[00:01] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[00:03] <mongy> Doodie: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu is a nice resouce.
[00:03] <mongy> *resource
[00:04] <Doodie> okey
[00:04] <indio> FIX UNITY PLEASEEE!!!!
[00:05] <reisio> hrmmm
[00:05] <ironfoot495> ok nvidia driver is installed
[00:06] <ironfoot495> actionparsnip?
[00:07] <ironfoot495> actionparsnip: are you there?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: back
[00:08] <oy1r> ubuntu 10.04 networking does not work, wired and wireless.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: whats the score?
[00:08] <ironfoot495> ok good
[00:08] <ironfoot495> I installed the driver as you requested
[00:08] <usr13> oy1r: You already said that.  Would you like to try and fix it?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> oy1r: run:  sudo lshw -C network     and you can see the network chips and find guides using that. Thought to try oneiric? the later drivers may help
[00:09] <ironfoot495> parsesnip:  what's my next step?
[00:09] <ironfoot495> Actionparsnip: sorry
[00:10] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip:?
[00:11] <NatureTM> I've got a fresh ubuntu 11.10 amd64 install.  I'm having trouble with the samba client.  "failed to retrieve share list from server"  The server has always worked with other clients.  Any ideas?
[00:12] <nuno> got a question people
[00:12] <nuno> i'm a travian addict
[00:12] <nuno> how can i use TM bot on linux?
[00:12] <nuno> i tried wine but it won't work
[00:13] <nuno> is there any emulator that can run this program?
[00:13] <staykov> ActionParsnip: i installed it, and I see the videodev.h file, however when I run make it still does not find it, is there a way to copy it somewhere to make it see? I see where it is included
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: if you run:  nvidia-settings     does it show the driver installed and running?
[00:13] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: wait one
[00:13] <staykov> and it finds other libraries in the includes folder, just that one still says file does not exist
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> staykov: that's all I know. I don't code?
[00:14] <oy1r> i guess i'll just give oneiric a shot, it's hopeless working on this with out networking !.
[00:14] <staykov> i see, thanks anyways
[00:17] <ironfoot495> I just ran the nvidia-settings cmd and got   a message saying you do not appear to be using the X driver??
[00:17] <Phoenix87> toshiba or hp?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[00:18] <maslen> How can I make flash videos (ex: youtube) run efficiently? On Windows, the card could handle 1080p. On Ubuntu 11.04 x64, it stutters on 720p. I'm also running the newest nvidia drivers (as I had hoped updating them would make a difference).
[00:18] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[00:19] <maslen> (I'm using firefox)
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> maslen: which nvidia chip?
[00:19] <maslen> 9400gt
[00:19] <AndroidLoverInSF> since you cant login as root in ubuntu, how can you scp a file under a dir only accessible by root, or how can you do sshfs mount a dir owned by root and somewhat locked down? is there a workaround or is this just a given inconvenience?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> maslen: different OS with different support so things wil run differently
[00:20] <maslen> It seems strange to have such a huge difference in performance though..
[00:20] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: Say can't find it???
[00:20] <maslen> plugin-container is using 150% CPU :(
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> maslen: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: and you installed nvidia-current package?
[00:21] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: I'll make sure be back!!!
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> maslen: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'fash|gnash|swf|spark'     thanks, use a pastebin
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: could try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:22] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: It says it's the  newest program on ubuntu11.04
[00:22] <blz> I have an ubuntu 10.04 server with a bunch of media (videos).  Is there a way of setting up a streaming media server that can be accessed via a web interface?
[00:23] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: ok I'll try it.
[00:23] <Phoenix87> any suggestions for a new laptop? (possibly \in \{toshiba, hp\})
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix87: system76
[00:24] <maslen> ActionParsnip: I don't have egrep :(. I've also tried using the flash-aid FF plugin.
[00:24] <Tm0> Where does firefox save flash content
[00:24] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: nvidia-current is already the newest version
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> maslen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:24] <blz> Phoenix87, system76 is certainly compatible with ubuntu but I wasn't thrilled with their product...
[00:25] <maslen> 'natty' ?
[00:25] <Phoenix87> hmm
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> maslen: egrep is a standard command, I suggest you install it
[00:25] <blz> Phoenix87, just sayin =)
[00:25] <aking1012> @blz streaming is dones with VLC or red5
[00:25] <Phoenix87> i need high performances
[00:25] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: I hope you hav'nt run out of Ideas!!
[00:25] <LuiCal> please, can someone help me? My mouse and keyboard are constantly freezing randomly and with no specific action going on. Usually whatever program is running behind keeps going on well, but my mouse and keyboard are freezed. Im running ubuntu 11.10 (and i have also tried 10.04,11.04 and other flavors withe the same problem) and i have a i5 processor, 1 terra hd, 8gb of ram (brand new, cause i memtest the ones i had and they were having errors). i updated my 
[00:25] <blz> aking1012, correct me if I'm wrong, but VLC doesn't offer streaming through a web interface does it?
[00:25] <Tm0> Does anyone know where temporary files are stored in Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:26] <Phoenix87> using some computer aided system and stuff
[00:26] <acerimmer> Phoenix87: /tmp
[00:26] <usr13_> ironfoot495: lsb_release -a > info.txt ; uname -a >> info.txt ; dpkg -l | egrep 'fash|gnash|swf|spark' >> info.txt ; pastebin info.txt
[00:26] <Phoenix87> *algebra
[00:26] <usr13_> and send resulting URL
[00:26] <blz> Tm0, /tmp I believe
[00:26] <acerimmer> Tm0: /tmp
[00:26] <LuiCal> please help
[00:27] <usr13_> ironfoot495: lsb_release -a > info.txt ; uname -a >> info.txt ; dpkg -l | egrep 'fash|gnash|swf|spark' >> info.txt ; pastebinit info.txt
[00:27] <oy1r> installing 9.10
[00:27] <blz> !ask | LuiCal
[00:27] <LuiCal> My mouse and keyboard are constantly freezing randomly and with no specific action going on. Usually whatever program is running behind keeps going on well, but my mouse and keyboard are freezed. Im running ubuntu 11.10 (and i have also tried 10.04,11.04 and other flavors withe the same problem) and i have a i5 processor, 1 terra hd, 8gb of ram (brand new, cause i memtest the ones i had and they were having errors). i updated my bios also and the problem was
[00:27] <maslen> ActionParsnip: Err, how do I install egrep? It doesn't appear to be in apt or synaptic.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Tm0: use youtube-dl or an addon/extension if you want to download flash stuffas
[00:27] <blz> !repeat|LuiCal
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> maslen: sudo apt-get install grep
[00:28] <pnorman> LuiCal: You cut off at "updated my bios also and the problem was"
[00:28] <Tm0> Thank you all!
[00:28] <bastidra1or> maslen: ActionParsnip grep should be installed by default
[00:28] <maslen> ActionParsnip: I have grep, just not egrep :(
[00:28] <maslen> oh, nvm.
[00:28] <maslen> strange
[00:28] <usr13_> LuiCal: Is this a desktop or laptop ?
[00:28] <LuiCal> when i updated the problem was aparently solved, but it came back
[00:29] <apwbdjp> !info grep | maslen
[00:29] <LuiCal> desktop
[00:29] <LuiCal> i5 processor
[00:29] <apwbdjp> masen, the grep package contains egrep
[00:29] <apwbdjp> maslen*, sorry
[00:29] <pnorman> LuiCal: Not the most likely cause, but did you also memtest the new RAM?
[00:30] <usr13_> LuiCal: Clean inside?  How about heat-sink/processor chip?  New grease?  Or any grease?
[00:30] <LuiCal> not yet, but it is brand new
[00:30] <maslen> ActionParsnip: http://www.pastie.org/2890633
[00:30] <LuiCal> i opened the package
[00:30] <usr13_> LuiCal: I've bought bad RAM before.
[00:31] <LuiCal> but the thing is all the processes are going well behind
[00:31] <LuiCal> and fast
[00:31] <raouf> hi there, does any one know a vim auto completion plugin ? (for languages such html, c, or even bash...)
[00:31] <pnorman> LuiCal: What happens if you unplug the keyboard and mouse and plug it back in to a different port?
[00:32] <usr13_> LuiCal: Mouse and keyboard types?  USB or PS2  ?
[00:32] <LuiCal> when i unplug the keyboard and plug it back, the problem persists
[00:32] <LuiCal> ps2
[00:33] <usr13_> LuiCal: Grease?
[00:33] <Quantum_Ion> LuiCal, Is it a laptop ?
[00:33] <blz> aking1012, do you have any resources for configuring red5 on 10.04?
[00:33] <LuiCal> nop a desktop
[00:33] <rcxking> where do i go to ask questions about ubuntu and the beagleboard?
[00:33] <LuiCal> whats grease?
[00:33] <usr13_> LuiCal: Is there thermal grease between processor and heat sink?
[00:33] <maslen> LuiCal: Thermal paste
[00:33] <LuiCal> aah, nop
[00:34] <Quantum_Ion> lol@thermal greasee never heard of that one before
[00:34] <usr13_> LuiCal: And is the fan in working order?
[00:34] <LuiCal> i havent seen anything
[00:34] <pnorman> LuiCal: Did you build it yourself, or is it pre-built?
[00:34] <apwbdjp> raouf, Yep, check at http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keywords=completion&script_type=&order_by=rating&direction=descending&search=search
[00:34] <usr13_> LuiCal: What processor is it?
[00:34] <LuiCal> ive also ran the system monitor, and it keeps running very well and without may processes
[00:34] <usr13_> AMD Intel?
[00:35] <LuiCal> i5 processor
[00:35] <zykotick9__> LuiCal, for future reference, DON'T unplug a PS/2 keybaord from a running system (can do very bad things)
[00:35] <usr13_> Check for thermal grease.  It there is none there, get some.
[00:35] <ybit> looking for a tiling solution
[00:35] <pnorman> usr13_: Would you expect thermal problems to cause the computer to continue to run while the keyboard and mouse don't?
[00:36] <ybit> loving my xmonad experience, wondering if any progress has been made on this front in ubuntu?
[00:36] <usr13_> zykotick9__: I don't know about that.  I know that older OSs would balk at it, but most modern OSs are ok with it.
[00:36] <LuiCal> is build it for me
[00:36] <rcxking> hi, could someone please help me with installing ubuntu 10.04 netbook on a beagleboard c4?
[00:36] <Quantum_Ion> Sometimes try to use stable LTS releases of Ubuntu Linux
[00:36] <zykotick9__> usr13, with USB it's fine, with PS/2 it isn't
[00:36] <LuiCal> is not prebuilt
[00:36] <usr13_> pnorman: Some systems will shut down, some will just lock up.
[00:36] <Quantum_Ion> Sometimes Ubuntu Linux does lockup
[00:37] <mikeg3> Hi...how to log out of the Guest account in oneric?
[00:37] <LuiCal> i used the LTS ubuntu but happened the same thing
[00:37] <pnorman> LuiCal: If you built it yourself and didn't put on any thermal grease you've got a *big* problem there, even if it's not the cause of your current problems. Without thermal grease you'll end up with a cooked CPU
[00:37] <tompa> If i change desktop enviroment will my settings then be rested?
[00:37] <LuiCal> the only funny thing is that when i updated the bios, the problem was aparently solved for a while
[00:38] <anAngel> Hello. My ubuntu 11.10 dont mount my smb mount points in /etc/fstab at boot. But after it finishes and i login with the root and execute "mount -a" it does mount it. Any help please
[00:38] <LuiCal> i did not build it myself
[00:38] <usr13_> pnorman: We do not know at this point if it is a total system lock up or if the only problem is that the mouse and keyboard no longer respond.  Unless he tells that he can ssh in and control the system from anoter, we do not know.
[00:39] <LuiCal> but the thing is the system does not freeze, only the mouse and keyboard
[00:39] <pnorman> usr13_: We know stuff keeps on running
[00:39] <LuiCal> everything is running well and without overloading
[00:39] <usr13_> LuiCal: How do you know?
[00:39] <LuiCal> i use to run windows in it with very heavy software
[00:39] <LuiCal> and i always keep system monitor open
[00:39] <usr13_> LuiCal: Is this a server or desktop?
[00:40] <jimmy_kash> Hello, is it better to transfer large files between 2 servers via SCP or a VPN
[00:40] <LuiCal> to see how the processor is flowing
[00:40] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, did you try pluging a USB mouse or keyboard, when that happens?
[00:40] <LuiCal> desktop
[00:40] <ermo> jimmy_kash: are the servers on the same lan or not?
[00:40] <usr13_> apwbdjp: Thank you.  That was next best question...
[00:40] <LuiCal> nop, i dont have any usb mouse or keyboard right now
[00:40] <jimmy_kash> ermo: No in different countries
[00:41] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: The two aren't exclusive. I've found SCP is a lot *easier* to set up than a VPN if you just want to move some files.
[00:41] <ermo> jimmy_kash: one time thing or continuous transfer?
[00:41] <usr13_> LuiCal: Have you tried to ssh into the system from another,  (after the lockup?)
[00:41] <LuiCal> i saw lots of people with the same problem on forums, but none have a concrete answer for this
[00:41] <jimmy_kash> ermo: Continual backup files regularly being checked for and moved.
[00:41] <LuiCal> the thing is i cannot input any command after the keyboard freezes
[00:41] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: I can tell a VPN is a massive hassle - so SCP would seem easier
[00:42] <relac> salut
[00:42] <LuiCal> nop i havent
[00:42] <usr13_> LuiCal: Obviously, we don't either, at this point.  System lockups can be due to multiple causes, but most are hardware issues.
[00:42] <LuiCal> i dont know how to do it
[00:42] <ermo> jimmy_kash: with scp, you use the CPU power of the hosts themselves. With a VPN, you farm out the CPU usage to the equipment running the tunnel
[00:42] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, could you run htop (or top) and wait for it freeze? (or make it freeze if you can)
[00:42] <ironfoot495> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/743793/
[00:42] <ermo> jimmy_kash: so for simplicity, I'd go with scp
[00:42] <usr13_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743793/
[00:43] <LuiCal> how can i run it
[00:43] <LuiCal> ?
[00:43] <jimmy_kash> ermo: SCP compresses a file right?  Does this mean it is faster than a normal VPN file copy
[00:43] <ermo> jimmy_kash: possibly using PKI w/no password
[00:43] <ermo> jimmy_kash: you decide whether compression is used
[00:43] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), and type in top, then enter
[00:43] <LuiCal> ok it is running
[00:43] <ermo> jimmy_kash: IIRC, that is.
[00:43] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: it can - if it helps depends on if you're bandwidth limited or CPU limited.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> usr13_: looks fine, you have 32bit OS so flash is nice and easy
[00:44] <LuiCal> what do i have to check after it freezes?
[00:44] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, that'll give you cpu usage and everything, just make sure it's in foreground when the thing happens
[00:44] <jimmy_kash> ermo: So if I was copying a 100mb file over SCP or VPN, SCP has the ability to be faster, it just might use my CPU locally of the sending server more?
[00:44] <LuiCal> ok
[00:44] <pnorman> When I set it up once I was transferring to a slow computer over a fast network connection so compression would of slowed it down.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> maslen: ok, enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[00:45] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: what do i have to do to get ths working?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !info adobe-flashplugin natty
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: what is the current sitation?
[00:45] <zykotick9> jimmy_kash, both ssh and vpn are encrypted, so aren't going to be "fastest" method for transferring files
[00:45] <ermo> jimmy_kash: again, depends on your VPN hardware (whether it's accelerated). Try the scp solution first :)
[00:46] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: It cant find the nvidia-xconfig file?
[00:46] <ermo> jimmy_kash: if you can spare the CPU cycles, compress the backups yourself.
[00:46] <jimmy_kash> ermo: Are there any other options I should be looking at for regular large file transfer between two ubuntu machines?
[00:46] <ermo> nah
[00:46] <ermo> not really
[00:46] <usr13> ActionParsnip: that was from ironfoot495   Was just calling it to your attention.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: ironfoot495 it's part of nvidia-current package. If you run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current     does it install?
[00:46] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: How large are we talking here? I use external drives for large transfers
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> usr13: ty
[00:47] <ironfoot495> wait one
[00:47] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: It can be 800mb, 50mb, it just depends on the backup file I am using.  I have a lot of servers hosting a lot of sites, some that have a lot of media files
[00:47] <ermo> jimmy_kash: ssh / scp are so ubiquitous and straightforward to work with that it just adds extra complexity to use e.g. a VPN solution.
[00:47] <ermo> jimmy_kash: that's all my personal opinion, of course  :)
[00:48] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: in that case, I'd just go with scp. you can set it up so you never have to input a password. i'd only look at a VPN if I wanted to direct all of my internet traffic through another site
[00:48] <jimmy_kash> ermo: fair enough mate.  Thanks for your help
[00:49] <zus> ActionParsnip,  i dont know what i did bit i decided to follow the Virtual box  to get at least one less error, but in fixing that i get  no more errors at all. i wonder if that was mucking everything or if it removed all my  errors or  keys -
[00:49] <anAngel> Hello. My ubuntu 11.10 dont mount my smb mount points in /etc/fstab at boot. But after it finishes and i login with the root and execute "mount -a" it does mount it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
[00:49] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: I think you and ermo are right.
[00:49] <usr13> ActionParsnip: One interesting thing I see is that his kernel version is 2.6.38-12 and my Ubuntu 10.04 is on 2.6.32-35 (and AFAIK, mine is fully updated).
[00:49] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: also, I'd compress your backups then transfer them without compression - having them compressed first allows you to store them on the other end compressed and save space
[00:50] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: Thank you for your help.  One final and possibly n00b question - using ssh without password I assume requires keys?
[00:50] <ermo> jimmy_kash: spot on :)
[00:50] <ermo> jimmy_kash: plenty of guides out there for that
[00:50] <pnorman> Ya. In my case, I set it up so that one machine had full access, but you can restrict what someone can do with a key.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> usr13: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/linux-headers-2.6.38-12-virtual
[00:50] <rcxking> does anyone know how to install ubuntu 10.04 netbook on a beagleboard?
[00:50] <jimmy_kash> ermo: yeah mr google will provide me with all the info there hopefully
[00:50] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip:  still says I'm do appear to be use nvidia X Driver
[00:50] <ermo> yeah. Good luck :)
[00:51] <ironfoot495> ActI don't appear to be using X driver.
[00:51] <pnorman> If you happen to be transferring large files over high latency high bandwidth links (e.g. Internet2, long 10 gigabit ethernet runs) then scp has some issues which make it hard to use all the bandwidth. not an issue with normal connections
[00:53] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: it says I'm not using X configuratiom
[00:53] <K_F> good <appropriate time of day>
[00:53] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip really stumped!!!!?
[00:54] <chroot> hi, what's mythtv used for?
[00:54] <rawfodog> I have about 40 folders, all with a single file inside each of them. It is very annoying to have to double click into these folders. I was wondering if there was a command to take all these single files from there individual folder and move them into 1 folder
[00:54] <maslen> rawfodog: Write a bash script to mv.
[00:54] <K_F> anyone happen to know if the latex package "adjustbox" is included in any ubuntu package?
[00:55] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: So SCP has a threshold of speed? SOrry maybe I misunderstood
[00:55] <julian_c> chroot: MythTV can be used as a DVR (with the right equipment) and a media player. It's great for HTPC setups.
[00:55] <zabomber> sadf
[00:55] <rawfodog> masen, how would I even itterate through all the folders in a hiearchy like that ?
[00:55] <chroot> julian_c, i want to watch live-tv , is mythtv the best choice?
[00:55] <maslen> K_F: I think `for file in */* ;` would work
[00:56] <brjannc> rawfodog: the following command will find all files in folders under /some/directory and move them to /target/directory: find /some/directory -type f -exec mv \{} /target/directory \;
[00:56] <zykotick9> chroot, myth isn't "easy" to setup - but it is awesome once it's working.
[00:56] <pnorman> jimmy_kash: with certain unusual connection types scp goes slower than it should. it's not an issue for you - it only comes up in rare mainly educational cases
[00:56] <happygolucky> I was having a problem with my new laptop loading any linux--it's a qosmio x775-3dv78, anyway.. turned out that I needed to pass an option at boot to make it skip nouveau frame buffer.. I've been trying live versions of all debian distros including Ubuntu.. The first successful boot into linux I noticed it's not picking up my Atheros wireless card, is there a simple way to get this running without installing the entire Operating Syst
[00:57] <julian_c> chroot: I haven't tried it in a few years, but I believe it can do live TV as well. Just add in a compatible tuner card (OTA or CableCard).
[00:57] <chroot> zykotick9, is there any good live-tv program in ubuntu?
[00:57] <usr13> ironfoot495: Now what is the problem exactly?
[00:57] <zykotick9> chroot, besides mythtv i haven't used anything to view/record tv, so I don't know.
[00:57] <rawfodog> thanks brjannc
[00:57] <jimmy_kash> pnorman: awesome. thx mate.  Hey while I am here - I assume the difference between setting a server up as a proxy vs a VPN for net is that VPN is secure/encrypted?
[00:58] <BaneofHell> Err hello?
[00:58] <brjannc> rawfodog: sure thing
[00:58] <chroot> julian_c, a compatible tuner card is a hardware?
[00:58] <blz> jimmy_kash, the VPN give lan-like properties to those who are connected (roughly speaking)
[00:58] <BaneofHell> :3
[00:58] <ironfoot495> usr13 I reinstall the nvidia drivers and it still says it appears that I'm not using X drivers?
[00:58] <blz> jimmy_kash, the proxy does not
[00:58] <julian_c> chroot: Yes, hardware.
[00:58] <julian_c> Online video streaming would be a different story.
[00:58] <blz> chroot, myth_tv is probably the way to go
[00:58] <LuiCal> ok, the keyboard and mouse crashed again and i had to restart
[00:59] <jimmy_kash> blz: sorry yes.  My wording was probably incorrect.  I understand the use of a VPN has far more to it than a proxy.  I was more meaning for the purpose of just routing your connection
[00:59] <LuiCal> the top command only showed pidgin on top most of the time
[00:59] <chroot> OMG, i think i shouldn't install mythtv, i only have two computers, no other hardware
[00:59] <LuiCal> and xorg
[00:59] <blz> jimmy_kash, ah okay!  that's what I get for butting in =)
[00:59] <LuiCal> what do i do now?
[00:59] <MJ23> Does all DE work the same with compiz? If i configure my compiz settings now and change a DE later, would that fuck it up?
[00:59] <blz> chroot, what exactly are you trying to set up
[00:59] <blz> ?
[00:59] <jimmy_kash> blz: nah mate I appreciate the help - I worded it badly
[00:59] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, and it kept refreshing without a problem?
[01:00] <LuiCal> yep
[01:00] <chroot> blz, no, i want to watch live-tv from internet, but i don't know how?
[01:00] <LuiCal> and the cpu was under 15%
[01:00] <LuiCal> most of the time
[01:00] <blz> chroot, Oh, you want to watch live internet streams, not record live tv?
[01:00] <blz> chroot, in that case go with XBMC
[01:00] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, does another system on the same machine, right now, run flawlessly?
[01:01] <chroot> blz, yes, exactly
[01:01] <ironfoot495> usr_13: I've tried to get  1366x768 to run but it only runs my smaller screen not the 37".
[01:01] <chroot> XBMC?
[01:01] <chroot> what is it used for?
[01:01] <LuiCal> i had windows and it ran without any problems
[01:01] <LuiCal> i also tried kubuntu and xubuntu and the same thing happens
[01:01] <blz> XBMC is a media center application much like Myth TV, but it's centered around local media stores and streaming content rather than DVR (digital video recording) like mythtv
[01:01] <anAngel> Hello. My ubuntu 11.10 don't mount my smb mount points from /etc/fstab at boot. But after it finishes booting and I login as root and execute "mount -a" it does mount the smb mount points from /etc/fstab. How can I make it to mount them automatically at boot time? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
[01:02] <blz> chroot, it depends though.  Do you want to set up a media center application or do you just want a desktop application that can play internet tv streams?
[01:02] <LuiCal> what can i do now?
[01:03] <blz> If you want a full-fledged media center environment, use XBMC.  If you just want to watch the occasional tv stream from your computer, use VLC
[01:03] <chroot> i want a desktop application that i can play internet tv streams?
[01:03] <blz> VLC is probably your best bet, chroot
[01:03] <apwbdjp> LuiCal, I really have no idea, the problem seems between Ubuntu and your PS/2 controller.. You should try with USB
[01:03] <ironfoot495> usr_13: if I boot up with my 17" and take the VGA off and put it on the 37" it will work.
[01:04] <blz> apwbdjp, PS/2?  those still exist ;-)
[01:04] <ironfoot495> it just won't boot with it.
[01:04] <brjannc> anAngel: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab please?
[01:04] <LuiCal> jajajaja
[01:04] <MJ23> Does all DE work the same with compiz? If i configure my compiz settings now and change a DE later, would that fuck it up?
[01:04] <chroot> blz, but vlc can only watch the videos you download from the internet?
[01:04] <blz> chroot, no you can play streams with vlc
[01:04] <chroot> oh, i don't know that, how
[01:04] <LuiCal> any idea of how to check the controllers or something?
[01:05] <blz> chroot,  you'll have to google that.  I don't really use VLC much
[01:05] <blz> other than to play back local media
[01:06] <chroot> ok, thanks
[01:06] <blz> np
[01:07] <anAngel> brjannc: here's my /etc/fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743808/
[01:08] <zykotick9> chroot, looks like mplayer is capable of watching TV as well http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html one of the front-ends might support it?
[01:09] <chroot> zykotick9, ok , i am reading it.
[01:09] <zykotick9> chroot, those are only the cli directions - just wanted to prove it works, i'd check is smplayer or another front end has TV options if i where you
[01:10] <zykotick9> s/is/if/
[01:10] <reisio> anybody using shotwell with piwigo?  How does one manage that?
[01:12] <brjannc> anAngel: hm, looks okay. how is your networking set up on that machine?
[01:12] <chroot> zykotick9, i have read that, but it is not very convenient to use it.
[01:13] <zykotick9> chroot, those are only the cli directions - just wanted to prove it works, i'd check is smplayer or another front end has TV options if i where you
[01:13] <chroot> ok, i  got that.
[01:14] <anAngel> brjannc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743811/
[01:14] <zykotick9> chroot, have you tried: tvtime - television display application
[01:14] <chroot> no, i don't know that.
[01:15] <dave> i have a read only fie system
[01:15] <dave> :/
[01:15] <Guest6873> cant install packages
[01:16] <Minnesotan> anyone help
[01:16] <brjannc> anAngel: okay, so I'm assuming it's wired, and you have no need for networkmanager or anything like that
[01:16] <julian_c> Guest6873: The quickest way to possibly fix that would be to reboot. Probably the safest, too, since it would become obvious right away if there are any disk errors.
[01:16] <chroot> zykotick9, i am installing tvtime,
[01:17] <chroot> Minnesotan, what's your prob
[01:17] <anAngel> brjannc: yeap - it is a server edition btw, not desktop
[01:17] <brjannc> anAngel: (actually, I did just notice one thing in your fstab -- I've never seen backslashes in fstab for smbfs/cifs mounts, I've always seen //server/share instead of \\server\share)
[01:17] <Minnesotan> chroot, my file system is re-only
[01:18] <chroot> Minnesotan, exactly, waht?
[01:18] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, oh, you're dave and Guest6873
[01:18] <Minnesotan> chroot,  the file system is read only, packages cant be installed it seems
[01:18] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, does a restart correct the issue?
[01:19] <Minnesotan> no
[01:19] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, could you pastebin the output of "mount"
[01:19] <chroot> is that you want to install a software in beyond Home dir ?
[01:20] <Minnesotan> another prob is a package will not finish installing Setting up sagan (0.1.9-1) ...
[01:20] <Minnesotan> dpkg --configure -a
[01:20] <worrow> hey whats happening peeps
[01:20] <Minnesotan> i tried that
[01:20] <anAngel> brjannc: i think i have tried both ways. but with //server/share i think it did not boot completely - froze at boot. i can try it but if it freeze at boot i will have access to it after 8 hours. it is not a production machine but even so i cant reach it physically at the moment
[01:20] <Minnesotan> no work
[01:20] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, if your filesystem is read only - you can't make ANY changes
[01:21] <Minnesotan> so is there a fix
[01:21] <blz> Minnesotan, is this an ntfs filesystem?
[01:21] <Minnesotan> i dont know
[01:21] <blz> is it a windows filesystem?
[01:21] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, could you pastebin the output of "mount"
[01:21] <Minnesotan> default install
[01:21] <brjannc> anAngel: understood. you might also try switching the filesystem from smbfs to cifs; smbfs is deprecated
[01:22] <Minnesotan> zykotick9, how i di that
[01:22] <Minnesotan> o
[01:22] <chroot> Minnesotan, maybe you should update your sys completely?
[01:22] <zykotick9> !paste | Minnesotan
[01:22] <blz> Minnesotan, place the output of the mount command in the text box at paste.ubuntu.com and hit submit.  then give us the link
[01:22] <anAngel> brjannc: i initially tried using cifs
[01:22] <Minnesotan> i mean get the mnt info
[01:22] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, open a terminal and type "mount" then paste the output to the site above, then give the channel the link
[01:23] <brjannc> anAngel: Oh? What happened?
[01:23] <anAngel> brjannc: so to sum it up try the other slashes and change the fs
[01:23] <anAngel> brjannc: the same - freeze at boot
[01:23] <Minnesotan> k hols on going to paste
[01:23] <anAngel> brjannc: if my memory is correct
[01:25] <brjannc> anAngel: Weird! My experience has always been that cifs causes *fewer* problems :) Yes, I would try switching to cifs *and* changing the backslashes to slashes; one second though, I want to check if you need to escape the $
[01:26] <Minnesotan> zykotick9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/743821/
[01:27] <aeson> My laptop is using 15.7 W of power. Is this too high?
[01:27] <brjannc> aeson: depends on the laptop and what you're doing :)
[01:27] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, according to that the only read-only file system is /media/QuickConnect which is an ISO or CD
[01:27] <cyanyde> bye
[01:28] <Minnesotan> its running on an installed hardrive
[01:28] <Minnesotan> istalled on a HD
[01:28] <brjannc> anAngel: okay, it looks like the $ is okay as-is. just for completeness's sake, can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[01:28] <robman> morning all
[01:29] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, regarding your failed install issue - perhaps you could try "sudo apt-get -f install" which is a general-fix attempt.
[01:29] <Minnesotan> ok
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> Minnesotan: btw, #ubuntu-us-mn exists for local chit-chat.
[01:29] <aeson> I'm using an acer aspire 4720z dual core laptop.  I'm not doing anything--except for using powertop
[01:30] <Minnesotan> tonyyarusso, u, im not chitcatting im trouble shooting
[01:30] <robman> i know 11.* has moved to thunderbird but I don't want to - so can anyone tell me why system upgrades keep trying to uninstall evolution?!
[01:31] <Minnesotan> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:31] <Minnesotan> iv done that
[01:31] <Minnesotan> dont work
[01:31] <zykotick9> !doesntwork
[01:31] <Minnesotan> grr
[01:31] <Minnesotan> im lettin you know that command dosent work
[01:32] <Minnesotan> that all
[01:32] <DIL> funny bot
[01:32] <zykotick9> Minnesotan, do you get an error?  what doesn't work?
[01:32]  * robman guesses this is a serial channel and he should take a number
[01:32] <Minnesotan> zykotick9,  it just runs an runs with no-output after the command
[01:33] <v2_athome> hello
[01:33] <blz> Minnesotan, not that it should make a difference, but have you rebooted since installing?
[01:33] <Minnesotan> zykotick9, its says Setting up sagan (0.1.9-1) ...
[01:33] <Minnesotan> then its just does nothin
[01:34] <Minnesotan> sagan (0.1.9-1) a broken package?
[01:35] <anAngel> brjannc: here's the dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/743824/
[01:37] <szal> !info sagan
[01:37] <zykotick9> robman, why not just reinstall evolution after the upgrade?  (upgrades are not well tested on ubuntu due to 6 month release schedule)
[01:38] <Minnesotan> ahh-haa Bug#639254: sagan postinst script hangs
[01:38] <robman> zykotick9 - sure I could do...but why do I have to
[01:38] <zykotick9> robman, upgrades are not well tested on ubuntu due to 6 month release schedule
[01:39] <Minnesotan> there a way to kill that postscript install
[01:39] <robman> zykotick9  8( mmmok
[01:39] <friction> where is the MDMP crash file format for linux documented? the files that show up as /tmp/b64---.{tmp,.extra} and tries to submit the dumps to https://support.mozilla.com
[01:40] <friction> i'm seeing this on ubuntu 11.04, there is nothing on the web
[01:40] <friction> it is leaking info from my machine that is private
[01:42] <brjannc> anAngel: Huh. No info from the smbfs driver in dmesg at all, neither success nor failure. I'm stumped. So yeah, my only recommendation is to try cifs with forward slashes instead of backslashes, and if it boots but still doesn't work, check dmesg and see if the cifs driver is squawking
[01:42] <brjannc> anAngel: Sorry I don't have more concrete advice! :\
[01:43] <anAngel> brjannc: thank you very much for your time and advices. it is very appreciated. i am ready to reboot the gw to try with changed slashes and fs. if it boots i will post the result. if i dont - then it froze. again thanks
[01:44] <brjannc> anAngel: Sure thing; good luck! I'll cross my fingers for you :)
[01:44] <mikefmail> Been using Ubuntu for quite a while...got my mates on it...impressed does not go near to covering it
[01:44] <blz> I'm looking to stream my video collection over the internet so that I can access it from outside of my LAN with proper authentication.  What is the recommended way of doing this?
