| swharper | im doing a fresh 11.10 install and configuring RAID 6. Ive partition each drive with 2 partitions per the advanced install instructions in the admin guide | 00:01 |
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| swharper | when choosing the drives for the md, do i choose the smaller swap size or the other larger partition? | 00:02 |
| swharper | or do i need to have at least 2 mds? | 00:03 |
| swharper | one for the swaps and one for the rest? | 00:03 |
| Daviey | kirkland: around? If so, can you add a PPA for ~orchestra called "cobbler testing" please? | 00:06 |
| kirkland | Daviey: howdy! | 00:56 |
| kirkland | Daviey: sure! | 00:56 |
| kirkland | Daviey: i'll add you as an admin, too | 00:57 |
| irvee | what would be a good VM server to install on my ubuntu server that would allow me to control/view the vms from a win 7 machine? 10.04 | 00:58 |
| Daviey | kirkland: Great, thanks! | 01:01 |
| kirkland | Daviey: honestly, though... | 01:01 |
| kirkland | Daviey: it would be more discoverable if you used ppa:cobbler/ppa | 01:02 |
| Daviey | kirkland: there isn't a ~cobbler team.. not sure it's worth creating it, just seems more admin. | 01:03 |
| kirkland | Daviey: oh? https://launchpad.net/~cobbler | 01:03 |
| kirkland | :-) | 01:03 |
| Daviey | hah, Created On: 2011-11-19 | 01:04 |
| kirkland | Daviey: :-P | 01:04 |
| Daviey | Which funilly enough, is tomorrow for you - right? | 01:04 |
| Martyn^ | *lol* | 01:04 |
| Martyn^ | Yep | 01:04 |
| Martyn^ | It's in the future! | 01:04 |
| kirkland | Daviey: yeah, i just got back from the future | 01:04 |
| * Martyn^ is amazed by Daviey's amazing Doctor-like time travel powers | 01:04 | |
| kirkland | Daviey: itz awzome | 01:05 |
| kirkland | Daviey: anyway, i really like the pattern of ppa:FOO/ppa | 01:05 |
| Martyn^ | kirkland : Are there 80's themed Ronald Reagan cafes? | 01:05 |
| kirkland | Martyn^: yeah, funny enough, though, I found the W cafe more entertaining | 01:05 |
| Daviey | right! Time for bed, 2 hours ago. /me whips back in time to get some sleep. | 01:05 |
| kirkland | good steaks | 01:05 |
| kirkland | Daviey: adios | 01:06 |
| Daviey | o/ | 01:06 |
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| swharper | doing a fresh RAID install - do I install GRUB on the swap partition or the ext4 partition? | 01:41 |
| swharper | the ext4 partition has the mount point set at / if that makes a difference | 01:44 |
| qman__ | you install grub to the mbr of the boot disk | 01:47 |
| qman__ | you never install grub to a swap partition | 01:47 |
| swharper | thanks | 01:48 |
| swharper | blah | 01:49 |
| swharper | i tried both md0 and md1 and both are giving me errors | 01:49 |
| swharper | the OS is being installed on the RAID so there is no boot disk, exactly | 01:50 |
| swharper | from the help docs | 01:55 |
| swharper | After a successful install, you should also manually fix 2 shortcomings in the default configuration: | 01:55 |
| swharper | Install GRUB boot-loader on second drive (this step is not necessary if you use Ubuntu 9.10 or a newer one, which uses Grub2) | 01:55 |
| swharper | Update the startup script to detect a failed drive | 01:55 |
| swharper | but i dont think i can complete the install without installing grub? | 01:55 |
| qman__ | you need to choose an actual hard disk, not the raid array | 01:59 |
| swharper | scratch that - figured out that i can install w/o grub... | 01:59 |
| qman__ | sda is probably the one you want but it could be sdb, sdc, etc | 01:59 |
| swharper | the first disc is sdb | 02:00 |
| swharper | well i will revisit that... | 02:00 |
| qman__ | see, the array doesn't exist until after the kernel is booted | 02:00 |
| qman__ | so grub must be somewhere it can be read before that happens | 02:00 |
| qman__ | usually, the mbr of the first hard disk | 02:00 |
| swharper | now, my question: the activity lights are blinking like its building the array but the installer is finished | 02:01 |
| swharper | is it still safe to reboot? | 02:01 |
| qman__ | building the array can take a very long time | 02:01 |
| swharper | right | 02:01 |
| qman__ | yes, it is safe, it will autmoatically pick up when it starts back up | 02:01 |
| swharper | ok cool | 02:01 |
| qman__ | cat /proc/mdstat for status | 02:01 |
| swharper | thanks | 02:02 |
| swharper | hah..looks like its stuck at "verifying VMI pool data…"….fml | 02:05 |
