[00:00] <xruud> slucidi: No such luck :(
[00:01] <xruud> slucidi: We have been trying for an hour now. It is getting late over here (1am)...
[00:01] <slucidi> xruud: drat =/  I still think it's related to LightDM, but I'm out of ideas short of removing it and going back to GDM.  I'm rather unwilling to suggest you actually do that though, unless you're desperate.  Here's a link to the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/851055
[00:01] <slucidi> :xruud ahh yeah =/ sorry about that friend.
[00:01] <xruud> slucidi: Thanks for your help
[00:02] <slucidi> :xruud you might try following that thread and just waiting for an update to come through
[00:02] <xruud> slucidi: I have another option: reinstall. But how does that guarantee anything...
[00:02] <slucidi> :xruud yeah, that doesn't necessarily promise you anything.
[00:02] <xruud> slucidi: everything I have is backed up, So I can mindelssly reinstall
[00:03] <slucidi> I seem to have started swapping my colons at some point...
[00:03] <slucidi> xruud: might not be a completely awful choice then. (I've during the last hour and a half reinstalled about 6 times trying to get xorg and various other issues to cooperate with my multiple gpu setup...)
[00:03] <xruud> slucidi: Well, it worked in the beginning, but I get your point. Noticed your colons :P
[00:04] <slucidi> lol
[00:04] <xruud> slucidi: I'm having a breagleboard that won't start 11.10 with keyboard and mouse
[00:04] <xruud> beagleboard..
[00:04] <slucidi> ugh
[00:05] <trihedron> I wouldn't start 11.10 on any HW
[00:05] <goo6y> how do I use http rapper
[00:05] <xruud> slucidi: It boots ubuntu just fine, but gets stuck at config because I cannot enter any info
[00:05] <biox> fatto
[00:06] <xruud> trihedron: Is it that bad? It is the first ever ubuntu I found good enough to not erase after a few hours :P
[00:06] <xruud> trihedron: or linux for that matter
[00:06] <slucidi> xruud: heh, that's baffling.  I don't know a thing about getting stuff running on an arm board though
[00:06] <slucidi> as an old ubuntu hat... I'm perfectly happy with 11.10 ;)
[00:06]  * trihedron won't update from 11.04 till unity gets a whole lot better
[00:07] <tensorpudding> you could use gnome-shell instead of unity
[00:07] <xruud> slucidi: I'm still learning. Must get the keys or anything working to advance though. Right now I'm staring at a language choice window
[00:07] <tensorpudding> unity isn't likely to change
[00:07] <tensorpudding> too much
[00:07] <trihedron> well easy enough on 11.04
[00:07] <goo6y> It's an Ubuntu world
[00:07] <trihedron>  on 11.10 i'd have to install it first
[00:08] <slucidi> trihedron: I think it's base in 11.10 unless I installed it in my sleep
[00:08] <trihedron> nope it isn't
[00:08] <trihedron> or i was asleep
[00:08] <slucidi> well, at any rate since 11.10 is based on gnome 3 it's much less painful to get it running
[00:08] <xruud> trihedron: since I started ubuntu with 11.10 I can tell you I know no others then Unity
[00:08] <slucidi> it doesn't break everything when installed like it does in 11.04
[00:10] <Elda> I am curious, is Unity a different gui from gnome or what? :x  Today was my first time really dealing with unity
[00:10] <trihedron> I like 11.04 as it is and I don't see any reason to upgrade
[00:10] <xruud> trihedron: I will try 11.04 for beagleboard though. Going down in versions until I find a working one!
[00:10] <ratc> unity suck, go mint!
[00:10] <trihedron> how old is that board ?
[00:10] <trihedron> no mint isn't as compatible
[00:10] <xruud> trihedron: beagleboard-mx rev c
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: install xfce4 and use that instead
[00:11] <trihedron> in years ?
[00:11] <ratc> compatible with unity?
[00:11] <Resistance> !mint | ratc
[00:11] <trihedron> ActionParsnip, that might be an idea
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: there are more desktops than gnome
[00:11] <xruud> trihedron: production date unknown, I got it a week ago
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: could also try gnome-shell instead of Unity
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ratc: changing to a smaller community for the sake of something as easily changable as a desktop shell makes no sense at all
[00:12] <trihedron> I plaed with most gnome versions including mate but I still thinkg gnome3 is pretty cool
[00:12] <droidDev32> does ubuntu work well on ssd? Does it use TRIM?
[00:12] <slucidi> xruud: my reading suggests that the arm version of 11.04 works well on the beagle
[00:12] <ratc> i'm just throwing out bate :P
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: not sure of trim but it can be installed to SSDs
[00:14] <xruud> slucidi: Thanks! Do you have a source? I tried several versions before trying 11.10 which was the first to actually boot past expanding
[00:14] <slucidi> xruud: yep! one sec while I get you a link
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM   ext4 supports TRIM
[00:14] <subman> I need some help here with really slow performance with my nVidia card and OpenGL drivers
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: http://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/howtoconfigureext4toenabletrimforssdsonubuntu
[00:15] <slucidi> xruud: you've probably already seen this, but this is what I was reading: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[00:15] <lapion> droidDev32, 11.10 can handle trim however it's better to setup batched trim.. instead of mounting with trim
[00:16] <lapion> apparently the kernel sends too much commands if trim is a mount option
[00:16] <droidDev32> Do you think i could dual boot a 60gb ssd with Windows 7 and ubuntu or would it be betterto just install ubuntu on my hdd?
[00:17] <trihedron> 60gb is going to be tight in about a year
[00:17] <lapion> I used to run my laptop with a CompactFlash-SSD so to say..
[00:18] <xruud> slucidi: Actually no... I have seen several pages on elinux, but noen of those refer to this one, but to external sources which I all followed
[00:18] <lapion> and it worked fine with ubuntu.. however I would not advice under any circumstance to forcefully turn off the laptop..
[00:18] <xruud> Going to try this one tomorrow morning!
[00:18] <lapion> do not put your home filesystem on the ssd.. and make sure the var is not on the ssd
[00:19] <xruud> droidDev32: that will not work well. What would the system be used for?
[00:19] <slucidi> xruud: cool =] have fun with it and good luck
[00:19] <xruud> slucidi: Thanks again, thanks a bunch and thank you ;)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> also put your browser cache in tempfs :)
[00:20] <slucidi> not a problem, glad to be a help ;) sorry we couldn't get your login issues sorted
[00:20] <droidDev32> just android coding and other random stuff
[00:20] <xruud> slucidi: I'm going to reinstall...
[00:21] <xruud> slucidi: and make an image of the installation!
[00:21] <lapion> if you have to run the whole system with only one device, mount a tmpfs where the .mozilla folder is and backup/restore it's contents before shutting down/rebooting or any other mischief
[00:21] <subman> How to update my nVidia drivers?  What is the latest version?
[00:21] <trihedron> as long as you keep you /home in a safe place ..
[00:21] <slucidi> xruud: good idea, hehe. that's probably what I'd do at this point
[00:22] <wolfman3k5> how am I supposed to start services in Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:22] <xruud> trihedron: All backed up
[00:22] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: does 'sudo service <servicename> start' do the trick for you?
[00:22] <droidDev32> how should i partition a 2tb hdd to shate data between windows 7 and ubuntu? Should I just use NTFS?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> could get an iRAM
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: yes, both OSes can access NTFS just dandy
 for example "service apache2 restart" doesn't work in 11.19
 for example "service apache2 restart" doesn't work in 11.10
[00:23] <droidDev32> Do you have to setup automounting of NTFS in 11.10?
[00:23] <trihedron> or /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:24] <xruud> trihedron: In fact, yesterday a salesmen was trying to sell me more expensive micro sd cards because they where safer to keep your data on. I felt the urge to argue no single storage device on the market will be safe anyway so I'd take the cheaper please
[00:24] <wolfman3k5> trihedron obviously you haven't used 11.10...
[00:24] <lapion> droidDev32, NTFS is slowwwwww
[00:24] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: I don
[00:24] <trihedron> xruud, whatever you use can poptentially lose the date
[00:24] <slucidi> err. I don't have that problem
[00:24] <lapion> droidDev32, NTFS can bring a quadcore to it's knees
[00:25] <slucidi> you did actually install apache2, yes?
[00:25] <trihedron> wolfman3k5, for 10 minutes and then i downgraded
[00:25] <Chees_BHW> hi. where to find the postfix log? its not in /var/log
[00:25] <wolfman3k5> trihedron to what? 10.04?
[00:25] <trihedron> 11.04
[00:25] <xruud> trihedron: exactly the point. But I went with the easier "no thank you, I'll take the cheaper please" Didn't want to be the wiseguy, or emberrass him because the store was filled with customers :P
[00:25] <wolfman3k5> trihedron why?
[00:25] <droidDev32> lapion, what do you recommend for a data partition for widows and ubuntu to access?
[00:25] <lapion> droidDev32, use fat, and create 2 partitions
[00:25] <McWiney> hey, whats the bar thing called that holds open windows?
[00:26] <trihedron> wolfman3k5, i hate unity
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> fat is not robust
[00:26] <Chees_BHW> hi. where to find the postfix log? its not in /var/log ?
[00:26] <trihedron> and 11.04 gived me what i need
[00:26] <slucidi> droidDev32: ntfs. don't use fat, please.
[00:26] <xruud> Anyway; 1:30am over here, going to zzzzzzzzzz
[00:26] <xruud> Thanks all
[00:26] <McWiney> eg; there's a menu bar and a <blank> bar. Whats the name I'm looking for where minimized applications go?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: you don't have to use unity in Oneiric, KDE doesn't use it (for example)
[00:26] <lapion> droidDev32, I would suggest either getting rid of windows, or just sharing the hdd over the network from the ubuntu system and creating ext4fs
[00:26] <Jordan_U> !notunity | trihedron
[00:27] <Chees_BHW> hi. where to find the postfix log? its not in /var/log ??
[00:27] <wolfman3k5> trihedron why?
[00:27] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: I don't think you actually apt-get installed apache2... 'service apache2 start' works for me. can you show me a pastebin of its output?
[00:27] <trihedron> thanks Jordan_U
[00:28] <Jordan_U> trihedron: You're welcome.
[00:28] <smw> I have the following sudoers line: tomcat ALL = (apache) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/apachectl. How can I specify that apachectl may only be called with certain flags?
[00:28] <wolfman3k5> slucidi I just rebuilt my distro on Linode, so it's a fresh install
[00:28] <muhomor2> Hi everyone, I'm trying to launch etherape using sudo etherape but it gives me: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[00:29] <trihedron> slucidi, i'm pretty sure /etc/init.d/apache2 restart will also work on 111.10
[00:29] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: then you'll need to 'sudo apt-get install apache2' if you want to run it from a fresh install. ;)
[00:29] <lapion> ActionParsnip, yeah at least fat doesn't bring a ubuntu quadcore system to it
[00:29] <Resistance> trihedron:  it does.  wolfman3k5:  make sure you installed apache2, as slucidi just stated.
[00:29] <lapion> ActionParsnip, 's knees like ntfs does
[00:29] <wolfman3k5> slucidi you're right, I just did a SSH restart
[00:29] <wolfman3k5> slucidi my bad
[00:29] <slucidi> no problem =]
[00:30] <wolfman3k5> slucidi I won't install Apache 2 anymore. I will go NGINX this time
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> lapion: yes but a sudden power off will possibly destroy data, which is more important
[00:30] <wolfman3k5> slucidi root@tek:~# service ssh restart
[00:30] <wolfman3k5> ssh start/running, process 2391
[00:30] <lapion> ActionParsnip, only data that was being written to.. usually tha hapens to all fs..
[00:30] <wolfman3k5> slucidi does that look familiar ?:)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> lapion: i've had to hard power off MANY windows servers and had no issues
[00:31] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: hehe yep, your install is working fine, you just need to install the packages you want to use to run your webserver via apt ;)
[00:31] <slucidi> (or other chosen installation method)
[00:32] <lapion> ActionParsnip, never had a windows system that would allways go bsod ?
[00:32] <wolfman3k5> slucidi I will go with NGINX - MYSQL - PFM-PHP and POSTFIX + DOVECOT for mail
[00:32] <lapion> sometimes the problem get's solved by fsck the ntfs from linux
[00:33] <lapion> ActionParsnip, if the file is being written to  the file is suspect...
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> lapion: we have a number of known annoying servers, they get hard booted a few times but managment wont get new
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> lapion: usually after a scheduled reboot (Citrix box)
[00:33] <trihedron> citrix was yesterday
[00:33] <wolfman3k5> slucidi I want to install Ubuntu on my desktop as well, but I got dual Radeon 6950 XFire cards, and I need to Kill X the first time it boots so that I can install AMD proprietary drivers. How do I do that? I haven't plaid with X in years, so my memory is kinda funny
[00:34] <wolfman3k5> fuzzy
[00:34] <spacebug-> should not firefox 8 be out by now?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: it is
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: loads of companies use it
[00:34] <wolfman3k5> spacebug- it is... looks and performs like 7, which looked and performed like 6, which was more like 5, which was a rename of 4...
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/07/firefox-8-is-20-faster-than-firefox-5.html
[00:34] <spacebug-> ActionParsnip: apt-get update dont seem to find it
[00:34] <trihedron> ActionParsnip, well there is still plenty shops out there on novell 3.22
[00:34] <Richie086> wolfman3k5: boot into a recovery console from the grub boot menu.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: its in a ppa, not the official repos
[00:35] <spacebug-> ah ok
[00:35] <wolfman3k5> Richie086 I did that, and started the system as root, and then it keeps telling me that everything is read-only
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> trihedron: contact nvidia and ask how they manager thier HR
[00:35] <lapion> nn ActionParsnip
[00:35] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: you shouldn't need to outright kill xorg to install the drivers. but at any rate you can do ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a virtual terminal, log in, and then use kill to end the process. or just install the drivers from the command line that way
[00:36] <Richie086> wolfman3k5: yeah what slucidi just said,
[00:36] <machiolate> how do I move every file in the current directory with a particular string into a certain folder using the terminal?
[00:36] <bastidrazor> wolfman3k5: sudo service lightdm stop  will safely stop X
[00:36] <usr13_> wolfman3k5: To kill X, Ctrl-Alt-F6, login and do  service gdm stop
[00:36] <wolfman3k5> slucidi I need to because I got a CrossFire setup, so after a fresh install I get black screens on my dual monitor setups ... with blinking lights, which means that the monitors are not getting a signal
[00:36] <wolfman3k5> usr13_ 10x allot:)
[00:36] <spacebug-> ActionParsnip: do you know which ppa? =)
[00:36] <usr13_> sudo service gdm stop
[00:37] <office3> how do I get the gnome traditional desktop on 11.10?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: Stop. Before you continue installing proprietary drivers this way, why aren't you using the recommended "Additional Drivers" utility?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> machiolate: fine /path/to/folder | grep -i string -exec mv {} /path/to/desk \;
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: read the link I gave you....
[00:37] <wolfman3k5> office3 I actually like Unitity... then again, I've been using Mac OS X for years
[00:37] <ikonia> office3: gnome 2 is dead, the sooner you start using a current desktop the easier you'll find it in the long run
[00:37] <robin0800> office3, install gnome-panel
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: that's why I gave you it
[00:37] <usr13_> wolfman3k5: But as Jordan_U states, it is best to use the package management system.
[00:38] <office3> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel thanks!
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> office3: xfce4 smells and feels like Gnome2
[00:38] <usr13_> wolfman3k5: And it will be easier too.
[00:38] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U because I didn't know about it :) I have just recently switched from Debian to Ubuntu, and in Debian I was constantly hacking stuff because everything was always old or outdated
[00:38] <slucidi> he just said he can't actually see anything when the machine comes up... he just needed guidance to get to a virtual terminal methinks
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> machiolate: duplicated names will overwrite the old one. Could alos use cp instead of mv
[00:39] <wolfman3k5> slucidi that's right
[00:39] <psychx-> Anyone know any really good games for ubuntu/linux? Something with an awesome storyline or some kind of adventure game? magic, medievil, shooter, etc... all are cool with me.
[00:39] <usr13_> office3: ActionParsnip is correct, it sure does.  You can easily make it look and feel like 10.04
[00:39] <wolfman3k5> usr13_ Jordan_U slucidi > How do I get the Additional Drivers Utility?
[00:39] <usr13_> ... old school gnome2
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> uses fewer resources too
[00:39] <usr13_> sure does
[00:40] <machiolate> what does the find path/to/folder do Action? is that necessary if i'm already in an adjacent directory?
[00:40] <wolfman3k5> ActionParsnip I don't know if there is anything heavier on resources than Windows
[00:40] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: Search for "drivers" in the unity dashboard.
[00:40] <Nath-> where are the repositories for karmic ?
[00:40] <machiolate> i can see the folder i want if i do "ls"
[00:40] <usr13_> wolfman3k5: My horse is.
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> machiolate: then you can omit the path, I just added it for completeness
[00:40] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U I can't get any king of GUI working
[00:41] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U so I can't get to a dashboard
[00:41] <psychx-> usr13: you have a horse?
[00:41] <spacebug-> ActionParsnip: well I got version 11 with that hehe
[00:41] <wolfman3k5> psychx- usr13 was joking
[00:41] <wolfman3k5> Windows Vista and 7 are resource pigs
[00:41] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: How long have you not been able to get any GUI? Did you need to use the alternate installer to install Ubuntu or did X work from the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB?
[00:41] <usr13_> sure do
[00:41] <psychx-> wolfman3k5: oh :( i wanted to ask a few questions about horses... thinking about buying a lot of property and building a home... was thinking of getting a horse or two.. lol
[00:41] <Nath-> any one know what i'm meant to use in sources.list in 9.10 ? since the locations seem to have just dissapeared.
[00:42] <machiolate> action what is path to desk? you mean the path to the target folder?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> wolfman3k5: Depends on config, install KDE and add all the widgets you can find and it'll blow up nicely
[00:42] <spacebug-> sorry my misstake
[00:42] <ikonia> Nath-: they have moved to oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: thats the nightly, there is a stable ppa which should have 8
[00:42] <Nath-> thankyou
[00:42] <slucidi> wolfman3k5: 7's not so bad. it's a big improvement over Vista at least. and 8's shaping up to be even less resource heavy if the dev preview is any indication.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> !eol | Nath-
[00:42] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U the LiveCD works for some strandge reason (no special FX and stuff do)
[00:42] <ikonia> Nath-: as 9.10 is EOL, they get moved to the eOL site
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:43] <jstarcher> why would iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE say  No chain/target/match by that name?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: So you were able to install from the liveCD but on the first boot after installing X failed to start?
[00:43] <machiolate> didn't work, nm
[00:43] <slucidi> I have that same issue with my multigpu (nonsli) nvidia setup.. liveCD works great, actual install segfaults xorg
[00:43] <spacebug-> ActionParsnip: I'm sunning oneiric, just choosed the wring ppa from that site. Sorry
[00:43] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U yep, you nailed it
[00:43] <ikonia> Jordan_U: you have no input rule
[00:43] <ikonia> oops
[00:43] <ikonia> jstarcher: you have no input rule probably
[00:43] <usr13> jstarcher: Not sure....
[00:44] <jstarcher> ikonia: ah I think you're right
[00:44] <jstarcher> what should I add for an input rule?
[00:44] <subman> Is there a fix for really low framerates in OpenGL?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: Very odd. What did happen the first time you tried to boot after installing?
[00:44] <ikonia> depends on your setup and what you want to do, there are some good iptables guides and the channel #netfilter
[00:44] <jstarcher> ikonia: thanks
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: according to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/firefox-8-officially-released/   it will be added to the official repos soon
[00:45] <machiolate> man, i cooked bacon in the oven this morning and the darn grease nearly caught fire, still smells smokey in here
[00:45] <spacebug-> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:45] <usr13> machiolate: Trun the fire down next time.
[00:46] <jstarcher> ikonia: if my input ruleset is empty, does that mean everything is wide open?
[00:46] <spacebug-> tnx ActionParsnip
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> np
[00:46] <ikonia> jstarcher: no, but it means there is nothing to pass through the tables
[00:48] <inashdeen> hi, i need some help. how do i open .deb automatically by gdebi on my ubuntu 11.10. note: i have installed gdebi, i only need to make the deb open automatically on ubuntu
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: right click file, open with, then select the app
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: could just use:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[00:51] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip: thanx
[00:51] <inashdeen> how do i edit keyboard shortcuts on ubuntu 11.10??
[00:52] <krimson_> HI all anyone here familiar with JACKD I am having a heck of a time.. getting it to run?
[00:55] <subman> Maybe I'm missing a setting in the nVidia driver that would improve the OpenGL performance?
[00:55] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U same thing happened. I have been using Linux since the 90's (1996), and X always did this when it couldn't get allong with a pice of GFX hardware
[00:55] <wolfman3k5> Jordan_U I just forgot how to kill X
[00:57] <Jordan_U> wolfman3k5: Same thing being what? You can use the terminal based front end, "sudo jockey-text" to enable the proprietary drivers.
[01:05] <m1ck3y> Hello, I just updated to ubuntu 11.10 and now it won't start. I'm wondering where I should start looking for answers.
[01:05] <Elda> Do you get any messages concerning it's trying to start?
[01:06] <Elda> I suppose from this, you could then search about on the forums
[01:06] <usr13> m1ck3y: What does it do?  Do you get a grub error?
[01:06] <UnconventionalT> Question: Does anybody else get a performance drop when they have the ati graphics drivers installed?
[01:06] <m1ck3y> Elda: I have a dual-booted machine. I start it, GRUB starts and I pick Ubuntu and then it goes to the purple Ubuntu loading screen. That's where it hangs and I can hear my hard drive stop spinning.
[01:07] <OerHeks> UnconventionalT, what ati card do you use ?
[01:07] <usr13> m1ck3y: Does the other OS boot?
[01:07] <m1ck3y> usr13: yep
[01:07] <UnconventionalT> OerHeks: HD 6870.
[01:07] <subman> Can you disable compositing in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:07] <usr13> m1ck3y:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:08] <usr13> m1ck3y: On second thougt, looks like grub has probably done it's job.  Right>?
[01:08] <robin0800> subman, yes if you don't want unity
[01:08] <|Shay|> Trying to get Ubuntu to mount an NTFS Sata drive at boot. I have it mounting by UUID in fstab. If I remove the drive fstab the drive won't mount period. When i boot the computer Ubuntu stands at an error screen stating there are "serious errors" with my drive. I've pulled it out and ran chkdsk on win7 to clean it with the same issue occuring at boot. This wouldn't be a problem if I could always be in front of the PC when I reboot it. Any sugges
[01:09] <Jordan_U> robin0800: Unity2D doesn't require compositing.
[01:09] <subman> robin0800, hmmm, it seems to be really slowing down my opengl performance
[01:09] <m1ck3y> usr13: yeah, grub works fine. Also I tried going into recovery mode( a bit beyond me) but I can get into the terminal with recovery mode and see my files and everything. I just can't get X to start or anything to happen from the default start ubuntu option.
[01:10] <usr13> |Shay|: pastebinit /etc/fstab   &   fdisk -l | pastebinit
[01:10] <robin0800> !nounity | subman
[01:10] <usr13> m1ck3y: aaahhhh, that gives us a bit more to go on.
[01:11] <|Shay|> usr13: Doing so now
[01:11] <m1ck3y> usr13: sorry I forgot to mention that before :) I'm a bit flustered.
[01:11] <inashdeen> hi, how do i add new user to ubuntu oneiric
[01:12] <subman> robin0800, thanks
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: sudo adduser name
[01:12] <rj175> hello, is there any way that I can change my desktop depending on what im doing? for example if im working have a diffrent set of workspaces or if im coding to have another set? I get fed up having 12 workspaces all at once would like to hide some of them
[01:12] <UnconventionalT> Also, how am I expected to change my icon theme in a default ubuntu install?
[01:12] <|Shay|> usr13: fstab PB here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/742830/
[01:13] <|Shay|> usr13: fdisk -l won't list anything
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> UnconventionalT: gnome-tweak-tool can do it
[01:13] <UnconventionalT> ActionParsnip: Is that so? Thank you.
[01:13] <usr13> |Shay|: Change ext4 to auto
[01:14] <usr13> in fstab
[01:14] <|Shay|> usr13: The drive I'm working with is labled BackupDrive. The one labled as "Drive" is mounting without a problem
[01:14] <UnconventionalT> ActionParsnip: Will it break Unity?
[01:14] <joeyeye> how do I start troubleshooting a 11.10 system that occasionally freezes - I have checked syslog but don't see anything
[01:14] <usr13> |Shay|: and  "errors=remount-ro     0     0
[01:14] <usr13> What is that all about?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> UnconventionalT: no, its just an icon theme
[01:14] <ubuntunoob> hey i am having a problem installing stuff with get
[01:14] <ubuntunoob> apt-get *
[01:14] <usr13> "errors=remount-ro"    No
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunoob: what errors do you get?
[01:15] <usr13> maybe change that part to:    auto,users,rw
[01:15] <|Shay|> usr13: May I pm instead?
[01:15] <ubuntunoob> every time i try to install something, even if i say yes it still aborts
[01:15] <usr13> maybe change that part to:    auto,users,ro
[01:15] <deri> hmm
[01:15] <usr13> Yes
[01:15] <konam> does anyone knows where can i get a repository with eclipse 3.7
[01:15] <konam> ?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunoob: can you pastebin the command and all outpuuted text, thanks
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | konam
[01:16] <ubuntunoob> yes i can
[01:17] <ubuntunoob> parsnip: http://pastebin.com/n4Uc9FAn
[01:17] <chroot> hi, does quem support arm cpu?
[01:18] <konam> ActionParsnip i know about ppa but i don't know a specific ppa for those packages
[01:18] <itaylor57> konam, look at this link , it gives you options on how to install eclipse https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[01:18] <itaylor57> konam, I am runing 3.7.1
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> konam: the link lets you search the ppas, you may find one. thats why i triggered ubottu
[01:19] <tompa> is this the channel to be in if u are searching for help? Linux Mint had a pre-set channel for helping in  xchat
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[01:19] <Jordan_U> tompa: This is the place to be for Ubuntu support (*not* for Mint support though).
[01:20] <jstarcher> why would  iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE say No chain/target/match by that name?
[01:20] <bromichaelhenry> hello, does the ubuntu kernel support linux-abi?
[01:20] <tompa> yea im using Ubuntu ,just came from Mint :)
[01:20] <ubuntunoob> nvm
[01:20] <tompa> Jordan_u thx
[01:20] <ubuntunoob> its working now for some reason
[01:20] <joeyeye> how do I start troubleshooting a 11.10 system that occasionally freezes - I have checked syslog but don't see anything
[01:21] <Jordan_U> tompa: You're welcome.
[01:21] <ubuntunoob> thanks anyway :D
[01:22] <konam> itaylor57 it says that 3.7 is available on 10.10 and yet i don't see it on synaptic, even tho i have all the repositories in universe available :S
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> joeyeye: is ram healthy?
[01:24] <joeyeye> ActionParsnip, AFAIK ram is OK - it is a new system. Would I run memtest ? I have 16GB RAM.
[01:26] <tompa> Im having a problem with youtube. My youtube video-window is smaller than it should be, I do not have a "maximize screen" button and its not working to watch the video 9/10 times. It looks like my computer think that the actual youtube page is a link as in facebook, with smaller layout. How do I fix this?
[01:26] <tompa> link: http://imageshack.us/f/28/screenshotat20111119015.png/
[01:26] <itaylor57> konam, did you run sudo apt-get update after making universe available?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> joeyeye: when its convenient (overnight) I would
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> tompa: does it happen in all browsers?
[01:27] <konam> itaylor57 yea, of course
[01:27] <tompa> ActionParsnip yes, atleast firefox and chrome
[01:28] <keltus> I installed ubuntu server on my computer, but to access the internet I need to log in via a web form (due to our school's network policy). but I don't have lynx-cur or links installed on it, so can't authenticate. is there a way I can install those from the ubuntu cd instead?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> tompa: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'       thanks
[01:29] <Elda> !unity Elda
[01:29] <Elda> Hmm
[01:30] <Elda> !unity
[01:30] <itaylor57> konam, don't know then I am on 11.10 and 3.7 shows in the repo for me
[01:30] <tompa> actionparsnip what is a pastebin? :P never heard of, sry
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[01:30] <konam> itaylor57 ok, thanks for the help, i will go with the 3.5.2 then, there really won't be much difference for me :)
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> tompa: run the command I gave and go to the site, paste the text there and hit paste, when the page changes, copy the address bar and paste here
[01:33] <bromichaelhenry> hello guys, I'm trying to run an older sco unix program under linux. my question is does the ubuntu kernel support linux-abi compatibility mode?
[01:33] <tensorpudding> you'd have to check the linux kernel package configuration
[01:34] <tompa> actionparsnip okey i think i made it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/742844/
[01:34] <Guest87318> anyone know how to get rid of the unity taskbar and put a more classic one in? or should I look at getting an earlier distro? I like the aspect of being able to hit the tab key to get an instant program search; but i can't seem to make it work with compiz desktop cube; which i really like alot... any advice out there?
[01:34] <itaylor57> !eclipse maverick > itaylor57
[01:35] <Guest87318> (windows key, not tab key :)
[01:35] <robin0800> !nounity | Guest87318
[01:35] <tompa> actionparsnip did u get the text?
[01:36] <kenalex> hello
[01:36] <GridCube> i was using a program that changed my samba shares password, but it changed my sudo password somehow, and now i can't change it back because i don't know what it is!!! D:
[01:36] <Guest87318> thanks robin0800
[01:36] <kenalex> what is a good laptop brand that supports ubuntu
[01:36] <GridCube> how can i reset it? :(
[01:36] <bromichaelhenry> @tensorpudding, how would I go about checking the linux kernel package configuration?
[01:36] <tensorpudding> bromichaelhenry, you can download the source package
[01:37] <bromichaelhenry> basically recompilt the kernel?
[01:37] <bromichaelhenry> *recompile
[01:37] <tensorpudding> brodolph, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/linux-image
[01:37] <tensorpudding> sorry
[01:37] <tensorpudding> bromichaelhenry, ^
[01:38] <bromichaelhenry> Lol
[01:38] <tensorpudding> pick the one you use
[01:38] <urlin2u> kenalex, hard to say system 76 has laptops with ubuntu installed.
[01:39] <tensorpudding> then you'll have to trudge around to see what make config it uses, i suppose
[01:40] <urlin2u> kenalex, ubuntu and linux is in general will run on just about any most of the time, you would really look for the boards and cards not covered really.
[01:42] <UnconventionalT> I accidentally pressed crtl-alt-f2. Now what?
[01:42] <tompa> aight, I think ActionParsnip left :(
[01:42] <tompa> Im having a problem with youtube. My youtube video-window is smaller than it should be, I do not have a "maximize screen" button and its not working to watch the video 9/10 times. It looks like my computer think that the actual youtube page is a link as in facebook, with smaller layout. How do I fix this?
[01:43] <tompa> screenshot: http://imageshack.us/f/28/screenshotat20111119015.png/
[01:43] <tompa> its the same problem in all browsers
[01:43] <UnconventionalT> Or in other words, how do I restart my xserver?
[01:44] <usr13> tompa: Do they all look that way?
[01:44] <usr13> tompa: How about in FF?
[01:44] <tompa> user13 it looks the same in all browsers, and all videos
[01:45] <nathansuchy_> hi
[01:45] <nathansuchy_> i learned a few new tricks
[01:45] <UnconventionalT> Nevermind, startx won't work, since it's still there
[01:46] <nathansuchy_> my computer got hacked a few days ago
[01:47] <usr13> tompa: Is your system fully updated?
[01:47] <usr13> tompa: I think it is a function of youtube.
[01:47] <tompa> usr13 yes :S
[01:48] <usr13> tompa: I do not think there is anything wrong with your system.
[01:49] <machiolate> where are most program files usually kept in linux?
[01:49] <usr13> tompa: YOu could download the video and see what size it really is if you want, but other than that, I don't think there is anything to fix.  Probably just showing the videos in their actual sizes.
[01:49] <usr13> machiolate: /usr/  or /var/lib/  or /opt  just depends.
[01:49] <tensorpudding> machiolate, binaries (the part you run) go in /usr/bin
[01:50] <usr13> machiolate: What do you need?
[01:50] <tensorpudding> machiolate, /usr/share contains a lot of extra files related to programs
[01:50] <machiolate> im looking for xchat .conf files actually
[01:50] <roxdragon> hi all i can use espeak with input microphone?
[01:50] <usr13> machiolate: Most config files are in /etc/
[01:51] <tompa> usr13 okey... i can change quality but then it freezes
[01:51] <tensorpudding> machiolate, configuration files end up in /etc, but user-specific configuration is in ~/.config/
[01:51] <machiolate> ahh, so in linux not all of a programs files would go to one place, got it
[01:51] <tensorpudding> for xchat ,maybe in ~/.xchat2/
[01:51] <tensorpudding> you should configure xchat using the configuration stuff that xchat provides
[01:51] <usr13> tompa: That is an issue between youtube and adobe flashplayer, (or which ever streaming source and which ever flashplayer)
[01:52] <tensorpudding> editing files could leave the config in an unusable state
[01:52] <tompa> usr13 i do u think it could work - reinstalling flash?
[01:52] <usr13> machiolate: What do you need to do?
[01:52] <usr13> tompa: I doubt it.
[01:52] <usr13> tompa: Which flash player do you have installed now?
[01:53] <usr13> adobe?
[01:53] <machiolate> I've found it thanks, was just trying to mess with xchat .conf files to change my colors/settings
[01:53] <tompa> usr13 10,3,181,34
[01:53] <usr13> tompa: adobe?
[01:54] <tompa> usr13 i think so, i looked it up from a google hit. It said i had that version
[01:55] <tompa> usr13 i installed the plugins for flash today as i installed ubuntu a moment before
[01:55] <usr13> that is probably new enough.  Again, the flash player you have is prolly just viewing the videos in the size they are sent.  I do not think there is anything wrong with your system.
[01:56] <worrow> need some direction to speedup xubuntu performance
[01:56] <usr13> worrow: turn off X
[01:56] <marsfligth> !classic
[01:56] <worrow> removing start-ups and unnecessary services
[01:56] <worrow> how do I turn off X?
[01:56] <usr13> worrow: sudo gdm stop
[01:57] <felipe_Brz> the default terminal in ubuntu is alittle bit transparent (= not opaque) I think that messes a little bit with the vim colour themes I want to use, is that possible? if so, is there a way to remove all transparency from the terminal?
[01:58] <worrow> where do I even find terminal in xubuntu?
[01:58] <E|FM12> !nounity
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> worrow: press CTRL+ALT+T
[01:59] <usr13> worrow: There is an icon for it at bottom of screen if memory serves.
[01:59] <urlin2u> felipe_, yes the prefernecs is in the top window bar.
[01:59] <worrow> sudo gdm does not exist
[01:59] <worrow> i removed 2nd taskbar
[01:59] <usr13> worrow: But you already have a lean system.  That is what xubuntu is all about.
[02:00] <worrow> I need it to be speedy like peppermint was
[02:00] <worrow> I have low resources
[02:00] <usr13_> worrow: service --status-all
[02:00] <urlin2u> worrow, if you need a ubuntu platform lubuntu is lighter still
[02:01] <worrow> lubuntu install failed so I came to xubuntu
[02:01] <worrow> Was using peppermint but suffered graphic issues rebooting all the time
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> worrow: Lubuntu is even lower :)
[02:01] <usr13_> urlin2u: xubuntu uses xfce and that is pretty darn light weight.
[02:01] <askhader> ActionParsnip: sexubuntu for all your pornoraphic needs
[02:01] <askhader> pornographic too
[02:02] <worrow> Lubuntu install failed. read previous
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> or even just openbox, no DE
[02:02] <usr13_> Yea, openbox
[02:02] <urlin2u> usr13, just stating the facts.
[02:02] <worrow> i only have xfce or ubuntu for sessions.
[02:02] <usr13_> urlin2u: I understand....
[02:02] <marsfligth> !notunity
[02:02] <tompa> should i choose downloading adobe flashplayer 11 for : ubuntu (.apt), linux (rpm) 64bit, linux (.tar.gz) 64bit, linux (YUM) 64bit? Im using ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[02:03] <usr13_> tompa: Sure.  Go for it.
[02:03] <tompa> which one?
[02:03] <tompa> 4 different :)
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> tompa: enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[02:03] <usr13_> YOur OS is Ubuntu.  Right?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> tompa: it will even install 64bit flash if you have 64bit OS
[02:04] <usr13_> tompa: ubuntu (.apt)
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> using the repo gets you updates when the repo gets updated
[02:05] <tompa> actionparsnip, sounds good where can i enable "repo"?
[02:05] <usr13_> tompa: Yes, as ActionParsnip states, if you use the package management system, you will get auto-updates.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> tompa: in software centre
[02:05]  * ErisMonk wishes gnome-shell would work on his laptop :'(
[02:08] <sup> sup
[02:08] <poopi> EVening
[02:09] <poopi> I am trying to uncheck "Allow EXECUTING FILE SYSTEM" but when I uncheck it it automatically unchecks itself and prevents me from checking the box
[02:10] <sup> anyone available to reach out a helping hand?
[02:11] <usr13_> sure
[02:11] <Jordan_U> poopi: We need more context than that. Where are you seeing this option?
[02:11] <poopi> right clicking the exe file
[02:11] <poopi> seelcting properties
[02:11] <usr13_> poopi: Do you have wine installed?
[02:11] <poopi> Yes
[02:12] <usr13_> poopi: Well, you should be good to go then.  But just depends on what type of file it is and what it does or is supposed to do.
[02:12] <Jordan_U> poopi: Are you sure that the option isn't "Allow executing file as program"?
[02:12] <tompa> I think it works as it should now, i did first try search for adobe flash in software manage but could find it (must have spelled wrong or something) ... thank you!
[02:12] <usr13_> poopi: Someone once told me that coupters will do exactly what you tell them to, but just not always what you want them to do.
[02:13] <poopi> Jordan_U: your right
[02:13] <tompa> now i found it and installed it*
[02:13] <poopi> my mistake :)
[02:14] <Jordan_U> poopi: What filesystem is this file on? (ext4, ntfs, fat32)
[02:14] <poopi> ntfs
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> tompa: try:  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[02:16] <usr13> tompa: You should see it in the software centre
[02:17] <poopi> when I open with wine it says
[02:17] <poopi>  is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[02:17] <Jordan_U> poopi: The problem is that ntfs has no concept of an execute bit. It's impossible to set an individual file as executable on an ntfs filesystem.
[02:17] <_needhelp> s
[02:17] <usr13> tompa: In the search box, type:  adobe
[02:18] <Jordan_U> poopi: Easiest thing to do is to copy it to your Ubuntu partition, set it as executable, and run it from there.
[02:18] <poopi> ok
[02:19] <zykotick9> poopi, if you use wine from cli -- "wine /path/tontfs/foo.exe" it won't bother with permissions
[02:19] <poopi> ok I iwll try that
[02:19] <fosburg> I have been playing with 'Linux' and 'Ubuntu' on an old pc for a few months.  Now I want to buy a workstation to do video and 3d modeling. Any suggestions?
[02:20] <Blue_> #pandaboard
[02:20] <_needhelp> Installation of  libfreetype6-dev failed! Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.3.11-1ubuntu2) but 2.3.11-1ubuntu2.4 is to be installed
[02:21] <josefig> hello, why when I try to open with the ubuntu search the gvim is not working? and when I try on console works
[02:21] <josefig> the dash home, I mean
[02:21] <mvv_> fosburg: well, make your own.
[02:23] <fosburg> I would or have one built.  I'm looking for suggestions of what to put into the box.
[02:24] <leo2007> How to fix this error while starting rhino "Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/invoke/MethodHandle"?
[02:29] <|Slacker|> any ideas when firefox will be upgraded to 8?
[02:30] <Flynsarmy> I insatlled 11.10 on a dell xps 15z (nvidia optimus) by setting acpi=off however after installation, the machine rebooted and I get the black screen again. I assume I need to add acpi=off into the grub boot loader but am not sure how. any ideas?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: hold shift at boot and you can hit E to edit the kernel for one boot
[02:31] <tntc> Flynsarmy: edit /etc/default/grub, add it to the options (after quiet and the other stuff), and then run update-grub for a permanant solution
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: yea i'm in there now. I wasn't sure which line I needed to add acpi=off to
[02:33] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: the end of the linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0.12-generic line? the initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic line? its own line?
[02:39] <Flynsarmy> OK, seems it goes at the end of the linux /boot line
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: however the: quiet splash   is, copy that style, could put it in that line too :)
[02:42] <microm> how should I go about installing the latest boost libraries (1.48)? I only see 1.42 being offered in the package manager.
[02:45] <cruss4der023> test
[02:46] <microm> cruss4der023: was that for me?
[02:47] <donmecca10> Can anyone help me install java on my alternative flavour of ubuntu
[02:49] <tensorpudding> donmecca10, this channel is for support of ubuntu, not ubuntu derivatives
[02:49] <donmecca10> tensorpudding: where should i go to install java on my ubuntu system
[02:50] <tensorpudding> !java
[02:50] <tensorpudding> you want a JDK if you want to compile and run java programs
[02:50] <tensorpudding> OpenJDK is the default
[02:50] <aruncn1> problem with smplayer. trying to reinstall freshly,but not working,although i have installed,can some one help me
[02:50] <tensorpudding> it's nice and free, and supported by Oracle
[02:52] <donmecca10> tensorpudding: thank you!
[02:54] <tensorpudding> that site lies
[02:54] <tensorpudding> OpenJDK 7 will be the reference implementation of Java 7
[02:54] <tensorpudding> says Oracle
[02:59] <buntu> Hey all, how do i install grub if there is no /boot/grub/stage1 file to begin with?
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> buntu: you might have grub 2. use grub-install -v to find out
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> buntu: if so, th efile youre after is /etc/default/grub
[03:00] <buntu> yes i have those files
[03:00] <buntu> lol how do install grub2 to on dmraid
[03:01] <aussie_matt> Hi guys, I currently have XP and mandriva dual booting, I wish to install ubuntu alongside these two, will it be hard to configure so that I can triple boot?
[03:02] <buntu> aussie_matt, i would say pretty easy if you have a free partiotn to install it to
[03:02] <fritolay> It should be just as hard as setting up a dual boot
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: can I PM you please dude?
[03:03] <tensorpudding> uh, why
[03:03] <Swian> he likes you
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: just want you to test something if I may impose on you
[03:04] <Swian> see
[03:04] <tensorpudding> 'k
[03:04] <aussie_matt> ubuntu: i have several partitions, took a while to get a mandy install that read my raid array properly, but the live ubuntu did no problems, i just wanna make sure the boot loader is easily configured, although i cant see it being a problem, just wanted to be sure
[03:06] <buntu> tell you the truth i'm having problems with grub and my dmraid array
[03:07] <aussie_matt> buntu: oh dear...my problem was i bought the latest motherboard and had to wait for drivers :(
[03:08] <buntu> just amd 800 onboard for me
[03:09] <l1t> Whats the best way to install Ubuntu(on the entire drive preferably) if you do not have access to CD, USB Floppy?
[03:10] <aussie_matt> buntu: i haven't kept pace with that stuff sorry, mines a p5q so quite old now :( only some e2200 i think
[03:10] <linuxuz3r> hey
[03:10] <Darrow> Dumb question, how do I add/change workspaces on Unity now?
[03:10] <arkaniad> l1t: PXE install, if you have a spare linux computer.
[03:11] <buntu> o it works cant get grub into the MBR
[03:11] <arkaniad> l1t: And a supporting network card... guess it's a little more complex.
[03:11] <Darrow> I can't find the equivalent of workspace switcher in GNOME.
[03:11] <arkaniad> l1t: You could always stick the drive in another computer and write the ISO to the drive then use the rest of the disk.
[03:12] <tarvid> "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: only root can mount /dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom"
[03:12] <tarvid> 11.10
[03:12] <tarvid> is it a bug?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> tarvid: you need to prefix with sudo
[03:13] <tarvid> It fails on automount
[03:13] <tarvid> That wom't work
[03:13] <elite_> how do you create your own irc channel
[03:14] <kermit> elite_: type: /join #name
[03:14] <tarvid> elite_,  /join #yourownircchannel
[03:15] <elite_> ok let me try  it
[03:15] <tarvid> which package contains "automount"
[03:16] <cattune> g'day....i set thunderbird up on the previous boot,changed preferences,but upon rebooting all has returned to scratch - is there a global save button i should have used or is this a user account issue?.....my understanding of the whole user account theme is deficient i fear....
[03:17] <l1t> arkaniad: K Yeah I have a laptop running ubuntu. Ok Ill look into it thanks. And yeah I tried popping the harddrive into another compb but nobody I know has a computer that has hardware compatible with this oldschool drive
[03:17] <cablop> i have a server and we want for its disk to be encrypted
[03:17] <marsfligth> I'd like to change the defaut name 'Desktop' to 'desktop' but i'm afraid to make a disaster. Do you know what consegences this change should have to the system?
[03:17] <cablop> but we want to be able to boot it via network, because it is headless
[03:17] <cablop> any idea?
[03:18] <l1t> arkaniad: Can't I just technicaly install ubuntu as a live cd onto the ahrddrive with unetbootin then just click the little install icon and install it to the whol drive ? lol
[03:18] <The_Regurgitator> The regurgitator has come again.
[03:18] <donmecca10> can anyone help me hook up a television as my monitor
[03:18] <jeffserver> does it have a vga inputt?
[03:18] <jeffserver> donmecca^
[03:19] <acore_27> hola
[03:19] <donmecca10> yeah im going from vga (my comp) to hdmi1 jeffserver
[03:19] <acore_27> algun latino
[03:20] <donmecca10> acore_27 que tal?
[03:20] <jeffserver> your computer needs a vga input or if your computer has an hdmi output you can do that as well
[03:20] <Doodie> hi, I am using Radeon HD 6470M on my lenovo. I cannot change the screen resolution. I installed the driver but it seems not working. help please?l. Any
[03:21] <cablop> Doodie: use the ati radeon driver from the repos and not the one it is suggesting you
[03:21] <cablop> the gflrx or whatever, don't use it,
[03:21] <donmecca10> jeffserver: i have vga output and the tv has hdmi1
[03:21] <Doodie> cablop, ya i was using the gflrx. I will try with the repos now. thanks
[03:21] <donmecca10> acore_27 hay un canal espanol
[03:22] <acore_27> pasame el lik
[03:22] <cablop> Doodie: the repos auto detect and use a radeon driver, this is the best
[03:22] <The_Regurgitator> donmecca10: do you have an adapter
[03:22] <jeffserver> donmecca10: you wont be able to connect it
[03:22] <acore_27> hola
[03:22] <donmecca10> the_regurgitator yes
[03:23] <jeffserver> vga to hdmi?
 cual es el canal español
[03:23] <donmecca10> acore_27 no se como es algo asi como ubuntu_es
[03:23] <itaylor57> !es | acore_27
[03:23] <acore_27> ok
[03:23] <jeffserver> woo
[03:24] <donmecca10> jeffserver why not my comp detects it
[03:24] <donmecca10> does anyone know the spanish chanel?
[03:24] <acore_27> esta vacio   #ubuntu .es
[03:24] <jeffserver> wo
[03:26] <donmecca10> The_regurgitator yes i do
[03:26] <Artemis3> acore_27, #ubuntu-es
[03:26] <The_Regurgitator> donmecca10: what kind
[03:26] <The_Regurgitator> vga to hdmi
[03:27] <acore_27> ok gracias
[03:27] <acore_27> ya entre
[03:27] <donmecca10> vga to hdmi
[03:27] <donmecca10> The_regurgitator vga to hdmi
[03:28] <The_Regurgitator> donmecca10: what is not working
[03:29] <almoxarife> donmecca10: the problem will not be ubuntu, ubuntu>vga>mystery???>hdmi>tv
[03:29] <The_Regurgitator> with the adaptor
[03:29] <donmecca10> The_regurgitator when I "fn" "F8" it does not show up on my tv
[03:30] <donmecca10> almoxarife i dont understand what is the issue then
[03:30] <The_Regurgitator> donmecca10: did you try the monitor settings in the menu
[03:30] <almoxarife> donmecca10: does the vga work on a typical monitor?
[03:31] <donmecca10> The_regurgitator yes and the computer detects the tv screen
[03:31] <donmecca10> almoxarife on the laptop monitor yes
[03:31] <almoxarife> donmecca10: may I suggest getting a 'hdmi card'
[03:32] <donmecca10> almoxarife ok
[03:32] <mafiaboy> testing :P
[03:32] <almoxarife> donmecca10: that proves you have vga going out to the mystery device
[03:33] <The_Regurgitator> donmecca10: can you turn on the screen separately from the laptop
[03:33] <almoxarife> donmecca10: I had the same issue you have, don't waste money on gadgets, get a 'card'
[03:33] <gemunu> what is temp 1 in Gnome sensors applet?
[03:34] <almoxarife> gemunu: cpu? check the settings?
[03:35] <wolfman3k5> I want to install rkroothunter, but apt-get wants to install postfix as well with it. Why?
[03:35] <gemunu> there is a  separate one for CPU in acpi.
[03:35] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: because it's a dependancy?
[03:36] <The_Regurgitator> Il est dix heures trente-six
[03:36] <gemunu> almoxarife: there is a  separate one for CPU in acpi. How can I check the settings?
[03:36] <wolfman3k5> almoxarife and you just always install blindly what apt wants you to install without questioning the logic of it? do you even know what rkhunter is?
[03:37] <donmecca10> the_regurgitator yes the tv works independently but it will not display what is on my computer
[03:37] <almoxarife> gemunu: the applet should have a settings menu
[03:37] <MythGuy> Hello. Could I get some help with setting up multiple displays on my ubuntu 11.10 install? I'm trying to run a 1920x1080 on HDMI and a 1600x900 on DVI. It keeps telling me that there's a maximum size of 1920x1920 though.
[03:37] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: no, I just don't install when I don't know
[03:38] <The_Regurgitator> check the monitors in gnomenu
[03:38] <The_Regurgitator> *gnome menu
[03:38] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: yes, looks for rootkits, there are a few of them, played with them, got bored
[03:38] <wolfman3k5> almoxarife rkhunter is "RootKit Hunter". I am installing a server right now. I can't figure out for the life of me why it wants postfix installed
[03:39] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: I wouldn't normally suggest this, google it?
[03:40] <wolfman3k5> almoxarife I did google it, couldn't find anything decent on the subject, just a bunch of other people wondering the same thing
[03:40] <MythGuy> the_regurgitator: How do I do that?
[03:41] <almoxarife> http://www.postfix.org/ <-- wolfman3k5, I am guessing it wants to email you?
[03:41] <linuxuz3r> guys
[03:41] <OerHeks> ah postfix for report
[03:42] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: I wonder if rkhunter sends email when it finds something worthwhile?
[03:42] <The_Regurgitator> mythguy: System>Preferences>Monitors
[03:42] <linuxuz3r> when i shutdown ubuntu and poweron my computer my bios settings fails to boot on post
 that's kind of .... stupid? what are logfiles for?
[03:42] <linuxuz3r> can someone help me
[03:42] <elite499> yea what you nned
[03:42] <elite499> need
[03:43] <The_Regurgitator> IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAR ........BAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH (signal lost)
[03:43] <almoxarife> wolfman3k5: logfiles are for logging?
[03:43] <wolfman3k5> linuxuz3r GOD can help you for sure
[03:43] <r0gue> I am clicking on a "Uninstall Wine Software" in the wine menu but the window just does not seem to open, any clues?
[03:43] <wolfman3k5> almoxarife I see your point... so rkhunter will send out an email saying: hey sucker, you have just been rooted...! best of luck!
[03:44] <elite499> have you reboot?
[03:44] <wolfman3k5> r0gue Yes! Use Windows for Windows Software!
[03:44] <elite499> or uninstall through terminal
[03:45] <wolfman3k5> r0gue VMware Player for Linux is Free, just run an instance of Windows in a virtual machine
[03:45] <r0gue> funny but i want to use ubuntu
[03:45] <wolfman3k5> r0gue VMware Player for Linux is Free, just run an instance of Windows in a virtual machine
[03:45] <elite499> install it on another partition
[03:45] <wolfman3k5> r0gue and you will run Windows under Ubuntu
[03:45] <r0gue> wolfman3k5 i use windows on a seperate partiton lol
[03:45] <wolfman3k5> r0gue Wine for Linux has always sucked, it can never keep up with the Microsoft API because Microsoft doesn't want, it's a loosing cause
[03:46] <seawookie>  BILL GATES
[03:46] <elite499> STEVE JOBS
[03:46] <elite499> screw apple
[03:46] <wolfman3k5> r0gue first time I used Wine was 1997, last time it was 2003, I gave up on it a long time ago and just use Windows for Windows Software
[03:46] <seawookie> wine is a very finicky software
[03:46] <elite499> why are you trying to use wine anyway
[03:47] <seawookie> what are you trying to run with it?
[03:47] <wolfman3k5> elite499 he's probably trying to play World of Warcraft
[03:47] <tensorpudding> wine will run many things fine
[03:47] <elite499> lolo
[03:47] <seawookie> LOLZ
[03:47] <tensorpudding> and run more things badly, and some not at all
[03:47] <seawookie> yea its really up to chance sometimes
[03:47] <psychx-> Is there any kind of software that I can use to record my desktop to show someone how to do something? like to make it a video to post to youtube?
[03:47] <r0gue> but the uninstall wine window is not opening even after clicking on it several times
[03:47] <elite499> www.blackouttech.net
[03:47] <elite499> JOIN
[03:47] <tensorpudding> always check the wine appdb for compatibility and expect the worst
[03:47] <elite499> NOW
[03:47] <FloodBot1> elite499: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:48] <OerHeks> recordmydesktop in synaptic ?
[03:48] <tensorpudding> elite499, don't spam links
[03:48] <almoxarife> psychx-: vlc
[03:48] <elite499> ima rape u
[03:48] <elite499> :)
[03:48] <psychx-> vlc will record?
[03:48] <tensorpudding> not funny
[03:48] <elite499> you dont like?
[03:48] <almoxarife> psychx-: yes
[03:48] <wolfman3k5> any of you Remember Transgaming? They used to charge like $20/month for their shitty service, I had a subscription there to. I even purchased Wine Pro or what ever it was called. You add all of that up and you realize that Windows is cheaper
[03:48] <tensorpudding> !guidelines
[03:48] <psychx-> i did not know that, thank you almoxarife
[03:48] <elite499> fudge pudding?
[03:48] <tensorpudding> please read the guidelines
[03:48] <tensorpudding> and act according to them
[03:49] <elite499> please excuse my friend seawookie
[03:49] <seawookie> please excuse my dear aunt sally
[03:49] <ddilinger> nvidia binary + unity + dualscreen + one rotated monitor: anyone know of issues?  If i load metacity+xterm as my X session the second screen is perfect, but if i load unity 2d (because i'm using xinerama) the second screen gets the same output as the first(although the mouse still goes off the edge onto second screen)
[03:49] <wolfman3k5> please excuse my cat Lamb Chop
[03:49] <elite499> lamb chop is excused
[03:49] <linuxuz3r> how do you fix bios resets after ubuntu shutsdown
[03:49] <seawookie> listen guys
[03:49] <wolfman3k5> elite499 I really have a cat named Lamb Chop, 12 weeks old
[03:49] <seawookie> we're no strangers to love
[03:50] <elite499> lol i have a cat name slicky bear
[03:50] <seawookie> you know the rules and so do oi
[03:50] <seawookie> full commitment is what im looking for
[03:50] <almoxarife> how does one call in a op to clean house?
[03:50] <seawookie> you wont get this from any other guy
[03:50] <tensorpudding> seawookie, stop that
[03:51] <aeon-ltd> !ops
[03:51] <seawookie> but...im never gonna give you up...
[03:51] <almoxarife> aeon-ltd: thnks
[03:51] <elite499> hey michael moorman
[03:51] <Pilif12p> seawookie: knock it off
[03:51] <OerHeks> !ot | seawookie elite499
[03:52] <elite499> i have a question
[03:52] <Pilif12p> elite49: What is your question?
[03:52] <r0gue> but the uninstall wine window is not opening even after clicking on it several times
[03:52] <elite499> how do i install ubuntu
[03:52] <ddilinger> anyone use unity 2d dualscreen xinerama with one rotated monitor?  My X config works perfect with metacity, but when loading unity 2d the first screen gets displayed on the second(but only when the second is rotated)
[03:52] <jademonkey> Do you have the media elite?
[03:53] <elite499> yeah just downloaded it
[03:53] <r0gue> elite499 you can install ubuntu from flash drive or cd
[03:53] <wolfman3k5> elite499 are you serious about the cat?
