[00:03] <Monotoko> julian_c, what would 775 be in umask form?
[00:04] <julian_c> 002
[00:04] <Monotoko> thanks!
[00:04] <julian_c> That would make directories 775, and files 664.
[00:05] <Monotoko> hmm... '-U <umask for files>:<umask for dirs>'
[00:05] <julian_c> Just saw that pure-ftpd does different masks for files and directories.
[00:05] <Monotoko> aye just seen :P
[00:05] <julian_c> So it would be '-U 133:022'
[00:06] <julian_c> Oops... 113:002
[00:07] <Monotoko> excellent! That will mean both my apache user and the virtual user can create and modify files and directries, yes?
[00:08] <julian_c> Correct.
[00:09] <Monotoko> thank you julian_c, you've been an amazing help :)
[00:09] <julian_c> You're welcome.
[00:10] <julian_c> You're setting up both virtual users and regular system users?
[00:11] <Monotoko> I think I'm going to go with just virtual unless a user requests a system user account... I'm going to shut off access to regular users
[00:11] <Monotoko> just feels a bit more secure that way
[00:11] <Monotoko> and means I don't need to keep adding apache to groups
[00:12] <julian_c> Hopefully, all of this will work just fine with virtual users.
[00:13] <Monotoko> well, my virtual users use UID & GID 2010... they are all under the "ftpuser" system account
[00:14] <Monotoko> so it should be fine
[00:20] <Monotoko> julian_c, sorry to bother you again... but any ideas how to run it with command-line options if I start it using "/etc/init.d/pure-ftp-mysql start"
[00:22] <ermo> How do I interpret the Ubuntu kernel versions? And what do I do if I'd like to get the latest patches to the 3.0 kernel (i.e. 3.0.9) but with the ubuntu patchset/configuration?
[00:22] <julian_c> I'd look in the /etc/default directory for a config file that deals with pure-ftpd.
[00:24] <Monotoko> there's an option for standalone or initd.... I've changed it to standalone, how do I start it?
[00:24] <ermo> nevermind, asking in #ubuntu-kernel instead :)
[00:25] <julian_c> init.d or xinet.d?
[00:28] <julian_c> Ah... found it. Yes... definitely go standalone. The init script will start up on its own upon (re)boot.
[00:29] <Monotoko> julian_c, hmmm... standalone is making it do this: root@dragon:/etc/default# /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd-mysql start
[00:29] <Monotoko> Starting ftp server: Running: /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-mysql -l mysql:/etc/pure-ftpd/db/mysql.conf -l pam -u 1000 -O clf:/var/log/pure-ftpd/transfer.log -E -A -j -8 UTF-8 -B
[00:29] <Monotoko> how do I change what it's running?
[00:29] <Monotoko> so I can add my umask?
[00:30] <Monotoko> there doesn't seem to be anything in /etc/default apart from one file to do with it, pure-ftpd-common with a few options in it
[00:36] <julian_c> You should also have a '/etc/pure-ftpd/conf' directory.
[00:36] <Monotoko> I do... but there's loads of files in here that just have "yes" or "no" in them
[00:38] <julian_c> If it's not already in that directory, create the file '/etc/pre-ftpd/conf/Umask' with the contents "133 022".
[00:38] <julian_c> Then, restart the service. The init script should source the new file, along with the other files in that directory.
[00:39] <Monotoko> julian_c, it worked! :D
[00:40] <julian_c> Glad to see that.
[00:40] <Monotoko> thank you ^^ for future ref... where did you find that info?
[00:40] <julian_c> I went to packages.ubuntu.com to figure out where all the config files were. Other than that, a bit of Googling.
[00:44] <julian_c> I recommend the following search term in Google: "/etc/pure-ftpd/conf" umask
[00:45] <julian_c> One of the results at the top is a good HOWTO for Debian/Ubuntu that shows more config examples.
[00:47] <Monotoko> julian_c, thank you.. I'm surprised there isn't one place with them all on o.o
[00:50] <Monotoko> good night all!
[00:50] <julian_c> Bye.
[01:19] <kklimonda> hmm, should chsh and chfn work with ldap?
[01:21] <julian_c> kklimonda: I'd look for LDAP-aware versions of those applications.
[01:22] <julian_c> (if they exist)
[01:23] <kklimonda> heh, at least I'm not going to waste another hour wondering what's wrong with my setup that it doesn't work ;)
[01:25] <julian_c> Perhaps look at the "libuser" package...
