliate for android :(
[01:21] <yeats> reflexrg: ubuntu and facebook are not related, so no there's not an app (beyond your browser)
[01:21] <brjannc> _calum: yep, or remount it read-only. where is that partition currently mounted?
[01:21] <reflexrg> yes I know that and yes there is things beyond your browser with facebook on ubuntu
[01:22] <yeats> reflexrg: such as?
[01:22] <reflexrg> like the IM plugin and prism or whatever you call it
[01:22] <_calum> brjannc:I cannot remember exactly what the command said but it said rw something about errors-ro then /dev/sda3
[01:22] <djzn> anyone using gnome shell here?
[01:23] <brjannc> _calum: run it again, and paste the line here? mount | grep /dev/sda3
[01:23] <OphirN4545> djzn: Me. Why?
[01:23] <_calum> ok
[01:23] <reflexrg> facebook makes it a pain in the ass to delete all content I am just wondering if there is a way to delete it all with an app in ubuntu repo
[01:23] <djzn> OphirN4545: nvidia, intel or radeon
[01:23] <yeats> reflexrg: but there's not anything that manages content - just things that plug in to the facebook API
[01:23] <yeats> reflexrg: no there's not
[01:23] <reflexrg> okay
[01:23] <reflexrg> :(
[01:23] <OphirN4545> djzn: Virtual machine =/. Still, I use a Radeon
[01:23] <reflexrg> how about emulator for running andorid programs?
[01:24] <brjannc> reflexrg: this is offtopic for #ubuntu, so can I /msg you?
[01:24] <reflexrg> okay
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> reflexrg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h17txbqzjpE
[01:25] <djzn> OphirN4545: did you notice when you open a new window in shell
[01:25] <_calum> sorry it took long am on other pc, it says /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount.r,commit=0)
[01:25] <djzn> OphirN4545: there is a delay on loading up the application menu
[01:25] <djzn> OphirN4545: like "File Edit View..."
[01:25] <djzn> OphirN4545: i doesn't open instantaneously with the window... it has a lag
[01:26] <djzn> OphirN4545: like if it were using the global menu
[01:26] <brjannc> _calum: ack. unfortunately, you can't unmount that partition, because it's your root partition -- it's where your OS currently lives :) so you also can't run a backup to / because then it'd be backing it up to itself
[01:26] <OphirN4545> djzn: No.
[01:26] <_calum> I'll reinstall it. Probably messed things up
[01:27] <brjannc> _calum: nono, you should be fine, so long as you only ran the dd command you wrote earlier
[01:27] <zacktu> i just did a fresh install of 11.10 and now i'm using dpkg to reinstall packages that there there before -- i have a message with a header "lightdm" about display managers and since i've never modified the default selection or had more than one I don't know how to respond to this message -- actually, there's no option, except click OK, but is there something that I should do now?
[01:27] <brjannc> _calum: so far, you've only created a broken filesystem image; delete that, and it's like nothing ever happened
[01:28] <reflexrg> when I search for ubuntu android I don't find that app :(
[01:28] <bjrohan> Does anyone here have knowledge on wireless? When first starting my wireless, it runs fine for about an hour, then speed degrades quickly until reboot. Any suggestions?
[01:28] <bjrohan> when connected via ethernet cable, all works well for days
[01:28] <_calum> OK. I thought something was wrong because there was slow response from programs after killing the dd terminal. I shut down the pc, should be ok now?
[01:29] <brjannc> _calum: should be. it's possible you've filled up the disk, though, but that's recoverable.
[01:30] <yeats> zacktu: 11.10 uses lightdm by default - looks like you're installing gdm?  both work, btw.
[01:30] <itaylor57> reflexrg, you could run the android sdk via eclipse if you want
[01:30] <_calum> so now I delete the broken system image from the / directory?
[01:31] <yeats> bjrohan: check /var/log/syslog for any messages around the times of the slowdowns?
[01:32] <brjannc> _calum: yep -- just be very careful in what you type, and double-check it, since you're sudo rm'ing from the root directory. i'd recommend: sudo rm -i /UbuntuBackup.img
[01:32] <brjannc> _calum: the -i will prompt you for a y/n answer before removing anything, so make sure it's what you want before you hit 'y'
[01:32] <_calum> ahh right
[01:33] <luis_> hi there. I was looking for someone to help me on troubleshooting why my laptop (Presario c500) is having trouble to hibernate. It goes looking for a splash and then goes back to normal, without hibernating.
[01:33] <bjrohan> yeats - I just checked, I receive this message  a LOT in syslog = [18922.116881] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Queue 4 stuck for 2000 ms.
[01:33] <zacktu> yeats: i'll be happy to use lightdm -- how do i make it the default?  the message says to edit a file in /etc/init.d, but i've no idea which one
[01:33] <brjannc> _calum: once you've done that, you can check how much space is on the drive with: df -h | grep /dev/sda3
[01:34] <brjannc> _calum: then you should be back to normal :)
[01:34] <_calum> thanks for your help
[01:34] <yeats> zacktu: can you pastebin the full message?  I don't have enough context to advise you
[01:35] <brjannc> _calum: sure thing. if you want to try it again, you'll have to boot from a livecd, and back it up to another drive (i.e., an external drive). also:
[01:35] <brjannc> !backup | _calum
[01:35] <zacktu> yeats: remind me how to pastebin
[01:35] <bjrohan> wireless issue - in syslog I see the following quite often, and very repetitive, how do I go about remeding the situation for my wireless?
[01:35] <bjrohan> Nov 17 17:25:06 bjrohan-MM061 kernel: [18913.543269] ieee80211 phy0: Hardware restart was requested
[01:35] <bjrohan> Nov 17 17:25:14 bjrohan-MM061 kernel: [18922.116881] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Queue 4 stuck for 2000 ms.
[01:35] <FloodBot1> bjrohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <bjrohan> oops
[01:37] <_calum> OK removing the image was a success
[01:38] <yeats> !pastebin | zacktu (and bjrohan)
[01:39] <ali33> I need help with mpd, always fail to update database
[01:39] <brjannc> _calum: good deal :)
[01:39] <zacktu> yeats: paste is 741827 -- perhaps if I just say "OK" i'll have an opportunity to select the dm
[01:40] <luis_> hi there. I'll repeat my question, I'm sorry. I was looking for someone to help me on troubleshooting why my laptop (Presario c500) is having trouble to hibernate. It goes looking for a splash and then goes back to normal, without hibernating.
[01:41] <yeats> bjrohan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/621265
[01:41] <_calum> 113.9GB free space. Great, back to normal :)
[01:41] <ali33> anyone can help me with mpd? It always fails to update database
[01:41] <yeats> zacktu: answer OK
[01:43] <_calum> brb, switching chat to ubuntu laptop
[01:43] <zacktu> yeats: i answered ok and chose lightdm -- this really caught me by surprise -- thanx for your help
[01:43] <luis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/741831/
[01:43] <yeats> zacktu: sure ;-)
[01:44] <c3ll> hey guys
[01:44] <Untitled_only> sup room?
[01:44] <aeon-ltd> hello
[01:46] <luis_> any ideas, people? http://paste.ubuntu.com/741831/
[01:47] <aeon-ltd> luis_: got a swap file/partition?
[01:48] <luis_> yes aeon-ltd, the process worked just fine untill I updated to oneiric
[01:48] <bjrohan> thank you yeats, I am looking through the posts now, looking for a fix that others have used
[01:48] <bjrohan> BTW yeats, how did you find that post so quickly?
[01:48] <ahoneybun> what's up with 11.10?
[01:49] <luis_> aeon-ltd, also the size of the swap is appropiate,  haven't changed anything but the Ubuntu version.
[01:49] <_calum> I have another question, is there a way to visit http sites using encryption in Ubuntu, e.g. some ssh setup?
[01:49] <ali33> anyone can help me with mpd ????
[01:49] <luis_> tried s2disk but didn't work
[01:50] <luis_> I don't want a direct solution, maybe just a way to troubleshoot that issue.
[01:51] <aeon-ltd> ali33: describe it to the channel
[01:51] <jrib> _calum: for what purpose?
[01:51] <_calum> I'm wondering if there is a way to stop ISP from snooping on visited sites for my privacy
[01:52] <Stupendoussteve> Use tor or a vpn
[01:52] <aeon-ltd> _calum: vpn, tor, other proxies etc
[01:52] <ali33> it just fails to update music database
[01:52] <jrib> _calum: sure, use https on websites that support it.  Or connect to a different host using an encrypted connection (with for example ssh or openvpn) and then from that host, connect to the website
[01:52] <ali33> just installed mpd
[01:52] <aeon-ltd> ali33: check your config file
[01:52] <ali33> created mpd.conf already
[01:52] <ali33> I think it's ok
[01:52] <jrib> _calum: and obviously the other host is not on the same isp which you distrust
[01:53] <_calum> I can tunnel my http connections through a ssh server?
[01:53] <ali33> http://pastebin.com/F6rvGuzz
[01:53] <ali33> this is my mpd.conf
[01:53] <MusicJunkieK1> hi all, i need help here. my DVDs won't work in Ubuntu 11.10. i've installed all the restricted extras, and nothing is helping
[01:53] <aaron> can I help fix bugs for 12.04 even if I'm on 11.04
[01:53] <Stupendoussteve> _calum: yes, see ssh -D
[01:53] <aaron> ?
[01:53] <jrib> _calum: sure that means [your computer] ----> [ssh server] ----> [website].  The first arrow is encrypted, the second is not.
[01:54] <jrib> aaron: you could install 12.04 in virtualbox
[01:54] <luis__> i'm back aeon-ltd any ideas?
[01:54] <ali33> aeon-ltd, this is my mpd.conf http://pastebin.com/F6rvGuzz
[01:54] <jrib> !dvd | MusicJunkieK1
[01:54] <_calum> so I could set up a ssh on my desktop and route my laptop connections through that?
[01:54] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it?
[01:54] <MusicJunkieK1> i've already tried the codecs
[01:54] <MusicJunkieK1> i get no results
[01:55] <jrib> MusicJunkieK1: be more specific.
[01:55] <aaron> jrib, what if the bugs were in 11.04 and have not gotten fixed yet
[01:55] <justinas> Good mornin!
[01:55] <aeon-ltd> ali33: did you create a database?
[01:55] <jrib> aaron: how would you know if it's the same cause :)
[01:55] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[01:55] <tucemiux_> hey I just got a prompt about creating a passphrase for my encrypted partition, is this legit?
[01:55] <MusicJunkieK1> i mean i've reinstalled ubuntu-restricted-extras, and i've installed libdvdread4
[01:56] <justinas> I have a problem: I can get direct rendering as root (nvidia), but with my own user I can't use direct rendering.
[01:56] <ali33> aeon-ltd: what you mean ?
[01:56] <justinas> What's the matter?
[01:56] <jrib> MusicJunkieK1: well now try what ubottu's link tells you to do because it's not that
[01:56] <Stupendoussteve> tucemiux_: Yes, it is for recovery if your account is locked out
[01:56] <ali33> how to create a database ?
[01:56] <tucemiux_> Stupendoussteve, thanks, I guess the thing got updated? why would I get the prompt if I've already done this?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> ali33: could use sql or there is a database app in openoffice much like MS access
[01:57] <aaron> jrib, 11.10 is just so buggy
[01:57] <RealOpty> lucid is LTS correct?
[01:57] <aaron> RealOpty, yep
[01:57] <RealOpty> ty
[01:57] <tucemiux_> ali33, what type of database youre talking about?
[01:57] <aeon-ltd> ali33: wait actually, do all the files referenced in the config exist?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> RealOpty: next LTS is 12.04 next year :)
[01:57] <ali33> aeon-ltd, yes
[01:58] <_calum> thanks all
[01:58] <RealOpty> ActionParsnip, yeah was reading that it will be both versions for 5 years
[01:58] <RealOpty> thats a win win
[01:58] <RealOpty> (desktop + server)
[01:58] <yeats> bjrohan: I googled the error, then googled 'iwl3945 bugs ubuntu'
[01:59] <aeon-ltd> ali33: which client?
[01:59] <ali33> aeon-ltd: ncmpcpp
[01:59] <MusicJunkieK1> i have libdvdcss2 installed, ubuntu-restricted-extras, and libdvdread4. neither VLC, Totem, Brasero,or Nautilus recognize that I have a DVD in the drive. CDs are recognized
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> RealOpty: on the server, yes. Desktop for 3 years
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | MusicJunkieK1
[02:00] <luis__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/741831/
[02:00] <MusicJunkieK1> i've already done that
[02:01] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[02:03] <hitman_> me
[02:03] <hitman_> i have a probleme
[02:03] <aeon-ltd> ... go on
[02:03] <hitman_> est ce c'est possible d'installer un kernel 3.1 sur une ubuntu 10.10
[02:04] <|Slacker|> !fr
[02:04] <aeon-ltd> !french | hitman_
[02:04] <qin> hitman_: nope
[02:04] <hitman_> oki
[02:04] <RealOpty> ActionParsnip, next LTS its both for 5 years :)
[02:05] <MusicJunkieK1> guys? anybody?
[02:05] <MusicJunkieK1> DVD problem with Ubuntu 11.10, nothing is helping
[02:06] <hitman_> ----> get pack codec
[02:06] <Guest97030> join #ubuntu-fr
[02:06] <lapion> how can 2 files be exactly the same size in bytes, however differ in number of blocks .. ???
[02:06] <MusicJunkieK1> ubuntu-restricted-extras? did that
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> RealOpty: so it is, interesting
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> RealOpty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:07] <Guest97030> jjoin #botosani
[02:07] <szal> MusicJunkieK1: (1) do you have a track record of that drive working in Linux?  (2) are you sure that it is even capable of playing DVDs?
[02:07] <Guest97030> join #botosani
[02:07] <MusicJunkieK1> yeah, it's always worked until i installed 11.10
[02:07] <hitman_>     /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:08] <MusicJunkieK1> could having two DVD drives in there be causing a problem now?
[02:08] <szal> shouldn't be, possible device nodes are plenty
[02:09] <MusicJunkieK1> i've installed the codecs that i'm supposed to have installed, and nothing changes
[02:09] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[02:10] <mrmoisha> i'd suggest reinstalling or running that script for ccs or whatever it was.
[02:10] <xangua> !dvd | MusicJunkieK1
[02:10] <MestreLion> what is the equivalent terminal command for Synaptic's "download only" of packages?
[02:10] <MusicJunkieK1> yeah, i've reinstalled it a few times, actually
[02:10] <mrmoisha> They are installed... you just have to run the shell script for it.
[02:11] <MusicJunkieK1> so how would i go about doing that?
[02:11] <MestreLion> (or, in another form: i want the equivalent of apt-get source, but for the binary packages...)
[02:11] <mrmoisha> Lemme take a quick look back. I never rember how it was done.
[02:11] <mrmoisha> Be back in a quickie.
[02:11] <MusicJunkieK1> okay, thanks
[02:12] <MestreLion> ubottu: doesn't "restricted-extras" packages provided the needed codecs for DVD playing?
[02:12] <yeats> MusicJunkieK1: 'sudo apt-get download <package>'
[02:12] <MestreLion> xangua: : doesn't "restricted-extras" packages provided the needed codecs for DVD playing?
[02:12] <BlackDalek> please... I don't want to have to erase everything again and start from scratch with a fresh installation.... can anyone even give me the slightest hint as to what might be wrong? It used to work before I lost everything and did a re-install. I am totally stumped as to why I can't make video play any more.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: sudo apt-get install --download-only packagename
[02:12] <xangua> MestreLion: no
[02:12] <yeats> MusicJunkieK1: sorry meant for MestreLion
[02:13] <MusicJunkieK1> no prob
[02:13] <MestreLion> yeats: thank you! But... no way to use it as regular user, without sudo? I dont want to install, just download
[02:13] <mrmoisha__>  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[02:13] <xangua> MestreLion: MusicJunkieK1you can also install libvdvdcs2 from medibuntu repository
[02:13] <xangua> !medibuntu
[02:13] <mrmoisha__> It should already be installed since you already could play dvd's
[02:13] <yeats> MestreLion: I believe all apt-get functions have to be done as root
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: the command needs sudo as the packages go into /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: or you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and manually grab debs
[02:14] <yeats> MestreLion: actually, I was able to download without sudo
[02:14] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip / yeats : apt-get source is smart enough to download to current dir...
[02:14] <MestreLion> so no sudo needed... ill try with "--download-only
[02:15] <szal> MestreLion: building from source is an entirely different beast than handling binary pkgs
[02:15] <yeats> MestreLion: 'apt-get download' downloaded a deb to the current directory
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: you may find more in:   man apt-get    afaik, it goes to the normal place
[02:16] <MusicJunkieK1> installing libdvdcss2 from Medibuntu now
[02:16] <MestreLion> yeats: theres no "apt-get download" here (Maverick).. any package to enable it?
[02:16] <yeats> MestreLion: should just work...
[02:17] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[02:17] <MestreLion> rodrigo@desktop ~/work/command-not-found $ apt-get download
[02:17] <MestreLion> E: Invalid operation download
[02:17] <yeats> MestreLion: 'apt-get download <package>'
[02:18] <yeats> MestreLion: my test was 'apt-get download screen'
[02:18] <MusicJunkieK1> i installed the Medibuntu version, and i added Medibuntu's repo to Ubuntu
[02:18] <MestreLion> yes, i tried that too yeats... didnt work.. maybe youre using a more recent versioin of ubuntu/apt
[02:18] <MusicJunkieK1> VLC is still giving me this message:   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[02:18] <yeats> MestreLion: it's not a new function
[02:20] <MestreLion> about the DVD issue... i dont remind having any trouble watching DVDs in Lucid Lynx Netbook edition... and i didnt install any fancy packages... maybe "restricted-extras" for the codecs, and thats all...
[02:20] <Stupendoussteve> yeats: My apt-get doesn't have it either. aptitude does though
[02:20] <szal> MestreLion: as said previously.. -> 'apt-get install --download-only $package1 $package2 [...]'
[02:20] <Stupendoussteve> maybe you have an alias?
[02:20] <yeats> Stupendoussteve: nope
[02:21] <yeats> Stupendoussteve: MestreLion: however, I do have 'build-essential' installed - maybe that's what's making the difference
[02:21] <MestreLion> szal: this only works as root/sudo ... and only downloads to /var/apt/cache ... i needed a non-root version of that, that downloads to current dur, just like apt-get souce does
[02:21] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: aptitude download
[02:22] <MestreLion> yeats: nope... build-essential is here too
[02:22]  * yeats tests on a different computer...
[02:23] <yeats> MestreLion: do 'man apt-get' - does it have 'download' listed as an apt-get command/function?
[02:23] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve: aptitude is a GUI too (although text one).. is there any command option that automates the download?
[02:24] <yeats> hmm - works for me on two 11.10 installations
[02:24] <MestreLion> yeats: nope
[02:24] <yeats> Stupendoussteve: what release are you on?
[02:25] <BlackDalek> does anyone know why, when I have installed EVERYTHING suggested in the Ubuntu help pages to get video files to play, WHY does it STILL not work? I know it MUST be able to work, because I had it all working before I had to re-install my whole system. I have spent hours and days on this and come up with nothing. I don't know what else I can try :(
[02:25] <MestreLion> so thats a new apt-get command... for 11.04 / 11.10... but its not here in MAverick
[02:26] <MestreLion> $ apt-get --version
[02:26] <MestreLion> apt 0.8.3ubuntu7.2 for amd64 compiled on Sep 22 2011 16:09:49
[02:26] <OY1R> q: i cant view videos on youtube.com but i can view youtube videos on external sites ! anyone know this issue ? Im running 10.04, firefox 3.6.17.
[02:26] <MestreLion> yours is probably a more modern version, yeats
[02:26] <xangua> OY1R: tried to upgrade firefox¿
[02:27] <OY1R> no i did not
[02:27] <MestreLion> OY1R: may be flash installation... lucid does not come with flash by default.. which flash did you install?
[02:28] <MestreLion> no need to upgrade firefox.. i have 10.04 in my netbook and it plays youtube fine
[02:28] <OY1R> it worked yesterday, not today.
[02:28] <sancas> how can i disable, gedit create an file backup for example file~
[02:28] <sancas> ???
[02:28] <MestreLion> (but you should upgrade anyway... FF8 just landed on Mozilla's PPA.. and it rocks :D)
[02:29] <sancas> i dont know if you understand me
[02:29] <MestreLion> sancas: Edit  > Preferences > unckeck Backup files
[02:29] <yeats> MestreLion: looks like that was not in the man page in 10.10 but was adding in 11.04 - very interesting ;-)
[02:29] <OY1R> i did try version 6 iirc, i didnt like to so went back to 3.-
[02:29] <yeats> s/adding/added/
[02:30] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[02:30] <MestreLion> yeats: so its a new feature in 11.04
[02:30] <yeats> MestreLion: yep - weird ;-)
[02:30] <szal> !info firefox lucid | OY1R
[02:30] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: Sorry didn't see your commrnt. Aptitude can use the command line options too, only does the "gui" if you run without options
[02:30] <BlackDalek> how is it that VLC can work and no other video player on my system works?
[02:30] <MestreLion> why weird? new software sometimes have new features... i wanted this apt-get download badly :D
[02:31] <yeats> MestreLion: I understand that.  I just didn't realize it wasn't a feature before
[02:31] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve: and is aptitude the only way for a non-root user to download a given binary package by name ? (besides manually going to a website, i mean) ?
[02:32] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: Sounds like, unless you upgrade apt-get
[02:32] <szal> BlackDalek: VLC brings its own codecs
[02:33] <MestreLion> and is there any way to upgrade apt-get "cleanly", without messing the system?
[02:33] <OY1R> MestreLion, i have version 10,3,181,14
[02:34] <MestreLion> BlackDalek: VLC is the most powerful player, it comes with its own codecs for most (if not all) video formats. It doesn't mean its better than totem.. for me, vrmb and DVD videos are choppy in VLC and play great in totem / gmplayer
[02:34] <subsume> How to I make a currently running TMPFS bigger?
[02:34] <lyrae> Anyone know how to delete multiple files with the ftp command?
[02:34] <lyrae> recursively
[02:34] <subsume> lyrae i dun think you can
[02:35] <subsume> lyrae its up to the client to do that
[02:35] <lyrae> i see. thank you
[02:35] <MestreLion> ftp is a client
[02:35] <subsume> right
[02:35] <BlackDalek> Then how can all other players not work when I have all the codecs installed as suggested on the ubuntu help pages? It is only XVID and MP3 audio.....?
[02:35] <subsume> but more advanced clients will do things like recursive delete
[02:35] <no-name-> can you use gconf editor to tell a certain app to always open maximised?
[02:36] <MestreLion> no-name-: im not sure... but you can use compiz settings for that
[02:36] <ygor> Hello guys, im brazilian so i dont know if anyone here can help me in this particular problem. i want t know how to emulate an fiscal printer to test a software. im trying to do this by following a tutorial but theres an error and i just cant make it work. does anyone know about socat?
[02:36] <MestreLion> ola ygor... sou brasileito tb... se quiser, me manda uma mensagem privada
[02:37] <MestreLion> mas eu nao entendo nada de emulacao de impressoras :P
[02:38] <OY1R> external(that is youtube videos NOT on youtube) play good while the same video on youtube.com wont play
[02:38] <BlackDalek> Hi. Video files (avi, video codec XVID MPEG-4, audio codec MPEG 1 Audio, Layer 3) play like a choppy slide show and I get no audio in Totem Movie Player. What could be causing this? How do I fix it? VLC plays perfectly but I can't use my remote with VLC and I want to be able to use my remote. Help!
[02:39] <lyrae> remember in older gnome, under "places" on top, you could connect to a remove machine? where is that option now?
[02:40] <yeats> lyrae: open nautilus and do File -> Connect to Server...
[02:40] <MestreLion> lyrae: as subsume said, ftp command is a "raw" ftp client... it just allows you to use the commands that are in the FTP protocol, and there is no such command for recursive delete. BUT... you could either script it to get the list of files and delete them (like GUI clients do), OR you could use an ftp client that has a command-line argument that does that (i dont know any)
[02:40] <Wisnia> hi , does anybody know how to change startup sound?
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[02:41] <subsume> I tried to change the size of my tmpfs but now i see both sizes: tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,size=100m,size=250M)
[02:41] <subsume> what's the deal?
[02:41] <MestreLion> yeats: nice approach... using nautilus to mount the ftp site and you can use "rm -rf" to recursively delete :D
[02:41] <ygor> Im trying to use a fiscal printer , but i need to emulate it, and im using stoq software...does anyone know it?
[02:41] <Wisnia> does anybody know how to change login sound?
[02:41] <lyrae> yeats, , and how do i play a shortcut in desktop?
[02:42] <yeats> lyrae: I'm not sure what you mean
[02:42] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve:  and is there any way to upgrade apt-get "cleanly", without messing the system?
[02:42] <BlackDalek> this is hopeless. there is obviously no solution and I am going to have to start again from scratch with a fresh install..... and hopefully whatever got #$@%ed up on my system won't happen again this time >:(
[02:42] <lyrae> yeats, if i'd like to create a folder on the desktop that connects to such remote machine when opened
[02:42] <worrow> hey all
[02:42] <lyrae> yeats, instead of having to go to file in nautilus each time
[02:43] <worrow> looking for some direction here
[02:43] <lyrae> have it bookmarked somewhere..
[02:43] <worrow> anyone familiar with peppermint os two
[02:43] <yeats> lyrae: oh - I see.  I'm not sure, actually - I haven't needed to do that in Unity/Gnome3
[02:43] <lyrae> hmm
[02:43] <lyrae> well thank anyway =)
[02:44] <worrow> no peppermint users?
[02:44] <aeon-ltd> worrow: ubuntu only
[02:45] <szal> worrow: this channel supports Ubuntu and its official (as in: released by Canonical) variants, and nothing else
[02:45] <worrow> crap. nobody is around int he peppermint service to give some aid
[02:45] <szal> worrow: not our problem
[02:45] <worrow> Hey dude go F yourself. I am being kind lookign for help
[02:46] <worrow> I don't go walking around pushing people
[02:46] <aeon-ltd> worrow: if it isn't directly peppermint related but application related you can ask in their respective channels
[02:46] <xangua> worrow: drop that attitude and language
[02:46] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: it can be, but mixing versions is generally not a good idea. aptitude does the job and is better than apt-get anyway
[02:46] <worrow> lol. You are all snooty in here
[02:46] <worrow> not very friendly
[02:46] <worrow> szal is the one being rude by saying "not our problem"
[02:47] <OY1R> worrow, dont mention peppermint, just ask the question since peppermint is based on Ubuntu, it ought to work on peppermint aswell.
[02:47] <aeon-ltd> worrow: heh heh heh alright, what is the problem?
[02:47] <Wisnia> i need to change startup sound , any ideas?
[02:47] <Resistance> OY1R:  isnt peppermint using Linux Mint?
[02:47] <worrow> good attitude guys keep it up. Next time I see someone about to cross the street infront of an oncoming car I'll just turn and walk away and say "not my problem"
[02:47] <yeats> !derivatives
[02:47] <Resistance> !mint
[02:47] <Resistance> fwiw ;P
[02:48] <OY1R> Resistance, not according to wikipedia
[02:48] <Resistance> OY1R:  wikipedia isnt trustworthy
[02:48] <worrow> Just an update but Peppermint is a derivative of Ubuntu
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> worrow: STOP BEING A DICK AND JUST TELL THE CHANNEL THE PROBLEM!
[02:48] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve:  ok, thank you. ill try to look the manual for the arguments for the download (and alias it to apt-get download ;)"
[02:48] <Resistance> !attitude | aeon-ltd
[02:48] <pangolin> aeon-ltd: drop the caps
[02:48] <Resistance> and
[02:48] <Resistance> !language | aeon-ltd
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> pangolin: sorry, no other way to shout online
[02:48] <worrow> I'm trying to figure out where the option is to remove the flair in the system
[02:48] <worrow> speedup
[02:49] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: It's literally aptitude download packagename
[02:49] <pangolin> aeon-ltd: don't shout in that case
[02:49] <aeon-ltd> worrow: use a different application set
[02:49] <worrow> I'm just unsure what application set will work in Pep
[02:49] <blackshirt> or apt-get -d install package-name for only download and not install them
[02:49] <worrow> also trying to get my pep to autologin as it does not come as a standard option on install.
[02:49] <szal> blackshirt: we've had that already
[02:50] <Stupendoussteve> blackshirt: Doesn't work as non-root, aptitude does
[02:50] <yeats> worrow: that's exactly the kind of issue we *can't* support here because it's a different distro ;-)
[02:50] <aeon-ltd> worrow: anything goes, as long as the package manager can search for dependancies you can mix and match anything
[02:50] <blackshirt> Stupendoussteve: yeah, you must use sudo / su
[02:50] <aeon-ltd> worrow: use a different session/login manager that does support it, gdm does
[02:50] <worrow> Don't get me wrong here, Ubuntu is amazing. But it has become too bloated
[02:51] <worrow> I get xsession error when switching to ubuntu login
[02:51] <jaberwoki> whasup peeps
[02:51] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve: wow, THAT simple? :D
[02:51] <jaberwoki> i need some help
[02:51] <aeon-ltd> jaberwoki: ask away don't ask to ask
[02:51] <blackshirt> worrow: jaberwoki: just ask what you want to ask ?
[02:52] <jaberwoki> I have the Radeon HD 6990 and I'm trying to do the three monitors. Every time I click apply the settings dont take effect through the AMD activated driver menu catalyst
[02:52] <jaberwoki> I'm in 11.10 x64
[02:52] <Stupendoussteve> MestreLion: It will deliver the .deb into your current directory. I'm not sure if it will also download the dependancies
[02:52] <worrow> I did, I want less jazz to increase performance. Login session won't let me get into ubuntu session without xsession error and backtracking. I can't autologon as it is accessible to change only from root
[02:53] <jaberwoki> what should I do? Is it a bug?
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> worrow: aren't you root?
[02:54] <jaberwoki> I did some google foo and couldn't find anything
[02:54] <worrow> yes, but when i go into the file to change it for autologin it won't let me save
[02:54] <worrow> whats the best session manager and logon manager across the board
[02:55] <somsip> worrow: I use a minimal install of unbuntu64 and slim login manager. Not bloated. Fast.
[02:55] <worrow> currently using gnome 2 and x11 session managers
[02:56] <worrow> I like speed  booting
[02:56] <MestreLion> worrow... i'll try to say this politely: since Peppermint OS is an Ubuntu derivative, many of its features and issues are common to Ubuntu. But not all questions are. And yours, in particular, is in about something that Pepper does it in a completely different way than Ubuntu. So don't call us "snooty", its just that this is a pepper-only issue that ubuntu users can't help, because it works differently there.
[02:56] <worrow> shutdown is around 4 seconds
[02:56] <aeon-ltd> worrow: how many seconds so far?
[02:56] <worrow> boot is about 20 seconds
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> somsip: minimal install is sweet :)
[02:56] <somsip> worrow: I can't say I sit and watch it. About 9 secs I think
[02:56] <jaberwoki> anyone?
[02:57] <somsip> ActionParsnip: yeah - avoids the cruft that goes with the standard install. No gnome here. What is unity again...?
[02:57] <worrow> 9 second boot?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> somsip: boom, install LXDE (with no recommends) and you got a slick OS which is teeny tiny
[02:58] <somsip> ActionParsnip: yup - min install, apt-get install awesome. that was me done.
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> worrow: xpud is 3 seconds here
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> somsip: like it
[02:58] <MestreLion> Stupendoussteve: deb only is fine... i dont want to install it, just take a look at the installed files. its a package that is already installed here, but i want to know what exactly it changed in my system (its the command-not-found package, btw)
[02:58] <weiyang> hi, does someone know the server comply with the DMI specification?
[02:58] <worrow> xpud, whats it got packed in it?
[02:58] <jaberwoki> The MoBo is the Asus Sabertooth 990FX with the AMD 1100T CPU
[02:58] <worrow> software manager?
[02:58] <worrow> I have to watch what I use as I have old system
[02:58] <somsip> worrow: yes - minimal really is minimal. I did have 7 second on Arch but couldn't get full hardware support. But it's moot. I get a cup of coffee while booting. that takes longer than the boot
[02:58] <jaberwoki> 16GBs of mem
[02:58] <MestreLion> worrow: how many times a day you boot your machine for its time to bew of any relevance?
[02:58] <jaberwoki> and a naked woman spreading eagle
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> worrow: no it uses pud files you add to the system and they are loaded at boot, you can make them with a bit of effort from ubuntu debs
[02:59] <jaberwoki> lol
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> worrow: its not a debian based OS, that'd bog it down
[02:59] <jaberwoki> I'll be patient its all good peeps
[02:59] <worrow> I need something that is quick all around on an older system with 512MB ram and 1.8GHz
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> worrow: its mainly for those wanting a browser, a chat client and a text editor pretty much
[03:00] <zus> how can i resolve this Err http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release?
[03:00] <worrow> But also need to be able to control whats booted at start
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> worrow: lubuntu is sleek as is tinycore and puppy
[03:00] <somsip> worrow: aplogies. dmesg tells me I was up in 12 secs
[03:00] <MestreLion> worrow: go XFCE or Flushbox if you care about lightweight, fast deskops... or go Puppy Linux...
[03:00] <worrow> I need music, net, email and vlc
[03:00] <worrow> maybe a game or cards
[03:01] <StrangeCharm> how can i install all the restricted codecs at once? i hate trying to play a movie during a flight and finding out that i don't have the right codec
[03:01] <szal> people, you might wanna move the distro choice discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> zus: what is the line for it in:  sudo apt-get update
[03:01] <jaberwoki> worrow: What about Mint?
[03:01] <MestreLion> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS comes to mind... its blazing fast.... and stable... and has VLC in repos
[03:01] <xangua> StrangeCharm: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> StrangeCharm: install w32codecs from medibuntu repo as well as ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc and gnome-mplayer
[03:01] <worrow> I tried Ubuntu 11.10 all derivatives, macpup, peppermint, can't install Mint and many others. Only certain OS's will recognize boot disc
[03:02] <worrow> I wanted mint trust me
[03:02] <zus> ActionParsnip,  the  line  before it is Ign http://linux.dropbox.com oneiric InRelease
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> zus: is that it?
[03:02] <worrow> is tinycore a pain to install?
[03:02] <MestreLion> StrangeCharm: Linux Mint comes with alll the codecs you might want...
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> worrow: its pretty easy
[03:03] <worrow> do you know if DSL is shutting the door?
[03:03] <urlin2u> worrow, you have a gpt setup?
[03:03] <zus> before the  first error  is this, Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric InRelease
[03:03] <zus> Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release.gpg [72 B]
[03:03] <zus> Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release
[03:03] <zus> Ign http://linux.dropbox.com oneiric InRelease
[03:03] <zus> Err http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release
[03:03] <FloodBot1> zus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <worrow> lol gpt setup?
[03:03] <worrow> I'm coming off of mac
[03:03] <zus> didnt count on the spacing sorry
[03:04] <urlin2u> worrow, I just signed on if you mentioned that I don't have that info, so lol at you. :D
[03:05] <worrow> signed on to what?
[03:05] <as> can I use ubuntu for commercial use (ex office use)
[03:05] <urlin2u> worrow, this channel.
[03:05] <jaberwoki> so, to get three monitors to work with 11.10 and the AMD 6990 is there anything special I need to do since the settings wont take effect?
[03:05] <worrow> whats that got to do with anything?
[03:05] <jaberwoki> every time i click apply it just closes
[03:05] <jaberwoki> that's why I'm here
[03:06] <MestreLion> as: sure you can... Ubuntu is as a FREE OS... "free" meaning you have the FREEDOM to use it for whatever you want
[03:06] <jaberwoki> help?
[03:06] <urlin2u> worrow, I guess you have no abilty to self reflect so i will leave it at that.
[03:06] <worrow> I just want an os that will make this laptop scream start to finish
[03:06] <jaberwoki> sudo apt-get install help-jaberwoki-plz
[03:06] <aeon-ltd> worrow: arch
[03:06] <as> MestreLion, Thank you
[03:06] <worrow> urlin2u: whats in the past is in the past
[03:06] <MestreLion> jaberwoki: you actually own an 6990 ???
[03:06] <worrow> arch install tried
[03:07] <worrow> failed
[03:07] <somsip> worrow: use minimal install and just add what you need
[03:07] <jaberwoki> :-D
[03:07] <aeon-ltd> worrow: ubuntu-server or any 'base' OS
[03:07] <worrow> I need to download a minimal install cd though right?
[03:07] <MestreLion> as: Ubuntu (and Linux in general) is "free" as in freedom, not (only) as in free beer
[03:07] <somsip> worrow: min install iso, yes
[03:07] <MestreLion> jaberwoki: man, i so envy you! :D
[03:07] <worrow> how is tiny core to work with?
[03:08] <as> thanks again.
[03:08] <as> Bye.
[03:08] <quixotedon> morning world
[03:08] <worrow> I liked Bodhi but not the annoyance of desktop setup
[03:09] <zus> worrow,  have you tried xubuntu or even Arch w/XFCE ?
[03:09] <propus> witch is the best way to mount a disc over the local network??
[03:10] <worrow> tried both. I actually tried xubuntu last night and it locked up and screwed my dual boot I already had,
[03:10] <worrow> I was trying to triple boot last night
[03:10] <StrangeCharm> ActionParsnip, where does the medibuntu repo live?
[03:12] <urlin2u> StrangeCharm, probably in /etc/apt/sourecs.list.d depends on how you added it.
[03:12] <worrow> What I want most is to create a hackintosh.
[03:12] <worrow> But too annoying to have to go buy a specific laptop for
[03:12] <MestreLion> propus: easiest way, in my opinion, is to open nautilus, browse the local network and double-click the one you want
[03:13] <worrow> i'm out. I'll harass you all later
[03:13] <worrow> thanks for all the direction on OS's
[03:13] <OldParr> if ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso does not boots in qemu because of hardware, is there possibility it boots on the host?
[03:14] <urlin2u> OldParr, do you know why it would not boot what were the symptoms?
[03:14] <propus> MestreLion: okey... but i have a server that i run as a ftp and i want to mount some of my storage discs to the ftp server so that all ftp users can access them..
[03:14] <MestreLion> OldParr: trying in VirtualBox is not an option?
[03:15] <OldParr> urlin2u: it says it finds a i686 and it needs an x86-64
[03:15] <MestreLion> propus: oh, so you want your server to access your local folders... are the local folders shared already?
[03:15] <urlin2u> OldParr, is the computer 64 bit?
[03:15] <propus> MestreLion: yes.
[03:15] <StrangeCharm> urlin2u, i didn't, which is why i want to know where it comes from
[03:15] <MestreLion> urlin2u: he's using QEMU... and it emultes a 32bit machine by default
[03:15] <StrangeCharm> [so that i can acquire it]
[03:16] <OldParr> urlin2u: how do i know if it is a 64 bit computer?
[03:16] <urlin2u> MestreLion, ah I didn't know that thanks.
[03:16] <MestreLion> OldParr: are you sure the host will be 64-bit CPU ?
[03:17] <MestreLion> OldParr: are you talking about qemu or the phisical host?
[03:18] <OldParr> MestreLion: i do not know how many bits is the host
[03:19] <OldParr> how do i know how many bits is the host?
[03:19] <MestreLion> do you know its CPU ? Brand / model / year?
[03:20] <urlin2u> StrangeCharm, depends did you find it there or in /etc/apt/sources.list I spelled sources incorrect the first time.
[03:21] <MestreLion> OldParr: any modern computer sold in the last 3 (5?) years from now is 64-bit capable.. exception are netbooks and some laptops
[03:21] <urlin2u> StrangeCharm, ah the repo live I understand now.
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> OldParr: what is the output of:  cat /proc/cpuinfo   pastebin the output please and we can tell you
[03:22] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: that will say about his current computer's cpu...
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: yes, I thought that was what was required...
[03:23] <OldParr> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/741873/
[03:23] <MestreLion> he wants to install ubuntu in a computer... but he didnt say if he wants to install in HIS compter or perhaps in a friend's
[03:23] <devkorcvince> I'm currently upgrading my 11.04 -> 11.10 hoping that it will finish smoothly...
[03:24] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, any paticular reason for telling us?
[03:25] <devkorcvince> urlin2u: cause someone might stop cause of upgrade bugs... so I can click cancel
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> OldParr: yep, 64bit CPU
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> OldParr: 2.1Ghz
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> OldParr: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Sempron%2064%20LE-1200%20-%20SDH1200IAA4DE%20%28SDH1200DEBOX%29.html
[03:26] <MestreLion>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Sempron_microprocessors#.22Sparta.22_.28Socket_AM2.2C_Energy_Efficient.2C_G1_.26_G2.2C_65_nm.29
[03:26] <MestreLion> OldParr: it is 64-bit capable:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Sempron_microprocessors#.22Sparta.22_.28Socket_AM2.2C_Energy_Efficient.2C_G1_.26_G2.2C_65_nm.29
[03:26] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, last thing you want to do is hit cancel in the middle of a distro upgrade if I understand you here.
[03:27] <MestreLion> but, OldParr, may i give you a suggestion?
[03:27] <OldParr> MestreLion: speak
[03:28] <devkorcvince> urlin2u: yap if someone will stop me cause its a bad idea to upgrade i will hit cancel...
[03:28] <MestreLion> that one is quite an old, simple CPU... you wont benefit that much with a 64 bit OS... maybe a 32 one will run faster and lighter
[03:28] <Howardly> I am not sure if i can get help here but does any one no about packet loss??
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Howardly: some
[03:29] <OldParr> MestreLion: i thought that a marriage between hardware and software was good
[03:29] <MestreLion> 64-bit OSes are recommended for modern machines, with more than 4GB of RAM, and which will run a lot of processor-intensive tasks (like video/audio encoding, scientific processing, etc), which i assume is not the case with a Sempron CPU machine
[03:29] <devkorcvince> urlin2u: I'm still on Step 3 Getting the new packages its safe to hit cancel
[03:29] <Howardly> I am trying to figure out why i am having packet loss
[03:30] <Howardly> may just be comcast?
[03:30] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, theoretically yes but your system has been changed with the new sources list, why do you want to?
[03:31] <MestreLion> it is, OldParr, but all 64-bit machines can run 32-bits apps just fine... and 32-bit software has smaller memory usage,  hdd size, etc... its more suited for older machines
[03:31] <Howardly> run damn small linux
[03:31] <jocker> check
[03:32] <jocker> hl
[03:32] <jocker> lj
[03:32] <OldParr> MestreLion: 1 GB is too little ram for 64 bits?
[03:32] <jocker> yeaah
[03:32] <MestreLion> a Sempron is a light CPU, meant for basic tasks like web browsing and word processing... you wont see any advantage in a 64-bit OS
[03:32] <jocker> using 4 GB
[03:33] <devkorcvince> urlin2u: I'm just scared to upgrade it might break... so i need an advice from the community...
[03:33] <zus> ok after waiting  for a while i still get the same  errors only now in a different place, however its all still the same, ...   http://pastebin.com/uWmJvSY9
[03:33] <MestreLion> OldParr: it is if you deviate too much from very basic web surfing, mp3 listening and word processing
[03:34] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, you wont really get that advice hear to many variables, I doubt you will have a problem though the OS is designed to upgrade.
[03:34] <OldParr> MestreLion: my deviation is only running virtual machines to test linux cd's
[03:35] <okaykid> ok
[03:35] <MestreLion> running VM's with 1GB RAM is begging to suffer :P
[03:35] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, best way in the future to avoid any problems in the future though s to clone the OS before upgrading.
[03:35] <urlin2u> is*
[03:35] <OldParr> MestreLion: yes you are wright
[03:36] <Jonii> How does autologin work?
[03:36] <MestreLion> i just upgraded from 4GB to 8GB to be able to run win XP comfortably
[03:36] <okaykid> where can i buy a cheap GPS?
[03:36] <Q4> sooo, does anyone know a way a visual designer can contribute to some open-source project
[03:37] <devkorcvince> urlin2u: ya experience on ubuntu in every release I need to fresh install everything...
[03:37] <MestreLion> OldParr: specially with a Sempron CPU... it is sngle-core,single thread CPU..  VM's surely crawl there
[03:37] <TexasRussian> So, I'm downloading the new OpenSUSE, any tips for using a RPM based distro?
[03:37] <ssfdre38> im trying to install the source code of php myself and its saying i need xml2-config but i have libxml2 and xml2 installed. do you know how i can find out
[03:37] <OldParr> MestreLion: yes you are wright
[03:37] <Da|Mummy> how do i check if im using pulseaudio or alsa/oss?
[03:37] <okaykid> ask his phone number and call him
[03:38] <okaykid> instead of waisting time on here texting back and forth
[03:38] <satalha_> hey #ubuntu
[03:38] <MestreLion> Q4: in MANY ways... specially GUI design... most open-source projets lack decent user interfaces
[03:38] <satalha_> I just wanted to let you guys know, version 11.10 sucks and unity was a bad decision
[03:38] <urlin2u> devkorcvince, all the third party sources are turned off, and the drivers like grapahic ones don't follow the upgrade.
[03:38] <Da|Mummy> satalha_, try xubuntu or kubuntu if you dont like unity
[03:38] <Da|Mummy> or just disable unity at startup
[03:38] <MestreLion> Da|Mummy: app or OS-wide?
[03:39] <satalha_> Da|Mummy: too late, i already switched to arch linux :(
[03:39] <OldParr> MestreLion: if i could reuse all the ram i have buyed in my life my conputer should have 8 GB wright now
[03:39] <dadis> Hey, first person to ask a question get's free tech support
[03:39] <dadis> satalha_: come on over to #archlinux-offtopic
[03:39] <Da|Mummy> MestreLion, OS i guess, perhaps wine, but i think OS
[03:39] <HippyNerd> Im having trouble installing. I've tried USB drive, and CD, but this computer doesnt seem to want to boot the install media.
[03:39] <Q4> MestreLion: I know, but for my googling efforts all I came up with has been pages on pages of whine about designers not contributing
[03:40] <MestreLion> Da|Mummy: Ubuntu by default uses PulseAudio... but some apps can be configured to bypass it and use ALSA directly
[03:40] <dadis> HippyNerd: smoke a bowl and relax. match th md5 sum on your boot media with the offical md5
[03:40] <dadis> and then try again
[03:40] <satalha_> I already tried ubuntu 2d which did nothing for my computer and actually made it slower
[03:40] <Hilikus> i was updating to 11.10 in my server on the console and i was asked if i wanted to replace a config file or leave the old one. i chose to open a terminal to investigate and when i did that the console crashed. the update was interrupted in the middle and now when i do do-release-upgrade it says there's nothing to do, apt-get upgrade says it can't lock dpkg because the resource is unvailable. what should i do to resume th update??
[03:40] <satalha_> if I'm not mistaken
[03:40] <askhader> Whose amazing idea was it to drop Gnome?
[03:40] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, you try anything but the install media first in the bios?
[03:40] <satalha_> askhader: seriously
[03:40] <Q4> there was literally just 1 project that had an opening for a designer
[03:40] <Da|Mummy> MestreLion, how do i disable pulse alltogether and just default to ALSA
[03:40] <xangua> askhader: unity runs on top of gnome, ubuntu oneiric uses gnome 3.2
[03:41] <askhader> Oh so they just piled more bloatware on top, gotcha.
[03:41] <satalha_> askhader: do I know you? I was just thinking that myself!
[03:41] <Da|Mummy> if you want to avoid bloatware, ubuntu isnt what youre looking for
[03:41] <MestreLion> Da|Mummy: you don't want that, trust me... ALSA is single-app .. so you can't listen to music AND other stuff at the same time
[03:41] <HippyNerd> urlin2u, the system runs on the old system on old disk.
[03:41] <HippyNerd> Im using it right now.
[03:42] <Da|Mummy> MestreLion, can i enable it for wine only? skyrim to be exact
[03:42] <Da|Mummy> pulseaudio easts away at cpu
[03:42] <MestreLion> Q4: Emesene coud use a hand... its an amazing MSN clone... but currently lacks a good designer
[03:42] <zus> can any one  help with these gpg errors...   http://pastebin.com/uWmJvSY9
[03:42] <brjannc> MestreLion: not true, if the card supports hardware mixing, alsa supports it too; if not, the alsa-dmix plugin can
[03:42] <HippyNerd> urlin2u,  but the new disk isnt bootable yet. when booting to usb, it says boot error.
[03:43] <MestreLion> Q4: also, default themes, fonts, icons are always welcome... most out-of-the-box themes in Ubuntu are poor (in my opinio)
[03:43] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, right did you with the cd or usb try anything more then having them first in the bios or even that you have left out the details here.
[03:43] <Matisse> hi
[03:43] <xangua> !gpgerr | zus
[03:43] <ssfdre38> what is the devl of xml2
[03:43] <danes> hello, I need some help over here. I installed a program (do not remember which) to play midi files and now each time I restart the computer gets stuck and Ubuntu does not start. I am using a live cd. How can I fix my distribution?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> zus: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 87538FEDDF8063EB
[03:43] <MestreLion> Da|Mummy: wine uses ALSA by default, i guess... you may check with #wine
[03:43] <HippyNerd> urlin2u, oh, yes, I set the priority to usb, cd, new disk, old disk.
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> zus: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 54422A4B98AB5139
[03:44] <Q4> well, my issue is that I have been away from any real coding for so long that I'm gonna need front-end devs to implement my designs
[03:44] <MestreLion> brjannc: didnt know that, thanks
[03:44] <TexasRussian> So, I'm downloading the new OpenSUSE, any tips for using a RPM based distro?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> zus: zus sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192
[03:44] <brjannc> MestreLion: sure thing
[03:44] <xangua> TexasRussian: ask on open suse channel
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> TexasRussian: suse isn't supported here
[03:44] <Matisse> if i have a normal stereo mp3 or wave file, how will the playback sound on a correct X.1 system? Do I only hear something on left and right or also on subwoofer or the other ones?
[03:44] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, and thats all you didn't try hitting f12 say for a boot from menu or investigate that key prompt option?
[03:44] <TexasRussian> lol sorry
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> zus: if you add PPAs with add-apt-repository, that is all managed for you
[03:45] <HippyNerd> I dont know if this bios has the boot menu thing, it does have a place where you can setup boot preferences.
[03:45] <Matisse> TexasRussian, tips? use zypper instead of apt-get
[03:45] <MestreLion> danes: are you using a live-cd with persistency ?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> zus: also the virtualbox how to gave a command on how to import its key
[03:45] <brjannc> Matisse: that really depends on your crossover :)
[03:45] <TexasRussian> Thanks matisse :)
[03:45] <danes> MestreLion: nope
[03:45] <MestreLion> TexasRussian: sure... folks at #opensuse have many hints :D
[03:45] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, I'm talking about a out of the bios boot from menu you may not be aware of this option.
[03:46] <Matisse> brjannc, what would be the correct version? gods 5.1 e.g. :)
[03:46] <HippyNerd> it tries to boot usb, but stops and says "boot error", when trying to boot cd, it spins up the disk, but then boots from hdd
[03:46] <Hilikus> what can i do if my distro update got interrupted? how can i resume it?
[03:46] <zus> ActionParsnip,  the VB one was no problem till just  the  last update...
[03:46] <MestreLion> danes: if its a live-cd, without persistency, you can not actually "install" or "fix" anything.. everytime you boot you have a completely fresh OS
[03:46] <zus> lemme see if these are resolved.. thanks  ActionParsnip  and xangua
[03:46] <HippyNerd> bios boot? is this an ubuntu software thing, or do you mean the bios software the comes with the motherboard?
[03:47] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: its hard to tell if this is an Ubuntu or a BIOS issue. HAve you tried to boot any other non-Ubuntu boot media to test if your BIOS can boots CDs correctly?