| qman__ | while strictly speaking you can boot from a raid, I always make a /boot partition on one of the disks just because | 02:06 |
| qman__ | ~512MB | 02:07 |
| qman__ | avoids problems like this that aren't supposed to happen but do | 02:08 |
| swharper | ack | 02:08 |
| swharper | so on sdb create a 3rd partition | 02:09 |
| swharper | ext4 | 02:09 |
| swharper | mount / with bootable flag on | 02:10 |
| qman__ | the way I do it | 02:10 |
| swharper | at this point ill try anything ;) | 02:10 |
| qman__ | on the first disk, create first /boot ~512MB, then a second for swap (512MB less than the other disks will have), then raid partition | 02:10 |
| swharper | ok | 02:11 |
| qman__ | and on all the others, create just swap (full size) and raid partition | 02:11 |
| qman__ | so everything lines up | 02:11 |
| swharper | i was making my swaps 5gb | 02:11 |
| qman__ | that is, if I use swap at all | 02:11 |
| qman__ | that's way too much | 02:11 |
| swharper | ok | 02:11 |
| qman__ | how much RAM do you have? | 02:11 |
| swharper | 2gb | 02:11 |
| qman__ | I'd aim for ~2GB total swap then | 02:11 |
| swharper | ok | 02:11 |
| qman__ | unless you know you will be running lots of memory hungry programs | 02:12 |
| swharper | naw | 02:12 |
| qman__ | but even then, you should just buy more memory | 02:12 |
| swharper | this is just a media server | 02:12 |
| qman__ | how many disks in the raid? | 02:12 |
| swharper | 7 | 02:12 |
| qman__ | in taht case | 02:12 |
| swharper | x1.5tb | 02:12 |
| qman__ | make disk 1 not have a swap | 02:12 |
| qman__ | and make 512MB swaps on all the others | 02:12 |
| swharper | ok | 02:13 |
| qman__ | some people raid-1 the /boot, but it's entirely unnecessary | 02:14 |
| qman__ | all /boot contains is grub and the kernels, initramfs, and such | 02:15 |
| qman__ | all can be recreated easily in a live environment should that disk fail | 02:15 |
| mturilli | question about cobbler: is there a way to configure a macvlan + pre-up and post-down instructions in the kickstart (Ubuntu 11.10 with Orchestra)? | 02:15 |
| qman__ | only reason to do it would be a zero-downtime application | 02:15 |
| qman__ | recreating /boot from scratch is about a ten minute process if you know what you're doing, and restoring from a backup is even quicker | 02:16 |
| swharper | wont let me delete md0 for some reason - saying it may be in use | 02:17 |
| swharper | but it shouldnt be given im booting from the usb stick | 02:18 |
| qman__ | well, you first have to delete the partitions on md0 | 02:18 |
| qman__ | well, the filesystem, ext4, / | 02:18 |
| qman__ | then delete md0, then delete the raid partitions used to create md0 | 02:18 |
| qman__ | if you used lvm, you have to delete that too in the correct order | 02:19 |
| swharper | didnt use lvm | 02:35 |
| swharper | it was giving me a bazillion errors | 02:35 |
| swharper | i rebooted and now it is gone | 02:36 |
| swharper | i have the /boot partition setup | 02:36 |
| swharper | is there anything special i need to do with that | 02:36 |
| swharper | i have it set to bootable i believe | 02:36 |
| swharper | i assume i would install grub on that? | 02:36 |
| swharper | actually it appears to have resorted back to "do not use" :-\ | 02:38 |
| swharper | well i formatted it a bootable ext4 mounting /boot | 02:41 |
| swharper | here goes... | 02:41 |
| ruben23 | hi guys where do i find file .ssh on a ubuntu server..? i tried find command cant see it | 03:47 |
| ruben23 | any idea guys..? | 03:47 |
| nebajoth | .ssh is usually a directory, not a file, ruben23 | 03:50 |
| nebajoth | it is in your home directory | 03:50 |
| nebajoth | /home/ruben/.ssh/ | 03:50 |
| nebajoth | or whatever | 03:51 |
| nebajoth | what are you trying to do? | 03:51 |
| ruben23 | nebajoth: i already tried ls -a and no .ssh there so what i did is i created it | 03:55 |
| virusuy | do you have openssh-client installed ? | 03:57 |
| virusuy | should be by default, but, who knows | 03:57 |
| qman__ | IIRC the directory is not created until you SSH in somewhere and accept a key | 04:11 |
| qman__ | or generate a key for yourself | 04:11 |
| ruben23 | guys i tried to used putty to ssh without entering password on my ubuntu server fro the user side only | 04:12 |
| ruben23 | thast why i used ssh key gen and put it on .ssh directory and put authorizede_keys | 04:13 |
| ruben23 | it seems are all set but still the Server refused our key | 04:13 |