[01:56] <ceej> hey, can anyone help me with https://gist.github.com/1a816ceba7b040e3549c
[02:05] <CarlFK> how do I set good ol 80x25 mode?
[02:06] <CarlFK> and see the grub menu
[02:22] <kklimonda> ceej: the message is rather self explanatory. You have probably had mysql 5.5+ installed and now trying to do a de facto downgrade to 5.1 - if that's really what you want to do you have to remove mentioned files and try again.
[02:24] <ceej> kklimonda: I tried removing /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag with no luck
[02:25] <kklimonda> ceej: what does ls /var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag say?
[02:25] <kklimonda> CarlFK: you can get grub menu by editing /etc/default/grub
[02:26] <CarlFK> kklimonda: i have lost track of how many times I have edited it, and then sudo grub-mkconfig && sudo reboot
[02:26] <CarlFK> and yet no menu.
[02:26] <CarlFK> GRUB_TERMINAL=console lies.
[02:28] <kklimonda> it should be enough to comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and leave GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
[02:29] <kklimonda> as for getting old console - maybe some module loads and sets up a framebuffer? but really, if it's not slow then why bother getting back in time ;)
[02:30] <CarlFK> once it boots, I get a blank screen. hit alt-f1 to get tty1.  but it is in some small font that is hard to read
[02:32] <kklimonda> try booting with nomodeset
[02:33] <CarlFK> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" ?
[02:34] <kklimonda> I'd just edit entry directly in grub and boot it
[02:34] <kklimonda> and if it works add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[02:36] <kklimonda> on the other hand adding it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX would also change recovery entry so it may be a better place
[02:36] <CarlFK> well, getting it to work is a good first step
[02:36] <CarlFK> I have been doing: sudo grub-mkconfig && sudo reboot
[02:37] <CarlFK> but looking at /etc/default/grub I am wondering if my edits are having any effect
[02:38] <kklimonda> I always use update-grub
[02:39] <kklimonda> but grub-mkconfig seems to source /etc/default/grub so it should also work
[02:40] <CarlFK> someting doesn't
[02:40] <kklimonda> (which makes sense given that update-grub is just a thin wrapper over grub-mkconfig)
[02:40] <Dulcin> Is anyone familiar with the sender id framework? I keep getting temperror results from hotmail, while it does pass in other checks. I've registered my spf record with microsoft over a week ago as well and still the same error.
[02:40] <CarlFK> update-grub got me my 80x25 linux console back
[02:41] <Dulcin> i've googled my ass off, but can only find people with similar problems and no solutions
[02:42] <CarlFK> and now I have a grub menu
[02:42] <CarlFK> and it beeped too.
[06:15] <Zanzacar> I want to allow a user to read the apache logs and the only way I know how is to log in as root which isnt right
[06:17] <qman__> two options
[06:17] <qman__> one, set apache to log to a file the user can read for the sites desired
[06:17] <qman__> two, set up sudoers to allow that user to sudo for just that command
[06:19] <Zanzacar> thats what I have been doing is sudo ./scritp etc etc etc but that give read write access which isnt good since its I am not a great programmer and could mess things up
[06:22] <Zanzacar> There is a group called apache how can I tell what it has access it?
[06:23] <qman__> apache runs as www-data, however that's a bad plan as www-data has access to all the files apache does
[06:23] <qman__> you don't grant general sudo permission for everything, you narrow it to the specific command
[06:23] <qman__> i.e., create a script which does exactly what you want the user to do, then grant the user sudo permission only to run that script
[06:27] <Zanzacar> I guess that works, I just thought that it wouldnt be good to all the script to read and write instead of ust read.
[06:28] <Zanzacar> the script is in python and I open the files as read only so I guess it isnt that harmful
[06:29] <qman__> you make it so the user does not have the ability to write to the script
[06:29] <qman__> then, the user can run the script as root, and it will always do what you expect
[06:30] <qman__> there are other ways to do it, but this is the simplest as it does not require modifying any of the existing things
[06:30] <qman__> it just adds a new script, and adds a new permission
[06:32] <Zanzacar> so how do I do that? change chmod of the script? or just run it with sudo?
