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| orogor | hi here | 09:51 |
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| orogor | i have some issue with my X11 sessions since upgrading to last ubuntu | 09:51 |
| orogor | i don t have any app-menu or taskbar or unity menu | 09:51 |
| orogor | and starting a kde session does the same thing and i have nautillus as my desktop | 09:52 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: "Last ubuntu"=11.10 or 12.04 (which is in alpha) | 09:55 |
| orogor | 11.10 | 09:58 |
| orogor | actually i restarted gdm via commandline to try to pick up another session, but maybe this didnt worked as expected | 09:58 |
| orogor | Ampelbein: gdm logon doesn t look like the login manager i saw first dunno if that makes a difference | 10:01 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: The standard login manager nowadays is lightdm | 10:01 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: Any errors logged in ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/lightdm/*.log ? | 10:03 |
| orogor | there s lot of debug insid e, i can t see the error | 10:07 |
| orogor | new session to use is unbuntu ? | 10:07 |
| orogor | i got like 6-7 sessions to choose from | 10:08 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: ubuntu should be unity. | 10:08 |
| orogor | and btw now picking up kde session works , but ubuntu session leave me with no unity launcher | 10:08 |
| orogor | i have no unity in the menu | 10:08 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: You can report a bug with 'ubuntu-bug lightdm' and describe your issue. | 10:08 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: No, I meant the entry "Ubuntu" should start a Unity session | 10:09 |
| orogor | haaa | 10:09 |
| orogor | i try hard to like unity , but it really doesn t like me , maybe we re not destined to be together | 10:10 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' ;-) | 10:12 |
| orogor | i prefer plain simple gnome | 10:13 |
| orogor | gnome with enlightement as i was 10 years ago was the most perfect combination, but everyone has gone mad since | 10:13 |
| Ampelbein | orogor: Yeah, all those shiny app-like desktops don't appeal to me either. But we are getting offtopic. | 10:14 |
| orogor | yup | 10:14 |
| orogor | i i choose a gnome session it doesn t looks at all like my previous ubuntu session | 10:15 |
| orogor | and i can t right click on gnome element to configure them either | 10:15 |
| orogor | hummm trying xfce i ll see if i like it | 10:16 |
| cdbs | Anyone around? | 15:31 |
| cdbs | ~taowa4 on launchpad has made a team ~badge-collectors on Launchpad and has added it to my ~papercuts-ninja | 15:31 |
| cdbs | I asked him to remove it since it was not the right thing to do (my team is for papercuts enthusiasts) | 15:32 |
| cdbs | he didn't respond, I removed the team myself and removed his admin status (he made himself admin since he's the member of the owner team mysteriously) | 15:32 |
| cdbs | So, is anyone from the design team around who can kick him off from ~papercutters which will help me fix the issue? | 15:33 |
| cdbs | he has made himself as admin again and he has changed team joining policy, he seems like a troll | 15:34 |
| cdbs | not the right thing to ask on a sunday morning :) | 15:36 |
| Ampelbein | cdbs: might be better to ask in #launchpad? | 15:39 |
| cdbs | hmm | 15:39 |
| cdbs | even fewer chances | 15:39 |
| cdbs | the LOSA people might not be there | 15:39 |
| cdbs | anyway | 15:39 |
| cdbs | I'll try | 15:39 |
| ashams_ | cdbs, it's a war, ha :) | 15:47 |
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| ashams | cdbs, will mail vish | 15:48 |
| cdbs | ashams: shouldn't I mail him? | 16:20 |
| cdbs | Not a problem, if you've mailed already, doesn't matter | 16:20 |
| ashams | cdbs, nah not yet | 16:20 |
| ashams | got something from #launchpad ? | 16:20 |
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| hggdh | cdbs: oh, I see what you mean, badge-collectors and all | 17:43 |
