[01:16] <Blazeix> I don't really see a problem with introducing a second element for sizing, it'd be dynamically generated by the plugin.
[01:17] <Blazeix> if you really don't like that i suppose you could also estimate character width and try to calculate # of lines based on textarea width
[01:17] <Blazeix> adjusting for newlines
[01:18] <Blazeix> but i'm not sure that's any better than just shrinking the textarea and then readjusting
[01:39] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, it's because I'm strapping on top of existing ui
[01:40] <rick_h_> so doing a lot of dom stuff to build that up isn't practical
[01:40] <rick_h_> right now I'm not breaking any other css, js, etc hook points on there
[01:41] <rick_h_> though you do point out one other issue and that's if you remove few characters, but lots of newlines, it'll jump. So you'd want to count both character diffs and new lines in the diff I suppose to be accurate
[01:45] <rick_h_> hmm, maybe I could just create a sizing box off the page and not need to wrap it within the textarea container
[01:49] <Blazeix> the bookie superbly tag field does something like that
[01:49] <rick_h_> yea
[01:56] <rick_h_> http://james.padolsey.com/javascript/jquery-plugin-autoresize/ is really nice
[01:57] <rick_h_> I think I can steal this idea, clone the node, shove it off screen, calc there and then the animation is a nice touch
[01:57] <rick_h_> only thing will be dealing with really large blocks of content, but deal with that when I hit that much content
[01:59] <rick_h_> anyway, time to hang it up for the night. Thanks Blazeix
[01:59] <rick_h_> lol, doh! I ordered the tom bihn backback one day too late
[02:00] <rick_h_> ETA is the monday after I fly out
[02:00] <rick_h_> stupid holiday, 11 day ups ground trip
[14:21] <_stink_> might be a long shot, but does anyone here have experience with a java decompiler?
[14:38] <snap-l> _stink_: only in passing.
[14:39] <snap-l> Haven't used one since 2003-2004
[14:39] <_stink_> aight, np
[14:39] <_stink_> yeah
[14:39] <_stink_> seems like there isn't an obvious modern choice.
[14:39] <snap-l> _stink_: Question is why? :)
[14:39] <_stink_> snap-l: at work we have a juniper web-based VPN, and i want to take apart the .jar file used in linux and see how it works.
[14:39] <snap-l> Well, the jar file is just a zip file
[14:40] <_stink_> mostly because i want to know if i can write an android client for it.
[14:40] <_stink_> oh... see, i don't know much about java.
[14:40] <_stink_> i can unpack it and see source?
[14:40] <_stink_> or will it be bytecode?
[14:40] <snap-l> Yeah, it has a META-INF file that acts like a manifest
[14:40] <snap-l> Generally speaking they're just .class files in a directory.
[14:40] <_stink_> ok, sweet.
[14:40] <_stink_> thanks.
[14:41] <snap-l> depends on what they did with those .class files, though
[14:42] <_stink_> maybe i'll take a look then ask you again :P
[14:42] <_stink_> since you are now my first choice for java questions.
[14:42] <_stink_> congrats!
[14:43] <snap-l> huzzah
[14:44] <snap-l> I just ran JD-GUI against some java code I had laying around
[14:45] <snap-l> it did a decen't job
[14:48] <snap-l> Hopefully they didn't run it through some obfuscation
[16:21] <jrwren> ColonelPanic001: is that you in #mono asking about F#?
[16:57] <snap-l> Done with the dentist for now
[16:57] <snap-l> one side of my face is numb
[17:00] <jrwren> get nitrous ?
[17:00] <snap-l> No, I went without today.
[17:01] <snap-l> I usually do, but decided I'm a big boy now. :)
[17:05] <snap-l> lsls
[17:05] <jrwren> i'd say yes, just because its fun.
[17:05] <snap-l> Yeah, it can be
[17:06] <snap-l> is it just me, or is a lot of the Internet broken today?
[17:07] <snap-l> Stuff is just not resolving.
[17:07] <snap-l> Is there some CDN that's offline?
[17:31] <brousch> you guys need to go occupy john conyer's yard. he is a supporter of the SOPA
[17:31] <brousch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Supporters
[18:13] <snap-l> John Conyers is an ass.
[18:24] <greg-g> +1 to that
[18:24] <greg-g> he's deep in the big media's pockets
[18:27] <snap-l> He's deep into anyone that plays the bullshit politics games
[18:27] <snap-l> he's not afraid to follow the money, and is about as corrupt as they come
[18:36] <brousch> isn't he your rep?
[18:41] <snap-l> brousch: No, Gary Peters is
[18:41] <snap-l> Conyers represents Wayne County folk
[20:40] <Blazeix> neat, stanford crypto class: http://www.crypto-class.org/
[20:42] <snap-l> hello from gdfish tea
[20:47] <rick_h_> gdfish?
[20:51] <snap-l> goldfish
[20:51] <snap-l> i cant type
[20:52] <rick_h_> Blazeix: snap-l what do you guys think of yui theater viewing ofr CHC this week?
[20:53] <snap-l> id be for it
[20:53] <snap-l> which knes did you have i mind?
[20:54] <rick_h_> maybe the crockf and class inheritance/composition patterns?
[20:54] <rick_h_> might be more coming up this week
[20:55] <rick_h_> but figured it'll probably be a bit low attendance and would be cool to set aside some time
[20:55] <rick_h_> I know even not doing YUI I've liked a lot of their videos/talks
[20:55] <snap-l> yeah, that would be near
[20:55] <snap-l> near
[20:55] <snap-l> fuck
[20:55] <snap-l> neat
[20:56] <Blazeix> i won't be able to make chc this week
[20:56] <rick_h_> booo :LP
[20:56] <rick_h_> err :P
[20:56] <Blazeix> will you be able to stream those videos over your mifi?
[20:56] <rick_h_> I have an excuse, I'm rsyning email up atm
[20:56] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, that's the plan
[20:57] <rick_h_> and project on the wall
[20:57] <rick_h_> bring an external speaker
[20:57] <Blazeix> nice
[20:59] <jrwren> how do you guys do CHC theatre?
[20:59] <jrwren> where do you meet?
[20:59] <rick_h_> there's a room we went at the caribou
[20:59] <rick_h_> /went/rent
[21:00] <jrwren> cool.
[21:00] <jrwren> private room sounds nice
[21:00] <rick_h_> yea, we don't get it every week
[21:00] <rick_h_> fierce scheduling competition
[21:00] <rick_h_> but nice to block out some coffee house noises
[21:00] <rick_h_> and do stuff like this hopefully
[21:06] <snap-l> its in royal oam on woodward
[21:07] <snap-l> reading javascript thr good parts
[21:07] <snap-l> i think more books should be written like this
[21:07] <snap-l> have to  . editate on each sentence
[21:07] <snap-l> meditate
[21:32] <greg-g> rick_h_: haha, LP on the brain, eh? (re: ":LP")
[21:37] <rick_h_> greg-g: I guess
[22:25] <rick_h_> hmm, this might actually work...
[22:27] <rick_h_> now how to figure outgoing mail hmmm