| qman__ | ~/.ssh must be chmod 700 | 04:14 |
| qman__ | and authorized_keys should be chmod 600 | 04:14 |
| ruben23 | qman__: already set but still same error ----> Server refused our key | 04:18 |
| delerium_ | d | 04:20 |
| qman__ | ensure that authorized_keys is formatted correctly and contains the whole key, and all the other information | 04:24 |
| qman__ | one key per line, in the format "ssh-rsa AAAAB3Nz...1238= keycomment" | 04:25 |
| qman__ | also ensure the server is configured to accept key authentication in /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 04:28 |
| qman__ | it's enabled by default but you could have changed it at some point | 04:29 |
| nebajoth | you're using putty... on windows? | 04:29 |
| nebajoth | what did you run ssh-keygen on? | 04:29 |
| Zanzacar | Hi everyone, I use weechat for my IRC needs. That being said I tried to install the latest version 0.3.6 and I messed everything up ( or so I think ) | 05:16 |
| Zanzacar | I downloaded the files from http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/oneiric/0.3.6/i386/ specifically the weechat-curses files. After that I did sudo dpkg -i file.deb | 05:17 |
| Zanzacar | i got an error saying the old weechat couldnt be installed as well. So I did sudo apt-get remove weechat-curses | 05:17 |
| Zanzacar | after that I tried sudo dpkg -i file.deb and I got more errors, at this point I dont know what to do so here is the errors I am getting just trying to reinstall weechat-curses | 05:20 |
| Zanzacar | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/510070/ | 05:21 |
| Zanzacar | weechat | 05:40 |
| virusuy | :-) | 05:59 |
| === virusuy is now known as virusuy-away | ||
| Zanzacar | Does anyone have any recommendations for terminal emulators other then putty? | 07:36 |
| Zanzacar | for a windows enviroment? | 07:36 |
| tero | what is wrong with putty? | 07:43 |
| Zanzacar | I have started using screen so I can come back to my session, and someone mentioned there being a problem with the buffer so I htought I would just ask | 07:44 |
| Zanzacar | for example if I go into vim and the exit the vim screen is still there | 07:44 |
| Zanzacar | I figured out what it was I just needed ot use scrollback | 07:55 |
| smw | Zanzacar, perhaps cygwin? | 07:57 |
| smw | I used it a long time ago back when I had windows on my computer :-P | 07:57 |
| smw | it was very useful... | 07:57 |
| Zanzacar | smw: I believe no mater what emulator I am in it would still be the same problem I would still need to use scrollback in some form | 07:58 |
| Zanzacar | because I am using screen as well | 07:58 |
| smw | ah | 07:58 |
| smw | screen has scrollback | 07:58 |
| smw | Zanzacar, http://www.samsarin.com/blog/2007/03/11/gnu-screen-working-with-the-scrollback-buffer/ | 07:59 |
| Zanzacar | smw: Thats the exact site I was using to figure it all out | 08:01 |
| * smw sees he is useless and knows he probably does not understand the problem | 08:02 | |
| smw | Zanzacar, I just use screen when I need a program to stay open after I logout and want to come back to it | 08:02 |
| Zanzacar | smw: I guess that is probably the best use really, I just learned about it and think it pretty neat | 08:09 |
| Zanzacar | smw: little combersome but kind of neat at the same time | 08:09 |
| smw | yep | 08:09 |
| smw | I mostly use it for rtorrent | 08:09 |
| Zanzacar | I mainly use it with weechat, and programing things like that right now | 08:10 |
| smw | ok | 08:10 |
| tero | heh yes screen.... when i was compiling something for 5 hours | 08:10 |
| tero | and i forgot to use screen... | 08:11 |
| tero | and my laptop battery died | 08:11 |
| tero | :( | 08:11 |
| Zanzacar | :( | 08:11 |
| Zanzacar | most my program are short python ones | 08:11 |
| Zanzacar | I learned python because I was so frustrated with bash | 08:11 |
| Zanzacar | can you give me an example of a program that would compile for 5 hours? | 08:12 |
| tero | well i am not a programmer | 08:12 |
| tero | sometimes i want something compiled from source | 08:12 |
| tero | some linux software | 08:12 |
| Zanzacar | oic, I am new to linux in general why compile it from source? | 08:13 |
| Zanzacar | I often see the option to do that but just dont understand why | 08:14 |
| tero | hmm that is a more philosophical question :) | 08:14 |
| tero | for me personally i just wanted a small correction .. | 08:15 |
