[00:07] <zacarias> Can you update xfce4 (to the latest version) from 10.10?
[00:10] <GridCube> dunno
[00:10] <GridCube> dont think so
[00:13] <csenger41> hello everyone :)
[00:13] <csenger41> could you help me why Empathy does not want to log in to MSN?
[00:15] <Artemis3> msn issue, in the meantime try amsn or pidgin
[00:16] <GridCube> or emesene
[00:16] <GridCube> the best of all
[00:16] <GridCube> :P
[00:22] <csenger41> im using gtalk and aim too and dont like pidgin, im missing bubble chat theme
[00:25] <jmcantrell> what's wrong with pidgin?
[00:35] <csenger41> its chat theme is so outdated
[00:36] <GridCube> also its pretty ugly
[00:36] <Unit193> You can change that :P
[00:36] <GridCube> and you can't disable notifications
[00:36] <csenger41> Unit193: i couldnt find adium themes for it
[00:38] <Artemis3> GridCube, notifications can be disabled and there is a plugin for libnotify
[00:38] <csenger41> well sorry guys i g2g now
[00:38] <csenger41> see ya later, bye :)
[00:38] <GridCube> Artemis3, how do you disable them?
[00:39] <Artemis3> see the preferences
[00:39] <GridCube> theres nothing there
[00:39] <GridCube> but i disabled the plugn libnotify
[00:41] <Artemis3> mine are disabled
[00:41] <Artemis3> its there somewhere
[00:42] <Unit193> Tools > Plugins > Libnotify popups
[00:43] <Artemis3> with the plugin enabled perhaps?
[00:43] <Artemis3> and change the config
 my desktop and application panel doesn't work. When i try run it in terminal i get Segmentation fault. (sorry for my english). Help me plz.
[01:18] <zus> can some one  please help me resolve these errors? http://pastebin.com/AHdwq6gA
[01:19] <spanther> zus, you need to import the correct keyring :)
[01:20] <zus> ive already redid the  kxstudio key ring, and still get the same errors.
[01:21] <spanther> so there are two solutions then. 1) the repository isn't reachable. 2) the keyring given is wrong :)
[01:21] <spanther> nothing you can change hehe
[01:21] <spanther> but you can contact the repository maintainer :)
[01:26] <zus> i have, at least the  lead dev before  comming in here.
[01:26] <zus> we redid the  ppa/key ring.
[01:28] <Artemis3> hmm this sounds like a topic for #ubuntu-devel
[01:28] <spanther> well at least it is very specific. nothing i could help with heh :)
[01:29] <Artemis3> ah never mind that doesnt include app devel
[01:30] <w30> Does xubuntu have a graphical find, search  utility?
[01:31] <zus> w30 would catfish help?
[01:31] <zus> menu>accessories>catfish
[01:31] <w30> zus, I donno, let me check..
[01:32] <zus> also application finder has worked for me with apps, it was in my  hidden bottom bar.
[01:36] <w30> zus app finder works well for apps in my experience
[01:37] <w30> zus I was interested in a grep for words or phrases in a file
[01:38] <w30> zus like finding all files with my name in them for example
[01:39] <kharnov> Hi. For some reason, my Xubuntu 11.10 install doesn't seem to remember my saved settings. For example, it keeps asking me what my default browser is, even though I've clearly set it to Google Chrome a dozen times.
[01:41] <zus> oh, there i dont know, of an app. and as i learn more about linux and use it more and more daily  i think i'd  prefer a command line for such
[01:51] <w30> zus, this is for a Windows defector that doesn't see a need to quote "do all that typing".
[01:52] <w30> zus "oh Wellll......"
[01:52] <GridCube> khaard, close a session without saving it, and then close a session saving it
[01:56] <zus> w30,  ahh. :)
[01:58] <kharnov> GridCube: thanks!
[02:17] <phunyguy> OK maybe I'm  just not doing something right, but I can't find a good gray-dark theme that actually changes the internal contents of a window.
[02:18] <phunyguy> stuff still stays light/white except the xfce-dusk theme
[02:18] <phunyguy> what am I doing wrong?
[02:19] <well_laid_lawn> find a dark gtk theme
[02:19] <phunyguy> I actually really like the current theme, just not the window colors
[02:20] <phunyguy> well_laid_lawn, if I do that, how do I select it without changing to the rest of the theme?
[02:20] <spanther> why? they are shiny silver nice! :)
[02:20] <phunyguy> I just want the inside of the windows to change
[02:20] <phunyguy> ack!