[03:48] <MestreLion> Hilikus: define "interrupted' :P
[03:48] <brjannc> Matisse: Well, what I'm saying is that it's more-or-less hardware (e.g. your amplifier) dependent, and I don't think OS sound settings affect it -- I could be wrong there though
[03:48] <zus> alright i still get the same  tihng  i give  up some thing  is not right and  its really  getting me mad, im walking away for a bit
[03:48] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, try the disc or usb on another computer to confirm whether either work, then start with f12 tapping it at powering on like you were trying to get to the bios, if it does not work with a validated cd or usb look on the web for the correct key or keys for this out of the bios boot menu
[03:48] <brjannc> Matisse: to be clear, by hardware amplifier, I mean the amp connected to your speakers -- not your computer's hardware
[03:48] <HippyNerd> I have not tried any other install media on this computer.
[03:48] <Hilikus> MestreLion: i was asked if i wanted to overwrite or keep a file that changed, i said i wanted to get a console to inspect, which is one of the options, and once there the console crashed so i was kicked out of the update
[03:49] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: do you have any non-ubuntu install media to test? maybe a windows install CD? That could rule out your bios config
[03:49] <HippyNerd> urlin2u, I can get into the bios, if thats what you are talking about,.
[03:50] <MestreLion> Hilikus: but do you sill have full access to the OS? is it responding?
[03:50] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, I dont have any other install media, except for my mac...
[03:50] <XGaryG> I am trying to sync TomBoy notes.
[03:50] <Hilikus> MestreLion: yes, i'm still logged in, its just that the upgrade process crashed
[03:50] <Matisse> brjannc, is there no correct way to attach?
[03:50] <yagoo> HippyNerd, do you have legacy usb enabled in the bios?
[03:51] <MestreLion> Hilikus: try upgrading again... it mayresume downloading / instaling the packages that it need
[03:51] <HippyNerd> I do have a running ubuntu system on this computer, is there a way I can install from the system that is currently running ubuntu 11-4
[03:51] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: are you trying USB or CD ?
[03:51] <danes> MestreLion, thanks for your help. I understand that I cannot save anything using a live cd. What I want to know is if I can fix the system files in my hard drive to be able to boot up ubunutu again
[03:51] <Matisse> brjannc, but, actually, Im not interested in the sound. Which signals does the computer send? Left, right, and something else?
[03:51] <Hilikus> MestreLion: no, it says no new release found
[03:51] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, I'm not and I explained real clearly, try reading the posta and imagine on a planet far far away a whole other boot from menu having nothing to do with the bios that is prompted by key prompts at powering on the computer LIKE the bios but not actually the bios.
[03:51] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, tried both, both failed.
[03:51] <urlin2u> posts*
[03:51] <danes> MestreLion, using the live cd
[03:52] <XGaryG> When I try to sync them, it says it failed, but has no details.
[03:52] <luis_> Running Ubuntu 11.04 on a HP Pavilion g4-1229dx  wireless card can see networks and when I put in the pass phrase for our home network it comes back Bad Password. I know irt is correct as I'm using it on the computer I am on now. any sugesstions
[03:52] <MestreLion> ohhh, now i understood danes... i don't know man... it depends a lot on how damaged it is, and why it doesnt boot anymore, and how tech savvy you are. sometimes a grub re-install will do it
[03:52] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, well, usb failed, cd spun up, but it booted up from the hdd.
[03:52] <brjannc> Matisse: depends on your computer's outputs. some have multiple outputs for multiple channels, others have just stereo output, and relies on the amplifier to route the sounds to the right places. but we're getting a bit beyond the scope of #ubuntu :)
[03:53] <danes> MestreLion, its not grub. I am pretty sure
[03:53] <MestreLion> Hilikus: try the update manager... it will pull the necessary packages
[03:53] <Matisse> brjannc, so, then what would the software output be if there are enough outputs on the computer
[03:54] <Hilikus> MestreLion: this is ubuntu server, there's no GDM
[03:54] <danes> or is it possible to use terminal to access my hdd where my ubuntu ditribution is installed to uninstall packages?
[03:54] <worrow> quick question again. How do I remove programs from the start-up folder as root?
[03:54] <worrow> not sure what the command is to remove it
[03:54] <Matisse> brjannc, it is a pre-question because i need to decide if I can go back to alsa without loosing my multichannel functionality
[03:54] <XGaryG> Where would I start looking for the problem?
[03:54] <worrow> remove but not uninstall
[03:54] <HippyNerd> yagoo, I didnt see that, but I can reboot and look for it in the bios.
[03:55] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: its hard for us to tell if your bios is already set up to boot from CD or not. every computer is different in this regard. Some require you to change settings to allow a CD boot.. some require a key to be pressed at boot time for boot device options... and key may be DEL, or F2, or F12... it really depends on your computer brand / model
[03:55] <brjannc> Matisse: well, for example, the laptop i'm on now has digital stereo and analog stereo outputs; under the pulseaudio sound preferences, i can select e.g. "analog duplex output" or "analog input, digital output" etc.
[03:55] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, if your addressing me what I describe has nothing to do with the bios.
[03:55] <MestreLion> Hilikus: are you trying to upgrade a server via apt-get distro-upgrade????
[03:55] <tronji> hola
[03:56] <Hilikus> MestreLion: no, do-release-upgrade
[03:56] <brjannc> Matisse: I would guess that cards with multi-channel output would have multi-channel options. however, I think what you're asking is, can 2 channel stereo carry multi-channel (e.g. 5.1, 7.1 surround) signals? the answer is yes, because the amplifier decodes it
[03:56] <luis_> Any Thoughts?
[03:57] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, yeah, I understand, as far as I can tell from looking about the bios, it should boot from usb, and it tried, and failed. it should also boot from cd, but it sorta gave up and booted from the one running system I have installed on the old disk.
[03:57] <MestreLion> Hilikus: i don't know man... i've never had the guts to do a desktop "live" upgrade... i always do fresh install ones... server is even more serious in this regard
[03:58] <worrow> I need the app-remove alternative to remove a file from a folder and not uninstall i
[03:58] <HippyNerd> Maybe I should ask, I am running 11.04, on an older disk, and I want to install 11.10 from Either CD, USB disk, or .ISO.
[03:59] <HippyNerd> without rebooting the computer to the media.
[03:59] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, just upgrade.
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> HippyNerd: grab the alternate ISO, mount it and you can upgrade using that
[04:00] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: depeding on how modern is your bios, booting from USB can be tricky... but modern bioses usually have a key that you can choose boot media at boot time without actually entering or chaning bios settings... if thats your case, its your best bet... find out which key is yours (google?) and see if the CD shows up in the list
[04:00] <donavan01> anyone know how to get an apple G5 to take ubuntu
[04:00] <aeon-ltd> donavan01: search for a powerpc iso
[04:01] <konam> hi, i'm trying to change the cursor of my ubuntu 10.10 installation
[04:01] <donavan01> got it but I cant get it boot from the dvd it just looks at me like im stupid
[04:01] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, urlin2u mentioned something like that, I dont think this bios has that. The CD and the USB drive show up in the bios.
[04:01] <konam> can anyone help me on that
[04:01] <konam> ?
[04:01] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: oh, without booting? apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> konam: sure
[04:02] <Matisse> brjannc, can you give me a hint for finding the right pulse config? I have 5 outputs on my computer, 3 stereo cables leading from there to the 5.1 amp.  the former 5.1 settings didnt give a subwoofer signal, thats why attach the center channel to the sufwoofer...
[04:02] <XGaryG> Does anyone use Ubuntu-One with TomBoy notes?
[04:02] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, can it install fresh to the new disk?
[04:02] <HippyNerd> while running from the old disk?
[04:02] <konam> ActionParsnip thanks, i can't make the theme show up on the pointer section of the "appearance" wizard...
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> konam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbEdV6zbzM
[04:02] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: not using apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <HippyNerd> seems like I should be able to open the cd and just click install.
[04:03] <Matisse> brjannc, now I'm playing around with pavumeter and pavucontrol, but I've got no idea expect choosing and reconnecting till I find something
[04:03] <brjannc> Matisse: I don't know that I'd be much more help than poking and praying, I'm afraid :\
[04:03] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: how did you install that 11.04 in the first place?
[04:04] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, on the old computer.
[04:04] <no-name-> how do you make gnome apps open maximised?
[04:04] <Matisse> brjannc, da... at least you pushed me in the right direction, thx for that :9
[04:04] <Matisse> :)
[04:04] <urlin2u> HippyNerd, hehe that would be nice, but thats a windows thing, you can mount a ISO as suggested though. Really your problem here is not recognix=zing what I described has nothing to do with the bios, and your computer does have it all do.
[04:04] <MestreLion> oh, and you moved the HDD to a new computer?
[04:04] <HippyNerd> The new computer has a blank disk, and my old disk in it.
[04:05] <MestreLion> urlin2u: can you mount an ISO and do afresh install from there
[04:05] <MestreLion> ?
[04:05] <brjannc> Matisse: Sure thing :) This guide *might* help you out: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Using_ALSA%27s_speaker-test_utility
[04:05] <urlin2u> MestreLion, yeah hold on.
[04:05] <XGaryG> I take it Ubuntu-One is buggy enough that no-one wants to deal with it?
[04:05] <MestreLion> i have lots of ISO's here... let me try that :D
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: if compiz cannot do it, there is devilspie which you can configure with gdevilspie from googlecode. Very powerful app
[04:05] <brjannc> Matisse: (It's a mythtv guide, but mythtv is based on ubuntu, so there should be a lot of similarities)
[04:06] <HippyNerd> urlin2u, yeah, for all I know, this computer may not boot a windows boot disk either, but that doesnt solve my problem. I have a running system.
[04:06] <brjannc> Matisse: well, mythbuntu is, i mean
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> XGaryG: many use it well
[04:06] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: is the old computer still available? :P
[04:07] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, yes, sorta.
[04:07] <MestreLion> can you boot the CD there?
[04:07] <MestreLion> just to see if the CD is ok
[04:08] <XGaryG> It is not working here, and not giving a hint why not.
[04:08] <TDJACR> Is there a way to block https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenuBar when using gnome3 so when a window is maxed its menu still shows up
[04:08] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, I'd have to put it back together, and I'd have to shut this computer down to do that.
[04:08] <urlin2u> MestreLion, took awhile to find here you go. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[04:09] <philip> has anyone used badram or memmap in ubuntu 11.10 with grub2? I need help blocking off some memory
[04:09] <philip> I have done online homework yet what i have tried based on googling and reading at ubuntu.com has not worked
[04:10] <MestreLion> urlin2u: side-note... nautilus in Linux Mint 10 can double-click-mount ISO's for 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, but not for the 11.10 ISO.. weird huh? i need to use ther Nautilus-action "Moutn" (requires sudo) for that
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: does it pass MD5 test?
[04:10] <HippyNerd> For some reason, this computer wont boot from cd, or usb, but will boot from HDD. I can read both cd and usb drives, so it seems like I should be able to boot right to them from a running ubuntu system, I think you can do that from a running windows system cant you?
[04:11] <MestreLion> is ISO format different in 11.10 that would prevent MAverick to user-mount it in double-click?
[04:11] <urlin2u> MestreLion, stange I have never had a problem mounting them in Ubuntu for ionstall is another thing though.
[04:11] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: i didnt test it.. but i can mount it using sudo, and it browses just fine... i can also use it to install in VirtualBox... so i dont think it is corrupted
[04:11] <danes> I am getting this error when I try to update using terminal: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:12] <danes> how can I fix it?
[04:13] <urlin2u> danes, what is the release?
[04:13] <MestreLion> urlin2u: hummm, grub's ISO boot... nice approach... it may help HippyNerd 's issue...
[04:14] <konam> ActionParsnip thanks, i redownloaded the cursor theme again and did this process
[04:14] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459 . is there any official MD5 list for ubuntu's ISOs at hand?
[04:15] <urlin2u> MestreLion, go for it I give up.
[04:15] <HippyNerd> I dont have any floppy disks, so SmartBoot seems to be out too :(
[04:15] <danes> urlin2u, 11.04
[04:16] <danes> urlin2u, I've been upgrading since 10.04
[04:16] <urlin2u> danes, try changing the mirror in softwaresources.
[04:16] <danes> urlin2u, sorry, its actually 11.10
[04:16] <danes> urlin2u, how can I do that
[04:16] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: urlin2u hinted about a gurb feature that can boot ISO's directly... it may solve your issue... but its a bit tricky... far more trick than trying to boot a burned CD
[04:16] <HippyNerd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromCForUSBStick
[04:17] <MestreLion> grub*
[04:18] <danes> is there any command to see the list of installed programs?
[04:18] <brjannc> danes: one way is dpkg --get-selections
[04:19] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: ok, MD5 hashes match... i wonder why 11.10's ISO is not "mountable" with double click as the others
[04:19] <HippyNerd> ugh, this has already become too much hassle for tonite. I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
[04:19] <MestreLion> danes: sinaptic also can show this... its not instaled by default in 11.10, but its still in repos
[04:19] <hylian> brain fry, eh HippyNerd?
[04:20] <urlin2u> danes, type software sources in the dash open it hit download from-other and choose , or select best server.another
[04:20] <MestreLion> danes: also,, AptOnCD is a nice app that shows this too
[04:20] <urlin2u> danes, sorry that another goes in the sentence.
[04:20] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: wait
[04:20] <HippyNerd> hylian, tired, too many hours doing manual labor.
[04:21] <Matisse> is it possible to configure alsa that it can play multiple sound sources at the same time (f.e. vlc, system sounds, flashplugin)
[04:21] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, ?
[04:21] <HACKhalo2> I have a partiton that has root permissions, how do i change that?
[04:21] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: your ptoblem may be either a bios not set prolerly to boot CDs, OR a corrpted / bad CD... your best bet would be to eliminate either possiblity.. that would cut diagnosis to half
[04:21] <HACKhalo2> note this is not the main partiton
[04:22] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: what do you mean by "has root permissions?"
[04:22] <HACKhalo2> i mean when I mount it root can only change it
[04:22] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: so I would start byt either testing that CD on another machine, just to see if it boots... and/or trying to boot some other media in your PC (any win xp cd would do the trick)
[04:23] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, Im pretty confident the cd and usb stick are fine. Im also fairly sure I've changed the bios properly, im uncertain if this 5 year old motherboard is working right.
[04:23] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: Ah, I see. How is it being mounted? via mount on the command line? gnome auto-mounting?
[04:23] <HippyNerd> the usb stick boots fine on other computers. just not this one, even though it this stick shows up as a bootable device in the bios, and the bios is set to boot i.
[04:24] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: dont be "pretty-confident"... rule out possibilities, one by one... it will quckly nail down your problem to the real issue
[04:24] <HACKhalo2> brjannc, i guess via nautius
[04:24] <MestreLion> once you know *where* its not working, it will be much easier to troubleshoot
[04:25] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: okay, give me a minute
[04:25] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, ok, after I have some pie, watch some tv, sleep, then work 8-10hours, I'll double check that my cd infact boots on other computers, and the usb stick boots on other computer, then I can take some pictures of the bios settings, and upload them to show you.  but I'd really rather just install from my old disk to the new disk.
[04:25] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: "bios being set to boot usb" is always tricky.. some older ones simply refuse to boot it... some requires voodoo like "USB-HDD" emulation...
[04:26] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: is this a removable device, like a USB drive? or just a partition on a disk?
[04:26] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: wait...
[04:26] <HACKhalo2> HDD partition
[04:26] <MestreLion> you mean... copy the OS from one HDD to another?
[04:26] <MestreLion> because that would be a 1-line "dd" :P
[04:27] <HippyNerd> MestreLion, no, i just mean that I know some how I can install 11-10 from any of the many sources I have (cd, iso, usb drive) from a running 11-4 system
[04:28] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: Oh, okay. All you need to do is change the ownership of the directory/directories, then, like sudo chown user /path/to/directory , where user is the user you want to own it. if you're certain there's nothing OS-related in that directory, you can add the -R flag to do it recursively
[04:28] <HippyNerd> thanks for the help, but im just too tired to get this going tonite.
[04:29] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: ok then... in this case you really need to boot it. take your break / snake / sleep;.. when you come back, if you give up trying to boot USB or CD, try GRUB's ISO boot... its a nice feature, and it works great
[04:29] <MestreLion> snack*
[04:30] <HACKhalo2> brjannc ok thank you. so i cd into the UUID and just chown -R the entire thing?
[04:30] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: you mean like /media/some-uuid ?
[04:30] <HACKhalo2> yea
[04:31] <MestreLion> HippyNerd: bookmark this, and try later: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[04:31] <HACKhalo2> that's where it's mounted at
[04:31] <MestreLion> (credit to urlin2u
[04:31] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: yep, that would work
[04:31] <HACKhalo2> ok thankyou brjannc
[04:32] <fellayaboy> how can i bridge the connection from ubuntu to xbox 360?
[04:32] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: just be careful you're in the right directory when you chown -R, double check everything before hitting enter :)
[04:32] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: sure thing
[04:32] <Hilikus> i was running an update but my console crashed. now i see the terminal being connected (pts/2) and the processes are still there. how can i re-grab or re-attach to pts/2?
[04:32] <askhader> Hilikus: Did you suspend the process?
[04:33] <Hilikus> askhader: no, something crashed and it looks like the terminal detached
[04:34] <askhader> Doubtful.
[04:34] <brjannc> Hilikus: were you using screen or anything like that?
[04:34] <askhader> I think you're out of luck
[04:34] <worrow> is anyone available to answer some questions?
[04:34] <Hilikus> brjannc: no, i was running a distro upgrade
[04:34] <brjannc> worrow: ask away
[04:35] <worrow> I'm working on clearing out my autostart folder and not sure if some are a requirement to boot
[04:35] <philip> is there a way to quit using the encrypted home folder feature
[04:35] <danes> how can I swith back to the old panel? I dont like the new way the icons are displayed. I want to have all my icons accessible all the time
[04:35] <brjannc> Hilikus: I'll agree with askhader then, I don't think there's any way to reattach to a pty. Surprised it's still there, actually
[04:35] <worrow> If I list the names of them would you be able to narrow it down for me?
[04:36] <brjannc> worrow: do you mean system services, or your desktop session's autostart programs?
[04:36] <worrow> /etc/xdg/autostart
[04:36] <worrow> but also am going to disable services on boot
[04:36] <worrow> need to find the file for the services to edit
[04:37] <worrow> autostart programs
[04:37] <MestreLion> worrow: there are good GUI's for both
[04:37] <worrow> not for my distro
[04:37]  * brjannc checks to make sure he's still in #ubuntu ;)
[04:38] <HACKhalo2> oh fuck
[04:38] <HACKhalo2> :\
[04:38] <HACKhalo2> i just chowned /
[04:38] <HACKhalo2> :S
[04:38] <FloodBot1> HACKhalo2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <pangolin> HACKhalo2: Please mind your language
[04:38] <HACKhalo2> sorry
[04:38] <MestreLion> worrow: its risky to ask ubuntu users for the list of required boot apps, since they can be different in your distro
[04:38] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: :(
[04:39] <HACKhalo2> yea, how screwed am I?
[04:39] <worrow> I was going to listem
[04:39] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: pretty screwed
[04:39] <worrow> mines a fork
[04:39] <HACKhalo2> well i stopped it quickly
[04:39] <MestreLion> wow, a user-owned "/" ? :D
[04:39] <HACKhalo2> can I fix it?
[04:39] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: no telling how far it got, though.
[04:39] <MestreLion> was it recursive HACKhalo2
[04:39] <MestreLion> ?
[04:39] <worrow> ok lets simplify. do you know the name of the boot service file? (generic)
[04:40] <HACKhalo2> brjannc /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
[04:40] <HACKhalo2> and yes MestreLion
[04:40] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: ummm... possibly? don't reboot, and sudo to root just to make sure you have a root terminal in case something goes wrong
[04:40] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: sudo -i
[04:41] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: wow... grab a coffee... this will be a loooong nite :P
[04:41] <HACKhalo2> I have sudo to root
[04:41] <MestreLion> and.. DONT reboot ::P
[04:41] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: and be SUPER CAREFUL this time. don't do anything in that terminal, just leave it sit there at the # prompt
[04:41] <worrow> boot service file name or location anyone?
[04:41] <HACKhalo2> I'm going to download a liveCD of Ubuntu and drop it on my microSD
[04:41] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: I mean, sudo -i, so that you are *actually* root. when systems start to break, sudo can stop working, so it's important to have a root terminal open
[04:41] <HACKhalo2> just in case
[04:41] <MestreLion> worrow: what do you mean by "boot service file" ?
[04:42] <HACKhalo2> brjannc, i can sudo -i, and it asks for a password
[04:42] <worrow> well, services are running on the computer, I want to edit which ones I want to disable during startup
[04:42] <HACKhalo2> i only think it got to /var/
[04:42] <worrow> I don't use a printer or bluetooth for example
[04:42] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: yep, it's asking for your password. then it'll drop you to a prompt that ends in # instead of $. that's a root prompt, everything you do there will be like you're running it with sudo. so don't do anything yet!
[04:43] <HACKhalo2> i'm not
[04:43] <HACKhalo2> but like I said, downloading a Ubuntu LiveCD on my microSD just in case
[04:43] <MestreLion> worrow: sudo service --status-all
[04:43] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: k :) alright. umm... let's see. in another terminal, as your regular user,    cd /     and then please    ls -alT | pastebinit
[04:44] <worrow> is there a file location for that?
[04:44] <Matisse> ahhh, damn it... I have changed my sound system, correct channels to correct outputs... but now I hear the 50 Hz...
[04:44] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: whoops, lowercase t. ls -alt | pastebinit
[04:44] <MestreLion> worrow.. its a different distro. the required services and the method to disable them will be different
[04:44] <worrow> i know, just not sure where to find it or what it may be called
[04:44] <HACKhalo2> ok
[04:44] <HACKhalo2> installing pastebinit now
[04:45] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: k
[04:45] <HACKhalo2> also loading Ubuntu 11_04_x64 on microSD
[04:45] <MestreLion> worrow: in Ubuntu, some services use the old SysV method, some use the new upstart way
[04:46] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: hopefully we won't need it :)
[04:46] <HACKhalo2> brjannc http://paste.ubuntu.com/741905/
[04:46] <HACKhalo2> hopefully
[04:46] <HACKhalo2> but my power is twitchy sometimes
[04:46] <worrow> most were listed with ? also witgh - and +  (whats that mean?
[04:46] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: that's your home directory; please cd / first and run again :)
[04:46] <HACKhalo2> haha :P
[04:47] <MestreLion> brjannc and HACKhalo2 : maybe its time to consider if a full reinstall would take LESS time than trying to reset every chown of every folder in the whole filesywstem back to its correct setting
[04:47] <HACKhalo2> brjannc http://paste.ubuntu.com/741907/
[04:47] <brjannc> MestreLion: he aborted it fairly early, I'm checking to see what root directories were touched. no worries, I know when bare metal reinstalls are faster ;)
[04:47] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion can't afford a full reinstall, I have a LOT of code and stuff I need for a NPO i work for
[04:48] <HACKhalo2> and I only have a 2GB microSD
[04:48] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: full reinstall would only change apps and OS... it does not need to change *any* of your data
[04:49] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: ls -alt /etc | pastebinit
[04:49] <MestreLion> sure, it would be a major pain to apt-get and configure everything back... but your /home folder can stay untouched
[04:49] <HACKhalo2> brjannc http://paste.ubuntu.com/741912/
[04:50] <MestreLion> brjannc: how to know how "early" he aborted? i wonder if i could fix that myself if i need to
[04:50] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion oh... I always just wiped the partition and reinstalled that way :P
[04:50] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: huh. okay, two more. ls -altR /etc | pastebinit     and ls -altR /dev | pastebinit
[04:51] <brjannc> MestreLion: I'm checking the modified timestamps on the directories; any directory last modified before a little while ago wasn't affected
[04:51] <HACKhalo2> brjannc http://paste.ubuntu.com/741913/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/741914/
[04:51] <HACKhalo2> i feel like such a newb
[04:51] <HACKhalo2> lol
[04:51] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: it is good practice to create a folder/partition (isolated from you $HOME) too keep personal files like docs, music, videos, code, etc etc...
[04:52] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion I'll remember that next time :P
[04:52] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: am i correct in that you chown'd to hackhalo2?
[04:53] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: dont be... it can happen with anyone.. just double check any sudo.. and triple-check any sudo involving chowing :P
[04:53] <HACKhalo2> brjannc yep thats my username
[04:53] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: good news, /etc is safe
[04:54] <MestreLion> lucky boy
[04:54] <mbrochh> hi all. is there any way to clear recent documents on 11.10?
[04:54] <MestreLion> is /usr too ?
[04:54] <ssfdre38> what is the location of the MySQL Header files?
[04:54] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: /dev is safe too. the only other directories that've been modified today are /tmp (doesn't matter if ownership changed), /media (eh, not a big deal if changed), and /run (shouldn't matter)
[04:55] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: so, somehow, you completely escaped disaster.
[04:55] <HACKhalo2> hahahah
[04:55] <HACKhalo2> wow
[04:55] <HACKhalo2> I got lucky
[04:55] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: yes. yes you did. :)
[04:55] <MestreLion> wow, an aborted recursive chown that didnt messed up /etc and /usr ? Man, go to church NOW ! :D
[04:55] <HACKhalo2> ok
[04:55] <HACKhalo2> haha
[04:56] <HACKhalo2> well I'm still going to have the rescue disc just in case
[04:56] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: the only files in /etc that were owned by your user looked like they were that way because you created them (maven.sh)
[04:56] <HACKhalo2> yea
[04:57] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: go buy a lottery ticket :)
[04:57] <HACKhalo2> so now I know chown doesn't do what directory your in
[04:57] <HACKhalo2> brjannc if I had the money
[04:57] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: hm?
[04:57] <HACKhalo2> i did chown -R hackhalo2 / in the media/UUID directory
[04:57] <HACKhalo2> :P
[04:58] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: haha, yes, that's bad. if you want to do the current directory, you'd do chown <whatever> .
[04:58] <HACKhalo2> i now know that
[04:58] <HACKhalo2> :D
[04:58] <ssfdre38> where is the MySQL Header files located at so i can install php from source
[04:58] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: where the dot means "the directory i'm in now"
[04:58] <HACKhalo2> I never needed to use chown before
[04:59] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: chown and chmod behave pretty much the same, if you ever need to use chmod in the future
[04:59] <HACKhalo2> i've used chmod before, but I traversed into the directory and did it that way
[04:59]  * brjannc wonders what the heck chown was doing between you hitting enter and cancelling it
[05:00] <HACKhalo2> brjannc, hitting the /var/ directory
[05:00] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: really?
[05:00] <HACKhalo2> yep
[05:00] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: the last "/" in your command mens the root directory...
[05:01] <MK`> I was just using a harddrive when it accidentally disconnected before I could unmount it. Now it says i cannot mount it, because it think's it's still mounted but inaccessible. How do I clear this broken mount from the drive table?
[05:02] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: that doesn't make any sense... /var was last touched 2011-11-09
[05:02] <MestreLion> some commands *may* work in current dir... but in this case you explicitly said the root directory
[05:02] <MestreLion> MK`: mount -u ?
[05:02] <HACKhalo2> brjannc, tre last directory printer was chown: changing ownership of `/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages'^C
[05:03] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: ohh.. i wonder if it traversed deeper into the tree before modifying anything in var proper...
[05:03] <MestreLion> i mean.. umount
[05:03] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: this might be huge, but ls -altR /var | pastebinit
[05:04] <HACKhalo2> brjannc
[05:04] <HACKhalo2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/741919/
[05:04] <HACKhalo2> bah
[05:04] <HACKhalo2> twitchy enter finger
[05:05] <MK`> Ah, damn, it's something else then. It's not listed in the mount table, it seems that it is nautilus that is confused
[05:05] <HACKhalo2> oh my god
[05:05] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: that doesn't make any sense, there's nothing in /var owned by your user that shouldn't be as far as i can tell
[05:05] <HACKhalo2> chown didn't do anything
[05:05] <HACKhalo2> i didn't sudo it
[05:06] <brjannc> :|
[05:06] <HACKhalo2> it ran as hackhalo2
[05:06]  * brjannc needs a drink
[05:06]  * HACKhalo2 epic facepalms
[05:06] <MK`> MestreLion any other ideas? It's not showing up when i run mount
[05:06]  * benct needs a drink too
[05:06] <HACKhalo2> so I got lucky on my stupidity
[05:06] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: but hey, that's even better than not really knowing what it could have touched
[05:07] <HACKhalo2> yea
[05:07] <ssfdre38> can someone help me with php and MySQL header files?
[05:07] <HACKhalo2> ok, so as a triple check, sudo chown -R hackhalo2 . will chown everything in the current directory that I'm in, correct?
[05:08] <MestreLion> MK`: have you tried unmounting it with umount?
[05:08] <ssfdre38> HACKhalo2, do sudo chown -R hackhalo2:hackhalo2 /path/to/dir
[05:09] <brjannc> HACKhalo2: that's correct, and it will do so recursively. but ssfdre38's suggestion is a good one, that's typically how I do it too
[05:09] <MestreLion> HACKhalo2: weird... chown doesnt even run without sudo
[05:09] <somsip> HACKhalo2: yes, but won't change the group. What ssfdre38 has suggested will do that too
[05:09] <lystra> I'm running 11.10. I have the console set to the serial port, ttyS0. Is there any type of idle timeout that disconnects the console connection if there is no login or inactivity?
[05:10] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion huh... not sure then. I did chown as a dry run to make sure it was the directory that I wanted
[05:10] <HACKhalo2> this last time
[05:11] <HACKhalo2> not the partition I wanted is owned by me :D
[05:11] <MestreLion> rodrigo@desktop ~/testdir $ chown root .
[05:11] <MestreLion> chown: changing ownership of `.': Operation not permitted
[05:11] <HACKhalo2> er, s/not/me :P
[05:11] <ssfdre38> HACKhalo2, that is what i would do when i chown my /usr/share dir for me to edit everything
[05:11] <MestreLion> wait HACKhalo2 ... you want to change the owner of a.. partition? then you dont need chown at all
[05:12] <MestreLion> you need to mess with the mount options
[05:12] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion, I mounted it with Nautlius and it mounted it as root
[05:13] <MestreLion> how? double-clicking a partition?
[05:13] <HACKhalo2> yep
[05:13] <MestreLion> was nautilus running as root?
[05:13] <fling> how to execute a script at exact date and time?
[05:13] <HACKhalo2> Nautlius is running under my account
[05:14] <MestreLion> did it ask for password when mounting?
[05:14] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion nope
[05:14] <MestreLion> what filesystem is that partition?
[05:14] <MK`> well that was the first time I've had Linux crash on me in a long time. I'm going to assume it was due to that bad mount
[05:14] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion ext4
[05:15] <MestreLion> its really weird for nautilus to user-mount a partition as root
[05:15] <HACKhalo2> MestreLion Nautilus is also crashing while unmounting the partition too
[05:16] <MestreLion> are those partitions listed in /etc/fstab ?
[05:16] <MestreLion> nevermind, they arent, or they wouldnt show up in nautilus
[05:16] <MestreLion> MK`: did you try my umount suggestion?
[05:20] <Quontrex> evening ubuntu
[05:20] <MK`> MestreLion it did not appear in the mount table
[05:21] <MK`> When I saw you highlighted me I clicked over here, but then the system bugged out. The screen fell dim, and then I got a black screen with errors and had to hard reset.
[05:21] <MestreLion> and how is the mount now?
[05:22] <oracle> how do I run a .run file?
[05:22] <MK`> it's gone since I've removed the drive.
[05:22] <Quontrex> mount fail due to improper drive mounting
[05:23] <Doodie> I am trying to run wifi on my lenovo E425 but nothing is helping
[05:23] <Quontrex> doodie: do you have the factory wifi card in it?
[05:23] <MestreLion> oracle: double-click usually works if the file is set as executable
[05:23] <Doodie> yes Quontrex
[05:24] <MestreLion> oracle: if not, right-click it and set it as executable
[05:24] <Quontrex> doodie: open terminal and type lspci and look for the card
[05:25] <MestreLion> oracle: if you want the terminal way, use chmod +x /path/to/file and then ./path/to/fle (notice the "." before the path)
[05:25] <Quontrex> netsplit
[05:26] <Doodie> Quontrex, Ethernet controller Realtek RTL8111
[05:27] <jiltdil> Channel for LFS??
[05:27] <rango> I don't think so
[05:27] <jiltdil> hm
[05:28] <MK`> I believe the mount is what broke it. "Nov 18 00:09:21 kernel: [ 3456.132328] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000018"
[05:31] <HACKhalo2> new question: is there an easy and sane way to rename multiple files?
[05:31] <MK`> HACKhalo2: try pyrenamer
[05:31] <Quontrex> hack: easy, yes, renaming them not so much
[05:32] <Doodie> Quontrex, any help for the wifi on lenovo?
[05:33] <Quontrex> Doodie: have you tried the restricted drivers
[05:34] <Doodie> Quontrex, yes sir but it does not show the wifi hardware
[05:35] <sinisterstuf> happy haxday everyone! :)
[05:35] <Quontrex> I hate pointing someone to google but you may need to pull that card out and google its part number vs ubuntu
[05:35] <Quontrex> part number WITH the version number
[05:36] <Quontrex> lenovo usually plays well with ubuntu
[05:36] <sinisterstuf> I joined this conversation a bit late but that just reminded me there's a page on  the Ubuntu Wiki with a table of wifi cards and respective drivers and a list of instructions, not sure if this is at all useful...
[05:36] <Quontrex> please, pull it up!
[05:37] <Doodie> ok , still trying
[05:37] <sinisterstuf> I have no idea where it is but the Arch Linux wiki had their own list (which is easy to find)
[05:38] <orated> Hello! I read that next release of Ubuntu will be of  ~750MB which will fit in DVD. What is the reason for it? And why keeping it only little more than 100MB for it to go out of CD?
[05:38] <sinisterstuf> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless
[05:38] <sinisterstuf> I'll look for the Ubuntu one
[05:38] <Quontrex> thanks sinister
[05:40] <sinisterstuf> no problem
[05:40] <MestreLion> orated: the real question is: if going for DVD is inevitable (Ubuntu cant properly fit a CD for a long time), why be shy and go only 750MB, when it can go 1, 2, 3gigs?
[05:40] <unique> how can i login to wifi with a password on ubuntu server no xwindow?
[05:40] <Quontrex> I have a question also, someone else had it and I had a different answer
[05:41] <Quontrex> wheeee I just bought a 1mb hard drive, I'll never need more - Bill Gates
[05:41] <orated> MestreLion: That's what I asked :)
[05:41] <williamchan_> i just installed xubuntu; however when i reboot it still boot to windows7 and theres no grub menu... ideas?
[05:42] <williamchan_> shouldnt the xubuntu installer automatically install grub in the mbr of /dev/sda (i only have 1 drive) .. its a SSD tho if it matters
[05:42] <williamchan_> and i believe i am also booting via UEFI if that mastters as well
[05:42] <MestreLion> orated: there is a 1.5GB DVD available for Oneiric... it contains more langugepacks and a full LibreOffice... its buried alil deeper than the CD install, but it can be found
[05:42] <sinisterstuf> unique, you might be interested in a wifi tool for the commandline like wicd (sudo apt-get install wicd) it's very easy to use, allows you to specify password/ip/everything for different networks just like the graphical network manager, give it a try!
[05:43] <booh> Grub boot too fast.. how to have the menu?
[05:44] <MestreLion> booh: but can you SEE the menu? if yes, hit any key to cancel the countdown timer. If no, press SHIFT to make menu visible on boot
[05:44] <orated> MestreLion: Yes, I know that. But what is the reason for Ubuntu to keep next release in 750MB only
[05:44] <sinisterstuf> I found some relevant pages about Wifi on Ubuntu on the Ubuntu help site Quontrex
[05:44] <williamchan_> MestreLion: is grub supposed to be visible by default? maybe i need to press SHIFT to see grub too?
[05:45] <MestreLion> williamchan_: it is visible if you have more than 1 OS in the menu... if you only have 1, it simply skips the menu and boots the OS directly
[05:45] <williamchan_> MestreLion: i just did a fresh install... no grub menu at all.. continues booting to win7
[05:46] <sinisterstuf> booh, edit the file /etc/default/grub and change the line GRUB_TIMEOUT=2 to GRUB_TIMEOUT= however many seconds you want it to wait, then do: sudo update-grub
[05:46] <williamchan_> im booting via EFI .. would that be a problem?
[05:46] <MestreLion> orated: not sure... maybe to keep download time small.. many people already complain ubuntu is too bloated.
[05:46] <sinisterstuf> williamchan_, my previous message might be useful to you too
[05:46] <Quontrex> oops whoever I accidentially PM'd
[05:46] <sinisterstuf> williamchan_, in fact, just have a look around in that file I mention, perhaps your grub is set to hidden or something?
[05:47] <williamchan_> sinisterstuf: this is fresh install tho.. never had this trouble before =\
[05:47] <sinisterstuf> williamchan_, I think it's worth checking anyway, just in case.
[05:47] <MestreLion> sinisterstuf: if hes booting in windows, editing or taking a look at /etc/defaults/grub will be tricky :P
[05:47] <orion_> test
[05:47] <sinisterstuf> MestreLion, good point :|
[05:47] <booh> sinisterstuf, psiit... I can't boot... the system freeze so I need the menu of grub.
[05:48] <booh> MestreLion, thanks... I try...
[05:48] <MestreLion> booh: try pressing SHIFT right away when it boots to make the menu visible
[05:49] <p1und3r> anyone in here own a Ekoore Perl tablet with Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:49] <bjrohan> I am having MAJOR wifi issues, see my logs here, all suggestions greatly appreciated. I already tried modifying modprobe config options iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=0 here is my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/741938/
[05:49] <sinisterstuf> williamchan_, booh, to edit the /etc/defaults/grub file you might need to use a live CD, for updating grub from a live CD you will need to mount things in a certain way, there are instructions on the Ubuntu Wiki under the topic "Recovering Ubuntu From Windows" (or similar) or I can help you
[05:49] <bjrohan> I am using 11.10 ubuntu
[05:49] <williamchan_> SHIFT doesnt work for me... it just goes onto to windows7
[05:49] <MestreLion> williamchan_: not sure if default xubuntu installler handles EFI... maybe you need the alternate installer?
[05:50] <booh> SHIFT doesn't work I am in vmware...
[05:52] <williamchan_> MestreLion: OK . so im in the recovery disk . what do i do to install grub properly on my UEFI system
[05:53] <bjrohan> Would using ndiswrapper solve my wireless issues? syslog is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/741938/
[05:53] <orated> MestreLion: ^^ Less download time when size is increased.. actually it will take a little longer time to download the CD iso. And, I didn't intend to pull out if Ubuntu is bloated or not, its good.
[05:53] <Quontrex> bjrohan: have you googled ndiswrapper "your card model?"
[05:54] <booh> grrrrrrrr vmware
[05:54] <philip> why is xubuntu-desktop got 404 packages in 11.10.. thats sucky
[05:54] <bjrohan> I forget how to look up the details on my card
[05:54] <williamchan_> MestreLion: I am in the recovery.. how to install grub onto my /dev/sda ?
[05:54] <booh> system freeze at rc.local and I can't have the menu in grub, boot is too fast, I don't have time to press shitf because I have to click inside the console begore.
[05:57] <williamchan_> interesting... im in the recovery disk and i look at my /dev/sda3 (where i installed xubuntu) ... theres no /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:57] <williamchan_> theres a /boot/grub tho...
[05:57] <williamchan_> how do i reinstall grub?
[06:01] <Quontrex> does anyone see a theme here with grub being busted?
[06:02] <Quontrex> menu.lst
[06:03] <booh> hey... it's ESC to enter grub boot menu.. not shift..
[06:04] <Quontrex> its esc RIGHT after the machine bios routine
[06:04] <williamchan_> BOOYAH
[06:04] <williamchan_> reinstalled grub manually
[06:04] <williamchan_> got it working
[06:04] <Quontrex> my hero
[06:06]  * OerHeks still believes it is left-shi
[06:06] <ssfdre38> is there a way i can install Firefox 8.0 from source?
[06:06] <Quontrex> williamchan_: would you please make a howto to do that so we dont have to do it over and over
[06:08] <orated> ssfdre38: Try #firefox
[06:09] <basheer_> Hi
[06:10] <williamchan_> XUBUNTU FTW
[06:10] <williamchan_> NO MORE GNOME3 !!
[06:10] <Quontrex> evening basheer
[06:10] <OerHeks> ssfdre38, you could add the stable mozilla ppa, no need to compile > ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable but it is not supported.
[06:10] <Quontrex> fluxbox rhules
[06:10] <basheer_> I am new to ubuntu
[06:10] <basheer_> wanna learn things
[06:10] <Quontrex> what can I help you with?
[06:11] <basheer_> first with irssi
[06:11] <Quontrex> !irssi
[06:12] <Quontrex> if you let me pm you Ill give you a secret
[06:12] <basheer_> how?
[06:12] <williamchan_> hmm
[06:13] <williamchan_> xubuntus font doesnt seem to be antialiased properly... just me?
[06:13] <williamchan_> the terminal font looks so bad
[06:13] <siavoshkc> a secret
[06:13] <siavoshkc> scum
[06:14] <Quontrex> I am not scum, I was going to give him mirc as a crutch
[06:15] <basheer_> man irssi
[06:16] <Quontrex> thats tough water to paddle in
[06:20] <williamchan_> hey guys... the font rendering on xubuntu is horrible...  how to fix?
[06:21] <colin___> hello. pardon me.
[06:22] <colin___> I have a quick question about whether to go 32-bit or 64-bit for -/K/X/L ubuntu.
[06:22] <tensorpudding> do you have a 64-bit capable processor?
[06:22] <tensorpudding> if yes, do you have 4 GB or more of RAM?
[06:23] <tensorpudding> then go 64-bit
[06:23] <colin___> I have a downloaded both Xubuntu 32 and 64. I'm getting new laptop with 64 bit processor.
[06:23] <colin___> And > 8 GB RAM.
[06:23] <tensorpudding> then go 64-bit, definitely
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> colin___: 64bit fo sho :)
[06:24] <colin___> Will be getting a new laptop with Intel i7 core, 8 GB and beyond.
[06:24] <colin___> Thanks. Now I know to put on Xubuntu 64 bit, okay?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> colin___: definately :)
[06:25] <colin___> Thanks. Is 64 bit the same as amd64 even if I have to buy an Intel Core i7 quad core?
[06:25] <Logan_> yes
[06:26] <colin___> Okay. Right.
[06:26] <Ubur> hi! i'm trying to turn on the hotspot feature but always disconnected by its own within several seconds... any solution?
[06:26] <Logan_> colin___: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit for more information
[06:27] <colin___> How do I quit this IRC? Accessing it via web browser.
[06:27] <Logan_> just close the tab
[06:27] <colin___> Thanks, but need no more info about whether I need 64 bit.
[06:28] <excelsio1> what's the best linux for a 256 MB computer?
[06:28] <tensorpudding> lubuntu could probably run on that
[06:29] <Quontrex> excelsio1: give me a second there is a 386 compile for it
[06:29] <excelsio1> Yeah, but what about office software and maybe accounting software or edubuntu games?
[06:29] <Quontrex> excelsio1; sudo apt-get install linux-image-386
[06:30] <Quontrex> might try fluxbuntu
[06:30] <excelsio1> Quontrex: I have no idea what that will do. Can you explain?
[06:30] <excelsio1> What about DSL or Puppy?
[06:31] <Quontrex> yeah dsl will work for him
[06:31] <excelsio1> seems like Puppy was buggy on my old 256 machine
[06:31] <Quontrex> was trying to keep him in the family
[06:31] <urlin2u> puppy is not buggy
[06:31] <Quontrex> I use fluxbuntu on a 200mmx 64mb laptop as my jukebox
[06:32] <excelsio1> can dsl do the educational software for me? (if not buggy, run out of mem too quick)
[06:32] <badbandit> hello, I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and now Im having problems with 2 monitors
[06:32] <badbandit> the display settings in system settings does not detect my 2nd monitor
[06:32] <badbandit> if I run nvidia-settings and set it there, strange things happen, such as when I open a movie in movie player
[06:32] <Quontrex> DSL is damn small linux, and therefore you get damn small features
[06:33] <badbandit> my 2nd monitor basically freezes and although I can see it, I become limited to my first screen and have to disable it in nvidia settings
[06:33] <excelsio1> yeah... so I guess I just need to keep asking for more computers.
[06:33] <badbandit> any suggestions?
[06:33] <badbandit> this same occurence happened when I had both monitors going and was browsing the net
[06:33] <badbandit> 2nd monitor becomes disabled
[06:33] <Quontrex> excelsio1: can you email me the specs?
[06:33] <excelsio1> probably, one sec
[06:33] <badbandit> I notice the desktop is not extended, both screens have the full top nav/icons etc
[06:34] <Quontrex> actually just put the specs out here
[06:34] <unkr> badbandit, how can i do that also dual monitor ??  what are the requirements ??
[06:35] <worrow> many in here?
[06:35] <Quontrex> quite
[06:35] <unkr>  badbandit does i need to have graphic cards ???
[06:35] <badbandit> unkr: nvidia-settings, set 2nd monitor to twinview, open a movie in movie player
[06:35] <badbandit> wtf
[06:36] <excelsio1> dell dimension, 2100, xp, 256 MB Ram, 1,096Mhz processor, 37 GB HD, 16 Free.
[06:36] <unkr> badbandit, i dont know how to do that  i never tried that before
[06:36] <worrow> what files would i be looking for to speedup system boot
[06:37] <excelsio1> DCC CHAT in irssi?
[06:37] <excelsio1> what's that?
[06:37] <Quontrex> excelsio1 its safe
[06:37] <Quontrex> just say yes
[06:37] <excelsio1> yes
 : Good tool is sysv-rc-conf
[06:38] <Quontrex> I got your plan figured out
[06:38] <worrow> i want to manually edit without tools
[06:38] <unkr> worrow,  /etc/services   put minimum services to start at system boot  also look for any scripts in rc.local if you have applied
[06:38] <Mega^RelaX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[06:38] <unkr> worrow, there are several files not these two only
[06:39] <Mega^RelaX> run level. the oldschool way :D
[06:40] <worrow> yes there are many files. I only need to get to a few, just couldn't remember where to start looking. Also I'm not using Ubuntu directly.
[06:40] <worrow> :P
[06:40] <Edisto> does wubi install slow down disk performance?
[06:40] <booh> ubuntu in vmware freeze at boot after the message: @checking battery state
[06:41] <unkr> worrow : i told you the main ones  if you are using  graphical desktop  then also go to rc5.d directory  but you have to safe while changing inside the directory
[06:42] <worrow> small tweaks
[06:42] <worrow> baby steps
[06:43] <Mega^RelaX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile <---- if you want to go all the way :D
[06:44] <excelsio1> So anyways, I'm in charge of the computers at this non-profit, and I've just thrown out a "working" computer with less than 256 MB RAM, I have one with 256 MB RAM, should it be tossed too?
[06:44] <worrow> they are still good
[06:45] <worrow> mail them to me, I'll use them
[06:45] <monk> excelsio1- depends what your using it for...whats the cpu arch?
[06:45] <unkr> worrow,    if you can use name of the user whom your are rplying to you it will me more helpful for others
[06:46] <chroot> hi, what is the difference between kvm and libvirt
[06:46] <chroot> ?
[06:48] <monk> libvirt is a library
[06:48] <monk> libvirt, virtualization, virtualization API
[06:49] <monk> KVM (for Kernel-based Virtual Machine) is a full virtualization solution for Linux on x86
[06:51] <chroot> monk, if i install libvirt, then i can build a virtual machine without kvm, am i right?
[06:52] <monk> chroot- http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Main_Page
[06:53] <chroot> ok, thanks.
[06:53] <monk> :)
[06:53] <rajumoh> hey what's that widget/live wall where there is a small animated figure moving along on the desktop in KDE ?
[06:55] <userone> how can i access preferences in nautilus. the window is maximised open but the menu items at the top are not showing.
[06:55] <booh> I just don't understand now why my ubuntu vm freeze after check battery state message.. I do apt-get remove xorg gdm (I don't need graphical interface)
[06:55] <excelsio1> So anyways, I'm in charge of the computers at this non-profit, and I've just thrown out a "working" computer with less than 256 MB RAM, I have one with 256 MB RAM, should it be tossed too? about 1Ghz CPU, it's a dell dimension 2100
[06:56] <userone> excelsio1 try lubuntu or other lightweight os.
[06:58] <rajumoh> excelsio1: what is the main work in that non profit ? browsing the web ? mainting a webpage ?
[06:58] <userone> where is the setting to stop nautilus being the default file manager? i have installed another file manager but cannot uninstall nautilus without breaking ubuntu
[06:59] <rajumoh> userone: is it 11.10 ? for older versions at login you will have the option to user the new file manager /
[06:59] <fizyplankton> are load averages from `uptime` supposed to return a value more than the number of processors? im on a 4 core system and it says i have a load average of 4.27
[06:59] <rajumoh> *use
[07:00] <userone> rahumoh: yes, 11.10
[07:00] <rajumoh> userone: cant help you then, i moved to kubuntu cause the new gnome did not feet like my cup of tea..
[07:01] <userone> how do i get the menu items to show in 11.10?
[07:01] <userone> nautilus has just unexpectedly closed....
[07:02] <fizyplankton> are load averages from `uptime` supposed to return a value more than the number of processors? im on a 4 core system and it says i have a load average of 4.27
[07:02] <garden92> whats the best FTP client for ubuntu?
[07:03] <urlin2u> !best
[07:03] <fizyplankton> garden92: there is one built in that integrates w/ nautilus
[07:03] <zykotick9> fizyplankton, currently is each core maxed out?
[07:04] <userone> !quit
[07:04] <zykotick9> fizyplankton, and yes, they go much higher then number of processors/cores -- currently on my system (dual-core) load average: 9.07, 9.29, 9.48
[07:04] <userone> close
[07:05] <fizyplankton> zykotick9: RIGHT now, my avgs are 0.98, 1.57, 1.76. i was closing out of some programs that had been idle for a month. i didnt think to check the graph
[07:06] <BluebirdShao> where i can paste my pictures.
[07:06] <zykotick9> !paste | BluebirdShao
[07:06] <BluebirdShao> which website?
[07:06] <fizyplankton> i thot those were the percentage of the cpu being used. .98 ~= 25. so how could a processor be active 450% of the time?
[07:06] <unkr> can anyone tell me how can i customize the  ubuntu  ???
[07:07] <fizyplankton> unkr: depends. you can recompile the kernal. or install themes
[07:07] <zykotick9> fizyplankton, load isn't a percent.  1 = core fully used, so if you have 4 cores a load of 4 mean 100% cpu utilization
[07:08] <fizyplankton> so how can your cores have a load of 9 for 2 cores. thats 450% utilization
[07:08] <zykotick9> fizyplankton, that's right
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> fizyplankton: Exactly.  That's bad-ish.
[07:08] <unkr> fizyplankton, and how to do that ??
[07:09] <fizyplankton> tonyyarusso: bad-ish? what, is that like overclocking?
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> fizyplankton: No, it just means that his system is having to wait for things, so stuff is running slower.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> fizyplankton: Probably not noticably, but if for instance your load was 100, you would definitely notice the sluggishness.
[07:11] <fizyplankton> tonyyarusso: well, if you bogged down a poor proccy with a load of 100, it would probably melt
[07:14] <unique> how can i change wlan0 to eth0 to load by default on boot
[07:14] <unique> i no longer want to use wlan0 as my default network
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> unique: what do you mean "load by default"?
[07:15] <Edijus> User 'stud' have folder 'Edijs' in Desktop. How do I make group 'info3' users to have all permissions to this folder and group 'info4' read-only? Ubuntu 11.04
[07:16] <booh> Why my network doesn't start since I convert to vmware?
[07:16] <unique> tonyyarusso: when i boot my ubuntu, it try to use wlan0 i want it to use eth0
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> unique: it should already use eth0 if there's a cable plugged in.
[07:17] <unique> tonyyarusso: i do not see eth0 in ifconfig only in iwconfig
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> unique: wait, what?  You see eth0 listed in the output of iwconfig?