| * cdbs thinks he had seen hggdh at UDS | 18:30 | |
| * hggdh thinks cdbs is correct | 18:48 | |
| hggdh | BTW, I remember an exchange with taowa4 wating to be a member of bug-control, and I (and others) refusing him due to no qualifications, and s/he insisting | 18:50 |
| cdbs | hggdh: I filed a question about this issue https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/179444 | 18:56 |
| cdbs | thanks to ashams for bringing me to light on the issue | 18:56 |
| ashams | cdbs, Thanks to you buddy. | 18:57 |
| cdbs | hggdh: And I have no idea how he was approved into ~papercutters when he has NO papercut triaging experience | 19:00 |
| hggdh | cdbs: perfect. Actually, I wonder how many members this badge-collectors team has ;-) | 19:00 |
| cdbs | hggdh: and many other experienced triagers like sense are out of the team (I'm not admin else I'll add sense to papercutters) | 19:01 |
| cdbs | hggdh: 1 member, taowa4 himself, but yeah, the team is new, and many people could want to join it | 19:01 |
| cdbs | hggdh: look at the immense number of badges taowa4 has, like, 3 rows of icons! | 19:01 |
| hggdh | yeah, first thing I notices | 19:02 |
| hggdh | noticed even | 19:02 |
| hggdh | heh. *I* am not a member of papercutters... | 19:02 |
| cdbs | the policies of getting into that are really strict | 19:05 |
| cdbs | I doubt if vish could have added him in | 19:05 |
| cdbs | I guess someone from the canonical UX team added him by mistake | 19:05 |
| cdbs | (where him is ~taowa4) | 19:05 |
| hggdh | yes, I think it was a mistake | 19:06 |
| hggdh | and I subscribed to the question in a.lp.net, I am also curious to see how the LOSAs will act | 19:09 |
| cdbs | ashams: UCA day was your idea? Nice! | 19:11 |
| ashams | cdbs, yep, Thanks :) | 19:17 |
| ashams | cdbs, hggdh I have just deactivated taowa again, we'll be having fun all the night long :) | 20:32 |
| cdbs | ashams: deactivated from? | 20:32 |
| cdbs | bugsquad? | 20:32 |
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| * hggdh wonders how old is s/he | 21:04 | |
| hggdh | ashams: BTW -- we are closing the mentorship programme, it did not work | 21:04 |
| gema | hggdh: why didn't it work? | 21:10 |
| hggdh | gema: unrealistic expectations from the mentees -- they pretty much expect us to hold their hands, and we simply do not have time for it | 21:24 |
| hggdh | so they (mostly) sit down and wait | 21:25 |
| ashams | cdbs, hey sorry I wasn't here. I meant pcuts-ninja | 21:54 |
| cdbs | ashams: ah, got it | 21:55 |
| cdbs | ashams: as a side note, he kicked me off the ninja team :) | 21:55 |
| cdbs | we're having a Steve Jobs-esque thermonuclear war! | 21:55 |
| ashams | :D | 21:55 |
| ashams | hggdh, but the mentorship program is essential | 21:56 |
| ashams | cdbs, heh Bilal is kicked from the team which he is supposed to lead hahaha | 22:00 |
| ashams | :P | 22:00 |
| cdbs | anyway | 22:00 |
| cdbs | we've discussed lot about that single troll on this channel | 22:01 |
| cdbs | we should stop: | 22:01 |
| cdbs | !feedthetroll | 22:01 |
| ubot4 | The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal. | 22:01 |
| cdbs | (well, that troll wasn't on IRC so ubottu's factoid contradicts the situation) | 22:01 |
| cdbs | but yeah, its outrageous, let's hope the LOSAs will fix it tomorrow | 22:02 |
| ashams | I hope so | 22:02 |
| hggdh | ashams: training is essential, I agree. Helping them to start is essential, I also agree. But mentoring did not work | 22:30 |
| hggdh | ashams: so we will be trying other options -- short videos, less that 2 min, showing details of bug triaging, etc | 22:31 |
| ashams | hggdh, do we have any other alternative to it? | 22:31 |
| hggdh | heh | 22:31 |
| ashams | :) | 22:31 |
| ashams | That will work too | 22:31 |
| hggdh | yes. Plus askubuntu, answers, etc, not counting the help we strive to provide in this channel | 22:32 |
| ashams | yeah, mentorship seemed to be exhausting for no reasonable output | 22:33 |
| gema | hggdh: fair enough | 22:45 |
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