[09:20] <danimo> debfx: sorry, back now
[09:40] <debfx> danimo: hi
[09:40] <danimo> debfx: interested in upgrading the qtcreator 2.4 packages to RC?
[09:41] <danimo> debfx: I saw you had beta packages already
[09:41] <danimo> debfx: wanted to ask you before starting to mess with them
[09:41] <debfx> danimo: I already have
[09:41] <danimo> debfx: I'd even be interested in creating a nightly snapshot PPA, or is there something like this already
[09:41] <danimo> debfx: oh, cool
[09:42] <danimo> debfx: but only for 11.10 I guess?
[09:42] <debfx> yep, I'll backport it once the final is released
[09:42] <debfx> eh no, only for 12.04
[09:42] <danimo> debfx: ah, ok
[09:43] <danimo> debfx: final may still take a few days
[09:43] <danimo> debfx: the idea is to get native packages in place as often as possible
[09:43] <danimo> debfx: the binary installer has some downsides, i.e. we need to disable native theme integration
[09:45] <danimo> debfx: I also improved the make install rules a bit
[09:45] <danimo> debfx: should be better than before
[09:46] <danimo> debfx: also it would be nice to have the arm float fixes in Creator as contribution via gerrit
[09:46] <danimo> debfx: they are trivial enough to consider them for 2.4 final
[09:46] <debfx> they are already in the rc
[09:47] <danimo> debfx: ah, ok, didn't see that, all the better
[09:50] <debfx> danimo: for which ubuntu releases to you want qt creator backports?
[09:50] <danimo> debfx: as many as possible :)
[09:50] <danimo> debfx: seriously speaking: the latest stable would be cool already
[09:51] <debfx> backporting the package wouldn't be a problem, but someone needs to test them
[09:51] <danimo> debfx: the problem is that no other product is so much tied to a new Qt than Creator
[09:52] <danimo> debfx: trust me: if we announce them on the Qt Creator list, you will get testers
[09:52] <danimo> debfx: I can add a debian package section in the bug tracker, with you as the assignee
[09:52] <danimo> debfx: (or ubuntu, or whatever)
[09:53] <danimo> debfx: problem is that you probably cannot backport them for e.g. 11.04 or 10.04
[09:53] <danimo> debfx: unless you backport Qt along with it seperately, like  the /opt/KDE project does: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qt-creator&project=home%3ABeineri%3Aopt%3AKDE%3AQt
[09:56] <debfx> nah, I'll pass on that ;)
[09:56] <debfx> is it a known bug that qt creator crashes when restoring the lat session?
[10:03] <debfx> danimo: it crashes in QDeclarativeExpression::hasError, I hope that's not caused by one of our qt patches
[10:05] <danimo> debfx: I've seen that problem before, but I could not reproduce it
[10:05] <danimo> debfx: is it reproduceable?
[10:06] <debfx> danimo: yes, it always crashes
[10:06] <danimo> debfx: strange, that should not be. backtrace appreciated
[10:11] <debfx> danimo: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=izdKbppf
[10:16] <danimo> debfx: I am afraid that is one of the bugs that have been fixed in Qt 4.8, and are only triggered with GCC 4.6
[10:17] <danimo> debfx: see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/857167
[10:17] <debfx> hm, that's kind of showstopper for qtcreator 2.4 in ubuntu 11.10
[10:18] <danimo> debfx: well, it's kind of a reason to add that 4.8 patch to the 4.7.4 packages, I'd rather say
[10:19] <danimo> debfx: (given it might fix unity2d)
[10:19] <danimo> debfx: but I agree, this needs to be addressed
[10:19] <debfx> aha, it's backportable?
[10:19] <danimo> debfx: I think so
[10:19] <debfx> you don't happen to know the commit id? :)
[10:19] <danimo> debfx: first I have to see if that's actually the problem we are talking about
[10:20] <danimo> debfx: that's what I'm looking for, too
[10:24] <danimo> debfx: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-19736
[10:24] <danimo> debfx: that's not it I think
[10:27] <danimo> debfx: QDeclarativeError::isValid (this=0x2100000000b1)
[10:27] <danimo> debfx: that address looks totally bogus
[10:30] <danimo> debfx: can you check if Qt contains the no-strict-aliasing patch?