[07:17] <llutz_> unique: ifconfig -a
[07:18] <booh> but if I do /etc/init.d/networking restart,  I have my network
[07:18] <unique> yes with ifconfig -a i do see it
[07:18] <llutz_> unique: its just down then
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> !info acl | Edijus
[07:22] <Edijus> tonyyarusso: Just apt-get acl, whats next?
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> Edijus: Read the documentation on POSIX access control lists as implemented in Linux filesystems.
[07:27] <nguyenthientam> hello
[07:27] <nguyenthientam> help me , how to show RAM by console on Linux
[07:27] <somsip> nguyenthientam: free
[07:28] <actronix> ïèøè free -m
[07:28] <crizzy> !nounity
[07:28] <dr_willis> !ram
[07:28] <booh> hum... My network isn't working but if I do ifconfig eth0 up and ifconfig lo up my network is working... why that doesn't work at boot?
[07:29] <llutz_> booh: did you change your /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:29] <booh> llutz, should be ok...
[07:29] <actronix> rc.local
[07:29] <llutz_> booh: did you change your /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:29] <booh> yes I changed it but should be ok.
[07:30] <llutz_> booh: "should be" is a pointless statement
[07:30] <llutz_> booh: either its OK or it's not, re-check
[07:32] <xruud> Ubuntu does not start my keyboard nor mouse. I do have a serial connection using minicom. Anything I can do to fix the mouse+key problem?
[07:34] <xruud> By the looks of it the ports do not have power; the keyboard is wireless and normally the transmitter has a led on
[07:34] <dr_willis> what kind of kbrd and mouse?
[07:34] <dr_willis> usb?
[07:34] <xruud> Just some basic wired usb mouse
[07:34] <xruud> both usb
[07:35] <fizyplankton> xruud: are the ports built in to the mobo, or are they on a daughter card
[07:35] <dr_willis> check dmesg output and unplug/plug theback inm
[07:35] <xruud> onto the mobo
[07:35] <xruud> dmesg? is that what I can see in minicom?
[07:35] <fizyplankton> do other devs (flash drives, ipods, etc) work on those or any other ports?
[07:36] <dr_willis> dmesg is aconsole command
[07:36] <xruud> I'd need to check. Right now minicom does not accept my input either, Think I have to enable that first
[07:37] <xruud> haha, looking for the right mount command to mount a ft32 partition. Long time ago I had to use it :P
[07:37] <dr_willis> i ysed to use serial termunals on my linyx box. ages ago
[07:37] <dr_willis> !mount
[07:38] <xruud> dr_willis: it is all I have atm :P
[07:38] <fizyplankton> xruud: sudo mkdir /mnt/asdf;sudo mount -t auto /dev/device /mnt/asdf
[07:38] <Kartagis> how can I reset LANG permanently?
[07:38] <abe> If I would like to have NAP(or PAN) capability from my bluetooth dongle, do I need specific hardware support, or just the NAP service from bluez?
[07:39] <vinlim> start x fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
[07:39] <vinlim> Wats going on
[07:39] <fizyplankton> vinlim: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:40] <vinlim> ^[^H
[07:41] <almoxarife> Kartagis: how do you mean?
[07:41] <fizyplankton> vinlim: write these directions down. press ctrl-alt-f1. log in with your user and pass. type "sudo service gdm stop; sudo service gdm start" then press either ctrl-alt-f7 or f8. i forget
[07:41] <Kartagis> almoxarife: I'd like to set LANG to en_us.UTF-8
[07:42] <xruud> Yeej, got it mounted :P thanks ubottu, fizyplankton
[07:42] <shaxs> Hey all, I am having a heck of a time with samba. I am trying to create a public, easy to access share to stream media to HTPCs on the network running windows 7. Sometimes I can access the linux mediaserver just fine, without needing a u/p. but then it stops working and I have to reboot or restart samba. So in otherwords it is not reliably working and I cannot figure out why. My smb.conf is here http://pastebin.com/NkJaT8iE. Anyone hav
[07:42] <vinlim> fizyplankton: thx mate
[07:42] <fizyplankton> vinlim: did it work?
[07:42] <vinlim> fizyplankton: erm. i gave up b4 ur reply. reinstalling it to ubuntu desktop now :p
[07:43] <xruud> hmmmz, I need to edit boot.scr. GEditgives me a big warning "The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document."
[07:43] <fizyplankton> lol quitter
[07:43] <llutz_> !locale | Kartagis
[07:44] <fizyplankton> xruud: try "cat boot.scr". if it looks fine, then use "nano boot.scr"
[07:44] <dr_willis>  boot.scr?  whats that
[07:44] <almoxarife> Kartagis: oem-config <-- check out this package
[07:44] <vinlim> fizyplankton: hah. time constraint
[07:45] <Edisto> i know this is the wrong room but... is there a way to set nouveau.setmode=0 on windows install... i crash just like ubuntu on installation
[07:45] <xruud> fizyplankton: it looks weird. Is that utf-8?'V�8;NN��J$|
[07:45] <dr_willis> shaxs:  i often find samba works better if i access the server by its ip# instead of its hostname
[07:45] <xruud> dr-willis: it is a file in my boot partition
[07:46] <shaxs> dr_willis in windows how does that address look?
[07:46] <dr_willis>  //123.123.123.123/sharename
[07:46] <dr_willis> i think
[07:46] <fizyplankton> xruud: im using a irc client with plain 7bit ascii encoding. if its not on your keyboard, i cant see it.
[07:46] <fizyplankton> xruud: it may be a binary
[07:47] <xruud> fizyplankton: this is what nano shows: '^E^YV�8;NN��J^@^@^A$^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@|�^@o^E^B^F^@Ubuntu boot script
[07:47] <shaxs> dr_willis its \\xxx.xxx.x.xxx\share actually, but that actually works reliably so far! Thanks!
[07:48] <xruud> fizyplankton: can such files be edited with any other editor? Or shold it be fine even in GEdit. Provided I only change parts I can read
[07:48] <shaxs> thank you sir!
[07:48] <dr_willis> shaxs:  in the past ive had to edit the windows hosts file, and set up static ips on the servers
[07:48] <mikodo> Hey! I forget how to log my conversations... Is the place to look in Xchat in the "Settings" dialogue?
[07:48] <fizyplankton> xruud: i have no idea. i would try going into root then editing the file. you knever know
[07:48] <shaxs> dr_willis well as long as I can setup xbmc to use the ip address over hostname I should be good
[07:48] <dr_willis> xruud:  id suggest using a hex editor.
[07:48] <xruud> already root
[07:49] <fizyplankton> xruud: bad idea
[07:49] <dr_willis> shaxs:  check out boxee someday if you like xbmc also. ;)
[07:50] <dr_willis> shaxs:  you could also use a upnp server to share the files
[07:50] <fizyplankton> xruud: the only times you should ever sudo -i or su is if there is if there is no practical way to sudo-(^i).
[07:50] <shaxs> I have boxxee installed too
[07:50] <shaxs> dr_willis Im about to give up on samba...
[07:50] <shaxs> so maybe unpnp will be better
[07:50] <xruud> dr_willis: installing two hex editors, hoping I can read the files :P
[07:50] <shaxs> if I understand correctly, I need to setup a unpnp server on my linux machine correct?
[07:51] <dr_willis> win7 and samba and even shares on xp/vista have been unreliable for me since vista came out
[07:51] <xruud> fizyplankton: No ideao what you are talking about. I was just editing the file with the root user because I can't edit it otherwise
[07:51] <dr_willis> shaxs:  xbmc/boxee is running on a windows box or linux?
[07:52] <fizyplankton> xruud: anyways. i have 2 projects, a paper, and a book to read before school starts in 3 hours. so why am i on irc? beats me
[07:52] <shaxs> dr_willis xbmc on windows 7
[07:52] <xruud> fizyplankton: your help is appreciated, I just did not understand the last part ;)
[07:52] <dr_willis> boxee i think has its own upnp service if you run boxee on both. xbmc might also
[07:53] <fizyplankton> xruud: sudo will execute the next command as root. sudo -i and su will both log you in as the root user. those are more permanent than  sudo
[07:53] <xruud> dr_willis: your advice is correct I think. I need to strip exactly 72 bytes :P
[07:53] <dr_willis> shaxs:  my fancy 'boxee box' manages to see all the shares on every pc in the house. ones that the win and lin machines have issues with even.. go figure
[07:54] <fizyplankton> xruud: make SURE to make a backup
[07:54] <xruud> fizyplankton: Aaah, that's what you meant
[07:54] <almoxarife> shaxs: the videos are on a linux and the xbmc on a win7, does the win7 see the folder videos/tv on the linux?
[07:54] <dr_willis> backp the backp!
[07:54] <xruud> fizyplankton: I have like three backups
[07:55] <fizyplankton> well on to homework
[07:55] <dr_willis> ive noticed with win7 sometimes it dont want to access the same shares over wireless as it can over wired also.. may be a roter setting
[07:56] <shaxs> almoxarife my issue has been in windows 7, going to network, finding MEDIASERVER and clicking it requires a u/p
[07:56] <shaxs> almoxarife however it seems as if accessing it via IP instead is more reliable
[07:56] <xruud> dr_willis: priceless moment yesterday in the electronic store when I got 3 sd cards (they are the hdd) and the guy at the counter warned me that those cards where less in data retention then the more expensive ones (as if I would ever have sensitive data on an sd card (or owrse, not backupped))
[07:56] <dr_willis> needing to use the ip.. may point to a wins servere issue/conflict
[07:57] <dr_willis> never had a sd card fail yet.. had new ones be bad when opened... ;)
[07:57] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[07:59] <farrukhjon> help, now i use pidgin connected by proxy-server and how set proxy to empathy?
[07:59] <shaxs> dr_willis maybe... I wouldnt know where to start. If you look at my pastebin for my my smb.conf http://pastebin.com/NkJaT8iE it is rather sparse
[07:59] <almoxarife> shaxs: how did you set up the shares on the mediaserver?
[07:59] <shaxs> almoxarife see the pastebin url above
[07:59] <shaxs> I dont want to get kicked and muted again for flooding :)
[07:59] <almoxarife> shaxs: is the mediaserver a desktop?
[07:59] <shaxs> almoxarife yes ubuntu desktop 11.10
[08:00] <shaxs> almoxarife chose desktop as I use sickbeard + sabnzbplus and have no idea how to do that in server using command line only
[08:00] <almoxarife> shaxs: how did you create the share, using nautilus or scriptkiddie?
[08:00] <xruud> dr_willis: also my experience. Even when dropped in hot coffee they still work
[08:01] <xruud> dr_willis: curious if there actuially is a difference between brands....
[08:01] <xruud> dr_willis (except from transfer speeds)
[08:01] <shaxs> almoxarife: I just created a folder and then more or less followed this: http://micheljansen.org/blog/entry/182
[08:03] <almoxarife> shaxs: you didn't add any packages for samba?
[08:03] <mikodo> Nvm, I found where the logging of conversations to disk option is.
[08:03] <inashdeen> hi, is it possible to run sound in plymouth?
[08:03] <filip_> hi all.  I'm accessing a machine under 11.10 via nomachine, and can not pick a session from gdm.  what do I need to set up so that it starts up a full gnome session?  Default 11.10 settings start an abomination shell which doesn't even have window manager.
[08:05] <dr_willis> filip_:  i have heard that the 'nx' has isses with unity
[08:05] <almoxarife> shaxs: lets assume you had a virgin desktop setup, if you right click the folder ( one that you are the owner of) and choose 'sharing' will install the needed packages and set it up without any need to create conf files yourself
[08:05] <dr_willis> ive never had much lck with freenx or the other vairiants
[08:06] <shaxs> almoxarife: originally I did that...right click go to share. Says it needs to download samba. Installs.
[08:06] <filip_> dr_willis: I am not using unity, precisely for that reason.  I want to use 2D gnome.
[08:07] <shaxs> almoxarife: but I couldnt get that to work so I looked for other options
[08:07] <dr_willis> filip_:  perhaps test out some other window managers also. may be it has issues with  the gnome also.
[08:08] <filip_> dr_willis, metacity works but only if I start it manually
[08:08] <filip_> dr_willis, in my 11.04 setup it worked like a charm, and 11.10 suddenly does not.
[08:10] <dr_willis> silly bots having a modefest again
[08:10] <somsip> dr_willis: floobot mating ritual
[08:10] <shaxs> almoxarife: this seems to be working pretty well now using the ip address. Problem now is I cannot connect to windows shares from Linux :)
[08:11] <dr_willis> shaxs:  that can be a windows firewall  setting. ive noticed
[08:11] <almoxarife> shaxs: un-firewall the win7 machine
[08:11] <dr_willis> shaxs:  check out the findsmb and smbtree commands to scan the network
[08:12] <shaxs> dr_willis: linux noob here, not sure how to use those
[08:12] <dr_willis> type in terminal....
[08:12] <dr_willis> for a good time check the samba-doc package/book also
[08:13] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[08:13] <shaxs> firewall off: findsmb does find my windows pc
[08:13] <dr_willis> that puts some books in /usr/share/docs i think
[08:13] <almoxarife> shaxs: turn off firewall on win7 long enough to check if you can acces it from ubuntu
[08:14] <dr_willis> try entering the ip# of the windows box in the filemanager like you did for windows
[08:14] <almoxarife> shaxs: your win7 is running 'public'
[08:14] <dr_willis>   smb://ser.ver.ip.num/sharename
[08:14] <xruud> is there an easy way to find out what command starts an application installed via the software center?
[08:14] <xruud> ghex in this case
[08:15] <shaxs> almoxarife: dr_willis: not sure how to enter addresses in filemanager. Tried to find a way. So I tried using Gigolo to connect and it wont. Going to netwrk in filemanager it is blank
[08:15] <llutz_> xruud: dpkg -L ghex |grep bin
[08:15] <dr_willis> shaxs:  just type it in the address bar... ctrl-l to show it if its not visible
[08:16] <xruud> llutz: thanks, it is ghex2!
[08:16] <shaxs> dr_willis" lol the cntrl+l thing is what I needed
[08:16] <dr_willis> ghex[tab]   ;)
[08:17] <dr_willis> nautilus 101 ;)
[08:17] <ssfdre38> where is the MySQL header files located at?
[08:18] <shaxs> dr_willis: says cannot display XXXXXXXX. Error: Failed to mount windows share.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: ask in #mysql too :-)
[08:18] <shaxs> doesnt even seem like it tries. Does it as soo nas I press enter
[08:19] <ssfdre38> ActionParsnip, im using the Ubuntu distro of MySQL so it has to be done here
[08:19] <dr_willis> could always try the smbfs/monting it by hand..
[08:19] <Browser> Buenas
[08:19] <dr_willis> !info smbfs
[08:19] <dr_willis> smbfs is installed?
[08:19] <shaxs> not sure Ill try apt-get
[08:20] <dr_willis> bb in 20 min
[08:20] <shaxs> okay
[08:21] <almoxarife> shaxs: did you install samba manually?
[08:21] <shaxs> no, when I originally right clicked on the folder and went to share, Ubuntu told me I needed to install samba and it did it all for me
[08:22] <almoxarife> shaxs: the folder you are sharing within ubuntu is in your home folder?
[08:23] <shaxs> almoxarife: yes/ home/user/videos/tv
[08:23] <almoxarife> shaxs: 'users' ??
[08:24] <almoxarife> shaxs: 'user' ??
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> shaxs: if you run:  smbtree   do you see the share?
[08:24] <shaxs> almoxarife: no its /home/jason/videos/tv
[08:25] <shaxs> no, smbtree command errors out
[08:25] <paissad> guys, when i type $HOME and press TAB, the text is changed to \$HOME ... but i don't want to have the backslash ...
[08:25] <paissad> is there a way to avoid this ?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> shaxs: what is the error??
[08:26] <shaxs> says: failed negprot: ERRnomem
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> shaxs: is that "bad credentials"?
[08:27] <arief1301> hi
[08:27] <shaxs> almoxarife: I dont think so...ive tried multiple times
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Hi arief1301
[08:28] <arief1301> is there anything that could help the problem rarcrack?
[08:30] <almoxarife> shaxs: since makilg all the changes, have you rebooted the ubuntu machine?
[08:31] <shaxs> its been rebooted multiple times tonight, jsut not in the last 2 hours or so
[08:31] <almoxarife> shaxs: since you made the 'samba' mods have you rebooted?
[08:31] <shaxs> almoxarife: no I just restart the samba server
[08:32] <Metroshica> tem alguem aqui que fala portugues?
[08:32] <llutz_> !pt
[08:32] <Metroshica> thanks
[08:32] <almoxarife> Metroshica: por nada
[08:33] <almoxarife> shaxs: try reboot and then the smbtree command
[08:34] <shaxs> almoxarife: I was hoping not to reboot as I have 200gb being transferred from my external hard drive to my internal. Transferring over my tv library from my main windows 7 pc to the new linux mediaserver.
[08:35] <almoxarife> shaxs: that's fine,
[08:35] <hilarie> Is this the place for stupid questions regarding a server install? How do I edit text files with no GUI?
[08:35] <almoxarife> shaxs: can you verify the samba is actually running?
[08:35] <shaxs> almoxarife: Ill try in the morning. At this point, I got the biggest issue solved: getting access on the windows pcs to the linux server using IP
[08:35] <llutz_> hilarie:" nano file"  nano is an editor
[08:35] <shaxs> almoxarife: I would think so, I can access the linux share through the IP
[08:36] <llutz_> hilarie: use "sudo nano  ..." if you need root-permission to edit
[08:36] <hilarie> llutz_ use nano like I would gedit?
[08:36] <almoxarife> shaxs: that's right, it has to be
[08:36] <hilarie> llutz_ ty, wish me luck
[08:38] <shaxs> almoxarife: yeah the weird part now is not being able to access smb shares on windows fron linux.
[08:39] <hilarie> Should SSH by default only allow connections from localhost, or is there something wrong with my router?
[08:39] <almoxarife> shaxs: when you say 'access the share thru ip' what machine is doing the accessing of what IP?
[08:39] <llutz_> hilarie: theres no such limitation by default
[08:39] <hilarie> well crap
[08:40] <MK`> Is there a way to boost my volume past 150%? These headphones are too low.
[08:40] <shaxs> almoxarife: windows main pc and windows htpc1, are accessing the linux media server via ip/sharename
[08:41] <hilarie> shaxs you could use your name of your computer instead of IP that would make it so DHCP doesn't mess with everything every reboot
[08:41] <sandy19> hello i want to know why compiz is not working on my ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:42] <shaxs> hilarie: thats been another issue. Trying to access the linux share through name of computer keeps asking me for a u/p. If I do it through IP I connect find
[08:43] <sandy19> can anyone help me with the compiz issue?
[08:43] <shaxs> *fine
[08:44] <nixmaniack> how can i apply patches to Ubuntu mainline kernel builds?
[08:45] <almoxarife> shaxs: using machine names requires those same machines having 'hosts' files with all the names for the different ips, you may be better off with ip's as long as the ips are static
[08:46] <shaxs> almoxarife: ah, that makes sense. Might be easier to assign a static IP through the router. Maybe.
[08:46] <shaxs> Or I can edit the host file on each machine
[08:46] <sandy19> please help me shaxs :(
[08:46] <almoxarife> shaxs: you definitely want to keep those ips static or you will go ape shit keeping up with dhcp
[08:47] <shaxs> almoxarife: haha true true. Ill do that tomorrow
[08:47] <shaxs> sandy19: um, I am not sure I can. I am not linux guru
[08:47] <almoxarife> sandy19: compiz doing what?
[08:48] <shaxs> almoxarife: thanks for your help. Ive been having fun (albeit a ltitle frustrated) time learning linux for the first time. I appreciate your help with this neophyte
[08:48] <sandy19> almoxarife i have installed compiz on my ubuntu 11.10
[08:48] <sandy19> but it's not working
[08:48] <almoxarife> shaxs: I kept xbmc on the same machine as the video library
[08:48] <cowslapper> You do know that Ubuntu users have all been tricked into using a OS for smartphones and Tablets right?
[08:48] <cowslapper> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/102599-ubuntu-14-04-will-be-a-smartphone-and-tablet-os-so-what
[08:48] <shaxs> almoxarife: I ahve two htpcs. One upstairs and one down in my bedroom.
[08:48] <llutz_> cowslapper: you do know that you are offtopic?
[08:49] <almoxarife> shaxs: sweet
[08:49] <shaxs> almoxarife: so I need a way to share that across multiple machines. Plus this way it gives me an excuse to build a linux machine ;)
[08:50] <almoxarife> sandy19: ok, what is broke?
[08:50] <sandy19> not i doesn't broke , when i try to use water effect , nothing happens , i configure it
[08:50] <sandy19> @ almoxarife
[08:50] <cowslapper> llutz_ are you a developer? I am. Just installed Debian (wheezy), lightdm, xfce, compiz with emerald. Mark is having problems getting devs to make his apps
[08:50] <llutz_> cowslapper: you do know that you are offtopic?
[08:51] <Waldii> sry for offtopic but is there a good channel for reverse engineerer?
[08:51] <llutz_> !ot | cowslapper
[08:51] <cowslapper> llutz_ are you a bot or just a retard?
[08:51] <almoxarife> sandy19: water effect?
[08:51] <llutz_> cowslapper: discuss your stuff whereever you want, just not here
[08:52] <sandy19> yes in compizconfig setting manager > effect > water effect
[08:52] <sandy19> @ almoxarife
[08:52] <shaxs> almoxarife: well I am going to call it a night.... thanks again. Maybe I will see you around again soon
[08:52] <almoxarife> shaxs: see ya, good luck
[08:53] <almoxarife> sandy19: I don't know why one effect would not work, all effects work or don't work?
[08:53] <sandy19> none of effect work :( @ almoxarife
[08:54] <cowslapper> sandy19 for you video composting what wm are you using? Thought fusion only supported Metacity, Emerald and kde wm?
[08:54] <hje841> my ocelot stops booting after loading my webserver. any idea why?
[08:54] <sandy19> what is wm ? @ cowslapper
[08:55] <cowslapper> sandy windows manager for the Unity DE
[08:55] <cowslapper> Does Unity even use Metacity anymore?
[08:55] <sandy19> @ cowslapper i don't know what do you want to say , but i am using ubuntu 11.10
[08:56] <inashdeen> hi, i need some advice. what is the worst thing could happen if we use cairo-dock on a computer without hardware acceleration
[08:56] <llutz_> unity is a compiz-plugin
[08:57] <almoxarife> inashdeen: I use it without hardware acce.,,,, works fine here
[08:57] <cowslapper> inashdeen, it wont work is the worst thing.
[08:57] <inashdeen> almoxarife: thanx
[08:57] <inashdeen> cowslapper: nice one, thanx
[08:57] <almoxarife> inashdeen: worse thing? high cpu usage? I don't see that either though
[08:58] <hje841> why does my 11.10 stops boot after loading my webserver?
[08:58] <inashdeen> almoxarife: so it is pretty stable now???
[08:58] <sandy19> sorry i don't know which version is this
[08:58] <almoxarife> inashdeen: I am using the unstable even, works for me
[08:59] <inashdeen> hi gusy, need some aid, anyone having notification applet right click problem on ubuntu 11.10? anyone know how to get it fixed
[08:59] <cowslapper> What does the graphics stack use on Ubuntu. Did they dump Metacity windows manager?
[08:59] <inashdeen> almoxarife: what is the difference with the stable version?
[08:59] <sandy19> Nvidia
[08:59] <almoxarife> inashdeen: using cairo-dock on gnome shell, the unstable should break?
[09:00] <inashdeen> almoxarife: ok, thanx again. i just plan to run it on unity
[09:00] <cowslapper> Linus Torvalds - If you design a system for idiots then idiots will use it.
[09:01] <almoxarife> sandy19: I can't think of a thing to tell you that would be of help, its one of those issues that unless you really know well you are useless, sorry to say, I stopped using compiz because I never 'got it'
[09:03] <sandy19> ok almoxarife i know i am noob in this. Well thanks for your time. :)
[09:03] <almoxarife> sandy19: I meant I was the the noob of compiz
[09:04] <sandy19> oh almoxarife :) thanks anyways , well shall i post this question on Ubuntu forums?
[09:04] <almoxarife> sandy19: it's a thought
[09:05] <yagoo> almoxarife, compiz worked for me on x platforms.. i never saw the use of a dumb flippin square
[09:05] <zetheroo> I am just trying to make a video to upload onto youtube ... but its such a trip in Ubuntu ... I bought a Quickcam Pro 9000 and it works in Cheese ... however Cheese seems extremely buggy and has yet to output a single video that is not damaged in some way! Also Cheese crashes from time to time ... does anyone know of a better app than Cheese to record webcam video with?
[09:06] <yagoo> zetheroo: try google:"list of webcam software linux site:wikipedia.org"
[09:07] <almoxarife> yagoo: I used one thing of compiz, multiple windows, I loved having 9 windows to play with, since moving to 11.10 and sticking to gnome shell, I can open windows as needed, I tossed compiz
[09:08] <hje841> my ubuntu stops when starting up just after loading my webserver. any ideas?
[09:08] <zetheroo> yagoo: I am kinda hoping to hear from someone who knows of a possible solution  ;)
[09:09] <deej1976> zetheroo: Cheesy?
[09:09] <deej1976> !info cheesy
[09:09] <almoxarife> hje841: the webserver was an addition and ubuntu worked fine prior to the addittion ?
[09:09] <deej1976> !info cheese
[09:10] <yagoo> zetheroo, you tried updating your libraries? apt-get update, apt-get upgrade?
[09:10] <almoxarife> zetheroo: install 'vlc' and record it with vlc
[09:10] <zetheroo> yagoo: yep ... these issues are what I experience on 3 laptops  ... all running Ubuntu 11.10
[09:10] <deej1976> zetheroo: apt-cache search webcam, quiet a lot there
[09:11] <zetheroo> almoxarife: I have VLC ... I'll look into that ...
[09:11] <sandy19> Hello please help me i posted my problem on ubuntu forum
[09:11] <almoxarife> zetheroo: forget cheese
[09:11] <sandy19> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11467779
[09:12] <sandy19> please read my problem and try to help me
[09:12] <zetheroo> almoxarife: yeah, I am pretty pissed with it right now ... total waste of time ...
[09:12] <ic56> !info xchat
[09:12] <hje841> almoxarife: i dont think my webserver is the problem. the initial problem was that it wouldnt mount  any of my disk parts
[09:12] <Zpix> Hi all
[09:12] <zetheroo> almoxarife: so in VLC how do you record?
[09:12] <Zpix> I can't shutdown my ubuntu 11.10
[09:13] <tolmun> oahi
[09:13] <ic56> Zpix: what exactly are you unable to do?
[09:14] <Zpix> ic56: when I want to shutdown my system it goes to login page!
[09:14] <ruby_on_tails> ok so i did a very brave job, uninstalled dbus from my ubuntu machine, half of my apps stopped working, what do i do now ?
[09:15] <ruby_on_tails> i closed the terminal while the dbus uninstallation was working
[09:15] <ic56> Zpix: what are you clicking on to shutdown?
[09:16] <ruby_on_tails> what should i do now ? :((((((
[09:16] <Zpix> ic56: from the panel, shutdown
[09:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Hey guys, anyone have experience with gnome-shell
[09:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ?
[09:17] <llutz_> ruby_on_tails: reinstall dbus?
[09:18] <dr_willis> with what part of gnome shell...
[09:18] <ic56> Zpix: help me get this straight.  From the top panel, you click on system, from the drop down menu you click on shutdown, then you get a pop-up window.  Right so far?
[09:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> editing /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css
[09:19] <dr_willis> .css shold be a text file.. so whats the issue?
[09:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dr_willis: i'm trying to change nautilus's background color and hopefully throw in some transparency
[09:19] <Zpix> ic56: yes in unity, just like others. and after clicking shutdown, it comes back to login page
[09:19] <ruby_on_tails> llutz_: i cant it says dbus is already the newest version.
[09:19] <llutz_> ruby_on_tails: sudo apt-get install --reinstall dbus
[09:19] <jonsaint> hi all. can anyone tell me where i can get ubuntu screensavers from please.
[09:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dr_willis: but the *.css is huge...don't know where to find where to edit
[09:20] <almoxarife> Us3r_Unfriendly: good luck with that, and if you manage it please share, I was told there is a bug
[09:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> almoxarife: thanks
[09:20] <dr_willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  ive no idea either. the gnome theme sites may have some info.
[09:21] <dr_willis> i just try ot other gnome shell themes till i found one i liked
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dr_willis: i've tried there along with their irc server, with no luck.  Seems like they life the day shift life
[09:21] <ic56> Zpix: so, from the pop-up window you click on the shutdown button.  This causes the screen to go a little dark, then you get a message that says shutting down?
[09:22] <Zpix> ic56: no it comes back to login page no message
[09:22] <ic56> Zpix: but it does go dark?
[09:22] <amirwebdev2> hey, how do i in ubuntu remove completely apache2 and his configs files ?
[09:23] <Zpix> ic56: yes just a second
[09:23] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: sudo apt-get purge apache2
[09:23] <evfool> hi
[09:23] <inashdeen> is there a way to make cairo dock looks like this?? http://imgur.com/Ktm9m  + why when i click on the wireless connection icon on notification area it doubles?
[09:24] <amirwebdev2> Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed
[09:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dr_willis: I actually like how GNOME Shell 3.2.1 looks.  It goes well with how I used to run 2.32.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMF3dBoaGx8&hd=1  if your interested
[09:24] <amirwebdev2> but i  got data in /etc/apache
[09:24] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: dpkg -l '*apache*' |grep ^i
[09:25] <evfool> I would need some help with booting Ubuntu on a PC with an AMD APU processor, but the screen turns off after grub, and is never turned back on... though Ubuntu seems to boot, as there is activity, only the display is not on
[09:25] <Viktor> hay
[09:25] <ic56> Zpix: perhaps your username lacks permission to shutdown.  Are you using the username that was created when the OS was installed
[09:25] <yagoo> evfool, can u boot in recovery option?
[09:26] <amirwebdev2> there is nothing
[09:26] <Zpix> ic56: yes i do
[09:26] <evfool> yagoo: no, I did not get to install Ubuntu yet
[09:26] <evfool> yagoo: started from livedisk
[09:26] <amirwebdev2> but if i ls -lh /etc/apache2 i got files there
[09:26] <evfool> yagoo: tried noacpi, nomodeset, etc
[09:26] <yagoo> evfool, uhh.. what are you talkng about? your friend's computer or your install cd going bad?
[09:26] <evfool> yagoo: with nomodeset I get to a console,
[09:27] <nikilop> hallo
[09:27] <evfool> yagoo: no, a new PC, trying to install Ubuntu on it, but it doesn't seem to be possible :)
[09:27] <nikilop> ghermany ?
[09:27] <yagoo> evfool, did u try the options on the boot screen?
[09:28] <yagoo> evfool, can u get to the boot screen? (Install option menu)
[09:28] <Viktor> i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS ,even when i`m online any help?
[09:28] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: did you remove an former installed apache without purge-option? if no apache is installed now, it shoul dbe safe just to remove those files (but why do you bother about them?)
[09:28] <amirwebdev2> ?
[09:28] <ic56> Zpix: that username should have permission to shutodnw but one can remove permissions from a username.  Perhaps you are running a program which is failing to exit.  That could be causing the GUI to refuse to shutdown.
[09:28] <amirwebdev2> ok
[09:28] <yagoo> evfool, ok.. just a sec..
[09:28] <nikilop> hi guys
[09:28] <amirwebdev2> i want to make a fresh clean install
[09:28] <julius_> hi
[09:28] <amirwebdev2> with the default config
[09:28] <amirwebdev2> of apache
[09:28] <Zpix> ic56: so how can I found that program?
[09:28] <julius_> where can i disable the mail notification symbol in the upper right corner ob ubuntu 11.10?
[09:28] <evfool> yagoo: yes, I get to the LiveCD menu, can toggle boot options, can edit grub entries, etc
[09:29] <amirwebdev2> how can i do that
[09:29] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help ?
[09:29] <amirwebdev2> if i do without the grep
[09:29] <amirwebdev2> i get rc  apache2.2-common     2.2.17-1ubuntu1.2    Apache HTTP Server common files
[09:29] <yagoo> evfool, apm=off OR noapm , acpi.power_nocheck=1 OR acpi_osi=linux   ?
[09:29] <amirwebdev2> rc  libapache2-mod-php5  5.3.5-1ubuntu7.3     server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (A
[09:29] <amirwebdev2> etc
[09:30] <nikilop> bay bay
[09:30] <yagoo> evfool, oh that's the live cd..
[09:30] <amirwebdev2> un  apache2              <none>               (no description available)
[09:30] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: rc = "removed but configs exist"
[09:30] <zetheroo> whats the command to force a non 64bit app to install in a 64bit environment?
[09:30] <ic56> Zpix: the best way is to try to do a shutdown from a command line.  Then you can see any error messages which the GUI is hiding from you.  Do this:  hit control-alt-F1.  This will get you to a console session with a login prompt.  Login with your usual username and password.  Then type: sudo shutdown now
[09:30] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:30] <yagoo> evfool, i believe they make the installer's have a live-try feature nways.. try downloading the cd more oriented for installing
[09:30] <Zpix> ic56: ok let me try it
[09:30] <ic56> Zpix: then watch for any error messages displayed by the shutdown program.
[09:30] <schu> hi there. i have ubuntu 10.10 running and today i added another hdd, which i want to automount via fstab - so i have added the following to my fstab, but when i run mount -a the current user (not root) has no rights... can anybody help me out? http://pastebin.com/sQuhxjSp
[09:31] <yagoo> evfool, your machine 32-bit or 64-bit?
[09:31] <evfool> yagoo: I can't boot into the try it option neither
[09:31] <Zpix> ic56: i'll come back, thanks
[09:31] <yagoo> evfool, your machine 32-bit or 64-bit?
[09:31] <basheer_> tell him
[09:31] <ic56> Zpix: good luck!
[09:31] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:31] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:31] <kevo> hi guys
[09:31] <kevo> everyone german
[09:32] <kevo> ?
[09:32] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:32] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:32] <Viktor>  i cannot connect IR 1020 printer from CUPS on 10.04 ,even when i`m online any help
[09:32] <llutz_> !repeat | Viktor stop that
[09:33] <llutz_> schu: you have to chown/chmod that filesystem to set the permissions/ownership you want
[09:33] <deej1976> !germany | kevo
[09:33] <hilarie> can I do 777 on a chmod?
[09:33] <llutz_> hilarie: you dont want that
[09:34] <schu> llutz_: thx
[09:34] <evfool> yagoo: it should be 64bit, a recent 4core  AMD
[09:34] <ic56> hilarie: yes, certainly you can.  Whether that is the right choice depends on what you are trying to achieev.
[09:34] <hilarie> I am mounting my external hard drive on samba
[09:34] <yagoo> evfool, which cd/dvd u downloaded?
[09:34] <evfool> 64
[09:34] <hilarie> and I want anyone on my network to be able to read and write
[09:34] <yagoo> evfool, what link?
[09:34] <evfool> yagoo :64bit LiveCD for Oneiric
[09:35] <dr_willis> hilarie: what fs is the drive
[09:35] <hilarie> ntfs
[09:35] <evfool> yagoo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download -> 64bit Oneiric
[09:35] <yagoo> evfool, did u download from this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ?
[09:35] <evfool> yagoo: yep
[09:35] <schu> llutz_: did that but i still can't open the location and create folders or files...
[09:35] <yagoo> evfool, did u md5sum check it?
[09:35] <llutz_> schu: then you did it wrong
[09:35] <ic56> hilarie: do you mean you are exporting the hard drive from linux box?
[09:36] <hilarie> sharing via samba
[09:36] <Bikako> so how do i remove the config
[09:36] <hilarie> from ubuntu server
[09:36] <Bikako> just rm
[09:36] <Bikako> ?
[09:36] <evfool> yagoo: no, but I'll do it now
[09:36] <dr_willis> hilarie:  you will most likely need to make a fstab entry for it with the right umask opton
[09:36] <ic56> hilarie: from ubuntu server to windows clients?
[09:36] <hilarie> ic56 yes
[09:36] <schu> llutz_: i did chmod 777 on the location under /mnt and then mount -a
[09:37] <dr_willis> hilarie: then edit smb.conf to make the share
[09:37] <Bikako> i got ubuntu 11.4
[09:37] <Bikako> desktop
[09:37] <ic56> hilarie: I am not sure whether setting global write permission is necessary, but, given what you are trying to achive, it certainly would do no harm.
[09:37] <amirwebdev2> (its amirwebdev)
[09:37] <hilarie> I know I will have to fstab it at some point, just trying to hack it together at this point, and I am using webmin to do all of this and it wants to know create with permissions:
[09:37] <llutz_> schu: you also dont want that :) mount that filesystem, then chgrp it to a group all users need access are member. then chmod g+w
[09:37] <dr_willis> hilarie: webmin is not reccomended
[09:37] <yagoo> evfool, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:38] <hilarie> Dr. Willis, why is that?
[09:38] <dr_willis> !webmin
[09:38] <yacc> Hi! Any idea what I need to do to make an USB stick (onto which I installed 11.10 with bootloader in the MBR) bootable. As is it hangs after the showing selecting an entry in the grub menu
[09:38] <zetheroo> wow, I never thought attempting to record your webcam could be such a drama in the 20th century :P
[09:38] <llutz_> schu: sudo mount /mnt/LinuxData,  sudo chgrp -R users /mnt/LinuxData , sudo chmod -R 775 /mnt/LinuxData
[09:38] <amok_> zetheroo, ?
[09:38] <hilarie> but.. but... I don't like the CLI
[09:38] <evfool> yagoo: md5sum is ok
[09:38] <yagoo> evfool, btw.. you may want to check if you can set hpet to 64-bit.. i'm just making a wildguess as a last resort..
[09:39] <Zpix> ic56: everything was ok but there was an error !
[09:39] <amok_> what CLI is?
[09:39] <yagoo> evfool, (in bios)
[09:39] <hilarie> Is there something better then webmin then?
[09:39] <schu> llutz_: ah ok - now it works! thx for the help!
[09:39] <llutz_> schu: then add all users needing access to the "users" group
[09:39] <amirwebdev2> back
[09:39] <amirwebdev2> sorry
[09:39] <dr_willis> hilarie: all i can say is get over it...
[09:39] <ic56> Zpix: good.  What was the error?
[09:39] <amirwebdev2> so what is the solution how do i remove the config from apache marked as rc in dpkg
[09:39] <Zpix> ic56: Will now switch to single-user mode (fail)
[09:39] <dr_willis> !ebox | hilarie
[09:39] <zetheroo> amok_: heh ... nothing works well ... Cheese has yet to put out a video that does not have some sort of issue ... and I cannot find a single other usable alternative ...
[09:39] <hilarie> Your a pretty lady Dr. Willis
[09:40] <dr_willis> tell that to my wife..
[09:40] <yagoo> evfool, btw you burned dvd's , and used the same type of optical brand on the boot system?
[09:40] <yagoo> ,/or cd's?/(and of the same brand)
[09:40] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: sudo spkg --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:40] <llutz_> amirwebdev2:sry,  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:41] <yagoo> evfool, a common problem with optical cd/dvd's.. is knowing from experience what brand works well on your drive/s
[09:41] <hilarie> How do I remove webmin before it messes something up? I've yet to do anything with it other then look at graphs
[09:41] <zetheroo> amok_: I tried VLC, but it's another 2-5 hours of reading and mucking around that I don't have ... then I tried wxCam ... won't install because I have 64bit Ubuntu ... then I tried running Guvcview but it's not even opening ... :P ... utterly hopeless
[09:41] <evfool> yagoo: the CD works, as the PC can read it
[09:41] <amirwebdev2>  rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2-common.postrm
[09:41] <evfool> yagoo: DVD
[09:41] <amirwebdev2> should i do that also?
[09:41] <dr_willis> hilarie: how did you install webmin
[09:41] <julius_> where can i disable the mail notification symbol in the upper right corner ob ubuntu 11.10?
[09:41] <yagoo> evfool, which PC?
[09:41] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: let dpkg clean that up, don't remove manually
[09:41] <evfool> yagoo: noapm doesn't help
[09:41] <hilarie> added it to my repos and sudo apt-get webmin
[09:41] <yagoo> evfool, the installing pc?
[09:41] <ic56> Zpix: that error is not what I expected.  Try it again, this time use sudo shutdown -h now  (i.e. add the -h option, which tells it to halt, rather than go to single user mode.)  Let's see if this fails too.
[09:41] <evfool> yagoo: the one I am trying to install to
[09:42] <dr_willis> hilarie: use apt to remove it then
[09:42] <yagoo> evfool, so what errors are you getting?
[09:42] <Zpix> ic56: ok
[09:42] <zetheroo> I thought Ubuntu had webcams pretty much covered ... :-/
[09:42] <_dj_> i want to install windows with ubuntu
[09:42] <Zpix> ic56: let me try
[09:42] <hilarie> sudo apt-get remove webmin?
[09:42] <_dj_> but i m geting problems
[09:42] <yagoo> _dj_, so download wubi..
[09:42] <_dj_> wubi? whats that?
[09:42] <evfool> yagoo: no errors, the monitor turns off when plymouth should start, and never turns back on
[09:42] <schu> llutz_: since my base partition is really full (and i can't get more space there) - would it be possible to move the /home directory to my new partition and have a link so my /home/<user> dirs point to /mnt/LinuxData/home/<user> instead ?
[09:42] <_dj_> and i have already installed ubuntu 11.10
[09:43] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  i find webcams either work out of the box.. or are totally unsupported..
[09:43] <_dj_> now i wanna install windows too
[09:43] <yagoo> evfool, do you have two vga ports? make sure vga port#1 is being used
[09:43] <evfool> yagoo: and there is CPU and disk activity, so I guess Ubuntu is started, but the VGA port seems to be turned off
[09:43] <zetheroo> dr_willis: mine works ootb ... but it just seems that Cheese is extremely buggy ...
[09:43] <evfool> yagoo: only one VGA port
[09:43] <amirwebdev2> its still saved me after i did it the old sites-avilable
[09:43] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  but the few webcams ive had with no spport . seem to get spport in the next release
[09:43] <yagoo> evfool, let me check smthing
[09:44] <kanhiya> how to fix duplicate entries in Open with other application dialog
[09:44] <dr_willis> my silly u key is messing up.. ;(
[09:44] <llutz_> schu: yes, better to be done from live-cd than from running system. move your /home to that new filesystem, then change /etc/fstab, add a line at the end "/mnt/LinuxData/home /home  bind none 0 0"
[09:45] <schu> llutz_: great, thx
[09:45] <amirwebdev2> wierd
[09:45] <hilarie> Whats with the floodbots freaking out?
[09:45] <kanhiya> there are two entries for remote desktop, four entries for glade, Wine also have created so many entries, How to remove all these entries
[09:46] <kanhiya> duplicate Ofcourse
[09:46] <kanhiya> :)
[09:46] <hilarie> Dr. Willis, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/2.2/ubuntu lucid main isn't the lucid part about that wrong? shouldn't it have the codename of 11.10?
[09:47] <llutz_> hilarie: it should
[09:48] <amirwebdev2> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies
[09:48] <Zpix> ic56: without any error just in 3 seconds, system shut down
[09:48] <amirwebdev2> i do on synaptic complete removal its tells me there is broken packages
[09:48] <evfool> yagoo: just reported a bug on this thing
[09:48] <yagoo> evfool, yikes
[09:48] <yagoo> evfool, btw.. what pc model is this?
[09:49] <ic56> Zpix: hmm.  Now that the system has rebooted, are you still unable to shutdown from the GUI?
[09:49] <Zpix> ic56: unfortunately yes :(
[09:49] <evfool> yagoo: it's not a brandname, but a custom one  assemb led from selected parts
[09:49] <evfool> yagoo: components
[09:49] <yagoo> evfool, what's the motherboard?
[09:50] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:50] <evfool> yagoo: GigaByte a75m-ud2h
[09:50] <Zpix> ic56: whats ur idea about making a new user?
[09:50] <schu> llutz_: i tried this with another directory (for testing i moved a document directory to my new hdd) but when running mount -a it says "unknown fs type bind" o.O
[09:51] <ic56> Zpix: ok.  At least we know where the blockage is: the GUI is trying to shutdown to single user, and this returns failure.
[09:51] <Zpix> ic56: ya
[09:51] <llutz_> schu: my bad, it's other way round "/mnt/LinuxData/home /home none  bind 0 0"
[09:51] <evfool> yagoo: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3928#ov
[09:51] <yagoo> evfool, you sure your processor is 64bit? it doesnt look mainstream
[09:52] <ic56> Zpix: I think the problem is one of two things:  Either the files under /etc/rcS.d/  have been somehow broken or else
[09:52] <ulen> Hello I am running Ubuntu 10.04, and up until recentely my NVIDIA 3d party drivers have been working wonders. Now they simply disappeared and I can see any items in the hardwire drivers program. How Do i Reinstall my NVIDIA drivers?
[09:52] <ulen> *cant
[09:52] <ic56> Zpix: you are running some kind of daemon which refuses to die under normal circuimstances.
[09:52] <schu> llutz_: ok i could've seen that too ^^
[09:52] <Zpix> ic56: hmmmm
[09:53] <zetheroo> ok I got Guvcview started and tried to record but I get this message in the terminal right before the program crashes: "[mp2 @ 0x18d14a0] codec type or id mismatches"
[09:53] <Zpix> ic56: before this error I installed Conky and Airtime and have an system update
[09:53] <ic56> Zpix: a failure of this kind in a daemon would not be caused by a software bug; it would be the result of some kind of lock up between the daemon and some resource on which it depends.  The kernel itself would be getting stuck on it.
[09:53] <Zpix> ic56: then I remove airtime and conky
[09:53] <yagoo> evfool, you should ask #kernel about your processor..
[09:54] <ic56> Zpix: yes, new software could be causing this.  Do try to apt-get remoev airtime conky and see if that fixes it.  You can always apt-get install them after if that doesn't fix the problem.
[09:54] <evfool> yagoo: I'll try to do that... can't find anything on the net about the processor
[09:54] <evfool> yagoo: regarding whether it's 32 or 64bit
[09:54] <yagoo> evfool, maybe an bios upgrade can help.. also i would try the 32bit edition.. (btw there's an upgrade for your bios)
[09:54] <yagoo> evfool, "Update CPU code" "Improve DDR compatibility"
[09:55] <yagoo> evfool, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3928#bios (assuming u have rev 1)
[09:56] <evfool> yagoo: it's 64bit
[09:57] <amirwebdev2> anyone help?
[09:58] <yagoo> evfool, i know its 64bit.. but there's a bios update.. also the um linux kernel may work better at 32-bit with ur processor at the moment.. it's also why i mention #kernel..
[09:58] <julius_> where can i disable the mail notification symbol in the upper right corner ob ubuntu 11.10?
[09:58] <hilarie> has anyone here had any luck install zentyal on 11.10?
[09:58]  * conntrack yawns
[09:58] <evfool> yagoo: just downloading the 32bit to see whether that helps
[09:59]  * conntrack laughs evilly
[09:59] <yagoo> evfool, btw the processor's full model is what?
[10:00] <yagoo> evfool, because there's an update to the CPU code in the bios
[10:00] <yagoo> ok
[10:00] <evfool> yagoo: AMD A6-3650
[10:02] <yagoo> evfool, "(Note 3 ) To use the onboard D-Sub, DVI、Display port or HDMI, must install an AMD CPU with integrated graphics."  http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3928#sp
[10:02] <yagoo> evfool, you should update your bios
[10:03] <yagoo> evfool, latest ver is f5..
[10:04] <snufft> hey guys
[10:04] <snufft> does anyone have a moment to lend me a hand setting up MPD? i've installed it, but I can't connect to it from any client :S
[10:08] <CaptainQuirk> HI : I'm having a weird issue on ubuntu 10.04. A segmentation fault appears in my apache error.log when accessing a specific url. How can I get more debug info ?
[10:11] <evfool> yagoo: I have an AMP CPU with integrated graphics
[10:12] <yagoo> evfool, check my mpm
[10:12] <yagoo> evfool, my pm
[10:12] <tolmun> hey, the experience runing lucid on compaq8510p is fantastic :^)
[10:17] <a34154ek> anyone know how to boot windows xp iso from grub 2?
[10:20] <a34154ek> noone?
[10:20] <dr_willis> a34154ek:  it m ay not be possible
[10:21] <dr_willis> ask in #windows perhaps
[10:21] <a34154ek> dr_willis i knw its entirely possible for linux distros, but m not sure about windows...
[10:22] <llutz_> a34154ek: windows != linux, ask in #windows
[10:22] <a34154ek> llutz_: yeah ill do that...thnx for ur help the other day, im running my ubuntu just fine coz of u
[10:23] <Jonii> Is there a fix to the bug that if you allow using multiple keyboard layouts, most of the time is you see the layout name somewhere, it's wrong, and most of the time ctrl-<a key> type of shortcuts use different layout than simply pressing those keys, however, in such way that _occasionally_ they do use the same
[10:23] <dr_willis> a34154ek:  its possible for some distros..
[10:26] <tonysan> Can I echo a message before some command? eg. if I ls, a message says "Current directory\n" then the content of ls ?
[10:27] <llutz_> tonysan: echo this dir has $(ls -l)
[10:27] <tonysan> could it be aliased?
[10:27] <yagoo> tonysan, you can echo * , and it'll show directory contents
[10:28] <llutz_> tonysan: you would create a function, aliase won't work iirc
[10:29] <tonysan> OK thanks
[10:36] <snufft> i'm having a bit of trouble connecting to MPD over lan. i'm guessing it's a firewall or something, because i can connect on the same machine using GMPC. i just can't connect to anything on my android phone or tablet..
[10:37] <llutz_> snufft: does mpd listen on external iface at all? netstat -tulpen |grep mpd
[10:37] <llutz_> snufft: any iptables-rules filtering that port? sudo iptables -L
[10:38] <llutz_> sudo netstat.... *
[10:39] <snufft> llutz_: mpd runs on localhost:6600 cheking iptables now
[10:39] <llutz_> snufft: localhost != external iface, there you are
[10:39] <snufft> llutz_: ahh, ok. so do i have to map it somehow?
[10:40] <llutz_> snufft: configure mpd correctly, it should have a setting for that
[10:40] <snufft> llutz_: or would it be a case of giving the machine a static ip, then binding mpd to that ip?
[10:40] <llutz_> snufft: it a mpd-config thing
[10:40] <snufft> llutz_: haha, ok. mpd config round 35 :P
[10:40] <snufft> llutz_: thank you very much for your help :)
[10:41] <llutz_> snufft: man mpd.config or however it's called. should be documened somewhere
[10:41] <snufft> llutz_: no worries mate, thanks again :)
[10:42] <bullgard4> How can I determine the set of alternatives in Debian's alternatives system that installed on my Oneiric computer?
[10:42] <bullgard4> How can I determine the set of alternatives in Debian's alternatives system that are installed on my Oneiric computer?
[10:44] <yagoo> bullgard4, alternatives are used with the alternative commands (ls /etc/alternatives) (apropos alternative)
[10:44] <yagoo> bullgard4, you don't change alternatives with "ln" of course
[10:45] <yagoo> bullgard4, i prefer to use my own symlinks in ~/bin with ~/bin in $PATH (in my own ~/.profile)
[10:45] <bullgard4> yagoo: I did not aks how alernatives are used . I asked for determining a set.
[10:46] <llutz_> update-alternatives --list  command
[10:48] <bullgard4> llutz_: '~$ update-alternatives --list' does not list a set of the installed alternatives.
[10:48] <llutz_> it does, for a given grouü
[10:48] <llutz_> p
[10:48] <bullgard4> llutz_: What does 'grouü' mean?
[10:49] <szal> lol
[10:49] <llutz_> group
[10:49] <jatt> ls /etc/alternatives
[10:50] <llutz_> bullgard4: like "update-alternatives --display editor". if thats also not what you asked, you might rephrase your question
[10:51] <bullgard4> llutz_: I will consider rephrasing my question. --  Thank you very much.