[03:53] <elite499> i know i was just seeing how knowledgeable you guys were
[03:53] <jademonkey> Have you burned the iso to a CD?
[03:53] <elite499> but your a bunch of help
[03:53] <elite499> :)
[03:53] <elite499> yeah im actually thinking of installing on another machine
[03:53] <elite499> maybe 11.04 instead of lts
[03:54] <seawookie> what is the best firewall service to use?
[03:54] <wolfman3k5> Ubuntu and Debian are the best distros. Debian is like Mr. Miagy and Ubuntu is like the young Karate Kid
[03:54] <elite499> do you prefer the LTS or newer version
[03:54] <r0gue> elite499 DONT COME TO IRC TO TEST OTHER PEOPLE FOR SAKE OF FUN
[03:54] <seawookie> LTS for sure
[03:54] <wolfman3k5> elite499 are you installing on a server?
[03:54] <elite499> i agree with wolfman
[03:54] <HackNewton> anyone knows similar software to SunBird for Ubuntu?
[03:54] <linuxuz3r> how do you fix bios resets after ubuntu shutsdown???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[03:54] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[03:54] <elite499> yeah i have a server running ubuntu server lts
[03:54] <linuxuz3r> got stuck
[03:54] <elite499> r0gue...
[03:55] <abe> HackNewton: do u mean that calandar thingy from mozilla?
[03:55] <HackNewton> yes
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: how do you mean BIOS resets?
[03:55] <wolfman3k5> elite499 I'm installing 11.10 on a brand new server right now on Linode. I need decent NGINX suppor badly, and 11.10 has it
[03:55] <r0gue> elite499 chill but ask genuine questions lol
[03:55] <fhtagn> linuxuz3r: i also have that, sometimes. Asus Netbook 1201N
[03:55] <seawookie> anybody? good firewall?
[03:55] <elite499> lol <3
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> wolfman3k5: they have thier place, other distros will excel in other situations :)
[03:55] <wolfman3k5> elite499 right out of the box
[03:55] <abe> HackNewton: I found that the lightning addon for thunderbird v similar
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | seawookie
[03:55] <wolfman3k5> seawookie ufw
[03:55] <elite499> oh very nice wolfman
[03:55] <r0gue> linuxuz3r just remove the battery or short the pins lol
[03:55] <elite499> ive been setting mine up for a while now
[03:56] <wolfman3k5> seawookie ufw firewall - just apt-get install ufw
[03:56] <elite499> i installed ubuntu desktop as well
[03:56] <seawookie> i have ufw
[03:56] <elite499> ufw ftw
[03:56] <seawookie> i was just wondering if there are any other better ones?
[03:56] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, when i shutdown ubuntu and turn on my computer again it failes to boot on post so now the settings on my bios is screwed up
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> its all just a gui for iptables....
[03:56] <wolfman3k5> elite499 for desktop Bleeding Edge all the way:)
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: is the motherboard old(ish)
[03:56] <elite499> wooo hooo :)
[03:56] <wolfman3k5> ActionParsnip ufw is actually a complete firewall solution
[03:56] <elite499> i like it
[03:57] <r0gue> linuxuz3r do you get cmos error?
[03:57] <linuxuz3r> nope
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> wolfman3k5: I see, I've always let my router do it :)
[03:57] <linuxuz3r> but i cant get past post the system reboots so now the bios is reset
[03:57] <r0gue> you should load fail safe default and what about time? is it in sync?
[03:57] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, i got it around 2008
[03:58] <wolfman3k5> ActionParsnip well, I agree, but if your server is out there in a data center God knows where, then you need to configure your firewall by hand to get best results
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: is the BIOS reset jumper set to clear?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> wolfman3k5: of for sure :)
[03:58] <OerHeks> linuxuz3r, sonds like battery dead, does not hold your bootselections ?
[03:58] <jademonkey> In actuality the Linux default firewall is call Netfilter and it is managed by iptables via terminal. If you insist of a GUI Ubuntu has a default one but I know people that have had great success with Firestarter
[03:58] <elite499> wolf i added u to friends
[03:59] <wolfman3k5> ActionParsnip even then you can get rooted if there is a vulnerability in one of the common services that are open to the internet like the Web Server (apache or what ever), smtp, imap, pop3, etc.
[03:59] <jademonkey> But all those GUIs are front ends for iptables.
[03:59] <wolfman3k5> yes they are
[03:59] <wolfman3k5> but I wouldn't configure iptables by hand
[03:59] <wolfman3k5> yuck
[03:59] <seawookie> wait
[03:59] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, i did not play with the bios jumper
[03:59] <seawookie> is uf iptables?
[03:59] <linuxuz3r> so i dont know
[03:59] <seawookie> ufw*
[04:00] <wolfman3k5> seawookie just install it... here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[04:00] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, can i pass no acpi in there so it would work?
[04:01] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, it does not reset the bios per se but instead it fails to boot to post because on the post page it reboots which screws up my bios settings
[04:03] <bullgard4> For most commands I can use the prefix »LANG=C« to obtain output not in my native language but in English. How can I obtain output in English for manpages, for example for 'man update-alternatives'?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: could try the noacpi, it can't hurt
[04:04] <ankur> I have HP Deskjet F2235, a MFD. The printing and scanning functionality were both working fine when I was using Ubuntu 11.04. Then I switched to lubuntu 11.10. And now 'Simple Scan' doesn't detect my scanner anymore. Please help!
[04:05] <psychx-> I am trying to use VLC to record my desktop... but I can't figure out how. The whole past 5 minutes I thought I was recording, but I don't think it was.
[04:05] <psychx-> Can someone help me?
[04:06] <elite499> sorry psychx ive never used it
[04:06] <Doodie> I am unalble to change my screen resolution. it shows only 1024x768. Xrandr shows my min and max is only that value. how can I change my resolution?
[04:06] <psychx-> do you know of a certain software to use that is easy?
[04:06] <elite499> to record your desktop?
[04:06] <psychx-> yes
[04:07] <elite499> i use camtasia studios
[04:07] <psychx-> is it free?
[04:07] <elite499> try camstudio
[04:07] <elite499> its an opensource
[04:08] <QuikNik> hey guys, anybody know a way or utility thaat I can use to image my old 5400rpm sata drive to an external drive .. so that I can then image it back to my newer SSD? it's a laptop and I don't have the utilities to have them both in at once
[04:08] <elite499> your trying to do what?
[04:08] <Doodie> any help  for my unchangble screen resolution ?
[04:08] <elite499> use an old hdd as external?
[04:09] <elite499> doodie what graphics card you running?
[04:09] <QuikNik> no sorry, store an image of my current 5400rpm drive on an external drive? so that I can then image it to a new drive
[04:09] <QuikNik> keeping the same install/data
[04:09] <psychx-> elite499: it looks like it's for windows
[04:09] <elite499> sounds like youll need a ide/sata to usb to transfer files over
[04:09] <Doodie> elite499, it's Radeon 6470M
[04:09] <elite499> is it still in the laptop?
[04:10] <elite499> one sec psychx
[04:10] <elite499> doodie have you recently updated your driver?
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> QuikNik: dd or partimage or rsync
[04:11] <seawookie> tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf? doodie
[04:12] <Doodie> elite499, yes i installed for my new laptop. it's ATI/AMD FGLRX graphics card.
[04:12] <Doodie> seawookie, I want to but have no idea how to proceed.
[04:12] <QuikNik> ActionParsnip: I can put the dd or partimage image on an external drive.. and then bring it back onto the new drive with those utilities?
[04:12] <elite499> doodie have you installed the ati software for the card?
[04:13] <abe> QuikNik: have a look at Clonezilla.  I found this LiveCD pretty handy and easy to use if you need to clone your system
[04:13] <Doodie> elite499, yes the FGLRX Graphics card is the driver that's available. but it seems not to work.
[04:13] <sam___> bol
[04:13] <QuikNik> abe:  Okay I will look into it? thanks
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> QuikNik: you will need both drives attaches then boot to live CD and use the tools
[04:14] <skyball> how do i get my USB joy stick noticed ?
[04:15] <elite499> Doodie, try looking online for a supported driver
[04:15] <QuikNik> QuikNik: which one would you recommend between them?
[04:15] <abe> QuikNik: for clonezilla, you could save the partition/drive as image file. Options include save to external hard disk, or network (ftp/samba) if I remember
[04:15] <QuikNik> dough, I mean ActionParsnip
[04:15] <elite499> sounds like its not compatiable with the default driver
[04:15] <abe> QuikNik: of cos u could just clone it to the target disk straight away.... or restore the image files on another machine
[04:16] <Doodie> elite499, yup
[04:17] <QuikNik> abe, ActionParsnip:  Thanks for your help a lot
[04:17] <abe> QuikNik: np :)
[04:18] <elite499> did you find one Doodie?
[04:18] <r0gue> hello sam____
[04:19] <abe> QuikNik: and FYI, clonezilla is built upon dd/partimage etc  ;)
[04:19] <QuikNik> I like ubuntu 10.10? I never want to upgrade
[04:19] <QuikNik> lol
[04:19] <Doodie> elite499, i tried but the Radeon website has only that. Also, a few of the tutorials were using that file, but older version.
[04:19] <QuikNik> abe: ah, I figured it might be looking at it
[04:20] <QuikNik> untli now i've been using an acronis utility.. but it let me down just now.. giving me a weird error message
[04:20] <sam___> who is mother of ubuntu
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> canonical
[04:20] <seawookie> LINUS TORVALDS
[04:20] <abe> QuikNik: just that it just makes it easier to use esp when cloning disk.  partimage doesn't support disk clone AFAIK
[04:20] <seawookie> !!!!!
[04:21] <_6i> seawookie: linus torvalds is the father of linux (kernel), not ubuntu (distribution)
[04:21] <elite499> Doodie try google your card and see if you can find a driver via that
[04:21] <seawookie> lol it was just a joke sry
[04:22] <elite499> if the site doesnt have one
[04:22] <_6i> seawookie: ..maybe grandfather?... :D
[04:22] <abe> I wonder if anyone has experience with bluez NAP profile. I was trying to set it up based on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1632825  but "sdptool browse local" never show NAP being an announced service.  Any insight?
[04:22] <Doodie> seawookie, could you please check my xorf.conf . http://codepad.org/7gEGRp6v
[04:22] <seawookie> haha on its stepmothers side
[04:22] <seawookie> lata yall
[04:22] <seawookie> pcing out
[04:22] <seawookie> goodluck
[04:23] <_6i> seawookie: then lets settle for a definite ancestor..of sorts :D
[04:24] <_schism_> question for those of you smarter than me. has anyone had a problem getting the google music app to auth?
[04:25] <usr13> _schism_: I didn't even know there WAS a google music app
[04:25] <_schism_> usr13, its a .deb from google forgot to put that in sorry
[04:26] <usr13> where?
[04:26] <_schism_> https://music.google.com/music/listen#manager_pl
[04:28] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to log into Ubuntu One, but the client keeps reporting an exception that represents an authentication failure..any ideas how to fix this one?
[04:30] <psychx-> Does anyone know what codec I have to use in order to properly upload a video to YouTube?
[04:30] <Shaxs> Hey guys, I am trying to install emitapp.com which is a tar.gz file. According to the readme in the directory after I unzipped, I am supposed to do "Install to default /usr/local then sudo ./install
[04:30] <Shaxs> However ./install is not working
[04:33] <bullgard4> For most commands I can use the prefix »LANG=C« to obtain output not in my native language but in English. How can I obtain output in English for manpages, for example for 'man update-alternatives'?
[04:33] <_schism_> psychx-, I think most of the major ones work.  I have done oggtheora and 3gp with no problems
[04:34] <_6i> hey guys, anyone having any idea why alsa lost mic control or how could i gave it back to it? or maybe it just got way too quite (if i start hitting the mic against the desk with mic volume maxed out (over 100%), i get 1 bar in the volume settings window); aslamixer seams not to help, but interestingly amixer does..in a way: if i turn the playback on for the mic input, i hear that its working, volume control  works too (in amixer), but sound sett
[04:34] <_6i> ings and alsamixer is still the same (very quite); in audacity i can record when choosing the hardware as input, but not the "default" input sources, also if a program cannot choose an input but uses the default system setting than it can't record
[04:34] <gogeta> psychx-: you tube accepts alot of formats.
[04:35] <gogeta> psychx-: but mp4 h264 is what it uses
[04:35] <Darkhacker> hello people
[04:36] <Darkhacker> im new to ubuntu 11.10 can i change the way it looks
[04:36] <gogeta> Darkhacker: nope
[04:36] <Darkhacker> i dont like the bar on the left
[04:36] <gogeta> Darkhacker: unity = fail
[04:36] <Darkhacker> i like the way the old 10.10 worked
[04:37] <gogeta> Darkhacker: xubuntu is abought as close as you can get to the old style
[04:37] <bullgard4> _6i: Please check first the settings in alsamixer.
[04:37] <Darkhacker> so lame T.T
[04:37] <_6i> Darkhacker: ooor, you install gnome2..
[04:37] <gogeta> Darkhacker: untill mint releses there mate version with the gnome 2 forke
[04:37] <robin0800> !notunity | Darkhacker
[04:38] <Shaxs> Any idea why sudo ./install as in the readme of an app would not work?
[04:38] <gogeta> Darkhacker: yea gnome 3 can be custom big time but its still wanky
[04:38] <_schism_> Darkhacker, install lxde or xfce maybe
[04:39] <gogeta> Darkhacker: bascily ubntu and gnome lost there minds and have dedcided to sucide there softwhere
[04:39] <dr_willis> i did see some hacks to put the unity panel at the bottom
[04:39] <robin0800> gogeta: what's wanky?
[04:39] <gogeta> robin0800: gnome 3
[04:39] <Darkhacker> gogeta so should i use gnome 3 and is there a simple apt-get i can use ?
[04:39] <Darkhacker> i been looking all day to change this desktop T.T
[04:39] <robin0800> gogeta: I know what's wanky about it?
[04:40] <bullgard4> Darkhacker: You can install the package gnome-shell. Then log out and before logging in select in the login screen image "GNOME Classic (No effects)".
[04:40] <gogeta> Darkhacker: you can give it a shot
[04:40] <gogeta> bullgard4: gnome classic narly works
[04:40] <dr_willis> Darkhacker:  depends on exactly what you want
[04:40] <gogeta> barly
[04:40] <gogeta> bullgard4: even they say so
[04:40] <Darkhacker> like 10.10 x64 desktop version use to bre
[04:40] <Darkhacker> be
[04:40] <tensorpudding> mint has assumed maintenance of mate?
[04:40] <sileni> hello everyone
[04:41] <gogeta> Darkhacker: yur gonna have to wait for mate to get working
[04:41] <robin0800> gogeta: its configurable and compiz works
[04:41] <tensorpudding> i assumed that mate was going to rapidly bitrot since no one was willing to devote the time to take care of it
[04:41] <bullgard4> gogeta: '~$ dict narly; No definitions found for "narly", perhaps you mean: what?'
[04:41] <gogeta> tensorpudding: yes mint is helping big time getting mate working
[04:41] <pnorman> I have an ATI 4250 onboard video. I want to make sure that it is lowering the GPU clockspeed when idle. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver tells me there is an option in xorg.conf called DynamicClocks. I do not have x11 installed, where would I look for the same option?
[04:41] <dr_willis> Darkhacker:  try lubuntu or xubyntu for an old school desdktop
[04:41] <gogeta> mate is a gnome 2 forke
[04:41] <gogeta> making gnome 2 work with gtk 3
[04:41] <sileni> suddenly my very old ipod is not being mounted in ubuntu, it was able to mount before. I have attached this output from dmesg http://pastebin.com/GBq5B6fk
[04:41] <Darkhacker> ill hack this one around and see what i can do :)
[04:42] <sileni> how would i go about bringing it online manually, i don't think there is disk failure
[04:42] <tensorpudding> it's hard to believe they have to resources to keep them updated
[04:42] <tensorpudding> backporting new features would be next to impossible
[04:42] <gogeta> tensorpudding: well the first rc is out of course many things are not working yet
[04:42] <tensorpudding> gnome 2 or not, people are going to get tired of old 2.x apps missing features from 3.x
[04:42] <Darkhacker> dr_willis i code in c but i can in c++ also so i love adding custom stuff to applications and my os
[04:43] <_6i> bullgard4: what settings do you mean? -- i already tried to set the mic input to capture, also turned on the separate "capture" button/column/input/field maxed out rec volume (all in the recording section (after F4)), and nothing changed, just like when i tried playing with the comboboxes and sliders in the sound settings window
[04:43] <dr_willis> tensorpudding:  yep. one of the big reasons for the change to g3
[04:43] <gogeta> tensorpudding: its more abought backporting all the old stuff
[04:43] <tensorpudding> they probably already are, 3.x brought some app changes
[04:44] <gogeta> tensorpudding: naa i was sick when i saw the first screen and saif wtf is this garbage then the same for unity
[04:44] <dr_willis> with the various indicator-applets, lenses, and quicklists info at askubntu.com i got unity working very well..
[04:44] <tensorpudding> !language
[04:44] <Darkhacker> simple terms and im only going to say it once ubuntu is now trash ):
[04:44] <gogeta> tensorpudding: whatever happond to if its not broke dont fix it gnome2 was a stons throw away from being the standerd ui
[04:45] <dr_willis> Darkhacker:  so you actually usecd unity for 5 min?
[04:45] <Darkhacker> more like 9 hours
[04:45] <dr_willis> gnome2 was also lacking in many ways
[04:45] <tensorpudding> complaining about unity and gnome-shell is offtopic here
[04:45] <Doodie> elite499, http://codepad.org/7gEGRp6v
[04:45] <Darkhacker> sorry new to this room
[04:45] <dr_willis> but its dead.. so if you want to tweak ot unity or gnome shell therrws lots of guides for that
[04:45] <gogeta> dr_willis: lol lacking in stuff it didnt need
[04:46] <bullgard4> _6i: I mean the settings that alsamixer allows. They are a finite set. This set depends on the hardware of your computer. --  If you did do all that then there exists another misconfiguration of your audio beyond alsamixer. This sometimes happens and is often difficult to find.
[04:46] <dr_willis> gogeta:  lacking in many things it did need
[04:46] <tensorpudding> people complained about gnome "having stuff that it doesn't need" for a while
[04:46] <gogeta> dr_willis: what 3d wavy windows
[04:46] <dr_willis> but g2 is dead.. so im moving on
[04:46] <gogeta> dr_willis: naa mate :)
[04:46] <Darkhacker> can i change the login screen background to a lot of naked ladys :D ?
[04:46] <Generalcamo> GNOME shell 3 does not work in my ubuntu onieric
[04:47] <tensorpudding> gnome 2 is dead, mate is a rebrand fork that will probably not amount to anything
[04:47] <tensorpudding> Generalcamo, what is the exact issue
[04:47] <bullgard4> !sound | _6i
[04:47] <dr_willis> i imagine in a year mate will be up there with  metisse...
[04:47] <gogeta> tensorpudding: tell that to mint 12
[04:47] <Generalcamo> When I log on with the shell, it shows nothing except my mouse and my desktop background
[04:47] <Generalcamo> I can CTRL-ALT-DELETE to log off though
[04:47] <dr_willis> Generalcamo:  new install or upgrade?
[04:48] <Generalcamo> Tried both
[04:48] <gogeta> dr_willis: mint is aruldy close to beating ubuntu mate will push them past
[04:48] <Darkhacker> no answer ):
[04:48] <Generalcamo> Both say it is up to date
[04:48] <dr_willis> gogeta:  i dont really care what mint is doing..
[04:48] <Generalcamo> The Gnome Classic is running fine though, I have it open now
[04:48] <tensorpudding> Darkhacker, you can change the login screen background, but i warn you, it's a pain
[04:48] <tensorpudding> Darkhacker, well, i think it is easier if you use lightdm
[04:48] <Darkhacker> tensorpudding, link to a guide or anything
[04:48] <dr_willis> Generalcamo:  whats yor video chipset?
[04:49] <tensorpudding> do you use gdm or lightdm
[04:49] <Killamancer> am i able to get linux help in the channel?
[04:49] <Generalcamo> ATI Radeon 260
[04:49] <Generalcamo> For Laptops
[04:49] <Generalcamo> I think...
[04:49] <dr_willis> Killamancer:  yes. thats why we aer here
[04:49] <tensorpudding> Killamancer, ubuntu is linux, if you're using ubuntu then ask
[04:49] <tensorpudding> if it's a linux question that doesn't have to do with ubuntu you should ask in ##linux
[04:49] <dr_willis> Generalcamo:  the live cd desktop works fine?
[04:50] <Generalcamo> Yes
[04:50] <Generalcamo> Unity works as well
[04:50] <Generalcamo> Only GNOME 3
[04:50] <Generalcamo> has problems
[04:50] <Killamancer> my friend who has 0 linux experience is trying to install starcraft2 on ubuntu, he got wine and installed the game but when he starts it, the screen is black, the game is running though
[04:50] <tensorpudding> Darkhacker, do you use gdm or lightdm? my experience is only with gdm
[04:50] <dr_willis> Generalcamo:  now.. thats interesting....
[04:50] <_6i> bullgard4: also, sound settings and alsamixer does not have a mic boost option, but amixer does -- however it is not needed to record (simply turning up mic vol does the trick with amixer); also, mic and alsa work well from a live boot, and they worked well before, but recently i played with using jack for a couple of apps at the same time, and probably my actions misconfigured something unintentionally; i already checked the the help links excep
[04:50] <_6i> t the last (alsa), but thanks for it anyway
[04:51] <tensorpudding> Killamancer, issues with running games in wine would be better asked elsewhere
[04:51] <tensorpudding> !wine
[04:51] <dr_willis> !appdb | Killamancer
[04:51] <tensorpudding> yeah, #winehq
[04:51] <Killamancer> ok thanks
[04:51] <gogeta> wine has been pretty fail as of late
[04:52] <gogeta> Killamancer: but try playonlinux it helps set wine for games
[04:57] <Flynsarmy> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z this page says to use the line modprobe acpi_call but when i do i get 'module acpi_call not found'. would tha thave anything to do with having acpi=noirq in grub?
[04:57] <Darkhacker> back
[04:58] <Darkhacker> GNome Classic is what i wanted :D
[04:58] <Darkhacker> <3 it
[04:59] <robin0800> Darkhacker: you have to hack it if you want compiz
[04:59] <Darkhacker> compiz ?
[05:00] <tensorpudding> Darkhacker, do you use lightdm or gdm
[05:01] <robin0800> Darkhacker: the compositing manager desk top cube etc.
[05:01] <Darkhacker> not sure tensorpudding im new to linux
[05:01] <Darkhacker> and im fine the way the system is i got my background as big titty's so im good :D
[05:02] <Darkhacker> 2tb ubuntu install :D im ready for some fun
[05:04] <dr_willis> gnome classic is lacking in many ways.. often it jst looks like what people want.. ntill they start using it...
[05:05] <Darkhacker> any good games that will run on 3.2ghz dual core 6gb ram with no graphics card ?
[05:05] <dr_willis> yo are sshing into a headless pc Darkhacker ?
[05:05] <szal> no gfx card?  are you kidding?
[05:05] <tensorpudding> he means integrated graphics, probably
[05:06] <brjannc> nethack? ;)
[05:06] <tensorpudding> you probably can't run doom 3
[05:06] <dr_willis> !info bsdgames
[05:06] <tensorpudding> you could run quadrapassel though
[05:06] <Darkhacker> szal im planning on getting one
[05:06] <dr_willis> asciiinvaders  ;)
[05:07] <Darkhacker> i ran WOW on windows fine with this O.o
[05:07] <dr_willis> saw an ascii  tetris
[05:08] <Darkhacker> Armagetron Advanced O.o ?
[05:08] <Darkhacker> seems fun
[05:08] <dr_willis> so... you do have a video card. ;)
[05:08] <Darkhacker> dr willis no O.o ?
[05:08] <Darkhacker> just a basic out of the box pc
[05:08] <Darkhacker> 2tb hd
[05:08] <Darkhacker> 6gb ram
[05:08] <Darkhacker> 3.2ghz dual core cpu
[05:08] <dr_willis> you just said you were running wow on windows...
[05:09] <Darkhacker> ya it runs ok
[05:09] <Darkhacker> it was before i install ubuntu today
[05:09] <dr_willis> the fact its a onboard video... does not mean you have no video card.. ;)
[05:09]  * szal doesn't think Windows even runs w/o a gfx card
[05:09] <tensorpudding> armegatron probably can run fine on your system
[05:09] <szal> Darkhacker: lspci | grep -i vga
[05:09] <dr_willis> wow and lotro work in wine i hear
[05:10] <dr_willis> if you want mmorpg
[05:10] <szal> Armagetron is a fine game, only I never managed to figure it out ;)
[05:10] <Darkhacker> zoom
[05:10] <Darkhacker> zooom :D
[05:10] <Darkhacker> killed someone lol
[05:11] <szal> Darkhacker: please execute the above command and paste the output, thanks
[05:11] <Darkhacker> szal 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[05:12] <szal> Darkhacker: as expected, on-board gfx
[05:12] <Darkhacker> szal bad ?
[05:12] <szal> depends
[05:13] <szal> Darkhacker: thing is, it's not "no gfx card"
[05:13] <Darkhacker> i should still be able to pick a normal graphics card up and install it ?
[05:13] <szal> if you have a card slot for one, yes
[05:13] <Darkhacker> i got 8 :D
[05:14] <tensorpudding> is it a laptop
[05:14] <tensorpudding> it depends on if you have a slot
[05:14] <Darkhacker> Desktop
[05:14] <Darkhacker> $975
[05:14] <tensorpudding> you probably do
[05:15] <jiltdil> I want to use kde desktop environment . Please tell me the package name.
[05:15] <szal> jiltdil: kubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <Darkhacker> is there any good graphics cards under a $100 ?
[05:16] <jiltdil> szal:thanks
[05:18] <jiltdil> Darkhacker, get the nvidia
[05:18] <Darkhacker> jiltdil cost?
[05:18] <dr_willis> nvidia has a wide range of decent cards for every budget
[05:18] <Darkhacker> but will it run mkv O.o
[05:19] <jiltdil> Darkhacker,  96** version i think it is very good in range of $100
[05:19] <dr_willis> yo play mkv videos.. and even my low end netbook can play them
[05:20] <szal> Darkhacker: GT240, €70 (unless it's made in Thailand & now more expensive)
[05:20] <dr_willis> check the various video czard review sites for whats a good value $100 card these days.
[05:20] <Darkhacker> but will the card play black ops or mw3 ok ?
[05:20] <lng_> hi! how to resolve it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/742940/
[05:20]  * szal has no friggin' idea about gaming stuff
[05:20] <dr_willis> if you want the best gameing experience.. dual boot with windows for games
[05:20] <lng_> libncurses5-dev doesn't help
[05:21] <Darkhacker> i paid for some cross over thing dr willis
[05:21] <Darkhacker> it will let me run windows games
[05:21] <dr_willis> if you want the best gameing experience.. dual boot with windows for games  ------ still applies
[05:22]  * Darkhacker slides $50 to dr_willis for some meds xD
[05:22] <jiltdil> Darkhacker,  Ypu can also use Gamedrift linux for your gaming experience, it's paid one
[05:22] <dr_willis> especially with newe0r high end games
[05:23] <dr_willis> even games that do run well in wine, i find often work better in windows - less qirks in the games.
[05:23] <Prodego> or just use windows :)
[05:23] <Darkhacker> windows = shit
[05:23] <Darkhacker> sorry no offence
[05:23] <dr_willis> !ohmy
[05:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:24] <Darkhacker> ): Sorry everyone
[05:24] <Darkhacker> and sorry ubottu
[05:24] <dr_willis> for real work i got my linux box's for games i got a windows box ;)
[05:25] <Darkhacker> dr_willis that game i told you i was installings ran at 55 fps most the time
[05:25] <Darkhacker> with irc
[05:25] <Darkhacker> firefox
[05:25] <Darkhacker> command prompt
[05:25] <dr_willis> with xming, and ssh,winscp.. i can do both on same machine i got upstairs. linux box is headless in the basement
[05:25] <office3> which is more popular, lubuntu or xubuntu
[05:25] <office3> ?
[05:25] <elite49> xubuntu
[05:26] <Darkhacker> they should have a subuntu :D
[05:26] <dr_willis> office3:  id say xubuntu.  because lubuntu i dont think is an offical variant yet.
[05:26] <dr_willis> but i perfer lubntu for low end machines
[05:26] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[05:27] <jiltdil> Why ubuntu is widely used over other ubuntu variants???
[05:27] <Darkhacker> dr_willis im using ubuntu  because im more of a homebrew dev i love coding open source application and games and so on and i thought a open source os would be best in the long run :D
[05:28] <Darkhacker> google DarkhackerPS3
[05:28] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  its the first, the most popular, and the manuals/docs all refer to bntu
[05:28] <jiltdil> dr_willis, hm :) good one
[05:28] <dr_willis> for low end hardware lubuntu is gaining a following
[05:29] <dr_willis> xubntu is sort of in the middle... its heavier then lbntu.
[05:29] <Darkhacker> dr_willis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvLWHmF154&feature=channel_video_title   what do you think ?
[05:29] <dr_willis> and of course kubuntu for kde lovers
[05:30] <dr_willis> Darkhacker:  im on my android phone - so i dont youtube from it. ;)
[05:30] <Darkhacker> nice i just got my first android last week
[05:30] <Darkhacker> just got it rooted today
[05:31] <cattune> hello....can anyone point a complete newb to some grassroots ubuntu information?
[05:31] <og01> hi there i've got a little stuck, i tried out the xbmc unstable PPA and now want to revert to their stable, I removed the source and did aptitude update, but when i try and install xbmc it sats that xbmc-data is BROKEN, because it is newer than what xbmc depends
[05:31] <dr_willis> cattune:  ask away
[05:31] <og01> how can I make it forget about the newer packageS?
[05:31] <dr_willis> og01:  try the ppa-purge tool/
[05:32] <cattune> thanks dr-willis......at the moment i have an error msg that appears as i suspend the machine - error edid checksum is invalid
[05:32] <dr_willis> !info ppa-purge
[05:32] <Darkhacker> how do i install xbmc or showtime T.T ?
[05:33] <dr_willis> cattune: i never use sspend or hibernate so no idea.. my ubntu box has like 4 weeks+ uptime
[05:33] <bullgard4> In gnome-terminal pressing Ctrl+Shift+T will open another Tab within the gnome-terminal program window. What is the analogous command for urxvt?
[05:33] <dr_willis> Darkhacker:  via the xbmc ppa  normally
[05:34] <cattune> ah,ok....but i have many others too!..:)
[05:34] <tensorpudding> urxvt, to my knowledge, doesn't support tabs
[05:34] <Darkhacker> E: Unable to locate package xbmc
[05:34] <dr_willis> been ages since i used urxvt ;)
[05:34] <rootofjesse> i am looking for some help with a dual boot xp ubuntu 11.10 problem
[05:35] <dr_willis> !ppa | Darkhacker
[05:35] <Darkhacker> i did this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc
[05:35] <dr_willis> xbmc is not in the default repos.
[05:35] <Darkhacker> then sudo apt-get update
[05:35] <cattune> i set preferences in thunderbird on last boot,but this boot has discarded those preferences,i didn't see a save button at the time,but i may have accidentally logged in as a different user??
[05:36] <dr_willis> theres some how to install xbmc on 11.10 gides out there
[05:36] <og01> Darkhacker: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu
[05:36] <cattune> what would be the best setup proceedure to set user profiles?
[05:37] <dr_willis> cattune:  each user has their own settings.. so im  not clear on what you mean
[05:37] <cattune> i have searched for some info,but it is mainly cmd line based and i'm spoon fed windows user..:)
[05:38] <cattune> as i understand it each user has thier own priviledges for security,at the moment i'm logged in as a guest
[05:38] <dr_willis> cattune:  guest user settings are not saved..
[05:39] <dr_willis> thats why they are  guest
[05:39] <cattune> a ubuntu for dummies guide seems appropriate for me..
[05:39] <dr_willis> add new users if you want a new user
[05:39] <dr_willis> !manual
[05:39] <redshiftquasars> #minecraft
[05:39] <dr_willis> that manual is a little out of date but the fundamentals still apply
[05:40] <Darkhacker> guess ill try to compile showtime
[05:40] <Darkhacker> anyone else use it ?
[05:40] <dr_willis> never heard of it.
[05:40] <dr_willis> i use boxee or xbmc for my video playback needs
[05:40] <Darkhacker> dr_willis google showtime media player :D
[05:40] <Darkhacker> it the F****** bomb
[05:41] <Darkhacker> i did some work on the port to ps3
[05:41] <jtr__> Darkhacker: seriously ?
[05:41] <jtr__> Darkhacker: i'm gonna try rightnow!
[05:41] <Darkhacker> yes
[05:41] <cattune> ah,thank you dr-willis,just found your msg re guest users
[05:42] <dr_willis> !tab | cattune
[05:42] <jtr__>  Darkhacker did u mean a "google" showtime media player
[05:43] <Darkhacker> jtf__ git clone git://github.com/andoma/showtime.git
[05:43] <jtr__> Darkhacker: woaky :)
[05:43] <Darkhacker> https://www.lonelycoder.com/hts/showtime_overview.html
[05:43] <jtr__> Darkhacker: my distorted nick jtf_ :(
[05:44] <tmus> Does anyone have a clue why we haven't seen Firefox8 on Oneiric yet? When FF8 was released, speculation was "in a few days", but that's way overdue now... Serious issues with it or something?
[05:45] <dr_willis> you would use a ppa to get ff8 i thought
[05:45] <lng> hi! how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/742940/
[05:45] <dr_willis> normal repos wont be pdated to include it.
[05:45] <tensorpudding> lng, install ncurses
[05:45] <dr_willis> !ff8
[05:45] <dr_willis> !ff
[05:45] <Darkhacker> jtr_ if you install you need this page https://github.com/andoma/showtime/blob/master/README.markdown
[05:45] <jtr__> this channel is the most useful invention of man :D
[05:46] <jtr__> Darkhacker: ok, i'll read :)
[05:47] <lng> tensorpudding: what is package name?
[05:47] <tensorpudding> libncurses5-dev should do it
[05:48] <tmus> dr_willis, thanks :-)
[05:48] <lng> tensorpudding: I already have it
[05:49] <dr_willis> tmus: funny thing.. i use opera  :-)
[05:49] <Darkhacker> jtr__ there many media players out there but showtime has many options in it for use and play many formats and even does subtitles from internet and hell of plugins and you can even rent mp3's on it
[05:49] <Darkhacker> and rent adult movies if your over 18+
[05:50] <tmus> dr_willis, heh :-)
[05:50] <jtr__> Darkhacker: sounds really cool, why is it still on git, why not a .deb ?
[05:50] <rootofjesse> i decided to redo xp and oneiric installations and rearrange the partitions of the ubuntu, did gparted from live, committed, did not touch ntfs, rebooted and installed xp from cd with full format of the ntfs, and found it had rebooted to "disk read error" "press ctrl + alt +del"
[05:50] <tensorpudding> lng, it could be an issue with the thing you're building
[05:50] <tensorpudding> ask the people who wrote it
[05:51] <tmus> dr_willis, ff8 is now in the ppas for oneiric though - it was worth a shot ;-)
[05:51] <lng> tensorpudding: I have that compiled on the other machine
[05:54] <Darkhacker> jtr__ because of the process of getting it setup i think but it worth it
[05:54] <Darkhacker> it on osx linux and ps3
[05:54] <gulzar> how to use my GPRS connection with QEMU?
[05:55] <jtr__> Darkhacker: oh, okay
[06:01] <packrit> bonjour,
[06:01] <packrit> pas sûr que qq'un soit là un samedi matin...
[06:01] <packrit> J'intalle xubuntu 11.10 hier soir...
[06:02] <jtr__> !french
[06:02] <jtr__> !help|french
[06:02] <jtr__> :D
[06:02] <lighta> salut packrit , et sisi ya tjr du monde =)
[06:03] <packrit> Bien sûr.. jtr
[06:03] <jtr__> packrit: ca va?
[06:03] <jtr__> packrit: :)
[06:03] <mcsteve> Anyone know how to disable plymouth on 11.04, or at least get it to leave ttyS0 alone?
[06:03] <packrit> Sur #ununtu6fr, ils dorment tous /o\
[06:04] <katsrc> hey everyone
[06:04] <katsrc> i'm having some issues with this "update-apt-xapi" process that keeps on consuming as much as 50 to 60% CPU resources
[06:04] <packrit> nouvelle install hier soir sur tout le disque est ce matin, le disque est plein ?
[06:04] <katsrc> does anyone have an idea on what it is
[06:04] <jtr__> packrit: je n'ait pas beaucoup de francais, j'ai anglais, et je ne puex pas comprenez que tu dit
[06:04] <packrit> 40 Go
[06:05] <packrit> my hard disq is full after a new install (hier)
[06:06] <blargg> Using Ubuntu 10.04 and Disk Utility, I formatted a 60GB volume on an MBR'd disk as FAT. I tried to mount on OS X, but no go. I notice that the parition type is still 0x83 (Linux). I want to set this correctly. Two most viable ones seem 0x0B (FAT32) and 0x0C (FAT32 LBA). Would this one be using LBA?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: let me search
[06:08] <mcsteve> I can't figure out what's going on here, but on this server, plymouthd is interfering with the serial console
[06:08] <packrit> Lighta ?
[06:09] <packrit> tu speakes bien le français.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: http://sapnwnewbie.blogspot.com/2010/11/high-cpu-usage-by-update-apt-xapi.html
[06:10] <brjannc> blargg: yes; without LBA, FAT32 only supports up to 2 GB I think. so you want type C
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> !away > virusuy-away
[06:10] <blargg> Yay, trying to change partition ID in MBR has hung something. I'll just use sfdisk, ugh.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> !fr | packrit
[06:11] <katsrc> ActionParsnip: i've done that it still is an issue
[06:12] <l1nuxman> how can I run apache2 binary without getting error: "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" ??
[06:12] <katsrc> it suppose to be fixed, but i'm still having this issue
[06:12] <l1nuxman> Also without running my init script apache2ctl
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: did you reboot after making the change?
[06:13] <katsrc> ActionParsnip: yup
[06:13] <katsrc> i'm going to look into a bug report
[06:13] <katsrc> seems more people are having this
[06:13] <packrit> It is possible for a french speaker to go to #ubuntu-fr ? please.
[06:14] <packrit> My english is too bad to speak.
[06:14] <brjannc> packrit: have you tried #ubuntu-qc ? there may be some quebecois still awake there
[06:15] <katsrc> ActionParsnip: i guess it's an unfixed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-xapian-index/+bug/830333
[06:16] <packrit> brjannc, I go see the quebecois...
[06:16] <brjannc> packrit: bonne chance :)
[06:17] <cattune> does anyone know where i can download ubuntu for dummies?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: indeed, you could always modify the cron to not run it but I'm not sure what it does
[06:18] <katsrc> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, i think i'll try that
[06:18] <supercoder> hello
[06:18] <supercoder> hello
[06:18] <supercoder> katsrc: hello
[06:18] <katsrc> hi supercoder
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: http://examplenow.com/package/apt-xapian-index/
[06:19] <packrit> You are very "courtois" here.
[06:19] <l1nuxman> I'm getting: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} however in my /etc/apache2/envars file I have user and group set to www-data. What gives?
[06:20] <l1nuxman> because I'm trying to run the apache2 binary
[06:26] <packrit> No body for me. I'm hugry "triste"
[06:27] <ImTheDude> my screen lets disapeared after my screen saver came on why did they dissapeared
[06:27] <SKYP> Æ»¹û3¼Û¸ñ
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> ImTheDude: if you kill the screenlet service then rerun it, do they come back?
[06:29] <ImTheDude> they came back i just dont know how they dissapeared
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> ImTheDude: maybe its just slow to come back
[06:32] <ImTheDude> ya
[06:32] <ImTheDude> can i speed it up
[06:38] <dennis__> guys how do i run without compiz on ubuntu 11?
[06:39] <dr_willis> use a different wm, or select unity2d, or other ways
[06:39] <xangua> dennis__: use unity-2d ot gnome fallback mode
[06:39] <dennis__> dr_willis, how do i select unity2d?
[06:39] <dr_willis> you want to use unity without compiz?
[06:39] <dennis__> second question: how do i run without unity?
[06:39] <dr_willis> install unity-2d package and select it at login screen
[06:40] <mrcode> [eclipse-ecf data:"package com.andrewmatt.luncher;
[06:40] <dennis__> i did not see different options for different desktop environments at the login screen
[06:40] <dr_willis> install a different desktop/wm - select it at login screen
[06:40] <dennis__> i did see some things in the corner that looked like i should be able to click them but they did nothing
[06:40] <dr_willis> install them, restart the lighdm service
[06:40] <dennis__> also when i switch users, or go to the login screen without logging out of this x session, the resolution is very very small
[06:41] <dennis__> unity-2s is already at newest version
[06:41] <dr_willis> the gear next to the name/pass on lightdm is the menu
[06:41] <dr_willis> !unity2d
[06:41] <dennis__> dr_willis, thanks doing that now
[06:41] <dr_willis> i think that gear icon shold be an arrow or so mthing more obvious
[06:42] <dr_willis> not like lightdm is lacking in free space on the screen
[06:42] <dr_willis> they got room for a big list/description on the right even with screen shots
[06:44] <llutz_> dr_willis: design flaw, hide all options to the user :(
[06:44] <dr_willis> design decision = user friendly = dumb things down
[06:45] <dr_willis> im still not im pressed with the defalt theme/look of lightdm
[06:45] <llutz_> surprise-DM = "surprise, i found an option"
[06:46] <dennis__> hi guys :) i was able to get out of compiz. *much* faster already as my CPU is no longer being pegged constantly by X any time i do anything
[06:46] <dennis__> how do i get out of unity now? i didn't see an option for another desktop environment. what package(s) should i install for gnome desktop?
[06:46] <dr_willis> install a different desktop/wm - select it at login screen
[06:46] <dennis__> also i think i prefer gdm to lightdm
[06:46] <xangua> !nounity | dennis__
[06:46] <dr_willis> gnome 3 = install gnome-shell
[06:47] <dennis__> xangua, thank you :)
[06:47] <dennis__> dr_willis, thanks :)
[06:47] <dennis__> also here is a side question:
[06:47] <nuse> can somone help me disable the gnome-keyring? i edited the .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart to no avail
[06:47] <dennis__> Dash Home before could find terminal, and once i installed it, xchat
[06:47] <dr_willis> the gnome fallback/classic modes are annoying and lacking in many ways
[06:47] <dennis__> now it can't find either, wtf?
[06:47] <dennis__> dr_willis, which ways?
[06:47] <dennis__> should i just switch them to ubuntu 10?
[06:47] <dr_willis> i noticecd xchat not showing up also.
[06:48] <dr_willis> ran it by hand, and pined it to the panel
[06:48] <dennis__> dr_willis, how did you run it by hand?
[06:48] <dr_willis> gnome-termial showed o
[06:48] <dennis__> is there a run shortcut?
[06:48] <dr_willis> dennis__:  typed it in a term/alt-f2
[06:48] <dennis__> OH
[06:48] <dennis__> the applications tab in dash home reappeared
[06:48] <dennis__> i hadn't realized it was gone or existed
[06:48] <dennis__> but now it's back
[06:49] <dennis__> dr_willis, i could have sworn that when i tried alt+f2 earlier it didn't work :|
[06:49] <nuse> anybody?
[06:49] <dr_willis> there are classic type menu indicator applets also
[06:49] <nuse> gnome-keyring bugs me
[06:49] <dr_willis> nuse:  so set it to use a blank password. and it never asks again
[06:50] <dr_willis> no need to remove it
[06:50] <nuse> whaaat? sweet, i've already set the password though
[06:50] <dennis__> dash home observation: nice that you can hold shift when you're holding Meta to launch a new instance of an app
[06:50] <dr_willis> if you had just hit enter = never asks again
[06:50] <dr_willis> run seahorse, right click on login, change password
[06:50] <nuse> well bummer, there has gotta be a way to fix it even after setting the pass
[06:50] <nuse> aight
[06:51] <dr_willis> documented all over the forms and askubuntu.com
[06:51] <dr_willis> it will ask 'use unsafe storeage?'  ;)
[06:51] <dennis__> lol, run ps ax, find /bin/cat chilling with a low pid :|
[06:52] <nuse> perfect
[06:52] <nuse> thanks alot
[06:52] <dennis__> what's zeitgeist-datahub?
[06:53] <dr_willis> zeitgeist is that monitoring tool that keeps track of last used files and so forth
[06:53] <dr_willis> neat tool if you do a lot of real work
[06:53] <l1nuxman> can someone help me, I don't know how to fix this? "(2)No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /etc/apache2/${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log."
[06:54] <dennis__> dr_willis, how does it accomplish its monitoring? i infer it is more sophisticated than simply the shell recording which programs/documents you launch from it
[06:54] <dr_willis> dennis__:  check its home page.. i belive the apps it monitors need to support its features
[06:54] <dennis__> dr_willis, ah ok
[06:55] <dennis__> dr_willis, what did you mean by "real work?"
[06:55] <dr_willis> i rarely use/need it
[06:55] <dr_willis> word processing/coding
[06:55] <jiltdil> Which is better kdm or lightdm?
[06:55] <dr_willis> not just po^h^h   web surfing
[06:55] <llutz_> LinuxRants: check /etc/apache2/envvars
[06:55] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  you rnning kde?
[06:56] <dennis__> l1nuxman, grep -R APACHE_LOG_DIR /etc/apache # and pastebin the results
[06:56] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  no i am in process for installing it
[06:56] <jiltdil> dr_willis: i am using unity right now
[06:56] <dr_willis> if you use kde.. you can try kdm. ;)
[06:56] <dr_willis> any *dm should work fine
[06:56] <dennis__> dr_willis, would you recommend kde over gnome desktop environment for ubuntu 11?
[06:57] <aoiyuki> d
[06:57] <aoiyuki> g
[06:57] <aoiyuki> d
[06:57] <aoiyuki> g
[06:57] <aoiyuki> d
[06:57] <FloodBot1> aoiyuki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <aoiyuki> g
[06:57] <jiltdil> dr_willis, thanks , what is for lightdm?
[06:57] <dr_willis> dennis__:  depends on your needs.
[06:57] <dr_willis> lightdm has replaced gdm
[06:57] <jiltdil> dr_willis, hm thanks alot
[06:57] <dennis__> ok gonna try gnome brb
[06:58] <dennis__> wow
[06:58]  * jiltdil currently have two desktop environment gnome3 and unity , now testing kde
[06:58] <dr_willis> dont forget lxde and xfce
[06:59] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  tested already but i have removed
[06:59] <dr_willis> then theres the old skool window managers like icewm, fluxbox, sawfish, olvwm
[06:59] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  i found xfce nice
[07:00] <dr_willis> kde will take some learning/reading of its gides to fully gain fll use of its coolness
[07:00] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  have experience on woring on kde on BT, first time gonaa use it on ubuntu
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: unity isnt a DE
[07:01] <dr_willis> kde is still weird in many ways. ;)
[07:01] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  i never said that :)
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: could look like it :D
[07:02] <office3> can one run edubuntu on xubuntu or lubuntu?
[07:02] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  :)
[07:02] <llutz_> dr_willis: gnome is, not kde! (says a kde-user) ;)
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: glad you are exploring other options on the desktop too.Very commendable
[07:02] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[07:03] <dr_willis> my fave
[07:03] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip, :)
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seems to be what puppy uses
[07:04] <office3> or perhaps better phrased, can one install the edubuntu components on xubuntu or lubuntu?
[07:04] <dr_willis> office3:  yes
[07:05] <dr_willis> !info edubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> office3: absolutely, provided you have space
[07:06] <office3> what's required space for edubuntu running on lubuntu, for example?
[07:06] <llutz_> office3: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop -s      gives you info (space needed after installation)
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> office3: depends what packages you have installed. If you use apt-get it will tell you how much space it will use and you can say NO if it is too much
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> office3: shouldn't be a lot
[07:07] <office3> well, space is one thing, RAM is another. how much RAM is required for the bulkier edubuntu programs, if you know?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> office3: depends how many you run at the same time
[07:08] <office3> just probably one at a time.
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> shouldn't be a lot then
[07:09] <office3> anyways, I need to do more research, obviously, but thank you all for your help and support, this forum is quite a blessing to us lost souls.
[07:10] <office3> Dr. Willis, forgive me, for I have Microsofted...
[07:10] <office3> :)
[07:11] <office3> I'll do 5 Hail Stallmans and 4 Our Torvalds...
[07:12] <office3> !happiness
[07:17] <kanhiya1> hello, everybody
[07:18] <demonway> hi
[07:18] <kanhiya1> I want to have a apllication that can sync my Nokia phone contacts with UBuntu 11.10 PC
[07:18] <kanhiya1> i ma having nokia C2-01
[07:19] <kanhiya1> *am
[07:20] <kanhiya1> i am able to use same phone as MODEM but not able to sync phone with PC  that i was able to do with Nokia pc suite in Windows
[07:20] <llutz_> !info syncevolution | kanhiya1
[07:20] <demonway> nokia and ubuntu...sync contacts?
[07:21] <xgt001> hello i need some help regards to xfce in ubuntu
[07:23] <kanhiya1> demonway: Yes
[07:24] <kanhiya1> ubottu: This is CLI, i am looking for GUI
[07:27] <Stanley00> kanhiya1: did you try wammu?
[07:27] <xgt001> i installed xfce4 package in oneiric,i changed the panel settings to random sh*t, later i installed xubuntu-desktop, i just got the same settings which i did to xfce4 when i logged into xubuntu session, but when i tried guest session i got a very beautiful interface, how to get it in my profile without getting a new one?
[07:27] <brjannc> kanhiya1: here's a graphical frontend for syncevolution that's under development; they've got stable packages in their PPA. https://launchpad.net/genesis-sync/
[07:29] <kanhiya1> Stanley00: No
[07:29] <Stanley00> xgt001: if you know where the config files saved, delete them, if not, make new account, then copy some config you want to keep to new account, that how I usually do.
[07:30] <pumkinhed_> hello #ubuntu, hopefully quick q, my ubuntu installation running off USB 1.1 is kind of slow, any tweaks to improve performance?
[07:30] <Stanley00> kanhiya1: then you should look at it, it can read contacts on my phone.
[07:30] <xgt001> Stanley00, umm where are the config files located ?? i tried dpkg-reconfigure and apt-get purge  and later reinstall they dint work :(
[07:31] <Stanley00> xgt001: many places, like .config, .gconf and .dconf or .local (maybe) or some where else
[07:32] <kanhiya1> Stanley00: I am installing it, let's see whether it works for me or not
[07:32] <llutz_> pumkinhed_: usb1 IS slow. Best tweak is to get USB2/3
[07:32] <Stanley00> kanhiya1: good luck ;)
[07:32] <Stanley00> xgt001: and the .<appname> sometimes
[07:33] <pumkinhed_> llutz, i should google usb 2 pcmcia
[07:33] <xgt001> Stanley00, ok i saw this xfce4 folder in .config folder, shall i delete it?
[07:33] <pumkinhed_> llutz think it would help to move to a spinning disk?  i am just on a 8gb flash drive
[07:33] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, some usb cords are daisy chain.. (some usb hd's come with these cables 2[usbplug]<->1[deviceport])
[07:33] <dr_willis> a pci usbcard is about $20 last i looked
[07:33] <Stanley00> xgt001: hmm, maybe, not sure, but that wont hurt ;)
[07:33] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, make sure all "legacy" usb options is selected in the bios..
[07:34] <dr_willis> not sure you can boot from a usb pci card
[07:34] <xgt001> Stanley00, will try it and logout brb
[07:34] <Stanley00> xgt001: yep, goood luck
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: should be ok :-)
[07:34] <pumkinhed_> dr_willis, i am running on a compaq nc8000 laptop, drivers work beautifully out of the box, the only complaint i have is that its a little slow
[07:34] <dr_willis> a real hd would be faster then usb 1
[07:35] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, what laptop compaq model is it
[07:35] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, nc8000
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> pumkinhed_: try unity2d. It won't use effects and should make it smoother
[07:36] <pumkinhed_> ActionParsnip, thanks, how do i force 2d?
[07:36] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, check your bios.. make sure all "legacy" support is supported for usb (your laptop is usb2)
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> pumkinhed_: its an option at login
[07:36] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, ah, maybe i just picked a bad port
[07:36] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, also see everything i wrote in this channel.. maybe you bought ur drive with that special cable but aren't using it
[07:36] <pumkinhed_> brb boot
[07:37] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, no i am using an 8gb memory stick
[07:37] <williamchan> what channel should i use for PSPICE?
[07:37] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, think it would be faster to use a portable HD?
[07:37] <Stanley00> !alis | williamchan
[07:37] <williamchan> thx
[07:37] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, did u check the bios? make sure legacy usb is on
[07:38] <Flynsarmy> My laptop runs far hotter under linux than windows and its fan is constantly going. is there anything I can do about this?
[07:38] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, yeah it is, otherwise i couldnt boot from usb
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: which laptop?
[07:39] <xgt001> Stanley00, it worked :D thanks a  ton :D
[07:39] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: dell inspiron 1520 and dell xps 15z (latter preferrably)
[07:39] <Stanley00> xgt001: glad it did, you are welcome :)
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: are you on the latest bios a
[07:40] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: does the xps have nvidia nautilus?
[07:40] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, the only other thing i can guess is to use setpci and increase the latency timer a bit.. maybe..
[07:40] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: bah, not nautilus. nvidia optimus. *tired*
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: and are there bugs reported already?
[07:41] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, thanks i am going to try the unity and maybe moving to a diff usb port
[07:41] <xgt001> Stanley00, ah a little glitch, i am getting ubuntu's window decorator, how to get xubuntu's window decorator without losing compiz?
[07:41] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: xps has nvidia optimus, yes. I've got ahci set to noirq so the screen is working. also performed all things from here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z except the heat/noise section under 'graphics cards' which didn't appear to have any affect last time i attempted it
[07:42] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: did you install bumblebee or ironhide?
[07:42] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: i'll check if i'm on latest GPU. also seeing as this happened on both laptops I just figured it was a linux thing that was inevitable. finally figured i'd ask someone about it :)
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Optimus is a real headache
[07:42] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: I installed bumblebee from the PPA however this resulted in no more 3d unity so I just reformatted
[07:42] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: i'd like to simply disable the nvidia gpu completely
[07:43] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, i was also reading a couple of days, that there's a "feature" some usb drives report but their hardware isn't really there and this causes problems..
[07:43] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: linux has scant support for optimus -- my xps ran hot and had short battery life until i got the ACPI shutdown configured properly with bumblebee
[07:43] <yagoo> pumkinhed_, or some hd-head controller report
[07:43] <Stanley00> xgt001: the compiz config setting manager program has an option to set window decorator, but I dont know what's xfce decorator, you have to search the web for it
[07:44] <warm> any one using amule + firefox?  how to associate them both?
[07:44] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: gotcha. there's a procedure on the page you just linked for that, by blacklisting the nouveau driver (and obviously not installing the nvidia binary driver)
[07:44] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: force it in the bios setup
[07:45] <brjannc> almoxarife: can't on the new xps laptops; no hardware switch
[07:45] <pumkinhed_> yagoo, thanks for the tips i will check them out! :-)
[07:45] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: last time I blacklisted nouveau then attempted to install bumblebee. nvidia drivers installed along with bumblebee - this resulted in no more 3d unity even after I uninstalled bumblebee and any nvidia drivers i could find
[07:46] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: i guess it installed the proprietry ones along with bumblebee
[07:46] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: right -- bumblebee pulls in the drivers itself. if you want to disable the nvidia card completely in linux, follow that procedure (blacklist, update-initramfs, reboot) and then don't do anything else
[07:47] <bullgard4> What is the successor of /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-power-manager.desktop under GNOME Shell 3.2.1?
[07:47] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: at that point, ubuntu should fall back solely on the intel card, and the nvidia card will (hopefully?) remain unpowered
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: does nouveau work with bumblebee?
[07:48] <brjannc> ActionParsnip: it does, but i think it's bleeding edge still
[07:48] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: at which point lspci should only show 1 VGA driver?
[07:48] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: lspci will still show both cards regardless; it's looking at the hardware itself, not the OS
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Whomever invented hybrid graphics needs torturing
[07:49] <brjannc> ActionParsnip: it was a great idea, right up until they said they had no plans to support anything but windows :\
[07:50] <brjannc> ActionParsnip: it's nice to have a laptop that can run, say, modern warfare 3, and still have 5 hour life with the standard battery :)
[07:51] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: ok, i've blacklisted them. I'll shut the laptop down, wait for it to be cool, fire it back up and see how hot it gets while idling. thanks for your help
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> The nvidia gpu could just clock up and down as needed like the cpu does and save power that way.