[02:20] <phunyguy> lol
[02:20] <spanther> i love this silver look :P
[02:20] <phunyguy> spanther go away ;)
[02:21] <spanther> aww :(
[02:21] <well_laid_lawn> you might have to edit one  yourself
[02:21] <phunyguy> as do i, just not with dark everything else.
[02:21] <GridCube> phunyguy, did you talk to ochosi ?
[02:22] <phunyguy> no, was I supposed to? lol
[02:22] <phunyguy> wait, what?
[02:23] <GridCube> phunyguy, ochosi is the master of costumizing xubuntu
[02:23] <knome> he's asleep already
[02:23] <GridCube> if he doesnt know how to help you no one can
[02:24] <spanther> phunyguy, what's about this one? http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Simply+Choice+1.0?content=142017
[02:26] <spanther> there you can find many themes for xfce :)
[02:40] <phunyguy> I've been on that site all day
[02:41] <phunyguy> and spanther, the insides are still gray
[02:42] <spanther> hmm :/
[02:43] <spanther> i'm sorry then
[02:49] <spanther> welcome back again grind xD
[02:56] <spanther> I do have an ALC662 Chipset Realtek HD-Audio with 5.1 feature. I have plugged in a 5.1 surround system over 3.5" to cinch cables.
[02:56] <spanther> how to setup my sound? :)
[02:59] <phunyguy> you know I just realized something.   My browsing has been working fantastic.  Maybe it took my ISP having a core router go down to fix it?
[03:01] <phunyguy> hmm that is a good question, spanther.  Not as easy as it is in Kubuntu / Ubuntu
[03:01] <spanther> hrhr *g*
[03:01] <phunyguy> wait, are you serious or not?
[03:01] <spanther> yep :)
[03:01] <spanther> i do have an Edifier S550 Soundsystem ;)
[03:01] <phunyguy> ok.  Well it seems to use Pulse Audio
[03:02] <spanther> look for it yourself :P
[03:02] <phunyguy> dont care to ;)
[03:03] <phunyguy> does Xubuntu have the same sound config capability as Ubuntu?
[03:03] <spanther> well inside sound settings i can enable elements for "HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer)" Main, Surround, Center, LFE :/
[03:03] <spanther> but how to check their function?
[03:03] <phunyguy> as in test speakers?
[03:03] <spanther> yes
[03:03] <phunyguy> play a movie with surround sound
[03:03] <phunyguy> lol
[03:03] <spanther> in windows you have this realtek software where you click a speaker and then you hear if it is the right one :)
[03:04] <phunyguy> yeah Ubuntu has that
[03:04] <knome> speaker-test ?
[03:04] <phunyguy> wish I knew the name of the app
[03:04] <spanther> hmmm :/
[03:05] <spanther> oh and inside the windows realtek menu i can check sound upmix (fill channels) to use stereo upmixed as surround
[03:06] <well_laid_lawn> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/06/how-to-test-speaker-channels-of-your.html
[03:06] <knome> well_laid_lawn, isn't that what i just said (speaker-test) :)
[03:07] <well_laid_lawn> yep and it gives the command for the surround sound test
[03:07] <phunyguy> well I remember in alsa, there are "profiles" which essentially do just that, spanther
[03:07] <spanther> okay i'll install speaker-test
[03:07] <knome> that will be different depending on the number of speakers you have
[03:07] <phunyguy> but I haven't messed with that stuff in forever.  I have a digital receiver which handles all that for me
[03:08] <phunyguy> via TOSLink
[03:08] <phunyguy> or whatever it's called
[03:08] <phunyguy> Optical.
[03:08] <spanther> toslink :)
[03:08] <spanther> i do use analog connections with 3.5" to cinch
[03:08] <phunyguy> yeah i got that
[03:08] <phunyguy> hopefully someone can help ya
[03:08] <phunyguy> i wont be much help
[03:09] <spanther> all 3 outputs from my soundcard. problem is, still on windows, i had to configure first, which output is what, so that the soundsystem worked right. so i think it could give problems here :(
[03:09] <spanther> if there is no way to switch the output (which output is LFE and so on)
[03:09] <phunyguy> you would be surprised.