[10:54] <some1else> Hello. My system can't determine version of one library. Someone told me to do locate and that's a result: http://pastebin.com/p3Ty3JE0 What exactly should I do?
[10:57] <orated> hello
[10:57] <Jonii> Is there a fix to the bug that if you allow using multiple keyboard layouts, most of the time is you see the layout name somewhere, it's wrong, and most of the time ctrl-<a key> type of shortcuts use different layout than simply pressing those keys, however, in such way that _occasionally_ they do use the same
[10:58] <Jonii> And, how does guest account and autologin work?
[10:58] <michaela> hi
[11:01] <orated> I'm trying to setup NAS using - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 . The server system get internal IP addr assigned by wireless router sometimes as 192.168.2.102 and at other times 101 while my client system gets 100. Should I setup NAS on server for both 102 and 101?
[11:02] <iceroot> orated: why not using static ips?
[11:02] <dr_willis> orated:  i set my router to give the same ip for my servers. or set them to se static ips
[11:03] <michaela> hi is this the room to get help with ubuntu
[11:03] <dr_willis> !topic
[11:03] <iceroot> orated: or mac-based ips, so the mac will alwayss get the same ip
[11:03] <dr_willis> michaela:  yes
[11:03] <bullgard4> How can I determine the set of the gneric names in Debian's alternatives system that are installed on my Oneiric computer?
[11:05] <orated> iceroot: dr_willis: The systems are connected to same network , only because of the wireless router. The router assigned address to each connected system. I'm not sure how to set them to use static ips.. Can you guide me on that?
[11:05] <iceroot> bullgard4: sudo update-alternatives --config TAB TAB
[11:05] <dr_willis> orated:  my router has the feature
[11:06] <dr_willis> !static
[11:06] <dr_willis> orated:  network manager also has the option
[11:07] <dr_willis> i use static for 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.100, the  tell the router to assign dynamic  at 192.168.1.200+
[11:08] <dr_willis> my printer for example is always 192.168.1.15 my nas is .20
[11:08] <soulnafein> Important problem I don't know how to solve, I've just installed ubuntu on a machine, installation was fine, I've tried ubuntu before installing and everything was fine. After rebooting it shows the ubuntu loading message, then it disappears and shows .
[11:08] <soulnafein> a fail for "Starting automatic crash report generation", few more lines and it's stuck on Stopping save kernel messages. Version is 11.10. I can access a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f2 if necessary.
[11:08] <soulnafein> What log file should I read for more info?
[11:08] <ct529> hi everybody. I have a problem here: I am using the tg3 driver for my network card in the kernel. Booting the system taken approx 40 seconds from start to the tg3 module, then sometimes that hang in there for something like 2 minutes (120 seconds), before getting to the next stage ( EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted.) Any clue?
[11:08] <FloodBot1> soulnafein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <ct529> any clue?
[11:08] <orated> dr_willis: Yes, I'm searching that option in router configuration page
[11:08] <ct529> can that be connected to IPV6?
[11:09] <iceroot> soulnafein: /var/log/syslog would be a good start
[11:09] <dr_willis> orated:  its under the dhcp server tab here i think, mac address reservation
[11:09] <szal> soulnafein: /var/log/gdm.log (might be a different file depending on what login manager you use), /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.old), ~/.Xsession-errors
[11:10] <michaela> i am using a gateway GT5656 and installed ubuntu 11.10, evaything work exept i dont get a boot screen with the ubuntu logo can some one help
[11:10] <bullgard4> iceroot: I have done what you suggested. I cannot believe that your answer is correct. Your recipe pirnts 2791 "possibilities". The first is ':'. What alternatives are there for ':' in Debian's alternatives system?
[11:11] <soulnafein> iceroot: thanks
[11:11] <soulnafein> szal: thanks
[11:13] <iceroot> bullgard4: working fine here, 113 results
[11:13] <michaela> im sorry can any one see my messages i just want to see if this is working
[11:13] <iceroot> bullgard4: you are using bash? or another shell?
[11:14] <soulnafein> szal: what's the default login manager in Ubuntu 11.10?
[11:14] <iceroot> bullgard4: enabled additional completion-features on your shell?
[11:14] <sagarchalise> soulnafein, lightdm
[11:14] <iceroot> bullgard4: this is plain .bashrc and its working fine here
[11:15] <bullgard4> iceroot: '~$ env; SHELL=/bin/bash'.
[11:15] <dr_willis> or he put an extra space befor he did the tab tab bullgard4
[11:15] <michaela> does know about gateways
[11:16] <ikonia> michaela: just ask your question
[11:16] <soulnafein> ok I've looked into Xorg.0.log, apparently there is a Fatal Server error....: Screens found but none have a usable configuration. Also failed to load Nvidia kernel module!
[11:16] <soulnafein> any idea how to solve this?
[11:17] <almoxarife> soulnafein: pastebin the log?
[11:17] <jonsaint> hi all. can anyone recommend an antivirus?
[11:17] <ikonia> jonsaint: for what purpose
[11:17] <iceroot> bullgard4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/742146/
[11:17] <almoxarife> jonsaint: clamav
[11:17] <soulnafein> almoxarife: easy way to pastebin from commandline?
[11:17] <michaela> i installed ubuntu 11.10 on my gateway GT5656 and it all works exept i dont see a boot screen with the ubuntu logo
[11:17] <jonsaint> ikonia, for my pc
[11:18] <soulnafein> :P
[11:18] <dr_willis> jonsaint:  yo relize they mainly scan windows files right?
[11:18] <bullgard4> iceroot: I don't think that I enabled additional completion features in my .bashrc file.
[11:18] <ikonia> jonsaint: your ubuntu PC ?
[11:18] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  defals bashrc is showing them here
[11:18] <jonsaint> yeah im running ubuntu. im  a newbie to ubuntu
[11:18] <almoxarife> soulnafein: :(
[11:18] <ikonia> jonsaint: you won't need an antivirus
[11:18] <iceroot> bullgard4: i guess yiu misstyped the command and get the output of PATH
[11:18] <iceroot> bullgard4: TAB TAB will show you every command
[11:18] <ikonia> jonsaint: virus's work different in Linux than in Windows so there aren't really antivirus products the same as there is in Windows
[11:18] <jonsaint> no antivirus??? why?
[11:19] <ikonia> !antivirus
[11:19] <iceroot> bullgard4: and if you misstyped the sudo update.. part bash is using content of PATH
[11:19] <dr_willis> jonsaint:  because this is not windows. ;)
[11:19] <almoxarife> jonsaint: you can use an antivirus for checking a network if the network includes win machines
[11:19] <iceroot> bullgard4: pressing TAB TAB will start with :  so i guess you just typed it wrong
[11:19] <Zpix> I cant shutdown ubuntu 11.10 from panel :(
[11:20] <jonsaint> well folks so far im loving this ubuntu! so much stuff for fre and friendly folks to match! why aint the entire planet running on this instead of windows!
[11:20] <ikonia> jonsaint: good luck using it.
[11:20] <bassliner> hm. who in the name of satan decided to put localised menu entries in grub's menu list?
[11:20] <shkorpija> asd
[11:20] <shkorpija> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:20] <jonsaint> are there any pointers i need to look out for when using this?
[11:20] <almoxarife> jonsaint: and you can add a antivirus checking ability to nautilus by adding clamav extension to it
[11:20] <bassliner> this is probably the greatest bullshit decision i've ever seen.
[11:20] <dr_willis> jonsaint:  they have a windows mindset, like you just showed when yo expected to need an antivirs software
[11:21] <ikonia> jonsaint: https://help.ubuntu.com - it's a good introduction
[11:21] <dr_willis> !manual
[11:21] <Zpix> please help me
[11:21] <Kartagis> what file should I use for resetting an environment variable?
[11:21] <michaela> i installed ubuntu 11.10 on my gateway GT5656 and it all works fine but i dont get the boot screen with the ubuntu logo
[11:21] <dr_willis> manual may be a little out of date
[11:21] <ikonia> Kartagis: resetting ?
[11:22] <jonsaint> thank you so much everyone! looks like ubuntu is the way forward for me. il go and have a look about. thanks again. byee!
[11:22] <Kartagis> ikonia: export to another value
[11:22] <ikonia> michaela: what do you get ?
[11:22] <dr_willis> michaela:  plymouth and some drivers dont work togerhter well..
[11:22] <ikonia> Kartagis: could you tell me exactly what you want to do
[11:22] <dr_willis> michaela:  but yo do get to the desktop correctly?
[11:22] <michaela> it take awile but it just take me to the log in screen
[11:23] <Zpix> I cant shutdown ubuntu 11.10
[11:23] <michaela> yes the desktop works
[11:23] <Kartagis> ikonia: I want to re-export LANG from tr_TR.UTF-8 to en_US.UTF-8
[11:23] <ikonia> Kartagis: that would be in your .bashrc
[11:23] <Kartagis> ikonia: what about system-wide?
[11:24] <TehDGM> Zpix: what do you mean can't shutdown? Does sudo init 0 work?
[11:24] <Kartagis> ikonia: /etc/bash.bashrc?
[11:24] <ikonia> Kartagis: no
[11:24] <ikonia> Kartagis: I'm trying to remember what the debian version of /etc/sysconfig/lang is
[11:24] <Zpix> TehDGM: i cant use system panel to shutdown
[11:24] <bullgard4> iceroot: '~$ sudo update-alternatives --config TAB TAB' obtains: "update-alternatives: Fehler: unbekanntes Argument »TAB«." So, what do you mean by »TAB TAB«?
[11:25] <almoxarife> ikonia: oem-setup?
[11:25] <ikonia> almoxarife: what ?
[11:25] <ikonia> Kartagis: the file is i18n on redhat systems, I can't remember the debian location, that should get you started though
[11:25] <soulnafein> So I've managed to pastebin from command line http://pastebin.com/NQbFz69s problem is after first boot, xorg fails to start. Ubuntu 11.10
[11:25] <ikonia> Kartagis: worth looking at /etc/environment too
[11:25] <soulnafein> Help please
[11:25] <phoobar> How can I restart my Unity bar ? killing X won't do it
[11:26] <soulnafein> let me know if you need more logs
[11:26] <almoxarife> !oem-config
[11:26] <Kartagis> ikonia: /etc/default/locale:LANG="en_US.UTF-8" <--- phew
[11:26] <michaela> dr_willis:  are you still there
[11:27] <inashdeen> anyone here using AWN on ubuntu 11.10? really need help for the notification area problem right now. i cant right click on it!
[11:27] <ikonia> soulnafein:  your loading the "nv" module, you don't have it installed
[11:27] <ikonia> soulnafein: are you trying to use the open source nvidia modules ?
[11:27] <ikonia> Kartagis: good fine
[11:27] <dr_willis> im in and out all day
[11:27] <ikonia> Kartagis: find
[11:27] <iceroot> bullgard4: the key TAB
[11:27] <_GoRDoN_> bullgard4: TAB = the key above caps lock, usually has 2 arrowsi in it =), press it twice
[11:27] <iceroot> bullgard4: near esc with 2 arrows
[11:28] <iceroot> bullgard4: its one of the best features of unix-shzells
[11:28] <dr_willis> mine actally says 'tab'
[11:28] <iceroot> bullgard4: and in combination with zsh its a killer-feature
[11:28] <dr_willis> !tab
[11:28] <soulnafein> ikonia: I didn't do anything about it, I've just installed 11.10 on this machine and it does that on the first boot.
[11:29] <soulnafein> ikonia: I've event tried to reinstall it one more time, and I get the same problem.
[11:29] <ikonia> soulnafein: very odd, I believed the nv component was installed by default
[11:29] <Kartagis> thanks ikonia
[11:29] <michaela> dr_willis could you help me or refer me to some one who could
[11:29] <ikonia> soulnafein: I suggest you use graphical fail safe mode, and then use the hardware drivers tool to install the closed source nvidia drivers which normally work
[11:30] <inashdeen> anyone here using AWN on ubuntu? anyone got a solution for the un-rightclickable notification area systray
[11:30] <dr_willis> michaela:  i disable that silly plymouth logo/screen and never look back.. its rather useless.
[11:30] <soulnafein> ikonia: How can I boot in graphical fail safe mode?
[11:30] <ikonia> soulnafein: you should get an option for recovery/failsafe mode when you boot
[11:31] <phoobar> exit
[11:31] <almoxarife> dr_willis: how did you disable it, I want to
[11:31] <soulnafein> when I boot grub shows me a recovery mode, but it still fails to load the login screen
[11:31] <bullgard4> iceroot: If I press '~$ sudo update-alternatives --config' folled by TAB and TAB, my Oneiric terminal program adds two dashes behind the command. That's all.
[11:31] <bullgard4> iceroot: If I press '~$ sudo update-alternatives --config' followed by TAB and TAB, my Oneiric terminal program adds two dashes behind the command. That's all.
[11:31] <ikonia> soulnafein: do you have a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <iceroot> bullgard4: then you dont know what tab is
[11:32] <iceroot> bullgard4: or your terminal (putty??) is broken
[11:32] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  'noquiet nosplash' in /etc/default/grub  kernel defalt options
[11:32] <soulnafein> ikonia: one sec
[11:32] <michaela> dr_willis: its not for me im on your side but its for my sister cousin he likes it
[11:32] <gobgab> #ubuntu-fr
[11:32] <lukadefar1>  hi, can anybody help me... i need a web service, that could preferably be run locally, and would retreive all posible browser/plugins/os information for debugging customer issues.. i know its not realated..but i just forgot the name of an app i saw
[11:32] <bullgard4> iceroot: You are in error. I know what TAB is. Rather, you did not state an unambiguous command.
[11:32] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  try without the sdo
[11:33] <inashdeen> anyone here have problem with lightdm shutdown button which become ugly? anyone has a workaround
[11:33] <iceroot> bullgard4: its working fine here with default configs, so the error is not on my side
[11:33] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Leaving out 'sudO' does not change the result.
[11:33] <soulnafein> ikonia: yes, I'm now editing it
[11:33] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Leaving out 'sudo' does not change the result.
[11:34] <soulnafein> ikonia: there isn't much in it though
[11:34] <ikonia> soulnafein: then this is not a default install, as by default that file is not there
[11:34] <dr_willis> update-alternative[tab] here adds a -- then i fill in --conf[tab] for --config    then --config[tab][tab] shows 104 possible
[11:34] <ikonia> soulnafein: if you add the line Driver "vesa" to the video device section and reboot, you'll get a basic display
[11:35]  * dr_willis wears out his tab key
[11:35] <michaela> ikonia are you talking to me
[11:36] <ikonia> michaela: where ?
[11:36] <laurus> I am experiencing weird behavior with a USB keyboard on my netbook. It seems the caps lock key is permanently locked. Even when I unplug it, now everything is in caps. How do I fix this?
[11:36] <ct529> hi everybody. I have a problem here: I am using the tg3 driver for my network card in the kernel. Booting the system taken approx 40 seconds from start to the tg3 module, then sometimes that hang in there for something like 2 minutes (120 seconds), before getting to the next stage ( EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted.) Any clue?
[11:36] <michaela> what
[11:36] <michaela> ?
[11:36] <soulnafein> ikonia: like this? http://pastebin.com/CvRhJPXN
[11:37] <ikonia> michaela: you're asking if I'm talking to you - I'm not saying your name, and I'm addressing other peoples so I'm asking you "where" do you think I'm talking to you
[11:37] <ikonia> soulnafein: how are you cutting and pasting without a graphical display
[11:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:37] <soulnafein> ikonia: FYI I've burned this installation cd yesterday, version 11.10, I've installed after choosing Try Ubuntu and I've selected the checkbox that says to download update from the internet
[11:37] <ikonia> soulnafein: these are not default installs, the option "nologo" is not a default update
[11:37] <soulnafein> soulnafein: with the power of bash
[11:38] <soulnafein> ikonia: with the power of bahs
[11:38] <soulnafein> *bash
[11:38] <soulnafein> I'll share the script with you guys later
[11:38] <michaela> its my mistake i thought you where talking to me
[11:38] <bullgard4> dr_willis: I have changed now to another terminal program and followed your recipe. With slight changes I was able to obtain 102 "possibilities". --  Thank you very much for your help.
[11:38] <soulnafein> ikonia: Of course chatting from my other pc at the mom
[11:38] <ikonia> soulnafein: remove the no logo line, that is an nvidia option
[11:39] <ikonia> soulnafein: I'm concerned that this doesn't appear to be a default install as you suggest
[11:39] <bullgard4> iceroot: I suspect that I used a unsuitable terminal program. --  Thank you.
[11:39] <soulnafein> ikonia: I call bug :D
[11:40] <ikonia> soulnafein: I don't
[11:40] <soulnafein> ikonia: shall I double check the iso against an MD5 checksum?
[11:41] <soulnafein> ikonia: anyhow, your change worked, I can now see a basic login screen
[11:41] <silv3r_m00n> I did a sudo apt-get remove dbus by mistake and now system doesn't restart , now when I do sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop it says some packages have unmet dependencies and doesn't continue , is there some way out or to force a complete reinstall of ubuntu-desktop or another fix ?
[11:41] <ikonia> soulnafein: I suggest you now install the correct nvidia drivers
[11:41] <michaela> so oh, how about those dodgers?
[11:41] <ikonia> michaela: how about keeping to the channel topic of ubuntu
[11:42] <soulnafein> ikonia: I'm now looking for additional drivers
[11:42] <orated_> dr_willis: I set it to static. Now it always get static ip
[11:42] <orated_> Thanks
[11:42] <soulnafein> ikonia: it's downloading drivers and installing, thanks. Let's hope this will fix it
[11:43] <ikonia> soulnafein: keep an eye on the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, make sure the driver changes to "nvidia" in that file
[11:43] <soulnafein> ikonia: are you part of ubuntu dev team? Do you want me to investigate a bit more (e.g. give that you think it's not a standard install?)
[11:44] <ikonia> soulnafein: don't worry about it,
[11:44] <bullgard4> silv3r_m00n: First do a backup.  I would then de-install and re-install all packages having "dbus" in their names. Then try again to install ubuntu-desktop.
[11:44] <almoxarife> dr_willis: tried your suggestion, no joy, went back to "" in default line instead
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> bullgard4: for example gdebi is required but sudo apt-get install gdebi is failing , saying gdebi-core ubuntu1 is required but will install gdebi-core ubuntu2
[11:46] <soulnafein> ikonia: Fixed :)
[11:47] <ikonia> good
[11:47] <me-1> hi...how do i connect to a vpn..?
[11:47] <ikonia> silv3r_m00n: sounds like you have conflicting repos
[11:47] <orst3> hi, someone got a clue why after a reboot my luks/dmcrypt device is still mounted without entering a passwort ? oO
[11:47] <RexHerudae> Good morning
[11:48] <bullgard4> silv3r_m00n: It seems that you did not have your system up-to-date before you inadvertently erased dbus. In this case I cannot help you.
[11:48] <michaela> i have a gateway GT5656 and am trying to get my family to like ubuntu so i installed ubuntu 11.10 and im not into aesthetics but they are and i need help to get the boot screen with the ububntu logo to work
[11:48] <soulnafein> ikonia: as promised http://pastebin.com/7medKwzV I use it by doing ./pastebin.sh < /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:48] <ikonia> michaela: you where told about some of the issues with plymouth
[11:48] <silv3r_m00n> bullgard4: correct
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> the system was not uptodate before I did the remove dbus
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> now what next
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> can the installation cd be used to rescue
[11:49] <michaela> what plymouth
[11:49] <ikonia> soulnafein: don't worry, I know how ot do it, I was trying to undersand what you where doing as sometimes people describe a sitaution that isn't the case
[11:49] <dr_willis> michaela:  chek the forums for issues and fixs.for plymouth and your gpuchipset
[11:49] <michaela> what is plymouth
[11:49] <ikonia> michaela: the graphical thing that isn't working so you're not seeing the boot logo
[11:50] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[11:50] <dr_willis> plymouth is such a pain for so little gain
[11:50] <soulnafein> are there plans to make the unity launch a bit more "responsive"
[11:51] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress
[11:51] <soulnafein> before using unity I've always used gnome do, I find the launcher a tad bit slower
[11:51] <cattune> hello all...does anyone know how to run myob in ubuntu?
[11:52] <soulnafein> dr_willis: what's the main objective for 12.04?
[11:52] <dr_willis> whats myob?
[11:52] <inashdeen> bump
[11:52] <dr_willis> soulnafein: polish and more polish
[11:52] <soreau> dr_willis: mind your own business?
[11:53] <SilfenX> are there any webui remote filemanagers for ubuntu server or am I restricted to manage files via terminal only??
[11:53] <dr_willis> byob ;)
[11:53] <orst3> hi, someone got a clue why after a reboot my luks/dmcrypt device is still mounted without entering a passwort ? oO
[11:53] <orst3> im going to try this again, or does dolphin automount such devices on startup?
[11:53] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  ssh and x forwarding. or mc
[11:53] <orst3> with known password.
[11:54] <x3_iVaN> hi
[11:54] <cattune> dr-willis:its a business program
[11:54] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  or vnc.
[11:54] <cattune> designed for windows of course
[11:55] <dr_willis> !wine | cattune
[11:55] <SilfenX> dr_willis: aye, VNC - that requires some kind of desktop to be running on the server tho?
[11:55] <cattune> ok,thank you,i'll check it out
[11:56] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  in a vnc session. not a visuble display
[11:56] <RexHerudae> I'm new with Linux and started with Ubuntu 11.10, I installed it in my PC (Core2Duo 2Ghz, 512Mb Ram DDR2, integrated video in Motherboard), I know the requirements for Unity are 1Gb Ram so I decided to download a Desktop environment more lightweight, so I Installed LXDE, it loads very fast, compared to 3.5 min from login screen to open desktop in Unity, but it freezes every time I open a single
[11:56] <RexHerudae> program
[11:57] <RexHerudae> could anyone help me please
[11:57] <dr_willis> SilfenX: learn how to use mc   its so handy
[11:57] <jrib> RexHerudae: when it freezes, can you access a tty by pressing ctrl-alt-f1?
[11:57] <Oins> Hi. truecrypt --auto-mount=devices randomize the order of my devices. Sometimes hda1 -> truecrypt1, sometimes hda1 -> truecrypt2, aso. Is it possible to define the mount order?
[11:57] <michaela> ok its me being annoying again so ill say sorry ahead of time but is there any urls that can point me in the right direction
[11:57] <SilfenX> dr_willis: whats is mc?
[11:57] <dr_willis> !mc
[11:57] <dr_willis> !info mc
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> midnight commander
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> like norton commander in the old daze
[11:58] <dr_willis> a must know about tool...
[11:58] <dr_willis> :-)
[11:58] <SilfenX> right, so it can run a demon on the server that I can hook up to from any machine?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> when we was young and beautiful
[11:58] <soulnafein> I've recently converted several non techies to Ubuntu, and they love it. My only concern is that sometimes they found problems or annoyances but there's no way to track those things. Opening a ticket in Launchpad is a bit daunting for non techies. I think it would be interesting if there was some kind of simply send feeback button in ubuntu.
[11:59] <dr_willis> SilfenX: ssh is our friend
[11:59] <SilfenX> ssh hates me
[11:59] <RexHerudae> I can't even move the mouse cursor but I didn't know that command, is ctrl-alt-f1 something like Windows Task Manager?
[11:59] <soulnafein> maybe with the possibility to vote up for an existing problem
[11:59] <Guest43976> hey so im just reinstalling ubuntu server 10.04.  Before it had a raid setup installed so in the partition section of the install, i am trying to delete this and REDO a new raid.  I am attempting to delete the old RAID but is stuck on 0%. Any ideas?
[11:59] <jrib> !bug | soulnafein
[11:59] <dr_willis> make sweet love to the ssh queen
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> RexHerudae  ctrl alt f1 gives you a bare command line
[11:59] <dr_willis> i ssh from my phone
[12:00] <jrib> soulnafein: it's just a command and then you get prompted for info.  That should work for bugs.  If they have suggestions instead of bugs then they could use brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <dr_willis> i ssh to my phone...
[12:00] <dr_willis> bbl.
[12:00] <RexHerudae> ok, is to open console
[12:01] <soulnafein> jrib: cheers I didn't know about it :)
[12:03] <soulnafein> jrib: if there is a problem with the window close button (e.g. it doesn't close, or it doesn't appear) is it a problem with Unity or something else?
[12:03] <jrib> soulnafein: probably something else
[12:03] <RexHerudae> well eventually it unfreezes for a while, so I think I coul open the console
[12:04] <soulnafein> jrib: compiz?
[12:08] <orated> I setup NFS as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 with the only change being '/ 192.168.2.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)' After completing the setup for both server and client, I tried to access the fs from client with - sudo mount 192.168.2.100:/ /home/user/NFS/ It took few seconds to open and it worked for almost all folders but later when I tried to enter home directory in nfs, it didn't open. Same I tried to open
[12:08] <orated> in command line and was not able to cd home/ in /NFS.. How can I fix it?
[12:08] <RexHerudae> Oh, there's an Ubuntu Beginners Team
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> orated  have you modified /etc/exports?
[12:09] <sagarvarpe> hi
[12:09] <cringous> I've installed Ubuntu 11.10, and since can't execute shell scripts, even with the 777 permissions and as root. It don't even autocomplete after ./ . Someone can give a clue ?
[12:09] <jrib> soulnafein: my guess would be it's an issue with a particular program unless it happens regardless of the program
[12:10] <orated> MonkeyDust: Yes, that's what I said - I added '/ 192.168.2.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)'
[12:10] <jrib> cringous: what are you doing exactly...?
[12:10] <Guest43976> hello, is there an option to format all harddrives before partitioning in the ubuntu server install?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> orated  you should restart the nfs-kernel
[12:10] <soulnafein> jrib: it does happen regardless of the program
[12:10] <lupuss> hey anyone there ?
[12:10] <ikonia> Guest43976: when you partition the disk it will offer you the option to format it
[12:10] <ikonia> lupuss: 1400+ people
[12:10] <cringous> I'm trying to execute a shell script like "./program.sh"
[12:10] <jrib> soulnafein: then maybe unity though that seems pretty strange
[12:11] <lupuss> can anyone gimme a hand? I have a big problem with my computer
[12:11] <orated> MonkeyDust: Yes, I did that - sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart. I followed everything said in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889
[12:11] <jrib> cringous: show us in a pastebin your attempts.  Include an « ls -l » command somewhere
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> cringous  try sh program.sh
[12:11] <Guest43976> ikonia, i have a raid1 that i want to delete/format and there are no options for that
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest43976: is it hardware/software raid
[12:11] <tero> how can I change eth2 to eth0 ?
[12:11] <Guest43976> software
[12:11] <Guest43976> ikonia, software
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest43976: as in mdadm ?
[12:11] <cringous> Now it works !
[12:11] <cringous> With sh
[12:12] <Guest43976> ikonia, no worries i aborted the installation a minute ago which obviously destroyed the os as it took me to "scrub rescue"
[12:12] <ikonia> Guest43976: I see
[12:12] <Guest43976> ikonia, and now the mdadm raid has vanished. YES!
[12:13] <kaddi> hi, I need some help compiling a software (that isn't available through the repositories.) The makefile breaks almost immediately, because it can't read this line: "include Makefile.conf.$(OSTYPE)". The file supposed to be included is Makefile.conf.linux-gnu.
[12:13] <lupuss> guys. my laptop internet connection is off after I upgraded. Please Help!!!!!
[12:13] <cringous> Thank you all very much, it helps a lot.
[12:13] <ikonia> Guest43976: fyi: if you remove the partitions on the physical disk, mdadm will vanish
[12:13] <ikonia> kaddi: what software ?
[12:13] <kaddi> it's called MARS, it's a research software
[12:13] <jrib> cringous: you shouldn't run it that way unless you actually want to use sh (dash)
[12:13] <ikonia> kaddi: where tid you get it ?
[12:13] <Guest43976> ikonia, taking the drive out?
[12:14] <ikonia> Guest43976: no, destorying the partition on the physical disk
[12:14] <ikonia> Guest43976: instead of the virtal raid disk
[12:14] <kaddi> from their repositories.. it's not publicly available I think. ikonia
[12:14] <lupuss> :(
[12:14] <ikonia> kaddi: ok, then you ned to contact them for support/help
[12:15] <lupuss> guys. my laptop internet connection is off after I upgraded. Please Help!!!!!
[12:15] <lupuss> don't know what to do
[12:15] <Guest43976> ikonia, how do i destroy the partition ?
[12:15] <kaddi> so I'm not even allowed to ask my question?
[12:15] <ikonia> Guest43976: then you do the install, it will ask you to partition the disk
[12:15] <deej1976> !ot |kaddi
[12:15] <ikonia> kaddi: we can't help you as we won't have any way to read / understand the software
[12:16] <ikonia> kaddi: if it's not publicly available you can't give it us as that would be against their rules,
[12:16] <lupuss> !guidelines
[12:16] <kaddi> all I need is a way to declare a command OSTYPE to return the value of $OSTYPE
[12:16] <ikonia> kaddi: hence, contacting the people who make it is the best approach
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:16] <ikonia> kaddi: it depends on how the software wants it, it's not that simple
[12:16] <abe> anyone has experience with setting up NAP with bluez on ubuntu could point me to an up-to-date guide/doc? "sdptool browse local" never show NAP service available even when I have created a network.service in /etc/bluetooth
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> kaddi  your program is not supported on this channel
[12:17] <kaddi> ikonia: this is the error: Makefile:17: Makefile.conf.: No such file or directory That is the file that should be included: Makefile.conf.linux-gnu. That is the line in the makefile: include Makefile.conf.$(OSTYPE)
[12:17] <ikonia> kaddi: that is pointless to tell me that error
[12:18] <ikonia> kaddi: the best option is to contact the people who supplied you with the software and explain the problem
[12:18] <kaddi> i have nobody had supply it, I need to learn how to use it by myself
[12:18] <kaddi> but it's ok i'll figure something out
[12:18] <ikonia> kaddi: you've just said it's not publicly availabe so someone must have given it you
[12:19] <orated> Updating nfs server with sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart gives one error -  http://pastebin.com/VwrRTxVV Is that right?
[12:19] <kaddi> i'm part of the group that's supposed to work with it.. doesn't mean someone has signed responsible for me and is at my disposure for questions
[12:20] <ikonia> kaddi: there must be someone/group/company who make the software, someone must have given your group your software
[12:20] <kaddi> yeh, prolly there is. Your guess is as good as mine though as to who that was
[12:20] <rahmat> where i can download source code ubuntu 11.10 ???
[12:20] <ikonia> kaddi: talk to your othe rgroup members, or the leaders of your team/projects
[12:20] <ikonia> rahmat: there isn't 1 source code, its many many packages
[12:21] <lupuss> anyone else willing to give some help besides ikonia ?
[12:21] <rabbitear> thats a vexed question
[12:21] <Joseph_> Hello
[12:21] <Joseph_> I have a basic question about ubuntu
[12:21] <ikonia> Joseph_: you need to ask it
[12:22] <lupuss> why u ignore me :( ?
[12:22] <rabbitear> wow
[12:22] <orated> and sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-common restart says command not found
[12:23] <rabbitear> you think you are some kinda desease lupuss ?
[12:23] <rabbitear> do you know what you are lupuss ?
[12:23] <lupuss> ]lol rabbit :P
[12:23] <ikonia> rabbitear: stop that
[12:23] <lupuss> it's also the scientific name for a wolf
[12:23] <rabbitear> :)
[12:23] <Joseph_> I recently upgraded to 11.10 when asked to do that
[12:23] <Joseph_> and I really hate it
[12:23] <lupuss> can u try to help rabbit ? please
[12:23] <ikonia> Joseph_: ok, so how can we help ?
[12:23] <Joseph_> is it possible to go back to my previous version without deleting everything
[12:23] <rabbitear> lupuss: not with more stop its
[12:24] <Joseph_> and reinstalling the os
[12:24] <ikonia> Joseph_: no, you need to do a reinstall
[12:24] <TehDGM> no
[12:24] <Joseph_> ok, easy enough
[12:24] <rabbitear> not really
[12:24] <TehDGM> lies
[12:24] <Joseph_> I have the disk, i can just reformat the partiritoin(sp?) and start from scratch
[12:24] <orated> Is it right to add root / in export file for nfs configuration or adding particular home directory can only work?
[12:24] <ikonia> Joseph_: perfect
[12:24] <lupuss> what u mean rabbit?
[12:24] <Joseph_> ok thank you
[12:24] <deej1976> lupuss: Laptop Make, Wireless card type (realtek/broadcomm ) ?
[12:24] <rabbitear> well, you just keep saying that
[12:25] <rabbitear> I am rabbitear
[12:25] <TehDGM> orated: you *can*, but i wouldnt recommend it
[12:25] <rabbitear> what would I bug you with meanings and things like that?
[12:25] <rabbitear> who do you think I am?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> !ot| rabbitear
[12:26] <lupuss> deej1976: hp pavilion dv4-2114br (brazilian version)
[12:26] <rabbitear> MonkeyDust: I don't suppose connical, I do run ubuntu
[12:26] <lupuss> I don't care about wireless. wired is not working :/
[12:26] <rabbitear> for years at a time
[12:26] <TehDGM> lupuss: sudo ifup eth0 ?
[12:26] <lupuss> will try it, brb
[12:27] <ikonia> rabbitear: do you have an ubuntu support question/dissusion you want to use the channel for ?
[12:27] <rabbitear> conical is secret people
[12:27] <ikonia> rabbitear: do you have an ubuntu support question/dissusion you want to use the channel for ?
[12:27] <KHendrik> Mornin' folks
[12:27] <rabbitear> ikonia: nope I am the support
[12:27] <rabbitear> you can ask anything ikonia
[12:27] <ikonia> rabbitear: ok - then please stop with the pointless jabbering
[12:28] <rabbitear> ikonia: ummm, I'll tell you if its enough
[12:28] <KHendrik> rabbitear, anything? what#s the meaning of life
[12:28] <jpds> wut.
[12:28] <ikonia> KHendrik: please stop that
[12:28] <rabbitear> and you people will be okay
[12:28] <ikonia> the topic of this channel is ubuntu support only - please stick to that
[12:28] <rabbitear> yes ask question, don't give answers
[12:29] <lupuss> TehDGM and deej1976: what happened is tried to see what was going on on synaptic with network-manager (read that somewhere), and as I'm a rookie user, It all got screwed: now it says no nnetwork device
[12:29] <rabbitear> we will help you
[12:29] <ikonia> rabbitear: final warning - enoough.
[12:29] <rabbitear> nope
[12:29] <rabbitear> ikonia: you need to relax
[12:30] <ikonia> rabbitear: you are now muted in the channel, please contact me by pm when you feel you can follow the channels topic
[12:31] <KHendrik> ikonia, ok i actually have a question i'm missing ubuntu (unity 3d) in the loggin selection used to work fine until yesterday but now it#s gone nvidia driver are working fine and gnome (shell) works too
[12:31] <kaddi> how would I get a bash script to print "$USER" instead of my username?
[12:31] <ikonia> gnome-shell and unity at the same time ?
[12:32] <deej1976> lupuss: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig
[12:32] <KHendrik> I#m in 11.10 i never installed gnome shell i just asumed its the normal dropback
[12:32] <newnoise> Hi. I have to setup a server with ubuntu and can choose between 10.04, 11.04 and 11.10, which version would you reccomend?
[12:32] <ikonia> KHendrik: no, it's not a fall back
[12:32] <ikonia> KHendrik: you use either unity or gnome-shell
[12:32] <jpds> newnoise: Whatever you need?
[12:32] <lupuss> TehDGM and deej1976: wait a second. what happened is I have no more internet configuration (on Edit Connections)
[12:33] <lupuss> ifup lo says it's already configured
[12:33] <newnoise> jpds: what does this mean? Which one is the best compromise of speed and stability?
[12:33] <jpds> newnoise: It's really up to you, but you want a release that's going to be supported for a while, then use 10.04 LTS.
[12:33] <lupuss> ifup eth0 gives unknown interface
[12:33] <KHendrik> ikonia unity 2d is still available but 3d isn#t working
[12:33] <deej1976> lupuss: Can you add a new network connection in the connection manger
[12:34] <newnoise> are there any real improvements in 11.10 compared to 10.04
[12:34] <lupuss> I did that
[12:34] <KHendrik> working -> not present at all
[12:34] <lupuss> now it's not saying "no network device" anymore
[12:34] <ikonia> KHendrik: interesting,
[12:34] <lupuss> but it's not working, though
[12:34] <lupuss> you want me to pastebin ifconfig deej1976?
[12:35] <deej1976> lupuss: if possible
[12:35] <lupuss> i''l get the laptop and try
[12:35] <jpds> newnoise: Try it, and see for yourself if it's sufficent for your needs?
[12:35] <walid> hi guys, i'm new to linux and i have trouble installing dropbox through the command line
[12:35] <jpds> newnoise: Only YOU know what YOUR needs are.
[12:35] <walid> (running a vm of mininet, no gui)
[12:35] <jpds> newnoise: And you probably want #ubuntu-server too.
[12:35] <deej1976> newnoise: 10.04 LTS server has 5 year support, the others are 18 months
[12:35] <walid> i'm running ubuntu 10.02
[12:36] <deej1976> walid: impossible
[12:36] <walid> deej1976: lol
[12:36] <camillo> hallo
[12:36] <walid> deej1976: really? i saw plenty of tutos and tricks and such, but i don't know which i should use
[12:36] <walid> but if it's simply not possible...
[12:37] <deej1976> walid: lsb_release  -r
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> walid  type apt-cache search dropbox and install the package you need
[12:37] <walid> 10.04
[12:37] <newnoise> ok. I stick with 10.04, we use it on other servers, so itll be easier to care for it
[12:37] <linux_boon> trying to make a perl script run as a daemon... just installed proc::daemon but have no idea on how to use it now anyone can help me?
[12:37] <walid> MonkeyDust: this returns nothing
[12:37] <deej1976> walid: So not 10.02
[12:37] <iceroot> newnoise: never touch a running system and specially never touch servers
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> walid  it means it's not in the repos
[12:37] <walid> deej1976: nope, sorry :/
[12:38] <walid> MonkeyDust: i read i have to add the repo (=deb? )
[12:38] <lupuss> deej1976: ifconfig is on http://pastebin.com/B9yrFbWK
[12:38] <camillo> !list
[12:39] <walid> deej1976: do you know how to do it?
[12:40] <deej1976> walid: dpkg -i [deb_file]
[12:40] <deej1976> walid: sudo of cause
[12:40] <walid> deej1976: i'm really sry, this is prob my 4h 5th command on a proper linux...
[12:40] <walid> yes
[12:41] <walid> and deb file i should download first?
[12:41] <deej1976> walid: yes
[12:41] <walid> with wget
[12:41] <walid> i'm on it
[12:42] <deej1976> lupuss: Strangely definitely no network card pickup, I've just deleted the connection, reboot, add back selecting the eth0 mac and it picked up.
[12:42] <lupuss> I absolutely didn't understand what us said deej
[12:43] <lupuss> but lemme tell u something
[12:43] <lupuss> in the past, I have followed a tutorial
[12:43] <lupuss> so to make some portforwardings
[12:43] <deej1976> lupuss: I've just tested in a virtual machine
[12:43] <walid> need to install nautilus, on it i think ^^
[12:43] <lupuss> in order to do so, I needed to do set up a static ip
[12:43] <deej1976> walid: Not a good idea for a server
[12:43] <lupuss> as I'm connected to a router
[12:43] <iceroot> walid: dont do that
[12:44] <walid> deej1976: hm i'm not on a server
[12:44] <iceroot> walid: what system are you using when nautilus is not installed?
[12:44] <lupuss> ok deej, your telling me to delete it, reboot, and add one new, selecting eth0 ? ok will try it
[12:44] <iceroot> walid: kubuntu? lubuntu?
[12:44] <lupuss> but no idea by now how to select eth0
[12:44] <lupuss> brb
[12:44] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[12:45] <walid> iceroot: i'm downloaded a vm from http://yuba.stanford.edu/foswiki/bin/view/OpenFlow/MininetVMSetupNotes
[12:45] <SpenserWilde> What's the package that provides zlib support for Python?
[12:45] <iceroot> walid: and what is "mininet" a linux-distribution?
[12:45] <walid> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:	10.04 Codename:	lucid
[12:45] <skumara> i just install gnome shell in ubuntu 11.10. i get this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1882972 any help?
[12:46] <walid> mininet is a network virtualization soft
[12:46] <walid> running on ubuntu
[12:46] <Pici> SpenserWilde: iirc, its a python builtin.
[12:46] <iceroot> walid: ok
[12:47] <walid> deej1976: so i shouldn't install nautilus? then no dropbox?
[12:47] <SpenserWilde> Pici, iirc?
[12:47] <Pici> SpenserWilde: If I Recall Correctly
[12:47] <deej1976> walid: Not if you want to keep it gui-less
[12:47] <SpenserWilde> Pici, Actually, I am trying to install Plone. But it tells me that Python zlib support is missing.
[12:47]  * deej1976 I'm out for a bit
[12:47] <Pici> SpenserWilde: let me double check...
[12:48] <walid> deej1976: i don't really care about having it gui-less. i just need it to run! ;)
[12:48] <iceroot> walid: download this https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx  and double-click the file or use "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[12:48] <walid> ps: what's nautilus?
[12:48] <iceroot> walid: file-browser
[12:48] <iceroot> walid: default file-browser for gnome/unity
[12:49] <walid> iceroot: i just did that ^^i ran apt-get install nautilus-dropbox, it said it was installed..
[12:49] <iceroot> walid: so what is the issue?
[12:49] <lupuss> deej1976: I have deleted it and rebooted, but when I came back there was a new one: the difference was it says eth0 on the MAC address( the prior didn't had nothing there)
[12:49] <lupuss> but it's still not working
[12:49] <Pici> SpenserWilde: zlib is part of the Python Standard Library: http://docs.python.org/library/zlib.html
[12:49] <lupuss> and ifconfig
[12:49] <lupuss> returns the same, except for the line 'RX bytes:480 (480.0 B)  TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)' which has different bite numbers
[12:50] <walid> iceroot: well now i'm not sure. i couldn't add the deb to install dropbox, but now i think i did.
[12:50] <walid> need to find how to launch the deamon
[12:50] <walid> :D
[12:50] <iceroot> walid: sure its a daemon?
[12:50] <walid> iceroot: no.
[12:50] <iceroot> walid: sounds like its just a nautilus-addon
[12:51] <lupuss> deej1976: a guy suggested on forums that something went really wrong when I upgraded, and that I should reinstall everything
[12:51] <lupuss> the os, I mean
[12:51] <walid> iceroot: hm so do you know what i need to do to have it running?
[12:53] <santanuc> hello!! am a new ubuntu user:-)
[12:53] <telemare> anyone knows if there is any good private torrent sites i can reg
[12:54] <Lasers> !piracy | telemare
[12:54] <walid> ok instructions are in the dropbox command
[12:54] <iceroot> walid: sorry never used it
[12:54] <Lasers> telemare: http://www.mininova.org/
[12:54] <walid> i think i'm done here soon :)
[12:56] <jabbadoo> Ok. So I try to boot a Ubuntu Server LTS from iso image on kvm. When I start the installation it says "trying to enable frame buffer", and then everything goes pitch black. Any ideas?
[12:56] <skumara> i have my screen flickering after install gnome shell. why?
[12:58] <Pici> Lasers: If you're going to be nice enough to call !piracy, please actually abide by it yourself.
[12:59] <iceroot> walid: worked?
[12:59] <lupuss> deej1976: ur testing something ?
[13:00] <walid> iceroot: in process. nautilus just said it couldn't connect
[13:00] <iceroot> walid: to the dropbox-server?
[13:00] <walid> ** (nautilus:14381): WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused  ** (nautilus:14381): WARNING **: Could not inhibit power management: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files ^C
[13:00] <shadowpirate> is it possible to resize the swap if my installation is just inside window$?
[13:00] <arcsky> hello i have turned on remote desktop in ubuntu. and i control it with vnc client. but why ist so damn laggy ? sitting on 10mbit link in same country
[13:01] <walid> shit.
[13:01] <walid> all for nothing.
[13:01] <iceroot> walid: the system comes already with a gui?
[13:01] <iceroot> walid: or did you install it by hand?
[13:01] <walid> 'this computer is already linked to an account'
[13:02] <iceroot> walid: ah :)
[13:02] <walid> iceroot: the system comes as an image
[13:02] <walid> iceroot: cause i'm running it through a vm
[13:02] <walid> so... i can forget about this.
[13:02] <walid> well...
[13:02] <iceroot> walid: why?
[13:02] <iceroot> walid: just use another dropbox-user
[13:02] <walid> sudo dropbox start To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url: https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=ff74c9617b8cf25a92819e001e8eead5&cl=en_US
[13:02] <murlidhar> how to make the dash launch in full screen ?
[13:03] <walid> hm. i don't think i can have 2 accounts on 1 computer.
[13:03] <walid> i'm pretty sure dropbox forbids that.
[13:03] <iceroot> walid: i dont know
[13:04] <gemunu> how can I install Nautilus-elementary on ubuntu 10.04.3
[13:04] <walid> iceroot: i'm prettry sure. plus it wasn't that necessary. and i should stop playing with linux and get down to my business.
[13:04] <walid> which isn't easy either ^^
[13:05] <murlidhar> gemunu: i think there is ppa to install nautilus-elementary . not sure if there still maintaining it.
[13:05] <psychognite> hello to genius out there
[13:05] <psychognite> can some give some tricks on iirc
[13:05] <psychognite> i am nu to irc
[13:05] <psychognite> please help me out
[13:06] <szal> !irc | psychognite
[13:06] <gemunu> ok
[13:07] <psychognite> kkk thnx a lot
[13:07] <mvv_> arcsky: what's the latency?
[13:07] <murlidhar> ah jeez! i managed it myself :)
[13:08] <arcsky> mvv_: with ping?
[13:09] <icank> hello
[13:09] <walid> alright guys, thanks for your help, and i'll be back the day i head into ubuntu again!
[13:09] <bobalicione> How can I find if my system is recognizing my audio device on this laptop?
[13:09] <walid> :)
[13:10] <santanuc> hi am new to irc and ubuntu. interested in bash script. is there any channel for bash script programming?
[13:10] <llutz> santanuc: #bash
[13:11] <santanuc> llutz: thanks :-)
[13:11] <ThePendulum> I was wondering, does anyone know what 'error : no such device : 8f5e5e69-f6ed-4b09-b7b6-49107808ef9a' means? As in, what device can't it find?
[13:11] <KittyBunny> Hello I replaced gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver and now I can't lock my computer.
[13:11] <KittyBunny> Why is that?
[13:11] <iceroot> ThePendulum: its an entry from /etc/fstab i guess
[13:12] <TehDGM> ThePendulum: a harddrive partition maybe?
[13:12] <TehDGM> what iceroot said
[13:12] <llutz> ThePendulum: UUID changed (/etc/fstab, sudo bklid)
[13:12] <ThePendulum> TehDGM: Is there a way to check for it?
[13:12] <arcsky> coders
[13:12] <bobalicione> I found my audio hardware using lspci... how do I find out if it is mounted?
[13:12] <psychognite> how to connect #bash from here only.....i knw it is stupid question i didn't know...?
[13:12] <ThePendulum> I failed to install an OS on the system for 3 days now, it gets annoying D:
[13:12] <ThePendulum> Well, the installation of Linux distributions goes alright, but none of them boots properly
[13:13] <iceroot> psychognite: /join #bash
[13:13] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: They should do.
[13:13] <psychognite> thnx iceroot
[13:13] <KittyBunny> You obviously have an hardware failure.
[13:13] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: I kinda got to that conclusion myself LOL
[13:13] <psychognite> iceroot:thnx
[13:13] <iceroot> psychognite: you are welcome
[13:14] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Normally Linux works out of the box.
[13:14] <willie> not if you have LVM partitions
[13:14] <KittyBunny> Unless the computer it's installed on has an hardware failure.
[13:14] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: I know, I installed a lot of distributions before including this exact version of Ubuntu
[13:14] <KittyBunny> Like...
[13:14] <KittyBunny> My sisters netbook hard drive.
[13:14] <ThePendulum> Windows fails to install as well, it says it misses a driver for the optical drive
[13:14] <KittyBunny> lol
[13:14] <willie> can anyone point me to a url that SOLVES the lack of lvm partitions showing up in 11.10 64-bit
[13:14] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: But Windows is STUPID
[13:15] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: Windows has been my fallback OS for whenever something fails. The reason for that is, Windows will install, no matter what :P
[13:15] <KittyBunny> Where Linux would go ahead and install but may not boot.
[13:15] <ThePendulum> Exactly
[13:15] <KittyBunny> Windows complains during installation.
[13:15] <KittyBunny> But this is offtopic here
[13:15] <ThePendulum> So did Linux
[13:15] <ThePendulum> The installation of both Ubuntu and Mint has failed many times before I got it right
[13:15] <ThePendulum> (the installer itself)
[13:16] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: So I recommend you fix the hardware then install Ubuntu or you're going to fail.
[13:16] <ThePendulum> Well, many say it is a hardware issue, but I have no idea what part
[13:16] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Probably the hard drive more than anything.
[13:16] <Atamisk> Okay, i have a "general computing" question. If i buy a processor with more cores, but a slower overall clock frequency, will my 32-bit applications suffer? Basically i'm looking to jump from an i3-540 to an i7-800 series.
[13:16] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: Strange, it's a brand new SSD and it ran Windows just fine before I attempted to install Mint 12
[13:16] <KittyBunny> The hard drive is probably corrupting the installation.
[13:16] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Theres your problem.
[13:17] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: What would be the problem?
[13:17] <KittyBunny> Did things install before the SSD replacement?
[13:17] <ThePendulum> I never replaced anything, it's a brand new system
[13:17] <KittyBunny> hmm
[13:17] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Take it back
[13:17] <ThePendulum> But things installed on it, as I said, Windows ran fine and before that I was running Ubuntu fine as well
[13:17] <KittyBunny> hmm
[13:18] <ThePendulum> It would be such an odd coincidence for it to fail right at the moment I am trying to install Mint 12
[13:18] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Do you get any I/O errors?
[13:18] <ThePendulum> Also, Ubuntu and Mint 12 have booted before, but then they show nothing but an empty striped purple or grey screen or a strobe effect
[13:18] <Atamisk> sounds like a video issue
[13:19] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: The system itself boots just fine, up to loading the actual OS
[13:19] <KittyBunny> I can't install Ubuntu from a disc.
[13:19] <KittyBunny> I get I/O errors.
[13:19] <ThePendulum> I installed it from both a CD as well as a flash drive
[13:19] <KittyBunny> Must be that I can't burn discs properly or The disc drive is screwed.
[13:19] <ThePendulum> Atamisk: Graphics card should be alright as well, the live cd runs just fine
[13:19] <KittyBunny> hmm
[13:20] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: That could be in your case, but I get the same results from CDs as well as a flash drive installation :P
[13:20] <KittyBunny> strange
[13:20] <Atamisk> true enough, but if it isn't instaling the right driver on install, it would play havoc with video.
[13:20] <ThePendulum> The only thing I could think of, is indeed the SSD
[13:20] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Nope
[13:20] <KittyBunny> You said the disc doesn't display right.
[13:20] <ThePendulum> But that doesn't explain why the Windows installation fails to load files, as well as the Ubuntu installation at multiple occasions
[13:20] <Atamisk> ture...
[13:21] <KittyBunny> and Windows installations are text based.
[13:21] <ThePendulum> Because as far as I know, no installation needs the hard discs/SSDs before actually installing something
[13:21] <ThePendulum> Text based?
[13:21] <KittyBunny> yes
[13:21] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: The blue screen in Windows
[13:21] <ThePendulum> They seem to have a similar structure as Linux installation
[13:21] <KittyBunny> the one that's used to partition the drive, etc.
[13:21] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: didn't experience a blue screen for years :P
[13:21] <KittyBunny> That's text based.
[13:21] <ThePendulum> Oh
[13:21] <Atamisk> yeah, the newer windows installation setup is a GUI
[13:21] <ThePendulum> Well I hardly ever access it
[13:22] <ThePendulum> Atamisk: It has been a GUI since at least XP?