[07:51] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: sure thing, hope it helps; if not, you *may* need to issue an ACPI shutdown command at boot to power down the card
[07:52] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: you did also say that installing nvidia proprietry with bumblebee resutled in all heat issues being fixed? would blacklisting nouveau and not installing bumblebee have the same affect?
[07:52] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: essentially, yes, because as it is right now, my nvidia card is off; it only powers on when i run something with bumblebee's optirun utility
[07:53] <brjannc> ActionParsnip: they do have variable clock speeds, but i guess they still suck up a lot of power even at idle? not sure
[07:53] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: do you happen to know if optimus will be supported out of the box in 12.04 or is this thing in such early stages atm that that's not likely to happen?
[07:54] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: remains to be seen. development's continuing on bumblebee (which is supposed to be a slow-and-steady, multi-distribution solution) and ironhide (which is more rapidly developed and focused on *buntus)
[07:55] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: ok, and (hopefully) last question: even with nouveau drivers blacklisted, wouldn't the card itself still be powered up and therefore cauisng as much heat as it is atm?
[07:55] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, powermanagement in linux is still premature..
[07:56] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: not necessarily. it depends on what its default behavior is; if it doesn't power up unless the driver asks it to when it's loaded, it should solve the problem. otherwise (cont)
[07:56] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: like I said you may need to use acpi-utils to issue a power-off command from a boot script, which isn't hard, just a little bit of magic
[07:58] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, your best bet with getting apm or acpi power management working is imitate any solutions posted on your laptop model.. otherwise you're in for lots of experimentation
[07:58]  * yagoo favors googling "ubuntu wiki <keywords>"
[07:58] <brjannc> yagoo: this is a very special case because of nvidia optimus -- there aren't really "solutions" yet, just hacks and workarounds :)
[07:59] <Flynsarmy> yahoo way too noobish to pull off anything spectacular unfortunately :(
[07:59] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, what model is it?
[07:59] <Flynsarmy> yahoo xps 15z
[08:00] <brjannc> yagoo: for reference, i am giving this advice as i type on the exact same laptop ;)
[08:00] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, google "xps 15z laptop ubuntu wiki" .. the top link :)
[08:01] <bullgard4> What is the successor of /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-power-manager.desktop under GNOME Shell 3.2.1?
[08:01] <ghostnik11> hi i am running a dell optiplex gx240 and for  some reason lubuntu doesn't see that my cd rom drive is on, I wish to burn a puppy linux disc but when i go to the burner software it says my cd rom drive is not there but in the bios its shown to be on and not disabled
[08:01] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: that's the page I've been working off :) done everything except the graphics card section. i'm on 11.10. Attempting to disable nouveau without installing bumblebee as per brjannc's advice. hopefully it should take care of my heat issues. I have a feeling i'll need a bit more than this htough heh
[08:02] <ghostnik11> how do you mount cd rom drive
[08:02] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, did you also do the update-initramfs -c -k all ?
[08:03] <yagoo> ghostnik11, what type of cd?
[08:03] <bekks> ghostnik11: If the burning software tells you your cdrom is missing, you cannot mount it.
[08:04] <bekks> Since it doesnt need to be mounted for burning something onto it.
[08:04] <ghostnik11> bekks: uh, is there a way i can manually force mount it
[08:04] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: yup. Just disabled nouveau using the link provided there. I've currently got hte laptop off to let it cool to room temp. I'll then fire it up and let it idle and see how hot it gets
[08:04] <llutz_> ghostnik11: you don't mount anything to burn a cd. "wodim -prcap" in a terminal, does it recognize a cd-burner?
[08:04] <bekks> ghostnik11: Please read again what I wrote.
[08:04] <axisys> how do I install handbrake on ubuntu? ppa is failing
[08:04] <axisys> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[08:04] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: the code provided there I hsould say
[08:05] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, do you have something like cpufrequtils installed?
[08:06] <ghostnik11> bekks: i don't get it though, if the bios shows it enabled then how come it doesn't become automatically loaded?
[08:07] <bekks> ghostnik11: Because it maybe broken.
[08:07] <Virtue> Hi guys ! Please don't bash me for what I will say, please. I am just trying to get help for a quite common sound/video problem with ATI graphics card over HDMI but I can't seem to get help anywhere. I copied one of the past IRC channels I went to and put it here http://pastebin.com/SmszUQZU It's not long.. Please do consider reading it ! (PS. there is a video of the problem)
[08:07] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: I don't. I've been using gnome-system-monitor to check how much cpu is being used. i'll install once i fire up teh machine
[08:07] <ghostnik11> bekks: but i installed lubuntu onto it using a cd
[08:08] <bekks> ghostnik11: What is the output of the command you were suggested to run?
[08:08] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, gnome-system-monitor uses dbus i think .. not sure it would be acpi-utils
[08:09] <ghostnik11> bekks: The program 'wodim' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[08:09] <ghostnik11> sudo apt-get install wodim
[08:09] <bekks> ghostnik11: Why dont you install it then?
[08:10] <brjannc> yagoo: the apci-utils suggestion was if Flynsarmy needed to send a raw ACPI command to his nvidia card to power it down.
[08:10] <gemunu> I ve installed a KDE app called Basket note on ubuntu. But the fonts are really small. Any idea ?
[08:10] <brjannc> (though it appears you can do it through /proc, too -- that's handy)
[08:11] <ghostnik11> bekks: wait just installed it will do a pastebin to show output its weird what it says i can and can't do with this cd rom drive on this old computer
[08:11] <bekks> ghostnik11: a cdrom drive isnt a cdrom burning device necessarily.
[08:11] <axisys> no wonder .. there is no oneric version
[08:12]  * yagoo notices the gnome-power-manager package..
[08:12] <ghostnik11> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743018/
[08:13] <Rav3nSw0rd> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and I installed indicator-network on accident. After removing it, my Network Settings (in System Settings) has stopped working (Error message saying "The system network services are not compatible with this version" ). Any ideas how I can fix this issue?
[08:14] <llutz_> ghostnik11: does not write CD-R media..... its not a burner you have
[08:14] <bekks> llutz_: ??
[08:14] <brjannc> and Flynsarmy, yagoo: the ubuntu kernel has CPU governors enabled by default; cpufrequtils is only necessary if you want to use the userspace governor. the ondemand one is usually sufficient, and can be switched to powersave with e.g. gnome's cpu frequency applet
[08:14] <bekks> llutz_: Ah, now I got you :) You are perfectly right :)
[08:15] <bekks> ghostnik11: No chance to burn anything with that device.
[08:15] <Flynsarmy> ahh damn. screens going black on boot again...even with acpi=noirq *grumbles*
[08:16] <ghostnik11> llutz and bekks; thanks for the help and pointing out the obvious, should have just ran the command earlier instead of getting a headache on an old dell computer
[08:16] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, there's sentinella and gnome-power-manager, did u try these two packages? (dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin)
[08:16] <TK5791> morning all. can anyone help with Evernote for Linux?
[08:17] <yagoo> TK5791, uhh.. that's closed source evernote.com
[08:17] <yagoo> TK5791, i used to use the web-edition only..
[08:17] <TK5791> yep... they don't have an official piece of software
[08:17] <TK5791> web edition?
[08:17] <Flynsarmy> aha, got it working by removing vthandoff=7 or similar from the grub mneu
[08:17] <bekks> TK5791: Ask your real question.
[08:17] <llutz_> ghostnik11: you might boot the puppy iso from grub2, so no need to burn it
[08:18] <TK5791> can someone suggest an evernote for linux, that will allow me to connect and use evernote?
[08:19] <bekks> TK5791: Use your webbrowser.
[08:19] <bekks> TK5791: Go to their website, login to your notes, done.
[08:19] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, it's not worth the experimentation.. you really have to dwelve into the documentation about ACPI and power save management works.. the good thing is that suspend2 is being worked on and will be a standard part of linux.. I hope suspend2 can resolve everything about powermanagement for linux..
[08:19] <TK5791> bekks: didn't know they did a web browser version
[08:19] <Rav3nSw0rd> TK5791, have you tried nevernote?
[08:20] <bekks> TK5791: That is their key feature...
[08:20] <ghostnik11> llutz; yeah but i want to install the puppy linux as this dell optiplex is so old that lubuntu is too much for it to handle, so decided to go with puppy linux lucid edition which has support for ubuntu repositories
[08:20] <bekks> ghostnik11: You will loose the entire ubuntu support doing so.
[08:20] <TK5791> Nevernote? no, but I'd be interested in trying... anyone know the terminal command to install?
[08:20] <ghostnik11> bekks: how so?
[08:20] <llutz_> ghostnik11: use a usb thumb-drive then
[08:21] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: the mini display port work out the box for you? I haven't tested mine yet - have a mini dp -> dvi adapter ready to go though. i hear the HDMI isn't working
[08:21] <TK5791> bekks: I'll have a look at their web feature
[08:21] <bekks> ghostnik11: Because Puppy Linux isnt Ubuntu.
[08:21] <TK5791> bekks: thank you
[08:21] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, if you try to put the video off or down.. does the machine hibernate rather than going into standby?
[08:21] <yagoo> TK5791, dunno if they still have your account via web.. i used it long time ago
[08:21] <Rav3nSw0rd> TK5791, here's their current version: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nevernote/files/Current/
[08:22] <ghostnik11> llutz_: its so old that even though i have updated the bios to its latest version, the bios vendor never supported booting from usb drive, which would have made this process easier
[08:22] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: was that meant for me?
[08:22] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: haven't tried mine, either
[08:22] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, you said you were trying boot options
[08:22] <llutz_> ghostnik11: ok, then you'll have to find a cd-burner somewhere as a last resort. good luck
[08:23] <Rav3nSw0rd> what package should I reinstall in ubuntu to fix/repair network settings in system settings? (oneiric)
[08:23] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: I haven't tried hibernate/standby yet. i'm not even sure waht that option i rmeoved did other than stopping me from booting properly
[08:23] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: ahh damn, the mini display port would be connected to the nvidia right? so unless i get bumblebee working correctly, I have no external monitor support
[08:23] <ghostnik11> bekks: yeah i know its not ubuntu but there puppy linux lucid edition is supposedly linked with the ubuntu repositories, so even though i might lose the support i will still be able to get into the repositories and get the things that i need from ubuntu or that come pre installed with ubuntu
[08:23] <psychognite> sir kismet is not working with my rtl8192se wifi driver please help me out...!!
[08:23] <bekks> Rav3nSw0rd: Thats not windows. A reinstallation will not fix a broken configuration.
[08:23] <Rav3nSw0rd> also, is it a known bug for aptitude to display duplicates of everything?
[08:24] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: I believe that's correct, yes
[08:24] <Rav3nSw0rd> bekks, I accidentally installed a package which had conflicts and autoresolved and removed the default package, would like to know what package was removed that I don't have right now that I should have
[08:25] <TK5791> Rav3nSw0rd: thanks
[08:25] <bekks> Rav3nSw0rd: Then take a look at the package manager logs under /var/log/
[08:25] <Rav3nSw0rd> TK5791, np
[08:25] <Eren> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silc-client/+bug/655311
[08:25] <Eren> I have this problem, using 10.0 maverick
[08:26] <Eren> although I've upgraded all the packages, I get the same error
[08:26] <Eren> any ideas?
[08:26] <psychognite> my kismet is not working with wifi driver
[08:26] <psychognite> not detecting
[08:26] <psychognite> help me out
[08:28] <psychognite> kk thnx fr nothin guys
[08:28] <psychognite> :(
[08:29] <bekks> !patience | psychognite
[08:30] <almoxarife> psychognite: how did you install it and on what version?
[08:30] <psychognite> i'll try in searchin first thnx fr ur advice
[08:30] <psychognite> sir
[08:30] <georgetso> hello guys
[08:31] <georgetso> need help here
[08:31] <bekks> !details | georgetso
[08:31] <georgetso> how can I fill all my free disk on ext4 with 0 without damage my existing data?
[08:31] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: do you use unity/shell/fallback?
[08:31] <georgetso> bekks: ubottu: I'm trying :-)
[08:31] <bekks> by creating a file containing just 0, and removing it afterwards.
[08:32] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: I don't. (shh -- I'm actually using mint right now)
[08:32] <georgetso> bekks: i mean all my free space
[08:32] <bekks> georgetso: I just told you :)
[08:32] <georgetso> bekks: ok, i'll try, thanks. I guess that file need to be really large
[08:32] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: so I'm still using gnome 2 :)
[08:32] <georgetso> since my hdd is quite large
[08:32] <bekks> georgetso: Yes. Do you know how to create such a big file?
[08:32] <yagoo> brjannc, doesnt matter what distro it is.. the power management on any linux is poooooorr..
[08:33] <georgetso> bekks: not yet, could you help?
[08:33] <yagoo> brjannc, because of this, people tend to use hdparm on their harddrives in their laptops
[08:33] <almoxarife> yagoo: not true, mine works swell
[08:33] <brjannc> yagoo: ... I don't remember saying anything about mint's power management...
[08:34] <bekks> georgetso: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/delete.me bs=16384; sudo rm /root/delete.me
[08:34] <yagoo> brjannc, there's no such thing a distro's power management.. it's either all generic linux or something i doubt can be tailored to just 1 distro
[08:35] <brjannc> yagoo: I know this, I'm confused as to why this is even a topic of conversation? He just asked if I used unity, and I said no, because I'm using mint.
[08:36] <georgetso> bekks: how can I specify the bs for my disk?
[08:36] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: sorry laptop froze. lucky, 11.10 has an issue on fallback where metacity is always loaded by default
[08:36] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: no 3d affects as a result. the 'fix' i was given was to copy metacity to metacity.bak and softlink compiz as metacity
[08:36] <georgetso> bekks: may I ask, is this tool help? http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/
[08:37] <bekks> georgetso: It is far better to use an even greater block size than your physical blocksize. And I never cared about bleachbit.
[08:37] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, is your laptop the same xps ?
[08:37] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: ah, yeah. metacity can do compositing, but that's about it
[08:37] <georgetso> bekks: thanks, I will try.
[08:37] <Flynsarmy> yagoo: i doubt it. mines a JB Hi-Fi model that isn't sold on the dell website. it's pretty much identical to one of the ones on there that is though. probably is identical in fact
[08:38] <bekks> georgetso: Things like sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/delete.me bs=16384M; sudo rm /root/delete.me; should be ok, too.
[08:38] <georgetso> bekks: cool, I'll go with that
[08:39] <yagoo> lol
[08:39] <yagoo> georgetso, dont do that.
[08:39] <Rav3nSw0rd> sorry, apparently I forgot to kill my NetworkManager; was there a response to "could you try running "sudo apt-get install indicator-network" and tell me what package that it requests that you remove? my log file quite frankly isn't helping me"?
[08:39] <georgetso> yagoo: what?
[08:39] <yagoo> georgetso, bs= shouldnt' ever be that big..
[08:39] <yagoo> pff
[08:39] <bekks> yagoo: Why not? He is going to create a big file filling all free space, then delete it again.
[08:39] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how ot make compiz load by default in gnome-session-fallback instead of metacity short of softlinking compiz as metacity?
[08:39] <bekks> yagoo: Why not. Explain it technically, why the bs shouldnt be set to value corresponding to the drive cache?
[08:40] <yagoo> you can use bs=1M then use the count=
[08:40] <pnorman> bs=1M and a high count may give meaningless results due to caching
[08:40] <llutz_> yagoo: using count in this case is senseless
[08:40] <bekks> pnorman: ack.
[08:40] <yagoo> pnorman, caching? lol.. he's using /dev/zero .. gimme a break
[08:40] <pnorman> well, not meaningless, they show you how fast the cache is, but they don't tell you the sequential read speed of the drive
[08:41] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: btw - definate heat improvement by blacklisting nouveau. still far hotter and louder than It should be but i'll probably never be able to fix that
[08:41] <pnorman> oh, write speed, misread those for read speed
[08:41] <yagoo> pff caching for /dev/zero.. lol
[08:41] <yagoo> man..
[08:41] <sasori> in "rm -rf *.txt" ..what does -rf stands for ?
[08:41] <bekks> sasori: "man rm"
[08:41] <pnorman> sasori: recursive and force. neither which are typically needed for *.txt files
[08:42] <sasori> so rm *.txt is good enough to use without that -rf thing ?
[08:42] <bekks> sasori: What does "recursive" mean?
[08:43] <sasori> recursive = in programing it means repetitive looping or something that repeatedly calling itself
[08:43] <auronandace> bekks: basically, all folders underneath
[08:43] <mvv_> recursive != repetitive looping
[08:43] <bekks> auronandace: I know that, sasori doesnt :)
[08:44] <sasori> ok sorry..am no good in english XD
[08:44] <peepsalot> definition of recursive:  see recursive
[08:44] <llutz_> bekks: see"recursive"
[08:44] <yagoo> FlyingFoX, does your video driver support acceleration?
[08:45] <yagoo> Flynsarmy, ^ you've been toying around with the  video driver.. did you verfiy that glxgears work? (mesa-utils package)
[08:45] <almoxarife> bekks: I think you are seeing it in ubuntu, it also means to dig into a dir/folder within the folder you are in
[08:45] <peepsalot> try googling "recursion" too
[08:46] <bekks> almoxarife: I know recursion means - sasori doesnt.
[08:46] <bekks> +what
[08:46] <yagoo> bekks, they're just showing off.. -r simply means down subdirectories
[08:46] <yagoo> bekks, you don't need -r << it's dangerous and is rarely**** used
[08:46] <bekks> yagoo: Which part of "I know it" is unclear to you? *sigh*
[08:46] <almoxarife> sasori: I think you are seeing it in ubuntu, it also means to dig into a dir/folder within the folder you are in
[08:47] <sasori> i see, so it's safe to use after all , thanks :)
[08:47] <yagoo> bekks, it's a dangerous option.. you should know 100% what it does.. just trying to help ya.. relax
[08:47] <bekks> sasori: NO.
[08:47] <bekks> sasori: DONT use -rf UNLESS you EXACTLY know what you are doing there, and what will be deleted.
[08:47] <yagoo> bekks, you can just ignore him.. he's annoying
[08:47] <yagoo> wtf
[08:48] <auronandace> bekks: perhaps a better way to re-phrase your question to sasori : "Do you know what recursive means?"
[08:48] <llutz_> auronandace: would cause the same reactions
[08:49] <pnorman> you should only use -r if you know you need it.
[08:49] <madoo> hi
[08:49] <madoo> i need hellp
[08:50] <auronandace> madoo: then you need to tell us how to help you
[08:50] <sasori> pnorman: now "that" made me confuse, you mean to see, if i wanna delete all txt files except for one particular txt file, imma use "-r" ?
[08:50] <Starminn> I'm trying to Check for Updates (using Update Manager), and it gives me this message in an error dialog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743040/
[08:50] <bekks> sasori: NO.
[08:50] <pnorman> sasori: no.
[08:51] <madoo> can eny one hear me
[08:51] <madoo> i need hellp
[08:51] <Starminn> madoo, It would appear auronandace can
[08:51] <bekks> !details | madoo
[08:51] <pnorman> Honestly, the best answer is, don't remove files with rm unless you need to or know exactly what you're doing. Something with a GUI is much easier to use and tends to be more forgiving.
[08:51] <auronandace> sasori: if you use -r it will rm the files in the directory your in AND all subdirectories from there
[08:52] <Flynsarmy> oh brjannc - have you noticed low audio volume? Mines at 100% and youtube vids are still pretty quiet. it was fine on windows
[08:52] <Rav3nSw0rd> yay, resolved my issue. NetworkManager stopped after I installed indicator-network, so after uninstalling indicator-network, I simply had to restart the NetworkManager service.
[08:52] <sasori> ok, that's clearer now...thanks guys :D
[08:52] <Starminn> Flynsarmy, Have you checked the YouTube volume in the window?
[08:53] <Flynsarmy> Starminn: yea it's at 100%
[08:53] <Starminn> Flynsarmy, Check the volume output settings. If this is also at 100%, there is a program called GNOME ALSA Mixer that offers much more fine-tuning
[08:54] <Starminn> I'm trying to Check for Updates (using Update Manager), and it gives me this message in an error dialog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743040/ Any assistance is appreciated.
[08:54] <Flynsarmy> Starminn: output voluem is at 100% there too :(
[08:54] <Rav3nSw0rd> FlyingFoX, I've noticed that linux/ubuntu has issues in some computers with audio. Open up a terminal and try messing with alsamixer. I generally find some channels muted, and after unmuting, increases the volume. Googling showed that the different channels contributed power to the headphones/speakers, so by unmuting, more power is generated, equating to greater volume.
[08:55] <bekks> Starminn: 404 means "File not found" - you can ignore those error messages -or- the repository is defective.
[08:55] <Starminn> bekks, Can't ignore them since it doesn't even load the updates with that message, unfortunately.
[08:55] <pnorman> Starminn: Looks like those PPAs don't have anything for 11.10. Not sure about the GPG error
[08:56] <bekks> Starminn: It loads all other updates, except from that PPA.
[08:57] <madoo> hello evry one
[08:57] <madoo> i need help
[08:57] <madoo> can eny one hellp me
[08:57] <pnorman> !ask | madoo
[08:57] <bekks> !details | madoo
[08:57] <Starminn> bekks pnorman: Okay. Howeverm the GPG error is what really gets me. I know the 404s (just hadn't felt like fixing them), it's the GPGs that are causing a problem. I can "sudo apt-get upgrade" via Terminal just fine. But GUI breaks
[08:57] <auronandace> madoo: stop asking for help and tell us your problem
[08:57] <pnorman> Starminn: Can you sudo apt-get update?
[08:57] <bekks> Starminn: The GPGs are NOT causing any problem.
[08:58] <g465> how to fix all error using ubuntu 11.10
[08:58] <madoo> my laptop get so freez when i listen to music and open enter net can eny one hellp me  to fix this brupleam
[08:58] <bekks> g465: "all error"?
[08:58] <Rav3nSw0rd> StaRetji, bekks for the gpg error, try this : http://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error . Please make sure that you trust it first though, I'm not sure if the steps in that article bypass/create fake authentication or gets real authentication.
[08:58] <g465> yes
[08:59] <bekks> g465: Define "all error".
[08:59] <Calinou> any way to disable mouse accel on 11.10?
[08:59] <Calinou> I mean, TOTALLY disable it
[08:59] <hot2trot> does anyone know how I can edit the mplayer config file to make mplayer automatically start in fullscreen?
[09:00] <bekks> Rav3nSw0rd: I am not interested in fixing a warning which doesnt even prevent updates ;)
[09:00] <madoo> can i find hellp please
[09:01] <Gangrel> is there a way to make gnome-shell theme compatible with gnome 3.2?
[09:01] <madoo> hello
[09:01] <Rav3nSw0rd> bekks, eh, to each their own, I get rid of the errors because I have to push enter to get rid of the message in aptitude. That and it clutters up my errors with apt-get update. Getting rid of errors that I can get rid of means that I can see the errors that I still need to get rid of lol.
[09:01] <madoo> i need .... i need hellp
[09:01] <Starminn> bekks, pnorman, Yes. I took care of the PPAs and now it's updating fine, but via Terminal ("sudo apt-get update") I still receive this output at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743046/
[09:01] <Starminn> !patience | madoo
[09:02] <Starminn> Gangrel, What are you talking about?
[09:02] <madoo> yes please can you hellp
[09:03] <g465_> how can i uninstall apt that i cannot used it
[09:03] <bekks> Rav3nSw0rd: Then double check the keys, since you havent verified them, obviously.
[09:03] <pnorman> Starminn: if it works I'd personally leave it alone. If I was wanting to debug it, I'd start by removing PPAs from the list of repositories
[09:03] <bekks> g465: DONT uninstall apt. You will break your system.
[09:03] <madoo> evry time i try to listen to music and open enter net i get my laptop freez
[09:03] <Starminn> pnorman, This has happened since the first time I remember updating via Terminal on 11.10. This is a fresh reinstall so I don't understand the problem.
[09:04] <pnorman> Starminn: My guess is it's something to do with trying to fetch stuff from repos that have nothing for 11.11
[09:04] <Gangrel> Starmin my gnome-shell theme is not compatible with gnome 3.2
[09:04] <sasori> is shell scripting similar to programming using popular programming languages such as e.g java,c,c++,php and etc. ?
[09:04] <Gangrel> is there a way to make it compatible?
[09:05] <madoo> can eny one fix this brupleam
[09:05] <g465_> you mean uninstall whole system of ubuntu
[09:05] <poya> hello
[09:05] <Rav3nSw0rd> Calinou, I'd check xorg.conf ... hmm, unless if 11.10 deprecated that too, I miss init.d lol . I also miss grub 1.x XD
[09:05] <Calinou> no.
[09:06] <Calinou> I'll never touch a protected file, ever
[09:06] <Calinou> broke my system 1 month ago by doing that
[09:06] <Calinou> so NO
[09:06] <g465_> you say on me break the system
[09:06] <Calinou> but, before I changed my mouse
[09:06] <Calinou> it didn't had mouse accel
[09:06] <poya> [hmm]
[09:07] <Starminn> pnorman, I found the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1174127 --- it was "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key number>"
[09:08] <Starminn> pnorman, I ran that command on each of the keys, sudo apt-get update'd and no more key errors. :)
[09:08] <auronandace> Calinou: i know you can change the speed at which the mouse accelerates in xfce
[09:08] <bekks> Starminn: "W" indicated a _W_arning, not an _E_rror.
[09:08] <Starminn> sasori: Similar in what way?
[09:09] <sasori> control structures, looping ?
[09:09] <sasori> variables, costants and, classes, object..etc..
[09:09] <Starminn> bekks, Aha! Well, I never thought of it that way! I just saw, "something wrong happened," and classified it as an error lol.
[09:09] <Starminn> sasori, As Ubuntu uses Bash by default, you should go to #bash -- they're the gurus. ;)
[09:10] <sasori> ok, tnx
[09:11] <auronandace> !dash | Starminn
[09:11] <Starminn> auronandace, So... Ubuntu uses Dash by default, as opposed to Bash..?
[09:11] <auronandace> Starminn: yes
[09:12] <bekks> Starminn: Yes.
[09:12] <Starminn> Well then. Heh, thanks for that. :)
[09:12] <llutz_> Starminn: user-shell is bash, system-shell dash
[09:12] <garden92> how do you open bz2 files?
[09:12] <bekks> Starminn: Open a terminal, and run this: export | grep SHELL
[09:12] <bekks> garden92: You have to unpack it, using bunzip2
[09:12] <Starminn> So... If I execute a script in Terminal as my user, I'm running Bash. But as sudo it's Dash?
[09:12] <llutz_> echo $SHELL
[09:13] <bekks> llutz_: ack.
[09:13] <Starminn> bekks, It output /bin/bash for both my user and sudo
[09:13] <llutz_> Starminn: /bin/sh (which points to dash) is used by default to run scripts, unless you specify your own shebang
[09:14] <skilz> 2011-09-25 13:13:32 socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed: Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned
[09:14] <skilz> Whats that mean?
[09:15] <Starminn> llutz_, So, which am I running as my user, and which am I running as root?
[09:15] <glitchd> i dont want to have to manually type it in..
[09:15] <bekks> skilz: What are you trying to do?
[09:16] <llutz_> Starminn: echo $SHELL
[09:16] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Is there a graphical program available wirh a similar functionality as the command-line command '~$ gsettings'?
[09:16] <llutz_> Starminn: users default shell has nothing to do with the "system-shell" /bin/sh
[09:17] <glitchd> does anyone know of a way to assign a shortcut to my root password?
[09:17] <bullgard4> glitchd: What for do you need that?
[09:18] <glitchd> bullgard4, just for conveinence basically, its just in a virtual machine so im not worried about security
[09:18] <garden92> how do i install firefox update?
[09:18] <llutz_> glitchd: 1st there shouldn't be any root-password at all. 2nd what should a "shortcut" to a  passwd be?
[09:19] <bullgard4> glitchd: I cannot help you. Sorry.
[09:19] <Starminn> llutz_, Yes, I ran the command, and it output bash for both of those. So who uses Dash? Or is that just the non-user/autonomous system-level tasks?
[09:19] <llutz_> Starminn: dash /bin/sh is used whenever no other shell is defined
[09:19] <Starminn> llutz_, Ah, gotcha
[09:19] <glitchd> llee, how do u figure there shouldnt be a password at all? what if i want to install something? i have to do it as root, and to do that i have to enter a root password. and i would like the shortcut to be something like crtl+alt+z
[09:20] <llutz_> !root | glitchd
[09:20] <glitchd> llutz, , how do u figure there shouldnt be a password at all? what if i want to install something? i have to do it as root, and to do that i have to enter a root password. and i would like the shortcut to be something like crtl+alt+z
[09:20] <rostayob> how can i reverse this incredibly dumb behaviour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11395419#post11395419 that makes impossible to compile most of the stuff out there?
[09:20] <llutz_> glitchd: you use sudo and your user-password. root has no password
[09:20] <glitchd> llutz, ok then excuse my terminology, but i wondering the same thing about my user password then
[09:21] <llutz_> glitchd: still my 2nd question aplies
[09:21] <glitchd> llutz, just for conveinence is all
[09:22] <glitchd> llutz, im tired of having to enter it manually..
[09:22] <llutz_> glitchd: you mean something like "press ctrl-alt-p" to input password?
[09:22] <glitchd> llutz, exactly.
[09:23] <glitchd> llutz, any ideas?
[09:23] <llutz_> glitchd: systemsetting keyboard.... no idea
[09:25] <glitchd> llutz, i can assign shortcuts in the keyboard settings but not one to just input preset text into the selected field.
[09:25] <glitchd> llutz, unless i just dont know how.
[09:26] <Flynsarmy> anyone online with a dell xps 15z? you experiencing low volume? any fix?
[09:30] <_ceephax1__> hey, i have a usb stick that im trying to connect to my ubuntu server.  The problem is that i think it was ejected incorrectly from a mac pc at work and i cannot use it at all now.  I have ran "fdisk -l" and it cannot pick it up there but when i do a tail on /var/log/messages i can see the disk being plugged in/removed.  I have tried copying the image by using "dd" but it says no medium found  I have tried formatting it with no l
[09:32] <bekks> _ceephax1__: then show us the ouput of lsb_release and dmesg please - in a nopaste.
[09:32] <bekks> !paste | _ceephax1__
[09:32] <_ceephax1__> bekks: cool hang on
[09:35] <mcbaine> Does anyone knpw the #channel for "The Big Bang Programme" ???? PMessage Me !!!!
[09:36] <_ceephax1__> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743068/
[09:37] <bekks> _ceephax1__: And the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:37] <_ceephax1__> bekks: well it doesnt appear in there, ill make a paste anyway
[09:38] <_ceephax1__> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743069/
[09:39] <bekks> _ceephax1__: and the device is still plugged in?
[09:39] <_ceephax1__> bekks: yes, its plugged in now
[09:39] <_ceephax1__> bekks: mouting attempts result in "no medium found"
[09:39] <bekks> _ceephax1__: whats the output of ls -lha /dev/sdd*
[09:40] <_ceephax1__> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743071/
[09:40] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Is there a graphical program available wirh a similar functionality as the command-line command '~$ gsettings'?
[09:41] <gemunu> My ubuntu application fonts changed in to very ugly rendering in applications. In desktop its ok. I just installed Sysytem settings :(
[09:41] <bullgard4> s/wirh/with/
[09:41] <bekks> _ceephax1__: What does sudo fdisk /dev/sdd tell you?
[09:42] <_ceephax1__> bekks: it says "unable to open /dev/sdd"
[09:42] <bekks> _ceephax1__: Then unplug the device, wait about 20s, plug it back in, and try again.
[09:43] <_ceephax1__> bekks: ok
[09:43] <mmv> dmesg probably has the answer to your problem, _ceephax1__
[09:44] <_ceephax1__> mmv: its a funny on http://paste.ubuntu.com/743068/
[09:44] <bekks> _ceephax1__: thats the old output. we need the new, after unplugging, etc.
[09:44] <_ceephax1__> bekks: ok so plugged it back in, unfortunately same result
[09:45] <enchilado> @stephenfry: ‘So the deal is that Oneiric Ocelot has dropped Gnome in favour of Unity? Is this a Bad Thing or a Step Forward that seems to be the question’
[09:45] <enchilado> Even Stephen Fry doesn’t like Unity.
[09:45] <mmv> nmy bad :)
[09:45] <_ceephax1__> bekks: true, here is the latest http://paste.ubuntu.com/743074/
[09:45] <bekks> enchilado: gnome wasnt dropped. gnome-shell was replaced by unity, thats all.
[09:45] <Flynsarmy> is it possible to change a users home directory? rename /home/foo to /home/bar ?
[09:46] <llutz_> Flynsarmy: man usermod
[09:46] <tito_> anyone please help!! I accidentally deleted a file. How do I recover it? I'll be broke without the file. It's got years of work in it!!
[09:46] <bekks> tito_: Use your backup.
[09:46] <bekks> tito_: Which filesystem?
[09:46] <noVarSquid> Unity is definitely different but I'm getting used to it and have no real problems with it. Just another UI to me
[09:47] <tito_> ext4
[09:47] <llutz_> tito_: there's extundelete, but restoring from backup should be faster
[09:48] <enchilado> bekks: regardless, Stephen Fry doesn’t like Unity. :p
[09:48] <tito_> how do I restore from backup? I'm a beginner :(
[09:49] <llutz_> tito_: get your backup copy and copy it back to the system. you made backup, haven't you?
[09:49] <sasori> if sudo apt-get update has the same contents inside the update manager, how come the update manager windows just pops out,when i already updated my ubuntu box ? :S
[09:49] <bullgard4> tito_: By copying the needed files from your backup medium back to your computer hard disk.
[09:49] <tito_> sigh. no. :(
[09:49] <llutz_> tito_: "years of work" and no backup...  you learned it the hard way
[09:49] <_ceephax1__> llutz_: your mean dude
[09:49] <_ceephax1__> llutz_: he has no backup, dont tease him now haha
[09:50] <nikolam> Anyone using xubuntu installed on kernel module ZFS file system? (available from PPA during install)
[09:50] <tito_> oh man! how do I use extundelete?
[09:50] <_ceephax1__> tito_: back up with version control next time https://github.com/ :)
[09:51] <Flynsarmy> llutz_ the user i'm trying to change hte dir on is the admin user (foo). i can't seem to log in as root - says incorrect password. foo can use sudo fine with that password though
[09:51] <tito_> _ceephax1__: thanx man. would surely do it! :)
[09:51] <_ceephax1__> tito_: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/scroll down to documentation
[09:51] <_ceephax1__> tito_: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[09:52] <_ceephax1__> bekks: any ideas on the usb stick?
[09:52] <tito_> _ceephax1__:thanx. trying it now.
[09:52] <nikolam> ZFS has snapshots , Btrfs, too :) Ext4 have them in development.
[09:53] <llutz_> nikolam: there are tons of ways to backup stuff, but users have to use them. no backup = data not valuable
[09:55] <nikolam> but those regular automatic snapshots are very nice, not using more space if cleared regularly, etc
[09:55] <nikolam> llutz,
[09:55] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: sorry, had to run out for a bit. no, i haven't had any problems with volume; mine gets quite loud at 100%
[09:55] <_ceephax1__> tito_: google docs is mega simple/good for backing up
[09:55] <_ceephax1__> tito_: you can even ftp into it
[09:56] <nikolam> I got used to it on Opensolaris/Openindiana and now I am thinking of putting (X)Ubuntu on ZFS
[09:56] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: i guess i'm going to need to install bumblebee because i need external monitor :( did you install from PPA or git?
[09:56] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: mind if i PM? don't want to spam the channel :)
[09:58] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: I installed from the PPA; I prefer debs when I can get them :) And, I've got to get going; sorry!
[09:58] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: no probs. will you be around tomorrow?
[09:59] <tito_> _ceephax1__: extundelete says "failed to read-only open device "/dev/sdb": Error code 2133571347"
[09:59] <_ceephax1__> tito_: are you as su or "sudo"
[09:59] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: probably!
[09:59] <tito_> I'm as su
[09:59] <Flynsarmy> brjannc: k, talk to you then. thanks for your help :)
[10:00] <fronkenston> Hello, can anybody tell me if Intel Smart Response Technology is available on ubuntu or will be at some time?
[10:00] <_ceephax1__> tito_: did you do  --restore-all ??
[10:00] <tito_> _ceephax1__:no
[10:00] <brjannc> Flynsarmy: sure thing :)
[10:00] <_ceephax1__> tito_: do that
[10:00] <tito_> _ceephax1__:ok
[10:01] <gar_onn> When I start-up virtualBox, I see the 'nVidea' logo and I'm logged out (nVidia is my graphics driver)
[10:01] <tito_> _ceephax1__:dude, same error! :(
[10:02] <phil> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[10:02] <phil> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] (rev a1)
[10:02] <phil> i have trouble with this nvidia card
[10:02] <phil> can someone help to get it enabled
[10:02] <bekks> gar_onn: did you install the nvidia drivers in you virtualbox guest vm?
[10:03] <fronkenston> No ideas about SRT?
[10:03] <gar_onn> bekks, I've got the drivers installed on my computer
[10:04] <gar_onn> should I intall them somewhere else too ?
[10:04] <bekks> gar_onn: No.
[10:04] <callmetim> Hi. I need help getting my gnome-shell top panelto work as it is meant to. Currently it has "Applications" and "Places" instead of the gnome 3 "Activities".
[10:05] <tito_> _ceephax1__:can I use debugfs to recover a file? do you know how?
[10:06] <phil> anybody got a  GeForce GT 555M to work or know how
[10:07] <enigma456> Microphone problem in Skype on Ubuntu 11.10    it doesn't work
[10:08] <mao> Anyone has ever compiled gentoo's sandbox in ubuntu?
[10:09] <enigma456> Microphone problem in Skype on Ubuntu 11.10  anyone have idea? how to fix that
[10:10] <bekks> !patience | enigma456
[10:16] <Atlantic777> Hi! There are sites where I must upload some images but when I open the dialog for selecting images I can see only *.jpg and not *.JPG
[10:16] <Atlantic777> Is there something I could do to change this?
[10:16] <bekks> No.
[10:17] <bekks> Contact the author of the site, to implement support for more image formats.
[10:17] <bekks> And you can type in *.*, that will show you the .JPG too, select it and you are done.
[10:17] <Atlantic777> Hm, some gconf tweaking, grease monkey script which will open custom dialog? :D
[10:17] <Atlantic777> Uhm, I can't chose the *.*
[10:17] <Atlantic777> Not on that site.
[10:18] <bekks> Then type *.* as the name you want to select.
[10:18] <Atlantic777> aham
[10:18] <Atlantic777> I'll try that.
[10:20] <jacob11>  can someone tell me how can I check what ports are certain applications trying to reach?
[10:20] <lesshaste> why do you sometimes get The following packages have been kept back:
[10:20] <lesshaste> ?
[10:20] <lesshaste> jacob11: are these applications running locally or ones trying to connect to your system?
[10:21] <jacob11> running locally and trying to hit remote port, i wanna see those hits
[10:21] <lesshaste> jacob11: an interesting question... I am really not sure how to do that. Does a web search give nothing?
[10:21] <llutz_> lesshaste: updates in progress and dependencies of those packages not ready yet, coculd be one reason to keep them back
[10:22] <lesshaste> llutz: I get quite a long list...  blender gettext git-core libmlt++3 linux-generic linux-headers-generic
[10:22] <lesshaste>   linux-image-generic melt vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse
[10:22] <jacob11> lesshaste, no it doesn't.. or I'm searching wrong terms :)
[10:22] <lesshaste> jacob11: try #linux too
[10:22] <llutz_> jacob11: iptraf, wireshark
[10:22] <jacob11> llutz i only have ssh
[10:22] <jacob11> no gui
[10:22] <jacob11> so wireshark is off
[10:22] <jacob11> iptraf is cli application?
[10:23] <lesshaste> jacob11: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-find-out-active-connections-or-which-ports-are-openlistening-linux ?
[10:23] <llutz_> jacob11: tcpdump, yes cli.
[10:24] <jacob11> thanks lesshaste i'll read this now
[10:24] <llutz_> jacob11: but those usually won't list apps, so you'll need additional tools to track that down i guess
[10:24] <lesshaste> jacob11: netstat -a is the simple answer
[10:24] <jacob11> in the meantime can you help me with tcpdump args llee
[10:24] <lesshaste> llutz: good point
[10:25] <jacob11> llutz, can iptraf do the job ?
[10:26] <jacob11> oh and it is udp port
[10:26] <jacob11> not tcp
[10:26] <llutz_> jacob11: it actually shows connections and traffic, but i'm not sure if it really is the right tool. try netstat, tcpdump first
[10:26] <roby17> ciao
[10:26] <roby17> !list
[10:28] <Qualia> My nose is bleeding, what should I write in terminal?
[10:28] <ikonia> Qualia: please don't mess around
[10:29] <Qualia> :(
[10:29] <Qualia> I forgot for a second that "Arbeit macht frei"
[10:29] <jacob11> Qualia, service nose-bleeding stop
[10:29] <Qualia> sorry
[10:29] <jacob11> :)
[10:29] <Qualia> lol
[10:29] <lesshaste> jacob11: try netstat -ptuna
[10:29] <jacob11> lesshaste, i already tried that
[10:29] <lesshaste> jacob11: from a nice person on #linux :)
[10:29] <jacob11> it seems it only shows tcp ports
[10:29] <jacob11> how about udp
[10:30] <lesshaste> jacob11: I see udp ones listed
[10:30] <lesshaste> when I try it
[10:30] <lesshaste> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:17500           0.0.0.0:*                           1216/dropbox
[10:30] <lesshaste> for example
[10:30] <llutz_> jacob11: -u shows udp aswell
[10:30] <jacob11> ok thanks!
[10:31] <lesshaste> on a similar...is there a nice graphical app that says how much is going in  and out?
[10:31] <lesshaste> how much data
[10:31] <Elohim> Satan, El diablo, Shaytan, Sofia Rosengren 32 years, World Class city Göteborg, she lives in protekted adress,
[10:31] <Elohim> her father name is Johansson, adress Westmarksgränd 21, 44435 Nödinge. blond hair, Satan, El diablo, Shaytan,
[10:32] <jacob11> lesshaste, there are widgets that do that try them :)
[10:32] <lesshaste> can you name a good one?
[10:33] <jacob11> i cant remember now, i used something on kde 3 karamba long time ago
[10:34] <amirwebdev2> hello all! hey, how do i move files that older than 30 days from folder /storage/current/dbdumps/ to /storage/archive/dbdumps ? ... thanks!
[10:34] <bekks> kde4 has a buil in widget.
[10:35] <jacob11> guys i have proprietary sip enryption-decryption service. now it encrypts sip packet on client end, decrypts it on my server and forwards in to sip server
[10:36] <jacob11> it is supposed to work on 9090port
[10:36] <jacob11> so how can I check if it is properly up and running
[10:36] <jacob11> can I use strace on init daemon?
[10:36] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: use ".. find path/ -type f -mtime +30 -exec mv ..."    "man find" for more info
[10:36] <amirwebdev2> i tried
[10:36] <amirwebdev2> but its wont work my syntax is bad
[10:39] <llutz_> amirwebdev2: untested: find /storage/current/dbdumps/ -type f -mtime +30 -exec mv '{}' /storage/archive/dbdumps \;
[10:40] <chroot> hi, dose ubuntu support ARM processor?
[10:40] <amirwebdev2> thanks ill test it now
[10:42] <ssta> chroot: yes, but it's beta at the moment I think
[10:43] <chroot> ssta, i checked the ubuntu homepage , but it is a .tgz file , not a iso file? it seems wired!
[10:43] <sasori> if on windows commmand prompt, i can change the title of the current opened prompt via "TITLE blahblah" ..how bout on ubuntu terminal ?
[10:43] <chroot> and want to install a OS for ARM in qemu, that is what i want to do
[10:44] <ssta> chroot: I'm not sure.  I think it's a disk image
[10:44] <chroot> ssta, haha, it should be , but it is not
[10:45] <ubuntu-lover32> hi all
[10:45] <ssta> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[10:45] <ssta> that's a .img.gz#
[10:45] <ssta> s/#//
[10:45] <ssta> gunzip it and write it to an sdcard I guess...not sure how to persuade qemu to use it
[10:46] <sleeping_chld> hi, I have a question regarding ubuntu 11.10
[10:46] <kanhiya> hello all
[10:46] <ssta> looks like only a very restricted number of arm boards are supported
[10:46] <kanhiya> take a look at here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/795920
[10:46] <ubuntu-lover32> I am wanting to generate public awareness of free software and UBUNTU in my community. Is there any known resources for this (presentation slides, notes, free videos, etc...)?
[10:47] <kanhiya> I am having same problem, how to solve that, i am not a pro in LInux
[10:47] <sleeping_chld> can anyone please tell me how to minimize all the windows in ubuntu 11.10? I tried windows+D and even ctrl+alt+D. It's not working
[10:47] <g0tcha> hey guys, can anyone help me out on how to run a script on bootin ubuntu server?
[10:47] <llutz_> g0tcha: add it to /etc/rc.local
[10:48] <chroot> ssta, what you said are the same to what the ubuntu page said, that sounds complicated, i just want to test if qemu supports ARM?
[10:48] <ubuntu-lover32> Try switching desktop using CTRL+arrow key(laft, right, etc...) and go back to the first later
[10:48] <g0tcha> llutz_, do i just create a file and put the commands inside and put it there, thats it?
[10:48] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Install avant windows decorator & add app show desktop
[10:48] <llutz_> g0tcha: yes, use full pathes in the script to be on the safe side
[10:49] <sleeping_chld> thanks kanhiya.
[10:49] <kanhiya> sorry window navigator
[10:49] <ubuntu-lover32> hi amirwebdev2, I am web developer as well
[10:49] <g0tcha> llutz_, thanks, ill try that now
[10:49] <llutz_> g0tcha: that won't work with any script needing a xsession
[10:49] <sleeping_chld> ubuntu-lover. the point of minimizing the windows is to access the files saved on the desktop. if i go to a different desktop then that might defeat the purpose
[10:50] <ubuntu-lover32> ok, let me think (using google...)
[10:50] <g0tcha> llutz_, im just trying to automaticly add some IP's on boot instead of adding them manually every time after a reboot
[10:50] <dr_willis> saving files on desktop..so old skool.  :-)
[10:51] <ssta> g0tcha: alternatively, you can use cron to run stuff at boot.  More useful that rc.local if you want to do it as a user rather than as root
[10:51] <llutz_> g0tcha: consider using /etc/network/interfaces  for that
[10:52] <ubuntu-lover32> which ubuntu sleeping_chld?
[10:52] <sleeping_chld> 11.10
[10:52] <sleeping_chld> i think unity
[10:52] <ubuntu-lover32> ctrl+alt+d works for me...
[10:52] <luca_bi> serv identify LucaBiolcati fili1982
[10:53] <sleeping_chld> strange. does not work for me
[10:53] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: It also didn't work for me,
[10:53] <ubuntu-lover32> noted. I'm not sure but I'll try to help. I am also using unity o 11.10
[10:53] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: may be because of compiz
[10:53] <g0tcha> ssta, unfortunatly, i do need root
[10:54] <g0tcha> llutz_, how do i use /etc/network/interfaces with ipv6?
[10:54] <sleeping_chld> compiz? what's that?
[10:54] <sleeping_chld> i'm sorry very new to linux. just installed ubuntu last night :)
[10:54] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Thing that worked for me is avant Window Naviagtor & app show desktop worked well for me
[10:54] <ubuntu-lover32> you could try to alt+SPACEBAR to pull the window menu and minimize from there
[10:55] <llutz_> g0tcha: same way you do with ipv4, man 5 interfaces
[10:55] <luca_bi> #php
[10:55] <luca_bi> join #php
[10:55] <sleeping_chld> ubuntu-lover, that is to minimize the current window, what if you have 5 windows open? each will have to be minimized seperately
[10:55] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: IT is a good windows navigator, i hope you will love it
[10:56] <luca_bi> how can I enter in another channel?
[10:56] <ubuntu-lover32> do this with each window
[10:56] <ubuntu-lover32> ?
[10:56] <sleeping_chld> ok. thanks kanhiya. i'm not sure what a windows navigator is. i'll search for it. but thanks anyways
[10:56] <llutz_> g0tcha: like "iface ethX inet6 static \n address 2002::whatever"
[10:56] <ssta> g0tcha: see: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/ for example
[10:56] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Go to software center> search for avant> that's it
[10:57] <sleeping_chld> sure. i'll do it
[10:57] <ubuntu-lover32> is there any irc channel that is particular to building awareness about linux?
[10:57] <sleeping_chld> one more question. would you have an idea about wine?
[10:57] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: install both settings & navigator
[10:57] <g0tcha> thanks guys
[10:58] <luca_bi> which is the command for going into another channel?
[10:58] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: It is a windows emulator, it can run windows game, but not every game & need improvement
[10:58] <VENdix> Hi, where can i find the full themes for ubuntu 11.10?
[10:58] <ubuntu-lover32> "/join"
[10:58] <ubuntu-lover32> example: "/join #ubuntu"
[10:59] <luca_bi> http://filibertobiolca.altervista.org/
[10:59] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Install stable version of wine or install Play on LInux it is frontend for WIne
[10:59] <kanhiya> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39055
[10:59] <sleeping_chld> i was wondering if Internet Explorer 8 would run on it. There's a site I need to access regularly that runs on IE only. unfortunately
[10:59] <mike-ww> hi folks
[11:00] <mike-ww> i have a question
[11:00] <ubuntu-lover32> hi mike-ww
[11:00] <ubuntu-lover32> ask
[11:00] <mike-ww> what do we call $[expression]
[11:00] <kanhiya> ubottu: When it is going to be solved ? :(
[11:00] <ssta> sleeping_chld: I doubt it will run reliably.  IE uses a lot of undocumented API stuff.  You might be better eith a proper windows install in an emulator (virtualbox perhaps)
[11:00] <ubuntu-lover32> try "alias"
[11:01] <mike-ww> in bash, we can use $[2**10] to compute 2^10
[11:01] <mike-ww> what other calculations can we do via $[]
[11:01] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: If u want to run IE efficiently than i suggest you to switch to Windows  when you need to do specific task
[11:01] <Beefcakes> hello, can anyone help me get my webcam working with Ubuntu?
[11:01] <ubuntu-lover32> man bc
[11:02] <sleeping_chld> virtualbox is the name of the emulator?
[11:02] <oCean> !who | ubuntu-lover32
[11:02] <ubuntu-lover32> !?
[11:02] <ssta> sleeping_chld: yes.  It's a virtual machine
[11:02] <sleeping_chld> is it easy to install windows in it?
[11:02] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Also virtualbox will take more processing power & RAM also
[11:02] <oCean> ubuntu-lover32: the bot is a little slow, please start lines with the nick of the person you are talking to
[11:02] <mike-ww> ubuntu-lover32, i mean through $[], not using bc
[11:02] <ubuntu-lover32> oCean:  i see... thank you
[11:03] <mike-ww> ubuntu-lover32, you know, i am learning bash
[11:03] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: YOu will only LOAD your computer with these stuffs :)
[11:03] <oCean> mike-ww: try ##bash channel
[11:03] <mike-ww> thx
[11:03] <ssta> mike-ww: see the part of the bash manpage headed ARITHMETIC EVALUATION
[11:03] <ubuntu-lover32> mike-ww:  I am very excited for you. Bash is great.
[11:03] <oCean> mike-ww: actually, the channel's name is #bash (single #)
[11:04] <ubuntu-lover32> mike-ww:  How long have you been learning..... or ..... how far are you?
[11:04] <sleeping_chld> ok. thanks ssta.
[11:04] <mike-ww> ubuntu-lover32, not long
[11:04] <oCean> ubuntu-lover32: please keep this channel on tech support, use #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[11:04] <Da_Wi> hi, short question (for a cautious guy). I want to put a new ubuntu on my machine and i made the full backup. However, I'm concered about gpg (because if I loose my keys, I'm busted). I did an "gpg -export a > file1" ;  "gpg -export $adress > file2" (with two adress) and the same for "gpg --export-secret-key -a > file3" and  "gpg -exprt-secret-key -a $adress > file4". This is enough, right? (this is my first mikration of gpg, thus this means panic for me :/)
[11:04] <sleeping_chld> kanhiya, i'll try virtualbox. hope it doesn't make it too slow
[11:04] <mike-ww> ubuntu-lover32, i merely picked up some in my spare time
[11:04] <sleeping_chld> i dnt understand why ppl make these websites which r IE dependent. lazy ppl.
[11:05] <ssta> Da_Wi: take a copy of secring and pubring too
[11:05] <Da_Wi> ssta, okay. in my home I asume?
[11:05] <ubuntu-lover32> sleeping_chld: i can think of more meaningful term to be used here
[11:05] <ssta> sleeping_chld: it's because they don't know better.  But a real discussion of that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:06] <madoo> hello
[11:06] <madoo> i need hellp
[11:06] <madoo> can eny one hellp me
[11:06] <kanhiya> sleeping_chld: Sure you can try, i also tried that and installed Windows xp but didn't get performance , by the way virtual is virtual :)
[11:06] <ssta> Da_Wi: ~/.gnupg IIRC
[11:06] <madoo> i need hellp plz
[11:06] <ubuntu-lover32> madoo: i can
[11:06] <oCean> !ask | madoo
[11:06] <madoo> thankiss
[11:06] <Da_Wi> ssta, yeah. Just found it. *copying* thx. Am I now safe?
[11:07] <ssta> Da_Wi: well, you can just restore those files and your keys are safe
[11:07] <kanhiya> how to stop Zeidiest or name like that, logging my private folders
[11:07] <madoo> i need program like imsh or kaza or bareshare
[11:07] <Da_Wi> ssta, okay. Thx. I think so too (but I'm parnoid if it comes to pgp :/)
[11:07] <madoo> to download song and move
[11:07] <ssta> Da_Wi: as you should be :)
[11:08] <coz_> madoo,   is a torrent application on the system?
[11:08] <ssta> !p2p | madoo
[11:08] <Da_Wi> madoo, ktorrent (but this sounds illegal ... You mean a progam for torrent to download Images of linux distributions, right?)
[11:08] <madoo> can u tell me plz
[11:08] <coz_> madoo,   are you on kde or gnome?
[11:09] <kanhiya> madoo: You can download songs & movies using torrents or many site like mediafire , megaupload etc
[11:09] <Da_Wi> ssta, thx. Bye and much thanks for help
[11:09] <coz_> madoo,   there is a default application named  Transmission for downloading  these things  if you are on gnome
[11:10] <madoo> no i am gnome
[11:10] <theadmin> Please avoid discussing internet piracy, i.e. acquiring paid content in an illegal way. Thank you.
[11:10] <madoo> i have anuther  brupleam
[11:11] <madoo> my pc get so slow when i listen to song with open net
[11:11] <kanhiya> i want that ubuntu don't include my private folders in logging or history, how to do that?
[11:11] <Multbrelch> Question: I have Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and no other OS. Is it easy to install a second 11.10 on some empty partition? What about grub? has somebody some experiences
[11:12] <JLuc_> hello
[11:12] <ssta> Multbrelch: IIC the installer gives you the option to do just that
[11:12] <madoo> hello
[11:12] <dr_willis> Multbrelch:  why do you need to do that?  and grub shold see the other os fine
[11:12] <theadmin> Multbrelch: It should be easy enough, and GRUB will be automatically reconfigured. Be aware though that both entries being named "Ubuntu 11.10" it'll be rather... difficult to guess which is which at first
[11:13] <kanhiya> multibrelch, i tried to install two linux on same pc or drive , i was able to install only one at a time :(, but it was long time ago
[11:13] <JLuc_> plz : i'm using ubuntu & unity out of the box but ALT TAB is sluggish to swap top app : is there another way to swap app ?
[11:13] <Multbrelch> Thanks all. The reason is. Somebody will obtain an Ubuntu installation from me. The person has no idea about computers. The second OS would be an emergency system ...
[11:13] <dr_willis> you could tell the 2nd install to not install any bootloader. and let the firts os handel it all.