[06:33] <qman__> just change the permissions on the script so the user in question only has read and execute, not write
[06:33] <qman__> and then give that user permission to run that script as root in sudoers
[06:34] <Zanzacar> gotcha that makes since
[06:34] <Zanzacar> cool that is the way I have it setup already :)
[06:37] <qman__> from there, the only real vector of attack would be exploiting your script into running arbitrary code
[06:37] <qman__> but as long as you keep it fairly simple that should not be an issue
[06:37] <Zanzacar> well I am the only one how has a login, and all it does is data mine information for the access logs
[06:39] <Zanzacar> its for www.engineeringmaps.com and if you search for something I can see what your IP is, the date, and the search value
[07:05] <tjaalton> kklimonda: hey, I can do it on monday. is it only a rebuild that's needed or a new upstream version?
[07:42] <jehoshua02> I'm creating my first self-signed cert. How is the passphrase associated with the key pair used for?
[07:43] <jehoshua02> Does it have to be provided for every https connection?
[07:47] <jehoshua02> No, once when starting the service.
[08:06] <CppIsWeird> i just plugged in an SSD drive into my server box. i see the drive displayed during boot, however, fdisk -l does not list the disk.
[08:57] <EMKO> does ubuntu have mysql 5.5?
[09:19] <RoyK> EMKO: no, but there might be packages out there somewhere
[09:21] <RoyK> EMKO: dunno if 5.5 is scheduled for precise - file a bug...
[09:21] <RoyK> !bug
[09:24] <RoyK> EMKO: seems there's  talk about it already in bug #690925
[09:25] <EMKO> oh
[09:26] <EMKO> so when it comes out it will be for 12.04 ?
[09:26] <RoyK> looks like it
[09:27] <RoyK> what's so new and shiny in 5.5, btw?
[09:27] <EMKO> i dont know but im using it for some time on windows
[09:27]  * RoyK tends to stick to postgresql unless he really has to use toys like mysql for production
[09:28] <EMKO> i think 5.5 has been out since 2010
[09:34] <RoyK> yeah, saw that, but what's new in it?
[09:35] <RoyK> scales better, it seems
[09:35] <RoyK> I'd still use psql over mysql any day if I could choose...
[09:43] <RoyK> but then, systems like wordpress that are tied head and tail to mysql are ugly and can't be easily supported with anything else...
[09:44] <RoyK> whoever hardcodes anything to a particular DBMS these days must be either very lazy, must like that particular DBMS very much, or be outright stupid.....
[09:45] <EMKO> i think im just gona use 5.1 untill ubuntu gets 5.5 hopefully it will be easy to upgrade
[09:48] <EMKO> so if its for 12.04 only will i have to reinstall ubuntu or can i upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 from 11.10
[09:56] <RoyK> just do-release-upgrade
[09:56] <RoyK> EMKO: also, if it's a server you're installing, I'd recommend using the latest LTS release, 10.04
[09:56] <RoyK> things are far better tested there than in 11.10
[09:56] <EMKO> oh
[09:56] <RoyK> and 10.04 will upgrade to 12.04 directly when the latter is released (since that'll be an LTS as well)
[09:57] <RoyK> I only use LTS releases for servers - for good reason
[09:58] <EMKO> so 11.10 will update to 12.04 with that command when its out? i realy dont want to reinstall it took me a lot of time to figure out how to install and configure stuff
[09:58] <RoyK> you won't have to reinstall
[09:59] <EMKO> hows that? i can go from 11.10 to 10.04
[09:59] <RoyK> and if you're already on 11.10 and have spent some time tuning the system, just use it on that release
[09:59] <RoyK> you can't downgrade
[09:59] <EMKO> oh ok then i will wait for 12.04 upgrade to that and stick with it untill next LTS
[10:01] <RoyK> EMKO: by default, upgrading to an LTS will set Prompt=lts in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, so after upgrading to 12.04LTS a do-release-upgrade won't do much unless you change prompt to 'normal'
[10:02] <EMKO> promt=lts make it only upgrade to lts?