[03:10] <spanther> speaker test says "error, ressource is used" lol
[03:11] <phunyguy> fail :)
[03:11] <spanther> i think it could be the pulseaudio sound daemon using this ressource :>
[03:12] <spanther> but a direct hardware test (which speaker-test does use) doesn't help me, if later pulseaudio still handles it wrong :)
[03:12] <spanther> so this speaker-test is no way :(
[03:15] <spanther> linux really needs a professional sound setup GUI tool for pulseaudio x.x
[03:15] <phunyguy> spanther: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Using_PulseAudio
[03:16] <phunyguy> lots of good info there
[03:16] <spanther> thank you! :)
[03:17] <spanther> oh, i found an information here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525 stating: gedit ~/.pulse/daemon.conf   line:  default-sample-channels = 2  to change into 6 :)
[03:17] <spanther> and restart
[03:19] <phunyguy> spanther: pavucontrolis the package you want
[03:19] <phunyguy> err
[03:19] <phunyguy> spanther: pavucontrol is the package you want
[03:19] <spanther> yay! :D
[03:19] <spanther> yes internal audio has a 5.1 profile
[03:20] <phunyguy> haha nice
[03:20] <phunyguy> upmixed click sounds and other crap
[03:20] <phunyguy> =D
[03:21] <spanther> lol
[03:21] <spanther> well i build a new starter for the bottom panel with pavucontrol
[03:21] <phunyguy> yeah it's my GTK theme that is all upset
[03:21] <phunyguy> is there a way to JUST change gtk theme in XFCE?
[03:23] <spanther> I wonder why pavucontrol wasn't shipped out of the box :)
[03:24] <spanther> with "gnome-audio" as icon to display it looks nice
[03:25] <spanther> do i have to reboot?
[03:26] <phunyguy> i wouldnt think so.  It is controlling the existing pulse-audio
[03:26] <phunyguy> which is QUITE dynamic
[03:28] <w30> agemoi102
[03:28] <spanther> phunyguy, oh, maybe you can use it one day. http://www.halfgaar.net/surround-sound-in-linux
[03:28] <spanther> many tweaks i found now for upmix and so on :)
[03:28] <phunyguy> k
[03:29] <spanther> he offers a check file! :D
[03:29] <spanther> point 6 testing ^^
[03:30] <phunyguy> with that being said, I am going to sleep.
[03:30] <spanther> n8 :)
[06:52] <MVanDruff> hello
[06:53] <MVanDruff> is there a way to expand my xubuntu partition
[07:41] <kirua> whats the difference between xubuntu and xfce ?
[07:42] <Sysi> xubuntu uses xfce, xfce can be used on other distributions too
[07:43] <kirua> no cause i can choose between xubuntu and xfce at the start
[07:50] <kirua> i wonder what are the differences
[07:51] <Sysi> xubuntu-session loads xubuntu default settings if you select it on first login, xfce-session loads upstream defaults
[07:51] <Sysi> after first login your own settings override those
[13:32] <daniel> Hello! I just switched to xubuntu & I have a 2nd-monitor setup issue.
[13:32] <daniel> I get an error when opening the display settings "Unable to query the version of the RandR extension being used"
[13:32] <daniel> Can anyone help?
[13:36] <TheSheep> daniel: are you using some 3rd party graphics drivers?
[13:41] <daniel> Not as far as I know
[13:44] <kritztopf> hello there, i am running into problems with the alternate installation cd
[13:45] <kritztopf> seems like the installer can't find libsasl2-modules required by some packages
[13:45] <kritztopf> and the bugfix announced on launchpad is nowhere to be found on the internet
[14:55] <orgthingy> hello, I just switched from ubuntu to xubuntu..how can I enlarge the font size in the panel and so on?
[14:55] <orgthingy> seems too small
[14:57] <orgthingy> actually nevermind, problem solved
[15:05] <baizon> nice :)
[15:08] <orgthingy> baizon: any idea on how to make the 2 panels look like classic GNOME panels?
[15:08] <orgthingy> like, the application-windows on the bottom and so on
[15:08] <baizon> orgthingy: yes
[15:08] <orgthingy> instead of having a list of app-bubbles on the bottom
[15:08] <baizon> right click
[15:08] <baizon> panel preferences
[15:09] <baizon> and then just cahnge it
[15:09] <orgthingy> baizon: been there, I guess I have to look arund
[15:09] <orgthingy> 'til I get everything right
[15:10] <baizon> yep
[15:10] <baizon> just need to take a look around the system
[15:10] <baizon> then you will get it :)
[15:11] <orgthingy> the last time I used XFCE was maybe 2 years ago, or 3
[15:11] <orgthingy> baizon: things improved greatly
[15:11] <orgthingy> loads are switching to xubuntu since ubuntu's "unity" is just horrible
[15:12] <baizon> i know :D
[15:12] <baizon> i switchd 2 years ago
[15:12] <baizon> xfce 4.8 has many improvements
[15:15] <orgthingy> baizon: it's lovely
[15:15] <orgthingy> I greatly thank the XFCE community for such an improvement
[15:15] <orgthingy> well done
[15:55] <jmcantrell> is it possible that 4.10 might be in a ppa whenever it gets released?