[11:13] <cablop> i have a system installed with luks encryption, i need to be able to remotely enter the pasword and decrypt it via ssh
[11:14] <dr_willis> Multbrelch:  you can set up a /boot/ partion and a grub2 config to boot an iso file from /boot/ as an emergancy boot/reinstall method
[11:14] <Multbrelch> theadmin, okay, I see. But one needs then to configure grub
[11:14] <theadmin> Multbrelch: Yeah, won't be too hard anyway
[11:14] <Multbrelch> dr_gonzo, ah sounds interesting
[11:15] <cablop> Multbrelch, dr_willis, another option si sto install the bootloader of the second system in its own partition and not the disk mbr, that way you are chaining the bootloaders
[11:15] <dr_willis> ive installed very fast sing that trick
[11:15] <theadmin> Multbrelch: Also, you don't really need another Ubuntu as an "emergency system", just use something more... minimalistic... Or just get the SystemRescueCD, actually.
[11:15] <Multbrelch> dr_gonzo, but this emergency iso file needs to connect automatically to the internet since I remote control the PC from far far away...
[11:16] <dr_willis> or just give him  a usb stick with a emergancy os on it
[11:16] <Multbrelch> cablop, true ...
[11:16] <dr_willis> i think the grub2/iso method can use a persistant save file..
[11:16] <cablop> that way in the emergency system you are able to upgrade its kernels and initramfs and so on... but that also means that other system is going to hold its own /boot/ and so on
[11:16] <chroot> hi, what is the difference between kvm and qemu in ubuntu?
[11:16] <Multbrelch> theadmin, but the emergency OS needs to connect automatically to the internet such that I can do TeamViewer etc
[11:17] <dr_willis> but if the hd or grub is the issue.. well none of those methods may work.. live usb would be best
[11:17] <cablop> yes, because you remotely has no grub access
[11:17] <cablop> except if you are with the guy there and saying him what to do to boot the machine
[11:18] <Beefcakes> hi any expert here who can help me set up my machine's webcam?:)
[11:18] <Multbrelch> yep
[11:18] <dr_willis> Beefcakes:  plug it in.. install/run cheese.. see if it works..
[11:18] <cablop> and besides teamviewer put a nx on that ubuntu, it is better, and also open-ssh server
[11:18] <Multbrelch> cablop, well this is done like this via phone. I would even print out a photo which shows grub and what the person needs to do in an emergency case
[11:19] <Multbrelch> cablop, what is nx?
[11:19] <dr_willis> !nx
[11:19] <Multbrelch> thanks
[11:19] <dr_willis> alternative to vnc
[11:19] <cablop> Multbrelch: the key is not to share /boot folder or the initramfs are going to be overwritten
[11:20] <alteregod> how to share internet connection with two interfaces?
[11:20] <Multbrelch> But TeamViewer is something the people can easily understand, ssh is definitely not the choice ... although I would like
[11:20] <cablop> Multbrelch: you can use freenx or the closed source nx, i never used freenx but used the nx thing and it is so nice
[11:20] <dr_willis> install ssh for you... not them.. ;)
[11:20] <Multbrelch> really?
[11:20] <Multbrelch> :)
[11:20] <madoo> hello
[11:20] <theadmin> Multbrelch: TeamViewer is definetly simple, although I honestly had problems with it on Ubuntu (black screen displayed when you connect to an Ubuntu machine :/)
[11:21] <dr_willis> if yo can ssh in and fix things - that makes it easier
[11:21] <Multbrelch> dr_gonzo, in the extreme case they need to open a shell etc ... well this gets crazy then
[11:21] <dr_willis> !tab
[11:21] <cablop> openssh is just a server, so you can open remote terminals with that machine ip address, easies than running a terminal inside teamviewer or vnc or nx
[11:21] <madoo> i wanna something fix my ubuntu its to bad
[11:21] <Multbrelch> theadmin, here it workes very well
[11:21] <theadmin> Multbrelch: Guess it's fixed then :)
[11:21] <theadmin> madoo: You realize that made no sense, right? What is the problem exactly?
[11:21] <dr_willis> i ssh to my home pc from my cellphone
[11:22] <cablop> nx is not vnc like, vnc will transmit you the screen, nx is more like a client-server thing, more like a thinclient
[11:22] <Multbrelch> Ubuntu 11.04, Linux Mint 11.10, 32 and 64 bit <= TV is working in all these cases
[11:23] <cablop> Multbrelch: i suggest you to, install the rescue system in its own partition, all, but maybe set a swap for it if the user use the main for hibernation
[11:23] <theadmin> Multbrelch: I can also confirm it works fine with the OSes I run xD Which are Microsoft Windows 7 32-bit and ArchLinux Testing 32-bit.
[11:23] <madoo> evry time i try to setup program to download something its give me error
[11:23] <cablop> Multbrelch: then install the grub in its partition and not the mbr
[11:23] <Multbrelch> cablop, I will think about it
[11:23] <cablop> Multbrelch: for remote assitance you are going to like openssh server there too, and also teamviewer and nx
[11:23] <szal> madoo: what program?  what error?
[11:24] <mah454> hello ...
[11:24] <Multbrelch> cablop, I would install the whole bunch of software
[11:24] <mah454> How can mandatory this  : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-448614.html
[11:24] <Gskellig> someone ban lisa_
[11:24] <cablop> Multbrelch: don't share the /boot between both installs, because you are going to overwrite the initramfs of one wirth the other breaking the purpose of the rescue system or making the main unbootable
[11:24] <Gskellig> bot pming me about sex
[11:24] <Gskellig> seriously annoying
[11:25] <szal> Gskellig: -> #ubuntu-ops
[11:25] <Multbrelch> cablop, theadmin and dr_willis , thanks for comments !!!
[11:25] <cablop> Multbrelch: nx and openssh server doesn t come by default
[11:25] <ikonia> Gskellig: pm me the details
[11:25] <Multbrelch> cablop, okay
[11:25] <madoo> its like i cant setup enything befor i remove some program
[11:25] <madoo> but i dont know
[11:26] <Multbrelch> cablop, I just copy and pasted your comments into some file :-)
[11:26] <cablop> hehe, ok :)
[11:26] <madoo> i did ubuntu in all my hard i didnt do swap or home file
[11:26] <madoo> a thats good
[11:26] <Gskellig> =D
[11:27] <cablop> now my question again
[11:27] <Multbrelch> There are sex bots? Funny ...
[11:27] <dr_willis> madoo:  the ubuntu installer makes a swap by defalt. unless you told it not to.
[11:27] <cablop> i have a system encrypted with luks, that one asks me the password at boot, but i need to be able to boot via network using ssh
[11:27] <ikonia> cablop: boot via ssh ????
[11:27] <madoo> tell me the right plz did i have to do swap or make ubuntu setup atomatic
[11:28] <ikonia> madoo: what ?
[11:28] <cablop> ikonia: well, to turn the machine on, but enter the password via ssh
[11:28] <madoo> its mean no problem
[11:28] <cablop> the machne is headless
[11:28] <dr_willis> madoo:  check output of sudo fdisk -l, and free command . see if you have swap
[11:28] <VeNoM> you guys know owt about back track ?
[11:28] <ikonia> cablop: you'll need to setup a keypair based system for your luks system, or manually mount the luks disk from the ssh prompt
[11:28] <ikonia> VeNoM: the guys in #backtrack-linux do
[11:28] <madoo> why when i open mp3 with enternet my laptop get slow to much
[11:28] <dr_willis> VeNoM:  we know it has its own support channels...
[11:29] <VeNoM> how would i uses these support channles
[11:29] <ikonia> VeNoM: join #backtrack-linux
[11:29] <scotty^> madoo: Which kernel are you using?
[11:29] <Beefcakes> hi any expert here who can help me set up my machine's webcam?:)
[11:30] <ikonia> !webcam | Beefcakes
[11:30] <VeNoM> dunno
[11:30] <madoo> gnome
[11:30] <dr_willis> i know that it seems many users who come here usig backtrack, really dont have the skills to use backtrack. ;)
[11:30] <cablop> ikonia:  both, password to launch the system and then a keyfile to decrpt the other partitions
[11:30] <VeNoM> yh gnome
[11:30] <Beefcakes> thanks ubottu/ikonia
[11:30] <VeNoM> well the link u sent me dosent work#
[11:30] <dr_willis> Beefcakes:  what have you done so far to set it up?
[11:30] <ikonia> cablop: password to launch the systm ??
[11:30] <cablop> ikonia: i mean to decrypt the main partition
[11:31] <scotty^> madoo:  Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:31] <ikonia> VeNoM: type /join #backtrack-linux - if you can't do that, join #freenode and ask for help
[11:31] <madoo> i open the trmnal and i get this
[11:31] <madoo> 10.10
[11:32] <VeNoM> says connot send to channle
[11:32] <madoo> wanna see what i get
[11:32] <ikonia> VeNoM: /join #freenode and ask for help
[11:32] <VeNoM> #freenode
[11:32] <madoo> see
[11:32] <madoo> Usage:
[11:32] <madoo>  fdisk [options] <disk>    change partition table
[11:32] <madoo>  fdisk [options] -l <disk> list partition table(s)
[11:32] <madoo>  fdisk -s <partition>      give partition size(s) in blocks
[11:32] <madoo> Options:
[11:32] <FloodBot1> madoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <madoo>  -b <size>                 sector size (512, 1024, 2048 or 4096)
[11:33] <dr_willis> madoo:  the command was 'sudo fdisk -l' thats a lower case L for list
[11:33] <dr_willis> madoo:  and use a pastebin site. and look for a swap entry in the output
[11:34] <madoo> what u mean tell me what i can do
[11:34] <cablop> ikonia, afaik i need to launch a ssh server on the nitramfs of that machine, right?
[11:34] <ikonia> cablop: no
[11:34] <ikonia> cablop: you can't do that as there is no network at that point
[11:34] <szal> madoo: for starters, you could copy & paste if given commands to execute instead of guessing if your screen font sucks ;)
[11:34] <cablop> ikonia, then launch network and ssh-server
[11:35] <ikonia> cablop: no
[11:35] <ikonia> cablop: you can't do that from initramfs
[11:36] <madoo> no my scren is good
[11:37] <scotty^> madoo: Ubuntu 10.10 has a 2.6.35 kernel.  If playing back an MP3 over the network slows your laptop considerably more than playing an MP3 locally, and you have a multi-core CPU, you might want to try Ubuntu 11.04 with the 2.6.38 kernel (or Ubuntu 11.10) with the 3.0 kernel.  I recall reading somewhere that the 2.6.37 kernel introduced better allocation of network load across CPU cores.
[11:37] <dr_willis> madoo:  the command    swapon -s     will give info about swap also
[11:38] <madoo> thats broplem did with my mp3 not mp3 on net its mean i uosed my music
[11:39] <madoo> ubuntu 11.10 its net book i dont want thats
[11:39]  * dr_willis has no idea what you just said madoo 
[11:39] <almoxarife> CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, reports they have reconfirmed the data first reported in September showing neutrinos traveling faster than light -- something the Theory of Relativity says should be impossible. <-- einstein was wrong!
[11:40] <madoo> its like win 7
[11:40] <szal> !ot | almoxarife
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> almoxarife  the atomic bomb and GPS are proof that einstein was right
[11:40] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  i think it was shown last week cern was wrong.. their clocks was off.. and its ot.. ;)
[11:41] <kilopopo> hi
[11:41] <kilopopo> !gnome3
[11:41] <scotty^> madoo:  Are you saying that playing your local MP3 files becomes slow while browsing the web?
[11:41] <madoo> do u want me download ubuntu 11.10
[11:41] <madoo> yes
[11:42] <szal> madoo: we first want you to make sense when trying to explain your problem
[11:42] <madoo> when i open my mp3 with web its make my laptop slow and move hard
[11:42] <rootux> I tried to change a value (in a game based on java) with SCANMEM then appears the following: info: 20/116 searching  0x88aa000 -  0x88af000...........ok
[11:42] <rootux> info: 21/116 searching  0x9de2000 -  0xb7e6000..scanmem: target_memory_info_array.c:66: allocate_enough_to_reach: Assertion `array->max_needed_bytes >= bytes_needed' failed.error: Killed by signal 6.
[11:43] <szal> madoo: "open mp3 with web"?  huh?
[11:43] <ikonia> madoo: possible under resourced or your network performance is poor
[11:43] <rootux> what can I do?
[11:43] <szal> madoo: if it's too difficult in English, join #ubuntu-arabic
[11:43] <dr_willis> never answer just yes or no.. due to lag you may get asked 6+  questions and we dot know whixh one yes went to...
[11:43] <madoo> see
[11:43] <scotty^> madoo:  Ubuntu 11.10/s Unity is not strictly the old Netbook Remix, and it has improved since 11.04 (which was also not striclty the old Netbook Remix).  Nevertheless, if you dislike it there are people on here who can tell you how to install GNOME-shell on 11.10.
[11:43] <madoo> no way
[11:44] <dr_willis> bye all bbl.
[11:45] <madoo> 11.4 its good or its the same
[11:45] <rootux> I tried to change a value (in a game based on java) with SCANMEM then appears the following: info: 20/116 searching  0x88aa000 -  0x88af000...........ok info: 21/116 searching  0x9de2000 -  0xb7e6000..scanmem: target_memory_info_array.c:66: allocate_enough_to_reach: Assertion `array->max_needed_bytes >= bytes_needed' failed.error: Killed by signal 6.  ---- What can I do? can you help me, pls
[11:46] <L0rD`> reminds me of the story of that girl, who hacked back, knowing the root pass is toor ;)
[11:46] <ikonia> rootux: how did you change a value ?
[11:46] <ikonia> L0rD`: not interested in stories here
[11:46] <scotty^> madoo: Or are you trying to play your local MP3's in your web browser?  That's a bad idea - use Rhythmbox or Banshee or Totem.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> or audacious
[11:47] <cablop> well, ikonia, it seems it is possible http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1648319&page=2
[11:47] <rootux> ikonia, i can't change the value (or the number) in the moment because it didn't find the value i want to change
[11:48] <ikonia> rootux: how are you trying to change a value
[11:48] <ikonia> cablop: I told you it was possible nad how to do it
[11:48] <spitzi> Hi all. I installed Win7, then ran boot-repair from the Ubuntu 11.10 live CD to restore the grub menu. Although boot-repair finished successfully, it is still the Win7  boot menu that comes up, not grub. When invoking "update-grub", I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)." What should I do ?
[11:48] <madoo> i uose them for my local mp3 and i open something like youtube .... i get evrything slow and the songs cut and play and do thats to long
[11:48] <ikonia> cablop: I told you starting ssh servers via initramfs wasn't the way to do this.
[11:48] <rootux> ikonia, but if it finds the value it type for example: set 9999
[11:48] <ikonia> rootux: how are you trying to change the value
[11:49] <rootux> ikonia, i type: set 9999 (for example)
[11:49] <cablop> hehe, then ikonia, what is the metod? because that one seems pretty old and debian based, and seems to have conflicts with plymouth
[11:49] <cablop> should i install a debian server instead?
[11:49] <ikonia> that won't do anything
[11:49] <ikonia> cablop: I'm not going over it again - do you really need encypted disks ? why ar eyou making this hard
[11:49] <rootux> ikonia, it do
[11:50] <ikonia> rootux: it doesn't, but ok, if you think it does, fine
[11:50] <rootux> ikonia, if i start i flash game for example supertux
[11:50] <scotty^> madoo:  It sounds like your system is under-resourced.  What CPU do you have and how much RAM do you have?
[11:50] <rootux> ikonia,  if search for the pid
[11:51] <cablop> ikonia, well, we are going to use that server to hold a subversion repository and websites backups, both contains sensitive data, pretty sensitive data
[11:51] <rootux> ikonia, then i start scanmem with: sudo scanmem
[11:51] <ikonia> cablop: then you should have a basic idea of what you're doing if the data is that sensative
[11:51] <rootux> ikonia, then i enter the pid of the game (for example supertux)
[11:51] <madoo> my cpu is core duo my ram is 512 laptop h.p 530
[11:52] <cablop> ikonia, i used disk encryption for desktop and laptops... but never for a headless server... i know i can just put the machine close to another and just plug monitor and keyboard when booting
[11:52] <scotty^> Core Duo what?
[11:52] <rootux> ikonia, and then if scanmem found the value i type: set 9999 (e.g)
[11:52] <spitzi> Any help with my grub problem would be much appreciated. Thanks.
[11:53] <ikonia> rootux: that not how you set memory in java
[11:53] <scotty^> 512MB RAM should be enough for now, but upgrading to 1GB (if possible) may help.
[11:54] <alteregod> ^512mb enough lol
[11:54] <rootux> ikonia,  and how can i change values (memory) in java ?
[11:55] <rootux> ikonia, the first process i describe was a flash game :)
[11:55] <madoo> can you tell me what is good for me
[11:55] <ikonia> rootux: look at -mnmax -nmmin and -maxpermsize
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> spitzi, Are you sure that your Win7 install didn't wipe all of your partitions?
[11:55] <ikonia> sorry mnmin
[11:55] <rootux> ikonia, in scanmem ? sorry i' m a newbie :(
[11:56] <spitzi> SideWinder1 - heavens no, I only installed it on an empty partition, where Ubuntu used to be, after deleting that partition.
[11:56] <ikonia> no, as the java startup options
[11:56] <ikonia> rootux: why are you trying to change the memory options ?
[11:56] <scotty^> alteregod:  Yeah, I doubt that 512 millibits of RAM would be much use :)
[11:56] <madoo> hello
[11:57] <rootux> ikonia, i only want to check i a java game thats everything it's just fun or i'm on the wrong track?
[11:57] <scotty^> in fact I'm pretty sure bits are whole numbers :)
[11:57] <ikonia> rootux: why are you trying to change these options ?
[11:57] <rootux> ikonia, i only want to cheat ohps
[11:57] <ikonia> rootux: cheat ohps ?
[11:58] <scotty^> madoo:  What model is your Core Duo?
[11:58] <rootux> ikonia, i want to cheat that's everything
[11:58] <rootux> ikonia, in a game
[11:58] <ikonia> rootux: I'm not wasting any more time on this, you want me to help you cheat on a game
[11:59] <Beefcakes> hello, I have added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~intuitivenipple/+archive/ppa but I can't seem to do apt-get install r5u870-dkms (one of the packages there)
[11:59] <ikonia> rootux: you are wasting your time with scanmem trying to "cheat" on a game
[11:59] <rootux> ikonia, sorry
[11:59] <madoo> i dont know can you tell me haw i can know and tell you
[11:59] <theadmin> rootux: Cheating is no fun -- it's like cutting up a manequin and calling yourself a murderer.
[11:59] <ikonia> theadmin: please don't
[11:59] <theadmin> ikonia: Okay, sorry.
[12:00] <ikonia> Beefcakes: contact the PPA owner
[12:00] <theadmin> rootux: Basically, this is honestly a wrong channel for this, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Beefcakes> ikonia: oh. thats it?
[12:00] <theadmin> Beefcakes: Are you sure that this package is available for your Ubuntu version?
[12:00] <spitzi> BRB
[12:01] <ikonia> Beefcakes: he's the only one who can fix issues with his PPA
[12:01] <Beefcakes> ikonia: it's listed in his archives, i mean I should be able to get it right?
[12:01] <scotty^> madoo:  Open a terminal, type cd .. then type cd .. again
[12:01] <scotty^> then type cd proc
[12:01] <Beefcakes> theadmin: i actually dont know much of what I'm doing, the drivers of my laptop's webcam are supposedly in this PPA.
[12:01] <scotty^> then type cat cpuinfo
[12:01] <mmv> scotty^: talk about a roundabout way of doing things, what's wrong with cat /proc/cpuinfo?
[12:02] <madoo> i did but i get notting
[12:03] <scotty^> madoo:  Try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:03] <theadmin> Beefcakes: I see, did you check Ubuntu's "restricted drivers" tool?
[12:03] <scotty^> mmv:  Yeah that will work.  I thought the other way might be more educational for him.
[12:03] <ztane> any ideas on how to make 11.10 grub working on EFI ASUS 1215B; just does not seem to try grub at all no matter what I try. I can boot with usb stick, use linux+initrd commands on grub command line to boot, and it works fine...
[12:03] <Beefcakes> theadmin: where can I find that? upon refreshing laptop I remmeber this worked last time but I was using an older version
[12:04] <theadmin> Beefcakes: Eh, I'm honestly not sure, which Ubuntu version are you running?
[12:04] <Beefcakes> theadmin: the latest I think. whats that command again to find out?
[12:04] <theadmin> Beefcakes: That'd be "lsb_release -sc"
[12:04] <madoo> Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2050  @ 1.60GHz
[12:04] <madoo> this
[12:04] <madoo> cash 2048
[12:04] <Beefcakes> lucid
[12:04] <scotty^> madoo:  Thats it.
[12:05] <theadmin> Beefcakes: Well, then it's under System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:05] <madoo> yes
[12:05] <scotty^> madoo:  except I think u mean "cache 2048"
[12:05] <madoo> scotty .... athats is bad
[12:06] <Beefcakes> theadmin: the window just says No proprietary drivers are in use on this ysstem
[12:06] <madoo> yes it is
[12:06] <theadmin> Beefcakes: I see, hm, well.
[12:06] <Beefcakes> theadmin: nothing for me to reset
[12:06] <theadmin> Beefcakes: I assume you have verified your camera ain't working with the standard software set?
[12:06] <Beefcakes> theadmin: yes cheese, xawtv both dont work
[12:07] <scotty^> madoo:  Your system should be able to handle Ubuntu and play a local MP3 while browsing the web.
[12:07] <madoo> tell me a thats model can be good with ubuntu11.10
[12:07] <madoo> what u mean
[12:07] <kilopopo> hey
[12:08] <theadmin> Beefcakes: I see, well, honestly, no idea >.<
[12:08] <scotty^> madoo:  I mean everything should be OK.  I'm not sure what the problem is.
[12:08] <madoo> you mean ubuntu is good for my laptop or no
[12:08] <theadmin> madoo: 512 meters of ram is meh, try something more minimalistic... Give Xubuntu a shot.
[12:09] <sasori> hi, i went to ~/.ssh/ and i saw this file named "known_hosts"  ,,what is that?
[12:09] <madoo> maybe the problem is i am new uoser in ubuntu and i have to know good abutit
[12:09] <mmv> sasori: man ssh has a FILES section
[12:09] <scotty^> madoo:  As I said earlier, a later kernel such as the one in Ubuntu 11.10 may help.  If this strains your system too much it could be due to you 512MB of RAM, in which case Xubuntu or Lubuntu would be a better choice as they use "lighter" desktop environments that need less RAM.
[12:09] <sasori> oki
[12:10] <ShawnRisk> how do I setup a file server in Ubuntu Server 11.04 64bit and connect that to a web server?
[12:10] <Beefcakes> theadmin: its fine. would you have any idea why I am not able to get the r5u870-dkms package from https://launchpad.net/~intuitivenipple/+archive/ppa?
[12:10] <theadmin> scotty^: Then again, 11.10 comes with "Unity" which uses a heckload more of RAM.
[12:10] <somsip> sasori: everytime you connect to a host you get the prompt "Connect yes/no/alwats". theat's where they go if you remember them
[12:11] <madoo> scotty thank you
[12:11] <zfe> hello
[12:11] <zfe> how can i remove unity?
[12:11] <sasori> somsip: tnx
[12:11] <kilopopo> i get bios post fails when i run ubuntu 11.10
[12:11] <somsip> !nounity | zfe
[12:11] <theadmin> Beefcakes: There is no such package for your Ubuntu version in this PPA.
[12:11] <kilopopo> does anyone know why
[12:11] <skilz> zfe, sudo apt-get remove unity
[12:11] <scotty^> madoo:  Take note of what theadmin just said abut Unity - you will probably be better off with Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[12:12] <scotty^> madoo:  Or you could upgrade your system to 1GB of RAM (if it is possible).
[12:12] <kilopopo> i get bios post fails when i run ubuntu 11.10
[12:12] <kilopopo> does anyone know why
[12:12] <madoo> thankiss but i liked 10.10
[12:12] <madoo> its better
[12:12] <kilopopo> so it resets my bios settings
[12:12] <Beefcakes> theadmin: oh crap, then updating to lucid was bad :|
[12:12] <theadmin> kilopopo: BIOS POST has *nothing* to do with an operating system. It's got nothing to do with Ubuntu, therefore.
[12:13] <theadmin> Beefcakes: Probably you should find another PPA, this one seems to be rather old
[12:13] <kilopopo> theadmin when i shutdown ubuntu 11.10 then turn it on in bios post the system reboots again
[12:14] <madoo> but swap
[12:14] <madoo> did i can uose like ram
[12:14] <kilopopo> what it does is it makes the system fail boot
[12:14] <theadmin> madoo: Swap is somewhat different than RAM -- Linux throws away things that you don't currently use from RAM to the swap, when you're short on RAM.
[12:14] <kilopopo> i need to save the bios again and again to make it working
[12:14] <scotty^> kilopopo:  Most likely it's due to poorly seated or damaged RAM modules.  Reseat them in their sockets and if the problem still occurs run Memtest86+ from the GRUB menu.
[12:15] <Beefcakes> theadmin: would you happen to know a workaround for me to at least get to that r5u870-dkms folder? I saw a few commands that might work
[12:15] <kydu_ct19> hy
[12:15] <theadmin> Beefcakes: Sorry, I'm not going to help you break your system by installing a package from another Ubuntu version.
[12:15] <kilopopo> scotty^, im in 10.04
[12:15] <ztane> any ideas on how to make ubuntu 11.10 grub working on EFI laptop, or... can I use windows 7 boot loader to chainload grub somehow?
[12:15] <kydu_ct19> y`m new
[12:15] <kilopopo> i shutdown and boot and no problem
[12:16] <theadmin> ztane: sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[12:18] <scotty^> madoo:  Swap is virtual memory and acts similar to RAM, but it is not quite as good.  Also, by default your swap partition is created with the same size as your RAM.  So you get a bit less than double, depending on the tasks.  You can get some info about your swap by opening a terminal and typing swapon -s
[12:18] <madoo> aha
[12:19] <mmv> swap + RAM is virtual memory
[12:20] <scotty^> mmv:  The whole memory pool is virtual now?  I didn't know that.
[12:20] <mmv> sec, will open wikipedia
[12:21] <mmv> ' This technique virtualizes a computer architecture's various forms of computer data storage (such as random-access memory and disk storage), allowing a program to be designed as though there is only one kind of memory, "virtual" memory, which behaves like directly addressable read/write memory (RAM).'
[12:22] <scotty^> mmv:  Thanks.  That's pretty cool.
[12:23] <MK`> I just had to login on another terminal to kill something misbehaving. Now that I am done, do I just logout of that terminal or is there something else I should  do to kill it?
[12:23] <scotty^> It makes sense that the operating system worries about those things and not the programs.
[12:24] <mmv> scotty^: so even if you have no swap at all, you still have virtual memory, its just that the VM address space would have to equal the available RAM,
[12:26] <airtonix> why is gedit hiding .ini files from the directory view panel ?
[12:27] <scotty^> I remember the DOS/Win 3.1 days when every printer-application combination you could think of needed a separate driver.  eg.  A driver for printer A with application A, another driver for printer B with application A, another driver for printer A with application B and another driver for printer B with application B.  I was terrible!
[12:28] <scotty^> I meant "It was terrible".
[12:29] <ztane> theadmin: running apt-get upgrade now, maybe that's what's at fault here
[12:30] <mudu_> hi all. How to share my wired conection via wifi to my tablet pc?
[12:31] <scotty^> !adhoc
[12:31] <theadmin> !ics | mudu_
[12:32] <theadmin> ....for me, "ics" is "Ice Cream Sandwich", not "Internet Connection Sharing" xD
[12:32] <scotty^> LOL
[12:33] <scotty^> How is Android 4?
[12:33] <theadmin> scotty^: No idea, I'm on 2.3.4 with an ICS golauncher theme xD
[12:33] <scotty^> (yes I know that's offtopic, but surely a brief casual chat is OK)
[12:33] <scotty^> OK
[12:34] <scotty^> mudu_ Or buy a hub.
[12:34] <scotty^> oops, NO!
[12:34] <scotty^> HUBS ARE BAD!
[12:35] <scotty^> Buy a *Switch* instead
[12:35] <theadmin> ...get a router :D
[12:36] <scotty^> theadmin:  :)  Presumably they already have a router.  A lot of the routers supplied by ISPs are still single port though.
[12:37] <theadmin> scotty^: My ISP supplies no router though, but whatever -- mind going to a query (pm session) with me about android? xD
[12:40] <jiltdil> I have 3.2Mp web cam but when i take any snapshot from it on resolution 1280*720 it shows that 1.4Mp cam pic??
[12:41] <szal> jiltdil: do the math, 1280x720 is about that
[12:41] <jiltdil> szal: How to take a pic about 3.2mp
[12:42] <bastidrazor> jiltdil: read the owner's manual
[12:42] <jiltdil> bastidrazor, ok
[12:43] <jiltdil> szal,bastidrazor  thanks
[12:44] <s3r3n1t7> why does my empathy no longer log me in on msn? It just seems to be stuck on connecting
[12:45] <RedAshes> what is the diff between linux mint & ubuntu?
[12:45] <mmv> sometimes msn makes backwards incompatible updates to their protocol
[12:46] <s3r3n1t7> mmv, this has been going on for a few weeks now and i have updated to the latest updates  ... i would have guessed they updated it by now
[12:46] <theadmin> RedAshes: Mint is based on Ubuntu. It uses another desktop environment (Gnome3 + MGSE) and has a different set of apps.
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> RedAshes  basically, Mint looks different
[12:50] <patjr> hi people!
[12:50] <mmv> hi
[12:51] <RedAshes> i ran a windows program in wine in KDE, GNOME and xfce, and it worked in both kde and gnome but crashes in xfce
[12:51] <patjr> i have a problem with my ubuntu 11.04
[12:51] <hoarycripple> When I log out of a session (either classic or unity) I don't immediately go back to the lightdm login screen.  Rather, I see a screen with multiple text messages, then the screen flickers, and then I get to the lightdm login screen.  Is there a way to make this transition more smooth?  I've read that a full reinstall + update fixes the transition issue, but I would rather not do this if at all possible.
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:55] <RedAshes> KDE is nice
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' Blueskaj!
[12:56] <BluesKaj> hiya Sidewinder1
[12:58] <baffle> What is the proper way do define the default login session of [a user|everyone] in Oneiric? I'm trying "/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s xfce" but Unity starts at boot. User is logged in automatically.
[12:58] <ztane> theadmin: the problem is, no matter where i install grub (grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sda, or /dev/sda1 or what not, it never ever tries to load grub
[12:59] <ztane> always boots to windows without any menu
[12:59] <theadmin> ztane: Again, you have to use the GRUB from the grub-efi package, not the normal one
[12:59] <ztane> i am
[12:59] <ztane> up to date, all packages updated
[13:01] <ztane> i just wonder, whether or not this is a true EFI at all :S
[13:02] <starn> hello, i know amarok is kubuntu application but i am in xubuntu... is there away to reduce how much memory it uses it's using 259,316k.. thats like as much as the entire OS by it self with Teampspeak 3 running...
[13:06] <KittyBunny> I need a Windows Movie Maker alternative pls. :)
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> pitivi
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, If you have lotsa $, Nero is good.
[13:08] <KittyBunny> Sidewinder1: Huh?
[13:08] <ztane> theadmin: the solution: install grub-pc instead of the autodetected grub-efi !!
[13:08] <jutnux> CDBurner XP is just as good, if we are talking about burning CDs and things.
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, And, there's a "Nero for Linux."
[13:09] <theadmin> ztane: but... grub-pc is for BIOS...
[13:09] <ztane> yes!
[13:09] <KittyBunny> Sidewinder1: Nah
[13:09] <jutnux> Otherwise Brasero works KittyBunny
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, It ain't FOSS.
[13:09] <the-erm> Has anyone here had issues with 11.10 and screen resolution on a 2nd monitor?
[13:09] <ztane> 11.10 installer recognized this as efi system, and
[13:09] <ztane> on boot it says "EFI" this and that :D
[13:09] <KittyBunny> I said a Windows Movie Maker alternative.
[13:09] <jutnux> the-erm, what Graphics card do you have?
[13:09] <the-erm> I don't know it's built in. It worked fine in 10.04 LTS.
[13:10] <nathansuchy> I am useing the webchat so this time my connection wont get killed by hackers
[13:10] <jutnux> KittyBunny: http://alternativeto.net/software/windows-movie-maker/
[13:10] <Beefcakes> hello, can someone help me get my microphone working on skype?
[13:11] <nathansuchy> yes
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, Is this what you're lookin' for? http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/making-dvds-with-devede-in-linux/
[13:11] <nathansuchy> talk to me in private chat
[13:11] <the-erm> jutnux: I'm not even sure what to run to find out what card I have.
[13:11] <jutnux> Okay
[13:11] <veram> hola!
[13:11] <jutnux> the-erm: Is it nVidia or ATI?
[13:12] <KittyBunny> Sidewinder1: I want one that can create menus pls.
[13:12] <the-erm> Most likely ATI.
[13:12] <nathansuchy> when i have problems i go to askubuntu.com you will have to wait a hour or 2 though
[13:12] <ztane> theadmin: it seems to me that not all "EFI" systems are booting with EFI
[13:12] <theadmin> ztane: True enough, I have a computer with something called "Insyde EFI H20" on it, that is, infact, a BIOS.
[13:12] <the-erm> lsmod doesn't show ati or nvidia.
[13:13] <KittyBunny> When i said Windows Movie Maker I meant Windows DVD Maker.
[13:13] <jutnux> Are you running X the-erm?
[13:13] <the-erm> Yes I'm running X.
[13:13] <jutnux> KittyBunny, CDBurnerXP, Brasero etc
[13:13] <jutnux> Have you tried editing your xorg.conf file?
[13:13] <ztane> theadmin: but what is even more confusing is that many ppl on the net have used grub-efi specifically to make oneiric work on this very model
[13:13] <nathansuchy> I do you make ubuntu more secure?
[13:13] <soreau> the-erm: lspci|grep VGA
[13:13] <the-erm> xorg.conf doesn't exist.
[13:14] <the-erm> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 03)
[13:14] <theadmin> the-erm: How about "sudo X -configure"?
[13:14] <theadmin> the-erm: That will autogenerate a proper xorg.conf
[13:14] <KittyBunny> jutnux: It's not a burner
[13:14] <KittyBunny> it's a DVD maker
[13:14] <KittyBunny> Big difference
[13:14] <nathansuchy> how do i make ubuntu more secure
[13:14] <soreau> the-erm: You mean screen as in, the terminal session program?
[13:14] <jutnux> What's the difference? ....
[13:14] <KittyBunny> Brasero burns discs.
[13:15] <KittyBunny> Windows DVD Maker doesn't
[13:15] <soreau> theadmin: He does not need an xorg.conf
[13:15] <KittyBunny> well it does
[13:15] <KittyBunny> but it's like Windows Movie Maker
[13:15] <jutnux> http://alternativeto.net/software/windows-dvd-maker/ KittyBunny
[13:15] <nathansuchy> i love to use terminal
[13:15] <Beefcakes> the default Sound Recorder with Ubuntu works well with my laptop's microphones, how come it doesnt work with Skype?
[13:15] <KittyBunny> jutnux: I've just looked at that.
[13:15] <nathansuchy> do you know any cool tricks
[13:15] <jutnux> This is a different one.
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, Then perhaps have a look at FFmpeg and it's GUI front end, winff; Not sure it's what you're lookin' for as I have used neither.
[13:15] <jutnux> Beefcakes: Have you changed your settings in Skype?
[13:15] <soreau> theadmin: X is smart enough to guess what driver to load. In his case, it will always be intel. xorg.conf is only necessary for proprietary drivers
[13:16] <soreau> theadmin: The command you gave is only for nvidia setups
[13:16] <theadmin> soreau: I see, sorry about that.
[13:16] <the-erm> I mean I have 2 monitors, and one has the right resolution, and the 2nd won't go past 1024x768  It used to go to 1366x I can't remember.
[13:17] <jutnux> the-erm, type xrandr.
[13:17] <jiltdil> nathansuchy, close   unwanted ports..set some rules..while browsing avoid to use javascript contents ..use encrypted connection..Knowledge makes you safe  :P
[13:17] <soreau> the-erm: Please show the output of glxinfo|grep renderer
[13:17] <the-erm> let me pastebin that.
[13:17] <soreau> its only  single line
[13:17] <soreau> you need to install mesa-utils first though
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, This should help you decide if it's what you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffmpeg
[13:18] <the-erm> http://pastie.org/2888160
[13:18] <soreau> ! who | the-erm
[13:19] <soreau> the-erm: Please show the output of glxinfo|grep renderer
[13:19] <nathansuchy> what does a firewall do
[13:19] <KittyBunny> Sidewinder1: I'm installing DVDStyler
[13:19] <the-erm> glxinfo|grep renderer
[13:19] <the-erm> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[13:19] <soreau> ! firewall | nathansuchy
[13:19] <the-erm> ok ubottu.
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, K.
[13:19] <scotty^> nathansuchy:  It stops things from getting burnt :)
[13:19] <scotty^> !firewall
[13:20] <jutnux> ! ati | jutnux
[13:20] <soreau> the-erm: You may need to try adding the mode you want as outlined here http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce
[13:20] <nathansuchy> why do people try to flood the chat rooms anyway
[13:20] <soreau> jutnux: He is on Radeon,
[13:20] <the-erm> thanks.
[13:21] <soreau> jutnux: grrr.. he is *not* using radeon, he is using intel
[13:21] <nathansuchy> it is pointless and the flooder has nothing to gain
[13:21] <the-erm> I am sorry I wasn't sure what driver I was using until just now.
[13:21] <soreau> you guys mislead so many people and never listen to what the user is saying or make assumptions
[13:21] <the-erm> Sorry about that.
[13:21] <soreau> the-erm: There is only one, the intel driver
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> KittyBunny, And, good luck! :-)
[13:22] <KittyBunny> WTF?
[13:22] <KittyBunny> Grrrrrrrr!
[13:22] <ikonia> KittyBunny: you will get no more warnings about your language
[13:22] <ikonia> KittyBunny: or any other deviation from the rules and guidelines of the channels
[13:23] <nathansuchy> should i block udp ports i block tcp
[13:23] <KittyBunny> ikonia: Why am I not allowed to swear?
[13:23] <soreau> ikonia: What the failsauce, man? ;)
[13:25] <jutnux> Oh right soreau.
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, And I was trying to help him/her.. My bad?
[13:26] <soreau> What the flap, jack? What the french, toast?
[13:26] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: not at all, it's good to hepl
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, In other words, did I just "step in it, again?"
[13:26] <ikonia> soreau: please
[13:26] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: not at all
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:27] <soreau> ikonia: Sorry, couldnt help those were pretty good ;)
[13:27] <ikonia> thank you
[13:28] <sasori> hi, how to update php in the current stable version ?
[13:28] <soreau> Sidewinder1: As long as you are helping, you dont need to worry yourself with the responsibility of an op (unless of course there is an obvious problem in which case !ops is in order)
[13:28] <ikonia> sasori: the package manager will offer updates if they are available
[13:29] <lolol> Hey guys!
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> soreau, Np..
[13:29] <b1g1r0n> lolol: yo!
[13:30] <lolol> I have problems with the fan speed of my gfx nvidia 460... It seems that it never slows down... Temp is at 35°C, so fan speed could be lowered
[13:30] <lolol> It's driving me crazy...
[13:31] <soreau> lolol: Checked nvidia-settings for related options? or possibly a different version of their driver
[13:31] <BluesKaj> lolol, nvidia-current?
[13:32] <lolol> I had installed the nvidia-current from x-swat-updates ppa
[13:32] <abhijit> hi.i tried reinstalling synapse but i still needs to press super + space twice to bring synapse. help
[13:32] <abhijit> whats the omgubu channel name?
[13:32] <lolol> Yesterday I downloaded and installed the current version from nvidia.com
[13:32] <lolol> Version is 285.05.09 now
[13:33] <soreau> lolol: Is that when the problem started?
[13:33] <lolol> The Problem started after upgrading to 11.10
[13:33] <BluesKaj> lolol, which version. there are at least 2, the 280 and the 285
[13:33] <lolol> I am also using gnome
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:34] <BluesKaj> didn't see above
[13:34] <soreau> lolol: Maybe unity is hogging too many resources? Is ubuntu2D session any better?
[13:35] <ASKidwai> My desktop got wiped
[13:35] <lolol> BluesKaj, nvidia-settings says driver version: 285.05.09
[13:35] <lolol> soreau, I am using gnome 3
[13:35] <abhijit> ASKidwai: explain
[13:36] <lolol> How to run that without 3d acceleration ?
[13:36] <soreau> lolol: Does it make a difference if you start a failsafe fallback session and only use metacity?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> lolol, yeah, I saw that
[13:36] <lolol> How to do that?
[13:37] <soreau> should be some option in gnome3 or when you login
[13:37] <lolol> You mean where I switch also to Unity?
[13:37] <soreau> no
[13:37] <soreau> ubuntu2D
[13:37] <lolol> And what is metacity?
[13:37] <soreau> the default classic gnome window manager
[13:38] <soreau> gnome3 using mutter by default I believe
[13:38] <lolol> Ok brb
[13:39] <abhijit> hi.i tried reinstalling synapse but i still needs to press super + space twice to bring synapse. help
[13:40] <soreau> !info synapse
[13:42] <trihedron>   /join #testchannel
[13:42] <trihedron> hmm
[13:42] <trihedron>  /join #testchannel
[13:42] <trihedron> wtf
[13:42] <FloodBot1> trihedron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <soreau> trihedron: one less space
[13:43] <trihedron> thx
[13:43] <heoa> my USB printer is not noticed, what may cause this?
[13:43] <heoa> It has ealier automatically noticed but not with the newest ubuntu
[13:43] <soreau> trihedron: / needs to be the first character for it to be recognized as a command
[13:44] <trihedron> yes i know that
[13:44] <trihedron> i just don't kniow where the spaces came from
[13:44] <soreau> heoa: Try lsusb to see if it is recognized there first
[13:45] <Annelie> can someone help me with my ubuntu problem here?
[13:45] <trihedron> no we only do suse
[13:45] <soreau> Annelie: Not unless you ask
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> !ask | Annelie
[13:46] <heoa> soreau: no, it is not noticed there
[13:46] <soreau> heoa: Try plugging it into the electrical outlet?
[13:46] <heoa> soreau: ? it is plugged in
[13:46] <trihedron> turn it on then
[13:47] <soreau> heoa: Usually there is a usb and a power cable. Ensure both are securely plugged in and the unit is turned on (receiving power)
[13:47] <Annelie> my problem is that i since i have upgraded to 11.10 have no sound any more. I have to go to alsamixer to get the speaker sound up. I have a samsung nc10 netbook. I also have to put the headphones in and out and then it works again. This is annoying. I did not have the problem in windows or ubuntu 11.04. Thanks!
[13:48] <soreau> ! sound | Annelie
[13:48] <trihedron> !shutter
[13:48] <JustMozzy> hey guys. I am having some problems with my USB webcam, can anyone help? it is basically working with most software, however not with Cheese, and testing it in gstreamer-properties fails with an error saying the the camera propertiews could not be retrieved
[13:48] <soreau> Annelie: In alsamixer, use m to (un)mute channels
[13:48] <soreau> ! webcam | JustMozzy
[13:49] <Annelie> yes but they are unmute. They mute all the time again. I will go to the soundtroubleshooting, thanx!
[13:50] <heoa> soreau: I think I know the problem, no usb device is detected. Some cord must be unplugged inside the comp because I opened it a time ago. I think I need to reopen this comp and check every cord that they are firmly connected
[13:50] <ermo> ubottu: !help
[13:50] <heoa> soreau: it is probably not a problem with OS
[13:50] <heoa> soreau: but with the hardware
[13:50] <soreau> heoa: Right, if lsusb cant see it, this is usually the case
[13:50] <heoa> soreau: well the usb devices get the power but they do not transfer no information
[13:51] <heoa> leds blinking...
[13:51] <soreau> heoa: That sucks ;)
[13:51] <heoa> soreau: ok I have to turn off this box now, see you soon
[13:51] <soreau> cya
[13:52] <in> Annelie, in alsamixer use F5 to show all oprions/controls , there's probly an auto-mute setting there use the arrow key to disable
[13:52] <ermo> soreau: do you know if you guys are planning/have planned to make it easier to switch lightdm themes from the admin user's account via the theme?
[13:52] <Annelie> thanks will try that!
[13:52] <ssbpls> hello,i  am using the ubuntu  11.10,but the gnome gets crash for one "user", i am now loginning as root.
[13:52] <ermo> i.e. if I switch from ambiance to radiance and use a different background, have the greeter pick that up?
[13:54] <dabukalam> I'm trying to compile drivers for my intel wireless agn4965, but I'm getting an "invalid argument" error when using modprobe. Any ideas why?
[13:54] <ikonia> dabukalam: shouldn't need to copmile anythig
[13:54] <Flynsarmy> *le sign* this keyboard doesn't have pg up/down, home or end keys on it. as a coder this is disastrous. is there a tool i can configure fn+- and fn++ to be home and end keys?
[13:54] <ikonia> dabukalam: the intel cards are already in the kenrel
[13:54] <ikonia> kernel
[13:55] <dabukalam> ikonia: yeah, we spoke yesterday if you remember, I told you I overwrote those accidentally, now I'm trying to compile new ones
[13:55] <Annelie> when i press f5 i dont see an automute function in alsamixer :(
[13:55] <ikonia> dabukalam: why ???
[13:55] <ikonia> dabukalam: the intel cards are already supported, you don't need to compile anything
[13:56] <bekks> ssbpls: You cannot log in as root.
[13:56] <dabukalam> ikonia: okay, so what can I do now to get my wifi working?
[13:56] <in> Annelie, use the arrow keys <  > to navigate to it ..probly on the far right
[13:56] <Annelie> will try thnx
[13:56] <ssbpls> i can login in as root.
[13:56] <ikonia> dabukalam: I don't know, as I don't know what you've done to mess it up, it should just work out of the box, the intel cards are supported
[13:56] <bekks> ssbpls: You shouldnt do so. Thats a severe security risk, AND root having a password is not the default in Ubuntu.
[13:57] <ssbpls> bekks:yes ,i know ,but i change it.
[13:57] <dabukalam> ikonia: that's great. you keep saying the same thing which is useless to my situation. I'm not looking for someone to tell me what I already know, I'm looking for someone to help me compile new ones. If you know anything about that please advise otherwise stop repeating yourself.
[13:57] <ikonia> dabukalam: you don't need to compile new ones
[13:58] <dabukalam> ikonia: okay, so what do I do?
[13:58] <ikonia> dabukalam: the reason you're probably having the problems is because you keep compiling things and overwriting the current modules
[13:58] <soreau> ermo: What do you mean 'you guys'?
[13:58] <Annelie> i did go through everything but there was no automute. sometimes it goes on mute and then i have to plug and unplug a headphone plug :)
[13:58] <dabukalam> ikonia: how can I fix it?!!!?!
[13:58] <ikonia> dabukalam: I don't know, as I don't know wha tyou've done so far, based on the conversation yesterday you're machine is in a mess
[13:58] <soreau> Annelie: F6 to select the card..
[13:59] <dabukalam> s/you're/your
[13:59] <dabukalam>  /
[13:59] <ssbpls> bekks:do you konw how to fix the gnome crash for the user "xxxx"?
[13:59] <ikonia> dabukalam: if you want to correct gramma, thats great, if you want to resolve your problem you're in a mess
[14:00] <bekks> ssbpls: We dont know anything yet about the crash itself.
[14:00] <bekks> !details | ssbpls
[14:00] <patjr> hi everybody!
[14:00] <Annelie> i did f6 and there was 0) default and 1) intel. i selected intel. I hope this solves something! :)
[14:01] <soreau> Annelie: It only shows you the settings for the other card..
[14:01] <ssbpls> bekks:is there an url for paste the .png?
[14:01] <dabukalam> ikonia: do you know anything that might help me?
[14:01] <ermo> soreau: I was going on the assumption that you were affiliated with canonical/ubuntu and that you perhaps knew if this was a feature that canonical planned to introduce? :)
[14:01] <Annelie> soreau: so what should i do? did i do something wrong?
[14:01] <soreau> ermo: You assumed wrong, sir
[14:02] <ikonia> dabukalam: tons of things, however as I said, your machine sounds like it's in a mess as you keep compiling things and overwriting your default modules
[14:02] <Cyberkilla>  (_8(¦)
[14:02] <ermo> soreau: So it would seem. :) -- you're affiliated with compiz?
[14:02] <soreau> Annelie: No, F6 just allows you to select which card's settings you're adjusting in alsamixer. It does nothing to actually switch cards
[14:02] <dabukalam> ikonia: okay. so what do I do to fix it?
[14:03] <soreau> ermo: Yes but they chose not to hire me so..
[14:03] <ikonia> dabukalam: if it was me, I'd go back to a clean fresh install and working it forward from there
[14:03] <Annelie> oh ok i understand, but then i have already selected the correct card since it works again after putting it up. Im just annoyed of having to do that all the time :)
[14:03] <bekks> ssbpls: You could just tell us...
[14:03] <ikonia> dabukalam: that way it's a known platform to work it through on
[14:03] <dabukalam> ikonia: I would do that do, but in this case I don't have that option. So what can I do to fix it?
[14:04] <ikonia> dabukalam: you've made a mess of your machine then, and you can't explain what's been changed, so it's pretty hard to go through problem resolution
[14:04] <dabukalam> ikonia: a fresh install would solve my problem, if you know you how to fix it without doing that i'd be grateful.
[14:04] <soreau> Annelie: To actually switch cards, you'd want to look in gnome sound preferences (or whatever it's called)
[14:05] <JustMozzy> soreau: unfortunately my webcam is of a no name brand and the usual trouble shoot articles didn't really do it for me :s
[14:05] <ikonia> dabukalam: I don't wish to work thorugh your mess, you don't even known what you've changed so it would be quite long winded to work out what's changed
[14:05] <Germanaz0> hello everybody, I have a problem, in my laptop with ubuntu 11.10, sometimes it log me off, automatically
[14:05] <dabukalam> ikonia: I can start with an lsmod... http://paste.ubuntu.com/743240/
[14:05] <soreau> JustMozzy: Assuming it's on the universal serial bus, what does 'lsusb' say about it?
[14:05] <ikonia> dabukalam: lsmod doesn't start anything
[14:05] <patjr> is it possible to install windows inside ubuntu? im having problem installing windows since all my hard drive memory was being used by ubuntu and it turned out to be ext4. i have tried vm but its laggy. i just want to run visual basic and my project that is why i need windows on my machine. please help! thanks!
[14:05] <Annelie> thanks for the help! I will try on :)
[14:05] <ssbpls> bekks:here is the log from the /var/log/messages http://paste.ubuntu.com/743241/
[14:06] <soreau> dabukalam: lsmod means 'list modules' and list all currently loaded kernel modules
[14:06] <dabukalam> I know what it means.
[14:06] <ikonia> dabukalam: then why did you say it does something else ?
[14:06] <soreau> ikonia: Oh he didn't
[14:07] <dabukalam> I meant we can "start the diagnosis process with an lsmod"
[14:07] <ikonia> ahhh
[14:07] <JustMozzy> soreau: soreau it sees it properly. also dmesg tells me that it is mounted using uvc. all internals see it properly, except for Cheese, gstreamer and OpenCV
[14:07] <abhijit> hi.i tried reinstalling synapse but i still needs to press super + space twice to bring synapse. help
[14:07] <ikonia> dabukalam: we can't you don't know what you've changed, you don't know what's been put where and how it's changed your system - I don't want to try to undo that
[14:07] <ikonia> dabukalam: the logical approach would be to backup your data, and do a clean install
[14:07] <soreau> JustMozzy: Tried re-plugging it? Or reloading the module for it if it's built-in?
[14:08] <Germanaz0> abhijit: whats your problem ?
[14:08] <ermo> patjr: if I were in your position, I'd look into backing up my user data from ubuntu and then booting from e.g. a system rescue cd from http://sysresccd.org and use the GParted tool to make room for a windows install?
[14:08] <Germanaz0> it log you out ?
[14:08] <ermo> ermo: and by making room, I mean 'resize the ubuntu partition' :)
[14:08]  * ermo realizes he's talking to himself
[14:08] <juhsis> hey guys i cant join gcc channel so i try to ask here, how can i manually link shared libraries in gcc command?
[14:08] <abhijit> Germanaz0: => hi.i tried reinstalling synapse but i still needs to press super + space twice to bring synapse. help
[14:08] <ermo> patjr: and by making room, I mean 'resize the ubuntu partition' :)
[14:08] <ikonia> !register | juhsis
[14:08] <ermo> patjr: and no, I can't talk you through it.
[14:09] <bekks> juhsis: Why cant you join that channel?
[14:09] <ikonia> juhsis: if you register you can join the #gcc channel
[14:09] <soreau> juhsis: -lLib
[14:09] <juhsis> i dont want to do it with -llib
[14:09] <soreau> juhsis: Then join #gcc
[14:09] <JustMozzy> soreau: tried pretty much everything. am working on this problem for over a week now :s I thought maybe the gstreamer error could be helpful?
[14:09] <JustMozzy> funny thouh that lsusb sees my webcam as an integrated webcam although it is a USB external one
[14:10] <patjr> ermo: ok ill try it ill be back if it didnt work. thanks!
[14:10] <JustMozzy> problem only that I of course forgot my cam at home ... ugh
[14:10] <soreau> JustMozzy: The most helpful thing you can do is google the vendor:product id of the device (from lsusb in the form of xxxx:xxxx) with keyword ubuntu or your version of ubuntu
[14:10] <ermo> patjr: Do take some time to read a little about what you're about to do!
[14:11] <ermo> patjr: something like http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[14:11] <patjr> ermo: ok kind sir!
[14:12] <soreau> JustMozzy: If no one else is having similar issues with this same model cam, try a live session to see if it's not a local problem
[14:12] <ermo> patjr: and one other thing: When you install windows, it will _overwrite_ your current master boot record (if you're on a non-mac/non-uefi machine)
[14:12] <JustMozzy> soreau: good idea, I'll try that one out once I am home. I could then also compare dmesg, lsusb and other outputs. thanks
[14:13] <ermo> patjr: so you'll need your ubuntu cd/usb key to be able to boot ubuntu
[14:13] <JustMozzy> soreau: do you think it could be also a problem of packages that I could install?
[14:13] <ermo> patjr: I run a laptop with the same config -- the trick is to install the grub2 bootloader in the same partition as the ubuntu install.
[14:13] <patjr> ermo: so i will back up everything then just to make sure
[14:14] <ermo> patjr: that a boy :)
[14:14] <ermo> patjr: it's not impossible to do -- it's just tricky and you need to be prepared to learn a few tricks
[14:14] <patjr> ermo: but was it possible to just install windows inside lets say a usb drive?
[14:15] <soreau> JustMozzy: Instead of speculating, I'd prefer people that I assist have the problem machine physically at their full disposal
[14:15] <ermo> patjr: I'm sure it's possible. I don't know how and I'm not sure why you'd want to do it?
[14:15] <ermo> patjr: is it your laptop?
[14:15] <JustMozzy> soreau: fully understandable
[14:15] <patjr> ermo: how i wanna try it :)
[14:16] <soreau> JustMozzy: ie. sitting in front of the machine and not remote logged or daydreaming at work
[14:16] <patjr> ermo:yup its mine
[14:16] <ermo> patjr: you may be able to use an external harddrive and install windows on that ..
[14:16] <Narc> Hello everyone. MSN protocol is still unusable for me with empathy on Oneiric, even after the python-papyon update and trying the patched version in Bug #887349. Anyone got a fix ? Is it working for you ? Thanks.
[14:16] <JustMozzy> soreau: hehe, yeah. I usually have everything handy, just forgot to pack my cam today. still didn't get used to having an external one
[14:16] <soreau> Narc: Try pidgin?
[14:16] <ermo> a flash drive would need to be at least 32gb before I'd be comfortable recommending it, and on top of that you have a host of wear-issues to contend with.
[14:16] <patjr> ermo: really?
[14:17] <ermo> reall.
[14:17] <ikonia> Narc: looks like that bug is still active
[14:17] <ermo> +y
[14:17] <patjr> ermo: how i love to try it
[14:17] <ermo> patjr: what's the capacity of your current hard drive?
[14:17] <Noob12> hi
[14:18] <patjr> ermo: my laptops hard drive is only 160gb and i have 320gb external hard drive
[14:18] <Noob12> I am new, want to learn linux from scratch, is ubuntu the best to start with? Confused between ubuntu, openSUSE and Fedora, please let me decide
[14:18] <abhijit> Noob12: depends on what aspect you want to learn
[14:18] <ikonia> Noob12: the hosts are listed in the book and their issues, eg: fedoras gcc is a problem
[14:19] <Noob12> abhijit: linux in general, from the zero level
[14:19] <bekks> Noob12: First, start with a Linux distro like Ubuntu.