[01:46] <friction> blz google will bury you as competitior, if you are not a consumer you are a competitor
[01:46] <zykotick9> blz, you could check out http://ampache.org/ for audio & video streaming
[01:47] <blz> friction, I don't follow...
[01:47] <friction> nevermind
[01:47] <blz> zykotick9, This seems interesting.  Have you used it?
[01:47] <zykotick9> blz, ya, but not currently - it's been 6months->1year
[01:48] <zykotick9> blz, it even has a built in flash player for video - or can stream to a media player
[01:48] <blz> wow awesome!
[01:48] <blz> this looks like it's *exactly* what i've been looking for
[01:49] <grkblood> how to a stop my laptop screen from going black after 10 minutes?
[01:49] <grkblood> its an issue through my hdmi port
[01:50] <blz> zykotick9, do you know of any handy tutorials for getting this set up on 10.04 or is the documentation good enough?
[01:50] <anAngel> brjannc: thank you very very much - it all worked wonderfully. cifs is mounted and even the lxc container machine has started and the data from the cifs mount visible in it.
[01:50] <brjannc> anAngel: Great! Glad to hear it :)
[01:50] <anAngel> brjannc: i dont know where my mistake was and how i didnt make it experimenting will all kinds of variations
[01:50] <anAngel> brjannc: with *
[01:51] <brjannc> anAngel: I know the feeling all too well :)
[01:52] <zykotick9> blz, sorry no suggestions for tutorials.  It's in the ubuntu-repo for install though.
[01:52] <blz> zykotick9, oh wow, I didn't even think to check
[01:52] <blz> fair enough though
[01:53] <Minnesotan> killing the process worked
[01:53] <Minnesotan> after i found it
[01:53] <Minnesotan> by the way, re-installing Linux is the Linux way to fix problems
[01:53] <Minnesotan> to whom ever told me that
[01:54] <Minnesotan> is not the Linux way
[01:54] <spanther> windows users invade linux :P
[01:54] <blz> zykotick9, last question:  just to be clear, ampache can also stream video, right?  I ask because the description in aptitude search only mentions audio
[01:54] <Minnesotan> yea
[01:54] <Minnesotan> spanther,  hehehe
[01:55] <zykotick9> blz, ya video too - it was a new feature, but i'm 90% sure the ubuntu version does it
[01:55] <Minnesotan> ok, cya all. thnx
[01:55] <blz> zykotick9, alright perfect!  I'll start working on it tomorrow.  In the meantime, bedtime for me!
[01:55] <blz> night everybody
[01:55] <Minnesotan>   
[01:56] <szal>  
[01:57] <spanther> which linux is shipped with acer notebooks? somebody maybe knows? shop only says "Linux" :)
[01:58] <xangua> spanther: ask the shop
[01:59] <fuhrmann> Hi guys, I'm from Brazil and I need to know how is the correct name of the dock that stays in the left in Unity in English.
[01:59] <spanther> they don't know. maybe any insider here knew. just tried hehe :)
[01:59] <brjannc> spanther: Looks like it's a modified version of Linpus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linpus_Linux
[01:59] <skilz> spanther, I'd say Redhat, Debian or Ubuntu.
[02:00] <xangua> fuhrmann: launcher
[02:00] <ceej> hey, can anyone help me with https://gist.github.com/1a816ceba7b040e3549c  ?
[02:00] <fuhrmann> xangua: thanks =)
[02:00] <spanther> brjannc, thanks :D
[02:03] <Hagarenn> hi guys...
[02:03] <Hagarenn> does anybody know if it is possible to share internet from my laptop to my tv using wired connection??
[02:04] <Hagarenn> anybody kwos if i can share my conection from pc to tv?
[02:04] <pangolin> !ics | Hagarenn maybe this has some info
[02:04] <skilz> Hagarenn, Yes you need to 'sudo apt-get install firestarter' and enable internet sharing
[02:05] <skilz> Select the internet device and the network device
[02:05] <zykotick9> ceej, you added the dotdeb repo to ubuntu?
[02:06] <ceej> zykotick9: yee
[02:06] <zykotick9> ceej, mixing repos from different distros isn't the best idea - good luck with your system/issue.
[02:06] <kyubutsu> :o
[02:07] <ceej> zykotick9: should I purge remove dotdeb and install mysql again?
[02:07] <cube> hi, is there similar command to timeout, but that puts restrictions not for the time of execution but on filesystem, i.e kill command if some directory size gets over 1GB ?
[02:09] <zykotick9> ceej, i can't / won't help you
[02:10] <kyubutsu> :(
[02:10] <ceej> zykotick9: np I've just wasted 15 hours so I've given up caring
[02:10] <ceej> ty anyway
[02:10] <skilz> ceej, I don't think anyone will help you with your frankenbuntu issue.
[02:10] <spanther> frankenbuntu lol xD
[02:11] <skilz> ceej, Best option, reinstall and do it the Ubuntu way.
[02:11] <samsul> !polkitd
[02:14] <zykotick9> samsul, fyi you can use "/msg ubottu foo" to get/search for factoids privately
[02:14] <RobotSasquatch> .net
[02:14] <ceej> skilz: I tried…. all types of messed up https://gist.github.com/8b0a2c993d73aa4c4434
[02:15] <Guest56026> hi, i have an opaque window pane over the left side of the screen,anyone know how to get rid of it?
[02:15] <lolnhlsm> press the windows key
[02:15] <lolnhlsm> i believe that should work
[02:15] <samsul> zykotick9; thaks, but i think that not helping me about this "polkitd".
[02:16] <lolnhlsm> it usually goes away if you have a full window up anyway, like firefox
[02:16] <zykotick9> samsul, ya - i went searching for factoids too, and didn't find any.  But i have no idea what "polkitd" is so...
[02:16] <Guest56026> hmm,nope the windows key seem to switch windows,but still there
[02:17] <lolnhlsm> are you on the desktop?
[02:17] <lolnhlsm> all other winows minimized?
[02:17] <brjannc> samsul, zykotick9: polkitd is the PolicyKit daemon
[02:17] <Guest56026> at the moment i have xchat maximised
[02:17] <brightspark> Guest56026, does the window disappear if you ctrl-alt-arrow to another desktop?
[02:17] <samsul> brjannc; thanks, just found my problem here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466794&page=3
[02:18] <lolnhlsm> are you running 11.10?
[02:18] <zykotick9> brjannc, thanks
[02:18] <Guest56026> oh...i just went to the workspace switcher and back to xchat,now its gone
[02:18] <lolnhlsm> well, glad i could help lol >.>
[02:18] <Guest56026> haha,thanks
[02:19] <Guest56026> i need a bit of advice re logins too
[02:19] <lolnhlsm> shoot
[02:19] <Guest56026> at the moment i'm logged in as admin,isn't that unsafe?
[02:19] <juan_> aptitude shows all entries twice once installed and once uninstalled I think it's because I had a duplicated entry in /etc/apt/sources.lst when I first installed but I've fixed that and run aptitude clean and apt-cache clean
[02:20] <lolnhlsm> well the original account you make is admin automatically
[02:20] <brightspark> Guest56026, do you mean as root or simply as someone on the sudoers list?  the former is unsafe, the latter not as much.
[02:20] <Guest56026> should i create another login for general use?
[02:20] <lolnhlsm> the unsafe part about being an admin is have the ability to run things in root
[02:21] <lolnhlsm> and running things in root is what gives you the ability to change the programs on your OS among other things
[02:21] <lolnhlsm> when you get asked for a passwork to install something, for example
[02:21] <zykotick9> Guest56026, you're use of "admin" makes it unclear who you're logged in as.  In a terminal "whoami" does it say root or a your user name?
[02:21] <Guest56026> i made the blue of loggin in as guest b4 and lost all the changes i made in here as a result(didn't know it won't save)..:)
[02:21] <flacontheflyer> hello everybody
[02:22] <lolnhlsm> i run in admin all the time, its running things as root that can be a bit dangerous
[02:22] <lolnhlsm> if you  dont know what your doing
[02:22] <lolnhlsm> this account im in right now is admin
[02:23] <Guest56026> well,i soitenly don't know wot i'm doin,but i was just trying to maximise security,privacy..:)
[02:23] <flacontheflyer> actually i have problem with my display, i am using viewsonic 17" lcd monitor, and it seems that ubuntu cann't recognise it, so my resolution is very poor
[02:23] <flacontheflyer> how can i cure it?
[02:23] <lolnhlsm> this is a blind shot but have you pressed the auto config button on the display?
[02:23] <zykotick9> flacontheflyer, what video card are you using?  if unsure "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal.
[02:24] <flacontheflyer> i am using mercury motherboard with inbuilt video card
[02:25] <Guest56026> so i'm ok?.....admin on windoze is a no-no..
[02:25] <jepong> flacontheflyer, xrandr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:25] <flacontheflyer> yea i try to detect by detect display but ubuntu unable
[02:25] <brightspark> Guest56026, what does it say when you type "whoami" into the terminal?
[02:25] <worrow> need some help with banshee app
[02:26] <lolnhlsm> i'd recommend using rhythmbox, i had a lot of issues with banshee :/
[02:26] <Guest56026> lo
[02:26] <lolnhlsm> wasn't my cup of tea
[02:27] <Guest56026> loln
[02:27] <lolnhlsm> yes?
[02:27] <worrow> rhythmbox has issues with the required plugins
[02:27] <zykotick9> lolnhlsm, Banshee also suffers from mono ;)
[02:27] <Guest56026> thank you...
[02:27] <eusid> yo guys I just got an ubuntu 10.10 maverick vps it wont let me edit the sudo file even as root...any help?
[02:27] <lolnhlsm> oh, no problem
[02:27] <lolnhlsm> lol
[02:27] <imbezol> eusid: visudo
[02:27] <Guest56026> sorry,just bumbling arouind here..:)
[02:27] <eusid> yes
[02:27] <lolnhlsm> have you updated plugins?
[02:27] <eusid> visudo
[02:27] <brjannc> eusid: you need to use the visudo command
[02:27] <eusid> wont let me edit it
[02:27] <zykotick9> eusid, why edit that file?
[02:27] <worrow> I do like rhythmbox aside from the button at the bottom says unable to import 83 sings. click install for required plugin. Install button does nothing
[02:27] <imbezol> eusid: sudo visudo
[02:28] <eusid> even as root?
[02:28] <brjannc> ack, I'm just an echo, ignore me :)
[02:28] <zykotick9> eusid, if you need to add a user to sudo just add them to the admin group - or are you doing something else?
[02:28] <eusid> I have to sudo as root
[02:28] <eusid> well the group it has is %sudo
[02:28] <eusid> not admin
[02:28] <eusid> I wanted to change it to admin
[02:28] <eusid> and I wanted to add user
[02:28] <FloodBot1> eusid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <lolnhlsm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:28] <lolnhlsm> see if thats what your looking for
[02:28] <lolnhlsm> well damn
[02:29] <zykotick9> eusid, are you sure you're using ubuntu and not debian?  debian uses the sudo group.
[02:29] <jimmy_kash> is ther a way to make a shortcommand for a shell command I use regularly?  By this I mean a quick way to type a long command i regularly use
[02:29] <jrib> jimmy_kash: alias
[02:29] <jimmy_kash> jrbib: thnks man.  Bit more info?
[02:30] <kyubutsu> man alias
[02:30] <brightspark> jimmy_kash, in your .bashrc file at the end there are alias lines
[02:30] <alexeyy> How to now my video adapter model?
[02:30] <jimmy_kash> jrib: or should I google it
[02:30] <zykotick9> alexeyy, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:30] <jimmy_kash> brightspark: thanks awesome ill suss it
[02:30] <eusid> no not what I am looking for. the file comes up by visudo but it is unwritable Im guessing from root I need to chdmod the privs?
[02:30] <jrib> jimmy_kash: alias foo='bar'
[02:31] <imbezol> eusid: it's a read only file.. but as root you can still write to it. When you're done editting use :wq!
[02:31] <lolnhlsm> hey, does anybody out there know what ubuntu's marketing plan for 12.04 is, if any?
[02:31] <eusid> alias to exec long commands quickly, bash script to execute a series of actions from a file
[02:31] <jimmy_kash> jrib: solid - thank you !
[02:31] <eusid> ahh wq! okay thats what I was looking for I believe thank you I will try it
[02:31] <lolnhlsm> because they plan to reach 200 million users in 4-5 years, and im sketchy about that
[02:31] <xangua> lolnhlsm: you'll see on 5 months ;)
[02:31] <alexeyy> zykotick9, nVidia Corporation Device 1051 - ??
[02:31] <lolnhlsm> >..
[02:31] <LucasCampos> Hello there. I guess I screwed my files big time . Does anyone know how to automatically fix a filename like Herbie Mann & Jo��o Gilberto with Antonio Carlos Jobim ?
[02:31] <zykotick9> lolnhlsm, not gonna happen - ubuntu is dropping like a rock on distro watch right now
[02:32] <lolnhlsm> no kidding?
[02:32] <brightspark> jimmy_kash, you will need to add that line to your .bashrc if you want it to apply to all terminals, else it will only persist until you close that terminal
[02:32] <kyubutsu> nicely put, brightspark
[02:33] <lolnhlsm> you have any idea's why that is?
[02:33] <zykotick9> lolnhlsm, as in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[02:33] <brightspark> kyubutsu, thanks.  we aim to please.
[02:33] <kyubutsu> ;)
[02:33] <eusid> I don't use vim as my normal editor Im a fairly new python guy so I actually am using jetbrains python ide for its django support very good for dev with django
[02:34] <Chilaquiles> hello, I use Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome3 and I would like to know how can I hibernate my laptop?
[02:34] <brjannc> eusid: for reference, visudo uses whatever your EDITOR environment variable is; so if you ran e.g. EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano visudo, it would use nano instead
[02:34] <eusid> thank you much imbezol
[02:35] <eusid> brjannc: yeah I am familiar with that command and setting an editor unfortunately it doesnt have nano so I will have to install. however I don't see why it wont let me write as root and even opening it with gedit will not allow me to save it
[02:36] <xangua> Chilaquiles: clic on the power indicator, select hibernate
[02:36] <eusid> I know vim is the answer but without me learning basically another language what is the best terminal edit that I could use on my server?
[02:37] <imbezol> eusid: sudo chmod u+w /etc/sudoers; sudo nano /etc/sudoers; sudo chmod -w /etc/sudoers
[02:37] <brightspark> here's a question.  At the bottom of the login screen (10.10, but probably others too) there are menus to change the session and keyboard layout.  How do I remove keyboard layouts that no longer reflect my hardware from this list?
[02:37] <imbezol> eusid: or whatever editor.. you get the idea
[02:37] <ceej> is there any way to get rid of Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[02:38] <imbezol> eusid: or you skip all the sudo crap and just become root
[02:38] <Chilaquiles> unity sux!!
[02:39] <pnorman> eusid: if it doesn't have nano, does it have pico?
[02:39] <sasori> how to change permission of a directory + files + all it's subdirctories in one command /
[02:40] <jrib> sasori: what directory?
[02:40] <lolnhlsm> does anybody know how i can run two conky scripts at the same time?
[02:40] <zykotick9> jrib, i was afraid to ask ;)
[02:40] <sasori> e.g /var/root
[02:40] <lolnhlsm> one for system stats, the other for rss feeds. i have one for system stats right now, i just dont know how to run two at the same time
[02:40] <sasori> is it chmod 0777 /var/root -R ? or it's something else ?
[02:41] <xangua> sasori: sound's like a really bad idea
[02:41] <jrib> sasori: the point is that people that ask this question usually end up breaking there install and having to reinstall.  Can you tell us with more details what you want to do?
[02:41] <jrib> their*
[02:41] <sasori> i want to edit all the files inside the www, without having to go sudo -i mode..it's annoying
[02:41] <skilz> lolnhlsm,  'conky /path/to/conkyrc1' and 'conky /path/to/conkyrc2'
[02:42] <lolnhlsm> am i putting that in a terminal or in a single script or what
[02:42] <imbezol> sasori: just become root
[02:43] <imbezol> sasori: when you edit and save a file, it will retain it's ownership and permissions
[02:43] <skilz> lolcat, Or, 'conky /path/to/conkyrc1 & conky /path/to/conkyrc2 &' all one command
[02:43] <skilz> terminal
[02:43] <skilz> or you can write a script, please yourself...
[02:43] <zykotick9> imbezol, "sudo -i" is a root shell - they find that too "annoying"
[02:43] <imbezol> sasori: if the files belonged to www-data, for example, they still will after you edit them as root
[02:44] <imbezol> zykotick9: i would too if i was editting a huge number of files
[02:44] <jimmy_kash> I am trying to use screen via Putty.  I hit CTRL+A+C and it does nothing.  Am special or what could be wrong?
[02:44] <imbezol> zykotick9: i think sudo has it's place.. but it's not always the best way
[02:44] <zykotick9> imbezol, do you know what "sudo -i" does?
[02:45] <imbezol> zykotick9: it's in the man file, yes
[02:45] <brightspark> is there a difference, functionally speaking, between "sudo -i" and "sudo su"?
[02:45] <mmv> and sudo su -
[02:45] <jrib> brightspark: yes
[02:45] <zykotick9> brightspark, yes, use "sudo -i"
[02:45] <sasori> what i don't understand with linux is, am currently logged-in the computer, ofcourse, and i can use all the necessary stuff to use..but when i tried to edit a file inside that folder, using vim, it says read only,which i think is a real hassle, that's why i wanna have permission
[02:46] <mmv> sasori: what file?
[02:46] <sasori> the /var/www
[02:46] <sasori> as i said above
[02:46] <zykotick9> mmv, that's probably close to sudo -i, but i still wouldn't use it
[02:46] <jrib> sasori: are you the only user editing them?
[02:46] <zykotick9> sasori, actually you kept saying /var/root above
[02:46] <jimmy_kash> Anybody able to help with screen?
[02:46] <sasori> yes am the only one..it's a dev machine for myself only
[02:46] <mmv> jimmy_kash: sure
[02:46] <skilz> sasori, Edit the file with su vim /var/www/file
[02:46] <mmv> sasori: add yourself to the group that owns them
[02:46] <jrib> sasori: so just change ownership of /var/www to your user (chown -R $USER /var/www)
[02:46] <imbezol> zykotick9: you're paranoid of your own system
[02:47] <zykotick9> jimmy_kash, i'd try to find some Putty help with that actually
[02:47] <jimmy_kash> mmv: Thanks mate.  I am using putty and hitting CTRL+A+C and it does nothing
[02:47] <jimmy_kash> zykotick9: SO its putty, not the server?
[02:47] <imbezol> zykotick9: do a sudo su -, then a "set > test".. then do a sudo -i -u root, and do the same thing "set > test2"
[02:47] <imbezol> zykotick9: then diff test test2
[02:47] <mmv> jimmy_kash: ctrl-ac or ctrl-AC?
[02:47] <brightspark> zykotick9, is there an occasion there "sudo su" is appropriate?  I've always been referred to that as the means to get more persistent root priveleges.
[02:47] <zykotick9> brightspark, the correct way is "sudo -i"
[02:48] <jimmy_kash> mmv: You mean holding shift?
[02:48] <jimmy_kash> mmv: sorry if I am being a massive noob
[02:48] <kyubutsu> !screen > kyubutsu
[02:49] <mmv> jimmy_kash: yeah...so does Ctrl-a ?  not get you anywhere?
[02:49] <jimmy_kash> mmv: it does nothing
[02:49] <zykotick9> jimmy_kash, you do need to hold down ctrl+a then press d/c type thing -- all together
[02:49] <mmv> jimmy_kash: jimmy_kash are you sure you're in screen?
[02:49] <jrib> brightspark: there are two issue.  There's 'su -' vs 'su' (or in the sudo context: sudo -i vs. sudo -s) and there is another issue: sudo -i vs. sudo su -.  The first distinction is pretty important as one version resets the environment and the other doesn't.  For the second issue, I don't know of a significant reason other than "sudo -i exists so why not use it"
[02:49] <sasori> here's another thing..i can see on the terminal sasori@mymachine:~$ ..when i tried chown -R sasori /var/www , it says, Operation not permitted.. arggh
[02:49] <mmv> jimmy_kash: echo $TERM should say screen
[02:49] <kyubutsu> you wont know til you press z
[02:50] <brjannc> brightspark: here's a nice reference to the differences between sudo su - and sudo -i: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[02:50] <mmv> sasori: just use groups man...
[02:50] <jrib> sasori: pastebin
[02:50] <jimmy_kash> mmv: i am going to hide under a rock now... i am a tard and hadn't realised I wasnt in screen.  Please know my shame
[02:50] <brightspark> jrib, brjannc, thanks very much.
[02:51] <mmv> jimmy_kash: fill your .screenrc with something, so you get handy bar at bottom :), mine has two lines 'hardstatus alwayslastline
[02:51] <kyubutsu> better yet, try detaching. sure way to find out
[02:51] <mmv> hardstatus string '%{= }%-Lw%50>%n%f* %t%+Lw%< %-=%D %d %M %Y %c:%s%{-}'
[02:51] <brjannc> brightspark: sure thing :)
[02:51] <sasori> how to do the command line for adding myself to group thing ?
[02:51] <brjannc> mmv: *goes to try that*
[02:52] <ouyes> hi guys, I do not know , I update my system nearly every day, but it seems the kernel never was updated, uname -a
[02:52] <ouyes> Linux ouyes-laptop 2.6.32-24-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 14:17:33 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux, why?
[02:52] <brjannc> mmv: Ooh, I like that. Man, why have I never done that before
[02:53] <jrib> brjannc: because you use tmux instead?
[02:53] <kyubutsu> sasori: < jrib> sasori: so just change ownership of /var/www to your  user (chown -R $USER /var/www)
[02:53] <zykotick9> sasori, i believe "sudo usermod -aG www-data sasori" might work for you
[02:53] <brjannc> jrib: haha ;)
[02:53] <mmv> brjannc: screen is good, C-a A to change each windows title at the bottom :)
[02:53] <jrib> zykotick9: my guess is his files are owned by root:root
[02:54] <zykotick9> jrib, QUITE possible ;)
[02:54] <brjannc> mmv: oh, I use screen all the time. I just have never bothered to actually configure it to be, well, friendly. :) thanks for the tip!
[02:56] <sasori> zykotick9: i tried that...after it, i typed cat > test.php ..permission denied  :S
[02:57] <zykotick9> sasori, did you log out / back in?
[02:57] <mmv> zykotick9: he can also run 'newgrp www-data'
[02:57] <mmv> zykotick9: it'll only be valid for that terminal instance, but it saves relogging back in
[02:58] <zykotick9> sasori, or see mmv's suggestion above.  But typical group membership gets applied at login.
[02:58] <skilz> I have a IBM Thinkpad G40 and I cannot use the Volume +/- or Mute keys, When I run xev and press the keys they are not detected and I cannot find anything about it on the thinkwiki page.
[02:58] <sasori> am not on sudo -i mode, when i typed the sudo usermod -ag ww-data sasori, so it asked for pword...after logging the pword, i went to /var/www and did, vim test.php..and arghh..read only file
[03:00] <zykotick9> sasori, if you use -ag then you might have just messed up your account a big - i said -aG and YES case makes a difference.  Good luck, hope you didn't break things for your account.
[03:00] <zykotick9> s/big/bit/
[03:02] <froes>  hi guys. i am having a problem with my video output from my card. i have an nvidia card and i am using it`s hdmi out. but there seems to be a problem. it seems to be bigger than the TV. is there a way of inserting a marging on the screeen or maybe resize the screen to a smaller size? cant see any menus or status bars.
[03:02] <sasori> yes i did typed -aG, i only had typo error here on irc channel :S
[03:03] <brightspark> Anyone got an idea on this:  At the bottom of the login screen (10.10, but probably others too) there are menus to change the session and keyboard layout.  How do I remove keyboard layouts that no longer reflect my hardware from this list?
[03:11] <damooseisloose> hey does anyone here have experience with smartmontools? i ran some tests and i'm having trouble interpreting the results
[03:13] <brjannc> damooseisloose: sure, ask away
[03:13] <HulkHogan> anyone using centerim? is AIM working?
[03:14] <brjannc> damooseisloose: might be easier to talk about if you pastebin the output of smartctl -a /dev/whatever
[03:14] <damooseisloose> http://pastebin.com/HpGLD03P :)
[03:14] <din> HulkHogan: not using centerim, but i'm connected to aim.
[03:14] <brjannc> damooseisloose: *high-five*
[03:15] <damooseisloose> i know one of my partitions is corrupt but i am so confused as to what i should do next
[03:16] <brjannc> damooseisloose: well, smartmontools is having some trouble with some of the smart parameters for your drive, so that's kind of a bummer
[03:17] <mmv> damooseisloose: what makes you think it's corrupt?
[03:17]  * mmv wonders what a corrupt partition, is
[03:18] <damooseisloose> ok well i have a partition with windows 7 and i cant boot into it
[03:18] <Guest77149> hi
[03:18] <damooseisloose> and when i load ubuntu it complains about that partition
[03:19] <keithclark> I only get sound to my headphones and not my speakers, any ideas on how to correct?
[03:19] <damooseisloose> i/o errors or something its too fast for me to write down
[03:19] <mmv> damooseisloose: paste output of dmesg, too
[03:19] <brjannc> damooseisloose: yeah, smart is reported uncorrectable read errors and relocated sectors; your drive is in the process of failing, most likely
[03:19] <brjannc> reporting*
[03:20] <jimmy_kash> is there a way to [ass variables to an "Alias" command
[03:20] <jimmy_kash> *pass
[03:20] <somsip> jimmy_kash: wrap them in a function?
[03:21] <jimmy_kash> somsip: lets say I made an alias to do an SCP to the same server always, same user, same directory, but the file I am SCPing is different
[03:22] <jimmy_kash> somsip: or would that just be easier using a script
[03:23] <damooseisloose> ok im kind of a noob, how do i get dmesg to give me the output about the drive?
[03:23] <brjannc> damooseisloose: just pastebin the whole thing :) dmesg | pastebinit
[03:24] <damooseisloose> oh ok i was just concerned cause it looked way tooo long
[03:24] <worrow> is there a way to organize synamptic package manager by installed packages so I can remove the unsupported ones?
[03:24] <somsip> jimmy_kash: well you could create a script, put it in ~/local/bin and make an alias for it, or you could write a bash function. Neither way is wrong, as such
[03:25] <worrow> software manager is so slwo
[03:25] <worrow> slow*
[03:25] <jimmy_kash> somsip: thanks mate
[03:26] <damooseisloose> http://pastebin.com/Jwu93wbG
[03:26] <skilz> why can I load snd_pcm_mixer?
[03:27] <skilz> Sorry snd_mixer_oss or snd_pcm_oss rather
[03:27] <worrow> anyone got an answer for m
[03:27] <ahoneybun> any good wiki to use bazaar and launchpad to work on applications for Ubuntu?
[03:28] <brjannc> damooseisloose: is the drive clicking, by any chance?
[03:30] <damooseisloose> i havent heard any out of the ordinary noises
[03:30] <damooseisloose> yeah i guess it is clicking
[03:31] <Flynsarmy> this keyboard doesn't have home or end buttons. is it possible to map F10 as home and F11 as end?
[03:31] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Adele - Someone Like You] CeBoLiNhA 2011
[03:31] <brjannc> damooseisloose: Yeah, your drive is failing. My advice is to avoid turning the system off, and get as much data off of it as you can
[03:32] <damooseisloose> alright thats what I was afraid of
[03:32] <zykotick9> skilz, see if ubuntu has some OSS compatibility package(s) of some sort - for instance debian has oss-compat
[03:32] <damooseisloose> thank you so much
[03:32] <brjannc> damooseisloose: sure thing, sorry I didn't have better news
[03:32] <damooseisloose> by any chance has anyone here had any experience with lenovo customer support?
[03:32] <damooseisloose> because ive only had this laptop for 2 months
[03:33] <zykotick9> damooseisloose, you might want to ask in ##hardware ?  good luck.
[03:33] <damooseisloose> alright ill ask them there
[03:34] <hemangpatel> hiii there
[03:34] <damooseisloose> thanks again
[03:34] <hemangpatel> is there any irc channel based on LINUX
[03:34] <Zeranoe> Hello, I'm using OSS on ubuntu and I'm wondering if I can use the volume manager with it, what is the volume manager for ubuntu? I would like to avoid using ossxmix
[03:34] <worrow> I need some help. Is someone available?
[03:34] <zykotick9> hemangpatel, ##linux ?
[03:34] <hemangpatel> OK zykotick9
[03:34] <brightspark> At the bottom of the login screen (10.10, but probably others too) there are menus to change the session and keyboard layout.  How do I remove keyboard layouts that no longer reflect my hardware from this list?
[03:35] <worrow> who is skilled with using synaptics package manager?
[03:35] <pythonirc1011>  I've an ubuntu guest VM on virtual vox, which i've guest additions on...for some reason, it wont expand to the largest size of my screen...it used to work till i upgraded to 4.1.6 vbox. Any one else has seen this problem?
[03:35] <worrow> synaptic skills anyone??
[03:35] <zykotick9> pythonirc1011, did you reinstall the guest additions after upgrading vbox?
[03:36] <aeon-ltd> worrow: just ask the actual question
[03:36] <pythonirc1011> zykotick9: yes
[03:36] <lorddelta> worrow: What do you want to know?
[03:36] <lorddelta> worrow: I'm not amazing, but I keep it around
[03:37] <keithclark> Anyone know why sound comes out of my headphones and not my speakers?
[03:37] <pythonirc1011> zykotick9: ah my guest compilation failed
[03:37] <lorddelta> keithclark: Maybe because they're plugged in?
[03:37] <pythonirc1011> kernel headers missing
[03:37] <pythonirc1011> what can i apt-get?
[03:37] <Flynsarmy> this keyboard doesn't have home or end buttons. is it possible to map ctrl+- as home and ctrl++ as end?
[03:37] <keithclark> lorddelta, funny.....
[03:38] <zykotick9> keithclark, if it's a laptop - it's a serious question
[03:38] <aeon-ltd> keithclark: no really
[03:38] <lorddelta> keithclark: I do not think there is a way to override the audio output, if you do ever find a way, let me know
[03:39] <keithclark> zykotick9, of course I unplugged my headphones
[03:39] <zykotick9> keithclark, then open your volume control and verify that nothing is muted, and everything is turned up
[03:39] <keithclark> lorddelta, I'm not sure I understand here.  I can only use headphones?
[03:40] <lorddelta> keithclark: If that doesn't work, try installing alsamixer and running it...it may be the volume is muting itself (its happened to me before).
[03:40] <hemangpatel> got error when i join ##linux "##linux Cannot send to channel"
[03:40] <zykotick9> !register | hemangpatel
[03:40] <lorddelta> keithclark: AFAIK you can only output to either the speakers, or to the headphones, not both at the same time. But if your audio works correctly, it should switch when you plug/unplug the headphones.
[03:40] <keithclark> lorddelta, In my Sound Settings, Output only has two options.  Both are for headphones
[03:41] <k0d3g3ar> ne1 know what happened to the karmic content in the universe repositories?
[03:41] <zykotick9> k0d3g3ar, karmic koala you mean?  see "/msg ubottu eol"
[03:41] <lorddelta> keithclark: What is your system info? (Control Panel -> System Info)
[03:42] <skilz> zykotick9, oss-compat is already installed
[03:42] <brightspark> worrow, in Synaptic, go to Settings>Filters.  Select Search Filter in the left pane, and check ONLY the box marked Installed on the Status tab.  Then close that window, click Custom Filters on the bottom left of the main window, and select Search Filter from the list above it.
[03:42] <k0d3g3ar> zykotick9, yes, karmic koala.  There is nothing showing for it in the Universe repos
[03:42] <zykotick9> !karmic | k0d3g3ar
[03:43] <k0d3g3ar> zykotick9,  ok, but why is Hardy still there?
[03:43] <keithclark> lorddelta, what would you like to know from system info?
[03:43] <zykotick9> k0d3g3ar, lts
[03:43] <lorddelta> keithclark: Just checking you're running 11.04/11.10
[03:43] <keithclark> lorddelta, 11.10
[03:43] <k0d3g3ar> zykotick9, and why is it that I can get packages up to about 3 hours ago, and then it stopped?  I'm just trying to re-install mysql
[03:44] <zykotick9> k0d3g3ar, that i can't answer
[03:44] <skilz> zykotick9, What im trying to do is get 'tpb' (Thinkpad Buttons) to work on my IBM Thinkpad to use the special volume keys, I have tpb working but the volume keys don't change the volume, I need it to control PCM somehow. Please take a look at http://www.nongnu.org/tpb/doc/tpb.1.html
[03:44] <k0d3g3ar> anyone else?
[03:44] <hemangpatel> how i login in freenode channel any example plz ??
[03:44] <hemangpatel> command ?
[03:44] <zykotick9> skilz, i have no idea man - good luck.
[03:45] <skilz> zykotick9, I usually use alsamixer to change the volume but I think my system is using pulseaudio.
[03:45] <urlin2u> k0d3g3ar, various packages come from different repos.
[03:45] <hemangpatel> & where i enter that command
[03:45] <k0d3g3ar> urlin2u, of course they do
[03:45] <zykotick9> skilz, alsamixer should still work i believe
[03:45] <lorddelta> keithclark: Do you know how to operate a terminal? If so, 'sudo apt-get install alsa-utils'
[03:45] <brightspark> hemangpatel, "/join #channel"
[03:45] <k0d3g3ar> urlin2u, that's not my point.  Mysql should be in Universe repos.  But the entire Universe repos have disappeared as of 2 hours ago
[03:45] <hemangpatel> brightspark : ok
[03:45] <brightspark> hemangpatel, in the field where you normally type replies to channel
[03:45] <hemangpatel> then ?