[10:02] <RoyK> yes
[10:03] <RoyK> so once on 12.04, and prompt=lts, it won't do a release upgrade until 14.04 comes around
[10:03] <EMKO> well then i will stay with that so i only upgrade to lts
[10:03] <RoyK> yes
[10:03] <RoyK> lts is fairly safe
[11:10] <dassouki> upgrading my distro from 10.4 to 11.4 is a bit of a challenge, after I did the apt-get update, do-release-upgrade, most packages were downloaded and installed. The install claims it was successful except for a few packages that it couldn't install
[11:10] <dassouki> when I do cat /etc/release it still says i'm on 10.4 and i can't apt-get anything although i tried autoremove -f install and autoclean but it seems to be stuck on two othree packages
[11:11] <dassouki> slapd, libgdal (gis library), and python-apt
[11:37] <RoyK> dassouki: remove the packages and reinstall them
[11:38] <RoyK> dassouki: your distro will be on 10.10 after the initial do-release-upgrade, and you'll need to re-run it to get to 11.04 and then again to get to 11.10
[11:56] <dassouki> ok
[11:57] <dassouki> RoyK: everytime I try to uninstall any of the packages it lists 20 or so packages to be removed and some of htem are core
[12:16] <RoyK> ouch
[12:16] <RoyK> dassouki: can you pastebin the output from "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[12:17] <RoyK> or "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:19] <dassouki> RoyK: http://pastebin.com/Da1NUpdT
[12:23] <RoyK> and apt-get install -f ?
[12:25] <dassouki> the same excpet it has failed for correcting dependencies and this E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[12:26] <RoyK> what about dpkg --configure -a ?
[12:30]  * RoyK bbl
[12:43] <dassouki> RoyK: ok ping me when you're back
[12:54] <jehoshua02> I have two domain names pointing at my public ip address, but my server is serving the same thing for both of them.
[12:55] <jehoshua02> I'd like only the specific domain names configured to be served and the rest given a 404 or something, but I am lost as to how to do it.
[12:57] <dassouki> jehoshua02: have you looked at LAMP tutorials or apache or nginx tutorials?
[12:58] <jehoshua02> I've must have been googling the wrong stuff.
[13:00] <kklimonda> dassouki: you either have a mess in your sources.list, or overzealous pinning rules
[13:02] <kklimonda> dassouki: for example you somehow ended up with part of openldap from precise (2.4.25-3ubuntu3 is a precise version)
[13:03] <kklimonda> but the rest is still from lucid
[13:03] <jehoshua02> Every where I look, I don't find anything about this particular issue.
[13:06] <jehoshua02> I'd like the default vhost to just 404 error or something but I can't find what I'm looking for.
[13:11] <RoyK> dassouki: I realy don't know - sorry...
[14:07] <dassouki> RoyK: thanks!
[14:08] <dassouki> kklimonda: I see that. I'll probably look at this on Tuesday then.
[14:11] <virusuy> howdy
[14:13] <RoyK> ehlo
[14:18] <patdk-lap> heh
[14:41] <CarlFK> carl@g2a:~$ sudo mcelog ; mcelog: warning: 16 bytes ignored in each record ;mcelog: consider an update
[14:41] <CarlFK> what's that mean?  (me goes to the google now...
[14:48] <CarlFK> swell, the only relevant hit is just someone else getting the same message:  http://pastebin.com/kSNgvc6c
[14:48] <CarlFK> everyone else gets  mcelog: warning: 18446744073709551600 bytes ignored in each record
[14:55] <RoyK> lol
[14:56] <jMCg> That's quite a lot of bytes.
[14:57] <jMCg> 15 peta bytes?
[14:57] <RoyK> jMCg: or 16 exabytes...
[15:00] <RoyK> (16*1024^6)-16 to be precise :þ
[15:06] <dassouki> 9is there a tool to automatically clean my sources.list ?
[15:06] <CarlFK> undocumented feature: mcelog --version; mcelog 1.0pre
[15:06] <CarlFK> dassouki: how clean? :)
[15:06] <dassouki> Javex clean
[15:08] <CarlFK> # slcomp.py - sources.list compactor; # reads in /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.d/* files; # consolidates redundancies,
[15:08] <CarlFK> like that?
[15:11] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.de/ACEc0/  slcomp.py - sources.list compactor
[15:48] <dassouki> CarlFK: thanks it was more that to remove old repos from old distros and drop the ones thta don't exist no more
[15:49] <CarlFK> echo "# clean!" > /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[15:50] <CarlFK> huh, looks like I get errors at 299.988026 after boot  http://dpaste.de/EJuE4/
[15:50] <CarlFK> +/- something probably based on .. quoting from man mcelog:
[15:51] <CarlFK>  Possible  causes can be cosmic radiation, instable power supplies, cooling        problems, broken hardware, or bad luck.
[15:52] <CarlFK> should add "CERN experiments"  to the list
[17:33] <aaronbieber> Can someone help me out… Evidently karmic koala's sources are no longer on the archive site, and I'd like to upgrade, but since I can't download any packages I'm not sure how to get the update package…?