[14:19] <ikonia> Noob12: just follow and READ the book and you'll be fine
[14:19] <Narc> soreau: Pidgin seems to work, I wanted to know about empathy though because that's what I normally use.
[14:19] <Noob12> ikonia: fedora is thus not good?
[14:19] <soreau> Narc: right
[14:19] <Noob12> bekks: okay
[14:19] <ikonia> Noob12: the book details the usable hosts and their problems
[14:19] <Noob12> which book?
[14:19] <abhijit> Noob12: if you just want to learn linux to be able use it fluently for all the day to day work - professional or home then go for ubuntu. if you want to see the things behind the curtains - how actually each thing happend then you may want to try slackware or arch
[14:19] <ermo> Noob12: Ubuntu will be a comfortable starting point, I'm sure. IMHO, you'll need a fairly thick skin if you decide to start out with fedora :)
[14:20] <ikonia> Noob12: the Linux From Sratch book
[14:20] <abhijit> he was not talking about that book. he even dont know about that book.
[14:20] <Noob12> thanks fedora is such a tough it mean, but where it is?
[14:20] <Noob12> the book?
[14:20] <ikonia> Noob12: where you not talking about the the Linux From Scratch distro/project ?
[14:20] <ermo> patjr: how much space are you using for data (i.e. not OS) in your ubuntu install?
[14:20] <ermo> ikonia: I don't think so ;)
[14:21] <ikonia> it would appear not
[14:21] <Noob12> i don't know anything in linux, you told abt book?
[14:21] <ikonia> Noob12: ignore me, I miss-understood what you where asking
[14:21] <Noob12> ok
[14:21] <ermo> Noob12: Linux from scratch is a book/guide that takes you through how to build your own linux distrubtion.
[14:21] <Noob12> my own?
[14:21] <Noob12> like ubuntu?
[14:21] <bekks> No.
[14:21] <patjr> ermo: i dont have a partition, i mistakenly install ubuntu using all my hard drive
[14:21] <abhijit> Noob12: yes
[14:21] <bekks> Ubuntu is a pre-compiled distro. Just use it to get familiar with Linux at all.
[14:22] <Noob12> okk, if i go for ubuntu (100%) ,  can i learn the linux from zero level?
[14:22] <abhijit> Noob12: start with step 1. get hold of linux by using ubuntu for some days.
[14:22] <Noob12> some days,...and then?
[14:22] <e20100633> s/days/weeks/
[14:22] <bekks> Noob12: You have no knowledge about Linux - that is zero level. And take about some months, not days.
[14:22] <Noob12> okk
[14:22] <patjr> ermo: and the worst is it was being formatted into ext4
[14:23] <ermo> Noob12: You can learn linux from the zero level, yes. It depends on what 'zero level' means to you. :)
[14:23] <bekks> Months or years.
[14:23] <Noob12> it would give me the basic learning tutorials?
[14:23] <Noob12> zero level mean i even dont know how to install
[14:23] <bekks> Noob12: No. You have to search them on your own, depending on what you want to learn.
[14:23] <ermo> patjr: being formatted into ext4 is actually a good thing -- for a linux installation '^^
[14:23] <xangua> Noob12: ubuntu.com tells you how
[14:23] <ikonia> Noob12: https://help.ubunu.com - se ubuntu and use that link to do what you want
[14:23] <ikonia> Noob12: that URL will guide you how to use it at a basic level
[14:24] <theadmin> ikonia: You missed a "t"
[14:24] <Noob12> ikonia, ermo, bekks: ty
[14:24] <e20100633> Noob12: yeah, look, start using ubuntu, and learn how to use it graphically ; after some weeks, you will want to learn the command line interface, which is a good step 2
[14:24] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:24] <Noob12> ah well
[14:24] <Noob12> okk
[14:24] <patjr> ermo: yeah that is why i cant boot my windows now and run my favorite visual studio.. lol!
[14:25] <Noob12> can you link me directly how to install ubuntu on 250 gb hard disk, i am much confused in partitioning.....
[14:25] <bekks> Noob12: Read the link...
[14:25] <Noob12> ok
[14:25] <Noob12> help.ubuntu.com ???
[14:25] <ikonia> Noob12: https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:25] <Noob12> ok
[14:25] <Noob12> search here "how to install"?
[14:25] <e20100633> Noob12: plus the most important think is: read documtation, when you had done that, you have to read more documentation, and read more even
[14:26] <e20100633> s/think/thing/
[14:26] <Noob12> e20100633, bekks, ikonia: ty
[14:26] <bekks> Noob12: No. Open the link. Start reading.
[14:26] <patjr> i just wish they could develop vb4linux soon cant wait to see it running
[14:26] <Noob12> i search there , how to install
[14:26] <bekks> Noob12: No. Open the link. Start reading first...
[14:26] <e20100633> Noob12: get in mind that 99% of questions you can have for now have an answer in the wiki or even in the forum
[14:26] <steelrat> hello, guys! i have a problem with detecting my 4gb of memory on 64-bit ubuntu 11.10. can someone help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/80721/only-3-2-gb-of-memory-on-64-bit-ubuntu
[14:26] <Noob12> okk
[14:27] <ikonia> steelrat: explain having problems
[14:27] <steelrat> system can see only 3.2 Gb!
[14:27] <Karan1337> steelrat: try lsusb
[14:27] <Noob12> ok, bye guys, seems ubuntu is a great place., :):) anm dread and then install
[14:27] <ermo> patjr: how much space do you realistically need for your windows partition?
[14:27] <ikonia> steelrat: open a terminal and type "uname -a" please pastebin the output in this channel
[14:27] <steelrat> Linux monster 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:27] <steelrat> it's 64 bit
[14:28] <ikonia> steelrat: please pastebin the output of "free -m"
[14:28] <patjr> ermo only 20gb just for my visual studio projects
[14:28] <ermo> patjr: as ubuntu can read NTFS just fine (even if it isn't super fast), you might want to have a large windows partition and a smaller ubuntu partition
[14:28] <steelrat> well, it's on my link above
[14:28] <DIL> .8 is being used/dedicated to some resources
[14:28] <abhijit> Noob12: first install ubuntu and try to do the office work things and entertainment things in it. there is probably local ubuntu team or linux user grouop in your city/country. contact them. you can search them on google. keep in touch with techblogs/sites e.g. omgubuntu.co.uk , linux.com , tldp.org then there are mailist lists to subscribe lots of things man. ITS LINUX!!! :-D
[14:29] <abhijit> i was disconnected
[14:29] <steelrat> http://pastebin.com/QL9a4cEn
[14:29] <abhijit> he gone?
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> Gone
[14:29] <ermo> abhijit: yup, gone
[14:29] <ikonia> steelrat: is this a laptop ?
[14:29] <steelrat> nope, it's pc
[14:29] <sskniranjan> identify 80811946
[14:29] <abhijit> ok
[14:30] <ssbpls> LEAVE
[14:30] <ikonia> steelrat: cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[14:30] <abhijit> sskniranjan: change ur pass immidiatly
[14:30] <Flynsarmy> My dell xps 15z has pretty low audio even when it's on 100%. any ideas on how to fix this? windows was fine
[14:30] <steelrat> MemTotal:        3347240 kB
[14:31] <abhijit> sskniranjan: next time onwards do the identifying thingy in server tab not in any channel tab
[14:31] <patjr> ermo: i only need small space to run my visual studio. is it possible to install this application on ubuntu?
[14:31] <bekks> patjr: No.
[14:31] <ikonia> steelrat: looks like a hardware error then on one of the sims, can you run memtest and see what that reports
[14:31] <sskniranjan> abhijit : how to change my password
[14:32] <steelrat> how to run it?
[14:32] <ermo> patjr: Then it'd have to be through the wine emulator and I'm not sure how well that'd work as it's probably not at the top of the list of what people want to do with their linux installs (games are more popular)
[14:32] <patjr> bekks: that was bad for me
[14:32] <ikonia> steelrat: when you boot ubuntu the grub menu shows a test called memtest
[14:32] <rjcks> any zsh users? I've just switched from Debian and a couple of things don't work ... I used to be able to type, say, "cd" and then scroll back through the history seeing only "cd ...
[14:32] <steelrat> oh, ok
[14:32] <bekks> patjr: Dont expect wonders from an emulator like wine :)
[14:32] <steelrat> i'll try it
[14:32] <steelrat> thanks
[14:32] <abhijit> sskniranjan: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[14:32] <ikonia> steelrat: worth checking as it does suggest a hardware error
[14:33] <ermo> patjr: I'd suggest a 40/120 windows/ubuntu split
[14:33] <patjr> bekk: yeah ive already tried it on wine and it didnt work
[14:34] <patjr> ermo: but i cant install my windows it always say cant find ntfs thing
[14:38] <MustardCU> What would I have to do to restart whatever controls my touchpad?
[14:38] <sskniranjan> abhijit: done and thanx
[14:38] <abhijit> sskniranjan: welcome
[14:43] <antoine_roquenti> Hello all, I am having some issues with my wireless card and I was wondering if anyone had some advice to help me fix it?
[14:43] <salvatore> Someone can say me how to install multiple version of firefox on my ubuntu machine?
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> salvatore, Why would you want multiple versions?
[14:44] <xangua> salvatore: google firefox old releases, be happy ;)
[14:44] <bullgard4> When will a change in the contents of a .deskop file in /etc/xdg/autostart/ become effective?
[14:44] <salvatore> i am a web developer and need them for testing
[14:44] <antoine_roquenti> I am trying to install drivers for a Broadcom 4318 wireless card and cannot see the driver under system > administration > additional drivers
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> OIC.
[14:45] <kemalgencay> I installed 11.10  on my Lenovo 3000 v200 laptop, but sound does not work, it worked on Mint ! any help please?? TIA
[14:45] <DIL> use virtual worlds-vbox
[14:45] <salvatore> xangua could you explain better please?
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> !sound | kemalgencay
[14:45] <xangua> salvatore: go to google and type firefox old releases
[14:45] <xangua> download, extract and run
[14:46] <salvatore> ok cool
[14:46] <salvatore> tnx
[14:46] <sskniranjan> what is the alternative to win rar in ubuntu
[14:46] <kemalgencay> ubottu thanks I'll try
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:47] <DIL> rar
[14:47] <xangua> sskniranjan: sudo apt-get install rar unrar , to manage rar files on file roller
[14:47] <steelrat> can someone, please, help me! my ubuntu 11.10 64-bit can't recognize my 4Gb of memory. It can see only 3.2 Gb!
[14:47] <steelrat> ?
[14:47] <bekks> steelrat: You already asked that.
[14:47] <ermo> sskniranjan: as ^^ said -- if you install rar and unrar, the graphical pack/unpack tool fileroller will be able to understand rar :)
[14:48] <steelrat> well, maybe someone new will see that question and will answer me
[14:48] <abhijit> i tried reinstalling synapse but i still needs to press super + space twice to bring synapse.
[14:48] <DIL> could be your mobo or .8 is being used/dedicated to some resources
[14:48] <abhijit> sskniranjan: may be 7zip or ark
[14:48] <ermo> DIL: 3.2 does sound kinda suspicious
[14:48] <sskniranjan> xangua and ermo isn't there any apllication sort of a thing for that. i need graphical interface
[14:48] <Sidewinder1> Have a great day/evening, all!..
[14:49] <rfgpfeiffer> Hi. I already have 4 primary ntfs partitions. Can i make one of them logical without deleting it during installation?
[14:49] <ermo> sskniranjan: re-read: fileroller _is_ a graphical interface that understands many packed formats
[14:49] <sskniranjan> i think abhijit it will work
[14:49] <xangua> sskniranjan: file roller is a graphical interface
[14:49] <sskniranjan> thanx
[14:49] <abhijit> rfgpfeiffer: nope
[14:49] <triferema> hi
[14:49] <Jessie1> hey guys
[14:50] <antoine_roquenti> trying to get firmware for my wirless card installed correctly. it is a bcom 4318, am trying to use app "b43-fwcutter" to grab the software but am having trouble
[14:50] <ermo> DIL: for instance, I have an old-ish motherboard that will only enable exactly 3.2GB RAM (out of 2x2GB). And that's with a modded BIOS.
[14:50] <kemalgencay> :-D This is the first time I use irc and I get a robot answering me??  or is it me :) :)
[14:50] <sancas> any here can run team fortress 2 ??
[14:50] <theadmin> sancas: Check out #winehq and http://winehq.org
[14:52] <triferema> i am having a issue with my ubuntu 10.04. i can reach most all sites but when I ping/wget/curl  http://smsplus1.routesms.com i get [curl: (7) couldn't connect to host]. where could this becoming from
[14:52] <ermo> steelrat: is your PC a desktop with 4x1GB ram and a dedicated gfx card? If you would pastebin the output of 'sudo lspci -v' that'd be helpful :)
[14:52] <bekks> triferema: The site doesnt want to be pinged, or used by wget or curl.
[14:52] <rhin01> could be his firewall
[14:53] <rhin01> or a firewall
[14:54] <ASKidwai> abhijit: well, none of the icons show up
[14:54] <natalia> hey!
[14:54] <triferema> bekks: hut I have a php script that needs to deliver smses to it. on the localmachine where I ma developing the application it works just fine  but when I upload it on the server http://dargw.ihi.or.tz:100/vacsms it does not work
[14:54] <natalia> i need some help with my ubuntu
[14:54] <abhijit> ASKidwai: amm?
[14:54] <abhijit> natalia: ask
[14:54] <natalia> is there anyone who want to help me? :)
[14:54] <bekks> triferema: Well, thats not an ubuntu problem then I guess :)
[14:54] <natalia> i dont know how to instal gnome to my desktop
[14:54] <steelrat> ermo: yes, my PC is a desktop with 4x1GV ram and dedicated video: http://pastebin.com/MHVLkfRr
[14:54] <abhijit> !gnome3 | natalia
[14:55] <xangua> natalia: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <compdoc> natalia, do you need food? clothing?
[14:55] <natalia> i hane a banana :P
[14:55] <natalia> have
[14:55] <compdoc> oh, help with gnome
[14:55] <natalia> ok thx
[14:55] <triferema> rhino1:  how come I can reach other site and just this particular one, what make it specially
[14:55] <ASKidwai> abhijit: wha?
[14:56] <rhin01> maybe as someone just said it's only allowing certain protocols
[14:56] <abhijit> ASKidwai: 20:24:08         ASKidwai | abhijit: well, none of the icons show up
[14:56] <ASKidwai> abhijit: what do you mean?
[14:56] <bekks> triferema: Check firewalls, etc.
[14:56] <rhin01> there are sites on the internet to test download page snapshot of sites -- try one of them triferema
[14:56] <salvatore> ok is not that easy
[14:56] <abhijit> ASKidwai: you said something about icosn to me which i dont know what you are talking about
[14:56] <rhin01> could be the site -- nobody will test it for you - what is it
[14:56] <ermo> steelrat: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/om/html/appendix.htm <- this one?
[14:56] <ASKidwai> abhijit: yes
[14:57] <salvatore> i have installed 3.6 firs
[14:57] <tavish> hello, i installed ati drivers and restarted. my monitor is showing a wrong refresh rate sign, there is no graphical display except ttys
[14:57] <compdoc> ASKidwai, which icons?
[14:57] <steelrat> ermo: yep ,that's him
[14:57] <salvatore> then downloaded  the latest (8)
[14:57] <ASKidwai> abhijit: the icons which lead to other applications and folders
[14:57] <ermo> steelrat: are you french?
[14:57] <steelrat> ermo: but it's just 530
[14:57] <steelrat> ermo: no, why?
[14:57] <compdoc> ASKidwai, so all of your system's icons are missing?
[14:57] <ASKidwai> compdoc: qBittorent, Hearts, Chess, five folders and a picture
[14:58] <abhijit> ASKidwai: i really cant relate what you are trying to ask.
[14:58] <ASKidwai> terminal shows all of them
[14:58] <salvatore> extracted then from terminal i have done /firefox/firefox
[14:58] <triferema> bekks: okay let me look into it
[14:58] <ermo> steelrat: because in english, a computer has no gender (it -- not 'him') and the french tend to use him in a lot of places where you'd use 'it' :)
[14:58] <compdoc> ASKidwai, you using Unity?
[14:58] <salvatore> well firefox-8/firefox
[14:58] <salvatore> but it runs 3.6 instead
[14:58] <ermo> steelrat: ok, your PC has got an integrated graphics card
[14:58] <ermo> as well
[14:58] <ASKidwai> compdoc: Gnome 2 on Lucid
[14:58] <Jessie1> any osx > linux experts on this early?
[14:58] <salvatore> then?
[14:59] <ermo> steelrat: according to that spec sheet (it's the G33 chipset -- 'G' means that it has graphics)
[14:59] <jary> everytime i use"hwclock --hwtosys",reboot, the system time always be the same as before
[14:59] <ASKidwai> compdoc and abhijit not all of them, only on the desktop
[14:59] <xangua> salvatore: you have to close fx3, can't run two firefox versions at same time
[14:59] <jary> means i can't change the sys time :(
[14:59] <ermo> steelrat: I would suggest rebooting your PC and checking if you can find the on board graphic options
[15:00] <steelrat> ermo: ye, i know it, not only french people have this problem, russians too :D should i say 'this is it'?
[15:00] <salvatore> i that is closed...
[15:00] <salvatore> fx8 does not need to be compiled?
[15:00] <antoine_roquenti> anyone help with configuring driver for broadcom 4318 wirless card?
[15:00] <ermo> steelrat: yeah, something like that '^^
[15:00] <steelrat> ermo: yes, i think Intel Corporation 82G33 is integrated video card, but it also has nvidia geforce 8600gt built in
[15:00] <salvatore> anyway this is what happends
[15:01] <ASKidwai> compdoc: not all of them, only on the desktop
[15:01] <ermo> steelrat: 'built in' or as an add-on card? When I say 'built-in' I mean 'not removable'. I'm guessing your NVidia card is a add-in card?
[15:01] <antoine_roquenti> I have run the apps to get the firmware for my wireless card but cannot see the proprietary driver coming up in the list
[15:01] <steelrat> ermo: ye, it's add-in, sry
[15:01] <antoine_roquenti> using 11.04
[15:01] <salvatore> any suggestion?
[15:01] <ermo> steelrat: I think I forgot to mention that you need to enter your bios to check :)
[15:01] <ermo> steelrat: do that and come back? :)
[15:02] <steelrat> ermo: ok, i still don't understand what sould i find? :)
[15:02] <salvatore> i need multiple firefox version to be installe d on my computer
[15:02] <salvatore> 3..6 is already installed
[15:02] <antoine_roquenti> anyone help me with my bcom 4318 wireless card driver issue?
[15:02] <ermo> steelrat: fair question -- have you ever changed a setting in your BIOS?
[15:02] <Jessie1> hey guys what should be the mount point for the ext4 partition? on a mac?
[15:02] <steelrat> ermo: we can cleary see that i have 2 video cards on board: one is integrated and one is add-in
[15:02] <salvatore> if i download and unzip the 8th
[15:02] <steelrat> ermo: nope, i didnt
[15:03] <antoine_roquenti> ugh whatever thanks for the help guys
[15:03] <salvatore> then from terminal run firefox-8/firefox it runs the 3.6 insted of the 8
[15:03] <ermo> steelrat: ah, that explains it. When you re-start your computer, it shows a dell logo and possibly says press <F2> to enter setup
[15:03] <steelrat> ermo: is there a  way in ubuntu to find out what video card is currently in use?
[15:03] <stephanmg> a question concerning a nvidia quadro 140 card: which driver is the appropriate: nvidia-current or version 173. there is also a postrelease version of boths. whic his the right one?
[15:03] <steelrat> ermo: is does, but it's F8 :) but it doesn't matter
[15:03] <ermo> steelrat: pastebin the output of 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[15:04] <ermo> steelrat: you need to press F8 and enter the system setup and look for anything that looks like it's related to integrated graphics
[15:04] <ermo> steelrat: well, you could also check where the monitor cable is attached?
[15:04] <DIL> create virtual worlds with virtualbox insyall the versions you want to test | salvatore
[15:04] <ermo> steelrat: if it's attached to your add-in card, then that's what is being used :)
[15:05] <steelrat> ermo: http://pastebin.com/Ld861nte
[15:05] <salvatore> i don't want virtual wolrd...
[15:05] <salvatore> it charge performance
[15:05] <steelrat> ermo: it's attached to my add-in card.. so it's not my extra video card a problem ?
[15:06] <DIL> !RESOURCES
[15:06] <ermo> steelrat: I think the 'problem' is that your integrated graphics card is not disabled, and hence reserves some of your system ram to use as texture memory :)
[15:07] <ermo> steelrat: your add-in card is much more powerful than the integrated gfx
[15:07] <steelrat> ermo: ok, i will check it in bios, will you be here in a couple of minutes?
[15:07] <ermo> steelrat: sure thing -- best of luck :)
[15:07] <steelrat> ermo: ok ,thanks)
[15:08] <ermo> DIL: sounds like you were spot on w/steelrat's issue!
[15:08] <DIL> :-)
[15:08] <steelrat> ermo: i don't get it
[15:09] <ermo> steelrat: I thought you were rebooting to disabled your integrated graphics? ;)
[15:09] <ermo> *disable
[15:09] <steelrat> ermo: i am ))
[15:09] <sskniranjan_> how to auto identify in the  x chat
[15:09] <steelrat> i mean i do
[15:09] <steelrat> right ?)
[15:09] <rockworldmi> my one server with ubuntu 10.04 64 bit keeps restarting after few flickering of screen is it os bug .??and i have i3 pc and no graphic card ..8 gb ram
[15:10] <ermo> steelrat: DIL just said that he suspected that your issue was related to integrated graphics or your motherboard. I think it's related to integrated graphics as well. Now go reboot, shooo! ;)
[15:10] <DIL> some devices have own memory -the ones that do not have to be allocated from the 4gb
[15:11] <sskniranjan__>  how to auto identify in the  x chat
[15:11] <crossenvi> hello everyone
[15:12] <rockworldmi> sskniranjan_ mint linux has done it but i dont know how .
[15:13] <crossenvi> Has anyone installed gnome 3 on their system and selected GNOME in the LDM and gmone 2 still loads??
[15:13] <crossenvi> *gnome
[15:13] <theadmin> crossenvi: You should select "Gnome Shell", I beleive
[15:14] <zykotick9_> crossenvi, do you see applications, places, AND System in the panel?
[15:14] <ratcheer> theadmin: On my system, "Gnome" selects gnome-shell.
[15:15] <crossenvi> just application and places
[15:15] <zykotick9_> crossenvi, so it's NOT gnome2, it's gnome3
[15:15] <ermo> ratcheer: +1 here
[15:15] <theadmin> ratcheer: Maybe (s)he just installed gnome shell on top of gnome2
[15:15] <xangua> crossenvi: there is no gnome2 on oneiric
[15:15] <zykotick9_> theadmin, it's gnome3 fallback - no System menu
[15:15] <theadmin> zykotick9_: Oh, I see.
[15:16]  * theadmin has a huge lag (3 seconds) so I guess my messages end up delivered rather late, sorry.
[15:16] <crossenvi> so do i need to remove and install a different package
[15:16] <zykotick9_> !notunity > crossenvi
[15:16] <theadmin> crossenvi: Try to "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell", and if that gives you "gnome-shell is already the latest version", make sure you have the proper graphic drivers.
[15:17] <ermo> theadmin: I take it you haven't read about the recent completion of the simulated mars mission where lag was, what, 25 minutes? ;)
[15:17] <theadmin> ermo: lol nope, did not\
[15:18]  * little_attoparse 
[15:19] <LogicallyDashing> I've reinstalled grub and now my computer's not booting. Says there's no such device as the one I installed to, even though when I boot from my thumb drive, that disk is definitely there.
[15:20] <little_attoparse> did you use UUID's
[15:20] <LogicallyDashing> yes
[15:20] <LogicallyDashing> well, grub-mkconfig did
[15:20] <little_attoparse> try to run update-grub
[15:21] <LogicallyDashing> that doesn't exist within grub2
[15:21] <theadmin> LogicallyDashing: It does, it's called "update-grub2" though
[15:21] <LogicallyDashing> ...oh
[15:21] <crossenvi> @ubottu > yes this is the whole reason why im trying to get gnome3 to work because the gnome tweak tool doesn't load the shell extensions and i realized it was because i wasn't in gnome3 at least thats what i thought. I have the latest version of gnome-shell installed.
[15:22] <LogicallyDashing> ubottu is a bot
[15:22] <hdpb> Assuming it's possible, is it advisable to use and external HD as /home?
[15:22] <crossenvi> I will try to log out and see if there is an option for gnome-shell
[15:22] <varun06> I think I have starte liking Unity
[15:22] <LogicallyDashing> hdpb: how "external" is it? Will you leave it plugged in all the time no exceptions?
[15:22] <crossenvi> Thanks a lot guys
[15:23] <varun06> Gnome gave me few problems
[15:23] <XelmepAW> Hallo
[15:24] <Xelmep> i need a help please !
[15:24] <LogicallyDashing> according to the manpage for update-grub2, it is just a stub for grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which command I've already run
[15:25] <LogicallyDashing> chrooted, no less
[15:25] <Xelmep> !help
[15:25] <Xelmep> I need help abput pptpd
[15:25] <Xelmep> I need help abput pptpd ?
[15:25] <Xelmep> I need help about pptpd ?
[15:25] <theadmin> Xelmep: pppd, you mean?
[15:25] <manish> anyone can help me configure sawfish?
[15:25] <steelrat> ermo: hi
[15:25] <Xelmep> i need to install VPN server
[15:25] <Xelmep> on my VPS ubuntu server
[15:26] <oCean> Xelmep: describe your issue (detailed) on single line. Then sit back and have some patience
[15:26] <Xelmep> ok, Ocean.
[15:26] <steelrat> ermo: the only option that could be related to video that i found was this one: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/img20111119191250.jpg/ i've switched it to PCIEx but nothing changed
[15:27] <little_attoparse> please post your grub.cfg on pastebin or something
[15:27] <LogicallyDashing> I'll try
[15:28] <LogicallyDashing> ha, solved it
[15:28] <little_attoparse> how ?
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[15:28] <steelrat> sorry, guys, i forgot the name.. erry or ermo i have talked to? :)
[15:28] <ermo> steelrat: that's the correct screen.
[15:28] <LogicallyDashing> when I installed grub from my thumb drive it assumed that the stage1.5+ stuff was going to be on that same drive
[15:29] <LogicallyDashing> I thought I'd told it otherwise, with --boot-directory
[15:29] <manish> anyone can help me configure sawfish  ?
[15:29] <LogicallyDashing> But apparently not
[15:29] <little_attoparse> good
[15:29] <ermo> steelrat: you'll need to reboot again and twiddle with 'DVMT'
[15:29] <LogicallyDashing> Anyway I ran grub-install within a chroot of my main drive and now it works.
[15:30] <HelloWorld321> if you're a normal end user, is it pretty safe to 'apt-get autoremove'?
[15:30] <ermo> steelrat: if you can't outright disable the damn thing, use 'FIXED' instead of DVMT and set it to the lowest possible RAM amount.
[15:30] <steelrat> ermo: so.. then it's not the problem.. btw, before that i had only 2Gb of RAM and there was no problem like this, so i think it's something with memory addressing..
[15:30] <Xelmep> I intalled PPTP VPN Server on Ubuntu Server 10.04, I configured by the web tutorial from this link (http://ariejan.net/2010/10/11/setup-a-ubuntu-vpn-server) and now i can`t connect from my PC by the new VPN connection with username and password confidured in  /etc/ppp/chap-secrets. And i have error 800 by dialing.
[15:30] <steelrat> no
[15:30] <crossenvi> Ok im back, here are the choices I have in the LDM "GNOME", "GNOME Classic", "GNOME Classic (No Effects)", "Recovery Console", "Ubuntu", "Ubuntu 2D", "User Defined Session" also the "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" is up to date so im not understanding why gnome shell is not an option. There where no errors when installing.
[15:31] <bastidrazor>  HelloWorld321 autoremove removes dependencies that are not used anymore. it is safe
[15:31] <llutz> Xelmep: check /var/log/daemon.log for errors
[15:31] <ermo> steelrat: Please, could you just minimize the memory and choose 'FIXED' instead of 'DVMT', please?
[15:31]  * ermo has seen those screens before on Dell PCs
[15:31] <steelrat> ermo: this is the screen before i have pressed enter. after enter there was X's on memory size, dvmt mode and dvmt memory size, so it looks disabled
[15:31] <xauth> HelloWorld321: Yes, apt-get autoremove is completely safe as normal user because it will fail. =:-)
[15:31] <ermo> steelrat: Aha.
[15:32] <crossenvi> should i remove gnome-panel? could that be affecting gnome3 from loading
[15:32] <theadmin> crossenvi: That should be "GNOME", then
[15:32] <steelrat> ermo: i can't, 'cause when i choose PCIExt it's grayed
[15:32] <theadmin> crossenvi: If it doesn't load, your graphics driver is at fault, and you need to try another one
[15:32] <bastidrazor> xauth: normal end  user is different than normal user. you're confused
[15:32] <varun06> what is the best tool on Ubuntu to work with GIT
[15:33] <xauth> bastidrazor: Enlighten me. To my knowledge, there is root and there is everything else.
[15:33] <bekks> varun06: "git".
[15:33] <ermo> steelrat: Oh, ok. When you reboot again, pick PCI again, and minimize the memory used, save, reboot, switch to PCIe (not sure if it'll work, but it's worth a try)
[15:33] <Xelmep> llutz: i see ta log file
[15:33] <Xelmep> can i send you to pvt ?
[15:33] <crossenvi> damn...... $3,000 laptop and the graphics card doesn't work in ubuntu.
[15:33] <varun06> any GUI tool
[15:33] <llutz> !pastebin | Xelmep no pm pls
[15:33] <ermo> steelrat: could you please pastebin the output of 'dmesg'? :)
[15:33] <steelrat> ermo: ok, i will, but one question: shouldn't it be a problem before installing extra 2x1Gb? :)
[15:34] <ermo> steelrat: we'll get to that -- there might be some AGP memory hole quirk with the chipset
[15:34] <SolarisBoy> if a debian like system doesn't have lsb_release installed does anyone else know a good way to tell the distribution? like on red hat based you can usually cat /etc/redhat-release
[15:34] <bekks> crossenvi: Define "doesnt work" please.
[15:34] <steelrat> ermo: thanks anyway! i'll be back! :)
[15:34] <llutz> SolarisBoy: cat /etc/issue
[15:34] <steelrat> ermo: oh, wait
[15:34] <ermo> steelrat: good luck mate :)
[15:34] <SolarisBoy> llutz: thanks a lot !! =)
[15:35] <bastidrazor> xauth: end user is a person who uses a product. normal user a restricted account on the box.
[15:35] <gnomitsu> gwibber doesn't want to work with the new identi.ca. in fact, seems like it handles adding new accounts rather ineffectively
[15:35] <steelrat> ermo: will my computer boot when i'll set the video memory as low as i can?
[15:35] <bekks> SolarisBoy: cat /etc/release
[15:35] <crossenvi> When loading drivers for it startx crashes
[15:35] <ermo> steelrat: your add-in video card has its own video RAM on board. So yes, it will.
[15:35] <bekks> crossenvi: Did you investigate why that happens? Which card do you have actually?
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> bekks, llutz is one more dependable than the other or should any do fine,, im writing a script thats going to first check if it get it from lsb_release and if thats not there i wanted to see if i can get it from a file like such
[15:36] <lorddelta> ermo: Were you the one in here who said unity wasn't gnome-shell based? Cause this says otherwise: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/10/15-things-i-did-after-installing-new.html (and yes, I have gnome-shell installed as well).
[15:36]  * xauth was never a people person.
[15:36] <cablop> ｗｈａｔ ｄｏ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｃｏｍｅｎｄ ｎｏｒｍａｌ ｐａｒｔｉｔｉｏｎｉｎｇ ｏｒ ＬＶＭ？
[15:36] <ermo> lorddelta: Uh, no. :)
[15:36] <llutz> SolarisBoy: /etc/issue should always exist, /etc/release won#t
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> lvm!!
[15:36] <bekks> crossenvi: DONT do that again...
[15:36] <lorddelta> ermo: Ok!
[15:36] <bekks> Ups.
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> llutz: got it thanks a lot again
[15:36] <bekks> cablop: Dont mess around with that font crap.
[15:37] <cablop> bekks it was not on purpose
[15:37] <SolarisBoy> cablop: i like lvm personally
[15:37] <cablop> ask quassel why it is showinf that thing
[15:37] <steelrat> ermo: ok, to be clear: will it try to boot with PCI Slot (which i'll choose now) and when fail it will boot with PCIEx?
[15:37] <lorddelta> ermo: You wouldn't happen to know how why my shortcuts tab (under keyboard under system settings) is missing?
[15:37] <gnomitsu> not his fault.. he just leet, yknow
[15:37] <bekks> cablop: because you configured it to do so.
[15:37] <cablop> can you see i am using normal fonts in this moment?
[15:38] <crossenvi> nvidia gforce gtx 560m
[15:38] <cablop> bekks I DIDN'T CONFIGURED ANYTHING
[15:38] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: mine isn't missing but i can't change any of the shortcuts how i used to be able to.. like change the terminal shortcut to open terminator =(
[15:38] <cablop> *CONFIGURE
[15:38] <crossenvi> sorry for the late response
[15:38] <Elda> Bekks no need to be so cross after a one time occurence :>
[15:38] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: What's your 'dpkg -l gnome-control-center | grep -i version'
[15:38] <ermo> steelrat: reboot, change to PCI, use as little ram as possible, reboot, change to PCIe
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> weirdness its blank.. its that on more than one line?
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> one sec
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> 1:3.2.1-0ubuntu1
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> version is a header =)
[15:39] <cablop> huh?
[15:39]  * gnomitsu removes gwibber. reason: unusable
[15:39] <crossenvi> bekks: Sorry nvidia gforce 460M
[15:40] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: Yeah I figured that out too. :P Sorry. But, I'm running a version up... 1:3.2.2-0ubuntu1, yay people taking functionality OUT of software.
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> lol
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> thats always great
[15:41] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: I'd say the Gnome people failed the class where you add features to new bits of software...
[15:41] <SolarisBoy> agreed += 1
[15:41] <t2mahesh> i am new to vim editor, can some one please tell me how can i search and replace ", " with a line break character ?
[15:42] <SolarisBoy> t2mahesh: with a break character?
[15:42] <Xelmep> http://imagebin.org/184757 my logs from ppptd
[15:42] <t2mahesh> SolarisBoy: \n which can give a line break
[15:42] <lorddelta> t2mahesh: try something like s/,/"\n"/g
[15:42] <SolarisBoy> :%s/,/character/g
[15:42] <crossenvi> bekks: It's an alienware m17x r3 system that I'm pissed that I can't use the graphics card in linux!!!! I think it has to do with the fact that it has 2 graphic cards one on board "an intel sandy bridge" and the gforce 460m
[15:42] <SolarisBoy> oh... a new line..
[15:42] <xauth> t2mahesh: :%s/, /\r/g
[15:42] <t2mahesh> yes
[15:43] <Xelmep> http://imagebin.org/184756 logs 1 side
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> yea if you wanna go it globally,, you can also go gc if you want it to ask you on each one
[15:43] <ThePendulum> Greetings. In Gnome 3 for Ubuntu 11.04/11.10, is it possible to set the main panel on the left to use smaller icons, or to appear at the bottom?
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> :%s/, /\r/gc
[15:43] <ThePendulum> *or would be 'and'
[15:44] <ermo> lorddelta: gconf-editor might be worth a try re. keyboard short cuts?
[15:44] <t2mahesh> xauth, SolarisBoy: thanks it worked
[15:44] <t2mahesh> but what is /g or /gc
[15:44] <SolarisBoy> global and global with confirmation @ t2mahesh
[15:44] <xauth> t2mahesh: /g means all occurrences on the line. /c means confirm each replacement
[15:44] <t2mahesh> got it :)
[15:45] <SolarisBoy> : /g would just go ahead and change all occurences with no prompting where the latter would ask if you wanted to change it y/N type menu
[15:45] <SolarisBoy> ... i type so slow =(
[15:45]  * xauth smirks.
[15:45] <llutz> Xelmep: does your VPS have ppp modules loaded? lsmod |grep ppp
[15:45] <xauth> SolarisBoy: or you type too long lines.
[15:45] <Xelmep> llutz: i`m not shure
[15:45] <bekks> crossenvi: And both cards are known to be working I guess - so check the error logs.
[15:45] <SolarisBoy> lol yea,, im wordy =)
[15:45] <Xelmep> how to test it ?
[15:45] <lorddelta> ermo: I did try that, /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands....but I'm wondering if some of the keys got deleted...I don't see anything along the lines of "hide all windows"...and I never seem to be able to find the right documentation when I visit Gnome's site.
[15:45] <llutz> Xelmep: does your VPS have ppp modules loaded? lsmod |grep ppp
[15:46] <Xelmep> llutz: I`m not shure, how to test it???  I have webmin Control Panel
[15:46] <llutz> Xelmep: read the part after the questionmark, its the command to test
[15:46] <SolarisBoy> did someone say to try gconf-editor to change my keyboard shortcuts.. thats a good idea i think i haven't tried that... seems the settings in the keyboard shortcuts tab are greyed out, not "editable"
[15:46] <ermo> lorddelta: I personally prefer unity to GNOME 3, tbh.
[15:46] <llutz> Xelmep: and drop webmin crap
[15:47] <moza> !!keyboard
[15:47] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: If you figure out where those keys are put, or better yet where the documentation for those keys are....
[15:47] <Xelmep> ok llutz just a moment
[15:47] <lorddelta> I'd be obliged.
[15:47] <lorddelta> ermo: I prefer no Unity/Gnome3 :P
[15:47] <xauth> I prefer twm, but then I'm an old geezer.
[15:47] <cablop> anyone discouraging the use of LVM?
[15:48] <lorddelta> moza: And, yes, that's the answer that's plastered very unhelpfully across the internet.
[15:48] <lorddelta> moza: its irrelevant when you don't have that tab, or don't know where the gconf keys are.
[15:48] <cablop> and why ?
[15:49] <zykotick9_> !webmin | Xelmep
[15:49] <moza> lorddelta, i don't understand what you are talking about?
[15:49] <t2mahesh> is it possible to add one line break \r after evey 50th line using vim, there are total 857 lines in the file
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: yea,, im in the editor && lost at the moment =)
[15:50] <moza> oh sorry lorddelta i should have done that in private.
[15:50] <theadmin> t2mahesh: I'm not sure you can do it using vim, but it won't be too hard to write some program that just does that
[15:51] <lorddelta> moza: what ubottu had to say...it doesn't apply if when you go to your System Settings -> Keyboard, there's no tab for shortcuts, at least not in my version
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> t2mahesh: its possible to edit ranges,, and i believe a list of line numbers,,
[15:51] <pr0teus> hey guy's my MMC Card reader (Jmicron) dont recognize nothing. From dmesg i got "mmc0: Card is consuming too much power!" could be this the source of problem?
[15:51] <lorddelta> moza: though I think that's because it got (hopefully temporarily) removed.
[15:51] <ppcblaster> where can I get help getting a Hauppauge PVR 350 working to watch tv in us from analog cable?
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> t2mahesh: if you have like vim compiled with perl/ruby you can likely do some sort of counting loop
[15:51] <t2mahesh> theadmin: yes true, but i thought to ask if there is something already their in vim
[15:52] <moza> lorddelta, it was helping me, and i indeed apologizw for not having asked that to ubottu in private, but i forgot the name of the bot.
[15:52] <theadmin> Maybe ask in #vim, t2mahesh
[15:52] <lorddelta> t2mahesh: Also, there's emacs...
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> ew
[15:52] <OerHeks> pr0teus, yes, if the MMC reader is connected to an unpowered usbhub
[15:52] <lorddelta> t2mahesh: run all your lisp in one place.
[15:52] <hdpb> Logically: Yes, that's the plan.
[15:52] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: What? I like it better than vim. That's just a preference though.
[15:53] <OerHeks> pr0teus, connect it directly, or use an adapter to power the hub
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> i honestly haven't dealt with emacs enough to judge but vim satisfies all my needs,, even for a ide
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> *an
[15:53] <BluesKaj> getting fed up with compiling apps from source that have improper make files and no ./configure files... what's happened to make and cmake , don't ouput errors revealing the problem anymore? All the tutorials I followed resulted in the same errors , "make no targets specified and no makefile found. stop"
[15:53] <zykotick9_> ppcblaster, do you have some digital2analog adapter?  There is no analog cable in the US/Canada anymore.
[15:54] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Don't call vim an ide, that's offensive for it you know -- ide's are bloated silly things
[15:54] <t2mahesh> m very impressed with VIM, once got familiar with the commands its so hot hot
[15:54] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: Oh, but religious holy wars have been fought on this subject. So I will decline to tell you to use emacs, just saying I tried both and like emacs better...(I'm a fan of AI and as such lisp is attractive to me anyhow, not that I know how to use it well)
[15:54] <Xelmep> llutz:  lsmod | grep ppp is not installed
[15:54] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: its true,, i guess ur right,, its actually why i use vim to program ,, or script in rather,, because its *not* all fat and silly etc etc
[15:54] <ppcblaster> well it's what ever channels I get connecting tv card to cable without a box
[15:54] <hdpb> LogicallyDashing: we have a newer laptop and an ancient desktop. Want to get rid of the 70G desktop and consolidate...
[15:55] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: i've been fixing myself to play with it some
[15:55] <llutz> Xelmep: ?? whats the exact output of that command?
[15:55] <Xelmep> nothin
[15:55] <moza> ok, let's try. I have a problem with my keyboard. Sometimes, some keys are not recognized anymore. Like right now, one of my "enter" keys is not responding. The other is working fine. Is there anything i could verify on the software level ?
[15:55] <ppcblaster> I have two cards hvr-1250 and old PVR 350
[15:55] <zykotick9_> ppcblaster, and is that "none" right now?
[15:55] <Xelmep> root@rostuse:~#  lsmod | grep ppp
[15:55] <Xelmep> root@rostuse:~#
[15:55] <Sinjet> The advantage of learning VI over EMACS is that any *nix box you ever work on has VI by default.
[15:55] <llutz> Xelmep: what virtualization is your VPS on (xen, kvm, openvz)?
[15:55] <ppcblaster> none ?
[15:56] <Xelmep> xen
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> Sinjet: truth
[15:56] <Sinjet> or at least learn VI along with EMACS :)
[15:56] <Sinjet> I like both.
[15:56] <zykotick9_> ppcblaster, does your 350 get any channels?  I'd be amazed if it did, it shouldn't.
[15:56] <llutz> Xelmep: you should be able to install the kernel-modules then, check your VPS-controlpanel
[15:56] <linux> hi
[15:56] <theadmin> Sinjet: "every"? Not really, I've met many distributions that come without vim... Ubuntu does so, I think.
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> i just had to close aptana studio which im trying to learn to like... but apparently not so much,, because im back to vim already =)
[15:57] <llutz> Xelmep: if you cannot find something, ask provider-support to install kernel-modules
[15:57] <Sinjet> theadmin: Not talking about vim, vi rather.
[15:57] <zykotick9_> theadmin, every POSIX compatible OS should have vi.
[15:57] <ppcblaster> no when I try VLC or metv or TV-Viewer I do not know how to point the software to the correct place
[15:57] <theadmin> zykotick9_: I see.
[15:57] <Xelmep> llutz: can you tell me how can i do it ?? how to install kernel modules
[15:57] <Xelmep>  ?
[15:57] <steelrat> ermo: ok.. nothing is changed. i tried to run memtest and it's also can see my 4 Gb of RAM, but is it going to test just 3326 Mb? I didn't wait till it ends, too much time. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/img20111119194227.jpg/
[15:57] <Xelmep> by the SSH ?
[15:58] <ppcblaster> select pvr channel search finds none
[15:58] <llutz> Xelmep: sudo modprobe ppp_mppe
[15:58] <Xelmep> ll
[15:58] <Xelmep> llutz: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-164.15.1.el5.028stab068.9/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[15:58] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: This discussion probably belongs in another channel...but I used to use IDEs....and then all the IDEs just became a hassle to use and it was easier and sometimes more productive to just use a text editor with highlighting + commandline. You don't get class browsing with Notepad++/Gedit, but I hear you can do that with vim/emacs....
[15:59] <moza> bonsoir, je me lance avec mon souci de clavier. J'ai une touche qui n'est plus reconnue, ma touche entrée principale. J'utilise la touche entrée du pavé numérique mais j'aimerais bien essayer des vérifications software si vous en avez à me conseiller.
[15:59] <llutz> Xelmep:  check your VPS-controlpanel for such options
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: ya,, ctags/exuberant tags will let you class browse easy
[15:59] <moza> En général le débranchement/rebranchement de mon clavier règle le souci, mais si vous avez des idées plus "soft" je prends.
[15:59] <moza> ouch, sorry for the french
[15:59] <moza> i mixed the channels
[16:00] <scar3crow> can somebody please help me install the driver for an ATI Radeon X1600? (I have downloaded the correct driver>)
[16:00] <Brandon> Hey! Does anyone have managed to chroot ssh or sftp users ?
[16:00] <steelrat> ermo: sorry for annoying, but are you there? :)
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> Brandon: i've done it on a non ubuntu system.. the latest versions of openssh let you do it within ssh its self
[16:01] <SolarisBoy> Brandon: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[16:01] <Xelmep> llutz: OpenVZ is virtualization on the server where i trying to install VPN server
[16:02] <ironfoot495> Hi  why does my 17 inch sreen works but my 37 inch lcd does not/ubuntu 11.04
[16:02] <BluesKaj> scar3crow, you should install the recommended driver in admin additional drivers
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> needs openssh >= 4.8p1
[16:02] <llutz> Xelmep: then you have to ask your provider to enable ppp for the vps, you have no own control over this
[16:02] <Brandon> SolarisBoy: Thanks a lot, I actually plan to do it on Debian but the Debian channel seems to be dead
[16:02] <Xelmep> ok, many thanks llutz
[16:03] <llutz> Xelmep: same situation here with one of my vps, since they changed from XEN to OpenVZ last week :(
[16:03] <satyajeet> hai!
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> Brandon: that should work i *believe* it does ssh also but i forget,, it definately does sftp "jails"
[16:03] <Brandon> SolarisBoy: I only wish to use sftp either ;)
[16:03] <ermo> steelrat: I'm leaving -- will be back in 30 mins. What's up?
[16:03] <Xelmep> i will try to change or buy new VPS Server where i will have more permisions
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> sweet =)
[16:04] <steelrat> ermo: ok.. nothing is changed. i tried to run memtest and it's also can see my 4 Gb of RAM, but is it going to test just 3326 Mb? I didn't wait till it ends, too much time. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/img20111119194227.jpg/
[16:04] <llutz> Xelmep: look for XEN and the ability to install all neccesary modules.
[16:04] <llutz> Xelmep: or just ask the provider about ppp-support, before buying
[16:05] <Xelmep> llutz: tell me is possible to install on this machine, WEBCAM Server to stream video on website. ex. I have wireless IP canera in my home, i want the camera to stream video to server, then server to re-stream to visitors on my website
[16:05] <llutz> Xelmep: i guess it is but i don't know. sry i don't deal wit multimedia/video/audio
[16:05] <Xelmep> ok
[16:05] <linux> you can do that from webcamstudio
[16:05] <Xelmep> many thanks again
[16:06] <Myrtti> Xelmep: the easiness of doing that depends on what file transfer protocol you want to use
[16:07] <Xelmep> Myrtti: i want my wireless IP camera to stream video in my VPS Ubuntu server
[16:07] <Xelmep> then UBUNTU to make stream video to all my visitors in my website
[16:07] <Myrtti> Xelmep: stream steady video or still images?
[16:07] <Xelmep> vide
[16:07] <Xelmep> live streaming
[16:07] <Myrtti> right
[16:08] <lorddelta> SolarisBoy: How's this? http://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/gconf-docs/C/metacity.html <- Works for me, yay changed my show-desktop setting! ^^
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> ahh sweet
[16:09] <jpmh> I have upgraded to 11.10 - right now I am not familiar with the new interface - but I want to persevere - how do I get the "tools" etc menu to come back in firefox?
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> one sec... checking
[16:09] <SolarisBoy> thanks lorddelta
[16:11] <Xelmep> Myrtti: Can you help me ?
[16:13] <Myrtti> Xelmep: sorry
[16:16] <SolarisBoy> lorddelta: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/screenshotat20111119111.png
[16:24] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Klicking gedit > Edit > Preferences > Font&Color > Font > 'Use the system fixed width font (Monospace 8)' is asserted. --  sudo  gedit > Edit > Preferences > Font&Color > Font > 'Use the system fixed width font (Ubuntu Mono 13)' is asserted.  --  How can I change the second setting to resemble the first setting?
[16:25] <bullgard4> s/Klicking/Clicking/
[16:25] <Elda> http://www.firefallthegame.com/home  Also for anyone who is interested in this "Fire Fall" I keep blabbering on about
[16:26] <gmachine_24> what is the link to pasetebin please...
[16:26] <jazwec> hey. i have a problem which seems to be pretty common..my system cant detect my cdrom
[16:26] <gmachine_24> pastebin!
[16:26] <gmachine_24> even
[16:26] <sudipta> how do i know if my machine supports ipv6?
[16:27] <gmachine_24> jazwec, and you're sure this drive works and that the jumper settings etc. are correct?
[16:28] <maxxx> hi; there
[16:28] <gmachine_24> jazwec, and what kind of drive is it? make, model, internal, external?
[16:28] <gmachine_24> jazwec, and what, if anything, have you done so far to try to make it work?
[16:28] <jazwec> gmachine_24 it does, it reads CDs normally..the thing is i need to mount ISO the way it mounts cdrom to make wine recognize it
[16:29] <digitteknohippie> wow, ubuntu has safeguards against "rm -rf /"... try it to see...
[16:29] <llutz> digitteknohippie: stop that shit
[16:29] <jazwec> gmachine_24: ive added /dev/sr0 to my fstab, mount point set to /media/cdrom0 which ive created
[16:29] <llutz> !danger | digitteknohippie
[16:29]  * digitteknohippie pitys the fools.
[16:30] <gmachine_24> get a life hippie
[16:31] <gmachine_24> jazwec, have you run dmesg | grep -i cd | grep -i rom in a terminal?
[16:31] <theadmin> lol, that was ridiculous
[16:31] <bullgard4> !pastebin | gmachine_24
[16:32] <gmachine_24> bullgard4, thanks
[16:32] <maxxx> iceroot in the session
[16:34] <azariah4> Hello! A tutorial tells me todo sudo add-apt-repository ...
[16:34] <azariah4> But I don't have the add-apt-repository command on this ubuntu machine
[16:34] <azariah4> any ideas how I can get it, or otherwise add a ppa repository?
[16:34] <jazwec> gmachine_24: it founds it
[16:35] <ermo> steelrat: back. So?
[16:35] <steelrat> ermo: welcome back.. so, do you have any ideas? :)
[16:36] <ermo> steelrat: Your memtest screenshot is interesting
[16:36] <steelrat> ermo: why?
[16:36] <gmachine_24> jazwec, so check that info against what is in you fstab file by: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[16:36] <oCean> azariah4: add-apt-repository is in the package python-software-properties, install that first (sudo apt-get install python-software-properties) See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs
[16:37] <pr0teus> OerHeks: my MMC reader is built-in (notebook)
[16:37] <xms12182> test
[16:37] <ermo> steelrat: because it shows me which RAM you have :) -- see http://en.community.dell.com/what-do-i-buy/f/3510/p/18798985/19094206.aspx
[16:37] <pr0teus> OerHeks: how do i check if its powered up, if don't how do i do that?
[16:37] <azariah4> oCean: thanks! it worked
[16:37] <gmachine_24> jazwec something like dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9960 user,noauto 0 0
[16:37] <oCean> azariah4: please be aware that, though PPA's can provide lots of additional software, they're not supported (3rd party) repositories
[16:38] <OerHeks> pr0teus, that is unusual, build-in mmc readers should work fine.
[16:38] <gmachine_24> jazwec, it should match the output from the dmesg check
[16:38] <jazwec> gmachine_24:  this is what i added today /dev/sr0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[16:38] <Brandon> SolarisBoy: Still here?
[16:38] <napsterr> #ino
[16:39] <xms12182> facing problem running adempiere on ubuntu 11.xx any help
[16:39] <OerHeks> pr0teus, i thought you used an external, maybe connected to a non-powered hub, not the case.
[16:39] <ermo> steelrat: bottom line: you'll need to update your bios
[16:39] <jazwec> gmachine_24: i dont know what should match..the only similarity i see is the /dev/sr0
[16:39] <steelrat> ermo: well, thank you very much for finding this thread. the only problem - i have no idea how to upgrade it :)
[16:39] <gmachine_24> jazwec, is this an internal or external drive
[16:40] <jazwec> gmachine_24: internal..."eject sr0" works
[16:40] <ermo> steelrat: it's not that bad -- let's see if I can help you out (done this many many times with different boards from different manufacturers)
[16:40] <gmachine_24> ok
[16:40] <rallias> Does anyone know what to put into ${font} to use the font Pursia 18 in conky?
[16:40] <Brandon> Do I obliviously nedd libpam-chroot package for chrooting a sftp user ?
[16:41] <steelrat> ermo: thank you very very much!
[16:41] <gmachine_24> jazwec, so after /dev/sr0 there's no /media/cdrom0 or something like that
[16:41] <gmachine_24> ?
[16:41] <gmachine_24> jazwec, forget that, I just reread your post
[16:42] <ermo> steelrat: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/om/html/appendix.htm#wp1146179
[16:42] <splnet> how do I add an entry into /etc/resolv.conf without it being overwritten?
[16:42] <ermo> steelrat: I'm not sure that makes sense to you, but I'm guessing you'll need a windows installation to do the bios update
[16:42]  * ermo looks some more
[16:42] <maxxx> splnet, copy it backup
[16:43] <splnet> maxxx: I mean it gets overwritten with dhcp
[16:43] <steelrat> ermo: is wine ok? )
[16:44] <ermo> steelrat: probably not. But don't despair just yet.
[16:44] <llutz> splnet: either enter your networkmanager connection or your dhclient.conf to set dns
[16:44] <steelrat> ermo: i don't get it, do i need to just run upgrade program from windows and it will update the bios?
[16:44] <maxxx> splnet, dhcp should not be any problem unless you are static
[16:45] <steelrat> ermo: i thought it should be a bit more complicated
[16:45] <gmachine_24> jazwec, ok I'm at a loss. I don't know what the utf8 refers to but maybe there is someone here to knows more about this
[16:45] <rathemoon> hew im a newbie to linux ubuntu
[16:45] <rathemoon> but im having a problem
[16:45] <Fandekasp> hi guys
[16:45] <ermo> steelrat: I don't have a dell system handy, so I can't answer you on the specifics. Right now I'm looking at the dell website to find the bios.
[16:45] <rathemoon> when i stream flash videos or any other type of video using firefox chronium after a few min its like the framerate lags
[16:45] <rathemoon> how do i fix it
[16:46] <jazwec> gmachine_24: can you please tell me how is your cdrom identified in fstab?
[16:46] <splnet> llutz: right its says overwritten by networkmanager. So I want to add a "search domain.com" line to resolv.conf
[16:46] <ermo> steelrat: could you locate the 'asset tag' that says which specific model your PC is?
[16:46] <Fandekasp> I want to burn a dvd audio ... Tried with brasero and k3b without success. Any expert here to debug that with me ? Thanks in advance
[16:46] <ermo> steelrat: it's somewhere on the case
[16:46] <rathemoon> anyone got a clue
[16:46] <rathemoon> ?
[16:46] <steelrat> ermo: i have inspiron 530
[16:46] <rathemoon> fande u could wine a simple freeware windows program
[16:46] <rathemoon> i do that
[16:46] <ermo> steelrat: not 530s ?
[16:46] <rathemoon> works perfect
[16:47] <llutz> splnet: sudo apt-get install resolvconf, then add that to /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/head   and run sudo resolvconf -u
[16:47]  * ermo wonders if 's' refers to small
[16:47] <steelrat> ermo: nope, just 530
[16:47] <gmachine_24> jazwec, well, see, that's the thing... I just checked... and it's not
[16:47] <splnet> llutz: ah ok thanks!
[16:47] <hrolf> How do I get hibernation to work in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[16:47] <rathemoon> why does streaming videos framerate lag
[16:47] <rathemoon> ?