[03:45] <skilz> zykotick9, Yeah it does, but I think tpb is trying to control oss not pulseaudio or alsa
[03:46] <urlin2u> k0d3g3ar, thats what you get when you use a oel confusion. :D
[03:46] <zykotick9> skilz, if tpb is trying to control OSS - it's WAY outdated.  Good luck.
[03:46] <urlin2u> eol*
[03:46] <k0d3g3ar> urlin2u,  you are of no help
[03:46] <urlin2u> k0d3g3ar, your asking stupid questions I was not trying.
[03:46] <keithclark> lorddelta, yes
[03:47] <hemangpatel> brightspark : what command i type for login ?
[03:47] <skilz> zykotick9, Yeah it is
[03:48] <lorddelta> keithclark: It would also be helpful to run 'sudo cat /proc/asound/cards'
[03:48] <keithclark> lorddelta, alsa-utils already installed
[03:48] <lorddelta> And pastebin the output.
[03:48] <skilz> The only option in it is this -m, --mixer=STATE
[03:48] <skilz> Use OSS mixer to change volume and for mute/unmute. This should be use on models with no hardware mixer (volume and mute buttons show no effect). R31 is reported to have no hardware mixer. To use this you must enable write access to the NVRAM device (possibly dangerous). Possible values are on and off. Default is off.
[03:48] <lorddelta> keithclark: What is the output of 'sudo cat /proc/asound/cards'
[03:49] <brightspark> hemangpatel, what are you trying to do?  To enter a given channel, use the /join command.
[03:49] <skilz> zykotick9, When I load tpb its loaded with -m off default but the volume does not change
[03:49] <hemangpatel> yes i enter into ## linux
[03:49] <zykotick9> skilz, i'm sorry i've never used tpb before - i'm no help to you.  good luck.
[03:50] <hemangpatel> but i send any text it says "##linux Cannot send to channel"
[03:50] <brightspark> hemangpatel, then you should type "/join ##linux" in the same field you are using to talk to me
[03:50] <keithclark> lorddelta, pastbin'ing.....internet connection is slow tonight.  I am upgrading another computer here at the same time as troubleshooting this one.
[03:50] <zykotick9> hemangpatel, you need to register your nick - why i sent you the !register factoid a little while ago
[03:50] <lorddelta> keithclark: Ok...is there some output, such as and HDA-Intel card, or somesuch?
[03:51] <lorddelta> keithclark: s/and HDA-Intel/an HDA-Intel/
[03:51] <keithclark> lorddelta, ATI IXP and ATIIXP-MODEM
[03:51] <xangua> !register | brightspark
[03:52] <brightspark> xangua, thanks.  I thought he was asking how to join a channel, not how to register a nickname.
[03:53] <lorddelta> keithclark: Ok, run 'alsamixer', and let me know if there are any bars that are not up the entire way...if that doesn't work we will try something else in a minute
[03:54] <keithclark> lorddelta, Master, 100.  Headphone 100, PCM 87, LIne 0, CD 0, Mic 0
[03:56] <lorddelta> keithclark: Ok, try using the arrow keys to move to "line", press the up arrow key to increase volume. Also hit F6 and verify that your sound card is selected, as found in the previous 'sudo cat /proc/asound/cards'
[03:56] <neednewnick> saSAs
[03:58] <keithclark> lorddelta, 'line' volume increase did nothing.  F6 only shows the same two devices as before.  I believe the modem.
[03:59] <hdpb> Is it possible/advisable to use an external HD as /home?
[03:59] <renosis> I am running Ubuntu, and I have this issue where, sometimes when I try to go to locations in the file system, it brings up a message "failed to load the file /media/STORAGE/" for example... when trying to access a storage hard drive, or say from the web browser, a download, if I right click and select show in folder, this same message will appear, only of course with the location changed to my /home/username/downloads folder
[03:59] <yagoo> hdpb, ya
[03:59] <renosis> then it opens an inkscape window
[03:59] <zykotick9> hdpb, it's certainly possible, but would cause issues if it wasn't attached so it's advisability is really up to you
[04:00] <renosis> so, I assume it is trying to open these locations in inkscape for some odd reason
[04:00] <lorddelta> keithclark: When you use F6, does it show that your ATI IXP card is indeed selected? If not, go ahead and select that device (or if ATIIXP Modem is the correct device, choose that instead)
[04:00] <renosis> I checked file associations and they all point to appropriate programs, I think
[04:00] <yagoo> hdpb, i would suggest not to do that. Cuse if you use different versions of a program on another computer, you can get application's overwriting earlier-version setting formats
[04:01] <keithclark> lorddelta, selecting ATIIXP worked!
[04:01] <yagoo> hdpb, (i'm talking about the ~/.<appsetting> folders/files getting overwritten)
[04:01] <lorddelta> keithclark: If it helps any in terms of confusion this is what a correct configuration should look like: http://imgur.com/x3YZp
[04:01] <lorddelta> keithclark: Glad to hear it. :)
[04:01] <yagoo> hdpb, also the userid permissions can differ
[04:02] <keithclark> lorddelta, why would this happen?
[04:02] <termitor> hi
[04:02] <hdpb> I have an old desktop that needs to be put to rest. the plan would be to add the HD to my laptop and leave it connected. other suggestions?
[04:02] <keithclark> Is is a problem on every reboot?
[04:02] <yagoo> hdpb, ^ another reason why it makes no sense to have an external hd for home
[04:02] <yagoo> hdpb, if you setup nfs.. you can setup permissions more efficiently..
[04:03] <termitor> i'm searching for a tools thas automated sort of files and folders based on rules, somebody know a program like that ? (sorry for my bad englishà
[04:03] <hdpb> Secondly, need to reinstall Vista (for work purposes) on the laptop. Anything I should know going in?
[04:04] <keithclark> lorddelta, Also thanks!  Appreciate the help here!
[04:05] <lorddelta> keithclark: No, I don't know the answer. I would suspect it is a misconfiguration in your alsa configuration (you will need to readup on alsa configuration if you wish to solve this problem yourself, I'm not very knowledgeable in that area). In 11.04 there was a considerable amount of instability regarding this, 11.10 seems to have cleared this up. It usually should clear up on a reboot. If not, I suggest opening a ticket, or seeking hardware help on the 
[04:05] <keithclark> lorddelta, Thanks!
[04:05] <lorddelta> keithclark: I've also noticed that occasionally sound crashes seem to turn the volume to zero, but that's speculative on my part.
[04:05] <lorddelta> keithclark: you're welcome.
[04:07] <zizoo> Hey guys. Any help running a .jar file from my Windows partition?
[04:08] <keithclark> lorddelta, Could this be a Gnome 3 vs. Unity issue?  I've chosen to use Gnome 3.
[04:08] <linuxuz3r> bios reboots after i shutdown 11.10 and boot the computer again
[04:08] <linuxuz3r> how should i fix this in 11.10
[04:08] <Skummel> zizoo shouldn't be any harder then running it from your home directory
[04:09] <zizoo> Well, it says it's not executable, and it won't let me make it executable.
[04:09] <ahoneybun> zizoo, I run minecraft.jar from the terminal with "java -jar minecraft.jar" so just move the folder with the jar file in it
[04:09] <lorddelta> keithclark: Euh, I shouldn't think so. I don't use either gnome3 or Unity, and I've experienced similar problems. Occasionally settings take a logout-reboot to stabilize.
[04:09] <ahoneybun> zizoo, oh well go to the folder with the jar file and
[04:09] <renosis> ah, nevermind, I figured it out~!
[04:10] <keithclark> lorddelta, thanks.
[04:10] <ahoneybun> zizoo, enter "sudo chmod a+x *jar file name*.jar"
[04:11] <zizoo> I don't keep a lot of space on my linux OS partition. I try to keep everything in a special partition that both OSes can see. Also, that does not work. It claims to, but ls -l reveals no change.
[04:11] <zykotick9> ahoneybun, trying to apply POSIX permission on a windows partition is useless, it won't work. zizoo
[04:11] <zizoo> But separate, so I can reinstall either OS if I screw something up....
[04:11] <zizoo> So technically, it is another partition altogether, actually.
[04:11] <ahoneybun> zykotick9, moving the location in terminal and doing it to the file from the linux will not work?
[04:12] <zykotick9> ahoneybun, that would work - so long as it's on an linux partition.
[04:13] <ahoneybun> zykotick9, move the file from the window partition to the linux one and change the permissions from there
[04:13] <zizoo> Is there any way to remount my data partition so that I can execute .jar files, perchance?
[04:13] <zykotick9> ahoneybun, i'm surprised the foo.jar would need to be set executable actually, if you use "java -jar foo.jar" - but i don't use java apps much.
[04:14] <doctorZeus> is there a preferred filesystem type I should format drives for in preparation for a raid5 array using mdadm?  Will be storing mostly large media files
[04:14] <ahoneybun> zykotick9, true, my minecraft.jar file is not set for executable as well
[04:14] <zizoo> Oh, I was trying to do something else, come to think of it. x__x... I was trying to "open with..." Java Sun VM. But it doesn't work for the terminal command.
[04:14] <ubuntu> hi
[04:14] <linuxuz3r> bios reboots after i shutdown 11.10 and boot the computer again
[04:14] <zizoo> Says "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute"
[04:14] <linuxuz3r> how should i fix this in 11.10
[04:14] <ubuntu> any help with getting my wireless internet working?
[04:15] <ahoneybun> zizoo, right click the file?
[04:15] <Paijo> Ubuntu:what your wifi card
[04:15] <ahoneybun> zizoo, try to reinstall java?
[04:15] <ubuntu> im on xubuntu it doest detect my wireess
[04:15] <zizoo> Attempting to change the file to be executable from the properties window does not work. It unchecks it as soon as I check it.
[04:15] <ubuntu> its broadcom
[04:15] <zizoo> It works fine on my linux partition. I doubt Java is the problem.
[04:15] <zykotick9> zizoo, the file is still on the windows partition isn't it?
[04:16] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom| ubuntu
[04:16] <zizoo> .__. ... I'd have to move a lot of files to my linux partition, which is supposed to be big enough for just linux essentials, then keep most programs on the third partition. Am I going to have to redo my setup?
[04:16] <ubuntu> ya its that onre the bot put up lol
[04:17] <zizoo> It is still on the separate partition.
[04:17] <ubuntu> its a broadcom airforce one bcm43111
[04:17] <zizoo> That is, I have a Windows partition and a Data partition, the latter being where I keep anything I want to use with both Linux and Windows. ^^;;;;
[04:17] <zykotick9> zizoo, you can't apply POSIX (ie gnu/linux) permissions (in this case executable) when the files are on MS (FAT/NTFS) partitions.
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: is the file stored on an NTFS partition?
[04:18] <zizoo> Can't I change some properties file so that .jar files are executable when I mount? :s
[04:18] <zizoo> It does that for .exe files....
[04:18] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu, are you not able to follow guides?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: if its NTFS then you will need to make the partition mark all the files executable when it's mounted
[04:19] <Paijo> Hemm repot nie
[04:19] <zizoo> Sounds kinda dangerous....
[04:19] <zizoo> But how would I do it?
[04:19] <zizoo> I'm willing, for now at least, until I find a better way.
[04:19] <ubuntu> no i dont have the time really
[04:19] <Paijo> Sure
[04:20] <zizoo> ubuntu, I would think guides would be faster than waiting for responses. Then you can ask on here about parts of a guide that don't work. I'd even help if you were willing to do that for me.
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: its not dangerous
[04:20] <ubuntu> thought some advice here wold be a little faster
[04:20] <ubuntu> but thanks for consideration physco_oreo..cute name btw
[04:20] <zizoo> Or parts of the guide that confuse you, etc. ubuntu
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/mount-ntfs-so-that-files-are-not-executable-buts-directories-are-363315/
[04:21] <Toph2> I'm trying to play an .avi file on both Movie Player and ALC player. I have sound on both but no video      Ubuntu 11.10. Any ideas?
[04:22] <lorddelta> ubuntu: Guides. The blessing of help desks and the scourge of users who already know everything in the guide (or so they think) is useless.
[04:22] <zizoo> Though if you're lucky enough to have someone around who already knows how to deal with that router, ubuntu, you might be right. I don't though. I could at best help you follow a guide.
[04:22] <Toph2> I'm trying to play an .avi file on both Movie Player and VLC player. I have sound on both but no video      Ubuntu 11.10. Any ideas?
[04:23] <zykotick9> Toph2, have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras and/or w32codecs (from medibuntu)?
[04:23] <psycho_oreos> !repeat | Toph2
[04:23] <lorddelta> I <3 Good Guides. And Documentation that isn't afraid to get in detail.
[04:23] <lorddelta> Mostly this channel is great and already knowing where the guides are, whereas google comparatively sucks, since it doesn't know what you want to look for.
[04:24] <ASKidwai> Still need help with my desktop problem
[04:24] <ASKidwai> it just doesn't respond
[04:24] <amh345> I've just reinstalled one of my ubuntu machines. and now i cannot remember the syntax to create a 'bookmark' to my other ubuntu machine.  it's driving me nuts.  does anyone here know?
[04:24] <ASKidwai> there are no icons or folders there
[04:24] <ASKidwai> although the terminal shows all of them
[04:24] <Toph2> zykotick9,,,   I ran sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:25] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: Can you launch gconf-editor?
[04:25] <zykotick9> Toph2, then in VLC - Tool / Preferences - Video tab, try changing the Output dropdown to see if you get video.
[04:25] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: It might be disguised as "Configuration Editor"
[04:25] <zykotick9> Toph2, it could still be a codec issue however
[04:25] <ubuntu> hmm says it supported
[04:26] <zizoo> My /etc/fstab file doesn't contain anything like what I saw in the guide. Not sure how to handle this for making my partition files executable....
[04:26] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: lemme try
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: you can add it so that it mounts with those options at boot, you will need to create a new folder to mount to
[04:27] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: yes. the desktop doesn't respond to anything i.e right clicks, the boxes you make for selection etc
[04:27] <linuxuz3r> hey ActionParsnip
[04:27] <linuxuz3r> my bios problem with 11.10 is still not fixed yet
[04:28] <lorddelta> Are you able to get to a command prompt?
[04:28] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: Try hitting: Ctrl+Alt+T
[04:28] <usr13> zizoo: You should probably give us some partition info so we can give you more specific advice.
[04:28] <linuxuz3r> when i shut down 11.10 and boot back at the bios post it reboots again
[04:28] <linuxuz3r> so now i have to save bios settings
[04:28] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: yes, gconf-editor is open
[04:28] <linuxuz3r> 11.10 does it all the time
[04:29] <evil_server44> its the acpi buffer problem theres a patch
[04:29] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: Yes, ok, try navigating to /apps/nautilus/preferences/
[04:29] <evil_server44> you have to patch your kernel source before compiling
[04:29] <linuxuz3r> evil_server44: acpi buffer problem
[04:29] <evil_server44> im completely sure what it is
[04:29] <lorddelta> In the right panel there should be a key, or "Name" with the value "show_desktop"
[04:29] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: done
[04:29] <linuxuz3r> so i got to download the kernel source?
[04:30] <evil_server44> but when you shutdown the kernel doesnt properly empty the buffer and thats what causes the problem on the next boot
[04:30] <huamm_> how to make openbox shaddow ?
[04:30] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: There should be a checkbox next to that. Try checking/unchecking that?
[04:30] <linuxuz3r> evil_server44: how do i fix it
[04:30] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: ok
[04:30] <usr13> zizoo: sudo fdisk -l > info.txt ; df >> info.txt ; /etc/fstab  >> info.txt ; sudo blkid >> info.txt ; pastebinit info.txt
[04:30] <usr13> and send resulting URL
[04:30] <gerzel> Is it possable to /give a monster spawner and pick the monster?  Or will monster spawners /give ed always be set to pigs?
[04:31] <evil_server44> there is a patch on i think bugzilla.org or something but i have a fixed version of the ec.c file
[04:31] <gerzel> I'm on a server creative mode as op.
[04:31] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: I'll be buggered! It works :D
[04:31] <evil_server44> i can pm it to you
[04:31] <linuxuz3r> whats ec.c?
[04:31] <ubuntu> 14e4:4318
[04:31] <ubuntu> 	
[04:31] <ubuntu> yes
[04:31] <ubuntu> 	
[04:31] <ubuntu> BCM4318
[04:31] <ubuntu> 	
[04:31] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <ASKidwai> lorddelta: although you have to double click and in the dialogue box, select "True"
[04:31] <gerzel> ack my appologies.  window automatically opened.
[04:32] <evil_server44> its the file the controls the emptying of the acpi buffer by default it doesnt empty like it should
[04:32] <ubuntu> so i read al the crap and dont know how to fix my problem stil
[04:32] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: Good to hear. :)
[04:32] <evil_server44> alot of people have the same problem with diffrent comps
[04:32] <ubuntu> http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[04:32] <ASKidwai> :D
[04:32] <linuxuz3r> evil_server44: how do i use ec.c
[04:33] <xangua> huamm_: i was trying  this right now  :) http://www.ubuntips.com.ar/2011/02/22/xcompmgr-alternativa-a-compiz-para-maquinas-con-pocos-recursos/
[04:33] <sasori> http://pastebin.com/eEPDeiWG  then i added 127.0.0.1 at etc/hosts file, then restarted apache2 via /etc/init.d/apache2 stop -> stop .. when i typed http://test at the browser, is a white page of death, it doesn't show up the test index file that i did..is there something wrong wit the httpd-vhosts.conf configuration that i did ? or I edited a wrong file ?
[04:33] <evil_server44> im gonna paste the file contents on pastebin.com and paste the link in the channel
[04:33] <ubuntu> i went there says it is supported but it also sas that a chip with / can use two different drivers not both at same time any one know how i can set it or check that it is only using 1 driver
[04:34] <lorddelta> ASKidwai: Fun fact; gconf is the gnome registry of all settings. Many configuration problems can be solved here, you just need to find the right keys. ;)
[04:34] <xangua> now it looks like this huamm_ http://img560.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmpfm9yns.png
[04:34] <lorddelta> Err well he left, I guess, free info for everyone. =/
[04:35] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu, lspci -nn may help.. also checking on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[04:35] <ubuntu> can someone help me to check my wireless card isnt using two different drivers
[04:36] <zizoo> Ok, I have 3 NTFS partitions. One is something lenovo put on here, the others are my Windows and Data partitions. I also have an extended partition which I used to add linux and the linux swap partitions... if I remember this correctly. I'm just looking at fdisk and seeing the 7 partitions. Seems a bit much to me now. =__=;
[04:36] <evil_server44> open this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/743897/ and copy all the text into a file
[04:36] <evil_server44> you can use whatever editor you want
[04:36] <zizoo> And I'm trying to make all files in the Data partition executable by editing my fstab file hopefully?
[04:38] <Compaq_Administr> I just installed Command Line Ubuntu. When I boot it, I get nothing on my screen. I don't even get a cursor.
[04:38] <toshiba> is ubuntu the best os?
[04:38] <Rya_n> Anyone ever seen this problem?
[04:39] <zykotick9> toshiba, is blue the best colour?
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> Commander1024, that's what command line Ubuntu means
[04:39] <zizoo> But my fstab file is indecipherable to me.
[04:39] <aeon-ltd> Rya_n: what do you see in the boot process? (after POST and bios/boot options)
[04:40] <psycho_oreos> err Rya_n
[04:40] <Rya_n> aeon-ltd: I see GRUB, I choose Ubuntu, then nothing.
[04:40] <aeon-ltd> Rya_n: what gpu?
[04:40] <Rya_n> psycho_oreos: I mean my monitor doesn't have a signal. There's no command line.
[04:40] <Rya_n> Nvidia
[04:40] <lorddelta> Rya_n: Can you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[04:41] <amh345> what's the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> Rya_n: have you tried reinstalling?
[04:41] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Rya_n
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> amh345: no best
[04:41] <amh345> rhythm player?
[04:41] <amh345> oh
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> amh345: use what you prefer or need
[04:41] <Rya_n> I remember I had to use that for Mint. It's strnage though that the regular Ubuntu install works without it.
[04:42] <amh345> and is synaptic not installed on the latest ubuntu by default?
[04:42] <lorddelta> Ah well thanks to everyone, and to everyone a good night, I have need of retiring.
[04:43] <Rya_n> amh345: No, it isn't. Ubuntu Software Center is the default.
[04:44] <amh345> oh, i see it.   ugh. I'm really not a fan of the new ubnutu.  i wish i could get the 'classic' look back. i don't like all this Dash stuff.
[04:44] <amh345> it's extra shitty when vncing
[04:45] <zykotick9> !notunity | amh345
[04:45] <usr13> amh345: You can:  xfce
[04:45] <usr13> amh345: YOu can make it look and act just like what you had in 10.04
[04:45] <amh345> oh sweet. thanks zykotick9
[04:46] <zykotick9> usr13, i don't really find xfce an equal replacement for gnome - i know it's what a lot of people or suggesting, i just don't personally see it.
[04:46] <ubuntu> if running the live cd of xubuntu is super slow onmy computer now shoud i  not install>
[04:46] <mmv> ubuntu: how much ram do you have?
[04:47] <ubuntu> 512
[04:47] <zykotick9> ubuntu, lubuntu is much lighter then xubuntu btw
[04:47] <mmv> then its going to be slow off a livecd
[04:48] <usr13> zykotick9: By default, it's not, but if you make a few changes, there's really very little difference.
[04:48] <ubuntu> puppy is reay fast on ive cd
[04:48] <ubuntu> live*
[04:48] <usr13> zykotick9: /join #xfce
[04:48] <HelloWorld321> for 11.10: GADMIN-Samba or system-config samba?
[04:48] <taoli> does any one have exp running puppy in Vbox? i am tryint to install guest addition, which one should i install ubuntu?
[04:49] <mod> I did two aptitude searches, purposefully to find the same item in different ways, but in one search it comes up as installed and in the other as not installed
[04:49] <zykotick9> usr13, too bad xfce doesn't seem to like running in KVM
[04:49] <mod> http://pastebin.com/pvGMz7nx
[04:50] <mod> how could this happen? am i reading the output incorrectly?
[04:50] <mod> i   xserver-xorg-video-intel                               - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[04:50] <usr13> zykotick9: I didn't know that?  You mean KVM as in a KVM switch?
[04:50] <zizoo> How do I figure out which of my partitions is the one I need? There are two NTFS ones, not labeled for booting. Something lenovo put on my laptop and my main data partition. I want to remount Data, but I don't know which one it is.
[04:51] <zykotick9> usr13, no, KVM as in the virtualization software
[04:51] <mod> p   xserver-xorg-video-intel                               - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[04:51] <usr13> o
[04:52] <zykotick9> mod, what does "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel" say?
[04:52] <ubuntu> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware    i did this but now im stuck
[04:52] <mod> zyko, says its the installed and candidate versions are the same
[04:53] <m477> if is fluxbox hard to cope for beginner?
[04:53] <ubuntu> i cant find whatever i had downloaded to install it
[04:53] <zykotick9> mod, i believe that's installed so long as you have xorg installed?
[04:53] <HulkHogan> mod: which command u use?
[04:53] <mod> geneally i use a mix of apt-get and aptitude
[04:54] <mod> "install"
[04:54] <zykotick9> m477, it has config files (for things like editing the menus)
[04:54] <mod> ok well i knew it was installed, just not sure what the diff outputs implied
[04:54] <zizoo> Oh nevermind. I see the number of blocks now, and it HAS to be the much bigger one. Sorry, little bit of dumbassery over here.
[04:54] <mod> ok well, time to reboot, installed a bunch of new intel drivers
[04:54] <mod> thanks for the help
[04:54] <m477> zykotick9: so?
[04:55] <zykotick9> m477, well, do you consider that "hard to cope" if yes - then YES to your question, if NO then NO to your question
[04:56] <m477> zykotick9: what do you exactly mean by config files, sry for dumb question?
[04:57] <zykotick9> m477, lets say you want to add something to the menu, you have to open up a config/text file and edit it (with the proper syntax) - it's not like drag-n-drop at all.
[04:57] <HulkHogan> m477: settings u would have to edit
[04:58] <m477> zykotick9: what syntax, is it c++ etc? or it has own language
[04:58] <zykotick9> m477, it's own
[04:58] <zykotick9> m477, it's not hard.
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox is great once you get to grips with it
[04:59] <zykotick9> m477, i imagine most ubuntu users would find fluxbox very dated - but it's super fast ;)
[05:00] <ubuntu> is lubuntu going to ruun ok on my acer aspire 5100 512 ram and 800 ghz proc?
[05:00] <zykotick9> m477, ActionParsnip is certainly not "most ubuntu users" ;)
[05:00] <m477> zykotick9: i use lucid and gnome doesnt fit me
[05:00] <m477> ;)
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> could try openbox too, LXDE uses it as its WM
[05:00] <HulkHogan> ubuntu: get something smaller
[05:00] <m477> and compiz crush all the time my PC
[05:01] <ubuntu> like what hulk?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: it'll run well on that
[05:01] <zykotick9> ubuntu, lubuntu should work - can't get too much smaller - except for the *box's
[05:02] <ubuntu> i have puppy on 1 partition in runs like a drem
[05:02] <ubuntu> dream
[05:02] <zizoo> Ok, I'm getting overwhelmed looking at all this. I don't know what to do, but I want to remount NTFS partition /dev/sda7 so that all files are executable (or at least .jar files).
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: could try tinycore too
[05:02] <zizoo> Any help there?
[05:03] <ubuntu> but for me i dont care to learn a bunch just want to do simple stuff so its a bit time consuming so thats why im trying the ubunt
[05:03] <usr13> zizoo: sudo fdisk -l > info.txt ; df >> info.txt ; /etc/fstab  >> info.txt ; sudo blkid >> info.txt ; pastebinit info.txt
[05:03] <usr13> and we can help you....
[05:03] <HulkHogan> ubuntu: maybe try slitaz distro
[05:03] <ubuntu> ok thanks actionparsnip
[05:03] <zykotick9> usr13, you missed at cat with your /etc/fstab part
[05:03] <zykotick9> s/at/the/
[05:04] <usr13> zizoo: As I said before, if you supply us with some information about your system, we can give you specific advise.
[05:04] <ubuntu> the problem i have with puppy is skype or any webcam thing crashes my computer after a few mins of webcam chatting?
[05:04] <m477> wbc from fluxbox
[05:04] <ubuntu> anyone know whats up w that?
[05:04] <usr13> zykotick9: Thanks
[05:04] <usr13> zizoo: sudo fdisk -l > info.txt ; df >> info.txt ; cat /etc/fstab  >> info.txt ; sudo blkid >> info.txt ; pastebinit info.txt
[05:05] <m477> zykotick9: it starts really fast ;o
[05:05] <usr13> zizoo:   Use this one  ^^^^^
[05:05] <zykotick9> m477, almost instantly ;)
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: i'd ask in #puppylinux
[05:05] <ubuntu> is that a problem with a driver or with ram?
[05:05] <zykotick9> m477, i used fluxbox for years - on P3 450s running Gentoo - compiling gnome took days
[05:05] <usr13> zizoo: ... and send us resulting URL.
[05:06] <ubuntu> oh i have
[05:06] <ubuntu> it seems like a genenral question
[05:06] <m477> ;]
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: then try #linux
[05:06] <skilz> How do I remove unity off my system?
[05:06] <skilz> And gnome
[05:06] <ubuntu> the problem i have with puppy is skype or any webcam thing crashes my computer after a few mins of webcam chatting?
[05:06] <usr13> skilz: Install xfce
[05:07] <skilz> I installed the new Ubuntu and install fluxbox since thats all I use.
[05:07] <ubuntu> anyone know whats up w that?
[05:07] <skilz> usr13, I'm a fluxbox user, but anyways, I want to free up some space since I will not be using gnome or unity...
[05:07] <usr13> skilz: Oh, well I don't know how to remove unity.
[05:08] <zykotick9> skilz, if you plan on upgrading to the next ubuntu release, i'd recommend you just leave them
[05:08] <skilz> zykotick9, No I wont be.
[05:08] <usr13> skilz: Are you running out of hard drive space?
[05:08] <skilz> It's an old p4 laptop
[05:08] <skilz> usr13, Yes I am.
[05:08] <zykotick9> skilz, then try to carefully remove them, but you'll run into meta-package issues almost for sure
[05:08] <HulkHogan> skilz: uninstall unity then
[05:09] <skilz> 6gb free
[05:09] <skilz> zykotick9, Theres not a lot of glib apps I run so should be okay
[05:09] <skilz> not much gnome applications
[05:10] <zykotick9> skilz, i just mean it's going to remove the ubuntu-desktop meta-package and probably a HUGE list of applications, you could just reinstall what you need after though.
[05:10] <xangua> skilz: or you could try minimal install and just install what you want ;)
[05:11] <skilz> xangua, I'm not reinstalling my system.
[05:11] <HulkHogan> skilz: remove unity, ubuntuone, software center, compiz ..etc
[05:11] <williamchan_> whats the correct way to add a ssh-agent to autoload my ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[05:12] <zizoo> Should there be a URL, usr13?
[05:13] <zizoo> I don't see one. Or should I just host this .txt somewhere to show you?
[05:13] <usr13> zizoo: Yes, it will generate a URL
[05:13] <fellayaboy> how can i bridge my connections very easily?
[05:13] <zykotick9> zizoo, do you have pastebinit installed?
[05:13] <m477> zykotick9: there is something strange i have ran nautilus and my wallpaper has came back instantly Oo
[05:14] <fellayaboy> i know in windows 7 all u have to do is highlight both connections and select bridge connection and blam
[05:14] <zizoo> zykotick9: Not that I am aware of.
[05:14] <usr13> zizoo: Did you do "sudo fdisk -l > info.txt ; df >> info.txt ; cat /etc/fstab  >> info.txt ; sudo blkid >> info.txt ; pastebinit info.txt"?
[05:14] <zykotick9> m477, there is a switch to start nautilus without desktop somehow
[05:14] <zizoo> I copied the exact text into the terminal.
[05:14] <zizoo> Oh, oops.
[05:14] <detrix42> Hello. I recently just downloaded firefox8, but I cant get firefox8 to recognize the flash player, that firefox 7.x.x that comes with oneiric uses. How do I get Firefox8 which is in my home directory to use the flash player 10?
[05:14] <zizoo> I missed the last one. Will do now.
[05:14] <usr13> zizoo: pastebinit info.txt
[05:14] <zykotick9> usr13, you probably need to instruct zizoo on installing pastebinit first
[05:15] <usr13> zykotick9: Now why would I need to do that?
[05:15] <zizoo> Nah, getting it now.
[05:15] <zykotick9> usr13, is it installed by default these days?
[05:15] <m477> zykotick9: also my browser doesnt work
[05:15] <usr13> zykotick9: No, but he obviously knows how to read.
[05:15] <zizoo> Sorry, just missed the pastebinit bit at the end when I copy-pasted because it was on a new line and I didn't see it at first. xP
[05:15] <zykotick9> m477, which browser?
[05:15] <m477> zykotick9: ff
[05:16] <williamchan_> whats the correct way to add a ssh-agent to autoload my ~/.ssh/id_rsa .. is there something that integrates nicely with xfce?
[05:16] <zizoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/743907/
[05:16] <zizoo> There ya go.
[05:16] <zykotick9> m477, try starting it from cli, do you get an error?
[05:16] <zizoo> Thanks for that, btw. I do believe pastebinit will be quite helpful to me in the future. ^.^
[05:16] <m477> zykotick9: instead it opera works, what is cli?
[05:17] <zykotick9> m477, cli = command line interface (terminal)
[05:17] <m477> zykotick9: oh k
[05:18] <m477> zykotick9: hm strange it finally started work
[05:19] <zizoo> Oh um, here, usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/743907/
[05:20] <zizoo> Should remember to tag people who are helping me when I give them stuff they ask for....
[05:20] <usr13> zizoo: Maybe you just need to change some partition sizes.  Does your NTFS partition really need to be 262G?  And your Linux partition only 14G?
[05:21] <m477> zykotick9: i think flash works better is it possible or just my placebo?
[05:21] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.04. My mouse is of microsoft's. Bu the middle clicking is not working. Please help
[05:21] <zizoo> :/... I was really hoping to be able to put most programs and files on the nice little mutual data partition. Can't I just remount the partition to be executable?
[05:21] <zizoo> I want to have Linux be reinstallable easily without losing any data.
[05:21] <zizoo> Same for Windows....
[05:22] <zizoo> On the off-chance that I fuck everything up somehow....
[05:22] <HulkHogan> zizoo: make sperate paritions
[05:22] <zykotick9> m477, if you where using compiz before - it's possibly much better
[05:22] <usr13> zizoo: You could boot the LiveCD and use gparted to shrink /dev/sda7  and enlarge /dev/sda5  Or you could create the gparted liveCD. See: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:23] <m477> zykotick9: no i wasnt, but i had problems with maximization  video on YT
[05:24] <xangua> (23:22:12) zizoo: I want to have Linux be reinstallable easily without losing any data. - make a separate home partition
[05:24] <zizoo> I'm pretty sure it's possible to make this partition's files executable. Part of the point was to make all my files constantly accessible too.......
[05:24] <usr13> zizoo: Right now, you are only using 25% of /dev/hda7
[05:24] <zizoo> Are you trying to tell me that I cannot make sda7's files executable?
[05:24] <zizoo> Or that it is a bad idea?
[05:25] <TonyGia> I have a dpkg question.
[05:25] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.04. My mouse is of microsoft's. Bu the middle clicking is not working. Please help
[05:25] <m477> zykotick9: hm my multimedia keys on my keyboard dont work maybe can you advice something
[05:26] <zykotick9> m477, that could be a challenge.  I have no idea.  I didn't have multimedia keys when i was using fluxbox.
[05:26] <zizoo> I would like to understand why we are ignoring the notion of making files executable before I move on to other ideas, because those ideas pose an inconvenience I would like to avoid.... Or, is it that those here don't know how to do that? In which case, I can go back to looking on google....