[13:22] <KittyBunny> Atamisk: It is?
[13:22] <Atamisk> yeah
[13:22] <KittyBunny> Atamisk: I mean right at the beginning.
[13:22] <KittyBunny> where it copies the files to the HDD.
[13:22] <Atamisk> when i installed W7 on my old netbook (HUGE mistake. it now runs arch :P) it was a very slick GUI
[13:22] <KittyBunny> that's text based
[13:23] <Atamisk> no, the whole thing is GUI now, as fr as i remember.
[13:23] <ThePendulum> Atamisk: I never experienced Windows 7 as a huge mistake, different for Vista. But I prefer Ubuntu (when it was still running Gnome 2) or Mint
[13:23] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Ubuntu uses a lot of graphics as it's setup program.
[13:23] <KittyBunny> and you said they don't display right.
[13:23] <c3ll> hey what's up guys
[13:23] <KittyBunny> I suggest you replace your card and see if that fixes the problem.
[13:23] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: The setup itself displays just fine, it completes as well. The fun starts when I try to boot the installed OS
[13:23] <KittyBunny> hmm
[13:23] <KittyBunny> HDD then
[13:24] <ThePendulum> The live disc runs just fine as well, looks great too with Gnome 3, so I feel like ruling out the video card
[13:24] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: I could probably send you one but i've no money.
[13:24] <Atamisk> ThePendulum: I like W7 alright too, but it's a bit ...demanding on a 32-bit netbook :P.
[13:24] <szal> ThePendulum: W2k and XP setup, afair even W98 setup, were partly graphical, W7 setup is fully graphical..  can't say for Vista..  but this is off-topic here ;)
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  i had the same issue with mint 12: live ok, install nok
[13:24] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Were you able to solve it?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> nope
[13:25] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: I basically bricked my entire system, nothing can be installed
[13:25] <Atamisk> have you tried making the hard drive is utterly empty of files and starting completely afresh? i've had times if i didn't completely wipe my HDD down to the MBR, i had issues.
[13:25] <ThePendulum> Atamisk: I formatted it multiple times now.
[13:26] <Atamisk> new partition table and all?
[13:26] <ThePendulum> Yes
[13:26] <Atamisk> hmm
[13:26] <ThePendulum> Could the additional hard drives be an issue?
[13:26] <KittyBunny> Atamisk: Problems only occure when you try to install Windows on a drive that has Linux on it or trying to install a shitty linux os on a drive with windows on it.
[13:26] <KittyBunny> lol
[13:27] <ThePendulum> The OS is installed on the SSD, but I got two 1TB HDDs as well
[13:27] <Atamisk> possibly. dmesg can be accessed during a live session, right guys? maybe check there for obvious errors?
[13:27] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: Then use the HDDs.
[13:27] <ThePendulum> KittyBunny: I could try installing it on one of the HDDs indeed
[13:27] <KamZou> Hello, i have a conflict with my DHCP-DDNS architechture ... 2 linux clients got the same ddns-txt in dhcpd.leases, do you know why ?
[13:27]  * mvv_ looks up
[13:27] <ThePendulum> However, I'll lose all my data, damned D:
[13:27] <mvv_> KittyBunny: does xscreensaver work?
[13:28] <KittyBunny> mvv_: Yes
[13:28] <mvv_> arcsky: yes, ping
[13:28] <Atamisk> as a sidenote, is there anywhere on freenode to get some hardware advice?
[13:29] <ThePendulum> Atamisk: ##hardware :P
[13:29] <KittyBunny> Atamisk: ##hardware
[13:29] <ThePendulum> :D
[13:29] <KittyBunny> Oh shit
[13:29] <Atamisk> lol okay.
[13:29] <KittyBunny> I was too slow
[13:29] <ThePendulum> As usual
[13:29] <KittyBunny> :(
[13:29] <ThePendulum> Last kid in line to be picked for gym classes and all
[13:29] <ThePendulum> Anyway
[13:29] <ThePendulum> I am going to reboot once more, now without the hard drives attached
[13:30] <ThePendulum> Perhaps they interrupt the boot somehow
[13:30] <KittyBunny> mvv_: So ya I would like to lock my computer.
[13:30] <ThePendulum> It must be hard for them now so many of their relatives have died in Thailand
[13:30] <ThePendulum> error : unknown filesystem.
[13:30] <ThePendulum> Y U NO BOOT? D:
[13:30] <KittyBunny> forget it
[13:30] <KittyBunny> thanks for nothing guys
[13:30] <ThePendulum> ?
[13:30]  * KittyBunny reinstalls gnome-screensaver
[13:30] <mvv_> KittyBunny: so manually calling xscreensaver doesn't?
[13:31] <KittyBunny> mvv_: What do you mean?
[13:31] <mvv_> one moment
[13:31] <KittyBunny> k
[13:33] <mvv_> so does running xscreensaver-demo and selecting lock screen work?
[13:34] <KittyBunny> mvv_: Nope.
[13:34] <KittyBunny> I'm using GNOME3 also.
[13:34] <mvv_> so nothing happens?
[13:34] <KittyBunny> mvv_: Nope
[13:34] <mvv_> how annoying
[13:35] <mvv_> use xtrlock instead?
[13:35] <KittyBunny> mvv_: But I want to use the GNOME3 lock
[13:35]  * mvv_ blinks
[13:35] <KittyBunny> How different is it?
[13:35] <KittyBunny> Is it like xlock?
[13:35]  * KittyBunny hates xlock
[13:35] <mvv_> it just locks the screen, nothing more
[13:36] <KittyBunny> hmm
[13:36] <mvv_> read aptitude show xtrlock
[13:36] <KittyBunny> mvv_: Ok I've install it...
[13:36] <KittyBunny> Will it work out of the box?
[13:37] <mvv_> sure
[13:37] <mvv_> type xtrlock
[13:39] <KittyBunny> mvv_: How do I unlock?
[13:40] <mvv_> KittyBunny: type your passwd and hit enter
[13:40] <KittyBunny> k
[13:40] <KittyBunny> Nice!
[13:41] <KittyBunny> mvv_: Ok so how do I link it to the Lock Screen button in GNOME3?
[13:41] <mvv_> i'm not sure, i tend to bind it to a key combo.
[13:41] <mvv_> you'll have to ask gnome3 people
[13:41] <KittyBunny> k
[13:42]  * mvv_ uses e17 which has a nice enough screenlock :)
[13:43] <KittyBunny> k
[13:45] <me-1> hi...what is that dock on left side in unity called..?
[13:46] <xangua> me-1: launcher
[13:46] <BaNzounet> hi guys, i'm using xubuntu 11.04, when i try to compil with g++ he told me i've to use cstdlib instead of varargs, that's what i've done but i still get error : "error: 'exit' was not declared in this scope"
[13:46] <Odaym> he? :P
[13:46] <me-1> xangua,  can i have it horizantly in os x style..?
[13:46] <BaNzounet> what should i include for exit?
[13:46] <xangua> me-1: no
[13:47] <me-1> can i have dock..?
[13:47] <xangua> me-1: but i saw a modified unity plugin on omgubuntu blog that you can put down
[13:47] <me-1> any link please
[13:47] <xangua> me-1: don't remember if it was on omg!ubuntu! or webupd8 blog, one of those ;)
[13:48] <mvv_> BaNzounet: eh, tried gcc instead of g++?
[13:48] <BaNzounet> even with gcc i've got the problem
[13:48] <BaNzounet> ls
[13:48] <BaNzounet> ops
[13:49] <mvv_> what are you trying to compile?
[13:49] <BaNzounet> Projet from school
[13:50] <mvv_> can you upload it or pastebin it?
[13:50] <BaNzounet> y i can
[13:51] <mvv_> then do that.
[13:52] <iceroot> BaNzounet: ##c++
[13:52] <mvv_> iceroot: /maybe/
[13:53] <BaNzounet> http://91.121.76.50/~alex/project.zip
[13:53] <BaNzounet> kk
[13:53] <guidov> how do i access my /home/username directory that was encrypted by ubuntu from a livecd (xubuntu)?
[13:54] <mvv_> iceroot: ahh you were right,
[13:54] <mvv_> guidov: were you using LVM?
[13:55] <mvv_> BaNzounet: btw jesus christ this code sucks. exit(3) is defined in stdlib.h
[13:55] <oCean> mvv_: control your language here, please
[13:56] <mvv_> oCean: i was.
[13:56] <guidov> mvv_, yeah i think so
[13:56] <oCean> mvv_: no swearing here, thanks
[13:56] <ThePendulum> I just reinstalled Ubuntu, it shows a dark purple 'strobe' when I boot it
[13:57] <BaNzounet> mvv_ my teacher did it :D
[13:57] <Pumpkin->  http://91.121.76.50/~alex/project.zip
[13:57] <Pumpkin->  http://91.121.76.50/~alex/project.zip
[13:57] <ThePendulum> On the very top, there is a small row of about 2px that seems to be displaying correct
[13:57] <Pumpkin-> oops
[13:57] <mvv_> BaNzounet: you have a buffer overflow 10 lines into your main function
[13:57] <FloodBot1> Pumpkin-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <BaNzounet> it's usin old qt3 lib
[13:57] <BaNzounet> tjat's awfull
[13:57] <mvv_> BaNzounet: honestly? presumably not your programming teacher i hope?
[13:57] <iceroot> mvv_: BaNzounet ##c++ for c++ discussions
[13:58] <BaNzounet> Unix teacher
[13:58] <oCean> mvv_: BaNzounet or even ##programming, it's not an ubuntu issue
[13:58] <BaNzounet> kk
[14:04] <Neldogz> I seem to be experiencing an intermittant boot problem. Can someone help me? I cant find anything in the log files. My system sometimes restarts upon boot
[14:05] <jabbadoo> Ok. So I try to boot a Ubuntu Server LTS from iso image on kvm. When I start the installation it says "trying to enable frame buffer", and then everything goes pitch black. Is there anyway to turn off frame buffer, and what would that result in?
[14:05] <bullgard4> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources: "Xresources and Xdefaults are user-level configuration dotfiles, typically located at ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xdefaults. They can be used to set X resources, which are configuration parameters for X client applications. ... Note: Using ~/.Xdefaults is deprecated"  <-- Does this apply to Ubuntu 11.10 as well, particularly "Using ~/.Xdefaults is...
[14:05] <bullgard4> ...deprecated"?
[14:07] <psychognite> quit()
[14:07] <psychognite> quit:
[14:08] <bullgard4> Neldogz: The reboot process should reflect in /var/log/ files I think.
[14:09] <Neldogz> bullgard4: im looking at boot.log but i dont see anything out of the normal. Is there anywhere else?
[14:10] <cgtdk>  /quit
[14:10] <bullgard4> Neldogz: Yes. /var/log/dmesg, /var/log/demesg.0, /var/log7syslog.
[14:10] <Guest11650> Hello, I need a portable ftp server that I can launch with a php script. Anyone knows one?
[14:10] <bullgard4> Neldogz: Yes. /var/log/dmesg, /var/log/demesg.0, /var/log/syslog.
[14:10] <lyper> Anyone have recommendation for UI in Ubuntu that is fairly minimalistic and does work with dual screen extended view? I tried XFCE and it didn't work for extended view.
[14:11] <mvv_> guest23886: vsftpd
[14:11] <nodestool> what kind of mail folder does Thunderbird Use?
[14:11] <guest23886> mw_: ?
[14:11] <nodestool> for POP3 like, Maildir or Mbox or whatever?
[14:11] <mvv_> it can use maildir or mbox i believe
[14:12] <najam> q
[14:12] <najam> q
[14:13] <deej1976> lyper: lxde
[14:13] <bullgard4> nodestool: http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/wiki/Dokumentation
[14:13] <najam> q
[14:13] <deej1976> !info lubuntu-desktop
[14:13] <najam> q
[14:14] <deej1976> najam: please stop
[14:14] <nodestool> thanks bullgard4 mvv_
[14:14] <najam> endcmd '^najam najamsa ;/^msg nickserv identify password' Freenode
[14:14] <najam>  /SERVER ADD -auto -network Freenode irc.freenode.net 6667
[14:14] <guidov> so since today my ubuntu system gets a kernel panic right after i see the login screen. how do i diagnose this? i've now booted to a live cd and am able to access the log files in /var/log. what should i do?
[14:14] <guidov> i already ran memtest and everything is ok
[14:14] <najam> sorry guys, was just trying to learn irssi :(
[14:14] <elgaton> guidov: let me check
[14:15] <deej1976> najam: try /join #test
[14:15] <nodestool> najam: there is an irssi channel :)
[14:15] <lyper> deej1976, I am right now on Ubuntu 11.10 and I do sudo aptitude install lxde
[14:15] <ct529> hi everybody. I have a problem here: booting the system taken approx 40 seconds from start to the network card module, then sometimes the bootup  hangs in there for something like 2 minutes (120 seconds), before getting to the next stage ( EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted.) Any clue?
[14:15] <billy-bob> where can i get me some gimp fonts?
[14:15] <lyper> it just says sudo: aptitude: command not found
[14:15] <deej1976> lyper: For the full desktop sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <mvv_> guidov: and was there anything in the logs?
[14:16] <elgaton> guidov: this is for Oopses but should help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelOops
[14:16] <guidov> mvv_, which log file should i check?
[14:16] <najam> nodestool: thanks
[14:16] <hwilde> !info python-uno lucid
[14:16] <mvv_> /var/log/messages is a good start
[14:16] <lyper> deej1976, gotcha, thanks
[14:16] <lyper> woah, 338mb download
[14:16] <hwilde> !info python-uno natty
[14:17] <lyper> Is lubuntu like... a whole new distro, and not a UI?
[14:17] <deej1976> guidov: /var/log/kern.log is another one
[14:17] <hwilde> !info python-uno oneiric
[14:17] <Atamisk> lyper: it's ubuntu with LXDE, so basically just a UI/
[14:18] <jasonbassett> Hello folks
[14:18] <najam> q
[14:18] <lyper> najam, go test irssi in another channel, please.
[14:18] <najam> q
[14:18] <najam> quit
[14:18] <najam> quit
[14:19] <FloodBot1> najam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <najam> q
[14:19] <hwilde> !package provides python-uno
[14:19] <iceroot> najam: stop it
[14:19] <guidov> i don't have a /var/log/messages, i do have a kern.log but there isn't anything there about the kernel panic
[14:19] <jasonbassett> I am using latest Ubuntu 11.10 and need to increase size of mouse pointers for a visually impaired user.  Have not found any easy way to do this and installing other themes are not providing the required large pointers.  Any ideas?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> najam  type /quit
[14:20] <hwilde> !ask | eliao
[14:20] <lyper> ANyway, thanks guys.
[14:20] <flan_suse> I can't get VVVVVV to start on Ubuntu 10.04. It just says "Press action to start" but no key I press does anything.
[14:21] <mvv_> jasonbassett: doesn't really help you but e17 has an option to change the size :)
[14:21] <eliao> !info python-openoffice
[14:22] <Stanley00> jasonbassett: I think the gnome-tweak-tool can change the pointer, did you try this?
[14:23] <guidov> mvv_, i don't have a /var/log/messages and there is nothing special in the log files. if i make a picture of the kernel panic screen and i show it to you, do you think you can help me?
[14:23] <mvv_> possibly
[14:23] <guidov> it would make sense if it's a HDD error but fsck doesn't show any problems and i can access the filesystem with a live cd
[14:23] <guidov> so i don't really know
[14:23] <guidov> ok, wait
[14:24] <Muhammad> SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT CHATZ TOURETTE'S
[14:24] <Muhammad> KFJEDKFJDKF
[14:24] <Muhammad> DFDF
[14:24] <Muhammad> DFDF
[14:24] <Muhammad> DF
[14:24] <FloodBot1> Muhammad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <M4d3L1> what is the best to install for web server… ubuntu lst or 11.10?
[14:24] <jasonbassett> oh that did it Stanley00
[14:24] <jasonbassett> thanks
[14:24] <Stanley00> jasonbassett: you are welcome :)
[14:24] <deej1976> M4d3L1: Production Server LTS, Development 11.10
[14:25] <M4d3L1> ok ty
[14:25] <methylenedioxy> Has anyone experienced Qt apps hanging/crashing X when in Gnome or Xfce? I fixed it by rm'ing ~/.local and ~/.config but I could never pinpoint the issue
[14:26] <methylenedioxy> Infinite loop errors but I couldn't get any apps to run in gdb, just crashed
[14:28] <jasonbassett> Actually gnome-tweak-tool seems to only change the cursors for some apps, not all
[14:28] <guidov> mvv_, http://i.imgur.com/rnGLq.jpg
[14:29] <mvv_> guidov: well that sure /looks/ like a kernel bug
[14:30] <mvv_> personally i'd try the latest kernel version
[14:30] <guidov> ok, so it isn't necessarily a hardware failure?
[14:30] <guidov> it's strange because last night it still ran fine, shut it down, booted it up today and it fails
[14:31] <guidov> i don't really remember if i ran the update manager though
[14:31] <methylenedioxy> What hardware is suspect?
[14:31] <mvv_> run another OS for a while and see if it happens again
[14:31] <methylenedioxy> Is/was
[14:31] <guidov> yeah, ok
[14:31] <SpenserWilde> What's the package for libxml?
[14:32] <guidov> is it safe to assume that fsck would mention any errors when running in on my hdd? if not, is there any other disk checking software?
[14:32] <guidov> just to make sure it isn't an hdd error
[14:32] <methylenedioxy> SpenserWilde, libxml2? :)
[14:32] <mvv_> guidov: badblocks
[14:32] <methylenedioxy> You can tab-complete after you type 'sudo apt-get install' and get a list
[14:33] <methylenedioxy> Er install libxml
[14:33] <guidov> ok, thanks
[14:33] <methylenedioxy> Or do 'apt-cache search libxml'
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> what i did
[14:34] <SpenserWilde> methylenedioxy, strange.. It turns I have already installed it but Plone doesn't seem to accept it.. :\
[14:35] <methylenedioxy> oh uh
[14:37] <methylenedioxy> Hold on, let me find the Plone package haha
[14:37] <CarlFK> can someone give me an example of what apt-get install -o is used for?
[14:37] <methylenedioxy> I have no idea what it is
[14:38] <iceroot> CarlFK: man apt-get
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> plone is some zope thing, but don't know what that is, either ;)
[14:38] <genn> hi.  how can i set mplayer as the default media player.  it's not showing up in the 'other applications'  right click menu & we don't have the option to add a command anymore
[14:38] <CarlFK> iceroot: there are no examples there
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> MonkeyDust, did you install it with apt or Software Center
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> I'm not sure which is the appropriate package to check
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> methylenedioxy  looked it up with apt-cache policy
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> You can use apt-cache show
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> It will list the depends
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> show <package>
[14:39] <methylenedioxy> Oh you got it, nvm
[14:40] <iceroot> CarlFK:      # apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade
[14:40] <iceroot> CarlFK: http://lists.debian.org/deity/2002/09/msg00037.html
[14:40] <methylenedioxy> -o is for that "Advanced Options" box in Synaptic that warned not to touch it, if you remember that :p
[14:40] <methylenedioxy> Those options
[14:41] <iceroot> CarlFK: also there are many examples in the debian-documentations (atm i only have the german links)
[14:42] <CarlFK> iceroot: um.. that link you gave looks like someone with the same problem as me: what the docs say don't seem to work
[14:42] <iceroot> CarlFK: i just searched for "apt-get -o" in google (important are the "")
[14:43] <CarlFK> iceroot: yeah, me too.
[14:43] <CarlFK> iceroot:  here is exactly what I am stuck on:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid-deb-proxy/+question/179075
[14:45] <psychognite> cn any1 here temme how to login any account eg. gmail using terminal
[14:45] <iceroot> CarlFK: i aggree with #3 on that post
[14:45] <psychognite> please help me out
[14:45] <deej1976> psychognite: elink console web browser
[14:45] <psychognite> can we use curl
[14:45] <iceroot> psychognite: have a look at "mutt"
[14:45] <CarlFK> iceroot: yes, but that is just working around not understanding how -o is spozed to work.
[14:46] <Doodie> i m trying to run wifi on my Lenovo but no solution. It has RLT8111 PCI.installed new driver but still no way through
[14:46] <iceroot> psychognite: cli-based mailprogram which sucks less compared to all other clients
[14:46] <hdon> hi guys, just installed 11 for my parents. any way to speed up dash home? this is a fast enough machine i feel like maybe it is indexing the disk and will be faster later?
[14:46] <iceroot> CarlFK: yes, sorry i dont kn0ow too, never used it
[14:46] <CarlFK> iceroot: thanks for trying
[14:46] <Neldogz> can i delete dmsg dmesg.0 and boot.log files?
[14:47] <psychognite> thn hw to use mutt to login
[14:47] <Doodie> any help?
[14:47] <zxiest> Hey everybody
[14:47] <zxiest> Does anyone know how I can prevent "mountall" from being called upon startup?
[14:47] <e01> what is name of indicator that put maximize,restore,minimize buttons in the panel
[14:47] <psychognite> i wanna log gmail account
[14:47] <psychognite> or any database related site
[14:48] <deej1976> psychognite: sudo apt-get install elinks ; elinks mail.google.com and login
[14:48] <methylenedioxy> zxiest, I don't think it is.. doesn't udisks handle that
[14:48] <KittyBunny> kkkkkkkkk
[14:48] <ThePendulum> Anyone wants to dance with me? My monitor has turned into a very decent disco strobe
[14:48] <methylenedioxy> well I'm on Xfce so IDK about that
[14:48] <psychognite> what about using mutt
[14:48] <methylenedioxy> ThePendulum, i915?
[14:48] <zxiest> methylenedioxy I see "mountall" being called and failing
[14:48] <psychognite> elink yep it is alternate option
[14:48] <methylenedioxy> zxiest, oh, nvm then
[14:48] <deej1976> psychognite: Need to enable imap access in gmail
[14:48] <CarlFK> zxiest: you can set options in fstab to not mount that line, prolly what you want.  -auto I think
[14:49] <ThePendulum> methylenedioxy: You mean the i915 motherboard?
[14:49] <psychognite> yep imap acces
[14:49] <psychognite> r8 bingo
[14:49] <methylenedioxy> A mobo with i915 graphics
[14:49] <methylenedioxy> 950GMA 915 etc
[14:49] <KittyBunny> ThePendulum: lol
[14:49] <methylenedioxy> intel drivers
[14:49] <ThePendulum> methylenedioxy: Nah, I am using the Radeon 6850
[14:49] <methylenedioxy> mmk
[14:49] <XGaryG> How do I get Thunderbird to access my Google address book?
[14:50] <methylenedioxy> you can export it from Gmail can't you
[14:50] <zxiest> CarlFK I don't want auto mount... -auto will disable it?
[14:50] <CarlFK> zxiest: also, I am not sure you will have a functioning system if you don't mount anything.  but maybe thats what rescue mode is.
[14:50] <e01> anybody?
[14:50] <elgaton> XGaryG: use the Lightning extension
[14:50] <ThePendulum> What usually causes Ubuntu to 'strobe' right after booting?
[14:50] <methylenedioxy> Would there be an init rule for calling mount?
[14:50] <elgaton> XGaryG: That may help - not tested personally
[14:50] <methylenedioxy> ThePendulum, I asked because on i915 it was lack of backlight control support
[14:50] <zxiest> CarlFK well, here's the problem. My current drive works. But when I attach another drive which also has /etc/fstab, it attempts to load the fstab of the other drive as well
[14:50] <methylenedioxy> Hardware control*
[14:50] <CarlFK> zxiest:        noauto Can only be mounted explicitly (i.e., the -a option will not cause the filesystem to be mounted).
[14:50] <ThePendulum> Or more importantly, how do I solve it
[14:50] <XGaryG> I'll check. Thanks.
[14:51] <CarlFK> zxiest: no it isn't ;/
[14:51] <methylenedioxy> It looked like the monitor was dying or the cable was loose on boot
[14:51] <methylenedioxy> Backlight*
[14:51] <genn> anyone know how i can set mplayer as the default media player?  it's not showing up in the 'other applications'  list & i no longer have the use a command option
[14:51] <CarlFK> zxiest: it may be booting your other drive.  (there is only one /etc/fstab... )
[14:51] <zxiest> CarlFK I see... Let me see what to do about this :-)
[14:51] <zxiest> THanks
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> genn  in control center, you may find 'Preferred applications'
[14:52] <Neldogz> guys, can i delete boot.log and dmseg ?
[14:52] <Neldogz> also dmseg.0 ?
[14:52] <methylenedioxy> yes
[14:53] <methylenedioxy> if you have no use for them
[14:53] <methylenedioxy> they'll just be refilled though, you can play with logrotate if you want to remove them entirely
[14:53] <Neldogz> im tryign to pinpoint an intermittant boot problem but I cant find it
[14:53] <methylenedioxy> or remove the old logs
[14:53] <methylenedioxy> what's the problem?
[14:54] <methylenedioxy> and why would you want then to delete the logs
[14:54] <genn> MonkeyDust: sorry ... control center?
[14:54] <Neldogz> sometimes when the machine boots, it goes to grub and starts to load the OS and restarts.. The machine then boots back up again and sits at grub until i press enter
[14:55] <cgtdk> Hello. I have setup ProFTPd and I want a user to have access to one other folder than their homefolder (a mounted NTFS harddrive). I have tried mounting it in (mount --bind /media/drivename /home/theuser/afolder), but when I try to access the folder I have mounted it in I get this: 550 afolder: No such file or directory error failed to retrieve directory listing. What to do?
[14:55] <Neldogz> I cant figure out whats going on.. Im sure its something that is failing and the system is then disabling whatever it is
[14:55] <methylenedioxy> reboot it into recovery mode
[14:55] <methylenedioxy> single user mode
[14:55] <methylenedioxy> you should preserve the log that way
[14:55] <methylenedioxy> er choose recovery when it comes back  up
[14:55] <methylenedioxy> the second tme
[14:55] <Neldogz> recovery mode preserves the failed boot.log?
[14:56] <methylenedioxy> ah it isn't rotated, nevermind
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> genn  it's system settings > system info
[14:57] <genn> MonkeyDust: thanks.  mplayer's not showing up as a selectable option there either
[14:57] <methylenedioxy> genn, you could also just install grun or something similar :)
[14:57] <methylenedioxy> well not grun but
[14:57] <lupuss> Hi there. I have upgraded to 11.10 and my cd-rom isn't being recognized, what can I do please?
[14:57] <methylenedioxy> another run dialog
[14:57] <_calum> hi. I wish to create a single firewall rule to drop all packets to all ports on my system. Is the best way to use iptables or an iptables graphical program?
[14:58] <Neldogz> methylenedioxy, after booting into recovery mode what should i do
[14:58] <elgaton> _calum: use ufw (the default Ubuntu firewall)
[14:58] <methylenedioxy> You can mount /var if necessary and poke around there
[14:58] <edbian> _calum: Since it's such a simple tool and you're new to this use a GUI frontend
[14:58] <genn> methylenedioxy: thanks, i'd rather not have to type a command every time.
[14:58] <methylenedioxy> genn, I just mean bind another app to a shortcut
[14:58] <_calum> edbian:WIll it block ports 0 - 65535 if I set a default deny rule?
[14:59] <methylenedioxy> If all else fails wipe your settings folders, I would wager the box to use a term will come back
[14:59] <ollii> hey ... on ubuntu server 10.04 i used aliases for my network interface...like auto eth0:foo \n iface eth0:foo inet dhcp
[14:59] <methylenedioxy> But that should be in gconf somewhere, no?
[14:59] <edbian> _calum: it should block all ports (even those greater than 65535)
[14:59] <ollii> on 11.10 these aliases are ignored
[14:59] <ollii> is that a bug or was it moved somewhere?
[14:59] <_calum> thanks edbian
[14:59] <Anubis> how can i redirect shorewall messages from /var/log/messages to /var/log/shorewall.log ?
[15:00] <dabukalam> My wifi's stopped working after compiling and unloading the compatwireless drivers from source. Is there an easy way to restore the original driver?
[15:00] <Anubis> i don't want that shorewall messages to appear in syslog, just in /var/log/shorewall.log
[15:00] <ikonia> dabukalam: why did you replace them ?
[15:00] <ollii> something like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870364
[15:01] <dabukalam> ikonia: patched something
[15:01] <ikonia> dabukalam: did you overwrite the existing modules or put the new one in a different place
[15:02] <dabukalam> i did sudo make unload
[15:02] <dabukalam> !wireless
[15:02] <methylenedioxy> dabukalam, should be prefixed with linux-backports-modules-wireless
[15:02] <ikonia> dabukalam: that's not what I asked
[15:02] <methylenedioxy> The compat package I mean
[15:02] <ikonia> dabukalam: did you overwrite the existing modules or put the new ones in a different location
[15:02] <dabukalam> ikonia: No idea.
[15:03] <ikonia> dabukalam: ok, then I suspect you overwrote them, in which case they are gone
[15:03] <dabukalam> ikonia: beautiful.
[15:03] <dabukalam> ikonia: what now?
[15:03] <ikonia> dabukalam: what do you mean, "now what"
[15:04] <methylenedioxy> just reinstall the package from the repos, should work no?
[15:04] <methylenedioxy> Or from your package cache
[15:04] <llutz> Anubis: doesn't use shorewall use the kernel-facility to log? you can't easily redirect that then.
[15:04] <dabukalam> ikonia: i didn't say now what, I said "what now?". And I meant how can I get the orginal drivers.
[15:05] <lupuss> Hi there. I have upgraded to 11.10 and my cd-rom isn't being recognized, what can I do please?
[15:05] <mvv_> llutz, Anubis: it's easy enough to get shorewall to log to a file
[15:05] <ikonia> dabukalam: you've overwrote them, you can try re-installing the original package, however I don't believe that will work as some of the libraries will have been changed, but you're welcome to try it
[15:05] <cgtdk> How can I see how much space is left on a mounted device in Nautilus?
[15:05] <cgtdk> Nevermind
[15:06] <dabukalam> ikonia: where can I find the original package? In the repos?
[15:06] <ikonia> yes
[15:06] <dabukalam> methylenedioxy: I can't find the driver in the repos
[15:06] <mvv_> Anubis: look around for see shorewall+ulog
[15:06] <dabukalam> ikonia: not there...
[15:06] <ikonia> dabukalam: it is
[15:06] <ppcblaster> I have  11.10 installed .then installed Hauppauge pvr 350 pci card, and can't figure out how to watch tv. NTSC US
[15:06] <dabukalam> it's called iwlagn
[15:06] <methylenedioxy> It's called linux-backports-modules-wireless-
[15:06] <Anubis> mvv: i modified rsyslog.conf to send kern.* to /var/log/shorewall.log
[15:06] <methylenedioxy> -(release)
[15:06] <mvv_> Anubis: that solution sucks.
[15:07] <dabukalam> ah ok thanks
[15:07] <Anubis> mvv: ok, i'll look to what you said
[15:07] <andrey__> hello
[15:07] <mvv_> hello
[15:08] <andrey__> how to get a list with installed packages? I mean installed by me with no auto?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> dpkg -l|grep ii
[15:09] <mvv_> MonkeyDust: eh, now
[15:09] <mvv_> MonkeyDust: that's including automatically installed due to dependencies...
[15:09] <dabukalam> methylenedioxy: which repo is that in? backports?
[15:09] <dabukalam> ikonia: ^
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ok
[15:10] <methylenedioxy> dabukalam, yeah I imagine
[15:10] <methylenedioxy> mvv_, do you need something parsable?
[15:10] <methylenedioxy> Synaptic can show you if you create a custom filter
[15:11] <methylenedioxy> I think it already has one actually
[15:11] <andrey__> "dpkg -l|grep ii" is good idea. but what about aptitude?
[15:11] <SpenserWilde> Where can I learn about any upcoming Ubuntu classroom sessions (if they are still organized)?
[15:11] <mvv_> andrey__: aptitude search ~i|egrep -v '^i A' # if you're an aptitude user
[15:11] <chroot> join
[15:12] <andrey__> yea, that's good. thank you
[15:13] <chroot> hi, how to join android
[15:13] <ikonia> chroot: /join #android
[15:14] <ikonia> chroot: /join #freenode for IRC help
[15:14] <pepee> I get this oops: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/25/252
[15:14] <dabukalam> ikonia, methylenedioxy, I'm on Oneiric, and I can't find the package in apt.
[15:14] <ikonia> dabukalam: to be honest, you should have done this properly before rushing in, it's up to you how you undo it
[15:14] <weeb> is there a way to add desktop applet in unity ?
[15:14] <chroot> ikonia, i got nothing, i am use Xchat client.
[15:14] <mvv_> ahh, a less retarded command than the one i suggested would have been aptitude search '~i!~M'
[15:15] <ikonia> chroot: /join #freenode for irc help
[15:15] <dario__> !lista
[15:15] <chroot> ikonia, still, i got nothing when i type the command you paste,
[15:16] <chroot> and also, i am using xchat to connect to irc, is this a problem?  i  mean the client.
[15:16] <ikonia> chroot: xchat opens each channel in a new tab, look at the new tabs
[15:18] <Arkenklo> so, in 11.10 with gnome classic, where have all the settings gone?
[15:18] <pepee> I get this oops: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/25/252
[15:18] <Arkenklo> where, for an example, is compiz settings?
[15:18] <TXR> hey, I'm running into a problem, whenever I try to import or create a openVPN  connection all the settings are grayed out.. I'm using gnome 3.2
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Arkenklo  CCSM
[15:18] <ikonia> pepee: what do you want us to do about it ?
[15:19] <Arkenklo> MonkeyDust: where can I find that?
[15:19] <pepee> ikonia, i want someone to fix it
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Arkenklo  guess you have to install it, first
[15:19] <Arkenklo> oh, so it's just missing
[15:19] <Arkenklo> that's odd, but alright
[15:19] <ikonia> pepee: what version of ubuntu is it ?
[15:19] <inashdeen> hi, i lightdm login session, hoe can i change the name of GNOME to something else, say Gnome-shell
[15:20] <pepee> ikonia, oneiric
[15:20] <ikonia> then log a bug on launchpad.net for it against the oneiric kernel
[15:21] <pepee> uhm, i'm lazy
[15:21] <ikonia> pepee: then you won't get any help.
[15:21] <Arkenklo> be aware that ignorant is not the same as lazy
[15:21] <ikonia> Arkenklo: what ?
[15:22] <pepee> ^
[15:22] <Arkenklo> eh
[15:22] <lupuss> Hi there. Any help would be appreciated. I have upgraded to 11.10 and my cd-rom isn't being recognized.
[15:23] <ikonia> lupuss: did you not have the same problem with your network card earlier ?
[15:23] <pepee> lupuss, check the md5
[15:23] <gwb> HI -- If I'm logged in and then log in Guest on top of my session (click on my name and select Guest), system CPu goes nuts (in Xorg).  Bug or feature?
[15:23] <ikonia> 1
[15:23] <lupuss> not really ikonia: I don't know what the problem is with the internet, but there is a dude trying to help me already with pvt messages
[15:23] <lupuss> pepee: no clue what md5 is
[15:23] <pepee> lupuss, forget it..
[15:24] <ikonia> lupuss: you did have this same problem with your network card earlier, you couldn't see your network device
[15:24] <lupuss> any idea pepee ?
[15:24] <pepee> lupuss, do you mean your cd reader?
[15:24] <lupuss> yes, my cd reader
[15:24] <lupuss> different machine ikonia
[15:24] <BarkingFish> lupuss: Is this only in the desktop?
[15:24] <ikonia> lupuss: are you sure your hardware is ok, as cdrom not working, network card not working, all seems a bit of coincidence
[15:24] <ikonia> lupuss: could you define why it's not working ?
[15:25] <lupuss> network ain't working on laptop. cd-rom on desktop
[15:25] <lupuss> it's not working cause I try to burn a cd  (Write to Disc), and it doesn't regocnize nothing
[15:25] <ikonia> lupuss: could you please define how you are thinking it's not working
[15:26] <ikonia> lupuss: can it read cd's ?
[15:27] <magn3ts> Did the golly dratted GNOME3 change the key it reads for window buttons, or is there some other reason that it's kindly reverted to only giving me a close button?
[15:27] <lupuss> lemme try ikonia
[15:27] <lupine_85> hmm, it seems that the dhclient provided with the ubuntu server iso retries *forever* for IPv6 connectivity?
[15:27] <cablop> i have this problem
[15:27] <pepee> lupine_85, is networkmanager
[15:27] <lupine_85> I've got it stalling the installation ('server' ISO), currently with an interval of 125080ms
[15:28] <zelda> whats the better nvidia driver to use?
[15:28] <lupine_85> there is no NetworkManager process
[15:28] <zelda> I have 5 choices.
[15:28] <lupine_85> it's currently doing dhclient -6 -S -cf /var/lib/netcfg/dhclient6.conf -s
[15:28] <lupuss> ikonia it's not reading aswell
[15:28] <cablop> ihave this problem: i have my files in a luks-lvm encrypted disk, the ubuntu is installed on it, but it is 64bit, i need to move the disk to another cpu, but that other one is 32bit... i need to reinstall the linux on that machine... but... but i don't want to lose my files, and to backup them is not an option
[15:28] <cablop> any suggestion?
[15:28] <ikonia> lupuss: try booting a cdrom - that will tell you if the drive has a problem, or it's software related
[15:29] <lupine_85> (the config-file is basically empty aprt from setting the vendor-class-identifier and dhcp-client-identifier)
[15:29] <pepee> lupine_85, service NetworkManager stop
[15:29] <lupine_85> pepee, there is no networkmanager
[15:29] <deej1976> I'm waving a white flag to lupuss network card. commmented out eth0/1 from 70-persistent-network.rules, after reboot nothing. lspci shows Wireless broadcom no Wired card. Bios doesn't appear to be disabled
[15:29] <lupine_85> at this point, there is no 'service' binary
[15:29] <lupuss> in order to do so I'll need a bootable Cdrom, right ? or not necesseraly   ?
[15:29] <cablop> how can i activate the luks and the lvm at install time?
[15:30] <lupine_85> it's a bug in the dhclient software, is all
[15:30] <zelda> brb
[15:30] <deej1976> Ask him to try LiveCD, found desktop CD broke. Now creating liveUSB stick to see if that picks up network.
[15:31] <cablop> hum
[15:31] <cablop> how can i install ubuntu on a existing lvm?
[15:31] <lupine_85> never mind, I'll report a bug
[15:32] <pepee> /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
[15:32] <lupine_85> pepee, it doesn't exist
[15:32] <lupine_85> there are 5 files in that directory
[15:32] <lupine_85> cryptdiscs stuff and pcmciautils
[15:32] <psychognite> cn any one hv idea bot nebero firewall
[15:33] <pepee> lupine_85, ubuntu oneiric, no?
[15:33] <lupine_85> pepee, server install ISO
[15:33] <pepee> ah
[15:33] <lupine_85> in the early stages
[15:33] <lupine_85> specifically, trying to get a DHCP lease
[15:34] <psychognite> please temme best proxy tool to bypass block sites fro firewall
[15:34] <lupine_85> psychognite, ssh
[15:36] <psychognite> how to established it sir lupine_85
[15:37] <bizrt> SOS can anyone help? i can not boot into my linux
[15:38] <svip> What is the command line for System Settings?
[15:38] <cablop> i have this problem: i have my files in a luks-lvm encrypted disk, the ubuntu installed on it is 64bit, i need to move the disk to another cpu, and install a 32bit linux on it, there's no way to backup files at the moment, how can i accomplish that?
[15:38] <svip> :( 11.10 ruined my wacom setting.
[15:38] <pepee> bizrt, what does happen when you try booting it?
[15:39] <pepee> svip, deleted xorg.conf?
[15:39] <lupuss> deej1976: tried livecd from usb stick and network is working!
[15:40] <svip> pepee: Not exactly.
[15:40] <psychognite> hw to reset custom command to default in terminal
[15:40] <Odaym> strange, I type this line into the CLI and it takes effect, "export PS1="\[$(tput setaf 1)\]\u@\h:\w $ \[$(tput sgr0)\]", then when I want go to .bashrc and enter it, source .bashrc and then reset or close and reopen, it doesn't take effect
[15:40] <deej1976> lupuss: Possible the easiest route is to backup your data and reinstall
[15:40] <linds6630> Hi I'm using 11.10, just did some updates last night that seem to have broken gnome shell. dmesg  tells me over and over "Composite sync not supported" - how can i fix this
[15:40] <pepee> Psychobudgie, alias? unalias
[15:40] <svip> pepee: http://pastebin.com/egJNXXAU << This is how I set up my set up wacom.
[15:41] <XGaryG> I had Evolution set up, but switched to FireFox/Thunderbird. What would I use to have the calendar display events now?
[15:42] <lupuss> deej1976: yeah,that's what I'll just do.
[15:43] <lupuss> If anyone has the faster route, I'd be great
[15:43] <pepee> svip, sorry, I have no idea about that
[15:44] <mpeddi> Hello, does anyone know how to disable icons in the chat window?
[15:44] <pepee> lupuss, check what device do you have, install correct driver
[15:45] <mpeddi> Emapthy chat
[15:45] <pepee> broadcom drivers are problematic
[15:45] <mpeddi> very large icons are annoying
[15:46] <XGaryG> I liked having the events display below the calender when you click on the time.
[15:49] <Arkenklo> I've changed to gnome classic and I don't know how to shut my computer off anymore
[15:49] <Arkenklo> guess shutdown -hP now will do
[15:49] <mpeddi> how did you change to gnome classic?
[15:50] <linds6630> Hi I'm using 11.10, just did some updates last night that seem to have broken gnome shell. dmesg  tells me over and over "Composite sync not supported" - how can i fix this - using an Intel 915GM - was working before i rebooted after the updates..
[15:51] <XGaryG> Arkenklo: Where you have the option to log off, press the <ctrl> and <alt> keys.
[15:51] <zykotick9> !notunity | mpeddi
[15:52] <mpeddi> Thank you
[15:52] <bizrt> pepee i will try some commands that told me and if not working i will come back to ask you :)
[15:53] <pepee> bizrt, ok
[15:53] <linds6630> Can someone give me anything? How can I go about rolling back the updates.. or finding out what was updated to get an older version.. something to fix my computer.. would be appreciated
[15:53] <mcbaine> 8-) hi there
[15:53] <office3> I'm troubleshooting a friend's computer that someone else screwed up, it asks for Ctrl-I on reboot, and it's giving me a RAID setup menu. It's showing the RAID Volume 0 set to RAID1 with status "Rebuild" I'm going to try to fix it, if not, recover her files with a live CD. Thoughts? RAID experts?
[15:53] <pepee> linds6630, driver problem, probably
[15:54] <linds6630> I've gotten that far.. how do I fix it
[15:54] <pepee> linds6630, you can check what packages where updates from /var/log/apt/history.log
[15:54] <zykotick9> linds6630, when you startup do you see Grub?  If so, do you have an older kernel listed?  If so, have you tried it to see if gnome-shell works there?  Just something to try, no idea if it will help.
[15:55] <spinx60> inguy
[15:55] <linds6630> I'll try that, zykotick9 thanks
[15:55] <pepee> s/where/were
[15:56] <mcbaine> linds6630:  http://open.spotify.com/track/79Fo7OKX1gqeECWHxX6kJj
[15:57] <erwan>  /join #openstreemap-fr
[15:57] <h2010n> Hi all
[15:57] <OY1R> using Ubuntu 10.04 on one laptop, one day all networking(Wired/wireless) stopped working
[15:57] <erwan>  /join #openstreetmap-fr
[15:57] <erwan> Hello
[15:57] <h2010n> i need to insall my  DLINK dwa525 n15 wireless driver what can i do?
[15:58] <XGaryG> The Ubuntu site says you can access your calendar with Thunderbird?
[15:58] <mcbaine> linds6630: ... Note the name of the track !
[15:58] <SpenserWilde> I installed synaptic, but it's not giving me admin permessions when I start it. How do I fix that?
[15:58] <erwan>  /join #osm-fr
[15:58] <h2010n> i need to insall my  DLINK dwa525 n15 wireless driver what can i do?
[15:58] <tewk_> fvwm-crystal default font size in oneiric is too big, effects konsole, firefox, thunderbird, etc, how do i fix that?
[15:58] <h2010n> who can help me?
[15:59] <pepee> OY1R try reconfiguring NetworkManager
[15:59] <ubuntu_> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu on my 2x IDE HDD configuration. I already have winXP on sda. Would it be be best to install /boot on sda so that if I remove sdb, grub will still be able to boot up xp? Thanks
[15:59] <h2010n> anyone have quesation!
[15:59] <h2010n> who can help me?
[15:59] <deej1976> !patience | h2010n
[16:00] <h2010n> thanks !!
[16:00] <StepNjump> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu on my 2x IDE HDD configuration. I already have winXP on sda. Would it be be best to install /boot on sda so that if I remove sdb, grub will still be able to boot up xp? Thanks
[16:00] <h2010n> i go to #archlinux!
[16:00] <pepee> lol
[16:01] <mcbaine> xGaryG :Note the name of the track: Show Me ! http://open.spotify.com/track/6qYh8yQYlYiATNSuZDpc45
[16:01] <lupine_85> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/892233
[16:01] <OY1R> pepee, i tried, seems like anything network is ignored, nothing happens.
[16:01] <lupine_85> pepee, that's the actual bug
[16:02] <enikm4> whats a good ftp client that handles sftp?
[16:02] <lupine_85> enikm4, filezilla does, and isn't terrible
[16:02] <deej1976> commandline sftp
[16:02] <StepNjump> enikm4 filezilla
[16:02] <mcbaine> XGaryG : Where on the website did you see this on ??
[16:03] <e01> enikm4, mc
[16:03] <XGaryG> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/social-and-email
[16:03] <enikm4> on my server do i need anything extra other then an ftp server and openssh to do sftp transmissions?
[16:03] <entombed> is the broadcom-sta driver better than brcmsmac?
[16:03] <deej1976> enikm4: Just openssh-server
[16:03] <pepee> OY1R dpkg-reconfigure NetworkManager  ?
[16:04] <enikm4> deej1976, StepNjump, lupine_85, cool thanks your the help guys
[16:04] <enikm4> thank you for the help even
[16:06] <mcbaine> XGaryG: I believe you need the  " Lightning extension " V 1.0
[16:06] <XGaryG> I'll look again.  Couldn't find it before.
[16:07] <gwb> HI -- If I'm logged in and then log in Guest on top of my session (click on my name and select Guest), system CPu goes nuts (in Xorg).  Bug or feature?
[16:07] <e01> what is name of indicator that put maximize,restore,minimize buttons in the panel
[16:07] <tewk_> What replaces the gnome-power-management-applet in oneiric
[16:07] <OY1R> pepee, ok i did that
[16:07] <e01> i was see few months ago and for natty
[16:07] <budax71kaseft> hi
[16:07] <deej1976> !xul-ext-lightning | XGaryG:
[16:08] <b0tm1nd> Hi. I am having an Intel integrated video card and when I was using Debain it was always freezeing after some time of hard load usage. Even in the latest Squeeze backports. But once I installed the latest Ubuntu 11.10 the problem went away, it became totally stable!
[16:08] <deej1976> !info xul-ext-lightning | XGaryG:
[16:09] <b0tm1nd> But I am having another problem.. I have an additional video card with chipset Radeon 9250 but with free drivers 3d acceleration seem not to be enabled, but for proprietary drivers I need to downgrade Xorg.
[16:09] <XGaryG> Do I have to enable something extra to see that?
[16:09] <b0tm1nd> So the question: what is the easiest way to downgrade Xorg on Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[16:10] <physically_fit> Am I missing something important if I choose to use Unity 2D forever (instead of Unity 3D)?
[16:10] <b0tm1nd> I have seen some solutions for 9.04 but they all not work for me..
[16:10] <b0tm1nd> Is it possible to download the sources of the needed version and just compile it?
[16:11] <physically_fit> hey
[16:11] <wiskey5alpha> i am looking for help with suspend/hibernate issues
[16:11] <OY1R> pepee, lshw -c network says *-network DISABLED
[16:12] <pepee> OY1R hmm
[16:12] <deej1976> XGaryG: sudo apt-get install xul-ext-lightning
[16:12] <physically_fit> Am I missing something important if I choose to use Unity 2D forever (instead of Unity 3D)?
[16:12] <physically_fit> am I?
[16:13] <mcbaine> XGaryG Note Play at 5:12 of the track: You have a problem ? http://open.spotify.com/track/26TVq3BLbK3gBIw28hYiRA
[16:13] <linds6630> I wasn't able to try a different kernel.. I did pull up a list of the packages that were updated, can someone tell me which would be a likely culprit for killing compositing? http://pastebin.com/JF2hBCvD - i made it easier to read than the log does.
[16:13] <ratcheer> physically_fit: No.
[16:13] <physically_fit> ratcheer, phew. thanks.
[16:13] <bizrt> pepee when i boot i go into console, i run the /etc/init.d/xdm status and said "dead" i run sudo /usr/bin/kdm but nothing happened! i can not boot into login screen
[16:14] <bizrt> pepee do you understand anything?
[16:14] <strix_> whats that in my ubuntu all files got my own execution permissions lifted?
[16:14] <ratcheer> physically_fit: A lot of people like 2D better. Personally, I don't see much difference.
[16:14] <strix_> basically i have right to read and change but not to execute anything
[16:14] <physically_fit> please never stop supporting Unity 2D :( i don't have too much money to upgrade my computers
[16:14] <strix_> and cannot change permissions
[16:15] <pepee> bizrt, hmm strange
[16:15] <physically_fit> ratcheer, i thought my notebook was capable, but just discovered that all the apps start faster in Unity 2D and my flash problem (slow and choppy) is gone
[16:16] <pepee> bizrt, try reinstalling the graphics driver
[16:17] <ratcheer> physically_fit: Sure. 2D should use a lot less resources.
[16:17] <david_zagal> hola
[16:17] <david_zagal> me podriais ayudar a instalar los drivers de la grafica
[16:17] <e01> #ubuntu-es
[16:18] <physically_fit> david_zagal, vaya a #ubuntu-es
[16:19] <mcbaine> 8-) Is there A Fork for Gnome 2 YET ??!?
[16:20] <deej1976> mcbaine: Yes, mint12 uses it
[16:21] <mcbaine> :)Is there A Fork for Gnome 2 YET ??!? Private message Me. Out.   mcbaine
[16:23] <mcbaine> deej1976: Is there a weblink for that info ????
[16:23] <JasseT> hello peeps, is ubuntu dropping flash support as well or what? http://paste.ubuntu.com/742381/
[16:23] <deej1976> mcbaine: should be in pm
[16:25] <deej1976> mcbaine: or google "gnome2 fork mate"
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> i tried mate, looks just like old gnome
[16:26] <strix_> hmm
[16:26] <strix_> can i modify NTFS partitions with ubuntu?
[16:26] <strix_> or execute thingies there
[16:26] <pepee> JasseT, the flash installer is in the ubuntu repos, you don't need that ppa
[16:26] <strix_> i see there are read permissions everywhere
[16:26] <coffeetime> #codehack
[16:28] <linds6630> I wasn't able to try a different kernel.. I did pull up a list ofcan someone tell me which of these packages that updated would be a likely culprit for killing compositing? http://pastebin.com/JF2hBCvD - i made it easier to read than the log does.
[16:28] <Guest4612> hey guys, i have a .patch file
[16:28] <Guest4612> how do I install it
[16:28] <groundnuty> hey I just rought home a monitor that has optimal 2560x1440 res. Strange thing is that 1) it is by default truned off when launchin X - inned to go to nvidia-setting to turn it on. 2) when I do it fonts are completely unredable.
[16:28] <Guest4612> guake apparently had a patch to properly handle multiple screens, which the repo version doesn't include?
[16:31] <stephanmg> hello. "paraview" package has been kept back in apt-get upgrade.
[16:31] <stephanmg> how can i fix it? apt-get safe-upgrade
[16:32] <zykotick9> stephanmg, apt-get doesn't accept "safe-upgrade".  apt-get dist-upgrade, will install everything possible.