[16:47] <skione_> hi, I need to list all folders that don't have a file in it
[16:47] <ermo> steelrat: cool -- here's the link: http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cat=sup&cs=04&k=inspiron+530+bios&rpp=12&p=1&subcat=dyd&rf=all&nk=f&sort=-date&ira=False&~srd=False&ipsys=False&advsrch=False&~ck=anav
[16:47] <ermo> steelrat: the top one, version 1.0.18
[16:47] <maxxx> rathemoon, increase the http pipelining to 8
[16:48] <hrolf> I installed uswsusp but still it isn't working
[16:48] <steelrat> ermo: ok, my bios version is 1.0.3, btw
[16:48] <splnet> llutz: it looks like it may be possible to do it in networkmanager: /etc/NetworkManager  but your way seems easier
[16:48] <ermo> steelrat: cool -- then 1.0.18 would definitely be an update, yeah? :D
[16:48] <gmachine_24> jazwec, and my cdrom is listed in /dev not /media
[16:48] <rathemoon> Hello i have big problem.
[16:48] <rathemoon> Quality of my video is good but i have problem with lags.
[16:48] <rathemoon> When im watching video i have lags after 10 minutes of watching.
[16:48] <rathemoon> Please help me is my command for ffmpeg
[16:48] <rathemoon> -acodec libfaac -ar 44100 -ab 128k -vcodec libx264 -level 41 -crf 24 -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 1000k -g 250 -r 25 -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -flags2 +brdo+dct8x8+bpyramid -me umh -subq 7 -me_range 16 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -rc_eq \'blurCplx^(1-qComp)\' -bf 16 -b_strategy 1 -bidir_refine 1 -refs 6 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -threads 8 -f flv
[16:48] <steelrat> ermo: looks so )
[16:48] <FloodBot1> rathemoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <steelrat> ermo: but why only windows.. it's not fair
[16:49] <llutz> splnet: there are several ways to do that, still you shouldn't edit /etc/resolv.conf (the file) manually
[16:49] <SkiOne> ya know, this is off topic, but I actually prefer when people use enter as punctuation. Never understood that actually
[16:49] <theadmin> rathemoon: Holly hell... Try winff, it's a grpahical frontend for ffmpeg which is easy to configure
[16:49] <splnet> llutz: exactly
[16:49] <SkiOne> winff rocks
[16:49] <ermo> steelrat: indeed it isn't
[16:49] <steelrat> ermo: when i click on the link it redirects me on an empy page.. is it checking for windows or what?
[16:49] <ermo> not sure -- does the same here
[16:50] <steelrat> ermo: guess they already deleted the files
[16:50] <rathemoon> how do i open the thing to config it
[16:50] <theadmin> SkiOne: Sure does :)
[16:50] <rathemoon> maxxx how do i raise it
[16:50] <Kieran> Can anyone recommend where to start trouble shouting a none working USB wifi card. it was working until i updated ubuntu, now it does not, lsusb shows the device is there but I'm not sure where to go from there. Thankyou !!
[16:50] <gmachine_24> jazwec, if you go to the /media folder is there a cdrom drive listed there?
[16:51] <ermo> steelrat: That's a bit premature
[16:51] <jazwec> gmachine_24 no it isnt..
[16:51] <synapse> I have a Roland Gaia synthesizer, does anyone know why the device won't show up in audacity?   I don't see any errors in dmesg or /var/log/messages and "lsub" shows the device and everything
[16:51] <splnet> llutz:
[16:51] <steelrat> ermo: but it happens when no one watch for the things
[16:51] <blz> synapse, have you tried #audacity ?
[16:52] <synapse> didn't know it existed
[16:52] <steelrat> is anyone here has a windows pc?? :)
[16:52] <SkiOne> ok I found another way of doing what I need, I wish there was an easier way to do this. List any folders that do not have a specified folder in it
[16:52] <blz> synapse, they're probably more helpful than we are =)
[16:52] <blz> steelrat, yes, I do
[16:52] <splnet> llutz: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head : #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[16:52] <ermo> steelrat: http://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/530_1018.EXE
[16:52] <synapse> I figured someone might know where to at least look
[16:52] <theadmin> steelrat: I haz, why?
[16:52] <synapse> I've been googling the hell out of this
[16:53] <synapse> do I need a driver if it is seen on the USB side in lsusb?
[16:53] <synapse> roland provides win/mac drivers
[16:53] <blz> synapse, yes you do
[16:53] <ermo> steelrat: instructions here: http://www.downloadplex.com/Drivers/BIOS-System-Updates/Dell/dell-inspiron-desktop-530-bios-1.0.18_183978.html
[16:53] <synapse> so if there were a driver available, I would use modprobe to put it in the kernel?
[16:54] <abhijit> i need to press keyboard shortcut twice to bring up the synapse. help
[16:54] <blz> synapse, haha I can't really help you much with that.  If you find the driver, there will likely be compile instructions and whatnot along with it
[16:54] <blz> and if not, someone more knowlegeable than I could maybe help
[16:54] <ermo> steelrat: I don't suppose you know someone locally who can help you create a bootable FreeDOS usb key?
[16:54] <steelrat> ermo: btw, driver link looks like a broken one: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId={DriverID} i guess there should be a driverid
[16:55] <steelrat> ermo: can i do it with netbootin?
[16:55] <maxxx> rathemoon, http://tutzone.org/2009/01/increase-firefox-speed-by-10-30x.html
[16:56] <greg_> son compatibles las tarjetas de red netgear con xubuntu?
[16:56] <maxxx> greg_, english sorry for that
[16:57] <splnet> llutz: anyway it seems to work thanks!
[16:57] <greg_> ok sorry maxxx
[16:58] <brjannc> !es | greg_
[17:00] <steelrat> ermo: you know, link on DRMK are broken too, looks like there's a problem with dell site: http://www.google.ru/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=DRMK+environment
[17:01] <maxxx> steelrat, subject is lost can you please elaborate
[17:02] <steelrat> maxxx: i was talking to ermo, he found that i should update my bios, but i link for downloading the driver is broken for me
[17:03] <maxxx> steelrat, update the bios is not a good option..i think you know that..
[17:03] <jpmh> I have an entry in the launcher bar, under unity, for putty.  If I have a putty session open then it jumps to that - GREAT - BUT - how do I open another putty session?
[17:03] <steelrat> maxxx: why not? in my case it looks like the only option
[17:03] <compdoc> steelrat, the motherboard bios?
[17:03] <steelrat> compdoc: yep
[17:04] <steelrat> compdoc: is there another one?
[17:04] <maxxx> steelrat, bios is not something if you mess you can get away with it
[17:04] <compdoc> steelrat, sometimes that fixes everything, if youre having a problem
[17:04] <compdoc> steelrat, yes, actually, there are several things that can be upgraded
[17:05] <maxxx> steelrat, unless you ran out of all option and want to shot down in flames..try it
[17:05] <ermo> steelrat:  http://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/530_1018.EXE <- does that link work?
[17:05] <pikaciu> jpmk: another terminal session , maybe
[17:06] <hrolf> How do I get hibernation to work in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:06] <hrolf> I installed uswsusp but still it isn't working
[17:07] <ermo> steelrat: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freedos+usb+boot
[17:07] <steelrat> ermo: yes, it is! thank you very much!! and it wasn't hard! :)
[17:07] <ermo> steelrat: what wasn't that hard?
[17:08] <maxxx> steelrat, bios don't even think about it ..stay with it or buy any other one; failure is not a option with it.
[17:08] <steelrat> ermo: button on lmgtfy says 'was this so hard?' :)
[17:09] <compdoc> maxxx, sometimes it is necessary to update the bios. Thats why they come out with updates, after all
[17:09] <ermo> steelrat: hehe :D
[17:09] <maxxx> compdoc, i would rather say people take changes to fix a small problem and end up in disaster.
[17:09] <steelrat> maxxx: i have 4 gb of ram, my pc can see only 3,2 Gb. I think it's worth to risk )) especialy when upgrading bios is just start the .exe file
[17:10] <hrolf> How do I get hibernation to work in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:10] <compdoc> maxxx, disaster is very rare if you read the instructions.
[17:11] <maxxx> steelrat, if can compile..thinks and solve you problem; giving the max integer to ram output
[17:11] <compdoc> steelrat, are you running a 32 bit OS? that might just be normal
[17:11] <steelrat> compdoc: nope, it's 64
[17:12] <compdoc> does the bios update list that as a fix?
[17:12] <steelrat> maxxx: i have never compiled the kernel. so point'n'click adventure with bios upgrade seems easily to me
[17:12] <steelrat> compdoc: yep http://en.community.dell.com/what-do-i-buy/f/3510/p/18798985/19094206.aspx my case, except the OS
[17:13] <maxxx> steelrat, i can admire you determination if you can get through go ahead..
[17:13] <ermo> steelrat: http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/05/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-ubuntu-freedos/
[17:14] <steelrat> maxxx: i just think it worth to try, why not?
[17:14] <felipe_ec> hi everybody, i was wondering if somebody can help me. I want to automatically mount a MTP devices
[17:14] <steelrat> ermo: i'm going to just flash this img with unetbootin: http://derek.chezmarcotte.ca/?p=188
[17:15] <maxxx> steelrat, my friend i would rather suggest try compiling the kernel in virtual box and i don't think so you have to update the bios
[17:15] <Sam_eye_am> Anyone have Nvidia video card 11.10 issues?
[17:15] <ermo> maxxx: Uhm ... dell support says otherwise :)
[17:15] <compdoc> maxxx, ubuntu 64 bit needs no kernel options to see 4 gigs of ram, does it?
[17:16] <pr0teus> OerHeks: yeah i thought that's weird too, but i don't know how to solve it =(
[17:16] <ermo> compdoc/maxxx: The issue is that the BIOS has a faulty 'memory map' that can't show 4GB of RAM
[17:17] <fdgh> hi
[17:17] <pr0teus> OerHeks: i'm starting to guess thats my x64 version, but is already up to date
[17:17] <compdoc> ermo, yeah, I saw that
[17:17] <ermo> compdoc/maxxx: steelrat is running and ooold bios version (1.0.3) and the memory map issue was fixed in 1.0.12. I've told him to try to flash the newest version, which is 1.0.18
[17:17] <fdgh> anyone help me with clonezilla?
[17:18] <compdoc> fdgh, maybe
[17:18] <maxxx> steelrat, does you motherboard support 4gb ram as you imply
[17:18] <steelrat> ye, it's 2007 version
[17:18] <steelrat> maxxx: i guess it does
[17:18] <fdgh> compdoc, im trying to restore 2 disk images to 2 partitions on 1 drive
[17:19] <ermo> maxxx: No offense, but did you bother to read the links I pasted? If you didn't see it the 1st time, here it is: http://en.community.dell.com/what-do-i-buy/f/3510/p/18798985/19094206.aspx
[17:19] <maxxx> see i still you ibm t41 with 2002 bios its not a problem to me in 512mb ram running it
[17:20] <compdoc> fdgh, I have never gotten that sort of thing to work - clonezilla is tricky when trying to mess with partitions. Better to restore one disk at a time, and combine the files some other way
[17:21] <fdgh> compdoc, i have a linux disk (ssd) which i wana keep, and a windows XP disk image, and a windows 7 image. i want to resotre the 2 windows images to 2 partitions on my 2nd 1TB hdd so i can dual boot them
[17:22] <root_____> how to install mpd on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy ?
[17:22] <fdgh> compdoc, i guess its going to be hard work
[17:23] <root_____> sure?
[17:23] <fdgh> i think its possible by renaming some files the image is saved as
[17:23] <compdoc> fdgh, sometimes it goes that way
[17:23] <maxxx> root_____, why are you using Hardy this date
[17:23] <root_____> cz my pc to old
[17:23] <l1nuxman> Can someone help. I'm getting an error when trying to start apache. I get this " (2)No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /etc/apache2/${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log." . I greped for grep -r "/etc/apache2/\${APACHE_LOG_DIR}" /etc/apache2 and got no results. http://pastebin.com/AAdnH1ZS & here's a trace of 'trace -f -o trace.txt /usr/sbin/apache2 -X' http://pastebin.com/LHmG00k3
[17:23] <root_____> Pentium 4 2.0Ghz , 1GB OF RAM
[17:23] <fdgh> root_____, you can use any distro just make it a light de
[17:23] <felipe__> does anybody knows how to use banshee with an MTP device?
[17:23] <fdgh> thats not even bad specs
[17:24] <maxxx> root_____, there are other distros can support less the 512 ram
[17:24] <root_____> im using lxde hardy
[17:24] <fdgh> lxde 12 wont be slower
[17:24] <fdgh> because its still lxde
[17:25] <felipe__> i'm using ubuntu 11.10... any ideas?
[17:25] <maxxx> fdgh, simple person like i uses kde, gnome..
[17:25] <root_____> Can you give me advice to use what distro?
[17:26] <maxxx> root_____, puppy linux you can give a try
[17:26] <pikaciu> root_____:opensuse 11.4
[17:26] <root_____> gnome? weighed heavily on ram
[17:26] <pikaciu> root_____:with lxde
[17:26] <lorddelta> root____: I was going to say it was a little silly to ask that in an ubuntu support channel...but...I'd recommend Arch...
[17:26] <maxxx> 486 puppy rocks
[17:27] <root_____> i can using arch
[17:27] <maxxx> root_____, i use slackware
[17:27] <root_____> What version can I use?
[17:27] <root_____> with that specs
[17:27] <lorddelta> root_____: Be brave. Use OpenBSD. ;)
[17:27] <maxxx> 13.37
[17:28] <pikaciu> i never successed with BSD
[17:28] <root_____> openbsd?
[17:28] <lorddelta> Might as well use unix once in your life, after getting acquainted with a "Like Unix" system, I fugre.
[17:28] <root_____> version?
[17:28] <ermo> lorddelta: ... but OpenBSD? ;)
[17:29] <ermo> lorddelta: might as well begin flogging yourself while your at it, then!
[17:29]  * ermo runs
[17:29] <root_____> fuih
[17:30] <root_____> i can install artwiz fontpack on hardy , but to hard -_-
[17:30] <lorddelta> ermo: Heh. I suppose there's also Solaris...(at least I think that's a unix derivative....)
[17:30] <ermo> lorddelta: for what it's worth, I dabbled in running a FreeBSD server in the 6.x timeframe. Lovely system. Hated the volume manager and partitioning was much less of a major PITA under linux (cfdisk + lvm2)
[17:30] <ermo> lorddelta: it is -- it's SVR4 at heart, IIRC
[17:30] <hrolf> How do I get hibernation to work in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:31] <ermo> hrolf: I don't suppose casting 'sleep' is an option?
[17:31] <ermo> hrolf: (j/k)
[17:31] <hrolf> ermo: casting sleep?
[17:31] <lorddelta> hrolf: DnD joke
[17:31] <DCC_SEND> where's a channel for Linux Mint
[17:31] <DCC_SEND> It's the only Debian remake I haven't tried
[17:31] <maxxx> yeh!  :))
[17:32] <hrolf> lorddelta: What's a DnD joke?
[17:32] <root_____> exit
[17:32] <lorddelta> hrolf: *facepalm*
[17:32] <DCC_SEND> I'm trying to change the color of a .png icon in this KML file: http://pastebin.com/SaLJEhGg ... When I use the <color> tag, only the outline changes color, the center part stays black. How do I make it so the entire icon is orange and not only the border?
[17:32] <root_____> :exit
[17:32] <ermo> hrolf: never mind
[17:32] <hrolf> lorddelta: :p
[17:32] <theadmin> DCC_SEND: The channel for Linux mint is #linuxmint on irc.spotchat.org
[17:32] <hrolf> Dungeons and Dragons?
[17:32] <ermo> indeed
[17:32] <theadmin> DCC_SEND: I kept telling em to switch to Freenode but they never listened :D
[17:33] <lorddelta> Say...anyone use pidgin? I've always wondered how to get the 12 NickServs and 2 ChanServs to shut up when I login....
[17:33] <maxxx> DCC_SEND, are you on debian
[17:34] <ermo> lorddelta: I'm currently writing this from an Xfce environment on a custom built funtoo system, so yeah, I'm not totally unfamiliar with self-inflicted pain
[17:34] <theadmin> lorddelta: Mind replying to my PM?
[17:35] <vlt> Hello. I plugged in a wireless USB adapter, the kernel loads the "p54usb" module but no new network device appears. Any idea what to do?
[17:36] <maxxx> vlt, can you modeprobe the usb
[17:36] <vlt> maxxx: What does that mean?
[17:36] <datz_> hello everyone
[17:37] <maxxx> lspci -v please the output
[17:37] <BrixSat> hello i have my desktop with efects but i cant move windows :S
[17:37] <datz_> how to play .asx files on Ubuntu?
[17:37] <datz_> OK I will wait
[17:37] <datz_> :)
[17:38] <vlt> maxxx: Are you sure about the "pci" part?
[17:38] <ermo> datz_: .asx? Isn't that a proprietary microsoft container format used for e.g. streams?
[17:38] <Doodie> hi, i want to create partition of my file system because it has about 130 GB empty space. I tried with gparted but since this is the ubuntu's main drive, i cannot unmount it or split its partition. I need some help.
[17:38] <maxxx> vlt, how we'll know what to probe the module then
[17:38] <jessie1>  hey guys! freshly loaded ubuntu on my mac mini,  completed install, rebooted. I opted to replace osx. however it still shows 2 options for osx in grub ( selecting them loads nothing ).. how can I remove them?
[17:39] <huamm__> hy , how to make my xterm autoload ~/.Xdefaults on hardy ?
[17:39] <jpmh> with unity how do I set my own (and for that matter edit) the key-stroke/hot key combinations so that I can make a hot key launch something for example
[17:39] <huamm__> at startup
[17:39] <ermo> jessie1: did you search the wiki? ISTR that there's  grub2 documentation that shows you what you need to edit :)
[17:39] <ermo> jessie1: as in: "I don't remember off the top of my head"
[17:40] <vlt> maxxx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743429/
[17:40] <jessie1> ermo: Thank you. Finally got ubuntu loaded after doing 3 days of reading and trying to get it to work ;) I will look it up..
[17:41] <vlt> Doodie: What does "create a partition of my file system" exactly mean (to you)?
[17:41] <ermo> jessie1: Yeah, I know. RTFM, however politely it is put, is never a message that leaves you jumping up and down yelling 'oh joy! I get to read more documentation! Yaaay!'
[17:42] <jessie1> ermo:  Yup! I will go rtfm ;) will be back if I have any questions. its running slowly on my mini so will also look up optimizations ( firefox takes 10 secs to load from cold start ). Thanks again
[17:42] <HelloWorld321> I can't help it: I'm trying to fix my video driver.  I'm following the instructions at [SOLVED] 11.10 stops booting at "Checking battery state ... [OK]"   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820  because that's exactly the symptom I was having.   It froze at "Checking battery state ..."[OK]"
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> but it turns out that I have a Intel® GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem, so nVidia drivers won't work.
[17:43] <BrixSat> hello i have my desktop with efects (compiz) but i cant move windows :S i can double click the frame of windows and it will resize but i cant select it or move it
[17:43] <DanS326_home> I get error: out of disk when starting my ubuntu server 11.04 I am trying to use a live cd(USB) to run the boot repair tool but unity is failing in the live envornment somehow I dont get the launcher actually all I get is a file menu at the top where I can open a new window to view files
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> how do I install video drivers for Intel® GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem on ubuntu from ssh?
[17:43] <maxxx> vlt, wireless usb is not in the list
[17:43] <vlt> maxxx: Because it’s a list of *PCI* devices, maybe?
[17:43] <ermo> jessie1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration <- try that
[17:44] <jessie1> ermo:  OMW ty =) I havent loaded up linux since 5+ years afaik and wow it has changed.. runs a lot better then osx on the mini!
[17:44] <pikaciu> vlt: did you try sudo service udev restart
[17:44] <DanS326_home> keybaord shortcuts don't seem to work  so I cant find a way to bring up terminal ... since I can access the files .. is there a file that would get ran when i hit a treminal shortcut that I could simply navigate to and run manually
[17:45] <theadmin> DanS326_home: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal normally
[17:45] <linux> has any one get mw2 to work on ubuntu
[17:45] <maxxx> vlt, lsusb
[17:45] <ermo> jessie1: I think there's an explanation in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS article -- but you may still need to also read the Grub2 howto to get the entire picture
[17:45] <kostasa> is there any easy way to listen web radion on ubuntu
[17:45] <kostasa> ?
[17:46] <jessie1> ermo:  Yup thats the link I was looking at a min ago. I also found out that I have to bless the partition which will help speed things up
[17:46] <vlt> maxxx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743436/  <-- lsusb -v
[17:47] <ermo> jessie1: good luck then :)
[17:47] <DanS326_home> theadmin:  that worked thanks
[17:47] <jessie1> ermo:  Thank you for your help!
[17:48] <ermo> jessie1: :D
[17:48] <vlt> pikaciu: “service udev restart” didn’t change anything. No wireless device available.
[17:48] <steelrat> ermo: no success.. it says insufficient memory: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/img20111119214420.jpg/ i wonder - what kind of memory it needs..
[17:49] <bobbo> ciao a tutti
[17:49] <ermo> steelrat: did you get a boot option menu? You might need to enabled 'high memory'
[17:49] <pikaciu> vlt: a driver issue then ...
[17:49] <ermo> steelrat: when you boot the USB stick to FreeDOS, I mean. DOS had a concept of 'high memory'
[17:50] <steelrat> ermo: probably it's not freedos image i got, sorry, going to download freedos)
[17:50] <rungdung> How do I run stuff with Dosbox
[17:50] <steelrat> ermo: is this what i need? http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/
[17:51] <ermo> steelrat: http://derek.chezmarcotte.ca/?p=188 <- that's the one you used before, right?
[17:51] <musja_> hey everybody, need some laptop diagnostic advice
[17:51] <vlt> pikaciu: Obviously, but how to fix it?
[17:52] <steelrat> ermo: yep, right, looks like this is freedos too
[17:52] <maxxx> vlt, modprobe ISL3887
[17:52] <pikaciu> vlt: what's the model ?
[17:52] <ubuntu> 123qwe
[17:52] <ubuntu> 123qwe
[17:53] <theadmin> ubuntu: Please stop that
[17:53] <ermo> steelrat: that was my point. When you boot from that USB key, do you see a menu? If you do, could you post a screenshot of it? Or better yet: I have a working freedos .iso image than I can hook you up with
[17:53] <maxxx> pikaciu, Siemens Intersil ISL 3387 wireless
[17:53] <vlt> maxxx: Not found.
[17:53] <musja_> if my laptop touchpad stops working, and the mouse buttons (separate hardware) stop working, and there is no recognition of the touchpad in ubuntu, does that mean I'm definitely dealing with a hardware issue?
[17:53] <ubuntu> fuck
[17:53] <maxxx> ok
[17:53] <ermo> ubuntu: time to change your password? ;)
[17:53] <HelloWorld321> how do I install video drivers for Intel GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem on ubuntu?
[17:53] <vlt> pikaciu: "ID 083a:4521 Accton Technology Corp. Siemens S30863-S1016-R107-2 802.11g Wireless Adapter [Intersil ISL3887]"
[17:54] <ermo> (for the record, the password you used is a really poor one)
[17:54] <steelrat> ermo: there was blue boot menu with only one option named 'default' ))
[17:54] <ermo> steelrat: ok
[17:54] <soreau> HelloWorld321: They are already installed and working by default
[17:54] <maxxx> try modprobe 083a:4521
[17:54] <soreau> maxxx: What?
[17:54] <vlt> maxxx, pikaciu: Someone reccommended installing "linux-firmware-nonfree". Where to find this pkg?
[17:54] <steelrat> ermo: ok, i'm going to boot in official freedos image
[17:55] <soreau> vlt: You only need that for debian
[17:55] <HelloWorld321> actuallly ... I messed 'em up during the switch from Natty to Ocelot, so they don't work :P
[17:55] <pikaciu> vlt: synaptic
[17:55] <vlt> pikaciu: Not listed here.
[17:55] <HelloWorld321> but it sounds like there will be a nice easy apt-get package to purge & reinstall?
[17:55] <maxxx> vlt, usb is already been identified so we only want to locate the module
[17:55] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com
[17:55] <pikaciu> vlt: did you add all repositories ?
[17:56] <vlt> pikaciu: I have “main” and “universe” activated in apt.
[17:56] <HelloWorld321> tx ... brt ...
[17:56] <Anom01y> hi,
[17:56] <Anom01y> is Nasa Wirlwind avail for Ubuntu ?
[17:56] <republic> what is good WYSIWYG html editor in ubuntu? I have tried kompozer, but it does not satisfy my need. Is there any better one? Perhaps quite similar in capability with FrontPage or Dreamweaver?
[17:56] <vlt> maxxx: The module loaded is “p54usb”.
[17:56] <republic> I know that the best thing is using just simply editor, but, I am somewhat love WYSIWYG editor
[17:56] <ermo> republic: is bluefish an option? /me doesn't remember how good it is
[17:57] <vlt> pikaciu: Do I need “multiverse” or anything else?
[17:57] <republic> ermo: is it WYSIWYG html editor?
[17:57] <maxxx> modprobe p54usb
[17:57] <soreau> republic: komposer
[17:57] <maxxx> dmesg | grep p54usb
[17:57] <pikaciu> vlt: add all, to be sure
[17:57] <republic> soreau: I have tried komposer, but I think I need replacement
[17:57] <maxxx> did you get registered
[17:57] <vlt> pikaciu: “all”?
[17:58] <soreau> republic: Run your editor of choice in wine then
[17:58] <vlt> maxxx: It’s already loaded.
[17:58] <maxxx> can it scan wireless network
[17:58] <republic> soreau: ah but it will not be as nice as native gtk application :(
[17:59] <pikaciu> vlt: http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-linux-nonfree
[17:59] <vlt> maxxx: There’s no device to scan.
[17:59] <pikaciu> vlt: http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-linux-nonfree
[17:59] <soreau> republic: Thats not really a ubuntu issue
[17:59] <maxxx> iwconfig
[17:59] <scristopher> hi i have an issue with my gcc path (i believe thats the problem) i believe its not using gcc in /usr/bin but not sure how to check. anyone have any hints for a n00b?
[17:59] <HelloWorld321> soreau: Thanks.  my log is at http://pastebin.com/Gpu3UKpP
[18:00] <HelloWorld321> soreau: I see some nVidia stuff in there, and that's likely to be part of the problem, but I was niavely following instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820
[18:00] <atong> hi, having problems with ia32-libs & libstdc++
[18:00] <maxxx> !blacklist
[18:01] <vlt> maxxx: What to do with “iwconfig”?
[18:01] <HelloWorld321> maxxx: if that's for me, I don't understand
[18:01] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Yes, that is the problem. Try removing nvidia-current
[18:01] <atong> how do i isntall a 32bit libstdc++ so that i can g++ a 32bit target from 64bit host?
[18:01] <steelrat> ermo: are you still here ? :) now i've got this boot menu: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/img20111119215551.jpg/ and still insufficient memory
[18:02] <HelloWorld321> removing ...
[18:02] <bobbo2011> Ciao raga come faccio a scaricare ?
[18:02] <steelrat> ermo: and nothing about high memory. could you, please, send me your freedos image?
[18:02] <vlt> !it | bobbo2011
[18:02] <bobbo2011> ok
[18:02] <maxxx> so what the out put of iwconfig i want to know wlan0; or wlan something else
[18:03] <HelloWorld321> soreau: I removed nVidia-current, and it said it was switching to nVidia-173, so I'm removing that too now
[18:03] <ermo> steelrat: pick default, the menu I'm talking about comes after that :)
[18:03] <maxxx> HelloWorld321, blacklist is not for you sorry for that
[18:03] <vlt> maxxx: As I already told you (multiple times) there’s no new (wireless) device.
[18:03] <soreau> HelloWorld321: yes, then restart X by logging out
[18:03] <ermo> steelrat: you'll understand when you see it. But I'll get started on the iso -- I wonder if I can unpack the exe ...
[18:04] <maxxx> but your paste is on my board Siemens S30863-S1016-R107-2 802.11g Wireless Adapter [Intersil ISL3887]
[18:04] <maxxx> are you trolling the session
[18:04] <steelrat> ermo: why do you need to unpack it? anyway the program should put it in the right place.. so unpacking won't help, i guess . )
[18:04] <datz_> can someone tell me how to play .asx videos on Ubuntu
[18:04] <datz_> ?
[18:04] <HelloWorld321> soreau: k.  rebooting.  btw: it last said i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf is dangling; also, I'm using ssh to connect, since the graphics driver doesn't boot
[18:05] <soreau> HelloWorld321: just reboot and see what happens
[18:05] <HelloWorld321> soreau: doing so
[18:05] <Nagaraj> Hello
[18:05] <hrolf> How to associate file type with a program (or change file associations) ?
[18:06] <HelloWorld321> soreau: it looks like I'm still pretty much where I was.  I boot, and then after it loads Ubuntu it tries to start the desktop, but without a good video driver I just get a blank screen
[18:06] <Nagaraj> is there any ruby on rails channel?
[18:06] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Does lsmod|grep nvidia show anything?
[18:06] <vlt> maxxx: Yes, that’s what the USB stack knows about it. And the correct driver module p54usb was loaded. But no other device than “lo” and “eth0” appeard.
[18:07] <soreau> vlt: What does dmesg say aout it?
[18:07] <cryptodira> i have recently moved to ubuntu from OS/2 and OS X which both offer 'mouse wrap around".... (the mouse appears on the opposite edge of the screen when reaching one edge)..... how is this achieved in ubuntu 10.10??
[18:08] <ermo> cryptodira: To be honest, I've never, ever heard of it!
[18:08] <steelrat> ermo: you know, when i choose deafult it's just refreshin the counter 'deafult boot in 10 seconds'. and when this counter come to 0 it refreshing and starts again. it's weird
[18:08] <huamm_> very fast
[18:08] <HelloWorld321> soreau: lsmod | grep nvidia comes out blank
[18:08] <ermo> cryptodira: ... but that doesn't mean that it's not available of course
[18:08] <bekks> cryptodira: Never heard of that on non-OSX/OS/2.
[18:08] <ermo> steelrat: strange
[18:09] <soreau> HelloWorld321: What about lsmod|grep i9 ?
[18:09] <HelloWorld321> soreau: lsmod | grep nvidia comes back with 4 lines
[18:09] <steelrat> ermo: ye.. could i get your working image? :)
[18:09] <ralphholzmann> how do you add a repo to ubuntu 11.10 server? "add-apt-repository" isn't an available command
[18:09] <ermo> steelrat: you'd be able to burn an iso and boot from that?
[18:09] <cryptodira> ermo, very handy for large screens...saves a LOT of scrolling.. :)
[18:09] <steelrat> ermo: or am i doing something wrong?
[18:09] <soreau> HelloWorld321: You just said blank.. which is it?
[18:09] <HelloWorld321> soreau: that has 5 lines
[18:09] <ermo> cryptodira: good point
[18:09] <steelrat> ermo: yes, that what i did. burnt the image and boot from it
[18:09] <ermo> steelrat: hard to tell -- oh, so you booted the FreeDOS cd image and it still wouldn't let you boot?
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> soreau: grepping for nvidia came up blank; grepping for intel came up with 5 entries; grepping for i9 came up with 5 different entries
[18:10] <stabman> channels
[18:10] <vlt> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743456/
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> soreau:  http://pastebin.com/8WKiPNZY
[18:10] <nathansuchy> check out linux.nathanlive.com it is a really good but new resource for linux and ubuntu
[18:11] <soreau> vlt: This might be a problem: (p54usb) cannot load firmware isl3887usb (-2)!
[18:12] <steelrat> ermo: no it did, but not in deafult.. in win98, win2000, freedos modes
[18:12] <maxxx> vlt, try modprobe isl3887
[18:12] <steelrat> ermo: and i didn't notice a difference and i didn't met the memory menu..
[18:12] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Does X log show any nvidia references? grep -Rin nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:12] <vlt> m(
[18:12] <vlt> maxxx: Again: Not found
[18:13] <vlt> soreau: Any idea why?
[18:13] <soreau> vlt: What is the vendor product id as per lsusb?
[18:13] <huamm_> opensuse based ubuntu ? debian ?
[18:14] <vlt> soreau: "ID 083a:4521 Accton Technology Corp. Siemens S30863-S1016-R107-2 802.11g Wireless Adapter [Intersil ISL3887]"
[18:14] <maxxx> try Siemens S30863-S1016-R107-2
[18:14] <HelloWorld321> soreau: thanks again ... and yes, it does have nVidia refernces in the current Xorg.0.log
[18:14] <maxxx> modprobe Siemens S30863-S1016-R107-2
[18:15] <maxxx> i just want to locate the module for the usb wireless
[18:15] <kdog> How do I get the dash to not auto-hide on 11.10?
[18:15] <ermo> steelrat: I'm working on that cd image :)
[18:15] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Then you havent successfully removed the nvidia driver. Try dpkg -l|grep nvidia to see what is installed (packages with ii next to them are)
[18:15] <bekks> maxxx: You have to investigate which wireless chipset that device has builtin.
[18:15] <HelloWorld321> soreau: I've updated my Xorg.0.log pastebin
[18:15] <HelloWorld321> soreau: k, tx
[18:16] <soreau> HelloWorld321: If there arent any nvidia packages installed, try reinstalling libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:16] <HelloWorld321> soreau: hm it has 3 entries for that: rc nvidia-173, rc nvidia-current, and ii nvidia-settings
[18:16] <bobbo2011> Good evening from Italy
[18:16] <steelrat> ermo: thanks! :)
[18:17] <HelloWorld321> soreau: apt-get purge all three?
[18:17] <ralphholzmann> how can i install the official java6 or 7 jdk installed on ubuntu 11.10 server ?
[18:17] <steelrat> ermo: i can send you my email if it would be easy with email
[18:17] <HelloWorld321> soreau: apt-get purge nvidia-* ?
[18:17] <ralphholzmann> I cant even get a repo installed
[18:17] <soreau> HelloWorld321: nvidia-settings is the only one installed. Remove it then reinstall the package I said
[18:17] <maxxx> bekks, there is home work for vlt to know that module is loaded to the wireless usb then only we can find a solution to it.
[18:17] <HelloWorld321> k
[18:17] <ermo> steelrat: I'm going to PM you now -- which IRC client are you using?
[18:18] <steelrat> ermo: smuxi
[18:18] <bekks> maxxx: Please rephrase, I didnt get what you wanted to say.
[18:18] <bobbo2011> Somebodies Know the channel to download some films ?
[18:18] <vlt> bekks, maxxx: The module loaded by the kernel is “p54usb”.
[18:18] <huamm_> how to make .Xdefaults autoload at startup in my xterm
[18:18] <ermo> steelrat: do you see my pm?
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> does "rc" on a dpkg listing mean that its removed?
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> k, I did that, and it says deferred processing taking place
[18:19] <soreau> vlt: See what it says about firmware here http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/P54_USB.html
[18:19] <huamm_> on lxde?
[18:19] <vlt> soreau: Thank you.
[18:19] <Zenger> how can I open a program in a new terminal window ?
[18:20] <Zenger> so like ./hello is in 1 window and ./die in another window ? (bash windows)
[18:20] <HelloWorld321> I'm rebooting, and then I'm going to grep that dpkg again to make sure it's clean
[18:20] <yeats> HelloWorld321: yes - 'rc' means "removed but configuration files remain"
[18:20] <soreau> HelloWorld321: grep X log for nvidia instead..
[18:20] <huamm_> fail
[18:20] <maxxx> bekks, so if its then vlt should register the module if that work i will give him a script and things could be fine then
[18:21] <m4yer> any reason, why there's still no thunderbird 8.0 available for 11.10? although i cant find any ppa ...
[18:21] <bekks> maxxx: What do you mean by "register the module"?
[18:22] <HelloWorld321> soreau: I just did a reboot, and I still see nVidia in my Xorg.0.log ... but all three items in the dpkg are marked "rc".  Am I ready to install the package you mentioned earlier?
[18:22] <maxxx> bekks, are you new or what
[18:22] <soreau> vlt: Do you have anything called isl3887usb in /lib/firmware/ by chance?
[18:22] <stabman> at the time when i was learning to program, I made a C prog and ran it... and it wrote arbitrary rubbish in my /home and reduced from 4gb free space to 900mB and nw am facing space cruch
[18:22] <soreau> HelloWorld321: You should have already reinstalled it
[18:22] <bekks> m4yer: Because there are no major version bumps within an ubuntu release and no one build a pp until now.
[18:22] <stabman> would it be okey to... back it up, format and then restore?
[18:22] <bekks> maxxx: No. I just havent heard "register a module" in ten years of linux.
[18:23] <soreau> maxxx: Me neither, in 7 years
[18:23] <floren> hy every one
[18:23] <m4yer> bekks: the second part is the main thing i dont get ;) even the thunderbird-stable-ppa has none for 11.10 (but for any other) ...
[18:23] <HelloWorld321> soreau: looks liek you are correct.  it's already the latest version
[18:23] <bekks> m4yer: No one has had the time to build a current version until now.
[18:24] <bekks> m4yer: Be free to do so :)
[18:24] <soreau> HelloWorld321: RE install it
[18:24] <QuikNik> hey guys, I have my 80GB image from my old hard disk onto my new 128GB disk ? but for some reason I can resize the volume
[18:24] <HelloWorld321> soreau: E: Internal Error, No file name for libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:24] <maxxx> bekks, ok i can explain ; plug in a new usb and match over it you will probably know about it
[18:24] <QuikNik> the new space is at the end of the disk, coudl that be why?
[18:25] <QuikNik> trying to resize with gparted on a ubuntu live cd
[18:25] <bekks> maxxx: That doesnt have anything to do with "registering" ;)
[18:25] <soreau> HelloWorld321: That looks like you used a wrong reinstall command
[18:25] <soreau> HelloWorld321: apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:25] <soreau> !info libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:25] <marsfligth> How to list all the Ubuntu 10.10 applications present in 'applications menu' filtering/skiping the Ubuntu/Gnome default ones? I tried with 'ls /usr/share/applications' and 'locate .desktop | sort' but obviously I get all the applications list and not the installed by me only.
[18:26] <maxxx> bekks, register is only the logged in session ..this will work fast but after reboot ..got same principles to applied..
[18:27] <HelloWorld321> soreau: http://pastebin.com/XZqWzuAT
[18:27] <bekks> maxxx: I'm still sorry, I cannot associate "registered" with anything I would do in a logged in session - none the less, lets just go on with support :)
[18:28] <nootilus> hello everyone
[18:28] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Then you have bigger problems than just graphics drivers. What does apt-cache search libgl1-mesa-glx say?
[18:28] <eliphaz> hola
[18:28] <eliphaz> gente
[18:28] <nootilus> who's patient and kind enough to help me with using postfix?
[18:28] <eliphaz> como van
[18:28] <soreau> ! es | eliphaz
[18:30] <th^2> hello all. im trying to launch kismet but command line prompts this: FATAL: SetIFFlags: Unknown interface wlan0: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[18:30] <HelloWorld321> soreau: tx ... http://pastebin.com/QLnY5fEP
[18:30] <pikaciu> bekks: can i use postfix and pine to send mail to others machines on a local network ?
[18:30] <nootilus> pikaciu, hey, hello, I'm trying to do the same :)
[18:30] <bekks> pikaciu: After you configured postfix - yes.
[18:30] <pikaciu> thanx
[18:30] <soreau> HelloWorld321: You need to reinstall the package and apt-get should work
[18:30] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Maybe try aptitude
[18:30] <nootilus> bekks, can you help me with postfix?
[18:31] <pikaciu> nootilus: fom was just an idea :P
[18:31] <soreau> HelloWorld321: And make sure you have the repo enabled
[18:31] <pikaciu> for me
[18:31] <soreau> !info libgl1-mesa-glx
[18:31] <th^2> hello all. im trying to launch kismet but command line gices me this: FATAL: SetIFFlags: Unknown interface wlan0: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[18:31] <soreau> HelloWorld321: main repo, should already be enabled
[18:31] <nimesh> is there any way to click Gwibber notification ?
[18:31] <maxxx> bekks, if could know the module i could; given the script so that he could not have suffered..
[18:31] <bekks> nootilus: Not  without a detailed question.
[18:32] <HelloWorld321> reinstall which package?  libgl1-mesa-glx?
[18:32] <soreau> -_-
[18:32] <pikaciu> nootilus: because i use linpopup but it's not the same
[18:32] <nootilus> bekks, ok, fair enough :) I installed postfix and set it up according to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix the testing seems ok, but now I don't have a clue in how to send a mail from the machine
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Th^2: try: sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:32] <vlt> soreau: No match for “*isl*” in /lib/firmware/
[18:32] <nootilus> bekks, using terminal only
[18:33] <soreau> vlt: k, then try downloading it and placing it there
[18:33] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, hi
[18:33] <th^2> ActionParsnip, no luck :(
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> maxxx: howdy
[18:33] <pikaciu> nootilus: alpine or pine mutt ... no ?
[18:34] <bekks> nootilus: Thats not a question :)
[18:34] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, holiday for me tomorrow
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> th^2: if you have a switch to enable/disable wifi, switch it on
[18:34] <nootilus> bekks, what should I do now, after installed and configured postfix, to send a mail from terminal?
[18:34] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, don't get me wrong my friend
[18:35] <vlt> soreau: Erm, downloading what?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Maxxx: nice. 2 nightshifts and I got 4 days off :-)
[18:35] <pikaciu> nootilus: use command mail
[18:35] <soreau> vlt: Didnt you read the link I gave?
[18:35] <th^2> ActionParsnip, mmm its on... this is a desktop setup. it was working fine like 1h ago :(
[18:35] <vlt> soreau: I did.
[18:35] <nootilus> bekks, pikaciu the idea is to send mail from a script when some event happens (eg a torrent is finished)
[18:35] <soreau> vlt: And did it not tell you where to get the firmware?
[18:36] <bekks> nootilus: Then use the command "mail" :)
[18:36] <pikaciu> nootilus: cool ---
[18:36] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, you really could help..rather comply to me and wasting time
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> th^2: check through dmesg to see what went on then. If nothing jumps out try a reboot
[18:36] <marsfligth> How to list all the 'Gnome 2.x' applications present in 'applications menu' filtering/skiping/excluding the Gnome default ones, like 'Open Office', 'Firefox' etc? I tried with 'ls /usr/share/applications' and 'locate .desktop | sort' but obviously I get all the Gtk/GUI/FE applications list and not the installed by me only. Can you help me Please?
[18:36] <nootilus> bekks, command mail returns it's not installed and suggest heirloom-mailx or mailutils. Should I install the 2nd one?
[18:36] <th^2> ActionParsnip, hmm.. "[ 4923.661121] ath: Unable to reset hardware; reset status -5 (freq 2417 MHz)"
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Maxxx: i never saw a question
[18:37] <vlt> soreau: Ok, I thought that was about kernel development and everything available on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 should be included in the kernel already.
[18:37] <soreau> vlt: Well the kernel module cant load the firmware for one reason or another
[18:37] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, i always say you and iceroot in ubuntu session
[18:38] <markc> hello. i want to put ubuntu on my old box, athlon 500MHz, 2GB of ram. should newest ubuntu run fine on this system?
[18:38] <HelloWorld321> soreau: this is what I get when I try to reinstall http://pastebin.com/ayEdXFuY
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> maxxx: we try :-). Iceroot knows more than me
[18:38] <soreau> vlt: If the card is brand new, you may need a newer kernel than even latest ubuntu provides
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> markc: sure. What GPU?
[18:39] <th^2> wtf? "[ 4923.661121] ath: Unable to reset hardware; reset status -5 (freq 2417 MHz)"
[18:39] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, keep up the good work good bless you too i could be the ubuntu qualified
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Markc: the 2gb ram is a big help :-)
[18:40] <soreau> HelloWorld321: And like I said, that is a sign of an entirely different issue with your package manager and/or packages, not related to the graphics driver issue
[18:40] <HelloWorld321> ActionParsnip: do you know why I can't reinstall the libgl1-mesa-glx package?  http://pastebin.com/ayEdXFuY
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> th^2: any bugs reported?
[18:40] <mimilus> hello
[18:40] <datz_> can someone tell me how we can  play asx video files on MPlayer on Ubuntu 11.4?
[18:40] <soreau> HelloWorld321: You should fix that first and I have no idea why its failing in such a way
[18:40] <vlt> soreau: I downloaded an .arm file and put it in in /lib/firmware.
[18:40] <HelloWorld321> soreau: how can I figure out what it is?
[18:40] <vlt> soreau: Same problem.
[18:40] <soreau> HelloWorld321: Upgrades are commonly problematic and I always recommend a clean install
[18:40] <mimilus> is there a soft like sankore but more light , like a gromit with a little UI ?
[18:40] <HelloWorld321> soreau: clean install it is, then
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> datz_: tried other players?
[18:41] <th^2> ActionParsnip, what?
[18:41] <cby> hi, i have installed virtualbox and run it without gui. But when i conf the rdp for remote desktop. don't listen on the port. This is only on a ubuntu server. on a other linux distribution works fine. Some have a clue why?
[18:41] <vlt> soreau: “… can’t load isl3887usb …”
[18:41] <soreau> vlt: You cant just download random files, it has to be the correct firmware for your chipset
[18:41] <datz_> I try everything
[18:41] <HelloWorld321> and I think I'll install the next version in 6 months, and then go to an LTS-only policy
[18:41] <vlt> soreau: Well it wasn’t that ransom ;-)
[18:41] <vlt> *random
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> th^2: search the bugs online, has anyone got the same issue??
[18:41] <DanS326_home> I consistantly run into issues while using a live USB where it insists on looking for the CD in the drive instead of the USB stick ... any info on fixing this or a better work around than simply telling it that the cd is not a repository so it downloads everything
[18:42] <maxxx> vlt, read the post of the problems and then if have problems..let us know
[18:42] <nootilus> bekks, ok I installed mailutils, I don't know if that was the best to do. Now mail says I can't open my mailbox (local one I guess). What should I do to send a mail?
[18:42] <soreau> vlt: If it is a newer chipset, you may need a newer module provided by a newer kernel
[18:42] <nootilus> bekks, sorry: mail says it can't open my mailbox because I have no rights on it
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DanS326_home: did you MD5 test the ISO you transfered?
[18:43] <markc> ActionParsnip GPU is ati radeon 7500
[18:43] <omicron> buenass
[18:43] <markc> 64 MB
[18:43] <vlt> soreau: It was the listed here: for 2.6.29 kernels and above: USB 2nd generation (ISL3887): isl3887usb
[18:43] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, the always transfer is through torrent not with ftb
[18:43] <vlt> soreau: http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/fw-usb/2.13.25.0.lm87.arm
[18:43] <omicron> necesito ayuda para instalar una aplicacion .exe con wine que no consigo instalar, alguien me podria ayudar??
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Markc: it will use the opensource driver but should run well
[18:44] <soreau> markc: Should work but you might need to use 16bpp for compositing on that older gpu
[18:44] <vlt> !es | omicron
[18:44] <soreau> vlt: 2.6.29 is pretty old.. what does uname -r say?
[18:44] <worrow> non ubuntu question
[18:44] <markc> ok that's good enough, thanks
[18:45] <HelloWorld321> then try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:45] <vlt> soreau: 3.0.0-12-generic
[18:45] <worrow> what program do I need in order to have gadgets on desktop??
[18:45] <worrow> also is AWN any good?
[18:45] <Gentoo64> worrow, on windows?
[18:45] <worrow> no, peppermint
[18:45] <Gentoo64> ? whats that
[18:45] <worrow> peppermint os two
[18:46] <worrow> Lubuntu fork
[18:46] <soreau> vlt: Actually I believe the firmware should be hw dependent and not kernel dependent
[18:46] <soreau> vlt: but I really couldnt tell you. Have you tried different usb ports?
[18:46] <maxxx> vlt, linux work better with older hardware.. you check the hcl with new and configure it
[18:46] <worrow> I want to have a clock gadget like the one in macpuppy desktop.
[18:46] <Gentoo64> no idea
[18:47] <worrow> but for my peppermint os
[18:47] <vlt> maxxx: What is “hcl”?
[18:47] <Gentoo64> use the clock in the panel?
[18:47] <Gentoo64> or is it too hard to see
[18:47] <worrow> well what program would you use for ububtu
[18:47] <worrow> ubuntu
[18:47] <jbuncher> Does anybody know when Firefox 8 will be released through the official Ubuntu repositories?
[18:47] <worrow> I want a flashy one
[18:47] <soreau> vlt: hardware compatibility list, I believe
[18:47] <urlin2u> worrow, look in the application adder what ever it is for widgets
[18:47] <DanS326_home> ActionParsnip: can you give me a link to the md5 listing
[18:47] <cryptodira> i have recently moved to ubuntu from OS/2 and OS X which both offer 'mouse cursor wrap around".... (the mouse cursor appears on the opposite edge of the screen when reaching one edge)..... how is this achieved in ubuntu 10.10??
[18:47] <pikaciu> worrow: why don't you run xclock ? :P
[18:47] <soreau> ! hcl | vlt
[18:47] <Gentoo64> cryptodira, not sure its possible
[18:48] <Gentoo64> i could be wrong
[18:48] <worrow> pikaciu, whats xclock?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[18:48] <maxxx> vlt, hardware compatibility list ; i simply don't want over load the sever by asking him
[18:48] <vlt> soreau: My device is listed in the list of “Supported USB wireless devices”
[18:48] <soreau> vlt: Then you should file a ug report
[18:48] <soreau> bug*
[18:48] <soreau> !bug
[18:48] <pikaciu> worrow: it's only a shell input
[18:48] <worrow> pikaciu, have you seen the new macpup desktop? I like the clock in it
[18:49] <cryptodira> Gentoo64, I would be suprised if it is not possible.... this is a very handy feature... especially for large monitors.
[18:49] <pikaciu> worrow: whatever :P
[18:49] <worrow> also whats the best docker?
[18:49] <Gentoo64> worrow, damn why do you want it to look like mac
[18:49] <Gentoo64> when its linux
[18:49] <worrow> I don't like the taskbar look. I was thinking AWN
[18:49] <Gentoo64> looks tacky as hell
[18:49] <Gentoo64> docky is a mac like dock
[18:50] <worrow> I don't want it to look like mac
[18:50] <Gentoo64> looks exactly the same in fact
[18:50] <Gentoo64> hmm ok
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> worrow: there is no single best dock
[18:50] <worrow> mac doesn't have a gadget clock on desktop
[18:50] <maxxx> Gentoo64, don't troll in ubuntu session thanks
[18:50] <worrow> besides the dock which I would not have look anythin like mac
[18:50] <kaddi> random stupid question: As long as I'm not trying to compile or backtrace something, I do not need the -dbg packages and can uninstall them to gain some space, right?
[18:50] <vlt> soreau: Maybe not too unimportant: “Once you have downloaded the firmware (usually the filename of the firmware downloaded from the sites will result with .arm) You need to rename the file to isl3886pci as per required filename from the site. You then place the file "isl3886pci" into /lib/firmware and then reload the p54pci driver.” ;-)
[18:50] <worrow> ActionParsnip,  have you used AWN
[18:50] <Gentoo64> docky is nice looking
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> worrow: its as intelligent as asking: what is the best colour
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> worrow: I've used a tonne of docks dude
[18:51] <Gentoo64> but if you have windows covering the clock on the desktop, then you cant see the clock, and youd have to look at the panel clock anyway
[18:51] <pikaciu> blue
[18:51] <worrow> Well there are only like 3 or 4 dock apps. Most are unstable. So my question still stands
[18:51] <soreau> vlt: Yes, very important
[18:51] <Gentoo64> pikaciu, i agree blue is the best colour
[18:51] <pikaciu> :P
[18:51] <soreau> vlt: But in your case, its not pci its usb
[18:51] <HelloWorld321> If I'm doing a clean install via ssh without any video driver, but both my CD drive and my USB stick are on the fritz, is it okay to mount the install cd iso and run it through ssh?
[18:51] <worrow> telling me it was a stupid question really doesn't help anyone.  Never a bad question
[18:52] <soreau> vlt: So rename the file you placed in /lib/firmware to the file name its looking for as per dmesg
[18:52] <worrow> is it a stupid question for your child to ask how to tie their shoes?
[18:52] <pikaciu> only a bad answer
[18:52] <kaddi> what do the *-dbg packages do in ubuntu?
[18:52] <StepNjump> Is fslint a good app to find duplicates?
[18:53] <maxxx> kaddi, are you joking with us
[18:53] <pikaciu> debug
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Worrow: no dock is outright best or nobody would use the others are inferior. This is not the case. Each are great, they just excell in different ways
[18:53] <vlt> soreau: Works. Thanks.
[18:53] <kaddi> why?
[18:53] <zykotick9_> StepNjump, i've always like it for that purpouse
[18:53] <soreau> vlt: What works?
[18:53] <vlt> soreau: I got a wlan0 device.
[18:53] <soreau> vlt: Nice! :)
[18:54] <soreau> vlt: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid
[18:54] <vlt> soreau: Already did that ;-)
[18:54] <kaddi> maxxx: nope, I want to know if I can safely remove the installed -dbg packages on my system, without risking to break anything
[18:54] <maxxx> vlt, its only till you reset
[18:54] <office3> ActionParsnip: have you been on since early this morning?
[18:54] <soreau> vlt: Sweet, glad I could help
[18:55] <vlt> maxxx: What is only until I reset?
[18:55] <pikaciu> vlt: it was the firmware ?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Office3: nightshift dude. Slept from 9am Gmt to 4pm
[18:55] <office3> wow good job
[18:55] <vlt> pikaciu: Yes, I downloaded from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54, renamed and put it in to /lib/firmware.
[18:55] <soreau> maxxx: should auto-load the module when he plugs it in
[18:56] <pikaciu> vlt: good
[18:56] <Scunizi> Morning all.. does Chromium have a built in PDF viewer?  I've been reading Chrome does but my only option in Chromium is to download the pdf then view it.
[18:56] <mikeg3> I am running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on a MacBook Pro in a Parallels 7 VM.   Does anyone have ideas/suggestions as to troubleshooting no sound in the VM?
[18:56] <sattu94> #screen
[18:56] <StepNjump> zykotick9 : thanks. I started to run it about 1 hour ago and it's still searching. It only has 30 GB of files. Do you think it's normal?
[18:56] <rumpel> Scunizi, Chrome has, Chromium not (afaik)
[18:56] <soreau> vlt: You could still file a bug report and post the solution so others can benefit from your findings
[18:56] <DanS326_home> so the boot repair tool ran and said it successfully finished and told me to  reboot .. I still get error: out of disk grub rescue>
[18:56] <Gentoo64> Scunizi, no
[18:57] <vlt> What is the tool called to create a wireless connection (as in to choose an AP and enter a password if needed)?
[18:57] <rumpel> Scunizi, Chrome = Chromium + pdf-viewer + flash + ...
[18:57] <Scunizi> rumpel: Gentoo64 so I don't see Chrome in the repos.. do I have to add google's repos for chrome or is there a ppa?
[18:57] <soreau> vlt: And hopefully, they can fix it in ubuntu (but maybe its not included due to legal reasons)
[18:57] <vlt> soreau: I will do that. Which pkg is affected?
[18:57] <Gentoo64> Scunizi, not sure..
[18:57] <pikaciu> network tools
[18:57] <Gentoo64> Scunizi, you might need to add ppa
[18:57] <canthus13> Anyone know why lucid would use massive amounts of CPU for everything? Even GDM routinely hits 20%.. CPU utilization is at 100%, load above 2.0 anytime ANYTHING is actively running. Even moving the mouse causes issues.
[18:57] <soreau> vlt: Create a connection with gnomes nm-applet or do it manually with hostapd
[18:57] <cryptodira> mouse cursor wrap around in 10.10..... solution?   anyone??
[18:57] <Gentoo64> is it relly worth it just for pdf viewer?
[18:57] <Scunizi> Gentoo64: I'll look.. it's sooooo frustrating not being able to open a pdf right in the brower
[18:57] <rumpel> Scunizi, install their deb, it will add the ppa
[18:58] <maxxx> vlt, when ever you re-start for the principles and learn to automate the script..
[18:58] <Scunizi> rumpel: ah .. cool. thanks
[18:58] <soreau> vlt: nm-applet is the wireless icon in your panel. Click on it and create new ap
[18:58] <spacebug-> canthus13: graphic card driver issue maybe?
[18:59] <canthus13> spacebug-: I've tried every video driver.. heck, even sleep 10 is pegging the CPU.
[18:59] <Gentoo64> nvidia?
[18:59] <soreau> vlt: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[18:59] <canthus13> Gentoo64: yup.