[05:27] <yagoo> zizoo, scripts have been used for like 40 years.. I think you come too late to debate that.
[05:27] <yagoo> pff
[05:27] <yagoo> lol
[05:28] <m477> zykotick9: ok no problem, i have to admit im impressed that my browser run so fast now
[05:28] <usr13> zizoo: I do not know how you mounted the /dev/sda7 partition but apparently you have mounted it ro and you can just simply mount it rw.  (Is that what you are talking about, the NTFS partition?)
[05:28] <jimmy_kash> Hey can anybody help me wuth an ubuntu deluge file permission issue
[05:28] <usr13> zizoo: Do you want it to be mounted permanently ?
[05:29] <zizoo> Yeah, sda7, the NTFS partition. I need it executable. Permanently would be nice, but I only need it when I run programs on there, which isn't -too- often, so w/e works.
[05:29] <usr13> zizoo: Just mount it read/write.
[05:30] <usr13> zizoo: If you want it mouned perminately you can add another line to /etc/fstab for it.
[05:30] <bullgard4> What does 'man 3 urxvt' mean with a 'resource'? Here this term apparently used used in a special sense: "Every time a terminal object gets created, extension scripts speicified via the "perl" resource are loaded and associated with it."
[05:31] <agemyth> hello!
[05:31] <zizoo> read/write won't let me run my files, will it? :s
[05:31] <HulkHogan> zizoo: u can use pySDm if u need to mount the drives
[05:31] <bullgard4> What does 'man 3 urxvt' mean with a 'resource'? Here this term apparently is used in a special sense: "Every time a terminal object gets created, extension scripts speicified via the "perl" resource are loaded and associated with it."
[05:31] <usr13> zizoo: UUID="60CC0648CC061944  /media/Data
[05:31] <mmv> that's a truncated UUID
[05:31] <usr13> zizoo: UUID="60CC0648CC061944  /media/Data  ntfs  rw,user,auto  0   0
[05:31] <yagoo> no it isnt
[05:31] <yagoo> i think he has ntfs or fat32
[05:32] <yagoo> yeah.. its ntfs..
[05:32] <usr13> zizoo: Use this second one... I hit enter on the first one my accident
[05:32] <jimmy_kash> ANybody here good with deluge?
[05:32]  * yagoo says you should be using ntfs-3g .. ntfs write will f' up that filesystem
[05:33] <yagoo> lol
[05:33] <yagoo> someone is going to break their system
[05:33] <OerHeks> jimmy_kash, ask the real question and find out ?
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> guys can you see the minimize button in gnome 3
[05:33] <zizoo> Thanks usr13. If I replace rw with rwx, that will make it executable as well?
[05:33] <jimmy_kash> OerHeks: I did before - I am having a file permission error when using the webUI
[05:33] <usr13> zizoo: If you want a different mount point, you can create one and change /media/Data to what ever you create, like maybe just  /Windows
[05:33] <jimmy_kash> OerHeks: You good with this?
[05:33] <yagoo> zizoo, you can't. that's an ntfs.. you need something unix
[05:34] <usr13> zizoo: No.  No such thing as executable.  rw
[05:34] <usr13> zizoo: read/write
[05:34] <zizoo> But then why can Wine run .exe programs on it? :s
[05:34] <OerHeks> jimmy_kash, what file permission error, use paste.ubuntu.com to paste multi lines
[05:34] <zizoo> The whole point was to run my jar with java sun vm without moving it.
[05:34] <yagoo> zizoo, see wine guides onthe net.. you need to setup the wine environment..
[05:35] <jimmy_kash> OerHeks: In the webUI it just says "Permission denied: /val/lib/deluge/ FILENAME"
[05:35] <apriori_> .. != ...
[05:35] <usr13> zizoo: You will exicute applications on the Linux partition.  If you need to execute MS Windows (.exe) apps, you need to install wine.  sudo apt-get install wine
[05:35] <zykotick9> jimmy_kash, does it really say /val or /var?
[05:35] <yagoo> zizoo, you're also probably using the wrong ntfs module.. your screwing up your ntfs filesystem.. (should be using ntfs-3g/fusefs, not the ntfs module)
[05:36] <jimmy_kash> OerHeks: It reall says val
[05:36] <HulkHogan> still holding on to windows?
[05:36] <usr13> yagoo: Just use auto.  i.e.  UUID="60CC0648CC061944  /media/Data  auto  rw,user,auto  0   0
[05:36] <zizoo> Oh, so I am totally insistently BSing over here. God, I hate to be that guy. .____. ... Ugh, I'll just copy the shit over to my linux partition. I hate having to waste so much space though with duplicates. >_______<
[05:36] <zykotick9> jimmy_kash, well, i think that's an issue
[05:36] <xangua> !language | zizoo
[05:36] <jimmy_kash> OerHeks: I think you might be right.... 1 sec
[05:36] <usr13> zizoo: Just use auto.  i.e.  UUID="60CC0648CC061944  /media/Data  auto  rw,user,auto  0   0
[05:37] <linuxuz3r> anyone using gnome-shell?
[05:37] <zizoo> Like... why install the same program twice in Linux and in Windows.
[05:37] <usr13> zizoo: Your linix partition is only 14G
[05:37] <zizoo> Bloik, sorry. Didn't notice that. Getting a bit tired.
[05:37] <linuxuz3r> i want to know if there is a minimize button in gnome shell
[05:37] <HulkHogan> linuxuz3r: there is no minimize button in gnome shells
[05:37] <HulkHogan> linuxuz3r: u could add it back if u want tho
[05:37] <linuxuz3r> HulkHogan: how
[05:38] <zizoo> Must revert to nonsense expletives. Cudgelmuffin and farsicle! >_<
[05:38] <usr13> zizoo: You are correct, you don't need to install the same program twice.
[05:38] <HulkHogan> linuxuz3r: gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":minimize,maximize,close"
[05:38] <zizoo> But it's a .jar ...
[05:38] <zizoo> I mean, not install, but store.
[05:38] <zizoo> Why store it in two places?
[05:39] <Arcademan> Guys is there a way to install or boot Ubuntu using the Windows Boot Manager and not using wubi?
[05:39] <usr13> zizoo: Installing wine is the way to run the MS Windows apps.  BUT, what MS Windows apps do you really need?  Can't you use Linux apps?
[05:40] <bullgard4> What does 'man 3 urxvt' mean with a 'resource'? Here this term apparently is used in a special sense: "Every time a terminal object gets created, extension scripts specified via the "perl" resource are loaded and associated with it."
[05:40] <linuxuz3r> Arcademan: grub for dos
[05:40] <linuxuz3r> Arcademan: grub4dos
[05:40] <HulkHogan> if only linux users would stop promoting wine
[05:40] <usr13> HulkHogan: We are not promoting wine  Are we?
[05:41] <usr13> HulkHogan: But...what is your suggestion?
[05:41] <HulkHogan> usr13: ask all the newbies that try to run windows apps on day one
[05:41] <zizoo> They are not Windows apps. They are Java programs. Actually, it's Minecraft. When running the .exe, Wine just pops up and says I need JVM 1.5.somethingorother.
[05:41] <zizoo> So I followed Notch's instructions to try to run the .jar, but running it directly with java -jar minecraft.jar does not work.
[05:41] <Arcademan> linuxuz3r, can it be done with EasyBCD just as well?
[05:41] <usr13> HulkHogan: Ask them what?
[05:41] <HulkHogan> zizoo: if u want to run java jar files, u have to tell it to using java -jar /path/filename.jar
[05:42] <zizoo> I just said that that does not work.
[05:42] <linuxuz3r> Arcademan: i dont use it try google
[05:42] <zizoo> It claims to have no main file.
[05:42] <zizoo> I'll fetch the exact error in a sec.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: why not copy the app to your linux partition?
[05:42] <zizoo> Because I do not have the kind of space to waste on copying everything I need to work in both OSes.
[05:42] <phiscribe> will any jar anywhere launch, more basic question
[05:42] <HulkHogan> usr13: stop using crapp wine apps, or go use windows
[05:43] <zykotick9> HulkHogan, i agree
[05:43] <linuxuz3r> or if not use vmware
[05:43] <zykotick9> linuxuz3r, i don't agree ;)
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> HulkHogan: some apps run great in wine, if it works then why not use it
[05:43] <linuxuz3r> why not
[05:44] <HulkHogan> ActionParsnip: i say not to promote it, not stop using it if u no u can
[05:44] <zykotick9> linuxuz3r, vmware is propritary - there is VBox or KVM as free replacements
[05:44] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip: have you updated you ubuntu 11.10
[05:44] <usr13> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/743907/  (He only has 14G Linux partition.)  (Yet his NTFS partition is  643G and only 25% used. I suggested he shrink /dev/sda7 and enlarge /dev/sda5 but he doesn't seem to want to.)
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: I'm on 12.04 now
[05:44] <linuxuz3r> beta?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: pre-alpha, beta isn't for months
[05:45] <zizoo> "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
[05:45] <zizoo> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from '/media/Data/Users/Alex/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar'"
[05:45] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Do you take part in the development process of 12.04?
[05:45] <usr13> Gotta go.  TTYL....
[05:45] <brjannc> zizoo: you haven't attempted to apply any mods to that jar, have you?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: just submitting bugs
[05:46] <zizoo> Err.... chmod? .____.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: not had many so far, or any that have lasted more than a few days
[05:46] <zizoo> Does this mean I will have to redownload it?
[05:46] <brjannc> zizoo: oh, wait -- you're trying to run the wrong jar
[05:46] <zizoo> Oh, mods.... No, no mods to the game.
[05:46] <zizoo> Which jar should I run?
[05:46] <brjannc> zizoo: You want to run the launcher, not the minecraft.jar that's in the .minecraft directory
[05:46] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Ah! Keep up that good work. (I will test the beta version and report bugs.)
[05:47] <zizoo> The launcher is a .exe file. Notch's guide says to try to run the jar if you are using linux.
[05:47] <brjannc> zizoo: no, there's a jar launcher
[05:47] <zizoo> o.o!?!
[05:47] <zizoo> Where?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: beta1 isn't til March 1st so I wouldn't worry too much
[05:48] <brjannc> zizoo: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
[05:49] <zizoo> brjannc: Where do I put the launcher?
[05:49] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I know that. I keep my fingers crossed yet.
[05:50] <brjannc> zizoo: anywhere you like; but it will create its own .minecraft folder in your home directory. you'll have to symlink your windows one, if you want it to share data, but that might get kind of weird because it uses OS-specific native libraries
[05:51] <brjannc> zizoo: if you want to try it, make a copy of your ...Roaming/.minecraft directory, then ln -s /media/Data/Users/Alex/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/ ~/.minecraft
[05:51] <brjannc> zizoo: (the copy is strictly for backup purposes, in case something goes wrong)
[05:52] <zizoo> Thank you. I should be good for now, and thanks for the file and the advice....
[05:52] <brjannc> zizoo: sure thing, good luck and punch trees :)
[05:52] <zykotick9> !cookie | brjannc
[05:53] <zizoo> Haha, you too, friend, goodbye!
[05:53] <brjannc> zykotick9: aw, thanks :)
[05:54]  * zykotick9 wonders what tastes better #ubuntu's cookie, or #debian's beer ;)
[05:55] <yagoo> why do so many people mentione minecraft.. It sucks..
[05:55] <zizoo> I'll stick around so hopefully I can help someone out later after you guys've headed out for the night. Feel the need to give back after being such a pain, but you guys can tackle anything I can, only faster....
[05:56] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.04. My mouse is of microsoft's. Bu the middle clicking is not working. Please help
[05:57] <brjannc> zizoo: great!
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: cookie beer: http://www.upfront-live.com/gg/images/stories/extras/bottles/cookie_beer.png
[05:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, ummmm ;)
[05:59] <brjannc> Here's one I haven't been able to solve yet -- I've got jack and pulse running happily together, but my volume control keys are only changing pulse's audio sink; anybody have any tricks up their sleeve to tie them together somehow?
[06:00] <bullgard4> What does 'man 3 urxvt' mean with a 'resource'? Here this term apparently is used in a special sense: "Every time a terminal object gets created, extension scripts specified via the "perl" resource are loaded and associated with it." Is this here short for "X resource"?
[06:00] <StepNjump> Hi, when you invoke an app like let's say gksudo dolphin, what is the switch that can be used after the command so that it allows you to use the terminal once more for some other commands? I used to know but I forgot! hummmm...
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: &
[06:01] <StepNjump> oh thanks ActionParsnip
[06:01] <soreau> bullgard4: It likely means scripts written in perl language
[06:01] <yagoo> bullgard4, apt-cache show <packagename> see what it says for "Depends:"
[06:01] <bullgard4> soreau: Ah!
[06:03] <bullgard4> yagoo: Are you telling me that Depends are the "resources" used in 'man 3 urxvt'?
[06:03] <brjannc> bullgard4: yes, it means X resources. see e.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Urxvt#Creating_.7E.2F.Xresources
[06:04] <zizoo> Urk... brjannc...? Hate to bother you again, but do you know why Minecraft would crash on me as soon as it's done logging in and DLing the files? @_@
[06:04] <yagoo> bullgard4, must be a reference to "perl class"
[06:04] <brjannc> bullgard4: there's also a section on that page on perl extensions
[06:05] <bullgard4> brjannc: Your answer makes sense to me. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:05] <zizoo> It's a problem with the 'org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay' class, if that helps any....
[06:05] <brjannc> zizoo: it might be that issue I referred to earlier with regards to native library clashes; are you trying to share the same directory as with windows?
[06:06] <zizoo> Nah, I decided to play it safe for now and run it here, then move it later if I get it running properly.
[06:06] <brjannc> bullgard4: no problem :)
[06:06] <ubuntu-for-me> use what for perlsourcefile ,that is use g++ for ccfile
[06:06] <brjannc> zizoo: okay. umm... give me a few seconds
[06:07] <zizoo> Sure thing.
[06:07] <yagoo> zizoo, modinfo ntfs .. does it say version 3 ?
[06:08] <zizoo> Not running from NTFS. Ignoring that for now. Unrelated to anything I am doing.
[06:08] <brjannc> zizoo: can you paste the output of uname -a for me please?
[06:08] <yagoo> lol
[06:08]  * yagoo thinks zizoo isnt using ntfs-3g
[06:08] <yagoo> man o man
[06:09] <zizoo> alex@alex-nom-nom-nom:/media/Data/Users/Alex/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/bin$ uname -a
[06:09] <zizoo> Linux alex-nom-nom-nom 3.0.0-12-generic-pae #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 16:37:17 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[06:09] <ubuntu-for-me> use what to compile perl-sourcefile and commenlisp-sourcefile?
[06:09] <brjannc> k thanks
[06:09] <jimmy_kash> Would it be hard to make a bash script that checks a folder for files, copies those files over SCP and then deletes them once it is complete?
[06:10] <dr_willis> ubuntu-for-me:  perl is an interperted language. you dont normally compile it.
[06:10] <dr_willis> perl foo.perlscript
[06:10] <dr_willis> or set up a proper #! line as the first line of the code.
[06:10] <zizoo> I'm on my linux partition yagoo, and not interacting with any NTFS partition files to speak of. Unless you think I need to run the file on one, I don't see what you are talking about.
[06:10] <soreau> jimmy_kash: There's probably a better solution for what you want to do but you could ask in #bash
[06:10] <dr_willis> jimmy_kash:  i belie rsync can do that allready.
[06:11] <brjannc> zizoo: ls ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/ | pastebinit
[06:11] <soreau> jimmy_kash: yes like rsync
[06:11] <jimmy_kash> dr_willis: so rsync can delete a file once synched? I thought it just synched stuff
[06:11] <zizoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/743931/
[06:11] <dr_willis> you could make rsync do the syncing, then have teh script delet things.. i rarely need to automate stuff like this
[06:12] <dr_willis> or check the rsync docs.   it mayhave a remove option
[06:12] <ubuntu-for-me> de_willis,what about lisp?
[06:12] <jimmy_kash> dr_willis: how would it know once it is synched that it can be deleted
[06:12] <dr_willis> ubuntu-for-me:  i think you need to check out some programing basics sites..
[06:12] <dr_willis> rync i belive has return codes to indicate success or failure.
[06:12] <jimmy_kash> ubuntu-for-me: you referring to my question?
[06:13] <ubuntu-for-me> de_willis,i know,i'll take it
[06:13] <jimmy_kash> dr_willis: thanks for your help.  I hadn't thought of rsync i will check it out
[06:14] <brjannc> zizoo: try running glxgears?
[06:15] <zizoo> Failed request. Oh heck. Now we're back to the same problem that stopped me running RedEclipse I bet.... Oh snizbat this is gonna be a pain.
[06:15] <brjannc> zizoo: sounds like an issue with your opengl stack. what video card and drivers are you using?
[06:17] <zizoo> Urk, I'll have to find that. I am using a lenovo W500, and I turned off the better graphics card and switchable graphics mode because I thought they were messing things up.
[06:17] <brjannc> zizoo: oh, okay -- another sufferer of nvidia optimus?
[06:17] <zizoo> Some FireGL(or something?) AMD graphics card. I KNOW that switchable graphics mode was screwing with things.
[06:18] <zizoo> I suppose so...?
[06:18] <soreau> zizoo: Start by getting rid of fglrx
[06:18] <brjannc> zizoo: ah, okay. well, regardless, you should be able to run opengl programs (no, it's not optimus, if it's an ATI/AMD card :) )
[06:19] <brjannc> zizoo: what groups are you in? run groups on the command line
[06:19] <zizoo> "alex adm dialout cdrom plugdev netdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[06:20] <zizoo> And it has two cards I think. soreau, is that program interfering with my other card, you think?
[06:20] <brjannc> zizoo: okay, let's try something. make sure the capitalization is all correct when you type this: sudo usermod -aG video alex
[06:21] <zizoo> It did something, and gave no errors.....
[06:21] <brjannc> zizoo: k, now log out and log back in, then try again
[06:21] <soreau> zizoo: You have hybrid graphics; one intel one radeon. There are open drivers for both but only radeon is also supported by fglrx which is more problematic all around than the open default radeon driver
[06:23] <dr_willis> hybred/dual gfx card setups - the next generation winmodem disaster. :)
[06:24]  * brjannc nods sadly
[06:24] <soreau> why, what winmodem disaster?
[06:24] <dr_willis> i cant think of anything else that was such  a disaster. :)
[06:25] <zizoo> Did you say to try glxgears again after logging in and out brjannc?
[06:25] <dr_willis> i recall the days when you had to recompile kerneles to get CD burners going. :)
[06:25] <zizoo> If so, same error.
[06:25] <brjannc> zizoo: sure, sounds like a good place to start :)
[06:25] <zizoo> Major opcode of failed request :155 (GLX)
[06:25] <yagoo> zizoo, maybe have the user a member of the video group
[06:25] <soreau> zizoo: remove fglrx, reboot and then if it still does not work, pastebin your X log
[06:25] <zizoo> Minor opcode: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[06:26] <zizoo> Already did that, yagoo.
[06:26] <brjannc> zizoo: blast. was hoping that was all it was. might have to turn you over to soreau; i don't know anything about fglrx
[06:26] <zizoo> ok soreau, I will try it and brb.
[06:28] <zizoo> Should I make sure I am in integrated graphics mode in my BIOS before getting back on? I'm not totally sure it's not in the other mode....
[06:29] <soreau> zizoo: Either gpu should work after fglrx is uninstalled
[06:29] <soreau> ugh
[06:30] <Yooo> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Pl%C3%A1tano/121335241310064
[06:30] <Yooo> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Pl%C3%A1tano/121335241310064
[06:30] <Yooo> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Pl%C3%A1tano/121335241310064
[06:30] <FloodBot1> Yooo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:30] <brjannc> soreau: I wonder how it's turned out in that all these years I've never owned an ATI card
[06:32] <tripelb> I have a question: three's something that is a bunch of linux stuff, runs a shell, and it starts with cynus or cyrus or cygnus
[06:32] <soreau> brjannc: nvidia used to be the best way to go for linux until kms protocol implementations came along
[06:32] <brjannc> tripelb: cygwin, but that's beyond the scope of this channel
[06:33] <zizoo> soreau: I'm back, and all seems fine. What do I do now?
[06:33] <soreau> zizoo: enjoy your desktop?
[06:33] <brjannc> soreau: yeah, it's disheartening to say the least
[06:34] <zizoo> Oh, glxgears works! Haha! I'll bet everything is fine now.
[06:34] <soreau> brjannc: what is?
[06:34] <zizoo> Lemme just test.
[06:34] <tripelb> thank you for refreshing my memory. I'm going to find out if it comes for the mac. brjannc. is there a better channel for inquiry?
[06:34] <tripelb> btw google suggestions did not help me
[06:34] <brjannc> soreau: that there doesn't seem to be anything that's well-supported any more
[06:34] <seseww> hi pppl
[06:34] <kanhiya> Hello, i have a question
[06:34] <soreau> brjannc: radeon is well supported...
[06:34] <seseww> i just installed lubuuntu  any idea how to get skype?
[06:35] <brjannc> tripelb: try #cygwinx
[06:35] <zizoo> HAHAHA! Thank you  SO MUCH, soreau!!!
[06:35] <kanhiya> whether i can charge from my customer by providing them modified ubuntu cd's
[06:35] <zykotick9> !skype | seseww
[06:35] <brjannc> soreau: even with the hybrid graphics mess?
[06:35] <soreau> zizoo: You are quite welcome ;)
[06:35] <soreau> brjannc: Yep, the ol switcheroo
[06:35] <seseww> hmm its not in the packag mananger
[06:35] <seseww> whats up withtthat?
[06:36] <seseww> and the apps are very limited in lubuntu
[06:36] <soreau> !info skype | seseww
[06:36] <kanhiya> well cd has package from UBuntu , that's why i am asking
[06:36] <soreau> !lubuntu | seseww
[06:36] <soreau> !skype | seseww
[06:36] <pnorman> Once you get outside of "common" configurations the support for nVidia and Radeon is limited, even in Windows.
[06:36] <kanhiya> Well i will charge for service not for software
[06:37] <zizoo> Wait, are you saying soreau, that I might actually be able to enable switchable graphics these days? Last I checked that was basically totally impossible....
[06:37] <tripelb> BRJANNC THANKS
[06:37] <brjannc> tripelb: sure thing
[06:37] <soreau> zizoo: Yes, you have to log out and stop X then do switheroo
[06:37] <seseww> theres no flash no skype no tor
[06:37] <abhijit> i need to press keyboard shortcut twice to bring up synapse. help
[06:37] <seseww> am i doing something wrong ?
[06:37] <soreau> zizoo: You might ask in #radeon or #intel-gfx for details
[06:38] <mokhtar> hi
[06:38] <soreau> night all
[06:39] <tucemiux_l> whew, ubuntu now really got good for reals, everything works on my desktop the way it's supposed to!
[06:39] <pnorman> kanhiya: Ubuntu might have some additional requirements if you're going to call it Ubuntu, but for software licensed under the GPL you can sell it, but you then have to be able to provide the source if requested, and you can't stop someone from taking any changes you made and passing them on.
[06:39] <pnorman> Standard disclaimer: That's a huge over-simplification, and if you want legal advice, talk to a lawyer.
[06:40] <nattyeyes> hi i cannot config my papref in natty any idea
[06:40] <brjannc> soreau: night!
[06:40] <yasaswi2245> can we install illumination for free on ubuntu
[06:41] <zykotick9> kanhiya, canonical trademarks (and other property) included in ubuntu ARE an issue - with selling it (but your question is not on topic for this channel, it's not a support question).  But I doubt you can sell Ubuntu CDs.
[06:41] <kanhiya> pnorman: No, i will sell it with other name & also there will be no restriction on any customer to stop modifying or copying, than it is all right?
[06:42] <mmv> FWIW you can sell debian cds.
[06:42] <kanhiya> pnorman: Basically i will charge for service & support not for software
[06:42] <zykotick9> mmv, that i would believe
[06:43] <pnorman> For something to be free (as in freedom) you have to be free to sell it
[06:43] <zykotick9> pnorman, Ubuntu is NOT free software... and it seems to be moving further and further away from it
[06:44] <nattyeyes> hi i cannot config my paprefs in natty any idea
[06:44] <pnorman> kanhiya: This is really not the best place to get legal advice. It sounds like you're looking at making your own distro which is a hugely complex area.
[06:45] <Red-Sox> zykotick9: how is ubuntu not free software?
[06:45] <kanhiya> pnorman: Thanks for advice,:)
[06:45] <mmv> Red-Sox: eh because it contains non-free...
[06:46] <Red-Sox> mmv: Like Flash and MP3 codecs?
[06:46] <zykotick9> mmv, (i'm guessing your a debian person) - just ask debian about firefox ;)  Red-Sox
[06:47] <mmv> Red-Sox: well, the mp3 decoders are probably free software, but with patent issues. have a look at the difference between gnewsense and ubuntu, the linux mainline is non-free too
[06:47] <Red-Sox> mmv: Interesting stuff.
[06:47] <HulkHogan> ubuntu one is not free
[06:47] <Red-Sox> Anyway...does anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu on a MacBook? I've installed ReFit and everything, but it doesn't boot. :\
[06:47] <seseww> lubuntu is slower than puppy lucid by far
[06:48] <seseww> the website says lightweight but runs really sluggish
[06:48] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed lubuntu being sluggish on any of my machines...
[06:48] <dr_willis> but i finally did toss out all the old junk. :)
[06:48] <seseww> my computer has 512mb ram and 800ghz cpu its a laptop
[06:48] <dr_willis> that would been somthing i would have tossed out.. :P
[06:48] <mmv> Red-Sox: ahh, wikipedia is good :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel 'GNU General Public License version 2 (only)[3][4] plus various closed source binary blobs[5]'
[06:49] <seseww> its a new laptop only cpl yrs old why would i throw it out lol
[06:49] <HulkHogan> seseww: dont think the standard pc now adays has 800ghz
[06:49] <dr_willis> i have better allready..
[06:49] <HulkHogan> lols
[06:49] <dr_willis> grandkids get the old stuff, or my mom, or brother.
[06:50] <HulkHogan> use something like tinycore puppy or slitaz
[06:50] <seseww> how do i check my hardware then in terminal put//?
[06:50] <dr_willis> at one time i had a Pent 1, 100mhz laptop i belive.. :) took most of a day to install ubuntu on. a 1x cdrom
[06:50] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[06:51] <dr_willis> lspci, lsusb, and a few other commands can give hw info also.
[06:55] <Abhijit> dr_willis: need to press keyboard shortcut twice to bring up synapse. help
[06:55] <seseww> the processor says frequency 2000.00mhz?
[06:56] <sherefe> jjh
[06:56] <sherefe> ïðèâåò
[06:57] <dr_willis> Abhijit:  havent used synapse lately. havent really used the desktop lately. ssh'd into my ubuntu server 99% of the time.
[06:57] <sherefe> êòî-íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü îòêëþ÷èòü ãðàôè÷åñêèé ðåæèì ïðèçàãðóçêå óáóíòó 11.10 ?
[06:57] <dr_willis> !info synapse
[06:58] <Abhijit> nvm dr_willis
[06:58] <seseww> what does 800 mhz when describing a processor refer to the frequwnxy?
[06:58] <seseww> frequency*
[06:58] <dr_willis> i would think so seseww
[06:59] <dr_willis> most cpus can throttle up/down. so sometimes the #'s can get confuseing.
[06:59] <seseww> so what the heck is 2000.00mhz equavilant too?
[06:59] <sherefe> hey guys
[06:59] <sherefe> can anybody help me ?
[07:00] <seseww> is tht 2gb
[07:00] <zykotick9> seseww, 2ghz giga-hertz, not bytes
[07:01] <dr_willis> sherefe:  ask the question and see.
[07:01] <dr_willis> for cpu specific info..  cat /proc/cpuinfo may help
[07:01] <seseww> oh cool so my processor isnt 800mhz like it says in puppy
[07:02] <seseww> bc it says 2000mhz here lol
[07:02] <dr_willis> its most likely throttled down to 800mhz when you checked it.
[07:02] <sherefe> dr_willis well my english is poor but i hope ull understand me I need turn off gnome starting while ubuntu 11.10 loading
[07:02] <zykotick9> seseww, "cat /proc/cpuinfo" would tell you for sure
[07:02] <dr_willis> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
[07:02] <sherefe> and then i need start it manually like startx
[07:02] <dr_willis> go by model name.. not the mhz #
[07:03] <dr_willis> cpu MHz         : 1000.000
[07:03] <dr_willis> sherefe:  so.. thats doable..
[07:03] <dr_willis> !text | sherefe
[07:03] <seseww> model name	: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
[07:03] <seseww> stepping	: 2
[07:03] <seseww> cpu MHz		: 800.000
[07:04] <dr_willis> if you want to boot to only the text mode. you can also edit /etc/default/grub  and use the options 'noquiet nosplash nofb text' (what im using here)  to disable gdm and X starting on boot. and disable plymouth.
[07:04] <Wisnia> hello , i want some help , how to disable login sound
[07:04] <sherefe> sherefe i need every time click esc during boot ,
[07:04] <dr_willis> seseww:  thats not too old a laptop then. :)
[07:04] <sherefe> ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> sherefe:  /etc/default/grub has settings you want to look into.
[07:05] <dr_willis> !grub2 | sherefe
[07:06] <seseww> thats stil a slow processor speed though right?
[07:06] <dr_willis> compared to now a days.. yes.
[07:06] <seseww> and thanks for helping me fogure it out
[07:06] <dr_willis> compared to back then when it was new.. well.. it was low end back then
[07:06] <dr_willis> I have a similer laptop - i gave the step daughter
[07:06] <nattyeyes> hi i cannot configure my pulseaudio server ( paprefs ). It s all freezed and in grey ( main window of pulseaudio server control ) any idea ? tnx
[07:06] <Wisnia> hi, i want to disable login sound...
[07:07] <seseww> this one was gift after mine was stolen
[07:07] <seseww> from my lil sister : )
[07:07] <dr_willis> Wisnia:  theres a sound setting check box for that somewhere in the settings dialogs i recall.
[07:07] <sherefe> dr_willis i tried to change lines GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"  at /etc/default/grub but it doesnt work 4 me
[07:07] <dr_willis> sherefe:  and you did rerun 'sudo update-grub' like all the docs mention?
[07:07] <seseww> so is this laptop doomed to run lubuntu like crap? bc i just installed to hdd
[07:08] <dr_willis> seseww:  no idea. Ive not had a similer laptop to test in ages. More ram would most likely help a lot. if you can even find any ram for that thing.
[07:08] <seseww> it was manufactuared in 2010
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> seseww: how much RAM do you have?
[07:09] <seseww> its not old
[07:09] <seseww> 512mb
[07:09] <dr_willis> it could be more of a video card/driver issue making it sluggish in lubuntu
[07:10] <sherefe> dr_willis yes i did
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> seseww: should run lubuntu ok, keep to light apps and you should be ok, use browsers like midori
[07:10] <seseww> dr_wilis i suspect you may be right bc i cant use my webcam to talk to my dghtr 5hrs away without my computer crashing after a few mins
[07:10] <dirkle> how do you remove a repository after you've done "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:..."?
[07:10] <dr_willis> sherefe:  so give us detailas as to what its doing 'dosent work' tells us very little..
[07:10] <seseww> thats actualy why im trying lubuntu to see if it works better here
[07:10] <dr_willis> !info ppa-purge
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> dirkle: sudo ppa-purge ppa:
[07:11] <seseww> i have puppy installed and it totally crashes it or slows it wayyy down
[07:11] <dr_willis> Puppy crashes the box? :) bad puppy..
[07:11] <amirwebdev2>  hey, when im trying to add project from network path with aptana i get: \\cpu1\home\dev\ is not a valid location. The location is relative to undefined workspace path variable '‪'. aptana
[07:11] <dr_willis> what video card is on that thing?
[07:12] <amirwebdev2> anyone has idea how to solve it?
[07:12] <sherefe> dr_willis when i erase quite splash and write text after rebooting on the screen text messaging but after all load gnome again but would like load gnome manually
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> seseww: is the ram healthy?
[07:12] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, i need to press keyboard shortcut twice to bring synapse. help?
[07:12] <dirkle> I'm getting an error "sudo: ppa-purge: command not found"
[07:13] <dr_willis> amirwebdev2:    you are entering the path \\servername\sharename in a file dialog? Normally one mounts samba/shares to a local directory ie: \media\networkserver\ then access  them as if they were a local directory
[07:13] <zykotick9> dirkle, "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" perhaps
[07:13] <dr_willis>  ppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional.
[07:14] <dr_willis> optional package.. is optional.. :) and not installed by default..
[07:14] <seseww> actionparsnip i have no idea
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: do you mean synaptic?
[07:14] <dr_willis> command not found --> so install it. :)
[07:14] <Abhijit> no
[07:14] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, synapse application launcher
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> seseww: hold shift at boot, select memtest from the menu
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: never used or heard of it, sorry
[07:14] <seseww> i got it as a gift bc it was all screwed up had malware so i wiped it and installed linux
[07:14] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, nvm
[07:15] <dirkle> dr_willis, sorry, I didn't see your message only the next guys
[07:15] <dirkle> thanks
[07:15] <seseww> ok tanks parsnip be right back
[07:15] <seseww> dr willis how do i check what video card i have on this beast
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: why not use alt+f2 ?