[16:32] <pepee> Guest4612, you don't install .patch files
[16:32] <Guest4612> how do I patch then.
[16:32] <pepee> those are used to patch source code
[16:32] <stephanmg> zykotick9: but apt-get dist-upgrade will not install additional stuff. but safe-upgrade will
[16:32] <Sorikan> In 10.04LTS how can I copy folder permissions from one dir to another? the ones in this pastebin that show as root need to be www-data probably to work right...http://pastebin.com/CxvYbvYB   Thanks
[16:32] <zykotick9> stephanmg, dist-upgrade WILL install new packages
[16:33] <zykotick9> stephanmg, safe-upgrade is for aptitutde
[16:33] <stephanmg> The following packages have been kept back:
[16:33] <stephanmg>   paraview
[16:33] <stephanmg> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[16:33] <stephanmg> ah sorrz!
[16:33] <FloodBot1> stephanmg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Guest4612> so do I manually have to go in and place the 'patched' section of code
[16:34] <bytesaber_work> any reason to not add this to 10.04 ?     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:34] <stephanmg> aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver <-- will resolve it zykotick9?
[16:34] <JasseT> pepee: ah, it was a relick from running 64bit flash on lucid, thanks for pointing that out :)
[16:34] <pepee> Guest4612, no, there is this patch command that does it for you
[16:34] <mcbaine> linds6630:  You'd better walk away from this one. Note the name of the track: WALK ! http://open.spotify.com/track/0wcKfCfSBaG0vd6VpdiQyp PMessage Me.
[16:34] <zykotick9> stephanmg, i've never used the full-resolver switch?  i have no idea what that does.
[16:34] <pepee> JasseT, you are welcome
[16:34] <linds6630> mcbaine, why do you keep giving me spotify links? is there an op here?
[16:35] <Guest4612> ok.
[16:35] <Guest4612> i saw the patch command, although its not terribly clear how it works
[16:35] <stephanmg> zykotick9, nevermind, for me it worked and now paraview is also upgraded.
[16:35] <zykotick9> Guest4612, FYI you need to get the source code for the version that patch applies to.
[16:36] <linds6630> Can someone tell me which of these packages that updated would be a likely culprit for killing compositing? http://pastebin.com/JF2hBCvD - i made it easier to read than the log does.
[16:36] <pepee> Guest4612, man patch
[16:37] <pepee> Guest4612, cd source-code-dir; patch -p1 < file.patch
[16:38] <Guest4612> i wish guake would had the option to open in diff monitors
[16:38] <Guest4612> yakuake can :|
[16:39] <madjoe> hi! how can I resolve these issues? http://paste.ubuntu.com/742402/
[16:40] <juboba> how can I restart the network?
[16:40] <juboba> service?
[16:40] <juboba> how can I restart the network service?
[16:40] <madjoe> seems like BADSIG is the problem
[16:40] <pepee> service NetworkManager restart
[16:40] <pepee> OR
[16:40] <juboba> oh
[16:40] <pepee> service network restart
[16:40] <pepee> or whatever
[16:41] <deej1976> madjoe: Delete the ppa and try adding it again
[16:41] <bytesaber_work> apt-get install acroread doesn't appear to work anymore.  what do i do to get the real adobe reader for 10.04 ?
[16:41] <juboba> pepee, those don't exist
[16:41] <rasusto> apt-cache search adoobe to find the package name
[16:41] <juboba> there's networking but it doesn't restart the networking service
[16:42] <pepee> juboba, /ls /etc/init.d
[16:42] <bekks> !details | bytesaber_work
[16:42] <bytesaber_work> bekks, added the medibuntu repository.   still unable to install acroread
[16:42] <zykotick9> bytesaber_work, you need the partner repo enabled
[16:42] <zykotick9> bytesaber_work, acroread isn't in medibuntu anymore
[16:42] <rasusto> did you apt-get update?
[16:43] <bekks> bytesaber_work: "appears", "unable" - what exactly happens?
[16:43] <zykotick9> !partner | bytesaber_work
[16:43] <bytesaber_work> partner?  hmm that didn't come up in the goigle univesre.   ok i'll search for that
[16:43] <bytesaber_work> bekks,   package not found
[16:43] <wiskey5alpha> hello i have a problem with hibernate/suspend
[16:43] <bekks> bytesaber_work: Did you run "apt-get update"?
[16:43] <bekor> hi can antone help me did a distribution upgrade and now i get the message that compositing is not working but it is checked in my settings and is not working any way. know of a command line for compositing
[16:43] <wiskey5alpha> im running ubuntu 11.10
[16:43] <rasusto> partner is the name of the repository not the name of the package
[16:43] <bytesaber_work> bekks, after adding medibuntu yes.   but appearntly the problem is that medibuntu doesn't have it anymore.
[16:43] <bekks> bytesaber_work: Ack.
[16:44] <wiskey5alpha> on a new HP Pavilion dv7
[16:44] <bytesaber_work> bekks, zykotick9, where do I go to keep up on such knowledge?
[16:44] <pepee> wiskey5alpha, same problem here :/
[16:44] <bekks> bytesaber_work: "packages.ubuntu.com" is a good source of information, e.g.
[16:44] <pepee> wiskey5alpha, ati driver?
[16:44] <bytesaber_work> bekks, roger
[16:44] <zykotick9> bytesaber_work, stay in #ubuntu 24 hours a day ;)  no real suggestion sorry
[16:44] <wiskey5alpha> pepee : , no intel
[16:45] <pepee> ah
[16:45] <bekks> bytesaber_work: The same applies for http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[16:45] <madjoe> got it! here's the fix that worked for me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76741/errors-running-apt-get-update-after-upgrading-to-11-10
[16:45] <strix_> is there some notepad++ equivalent for ubuntu?
[16:46] <bekks> strix_: What is notepad++?
[16:46] <zykotick9> bekks, windows text editor
[16:46] <bekks> strix_: Dont expect us to know about non-linux packages :)
[16:46] <strix_> xD
[16:46] <strix_> its some advanced notepad with highliting etc
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> there's leafpad
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> ah
[16:46] <strix_> i need sth configurable
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> gedit
[16:46] <bekks> strix_: vim :)
[16:46] <strix_> cant find any config for gedit ;d
[16:47] <gwb> HI -- If I'm logged in and then log in Guest on top of my session (click on my name and select Guest), system CPu goes nuts (in Xorg).  Bug or feature?
[16:47] <zykotick9> bekks, vim ftw - but i doubt that's what the poster wants ;)
[16:47] <webPragmatist> with find how can i do find . -name "*.zip" -exec touch blanks/ {} \;
[16:47] <bekks> zykotick9: gvim ;)
[16:47] <cire> Hi, I want to install ubuntu on my eee via sd-card. My running system here is a aptosid (~debian) linux. How can I prepare the sd-card for installation?
[16:47] <pepee> strix_, kate
[16:48] <Emphy> Hi
[16:48] <cire> (I read some docs, but mostly they describe installation from ubuntu)
[16:49] <Emphy> I want to remove a BIOS password on my computer, how can help me ? Because I want to install windows/linux but I can't with the password
[16:49] <wiskey5alpha> pepee : hibernate (s2disk) hangs , and suspend (s2ram) works ...
[16:50] <wiskey5alpha> but when resuming from suspend, my wireless card doesnt work
[16:50] <tensorpudding> Emphy, you generally need to reset the BIOS CMOS, which is a physical process that requires access to the internals of the machine
[16:51] <kahen`> I'm following this example: http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html showing how to install vanilla TeX Live 2011, but I can't get the equivs-build step to work. the apt tools still seem to think that texlive isn't installed
[16:51] <tensorpudding> or you just enter the password and go to the BIOS setup
[16:51] <tensorpudding> the former assumes that you're trying to avoid the password because you don't know it
[16:51] <mrdeb> is ubuntu 1110 stable now
[16:51] <pepee> wiskey5alpha, no idea, sorry :/
[16:51] <Emphy>  I've removed the battery, wait 30 minutes, and replaced the battery but the BIOS password is always here
[16:51] <Emphy> tensorpudding, I don't have the BIOS password. :/
[16:52] <dpb_> Emphy: a lot of time you have to reset a jumper
[16:52] <Emphy> How many ?
[16:52] <tensorpudding> oh, laptops are different
[16:52] <dpb_> Emphy: oh, this is a laptop?
[16:52] <tensorpudding> you can presumably remove the CMOS battery and that would reset it
[16:52] <Emphy> Because When I restart the computer, I didn't have date and time but there is always password.
[16:53] <Emphy> Yes this is a laptop
[16:53] <tensorpudding> the regular laptop battery can be removed without affecting the CMOS, because it has a dedicated power source in the form of a large watch-type battery
[16:53] <pepee> CMOS battery, not only the mains batt. also, you don't need to wait 30 min
[16:53] <mcbaine> Saw this recently : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X21HQphy6I PMessage me !!:-*
[16:53] <dpb_> Emphy, probably the best idea is to google for your laptop model and "reset bios password"
[16:54] <dpb_> Emphy: there may even be a youtube video about it.  I know I have followed one of those for my laptop before.
[16:54] <tensorpudding> if that doesn't work your only recourse would be to open it up and look for the CMOS reset jumper
[16:54] <Emphy> Okay I search
[16:54] <bytesaber_work> does mankind need the medibunt repo anymore?
[16:55] <bekor> does anyone know how to fix compositing after a distribution upgrade/
[16:57] <nestleboy> hi luminae
[16:57] <Emphy> And What CMOS reset jumper look like on laptop ?
[16:57] <AfterGlow> Does anyone know how to load additional network drivers into the installer if you are booting the installer from pxe?
[16:58] <tensorpudding> Emphy, surely that would depend on model
[16:58] <bekks> AfterGlow: Create a customized PXE image.
[16:58] <Emphy> Okay
[16:59] <AfterGlow> bekks: I added the required drivers into initrd, I wasn't sure how to load them so I tried calling modprobe from lib/debian-installer-startup.d/ but it does not appear to work, probably I am just doing it wrong :)
[16:59] <mcbaine> How do I set Pidgin so that it DOESN'T show the Log-ins and Log-Outs of people in the Message Display box ???? PMessage Me..:-$
[16:59] <AfterGlow> mcbaine: there is a plugin for that
[16:59] <AfterGlow> mcbaine: join/part hiding
[16:59] <llutz> mcbaine: please drop that "??? PMessage Me..:-$"
[16:59] <cire> okay, it seems i can just put the iso on a card using dd.
[17:00] <bekor> anyone available?
[17:00] <tensorpudding> Emphy, you should probably ask the person who set the password
[17:00] <tobzel> my xfce session seems to be corrupted how to start X without loading the old session
[17:00] <tensorpudding> it's the easiest route, seriously
[17:01] <zykotick9> cire, with 11.10 it's a hybrid image and you can use dd or cat (cat is what debian uses in official instructions) to put the ISO onto USB/SD
[17:02] <pepee> Emphy, dell laptop? IIRC those are impossible to bypass...
[17:02] <kaffien> how can i verify whether or not trim is active ?
[17:02] <cire> zykotick9: yeah, I finally found that information in the docs ;) Works like a charm, thanks.
[17:02] <Elda> Have a quick question:  Recently installed Ubuntu on my parent's PC so that I could provide them with a clean, easy to maintain OS.   I was wanting to add a few bookmarks to their desktop.  However this does not seem readily possible with Unity.  In order to do this would I have to revert to the classic gnome interface?
[17:03] <Elda> Ive been poking about on the forums, but have yet to find anything pertaining to this
[17:03] <tensorpudding> Elda, by default gnome 3 does not manage the desktop
[17:03] <tensorpudding> Elda, it was thought that desktop icons were not necessary
[17:04] <katt> HI all.. does anyone in here happen to use IDJC?
[17:04] <katt> thanks :)
[17:04] <tensorpudding> Elda, you can change this behavior using the gnome-tweak-tool, it's available from the software center
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> yes
[17:04] <dpb_> katt: what is idjc?
[17:04] <Elda> Gotcha, and it is not super necessary but I just want to have the icons there so that they blatantly say Web browser, Word processor etc
[17:05] <Elda> Since they are not very computer literate and they may not have the patience for or know to hold their mouse over the icon initially to see what it is, or even figure it out by sight initially hehe
[17:05] <tensorpudding> Elda, in order to get shortcuts on the desktop, the easiest way is to open the directory /usr/share/applications and copy the files there
[17:07] <guidov> dubuntu
[17:08] <guidov> nm
[17:08] <donavan01> so I have an old EEE PC with a broken screen running the 1.6 Atom in it  I would like to get a USB Wifi adapter and use it as a wireless router/repeater does anyone now of a good distro to run on it I love ubuntu which is what it has installed on it now but its not really geared towards being a router... Ideas?
[17:08] <p3p3_> hello, is there a way to adapt a 11.10 installation for slow hardware? I'm running on 996 Mhz and 512 RAM and everything is running really slow.
[17:08] <tensorpudding> not really
[17:09] <tensorpudding> that's quite a bit lower than minimum recommended specs
[17:09] <nestleboy> p3p3, the best thing to do is to try running the instalation.
[17:09] <pepee> p3p3_, use debian
[17:09] <tensorpudding> you can try using a less resource-intensive configuration, like lubuntu
[17:10] <tensorpudding> lubuntu is more primitive but should run faster on limited hardware
[17:10] <tensorpudding> you can install it over your current by installing the lubuntu-desktop package, i suppose
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> there's also eee-buntu, or ubuntu-eee
[17:10] <tensorpudding> i think eee's are more powerful than that machine
[17:11] <p3p3_> thanks tensorpudding and everyone else i'll give lubuntu a try.
[17:11] <drew> hello everyone
[17:12] <Guest88117> Does anyone know how to use $ wget -m --tries=7 on a https website
[17:13] <astur_> buenas tardes
[17:13] <mcbaine> donavan01 :trisquel !    http://www.h-node.com/notebooks/view/en/311/eeepc-1000HE/3/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> !pt| astur_
[17:13] <ct529> hi everybody! What is the best way to disable IPV6 on ubuntu? I have googled and read and found so many different ways, I do not know which one is the best one.
[17:14] <astur_> buenas tardes
[17:17] <longcat> i told this update manager to never check for updates, yet every day it's bugging me to install updates...  how do i stop this insanity?
[17:17] <longcat> if it comes down to it, i'll just uninstall it but there should be another way
[17:17] <zykotick9> donavan01, if you want it to be a dedicated router (and nothing else) you could check out http://www.smoothwall.org/ it's got a web interface, and is pretty sweet.  I haven't used it in a couple years, and never tried it with wireless.  good luck.
[17:20] <mutant> I can't get click/drag to work (and it can be jumpy) with the Synaptics Clickpad on an HP Envy running 11.10
[17:20] <mutant> anyone able to possibly help?
[17:22] <inashdeen> i am having a problem with cairo dock. the jupiter minimized icon is not showing
[17:22] <trup> hell
[17:23] <donavan01> zykotick9 thanks checking it out now
[17:23] <trup> What command do i need to use to run applications from terminal?
[17:23] <surfdue> I made a file 1777 and the owner root. Why can another user still delete this file?
[17:25] <rumpe1> trup, depends on the application. Usually just the applications name.
[17:25] <trup> Hmm, il try
[17:25] <trup> Okay worked
[17:25] <surfdue> trup: I normally go to the dir and then type ./appname
[17:26] <surfdue> trup: or for example /var/bin/appname you can find the name of system wide apps by doing a which appname
[17:27] <surfdue> rumpe1: any idea about my question.. im stumped :/
[17:27] <rumpe1> surfdue, because of the 7=4(read)+2(write!)+1(execute)
[17:28] <trup> im newbie to linux, especially ubuntu distribution. Is there any important things that i should do? I noticed that there is only firewall no other av apps
[17:28] <surfdue> rumpe1: I assume write comes with delete priviledges.
[17:28] <surfdue> rumpe1: no way to give write, but not allow delete unless its the owner
[17:28] <rumpe1> surfdue, exactly
[17:28] <Elda> Try running unity 2d as opposed to 3d?  Kind of getting used to the new version myself
[17:28] <surfdue> rumpe1: i thought stickybit handled that part :(
[17:29] <Elda> oh sorry it was scrolled up, and I saw an older comment
[17:29] <Elda> sorry xD
[17:29] <rumpe1> surfdue, sure, e.g. 774 = user(all perm.), group(all), others(4=just read)
[17:29] <surfdue> rumpe1: see I need to give users the ability to edit the file, but just not delete it
[17:29] <rumpe1> surfdue, stickybit is only for execution
[17:30] <pikaciu> 1 exec 2 read 4 write
[17:31] <surfdue> rumpe1: do I have any options?
[17:31] <dmorrison42> I'm in the process of cleaning up my files. I have a mangled directory of files and an organized directory of files. Most of the files have been organized but I want to check to see if any of my files from the mangled directory are missing from the organized directory (the opposite of fdupes) how can I do that?
[17:31] <bekor> compiz issues any one good at it?
[17:31] <wapmorgan> how binding hot keys in gnome 3?
[17:31] <rumpe1> surfdue, that's not possible
[17:31] <Ampelbein> surfdue: you could set -w on the containing directory
[17:31] <inashdeen> bump
[17:32] <surfdue> Ampelbein: what will that do?
[17:32] <surfdue> Ampelbein: the directory is shared, there is other files that are being created and deleted
[17:32] <Ampelbein> surfdue: ok, then that option is out
[17:33] <surfdue> this is actually a link, and whats happening is an app is going in, loading the linked file, and rewriting it, causing the symbolic link to get overridden
[17:33] <gemunu> I'm running ubuntu 10.04.3 on a dell-xps-m1330. How can I install nvidia driver?
[17:34] <skeenan> surfdue: use chattr +a to set append attribute, file cannot be deleted, use lsattr to see whats set on it
[17:34] <inashdeen> hi, i am having a problem with icon which minimized to systray on cairo-dock. it is not showing on cairo-dock
[17:34] <TheProf> Good day. Question:  I reinstalled Ubuntu 11.04 and imported my users, passwords, /home, no problem.  But I found I have 2 entries for the first user created in /etc/passwd.  Can I delete one of them safely?
[17:35] <surfdue> skeenan let me check
[17:35] <zykotick9> gemunu, system / admin / hardware drivers (or similar) -- does it list nvidia, and/or show a (recommended) one?
[17:35] <codazoda> Ubuntu 11.10, Natalis 3.2.1, when I highlight a file or folder and then start to type, it shows a little box with that text.  If I click another file or folder that text used to dissapear and I could start typing again.  That box no longer goes away (instead it goes away after a few seconds).  Is this broken or am I just using it wrong?
[17:36] <TheProf> one entry is: fname:x:1000:1000:First Last,,,:/home/fname:/bin/bash, other is: fname:x:1000:1000:First Last:/home/fname:/bin/bash
 nope
[17:36] <codazoda> *Nautilus
[17:36] <pikaciu> gemunu: Additional drivers
[17:36] <zykotick9> gemunu, "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal
[17:37] <gemunu> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[17:37] <zykotick9> gemunu, intel -- not nvidia
[17:37] <zykotick9> gemunu, OH is this one of those dual gpu things?
[17:38] <mkjackson> hey folks, been thinking of updating my father's old laptop which has been running ubuntu 8.10 (or so)... does 11.10 perform just as well, or hopefully better, on old hardware?
[17:38] <codazoda> Open Nautilus.  Click a file, type 'm'. Click another file, type 'a'.  The search string is now 'ma' and backspace takes you to a previous folder instead of backing up over what you just typed.
[17:38] <gemunu> but there is a nvidia sticker on the front
[17:38] <zykotick9> gemunu, i haven't used one of those (and kinda doubt lucid would be ideal at support for them)
[17:38] <orated> Hello! While configuring NAS, the input path given for file in /etc/exports like - '/ 192.168.2.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)' - The / or /home or /var or whatever need to be individual partitions? I got /home in different partition and when I shared / only and tried to access from client, it didn't work giving home folder empty but later when I added same line for /home it worked.
[17:38] <zykotick9> gemunu, good luck.  sorry lucid might let you down (it was my fav ubuntu release ;)
[17:39] <gemunu> ok. Thanks
[17:39] <nestleboy> exit
[17:39] <Ampelbein> codazoda: That's a known issue, see bug 879456
[17:39] <zykotick9> gemunu, but there are some specific software for switching the gpu settings - see if you can get them for lucid (not sure what it's called)
[17:40] <inashdeen> hi, my lightdm turns pretty horriblr when i press the shut down button. i think it is uisng highcontrast or something. the thing is, only the shutdown panel in lightdm is affected. all the other themes are normal. how can fix this?
[17:40] <zykotick9> gemunu, switcheroo or something like that?
[17:40] <gemunu>  thanks for the tip
[17:41] <zykotick9> does anyone know what the software for switching nvidia/intel is called?
[17:42] <llutz> zykotick9: Bumblebee?
[17:42] <zykotick9> gemunu, see above for one option, there might be another as well.  thanks llutz
[17:43] <codazoda> Ampelbein: Okay, thanks.
[17:45] <hasufell> i got a generel question about ubuntu
[17:45] <hasufell> why does ubuntu suck?
[17:45] <Elda> trololol?
[17:45]  * lupine_85 deploys meta
[17:45] <zykotick9> gemunu, this post looks promising for lucid support http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1569380&page=6 i also noticed some PPAs with bumblebee (and that post suggests it'll work with bumblebee) so looks promising.  good luck.
[17:46] <Elda> Better yet; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UGD0fV45g
[17:46] <inashdeen_> hi, i am using cairo dock on unity with the unity plugin disabled. the problem is, my minimized application to icon tray is not seen in cairo dock. ho wdo i fix these. OS: ubuntu 11.10
[17:47] <gemunu> Thanks very much .... cheers
[17:47] <gemunu> zykotick9, Thanks very much .... cheers
[17:47] <draioch> im trying to reinstall lubuntu following boot prob, used a live xubuntu DVD to get access to me home folders but cant cut and paste to backup drive before new OS install, do i need to change file permissions of something thx
[17:49] <zykotick9> gemunu, thank llutz ;) he knew the key fact
[17:49] <hasufell> i think ubuntu is an unstable version of debian experimental
[17:49] <llutz> Do you have any ubuntu support related question? hasufell
[17:49] <Arcademan> draioch, did you already mount the drive your backing up to
[17:50] <ct529> hi everybody! What is the best way to disable IPV6 on ubuntu? I have googled and read and found so many different ways, I do not know which one is the best one.
[17:50] <zykotick9> hasufell, ubuntu starts from debian "sid" the unstable branch (might might include packages from experimental repo as well)
[17:50] <draioch> thx arcademan dont think so how do u do that
[17:50] <me-1> hi...my PC can not run unity and gnome 3 what can be the issue
[17:50] <hasufell> llutz: yes, i want a stable ubuntu, but im unable to find one
[17:50] <Arcademan> hmm you could do it like so:
[17:50] <nootilus> hello everybody
[17:50] <draioch> acrademan the mount option is greyed out
[17:51] <me-1> nootilus, hi
[17:51] <Arcademan> ... mount /dev/sda/ /media
[17:51] <draioch> thx
[17:51] <Arcademan> or whatever the device is sda or sdb
[17:51] <nootilus> sorry to bother, but I would like to know if someone can help me or show me a good tuto/guide for newbie about making a script sending a mail
[17:52] <nootilus> I have set up a torrentbox which I manage with ssh. It uses rtorrent and I've read rTorrent can send a mail when a download is complete but I have no idea how to do that
[17:52] <Arcademan> draioch, just do umount to unmout it :)
[17:52] <Arcademan> same way :)
[17:52] <draioch> thx acrademan
[17:53] <me-1> hi...my PC can not run unity and gnome 3 what can be the issue
[17:53] <llutz> nootilus: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentCommonTasks
[17:53] <Arcademan> me-1 video card issue :)
[17:54] <nootilus> llutz, yes I found that page, but it simply says "Assuming you have a working mail system" and I have no idea how to have a working mail system
[17:54] <llutz> nootilus: install a simple nullmailer or ssmtp/msmtp + bsd-mailx, setup the host you want to send the mail to and you should be fine.
[17:55] <draioch> arcademan: the external drive can be accessed (able to delete files) so must be a prob with the files in the home folder of the previous install
[17:55] <nootilus> llutz, ok I'll go find some infos about a "nullmailer"
[17:55] <me-1> Arcademan,  you seem right but how can i make sure i get the video card that is capable
[17:55] <nootilus> thanks
[17:55] <llutz> nootilus: lhttp://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/17/howto-configure-msmtp-to-work-with-gmail-on-linux/
[17:55] <nootilus> I'll stay around if I'm stuck ;)
[17:56] <Arcademan> might be draioch :)
[17:56] <alsoeric_> I;d like to set up dual monitors but all the instructions I've found don't work.  suggestions?
[17:56] <Arcademan> you should be able to do copy <whereever your home folder is> to /media
[17:57] <draioch> thx arcademan do i need to change the permissions to access those files (files are from previous install that i had boot problem so using livedvd to access them but wont let me copy them over)
[17:57] <nootilus> llutz, thanks again, the link you sent me seems very clear. I'll try that
[17:58] <elias_> good evening (18:57 UTC-1)
[17:58] <Arcademan> you should sill be able to copy them draioch :)
[17:58] <Arcademan> using the live CD
[17:58] <elias_> I'm italian and I'm 11
[17:58] <elias_> hi, ErisMonk
[17:58] <alsoeric_> help with dual monitors please??
[17:58] <w_a> Is it posible to make a mail server (so collect mail from like hotmail, gmail, etc) so i can connect difrent pc to it (include outlook clients) and all the pc loging in with same mail account will see the same mails. Like if one pc crash the mail are stil on the server.
[17:59] <elias_> hi, tachik0ma
[17:59] <Arcademan> me-1 most ATI and Nvidia cards are compatible :)
[17:59] <draioch> thx or will i be able to reinstall lubuntu with an option of not overwriting/reformatting disk
[17:59] <elias_> hi Axlin
[17:59] <Promille> ask | alsoeric_
[18:00] <Arcademan> draioch, you should be able to select custom disk when installing and change it accordigly just be careful
[18:00] <draioch> thx arcademan
[18:01] <Arcademan> just be warned if you select the wrong option the data goes by by :)
[18:01] <nootilus> llutz, are you still here?
[18:02] <llutz> nootilus: yes
[18:02] <elias_> 1651 connected user, wow!
[18:02] <elias_> hi, tolmun
[18:02] <elias_> hi, kstange
[18:02] <nootilus> llutz, do you know if I can use the tuto you gave me with another mail account than gmail? It seems I can't pass the gmail "2 steps security" system
[18:02] <kstange> is there a channel regarding mirroring for ubuntu or should I ask here?
[18:03] <kstange> I'm having trouble finding good documentation on the subject
[18:03] <llutz> nootilus: it should work with every other mail-account too
[18:03] <KrisDouglas> kstange, mirroring in terms of?
[18:03] <kstange> mirroring the ubuntu distribution
[18:03] <nootilus> llutz, ok, I'll try with one of my imap account
[18:03] <kstange> I have done it, I submitted my mirroring request, and it's still pending review after 2 weeks
[18:03] <nootilus> llutz, thanks again for your patience ;)
[18:04] <kstange> I realize the mirror admins may be busy, but I couldn't find any documentation to indicate the normal review process or timeline
[18:05] <llutz> nootilus: other example setups http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/doc/msmtprc.txt
[18:06] <kstange> oh, I just found a page I didn't see before which says #ubuntu-mirrors is where I belong, sorry for the noise
[18:06] <nootilus> llutz, thanks
[18:06] <nootilus> llutz, don you have any clue? -> "msmtp: the server does not support TLS via the STARTTLS command"
[18:07] <nootilus> I wonder if I shouldn't set a gmail account without the 2-steps protection just for my torrentbox... :)
[18:07] <llutz> nootilus: try again with "tls off" "tls_starttls off"
[18:07] <nootilus> llutz, ok
[18:08] <nootilus> llutz, hmmm... "msmtp: cannot use a secure authentication method"
[18:09] <llutz> nootilus: "auth off"
[18:09] <llutz> nootilus: next step would be to look for more advanced mail-provider
[18:09] <nootilus> llutz, ah
[18:10] <searchfgold6789> How do I convert several .png's to jpeg? I have imagemagick but don't know what to do
[18:11] <llutz> searchfgold6789: for pic in *.png; do convert $pic ${pic/png/jpg};done
[18:12] <christian__1> hey
[18:12] <searchfgold6789> ok luts, thanks! will try
[18:13] <christian__1> please could someone help me: i have a apache php server running on my local machine, i am creating a directory with php, but it can't: permission denied, how can i set the permissions ?? i know the user is www-data
[18:13] <christian__1> i could add the user in the root group. but i dont think thtas a good idea
[18:14] <llutz> christian__1: make the parent dir group writable and chgrp www-data
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> christian__1  ls -la shows the permissions, use chown to change them
[18:14] <christian__1> is it enough when i change the permissions of the dierctory where he wants to create his ?
[18:14] <christian__1> thank you !!!!!
[18:14] <christian__1> i will try it :D
[18:17] <gmcinnes2> Hi all:  The latest nagios-nrpe-server seems to have an init script that is not writing a pid to /var/run/nagios.  It uses the lsb/init-functions start_daemon function to start the daemon, but it's not giving me any debug info about not being able to create the pid.  Any ideas how to debug?
[18:17] <nootilus> gah, I just created a new gmail "unprotected" account but still can't send mail :(
[18:18] <elias_> hi, apetro
[18:19] <elias_> apetro: where are you from?
[18:19] <elias_> hi, Klojum. Where are you from?
[18:19] <christian__1> i changed owner + group to www-data
[18:19] <christian__1> but it still cant create the directory
[18:19] <llutz> christian__1: make  dir group writable
[18:20] <llutz> christian__1: sudo chmod g+w dir
[18:20] <christian__1> it is writeable
[18:20] <christian__1> drwxr-xr-x  4 www-data www-data 4096 2011-11-18 15:38 analysis_data
[18:20] <christian__1> drwxr-xr-x  2 www-data www-data 4096 2011-10-20 19:23 anubis_c
[18:20] <christian__1> these are the both directories
[18:20] <llutz> both not group-writable
[18:20] <christian__1> they are inside:
[18:20] <christian__1> /mnt/
[18:20] <pikaciu> christian_1: maybe 770
[18:20] <christian__1> ahh sry
[18:21] <christian__1> my stupid
[18:21] <pikaciu> christian_1: maybe 771
[18:21] <christian__1> :(
[18:21] <FloodBot1> christian__1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <llutz> 775
[18:21] <christian__1> i totally thoght x is writebale... ^^ sry
[18:21] <christian__1> i know its executable
[18:21] <edbian> I can't write my vfat usb drive in Debian (on xfce) it's mounted read/write (mount says so anyway) everything is owned by user root (UID 0) I can't chmod or chown anything and I can't touch files in there without using sudo.  Suggestions?
[18:22] <iceroot> edbian: #debian
[18:22] <llutz> edbian: use mount options like uid/gid/umask, chown/chmod don't work
[18:22] <edbian> oops
[18:22] <edbian> I'm going to Debian
[18:23] <edbian> llutz, Why do I need to set uid gid ?
[18:23] <christian__1> still doenst work... the 2 mentioned directories, are inside /mnt/ does the /mnt/ directory also need to be owned (or grouped) by www-data ? and set to be writeable ??
[18:23] <edbian> How do they work?
[18:23] <llutz> edbian: man mount
[18:25] <geoffmcc> christian_1: is this in /var/www or have you created a vhost?
[18:26] <koichirose> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome classic. Nautilus' "File Operations" dialog is not an actual window and will disappear under other windows if I don't set it 'always on top'. Anybody knows where to look for this?
[18:26] <Iraqi> RE: Is there driver for " lbt canon 6000 " in Ubuntu? if there from where I can get it?
[18:27] <glebihan> christian__1, no the /mnt directory doesn't need to be owned by www-data. Where are you trying to create a new folder exactly ?
[18:27] <christian__1> i know changed every direcotry inside the direcotry tree to writeable by g and o (the unsafest way)
[18:27] <christian__1> now it works
[18:27] <christian__1> /mnt/analysis_data/uploaded/5/c/c/5ccf290f9612e53a853ad6bd59b02e55.gz
[18:27] <christian__1> /mnt/analysis_data/uploaded/    exists
[18:27] <christian__1> everything else is created by the php server
[18:27] <christian__1> its working now with all rights for group and other...
[18:28] <christian__1> i know its a bad idea to do this ...
[18:28] <christian__1> i think it should work if i set the gruop to www-data and set group +w
[18:28] <iceroot> christian__1: using 777 is bad, in compination with php its really bad
[18:28] <christian__1> for the dir analysis_data and everything under ?
[18:28] <christian__1> i know iceroot
[18:29] <christian__1> i am a real noob with permissions and linux
[18:29] <christian__1> :D
[18:30] <elias_> hi alexandrev. Where are you from?
[18:31] <Myrtti> elias_: this isn't really a social channel. this is for Ubuntu support.
[18:31] <geoffmcc> !offtopic | elias_
[18:31] <oCean> elias_: this channel is for tech support only. You're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic for cha
[18:31] <oCean> *chat
[18:31] <vezeena> hey
[18:31] <geoffmcc> lol
[18:32] <pikaciu> i'm offtopic too !
[18:32] <vezeena> how can i setup dual monitor on oneiric? the 2nd monitor doesnt show on nvidia-settings. monitor 1 is plugged into the mah nvidia card. monitor 2 is plugged into the motherboard
[18:33] <vezeena> couldnt find a guide... theyre all for gnome desktop not unity
[18:34] <buntu> on #gentoo
[18:36] <Folklore> just installed new ubuntu with this dumb bar thing on the side
[18:36] <Folklore> how can I get to a cmd shell
[18:36] <Iraqi> Is there driver for printer " lbt canon 6000 "  ? and How I can get it?
[18:36] <Folklore> and how do I turn this garbage off
[18:36] <Folklore> and show old menus
[18:36] <tensorpudding> Folklore, do you want a console or a terminal emulator?
[18:36] <tensorpudding> Folklore, the former works as it has in the past, ctrl+alt+f1
[18:37] <plummerb> Is using Update-Manager the same as apt-get update, apt-get upgrade  ??
[18:37] <tensorpudding> Folklore, for the latter, hover the mouse over the left edge, click the thing with the ubuntu logo at the top, it opens the dash, where you can launch programs
[18:37] <Folklore> tensor thats not what I wanted
[18:37] <Myrtti> Folklore: terminal emulator can be launched with ctrl-alt-t as well
[18:37] <tensorpudding> Folklore, then look for the one labelled Terminal
[18:37] <ssta> plummerb: almost.  I think it uses a very slightly different set of proprities for dependencies...or maybe that's changed now
[18:37] <Folklore> I meant in ubuntu, a simple shell
[18:38] <Folklore> not turn the whole into into a concole
[18:38] <tensorpudding> Folklore, i asked whether you wanted a console or a terminal emulator, it sounds like you want the latter, so do what i said to launch Terminal
[18:38] <pikaciu> Folklore: altt + f2 and digit xterm
[18:38] <Folklore> anyway I can just have the old menu show, like other ubuntu versions
[18:38] <plummerb> Folklore  ctrl+alt+F7  will take you back to X
[18:39] <tensorpudding> Folklore, the old interface is gone
[18:39] <tensorpudding> Folklore, as of 11.10
[18:39] <Folklore> what?
[18:39] <Myrtti> !notunity | Folklore
[18:39] <ssta> Folklore: yes.  once you get a terminal, install gnome-shell, log out, then log back in using "classic" as the desktop
[18:39] <tensorpudding> Folklore, it was part of gnome 2, the old version of gnome, and ubuntu has migrated to gnome 3
[18:39] <Folklore> no wonder ubuntu popularity has plummeted
[18:39] <plummerb> Hmmmmm...  Troll?
[18:39] <tensorpudding> Folklore, if you install gnome-shell, you can get gnome-fallback, which looks vaguely like the old one
[18:40] <Folklore> plummberb you referring to me? because I tell you what friend
[18:40] <Folklore> this new interface, FORCED upon all users, is what I call trolled
[18:40] <Folklore> not me
[18:40] <ssta> Folklore: http://scarygliders.net/2011/11/15/get-rid-of-unity-on-fresh-ubuntu-installation-and-customize-to-your-liking/
[18:40] <Myrtti> Folklore: please, let's be civil
[18:40] <llutz> !nounity
[18:40] <tensorpudding> Folklore, the change to the UI are not entirely popular
[18:40] <smw> Folklore, agreed, but it is also gnome's fault
[18:40] <tensorpudding> Folklore, just follow the instructions
[18:41] <plummerb> ssta  Ok.  I have CrunchBank which doesn't have update-manager...
[18:41] <smw> Folklore, actually, alot of it is gnome's fault.
[18:41] <plummerb> Folklore, then use Lumbuntu or Xubuntu...
[18:41] <altf2o> I would argue /forced/ is removing the ability to use any other UI, which they have not, it's simply another step. If you don't like it install GNOME3 and be done with it.
[18:41] <smw> Folklore, I think ubuntu should have spent less time working on unity and more time rebuilding gnome2 on top of gnome 3
[18:42] <LjL> !ot
[18:42] <smw> sorry LjL
[18:42] <tensorpudding> they could have created a shell which looked like the one in gnome 2
[18:42] <tensorpudding> but that would have begun to look dated as everyone else moved to gnome-shell
[18:42] <Myrtti> can we please move the discussion about desktop environment politics to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:42] <Guest88117> hello
[18:43] <Guest88117> does any one know how to use $ wget -m --tries=7 on a https website?
[18:43] <plummerb> Ok...  So if I want to install update-manager is that what I install or is it called something else?  update-manager-core?
[18:44] <danpalmer> hi there, im having some problems with sudo
[18:44] <Folklore> might look at mint, heard that was good
[18:44] <Folklore> thanks guys
[18:44] <plummerb> I have CrunchbanG...  not Crunchbank...  lol
[18:44] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: man wget shows how to pass along the username/password if that helps
[18:44] <oCean> plummerb: you said you are running Crunchbang? That's not supported here
[18:44] <danpalmer> twice now, all the users have been removed from the sudoers file and I have to go back into recovery mode to set it up again
[18:45] <plummerb> oCean  Well crap.
[18:45] <oCean> plummerb: well, there's #crunchbang channel
[18:45] <plummerb> Sweet.
[18:45] <ghabit> Hello. Looking for DLNA server for Ubuntu. Help! ^)
[18:45] <Iraqi> LjL: :-| bo0o0
[18:46] <inashdeen> hi everyone, how do i disable indication-application-service at startup? second, if disable it, will it only affect unity or will tiaffect gnome shell DE too?
[18:46] <Myrtti> Folklore: good luck. Mint is moving to Gnome3 too.
[18:46] <oCean> ghabit: have you seen/tried http://www.tvmobili.com/ ?
[18:47] <Guest88117> It isnt working, I am tring every thing but no luck
[18:47] <danpalmer> anyone got any ideas about my problem? making my server totally unusable.
[18:48] <ghabit> oCean, nope, thanks!
[18:50] <geoffmcc> danpalmer: im just trying to look into it, you fix file and on your next sudo it broke again, nothing inbetween?
[18:51] <danpalmer> geoffmcc: no, i fixed it a few hours ago in the recovery mode, added the users back to it, and now when I tried (and one of the other users tried too) we aren't in it. server has been rebooted once in between, but it worked for a few hours
[18:51] <Guest88117> maybe I am doing it wrong, When I type man wget it gives me a screen. telling me what it can do, but what should I type in the manual page
[18:52] <danpalmer> geoffmcc: main stuff on the server: apache, svn, mysql, virtualbox, thats about it at the moment apart from the standard packages.
[18:52] <geoffmcc> danpalmer: what version of ubuntu
[18:52] <danpalmer> 11.10 server
[18:53] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: if you skim threw it you should see the arguments for username/password. I would give u directly but i dont remember them, but i know they are in man
[18:53] <ybit3> any work on integrating nepomuk into ubuntu?
[18:53] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: ps you are probably going to find to that most sites block this with a user agent string
[18:54] <Folklore> is there faster way to run a terminal
[18:54] <boxybrown> hey guys
[18:55] <ybit3> hi boxybrown
[18:55] <boxybrown> my hostname -f isnt returning the fqdn as set in resolver.conf
[18:55] <boxybrown> any tips?
[18:55] <boxybrown> is there a way to get hostname to reload from this file?
[18:55] <iceroot> Folklore: yakuake or tilda
[18:55] <geoffmcc> danpalmer: when you try to sudo does it say "cant open /etc/sudoers; permission denied" or say something else or nothing at all
[18:55] <llutz> Folklore: faster than ctrl-alt-t, guake
[18:55] <Guest4612> i opend up libre calc just now, and boom, lightdm @ 99%
[18:56] <danpalmer> geoffmcc: "cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"
[18:56] <iceroot> danpalmer: sudo
[18:56] <llutz> danpalmer: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[18:57] <Folklore> thanks llutz, I may keep ubuntu only cause I wanna test some simple server code im writing, no way i'd be able to handle this as a main os
[18:57] <danpalmer> iceroot, geoffmcc: when sudo'ing "dan is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[18:57] <Folklore> got it in vbox
[18:57] <danpalmer> llutz: "-r--r----- 1 root root 574 2011-04-15 17:02 /etc/sudoers"
[18:57] <iceroot> danpalmer: then use the first user created with ubuntu
[18:57] <iceroot> danpalmer: your primary user
[18:57] <danpalmer> i am
[18:57] <iceroot> danpalmer: then you broke your system
[18:57] <danpalmer> iceroot: i was able to sudo a few hours ago
[18:58] <danpalmer> and nothing has been happening since that we have done
[18:58] <ccmonster> any clue what would cause libre office to use 99% of my cpu? or to make LightDM use it, that is
[18:58] <iceroot> danpalmer: never ever edit /etc/sudoers directly
[18:58] <danpalmer> iceroot: i wouldnt. i was using usermod
[18:58] <iceroot> danpalmer: what is the output of "id"
[18:58] <danpalmer> iceroot: i added the users I needed to by doing "usermod -G sudo <user>"
[18:58] <danpalmer> iceroot: "uid=1000(dan) gid=1000(dan) groups=1000(dan),1007(svn)"
[18:59] <llutz> danpalmer: "2011-04-15 " on 11.10? do you have some auto-restore features active which reset all changes in your system after a while?
[18:59] <iceroot> danpalmer: admin-group is missing
[18:59] <llutz> danpalmer: usermod -aG
[18:59] <danpalmer> iceroot: i know that. it was there before
[18:59] <iceroot> danpalmer: boot a live-system or use recovery-mode and change that
[18:59] <llutz> danpalmer: you removed all other groups when not using -a
[18:59] <Lostmonk> whats good for converting video to ipod format on ubuntu?
[19:00] <danpalmer> llutz: i thought that "G" added as opposed to "g" that replaced, not sure where I read that, might be wrong
[19:00] <iceroot> danpalmer: did you enable the root-account?
[19:00] <llutz> danpalmer: man usermod
[19:00] <genii-around> danpalmer: When you use: usermod -G newgroup username   .... if you do not use the -a switch, "newgroup" becomes the ONLY group that user belongs to
[19:00] <iceroot> danpalmer: by setting a password?
[19:00] <Guest88117> geoffmcc:  Is there an other way to make a copy?
[19:00] <paulus> I want remaster the ubuntu without remastersy, you know other tool?
[19:00] <danpalmer> llutz: also, this doesnt explain why I was REMOVED from the sudo group
[19:00] <iceroot> !remaster | paulus
[19:00] <atruno>  does anyone know of a cheap ntsc video capture device that works on ubuntu, and can do ntsc 720x480 ?
[19:00] <llutz> danpalmer: sudoers file date is: "2011-04-15 " on 11.10? do you have some auto-restore features active which reset all changes in your system after a while?
[19:01] <iceroot> atruno: ntsc does not have 720*480
[19:01] <danpalmer> llutz: i dont know about those features
[19:01] <atruno> oh
[19:01] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: sorry not off top of my head, but im sure there are packages out there
[19:01] <danpalmer> llutz: if they are enabled by default then i guess I have them running. no idea about that stuff though, i didnt know it existed
[19:01] <wbBlueDave> Hi everyone! Guys, can someone help me with a bluetooth problem ? thanks in advance
[19:01] <atruno> iceroot, what does ?
[19:02] <llutz> danpalmer: there is nothing like that by default, the file-date seem just too old to me to be "normal"
[19:02]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[19:02] <maslen> How can I safely exit and resume X? ( My goal is to install the newest nvidia driver)
[19:02] <office3> how do I set up RAID while installing 11.04
[19:03] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: its pretty simple, but if you use firefox maybe just file save page as, may be more work if a few pages, but off top head best i can give ya
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> maslen: the 285 driver is on the xorg edgers
[19:03] <geoffmcc> maslen: have you considered installing it from ppa?
[19:03] <blargg> Any way to reduce HDD thrashing when copying to a FAT partition? I'd like the file copy to basically read say 50MB of data, then write it all in one go, etc.
[19:03] <maslen> geoffmcc: I was not aware that was possible.
[19:04] <maslen> ActionParsnip: What is the 'xorg edgers' ?
[19:04] <Folklore> wow ubuntu doesn't even have latest firefox?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> maslen: use the less fresh more stable link in the description
[19:04] <Folklore> says 7.0 is latest, when 8 is already out...
[19:04] <Guest30386> HI I am a new user and accidently installed Ub 11.10 as default OS, on windows XP....how can I get dual boot option...please advise thanks in advance
[19:04] <geoffmcc> maslen: see my post (#3) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11466226#post11466226
[19:04] <iceroot> office3: use the alternate-disc which can use sw-raid at setup
[19:04] <llutz> Folklore: you want a rolling-release distro
[19:05] <iceroot> Folklore: there a never major-updtae inside a release
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> maslen: its a ppa, you'll find it with near zero effort
[19:05] <office3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[19:05] <iceroot> Folklore: in the official repos
[19:05] <office3> is this ok?
[19:05] <danpalmer> ok, i think I know how to fix the system now. im leaving to do that.
[19:05] <office3> iceroot:
[19:05] <Sarek> hi
[19:05] <Folklore> iceroot it doesn't use Mozilla's releases?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> maslen: in ubuntu its very rare to actually download something to then install it
[19:06] <iceroot> Folklore: as i said, inside the ubuntu repos there are only sec udates, never feature-updates for one ubuntu version
[19:06] <naitsabes> j/list
[19:06] <iceroot> Folklore: almost never, only a very few apps get major-updates
[19:07] <Sarek> I am looking for a kernel image of 3.0.0 that does _not_ have KVM compiled in. I read that from 2.6.anything on all version have KVM compiled in
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> maslen: after you add the ppa, install nvidia-current and 285 is yours
[19:07] <Folklore> iceroot and why is this, canonical is intentionally making users less secure because they want to throw their logo on firefox distributions instead of using the normal ones?
[19:08] <iceroot> Folklore: you dont want big changes in your software when you only want a sec-update
[19:08] <Folklore> I want the choice, that's what I want
[19:08] <iceroot> Folklore: you have the choice
[19:09] <Folklore> not canonical dictating that for me, so much for "freedom"
[19:09] <Folklore> apparently not
[19:09] <maslen> geoffmcc, ActionParsnip: Installing it now from the 'update manager'. Thanks!
[19:09] <iceroot> Folklore: do what you want with your system, add a repo you want, add a ppa you want
[19:09] <iceroot> Folklore: but we dont want big changes when there are security-updates
[19:09] <Folklore> why
[19:09] <blargg> iceroot, no, it's true, Canonical came to my door with a gun and forced me to use Ubuntu. They give me no choice!
[19:09] <iceroot> Folklore: things should not break after an update
[19:10] <blargg> I am appreciative of stable releases. I still use 10.04.
[19:10] <Folklore> why would a browser update break anything?
[19:10] <geoffmcc> ActionParsnip: just wondering the difference between your way and mine, i suggested add ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates as thats what i did
[19:10] <Folklore> it doesn't break anything on windows
[19:10] <bashed> Can I use the time command to print just the time for the process without showing the actual output?
[19:10] <oCean> Folklore: if you just came to rant, please find some place else to do so.
[19:10] <iceroot> Folklore: what about "gnome2 is used by 11.04" now gnome2 is no longer supported, sould 11.04 just update gnome2 to gnome3? is that what you want?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> maslen: easier than windows, plus when the ppa is updated you will too
[19:10] <Guest88117> geoffmcc: That copies some of the page but will not put every thing together like page.html and so on
[19:10] <iceroot> Folklore: all your addons from 7.0 are working with 8.0?
[19:11] <iceroot> Folklore: you tested ALL addons?
[19:11] <Folklore> a GUI manager update is differnt from a browser update
[19:11] <geoffmcc> Guest88117: sorry, wish i could have been of more help
[19:11] <richpk21> h
[19:11] <Folklore> iceroot that's a non-argument because you know what, in windows I can hit the about button in firefox and update without any issues
[19:11] <Folklore> I have that choice, that freedom
[19:11] <Adriannom> got disconnected.  no idea if anyone replied so i'll post this again:
[19:11] <Folklore> ubuntu won't let me do that
[19:11] <Adriannom>  hi.  just built a new machine and i transferred my ssd from my old machine to the new.  however, when i boot i get the error "gave up waiting for root device".  if i wait a while and type exit the error repeats.  if i load grub and try recovery mode i get a blank screen forever.  i also tried deleting the UUID from grub and the error persists.  i've booted a livecd and i can't actually see any disks under the sata host
[19:11] <Adriannom>  adapter.  i can see the disk in the bios though.  any ideas what i could try next?
[19:11] <iceroot> Folklore: you can do it in ubuntu too
[19:11] <FloodBot1> Adriannom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <blargg> Folklore, the user doesn't care why the breakage occurs; stability involves the OS and apps.
[19:11] <iceroot> Folklore: just install the version from mozilla
[19:11] <iceroot> Folklore: as you do on windows
[19:12] <Guest88117> geoffmmc its ok You have help more then google lol
[19:12] <Folklore> that version already should be installed
[19:12] <Folklore> but thanks
[19:12] <iceroot> Folklore: then you can hit the update4 button
[19:12] <Guest88117> So thank you
[19:12] <oCean> Folklore: of course you have the freedom to choose whatever you want. Newer versions are available through PPA archives.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: use the stable or nightly ppa. Not hard
[19:12] <iceroot> Folklore: or backports
[19:13] <bullgard4> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources: "Xresources and Xdefaults are user-level configuration dotfiles, typically located at ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xdefaults. They can be used to set X resources, which are configuration parameters for X client applications. ... Note: Using ~/.Xdefaults is deprecated"  <-- Does this apply to Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 as well, particularly "Using...
[19:13] <bullgard4> ...~/.Xdefaults is deprecated"?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: lots more choice than windows
[19:14] <iaj> lo there
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Hi laj
[19:14] <tensorpudding> bullgard4, deprecated for what?
[19:14] <iceroot> Folklore: e.g. when i updates thunderbirde from 6 to 7 enigmail was not working. that is not a case i want by default
[19:14] <Folklore> Action oh yeah? Ubuntu has millions of apps too?
[19:14] <iaj> I know that du -h is giving me a list of filesizes inside the current directory.
[19:14] <Folklore> exactly...no random digs are necessary
[19:14] <tensorpudding> bullgard4, i don't think many programs have used it for configuration
[19:14] <iaj> Is there some good way to sort it, biggest on the bottom?
[19:14] <iceroot> Folklore: i took more then a week until enigmail was working with 7.0
[19:15] <Folklore> iceroot that sounds like a serious operating system problem
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: sure there are thousands in software centre alone
[19:15] <Folklore> thunderbird auto updates on my box and works fine
[19:15] <iceroot> Folklore: what?
[19:15] <iceroot> Folklore: that has nothing to do with the os
[19:15] <Folklore> action don't pretend linux has anywhere near as many apps as windows does, that's silly
[19:15] <oCean> Folklore: you have the freedom to choose Windows if you want. Please stop the offtopic discussion now
[19:15] <Folklore> iceroot a program update breaking other programs
[19:15] <Folklore> you don't see a problem with that?