[18:59] <Gentoo64> could be that
[18:59] <canthus13> Gentoo64: worked fine witn 9.10
[18:59] <jbuncher> Does anybody know when Firefox 8 will be released through the official Ubuntu repositories?
[18:59] <Gentoo64> nvidia has had so many issues with the prop driver causing cpu issues with a load of programs
[19:00] <Gentoo64> jbuncher, never
[19:00] <canthus13> Gentoo64: Weird that it's so spotty, though.
[19:00] <vlt> maxxx: I didn’t understand your last post.
[19:00] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, why?
[19:00] <canthus13> Gentoo64: I've got 3 other machines with nvidia GPUs that work without a hitch.
[19:00] <Gentoo64> it might not be the nvidia driver
[19:00] <cryptodira> canthus13, what does 'htop' show?? any particular program running high?
[19:00]  * canthus13 has the sneaking suspician that if he installed Crunchbang and then manually installed the nvidia drivers, it would be fine.
[19:01] <canthus13> cryptodira: every program uses abnormally high CPU.
[19:01] <Gentoo64> canthus13, it may not be the driver
[19:01] <Gentoo64> but it has caused issues
[19:01] <Scunizi> Gentoo64: canthus13 I"ve found my old nvidia card and the prop driver to work well on kubuntu but sluggish on unity 11.10.. Maverick was great
[19:01] <canthus13> cryptodira: It's a 2ghz P4... But still, GDM shouldn't be routinely hitting 20%.
[19:01] <Gentoo64> yeah but unity is different
[19:01] <maxxx> vlt, my Friend, this far you should really understand how Linux works and learn scripting ..will be helpful to you in our world
[19:02] <canthus13> update manager runs up to 100% constantly... load bounces between 2 and 3...
[19:02] <canthus13> It's weird.
[19:02] <cryptodira> canthus13, with NOTHING running but the base OS... is cpu still high?
[19:02] <canthus13> cryptodira: Not so much.. but load is.
[19:02] <maxxx> canthus13, that
[19:03] <konam> the ubuntu font sucks
[19:03] <JLuc> hello
[19:03] <Gentoo64> konam: screenshot?
[19:03] <canthus13> cryptodira: Well, not that high. but 15-20%.. which is stupid for an idling system.
[19:03] <konam> and i don't mean fonts on ubuntu, i mean the ubuntu font
[19:03] <maxxx> konam, why is that so tell us you problem with it before you comment so
[19:03] <Gentoo64> konam: dont use it then :s
[19:03] <konam> Gentoo64 thanks for offering the help :) but i meant the ubuntu font
[19:03]  * canthus13 has a 1ghz PIII running Lucid that has no issues. :/
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> konam: don't use it then. Simple
[19:03] <canthus13> weird stuff.
[19:04] <JLuc> I'm using a french langaged ubuntu with pleasure, but is there a way to stick to english for rapidsvn specifically ?
[19:04] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, why do you say FF8 is never coming to the official repos?
[19:04]  * canthus13 is currently (slowly) installing the latest kernel update in hopes that it'll help...
[19:04] <konam> ActionParsnip yeah, i went back to sans, it's weird, i had ubuntu 10.10 on just a few days ago before trying out 11.10 and 11.04 and i don't remember changing the default font...
[19:04] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: because stuff takes ages
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> konam: there's a load of stuff I'm sure other users hate and change but nobody cares and its offtopic here
[19:05] <konam> got it
[19:06] <mikeg3> I am running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on a MacBook Pro in a Parallels 7 VM.   Does anyone have ideas/suggestions as to troubleshooting no sound in the VM?
[19:06] <cryptodira> canthus13, back in the day, i had similar issues with intel chips on os/2.... having moved to amd, i have not seen this sort of problem.... i would look very carefully at ALL the htop output... you may have a 'hung' process.
[19:07] <canthus13> cryptodira: Nah.. I've been watching htop constantly.. (htop is consistently using 10%... go figure. :/)
[19:07] <maxxx> mikeg3, you simply can work around it why to irc; you have all the setting..help you self
[19:07] <vlt> maxxx: Sorry, I simply don’t understand what you’re trying to tell me.
[19:07] <vlt> soreau: Do you?
[19:07] <pisolo> ciao a tutti
[19:07] <vlt> !it | pisolo
[19:08] <vlt> Hello. There seems to be a problem with my nm-applet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743511/  Any idea what could cause this?
[19:08] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, then you don't mean never, you just mean a while, and I'd appreciate it if you actually had information to back up what you say instead of just being a general dick about things.  I don't care about your opinion of how long it takes, I want to know the answer.
[19:08] <soreau> vlt: What are you trying to do now?
[19:08] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: what version are you on now?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: on the ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure there is a command to download and run alsa-info.sh  run it and upload to the server. It will make a useful URL
[19:08] <canthus13> Hmm.. kernel update finished. now to launch runescape (which ran fine in 9.10) and see if it grinds to a halt again.
[19:08] <vlt> soreau: nm-applet doesn’t find *any* devices. Even no wired eth0.
[19:08] <maxxx> vlt, if you re-set, you will have to work again to the script minimize the effort of working again..so learn..that all we do. when the problem is solved
[19:09] <soreau> vlt: Try starting network-manager with sudo service network-manager restart
[19:09] <hujry6> hi is anyone here that can explaind me how blockbuster works?
[19:09] <vlt> maxxx: parsing error
[19:09] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, version 7 on 11.10.  On 11.04 they upgraded through 4 to 5 to 6 to 7, so I'm anticipating something similar on 11.10, though I can't find any evidence of it.
[19:09] <maxxx> vlt, i am not teaching to scripting here..no way it up to you
[19:09] <soreau> vlt: and then restart nm-applet
[19:09] <canthus13> Ew. icedtea. :/
[19:10] <mikeg3> thanx ActionParsnip
[19:10] <konam> is there a command i could use on ubuntu to know if my processor is 64bit capable?
[19:10] <darko> hi, can anyone help me with a problem with a lan printer?. The mistake is that: nactiva - NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED opening remote spool Test Page
[19:10] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: i think they may do. I'm not 100% sure. I think on some versions they didn't update FF though. But FF8 isnt anything special over 7
[19:10] <Gentoo64> its basically the same
[19:10] <vlt> maxxx: What are you talking about?
[19:11] <canthus13> konam: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:11] <maxxx> vlt, i really don't wan't to give the command to shutdown you
[19:11] <canthus13> konam: That'll give you a lot of CPU info, and sometimes will tell you if it's 64 bit directly.
[19:11] <vlt> soreau: Didn’t help.
[19:11] <soreau> vlt: Is NetworkManager running?
[19:12] <konam> canthus13 i think this says it all "address sizes	: 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual" thanks
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> darko: is there a credential for adding the printer
[19:13] <konam> canthus13 i have one of the first core duos so i was dubious.
[19:13] <canthus13> konam: Look it up on Wikipedia.. it'll tell you for sure.
[19:13] <Gentoo64> all the core2duos are 64 bit
[19:13] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, they didn't update Maverick and Lucid, since those shipped with 3.6.x, so that still gets security updates.  I was just wondering as it's been a little while, and I remember the Natty FF updates coming more quickly.
[19:14] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: just add the mozilla ppa if its bothering you
[19:14] <Gentoo64> i have no idea if or when its coming out
[19:14] <darko> yes there are a user and a password
[19:14] <darko> i wrote it but id doesnt work
[19:14] <maxxx> Gentoo64, negative
[19:15] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: but I didnt notice anything different from ff7 to 8
[19:15] <bekks> Gentoo64: Then read the changelog ;)
[19:15] <Gentoo64> i did
[19:15] <Gentoo64> nothing amazing in there
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Darko: what make and model printer? If you run: gksudo gedit   and make a test doc, can it be printed?
[19:16] <darko> hp laserjet 1200 series pcl5
[19:16] <darko> it doestn work
[19:16] <darko> i tried a test page
[19:17] <darko> but i have the same problem
[19:17] <darko> Inactiva - NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED opening remote spool Test Page
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Darko: i'd grab your manual to see what and if credentials are needed.
[19:17] <darko> thanks
[19:18] <TheFuzzball> Can someone point me to an up-to-date setup guide for an L2TP server?
[19:19] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, I prefer to use as few PPAs as possible.  Mostly I want memory improvements and the third-party add-ons disabled by default features, so it's not critical (Adobe reader add-on infuriates me each time)
[19:20] <Gentoo64> adobe reader? wheres that come from
[19:21] <Gentoo64> jbuncher: if you don't want to use ppa, then you will have to wait. i have no idea how long like i said. could be any time..
[19:21] <lun4tic> hi
[19:21] <jbuncher> Ok, thanks.
[19:21] <ai9371> hello how do you make ls --color default way to list?
[19:21] <ai9371> so if i just type ls everyrthin is in color?
[19:22] <lun4tic> does anyone know why Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 randomly disconnects in oneiric 64-bit or if there is a bugfix/workaround for that problem?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ai9371: could make an alias in ~/.bashrc
[19:22] <bekks> ai9371: Define an alias in your /home/user/.bash_profile or something.
[19:22] <maxxx> ai9371, please elaborate
[19:22] <Gentoo64> whats going on with the floodbot?
[19:22] <ai9371> hello
[19:22] <ai9371> i want to make ls-- color
[19:22] <ai9371> if you type ls --color in bash shell it list everything in color
[19:23] <bekks> ai9371: 1119 202231 < bekks> ai9371: Define an alias in your /home/user/.bash_profile or something.
[19:23] <lun4tic> logs say its a cfg80211 problem so i guess its a kernel issue. i found out that its no network-manager problem so installing something like "wicd" does not help
[19:23] <ai9371> ok i have 2 ubutun compouters.. one when i type ls everythung is in color in the other computer i type ls there is no color
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: when it drops, run dmesg| tail   may give clues, also disable ipv6 can help.
[19:23] <Jacks_Depression> !quit
[19:23] <ai9371> i have to type ls --color for the color
[19:24] <bekks> ai9371: Did you actually read what I am answering to you?
[19:24] <ai9371> ls --color
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ai9371: second time
[19:24] <ai9371> you telling me i need to edit the /.bash_profile
[19:24] <ai9371> cant i simple change a setting to say ls --color
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ai9371: add an alias in ~/.bashrc
[19:24] <bekks> That edit IS the simple way.
[19:25] <yeats> ai9371: that is how you change the setting ;-)
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> ai9371:
[19:25] <bekks> Either in ~/.bash_profile or in ~/.bashrc
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> ai9371: ..
[19:25]  * yeats uses ~/.bashrc, but it doesn't matter which
[19:25] <lun4tic> ActionParsnip: how can i disable ipv6?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> ai9371:    alias ls='ls --color'
[19:26] <seawookie> i unplugged my wireless adapter and plugged it back in and now i cant enable wireless. any ideas?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: add the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[19:26] <yeats> what's up with the FloodBots?
[19:27] <maxxx> seawookie, iwlist ...scan
[19:27] <giuseppe_> come funziona questa chat
[19:27] <bb916> seawookie: yes maxxx is correct
[19:27] <yeats> !it | giuseppe_
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: unload and reload the driver module
[19:27] <seawookie> trying now
[19:27] <giuseppe_> sono ritornato indietro di 20 anni
[19:27] <seawookie> says doesnt support scanning network is down
[19:28] <test_compile> Hi I'm running 10.10 and recently I have been experiencing loss of keyboard function at random intervals-any thoughts on where to look to resolve this issue
[19:28] <maxxx> seawookie, so you can scan the wireless
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> ai9371: you will need to run:  source ~/.bashrc   to apply it.
[19:28] <giuseppe_> oh ma che cosa vi dite
[19:28] <pikaciu> giusepppe_: ubuntu.it
[19:28] <giuseppe_> di che cosa state parlando
[19:29] <seawookie> i dont think so...the enable wireless option is greyed out, i cant connect to anything and no networks show up
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> test_compile: does functionality return?
[19:29] <Shaxs> hello everyone
[19:29] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> moin.
[19:29] <test_compile> only after full restart
[19:29] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> I can traverse through the array of virtual desktops.  I like the default keystrokes.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: did the modules help?
[19:29] <maxxx> giuseppe_, english please.
[19:29] <seawookie> what modules?
[19:29] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> new to gnome. how do I traverse between windows?
[19:30] <ai9371> i see it in the bashrc file
[19:30] <ai9371> but it look like it is set up as auto
[19:30] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> toggle between the windows to bring to foreground (with in that virtual desktop).
[19:30] <Shaxs> I have an "internet dvr" and want to sync the contents of where I save my videos to a backup drive. So if I delete a file off the source, I want the same file to be deleted from the backup. Would this be the correct rsync command "rsync –av --delete /homes/user/Videos/tv /media/backupdrive/tv backup"
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: unload the wireless driver module, then reload it. Like i suggested earlier
[19:30] <maxxx> seawookie, can you connect to Internet with the usb attached
[19:31] <seawookie> i tried reloading the rtl8187 and no i cannot...im on a different computer
[19:31] <maxxx> seawookie, modprove rtl8187
[19:31] <maxxx> seawookie, modprobe rtl8187
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: sudo lshw -C network    will show the driver
[19:32] <seawookie> maxxx i tried that no luck :/
[19:32] <maxxx> dmesg | grep rtl8187
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: sudo modprobe -r driver; sleep 2; sudo modprobe driver
[19:32] <lifestream> Trying to use unetbootin from linux, my USB stick is fat32 and is mounted, but unetbootin does not see the USB stick. What am I doing wrong?
[19:33] <seawookie> ill try that
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: replace driver with the module name in lshw
[19:34] <Shaxs> can anyone review my rsync sync command to make sure it is right?
[19:34] <maxxx> ActionParsnip, rtl8187 is default replace will simply don't work
[19:34] <Kieran> I recently did 'do-release-upgrade' and all of sudden my WiFi card doesn't work, ubuntu says its supported. Any ideas of where i can start ?
[19:34] <bekks> lifestream: Unmount it. :)
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> lifestream: does it show in gparted?
[19:34] <moontoise> hi friends, my connection go low speed, how i can list connections?
[19:35] <maxxx> seawookie, did you try dmesg | grep rtl8187
[19:35] <lifestream> bekks it says it must be mounted, but even unmounted it does not show on unetbootin.  and ActionParsnip yes it shows in gparted.
[19:36] <moontoise> How i can list connections with ports?!
[19:36] <giuseppe_> c'e qualcuno che parla in italiano???
[19:36] <escott> !it | giuseppe_
[19:36] <yeats> giuseppe_: digitare '/ join # ubuntu-it'
[19:36] <pikaciu> giusepppe_: go to ubuntu.it
[19:36] <escott> moontoise, netstat
[19:37] <yeats> giuseppe_: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:37] <Kieran> moontoise: For live info, install iftop
[19:37] <pikaciu> giuseppe_ open server - join channel
[19:38] <maxxx> moontoise, please elaborate
[19:38] <HelloWorld321> if I've downloaded the ocelot install iso onto my linux machine, is it possible to boot straight from the iso instead of burning a cd or usb-stick?
[19:38] <bekks> HelloWorld321: If you have grub2 already - yes.
[19:38] <moontoise> TTnx escott :*
[19:38] <seawookie> command dmsg not foung
[19:38] <bekks> seawookie: "dmesg".
[19:38] <ai9371> ok i have alias ls = 'ls --color=auto'
[19:38] <ai9371> but its not working
[19:38] <Guest45384> hi
[19:38] <AndyUbuntu> Hey guys
[19:38] <antoine_roquenti> I am having a kernel panic on my netbook anyone feel like helping me out with it?
[19:39] <seawookie> o ok
[19:39] <moontoise> iftop? ok ok
[19:39] <bekks> ai9371: Omit the whitespaces. alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[19:39] <H264> installing the latest ubuntu, is BTRFS safe enough to use as a file system these days?
[19:39] <maxxx> seawookie, dmesg | grep rtl8187
[19:39] <pyDude> hi guestxxx and andyxxx and everyone ;)
[19:39] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Having a backup - yes :)
[19:39] <seawookie> ok i got a lot of output
[19:40] <AndyUbuntu> gnome shell is great isnt it, you can do so much with it and it is really easy to use. Are there any effects that are similar to compiz that we can use on gnome shell?
[19:40] <antoine_roquenti> Anyone experienced a failure to boot with where the system goes to BusyBox/Kernel panic?
[19:40] <steelrat> anyone on ubuntu 11.04?
[19:40] <maxxx> seawookie, now ping c -3 google.com
[19:40] <antoine_roquenti> I am steelrat
[19:40] <pyDude> antoine you know what does kernle panic means.........damn it you could use it as an exploit.........;)
[19:40] <bekks> antoine_roquenti: Yes, I did. But whats your real question?
[19:40] <Guest45384> I'm trying to add a program to the list which appears if you press tab in the terminal window, how do I do this? Sorry for asking, but not really sure what to search for
[19:41] <xauth> !btrfs | H264
[19:41] <antoine_roquenti> My real question is how do I get it to boot to Ubunu?
[19:41] <antoine_roquenti> Ubuntu, apologies.
[19:41] <steelrat> antoine_roquenti: pls, tell me your system id from smbios-sys-info
[19:41] <HelloWorld321> bekks: I believe that I do have grub2 installed: ii  grub2-common                           1.99-12ubuntu5
[19:41] <antoine_roquenti> Ok one second
[19:41] <AndyUbuntu> There are many extentions that can be used which are great, it would be great of there were a desktop zoom or something like that
[19:41] <antoine_roquenti> Juuuust kidding.
[19:41] <antoine_roquenti> :)
[19:41] <AndyUbuntu> is there anything like that
[19:41] <AndyUbuntu> ?
[19:41] <stabyadad> thinking about virtualizing unbuntu server on my MAC VMware installation
[19:42] <seawookie> unknown hot google.com
[19:42] <seawookie> host
[19:42] <pyDude> go ahead.......sabyxxxxxx
[19:42] <maxxx> seawookie, rtl8187 is not stable with ubuntu.. simply modeprobe it fix the rate it will be fine till the session
[19:42] <antoine_roquenti> bekks when I try to exit the BusyBox shell it goes into a kernel panic and won't do anything else.
[19:42] <worstadmin> I installed dhcp3-server yet I have no init script for dhcpd
[19:42] <bekks> antoine_roquenti: So what did you do before?
[19:43] <stabyadad> Was wondering if anyone has tried this before. I'm a unbuntu newbee
[19:43] <worstadmin> Any suggestions?
[19:43] <pyDude> antonie can you send me the crash report
[19:43] <antoine_roquenti> That's just it, I let my brother borrow my netbook and it came back all screwed up.
[19:43] <antoine_roquenti> So I truly don't know what happened to it.
[19:43] <H264> xauth: thanks
[19:43] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know if there are any decent effects with gnome shell?
[19:43] <seawookie> i modprobed it but how do you fix the rate?
[19:43] <bekks> antoine_roquenti: Then ask him what he did :)
[19:43] <pyDude> probably its not kernel panic anyways
[19:43] <antoine_roquenti> And he swears he didn't drop it.
[19:43] <phunyguy> can anyone tell me how to remove the "Floppy Drive" shortcut in Nautilus and from /media ?  I haven't used a floppy in years and don't even have a drive attached!
[19:44] <lun4tic> I'll be back *with austrian accent* ;-)
[19:44] <pyDude> its just a simple faluts just repair your installation with any live ubuntu via usb
[19:44] <pyDude> ;)
[19:44] <steelrat> anyone on 11.04? pls! Thell me your system id from smbios-sys-info command!
[19:44] <maxxx> seawookie, iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M auto
[19:44] <antoine_roquenti> bekks if you had a similar problem what did you do to solve it?
[19:44] <escott> phunyguy, do you have a /media/floppy folder
[19:44] <phunyguy> escott, yes
[19:44] <bekks> antoine_roquenti: I inserted an install cd and reinstalled the box - all data was in a backup.
[19:44] <phunyguy> and /media/floppy0
[19:44] <pyDude> @andy which version you using?
[19:44] <escott> phunyguy, then remove that folder
[19:44] <worstadmin> I installed dhcp3-server yet I have no init script for dhcpd. Any suggestions or help is appreciated
[19:44] <seawookie> its still saying wireless is disables
[19:44] <bekks> steelrat: why?
[19:45] <maxxx> seawookie, are you in monitor mode
[19:45] <antoine_roquenti> Well if I put the reinstall stuff on a flash drive do you know how I might do it from BusyBox?
[19:45] <seawookie> i dont think so?
[19:45] <phunyguy> escott, shortcut is still in nautilus
[19:45] <escott> phunyguy, check if there is an entry in the /etc/fstab then
[19:46] <pyDude> reboot and just repair the broken dependensies that might be antoine_xxxxxxx
[19:46] <antoine_roquenti> I tried going into the computer settings and having it boot primarily from the flash drive where the installer was but for some reason it wouldn't recognize it.
[19:46] <phunyguy> escott, just realized that.  Its in there
[19:46] <AndyUbuntu> are there any effects for gnome shell?
[19:46] <phunyguy> =D
[19:46] <phunyguy> ...and the entry is still there.
[19:46] <pyDude> andy which version you using
[19:46] <escott> phunyguy, you may need to restart nautilus
[19:46] <antoine_roquenti> Ok pyDude I will try that.
[19:46] <phunyguy> escott, did.
[19:46] <phunyguy> maybe a reboot
[19:47] <pyDude> ;) sure
[19:47] <AndyUbuntu> pyDude i am using the laters version of gnome shell
[19:47] <AndyUbuntu> latest*
[19:47] <antoine_roquenti> Do you know the command for it pyDude?
[19:47] <antoine_roquenti> I am not exactly great with linux yet.
[19:47] <seawookie> maxxx: i dont think so
[19:47] <pyDude> no i forgot that command ,
[19:47] <pyDude> p.s.
[19:47] <antoine_roquenti> Ok I will look it up.
[19:47] <Braber01> odd question but, can I ssh w/ putty from my windwos partiton to my Linux partition? :/
[19:47] <vlt> soreau: NetworkManager is running. It seems as if it was at least responsible for getting a DHCP lease for eth0.
[19:48] <soreau> vlt: What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:48] <maxxx> seawookie, i simply don't know that are you trying to do ..are you trying to sniff..or trying to connect to Internet
[19:48] <pyDude> andy,,,,,,i mean which version of ubuntu ....;)
[19:48] <seawookie> connect
[19:49] <vlt> soreau: Only lo.
[19:49] <seawookie> we did patch for injection tho
[19:49] <xauth> Braber01: Odd question indeed. I don't think partition is what you mean.
[19:49] <pyDude> maxx he is definitely not trying to sniff ;)
[19:49] <yeats> Braber01: no, but you might experiment with this if you want to be able to access your Ubuntu files while logged into windows: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[19:49] <soreau> vlt: not two lines?
[19:49] <phunyguy> escott, it's still there
[19:49] <phunyguy> ><
[19:49] <vlt> soreau: Two lines for lo.
[19:49] <Braber01> yeats: thank you
[19:49] <escott> phunyguy, im not sure then. i would have thought it was one of those two that caused it
[19:50] <pikaciu> sniff is bad  my mum says
[19:50] <soreau> vlt: It should work then. Is nm-applet still reporting interfaces not managed?
[19:50] <vlt> soreau: Yes, nm-applet tells me that NO devices are there (though I have a working eth0 connection).
[19:50] <maxxx> seawookie, come on i can help even you sniff
[19:50] <soreau> vlt: Did you try restarting nm-applet?
[19:51] <seawookie> what?
[19:51] <vlt> soreau: Yes, every new nm-applet says the same.
[19:51] <soreau> vlt: I don't know then
[19:51] <seawookie> im just trying to connect
[19:51] <maxxx> seawookie, ok..can you paste me lsusb -v
[19:51] <soreau> vlt: try rebooting
[19:51] <vlt> soreau: Did you read the error output of my nm-applet?
[19:51] <jasonmchristos> Hey my system seems to have quoit automounting a certain drive can someone explain why this could be, maybe by explaining the ubuntu automount procedure.
[19:51] <soreau> vlt: no
[19:52] <vlt> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743511/
[19:52] <jasonmchristos> The problem is that when I mount it manually it somehow causes changes in the display settings using ubuntu netbook edition.
[19:52] <seawookie> i cant paste
[19:52] <seawookie> idfferent macjine
[19:52] <cryptodira> i have recently moved to ubuntu from OS/2 and OS X which both offer 'mouse cursor wrap around".... (the mouse cursor appears on the opposite edge of the screen when reaching one edge)..... how is this achieved in ubuntu 10.10??
[19:52] <seawookie> machine
[19:52] <chaudhry> hello can some one help me??
[19:53] <Matisse> hi
[19:53] <soreau> vlt: looks like possibly dbus related problem
[19:53] <maxxx> sniffing is not a problem at all..but going further is..:))
[19:53] <soreau> vlt: but I don't think you're restarting nm-applet
[19:53] <xauth> !ask | chaudhry
[19:53] <chaudhry> i have installed xubuntu desktop on my ubuntu now i want completely shift to xubuntu any way?
[19:53] <phunyguy> YAY!  Had to disable the entry in the BIOS.  Thanks escott for your help.
[19:53] <Matisse> i try to use alsa instead of pulse. How can I check if the sound is play only with alsa?
[19:53] <soreau> vlt: Do 'killall nm-applet && nm-applet & disown'
[19:53] <jasonmchristos> If I am going to have to always mount manually ang get my display settings funky I might just want to switch to the standard desktop instead of the netbook display.
[19:54] <yeats> !purexfce | chaudhry
[19:54] <pikaciu> bye
[19:54] <matrixiumn> bye
[19:54] <chaudhry> thanks
[19:55] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, ubuntu has default gnome ..session..not kde
[19:55] <jasonmchristos> maxxx, please read what ive typed and help me
[19:55] <DanS326_home> I keep finding that error: out of disk could be a bios issue ... is that the case even if you can load from live cd and can access and mount the drive?
[19:56] <bekks> DanS326_home: Do you mean "out of disk space"?
[19:56] <Shaxs> does anyone here have rsync experience and can help me with a quick command?
[19:56] <bekks> Shaxs: Dont ask to ask, just ask.
[19:56] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, its high in the sky please can you  elaborate
[19:56] <zsolt> hi there
[19:57] <janie> I'm having a problem getting ZorinOS to use my Broadcom wireless card.
[19:57] <JLuc> I'm using a french langaged ubuntu with pleasure, but is there a way to stick to english for rapidsvn specifically ?
[19:57] <zsolt> could somebody help me?I'd like to stream my screen as a webcam
[19:57] <seawookie> maxxx: what do you need from the command output
[19:57] <Shaxs> I want to sync two sources. If a file is deleted from the original source I want it deleted off the backup. Would this be the correct command: rsync –av --delete /homes/user/Videos/tv /media/backupdrive/tv backup
[19:57] <zsolt> to stream my desktop via skype or amsn
[19:57] <bekks> Shaxs: That command will fail.
[19:58] <Shaxs> okay
[19:58] <jasonmchristos> maxxx, How does the ubuntu usually automount. I did some user deletion and one of the drives would no longer automount upon clicking the icon. So I had to mount it manually.
[19:58] <maxxx> seawookie, what are you really trying to do with alfa wireless..
[19:58] <escott> JLuc, you could try and export an LC variable before running rapidsvn
[19:58] <bekks> Shaxs: There must be a - before av, and the backup at the end must be omitted
[19:58] <seawookie> right now just trying to connect to the internet
[19:58] <escott> jasonmchristos, it should automount as long as (a) the device is not listed in fstab (b) the user is a member of plugdev
[19:58] <seawookie> the pc im using has no built in card
[19:58] <vlt> soreau: I rebooted. Same problem. It doesn’t seem wlan0 related because nm-applet can’t find any devices before plgging in the wireless usb device already.
[19:59] <Shaxs> bekks: what do you mena the "backup at the end"? Thats the new of the dir "tv backup" Should I get rid of the space?
[19:59] <soreau> vlt: Is dbus stuff running?
[19:59] <jasonmchristos> escott, the plugdev sounds like what is going on let me check that. brb
[19:59] <vlt> soreau: How to troubleshoot dbus?
[19:59] <soreau> vlt: service dbus status
[19:59] <bekks> Shaxs: Using whitespaces in directory names enforces the usage of "" to encapsulate to name -or- the usage of escaping the whitespaces.
[20:00] <Shaxs> ill delete the whitespace
[20:00] <vlt> soreau: running. There are some dbus-daemon procs listed in ps.
[20:00] <seawookie> maxxx, just trying to connect to the internet
[20:00] <Shaxs> bekks: so would this be it? "rsync –a –av --delete /homes/jason/Videos/tv /media/backupdrive/tv_backup"
[20:00] <bsmith093> is it possible to compile an installed program back into a deb
[20:00] <soreau> vlt: I don't know why it's failing then
[20:00] <jasonmchristos> escott, brb
[20:01] <bekks> Shaxs: No. Use this: rsync -av --delete /homes/jason/Videos/tv/ /media/backupdrive/tv_backup/
[20:01] <yeats> !packaging | bsmith093
[20:02] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg19t19.htm
[20:02] <soreau> vlt: Which version of ubuntu?
[20:02] <vlt> soreau: current
[20:02] <soreau> vlt: lsb_release -c
[20:02] <maxxx> seawookie, are you trying to connect to console
[20:02] <vlt> soreau: oneiric
[20:02] <seawookie> maxxx, no just trying to get internet access
[20:03] <soreau> vlt: maybe try wicd but not sure if it offers connection sharing
[20:03] <Shaxs> bekks: that is what I had originally
[20:03] <ironfoot495> Hello can someone help me with resolution not supported/ubun tu 11.04?
[20:03] <bekks> Shaxs: And what exactly is wrong with that?
[20:03] <abhinav_singh> should i add alias for commands to ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_aliases i am using ubuntu 11.10
[20:04] <maxxx> seawookie, i know that ubuntu is graphical user interface simply forget Linux is not that way
[20:04] <Shaxs> Bekks: you told me it was wrong
[20:04] <Shaxs> :beeks just confused is all
[20:04] <escott> ironfoot495, you can try to force a resolution with the xrandr command line utility
[20:04] <Shaxs> *bekks
[20:04] <fanderal> Shaxs: you might try 'grsync' a GUI for rsync... when set, will show the cmds for future reference
[20:04] <bekks> Shaxs: Then give us the complete error message.
[20:04] <vlt> soreau: One of the dbus processes is owned by user “103”. /etc/passwd says that’s “messagebus”. Why doesn’t ps say that?
[20:04] <vlt> soreau: Could this be a user/permission problem?
[20:04] <janie> I need help getting ZorinOS to use my Broadcom wireless card
[20:04] <soreau> vlt: It certainly could though not sure what
[20:05] <ironfoot495> I can use my 17" but when I try to use my 37" lcd I get not supported
[20:05] <Shaxs> bekks: I didnt run it yet as I was afraid to accidentlly delete stuff off source before syncing. I was just checking to make sure before pulling the trigger
[20:05] <soreau> vlt: Was nm-applet running by default?
[20:05] <ironfoot495> on bootup???
[20:05] <vlt> soreau: Yes.
[20:05] <mgeary> bah
[20:05] <Shaxs> fanderal: I have it, but im setting up a cron to sync nightly
[20:05] <bekks> Shaxs: Without running it it couldnt produce an error.
[20:05] <seawookie> maxxx, are you saying i should try to connect with terminal?
[20:05] <mgeary> i've got a machine that is responding to pings, but not to ssh or http requests. I'm guessing the memory and/or CPU have somehow been maxed out. Any suggestions before i drive to the colo and do a hard reboot?
[20:05] <fanderal> got it
[20:05] <vlt> soreau: wicd says “rename failed” when trying to run it.
[20:05] <bekks> Shaxs: read "man rsync" and find the -n option.
[20:05] <maxxx> seawookie, hey..wondering..
[20:06] <soreau> vlt: If eth0 doesn't even work with nm-applet in a live session, I'd say file a bug
[20:06] <Shaxs> bekks: yes I know but if it ran and did something I was not intending was my fear. Didnt want to delete file and have no way to recover
[20:06] <Shaxs> yes -n = dry run I know
[20:06] <vlt> soreau: Well, eth0 works. But it’s not listed in nm-applet.
[20:06] <soreau> vlt: Right, it should be thoguh https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[20:06] <soreau> though*
[20:06] <maxxx> seawookie, so what encryption do you have on you router wep/wpa/wpa2
[20:07] <seawookie> maxxx, i think wpa but i cant even see any networks...it wont show any to connect to
[20:07] <DanS326_home> Shaxs: I am getting this http://www.dudek.org/blog/220  but when I boot to live cd I can access the drive
[20:07] <Maverick123> hi guys
[20:07] <vlt> soreau: If I messed something up with file permissions while putting this debootstrapped Ubuntu to that machine … which pkgs could I forece-reinstall to fix dbus related problems?
[20:08] <maxxx> seawookie, if you cannot see you cannot connect
[20:08] <soreau> vlt: I don't even know that reinstalling stuff would help since it could be a config file
[20:08] <seawookie> maxxx, thats what im trying to fix
[20:08] <soreau> !info dbus
[20:08] <maxxx> ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:09] <seawookie> maxxx, i tried, it went through but still wont work
[20:09] <maxxx> i simply don't know if the it is wlan0 or something else
[20:09] <Maverick123> what is the problem ?
[20:10] <cryptodira> mouse cursor wrap around in 10.10..... solution?   anyone??
[20:10] <maxxx> seawookie, lsusb -v please paste the output
[20:11] <seawookie> maxxx, im sry im on another machine because the one thats not working has no internet connection so i cant paste
[20:12] <melvster1> hi all ... is there something special you must do to play ubuntu on a television (with cable)
[20:12] <melvster1> normally in windows you have to hit ctrl+f5
[20:12] <jasonmchristos> escott, Ok checked both A and B no fstab entry user is a desktop user in plug dev but clicking on the drive still allows for no automount what next  ?
[20:12] <soreau> seawookie: You said you installed patched drivers for injection. Perhaps you did not reload the module and it was reloaded when you re-plugged it in (and the modules you installed are faulty)
[20:12] <maxxx> seawookie, see that what i am trying to solve here..
[20:12] <melvster1> but ubuntu ... i dont know ...
[20:12] <escott> jasonmchristos, does it give any error?
[20:12] <jasonmchristos> escott, its the gui so no
[20:13] <seawookie> maxxx, soreau, it was working after the patch but stopped working later
[20:13] <maxxx> seawookie, rtl8187 simply works fine with ubuntu and with other distros you simply have to try the basic commands
[20:13] <escott> jasonmchristos, and the drive is not mounted when you are double clicking
[20:13] <jasonmchristos> escott, usually theres a little circular mount icon with a line and an arrow it simply does not show and does nothing when clicked
[20:13] <jasonmchristos> escott, no it is not
[20:13] <soreau> seawookie: Just because you applied and installed a patched driver doe not mean you reloaded it. The old driver could have still been loaded in memory
[20:14] <maxxx> seawookie, patch was not required only if you would now the grep command
[20:14] <escott> jasonmchristos, you could try running nautilus from a command line and see if you get an error message
[20:14] <jasonmchristos> escott, does the user need sudo ?
[20:14] <seanr> Can anyone take a look at my phpinfo here and tell me why I'd still be getting fatal error: call to undefined function curl_init() even though the phpinfo shows it as installed?  http://www.expertessays4u.com/phpinfo.php
[20:14] <janie> I need help getting ZorinOS to use my Broadcom wireless card
[20:14] <seanr> I am truly stumped.
[20:14] <escott> jasonmchristos, no thats what plugdev is for. pmount should handle the mounting
[20:15] <bekks> janie: What is ZorinOS?
[20:15] <jasonmchristos> escott, running from cli natilis it asks for root password to mount
[20:15] <seawookie> soreau, you are probably right, would i have to redo the patching process?
[20:15] <soreau> seawookie: Do you have a wlan0 interface in iwconfig?
[20:15] <jasonmchristos> escott, so i guess plugdev group is useless in this case ?
[20:15] <jessie1> guys, I know its stupid but I am lost here.. ;) trying to figure this out..  I ran sudo apt-get install plexmediaserver and everything succeded.. how do I start hte server? or does it not have a gui?
[20:15] <maxxx> seawookie, remove the patch..of rtl8187
[20:15] <seawookie> maxxx, how?
[20:15] <seawookie> soreau, yes
[20:15] <escott> jasonmchristos, its now asking you for a root password?
[20:15] <vlt> What can I do when I don’t see the icon of a running nm-applet?
[20:16] <maxxx> how did you install through the apt-get or else where
[20:16] <jasonmchristos> escott, yes when clicking from cli launched nauilis
[20:16] <soreau> seawookie: Does 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid' show ap's?
[20:16] <jessie1> anyone? haha if someone missed my question!
[20:16] <maxxx> !blacklist seawookie
[20:17] <jasonmchristos> escott, same thing from nautilis launched from the desktop
[20:17] <seawookie> soreau, yes
[20:17] <soreau> seawookie: Then it's working. What's the problem?
[20:17] <maxxx> seawookie, can you blacklist the drivers
[20:17] <jasonmchristos> escott, you say that plugdev is supposed to give mount priv to all users in the group even if they do not have sudo ?
[20:17] <soreau> maxxx: He doesn't need to blacklist anything
[20:17] <escott> jasonmchristos, what kind of filesystem is this drive you are trying to mount
[20:17] <jasonmchristos> escott, ext2
[20:17] <vlt> When I start nm-applet the icon of my keyboard layout selector moves one pixel to the left, when I kill the nm-applet process it moves one pixel to the right again.
[20:18] <seawookie> soreau, it says that wireless is disabled when i try to connect...idk its strange
[20:18] <vlt> soreau: ^ this is on 10.04 now.
[20:18] <soreau> seawookie: What tells you that?
[20:18] <jasonmchristos> escott, it would be mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb2 from a cli
[20:18] <seawookie> maxxx, if i do that will the non patched drivers still work?
[20:18] <maxxx> sorry i was dragged more deep...:
[20:18] <jessie1> here it goes again, can someone please help me out ;) simple question
[20:18] <escott> jasonmchristos, so ext2 is different from fat in that the permissions on ext2 matter, whereas for fat there are no permissions. so you may be having problems in that you are trying to mount an fs which has files owned by user (a) under user (b)
[20:18] <seawookie> soreau, the network manager in the tool bar
[20:19] <escott> jessie1, type plex[TAB] to figure out the executable name
[20:19] <janie> jessie1: I can try to help. What's your question?
[20:19] <soreau> seawookie: Try restarting network manager and nm-applet with 'killall nm-applet && sudo service network-manager restart && nm-applet'
[20:19] <maxxx> seawookie, you really don't require to patch rtl8187 drivers as they are legacy only you should know how to keep them stable..during the session.
[20:19] <jessie1> escott:  In terminal? I tried that nothing happens
[20:20] <jasonmchristos> escott, well in that case it should mount and just be unreadable not ask for root pw to mount but i will double check and mont from root and chown, brb
[20:20] <seawookie> soreau, ok thank you i will try that command, im sry i have to go but thanks
[20:20] <seawookie> maxxx, sorry i have to go thanks for the help
[20:21] <maxxx> np try all the command you will fine in all distros
[20:21] <jessie1> directory structure in ubuntu's got me going crazy
[20:23] <jessie1> escott: did you mean in terminal?
[20:23] <jasonmchristos> escott, ok i did a chown on it let me reboot
[20:23] <office3> how do I make a usb that can install both Ubuntu 64 and lubuntu 32?
[20:23] <devish> https sites are not loading in ubuntu any help?
[20:23] <escott> jessie1, yes. check packages.ubuntu.com or dpkg -L plexmedia... to figure out what the files for that server are
[20:23] <devish> using 11.10
[20:23] <Rallias> Does anyone know how to enable ecryptfs _after_ the OS has been installed?
[20:24] <office3> Or would I need two separate usb sticks?
[20:24] <escott> Rallias, don't know how recent this is http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/08/07/create-an-encrypted-private-directory-with-ecryptfs/
[20:25] <usr13_> office3:
[20:25] <usr13_> unetbootin
[20:25] <Rallias> escott yeah, I saw that, but that covers a ~/Private folder rather than the ~ folder...
[20:25] <usr13> office3: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:26] <usr13> devish: Are you sure?  Give an example
[20:26] <jessie1> escott:  alright nothing shows up in packages.ubuntu , but dpkg says its located in /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/
[20:27] <jessie1> htpc@Htpc:~$ start plexmediaserver start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.72" (uid=1000 pid=6119 comm="start plexmediaserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[20:27] <devish> usr13: example?
[20:27] <escott> Rallias, is still roughly how the system works. you have a ~/.Private which gets loop mounted back onto ~. it might be easier to just create a new user and then migrate over
[20:28] <devish> usr13: i cant load facebook, gmail, any mail or secure connection however others are loading fine
[20:28] <jasonmchristos> escott, the user is not authorized to mount media even bieng in plugdev
[20:28] <jasonmchristos> escott, i chowned the whole deal
[20:28] <usr13> devish:  an example _________________
[20:28] <jasonmchristos> escott, I guess plugdev group is useless
[20:29] <devish> usr13: i gave ...least i tried
[20:29] <jasonmchristos> escott, looks like i am just going to have the make the user superuser ?
[20:30] <escott> jasonmchristos, plugdev should work. something is off in your setup. if you want to paste the screenshot of the error, and the output of groups and the output of mount that would help
[20:30] <escott> jasonmchristos, and fstab as well
[20:30] <usr13> devish: https://mail.google.com/mail/
[20:30] <usr13> ?
[20:31] <usr13> devish: Does that one ^^^^ load for you?
[20:31] <Rallias> Does the ubuntu livecd for 11.10 still have troubles mounting like flash drives?
[20:31] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, sometimes the cd vendor of a different kind can have a problem at-times ; my cd-rom only mount sony cd
[20:31] <devish> sign on pazge comes and loadds for verver
[20:33] <jasonmchristos> escott, like ive said there is no error it just asks for root password
[20:33] <bekks> jasonmchristos: There is no root password on Ubuntu.
[20:33] <AleXstX> IMA LI KOGA?
[20:33] <usr13> devish: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #See if proper nameserver is listed.
[20:33] <jasonmchristos> escott, for that reason there is no output of mount
[20:33] <devish> usr13: the "not able to load webpage"
[20:34] <jasonmchristos> bekks, i enabled root the whole point was i didnt want my regular user to be super user, its a bad idea to connect to irc from super user anyway
[20:34] <escott> jasonmchristos, mount will always output all the currently mounted devices.
[20:34] <devish> usr13: i see a thread but not able to look at it
[20:34] <jasonmchristos> maxxx, this has nothing to do with cd's
[20:34] <jasonmchristos> escott, ok well it isnt mounted thats the whole point
[20:34] <devish> usr13: yes as torrent and evry other thing is working
[20:35] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, oh!! i was far behind the current session..simply getting over it..:))
[20:35] <devish> usr13: does https uses any other nameserver?
[20:35] <n00berG00ber> anyone ever had issues changing their login screen in 11.10?
[20:35] <JokesOnYou77> hi all, can someone help me with a compiler error?
[20:36] <pyDude> yeah bro......which version of gcc........
[20:36] <jasonmchristos> escott, problem solved user must be superuser
[20:36] <jasonmchristos> escott, thats what i was trying to avoid
[20:36] <usr13> devish: Or see if you are able to ping the first nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf  Or better still:  nmap -p53 name-server-ip  #The first one on the list, (if there are more than one).
[20:36] <jasonmchristos> escott, apparently plugdev doesnt
[20:36] <jasonmchristos> work on 10.0.3 lts
[20:37] <usr13> devish: NO, https does not use different nameservers, just want to eleminate other problems.
[20:37] <escott> jasonmchristos, you shouldnt need that. and plugdev should work. but unless you give us some more information we cant really help you. if you want to go it alone feel free to look into the manpage for udisks
[20:37] <jasonmchristos> escott, I wouldnt have minded mounting from root but when i did so the files even when chowned would not read
[20:37] <JokesOnYou77> pyDude: Don't know, it's ubuntu 10.10
[20:37] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, your question is random can you simply elaborate what are you really looking for
[20:37] <jasonmchristos> escott, what exactly do you want
[20:37] <usr13> devish: Are you using a proxy server?
[20:37] <devish> usr13: let me try
[20:38] <jasonmchristos> maxxx, its not random what are you a robot , its very detailed wither a you cannot read or b you are a troll
[20:38] <escott> jasonmchristos, your fstab, the output of groups, and the output of mount
[20:38] <jasonmchristos> ive detailed every info there is about the problem
[20:38] <devish> usr13: nope
[20:38] <jasonmchristos> escott, ive already typed that info in here in detail
[20:39] <EuroNerd> I've got a problem:  I'm using a two monitor setup, and when I put an app in fullscreen on one monitor (say, Firefox with F11), and switch focus to some app on the other monitor, the top bar (with clock, off switch, etc) appears on the former and partly obscures the full screen app. Can I prevent this?
[20:39] <usr13> devish: No, what ?
[20:39] <jasonmchristos> fstab does not list the drive the plugdev group is enabled on my regular user and mount does not show it mounted, simply because IT IS NOT MOUNTED
[20:39] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, no need to get upset.. to ask again should not be a problem ..
[20:39] <escott> jasonmchristos, the whole point of pasting things is that a lot of times people don't know what they are looking for, and don't know when something is wrong. if you think you know what you are doing see "man udisks"
[20:39] <n00berG00ber> why won't my login screen change to what I tell it to in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf ?
[20:40] <jasonmchristos> escott, i know all of these three because i clicked desktop user in the users menue and viewed plugdev properties and my regular user was listed
[20:40] <aking1012> has anyone else experienced weirdness in the 12.04 installer for all custom partitioning failing?
[20:40] <jasonmchristos> obviously if my problem is i cannot mount the mount output isnt going to show it mounted
[20:40] <jasonmchristos> if i cant read /dev/sdb2 in nano /etc/fstab i am an idiot
[20:41] <devish> usr13: hosst is up i am inside lan
[20:41] <jasonmchristos> escott, never the less thank you for your help
[20:41] <devish> usr13: whicch is connected to internet
[20:41] <maxxx> jasonmchristos, so you are a administrator.. let me know that
[20:41] <jasonmchristos> escott, you did help me find the cause and give me a lead to something to study the plugdev group
[20:41] <jasonmchristos> escott, thanks again have a good day
[20:42] <usr13> devish: Some networks vary in this respect but usually, that first nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf (and sometimes the only one), will be your gateway router, (gateway routers usually have a caching nameserver running on-board).
[20:42] <JokesOnYou77> How do I restart the GNOME panels?
[20:42] <devish> usr13: I see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353605 but not joined in to the community so can/t see it
[20:42] <escott> JokesOnYou77, what version of gnome?
[20:42] <mobilni2> Hay alll
[20:43] <n00berG00ber> why won't my login screen change to what I tell it to in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf ??? anyone?
[20:43] <usr13> devish: mail.google.com  #where does that take you?
[20:43] <JokesOnYou77> escott: whatever is standard with 10.04
[20:44] <escott> JokesOnYou77, for just the panel "killall gnome-panel && nohup gnome-panel
[20:45] <devish> usr13: yes but that can't be a concern gere as i can load https in other os but not here however i would say that earler i had different connection and ther was  no problem
[20:45] <n00berG00ber> is there a different channel that new guys can go for help?
[20:45] <Myrtti> n00berG00ber: this is it :-)
[20:45] <n00berG00ber> oic
[20:45] <maxxx> JokesOnYou77, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3199082/how-to-restart-gdm-in-ubuntu-without-being-logged-out
[20:45] <usr13> devish: See my pm.
[20:46] <JokesOnYou77> escott: thank you!
[20:46] <devish> usr13: i take me to sign on page but when i try to login the page doesn't load
[20:46] <jasonmchristos> just so everyone knows you shouldnt be logged into irc from a superuser account
[20:47] <usr13> devish: What nameserver are you using?
[20:47] <n00berG00ber> okay once again: (third times a charm) why won't my login screen change to what I point it to in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf?
[20:47] <maxxx> jasonmchhristos what can you do to me ..even i am logged as root
[20:48] <escott> n00berG00ber, have you restarted the lightdm process
[20:48] <johannes_aut> Hey.
[20:48] <usr13> devish: And what error does it give you? (When the login page doesn't load?)
[20:48] <n00berG00ber> multiple times....my login screen is now just black
[20:48] <devish> usr13: i am behind a router so it is 192.168.0.1 for me
[20:48] <Jilly> anyone know an easy way to get ubuntu to detect my display?
[20:48] <EuroNerd> I've got a problem:  I'm using a two monitor setup, and when I put an app in fullscreen on one monitor (say, Firefox with F11), and switch focus to some app on the other monitor, the top bar (with clock, off switch, etc) appears on the former and partly obscures the full screen app. How can I prevent this?
[20:48] <bluberella> hello. I want (autoinstallation) to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get -y -o after the ubuntu-desktop has been installed. But it always tries to ask the gdm/kdm choose question. I also tried debconf-set-selections with ("kdm shared/default-x-display-manager select gdm" and the same for gdm. Any ideas?
[20:49] <usr13> devish: So the first nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf is 192.168.0.1  ?  Is that correct?
[20:49] <n00berG00ber> escott, multiple times....my login screen is now just black
[20:49] <johannes_aut> I would like to install a windows software on a ubuntu server to distribute it to severall domain-clients - it's an single-user account software, which should be used from more than one pc
[20:49] <devish> its not able to fetch data
[20:49] <johannes_aut> i thougt about installing it into a VirtualMachine an connecting to it from the client
[20:49] <johannes_aut> is there a better way?
[20:49] <escott> n00berG00ber, sounds like it doesn't like something in that file
[20:50] <devish> usr13: its not able to fetch data
[20:50] <maxxx> jasonmchristos you might be the moderator in ubuntu .. take care of trolling
[20:50] <usr13> devish:  nmap -p53 192.168.0.1  #What does that tell you?
[20:50] <devish> usr13: no data received in chrome
[20:50] <n00berG00ber> escott, so the default if there is something wrong is to display a black bachground then?
[20:51] <devish> usr13: 53/tcp open
[20:51] <usr13> devish: Ok very good.
[20:51] <escott> n00berG00ber, i dont know but that sounds like a feasible behavior
[20:51] <devish> usr13: does ubuntu open different ports for https
[20:51] <maxxx> why nmap is reveled in the session
[20:52] <n00berG00ber> escott, essentially, at least from my understanding, is the syntax is "background=path_to_picture/picture.jpg"
[20:52] <devish> usr13: so might be when some data is being taken on other port then router does n't get it or viceversa
[20:53] <escott> n00berG00ber, and what is the picture you want to use?
[20:53] <n00berG00ber> escott, I've tried several
[20:53] <escott> n00berG00ber, but what is the path
[20:53] <karma_> hi , i use ubuntu 11.10 , is possible to change the color of text on the folders? thanks
[20:54] <n00berG00ber> escott, /home/username/Pictures/wallpaper
[20:54] <escott> n00berG00ber, do you have an encrypted home directory
[20:54] <TK5791> hey can someone tell me how to disable the login keyring popup on auto login?
[20:54] <usr13> devish: Try Firefox
[20:54] <n00berG00ber> escott, yup....and now that you have said it, it would make sense that it doesn't work.
[20:54] <escott> n00berG00ber, and even that shouldn't matter in either case the lightdm process won't be able to read that file
[20:54] <usr13> devish: firefox mail.google.com
[20:55] <karma_> from black to blue for example
[20:55] <StepNjump> I have an external Hard drive in /media/maxtor. I was doing something and all of a sudden, I got an error message from Samba but it is frozen. I can't press cancel or OK. Even when I try to umount /media/maxtor it tells me that it can't find the device. What should I do to safely remove the extHDD?
[20:55] <n00berG00ber> escott, even if it were unencrypted?
[20:55] <devish> usr13: tried for facebook it says server was reset afetr login page
[20:55] <StepNjump> or reset the samba message?
[20:55] <n00berG00ber> escott, permission issues then?
[20:55] <escott> n00berG00ber, you could adjust the permissions to make it work with an unencrypted
[20:56] <n00berG00ber> escott, where,outside, of home would it be considered kosher to store picture files?
[20:56] <usr13> devish: clear your cache and cookies
[20:56] <devish> usr13: sure
[20:56] <escott> n00berG00ber, /usr/local or /opt
[20:57] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, you could encrypt a usb stick and pt them on there
[20:57] <n00berG00ber> escott, thanks
[20:57] <huoxito> Folks please could anyone tell why Ubuntu 11.10 changed the alt+tab behaviour? If this shortcut shows applications in all workspaces what is the meaning of having workspaces?
[20:57] <n00berG00ber> Gentoo64, o.0  ?
[20:57] <lun4tic> deactivating ipv6 did not help :(
[20:57] <^jt> Graphical Port Forwarder, does anyone know of one? I'm trying to redirect 8080 to 80, iptables isn't working for me and I'm looking for a more userfriendly way to do it.
[20:57] <lun4tic> my wifi still disconnects
[20:58] <escott> !ufw | ^jt
[20:58] <xangua> !ccsm
[20:58] <xangua> huoxito: use compiz setting manager and configure it how you want
[20:58] <devish> usr13: https keeps on loading for long time i think browser tries to load
[20:58] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, i thought you meant a safe place to store them sorry
[20:58] <n00berG00ber> Gentoo64, no prob.
[20:58] <devish> usr13: but does n't happen any thing and finally a error
[20:59] <huoxito> thanks xangua, I tried that once but Im afraid of using cssm on my desktop, last time I used di did a real mess
[20:59] <JasonGriffee> This will sound dumb, but can Ubuntu get spyware?
[20:59] <Gentoo64> JasonGriffee, no
[20:59] <Gentoo64> JasonGriffee, with windows you get viruses and that because you download stuff from wherever
[20:59] <n00berG00ber> JasonGriffee, depends
[21:00] <JasonGriffee> on what?
[21:00] <Myrtti> JasonGriffee: browser extensions, facebook scams etc
[21:00] <^jt> Hmm, would you recommend guarddog or gufw? (from a usability viewpoint)
[21:00] <n00berG00ber> if you have installed something that contains spyware capabilities then yes
[21:01] <huoxito> xangua, I just wonder how could some possibly think that this alt+tab behaviour is nice
[21:01] <TK5791> I have a problem... everytime I boot the OS I get a popup called login keyring... can this be disabled?
[21:01] <Gentoo64> if you manually install everything from source from websites theres still hardly any chance youll get malicious stuff
[21:01] <n00berG00ber> one could even argue that the amount of data-mining that Google is doing would make them almost spyware-ish
[21:01] <JasonGriffee> what about just browsing the web?
[21:01] <danes> hello, how can I get the old panel back? I dont like the new icons and stuff added to 11.10 I want to get the old panel back, is it possible?
[21:01] <n00berG00ber> ever used Chrome?
[21:02] <Gentoo64> JasonGriffee, its not like windows...
[21:02] <JasonGriffee> not really
[21:02] <xangua> danes: if you mean gnome2, is no longer maintained
[21:02] <xangua> !nounity | danes
[21:02] <n00berG00ber> better question: ever opted out of their "statistical analysis"
[21:02] <Gentoo64> whats with all the google paranoia
[21:02] <devish> usr13: can anything be done?
[21:02] <^jt> i don't really mind google spying on me if they keep chrome being so awesome :D
[21:02] <JasonGriffee> Gentoo64, is he just messing with me?
[21:03] <n00berG00ber> JasonGriffee, bottom line you are safer from spyware on linux, but it isn't only because linux is more secure etc. but because of market shares
[21:03] <Gentoo64> i dont think he means to
[21:03] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, no its not
[21:03] <Michi74390> hi! i am trying to watch an embedded quicktime video in chromium. unfortunately the picture is just black. so far i've tried mplayer, totem installing medibuntu, opening the url in vlc (didn't work because of passwort protection)
[21:03] <Gentoo64> you download a windows program... from where?
[21:03] <Gentoo64> not a repo for sure
[21:04] <Gentoo64> linux has less programs, and theyre open source, and they come from repos
[21:04] <danes> :'(    !classic
[21:04] <danes> !classic
[21:04] <Michi74390> can anyone help me with that?
[21:04] <danes> !notunity
[21:04] <n00berG00ber> Gentoo64, agreed, but market share has a big factor into it. The bad guys aren't going to waste time programming something that will reach 2% of users when windows and mac hold far greater share
[21:04] <xangua> Michi74390: did you try to install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra ¿
[21:05] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, no its not that at all
[21:05] <escott> Michi74390, make sure the ubuntu-restricted-extras package is installed
[21:05] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, what about servers: the real targets.. most of them are linux or bsd
[21:05] <Michi74390> xangua: is it in the standard-reps?