[17:34] <aaronbieber> I'm on 9.10 and totally missed the news that supported ended in April, suddenly all of my automatic updates are throwing 404s because the karmic directory is gone from archive.ubuntu.com.
[17:35] <aaronbieber> I popped in here because most of the online docs are for the desktop version and use the X11 programs, but this is a server, I have SSH access only.
[17:36] <jMCg> O_o
[17:36] <jMCg> aaronbieber: update.. what, exactly?
[17:36] <aaronbieber> I mean I could go ahead and upgrade to the latest distribution if karmic packages will no longer be released.
[17:36] <CarlFK> aaronbieber: there is no supported path from there..
[17:36] <aaronbieber> So I'm screwed :(
[17:37] <CarlFK> aaronbieber: make a 2nd backup, wipe the drive, install OS, restore data, muck with configs.
[17:37] <Myrtti> of course could try to get old-releases, upgrade to lucid
[17:37] <Myrtti> with caveats
[17:38] <aaronbieber> Ugghhh. It's mostly a straightforward LAMP stack and I would expect that stuff to be OK but I have some wacky stuff floating around in there. Probably best to start from scratch.
[17:38] <CarlFK> yep
[17:39] <aaronbieber> Thanks!
[17:58] <tarvid> want to load 11.10-server-i386 by usb stick
[17:58] <tarvid> usb-creator-gtk created an empty file system
[17:58] <tarvid> trying to run again but I can't get rid of the 2.0GB parition
[18:02] <CarlFK> tarvid: I think you can just dd the .iso onto the stick
[18:03] <tarvid> that is not what http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download says
[18:03] <tarvid> But I like it
[18:04] <tarvid> Even though it lacks safeguards
[18:04] <CarlFK> "You will need to create a CD or USB stick to install Ubuntu"
[18:05] <CarlFK> what's a CD made out of...
[18:08] <tarvid> maxell 2GB stick now seems hosed - reports 2mb
[18:10] <CarlFK> tarvid: don't worry abuot that, see if it boots
[18:18] <CarlFK> ddns fun...  20 12:02:02 g2a dhcpd: Unable to add forward map from pc8.private to 192.168.1.13: timed out
[18:18] <CarlFK> timed out?
[18:21] <tarvid> doesn't boot, gparted does not see the volume
[18:21] <CarlFK> paste the dd command
[18:22] <tarvid> tarvid@geewiz:~/Desktop$ sudo dd if=ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso of=/dev/sfc
[18:22] <tarvid> ah that's not righjt
[18:22] <CarlFK> sf?
[18:23] <tarvid> tarvid@geewiz:~/Desktop$ sudo dd if=ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc
[18:23] <tarvid> dd: writing to `/dev/sdc': No space left on device
[18:23] <tarvid> 4097+0 records in
[18:23] <tarvid> 4096+0 records out
[18:23] <tarvid> 2097152 bytes (2.1 MB) copied, 1.53778 s, 1.4 MB/s
[18:23] <tarvid> the usb stick is not looking good
[18:23] <CarlFK> weird.
[18:23] <tarvid> yes
[18:23] <CarlFK> just a sec.. google time...
[18:27] <dsirijus> how come 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' doesn't ask me which locales do i want to add/remove? the fancy cli dialogs?
[18:33] <CarlFK> tarvid: try cat instead of dd - http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/Debian_USB_install_from_hybrid_iso/
[18:36] <CarlFK> tarvid: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Distributed-As-Hybrid-CD-USB-images-206765.shtml
[18:36] <CarlFK> so it should work
[18:38] <tarvid> root@geewiz:/home/tarvid/Desktop# cat ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso >/dev/sdc
[18:38] <tarvid> cat: write error: No space left on device
[18:38] <Daviey> eek, sorry for the spam
[18:38] <tarvid> I think the USB stick is now hosed
[18:40] <CarlFK> tarvid: sudo -s
[18:41] <CarlFK> tarvid: or figure out how to use sudo and redirection.. which makes me edgy. so I just become root.  don't tell anyone
[18:41] <tarvid> tarvid@geewiz:~/Desktop$ sudo -s cat ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso > /dev/sdc
[18:41] <tarvid> bash: /dev/sdc: Permission denied
[18:41] <CarlFK> tarvid: you can write whatever bytes you want to memory, it won't break the memory.