[19:15] <iceroot> Folklore: enigmail is a thunderbird-addon
[19:15] <Folklore> that's crazy to me
[19:16] <oCean> Folklore: stop it now, last warning
[19:16] <tensorpudding> trotting out the numbers of apps available is pointless, why does it actually matter
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: its called a bug
[19:16] <llutz> could you please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <Guest30386> Really need help - HI I am a new user and accidently installed Ub 11.10 as default OS, on windows XP....how can I get dual boot option...please advise thanks in advance
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: remember blaster virus? Is that not the same?
[19:16] <Folklore> oCean what are you even talking about? hey I got an idea how about you stop warning me, ignoring everyone else, and make your focus fair and balanced, singling me out doesn't make you look very good
[19:16] <Folklore> just sayin...
[19:17] <iceroot> Folklore: we told you why there are no major updates and nopw stop it
[19:17] <zmbmartin> How long until thunderbird 8 is in the repos?
[19:17] <iceroot> zmbmartin: read the lines above
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Folklore: is the blaster virus in windows not the same?
[19:18] <zmbmartin> iceroot: I just got in here. I don't have any lines above.
[19:18] <iceroot> zmbmartin: there are normally no major-updates within an ubuntu-release
[19:18] <geoffmcc> Guest30386: you should install xp and then ubuntu and you should be fine
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> I love knowledge of both windows and Linux for when people think windows is faultless. Pure comedy
[19:18] <bullgard4> tensorpudding: I cited tha opinion of an archliniux author. I'd appreciate to hear how this relates to Ubuntu 11.10.
[19:19] <zmbmartin> iceroot:  The forums and some news posts say they will be available any day
[19:19] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: specially in that case there is no difference in windows and ubuntu you can do the same thing.
[19:19] <powdahound> Are karmic updates no longer available? Getting 404s hitting http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/*
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> zmbmartin: for which release?
[19:19] <iceroot> zmbmartin: then is the answer "any day"
[19:19] <tensorpudding> bullgard4, considering that Xdefaults is part of x.org, i would assume that its deprecation is the same in ubuntu
[19:19] <iceroot> !eol | powdahound
[19:20] <iceroot> powdahound: short answer is "yes no longer available"
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: just the fact of "updates shouldnt cause issues" :-D
[19:20] <powdahound> Interesting - didn't know the repos got taken down at that point. Will check these links. Thanks
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Karmic was the daddy
[19:20] <luist> hey guys… im trying to change the loading logo and i cant run update-initramfs correctly inside the chroot: http://pastie.org/2884835   so the logo only changes when turning off. what am i missing?
[19:21] <blargg> ActionParsnip, they shouldn't cause issues, which is why I use Ubuntu and their conservative approach.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> blargg: updates can cause issues, its a possibility in all softwares
[19:23] <blargg> ActionParsnip, yeah, my point was just that's why I like Ubuntu's updates mostly being just security, so they won't be as likely to break anything.
[19:23] <geoffmcc> blargg: a security update can foul up just as much as any other
[19:23] <bullgard4> tensorpudding: You said that you did not know why this article deprecates using .Xdefaults. Later you are saying that its deprecation is the same in Ubuntu. I am sorry but I cannot find any reasoning in your message.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> True. I'm massochistic and am running 12.04 now
[19:24] <tensorpudding> bullgard4, i didn't read the article
[19:24] <tensorpudding> but i know that Xdefaults is part of X.org
[19:24] <blargg> This HDD thrashing is driving me nuts. I just want it to buffer writes until it's got about 50MB, then flush it ALL before it starts reading more. This way a file copy won't thrash near as much (copying a ton of data here).
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> zmbmartin: http://edigitales.org/ready-with-your-firefox-8-and-thunderbird-8-install-now/
[19:24] <tensorpudding> X.org is an independent piece of software and ubuntu does not mess with it
[19:24] <tensorpudding> so if X.org has deprecated .Xdefaults, then it will be deprecated in Ubuntu too
[19:25] <tensorpudding> the bald statement of .Xdefaults being deprecated makes little sense to me
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> blargg: is your ram healthy?
[19:26] <bullgard4> tensorpudding: Do you speak about this: http://www.x.org/wiki/ ?
[19:26] <blargg> ActionParsnip, yeah, machine is fine. For some reason copying to a FAT partition thrashes a lot more. I'm thinking maybe it makes some meta-data uncacheable or something.
[19:26] <tensorpudding> yes
[19:26] <genii-around> xorg.conf is also deprecated but still can be used if you want.
[19:26] <boxybrown> anybody know how to set FQDN?
[19:27] <boxybrown> i think its getting borked by Avahi
[19:27] <tensorpudding> bullgard4, i think what they meant is that you should use .Xresources instead of .Xdefaults
[19:27] <blargg> I'm not sure whether cp etc. uses truncate to pre-allocate space. I know that things like ext4 don't care, since they allocate on write.
[19:27] <blargg> allocate on flush rather
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> blargg: FAT? Wow, people still use that?
[19:28] <mang0> Could anyone walk me through setting up an FTP server? I know next to nothing about it, and I'd like to know more/set one up myself. All the guildes I've looked at online haven't worked...
[19:28] <mang0> !ftp
[19:28] <luist> hey guys… im trying to change the loading logo and i cant run update-initramfs correctly inside the chroot: http://pastie.org/2884835  so the logo only changes when turning off. what am i missing?
[19:28] <mang0> !ftp > mang0
[19:28] <blargg> ActionParsnip, yeah, for interoperability. It's a drive with large files for transfer beween machines.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-883409-start-0.html
[19:29] <blargg> ActionParsnip, not literally FAT, but a variant (mount says vfat)
[19:29] <llutz> bullgard4: " man Xsession | less -p Xdefaults"    should answer your question. as tensorpudding said, its a Xorg thing and applies to all distros using Xorg
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> blargg: like an Amiga? :-)
[19:29] <bullgard4> tensorpudding: Ah, this is an interpretation that I should think over. Thank you very much for commenting.
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> blargg: is the filesystem fragmented?
[19:31] <blargg> ActionParsnip, no, but I am copying from another partition (at the beginning of the drive) to this one at the end.
[19:31] <K3n5his> lolol
[19:32] <blargg> I just want the system to flush all the buffered writes and block the reading process during this time, rather than interleaving reads during the flush.
[19:33] <blargg> I've tried vm.laptop_mode and adjustments of the various *ratio values.
[19:33] <bullgard4> llutz: Excellent! This answers my question. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[19:37] <xbox360service> hello
[19:37] <mikeliss> I really need some help. I installed the mainline kernel on my desktop, but now I can't get it to boot.
[19:38] <xbox360service> did u install from cd?
[19:38] <mikeliss> No, I had the regular kernel installed and it would occasionally freeze, so I installed the mainline from the deb files that the kernel team provides.
[19:39] <gmcinnes2> Anyone familiar with the lsb/init-functions ?
[19:39] <xbox360service> u shud install from a cd u can inatall to hard drive or run off cd with out a install
[19:39] <luist> hey guys… im trying to change the loading logo and i cant run update-initramfs correctly inside the chroot: http://pastie.org/2884835  so the logo only changes when turning off. what am i missing?
[19:39] <worrow> I'm looking for some onfo on different distros in general.
[19:40] <mikeliss> xbox360service: yeah, I tried that, but I can't get a live cd to boot. Tried using the 64 bit and the 32 bit.
[19:40] <mang0> worrow: #linux
[19:40] <xbox360service> did u fromate?
[19:40] <office3> why won't my ubuntu thumb drive boot this computer? it's brought up initramfs command line. What do I do here?
[19:41] <mang0> How can I use nautilus as an FTP server? CAN I use nautilus as an FTP server? According to !ftp I can?
[19:41] <mikeliss> xbox360service: Ummm, did I what?
[19:41] <mang0> office3: Make sure BIOS is set to boot from "Other" or "USB"
[19:42] <office3> mang0: it is!
[19:42] <xbox360service> can u boot from cd? if not go to bios and set ur 1st boot to cd/dvd rom then save and reboot with cd in
[19:42] <xbox360service> when u boot from cd u can clean the drive or pick what to install
[19:43] <geoffmcc> ActionParsnip: just thought i would let you know, the url you provided for zmbmartin actually gets you to beta version 9 of firefox/thunderbird, not version 8 like article suggests
[19:43] <office3> why won't my ubuntu thumb drive boot this computer? it's brought up initramfs command line. What do I do here?
[19:43] <xbox360service> brb
[19:45] <christian__1> test
[19:45] <abstrakt> is there a way to exclude a certain file or folder while tarballing with tar -cf foo.tar foo/ for example?
[19:46] <mikeliss> xbox360service: No, I can't get the live CD to boot. It crashes when I try.
[19:47] <genii-around> abstrakt: --exclude=<thingname-or-pattern-here>
[19:48] <BinaryMaster> anyone know what package I need to install to get pygraphviz
[19:48] <altf2o> mikeliss: when you say crash, does it just stop and hang like your system did before you installed the new kernel?
[19:48] <sveinse> I'm on a minimal ubuntu system, and are writing some scripts for installation. When doing apt-get install I get   "package1: Depends: package2 but it is not going to be installed". This is caused by a failing dependency in package2" Is there any option I can apt-get in order for it do investiage "package2" so the user can be more properly informed?
[19:49] <mikeliss> altf2o: No, previously, the system would boot, and then within a couple days would crash. Now it just won't boot.
[19:49] <boxybrown> hostname -f, anyone?
[19:49] <mikeliss> altf2o: I tried to get a hold of the reason my system was crashing previously, but couldn't ever find a reliable log.
[19:49] <abstrakt> genii-around, ahh yes i see it in the man page, but...
[19:49] <boxybrown> is network manager still messing this up?
[19:50] <abstrakt> genii-around, how do I specify multiple files... is it an ERE? a BRE? comma separated list?
[19:51] <genii-around> abstrakt: --exclude=file??pattern1  --exclude=file*pattern2           etc
[19:51] <altf2o> ahh ic. I have seen similar symptoms and it ended up being a stick of bad RAM. (As soon as I'd try and address a certain part of it, the whole PC would crash). Do the Ubuntu CD's boot on another system ok? Because if the disks are ok, then you need to most likely start looking at 1) incorrect BIOS configurations, 2) bad hardware.
[19:51] <abstrakt> genii-around, ahh ok so I can use the --exclude flag multiple times
[19:51] <genii-around> abstrakt: Yep
[19:51] <abstrakt> are the patterns globs or are they BRE or what?
[19:52] <mikeliss> altf2o: Hrm, if this is bad RAM, I'm going to feel crazy. But it was working kind of OK before I installed the mainline kernel. I'd love to get it back to that state. After that point, I could work on seeing if this is a RAM issue.
[19:53] <oCean> abstrakt: or use --exclude-from <filename>, where you specify the various patterns in <filename>
[19:54] <abstrakt> oCean, uhh, that still doesn't answer whether the pattern is supposed to be a glob or a BRE or what
[19:54] <oCean> abstrakt: not sure if it's regex, probably just pattern, not sure
[19:54] <abstrakt> oCean, define "just pattern"
[19:54] <abstrakt> glob pattern? like a regular shell expansion?
[19:54] <oCean> abstrakt: that's what I meant, but I'm not sure
[19:55] <mikeliss> altf2o: Holy crap, I just pulled out a RAM stick, and it friggin' booted.
[19:55] <abstrakt> my find man page doesn't say anything about --exclude-from
[19:55] <mikeliss> altf2o: I'm in shock right now.
[19:55] <abstrakt> er... tar man page
[19:55] <oCean> abstrakt: really? mine does
[19:55] <altf2o> sometimes the long shot does pay off, lol.
[19:56] <altf2o> I struggled for 2 days before I tried that. Unfortunately it's usually random, seemingly unrelated symptoms that you end up seeing.
[19:56] <srhb> Does anyone know how to make an Ubuntu live USB stick for Mac -without- using Mac? I have a Mac with neither harddisk nor dvd drive and would like to use it with Ubuntu for now.
[19:56] <mikeliss> altf2o: I'm going to uninstall the mainline kernel then shut it down and run mem test. If that shows a problem, I'm going to have to compensate you somehow.
[19:57] <ozzloy> srhb, i believe the same live disk can be used for macs as for other computers
[19:57] <ozzloy> srhb, so just make a live usb using whatever machine you have that works
[19:57] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: copy the mac live image to usb with dd or any tool you wish, such as unetbootin, or are you wanting to make a custom iso, that would be much more involved
[19:58] <srhb> ozzloy: Unfortunately no, Macs won't boot regular USB images.
[19:58] <altf2o> hehe, not needed, it was a lucky guess due to similar sounding symptoms. Yes I would definitely toss it back in and run memtest CD on it. Mine tested obviously corrupt, thankfully it was just one stick.
[19:58] <ozzloy> srhb, oh, nevermind then
[19:58] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: No, that won't work, Macs don't seem to boot the standard images.
[19:58] <bodhi_zazen> Why not ?
[19:59] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: I'm not an expert, but it has to do with the way the Mac boots. It needs a HFS partition or something.
[19:59] <bodhi_zazen> What live iso is there for a mac ?
[19:59] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: so you want to install Ubuntu into a USB that then boots on a mac, but you are not using a mac and you do not know how it boots ?
[19:59] <Jonii> Hey, what's the stuff that's run on login, what makes all the programs that do run, run on the startup, where do they exist, where is all that listed? I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 Unity
[20:00] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: That's the gist of it, hence why I'm looking for a guide.
[20:00] <lokidervish> o.O
[20:00] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: google is going to be your best bet, that sort of information is going to be very specialized
[20:01] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: It is, and I've had no luck on Google so far. All solutions need another Mac in order to make the USB bootable on Macs. Ah well.
[20:01] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: you can look at this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[20:02] <G-H0ST> Hi fellas, i have a... tiny problem :D
[20:02] <bodhi_zazen> you will need to understand the mac boot process, once you do that it should be easy, but I do not know
[20:02] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: Thanks, but it has no relelvant information.
[20:02] <srhb> Spot on. :P
[20:02] <bowo> How To, install ruby1.9 and earthquake Twitter Client Based Terminal
[20:02] <G-H0ST> how can i put my wifi card, which is usually getting between ETH0 and ETH1 to wlan0, if it isn't yet...
[20:02] <ssta> srhb: look at the hackintosh sites.  They have tweaked bootloaders for MAC that can boot USB
[20:03] <srhb> ssta: Hm thanks, I hadn't thought of that
[20:03] <G-H0ST> so example, lspci says its intel pro/wireless, blablabla. how to assign it to WLAN0?
[20:03] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: if that link is not relevant, you are probably out of luck
[20:03] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: I'm slowly coming to that conclusion as well. I love my Mac, but that it won't boot regularly from USB is just ridiculous.
[20:04] <PyTest> fun
[20:04] <ssta> get a refund on the MAC and buy 4 PCs with the money :)
[20:04] <bowo> great
[20:04] <srhb> ssta: Thanks, but that's not helping :)
[20:04] <PyTest> wow
[20:04] <G-H0ST> mac ftw, if you dont like it, give it off to me with lion on it *.*
[20:04] <bowo> hahahahaha :)
[20:04] <bowo> using hackintosh?
[20:04] <xruud> How can I fix having to fill in my password twice?
[20:05] <ssta> xruud: "fix"?
[20:05] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: I do not use your hardware at all, but I think you need to learn the internals of a live iso , which requires a ton of reading, and you find irrelevant, so you are stuck
[20:05] <bowo> exit > sleep bye all
[20:05] <xruud> ssta: is it normal that you fill in your password at any prompt twice?
[20:05] <G-H0ST> noone? :(
[20:05] <Jonii> Also, for what reason does my Ubuntu 11.10 crash pretty much always when I try to log out one user and then log in as another
[20:05] <ssta> xruud: only when you're changing it...
[20:06] <xruud> ssta: see, fix...
[20:06] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: I am quite familiar with Live ISOs and rolling my own - the trouble here is making the Mac actually boot from USB. The article you linked has no information on the topic, hence the comment about it being irrelevant - sorry for being vague.
[20:06] <donavan01> anyone know if there is some magic dance or sacrifice I have to preform to steve to get an old G5 PPC Mac Pro tower to install Ubuntu?
[20:06] <srhb> Boot UBUNTU from USB, I should say.
[20:06] <^jt> hi, is there a user version/equivelent of the init.d folder. Also, just to check this is actually what i'm looking for: any -x script put into the init.d folder will be run on startup?
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01, i think ppc is not officialy supported
[20:07] <ssta> srhb: it should be able to boot USB already (you know you need a GUID partition type?)
[20:08] <srhb> ssta: No, but that's the kind of information I need. Can you point me in the direction of making that via Linux or Windows?
[20:08] <G-H0ST> dmesg returns me with [ 75.somenumber] [DRM:Intel_prepare_page_flip] *ERROR* prepared flip multiple times
[20:08] <G-H0ST> wth?!
[20:09] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex its not officaly support but its part of the community support and its still being developed
[20:09] <xruud> Is there any way to check what ubuntu is doing when I fill in my password? I have to enter it twice, everywhere. Something miust be wrong the first time
[20:09] <reise6> Is there a way to require root password to open a file by editing /etc/sudoers?
[20:09] <ssta> srhb: I think the tool to do it in Ubuntu is called "gdisk".  I've never had to though.  I imagine a google for something like "GUID partition create ubuntu" or soemthing might help
[20:10] <srhb> ssta: Thanks. :)
[20:11] <altf2o> reise6: not sure if this is what you want, but you can always change the owner/group of the file to root:root (chown root:root <file>, chmod 0700 <file>) and only people who have 'sudo' permissions can edit/view it.
[20:12] <reise6> altf2o: Good idea. Thanks!
[20:13] <hilarie> through cli how can you check your system load?
[20:13] <ssta> "uptime"
[20:14] <hilarie> woot uptime 3m :) ty
[20:14] <bodhi_zazen> srhb: OK, well you need to learn how a mac boots
[20:14] <bodhi_zazen> I assume they can boot a CD, so it is possible
[20:14] <bodhi_zazen> You then incorporate that technology into your usb
[20:14] <srhb> bodhi_zazen: The way they boot from cds is apparently not the same way they boot from USB. I'm looking into it now, got some pointers from ssta. Thanks. :)
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> which usually involves extracting the iso, making changes as necessary, and then re-packaging
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> yea, you need to look at the internals of the boot process
[20:16] <Fodi69> hi, my ubuntu 11.10 can't find "easycrypt" in the software center, it is visible in the list when I search for it, but when I click it, it says that there is no such software in my current software sources??
[20:16] <zmbmartin> why is there a ppa for thunderbird 8 (thunderbird-stable) that works on 11.04 but not for 11.10?
[20:17] <ssta> iso is somewhat different.  iso as a format has a boot image that's loaded.  It's not the same as a disk, where there are two main (and a fair number of fringe) possibilities.  GUID and MBR.  (unhacked) MAC can only boot GUID I believe.
[20:17] <troll> hey guys i have some problems with my ubuntu
[20:17] <Guest50757> first: why cant i kill transmission (does not even work with kll -9)
[20:18] <charles> it's magic
[20:18] <charles> Guest50757: did it become unkillable / unresponsive at the beginning of a download, by any chance?
[20:18] <Guest50757> charles yes exactly
[20:19] <Fodi69> hi, my ubuntu 11.10 can't find "easycrypt" in the software center, when I search for it: it is visible in the list, but when I click it: it says that there is no such software in my current software sources!
[20:20] <somefreename> better name
[20:20] <inashdeen> is there a way to change /etc/lsb-release safely without breaking the system
[20:20] <somefreename> charles do i need a hammer to solve it?
[20:20] <xangua> inashdeen: what exactly did/want to do¿
[20:21] <Fodi69> hi, my ubuntu 11.10 can't find "easycrypt" in the software center, when I search for it: it is visible in the list, but when I click it: it says that there is no such software in my current software sources!
[20:21] <hilarie> I am setting up samba on my server and     create mask = 0755 is chmod stuff right? how do I make it so anyone can create/edit/read files?
[20:21] <inashdeen> xangua: i am building my own customize OS. see www.revamplinux.blogpsot.com  .  a user report a bug related to this conflict
[20:21] <G-H0ST> how do i reset gnome shell already?
[20:21] <G-H0ST> ctrl shift alt backspace?
[20:21] <xangua> inashdeen: i suggest you ##linux then
[20:21] <ssta> hilarie: no.  A mask is the permissions you do NOT want to be set
[20:21] <hilarie> G-host control alt delete
[20:22] <hilarie> ssta :O
[20:22] <G-H0ST> hilarie, thanks...
[20:22] <inashdeen> xangua: it is from ubuntu, so why should i go there?
[20:22] <hilarie> g-host log out shuts down gnome shell :)
[20:24] <joansirley> hello friends
[20:24] <hilarie> sup joansirley
[20:24] <joansirley> hilarie you rule
[20:24] <joansirley> ,)
[20:24] <Untouchab1e_> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 but my bluetooth keyboard and mouse are not detected, making installation somewhat difficult.. any way around this?
[20:24] <hilarie> I get that all the time :)
[20:25] <hilarie> Untouchable_ if you can use a non bt mouse and keyboard for install, your life will be much easier
[20:25] <Jonii> Hey, I'm thinking of making as sterile browsing user on my laptop as possible. No history, no cookies, nothing but a browser and a text editor, as clean and simple as possible
[20:25] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: I know, but sadly, I left my wired mouse at work and I dont have a wired keyboard lying around :(
[20:26] <Jonii> Are there any guides for that?
[20:26] <inashdeen> bump
[20:26] <Jonii> There's really no purpose for doing that other than, you know, seeing how it's done, how practical it is, and then taking those lessons and doing something else with that
[20:26] <hilarie> Untouchable_ I seem to remember reading instructions for installing a headless server using no keyboard, then you could SSH in, find your bt drivers, and install ubuntu desktop
[20:27] <joansirley> i would like someone to explain me how can I limit the autoconnect option of my wireless network. I don't want my wireless adapter to search other network I just want to connect to mine
[20:27] <inashdeen> my lightdm shutdown button turns horrible for unknown reason. the overall theme is ok, only the shutdown button got problem. is there a way to fix that>
[20:27] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: hmm, Im just thinking hard and Im convinced that when I installed 11.04 on this box, I used my bluetooth keyboard/mouse
[20:27] <rhizmoe> is there a way to prevent shotwell from running every time i plug my phone in?
[20:27] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: maybe I used the alternate installer?
[20:28] <rhizmoe> i mean, of course there is. but the setting's location is obscure.
[20:28] <hilarie> Untouchable_ Possible retarded solution: Have you tried resetting it and seeing if it gets noticed after awhile, this worked for my wireless keyboard and mouse
[20:28] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: resetting what exactly?
[20:28] <hilarie> the installer until it gets noticed, are you able to mess around with the bios with bt keyboard?
[20:29] <wiesshund> DOes 11.04 still install the unity interface?
[20:29] <joansirley> wiesshund
[20:29] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: the BIOS and everything else works fine with my keyboard/mouse
[20:29] <hilarie> wiesshund it does, but you can go into classic :)
[20:29] <Untouchab1e_> its just the 11.10 install that fails to detect
[20:29] <joansirley> unfornately for me yes
[20:29] <ssta> wiesshund: yes
[20:29] <rhizmoe> how do i prevent shotwell from running every time i plug my phone in?
[20:30] <hilarie> Untouchable_ reboot your heart out, a UPnP setup should work
[20:31] <TK5791> hello all, i'm new to ubuntu
[20:31] <joansirley> hello tk5791
[20:31] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: yeaa, Ive been trying
[20:31] <joansirley> come and read
[20:32] <hilarie> Untouchable_ hang out, maybe someone much smarter then me will log on.
[20:32] <charles> somefreename: if you'd stayed online, I would have answered :)
[20:32] <TK5791> just trying to get my head round Ubuntu having been a windows user for over 20 years
[20:32] <joansirley> it's very interesting if someone can help in my topics it will be i real help
[20:32] <born> can anyone tell me how do i get any **** torrent client **** working? #@*!@@#!
[20:32] <Untouchab1e_> hilarie: thanks for your help at least :)
[20:32] <TK5791> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10
[20:32] <joansirley> born....transmission is by default installed and worked for me
[20:33] <TK5791> can anyone help me download and run Skype?
[20:33] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, nautilus / edit / preferences / media tab
[20:33] <Untouchab1e_> TK5791: open the software center and search for skype
[20:33] <Untouchab1e_> easy as pie
[20:33] <TK5791> where is the software center?
[20:33] <born> joansirley well mine is freezeing, occupieing the cpu and unkillable => not working for me
[20:33] <office3> the thumbdrive I'm trying to boot from says (initramfs) mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device aufs mount failed.
[20:33] <TK5791> sorry this is all very new to me
[20:33] <born> is there any command line bug free client?
[20:34] <joansirley> ok born
[20:34] <brontosaurusrex> born, rtorrent
[20:34] <born> TK5791 just press the windows key and enter "software center"
[20:34] <rhizmoe> zykotick9: yeesh, that is non-obvious.
[20:34] <TK5791> thanks born
[20:34] <LemonAid> Hello. I`m having a bit of trouble with youtube-dl. When i try to convert a video to any format i get "WARNING: unable to obtain file audio codec with ffprobe".  I`ve done some looking on the web, and they say the problem is fixed. (?) Sorry if it isn`t the place to ask, feel free to redirect me if you think it`s apropriate.
[20:35] <joansirley> born....synaptic there is plenty of bittorrent client...azureus
[20:35] <TK5791> found it... entered Skype, all I get is an unhappy smile
[20:35] <rhizmoe> zykotick9: appears to be gnome3 only
[20:35] <rhizmoe> (i'm in gnome-classic, sorry)
[20:35] <jordan> born: are you the same person who was here a minute ago saying that Transmission froze as soon as it starting downloading, yes?
[20:35] <xangua> !partner
[20:35] <xangua> need to enable partner first TK5791 or just go to skype.com
[20:35] <rhizmoe> or whatever gnome-shell gets you
[20:35] <ssta> TK5791: skype is in the partner repository...not enabled by default
[20:35] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, sorry - i don't use gnome3 so not sure about it at all.  my bad.
[20:35] <office3> the thumbdrive I'm trying to boot from says (initramfs) mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device aufs mount failed.
[20:36] <rhizmoe> oh, maybe it's gnome2, then :)
[20:36] <rhizmoe> gnome-classic is in between them, apparently
[20:36] <TK5791> hey guys, loving this help... but what is the repository?
[20:36] <rhizmoe> featurewise, i should say
[20:36] <brontosaurusrex> !repository
[20:37] <highness> Hello. Was just curious. I made some updates yesterday (not entirely sure which updates though) and today my screen flickers and almost as if showing scanlines across my screen. Does anybody here know what might be wrong?
[20:37] <rhizmoe> ugh, i simply need to reinstall to 10.10
[20:37] <highness> Running an Nvidia Go 7600
[20:37] <jordan> born: what version of Transmission are you using, and what's the filesystem of the disk that you're downloading onto?
[20:37] <blaBlub> hi
[20:37] <TK5791> ubotto - thanks
[20:37] <rhizmoe> enough of this crap
[20:37] <TK5791> I'll take a look.
[20:37] <born> TK5791 its where you download software from... you just checked the official ubuntu software and skype is third party
[20:37] <blaBlub> I am facing problems with power management and fan control of my gfx
[20:38] <born> jordan im useing the ppa release 2.4 i think
[20:38] <TK5791> i've tried downloading direct from the skype site but but I was getting an internal error message
[20:38] <blaBlub> Has anyone a idea...?
[20:38] <inashdeen> if anyone dont mind, can someone teach me how to register to ##Linux, and please, dont give me the RTFM. i am like super noob and dont understand the manual a bit. thank you
[20:38] <xangua> !register | inashdeen
[20:38] <afk_>  /leave
[20:39] <brontosaurusrex> inashdeen, /nickserv help
[20:39] <born> TK5791 click at the software center then up ur screen there should edit apear
[20:40] <hilarie> what mask should I use https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html says 0755 but I want people connecting to be able to do anything to the samba share,
[20:40] <born> TK5791 you have to press edit => software sources and check ubuntu partners
[20:41] <hilarie> or is it the permissions that the file has on the server, so it doesn't really matter?
[20:41] <brontosaurusrex> hilarie, 755 is everything minus execute
[20:41] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: Ermm. No.
[20:41] <ssta> umm, it's everything except write for group and other
[20:41] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, what else?
[20:42] <bekks> 7 = 1 + 2 + 4, 5 = 1 + 4. 7 = rwx, 5 = r-x ...
[20:42] <hilarie> This is on my home network, I want me and my roomate to be able to use this share/drive like it was connected to our own computers
[20:42] <Adriannom> cat 1, laptop 0
[20:42] <jordan> born: what's probably happing is transmission is waiting on your filesystem to preallocate all the files for the content you're downloading
[20:42] <jordan> born: what filesystem are you using?
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> hilarie, ups, was totally wrong
[20:42] <jordan> born: on ext3 and ext4 this should be nearly instantaneous
[20:43] <born> jordan i dont realy care what transmission fails... i try it with rtorrent now
[20:43] <hilarie> is 666 what I am looking for?
[20:43] <hilarie> http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml
[20:43] <bekks> hilarie: What are you looking for? :)
[20:43] <Agent[99]> xxx
[20:44] <hilarie> for me and my roomate to be able to use this drive like it was our own
[20:44] <Chees_BHW> hi. where can i find the log of postfix? its not in /var/log
[20:44] <jordan> born: ok, hope you find something that works for you
[20:44] <hilarie> want to both be able to read and write
[20:44] <bekks> hilarie: Then you want a umask of 0777 for your share.
[20:44] <Agent[99]> try school
[20:44] <jodlajodla> hello, i have some questions for vftpd -> how to limit users to only one directory and give them permissions for uploading file in this directory?
[20:44] <hilarie> thanks bekks
[20:44] <bekks> You want to be able to execute files from there, too.
[20:44] <born> TK5791 tk press windows key and enter software sources.... there you have to check "third party software" and "partners" after that skype should be there
[20:44] <joansirley> just to help you can ADD pidgin-skype to pidgin from synaptic or whatever
[20:45] <hilarie> well bekks, neither computer this is shared with is going to be unix, and its a ntfs partition, so I think, the execute part doesn't so much matter,
[20:45] <TK5791> thank you born... just trying to read up about Repos
[20:45] <bekks> hilarie: Well, without x, you cannot execute files from there - not even linux executables.
[20:46] <bekks> Ok, there is a trick to do so ;)
[20:46] <z3r0c007> hello
[20:46] <joansirley> well people I quit see you soon ...you're very inspiring
[20:46] <z3r0c007> how to convert doc files to pdf files
[20:46] <Amoz> z3r0c007, open them with libreoffice and export/save them as PDF
[20:46] <brontosaurusrex> z3r0c007, libreoffice
[20:46] <bekks> z3r0c007: By using libre/open-office and convert them.
[20:47] <llutz> z3r0c007: http://kgsspot.blogspot.com/2011/09/convert-doc-to-pdf-in-command-line.html
[20:47] <hilarie> someone needs to make a package to rename libreoffice to its proper name, the new one freaks me out
[20:47] <z3r0c007> ok thanks
[20:47] <TK5791> how do I turn off the F**king Authentication B*****K
[20:48] <office3> the thumbdrive I'm trying to boot from says (initramfs) mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device aufs mount failed.
[20:48] <TK5791> got dam it this is frustrating
[20:48] <office3> What do I do?
[20:48] <Amoz> TK5791, watch your language :)
[20:48] <TK5791> sure
[20:48] <bekks> TK5791: please behave and use words without *, so others actually understand what you mean.
[20:48] <Chees_BHW> hi. where can i find the log of postfix? its not in /var/log ?
[20:48] <born> TK5791 you do not realy need to read that stuff
[20:49] <TK5791> bekks... seriously... would you prefer that I use the full spelling?
[20:49] <xruud> I guess I'm having a problem no-one here knows how to solve. Even though it is not just me having it
[20:49] <geoffmcc> !language |TK5791
[20:49] <hilarie> TK5791 Swear goddamnit! or you know, take a deep breath, and explain whats going on so maybe you can get some help
[20:49] <TK5791> ubotto... understand
[20:49] <TK5791> thankyou
[20:49] <xruud> (double pwd problem)
[20:49] <born> TK5791 lets do it step by step... do you find the software center?
[20:50] <bekks> TK5791: No. I just want to understand whats your problem with what exactly. Just describe it in detail, then someone can help you maybe.
[20:50] <TK5791> so, how do I turn off the Authentication when I don't have a password active?
[20:50] <office3> What do I do?
[20:50] <office3> the thumbdrive I'm trying to boot from says (initramfs) mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device aufs mount failed.
[20:50] <TK5791> thank you Bekks
[20:50] <susy2> ciao
[20:50] <susy2> !list
[20:50] <Chees_BHW> hi. where can i find the log of postfix? its not in /var/log ??
[20:50] <lokidervish> oo-BOON-too
[20:50] <Agent[99]> !mirrors
[20:51] <inashdeen> is there a way to change description on /etc/lsb-release safely
[20:51] <Agent[99]> !torrents
[20:51] <bekks> TK5791: You have to have an active password, and then you can turn the authentication off.
[20:51] <TK5791> how do I get myself an active password?
[20:51] <Agent[99]> sharing is carrying
[20:51] <Agent[99]> or in this case seeding
[20:52] <bekks> TK5791: You cannot login without an deactivated password ;)
[20:52] <blaBlub> My gfx card's fan-speed is driving my crazy....
[20:52] <TK5791> ?
[20:52] <blaBlub> I need help, please...
[20:52] <Agent[99]> help your self
[20:53] <office3> I'm going to remake my boot thumbdrive with unetbootin, any tips?
[20:53] <born> TK5791 im not quite sure what you mean but try windows key + user accounts
[20:53] <TK5791> ok... so I have no password... without a password I can't create a password... what gives?
[20:53] <Agent[99]> fell free to fix it
[20:53] <brandon_> Anybody know where I can find a more detailed manual for XChat-GNOME IRC? The manual that comes with the program doesn't say much about CLI features.
[20:53] <Chees_BHW> hi. where can i find the log of postfix? its not in /var/log ???
[20:53] <ssta> how do you have "no password"?
[20:53] <bekks> TK5791: How do you know you have a deactivated password?
[20:53] <blaBlub> When it has speed up, the speed never lowers... Newest driver installed..
[20:53] <born> Tk5791 im quite sure you have a password? you mean your userpassword or the root password?
[20:54] <Fanda> My Ubuntu 11.10 don't load after GRUB loading, I see only a black screen. Can anybody help me?
[20:54] <TK5791> when I login to the user accounts... password field = none
[20:54] <genii-around> Chees_BHW: /var/log/mail.log usually
[20:54] <blaBlub> Anyone has faced problems with fan speed  of gfx card in ubuntu
[20:54] <bekks> TK5791: "login to the user accounts" means what exactly?
[20:54] <geoffmcc> Chees_BHW: quick google search of postix log file + ubuntu says /var/log/mail.log
[20:54] <TK5791> don't know Root password... I'm only aware of user password
[20:54] <blaBlub> Agent[99], how do I fix it?
[20:54] <TK5791> User Account=
[20:54] <Amoz> TK5791, in ubuntu, the root account doesn't have a password. It's disabled by default
[20:55] <bekks> TK5791: And a not shown password doesnt mean it is a) deactivated or b) not set. It isnt shown. It cannot be shown since all that is stored is the hash of the password.
[20:55] <bekks> Amoz: Wrong.
[20:55] <Agent[99]> !gfx drivers
[20:55] <genii-around> blaBlub: Is it an nvidia?
[20:55] <TK5791> Login Options... Password None
[20:55] <bekks> Amoz: the root password isnt disabled, but just not set.
[20:55] <linds6630> Can someone tell me which of these packages that updated would be a likely culprit for killing compositing? http://pastebin.com/JF2hBCvD - i made it easier to read than the log does.
[20:55] <blaBlub> genii-around, Yes Nvida 450 gtx
[20:55] <TK5791> don't know what this Root Password is
[20:55] <Amoz> bekks, ah, sorry
[20:55] <bekks> Amoz: And a password being not set prevents you from login in.
[20:56] <bekks> TK5791: Read what I wrote seconds ago.
[20:56] <born> Tk5791 you still had to enter a password when you set up ur ubuntu
[20:56] <genii-around> !info nvclock | blaBlub .. this is also for setting fan speed
[20:56] <blaBlub> !gfx drivers
[20:56] <ssta> bekks: well, technically it is set...to an impossible value... "!"
[20:57] <TK5791> I know... but I don't like passwords when I'm the only one using the comp
[20:57] <usr13_> linds6630:  killing compositing?
[20:57] <Fanda> My Ubuntu 11.10 don't load after GRUB loading, I see only a black screen. Can anybody help me?
[20:57] <bekks> TK5791: Then enable autologin.
[20:57] <blaBlub> genii-around, Yes but that don't seems to work
[20:57] <TK5791> the original password was removed with none because I choose auto login
[20:57] <bekks> The password isnt removed.
[20:57] <bekks> TK5791: Autologin is just enabled.
[20:57] <blaBlub> genii-around,  It's very old software, too
[20:57] <cgtdk> Why doesn't Firefox update to version 8? I thought they were going to update the repositories with every new version because of Firefox' new release schedule.
[20:58] <geoffmcc> TK5791: even though u enabled autologin, the password you selected is still the password to sudo
[20:58] <TK5791> Bekks... Password = None
[20:58] <linds6630> i get composite sync error when trying to use gnome shell usr13_
[20:58] <born> TK5791 the password is still in use for many things for example to encrypt your other passwords when you check "auto login" on msn
[20:58] <usr13_> TK5791: So you have forgotten your password.  Right?
[20:58] <TK5791> no... I know the old password but it doesn't work
[20:59] <bekks> TK5791: "doesnt work" means "I forgot the new one".
[20:59] <TK5791> seriously I haven't a password that I didn't create
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: are you locked out, can you not run passwd and change?
[21:00] <rodrigo> oi
[21:00] <usr13_> !password | TK5791
[21:00] <born> TK5791 are you sure you are remembering the right password? where are you trying to enter it?
[21:01] <TK5791> I click on none... it takes me to password... I type in old password and new password and the box to click for change is greyed out
[21:01] <boxybrown> hey guys, how do I get my fqdn working correctly when using network-manager
[21:02] <usr13_> TK5791: Are you logged in as the original (first) user?
[21:02] <ssta> "click on none" where?
[21:02] <TK5791> yes
[21:02] <TK5791> password none
[21:02] <boxybrown> hostname -f won't give my fqdn because of the way network-manager edits /etc/hosts
[21:02] <usr13_> TK5791: Or have you added a new user to the system? (Second user account.)
[21:02] <ssta> TK5791: where?
[21:02] <TK5791> user accounts
[21:02] <TK5791> no second user
[21:03] <geoffmcc> TK5791: Are you trying to change the password of the user you are currently logged in as?
[21:03] <Koolvin> Hey, I have intel pentium e5700, it's a 64bit processor, would I dl x86 or 64bit
[21:04] <askhader> Koolvin: Relly?
[21:04] <askhader> Really*
[21:04] <askhader> You can't guess?
[21:04] <askhader> 64 bit
[21:04] <Koolvin> Right
[21:04] <askhader> But x86 will work.
[21:04] <FloodBot1> askhader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <PyTest> fun
[21:04] <Koolvin> Intel is all wacky with their instruction sets.
[21:04] <TK5791> I'm trying to create a password so I can close down the authentication popup
[21:04] <ssta> TK5791: did you enter the new password twice?
[21:04] <TK5791> yes
[21:05] <santanuc> 1
[21:06] <rduplain> anyone know if you can list a package's license with dpkg or an apt tool?
[21:07] <ssta> TK5791: does it say "too short" for the new password?  if it won't accept the new password as valid, it won't let you change
[21:07] <fedcab> Can someone please tell me how to reset defective (user specific) settings preventing unity to start? I get no window manager after I obviously messed up my settings by installing gnome. Or at least can someone tell me where unity logs error reports?
[21:07] <TK5791> the change box is greyed out
[21:07] <TK5791> it won't even attempt to change the password
[21:07] <geoffmcc> TK5791: what pop up, like when your trying to install something but need more privliges
[21:07] <TK5791> geoffmcc = yes
[21:08] <TK5791> authentication
[21:08] <geoffmcc> TK5791: why not just wait to do that, go to a terminal, type passwd and change your password and then do what your trying to do
[21:08] <ssta> rduplain: I don't thing the Packages files have that information, so probably not...
[21:08] <vegeta59> BONJOUR
[21:08] <zykotick9> rduplain, even "apt-cache show foo" doesn't say anything about license, perhaps apt doesn't include it?  good luck.
[21:08] <vegeta59> vous allez bien
[21:08] <rduplain> ssta: I didn't think so, but wondering if there is a db out there
[21:09] <vegeta59> ya des francais
[21:09] <zykotick9> !fr | vegeta59
[21:10] <vegeta59> zykotick9 merci
[21:10] <geoffmcc> TK5791: now that i think of it, the way your trying to change password isnt working probably cause the authentication box is still up
[21:10] <born> TK5791 i think what he is trieing to suggest is that you pess the windows key and enter "Terminall" than you enter "passwd"
[21:11] <ssta> rduplain: there are for Debian, but I ddon't know about for Ubuntu
[21:11] <geoffmcc> and close the auth window if its up
[21:11] <usr13_> geoffmcc: born:  I think he's got it now.
[21:12] <TK5791> ok... I'll give it a try
[21:12] <usr13_> TK5791: As rduplain suggests:  Open a terminal, type passwd and change your password.
[21:12] <born> usr13_ sry im new in supporting people
[21:12] <ssta> rduplain: if you had a full mirror, then you can hack something together with dpkg-deb I suppose.
[21:12] <TK5791> sorry... hasn't worked
[21:13] <TK5791> should I just try to reboot?#
[21:13] <usr13_> TK5791: What didn't work?
[21:13] <rduplain> from arghx in #debian -> rduplain: /usr/share/doc/libc6/copyright substitute libc6 for your package
[21:13] <born> TK5791 if there nothing apears when you type in ur password dont be afraight... it works but he just shows no response
[21:13] <mkjackson> hey folks, been thinking of updating my father's old laptop which has been running ubuntu 8.10 (or so)... does 11.10 perform just as well, or hopefully better, on old hardware? I know we're not M$ but new technology does tend to require better h/w...
[21:13] <macromancer> has anyone here tried to convert FLV->WAV using FFmpeg? i'm getting "[flv @ 0x8f37a80] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: speex, 16000 Hz, 1 channels) \ /usr/share/red5/webapps/audiorecorder/streams/audioStream_1321648462114_43.flv: could not find codec parameters"
[21:13] <usr13_> TK5791: What did you do? (That did not work?)
[21:13] <macromancer> flv is audio w/Speex codec
[21:13] <ssta> rduplain: oh, if you already have the package installed, then yes
[21:14] <TK5791> I've closed all the windows and tried to reset password but Change box is still greyed out
[21:14] <usr13_> TK5791: As rduplain suggests:  Open a terminal, type passwd and change your password.
[21:14] <geoffmcc> TK5791 as i suggested a few times try passwd in term
[21:14] <TK5791> ok
[21:14] <TK5791> I'll try that
[21:15] <born> TK5791 if you dont know how to open a terminal just ask
[21:15] <born> geoffmcc im new in helping... if i make things worse just tell me
[21:15] <genn> anyone know how i can set mplayer as the default media player?  it's not showing up in the 'other applications'  list & i no longer have the use a command option
[21:16] <TK5791> ok
[21:16] <TK5791> password updated via Terminal
[21:16] <ssta> mkjackson: 11.10 needs beefier hardware to run the default install.  There are lightweight WMs though that will probably work fine
[21:16] <geoffmcc> born: your fine, i just knew he still needed help when usr13 said something cause i was getting pm'd by him
[21:17] <geoffmcc> TK5791: ok now try what you were doing
[21:17] <hackenschmidt> hey, what does the "." at the end the list of permissions mean? e.g. "-rwx-r-xr-x."
[21:17] <TK5791> ok, thanks one and all, so how do I turn off the Authentication
[21:17] <TK5791> ?
[21:17] <bashnerd> hackenschmidt: I think is just for a matter of typography.
[21:18] <hackenschmidt> bashnerd, so why do some files have it and other don't?
[21:18] <geoffmcc> Tk5791: it can be done but i dont recomend it   http://help.ubuntu.com/community/rootsudo   at bottom Remove password promt for sudo... but again, i dont recomend
[21:19] <guntbert> hackenschmidt: what files have that? show us a pastebin please
[21:19] <geoffmcc> tk5791: yes you may be only one using computer locally, but remember, your on the internet with it
[21:19] <deej1976> hackenschmidt: Can you send an ls -lart of a directory that contains files with and without the ending .
[21:19] <born> by starting "User Accounts" but i would recommend to keep it active... cause its used for some other things
[21:19] <hackenschmidt> they're cron scripts.
[21:19] <hackenschmidt> ya sure
[21:20] <hackenschmidt> http://pastebin.com/6e56znab
[21:21] <arxamp> hi all
[21:21] <arxamp> any recommendations on a modern, supported video card for a build-it-yourself desktop?
[21:22] <guntbert> hackenschmidt: you are not making this up, are you? I have never seen that before
[21:22] <hackenschmidt> not arxamp, not ati
[21:22] <hackenschmidt> gunbert, NO.
[21:22] <born> arxamp i recommend nvidia... it has the best linux support
[21:22] <Koolvin> Best opengl support*
[21:22] <hackenschmidt> gunbert, the only reason I'm looking at this is because cron is doing so weeeerid stuff
[21:23] <born> ati + linux = no good
[21:23] <deej1976> hackenschmidt: The files have ACL set.
[21:23] <deej1976> hackenschmidt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314425
[21:23] <cgtdk> I've had trouble with ATI drivers too. No problems with any of my Nvidia GPUs though.
[21:23] <ratcheer> arxamp: I run an ATI 6770. It is great, but a lot of trouble to keep it working with Linux. I also recommend nVidia.
[21:23] <born> TK5791 all right? if you need something just ask
[21:23] <X-tonic> why does 11.10 query for i386 updates (mine is a amd64 install) when I do a apt-get update?
[21:23] <arxamp> born: thanks.
[21:23] <hackenschmidt> deej1976, thanks
[21:24] <bekks> X-tonic: Because you have a multilib system and some packages are not available for amd64 -or- you have i386 system.
[21:24] <hackenschmidt> ati and gnome3 don't play nice at all. I had a 6970 and ended up returning it because it was so buggy
[21:24] <hackenschmidt> bought a 560 ti and haven't had any problems since
[21:25] <inashdeen> could not get a distribution template. what does that mean?
[21:25] <bekks> hackenschmidt: That doesnt have anything to do with the ati hardware, but with the driver for it.
[21:25] <X-tonic> bekks: but is 11.10 multilib by default? cause in 11.04 this did not happen.
[21:25] <reut> I need help installing opencv on ubuntu 11.10
[21:25] <bekks> X-tonic: Ubuntu amd64 is multilib since a very, very long time.
[21:26] <hackenschmidt> bekks, yes, but it's not much good without a driver.  :)
[21:26] <spinx60> inguy
[21:26] <inashdeen> if anyone dont mind, can someone just open /etc/lsb-release and tell me the settings in there. i messed mine and now i cannot update files
[21:26] <bekks> hackenschmidt: So the driver was buggy, not the hardware ;)
[21:26] <Guest47059> hi, I just installed newest ubuntu fresh; and wondering how to enable compiz. I have synaptic installed; but when I search compiz, I get a little grey exclamation point next to it.... any one know what i should do??
[21:27] <ratcheer> The latest driver, 11.11, is working pretty well with Gnome3. Not perfect, but pretty good.
[21:27] <bekks> inashdeen: Please tell us what you have in that file.
[21:27] <bekks> !paste | inashdeen
[21:27] <deej1976> !info ccsm
[21:27] <hackenschmidt> bekks, fair enough. But the windows driver was also terrible. catalyst is awful.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Guest47059: Compiz is used by default in Ubuntu if your graphics card / drivers support compiz.
[21:27] <Stava> I've read somewhere that ubuntu spins down/up the hard drive a lot more than is healthy (at least on laptops?). Is that true? If so, how do I prevent that?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | Guest47059
[21:28] <Stava> I've actually found this, http://tjp3000.blogspot.com/2009/05/disable-frequent-hard-disk-spindown-in.html is that a good idea for 11.10?
[21:28] <inashdeen> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/742665/
[21:28] <ratcheer> deej1976: Try compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:28] <X-tonic> bekks: when i had 11.04 installed, and when I did apt-get update, it never hit the i386 Packages. here in 11.10, even after a fresh install it does.
[21:28] <Guest47059> thanks I will try it.
[21:28] <deej1976> ratcheer: it was for Guest47059
[21:29] <bekks> X-tonic: Why did you touched that file at all? :)
[21:29] <inashdeen> bekks: never mind, i solved it already. may i ask why ubuntu is rigid regarding lsb-release whereas debian do not need that file
[21:30] <X-tonic> bekks: sorry, i didnt get which file are you talking of?
[21:32] <guntbert> X-tonic: I guess that was not intended for you :-) (he was talking about lsb_release)
[21:33] <private_meta> bildramer: why do a couple of letters in caps annoy you so much?
[21:34] <guntbert> private_meta: wrong window? :)
[21:34] <private_meta> dammit... first wrong nick, then wrong windw
[21:36] <boxybrown> whyyyy is this software so shitty
[21:36] <usr13> inashdeen_: What id debian's method of identifying it's version numbers?
[21:36] <boxybrown> and why wont ubuntu fix its shitty bugs
[21:36] <Flashbang> Could someone tell me how to enable nautilis to search in hidden folders?
[21:36] <boxybrown> so broken
[21:36] <usr13> boxybrown: What bug?
[21:36] <usr13> boxybrown: What is broken?
[21:36] <bashnerd> Flashbang: ctrl+h
[21:37] <Flashbang> thanks bash
[21:37] <boxybrown> usr13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/645648
[21:37] <boxybrown> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/632896
[21:37] <Darrow> Hey everyone, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a VirtualBox.
[21:37] <Darrow> The CD boots but then when I go to Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black.
[21:37] <Darrow> Anyone know why?
[21:37] <nu1> hello anyone knows if there is a similar application for ubuntu to readon tv? I would like to view videos and some live streaming stuff that is offered by readon. Any suggestions?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Darrow: What iso are you using? Did you check the md5?
[21:38] <acu> Darrow: few possible reasons - maybe you try to install 64 bit OS in 32 bit machine ?
[21:38] <nu1> I installed miro, but do not know where to get the list of urls to online videos
[21:38] <boxybrown> and this one
[21:38] <boxybrown> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/8980
[21:38] <boxybrown> which has been open since 2004!!!!
[21:38] <Darrow> acu: It's 11.10 server edition, 32 bit.
[21:39] <Darrow> Jordan_U: MD5 seems fine, not sure what happened. I can choose the language, but after that, any choice I choose turns the screen black.
[21:39] <Flashbang> bashnerd, hm I already had hidden files enabled, I meant the actualy search function. I am currently trying to search for a file in FireFox's cache folder and nothing appears in the results even If I am positive the file exists
[21:39] <usr13> boxybrown: Which one?  632896?
[21:39] <usr13> 632896
[21:39] <usr13> or... ?
[21:39] <boxybrown> 8980 has been open since 2004
[21:39] <guntbert> boxybrown: ranting here doesn't help any  and please mind your language
[21:40] <boxybrown> guntbert: sorry!
[21:40] <boxybrown> i just dont like wasting my time trying to find a workaround for something that should definitely work
[21:41] <boxybrown> and other software depends on
[21:41] <Flashbang> brb
[21:41] <inashdeen_> usr13: come again, i dont get it
[21:41] <usr13> boxybrown: I think that it happens to have happened again.
[21:41] <usr13> not that it never got resolved.