[15:57] <baizon> yes it will be in a ppa for sure
[16:00] <jmcantrell> do you think it would be safe-ish to install on oneiric?
[16:00] <jmcantrell> i'm really looking forward to this thunar desktop integration thing
[16:01] <baizon> i dont know :)
[16:01] <baizon> but i wont install it from a ppa
[16:01] <baizon> i will wait until 12.10
[16:02] <jmcantrell> bah :)
[16:06] <jmcantrell> i am so in love with XFCE right now. i feel like i'm back to what attracted me to linux in the first place :)
[16:08] <baizon> :)
[17:40] <ironfoot> Hi, just installed 11.10 xubuntu. Really nice accept i can't browse pc's on the network through the file manager
[17:40] <ironfoot> ?
[17:42] <madnick> !gigolo
[17:42] <TheSheep> !info gigolo
[17:42] <madnick> sorry wrong name
[17:42] <madnick> oh
[17:42] <ironfoot> ta
[18:39] <stephane56> bonjour
[18:39] <stephane56> j'ai installé xubuntu11.10
[18:40] <stephane56> j'ai un souci a l'affichage il me met coupure 92.7 khz 58hz
[18:40] <TheSheep> !fr
[18:40] <TheSheep> stephane56: sorry, we don't speak French :(
[18:41] <stephane56> dommage je parle pas en anglais
[19:05] <eNepper> Hi how do I enable numlock at login?
[19:08] <baizon> eNepper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[19:15] <plasticdoc> @ baizon & eNepper: Obviously that won't work
[19:15] <baizon> plasticdoc: ?
[19:15] <plasticdoc> 1st install:    sudo apt-get install numlockx
[19:16] <plasticdoc> 2nd:         printf "\ntest -x /usr/bin/numlockx && /usr/bin/numlockx on\n" >> "$HOME/.profile";grep ^ "$HOME/.profile"
[19:16] <plasticdoc> All the other usual tweaks won't work in the latest Xubuntu (11.10)
[19:17] <baizon> ok
[19:17] <plasticdoc> won't work:         sudo sed -i '$ a\greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:17] <plasticdoc> won't work:          printf "[Desktop Entry]\nVersion=1.0\nType=Application\nName=numlockx\nExec=/usr/bin/numlockx\nStartupNotify=false\nTerminal=false\nHidden=false\n" > "$HOME/.config/autostart/numlockx.desktop"
[19:18] <plasticdoc> won't work:        (cd ~/.config/autostart;ln -s $(which numlockx))
[19:19] <plasticdoc> There seems to be "something wrong with the 'xubuntu-default-settings' package
[19:19] <plasticdoc> and/or in the way the scripts in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/ are processed
[19:19] <plasticdoc> during or after lightdm."
[19:19] <knome> !pastebin
[19:19] <knome> plasticdoc, please
[19:20] <puff> It appears that xubuntu-desktop or xfce maps alt-insert to add virtual desktops to my workspace... It's interfering with another alt-insert mapping in the IDE I'm using. How do I disable this?
[19:36] <TNorris> compiz has a nice shortcuts to use the numpad to position windows on the screen in a grid. does xfwm4 support the same sort of shortcuts?
[23:02] <arnaud_d> Hi ! May I ask you something about lunching scripts with Xubuntu ?
[23:02] <knome> !ask
[23:04] <arnaud_d> Ok Thanks. I have been under xubuntu for 2 weeks now and I miss the windows that pops under Ubuntu when you double-click on a script file. I'm talking about the window that offers you the choice to run the program in a terminal. Is there a way to make this window appear under xubuntu ?
[23:05] <knome> unfortunately, i don't think so
[23:08] <arnaud_d> Thank you knome for your answer. This is probably a gnome-dependant stuff. Anyway, how do you run scripts that need terminal ? Do you open a temrinal fisrt (right click > Open terminal here) and then $./YourProg.sh ?
[23:08] <knome> yes, that is the easiest way
[23:12] <arnaud_d> Ok fine. I would like to take the opportunity to say thank you to the guys who work on xubuntu. It's a great distrib. I was bored with Unity so I changed and this freedom is priceless. Thank you and see you soon.
[23:12] <knome> no problem, and enjoy xubuntu