[07:16] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, synapse is much more thant just alt f2
[07:16] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, https://launchpad.net/synapse-project
[07:16] <seseww> anyone know how to see what video card i have i dont see it listed at all in system info
[07:17] <Abhijit> ok got to go bye
[07:17] <zykotick9> seseww, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> looks like gnomedo
[07:18] <seseww> ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[07:18] <seseww> dr_willis this is what i have
[07:19] <seseww> how can i check if the proper driver is installed for it and that its funxtioning up to par
[07:19] <seseww> and thankyou zykotick9: )
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> seseww: sudo lshw -C display | grep -i driver
[07:20] <seseww> or can anyone hep me check it, my problem is that skype is crashing after few mins
[07:22] <seseww> configuration: driver=radeon latency=66 mingnt=8
[07:22] <seseww> i got this actionparsnip
[07:22] <williamchan_> whats the correct way to add a ssh-agent to autoload my ~/.ssh/id_rsa .. is there something that integrates nicely with xfce?
[07:23] <Guest74209> has anyone here ever had a translucent half screen appear on top of the working window?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> seseww: looks good to me, your chip will use the open driver
[07:24] <Guest74209> if i move the cursor quickly to the left of screen it appears,but if i move it slowly (cursor) it can be avoided
[07:24] <termitor> hello, i'm searching for a tools thas automated sort of files and folders based on rules, somebody know a program like that ? (sorry for my bad english)
[07:24] <seseww> ok thankyou actionparsnip
[07:24] <zykotick9> Guest74209, is it exactly half the screen - sound like it could be the windows ?snap 1/2 screen feature thing???
[07:25] <seseww> i will check my ram now for errors like you sugested
[07:25] <Guest74209> yes,it is half screen,it does appear to be that function
[07:25] <zykotick9> seseww, i believe it take quite a while...
[07:26] <Guest74209> i think it appeared when i was attempting to open the dashboard
[07:26] <Guest74209> and sometimes the dash doesn't want to open
[07:27] <Guest74209> how is the 1/2 screen snap function usually backed out of?
[07:27] <eden6000> Today is Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2011/11/its-human-beings-who-make-ubuntu/
[07:27] <Guest74209> just by maximising each screen?
[07:27] <eden6000> Thanks everybody :-)
[07:28] <dr_willis> williamchan_:  that would be a bashrc or .bash_profile command  from what i recall from my read of 'oreiallys using bash' book the other day
[07:29]  * dr_willis hopes that eden6000 dident just post some XXX link.. been seeing a lot of that lately in here.
[07:29] <sherefe> dr_willis every time gnom starting i dunno how fix it can u write what i need edit in /etc/default/grub exactly thanx
[07:30] <dr_willis> willis@CowBuntu:~$ GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash text"
[07:30] <dr_willis> is whats in mine.
[07:31] <dr_willis> i normally put in a 'nofb' also :)
[07:31] <dr_willis> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nofb text"
[07:31] <bullgard4> aptitude-gtk > Aptitude Package Manager > aptitude 0.6.4-1ubuntu2 > Info on aptitude > Tab Popcon shows only an entry "popcon". --  What does "popcon" mean?
[07:31] <sherefe> do u have ubuntu 11.10 ver dr_willis ?
[07:32] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever even heard of an aptitude-gtk front end befor bullgard4  :)
[07:32] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Its new!
[07:32] <dr_willis> sherefe:  yes. On a Headless box. :) so i dont  need X starting at all on it.
[07:32] <dr_willis> not sure why we need another package manager front end. :) but if you like it..
[07:33] <bullgard4> dr_willis: I thought so too. I am just testing it for the first hour. I will form my judgement in due time.
[07:34] <dr_willis> sherefe:  i normally disable the graphical grub menu also.
[07:34] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[07:34] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[07:35] <dr_willis> and if you want some muzak when you boot.....
[07:35] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[07:35] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[07:35] <dr_willis> doh wrong paste.
[07:35] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <dr_willis> Star Wars Imperial Death March:
[07:35] <dr_willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 4 440 4 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 8 659 4 659 4 659 4 698 3 523 1 415 4 349 3 523 1 440 8"
[07:36] <zykotick9> dr_willis, hey that's cool - star wars grub.  thanks.
[07:36] <huamm_> hey, i have some problems in installing the terminal twitter earthquake, when i run this command " git clone http://github.com/jugyo/earthquake.git " out like this " Initialized empty git repository in /home/xx/earthquake.git/ | cant get remote repository information | , and this text come out at the terminal " paste.ubuntu.com/743957/
[07:37] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  its also very very LOUD...
[07:37] <zykotick9> dr_willis, well, that's not ideal...
[07:37] <dr_willis> for super mario.....
[07:37] <dr_willis> Star Wars Imperial Death March:
[07:37] <dr_willis> super mario --> echo "GRUB_INIT_TUNE=\"1000 334 1 334 1 0 1 334 1 0 1 261 1 334 1 0 1 392 2 0 4 196 2\"" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub > /dev/null && sudo update-grub
[07:37] <sherefe> dr_willis GRUB_TERMINAL=console uncommented
[07:38] <dr_willis> those are the only 2 grub 'tunes' ive managed to google up.
[07:39] <dr_willis> : GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 900 2 1000 2 800 2 400 2 600 3" for the "Close Encounters" greeting message
[07:39] <dr_willis> that one at least is quick and short. and  not too annoying.
[07:39] <sherefe> dr_willis thanx so much now it work
[07:39] <sherefe> sherefe hug dr_willis
[07:39] <pangolin> vibhav: can you speak?
[07:40] <dr_willis> sherefe:  so you mist have missed a step. :)
[07:40] <sherefe> dr_willis before i edited like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[07:40] <pangolin> vibhav: ?
[07:40] <sherefe> dr_willis now how u said GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash text" and its okay
[07:41] <dr_willis> i suggested noquiet nosplash earlier also i think. :)
[07:41] <dr_willis> also in some box's i need to use 'nofb'
[07:41] <sherefe> dr_willis thanks i killed on it trouble 2 days
[07:42] <zykotick9> dr_willis, <not tried> wolfenstein 3d -- GRUB_INIT_TUNE="300 131 1 196 1 196 1 196 1 294 1 196 1 294 1 196 1 131 1"
[07:42] <dr_willis> noquiet = gives verbose messages, nosplash = disables plymouth , nofb = disables plymouth, text => a option passed to  tell gdm and other gui things to not start
[07:42] <sherefe> dr_willis where are you from ?
[07:42] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  :) i dont even recall the muzak in that game.
[07:42] <pangolin> vibhav: how about now?
[07:42] <vibhav> hello?
[07:42] <vibhav> Thanks pangolin
[07:43] <pangolin> welcome
[07:43] <ghabit> Hello. I'm lookining for easy and nice dlna|upnp media server. Help! ^)
[07:43] <zykotick9> dr_willis, nor i, but i bet once i hear it, it will come back ;)  I loved that game when it came out.
[07:43] <sivang> hi all, is there a way to put back the windows controls to the rigth in 11.10 ?
[07:43] <dr_willis> !controls
[07:44] <dr_willis> sivang:  i know ubuntu-tweak can do it. and most likely theres other ways.
[07:44] <sivang> dr_willis: there was a gconf way in 10.10 but I can't find gconf-editor anymore. Has it been removed?
[07:44] <pythonirc1011> when i install linux-headers, at the end I see blcr...fail...what does that mean?
[07:45] <dr_willis> sivang:  it would be dconf these days i think
[07:46] <Ampelbein> pythonirc1011: Most likely some variant of bug 700036
[07:47] <sivang> dr_willis: ah, so Ubuntu switched to dconf already? Do you have an idea if this is the conf system in Fedora as well?
[07:47] <dr_willis> sivang:  i think its more of 'gnome switched'
[07:47] <dr_willis> but ive not looked into it much other then skimming the various gnome-shell and unity tweak pages
[07:50] <pythonirc1011> Ampelbein: do i need to be worried about it?
[07:52] <Ampelbein> pythonirc1011: Depends. Do you need blcr? If not, just remove it and the error will be gone.
[07:56] <surisaabh> hella
[07:57] <smallcms> sherefe, hilou, is the turkish chenol?
[07:57] <sherefe> smallcms ÷óìà
[08:02] <pythonirc1011> Ampelbein: what is blcr good for? I never installed it myself...
[08:04] <pythonirc1011> got it: Berkeley Lab Checkpoint/Restart.
[08:04] <Ampelbein> pythonirc1011: It's a tool to fully save and restore running processes from/to a file. If you have aptitude installed on your system you can use 'aptitude why blcr-dkms' to find out what pulled it in. Alternatively, just remove it.
[08:04] <pythonirc1011> Ampelbein: Thanks.
[08:05] <pythonirc1011> openmpi
[08:05] <pythonirc1011> reboot
[08:05] <vibhav> pythonirc1011: what do you mean by that?
[08:05] <pythonirc1011> oops, sorry -- that was for my ubuntu box :)
[08:06] <pythonirc1011> my blcr dependency came from openmpi
[08:08] <amagee> hey is it still possible somehow to install software from the main ubuntu apt repositories on karmic?
[08:08] <auronandace> amagee: karmic is no longer supported
[08:10] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. Is there a way to INSTALL ubuntu 11.10 with gnome instead of unity? TIA!
[08:10] <auronandace> !gnome3 | nimbiotics
[08:10] <vibhav> nimbiotics: You can remaster the 11.10 cd
[08:11] <amagee> auronandace: so does that mean it's absolutely impossible to use the apt repositories that used to exist?
[08:11] <auronandace> amagee: they probably no longer exist because karmic is no longer supported
[08:12] <auronandace> amagee: use a supported release
[08:12] <nimbiotics> vibhav: How do u dod that?
[08:12] <auronandace> !eol | amagee
[08:12] <amagee> yeah i get it
[08:12] <pangolin> nimbiotics: use the supported method ubottu told you about a couple lines up
[08:13] <auronandace> !remaster | nimbiotics
[08:13] <vibhav> !remaster | nimbiotics
[08:13] <pangolin> nimbiotics: if you remaster the iso and have problems there is no way for us to support you.
[08:13] <cloudgeek> Hi all
[08:13] <vibhav> exactly
[08:15] <Flannel> amagee: You can switch to old-releases.ubuntu.com, but that should be a stopgap while you schedule an upgrade to something secure.
[08:16] <Wisnia> anyone knows commercial unixes?
[08:16] <amagee> oh awesome, that's exactly what i was looking for, thanks Flannel
[08:16] <nimbiotics> pangolin: I did install gnome but I am nevertheless with so many problems I'm even considering using another distro. Also, Ithink I read somewhere that I can use gnome2 is that so? and how?
[08:16] <auronandace> Wisnia: and you are asking that here because?
[08:17] <Flannel> amagee: the EOL Upgrades link a few lines ago contains the necessary sources.list entries (theyre very similar to your current ones)
[08:17] <pangolin> nimbiotics: if you are running 11.04 you can use gnome-classic (gnome2)
[08:17] <auronandace> !gnome2 | nimbiotics
[08:17] <piousminion> Can I choose which DE I want from the normal install iso?
[08:17] <vibhav> piousminion: By default , Unity is installer
[08:17] <pangolin> piousminion: no, but you can download the iso for the DE you want
[08:17] <vibhav> installed*
[08:18] <nimbiotics> !notunity
[08:18] <pangolin> piousminion: so Kubuntu for KDE and so on
[08:18] <piousminion> So I can't install kubuntu/lubuntu from the ubuntu disc?
[08:18] <auronandace> piousminion: either install the one you want after or use a derivative
[08:18] <piousminion> That's retarded. :/
[08:18] <pangolin> piousminion: they are separate iso's
[08:19] <nimbiotics> !classic
[08:19] <Flannel> piousminion: If it's important to you to install both of them "from a CD", you can do so with the alternate CD.  But I'm not sure why it's at all important.
[08:20] <piousminion> Flannel: It's important because I'm creating a live usb which options for various distros and 3+ ISOs are smaller than 1.
[08:20] <nimbiotics> vibhav, pangolin & aurodance, THX
[08:20] <auronandace> !mini | piousminion
[08:20] <pangolin> nimbiotics: sure thing
[08:20] <ghabit> Hello. I'm looking for dlna|upnp media server. Help! ^)
[08:21] <piousminion> auronandace: does this include options of selecting (or deselecting) specific DEs?
[08:21] <pangolin> ghabit: see minidlna
[08:21] <Flannel> piousminion: mini ISO is just the alternate CD without packages, from the sound of it, you're interested in including packages on the media.
[08:21] <jettlarue> hi my computer just shut off, anyone know the command to see what might have caused it?
[08:21] <iceroot> ghabit: xbmc, mythtv
[08:21] <auronandace> piousminion: install whatever you like, it downloads from the internet what you need
[08:21] <ghabit> pangolin, iceroot, thank you!
[08:21] <piousminion> Flannel: net install is fine as long as I have a choice of DE.
[08:21] <pangolin> welcome
[08:22] <piousminion> auronandace: you didn't answer my question. :P
[08:22] <ghabit> pangolin, iceroot, i have samsung tv with allshare. Maybe some of them recommended? Thumbnaiis, fast forward, fast reverse etc?
[08:22] <Ampelbein> jettlarue: You can look in /var/log/syslog to check for a reason
[08:22] <auronandace> piousminion: if you know what you are installing then yes you can choose whatever desktop you like
[08:22] <pangolin> ghabit: no idea, I did a quick search for dlna and came up with minidlna
[08:23] <jettlarue> ok thanks alot ampel!
[08:25] <jettlarue> ampel, it says nothing in the timeframe, it seems to be ordered sequentially is it though?
[08:25] <nimbiotics> One of the problems I don't even know how to describe and, as it only happens while playing UrT, I feel I've been denied help before; but it has to do with this new version of ubuntu as it hasnt happened before and I've had no problem with the windows boot on this machine: While playing, eery now and then I see the screen flash very fast and whatever key(s) I might be pressing at the time...
[08:25] <nimbiotics> ...are lost, so I have to press them again if I want to continue walking, for example.
[08:27] <auronandace> nimbiotics: if that is running under wine then you should ask in #winehq
[08:28] <Ampelbein> jettlarue: yeah, it's ordered by time.
[08:28] <nimbiotics> auronandace: not at all, I'm talking about Urban Terror's linux version
[08:28] <auronandace> oh, ok
[08:29] <jettlarue> alright, well thats odd. however thank you! this happened when running android emulator and had never happened before however the screen has flashed- possible mobo issue(since integrated gfx) but this worries me
[08:30] <jettlarue> worth submitting bug report?
[08:31] <Ampelbein> jettlarue: The first thing the bug triager will ask if you have any logs showing the problem.
[08:32] <Ampelbein> jettlarue: Can you reproduce it?
[08:34] <jettlarue> eh i can try- no logs makes me think it is mobo just cutting power because there was nothing in the syslog, and there was no freeze just instant power off although i have never dealt with a kernel crash so I wouldnt know what to expect
[08:35] <Ampelbein> jettlarue: If you have a way to reproduce, run 'sudo service apport start force_start=1' and then do whatever it takes to produce the crash/powerdown. apport will catch the most problems and offer to create a bug report with necessary data.
[08:36] <jettlarue> alright, will do! thank you for the help
[08:44] <fokuslee> where is the guestaddition iso for vbox? i can't find it under my /opt/ folder in ubuntu
[08:46] <bekks> fokuslee: Press Host+D.
[08:47] <Ampelbein> fokuslee: The iso is in /usr/share/virtualbox
[08:47] <m4k> ho
[08:48] <m4k> plz hlp me how to download ubuntu 11.10 alternate cd
[08:49] <elky> m4k, http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/
[08:50] <fokuslee> Ampelbein, i only see vbox.sh and vboxsysinfo.sh, what is it called?
[08:51] <fokuslee> Ampelbein, could not find Virtualbox Guest Additions CD image file /usr/share/virtualbox/VboxGuestAddition.iso
[08:51] <m4k> how to dwnld ubuntu 11.10 alternate cd
[08:51] <Ampelbein> fokuslee: VBoxGuestAdditions.iso, but of course you need to install the package virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[08:52] <Ampelbein> m4k: 'wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso'
[08:52] <dark2> Hey everyone. Is it worth upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10?
[08:53] <fokuslee> Ampelbein, ok thanks i didn't know its a separate pkg installing right now
[08:53] <robertzaccour> can i capture ps3 gameplay with an hd-pvr on a netbook netbook in ubuntu?
[08:53] <iceroot> dark2: never touch a running system
[08:54] <Ampelbein> dark2: That question is kinda hard to answer because everyone has different priorities. Do you encounter any serious issues with 10.10 that are fixed in 11.04? If so, then upgrade, if not: what iceroot said.
[08:54] <iceroot> robertzaccour: maybe not 1080p because of limited hardware
[08:56] <dark2> I really don't have any serious issues, other than having to re-enable my second monitor on each boot. I know support for 10.10 won't last forever, so I was wondering if I should just upgrade now, before April.
[08:57] <MrS1lentcz> hi, is somebody here? :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> youmay  be able to fix your monitor with some xrandr commands dark2
[08:57] <amirwebdev2> how do i enable to user to run as sudo commands ? now i need everytime to write sudo command...
[08:57] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:   nope. :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> amirwebdev2:  thats how its normally done.
[08:57] <bekks> amirwebdev2: If you want to run sudo commands, you have to write sudo ...
[08:57] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update, and so on...
[08:57] <dark2> dr_willis: The second monitor works just fine, it's simply annoying to have to re-enable it from the AMD CCC each boot.
[08:58] <dr_willis> dark2:  its posible the xrandr tools/commands may let you automatically enabel it.
[08:58] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: i see, so i will begin to ask :D
[08:58] <amirwebdev2> there is no option to enable user to write without sudo
[08:58] <amirwebdev2> ?
[08:58] <Ampelbein> amirwebdev2: no.
[08:58] <dr_willis> amirwebdev2:  that wouldent be very secure. or reliable.
[08:58] <dark2> dr_willis: and how would I go about doing that?
[08:58] <dr_willis> !xranr
[08:58] <bekks> amirwebdev2: Erm, No.
[08:58] <dr_willis> !xrandr
[08:59] <qmanjr5> What would be the most efficient way to download a YouTube video and then convert it into some form of music format in Ubuntu?
[08:59] <dr_willis> dark2:  the xrandr command and soem front ends to it. i normally just use nvidia :)
[08:59] <bekks> amirwebdev2: If you want to run a command, you have to run the command. You cannot expect a user to run a command without specifying it.
[08:59] <christine__> coucou
[08:59] <dark2> I think my mind went blank looking at that page.
[08:59] <dr_willis> qmanjr5:  ive seen web sites that do that. or theres various youtube downloader tools./extenesions, then you could use winff or ffmpeg, or mencoder.
[09:00] <MrS1lentcz> i installed ubuntu successfully, but after start ntb black screen are only blinking.... so i try repair grub2 - no result... i think its something with MBR....
[09:00] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  you see the grub menus? hit shift if its hidden..
[09:00] <sivang> will installing gnome2 from universe make my Ubuntu desktop go back to look like it was in 10.04 ?
[09:01] <iceroot> qmanjr5: filsh.net, youtubeconverter (firefox-plugin), youtube-dl, googlecl (packages), also see apt-cache search youtube
[09:01] <dr_willis> sivang:  theres no old-gnome-2 in the repos for 11.10
[09:01] <dr_willis> sivang:  thers some classic look-alikes.
[09:01] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: no
[09:01] <sivang> hmm
[09:02] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  so the system totally hangs black screen nothing else? no messages at all?
[09:02] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: yeah
[09:02] <sivang> seriously people, while unity is nice for touch based devices, on a developer's desktop it feels wrong.
[09:02]  * dr_willis reccomends looking into and learning unity and gnome shell and learning how to tweak them as you want.
[09:02] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  i controller hdd with testdisk, but no errors...
[09:02] <sivang> dr_willis: I'll check the tweak tool, what's his its name again?
[09:02] <MrS1lentcz> *controlled
[09:02] <dr_willis> theres the old-skool type desktops of xfce and  lxde
[09:03] <dr_willis> sivang:  theres several. the webupd8 blog site has a good list of unity tweaks. and the askubuntu.com site has a nice list of indicator-applets, quicklists, and lenses
[09:03] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: wonna se a boot_check log ouput?
[09:03] <MrS1lentcz> *see
[09:04] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  i doubt if it will tell me much. But you could pastebin it fo the channel to look at.
[09:04] <L551> Can someone here help me fix flash not going fullscreen? On places like youtube, etc.
[09:04] <sivang> !unity
[09:04] <sivang> !nounity
[09:04] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: yeah, i known... so just a minute :)
[09:05] <robertzaccour> can i record my ps3 gameplay with an hd pvr on a netbook?
[09:07] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: here you are... http://pastebin.com/TgkQHZYi
[09:07] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: i think... its about "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of     the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks     for  on this drive."
[09:08] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: "looks at sector 1 of..." does not have to be there something as : "looks as partition #num" ? ....
[09:08] <Asicka> Âñåì ïðèâåòèê
[09:08] <MrS1lentcz> *looks at
[09:09] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: are you here? :)
[09:11] <robertzaccour> can i record my ps3 gameplay with an hd-pvr on a netbook?
[09:13] <MrS1lentcz> :(
[09:15] <MrS1lentcz> is someone here?
[09:15] <MrS1lentcz> able for help me.. :)
[09:18] <Varazir> Is there a way to upgrade a ubuntu server with out loging in to it and run apt-get upgrade manually ?
[09:19] <orogor> hi here
[09:19] <orogor> i just upgraded my install and now when i login i dont have a systray, taskbar or unity launcher
[09:19] <orogor> anyone has an idea?
[09:20] <almoxarife> orogor: you logged into 'unity'
[09:21] <almoxarife> ?
[09:21] <MrS1lentcz> orogor:  hi, have you a few minutes? i have problem with MBR...
[09:21] <natalia> hi yesterday i instal gnome-shell ald advenced setting for it
[09:21] <natalia> byu know i don't what shuold i do to have it on my computer? :)
[09:21] <orogor> almostroot: i dotn have the option fpr unity i think
[09:22] <orogor> i have tried gnome clasic, default was ubuntu and there s also ubuntu2d
[09:22] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: an issue with mbr ?
[09:22] <quatar-it> hello... i have a problem with my webcam (sony vaio built-in). Here is a screenshot of how it appears on camorama: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7277207/webcam-fucked.png . It's the same also on cheese, google talk, etc
[09:23] <MrS1lentcz> i am solving a problem a few days with broken boot :(
[09:23] <quatar-it> it wasn't corrupted until some days ago
[09:23] <robertzaccour> can i record gameplay from my ps3 with an hd-pvr on a netbook?
[09:24] <orogor> almoxarife: haa sorry answered t the wrong person , see answer above
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: after start pc my ntb has a blinking black screen in "point", where it should show a grub menu...
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> *after start my ntb...
[09:25] <natalia> so i see that i must try one more :)
[09:25] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: i have a boot_info_screen log... wonna see it ?
[09:25] <natalia> can someone help me?
[09:25] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: i am into console mode , can t launch any app into the gui right now
[09:25] <m4k> how to dwnld ubuntu alternate cd
[09:26] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: you changed anything on your computer that could have caused this ?
[09:26] <m4k> how to dwnld ubuntu alternate cd
[09:26] <orogor> new drive, new dvd player, new usb stick , ubuntu upgrade, do you have raid?
[09:26] <m4k> helphow to dwnld ubuntu alternate cd
[09:27] <M5k> Hlp me
[09:27] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: i try install ubuntu... in first sucessfully, but unity is terrible, so i try install kubuntu - error occured, so i try install ubuntu again, and i want install kubuntu-destkop after it
[09:27] <alteregod> m4k use google
[09:28] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: i afraid of this part of boot_info_script.sh : "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of     the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks     for  on this drive."
[09:28] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: somewhere in example, there is into: "looks at partition #num_of_bootable_partition" but no "looks at sector..."
[09:28] <natalia> how to install gnome?
[09:30] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: i try reinstall grub and mbr with "grub-install..." by wiki tutorial, but no change
[09:30] <MrS1lentcz> natalia: maybe something as "gnome-destkop"
[09:31] <quatar-it> any idea about why my webcam decided to paint like wahrol did?
[09:31] <MrS1lentcz> natalia:  apt-get install gnome-destkop and etc....
[09:31] <natalia> MrSilentcz yesterday i have installed gnome-shell and advanced setting for it
[09:32] <Varazir> no way to do it ?
[09:32] <natalia> but now i cannot find it and install :P
[09:32] <obert> hello.how to open a .ppt?
[09:33] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: and you did a fresh install each time , wipping the disk every time , or you asked it to keep data ?
[09:33] <bekks> Varazir: No way.
[09:33] <Varazir> ok
[09:34] <szal> Varazir: how are you gonna do anything on a machine without logging in?
[09:34] <Ampelbein> obert: With libreoffice impress you can open/create ppt files
[09:34] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: i set partition manager manually, so i always format linux partition and install there. i have to install ubuntu after win7 as dualboot
[09:35] <bekks> MrS1lentcz: You can do it the other way around, too.
[09:35] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: haa, and whom manage boot , windows bootloader or grub?
[09:35] <obert> Ampelbein: noticed that.but no idea if i'm doin it right: i see only a blank page
[09:36] <obert> Ampelbein: right click on .ppt and it'll asks to open it with that Impress
[09:36] <Varazir> szal: I mean more of auto update a remove host
[09:37] <Ampelbein> obert: Could be that the ppt uses some tech that's not yet working in impress.
[09:37] <Ampelbein> obert: What version of powerpoint did you use to create the ppt?
[09:37] <obert> surely i got that libreoffice-impress though
[09:38] <obert> no idea Ampelbein they sent me
[09:38] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: when i repair mbr by grub installer, i think grub manage a boot...
[09:38] <obert> no more normal file ext outthere?:P
[09:39] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: but on start ntb black screen are only blinking, so i cant know it
[09:40] <Ampelbein> obert: The problem with ppt (and really all other MS Office fileformats) is that it's a closed format so the developers of free software have to reverseengineer them. If it doesn't work in impress, chances are that the file was created with a recent powerpoint.
[09:41] <obert> ok Ampelbein
[09:41] <Ampelbein> obert: You could ask the sender to convert to a more widely known format like pdf.
[09:41] <obert> i hope that i'll can find some other ways
[09:41] <bekks> Ampelbein: Which cannot be edited by libreoffice ;)
[09:41] <obert> do you get office Ampelbein? :)
[09:42] <obert> if not working==recent powerpoint version. meh. thanks for now Ampelbein
[09:42] <Ampelbein> bekks: There are a bazillion pdf converters out there though.
[09:44] <obert> Ampelbein: pptview would be a try?
[09:44] <obert> 256MB :(
[09:45] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: when you say grub manage a boot , you see the menu or not ?
[09:45] <Ampelbein> obert: it's from 2009, but sure, you can try.
[09:45] <obert> oh
[09:46] <Xelmep> How to enable TUN Device in Ubuntu 10.04 server ?
[09:46] <Ampelbein> obert: scratch that. The last upstream release was 2005...
[09:46] <sobersabre> hi.
[09:46] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: no, i said... there is only blinking black screen... i cant boot any system... I am on live cd(usb flash) ...
[09:46] <sobersabre> I am on maverick, and I'm trying to run a java application server (weblogic)
[09:46] <obert> Ampelbein: i wouldnt that they used a ppt just to type some words. in that case a pdf would be good. otherwise it is a problem
[09:46] <obert> bah
[09:46] <sobersabre> at some point the process simply STALLS and does nothing. (as I see it)
[09:47] <obert> thanks for now
[09:47] <sobersabre> and I don't like this.
[09:47] <sobersabre> I would like to be able any system related restrictions are off.
[09:47] <orogor> MrS1lentcz: you have a  single hard drive ?
[09:47] <sobersabre> Where can I see how to disable things like apparmor, polkit, etc. ?
[09:47] <orogor> could u have mixed up hda and hdb for exemple?
[09:47] <MrS1lentcz> orogor: yeah
[09:48] <Ampelbein> obert: I know the pain. That's why I block any and all doc/xls/ppt documents at my mailserver and send an automail explaining the problem with non-free document formats. Of course, for most employees that's not an option. I can't help you further, sorry.
[09:48] <Xelmep> How to enable TUN Device in Ubuntu 10.04 server ?
[09:49] <obert> mhmh thanks for now Ampelbein
[09:49] <obert> Ampelbein: i just dunno what everytime could happens when i start a new project;)
[09:50] <obert> Office is expensive too..they buy OS and Office..meh
[09:51] <obert> and i cannot buy just a hd because of money too.
[09:51] <aaron2020> helllloooo
[09:51] <obert> 75euro = 500GB sata. pff
[09:52] <aaron2020> where's that at? expensive man
[09:52] <Xelmep> How to enable TUN Device in Ubuntu 10.04 server ? HELP PLEASE !!!
[09:52] <obert> aaron2020: because of Thailand
[09:52] <aaron2020> whats this obert
[09:52] <aaron2020> something to do with the ongoing trade agreements and not new tech?
[09:53] <obert> aaron2020: hd prices are too high and daily random till 2012 here, because of crisis
[09:53] <aaron2020> ahh right
[09:53] <aaron2020> i gave away 4tb :((
[09:53] <obert> penguin hates me
[09:53] <aaron2020> regreting it when i seen the prices
[09:54] <aaron2020> probably a lot cheaper to buy flash sticks...
[09:55] <MrS1lentcz> orogor:  any ideas? :(
[09:56] <aaron2020> nope , no more 1000gb flashes for a few hundred :((
[09:56] <aaron2020> honestly data collection is bogus man
[09:56] <aaron2020> waste your whole life doing it
[09:57] <aaron2020> one micro sd for photo's and one jig for m4a's
[09:57] <Xelmep> How to enable TUN Device in Ubuntu 10.04 server ? HELP PLEASE !!!
[10:00]  * tommylommykins waves
[10:01] <MrS1lentcz> orogor:  but... when i run testdisk... it wrote sda1 is bootable and sda6 (grub partition) is primary... and fdisk wrote sda6 is bootable...
[10:01] <tommylommykins> is 11.10 still broken with ATI/AMD hardware out-of-the-box?
[10:01] <Ampelbein> Xelmep: You could try the workaround described in bug 565856, put 'install tun /bin/true' in modprobe.conf
[10:04] <tommylommykins> also
[10:04] <tommylommykins> I seem to be having issue where when I select Gnome Classic
[10:04] <tommylommykins> most of unity still appears
[10:04] <tommylommykins> so when I pres alt+F2, I get both gnome-2's launcher, and the unity launcher
[10:04] <tommylommykins> in 11.04
[10:04] <tommylommykins> Does anyone know a fix?
[10:05] <aaron2020> format?
[10:05] <tommylommykins> format?
[10:05] <aaron2020> why spend hours figuring it out
[10:05] <tommylommykins> The disk?
[10:05] <aaron2020> just back up data and format
[10:05] <aaron2020> yup
[10:05] <tommylommykins> :|
[10:05] <p390> hello everybody
[10:06] <aaron2020> hello 98
[10:06] <tommylommykins> FOrmatting is a little labour intensive though
[10:06] <aaron2020> formatting is a few mouse clicks these days
[10:06] <p390> x11vnc how it works
[10:06] <aaron2020> not like its windows 95
[10:06] <tommylommykins> formatting is
[10:06] <Ampelbein> tommylommykins: Can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy gnome-session' ?
[10:06] <tommylommykins> Reinstaling isn't
[10:06] <aaron2020> no way
[10:06] <aaron2020> updates are troublesome, not formatting
[10:06] <aaron2020> 11 minutes or less for install
[10:06] <p390> x11vnc how it works
[10:06] <p390> x11vnc how it works
[10:07] <aaron2020> just make a hd image in future after you first install os and all apps
[10:07] <aaron2020> then its like 8 mins
[10:08] <aaron2020> better yet portable os
[10:08] <aaron2020> everything has usb
[10:08] <tommylommykins> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/cq02d1z0
[10:08] <aaron2020> unless your computer actually says ibm
[10:08] <aaron2020> :P
[10:08] <tommylommykins> Anything out of the ordinary?
[10:09] <tommylommykins> aaron2020: Reinstalling is my usual tactic for windows
[10:09] <aaron2020> yeah xp days :(
[10:09] <tommylommykins> I generally find I've configured Linux too much to make it easy
[10:09] <zaxonspox> hello, where is stored "Ubuntu icon" file for main menu in top-left corner?
[10:09] <tommylommykins> Plus, Linux has a lot of small bugs like this
[10:09] <aaron2020> that'd be right tomlom
[10:09] <tommylommykins> I'd be reinstalling all the time
[10:10] <Ampelbein> tommylommykins: looks ok. Do you see any problems in /var/log/lightdm?
[10:10] <aaron2020> well just submit a report to the del's and wait 3 months
[10:10] <aaron2020> thats usually their deadline
[10:11] <aaron2020> pay someone and its a day to be fixed :))
[10:11] <tommylommykins> Ampelbein: /var/log/lightdm does not exist
[10:11] <aaron2020> sure you could find a few techs on the web
[10:11] <Ampelbein> tommylommykins: oh, 11.04. It was gdm used back then.
[10:12] <aaron2020> updates rock :)
[10:13] <aaron2020> i sold 2tb for 54 AUD, seen the guy reselling it with an auction of 140 saying straight from the warehouse refurb... the joys of ebay
[10:14] <MrS1lentcz> :(
[10:15] <ouyes> do you know any network disk sites?
[10:15] <aaron2020> the worst part is,,, it had 14 bids ='(
[10:15] <Zta> How do I completely reset my Unity desktop settings?  It's completely fubar.  Neither the dash nor the system menus to the right of the system tray appears. The only reason Pidgin starts is becasue it's set to autostart.
[10:15] <aaron2020> hmm i generally use ubuntu, 5gb is all you need
[10:15] <aaron2020> you could peddle filetube.com for names of sites
[10:15] <aaron2020> media has quick up thresh
[10:15] <aaron2020> soz mediafire
[10:16] <Zta> I tried adding a new user on my system, and that user's desktop looks nice; so it must be an issue purely related to configuration.