| Zanzacar | a correction that you made or a correction that was released in source but not yet in a packaged form? | 08:16 |
| tero | that i made :) | 08:16 |
| tero | oh and btw | 08:17 |
| tero | i am also a linux noob :) | 08:17 |
| Zanzacar | I have only been on linux for about 3 months now, how about yourself? | 08:18 |
| tero | a few years more or less | 08:20 |
| tero | but my primary pc is windows 7 :) | 08:20 |
| Zanzacar | I have a work laptop ( I need AutoCAD ) and then my home computer is ubuntu, and I have a server at home too ubunutu-server 11.10 | 08:22 |
| === ejat- is now known as ejat | ||
| Adonai | Satan, El diablo, Shaytan, Sofia Rosengren 32 years, World Class city Göteborg, she lives in protekted adress, | 10:33 |
| Adonai | her father name is Johansson, adress Westmarksgränd 21, 44435 Nödinge. blond hair, Satan, El diablo, Shaytan, | 10:33 |
| Adonai | Jesus is Lord, Tsidkenu the lord of rightoutness | 10:33 |
| jMCg | I don't think anybody really cares.. | 10:43 |
| === Skaag_ is now known as Skaag | ||
| === Skaag_ is now known as Skaag | ||
| === RudyValencia- is now known as RudyValencia | ||
| === virusuy-away is now known as virusuy | ||
| Dogwater | Howdy, I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.11 on a server and right after it says "writing dhcp stanza" it just hangs forever | 15:20 |
| Dogwater | anyone know what the dealio is? | 15:21 |
| qman__ | I don't, but try installing without the network plugged in | 15:21 |
| Dogwater | I'm installing from the network =D | 15:21 |
| Dogwater | box doesn't have any physical media | 15:21 |
| Dogwater | except for the hard drives | 15:21 |
| qman__ | well, sounds related | 15:22 |
| Dogwater | is there a log hidden somewhere during installation that would tell me what it's waiting for? | 15:23 |
| qman__ | unfortuantely I don't know anything about installing from the network, sorry | 15:23 |
| qman__ | if you're only doing one or two machines, I can suggest using a flash drive to install as an alternative | 15:26 |
| Dogwater | i hit ctrl-c like 5 times and it continued the install | 15:26 |
| Dogwater | wtf | 15:26 |
| qman__ | if you stick around long enough someone else can probably help with your specific problem though | 15:26 |
| Dogwater | ah, moot anyway 11.11 doesn't support my adaptec raid controller | 15:31 |
| Dogwater | crikey | 15:31 |
| Dogwater | nothing supports my adaptec raid controller =D | 15:31 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: which controller is that? | 15:31 |
| Dogwater | 6405 | 15:31 |
| Dogwater | not that new | 15:32 |
| Dogwater | really | 15:32 |
| Dogwater | I wish they'd just have an option in the BIOS on these cards for making them appear to be the older model | 15:32 |
| Dogwater | so you can still buy the good hardware | 15:32 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: pastebin "lspci -vvv;lspci -vvvn" | 15:33 |
| Dogwater | I can't because I can't get past the installer =) | 15:33 |
| Dogwater | can you ssh into the install shell? | 15:33 |
| Dogwater | or ftp out of it? | 15:34 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: you can boot up on a live cd | 15:34 |
| Dogwater | I think I can ftp out from there i'll try it real quick | 15:35 |
| RoyK | k | 15:39 |
| Dogwater | ah the server has fedora16 on it since thats the only distro that will install on it atm =D so I'll just do the lspci, etc from there | 15:39 |
| RoyK | k | 15:40 |
| Dogwater | http://pastebin.com/HGPyHq9h | 15:41 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: sec | 15:49 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: is this the one? 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 05) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) | 15:52 |
| Dogwater | Nope it's an adaptec card | 15:57 |
| Dogwater | let me find it | 15:57 |
| Dogwater | 352.02:00.0 RAID bus controller: Adaptec Device 028b (rev 01) | 15:57 |
| Dogwater | ? | 15:57 |
| Dogwater | That is most likely the one. | 15:57 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: could you pastebin -vvvn as well? | 15:58 |
| RoyK | -n => do not resolv, aka show PCI IDs | 15:59 |
| Dogwater | I think I posted both | 16:01 |
| Dogwater | it's 02:00.0 0104: 9005:028b (rev 01) on both lists | 16:01 |
| Dogwater | 803.02:00.0 0104: 9005:028b (rev 01) | 16:01 |