[18:42] <CarlFK> no...  just suto -s
[18:42] <CarlFK> er, sudo -s
[18:42] <CarlFK> and you shoun't be doing anything sudo that you get from IRC without looking into what it dose :)
[18:42] <tarvid> cat: write error: No space left on device
[18:43] <dsirijus> hey, where is console-data?
[18:43] <dsirijus> no package found, reports apt-get
[18:44] <CarlFK> apt-cache policy console-data; 2:1.10-9 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe i386 Packages
[18:45] <dsirijus> CarlFK: ?
[18:45] <CarlFK> that's where it is?
[18:45] <qman__> CarlFK, tarvid: cat ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso | sudo tee /dev/sdc
[18:46] <tarvid> won't that dump 712MB of gibberish to the screen
[18:46] <qman__> no, that is functionally the same as using >
[18:46] <qman__> that's just how you do it with sudo, instead of using a root terminal
[18:46] <lifeless> no its not
[18:47] <lifeless>        tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files
[18:47] <lifeless> ...
[18:47] <lifeless>        Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.
[18:47] <CarlFK> fight fight!
[18:47] <lifeless> cat ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso | sudo dd of=/dev/sdc bs=65536
[18:47] <dsirijus> CarlFK: i found it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/console-data
[18:47] <dsirijus> and i use 64 bit system
[18:47] <dsirijus> and i don't have a clue how to get it if it doesn't come up with apt-get install
[18:48] <tarvid> the problem is the geometry is now hosed
[18:48] <qman__> fdisk
[18:49] <tarvid> fdisk -i /dev/sdc never returns
[18:49] <dsirijus> i'm basically having problem with putty on win 7 not displaying some characters properly on remote ubuntu 11.04 server
[18:49] <qman__> if it's being difficult, zero then fdisk
[18:49] <qman__> if that doesn't work, the hardware's probably bad
[18:49] <dsirijus> so, i just presume console-data will help me
[18:49] <CarlFK> I don't think there is a need for fdisk
[18:49] <tarvid> -i no longer works in fdisk
[18:49] <qman__> I don't know what -i does
[18:49] <CarlFK> much like not needing to fdisk a blank cd
[18:50] <tarvid> how do I get/set the geometry?
[18:50] <qman__> sdc is a CD device?
[18:50] <tarvid> maxell USB stick
[18:51] <qman__> flash drives (can) have partitions just like hard drives
[18:51] <qman__> and fdisk should work normally, but according to the manual, -i is not an fdisk option
[18:51] <tarvid> fdisk will let me set the geometry, now I have to guess what a 2GB stick should look like
[18:51] <CarlFK> qman__: and you can clone 2 drives without using fdisk on the target
[18:51] <qman__> so I don't know what you are trying to use it to do
[18:52] <tarvid> trying to recover from usb-creator-gtk destroying the geometry in my usb memory stick
[18:52] <CarlFK> the goal is to get the first byte of ubuntu-11.10-server-i386.iso written to the first byte of the usb stick.. repeat...
[18:53] <CarlFK> have you given up trying to boot from the usb stick?
[18:53] <tarvid> the usb stick is basically unwriteable beyond 2MB
[18:54] <qman__> Disk /dev/sdc: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes
[18:54] <qman__> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243 cylinders
[18:54] <qman__> that's a 2GB flash drive I have
[18:55] <tarvid> I'll try it
[18:55] <qman__> since geometry is largely for compatibility reasons anymore, setting yours the same should work
[18:55] <CarlFK> qman__: why bother setting it?
[18:56] <qman__> if the geometry is wrong, weird things can happen
[18:56] <qman__> my point is, almost all new drives have the same geometry settings
[18:56] <qman__> because they're not actually relevant on a hardware level
[18:57] <qman__> but when set wrong, you can get miscommunication and some strange results
[18:57] <CarlFK> huh
[18:58] <CarlFK> im still skeptical it is relevant to this problem
[18:58] <qman__> odds are the flash drive is toasted
[18:58] <qman__> but it's worth a try
[18:59] <tarvid> I'm going to exchange it
[18:59] <tarvid> This is silly
[18:59] <qman__> I recently ran into geometry issues when I set up my file server, some of the drives had wrong geometry and so the available space was wrong
[19:00] <tarvid> q
[19:06] <EMKO> what does failed length mean in ab
[19:09] <tarvid> back with a fresh sticdk showing Public and mac and xp directories
[19:09] <tarvid> how should I try writing ubuntu to this stick
[19:10] <dsirijus> ok, i've isolated my problem to following - i cannot input foreign characters in putty but i can paste them in...