[10:16] <Ampelbein> Zta: 'unity --reset'
[10:16] <Zta> I tried "unity --reset" but doesn't reset much really
[10:16] <aaron2020> try a restart zta?
[10:16] <aaron2020> os's don't like working unless connected to the net too :))
[10:16] <Zta> aaron2020: what good would a restart do?
[10:17] <aaron2020> you never know zta
[10:17] <aaron2020> with the way ngo's are these days and the so called "security"
[10:17] <aaron2020> more like data collection
[10:17] <Zta> aaron2020: This isn't Microsoft Windows.  Reboots won't save you here.
[10:17] <aaron2020> serious
[10:17] <aaron2020> rebort might help
[10:17] <aaron2020> example
[10:18] <Zta> nono
[10:18] <aaron2020> boot into ubuntu 11.10 without network connection, try changing the password
[10:18] <Zta> How do I make my Unity useful again?
[10:18] <aaron2020> enjoy glitches :))
[10:19] <Zta> If only I could rm -fr ~/.unity but these days are over since every app is using that freggin' gconf crap.
[10:19] <aaron2020> i'm new to lin :((
[10:19] <tommylommykins> is 11.10 still broken with ATI/AMD graphics hardware out-of-the-box?
[10:19] <aaron2020> always is
[10:19] <aaron2020> ati got crappy del's
[10:19] <Ampelbein> Zta: you could also try deleting the ~/.compiz-1 directory, 'rm -rf .compiz-1'
[10:19] <georgieee> tommylommykins, mine is working
[10:19] <Zta> Ampelbein: Okay, that's where it lives.  I'll try..
[10:20] <dr_willis> my one ati box works with 11.10 fine
[10:20] <aaron2020> no cross liaison
[10:20] <lulzilla> any idea why I am getting permission error for: sudo echo deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart dist 10gen >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <Zta> Crikey my theme has also died; my terminal is all gray
[10:20] <lulzilla> root has rw access
[10:20] <aaron2020> hardware fault lulzilla?
[10:20] <dr_willis> you dont combine redirectioon with sudo like that lulzilla
[10:20] <aaron2020> try cleaning connects
[10:20] <aaron2020> or stolen equipment
[10:20] <lulzilla> oh, how do you do it?
[10:21] <dr_willis> either use the 'tee' command, or use a root shell to do the command
[10:21] <aaron2020> requires an exchangeable torx with phillips screwdriver :))
[10:21] <theadmin> lulzilla: command | sudo tee filename
[10:21] <Ampelbein> lulzilla: sudo doesn't work that way. 'echo deb blah | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:21] <theadmin> Or tee -a if you need to append
[10:21] <Zta> Ampelbein: is there a nice and clean way to log out of Unity when you don't have the option to choose logout from the menu?  sudo killall -9 Xorg is so brutal...
[10:21] <lulzilla> arrrrr thanks guys
[10:21] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:22] <dr_willis> first example shows how to use tee with sudp
[10:22] <dr_willis> sudo
[10:22] <lulzilla> thanks a ton
[10:22] <aaron2020> anyways, you guys are nice, hope to see you all again! tc
[10:22] <Ampelbein> Zta: good question. I don't know the answer though.
[10:22] <Zta> kill it is
[10:22] <theadmin> lulzilla: Hey no problem :) Also, use "sudo -i" to get a root shell, but be careful with it
[10:22] <Ampelbein> Zta: I would just restart the loginmanager (lightdm or gdm)
[10:22] <dr_willis> guess he figured it ut
[10:22] <dr_willis> :)
[10:23] <lulzilla> :)
[10:24] <Zta> Moving .compiz-1 out of its place didn't help a bit.
[10:25] <theadmin> Zta: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:25] <pk> So is there a reason I can't use a Precise Pangolin kernel in Oneiric?
[10:25] <theadmin> pk: It would depend on Precise packages, of course, that's why
[10:26] <theadmin> pk: Well, not "depend", but all the modules and such
[10:26] <theadmin> pk: What's wrong with the current kernel?
[10:26] <pk> theadmin, hmm ok so what would be the best way to build a 3.2 (rc2 or later) kernel with ubuntu patches and some of my own?
[10:27] <Zta> theadmin: My theme has changed into something ugly, my left menu (dash?) doesn't appear, my top menu only shows the menu items of the desktop (File, Edit, View...) and not the system tray not the system menus (with logout, etc).  Basically my desktop is screwed and I simply want to restore it into something useful again.
[10:27] <theadmin> pk: May I wonder why?
[10:27] <theadmin> Zta: Try this: unity --reset
[10:27] <MechanisM> hello help me to fix ubuntu. just installed ubuntu-weak 0.6.0 for 11.10 one. and applied some additional repositories and upgraded system and after reboot I see only wallpaper of lightdm login screen
[10:27] <Zta> theadmin: I did.  Doesn't help.
[10:28] <lor3> hi guys
[10:28] <pk> theadmin, sure, I just got the Asus Zenbook and a lot of fixes to my hardware and power management has gone into 3.2 and additional ASPM-patches
[10:28] <theadmin> Zta: Hm, allright, this one is a bit evil -- it resets all the GNOME settings, but I beleive it should help for sure: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /
[10:28] <MechanisM> there were conflicts with gimp I already has gimp and plugins and in tweak applied gimp svn repo. and while upgrade i seen errors for gimp
[10:28] <Zta> theadmin: can I just unset the unity parts, please? =)
[10:28] <abonec> hello, is there any way to to run some file from command line in default application that assigned to this type of file?
[10:28] <lor3> how do I get to install alsa on ubuntu minimal? thanks
[10:29] <jrib> abonec: xdg-open
[10:29] <jrib> !software | lor3
[10:29] <Zta> theadmin: I can I save the setting of all apps into different files first, and then restore them one by one after the recursive-unset?
[10:29] <abonec> jrib, thx you
[10:30] <iceroot> lor3: sudo apt-get install lasa-base   should do the task
[10:30] <iceroot> lor3: sudo apt-get install alsa-base   should do the task
[10:30] <theadmin> Zta: My apologies, I forgot GNOME 3 no longer uses gconf, it uses something new and weird (dconf) and I have no idea how to deal with it
[10:30] <Zta> theadmin: btw: unity --reset doesn't seem to finish.  It hangs in a Setting Update "initiate_key"
[10:30] <abonec> where in ubuntu 11.10 i can setup preferred applications to file types?
[10:30] <Zta> Linux has become so complex...
[10:31] <Jordan_U> Zta: It didn't "finish" because it started Unity again. The command won't exit until you exit unity.
[10:31] <theadmin> Zta: Linux? lol, Linux has always been complex. What happened is Ubuntu becoming weird.
[10:31] <Zta> message busses and configuration daemons all over...
[10:31] <lor3> thanks iceroot, but I have already installed but not working
[10:31] <theadmin> abonec: File properties, "Open With" thingy
[10:31] <pk> theadmin, so, no good way for 3.2 ?
[10:31] <theadmin> pk: There should be some for sure, just... hm...
[10:32] <Zta> theadmin: Once upon a time everything thing had its own configuration file.  It was easy to backup, reset, restore and change.  Now it's just one big magic blob that you hope works.  If it breaks, you're doomed.
[10:32] <Zta> Jordan_U: I see.
[10:32] <iceroot> lor3: then why asking how to install it when it is installed already?
[10:32] <abonec> theadmin, is there way to mass assign programs, not one at time?
[10:32] <theadmin> Zta: Yeah, well... Use some desktop environment which doesn't store settings in some pseudo-registry (i.e. not gnome)
[10:32] <iceroot> !doesntwork | lor3
[10:32] <Gisterogue> Morning guys. Can anyone suggest a command line tool or app to see what model my graphics card is so I can download the relevant drivers?
[10:33] <pk> I've tried the prebuilt from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but I'd like to get a patch or two of my own in
[10:33] <theadmin> Gisterogue: jockey-cli
[10:33] <llutz> Gisterogue: lspci
[10:33] <jrib> abonec: not really, unless you want to edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list manually
[10:34] <Gisterogue> llutz: Ah superb :) Radeon HD 4350 it is!
[10:34] <Gisterogue> Thanks also theadmin :)
[10:34] <theadmin> Gisterogue: No problems.
[10:34] <abonec> jrib, may be some utilites available?
[10:35] <theadmin> Gisterogue: jockey would download them for you as well :D
[10:35] <jrib> abonec: I do not know of one
[10:35] <abonec> jrib, ok, thx
[10:35] <Gisterogue> theadmin: I'll bear that in mind :)
[10:35] <Gisterogue> Isn't it amazing what driver support there is these days. Love it.
[10:36] <Jordan_U> Gisterogue: You shouldn't gernally install drivers (or anything else) from outside the repositores. "jockey-text" (terminal based) or "jockey-gtk" (GUI based, also called "Additional Drivers") will detect what drivers are needed and install them for you.
[10:36] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Oh, it's "jockey-text"...
[10:39] <Gisterogue> Jordan_U: So, installing from the offical manufacturer web site is a bad idea?
[10:39] <Jordan_U> Gisterogue: Correct.
[10:40] <Gisterogue> That's interesting.
[10:40] <Gentoo64> Gisterogue, you can do what you like. But it's cleaner and easier to use the repos
[10:44] <goo__> test
[10:47] <theadmin> goo__: Response.
[10:49] <Cupenoruler> server www.chatcafe.net
[10:50] <Cupenoruler> Oh～ sorry～
[10:51] <manixor> Hey guys. I'm a little not satisfy about my Ubuntu. It's working very slow. I have a Toshiba Satelitte, 3 years old with amd64 thurion. I need to do something else after I install ubuntu on it? Instal video driver etc?
[10:52] <theadmin> manixor: That wouldn't speed anything up...
[10:53] <Guest45231> anybody there??
[10:53] <dr_willis> whats slow about it abnd wgats the vudeo card?
[10:53] <dr_willis> 1552 people here. :) but not all are all here.. :P
[10:53] <manixor> theadmin: What can be the reason for working so slow? I remember that I had on this leptop, 2 years ago, Debian, and it working preaty OK.
[10:53] <manixor> theadmin: windows working ok too
[10:53] <Zta> I've deleted (moved to ~/BACKUP/) my .gconf* .gnome* .compiz* .local .cache .fontconfig from my homedir.  My desktop is still broken.  What else is there to delete?  Mind you that newly added users have a perfectly nice and working desktop, so I hardly think a general configuration is broken.
[10:54] <dr_willis> Zta:  .config perhaps
[10:54] <Gentoo64> manixor, could be unity acting sluggish
[10:54] <dr_willis> Zta:  as a test. make a new user. see if they have the same issue.
[10:54] <manixor> Gentoo64: theadmin Is the 64 version more slow then the 32 version?
[10:54] <Gentoo64> nah
[10:54] <Zta> dr_willis: I did make that test.  You're right about .config though, how could I forget that ...
[10:55] <dr_willis> 64 shhouldent be slower then 32bit version
[10:55] <Gentoo64> manixor, i reckon its probbaly the new UI that feels slower
[10:55] <Zta> Let me logout and see..
[10:55] <Gentoo64> manixor, what ubuntu version is it?
[10:55] <manixor> Gentoo64: lates, 11.10
[10:56] <almoxarife> manixor: look at the gnome-system-monitor, anything that looks excessive?
[10:56] <Zta> .config it was!
[10:57] <dr_willis> someday perhaps most apps will get their config files in .config   :)
[10:57] <Zta> yes
[10:57] <dr_willis> then we can backup .config via ubuntu one.. :)
[10:57] <Zta> sci-fi
[10:58] <manixor> almoxarife: both cpu around 30/40 and memory around 40
[10:58] <almoxarife> manixor: how much mem/?
[10:58] <Xan> morning
[10:59] <Xan> for the 1st time in years distrowatch scores ubuntu as #2...
[10:59] <Jordan_U> !ot | Xan
[10:59] <iceroot> Xan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <manixor> almoxarife: 1.8 GiB
[11:00] <almoxarife> manixor: what version are you running?
[11:01] <natalia> hw to install gnome? where is that?
[11:01] <manixor> almoxarife: 11.10 x64
[11:02] <manixor> almoxarife: when I open my home folder, both cpu goes over 80%, and it's open like on repleay
[11:02] <almoxarife> manixor: me too, toshiba also, I thought unity ran slower overall than gnome shell, I seemed to get a bit snappier after tossing compiz
[11:03] <almoxarife> manixor: goes to 80% but then decreases ?
[11:03] <manixor> almoxarife: yes, goes back to 30/40
[11:04] <MechanisM> how can I login to my broken system from livecd?
[11:04] <jrib> MechanisM: why?
[11:04] <manixor> almoxarife: so unity desktop can be the problem?
[11:04] <almoxarife> manixor: look at the 'start-up-applications' , there are a few processes there that you may not need
[11:04] <dr_willis> you would 'chroot' into the  installed system and attempt fixing it normally
[11:05] <diablos> i restarted my computer after setting a second monitor using NVIDIA X server setting, now my second monitor display a completely white screen and i cant disable it
[11:05] <almoxarife> manixor: I won't say it's a problem, I will say that once I switched to gnome-shell without compiz I felt like the machine was running like good ole 11.04
[11:06] <manixor> almoxarife: I was thinking to try this too
[11:06] <manixor> almoxarife: I will check how to do it, and see the diff
[11:06] <MechanisM> jrib to fix it
[11:06] <almoxarife> manixor: good luck
[11:07] <manixor> almoxarife: thanks
[11:09] <dr_willis> MechanisM:  to fix what exactly. One normally uses 'chroot' to fix things if needed
[11:09] <shockrates> hey
[11:09] <TheBaus> anyone here?
[11:09] <dr_willis> yes
[11:10] <TheBaus> what is the command to sunc my clock/
[11:10] <TheBaus> in terminal
[11:10] <diablos> i didnt have an easy time setting up my duel monitors but it was working untill i restarted
[11:11] <theadmin> TheBaus: sync?
[11:11] <theadmin> TheBaus: As in, with an ftp server?
[11:11] <TheBaus> yes
[11:11] <theadmin> TheBaus: err, ntp*
[11:11] <TheBaus> my clock is out of sunc
[11:11] <theadmin> TheBaus: "sudo ntpdate" should do it.
[11:11] <MechanisM> dr_willis yep I need chroot then. but dunno how to use it
[11:11] <theadmin> TheBaus: But you'll have to log out and back in to see the effect in the GUI
[11:11] <dr_willis> MechanisM:  what are yoyu trying to fix exactlY?
[11:11] <TheBaus> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo ntpdate
[11:11] <TheBaus> 20 Nov 13:11:44 ntpdate[2791]: no servers can be used, exiting
[11:11] <TheBaus> theadmin:
[11:12] <TheBaus> wtf
[11:12] <theadmin> TheBaus: It's probably not configured?
[11:12] <TheBaus> mm
[11:12] <TheBaus> i miss openntpd
[11:13] <dr_willis> i get same thing here.. guess its not set to any servrs by default
[11:13] <theadmin> TheBaus: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/basic-ntp-config.html
[11:14] <dr_willis> server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[11:14] <dr_willis> server 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[11:14] <dr_willis> are set in the default ntp.conf file
[11:14] <theadmin> dr_willis: Oh? Then it's rather odd that it doesn't work
[11:14] <natalia> hwo to install gnome?
[11:14] <dr_willis>  sudo service ntp restart
[11:14] <theadmin> !notunity | natalia
[11:14] <dr_willis> works here..
[11:15] <dr_willis> natalia:  gnome3 is installed by default on 11.10. using the unity shell...
[11:15] <MechanisM> not sure whats wrong yet. system loading and I see only background of lightdm login screen and mouse.
[11:15] <TheBaus> theadmin:  i run service restart, ntpdate still doesnt work
[11:15] <TheBaus> anyway
[11:16] <dr_willis> MechanisM:  theres the rescue./revovery and text mode you can use to get to the console.
[11:16] <TheBaus> is there openntpd available for ubuntu?
[11:16] <theadmin> !find openntpd
[11:16] <natalia> i have gnowe-shell but i dont know what to do next :P
[11:16] <theadmin> theadmin: ^
[11:16] <natalia> gnome
[11:16] <dr_willis> natalia:  clarify what you want to do..
[11:16] <natalia> i want to change graphic
[11:16] <theadmin> natalia: Log out, click on the little thing icon near the login name place, choose "GNOME", then log in
[11:16] <dr_willis> natalia:  clarify some more .... what you want to do..
[11:17] <theadmin> dr_willis: She wants to switch to Gnome Shell from Unity.
[11:17] <dr_willis> ;) you must be the mind reader today.
[11:17] <Vertt>  /part #ubuntu
[11:18] <SS-X> test
[11:18] <dr_willis> !test
[11:18]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps yotis
[11:19] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nope, she just explained it well enough :D
[11:19] <theadmin> dr_willis: She stated she has installed gnome-shell but doesn't know what to do next.
[11:19] <theadmin> dr_willis: So... it's pretty obvious, in my opinion.
[11:19] <natalia> dr_willis: yesterday i install gnome-shell
[11:19] <dr_willis> they really could do some work on the lightdm login screen.. peopele totally overlook that little gear
[11:19] <diablos> what is the difference in TwinView and Separate X screen
[11:20] <dr_willis> they could have a big arrow., and previews of the differnt desktops
[11:20] <natalia> dr_willis: today i want to run it but i dont know how and i try some small icon near login but i dont have any gnome :P
[11:20] <dr_willis> twinview = one big wide (or tall) display across 2 monitors
[11:20] <dr_willis> seperate  x = 2 totally seperate sessions.. they could even be differnt users on each monitor.
[11:20] <ceephax_____> tried sudo shutdown -h now
[11:21] <ceephax_____> get nothing
[11:21] <blop> hello
[11:21] <dr_willis> and if you set up the keybords./mice right. you could have 2 people on the same pc :)
[11:21] <Gentoo64> ceephax_____, tried -h -P now?
[11:21] <diablos> thanks i think i fixed my second monitor
[11:21] <diablos> at least untill i restart
[11:21] <ceephax_____> Gentoo64: no still not working
[11:21] <dr_willis> you did save the changes to the xorg.conf file diablos ?
[11:22] <Gentoo64> ceephax_____, i dont know what the problem your having is :)
[11:22] <ceephax_____> Gentoo64: lol cheers
[11:22] <diablos> yeah last time i did but when i restarted the second monitor when all white screen of death
[11:23] <Gentoo64> ceephax_____, so whats the problem?
[11:23] <ceephax_____> Gentoo64: fixed it dude, had a arrogant service running that wouldnt stop
[11:23] <Gentoo64> ok
[11:23] <ceephax_____> Gentoo64: kill it
[11:23] <ceephax_____> Gentoo64: cheers for chat, laters :)
[11:25] <MrS1lentcz> back :)
[11:26] <MechanisM> dr_willis I tried to fix broken pakages via console in recovery mode. but it's can be fixes some dependencies errors.
[11:26] <tsousa> nex version of ubuntu will have 3.1.x series?
[11:28] <iceroot> tsousa: #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <MrS1lentcz> after instalation i installed grub manually, but grub.cfg in OS section is empty, how can i detect os automatically ?
[11:29] <MrS1lentcz> i have win7 and ubuntu 11.10 on sda2 and sda5 :))
[11:30] <brontosaurusrex> anybody running jupiter applet on 10.10?
[11:30] <Stanley00> !anyone | brontosaurusrex
[11:31]  * dr_willis wonders what Jupiter applet is...
[11:31] <itsupport> hello guys
[11:31] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  are you here?
[11:31] <dr_willis> hmm?
[11:31] <brontosaurusrex> anybody running jupiter applet on 11.04 and if so, how do i benchmark it?
[11:31] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  i think i repaired
[11:32] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  grub will be start, but grub.cfg is empty, so it starts only bash-like console
[11:32] <itsupport> I wanna buy  a new laptop, which brand should i prefer coz i want to install ubuntu or any other linux distro but not windows
[11:32] <dr_willis> if you mean the grub console.. well that would make sence.
[11:32] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: is something generator for installed os on disk?
[11:32] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:   check ouyt the fixgrub guides
[11:32] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[11:33] <poopdick> just ran the upgrade to 11.10 ... what is this horrible new window manager it is enforcing on me??? where is my gnome desktop??????????
[11:33] <zaxonspox> itsupport, i would suggested ASUS
[11:33] <itsupport> please help guys, I'm new to linux but i love it
[11:33] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  ok, thx
[11:33] <dr_willis> itsupport:  check out the ones sold with linux/ubuntu preinstalled perhaps.   avoid the ones with the dual-video card setups.
[11:33] <Stanley00> itsupport: I heard that Dell has some laptop with OEM ubuntu
[11:33] <itsupport> ASUS ???
[11:33] <dr_willis> itsupport:  and it also pays to get the models that have been out for a while. not ones that just came out.,
[11:34] <itsupport> ya one of my friend recomended dell
[11:34] <dr_willis> itsupport:  its more of a matter of what chipsets re in the laptop. not always the spefific brand./maker
[11:34] <ikonia> be aware that the dell oem ones is not a stock ubuntu install
[11:34] <zaxonspox> poopdick, its gone - Unity have replaced Gnome, you need to manually install gnome
[11:35] <itsupport> dr_willis: how abt samsung and what are the main specs that i should take care of?
[11:35] <poopdick> zaxonspox, UGH...thats pretty fscktarded, considering i already had it installed on 11.04
[11:36] <dr_willis> an ok unity manual -> http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/04/my-effort-at-writing-help-for-unity.html   go read it poopdick  perhaps..
[11:36] <zaxonspox> poopdick, you might have, but in 11.10 Canonical done the work to force Unity as The Only One
[11:36] <dr_willis> itsupport:  gpu, and wireless chipset are the main things.
[11:36] <Myrtti> poopdick: the problem stems from the fact that gnome2 isn't supported by Gnome anymore
[11:36] <brontosaurusrex> ok, let me refraze: how would one benchmark a powersaving app, without staring at the batteri life?
[11:36] <dr_willis> Unity, or gnome-shell, or install some other desktops if you want
[11:37] <poopdick> zaxonspox and/or dr_willis : ok next question: after i (re)install gnome. will it show up in the list of window managers on the gdm login screen?
[11:37] <zaxonspox> itsupport, i suggest you to choose a brand and model of notebook, then google for it like: Ubuntu Lenovo G550 and check the opininions whats work, whats not
[11:37] <dr_willis> poopdick:  the old gnome is dead... there is a rather poor 'fallback' gnome2 look alike mode.. but thats it
[11:37] <itsupport> ya thats a good idea
[11:38] <Stanley00> brontosaurusrex: if your laptop has some power sensor, if not, use battery, I think
[11:38] <dr_willis> poopdick:  its unity, or gnome-shell  or one of the gnome-falback modes
[11:38] <poopdick> dr_willis, what about the supposed gnome3
[11:38] <dr_willis> poopdick:  thats gnome-shell
[11:38] <brontosaurusrex> Stanley00, how do i read those sensors?
[11:38] <zaxonspox> poopdick didnt checked, but read, that you have to put some work to be able to choose gnome into gdm choose list
[11:38] <Stanley00> brontosaurusrex: just run "sensors" in terminal
[11:39] <poopdick> dr_willis, im willing to give it a try... just hoping the install process will put gnome back into the gdm dropdown
[11:39] <dr_willis> http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Gnome_Shell_vs_Unity
[11:39] <dr_willis> poopdick:  11.10 uses lightdm. and  there should be a 'gnome (gnome shell), and ubuntu (unity) entries  in the login screen menus
[11:39] <brontosaurusrex> right, only some temperature there Stanley00
[11:40] <poopdick> zaxonspox, damn, that blows huge chunks of rotting excrement.
[11:40] <Stanley00> brontosaurusrex: well then, you have to use battery, I'm afraid
[11:40] <poopdick> dr_willis, hmmm. interesting. right now there are no such entries, but i assume you mean after i install gnome shell
[11:40] <dr_willis> gdm and lightdm and kdm all use the same set of XXXX.desktop files to put what items in their desktop menus
[11:40] <oCean> poopdick: we won't allow that kind of language here. Also, please change your nick
[11:40] <dr_willis> poopdick: try starting lightdm instead of gdm perhaps.
[11:40] <EuroNerd> How can I set the top panel (menubar) to be transparent?  (compiz config is not an option - doesn't work with unity)
[11:41] <dr_willis> compiz does work with unity EuroNerd  - ...
[11:41] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: in ubuntu 11.10?
[11:41] <poopdick> oCean: i cant speak about the pile of steaming, rotting waste products that unity is compared to gnome?
[11:41] <dr_willis> unless you mean unity 2d
[11:41] <dr_willis> poopdick:  if you want any more support... you should  change the attitude.
[11:42] <poopdick> dr_willis, whats the diff between unity and unity 2d
[11:42] <dr_willis> gnome2 was rather lacking in many ways..
[11:42] <oCean> poopdick: not in such wording, no. Also, I'm not going to argue here about your nick, change it now please
[11:42] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, yes.
[11:42] <dr_willis> unity2d has none of the fancy effects. its designed as a fallback mode for lower end harware
[11:42] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  btw is possible, that grub menu didnt started (only bashlike console), alghought in grub.cfg are 2 items ( memtests ) ?
[11:42] <xiangxw_> unity2d don't need 3d card
[11:42] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  there should be quite a bit of stff in the default grub.cfg
[11:42] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, sorry, I meant the CompizConfig app.
[11:43] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: are you sure the compiz config not work? It works in my case.
[11:43] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  if you run 'sudo update-grub' it should show all found os's and so forth. and generate a new grub.cfg
[11:44] <excrementalist> oCean, why so humorless.. fecal phallus is a valid - but perhaps witless - expression of angst with the sudden changes to my ubuntu install upon upgrading.
[11:44] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  oh, but i have to do in chroot, yeah?
[11:44] <dr_willis> rants are for another channel excrementalist
[11:44] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, I just installed it and tried to change sth and it completely f#cked up my desktop. Had to spend 20min searching for a solution on the web to restore it.
[11:44] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  thats how its normally done. if you cant boot the installed system. but it may be a sign of bigger issues that the installed ystem dident generate one properly to begin with
[11:45] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: it there, in the unity plugin config, the experience tab, panel opacity
[11:45] <zaxonspox> how to change entry title in GRUB2 ?
[11:45] <dr_willis> !grub2 | zaxonspox
[11:45] <xruud> is there any disk image software for ubuntu that will make an image of partitions that can be restored if ubuntu somehow fails?
[11:45] <dr_willis> zaxonspox:  by editing the files in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
[11:45] <dr_willis> !backup
[11:45] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, as I just said, CompizConfig is dangerous and I uninstalled it and will never touch it again, until it's fixed thoroughly to work with Unity.
[11:46] <dr_willis> xruud:  mondo/mindi, dd,  and perhaps a dozen other tools.
[11:46] <EuroNerd> So is there some command line trick to set top panel transparency?
[11:46] <dr_willis> compizconfig dangerous? never noticed...
[11:46] <zaxonspox> dr_willis, like file /etc/grub.d/10_linux ?
[11:46] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: compiz config works as a charm on my laptop, as long as you dont mess up so much :D
[11:46] <dr_willis> zaxonspox:  yep.  those scripts generate the grub.cfg
[11:47] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, just go to Ubuntu Software Center and read some comments.  To a newbie it's VERY dangerous.
[11:47] <dr_willis> EuroNerd:  i never use software center..
[11:47] <dr_willis> and the definition of 'dangerous' is vague here. :)
[11:47] <kernelpanicker> where should I put an alias?  I put it in ~/.bashrc but have to run 'source .bashrc' to get it to run... thoughts?
[11:47] <zaxonspox> dr_willis, and is it posiible to get rid of the first line of text in GRUB2 like "grub1.98~packet_version_ubuntu" etc ?
[11:48] <whackeddragon> hello, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Windows computer and it works great but in the grub menu there is both Ubuntu and Windows 7 and when I click on Windows 7 only GRUB reloads… does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:48] <dr_willis> zaxonspox:  never noticed. most likely possible.. if you edit the proper files..
[11:48] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, it doesn't matter if u use it, just see the comments.
[11:48] <dr_willis> kernelpanicker:  check the .bashrc and .bash_profile files.. they mention how to include new alias's in some section.
[11:49] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: the command way is dangerous too, it just depends on who is using it...
[11:49] <dr_willis> kernelpanicker:  if you add new stuff to .bashrc you would have to start a new shell or use source .bashrc to get them read.
[11:51] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, yes, you can do the equivalent of "format c:\" in command line, but that's proactive danger.
[11:51] <Chousuke> reload
[11:51] <Chousuke> oops
[11:52] <kernelpanicker> dr_willis: thx!
[11:52] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, dr_willis, actually all I did in CompizConfig was go to the "About" section to see the version number. And it completely messed up my Compiz and Unity. Here's a testimony of what happens: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70866/how-to-reset-compiz-unity-to-defaults
[11:52] <Simpson_2> is there a specific channel for gwibber questions ?
[11:54] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: AFAIK, compiz config is the easiest tool to config unity, as long as you dont set up any other plugins
[11:54] <EuroNerd> So is there a way to set top menu bar transparency other than CompizConfig? E.g. in command line?
[11:55] <pinguy_> how do i stop my computer from asking for pass word every time it blanks the screen ?
[11:55] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, I was using the default installation and didn't really have the chance to go to any plugin config. It's just very buggy and dangerous with Unity.
[11:55] <Ampelbein> pinguy_: In the screensaver options.
[11:56] <pinguy_> thanks amp
[11:56] <mauro> pinguy: don't do that
[11:56] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: then, maybe you should install gconf-editor tool, this tool is very dagerous too, but I prefer it to the gconftool command
[11:57] <pinguy_> mauro, ? what can i do then ?
[11:57] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: I think the key you should change is at /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/panel_opacity
[11:57] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, I have gconf-editor, use it and it never ever failed me.
[11:58] <EuroNerd> Stanley00, thank you! That is precisely what I needed!  :) :) :)
[11:59] <Stanley00> EuroNerd: you are welcome :)
[12:01] <WanderingEnder|s> Got an odd problem with I think grub on 10.04 LTS.
[12:01] <ratanparai> I am having problem with Software center
[12:01] <WanderingEnder|s> box boots, then drops to busybox bitching about it can't find /dev/disk/disk-by-uuid/(UUID that is found via ls)
[12:01] <ratanparai> While removing it got an error
[12:01] <WanderingEnder|s> I exited, and lo and be hold.
[12:01] <WanderingEnder|s> I'm in shell like normal.
[12:02] <ratanparai> (Reading database ... 150986 files and directories currently installed.) Removing software-center ... dpkg: error processing software-center (--remove):  unable to securely remove '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center.menu': Not a directory Processing triggers for man-db ... Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Processing trig
[12:02] <Simpson_2> is there a way to send private message with gwibber ?
[12:02] <ratanparai> can anyone help me
[12:02] <WanderingEnder|s> >.> Is it possible TO remove Ubuntu Software Center?
[12:02] <ratanparai> Now cant intall any software using apt-get too
[12:03] <zaxonspox> WanderingEnder, from menu or from system?
[12:03] <WanderingEnder|s> zaxonspox: ratanparai removed Software Center, or tried. It seems he failed and he's hosted his apt install.
[12:03] <WanderingEnder|s> zaxonspox: hosed, not hosted.
[12:04] <ratanparai> Ya
[12:04] <zaxonspox> WanderingEnder, dont understand "hosed", but on package problem i used something like dpkg --reconfigure
[12:05] <WanderingEnder|s> ratanparai: Talk to zaxonspox. :)
[12:05] <WanderingEnder|s> zaxonspox: You don't know how to check grub, do you, for errors? :)
[12:06] <zaxonspox> WanderingEnder, if GRUB have errors, it shows it, and stops working
[12:06] <WanderingEnder|s> zaxonspox: Will it drop to busy box?
[12:06] <ratanparai> do i have to reinstall my ubuntu for fixing the problme?
[12:07] <WanderingEnder|s> got it... its a kernel command line issue, i think.
[12:07] <ratanparai> zaxonspox: can you help me?
[12:12] <Zta> Regarding resetting Unity/Gnome/whetever desktop environment, these are my instructions should anyone find themselves in the same pickle =): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70572/reset-unity-and-gnome-to-default-values/80988#80988
[12:12] <michael> what some are usb creater alternatives?
[12:13] <cari_veri_ud> Hi there. where to get a list of local ubuntu 11.10 official repositories?
[12:13] <zaxonspox> ratanparai, what messages do you get when trying apt-get install ?
[12:15] <Guest99158> what are some usb creator alternatives?
[12:15] <dwatkins> cari_veri_ud: the software sources window has an 'other...' option as descripbed here, is that what you're after? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:15] <zaxonspox> ratanparai try dpkg-reconfigure software-center or dpkg-reconfigure apt
[12:16] <theadmin> Guest99158: unetbootin, dd.
[12:16] <mtrx93> Hello, i have some problems, im using ubuntu on android smartphone, and now apt-get cant acces packages from ports.ubuntu.com. Im using karmic bcos i have arm6 cpu. Any ideas? I there any other mirrors? Sorry for my english.
[12:16] <Guest99158> theadmin thanks
[12:17] <ikonia> milanoa: you're using the arm port ?
[12:19] <mtrx93> Anyone can help?
[12:19] <Draethelf> Hey, I'm having trouble mounting an external harddrive, anyone on to help?
[12:19] <wckd> Draethelf: describe your problem.
[12:20] <juniour> hi
[12:20] <juniour> i am using ubuntu 11.10
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> congrats
[12:20] <juniour> my unity is gone how to enable it
[12:20] <juniour> hi
[12:20] <Draethelf> If anyone knows anything at all, it'd be helping more than google is right now.