| Dogwater | You can tell because at the very bottom it's loading aacraid | 16:01 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: seems installing ubuntu on that thing won't work too well :( | 16:08 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: file a bug... | 16:09 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: or if you're in a hurry, try Precise :þ | 16:09 |
| Dogwater | Is it just because Ubuntu doesn't have the driver? or what? | 16:11 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: I guess there's no driver in upstream kernels | 16:12 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: or if there is, it was added recently | 16:14 |
| RoyK | doesn't seem to be in 3.2.0rc1 either | 16:15 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: just file a bug, please, then it may be fixed soon - the driver source is available from adaptec, and for what I know it may possibly be an easy job to add that card - sometimes it's just the PCI ID that needs adding | 16:18 |
| Dogwater | ah, weird it's in Fed16 and fed16 is only kernel 3.1 | 16:22 |
| Dogwater | where do I file a bug? | 16:22 |
| === Skaag_ is now known as Skaag | ||
| RoyK | !bug | 17:28 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 17:28 |
| RoyK | Dogwater: see above | 17:28 |
| mcbaine | hi there | 17:41 |
| mcbaine | hi there ?? | 17:42 |
| RoyK | hi | 17:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #892554 in cloud-init (main) "SSH keys summary does not report ECDSA key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892554 | 18:16 |
| === IdleOne is now known as pangolin | ||
| RoyK | what would be the 'preferred' disk format for kvm-based VMs? vmdk? qcow? qcow2? raw? fried? boiled? | 19:47 |
| pangolin | lol @ fried, boiled | 20:57 |
| Daviey | RoyK: raw takes up as much space as the virtual disk, this is often a genative. qcow2 does use only the amount of actual disk space as is required, not what is decalred. | 21:02 |
| Daviey | qcow2 has some overhead compared to raw, but i'd still go for qcow2. | 21:02 |
| RoyK | Daviey: I went with raw - it's like 30GB on a 6TB system, so it's not much... | 21:28 |
| kklimonda | tjaalton: hey, we need an updated sssd in precise (abi for ldb modules has changed). Are you working on it, or maybe can I do it? If so is there anything I should take a look at (for example why are we providing a working sssd conf file? Does it break the hell all break loose if we don't?) | 22:36 |
| storrgie | Has anyone updated the bios of a supermicro board over IPMI? | 22:42 |
| jasonmsp | hey all.. Anyone know of something that will maintain a graph of top data? ie something that will monitor the server and then display the information in a graph format? | 22:57 |
| andol | jasonmsp: munin? | 23:11 |
| jasonmsp | andol: thanks | 23:14 |
| Monotoko | I'm trying to set up a web server with FTP access for a few private projects of mine, and a couple of friends, I give each user a local account so they can log into FTP, SSH etc but I'm having an issue with apache because it can't write to the users directory | 23:38 |
| Monotoko | I know big hosting panels do it... but I just want something small that I'm not paying $30+ per month for, how would I configure it so the apache user (33) can access the users htdocs folder and the user can access it as well | 23:39 |
| julian_c | Set the permissions on the user's folder to group read/write/execute, and make sure that the apache user is a member of the group that owns the user's folder (usually, same group name as user name). | 23:41 |
| Monotoko | julian_c, I've tried that... but then how about when the user uploads? | 23:42 |
| Monotoko | the big panels all have it set as 755... | 23:42 |
| Monotoko | and I really don't see how | 23:42 |
| julian_c | I think it would have to be 775 rather than 755. | 23:43 |
| julian_c | That should not be too much of a security problem, as long as only the user and apache have write access to the user' directory. | 23:45 |
| Monotoko | julian_c, cPanel uses 755.. probably some black magic in there somewhere... but if I do it your way, how would I get pure-ftpd to upload with 775 permissions? | 23:45 |
| Monotoko | by default.. | 23:45 |
| julian_c | I think it would be in the pure-ftpd.conf file where permissions would be set. Looking it up to be sure... | 23:49 |
| Monotoko | julian_c, thank you! | 23:53 |
| julian_c | Found something that worked? | 23:53 |
| Monotoko | no... I'm looking though | 23:53 |
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