[21:05] <xangua> !info chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra | Michi74390
[21:05] <StepNjump> Is there a  way to reset nautilus? I'm trying to get rid of error messages that are locking the display... thanks
[21:05] <Michi74390> i've got restricted-extras
[21:05] <Gentoo64> n00berG00ber, no one bothers to write malicious stuff because it wont have an effect
[21:05] <Myrtti> Gentoo64, n00berG00ber: you are starting to wander to metaphysical
[21:06] <n00berG00ber> Gentoo64, true, but we aren't talking about servers, we are talking about everyday home users that get targeted with spyware
[21:06] <Gentoo64> you dont seem to understand
[21:07] <aking1012> @Gentoo64 I doubt you mean that.  US DoD is a big fan of RHEL.  Even if it's a tiny market share it's high value
[21:07] <Michi74390> ah chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra was not installed
[21:07] <Gentoo64> well the old classic of "because linux has less users than windows, no one bothers wasting time writing malware for it" isnt true
[21:07] <Michi74390> i'm trying that now
[21:07] <n00berG00ber> Gentoo64, is that a lack of your explanation ability? or  am I really just missing something?
[21:07] <aking1012> @Gentoo64 valid
[21:07] <mrbrdomac> how can I blacklist some USB ID so that ubuntu will not take control of it? i have an app that uses it but it says /dev/ttyUSB0 is locked by another program
[21:09] <aking1012> @mrbdomac - I blacklist modules, but that doesn't really help if i understand your situation properly
[21:09] <mrbrdomac> nope that wont help
[21:09] <orated> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu & Windows dual boot system. I got Windows C drive/operating system corrupted. Is there a way to reinstall Windows system affecting only C drive and not the boot loader/MBR ? Or anyway way to restore grub after reinstalling Windows with linux already installed?
[21:09] <mrbrdomac> i think usbhid or something is taking control of it maybe, dunno
[21:09] <xangua> !grub2 | orated to restore grub
[21:10] <Michi74390> hm, still doesn't play :/
[21:11] <samosaphile> Hi. I know this isn't a ubuntu or even linux question, but I really need help. My pc keeps randomly rebooting ( not just in OS, even in BIOS ). At first I thought it was to do with powersupply so I got a new one, (and for a while like a day it was working, but then it started happening again), my cpu/gpu temps are fine. Not sure what else to look at. I've not installed any new drivers or software recently...so I think its a hardw
[21:11] <xangua> samosaphile: then do not
[21:11] <Michi74390> i'm using the totem plugin at the moment
[21:11] <JasonGriffee> is it possible to switch back and forth between unity and gnome3 and have all data on both sides?
[21:12] <Michi74390> any idea xangua?
[21:12] <i-SiS> Hi together, how can i change my wallpapers individual? I have two monitors (2x 1920*1080) but under "System Settings"->"apperance" i can only change both wallpapers together. Is there a better way for dual-wallpapers?
[21:12] <xangua> Michi74390: restart chromium¿
[21:12] <Michi74390> i did that
[21:12] <TK5791> how do I disable login keyring?
[21:12] <escott> i-SiS, it would be easiest to use something like imagemagick or the gimp to create a background file for the two monitors
[21:12] <xangua> Michi74390: the totem plugin is only for mozilla i believe, is called totem-mozilla :P
[21:13] <xangua> Michi74390: well i just don't have idea then, i don't use chromium/chrome
[21:13] <chute> JasonGriffee: I have no problem
[21:13] <Michi74390> nope, it's also for chromium, i've been using it for other formats fro over a year ;)
[21:13] <Michi74390> well it doesn't work in firefox either :(
[21:14] <orated> Thanks xangua.
[21:14] <TK5791> is there no one on here able to offer me a solution to my problem/
[21:14] <TK5791> ?
[21:14] <i-SiS> escott: The wallpaper is not that problem-> "apperace" change the wallpaper for both monitors (but on every monitor appers the same picture), so its not possible for me to add a "longer" pic.
[21:15] <aking1012> @all where to voice an installer bug in beta?
[21:15] <Myrtti> aking1012: launchpad?
[21:15] <Myrtti> aking1012: also: #ubuntu+1
[21:15] <Doodie> I am trying to upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 . when i try with Alt F2 and the methods to update as given in website, nothing is upgraded
[21:16] <Doodie> when i click upgrade in update center, does it download any files?
[21:17] <xangua> Doodie: you can't upgrade 10.04 to 11.10, you would neet to upgrade 10.10 first, then 11.04, then 11.10 ;)
[21:18] <Doodie> xangua, yes sir, i know that, but that simple process does nothing here.
[21:18] <Guest96290> Hi all. How can I find about php/apache, please?
[21:18] <Myrtti> Doodie: If I were you and not in an urgent need of a life-or-death feature anywhere, I'd just hold on to 10.04 and wait until April for the new LTS
[21:18] <Michi74390> does anyone else have any idea why i can't watch these movs in my browser? it's quite important :(
[21:19] <xangua> Doodie: LTS are configured to upgrade only to the next LTS by default, you need to chage it to upgrade to normal releases on Software Sources
[21:19] <Myrtti> Michi74390: do you have any browser plugins installed, IIRC mplayer and vlc both have ones
[21:19] <Doodie> Myrtti, I am upgrading because i heard that 11.10 would support ati radeon graphics. 10.04 gives me errors
[21:19] <Michi74390> i have the totem plugin and vlc plugin installed. vlc plugin is disabled
[21:19] <Myrtti> Doodie: fair enough
[21:20] <Michi74390> before i had the mplayer plugin but that didn't work either
[21:20] <mkanyicy> Guest96290, google
[21:20] <chute> Doodie: you have to update to 10.10, then 11.04, and then 11.10
[21:21] <szal> or reinstall
[21:21] <Doodie> xangua, i quite could not get that. could you please make it more clear?
[21:21] <i-SiS> can someone recommend a third party programm that can change wallpapers for Dual-Screens?
[21:21] <xangua> Doodie: go to Software Center - Edit - Sources
[21:22] <Spyros> i-SiS, nitrogen
[21:22] <Spyros> :D
[21:23] <xangua> i-SiS: diferent walpapers on diferent screens¿ compiz can do that if you are willing to sacrifice not having icons on the desktop
[21:23] <Doodie> xangua, got it. now it shows 10.10. :)
[21:23] <i-SiS> Spyros: thx, i will try
[21:23] <hooman> salam
[21:23] <Michi74390> also there doesn't seem any way to download those videos
[21:23] <xangua> i-SiS: anyways i believe unity doesn't have icons on the desktop already :P am i wrong¿
[21:23] <escott> i-SiS, so nautilus usually draws the root window. you can try and use gconf to get the settings for nautilus the way you want it, or you can disable nautilus drawing the root, and use some other tool to set the background
[21:23] <lun4tic> i hate kernel bugs...
[21:23] <Michi74390> the mov files include a few links and an audio track
[21:23] <madoo> hello evry buddy
[21:24] <lun4tic> October Versions of Ubuntu piss me off...
[21:24] <madoo> i need hellp please
[21:24] <Michi74390> and the links lead to other mov files only a few kb big
[21:24] <^jt> :( i couldn't figure out how to redirect port 80 to 8080 using guarddog
[21:24] <madoo> can i find hellp here
[21:25] <Myrtti> madoo: difficult to know before you actually ask your question
[21:25] <madoo> hello
[21:25] <mdr> :-)
[21:25] <mdr> hello
[21:26] <guntbert> !ask | madoo
[21:27] <madoo> hello eny one here
[21:27] <^jt> :( I give up, how do I redirect port 80 to 8080, e.g. http://localhost will be the same as http://localhost:8080
[21:27] <Myrtti> madoo: please ask your question
[21:27] <escott> ^jt, its a bit unclear what you want to do here. what is the configuration
[21:27] <mdr> see iptables documentation for port redirect
[21:28] <^jt> mdr: I've tried and it doesn't apply the changes
[21:28] <Odaym> can I make a PDF out of several pictures?
[21:29] <^jt> The story: running apache on 8080 since non-root can't bind <1024 I want port 80 to redirect to 8080
[21:29] <escott> Odaym, poppler-utils will have some command line tools for this
[21:29] <Odaym> without having to start a Slideshow project and pasting the pictures there..
[21:29] <escott> ^jt, so what makes you think non-root can redirect ports?
[21:29] <mdr> ok
[21:29] <mdr> you need to create a new chain that redirects and logs
[21:30] <^jt> I know they cant, but that isn't an issue :) it's a development VM so security isn't a huge concern. I just want to be able to run apache without sudo
[21:30] <matrixiumn> silence...
[21:30] <matrixiumn> oh
[21:30] <Odaym> poppler-utils seems to offer the reverse of this
[21:30] <mdr> this will let you see if your rule is being hit
[21:30] <escott> ^jt, make yourself a setuid apache restart script then
[21:31] <matrixiumn> fail
[21:31] <lun4tic> thats not silence.... oh... thats "SILENCE I KILL U!!!" ... ;-)
[21:31] <mdr> why do you just change the port in the apache config?
[21:31] <escott> Odaym, ahhh.. the perhaps imagemagick could convert each image to pdf and then you could bind them togeteher with poppler
[21:31] <^jt> i could, but i've gone through the effort of compiling amp from scratch into the home dir so that everything can be run as the user
[21:32] <bluberella> ^jt tcpconnect might help you
[21:33] <mdr> struggling to see the issue here.
[21:33] <^jt> well to bind apache to 80 id have to sudo apachectl
[21:34] <mdr> ah I see
[21:34] <mdr> what happens if you switch off selinux?
[21:34] <^jt> :( just feels nice having amp self contained in the user folder and being able to run everything without sudo
[21:34] <^jt> "what's that?"
[21:34] <i-SiS> xangua: no, it had no icons until i create some
[21:35] <mdr> its enforces certain permissions for certain programs google it
[21:35] <guidov> so yesterday morning i boot my laptop, kernel panic. multiple reboots, problem persists. i go to another house, boot laptop, all ok (also after multiple reboots). just got back home, kernel panic.
[21:35] <mdr> switch off firewall first
[21:35] <guidov> i'm guessing that it has something to do with the wifi networks around my house then. does this problem sound familiar to anyone?
[21:35] <mdr> try
[21:36] <mdr> then switch off selinux and try agin, this way you isolate the issue
[21:36] <mdr> guidov, you disk ok?
[21:37] <guidov> yes disk is ok, 0 bad blocks, but it wouldn't make sense anyway because it works fine at one house and at another it doesn't
[21:37] <^jt> Hmm, I'm a noob but totally disabling SELinux sounds heavy-handed?
[21:37] <mdr> guidov disable wireless
[21:38] <guidov> mdr, can i disable wireless from the boot screen?
[21:38] <guidov> because obviously i can't into a working system now to change it
[21:38] <guidov> +boot
[21:38] <Gentoo64> ^jt: ubuntu dont use selinux
[21:39] <GOMI> hi , am trying to install something in java but it doesnt work ....i get errors ?
[21:39] <mdr> guidov google blacklisting your wireless driver at boot.
[21:39] <^jt> I got the 80->8080 stuff working with iptables yesterday after a lot of messing around, then I cleared it all because I wasn't sure what actually made it work and I'm trying to do this for educational purposes
[21:39] <xangua> GOMI: is the error that you don't have openjdk or sun/oracle java installed¿
[21:39] <^jt> Gotta start somewhere : )
[21:39] <mdr> iptables is hard
[21:40] <mdr> gotta go, dead battery.
[21:40] <GOMI> xangua, Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: jar    <--- this is one of it
[21:40] <^jt> yea I googled what I wanted it to do, it's a common problem as tomcat runs on 8080
[21:41] <^jt> got it working but, as I said I wasn't sure how I got it to work and that's not a good way to learn
[21:41] <GOMI> xangua,  i made it exutuble ...i have restricted extras installed ..
[21:42] <GOMI> xangua, The program 'jar' can be found in the following packages:
[21:42] <GOMI>  * openjdk-6-jdk
[21:42] <GOMI>  * fastjar
[21:42] <GOMI>  * gcj-4.4-jdk
[21:42] <GOMI>  * gcj-4.5-jdk
[21:42] <FloodBot1> GOMI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <GOMI> xangua,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/743653/     this is all
[21:44] <GOMI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/743653/       a JAVA problem someone any idea , let me hear some options if you got
[21:46] <Untitled_only> hey does anyone know how to detect if you have a keylogger
[21:47] <pierre_> Guys, I like nautilus a lot but I am afraid I might mistakenly press delete on a folder by accident! Would there be a way to prevent that from happening?
[21:47] <GOMI> how do i know if java is installed on my ubuntu
[21:49] <Untitled_only> check in you software center under history
[21:49] <Untitled_only> GOMI
[21:49] <bekks> pierre_: Dont delete anything :)
[21:49] <pierre_> ;)
[21:49] <bekks> Untitled_only: What if he used apt-get to install it?
[21:50] <bekks> GOMI: dpkg -l | grep jdk and dpkg -l | grep jre
[21:52] <matrixiumn> h
[21:52] <matrixiumn> oops
[21:53] <Untitled_only> sorry, I was on the ##linux channel. bekks is telling you the correct commands to check installed packages
[21:54] <Untitled_only> -_-
[21:57] <Untitled_only> nobody needs help today
[21:58] <bekks> No one asked a question...
[21:58] <Myrtti> relish the lull
[21:58] <Myrtti> don't jinx it
[21:59] <Pessimism> I HAVE A QUESTION
[21:59] <matrixiumn> ...
[21:59] <Pessimism> Kidding.
[21:59] <Pessimism> I do have one, though.
[21:59] <matrixiumn> lol
[21:59] <matrixiumn> ...
[21:59] <Pessimism> Would anyone know why my YubiKey does not get recognized in Ubuntu?
[21:59]  * Shadowcat smacks Pessimism with a couple of Win7 USB Sticks
[22:05] <madsy> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I want to use mount -B to mount an external drive under a ftp user directory. But Ubuntu mounts it as my currently logged in user, with 700 as the access permission. How can I give the ftp user access?
[22:06] <madsy> An additional mount is needed because the ftp user is jailed to its home directory
[22:11] <lun4tic> does anyone have problems with facebookchat too?
[22:11] <lun4tic> messages dont seem to reach me when i have the website running anywhere
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: the text chat works fine here ni Precise on Chromium daily build
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> *in
[22:11] <ericcc> I'm using 11.10 with classic Gnome desktop. How do I add the "System" menu? All I have is "Applications" and "Places".
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> lun4tic: does it happen in all browsers?
[22:12] <guntbert> ericcc: on the right side (under your name) you should see it
[22:13] <seawookie> lun4tic, i have the same problem...have to refresh the page to get any messages
[22:13] <ericcc> guntbert, thanks. I see it now
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: which browsers have you tested?
[22:14] <noroot> test
[22:15] <noroot> Evening all
[22:15] <seawookie> ActionParsnip, firefox and chrome
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> hi noroot
[22:15] <noroot> Evening ActionParsnip
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: does it happen as a new ubuntu user?
[22:16] <seawookie> ActionParsnip: it happens on multiple computers with all OS
[22:17] <seawookie> i think its just a fb server prob
[22:17] <madoo> hello
[22:17] <madoo> can i find here hellp
[22:17] <noroot> Good evening madoo
[22:17] <madoo> good evning
[22:18] <madoo> can i say my prubleam
[22:18] <seawookie> madoo: go ahead
[22:19] <|Long|> is there away to run gparted on ssh?
[22:19] <bekks> |Long|: sure, just use ssh -X
[22:19] <zykotick9_> |Long|, you could try ssh with X forwarding, or use the cli version parted
[22:19] <madoo> iam uose net from acsiss point wirless  but my net its so slow but with my friend in anuther pc its fast
[22:20] <|Long|> bekks, thaks
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: ssh -X -C user@host
[22:20] <madoo> can you tell me a thats ceause he have win 7 and i have ubuntu
[22:20] <madoo> or ?
[22:20] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: -C compresses stuff, you can then run the app (may need sudo)
[22:21] <|Long|> alright will try that
[22:22] <lesshaste>  when I do wget http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/provider/files/980447/urn/108922.pdf I get a web page but when I open the same url in firefox I get the pdf
[22:22] <lesshaste> how can I get whet to get the pdf?
[22:22] <lesshaste> wget
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> madoo: try: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> madoo: then close all browsers and then reopen, is it faster?
[22:22] <madoo> what you mean
[22:23] <lesshaste> i am guessing the key line in the wget output is HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> madoo: it will change your DNS servers to Googles and may help. yuor DNS you are getting via DHCP may be sow in Linux
[22:23] <madoo> can you tell me what you mean do you want me typ thats in trminal
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> madoo: you can easily undo the change as its not permanent
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> madoo: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> madoo: that's the command
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> madoo: all as on
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> *one
[22:24] <madoo> send me what i can typ plz
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> madoo: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> madoo: I've sent it 3 times now
[22:25] <madoo> i did in tirmnal naw
[22:26] <apriori_> how do i change my default file manager?
[22:26] <seawookie> ActionParsnip: what does that command do exactly to madoo?
[22:26] <madoo>  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[22:26] <madoo> i did thats
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: it will make /etc/resolv.conf read: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[22:26] <madoo> its right
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> madoo: ok, try the web, is it faster?
[22:27] <seawookie> ActionParsnip: does that have something to do with dns ?
[22:27] <madoo> yep its better naw thankiss
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> seawookie: yeah it's google's public DNS
[22:27] <madoo> can i ask you some 1 more plz
[22:27] <|Long|> how can i ssh -X with different port other then 22 default?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> madoo: ok that change isn't permanent you need to add it n network manager to make it last between reboots
[22:28] <bekks> |Long|: ssh -p youport...
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: ssh -X -p port user@host
[22:28] <madoo> i have ubuntu 10.10
[22:28] <madoo> what you mean
[22:28] <madoo> tell me please
[22:28] <|Long|> ActionParsnip,bekks thanks
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> madoo: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[22:28] <tucemiux_l> what application are we supposed to use now to control volume?  gnome-alsa-mixer doesnt work anymore now that I upgraded :-(
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> madoo: gove me time, i'm not that fast, jeez
[22:28] <tompa> Hello, i wonder if you guys know any good videos that shows the difference of KDE, Gnome 2/3 and xfce. The functionality and the look/graphics. Thank you.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tompa: youtube will have tonnes
[22:29] <madoo> okey
[22:29] <madoo> i am in this sit you send to me naw
[22:29] <nathansuchy> how does irc work
[22:30] <tucemiux_l> i smell a troll o.O
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> madoo: the guide tells you how to setup the DNS so it sticks between reboots. The file is generated by network manager, so without config it will go back to what it wa before after you reboot
[22:31] <|Long|> one more problem. i try to run sudo gparted on -X -c -P then i got this
[22:31] <madsy> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I want to use mount -B to mount an external drive under a ftp user directory. But Ubuntu mounts it as my currently logged in user, with 700 as the access permission. How can I give the ftp user access? Remounting binded access point with a new group, owner and permissions have no effect
[22:31] <|Long|> (gpartedbin:4025): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> nathansuchy: work in what sense?
[22:31] <madoo> oh god i cant setup thats by my silfe
[22:31] <madoo> but i will try
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> madoo: the guide is step by step, just read the linux guide bit
[22:31] <zykotick9_> |Long|, are you sshing from a linux/unix client (ie. do you have Xorg running locally)?
[22:32] <bekks> |Long|: you have to use gksu instead of sudo.
[22:32] <rowla> lesshaste: May I help you with your problem?
[22:32] <madoo> i try naw
[22:32] <zykotick9_> !gksu | |Long|
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: what OS is the system you are connecting from?
[22:32]  * ActionParsnip bets windows
[22:32] <madoo> plz tell me where ar you from
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> madoo: UK
[22:32] <psycho_oreos> !offtopic | madoo
[22:33] <lesshaste> rowla: yes please :)
[22:33] <|Long|> zykotic, thanks
[22:33] <madoo> i love uk i am egyption
[22:33] <luca> ciao
[22:33] <Sensorium> spanish?
[22:33] <zykotick9_> !tab > |Long|
[22:33] <bekks> !es | Sensorium
[22:33] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, iam connecting to ubuntu 11.10
[22:33] <rowla> Italian.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: yes but FROM what OS?
[22:33] <zykotick9_> |Long|, and what are you connecting from?
[22:33] <Sensorium> gracias
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: what OS is the ssh client?
[22:34] <|Long|> from xp ssh secure shell terminal
[22:34] <guntbert> !it | rowla
[22:34] <bekks> |Long|: You have to have an X server running on your XP first.
[22:34] <rowla> lesshaste: So you want to get that PDF file from Terminal. Is that right?
[22:34] <zykotick9_> ActionParsnip, your crystal ball seems to be working today (re ssh client) ;)
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: then you need to install and run xming, Windows doesn't have an X server to stick the apps to
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9_: can smell it a mile away
[22:34] <lesshaste> rowla: exactly
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: xming will give an X server for your windows OS and the command will work
[22:35] <madoo> its mean my ip naw its 8.8.8.8
[22:35] <madoo> or 8.8.8.4
[22:35] <rowla> lesshaste: Why? Use G.U.I, use firefox.
[22:36] <lesshaste> rowla: it's fora  script
[22:36] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, thanks let me d/l and install
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> madoo: no, your DNS servers will be 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[22:36] <CluelessWin7usr> Is there a way to install Ubuntu to my laptop's 2nd hard drive's 3rd partion? But instead of using grub to boot windows7 or ubuntu can I start ubuntu though my F12 boot menu?
[22:36] <guntbert> lesshaste: I get the pdf here (with wget)
[22:37] <madoo> aha
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> madoo: they are the servers used to translate names of websites to IP addresses which are used in networking
[22:37] <madoo> but its have some thing i have to typ in tirmnal
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> madoo: the ones you have are slow so you are making the OS use some different ones and overriding the ones you normally get via DHCP
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> madoo: no, read the guide and you will see how to set the DNS servers in network manager
[22:38] <guntbert> lesshaste: what web page do you get instead?
[22:38] <madoo> i do naw
[22:38] <lesshaste> guntbert: I want the pdf file
[22:39] <rowla> lesshaste: Are you sure you can download it from Firefox?
[22:39] <madoo> abut the way its first time i am uose ubuntu 10.10 but its very nice
[22:39] <guntbert> lesshaste: I know, and I do get it here, so i asked what web page you get instead
[22:39] <LABcrab> i'm TIRED of Ubuntu freezing for the 4th time when i click on "Try Ubuntu"!
[22:39] <nuno> hello there people
[22:40] <lesshaste> guntbert: oh I see.. not sure.. just seems to be the normal school inspection web page
[22:40] <madoo> i am uose gnome there is speake abut debian
[22:40] <nuno> @ Labcrab i faced the same problems using Wubi
[22:40] <LABcrab> nuno: What do you do?
[22:41] <nuno> i'm just an Ubuntu and Linux noob
[22:41] <nuno> i work
[22:41] <nuno> in a restaurant
[22:41] <guntbert> lesshaste: you are right, it *is* just a HTML page, under the name of the promised pdf
[22:41] <lesshaste> guntbert: try opening it in firefox
[22:41] <lesshaste> guntbert: then it's just a pdf file
[22:42] <CluelessWin7usr> How do I install ubuntu to a 2nd hard drive but not have it take over the booting (grub) for Windows but use Window's boot list/menu (msconfig) instead.
[22:42] <rowla> lesshaste: Try this: wget -r -l1 -A.pdf http://www.example.com/example/example.pdf
[22:43] <nuno> i would love to learn more about Ubuntu/Linux :)
[22:43] <lesshaste> rowla: have you tried it on my url?
[22:43] <rowla> lesshaste: Send link.
[22:43] <LABcrab> Hey people, why does the computer keep freezing when i click on "Try ubuntu"?
[22:43] <MnFisher> i have problem, their is an app that will not finish dpkg called sagan (0.1.9-1)
[22:44] <lesshaste> rowla: http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/provider/files/980447/urn/108922.pdf
[22:44] <MnFisher> dpkg never finishes
[22:44] <guntbert> lesshaste: I just tried it with chromium, they require you to click on a redirection link that seems not to be the final target,...
[22:45] <rowla> LABCrab: Are you using a LiveCD?
[22:45] <lesshaste> guntbert: ok
[22:45] <madoo> my net get slow agin
[22:45] <rowla> lesshaste: Try this: wget -r -l1 -A.pdf http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/provider/files/980447/urn/108922.pdf
[22:45] <LABcrab> rowla: Yes!
[22:46] <kalamajo> I have a complete newb question, my system menu is missing when i installed ubuntu
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> madoo: are you using debain now?
[22:46] <AndyUbuntu> hey everyone
[22:46] <madoo> hello
[22:46] <LABcrab> i've already restarted so many times!  This is frustrating!  All i want to do is enable a Windows administrator account!
[22:46] <rowla> LABCrab: What version of Ubuntu are you trying?
[22:47] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone have the alternative tab gnome shell extension working?
[22:47] <LABcrab> rowla: The latest.
[22:47] <madoo> no i am uose gnome 10.10
[22:47] <LABcrab> rowla: 11.10
[22:47] <lesshaste> rowla: I am not sure what that did :)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> madoo: its the same then, use network manager in the panel
[22:47] <lesshaste> rowla: do you see a valid pdf file downloaded?
[22:47] <szal> LABcrab: if the task is a rescue operation, there are probably better Linuxen for that than *buntu live CDs ^^
[22:47] <madoo> haw
[22:48] <misafir> hi all, is there any hard drive recovery tool you can recommend? unfortunately, i cant access to my ntfs external drive
[22:48] <LABcrab> szal: It has to be a small CD.  i can't download a lot.
[22:48] <AndyUbuntu> i am not able to get the alternative tab extension working for some reason
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> madoo: the guide I gave tells you, just scroll down to the Linux section
[22:48] <guntbert> kalamajo: on the right side under your name
 <lesshaste>: I'm working from Windows XP, Google Chrome. Inmediately I get a confirmation dialog box for download.
[22:48] <AndyUbuntu> cant see it in the gnome tweak tool
[22:48] <lesshaste> thanks all.. got to go now
[22:48] <kalamajo> its not there
[22:48] <DrPoO> hi, I have set up a upnp server using mediatomb, what upnp client can I use to connect to it?
[22:48] <madoo> okey
[22:49] <kalamajo> guntbert its not there
[22:49] <guntbert> rowla: same with chromium here
[22:49] <rowla> LABcrab: Hmm, I have some bad news for you.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> DrPoO: vlc is one option
[22:49] <DrPoO> ah
[22:49] <szal> LABcrab: I'd recommend grml, which is a full-size CD of almost 700 MB
[22:49] <LABcrab> rowla: What are those?
[22:49] <AndyUbuntu> I have looked online to get the gnome shell extension and cant get it working
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> DrPoO: http://nwlinux.com/stream-videos-from-mediatomb-to-vlc-using-ubuntu/
[22:50] <AndyUbuntu> canb someone offer some help?
[22:50] <guntbert> kalamajo: indeed, I forgot to ask you what flavor you are using
[22:50] <LABcrab> Why does it let me Try Ubuntu sometimes but not other times?
[22:50] <kalamajo> ubuntu 11.1
[22:50] <rowla> LABcrab: Versions of Ubuntu since 10.10 are very unstable.
[22:50] <szal> kalamajo: there is no 11.1
[22:50] <reisio> heh
[22:50] <LABcrab> rowla: Why!?
[22:51] <kalamajo> guntbert: 11.10
[22:51] <CluelessWin7usr> How do I not install grub when I install ubuntu I don't want it taking over the booting of my first hard drive (windows).
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> rowla: I'm on Precise here and its solid
[22:51] <rowla> LABcrab: That's out of my reach because I'm not a developer.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> rowla: which desktops have you tried?
[22:51] <reisio> CluelessWin7usr: why not?
[22:51] <szal> CluelessWin7usr: in that case, just disconnect the Windows HDD during installation
[22:52] <kalamajo> guntbert: Under My Name > switch user account, my name, online accounts, user accounts
[22:52] <guntbert> kalamajo: yes, but: the standard one with the launcher on the left side or the one with the panel at the top?
[22:52] <LABcrab> How do i mount hard drives using just the terminal?
[22:52] <reisio> LABcrab: that all depends
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> LABcrab: yuo don't mount drives, you mount the partitions
[22:52] <CarlFK> LABcrab: sudo mount <something> <somewhere>
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> !mount | LABcrab
[22:52] <reisio> LABcrab: 'mount' doesn't say they're already mounted?
[22:52] <LABcrab> ActionParsnip: How is that dones?
[22:52] <nuno> i faced the same problems mate, i installed in the hard drive, because, it won't work on trial and on wubi btw
[22:52] <kalamajo> guntbert: launcher on the left side
[22:52] <rowla> ActionParsnip: Where did you get that send me the link and I'll try it.
[22:53] <ahoneybun> How do I use Launchpad and Bazaar to help a project?
[22:53] <nuno> LABcrab: it kept freezing
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> rowla: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/   Its the next LTS
[22:53] <LABcrab> How do i find out what to mount?
[22:53] <CarlFK> CluelessWin7usr: grub can boot windows, windows boot loader can not boot linux, so you kinda need to let grub take over
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> rowla: its not officially stable, but if you want to try it, fill your boots.
[22:53] <ericcc> How do you permanently add a new display resolution in Ubuntu 11.10 (this does not work anymore: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html)
[22:54] <nuno> LABcrab: since i managed to install it in the HD it keeps running smoothly
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> LABcrab: sudo fdisk -l    will list available partitions
[22:54] <guntbert> kalamajo: ok, on the ricgt side (beside your name) are "gears", click there
[22:54] <CluelessWin7usr> Can grub stay on the 2nd hard drive and I start the 2nd hard drive threw my laptops F12 boot menu?
[22:54] <rowla> ActionParsnip: Oh Thanks! I hope it's gonna work.
[22:54] <LABcrab> nuno: Yeah, too bad the computer won't boot from USB.
[22:54] <CluelessWin7usr> I don't want Ubuntu touching ANYTHING on my Windows hard drive.
[22:54] <kalamajo> guntbert: yeah.. but the system menu isn't there
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> rowla: which desktops have you tried in your installs since Maverick?
[22:54] <nuno> LABcrab: go to your BIOS and change the boot order
[22:55] <nuno> LABcrab: push your USB HDD to the top of the list
[22:56] <CluelessWin7usr> Why not press F12 during boot and pick USB?
[22:56] <nuno> i dunno, i installed it that way, the only way that really worked
[22:57] <reisio> LABcrab: what is it you want to mount and why
[22:57] <kalamajo> guntbert: sudo apt-get install gnome-menus
[22:57] <manco> hi all
[22:57] <kalamajo> guntbert: i thought that would work
[22:57] <reisio> manco: hi
[22:58] <CarlFK> CluelessWin7usr: that works too, but means you need to do it a bunch of times instead of once
[22:58] <rowla> ActionParsnip: I tried 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10. They don't work pretty well for me.
[22:58] <nuno> LABcrab: have you formatted your USB and the partition where you'll install ubuntu correctly? or you just have tried out Wubi?
[22:58] <LABcrab> reisio: Already done, thanks.  Editing Windows files.
[22:58] <guntbert> kalamajo: I thought is is there by default, just wanted to show you how it looks
[22:58] <LABcrab> nuno: It's a P4 MB.
[22:58] <reisio> aaaaaahhhhh
[22:58] <manco> hi reisio, im needing a small help.. on sharing an internet connection through wifi on ubuntu 11.10
[22:59] <pe49> ciaooo
[22:59] <reisio> manco: do you have a wireless router?
[22:59] <kalamajo> guntbert: i thought so too
[22:59] <nuno> LABcrab: That's all i can help because, i'm still a noob @ Ubuntu and what i know i learned myself
[23:00] <kalamajo> guntbert: and I cannot right click the panel?
[23:00] <kalamajo> guntbert: hrmmmp
[23:00] <nuno> LABcrab: i hope i've helped you, ggod luck, and btw Ubuntu rules, you won't regret it
[23:00] <manco> reisio: nope, im connected though a wireless 3g modem, and trying to share that connection through my wirelless card
[23:00] <reisio> manco: most wireless cards probably aren't setup for that
[23:01] <guntbert> kalamajo: yeah the panel is only for notifications nowadays...
[23:01] <reisio> manco: did you mean you want to run a network _cable_ from one computer to the other?  Because that you can do
[23:01] <reisio> manco: also with a USB cable, if necessary
[23:02] <madoo> i dont undearstand
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> rowla: no, which desktops? Gnome, KDE, XFCE?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> rowla: not the release
[23:02] <CarlFK> manco: you want 2 laptops hooked to each other via wifi, right?   like:...
[23:02] <tompa> how does it come that ubuntu have such bad system setting options? As videos have shown it was much more to change in previous versions and in Linux Mint as well. Is there anyway to get that back/get as linux mint, and do anyone of u know the reason why (just curious)? :) thank you
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> rowla: I bet you just used Gnome didn't you...
[23:03] <rowla> ActionParsnip: Gnome.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> rowla: any others?
[23:03] <CarlFK> manco:   Internet -- phone --usb--laptopA --wifi-- laptopB
[23:03] <manco> yes, i need it to be via wifi like this:    internet --> [modem 3G] ubuntu [wifi card] --> windows XP
[23:03] <manco> CarlFK,
[23:03] <rowla> ActionParsnip: No.
[23:03] <manco> reisio
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> rowla: thought maybe it was Gnome at fault, not the release
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> rowla: I've used KDE and LXDE and had zero issues
[23:03] <guntbert> kalamajo: it *should* look like http://imagebin.org/184820
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> rowla: maybe you could try them
[23:04] <rowla> ActionParsnip: It's possible.
[23:04] <manco> CarlFK, yes, that would be it.. i mean, i do have a 3g modem, and i tried the connection with another device (phone) just to check the connection was active, and it is
[23:04] <kalamajo> guntbert: oh ok
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> rowla: you can't badmouth a whole release credibly without exploring it a lot, like trying differnt desktops as just a basic thing to try
[23:04] <CarlFK> manco: so you are making A's wifi card into an AP, which is tricky, depends on your card. (I think.. wait.. maybe AdHoc...)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> rowla: you may just have issues running gnome, which is not the whole release, it's just one desktop environment
[23:05] <Slartibart> What should I look for if I want to change the *button* theme in oneiric (Unity)? I've only found themes that seem to change icons or windows so far..
[23:05] <jan247> hi guys. need help. when running virt-manager on fluxbox, it runs ok. however, when I run remotely via ssh forwarding, it spits out an error saying no dbus session. any hints?
[23:05] <niftylettuce> latest kernel breaks virtualbox https://gist.github.com/c3757346855a766b9cc6
[23:05] <jan247> *ssh X forwarding
[23:05] <rowla> ActionParsnip: I should try other desktops.
[23:05] <manco> CarlFK, i do have a injection capable wifi card.. it should work if i can set it up correctly.. :P
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> rowla: You find a lot of people who dropped back to Natty because of unity haven't even thought of trying a different desktop and keeping the newer libs and such which make stuff work nice
[23:07] <LABcrab> How do you save the chntpw registry edits?
[23:07] <CarlFK> manco: I did it a few years ago, but would have to google up how...  sorry, that's about all I have
[23:07] <manco> is there a diference between adhoc and ap CarlFK ?
[23:07] <CarlFK> manco: I do have whats needed to share it with wired eathernet, which you could plug into an AP ... do you have a wireless router ?
[23:08] <niftylettuce> latest kernel of 10.04 LTS doesn't have kernel support for virtualbox http://i.imgur.com/l6Eko.png
[23:08] <manco> ah.. yes, but i only have 1 straigh though cable here.. :S CarlFK
[23:08] <CarlFK> manco: I know there are 2 terms: AP and AdHoc - guessing they mean different tings  :)
[23:09] <niftylettuce> here is err output https://gist.github.com/0b629285f66f8572ab50
[23:09] <rowla> ActionParsnip: I prefer 9.10 or 10.04
[23:09] <piero> Which is the most trusted ppa to install sun-java6 or 7 in 11.10? Thanks
[23:10] <manco> lol, yeah it should be.. :D, thanks anyway CarlFK
[23:11] <CarlFK> manco: if you power up the wifi AP, can the win box connect to it? (I don't see why not, but need to check)
[23:12] <jan247> hi guys. how bout this one. any ideas: "Unable to create /home/jvliwanag/.dbus/session-bus"
[23:12] <manco> CarlFK, i dont really know how to do that.. and just in case, xp is just next to me
[23:14] <CarlFK> manco: plug in the AP. xp should say "i see wifi" .. but this is a win thing that is pretty OT here.  and makes me grumpy.
[23:14] <mongy> I want to have chromium load into the preload cache like it does on my other machine, bu it does not on this one.  How can I do this?
[23:14] <manco> lol, ok, ill try
[23:15] <reisio> manco: sorry, CarlFK sort you out?
[23:15] <tompa> how does it come that ubuntu have such bad system setting options? As videos have shown it was much more to change in previous versions and in Linux Mint as well. Is there anyway to get that back/get as linux mint, and do anyone of u know the reason why (just curious)? :) thank you
[23:16] <manco> it doesn't seems to work.. im looking on how to set up the wifi card as an AP
[23:16] <stri-der> whatup
[23:16] <Myrtti> tompa: gnome2 vs. gnome3
[23:16] <stri-der> gnome3
[23:16] <Myrtti> tompa: that's the main reason.
[23:16] <guntbert> tompa: most of those were gnome decisions
[23:17] <spacebug-> what is the difference between "eject" en "safely remove drive"? Eject is unmount I think, but the other?
[23:17] <tompa> oh... wierd decision :/
[23:17] <tompa> if i want to change stuff as i could in gnome 2 how do i do then?
[23:17] <tompa> do i have to get gnome 2 or can i install some "addon" ?
[23:18] <Johndoooe> anyone have any suggestions as to why items i have in etc/init.d/* aren't starting with ubuntu bootup?
[23:18] <guntbert> spacebug-: "safely..." powers it down too
[23:18] <Myrtti> Johndoooe: because the system is using upstart?
[23:19] <Johndoooe> is that default in 11.10? upstart?
[23:19] <spacebug-> guntbert: ah ok. tnx
[23:20] <tcarrondo> hi! I need some help
[23:20] <tcarrondo> Is there any UCK alternative to ubuntu server ISO files?
[23:21] <nu1> hello, anyone knows if there is an audio app to compare and play music with similar beats?
[23:21] <nu1> or a music player
[23:21] <s5s> I am running ubuntu 10.10. Do you think I will successfully update to 11.10? I've never managed to successfully update from one Ubuntu version to another - always something crashes
[23:22] <s5s> nu1: Matlab?
[23:22] <rowla> nu1: Try VLC.
[23:22] <rowla> s5s: I'll recommend you to make a fresh install, never upgrade.
[23:23] <zus> hello, how do i fix, this "Err http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release"
[23:23] <RidDrib> Hello
[23:23] <RidDrib> I'm new
[23:24] <Johndoooe> Myrtti: any more guidance?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> zus: what is the next line?
[23:24] <reisio> RidDrib: hi
[23:25] <zus> the  next line  is blank, then  Ign http://archive.getdeb.net oneiric-getdeb InRelease
[23:25] <s5s> rowla: problem is I have so much configurations that I don't feel like setting up again. Also software libraries that I need for development etc. ...
[23:25] <reisio> nu1: last.fm
[23:25] <Johndoooe> can anyone help me figure out why items in /etc/init.d don't start at boot?
[23:25] <reisio> Johndoooe: they won't unless you tell them to
[23:25] <nu1> risio, but I want an application to play the songs  in my pc
[23:25] <reisio> Johndoooe: update-rc.d scriptNameHere defaults
[23:26] <Johndoooe> yeah ive done that
[23:26] <zus> hi ActionParsnip  i had to walk away last night cos the  gpg error were still occurring even though i did the fixes...
[23:26] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> hi
[23:26] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> I can copy a dvd via dd if='/dev/sr0' of='foo.iso' correct ?
[23:26] <Johndoooe> indicates successful reisio..but the items do not start
[23:26] <reisio> nu1: I don't know, look into things that mention 'scrobbler' or 'scrobbling' or last.fm support
[23:26] <Johndoooe> however if i start them manually with /etc/init.d/itemname start
[23:26] <RidDrib> I install Ubuntu Server 11.04 today , but I dont't have GUI
[23:26] <Johndoooe> it works fine
[23:26] <s5s> nu1: what do you want the app to tell you? How would you quantify how similar (or different) two beats are?
[23:26] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: yes, but there are frequently better ways
[23:26] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: is it a data DVD?
[23:27] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> reisio: I dont know.
[23:27] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> no it'
[23:27] <reisio> Johndoooe: server --status-all will tell you the status, after boot
[23:27] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> no it's a movie.
[23:27] <rowla> s5s: Use FL Studio. For Windows. If you want more information, ask me.
[23:27] <reisio> Johndoooe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[23:27] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> reisio: I want to test my foo.iso how Do I play it.  all the players epic fail.
[23:27] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: you want a 1:1 copy of the DVD, or do you just want a copy of the feature?
[23:28] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> 1:1 copy shal suffice.
[23:28] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: mplayer -dvd-device path/to/foo.iso dvd://
[23:28] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> reisio:  that failed.
[23:28] <s5s> nu1: The easiest way for you is to inspect the spectrum by hand. However, bear in mind that what you're trying to do is pretty much Digital Signal Processing which involves a lot of maths and best way is to use Octave/Matlab. I do this regularly (not with music) but music is an audio signal
[23:28] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> or dd failed.
[23:29] <Johndoooe> reisio: i get errors -  19-Nov-2011 15:28:33.9599: P2449.7f206aeea740@computername rserpoolsocket.c:354 doRegistration() 19-Nov-2011 15:28:33.9601: Error: (Re-)Registration failed: no registrar available
[23:29] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: did either give an error?
[23:29] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: usually pretty telling
[23:29] <zus> ActionParsnip,  any suggestions on how to fix it?
[23:29] <stercor> How do I get the color wheel in the terminal profile settings all by itself?
[23:29] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> dd didnt' give an error
[23:29] <reisio> Johndoooe: for what script?
[23:29] <s5s> rowla: I think you meant nu1
[23:29] <reisio> stercor: all by itself?
[23:29] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> mpalyer said, libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
[23:29] <AndyUbuntu> I am wondering if there has been a fix for this issue yet
[23:30] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: did you ever install the DVD playback "restricted" stuff?
[23:30] <RidDrib> I install Ubuntu Server 11.04 today , but I dont't have GUI
[23:30] <AndyUbuntu> i am trying to get alternate-tab- extension working
[23:30] <rowla> s5s: Oh! That! Sorry.
[23:30] <reisio> RidDrib: ...and you want one?
[23:30] <Johndoooe> reisio: that was server --status-all
[23:30] <AndyUbuntu> and it keeps crashing
[23:30] <stercor> reisio: It's a handy tool that I'd like to use outside of the terminal profile.
[23:30] <rowla> nu1: Use FL Studio. For Windows. If you want more information, ask me.
[23:30] <reisio> Johndoooe: does it output anything else?
[23:30] <RidDrib> Yes please
[23:30] <reisio> stercor: ah
[23:30] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> reisio: how do I do that?  Got a link ?
[23:30] <reisio> stercor: short of examining the source, I'd ask #xfce
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> zus: can you run:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a   and pastebin the output please
[23:30] <Johndoooe> reisio: just poolhandle, runtime limit, etc.
[23:31] <stercor> reisio: Thanks.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> zus: makes things more coherent
[23:31] <AndyUbuntu> anyone here have the alternate tabe extension working?
[23:31] <AndyUbuntu> :p
[23:31] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[23:31] <AndyUbuntu> tab*
[23:31] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: if that doesn't make it work, your dd image probably failed, would want to use another method, of which there are many
[23:31] <zus> ActionParsnip,  one sec
[23:32] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> reisio: but your one liner failed on /dev/dvd too
[23:32] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> and I know the dvd is fine.  I just watched it.
[23:32] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: k, then you probably haven't yet gotten DVD/restricted stuff setup
[23:32] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> I'll try k3b
[23:32] <stri-der> LOAD -e zeus.pl
[23:32] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: just read that link I gave
[23:32] <AndyUbuntu> gnome-shell-extensions-alternate-tab anyone have this extension working?
[23:32] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> yeah I have  libdvdcss2
[23:32] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: if you want a 1:1 backup, 'dvdbackup' is pretty good, but dd is fine, too, often (sometimes you'd have to use ddrescue)
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> MaryF\cknPop\ns: how is a DVD/CD burning software going to help watch a DVD?
[23:33] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: what I frequently do is mplayer dvd:// -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.vob, just to get the feature (the longest track)
[23:33] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> ActionParsnip: no to make the iso.
[23:33] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: and then sometimes I'll transcode that into a better/more modern format
[23:33] <AndyUbuntu> I would take that as a no :p
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> reisio: you can use dd to make a 1:1 copy
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> wrong target
[23:33] <kalamajo> I'm trying to get a wnda3100v2 Netgear wifi dongle to work on ubuntu 11.10, I installed the drivers that should work with it. Under "Wireless Network Drivers" it says the hardware is present after i installed the driver, (but the screen did freeze up and I had to do it twice), Shouldnt the wifi icon show up in the top right now?
[23:33] <reisio> MaryF\cknPop\ns: you have to run some command even if you have it, check the link I gave
[23:33] <nu1> rowla, is FL Studio available for ubuntu? or something similar?
[23:33] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> oh
[23:33] <MaryF\cknPop\ns> ok thanks
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> MaryF\cknPop\ns: dd may work, or k9copy which is dead but still in the repos
[23:34] <reisio> nu1: lmms
[23:34] <AndyUbuntu> gnome-shell-extensions-alternate-tab anyone have this extension working?
[23:34] <reisio> didn't know Ubuntu was even redistributing extensions for GNOME 3 yet
[23:34] <nu1> reisio, does it have a GUI?
[23:35] <RidDrib> How can install GUI in ubuntu server
[23:35] <RidDrib> ?
[23:35] <reisio> nu1: yes :D
[23:35] <kalamajo> ok im just going to try to change drivers
[23:35] <bastidrazor> RidDrib: install ubuntu-desktop
[23:35] <BrixSat> how do i make something like "ls *.xml | grep "ola" > save file name here
[23:35] <reisio> nu1: I'm not exactly sure how you'd make an fl studio clone without a GUI
[23:35] <AndyUbuntu> reisio ubuntu is redistributing extensions?
[23:35] <zus> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.com/BTXgw7BD
[23:35] <reisio> AndyUbuntu: I was saying I hadn't heard that they were yet
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> RidDrib: if you wanted a desktop OS, why didn't you just install the desktop OS?
[23:36] <AndyUbuntu> reisio oh right ok
[23:36] <RidDrib> Thank You
[23:36] <reisio> RidDrib: you understand that the GUI doesn't really help you administer the server software, right?  It will mostly only be useful for what you'd use a desktop for
[23:36] <RidDrib> I'will back later
[23:36] <RidDrib> exit
[23:36] <AndyUbuntu> reisio that particular extension just does not work and cant find a fix
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> RidDrib: why didn't you install the desktop. You have gained nothing doing it the way you have
[23:36] <julian_c> RidDrib: seconding ubuntu-desktop. Also, I'd recommend setting up something like VNC (secured, of course) for remote GUI access if it's necessary.
[23:36] <BrixSat> how do i copy a file  to a the place im in if i find the word ola "ls *.xml | grep ola | save the file here :S
[23:36] <AndyUbuntu> all the other extentions work flawlessly
[23:36] <reisio> RidDrib: do you want a machine that works as both a server and a desktop, or a GUI frontend for managing the server?
[23:37] <julian_c> (not quite like RDP in the M$ world, but serviceable)
[23:37] <reisio> BrixSat: cp $(ls *.xml | grep ola) path/to/elsewhere/
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> zus: http://pastebin.com/dtJbgchg
[23:38] <piero> Hi! I'm using gnome-shell on 11.10. My problem is: While my window-manager uses white as background, the menubar and other gtk3 items on my programs are black. Thats horrible. How can the window-manager or gtk theme background? thanks
[23:38] <BrixSat> reisio:  can i do someting like "ls *.xml | grep "ola" > save here the file name
[23:38] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for all the assistance :)
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> zus: you forgot to add the keys for the ppa
[23:38] <bastidrazor> reisio: BrixSat why are you listing the xml files? just cp *.xml /path/to/folder
[23:38] <gabspeck> # Appears as ANNA.
[23:39] <reisio> BrixSat: what's wrong with what I gave you?
[23:39] <AndyUbuntu> always a great place to get support :s
[23:39] <zus> ActionParsnip,  for the  kxstudio? no i have already did them,  and also with that gpg  error command....
[23:39] <BrixSat> bastidrazor:  that is just an example in grep  i call  someting more complex to convert the content of the files using an app that makes echo to console
[23:39] <bastidrazor> BrixSat: cp *ola*.xml /path/to/folder
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> zus: do the commands import new keys, they will say 'unchanged' if not
[23:40] <reisio> BrixSat: should probably talk to #bash
[23:41] <BrixSat> no :( im not making my print bastidrazor  reisio  i have this "ls res/layout/*.xml | java -jar AXMLPrinter2.jar" that outputs to console but i would like to know if i can get in a second or in this case a third pipe the name used in the first pipe
[23:41] <zus> ActionParsnip,   whats the command for that? ive done  sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 for my keys already
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> zus: run each command one after the other, it should import
[23:42] <staykov> hey I am trying to compile libflashsupport-jack but it seems it needs videodev.h which is not part of the kernel headers on maverick
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> zus: the keys arent essential, just stops the OS moaning about unauthorised packages
[23:42] <reisio> BrixSat: VAR=`some command`; or VAR=$(some command), I think
[23:42] <reisio> BrixSat: then you can re-use "$VAR" as you like
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> !find videodev.h
[23:42] <BrixSat> :) Thanks
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> staykov: install libv4l-dev
[23:42] <staykov> excellent thank you
[23:42] <zus> ActionParsnip,  this is i have done that command for all the missing keys, and still they error
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> zus: the virtualbox gives a command to import it's key
[23:43] <zus> ActionParsnip,   i already been to #kxstudio and been thruogh it with them as well,
[23:44] <zus> and  why is the ubuntu extras  giving an error?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> zus: there is no GPG key to authorise the packages, they can still be installed just fine
[23:45] <zus> so there is no fix, just deal with the  missing  gpg keys
[23:46] <ironfoot495> Hi is ther someone who can help me figure out how to get the 1366x768 resolution to be seen on my machine?
[23:46] <reisio> what's the problem?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> zus: not sure man, what PPAs did you add?
[23:46] <|Long|> is there a cmd show me a list on un mount drives? from ssh screen?
[23:46] <reisio> ironfoot495: what's your graphics device?
[23:46] <zus> kxstudios and  get deb.
[23:46] <ironfoot495> on board MSI 880GM
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> |Long|: sudo fdisk -l; echo; mount     will show what can be mounted and what is mounted in the second block
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: did you install the nvidia-current package?
[23:47] <|Long|> ActionParsnip, thanks alot
[23:47] <tompa> Im reading around for another "interface" such as gnome 2,3 kde, xfce but when i see videos about it Im starting to not understand the differnce between a OS distro and desktop enviroments, so what is the difference? :S
[23:47] <rowla_reconnect> Well, gotta go.
[23:47] <rowla_reconnect> Thanks, and have anice day/night.
[23:47] <reisio> tompa: a desktop environment is the sum of all the utilities you use in a graphical system
[23:48] <ironfoot495>  ActionParsnip: when I install nvidia my machinw does not boot up?
[23:48] <reisio> tompa: many desktop environments are assembled and redistributed by single entities, including GNOME, KDE, Xfce, etc.
[23:48] <reisio> tompa: an operating system is the basic system required to get things done, technically not requiring a GUI
[23:48] <reisio> tompa: a distro is a specific distribution (or redistributed set of packages or install media) of an operating system, with or without a desktop environment
[23:48] <ironfoot495>  ActionParsnip:can you look at my lspci and tell me what I need to do?
[23:48] <lubuntu1986> when is the next *buntu release gonna be?
[23:48] <reisio> tompa: more at http://en.wikipedia.org/
[23:49] <reisio> lubuntu1986: 11.10, for example, means Oct. 2011
[23:49] <ironfoot495>  reisio: can you?
[23:49] <spacebug-> lubuntu1986: 12.04 (march next year)
[23:49] <reisio> they've deviated little from the 04 and 11 release schedule
[23:49] <reisio> ironfoot495: can I... what?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> zus: when you added the getdeb, did you use their .deb file to add it?
[23:50] <usr13> lubuntu1986: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:50] <tompa> reisio: so in Ubuntu 11.10 : The OS is Unix, the distro is Ubuntu 11.10 with the pre installed desktop enviroment gnome 3 + unity? right?
[23:50] <zus> hmm i dont  remember, how ever i typically and have before done it in the commandline
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> lubuntu1986: 12.04 is the next version. have a guess
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> tompa: the OS is linux :)
[23:51] <usr13> tompa: YOu can use what ever desktop you want.
[23:51] <ironfoot495> can you tell me if there is a way to look at my lspci and fix my problem?
[23:51] <tompa> Actionparsnip oh :) what is unix then? :P
[23:51] <usr13> tompa: ... but, by default, it comes with unity
[23:52] <tompa> usr13 if i change to xfce, what is left of ubuntu 11.10 then?
[23:52] <reisio> tompa: yes that's right
[23:52] <spacebug-> GNU/Linux
[23:52] <Johndoooe> anyone that can give me the default content of the file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/Upstart.conf in 11.10?
[23:52] <reisio> tompa: though some people will give you face for calling it Unix
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> tompa: its what linux is based on, the web will tell you more than I can
[23:52] <ironfoot495> I've tried very hard to find something that work by google but not as of yet. Really need some help.
[23:52] <Johndoooe> or tell me how to regenerate it? /etc/dbus-1/system.d/Upstart.conf
[23:53] <usr13> tompa: Unix is a computer operating system originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs
[23:53] <reisio> tompa: at which point you should roll your eyes and say "fine Linux if you like"
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: install the nvidia-current package, if you used the hardware drivers app then disable the driver you  installed
[23:53] <reisio> tompa: see you've upset usr13 by calling it Unix :p
[23:53] <ironfoot495> I can boot up on a smaller 17" lcd screen but not on my 37"
[23:53] <spacebug-> Johndoooe: http://pastebin.com/ffF3f7JN
[23:53] <reisio> it is Unix, of course, but as I said people frequently freak out if you call it that and not Linux
[23:54] <zus> i think somw how its the error  on ubuntu extras mucking things  up....
[23:54] <usr13> tompa: See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux  &  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[23:54] <Johndoooe> thx spacebug
[23:54] <ironfoot495> when I use that I can't boot up?
[23:54] <tompa> reisio: haha, Im sorry, but as i said. what is left of ubuntu 11.10 if i change desktop enviroment?
[23:54] <glados> hi
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: once you get the nvidia-current installed we can then attach the bigger screen in a dual monitor setup, then when that kicks in we can disconnect the smaller one if you wish
[23:55] <usr13> reisio: They don't freak out, they just correct you.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> tompa: if you change DE, then thats al that changes. Its still oneiric but your desktop will look different
[23:55] <ironfoot495> ok I'll follow your instruction
[23:55] <usr13> tompa: The basic difference in the various Linux Distributions is the package management systems.
[23:56] <ironfoot495> installing wo
[23:56] <zus> its not get debsan typically my  problem with get deb is thier servers are always down
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> zus: you could disable the repo in software centre to test
[23:57] <usr13> tompa: Ubuntu (rightfully so) claims to have the most user-friendly package management system.
[23:57] <zus> ActionParsnip,  brb,  doesnt  hurt to try.
[23:57] <tompa> usr13 okey then i get it. Ubuntu is using apt?
[23:57] <giuseppe_> ciao
[23:57] <usr13> yes
[23:58] <ironfoot495> actionparsnip: I have to restart
[23:58] <usr13> apt with front-ends:  Synaptic Package Manager and the Software Centre.
[23:58] <ironfoot495> ok
[23:58] <bluberella> is there a list containing all updates sorted by time in www (for natty?)? I just found this for security updates.
[23:58] <tompa> okey, thank you for helping me understand all the confusion :)
[23:59] <usr13> NP
[23:59] <tompa> and im gonna read some about unix vs linux ;)
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> or use apt-fast for badass apt-getting?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> :)
[23:59] <Doodie> i am trying to install driver for my Radeon HD on ubuntu but cannot do. FGLRX doesnot work. FOSS xserver-ati does no effect. I cant change the screen resolution. please help
[23:59] <oy1r> ubuntu 10.04 networking does not work, wired and wireless.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Doodie: i'd read /var/log/Xorg.0.log    for clues