[19:11] <tarvid> or do I just run the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator program again
[19:15] <dsirijus> anyone here actually using putty to administer server from windows?
[19:18] <tarvid> only when I absolutely have to
[19:18] <EMKO> whats wrong with putty
[19:19] <tarvid> when I have to run windows I do it in a VM with Virtualbox
[19:19] <tarvid> Putty is just as wonderful as Windows
[19:21] <tarvid> But I have to admit Unity makes XP look good
[19:23] <tarvid> in which package do I report the Startup Disk Creator Bug?
[19:24] <tarvid> Ah, I'll bet I lost the Authenticate window the first time
[19:26] <tarvid> And I'll let the Upgrade volume detected window hang
[19:28] <qman__> I've used the startup disk creator several times with success
[19:30] <jelly-home> dsirijus: I'd suggest using UTF-8 translation on putty, and using some utf8 locale on the remote machine.  "locale -a" will give a list of currently enabled locales.
[19:30] <dsirijus> jelly-home: i'm using en-US.UTF-8 locale on server, and UTF-8 translation on putty
[19:31] <jelly-home> dsirijus: ok, and does locale -a show something like "en_US.utf8" ?
[19:31] <dsirijus> jelly-home: yes
[19:31] <jelly-home> dsirijus: then en_US.UTF-8 (note the third character is an underscore) ought to work
[19:32] <dsirijus> jelly-home: i guess it doesn't :(
[19:32] <jelly-home> dsirijus: how exactly does it fail?
[19:33] <dsirijus> i cannot input ćčđ, and can žš
[19:33] <dsirijus> and i can paste in any
[19:34] <jelly-home> dsirijus: interesting choice of characters.  There is a #ubuntu-hr channel as well.
[19:34] <EMKO> what else is there for windows other then putty?
[19:35] <tarvid> it is downhill from putty
[19:35] <EMKO> oh
[19:35] <dsirijus> should i jump to #ubuntu-hr then?
[19:35] <tarvid> I like jelly-home's suggestion on URF-8
[19:35] <tarvid> UTF
[19:35] <jelly-home> dsirijus: if it's easier for you to explain the issue in your native language, sure ;-)
[19:36] <dsirijus> jelly-home: how come you know for croatian chars?
[19:36] <jelly-home> dsirijus: /whois jelly-home
[19:36] <EMKO> im croatian
[19:36] <dsirijus> great then :)
[19:37] <dsirijus> i had Dželalija as my high-school physics teacher
[19:37] <dsirijus> she was awesome
[19:37] <jelly-home> EMKO: well you could join the local channel then, too, if you wished
[19:37] <dsirijus> ok, i'm moving to -hr then
[19:37] <EMKO> naa more people here
[19:38] <jelly-home> dsirijus: is there usage of screen involved as well?
[19:38] <dsirijus> no, but is planned
[20:05] <jelly-home> EMKO: you can be in more than one channel at the same time.  A novel approach!
[20:28] <three18ti> how do I reset an orchestra login?  I reset the cobbler login, but when I try to login through http://example.com/cobbler_web with my newly reset username/password it returns me to the login screen.
[20:30] <three18ti> this is a fresh install, so if I have to reinstall the meta-package I can...  but it seems like there should be a way to add/remove/modify user logins...
[20:32] <tarvid> Thanks CarlFK and everybody, the install is complete, have a hunch the grub install authorization message got lost in the desktop and the erase in startup disk creator hammeded the USB stick
[20:51] <RidDrib> Hello
[20:51] <RoyK> .... . .-.. .-.. ---
[20:52]  * jelly-home pipes RoyK to morse -d
[22:26] <three18ti> anyone using orchestra?
[22:37] <DanaG> Say, what happened to the "ASPEED" video driver in oneiric?
[22:38] <DanaG> It seems to be missing, or at least isn't a package.
[22:44] <lifeless> hallyn: hiya... another lxc glitch - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/892892
[23:34] <DanaG> hmm, installed lightdm, but no gnome or anything...
[23:36] <DanaG> !find xsessions
[23:37] <DanaG> hmm, that link doesn't work.
[23:38] <DanaG> !find /xsessions/
[23:39] <DanaG> !find /usr/share/xsessions