[21:41] <born> guys when i try to install software it installes but dpkg response with 1 after
[21:42] <A|i3N> ok so, ubuntu 11.04, clean install as of last night. Just installed K9Copy to make a backup copy of an expensive DVD - I load the program, hit open and the program just closes on me.
[21:43] <inashdeen_> minimized tray icon is not showing on cairo dock on ubuntu 11.10. how do i fix this?
[21:43] <mdmkolbe> I just tried to install ubuntu (11.10) but after the initial install process the BOIS doesn't recognizing the HD as bootable (I get a no O/S found error).  Any ideas?
[21:43] <born> guys when i try to install software it installes but dpkg response with 1 after how can i find out whats his problem?
[21:44] <bekks> born: TAke a closer look, it tells you exactly whats returning 1.
[21:45]  * LmAt is away: Away currently, but you can try me...
[21:45] <ratcheer> mdmkolbe: Do you know how to chroot to your installation from a live cd?
[21:47] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: with a bit of help, I'm up for it (Give me a moment to boot the live CD, but I need guidence after that (I am familiar with command line, but not chroot specifically))
[21:48] <born> bekks http://paste.debian.net/146207/ <- maybe you can tell me =)
[21:49] <bekks> born: Read line 3 and 4. Thats an exact error description.
[21:50] <rduplain> ssta: I have dpkg-query and copyright file script going for installed packages. thanks for your help
[21:50] <born> bekks good work! now lets do something against it :P
[21:50] <Flashbang> I already have hidden files enabled, I meant the actualy search function. I am currently trying to search for a file in FireFox's cache folder and nothing appears in the results even If I am positive the file exists
[21:50] <theshadow> Alright, I've asked this before but now I just lost two hours of work because the intel drivers caused a hang check failure which locked up the machine and corrupted files when forcefully rebooted. I've commented on a bug, I've begged, but seriously. I need some solution because for the first time in 4 years I'm considering ditching ubuntu
[21:50] <Flashbang> can anyone help?
[21:50] <bekks> born: Well, take a look at the complete output to see whats going wrong.
[21:51] <boxybrown> usr13: what happened again? the problem cropped up again?
[21:52] <born> bekks sry im stupid... here is the output http://paste.debian.net/146209/
[21:52] <bekks> born: show us the output of lsb_release -a please
[21:53] <A|i3N> ok so K9copy crashes on a clean system - any ideas? I just installed libdvdcss2 and it still just closes on me. Or is there another channel I should ask this is
[21:53] <A|i3N> er in
[21:53] <Alperen> how can i filter rss feeds in evolution ?
[21:54] <Valtam> can I add debian repos to ubuntu?
[21:54] <born> http://paste.debian.net/146210/ i can tell you what i was trying what it may caused... if it helps
[21:54] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: heh, I think I found the problem (somehow the partation never was marked bootable).  (I'm in the process of testing this theory.)
[21:54] <Flashbang> thanks for the help...
[21:54] <born> bekks http://paste.debian.net/146210/ i tried to unistall polipo... something did not work
[21:54] <cvr> A|i3N: try a different disc, some discs with different protection crash it
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Valtam: No.
[21:55] <Valtam> ok
[21:55] <A|i3N> oooh ok. It's cars2 so it's pretty new.
[21:55] <theshadow> Anyone? Seriously, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/737972/ I've tried to get someone to comment but for the last two weeks it's felt like no one has cared. I'll get what ever data you want but this is affecting productivity in a bad way and didn't start happening till an update came through.
[21:55] <ratcheer> mdmkolbe: I don't think that's it.
[21:55] <cvr> sony/disney usually big issues
[21:57] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: after setting the boot flag in gparted (from Boot CD) and rebooting it still doesn't work, so you are right that that wasn't the issue.
[21:57] <A|i3N> cvr: i used to have a library or something that cracked copy protection like that... i can't remember the name of it though? Seems like it was on a site having something to do with ubuntu restricted software or something
[21:58] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: (I'm unsure whether to set the boot flag back to the way it was (off).)
[21:58] <ratcheer> mdmkolbe: Personally, I would put it back the way it was.
[21:59] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: done
[22:00] <Jonii> Hey, I'm thinking of making as sterile browsing user on my laptop as possible. No history, no cookies, nothing but a browser and a text editor, as clean and simple as possible
[22:00] <Jonii> Are there any guides to doing that?
[22:00] <ratcheer> mdmkolbe: Can you boot to a live CD and still be connected here?
[22:00] <Jonii> Like, what sort of stuff you'd have to take into account?
[22:00] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: yes
[22:00] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: the boot CD is on a different machine
[22:00] <iceroot> Jonii: kiosk-mode
[22:01] <iceroot> Jonii: have a look at it
[22:01] <ratcheer> Ok, do it and I will try to walk you through the process of setting up grub.
[22:01] <born> bekks im still very very unhappy with my error... =/
[22:02] <usr13> born: What error?
[22:02] <mdmkolbe> ratcheer: I'm surprised that the installation form the Boot CD didn't already do that
[22:02] <born> http://paste.debian.net/146210/
[22:02] <subman> How do I tell if my OpenGL is functioning properly?
[22:02] <born> usr13 http://paste.debian.net/146210/
[22:03] <ratcheer> mdmkolbe: It should have, but something is messed up. Maybe we can fix it.
[22:03] <usr13> born: Ok, what error?
[22:03] <deej1976> subman: Try glxgears
[22:04] <Jonii> iceroot: nope
[22:04] <subman> deej1976, yeah, tried that.  I could not run it or install it.
[22:04] <hilarie> Hello... so... looking for a way to start ftp downloads from my ubuntu headless server preferable with a GUI or webgui of some sort, any ideas?
[22:04] <illy> hi everyone - i need some laptop advice. my 5 year old Dell X1 is about to bite the dust, and i'd like to get a laptop  with Ubuntu as the host operating system. does anyone have a recommendation on which laptop to buy?
[22:04] <born> usr13 sry was the wrong one here is the right http://paste.debian.net/146211/
[22:04] <deej1976> !mesa-ulits | subman
[22:04] <guntbert> !ftp | hilarie
[22:05] <subman> deej1976, mesa-utils
[22:05] <office3> will edubuntu work in xubuntu
[22:05] <hilarie> guntbert is there a webgui way to do things like that?
[22:05] <deej1976> hilarie: On the server install openssh-server and sftp to download
[22:05] <deej1976> !info mesa-ulits | subman
[22:05] <deej1976> !info mesa-utils | subman
[22:06] <guntbert> hilarie: web-GUI for ftp??
[22:06] <hansg01> how to change hardware temperature from F to C?
[22:06] <hilarie> guntbert kinda, I want to be able to initialize transfers to my server from a 3rd box
[22:06] <subman> deej1976, 180 fps good?
[22:06] <usr13> born: apt-get -f install
[22:06] <deej1976> subman: What GPU?
[22:07] <guntbert> hilarie: sorry, I don't understand what you try to do
[22:07] <deej1976> !info openssh-server
[22:07] <deej1976> !sftp
[22:07] <subman> deej1976, nVidia 6200
[22:08] <hilarie> deej1976 the ftp I want to pull it from is offsite
[22:08] <born> usr13 the same lame error message. shall i paste it again?
[22:08] <deej1976> subman: Have you tried any opengl games? tuxracer?
[22:08] <hilarie> I guess I am looking for a ftp client that can be controlled remotely?
[22:08] <deej1976> hilarie: Ok, filezilla ( sudo apt-get install filezilla )
[22:09] <subman> deej1976, Yes, Flightgear.  Both my dual-cores go to 100% and the framerate is only at about 4-5 fps
[22:09] <Multbrelch> hansg01, what do you mean precisely?
[22:09] <hilarie> deej1976 will look into that
[22:09] <born> usr13 do we need a hammer?
[22:10] <ZeloZelos> lately when i connect to my tv/sound system the sound is very noisy, i never noticed it before any suggestions?
[22:10] <usr13> born: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:11] <ZeloZelos> not sure if its the os or my system..anyone know how to diagnose?
[22:11] <born> usr13 already tried... it just ends  (proberply normal) with no output but dont solve the problem
[22:12] <deej1976> subman: Just looking up glxinfo strings
[22:12] <subman> deej1976, No problem, doing some research here as well
[22:13] <deej1976> subman: glxinfo | grep ^Open
[22:13] <deej1976> subman: Should say NVidia
[22:14] <subman> deej1976, Yes, it does
[22:14] <Jonii> iceroot: that seems mostly what I was looking for, though my google fu failed the first time I tried it there
[22:15] <Jonii> It tells you to change user privileges, but I can't find any documentation about what are those privileges, except entries in that gui-thing
[22:16] <deej1976> subman: driver: OpenGL version string: 4.1.0 NVIDIA 280.13
[22:17] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, did you check connections of the cables?
[22:17] <subman> deej1976, OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 280.13
[22:17] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch yup, all the same as always, never been changed, but noise is now appearing
[22:17] <Jonii> Also, if anyone has any good guide about how does Ubuntu and Linux in general work, a bit under-the-hood like stuff about everything, that works as an advanced introduction to the system and can be read in less than 2 days(main topics in some depth + links to additional resources), feel free to share
[22:18] <born> usr13 okey... ur not responding... i try it with the hammer :P
[22:18] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, can you test your system with another computer?
[22:18] <bekks> Jonii: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Bible-2010-openSUSE-Distributions/dp/0470485051
[22:18] <Jonii> Sure, I've been asking for such a resource here for months now. I'm a bit unsure if I should just stop
[22:18] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch i can use my phone
[22:18] <bekks> Jonii: The URL doesnt mention ubuntu, but the book does.
[22:19] <VampsDaBeast> any one know what the package i need to install gnome 2(latest)
[22:19] <Jonii> bekks: seems it's a physical book. If I'm to read it, I gotta find other ways to read it
[22:19] <VampsDaBeast> lemme reword that.. i want to install gnome 2 and need the apt-get install line to install all of it,
[22:19] <bekks> VampsDaBeast: Hopefully some backport PPA. Oneric doesnt support gnome2 anymore.
[22:19] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch sounds fine with phone
[22:20] <plummerb> Gnome is the name
[22:20] <VampsDaBeast> really, bekks
[22:20] <bekks> VampsDaBeast: Really.
[22:20] <VampsDaBeast> bekks wow.. didnt think they'd take support for older gnome out..
[22:21] <Jonii> I'd prefer resources that I didn't have to obtain illegally, but I'm not gonna complain. Thanks bekks
[22:21] <bekks> Jonii: You can buy the book legaly.
[22:22] <Koolvin> Hey how can I find the used/remaining space in ubuntu server 10.04
[22:23] <bekks> Koolvin: Using "df -h", e.g.
[22:23] <xxiao> can i point nfsserver to run on eth1 instead of eth0?
[22:23] <xxiao> eth1 is for internal network
[22:23] <Jonii> bekks: nah. There are some reasons I'm not going to do that
[22:23] <xxiao> if i use internal ips on /etc/exports it will be auto on eth1 then?
[22:23] <Jonii> bekks: though, now that you insist, I think that book should be available in at least one of the libraries I have access to
[22:24] <bekks> xxiao: All you could do is to create a share that is accesible for the internal network only. See man 5 exports for details.
[22:24] <Jonii> Good thinking !
[22:24] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, the best way is to test your audio/video system with a second computer
[22:25] <ZeloZelos> ok ty Multbrelch ill give it a try
[22:25] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, and: Did it appear after an update of your ubuntu system?
[22:25] <Jonii> By the way, how come there's virtually no documentation about anything Linux is and does?
[22:26] <bekks> Jonii: There are TONS of documentation about that - most of it you wont find in a library, unfortunately.
[22:26] <Koolvin> Hey, I install ubuntu with a flash drive, and now it won't boot unless I boot from the flash drive. Did I accidentally install the MBR onto the flashdrive?
[22:26] <Jonii> man pages for specific commands, so if you know what you're going to do, and what commands you're going to use to do it, you can get some help. Then, other than that... Nothing that I can see. Maybe the source code is well documented, I don't know, but for an ordinary user, nothing
[22:26] <plummerb> Jonii  Yes, Linux is community driven....  Therefore most documentation is found IN the community.  That is, online.
[22:27] <urlin2u> Jonii, you have not been looking it is open source, everything including the code is available.
[22:27] <bekks> Koolvin: Not necessarily. Possibly you installed Ubuntu on the flash drive, too.
[22:27] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch no
[22:27] <Jonii> plummerb: yeah, and I've been asking for some sort of an introduction texts on this channel for months. man intro and this linux bible 2010 have been the only hits I've gotten this far
[22:28] <bekks> Jonii: There are gigabytes of documentation for almost every distro I know of.
[22:28] <geoffmcc> Jonii: i am no way advanced, but when i first started i just browsed around the forums and in launchpad answers
[22:28] <plummerb> Jonii   I think O'Riley has a Linux in a Nutshell book out there...
[22:28] <Koolvin> Bekks, df -h shows the usb not mounted
[22:28] <bekks> Koolvin: Then it is not mounted.
[22:28] <Jonii> urlin2u: sure it is. But it's a pretty big leap to assume that just to use ubuntu, I'm going to read and grok in entirety the whole source code(how many millions of lines is that?) of Ubuntu and necessary programs
[22:28] <Koolvin> It does however show /dev/sda1 being the hdd
[22:29] <Koolvin> So I'd assume it's on the harddrive
[22:29] <Koolvin> Will reinstalling grub fix my problem?
[22:29] <nattier1> Hi. I have installed restricted drivers (ATI graphics drivers - FGLRX). Everything seems to work ok except boot splashscreen - it's now big and ugly (very low resolution). How to fix this?
[22:29] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, as I have written: second computer or may be second OS on your current computer
[22:29] <bekks> Koolvin: /dev/sda could be your usb disk too.
[22:29] <bekks> Koolvin: I assume you have it plugged in and booted into Ubuntu, right?
[22:29] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, u can test your system by booting from a live CD
[22:30] <Jonii> I mean, aren't there any... You know, general guidelines, "You can do this, there's this, oh, you definitely should read more about this, here's a link, and then you should try out this.."
[22:30] <Koolvin> The size of the disk is 500 gb, not the 8gb on the flash drive beasty_
[22:30] <Koolvin> Bekks*
[22:30] <bekks> Koolvin: Depending on your BIOS, the device order may vary.
[22:30] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, and with the live CD u test your audio/video stuff
[22:30] <urlin2u> Jonii, you have to be careful not to project meaning into a set of words, ubuntu is one on the most covered as it has a rather large user base.
[22:30] <Koolvin> Yes, but the harddrive shows 850mb used
[22:30] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch i dual boot with vista, it does it on both
[22:30] <Koolvin> It's cleanly formatted
[22:30] <Koolvin> It was
[22:30] <bekks> Koolvin: Then you have to fix your grub(2) install.
[22:30] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch it seems worse in vista
[22:30] <Koolvin> Which would mean reinstalling grub?
[22:31] <bekks> Koolvin: No, fixing it.
[22:31] <Jonii> urlin2u: yeah, that's what I thought. And that's precisely why I'm shocked by how there just doesn't seem to be that much documentation about anything. Like, some detached tips here and there, if you know what google keywords to look for
[22:31] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, so then the probability of an issue with the hardware of your audio is higher (in the comp)
[22:31] <Multbrelch> Zero, its a laptop?
[22:32] <bekks> Koolvin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:32] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos,  its a laptop?
[22:32] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch yup
[22:32] <frs9do> I downloaded MANDVD and its a diamond shape icon
[22:32] <frs9do> what do I do with it
[22:32] <slucidi> Hey all, does anyone here have any experience running more than two monitors via multiple similar nVidia GPUs?
[22:32] <frs9do> I wantto install this program badly
[22:33] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, then its not easy to open the laptop and test the audio card
[22:33] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch it sorta sounds like an improper ground..just like car audio which i know tons about, but little about home equiptment
[22:33] <urlin2u> Jonii, what you may not realize though is that there are 100's of linux distro and many more, but although they may seem different, fundamentally they are quite similar not sure it help to know that but the desktops are what makes them seem different the most I think.
[22:34] <Jonii> This lack of results is actually so surprising that I refuse to believe it. I think there are some good internet resources that tell you what's linux and what's it good for, but that I haven't found yet. Hence me asking about that every day or two
[22:34] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch ohh....i got an idea, i have an old external sb...:) ill hook it up and see
[22:34] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, open the laptop and check for loosen cable, bad connections ...
[22:34] <menciu> dds
[22:34] <menciu> czesc
[22:34] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, sb =
[22:34] <menciu> dscdasdfsa
[22:34] <menciu> adsfsffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:34] <plummerb> Jonii   Try this...  http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596154493.do
[22:34] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch its a real pain to open this crazy thing, i replaced the hd once it took an entire day messaging parts off this thing
[22:35] <ZeloZelos> Multbrelch sb is sound blaster
[22:35] <Multbrelch> k
[22:35] <dtigue> 1/quit
[22:35] <dtigue> blah
[22:35] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, try it
[22:35] <ZeloZelos> its from the 90's but ill give it a go. thanks for helping Multbrelch
[22:36] <Jonii> plummerb: tack
[22:36] <GTRsdk> Is it possible to have transmission go to a process that is invisible, but still working?
[22:36] <Multbrelch> ZeloZelos, ur welcome
[22:36] <Jonii> Or, thanks
[22:36] <plummerb> Jonii  Linux is an extremely complex operating system.  The "distributions" attempt to customize it for various users.  If you are fining that it just doesn't meet your needs you may need to look at Mac or Windows.
[22:37] <plummerb> Linux isn't for everyone.
[22:37] <frs9do> that is true
[22:37] <urlin2u> Jonii, what you may not know as well as far as what its for is that 70% of the fastest soper computers run Linux the large hadron collider runs linux about half the servers on the net google , facebook, government computers in many countries use linux, many time it is a backdrop to others working quietly in the background.
[22:37] <Multbrelch> plummerb, is Windows more easy to understand? ;-)
[22:37] <geoffmcc> Jonii: might i suggest google search on how to setup php apache and mysql in ubuntu and then do it, then get a blog going. this will a. get you started on a project and then b. give you a place to write up some tutorials or daily journal of your ubuntu experience
[22:37] <Jonii> Like, lemme share you my plight: I've been looking for information about Linux user system for a week now. I've been asking here, I've been reading several wiki articles about that, and asking on other irc channels. Only yesterday I was finally told what users _ARE_ in Linux. No one had that written down anywhere I could find
[22:37] <frs9do> windows is the easier OS
[22:38] <frs9do> no question about that
[22:38] <GTRsdk> Multbrelch: not when it says that you have registry issues :(
[22:38] <Multbrelch> GTRsdk, :-)
[22:38] <frs9do> But doesn't always mean better
[22:38] <bekks> frs9do: It is just more colourful.
[22:38] <jutnux> Jonii, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[22:38] <jutnux> ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin
[22:38] <frs9do> No its not, the way it handles packages is far more easier
[22:38] <frs9do> Like EXE files
[22:39] <jutnux> frs9do, Ubuntu uses .deb?
[22:39] <plummerb> Jonii  That's more of a "how do computers work" question.  Not a linux question.
[22:39] <geoffmcc> jutnux: thats the easy way, i was suggesting it to him as a learning experience
[22:39] <frs9do> we download something on linux and its a diamond shape thing
[22:39] <slucidi> Anyone have some experience with 11.10 + multi-gpu?
[22:39] <Jonii> It's like this for everything. I ask the same question over and over again, go over stuff that is in format of tips for achieving something when I seek to understand how it works, and I never do. Unless I get very lucky, as I got with that user thing, and I got someone knowledgeable to explain it to me in depth
[22:39] <Multbrelch> frs9do, I changed to Linux because I had NO CLUE about Windows at the end. Linux is so transparent ...
[22:39] <frs9do> I downloading MANDVD
[22:39] <jutnux> geoffmcc, try that, but if there if he is finding it too hard that'd be a quicker way!
[22:39] <frs9do> ANd its some diamond
[22:39] <frs9do> god knows what to do with it
[22:39] <frs9do> If it was windows, it would be an EXE
[22:39] <shaxs> Hello, Im trying to install http://www.skifta.com which gives a linux .bin file. Using http://www.ehow.com/how_4578189_install-bin-file-ubuntu-linux.html I was able to launch the Skifta installer. I put the install directory as /home/.skifta but it installed the software to its default which is /root/skifta. Now my question is, how do I launch the application? All that is in the /root/skifta/ directory is zoom.bootstrap
[22:39] <frs9do> ANd life would be easier
[22:40] <geoffmcc> jutnux: yea he not even trying to install apache or anything, i was suggesting that he does as a project for him.
[22:40] <Jonii> plummerb: as far as I can tell, it's very much a linux question because there are several ways you could handle a thing called "user" with a computer. I wanted to know how that concept was implemented in Linux
[22:40] <mcbaine> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Elements-Multimedia-Drive/dp/tech-data/B003WE8RW4/ref=de_a_smtd   anybody got  an ubuntu version of a media-box-pc ????
[22:40] <jutnux> geoffmcc, probably a better idea to be honest!
[22:40] <geoffmcc> Jonii: you are the user, plain and simple
[22:40] <jutnux> mcbaine, system76 do a media pc!
[22:41] <Jonii> geoffmcc: for linux, it's not me. It's the processes that I run, which are given rights to files based on my user ID, that form an interface between me and the kernel
[22:42] <plummerb> Jonii  Well, I recommend starting with that Linux in a nutshell book.  I believe it covers users, groups and how they are used in Linux.
[22:42] <plummerb> frs9do  Are you using KDE?
[22:42] <frs9do> jutnux: if it uses this deb, what do we do with the diamond shape icon? Does it open with deb?
[22:42] <Jonii> plummerb: ty, I'll check that out
[22:43] <frs9do> plummerb: kde?
[22:43] <frs9do> you mean the theme?
[22:43] <win-pez> hola
[22:43] <win-pez> a todos
[22:43] <plummerb> frs9do  Do you know what distrobution you are running?
[22:44] <plummerb> Ubuntu, Kunbuntu, Xubuntu?
[22:44] <frs9do> Ubuntu
[22:45] <plummerb> frs9do  And do you know where you downloaded that application from?
[22:45] <frs9do> sourceforge
[22:45] <frs9do> plummerb:
[22:45] <hdon_> hi ubuntu people :) what's your favorite graphics card for ubuntu that costs $100 or less? X is eating all the CPU on my sisters' machine with ubuntu now installed :|
[22:46] <frs9do> plummerb: http://sourceforge.net/search/?q=mandvd
[22:46] <bekks> hdon_: Something beginning with N and ending with vidia ;)
[22:46] <hdon_> bekks:
[22:46] <hilarie> hdon_ ATI!
[22:46] <hdon_> hilarie:
[22:46]  * hdon_ dies
[22:46] <hilarie> No really, you most likely can't go wrong, buy from a store with a deccent return policy
[22:46] <hilarie> Just in case
[22:47] <plummerb> frs9do  Did you go to ManDVD or mandvd2?
[22:47] <slucidi> hdon_ what does she need to do with it? just run x with compiz smoothly?
[22:47] <hdon_> slucidi: exactly
[22:47] <frs9do> plummerb: mandvd
[22:47] <frs9do> plummerb: the first one
[22:47] <hdon_> and mine bitcoin :P (just kidding)
[22:48] <slucidi> hdon_: easy and cheap, you can pick up a Galaxy gt520 for about 50$
[22:48] <bekks> hdon_: Another graohics card wont fix that problem as long as you dont change the driver or resolve the problem.
[22:48] <hdon_> slucidi: crap i forgot one other caveat
[22:48] <hdon_> and this fact... makes the $100 or less part easy
[22:48] <hdon_> in fact unavoidable
[22:48] <hdon_> it needs to be AGP
[22:48] <plummerb> frs9do  And did you go to the Files section from there?
[22:48] <slucidi> uhoh.
[22:48] <slucidi> you can have one from my basement
[22:48] <hdon_> lol
[22:48] <plummerb> lol
[22:49] <hdon_> well i just replaced their hard drive and their optical drive and their power supply
[22:49] <slucidi> let me see what I can dig up on the tubes.
[22:49] <hdon_> maybe i should go the last mile and give them a new mobo
[22:49] <frs9do> plummerb:
[22:49] <frs9do> Yes
[22:49] <win-pez> no entiendo
[22:49] <frs9do> DId you see the url plummerb
[22:50] <slucidi> hdon_: you could grab a geforce 6200 from newegg for under $50 that would do the trick
[22:50] <plummerb> frs9do  I may not have seen it.  What was it?
[22:50] <hdon_> slucidi: thanks! :)
[22:50] <slucidi> no problem =]
[22:50] <frs9do> one sec plummerb
[22:50] <inashdeen> having problem installing cairo-dock-plug-ins_2.4.0~2-0ubuntu1_i386 on ubuntu. any workaround?
[22:50] <lorenz> hi guys
[22:50] <frs9do> plummerb: http://sourceforge.net/search/?q=mandvd
[22:51] <lorenz> can anyone help me install alsa on ubuntu minimal?
[22:51] <plummerb> frs9do  Does that dimond icon you downloaded have a name or is it just an icon?
[22:51] <frs9do> It has a name plummerb
[22:52] <slucidi> hdon_: you've got a few options among specific manufacturers with little difference in price... try and get one with a little more ram.  you should be able to get 512 on one of those
[22:52] <frs9do> plummerb: it says MANDVD
[22:52] <plummerb> frs9do  What happens if you double click it?
[22:53] <frs9do> plummerb: absolutely nothing
[22:53] <xruud> lets try my luck; I'm having a pwd problem, the first try is never accepted, where to look?
[22:54] <plummerb> frs9do  Well, looks like the download may not have worked correctly then.  What browser are you using?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> xruud: By "pwd" do you mean password?
[22:54] <xruud> pwd=password
[22:54] <Jordan_U> xruud: Where are you entering the password? At the LightDM login screen?
[22:55] <frs9do> plummerb: firefox
[22:55] <xruud> Jordan_U: anywhere; login, terminal. Any time, every time
[22:56] <Jordan_U> xruud: So if you use "su myusername" from a terminal you get this problem?
[22:56] <xruud> Jordan_U: Google said it could be a keyring problem, but I made sure thois has the same pwd as my login
[22:57] <slucidi> doesn't sound like a keyring problem if its happening at login
[22:57] <rj175> Hello All, I am wondering if anyone knows of an application I could use which would allow me to have diffrent sets of workspaces depending on what im doing? At the moment I just have 12 workstations but it would be nice if I could just have a list for say "work" "Coding" etc that would change depending on what I was doing. Any ideas?
[22:57] <xruud> Jordan_UL Yes, su ruud -> I have to enter pwd twice. In fact; it is very fast the first time and the second takes two seconds to accept
[22:58] <frs9do> plummerb: ok I downloaded it again
[22:58] <xruud> slucidi: indeed, I was just following any lead I could find
[22:58] <frs9do> and it looks like it worked but it still only saus "OPEN FILES" when I double click it plummerb
[22:58] <frs9do> Some open files window shows u
[22:58] <frs9do> up
[22:58] <kharloss> hi there. i have a strange problem. 3 days ago i encountered a big problem. at 12 ( i`m GMT + 2) PM  my webserver stop responding / extremly slow conection using ssh. I see there is a large amount of data copied ( backup something maybe, or i don`t know) - i see this on hdd led, and harddisk sound like verry busy one.  i`m not a power user, i`m more a webdesigner.  somebody can help ? ( i
[22:58] <kharloss> mention, if i restart my webserver, everything it`s ok after) but restarting my server every night, ofcourse isn`t a solution. thanks in advance
[22:58] <slucidi> xruud: understood, and good on you. I'm just thinking out loud.  do you use a non-us keyboard layout, and has this been happening since you installed?
[22:59] <inashdeen> anyone here using cairo dock? i need help
[22:59] <bekks> kharloss: Is your server reachable from the internet?
[22:59] <plummerb> frs9do  Ok  So it looks like it is wanting you to select a media file to put on a dvd....   ?
[22:59] <Koolvin> How can I install ruby 1.9.2 rather than the lates
[22:59] <Koolvin> How can I install ruby 1.9.2 rather than the latest
[23:00] <xruud> slucidi: the keyboard layout is US. The problem occurred after removing another user AND changing my pwd. Not sure which one caused the problem
[23:00] <frs9do> plummerb: no no
[23:00] <frs9do> plummerb: are you familiar with ubuntu :)
[23:00] <kharloss> bekks : yes. actually after 50 minutes, everythuing it`s ok now ... but this happened maybe 2 weeks ago, every night
[23:00] <plummerb> frs9do  Yep
[23:01] <bekks> kharloss: Then cut the internet connection of the box and investigate further, using tools like "iotop", "htop" to see _whats_ going on, and then investigate _why_
[23:01] <psychx-> Anyone know some really cool/fun, but free, linux games?
[23:02] <frs9do> plummerb: the diamond shape looks like a source code maybe?
[23:03] <kharloss> bekks actually i guess it`s about  some maintenance cron`s, because every night at the same hour, at midnight the same S$#t happened
[23:03] <bekks> kharloss: You have to verify it :)
[23:03] <frs9do> http://images.google.com/imgres?q=linux+executable&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=839&tbm=isch&tbnid=UDIbXKngVuy1YM:&imgrefurl=http://fiji.sc/wiki/index.php/Install_Fiji_on_Linux&docid=2GVlm2aUtj1sVM&imgurl=http://fiji.sc/wiki/images/b/b0/Install_Fiji_on_Linux-FileManager.jpg&w=654&h=515&ei=HuTGTtHmHqXn0QHNnJQb&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=398&vpy=132&dur=429&hovh=199&hovw=253&tx=138&ty=125&sig=113148378128214029090&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=182&start=0&ndsp=21
[23:03] <frs9do> sorry all
[23:03] <frs9do> this one I mean
[23:03] <frs9do> http://fiji.sc/wiki/images/b/b0/Install_Fiji_on_Linux-FileManager.jpg
[23:03] <slucidi> xruud: is it the root account having this problem? your personal user? multiple accounts?
[23:03] <frs9do> plummerb: this is what it is
[23:03] <kharloss>  bekks, my big problem now is i have to wait until tomorow night, because everything looks fine
[23:05] <xruud> slucidi: My account is the first created, administrator. Does that make it root? There is only one account on the machine now
[23:05] <rashid> hi
[23:05] <rashid> hello
[23:05] <slucidi> xruud: for the purposes of my question, more or less.  have you tried changing your password?
[23:05] <xruud> slucidi: I'm kind of new on Linux, took me 13 years to finally leave it installed since trying it out several times ;)
[23:06] <Jordan_U> xruud: Can you pastebin the output from an attempt with su? The output should not contain your password.
[23:06] <bekks> xruud: No. The first account created (asked while installing ubuntu), only does have a membership in the admin group, which allow the usage of sudo.
[23:06] <plummerb> frs9do  Honestly, I've downloaded it and I can't get it to launch...
[23:06] <slucidi> xruud: no problem ;) on ubuntu, the actual root account is locked and your personal account takes root power via sudo, usually.
[23:06] <bekks> Using su will fail, since root has no password set, so you cannot login as root. You can use sudo instead.
[23:07] <Phoenix87> is anyone experiencing the kworker issue with 11.10?
[23:07] <bekks> Phoenix87: "the issue"?
[23:07] <xruud> slucidi: It occurred after chaniging my pwd. I changed it to something else for a short while and changed it back together with removing a temp user. Then the problem started
[23:07] <plummerb> frs9do  And the project doesn't appear to have been updated since 2006.  I would look for a newer tool.
[23:07] <Phoenix87> yeah kworker takes 100% CPU and wifi stops working
[23:07] <Koolvin> Hey, I keep doing sudo apt-get install rubygems1.9.1 and it says it's already installed, however gem -v produces 1.3.5...
[23:08] <frs9do> plummerb: that software is the only one that works for me
[23:08] <frs9do> my dvd player wont play dvd's burned with new software
[23:08] <frs9do> it keeps skipping
[23:08] <xruud> Jordan_U: howto pastebin? never done that
[23:08] <plummerb> frs9do  Try burning DVDs at a slower speed then.  That may be the difference...
[23:09] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | xruud
[23:09] <xruud> the output is empty anyway
[23:09] <slucidi> xruud:  I'd say pastebin the results of attemping to use your password like Jordan asked before we go any further
[23:09] <kanupatar> hello
[23:09] <frs9do> plummerb: I burned it at 2x speed
[23:09] <plummerb> frs9do  ManDVD may just be so old that it burns at a slower speed..
[23:09] <kanupatar> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 in my dell lattitude machine
[23:09] <kanupatar> everything was correct
[23:09] <xruud> !pastebin | ruud
[23:09] <csullivan> Koolvin, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1403278/how-to-update-ruby-on-linux-ubuntu
[23:09] <rashid> hi
[23:09] <kanupatar> and after installation, I facing some issues in wireless
[23:10] <kanupatar> the wireless properly autheticated
[23:10] <xruud> I do not get the pasting yet :P
[23:10] <kanupatar> and showing connected in the desktop
[23:10] <jukebox-zero> Koolvin, the 10.04 package ruby1.9.1 is ruby 1.9.2 but is so named due to a "library compatibility version" could be a similar convention. http://goo.gl/R62j
[23:10] <kanupatar> and when i take mozilla, the internet is not coming
[23:10] <Koolvin> Jukebox-zero, how do I fix that
[23:10] <Koolvin> I have no idea what I'm doing with ruby
[23:10] <Koolvin> Need it for an application
[23:10] <kanupatar> and when i checked the ifconfig, I am seeing the connection is at ETH1
[23:11] <jukebox-zero> Koolvin, I wouldn't know either. Just a quick google on your behalf.
[23:11] <xruud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/742751/
[23:11] <docmur> I have not been able to connect to MSN from a chat program for weeks now, if I can it's about a 12 second connection and it drops out, I've tried Piding and Empathy
[23:11] <kanupatar> Can Any one helpme on this?
[23:11] <docmur> anyone know whats wrong
[23:11] <docmur> did they change there gateway
[23:12] <kanupatar> hello
[23:12] <kanupatar> please have a look onto my problem please
[23:12] <xruud> Ah ok, I just paste the url then, I take it there is a faster way to use pastebin, but that command I'm not getting yet
[23:12] <kanupatar> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 in my dell lattitude machine
[23:13] <kanupatar> everything was correct
[23:13] <csullivan> kanupatar, dont repeat yourself
[23:13] <kanupatar> the wireless properly autheticated
[23:13] <plummerb> frs9do  Sounds like you need a new DVD drive then.  Shouldn't matter what you burn a DVD with.  If the DVD drive is too old it may not support the most up to date versions.
[23:13] <kanupatar> csullivan: sorry
[23:13] <kanupatar> and when i checked the ifconfig, I am seeing the connection is at ETH1
[23:13] <xruud> slucidi, Jordan_U: The output is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/742751/
[23:13] <frs9do> its not old really
[23:13] <csullivan> Try to not post a bunch of sgmented lines
[23:13] <kanupatar> and the connection is not coming
[23:13] <frs9do> its a 2 week old pc
[23:13] <kanupatar> okay
[23:13] <csullivan> kanupatar, do you get an IP in ifconfig?
[23:14] <kanupatar> yes
[23:14] <kanupatar> in eth1
[23:14] <slucidi> xruud: thanks.  if Jordan_U doesn't have another suggestion based on that, I'm going to suggest you try changing your password to something simple and seeing if the issue persists.
[23:14] <plummerb> frs9do  Like a Dell or a Gateway?
[23:14] <karlw> how does one troubleshoot a bad wireless connection to my router?
[23:14] <xruud> slucidi: I'd have to change the keyring pwd as well?
[23:14] <karlw> it all started with 11.10
[23:14] <frs9do> plummerb: its a custom PC
[23:15] <plummerb> frs9do  What is the maker of the DVD drive?
[23:15] <csullivan> kanupatar, did you use iwconfig?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> xruud: pwd for *NIX people will probably bring up Print Working Directory from the $PWD environment variable.
[23:15] <kanupatar> wait
[23:15] <frs9do> speedplus
[23:15] <frs9do> plummerb:
[23:16] <kanupatar> csullivan: yes
[23:16] <kanupatar> in eth1
[23:16] <slucidi> xruud: since it's happening with your login, if we just change that we should get some insight without changing your passwords elsewhere in the system.
[23:16] <kanupatar> it is showing all authetication details
[23:17] <xruud> Jordan_U: Unfortunately I have no idea what that means, I'm looking it up
[23:17] <csullivan> kanupatar, does ping google.com
[23:17] <csullivan> work?
[23:17] <plummerb> frs9do  Samsung?
[23:17] <john77> hello. am on ubuntu 11.04. how might i run silverlight to watch eurosport player videos?
[23:17] <slucidi> xruud: he means that if you type 'pwd' at a prompt, it tells you the directory you are in.
[23:17] <kanupatar> i tried , nslookup www.google.com
[23:17] <hilarie> or ping 8.8.8.8 !
[23:17] <kanupatar> failed
[23:17] <frs9do> plummerb: yes
[23:17] <hilarie> try pinging that IP (its google)
[23:18] <xruud> Jordan_U: Ow I see, well, over here it is short for password... I'll keep it in mind, though!
[23:18] <kanupatar> tried
[23:18] <kanupatar> not working
[23:18] <hilarie> ping 127.0.0.1?
[23:18] <MeQuerSat> john77, you can install moonlight available here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[23:18] <csullivan> What version of ubuntu?
[23:18] <kanupatar> csullivan: not working the ping
[23:19] <kanupatar> csullivan: means the machine is failing to get the internet through eth1
[23:19] <csullivan> kanupatar, What version of ubuntu?
[23:19] <kanupatar> oneric ocelot
[23:19] <laxatives> I just found super + n inverts colors and I like it more than without, is there a way for me to set everything to open inverted by default?
[23:19] <xruud> slucidi: can I change password from the terminal? Settings will not allow me to unlock user accounts to change them. (Might be part of the problem?)
[23:20] <slucidi> xruud: it doesn't bring up a dialog when you hit unlock, or is it just greyed out?
[23:20] <plummerb> frs9do  Is that a DVD rom or DVD writer?
[23:20] <kanupatar> csullivan: 11.10
[23:20] <frs9do> Dvd writer plummerb
[23:20] <csullivan> What did you do try and set it up?
[23:20] <xruud> slucidi: The unlock button is greyed out. I cannot click it
[23:21] <plummerb> frs9do  Do you know what the modle number is?
[23:21] <frs9do> plummerb: http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/monitor-peripherals-printer/optical-disc-drive/dvd-rw-drive/SH-S223L/BEBE/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail
[23:22] <slucidi> xruud: to change your password from the terminal, just type 'passwd'. it will ask for your current password, then let you set a new password
[23:22] <frs9do> plummerb: its this one
[23:22] <hopstafarian> hi all, wondering how to unzip all the archives in a directory in order to recombine them into a single zip archive, the only problem, is that all the archive contain a single file with the same file name (transaction.qdx)..any way to get them to not overwrite each other?
[23:22] <g11tch> sg nickserv identify ectorrendu13
[23:23] <csullivan> g11tch, nice
[23:23] <g11tch> yeppers...going to change it now...
[23:23] <xruud> slucidi: I guess I have to restart the machine. brb.
[23:23] <g11tch> lol
[23:23] <csullivan> g11tch, tell me you don't use that pass elsewhere?
[23:23] <slucidi> xruud: you shouldn't have to reboot for that
[23:23] <rashid> i just came here today
[23:23] <g11tch> nah
[23:23] <csullivan> good
[23:23] <csullivan> :P
[23:23] <slucidi> oh dear.
[23:23] <rashid> hello?
[23:24] <rashid> hheeelllooo
[23:24] <csullivan> I've done that twice in a row before.
[23:24] <slucidi> rashid: what?
[23:24] <rashid> slucidi: not really anything but really the newest linux,i don't like it
[23:25] <geoffmcc> !topic |rashid
[23:25] <plummerb> frs9do   That's a pretty old drive.
[23:25] <plummerb> in the computer world.
[23:25] <rashid> bye!
[23:25] <plummerb> frs9do  How long have you had it?
[23:26] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a way to clear my DNS cache ?
[23:26] <Guest85650> slucidi: Sorry to say it did not work :(
[23:26] <Guest85650> hmm, why am I a guest now
[23:26] <frs9do> plummerb: it came with the PC
[23:26] <slucidi> Guest85650: you can get your name back with /nick xruud
[23:27] <xruud> slucidi: I found it :P
[23:27] <plummerb> frs9do  Looks like that drive is about 2 years old...
[23:28] <slucidi> xruud: so still having that issue, eh? alright.  you can still run commands that need root privileges successfully via sudo, yes?
[23:28] <geoffmcc> FunnyLookinHat: i believe /etc/init.d/named restart will flush it
[23:28] <gregu1> Hi. How can I _disable_ unity3d? (I only want to give user unity2d)
[23:28] <FunnyLookinHat> geoffmcc, cool thanks
[23:28] <xruud> slucidi: correct
[23:28] <frs9do> plummerb: thats old? :D
[23:28] <gregu1> they can't pick up unity3d. only unity2d.
[23:28] <FunnyLookinHat> geoffmcc, Ah - no named   :D
[23:28] <bluu_> http://i.imgur.com/hL1vH.png i removed unity and that's how my gnome looks like. how can i readjust those items?
[23:28] <bekks> gregu1: FunnyLookinHat: named isnt part of a standard installation .
[23:28] <FunnyLookinHat> bekks, Yeah
[23:28] <FunnyLookinHat> dns-clear is supposed to do it I believe
[23:29] <FunnyLookinHat> i.e. /etc/init.d/dns-clear start
[23:29] <john77> MeQuerSat: the go-mono website tells me it 'cannot install moonlight because it is not compatible with firefox 7.0.1'. Any other suggestions?
[23:29] <plummerb> frs9do  If it doesn't support DVD formats that have come out in the last year then yes.
[23:29] <xruud> slucidi: Is the security part something I can remove and re-install, or is that part of the system itself?
[23:29] <bytesaber_work> ok ubunti folk.    I use google+.  I use pidgin.   My google+ profile picture is normally seen with whatever googletalk app i use.     I reinstalled ubuntu on mydesk at work.   Durring itstall, it asked to take a picture of me.  So i did it.   Why is it now my googletalk picture profile???
[23:29] <gregu1> how can I remove "Unity" option from choose of login screen and set it ONLY to Unity 2D?
[23:29] <frs9do> plummerb: what other program can I use to convert AVI to DVD and burn
[23:30] <frs9do> plummerb: do you know of any?
[23:30] <bekks> bytesaber_work: Because thats the way pidgin handles that photo.
[23:30] <shaxs> Im trying to install emitapp.com to stream content from my linux box to my android device. In it it says "- Erlang in default apt repository is ancient. Run "sh erlang.sh" and it will
[23:30] <shaxs> install it manually or find a repository with an up to date erlang version. " However I cannot seem to get this to work
[23:30] <slucidi> xruud: hehe you can't really tear the user system out and put it back in as far as I know ;) how did you remove that other user?
[23:30] <plummerb> frs9do  More importantly what drive did you use to burn the DVDs that are skipping?  The same dirve?
[23:30] <bytesaber_work> bekks, i don't have any picture setup in pidgin
[23:30] <frs9do> plummerb: yes
[23:31] <bytesaber_work> bekks, where is the source of this new picture?
[23:31] <bekks> bytesaber_work: You just said you did?
[23:31] <frs9do> I could try another software plummerb
[23:31] <frs9do> plummerb: but do you know of anmy
[23:31] <slucidi> gregul: don't repeat yourself, we heard you the first 2 times ;) there are a lot of busy people in here, someone might be able to help you soon
[23:31] <bytesaber_work> bekks, people see the picture.  i don't see it anywhere in my pidgin
[23:31] <xruud> slucidi: pressing minus in the gui; the only way I saw available when editing user accounts
[23:31] <bekks> bytesaber_work: But it was pidgin that asked for that picture?
[23:31] <pulchras> hi all
[23:31] <bytesaber_work> bekks, .   no.   the installation of ubuntu did.
[23:32] <Zopiac> /usr/share: Size of files: 3.5gb    Size on disk: 30.8....wut?
[23:32] <shaxs> anyone know how I am supposed to "Run "sh erlang.sh" I cannot get that to work
[23:32] <xruud> slucidi: I got one question; keep files -> no
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> i just thought it'd be some user profile picture / icon for logging in.
[23:32] <plummerb> frs9do  Well I would look in the Ubuntu Software Center for Multimedia applications for making DVDs
[23:32] <Zopiac> how is /usr/share 30.8gb on disk?
[23:32] <bekks> bytesaber_work: The installation of ubuntu doesnt ask for a picture.
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> bekks, yes it does.
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> 10.04
[23:32] <bekks> 10.04 doesnt. 1000%.
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> bekks, it detected my webcam
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> does
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> did
[23:32] <bytesaber_work> has done.
[23:32] <FloodBot1> bytesaber_work: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <slucidi> xruud: okay, nothing odd there.  I take it you also changed your password in the UI by selecting unlock and then proceeding from there?
[23:33] <frs9do> I have Devede
[23:33] <frs9do> But I dont see any option to convert AVI to MPEG
[23:33] <plummerb> frs9do  I have used FFMPEG many times.  You might try WinFF....
[23:33] <xruud> slucidi: yep, back then I still could ;)
[23:33] <shaxs> nm figured it out
[23:33] <slucidi> xruud: gotcha. I think I've found something relevant to your issue, gimme a sec to parse it
[23:34] <teye> hola
[23:34] <pulchras> I've got a dumb question about apt-get
[23:34] <csullivan> pulchras, shoot
[23:34] <reflexrg> wants to create md5sums from terminal with today's date set automatically like this without quotes "11-18-11.md5"
[23:34] <reflexrg> is this possible?
[23:35] <csullivan> bash
[23:35] <reflexrg> yeah I know
[23:35] <xruud> slucidi: great! I love to figure out what the problem is.
[23:35] <reflexrg> shell script I want to make
[23:35] <reflexrg> but I forget how to do that date thing like that
[23:35] <l1t> I'm just trying to set a  script to start on startup on the default run levels:
[23:36] <l1t> update-rc.d -f convstarter.sh deafults
[23:36] <xruud> slucidi: and i already tried 10 google pages results or such
[23:36] <l1t> I get this error: update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/convstarter.sh missing LSB  information
[23:36] <plummerb> frs9do  Looks like DeVeDe will convert AVI to DVD....
[23:37] <psychx-> Anyone know any awesome adventure games or anything for ubuntu/linux?
[23:37] <frs9do> really?
[23:37] <Zopiac> How does linux deal with icons? I know it's in /usr/share, but the whole thing is really confusing
[23:37] <frs9do> plummerb: I dont see the option for that
[23:37] <plummerb> frs9do  What version do you have?
[23:37] <subman> What is KMS support?
[23:37] <slucidi> xruud: can you open up a gnome-terminal for me and run 'sudo polkit-gnome-authorization' ?
[23:38] <frs9do> plummerb: 3.16.9
[23:38] <pulchras> csullivan when running "apt-get update" commnand,  I get a 3 lines on the prompt with "err" and  "404 not found" messages.... I've seen this is general, so that won't be important I guess, but I'd like to ask what does it mean
[23:38] <plummerb> frs9do  Latest is 3.17  but it looks like previous versions supported AVI...
[23:38] <xruud> slucidi: is a gnome-terminal different from CTRL+ALT+T?
[23:39] <frs9do> plummerb: ok
[23:39] <slucidi> xruud: not if you are running gnome ;)
[23:39] <csullivan> pulchras, it didn't find a file on the server
[23:39] <csullivan> Does the command not work at all?
[23:39] <xruud> slucidi: Unity I'm afraid
[23:39] <csullivan> Or do you get *somewhere*
[23:39] <slucidi> xruud: it's still the same one, hehe.  Unity is based on Gnome. and secretly, the exact terminal doesn't matter. I was just trying to be as clear as possible ;)
[23:39] <plummerb> frs9do  When you select a file to add to the DVD does it let you select any file?
[23:39] <trihedron> good evening
[23:40] <frs9do> plummerb: yes
[23:40] <xruud> slucidi: sudo: polkit-gnome-authorization: command not found
[23:40] <plummerb> frs9do  Well, try selecting an AVI....
[23:41] <slucidi> xruud: one sec, I seem to have lead you astray
[23:41] <pulchras> the command works, but I've just tried to add som ppa's via the "add-apt-repository" command and I got some errors, so I just wanted to fix it.... I could, but there where still theses errors, so I just wanted to know
[23:42] <xruud> slucidi: But I think I am seeing a direction here. Something with policies?
[23:42] <pulchras> it's strange because it prompts for example this "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main i386 Packages
[23:42] <pulchras>   404  Not Found
[23:42] <pulchras> " so I guess that it may be something important xD
[23:43] <pulchras> like system updates or something like that
[23:43] <noobius> whenever i update the driver for my nvidia 8800m gts and reboot 11.10 freezes. a lot of people are having the same problem
[23:43] <slucidi> xruud: something along those lines.  have you had any issues trying to mount usb drives or anything of the sort?
[23:44] <xruud> no, they are mounted automatically when inserted. Also the mount command works as it should. I did have to change fstab to include a drive that I sabotaged from being mounted (I lend out the laptop to a friend)
[23:45] <cypr1nus> hi, is there any way to change colours in Ubuntu theme? ( I really hate violet/orange theme)
[23:46] <sardonyx> how do feed a text document full of folder names into du?  i've tried cat names.txt | du -sh and it doesnt work...
[23:48] <kisuke> anyone know how to forcemount a borked NTFS parition?
[23:48] <slucidi> xruud: and when you select the shutdown option from inside your user account, it shuts down correctly, it doesn't take you to the login screen, right?
[23:49] <slucidi> xruud: for the record, I'm running low on ideas as to what is up here.
[23:49] <xruud> slucidi: no, it does not shutdown, but log me out. Which is another problem Im having
[23:49] <slucidi> xruud: oh, that's a big lead.
[23:50] <xruud> slucidi: the only way to shutdown other then 4seccing the pwr button is to sudo shutdown -h now
[23:50] <slucidi> xruud: there's an issue with LightDM (the default login manager for ubuntu 11.10) that that symptom and the others you are having are related to
[23:51] <xruud> slucidi: Is canonical working on that, or promised to release a fix soon?
[23:51] <floyd_> how do you find how much memory is in your comp in ubuntu
[23:52] <floyd_> how do you find how much memory is in your comp in ubuntu
[23:52] <geoffmcc> system info
[23:53] <slucidi> xruud: yup, it's a known issue.  in the mean time I've got a few leads based on that.  in a terminal, please run 'sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf'
[23:53] <xruud> slucidi: done
[23:54] <xruud> slucidi: need to see what's in?
[23:54] <floyd_> well it says 2.9 but i know i got 4.0 in there
[23:54] <slucidi> So while I'm in here, has anyone had any issues with Xorg 1.10.1 segfaulting from a fresh install of 11.04 with multiple nvidia gpus installed? Tried asking about this in #xorg and #nvidia but they're populated with the living dead
[23:54] <xruud> ubotto: how to use pastebin?
[23:55] <slucidi> xruud: do you see a line along the lines of 'autologin-user=ruud' in there?
[23:55] <xruud> slucidi: yes, it is the bottom line out of 4
[23:56] <slucidi> :xruud edit that line so that it looks like '#autologin-user=ruud'
[23:56] <floyd_> any1 no y it say i only have 2.9 memory when i know i got 4.0
[23:56] <xruud> slucidi: commenting it out...
[23:56] <slucidi> :xruud then try logging out and back in
[23:56] <xruud> brb
[23:57] <trism> sardonyx: du only seems to accept nul terminated arguments from stdin, but this seems to work: cat files.txt | tr '\n' '\0' | du --files0-from=-;
[23:58] <sardonyx> someone else suggested cat names.txt | xargs du -sh  that seems to work
[23:58] <sardonyx> thanks for looking into it trism
[23:59] <slucidi> xruud: any luck there?
[23:59] <xruud> slucidi: nope, I completely restarted
[23:59] <slucidi> xruud: damn.  are you at least able to go to the user settings panel and unlock your user?
[23:59] <kisuke> anyone know how to forcemount a borked NTFS parition?