[16:01] mdke: ping [16:01] shaunm: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back) [16:01] wow, freaky [16:01] oh, auto-reply [16:02] mdke: can you point me to the xslt customization you guys use for the web? [16:03] I'm making some changes to mal2html.page.linktrails to make it easier to customize. I remember you have customizations for it, so I want to make sure my changes make things better for you [16:37] I've added two stub templates for customizations: one to insert extra links (or whatever) at the beginning of each trail [16:37] and one that's called if there are no trails to output (i.e. mal.link.linktrails returns nothing) [16:38] I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you need to get the extra site links without overriding non-stub templates === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [22:02] I can't get the italic docbook tag to work? [22:02] I'm doing ethX [22:47] hello there good evening [23:01] hi nuno [23:02] elz89: hi elz :) [23:03] elz89: i would like to contribute to the community by translating things, how can i do that? [23:04] elz89: i'm a Ubuntu/Linux noob actually, but, i loved the OS so much that i want to take part of the project and help in anything i can :) [23:06] nuno: OK, stick around. I am new to this all myself, but I am working on the 12.04 LTS Server Docs at the moment. Hopefully someone can advise you further. [23:06] elz89: how are you viewing the docbook file? [23:07] elz89: I'm Portuguese, and i'm bilingual, ENG/PT. That's where i can contribute most [23:07] shaunm: leafpad [23:08] elz89: i will thanks :) [23:08] nuno: like I said, stick around buddy, someone will point you in the right direction. [23:08] elz89: I'm confused. that's a text editor, yes? [23:08] yes [23:08] what should I be using? [23:08] elz89: Thank you [23:08] I'm just not sure what you mean by not being able to get to work [23:09] ethX [23:09] does not make ethX italic? [23:09] yes, when docbook is rendered to some format like html. in leafpad, you're just seeing the markup [23:10] I am talking about after render. [23:10] and the role attribute isn't necessary. every docbook processor I know of does italic by default for emphasis [23:10] shaunm: well I'm new to this so... [23:10] it's cool [23:11] sorry, that's what I was asking about. what tool are you using to render docbook to what? [23:11] 'make serverguide' is what i run [23:12] does it show what commands it's running when you do that? [23:12] possibly an xsltproc command? [23:12] yes i installed that package [23:13] and bzr docbook docbook-xsl xsltproc [23:13] does it print the entire command it's using? [23:13] I could pastebin the entire command? [23:13] there are two completely separate sets of docbook->html xslt transforms that are probably installed on your system [23:13] after 'make serverguide' ? [23:13] that would be great [23:13] yeah [23:14] ok [23:14] shaunm: gimme a min, on an Atom :-P [23:22] pastebinit clipped it at line 41 but here is the start http://paste.ubuntu.com/743731/ [23:23] nuno: do you have a launchpad account? [23:23] elz89: no can you please tell where to register one? [23:23] nuno: take a look at this, but grab yourself an account first: https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators [23:24] hum, I guess I'd have to know what ubuntu-html-chunk-cust.xsl is calling [23:24] elz89: thanks elz ;) [23:24] where's mdke when you need him? :) [23:24] shaunm: sorry. [23:25] nuno: No problem buddy. [23:27] oh, that's interesting [23:27] shaunm: ??? [23:28] docbook-xsl will actually not do the default italic formatting for any unrecognized roles [23:28] drop the attribute. that should work [23:28] shaunm: but sometime I use "bold" ? [23:29] yeah, so use role="bold" when you want bold, but don't use a role attribute when you just want italic [23:29] (I'm kind of surprised the code works that way, but it does) [23:30] shaunm: I have been using this and only this so far... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/DocbookTags [23:30] interesting [23:31] shaunm: so am I not using the version of DocBook that the page and tags refer to then or?... [23:31] it's not so much a different version of DocBook [23:32] honestly, I've never seen anybody use role="italic" anywhere. I'm surprised to see it on that page [23:32] I do know that the other docbook->html transforms, the ones that are used inside yelp, work differently. role="italic" will work in yelp [23:32] (although it's still unnecessary) [23:33] so perhaps the person who wrote that page always used yelp to view docbook [23:33] on that page it says ethX it right, right? [23:33] I would just use ethX [23:33] shaunm: ok [23:36] shaunm: because the 'make serverguide process takes ages, is there a way to only rebuild the 'network-config.xml' page that I am working on? [23:36] nuno: how is it going with launchpad? [23:37] elz89: no, not really. a docbook document generally has to be processed as a whole [23:37] elz89: i just registered, and found a translation group [23:38] nuno: I gave you the link to the translation group? [23:38] you could just try reading the document in yelp though. yelp is generally faster than docbook-xsl [23:38] elz89: am i going in the right track? [23:38] shaunm: ok, no problem. [23:39] on the page it said to look for my local translation group [23:39] shaunm: now that is where I get lost [23:39] elz89: oh i already messed up? :D (facepalm) [23:39] nuno: ok, maybe it does, I am not to sure as far translation stuff goes. [23:40] in the PT translation group? [23:40] nuno: no not messed up, i'm just not 100% sure where you should be heading, just get a launchpad account for now, get your keys sorted etc... [23:41] elz89: ok already got the account registered :) [23:41] nuno: good lad [23:41] pgp next [23:41] keys etc... [23:41] don't worry about ssh for docs. (or so I have been told) [23:41] elz89: ;) [23:48] shaunm: could you help me to understand the difference between yelp and docbook-xsl. I have only just got going with this, and I want to start off on the right foot.