[10:32] <debfx> danimo: yes, qt is built with -fno-strict-aliasing
[10:33] <danimo> debfx: ok, then that's probably not it
[10:36] <debfx> another backtrace has: #0  QDeclarativeExpression::hasError (this=0x1) at qml/qdeclarativeexpression.cpp:769    d = <error reading variable d (Cannot access memory at address 0x9)>
[10:48] <danimo> debfx: yeah, same thing
[10:48] <danimo> debfx: does this happen no matter where you click?
[10:52] <debfx> danimo: yes, it also crashes when I click on a "recently edited project"
[10:58] <danimo> debfx: I've heard about it, but there seems to be no bug report for it
[11:13] <danimo> debfx: can you do me a favor: find RecentProjects.qml, and replace "onClicked: projectWelcomePage.requestProject(filePath)" by "onClicked: console.log("requestProject()")" 
[11:13] <danimo> debfx: (you can do that on your installed creator instance)
[11:14] <danimo> debfx: does it still crash when you try to click on a recent project then?
[11:37] <danimo> debfx: I created https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-6582 from your BT
[11:37] <danimo> debfx: please append any information you might have
[13:19] <debfx> danimo: it doesn't crash anymore with the qml changes
[15:31] <shadeslayer> brrrr
[15:31] <shadeslayer> ssup people
[17:34] <skfin> What is the default graphical package manager for 12.04?
[17:35] <skfin> Or what it is in 11.10
[17:35] <skfin> I don't use Kubuntu anymore and if I would use, I would use apt
[17:36] <skfin> But I want to make sure that the default graphical package manager is translated
[17:36] <debfx> skfin: muon
[17:36] <skfin> Okay
[19:02] <legacylogger> Sput: y u software requires so new qt? :(
[19:02] <legacylogger>   The installed Qt version 4.3.4 is too old, at least version 4.6.0 is
[19:02] <legacylogger>   required
[19:02] <Sput> lol?
[19:02] <Sput> 4.3?
[19:02] <Sput> you using debian now?
[19:03] <legacylogger> lol, no
[19:03] <legacylogger> wtf
[19:03] <Sput> ah true, I think debian stale is even on 4.4 nowadays
[19:03] <Sput> :)
[19:04] <legacylogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/snapshot1.png
[19:04] <legacylogger> guess the version
[19:04] <legacylogger> muhahaha
[19:04] <Sput> potato
[19:04] <legacylogger> that aint no real version!
[19:05] <Sput> how many packagers are going to hate me if I bump the requirement to 4.7 soonish?
[19:05] <legacylogger> mememe
[19:05] <legacylogger> then again I'll probably not compile it myself anyway
[19:05] <legacylogger> konversation for supremacy
[19:06] <legacylogger> Sput: also note the fancy highlight that konversation does in the channel list
[19:06] <Sput>   if(WITH_QML)
[19:06] <Sput>     set(QT_MIN_VERSION "4.7.4")
[19:06] <Sput> :/
[19:06] <legacylogger> with the qt3
[19:06] <legacylogger> imagine it!
[19:06]  * legacylogger loves how Xorg is the most ram eating component again
[19:07] <legacylogger> my world is back to normal
[19:07] <legacylogger> woohoo :P
[19:10] <legacylogger> oh, no audio :/
[19:10] <Sput> die Freuden des kleinen Mannes
[19:10] <Sput> you mean
[19:10] <Sput> on, no pulseaudio \o/
[19:10] <legacylogger> ah
[19:10] <legacylogger> no pulse -> no audio
[19:10] <legacylogger> cruel world
[19:10] <legacylogger> Sput: now I can't listen to matze in amarok
[19:11] <legacylogger> Amarok 1.4 Welcome message was awesome
[21:56] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[22:01] <BarkingFish> evening Darkwing :)
[22:04] <Darkwing> Hows life?
[22:04] <Darkwing> It's a logger.
[22:04] <BarkingFish> Darkwing: it could be better, but I won't complain. I'd never stop talking if I did :P
[22:05] <Darkwing> LOL
[22:05] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: I hear that... Still looking for a job.
[22:05] <BarkingFish> Ah, you're looking for one. I have one to get back to, when I'm fit enough to do so.
[22:06] <BarkingFish> I've been signed out as sick for nearly 9 weeks, and that's not looking at finishing any time soon
[22:07] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: Ouch... that sucks
[22:07] <claydoh> hey Darkwing!!!
[22:07] <Darkwing> Hey claydoh 
[22:07] <BarkingFish> meh, i can't moan, Darkwing - i'm getting paid for sitting on my backside keeping my keyboard warm :)
[22:08] <Darkwing> BarkingFish: Awesome!