[12:21] <juniour> hi
[12:21] <WanderingEnder|s> !hi | juniour
[12:21] <WanderingEnder|s> oh come on, there should be a !hi
[12:21] <ikonia> there is no need for a factoid to say "hi" - you can just say "hi"
[12:21] <wckd> Draethelf: describe your problem?
[12:22] <WanderingEnder|s> ikonia: I thought it would be more along the lines of "hi, this is our support channel, please state your question or help others!"
[12:22] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: it's gone is fools abuse it
[12:22] <juniour> in ubuntu 11.10 tha in left adock is present that is gone
[12:22] <dr_willis> when in doubt fall back to the mount command and look for errors Draethelf
[12:22] <juniour> how to enable it
[12:22] <Draethelf> Okay, so I plug in my external, and it says "unable to mount 871 GB filesystem" Exit code is 12: NTFS signature is missing.
[12:22] <juniour> how to open compiz via terminal
[12:22] <dr_willis> juniour:  thats the unity 'panel' odd that its missing.. can you get to a terminal, via alt-f2, or alt-ctrl-t ?
[12:23] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: do you have a windows system you can plug that into?
[12:23] <dr_willis> juniour:  if you got a terminal the commands 'unity --restart' or 'unity --replace' may work.
[12:23] <juniour> ya
[12:23] <Draethelf> Then a second one pops up saying the same thing, but 329 or whatever (GBs)
[12:23] <Draethelf> .. I just did.
[12:24] <juniour> dr_wills not worked
[12:24] <juniour> dr_wills can you  how to open compiz via terminal
[12:24] <Draethelf> ... so lets pretend I'm totally new to Ubuntu... and linux in general... see, my ex installed it on my laptop, and I never had a problem with it before now.
[12:25] <Draethelf> Yes, I do. and it works fine on windows 7
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Sounds like you mounted it in windows and failed to "Safely Remove Hardware", in win?
[12:25] <WanderingEnder|s> Sidewinder1: that's what I'm thinking.
[12:26] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: Plug it in again, see if it complains and offers to fix the drive for you. Plug it into Windows 7.
[12:26] <Draethelf> Okay, lemme try Sidewinder.
[12:26] <cari_veri_ud> dwatkins: Yes . thank you. it helped. although the automatic "find best local server" fucntion did not work. That is what I wanted originally.
[12:26] <Draethelf> How the hell do I send a message to you in red?
[12:26] <whackeddragon> Hello, I have installed ubuntu on my machine and now i get the bash command line only.. don't know what I've done
[12:26] <juniour> hi can i use unity and rotate cube at a time
[12:26] <joansirley> hey all of you
[12:26] <whackeddragon> does anyone know what command to type to load a partition
[12:26] <oCean> !who | Draethelf
[12:27] <amt0101> Hi, where can I get GLIB_2.11? I tried synaptic and apt-get and can't find nothing.
[12:27] <Draethelf> !oCean like this?
[12:27] <usr13> Darkhacker: Put nick at first.
[12:27] <Draethelf> Nope.
[12:27] <WanderingEnder|s> No ! required.
[12:27] <oCean> Draethelf: yes, I see that as red. No need to start the line with the !
[12:27] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: Notice how I'm doing it?
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Other than that, a hardware problem with the HD, itself; perhaps you could run 'Disk Utility' from System--> Administration..
[12:27] <joansirley> I entered to try to solve a question but I will read your posts before asking
[12:27] <Draethelf> GAH!!! Okay, hold on... my screen is all red, lol!
[12:28] <Draethelf> Okay, so if I just type a name, then the message it'll go through to what, just that person?
[12:28] <cari_veri_ud> whackeddragon: could you login to a temrinal ? try startx first.
[12:28] <Draethelf> Sidewinder1 like this?
[12:28] <WanderingEnder|s> From CLI, how would I find the total number of downloads in the lubunut-desktop package?
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> Yes! :-)
[12:28] <Draethelf> Ah! Cool.
[12:28] <WanderingEnder|s> I forgot to wc it. :(
[12:28] <Draethelf> Okay, good to know.
[12:28] <usr13> Darkhacker: If you type the name, the person of that name will see it highlighted.
[12:28] <WanderingEnder|s> ... lubuntu-desktop even
[12:28] <dwatkins> cari_veri_ud: I imagine you're at a location which can't be geolocated by the servers, so your best bet is probably to choose manually, or ping to find the closest server :)
[12:29] <whackeddragon> No I can't get anywhere near terminal
[12:29] <whackeddragon> just when i start the computer I get minimal bash input
[12:29] <Draethelf> God, I want XP back. I'm starting to love linux, but there's still so much to learn! DAMN HIM FOR NOT TEACHING ME HOW TO USE THIS THING!!!
[12:29] <Draethelf> Okay, so I'm going to try some of the things you guys suggested.
[12:29] <Draethelf> One second.
[12:29] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: If you can, get everything off that drive, and format the thing to FAT32 or ext
[12:29] <cari_veri_ud> dwatkins: ok thank you. since I got a list now I can ping on them.
[12:30] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: That way, no more problems dealing with your external drive. FAT32 is readable by everything from Windows 7 to OS X to Ubuntu. ext is not, out of the box, readable by Windows.
[12:30] <usr13> Draethelf: Once you get used to is and learn a few things, you'll really like it.  Trust me.
[12:31] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, After we work out the ext HD problem, have a look here for a general 'How-to' for Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[12:31] <Draethelf> Okay, so I checked it on my W7 box, and it was okay, so I safely removed it.
[12:31] <joansirley> Ubuntu virtual machines help a lot in reading linux or mac partitions even form windows
[12:31] <joansirley> it's a method to consider
[12:31] <ikonia> joansirley: explain a bit more please ?
[12:31] <Draethelf> WanderingEnder|s I would, but that's gonna take more than a few hours and I need it tomorrow morning for a post I have to stand.
[12:31] <joansirley> ok ikonia
[12:31] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: Ew. Yeah, its something to deal with once you're off duty.
[12:32] <dD0T> Is there a way to get notifications to be interactive again in 11.10 with unity? I really don't buy the rationale given on the notifyosd page for non-interactive notifications. For me it's a bad joke I cannot react to chat notifications presented to me....sooo: Any ways to make them interactive again? Thanks.
[12:32] <Draethelf> Saving that, Sidewinder1. The link, that is.
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:32] <joansirley> if you have an external hard drive, usb for exemple, formatted in ext or hfs+ (mac) from windows an a  Ubuntu virtual machine
[12:32] <joansirley> you can read its contents
[12:32] <ikonia> joansirley: you know you can't run macos in an ubuntu virtual machine
[12:32] <Draethelf> WanderingEnder|s, are you military?
[12:33] <joansirley> well
[12:33] <WanderingEnder|s> joansirley: You can also install the ext2/3/4 drivers for Windows.
[12:33] <joansirley> thats my questions
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, This is another, general, good one:.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[12:33] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: Nope. Girlfriend's DoD though, and has a Army family. I used to work with a lot of transitioning mil to civ.
[12:33] <joansirley> I have a mac virtual machine that works in windows and vmaware 6.0.5 ..in every hardware
[12:33] <dwatkins> WanderingEnder|s: wow, they work?
[12:34] <ikonia> joansirley: check the legality of that
[12:34] <Draethelf> WanderingEnder|s I see I see. makes sense.
[12:34] <IMC_> Any daemonlogger geeks out here?
[12:34] <MatBoy> I'm busy with chromeless to show an app from a browser... is there also an alternative ?
[12:34] <joansirley> well i'm teacher
[12:34] <Draethelf> dwatkins: Who are you speaking about? The military?
[12:34] <WanderingEnder|s> dwatkins: I haven't used it in like 2 years, but it worked bac then!
[12:34] <ikonia> joansirley: that doesn't change anything
[12:34] <joansirley> and i use it for academic purposes
[12:34] <Draethelf> Oh... NEVERMIND dwatkins
[12:34] <Draethelf> Lol
[12:34] <ikonia> joansirley: that doesn't change anything
[12:34] <dwatkins> Draethelf: sorry, I should have been more specific, last time I tried the ext drivers in Windows they didn't work at-all, sadly - thank WanderingEnder|s - will give them a try again :)
[12:34] <joansirley> just academic non comercial aims
[12:34] <dwatkins> Draethelf: yeah, context is everything in a busy channel, sorry
[12:35] <WanderingEnder|s> ikonia: What's Ubuntu Virtual Machine use for virtualization? Xen?
[12:35] <joansirley> well ikonia that's an opinion
[12:35] <Draethelf> No problem, no problem dwatkins
[12:35] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: it can be used for anything that's legally allowed to run
[12:35] <WanderingEnder|s> joansirley: What's the base software running on your boxes? VMWare ESXi or VMWare?
[12:35] <amt0101> How do you install glibc_2.11 in ubuntu?
[12:35] <ikonia> joansirley: no, breaking the terms and conditions of mac OS license is not an option
[12:35] <joansirley> well wanderingEnders
[12:35] <Draethelf> Okay, so safely removing it from the W7 didn't fix it.
[12:35] <WanderingEnder|s> ikonia: Oh, I see... You're talking about legality, not technical ability.
[12:36] <amt0101> Google is of no help, tried synaptic, tried with apt-get but I can't seem to find it.
[12:36] <joansirley> i tried to install VMWare Server or workstation in ubuntu natty
[12:36] <joansirley> and
[12:36] <joansirley> uffff
[12:36] <MrS1lentcz> back :))
[12:36] <joansirley> I'm not able to do it
[12:36] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: well the technical ability is also questionable due to the efi requirements,
[12:36] <usr13> Draethelf: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Go to System-->Administration--> Disk Utility and have a look, there.
[12:36] <Draethelf> usr13: Gimmie a second. I don't remember, I'll figure it out
[12:36] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: while it is possible to simulate the efi stuff, it's not a solid solution
[12:36] <usr13> Draethelf: lsb_release -a
[12:36] <WanderingEnder|s> ikonia: Ah. ok. I've never wanted to, if I want OS X, I'll buy a mac.
[12:37] <MrS1lentcz> i have a question... i am repairing grub2 by wiki tutorial, but after command "update-grub" it writes : "Generating grub.cfg ... grep: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory grep: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory Cannot find list of partitions!  (Try mounting /sys.) done"
[12:37] <usr13> Draethelf: lsb_release -a  at terminal and hit enter (will tell you your Ubuntu version)
[12:37] <joansirley> even with a patch i am not capable of installing Vmware...always the linux sources problem
[12:37] <MrS1lentcz> what can i do ? :)
[12:37] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: HFS as solid read only capabilities in Linux anyway, so there shouldn't be a problem reading a disk
[12:37] <Draethelf> 11.04
[12:37] <Draethelf> Lol... natty?
[12:38] <joansirley> linux/include subdirectory problem
[12:38] <WanderingEnder|s> ikonia: I was thinking that except for NTFS (But I thought that NTFS was stable via fuse) we could read anything.
[12:38] <dwatkins> joansirley: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[12:38] <Draethelf> Sidewinder1: It shows up in the DU... which is weird...
[12:38] <joansirley> yes i have them installed
[12:38] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: NTFS has solid (but not perfect" write acces now
[12:38] <dwatkins> WanderingEnder|s: I've had success reading and writing NTFS from Ubuntu
[12:39] <Draethelf> Sidewinder1: but if I open the home folder, and try to click on the harddrive, it says "Cannot mount"
[12:39] <usr13> Draethelf: You probably need to plug it back into W7 box and run chkdisk on it and fix filesystem errors.
[12:39] <WanderingEnder|s> This box I'm on, right now, is a gateway/edge server for my home. Before this, I had it as a media center and fuze was writing to a NTFS drive over and over, no issue. That's why I was like, "wait, I thought FUSE fixed everything."
[12:39] <whackeddragon> Hey, I'm lost kinda need some help, have got myself into a real mess… installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my machine last night later in the morning tried to get back onto windows and it just kept reloading the boot choices screen.. I've now tried to install a boot repair tool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and it told me to restart…. now I can't access my computer at all and get [ minimal BASH-like line editing is supported ] screen.. I
[12:39] <whackeddragon> would seriously appreciatee all help  ; )
[12:39] <nobitanobi> Anyone who has tried to uninstall couchdb? I can't get rid of it. I still can fetch the server even when uninstalling it
[12:39] <Draethelf> Sidewinder1: Also, why does it list my harddrive as 2 HDD?
[12:39] <Draethelf> chkdisk? Okay, gimmie a sec
[12:40] <WanderingEnder|s> Draethelf: /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc2 or something like that?
[12:40] <dwatkins> joansirley: sorry, no idea beyond that - the last time I installed vmware that was all I needed, although I had to make sure I had the exact version matching my kernel. I assume there's a tutorial on this.
[12:40] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, What usr13 said.. 2 HDD is probably the Name you used for the disk in Win.
[12:40] <WanderingEnder|s> ... last time I installed VMWare, it was ESXi. :)
[12:40] <MrBaus> hey
[12:41] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: can you boot the live CD and make sure which partition is which, first of all?
[12:41] <joansirley> ok dwatkins I supposed that after so many tries I have to begin from the scratch
[12:41] <joansirley> thanks a lot
[12:41] <Draethelf> ... it doesn't have a name.
[12:41] <MrBaus> i just installed a ubuntu 10.10 dvd. What is the command to run in terminal to upgrade everything to the latest ubuntu?
[12:41] <Draethelf> No, I mean it's split.
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, In win, run chkdsk to fix errors.
[12:41] <usr13> Draethelf: "2 HDD"?
[12:41] <ghabit> Hello. Anyone have expirience with minidlna? 'Media directory not accessible!'
[12:41] <Draethelf> 2 Harddrives instead of 1
[12:41] <ghabit> error
[12:41] <whackeddragon> I can boot the cd… I know my partitions
[12:41] <dwatkins> joansirley: I can't say more without the specific error, sorry
[12:41] <whackeddragon> sda3 is main windows
[12:41] <nobitanobi> WHen trying to remove couchdb I get this: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 226 not upgraded.
[12:41] <nobitanobi> -- but I still can fetch the couchdb server. Any helps please?
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Two partitions on the drive.
[12:42] <joansirley> ok
[12:42] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: and can you mount them and see the relevant files, i.e. is the OS still there in each case?
[12:42] <MrBaus> HELLO
[12:42] <MrBaus> i just installed a ubuntu 10.10 dvd. What is the command to run in terminal to upgrade everything to the latest ubuntu?
[12:42] <joansirley> I will try everythinf again and tell you more exactly
[12:42] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: just trying to ascertain the basics.
[12:42] <joansirley> everything
[12:42] <whackeddragon> I don't know how to mount them from the [minimal bash like] screen
[12:42] <dwatkins> joansirley: ok cool, hope it goes well
[12:42] <joansirley> ;)
[12:42] <Draethelf> Sidewinder1: It's not partitioned though. Plus in the Disk Utility it shows up as one.
[12:42] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: what about the graphical live install CD, though?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Then I'm not sure.. :-(
[12:43] <Draethelf> Okay, so I run chkdsk on W7 and it opens the console, then closes out right away...
[12:43] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: you are booting into busybox, by the sound of it, or that's just the GRUB shell
[12:43] <Draethelf> DAMN YOU BOBBI!!!
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Draethelf, Bobbi for president! :-)
[12:43] <dwatkins> Draethelf: that's probably because it needs an option, try opening cmd.exe and supplying a disk to check?
[12:43] <whackeddragon> Yeah, it boots the disk and and asks me if i want to try or install ubuntu
[12:44] <Draethelf> Sidewinder: No! He's the reason for this problemQ
[12:44] <kwtm2> I pinned a package before, with /etc/apt/preferences, but can't remember how to do it any more, so I'm just following what I previously did by rote.  Can someone explain the following line please: "Pin: version 20.2010.36-2maemo13*" --what is the asterisk at the end for? (This is actually for a non-Ubuntu Debian device, but I'm hoping someone here can remind me about pinning package versions.)
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:44] <Browser> hi
[12:44] <dwatkins> whackeddragon: ok, you should be able to see what disks are mounted at that stage, but also you can run the partition tool to see the partitions, even if they're not mounted
[12:44] <Draethelf> dwatkins: console newbie here. Open cmd.exe... then type...?
[12:45] <whackeddragon> which option would I have to choose to see those?
[12:45] <szal> Draethelf: cmd.exe?
[12:45] <usr13> Draethelf: What drive letter is the external HD?
[12:45] <MrBaus> fuck ubuntu
[12:46] <oCean> MrBaus: control your language here, please
[12:46] <dwatkins> Draethelf: I don't have a windows machine to hand, but if you type 'chkdsk' at the command prompt, I imagine it will tell you that you need to tell it which disk to check, so try "chkdsk C:" - or use the GUI tool in the disk properties menu ;) - see here for the command line tool: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
[12:46] <Draethelf> usr13: I think it's K, but for the sake of the help, go with K
[12:46] <whackeddragon> I chose install and went a few forwards and can see a list of all of the partitions currently on my computer
[12:46] <usr13> Draethelf: chkfdisk k:
[12:46] <dr_willis> !upgrade | MrBaus
[12:47] <Draethelf> usr13: Ah, I see. One sec.
[12:47] <usr13> Draethelf: chkdsk k: Oh heck, I can't spel it right. Been too long ....
[12:49] <WanderingEnder|s> Ok, so, I just apt-get installed lubuntu-desktop. Short of a reboot, how do I get into ldxe?
[12:49] <Draethelf> Okay, chkdsk'ing it now.
[12:49] <dr_willis> WanderingEnder|s:  just log out and select it at the login screen. (gear icon)
[12:49] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: you'll need to reboot
[12:49] <Draethelf> Okay... now what?
[12:50] <Draethelf> chkdsk completed
[12:50] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: the new loging manager will need to be started
[12:50] <svt> hello
[12:50] <dr_willis> WanderingEnder|s:  did it ask you what *dm to use?
[12:50] <ikonia> (assuming you're also using the whole lxde setup)
[12:50] <WanderingEnder|s> This was going from unbutu-server to lubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <usr13> Draethelf: You can do it from the GUI:  Open the "Computer" window,  Right-click on the drive in question, Select the "Tools" tab, In the Error-checking area, click <Check Now>
[12:50] <WanderingEnder|s> (Ubuntu server is the only CD on hand around here)
[12:50] <ikonia> WanderingEnder|s: you'll need to start X up then
[12:51] <dr_willis> server? :) why do people always install servers then try to convert them to desktops..
[12:51] <Draethelf> usr13: I already ran it in the cmd.exe
[12:51] <Draethelf> usr13: Should I do it again in the GUI?
[12:51] <usr13> Draethelf: Ok very good. NO that's ok.
[12:51] <Draethelf> usr13: Okay, so now what do I do? I can barely make sense of all this mess.
[12:51] <WanderingEnder|s> dr_willis: Normally I only do servers, and my desktop DVD won't work on this box.
[12:52] <Draethelf> usr13: It says Windows checked and found no errors
[12:52] <dr_willis> WanderingEnder|s:  i saw some multi-disrto cd the other day. :) lost the url.. i really need to find and start using that.
[12:52] <dr_willis> WanderingEnder|s:  it grabed all the stuff from the net.  sort of handy
[12:53] <WanderingEnder|s> dr_willis: That would be useful to me as well. Most of my servers are actually 2003-20004 era, I get em cheap. BUT, they only have CD drives.
[12:53] <ruby_on_tails> how do i install the module gtkmozembed ?
[12:53] <WanderingEnder|s> This is a dual processor P3-800, for example. Good gateway box.
[12:53] <kaie> hello. where could I lookup which package version is the latest one being available as an update on ubuntu 10.4 LTS?
[12:54] <kaie> (without sitting in front of such a system - i.e. I'm looking for some place on the web to look this up)
[12:55] <ruby_on_tails> nvm got it on synaptec
[12:55] <dwatkins> kaie: have you searched on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - that should have what you need, I imagine
[12:56] <ragnarok> HEY
[12:56] <kaie> dwatkins, exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!
[12:57] <ragnarok> I am doing a apt-get upgrade. If i want to stop the upgrade/shudown my pc will the progress done in downloading the updates be saved?
[12:57] <dwatkins> kaie: welcome :)
[12:57] <Draethelf> usr13: Anything?
[12:57] <usr13> Draethelf: I dono. You may have to format as fat32   ntfs is problematic
[12:57] <Draethelf> AHHHHH that's the last thing I wanna do... but sometimes, It's the only answer.
[12:57] <Draethelf> DAMN YOU BOBBI!!!
[12:57] <FOCUS-HERE> I am doing a apt-get upgrade. If i want to stop the upgrade/shudown my pc will the progress done in downloading the updates be saved?
[12:58] <oCean> Draethelf: please calm down, and stop with the offtopic remarks
[12:58] <dwatkins> FOCUS-HERE: it's best to let it finish if possible
[12:58] <ghabit> any minidlna users?
[12:59] <dwatkins> ghabit: I tried it, then decided to use serviio instead
[13:01] <MechanisM> someone can recover ecryptfs home directory for $?
[13:02] <ghabit> dwatkins, i have an error 'media directory is not accessible' with minidlna, do you know how to fix it?
[13:04] <WanderingEnder|> Is there a channel for lubuntu?
[13:04] <dwatkins> ghabit: no, but I'd compare the permissions of whichever directory you've chosen against the user under which the application is running
[13:04] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to right click on panels in gnome-session-fallback when using compiz? alt+right click works in metacity but not compiz
[13:04] <WanderingEnder|> I have... questions, but don't want to ask on the wrong place, since its not Ubuntu.
[13:04] <ghabit> dwatkins, maybe it is because the directory on ntfs storage?
[13:05] <MrS1lentcz> :(
[13:05] <katsrc> hey, is there an openbox version of Ubuntu?
[13:05] <termitor> hello, i'm searching for a tools thas automated sort of files and folders based on rules, somebody know a program like that ? (sorry for my bad english)
[13:05] <katsrc> like Obuntu or something?
[13:05] <jrib> katsrc: just install regular ubuntu and then openbox
[13:05] <MrS1lentcz> when i am repairing grub2, update-grub has failed, where could by an error?
[13:05] <katsrc> jrib: aha, thanks
[13:05] <katsrc> lol
[13:07] <rykka> katsrc, lubuntu
[13:07] <katsrc> rykka: looking for more minimal than lxde, but thank you for the suggestion
[13:08] <rykka> katsrc, you can try archlinux
[13:08] <Clerisy> lowres is an aspie
[13:08] <katsrc> rykka: i donno if i can deal with all those configuration headaches
[13:09] <rykka> katsrc, it's easy, just follow their insall tutor on their wiki page
[13:09] <Musashi> anyone here knowing a bit about postfixadmin and sympa
[13:09] <Musashi> ?
[13:09] <rykka> katsrc, you could try it with virtualbox first
[13:09] <cablop> i want to install the xfce to a current server, but... but i don't want for the lightdm and other things to be replaced, is xfce4-desktop the  right package?
[13:09] <katsrc> rykka: do you think i should practice on vm first?
[13:09] <rykka> katsrc, yes
[13:10] <cablop> or should i install a diferent package?
[13:10] <katsrc> rykka: good suggestion
[13:10] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:10] <mang0> I'm setting up FTP (or trying too!). I've got Ubuntu's defult FTP client (run by "ftp" in terminal") and I'm now trying to set up an URL and apache. I'm trying to use hopto  (xxx.hopto.com) but on the www.hop.to page I can only set a www.hop.to/xxx? Any help appreciated :)
[13:10] <mang0> Oops
[13:10] <FloodBot1> mang0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <mang0> meant for offtopic
[13:14] <dD0T> Is there a way to get notifications to be interactive again in 11.10 with unity? I really don't buy the rationale given on the notifyosd page for non-interactive notifications. For me it's a bad joke I cannot react to chat notifications presented to me....sooo: Any ways to make them interactive again? Thanks.
[13:15] <alexeyy> Plz help me. I install drivers from nvidia.com. But statx doesnt work. Error:no device detected. VGA - NVidia 520mx.
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to make some certificates
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> I have this config file https://crypty.ch/p/B4HQadfE#4694ffbadc8aef70a45accc553347fbd   named as spoofcert.cnf     and this config  https://crypty.ch/p/qNYE3VH8#73275ae0ab22441b88b93c6a9c60ad93
[13:17] <ShapeShifter499> named as spoofca.cnf
[13:17] <MJ23> Hello, is there any difference between gnome shell and gnome desktop enviroment? (what is a shell) ?
[13:17] <ShapeShifter499> and I'm using these commands https://crypty.ch/p/aTmpFAx2#87d06bb4c5aca1514f6b7eab92907dda
[13:17] <orated> !pm | monica
[13:17] <ikonia> MJ23: assive difference
[13:17] <ShapeShifter499> but it errors out on the last command
[13:18] <ShapeShifter499> this is the error http://pastie.org/2892556
[13:18] <ShapeShifter499> what am I doing wrong
[13:18] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[13:18] <MJ23> ikonia oh, to massive to explain? :/
[13:18] <ikonia> MJ23: it depends on your wording - the old "gnome desktop" was gnome 2 which was a desktop enviornment
[13:19] <ikonia> MJ23: there is still a gnome desktop now, but it's changed to be utilised by gnome shell, which is the users "interface" to the desktop
[13:19] <ikonia> MJ23: there are two definition of the desktop, the old gnome2 concept, and the libraries that sit behind gnome shell now
[13:20] <ShapeShifter499> can anyone help?
[13:21] <MJ23> ikonia hmm, okey. I want to change my desktop enviroment from gnome 3 (with unity) to gnome 2. Does that change the shell too?
[13:21] <ikonia> MJ23: gnome 2 is %100 dead
[13:22] <smiledgreg> MJ23: install Xubuntu and don't waste your time
[13:22] <smiledgreg> MJ23: it's a lot way less problematic and faster than ubuntu with bugnity
[13:23] <ikonia> smiledgreg: it's called "unity" use the proper name
[13:24] <MJ23> ikonia hmm how to do you mean? does it not run properly now? i think the system settings is crap in gnome 3 and i want to get rid of the unity
[13:24] <MJ23> how do you mean*
[13:24] <ikonia> MJ23: the sooner you accept a new desktop gnome3/unity/xubuntu/lxde the easier it will be
[13:24] <ikonia> MJ23: gnome 2 is not maintained/supported any more, so more an more applicatiosn are moving away from it
[13:24] <MJ23> smiledgreg oh... i have reinstalled linux 4 times now ubuntu - linux x2 and now ubuntu again and then xubuntu :'(
[13:24] <ikonia> MJ23: you'll find more problems using it, than if you try to use a new one and get used to it
[13:26] <MJ23> ikonia does gnome 3 have the same options for changing the graphics/looks? how do i find all options in gnome 3 that gnome 2 had?
[13:26] <ikonia> MJ23: it's a different method of working, have a look on gnome.org to see some of the new features, guides, etc
[13:26] <smiledgreg> MJ23: ikonia is right, it's a matter of preferences. you just need to get use with it. all I can say is that I find unity annoying (and developers will surely fix excellent number bugs in 12.04) and I use xubuntu and lubuntu on my installations.
[13:29] <MJ23> ikonia and smiledgreg okey, but if I then is going to install gnome 3 instead, will it change my shell aswell? (the shell sounds a bit complicated for me at the moment)
[13:29] <ikonia> MJ23: gnome 3 is gnome shell
[13:29] <ikonia> (from a siple point of view)
[13:29] <ikonia> simple
[13:30] <Musashi> anyone here knowing a bit about postfixadmin and sympa? I could use a little help :-D
[13:30] <ikonia> unity is a shell built on gnome 3 libraries, but for wording arguments, gnome 3 = gnome shell
[13:30] <ikonia> Musashi: just ask the question
[13:31] <MJ23> ikonia: okey thank you. I'll go to gnome's website and read a little bit and then try install the gnome 3 :)
[13:31] <ikonia> MJ23: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[13:31] <MJ23> 11.10
[13:32] <ikonia> MJ23: ok - so gnome3 is already installed (unity is using it) so you just need gnome shell
[13:32] <Musashi> I need to integrate sympa with postfixadmin - so far postfix is configured via postfixadmin, but sympa doesn't tell PFA about its existence and aliases... Lucid server
[13:32] <ikonia> Musashi: how are you intergrating sympa
[13:33] <MJ23> ikonia oh okey, do I have to uninstall unity before i install the gnome 3 shell?
[13:33] <Atamisk> okay guys, here we go: when i boot into ubuntu, all i get is a blank, black screen. when the HDD stops grinding, i can switch to tty 1, blindly login, and blindly type startx. any idea why the terminals aren't displaying on-screen?
[13:33] <ikonia> !gnomeshell | MJ23
[13:33] <ikonia> MJ23: there is a factoid on it, hang on
[13:33] <Atamisk> also, when i type startx, the screen comes up as per normal.
[13:33] <ikonia> !gnome-shell | MJ23
[13:34] <Guest46900> hi everybody!
[13:34] <MJ23> ikonia sure
[13:34] <Jonii> Hey, how come ubuntu very frequently confuses which layout to use for ctrl-<key> keys, which to use for typing, which layout to show when I press show current layout and what layout name to show
[13:35] <ikonia> MJ23: I can't find it, you don't have to remove it, but you may want to consider it to keep it simple
[13:35] <Jonii> As far as I can tell, those have nothing to do with each other
[13:35] <Musashi> ikonia: used sympa packages from maverick, just installed them; /etc/aliases has entries for sympa, sympa-request and sympa-owner and /etc/aliases is defined in main.cf for aliases and virtual_alias_maps
[13:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:36] <gidas> wtf :)
[13:36] <ikonia> Musashi: ok - but postfixadmin won't know anything about that, so how have you tried to intergrate it into postfixadmin ?
[13:36] <coz_> Jonii,   did you check under  Keyboard layout in system settings and the "Options"  button??
[13:37] <Jonii> coz_: what should I check there?
[13:37] <MJ23> ikonia how does that "between space/time" when i uninstall unity till I have installed gnome 3 shell work? feels like i wont have any icons or bars when i have uninstalled the unity
[13:37] <ikonia> Musashi: ok - but postfixadmin won't know anything about that, so how have you tried to intergrate it into postfixadmin ?
[13:37] <ikonia> MJ23: install gnome-shell, remove unity
[13:37] <MJ23> okey :)
[13:37] <Musashi> ikonia: i haven't because i can't find information about how to
[13:37] <MJ23> thank you
[13:38] <coz_> Jonii,   well.. when the keyboard layout dialog opend make sure the  "English" (US) is listed in the left column, if that's what you are using
[13:38] <MrS1lentcz> i have a big problem... i cant repair grub2... never tutorial has success...
[13:38] <coz_> Jonii,   then click the "Options"  button to see if you need to set specifics
[13:38] <ikonia> Musashi: ok, so that's the issue join #postfixadmin and ask for help, there maybe a module, but I don't think there is, you will probably need to do some custom code changes
[13:38] <coz_> Jonii,   you can also click the "Reset to Defaults" button
[13:38] <Jonii> coz_: like I said, the displayed layout, the layout used for typing, the layout used for ctrl-key type of shortcuts and layout displayed when I use that tooltip and select "show current layout" are totally unrelated
[13:38] <Musashi> ikonia: #postfixadmin consists of idle laggers and bots :-(
[13:39] <ikonia> Musashi: no, it doesn't it's just not active at this moment, I've used it many times
[13:39] <coz_> Jonii,   mm  ok,, then I must be confused
[13:39] <ubuntu> I installed xubuntu 10.11 and it locked the system 4 or 5 times before i hosed the install
[13:39] <Musashi> ikonia: what's the difference? ;-) been there already
[13:39] <Jonii> coz_: Those four are totally unrelated. They might, occasionally, refer to the same layout, but most often one or two of them are different than others
[13:39] <ubuntu> 11.10sorry
[13:39] <ikonia> ubuntu: sounds like you have a hardware problem
[13:39] <ikonia> Musashi: then wait for a response - it's quite a good channel
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:41] <m3wt> hi guys, I've just installed xubuntu 11.10 x64 with the alternative CD. I selected encrypted LVM as I have with all my standard ubuntu installs. When I boot this machine, I am immediately dumped into  an initramfs busybox shell with no options. Any ideas?
[13:42] <ikonia> m3wt: there is normally an error before that happens, look for that
[13:42] <ubuntu> ok  on an 80 gb drive I created two primary partitions to install xfce and lxde is that partition scheme agood idea
[13:42] <ikonia> m3wt: I suspect it can't read your disks, either due ot the encption, the hardware you use, or a missconfiguration
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' (again), BluesKaj !
[13:43] <ikonia> ubuntu: it's fine
[13:43] <m3wt> ikonia: can't catch it, it goes from the Xubuntu splash to that shell.
[13:43] <ubuntu> thanks
[13:43] <ikonia> ubuntu: just be aware that dual booting will be a prolbme to maintain
[13:43] <sahat_> yum search theme
[13:43] <ikonia> m3wt: boot with nosplash
[13:43] <ikonia> sahat_: yum is not used in ubuntu
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hi again, Sidewinder1
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:43] <m3wt> ikonia: /facepalm, thanks.
[13:43] <m3wt> will try.
[13:44] <Atamisk> what does nosplash do?
[13:44] <dr_willis> Hmm
[13:44] <ikonia> Atamisk: removes the splash screen
[13:45] <dr_willis> which turns off plmouth basically
[13:45] <Atamisk> so, would this allow one to boot directly into tty1 without seeing that Ubuntu-plus-four-dots screen?
[13:45] <dr_willis> Atamisk:  yes.  the 'text' option disables the gdm/kdmxdm/whateverdm login from starting.
[13:46] <dr_willis> Atamisk:  'noquiet nosplash nofb text' :) is what ive used in the past.. some optiuons may not be needed in all cases.
[13:46] <Jonii> Anyway, does anyone know why this happens?
[13:46] <Atamisk> ah, i just disabled it in lightdm.conf, but that would work too.
[13:46] <Jonii> I mean, this happens to me both with netbook and desktop, ubuntu 10.4 and 11.10
[13:46] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: are you here? i have a news... :)
[13:47] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  hmm?
[13:49] <mang0> I'm trying to install ddclient, but I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744228/
[13:50] <JustinBieba> hey
[13:50] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: i mounted linux os to /mnt and boot partition to /mnt/boot, and on step "upgrade-grub" i get this: "Generating grub.cfg ... grep: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory grep: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory Cannot find list of partitions!  (Try mounting /sys.) done"
[13:50] <JustinBieba> what is the command to install firefox?
[13:50] <ikonia> m3wt: you have more than 1 package manager open
[13:51] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  you are using a seperate /boot and / partitions? you would need to mounth both i belive
[13:51] <JustinBieba> ikonia = noob
[13:51] <ikonia> JustinBieba: 1.) no, I'm not 2.) don't call people that
[13:51] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  and then theres some xpecial dirs. like /dev/ and /sys that need to get mounted to the right place in /mnt/ in your case
[13:51] <JustinBieba> ikonia es numero uno n00b
[13:51] <JustinBieba> huehuehuehue
[13:52] <ikonia> mang0: you have more than one package manager open
[13:52] <ikonia> mang0: close the others and try again - or simpley reboot and try again, it will work
[13:52] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  you could try the 'boot repair' tool that the fixgrub wiki mentions - ive used it in the past and its worked good.
[13:52] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:53] <mang0> ikonia: Afaik I've not got more than one open. Will log out/in work to fix it?
[13:53] <mang0> !grub | MrS1lentcz
[13:53] <ikonia> mang0: reboot would be cleaner, something is holding a lock on that file, you can manually remove it, but a reboot is cleaner
[13:53] <mang0> ikonia: Okay, thanks :) Brb then!
[13:54] <dr_willis> hopefully boot repair will get included in the next release.  somting like it is badly needed
[13:54] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: i did it by wiki tutorial
[13:55] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  looked like they missed a step
[13:56] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: step 1: mount os and boot; step 2: sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; step3: sudo chroot /mnt; step4: update-grub
[13:57] <dr_willis> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint /dev/sda --recheck
[13:57] <dr_willis> can do it with out all the bind mounts..
[13:58] <fnoyanisi> hi guys, is there anybody here who is unhappy with unity?
[13:58] <ikonia> fnoyanisi: why ?
[13:58] <dr_willis> my grub reinstall notes MrS1lentcz  ->  http://pastebin.com/NviTvW3i
[13:58] <dr_willis> Unity is a work in progress.. and its constantly improveing in each release. :)
[13:59] <fnoyanisi> ikonia : actually, I was a gnome guy for a long time
[13:59] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  ok, thx
[13:59] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  you can install kubuntu-desktop  to try a different desktop environment, although it is somewhat bloated
[13:59] <dr_willis> gnome-shell is a work in progress and ....... :)
[13:59] <fnoyanisi> ikonia : but, gnome 3 and unity (whiac are seperate but like brothers), are both a big disappointment for me
[13:59] <ikonia> fnoyanisi: again - what does it matter ? do you have a support question ?
[13:59] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  I understand the shock of Unity from classic gnome,  you are not alone in that
[13:59] <ikonia> fnoyanisi: ok - we can't help you with that
[14:00] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  you can of course try different desktop environments
[14:00] <fnoyanisi> ikonia : just want to ask :)
[14:00] <ikonia> fnoyanisi: why ? what good will it do ?
[14:00] <mang0> ikonia: It worked, thankyou.
[14:00] <fnoyanisi> coz_ : kde used to be a "bad" windows copy with its 1st release but now gnome lagging behind it unfortunately
[14:01] <ikonia> mang0: great.
[14:01]  * dr_willis recalls over the yers how every new desktop people hated.. then loved.. then hated to leave.. then loved the next....
[14:01] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  this is true... however, the only option many are left with now is a different desktop environment,, I am installing kubuntu-desktop as we speak
[14:02] <dr_willis> kde has more fetures then i can comprehend in some ways. :)
[14:02] <MJ23> ... after looking at gnome 3 it feels like its the same thing as unity with the mobile / tablet with touch screen interface...
[14:02] <fnoyanisi> coz_ : it seems i will also prefer kde after this unity disaster :S... but, it depends on needs and requireements and of course with which desktop you fell more comfortable
[14:02] <overdub> i'm running KDE on ubuntu 11.10, and it's flawless and great
[14:02] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint /dev/sda --recheck" do you mean /mountedOS/mountedBootPartition ?
[14:03] <kortsi> hello - i'm having problems after upgrading from maverick to natty - natty does not seem to recognize my HP Smart Array P600 - i'm running natty with the maverick 2.6.35 kernel now instead - any ideas?
[14:03] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: for example: "/media/boot" ?
[14:03]  * rhin0 moved to xubuntu 11.10 so I don't have to use unity
[14:03] <dr_willis> MrS1lentcz:  if /boot/ is seperate. it would beed to be mounted into /media/installedsystemmountpoint/boot   i imagine
[14:03] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  well..there is  xfce..lxde..kde..and gnome3 ... you could test them all to see which is acceptable for your work habits
[14:03] <ikonia> kortsi: don't mix product versions eg: natty with maverick components
[14:03] <bullgard4> '~$ yeahconsole urxvt' produces ~56 urxvt program windows. After a few seconds they disappear. The terminal writes: "3 XError caught" and returns to its normal prompt. How to get rid of this bug?
[14:03] <fnoyanisi> i think, gnome people now targeting tablets, so they try to make something that can suit both with tablets and PCs
[14:03] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis: yeah, thx
[14:04] <kortsi> ikonia: i know - but i could not boot this machine with the natty kernel - luckily the old kernel was still there so i could boot
[14:04] <kortsi> ikonia: the smart array has my root filesystem so i need it
[14:04] <overdub> fnoyanisi: the obvious answer would be a tablet mode, with all the original functionality retained
[14:04] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  you can also go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion about this,, this channel is support only  and other topics, including likes and dislikes are generally  talked about in the offtopic channel :)
[14:04] <ikonia> kortsi: is it a raid array ?
[14:05] <kortsi> ikonia: yes
[14:05] <oCean> fnoyanisi: this channel is not for general discussion. Do you have a support question?
[14:05] <oy1r> q: does the height affect the radiation angle on a vertical dipole ?
[14:05] <dr_willis> oy1r:  yes.
[14:05] <ikonia> kortsi: is it fake raid, or hardware ?
[14:05] <ikonia> (P series is fake/host raid isn't it ?)
[14:05] <kortsi> ikonia: hardware raid - 2.6.35 recognizes it but 2.6.38 does not...
[14:06] <fnoyanisi> ohh sorry guys than... fell like a spoofer :)
[14:06] <oy1r> dr_willis, thanks, (tho i was in the wrong chan)
[14:06] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  no problem :)
[14:06] <ikonia> kortsi: I thought the P series was host/fakeraid, if you use a livecd does it see the disk controller ?
[14:06] <dr_willis> oy1r:  this is from my rather old ham/shortwave radio knowledge.
[14:06] <ikonia> kortsi: its unusual for a kernel to drop support for a device like that
[14:07] <coz_> fnoyanisi,  feel free to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <kortsi> ikonia: no it does not - also oneiric amd64 server install cd does not recognize it
[14:07] <bekks> kortsi: Currently, are you trying to install Ubuntu onto that device?
[14:07] <kortsi> ikonia: yes it seems very odd to me as well
[14:07] <oy1r> dr_willis, i didnt expect an answer in here hi, but i had the wrong chan up, was supose to ask in ##hamradio
[14:07] <ikonia> kortsi: from what you've said, it looks like support has been dropped
[14:07] <hoaithuonguyen> a
[14:07] <ikonia> kortsi: I'm just having a little research
[14:07] <dr_willis> oy1r:  i could be wrong. :) im going from what i read 10+ yrs ago.
[14:07] <kortsi> bekks: i had maverick installed and i upgraded to natty - and natty kernel did not see my disks
[14:08] <oy1r> dr_willis, hehe i doubt the pattern changed in the last 10yrs.
[14:08] <kortsi> bekks: running natty with 2.6.35 now because the root filesystem is on that disk
[14:08] <bekks> kortsi: Just a little test: modprobe cciss
[14:08] <coz_> kortsi,  is it possible to do a clean install rather than an upgrade?
[14:08] <ikonia> I don't think a clean install will fix
[14:09] <bekks> kortsi: If cannot load the module, it isnt part of the Ubuntu kernel.
[14:09] <kortsi> it loads the module, but does not detect any disks
[14:10] <bekks> kortsi: check with lsmod wether the module is loaded please.
[14:10] <kortsi> right now on 2.5.35 it is - but i need to reboot with the install cd to check that
[14:11] <kortsi> lsmod says cciss                 100469  7
[14:11] <bekks> kortsi: The install cd wont help at all.
[14:11] <kortsi> bekks: the install cd is the only way to boot a 2.6.38 kernel at all
[14:11] <zaxonspox> hello, how to  remove text "GRUB 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3" on top of grub menu?
[14:13] <bekks> kortsi: But the kernel on the install cd doesnt necessarily contains that module, AND the kernel on the install cd doesnt necessarily match the exact kernel version you have installed.
[14:13] <ikonia> of course it does
[14:13] <kortsi> bekks: it does contain cciss
[14:13] <ikonia> the /lib/modules is relative to the running kernel
[14:14] <bekks> ikonia: Ack. But the kernel on the install isnt necessarily the same as the one installed, since he could have downloaded updates while installing.
[14:15] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  "root@ubuntu:/# update-grub Generating grub.cfg ... Cannot find list of partitions!  (Try mounting /sys.) done"
[14:15] <bekks> All he can do with the install cd is to check wether the module exists.
[14:15] <ikonia> if the install CD can't see the devices, and the running kernel can't see the devices, it doens't matter, the base version will not run
[14:15] <ikonia> I'm looking to see what has happened to the ciss modules, I know they have changed as the device path is no longer /dev/cciss it's /dev/sd$ as a normal disk
[14:15] <ikonia> it changed in 2.6.32 or .33
[14:15] <kortsi> ikonia: they have a new driver - the hpsa
[14:16] <ikonia> kortsi: correct, hence my research
[14:16] <kortsi> ikonia: but my P600 is still supported by the old cciss driver
[14:16] <sskniranjan> niranjan
[14:16] <ikonia> kortsi: the cciss module also changed
[14:16] <lolcat> How can I get to the end of a file in nano?
[14:16] <kortsi> ikonia: i see a line like this in the 2.5.38 sources: drivers/block/cciss.c:{0x3225103C, "Smart Array P600", &SA5_access}
[14:17] <ikonia> kortsi: that doesn't mean it's going to work
[14:17] <kortsi> ikonia: that matches the id in lspci -vv -nn: Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 3 Gb/s SAS RAID [103c:3225]
[14:17] <kortsi> ikonia: so i guess it should be detected...
[14:17] <ikonia> kortsi: if you do "sudo fdisk -l" do you see the disks
[14:17] <ikonia> (as dumb devices)
[14:18] <kortsi> ikonia: with 2.6.35 yes, with 2.6.38 no (I check that already before)
[14:18] <ikonia> kortsi: ok - you have a choice a.) look for a solution b.) attempt a re-install as the new cciss version could be a problem with the meta data on the disk being incompatible
[14:20] <amt0101> How can you install LIBDC_2.11 on ubuntu 10.04?
[14:20] <kortsi> ikonia: but still the same problem with oneiric install cd - no disks detected at all
[14:20] <kortsi> ikonia: so nowhere to install a new version
[14:20] <bekks> kortsi: Did you try an alternate cd for installing?
[14:20] <amt0101> Sorry GLIBC_2.11 :)
[14:20] <blackshirt> kortsi: are you using raid disk ?
[14:20] <ikonia> kortsi: ok so you need to accept there is a problem with the current module, and start researching it
[14:21] <ikonia> amt0101: you don't
[14:21] <kortsi> bekks: i have tried only the server install cd (amd64)
[14:21] <ikonia> kortsi: the module changed in 2.6.32/33
[14:21] <bullgard4> '~$ yeahconsole urxvt' produces ~56 urxvt program windows. After a few seconds they disappear. The terminal writes: "3 XError caught" and returns to its normal prompt. How to get rid of this bug?
[14:22] <kortsi> ikonia: funny because i'm running 2.6.35 now and disks are being recognized
[14:22] <amt0101> ikonia,  Excuse me?
[14:22] <kortsi> blackshirt: yes an hp smart array p600 raid controller
[14:22] <Amdpc> Hi..How to open a terminal from a terminal..? I mean which command to use ?
[14:22] <ikonia> amt0101: you don't do that
[14:22] <amt0101> ikonia,  I am trying to start a game and it tells me that I need glibc_2.11
[14:23] <ikonia> kortsi: that may be true, but the base change was made 2.6.32/33
[14:23] <brondy> ctrl alt t for a term
[14:23] <ikonia> amt0101: you can't change glibc versions
[14:23] <Stanley00> Amdpc: gnome-terminal, I think
[14:23] <fnoyanisi> Amdpc : xterm
[14:23] <sskniranjan> i had inserted dvd drive but the computer doesn't show me the drive. what to do
[14:23] <ikonia> kortsi: there may be more changes post that, but the initial main change was 2.6.32/33
[14:23] <amt0101> ikonia,  How can I start the game then?
[14:23] <kortsi> ikonia: this is really odd... also bug 684304 describes something like this, but it is supposed to be fixed already
[14:24] <Amdpc> Stanley0 fnoyanisi : Thanks.. :) Both work..!
[14:24] <MrS1lentcz> dr_willis:  alive? :P
[14:24] <ikonia> kortsi: just reading
[14:24] <ikonia> amt0101: if you can't meet the dependencies, you can't use it
[14:24] <amt0101> ikonia,  Ohh this is sad, thanks anyway. :)
[14:25] <Amdpc> One more question...How to run multiple commands at a same time ? Is it correct to use " ; " between two commands ?
[14:27] <HelloWorld321> How do you make synergy client auto-start in ocelot?
[14:28] <ikonia> kortsi: intersting read
[14:28] <zaxonspox> HelloWorld321, just add synergy command to autostart programs
[14:28] <sskniranjan> i had inserted dvd drive but the computer doesn't show me the drive. what to do
[14:28] <HelloWorld321> zaxonspox: tx
[14:29] <kortsi> ikonia: yes it seems that somebody got their machine booting :)
[14:29] <zaxonspox> HelloWorld321, Sys>>Prefs>>Startup progs....
[14:29] <ikonia> kortsi: not using the cciss though
[14:30] <kortsi> ikonia: thats right - and my board is not supported by the hpsa...
[14:30] <zaxonspox> HelloWorld321, for server use cmd: /usr/bin/synergys --config /etc/synergy.conf, and for client was i think /usr/bin/synergys -f   (search in google)
[14:30] <kortsi> ikonia: i think i need to search for more bug reports and file a new one if there's no such bug yet
[14:31] <rhin0> HelloWorld321: if you want to just use a "synergy" from the command line use "x2x" ... you may encounter problems with synergy or x2x on the client (machine you are driving) if you don't go to settings / keyboard and turn 'repeat key on press' (as the machine you type through will repeat once and the client machine will also repeat a key press if the key is held down)
[14:32] <rhin0> otherwise you will be getting spurious characters on the client machine HelloWorld321
[14:32] <zizoo> Amdpc: Yes, that should work fine.
[14:33] <HelloWorld321> x2x is another software program similar to synergy?
[14:33] <zaxonspox> HelloWorld321, for client /usr/bin/syneryc server-host-name or IP
[14:33] <rhin0> it is synergy -- just the same -- synergy or "quicksynergy" I set up -- just has cut buffer -- I get the impression "x2x" is more straightforward
[14:33] <Amdpc> Thanks zizoo... :)
[14:34] <theborger> hey will 10.04 32 bit see 8gb of memory out of the box?
[14:34] <rhin0> I use it ... dumped "synergy" -- x2x excellent - v easy to set up - works through ssh
[14:35] <HelloWorld321> x2x is a command line?
[14:35] <rhin0> but then again I've only used "synergy" to controla  windows machine
[14:35] <rhin0> yes
[14:35] <HelloWorld321> is it an option switch?
[14:36] <rhin0> command is of the nature "ssh -X user@machineyouwanttodrive  -C "x2x -east -to :0"   (-east is direction (east being right hand screen))
[14:36] <rhin0> HelloWorld321:
[14:36] <rhin0> that command works
[14:37] <rhin0> install x2x on both client and server machine "sudo apt-get install x2x" HelloWorld321
[14:37] <theborger> anyone
[14:37] <HelloWorld321> rhin0: the server is a Windows machine.  Is x2x available on windows?
[14:37] <bastidrazor> theborger: no it will not. use the -pae kernel if you want 32bit to see more than 3.2GB
[14:37] <rhin0> no idea
[14:37] <HelloWorld321> I will investigate that.
[14:38] <rhin0> no idea if even synergy may be "x2x" -- certainly does exactliy the same thing (but synergy gives you cut and paste)
[14:38] <luca__> hello everybody :)
[14:38] <HelloWorld321> I have problems with Synergy on windows, actually.   http://synergy-foss.org/tracker/issues/2802
[14:39] <theborger> bastidrazor: have a link on how to do this?
[14:39] <bastidrazor> !pae | theborger
[14:41] <xruud> I reinstalled ubuntu to get around some serious problems. But I can't get one thing ack they way it was...
[14:41] <docmur> has anyone had freezing issues with Ubuntu 11.10,  My computer seems to freeze randomily and I have no idea why, there is no one activity I ever do that triggers it.  Gentoo never froze and ever 11.04 never froze
[14:42] <xruud> A second partition I had was mentioned in nautilus in the lefthand menu in treeview underneath the filesystem
[14:42] <xruud> How did I do that?
[14:42] <dr_willis> xruud:  you got it mounted via fstab?
[14:42] <dr_willis> what sort of FS is it?
[14:43] <mtrd`> right click -> send to ?
[14:43] <xruud> dr_willis: it is ext3 and I did do SOMETHING in fstab
[14:43] <xruud> dr_willis: ow wait, it was ext4 before, but I chose to switch
[14:44] <theadmin> xruud: So, did you format the drive from ext4 to ext3?
[14:44] <dr_willis> xruud:  added a proper fstab entry.  you dont normally just switch from ext3 to 4 and back
[14:44] <raptor67682> hello
[14:44] <theadmin> raptor67682: Greetings, human.
[14:44] <xruud> I reformatted the entire drive. No switching at all
[14:44] <raptor67682> I would like to know how to run E-UAE if you have only one joystick ?
[14:44] <theadmin> xruud: Okay, so how does your fstab entry look?
[14:45] <xruud> theadmin: checking....
[14:45] <cyril_> xruud: yes I had these issues on a computer: random freeze on a laptop
[14:45] <theadmin> xruud: The syntax is this: DEVICE MOUNTPOINT FSTYPE OPTIONS DUMP PASS, if I recall correctly
[14:45] <cyril_> xruud: sorry wrong recipient
[14:46] <cyril_> docmur: yes I had these issues on a computer: random freeze on a laptop
[14:46] <dr_willis> !mount
[14:46] <cyril_> docmur: and it was a standard install, no fancy things installed. I had to reinstall the 10.04 version
[14:46] <theadmin> xruud: An example line would look like this: /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults,acl 0 0
[14:48] <xruud> theadmin, dr_willis: currently the relevant line in fstab is: /dev/sda3 /var/www ext3 defaults 0 0
[14:49] <theadmin> xruud: That looks just fine.
[14:49] <xruud> Which is exactly what I want. But I don't want to navigate to /var/www al the time
[14:49] <theadmin> xruud: Uhm, so what you'd like is some... shortcut to /var/www?
[14:49] <bastidrazor> xruud: add a symlink in your home to /var/www
[14:49] <docmur> okay
[14:49] <docmur> I'll drop down to 11.04 then
[14:49] <docmur> I'm glad someone else has had these issues
[14:50] <xruud> theadmin: yes, I had it in nautilus in the left column (treeview) under filesystem
[14:50] <|Long|> good morning, i just plugin new hard drive, is there away to enable this new drive without rebooting? how do i do it from ssh terminal?
[14:50] <bastidrazor> xruud: in nautlius go to /var/ then drag the www folder to the left tree. it should add it there
[14:50] <bekks> |Long|: Impossible.
[14:50] <ikonia> |Long|: most devices will not be hotpluggable unless you have enterprise level kit
[14:51] <theadmin> xruud: Well, you could do a symlink like this: ln -s /var/www $HOME/www and then just access ~/www
[14:51] <|Long|> alright thanks
[14:51] <bekks> |Long|: Shutdown your PC, connect the new drive, startup your PC again.
[14:51] <xruud> trying all of your sugestions now...
[14:52] <xukun> how can I see the boot process while booting ubuntu? I removed the quiet splash line from the /etc/default/grub but I still don't see any text
[14:52] <xruud> ps, my external usb drive IS showing at the spot I am referring to
[14:52] <xruud> bastidrazor: that does not work in tree view
[14:53] <theadmin> xruud: You can also add a line like this in fstab: /var/www /home/yourname/www none defaults,bind 0 0
[14:53] <bullgard4> docmur: Before you install 11.04 you better check your automatic computer logs for relevant error messages.
[14:53] <docmur> haha I was just thinking that
[14:53] <docmur> but if it was a random freeze then where do I look
[14:53] <docmur> I know /var/log
[14:53] <docmur> wouldn't I need some idea of what happened
[14:54] <bullgard4> '~$ yeahconsole urxvt' produces ~56 urxvt program windows. After a few seconds they disappear. The terminal writes: "3 XError caught" and returns to its normal prompt. How to get rid of this bug?
[14:55] <bastidrazor> bullgard4:  what is "yeahconsole" ?
[14:55] <xruud> theadmin: your suggestions place it as a folder underneath the Home folder. Not as it's own item at the same level as Home, File system and my usb drive
[14:55] <theadmin> xruud: What you want can be done by just adding /var/www to nautilus bookmarks.
[14:56] <barcef> How do you enable the SLEEP INHIBIT applet in unity?
[14:56] <starn> does anyone use Teampspeak 3 here?? i need help with the applist.. or a place to get a applist. their forums are of no help.
[14:56] <xukun> how can I see the boot progress in ubuntu? no splash screen
[14:57] <soreau> xukun: Remove quiet and splash from the kernel parameters
[14:57] <Pyrostic> having problems installing on my new computer. I have a P67 ASUS MB with UEFI... I can't get past [SDD] SCSI Drive (something or another)... any Ideas?
[14:57] <xruud> theadmin: that put it with the bookmarks, but not where I was saying
[14:58] <theadmin> xruud: Well, it's the best that you can do, anyway.
[14:58] <xukun> soreau, I did that but it won't work
[14:58] <bullgard4> bastidrazor: A program.
[14:58] <theadmin> xruud: Use another filemanager if you're not satisfied with that.
[14:58] <luca_bi> http://filibertobiolca.altervista.org/pagina-94413.html
[14:58] <xukun> soreau, I still see no text
[14:58] <luca_bi> dear friends what do you think about my website??
[14:58] <theadmin> luca_bi: It's spam.
[14:58] <theadmin> luca_bi: We do not allow advertising stuff here.
[14:58] <|Long|> what is the cmd to reboot ubuntu 11.00 from ssh terminal?
[14:59] <luca_bi> no it's not spam
[14:59] <soreau> xukun: You probably did it wrong ;) try booting with text as a kernel param
[14:59] <theadmin> |Long|: You'd be surprised, but "reboot".
[14:59] <luca_bi> it is abbout nanotechnology
[14:59] <bekks> lolcat: "sudo reboot"
[14:59] <bastidrazor> |Long|: sudo reboot now
[14:59] <|Long|> lol, thnaks
[14:59] <lolcat> bekks: "sudo reboot"
[14:59] <theadmin> bastidrazor: You don't need "now"
[14:59] <xruud> theadmin: can I mount the drive at the same spot a removable drive would be mounted? That way it will appear in that place. I'll symlink the /var/www
[15:00] <theadmin> xruud: Well, removable drives are mounted under /media, but that won't help you... It only shows the mounts which are done through the gnome's automatic mount mechanism there.
[15:00] <starn> hey in byobu to the left of how long the machine has been running there is 1! what does that mean?
[15:01] <xruud> theadmin: yeah indeed, already tried it :P
[15:01] <xukun> soreau, in /etc/default/grub wright?
[15:01] <bastidrazor> soreau: text will boot to a prompt
[15:01] <soreau> xukun: You could just edit the params directly for onetime use, at boot
[15:01] <docmur> The logs have no useful information in them
[15:02] <soreau> bastidrazor: Well he wants to see it
[15:02] <theadmin> xruud: Juse use pcmanfm
[15:02] <xukun> soreau, I will try that again thanks
[15:02] <master> nabend
[15:03] <theadmin> master: English please.
[15:04] <docmur> Hmmm Ubuntu had the wrong video driver installed
[15:04] <docmur> I'll start with that
[15:05] <xruud> theadmin: I've removed the fstab entry, rebooted. Now the partition shows up where I want it. Except it is not mounted automatically!
[15:05] <sasori> how to enable mail php function on linux? ..i installed postfix, i chose "internet site" on the first question of the installation process..then i typed "me@localhost" for the 2nd question..restarted my server and ..when i tried a simple if statement that has mail($to,$subject,$message,"FROM: $from"), it says, mail was sent, but the recipient didn't receive any email at all
[15:06] <barcef> How do you enable the SLEEP INHIBIT applet in unity?
[15:08] <bastidrazor> barcef: if you find out how to keep the system from going idle let me know too.. i don't want it to ever sleep.
[15:08] <barcef> bastidrazor, You shoul dbe able to do that in the power options.
[15:09] <barcef> bastidrazor, I just want it when I
[15:09] <barcef> bastidrazor, I just want it when I'm looking at movies
[15:09] <barcef> bastidrazor, and disable your screensaver
[15:10] <oy1r> can i change the Application menu name ?
[15:10] <oy1r> application, places and system*
[15:10] <xruud> Does anyone know? A partition I have is not yet in the fstab, and shows up in nautilus. When I click it it gets mounted. This work much like an external usb drive except I cannot unplug the partition. But when I add the drive to fstab the drive disappears from the "Devices" list. I want to keep it there except automount and no option to unmount from nautilus
[15:10] <barcef> bastidrazor, I have the power inhibit applet in gnome, just not in unity
[15:12] <jrib> xruud: just add the folder where you mount it as a bookmark in nautilus
[15:12] <zykotick9> xruud, using fstab seems to disable nautilus' control over partitions (hope you find an answer)
[15:13] <dr_willis> normally one does not need to mount ext2/3/4 on the fly.
[15:13] <xruud> jrib: tried that. But I'll try again
[15:13] <dr_willis> unless its all owned by a single user.
[15:14] <tstaerk> hi, how can I get the window close button to the right?
[15:14] <zykotick9> !controls | tstaerk
[15:15] <clearkruti> #list
[15:15] <xruud> dr_willis: I know, but I want it mounted in the way that is easiest to use for me. So it needs to be in the left column in Nautilus when all options are still unclicked. Bookmarks do that I think, but I had a different method beofre I can't find
[15:16] <dr_willis> xruud:  nautiuls shows mounted hard drives i recall.. but  im not sure how else you would do it - either automated.. or bookmarks..
[15:17] <tstaerk> zykotick9: wow great worked thanks
[15:17] <dr_willis> I just use bookmarks..thats what they are made for. :)
[15:18] <dr_willis> or mount it somewhere in your users home
[15:20] <xruud> dr_willis: I'm going with bookmarks for now. I know I had something else before, but since that happened by accident I'll try and figure that out later.
[15:20] <mtrx> is there any method to fix corupted directory list in apt for old-releases.ubuntu.com? ports.ubuntu.com had other dir structure, im using armv6 version
[15:20] <luddict> exit
[15:23] <xruud> dr_willis: Last time I had an autorun file in the partition when setting it up
[15:23] <xruud> dr_willis: since Nautilus uses icons that are indicated by autorun, might that affect the way it works? (trying now)
[15:24] <rance> Im working on porting a bash script written for centos to ubuntu.  One of my script functions is to check to see if a kernel update will be applied and set a RESTART flag so the script with restart the system.  With yum all you needed was "yum check-update" to get a list of packages to be installed at the next update.  How do you do this with apt?
[15:25] <xangua> rance: sudo apt-get update
[15:25] <xangua> apt-get help rance
[15:26] <dr_willis> xruud:  cant say ive noticed it using autorun stuff. :) i tend to use a headless server.
[15:27] <HelloWorld321> what do you call that bar on the left of the screen with the applications on it?  the launch bar or something? I'm only asking cuz I can't figure out what to google to figure out how to move it to the right  :P
[15:27] <dr_willis> silly windows box's are not seeing my windows server..
[15:27] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321:  if you mean the left side panel.. you dont move it to the right.
[15:27] <xruud> dr_willis: that might seriously affect the way icons are displayed indeed ;)
[15:27] <dr_willis> theres some hacks out to move it to the bottom.
[15:27] <dr_willis> webupd8 and omgubuntu site had a mention of the unity panel to the bottom hack
[15:28] <HelloWorld321> I see.  Tx, dr_willis
[15:28] <manco> dr_willis, sorry to interrupt.. but r u talking about unity ? (jost got in)
[15:28] <dr_willis> Unity :) everybodys fave topic.
[15:28] <manco> jajaj, yeah.. im kind of liking it..
[15:28] <manco> i mean.. it works.. and is nice..
[15:29] <xruud> dr_willis: If I develop a small program that shows images, and I run that from a headless machine, it will not affect the ability to actually display the images and just run the program, right?
[15:29] <manco> although dr_willis, i did had an issue.. i solved the wrong way... i have a desktop with 2 monitors.. the left one in portrait and the right (main) in horizontal way..
[15:30] <xruud> dr_willis: because I'm afraid my adventure with linux is somewhat a must for a project I'm working on.
[15:30] <manco> the thing is that the unity bar looks totaly wrong on the far left monitor on a portrait mode.. thats why i wanted to switch it to the right side..
[15:30] <dr_willis> xruud:  shouldent. if you are using x forwarding via ssh, or somting like that
[15:30] <manco> i had to re arange my monitors setup to have the unity bar where "its suposed to be".. lol
[15:31] <zykotick9> manco, HelloWorld321 you both should want what Mark wants ;)
[15:31] <manco> Mark zykotick9 ?
[15:32] <zykotick9> manco, ignore me - just taking a stab at Mr. Shuttleworth and Ubuntu's new direction
[15:32] <xruud> Is it just me, or does Unity look a whole lot alike the mac os? There is no reason it should nor shouldn't. But the resemblence is remarkable. This comes from someone who uses Windows daily ;)
[15:32] <manco> ahh lol, i did get that.. jaja
[15:32] <HelloWorld321> xruud: I think so, but I'm also a windows user.  As a windows user, I like that the current desktop uses familiar keyboard shortcuts
[15:33] <manco> HelloWorld321, you can modify the keyboard shortcuts
[15:33] <manco> you need to go to keyboard layouts on the system settings panel HelloWorld321
[15:34] <tensorpudding> i poohed the people who said gnome 2.30 on ubuntu looked like mac, but frankly unity is very mac-like, assuming you ignore the launcher and dash being what they are
[15:34] <xruud> I'd still like to have keyboard shortcuts like windows+e for nautilus. I saw a howto on that, but that was written for 10.10 and did not work on 11.10
[15:34] <manco> sorry, HelloWorld321, not the keyboard layout, but the "keyboard" in the system settings
[15:34] <incorrect> what is the name of the app that controls the display? if you have multiple screens etc?
[15:35] <manco> incorrect, compiz you mean ?
[15:35] <incorrect> manco, compiz does the effects
[15:35] <xruud> manco: how to use windowskey+another key? I did not get that to work from a howto online
[15:35] <manco> ahh, ok, you need to go to system settings and there is a division called "displays"
[15:35] <incorrect> i am looking to have my display settings remembered on xfce
[15:35] <zykotick9> manco, gnome-display-properties
[15:36] <manco> xruud, r u running 11.10 ?
[15:36] <zykotick9> incorrect, gnome-display-properties (my nick tab was incorrect ;)
[15:36] <manco> thats it zykotick9, incorrect thats the name of the aplication
[15:36] <hollenjf> running 11.01. i installed gnome3 in leu of unity. when the gdm loads the prompt, the "ubuntu" option is always pre-selected in the drop down box. how can I make that permanently select GNOME?
[15:36] <incorrect> zykotick9, you know the package name?
[15:36] <vibhav> hollenjf: Wait a sec
[15:37] <incorrect> the display management in xfce is broken, so i am going to try the gnome one, i just need to know what to install
[15:37] <JWillians_> Someone can tell me how is the support of 64 bit architecture in Ubuntu 11.10? I heard somewhere that this release had some improvements in the instalation of 32bits packages, is that correct?
[15:37] <zykotick9> incorrect, looks like gnome-control-center
[15:38] <jutnux> incorrect: What do you mean display management is broken?
[15:38] <incorrect> julian_c, it doesn't remember settings in xubuntu
[15:38] <zykotick9> incorrect, i checked using "dpkg -S gnome-display-properties"
[15:38] <manco> xruud, if you are running unity.. you shoud have working windows_key (called super)+s or super+w .. to switch desktops or windows..
[15:38] <xruud> manco: yes
[15:38] <xruud> manco: what about super+e -> nautilus. I keep doing that all the time
[15:39] <hollenjf> vibhav: ok
[15:39] <dmt> hello
[15:39] <manco> xruud, sorry, im not familiar with that shortcut.. super+e shoud do what action ?
[15:39] <xruud> manco: I'm already using unity shortcuts in windows too... :P
[15:40] <xruud> manco: like I typed. super + e -> Nautilus
[15:40] <xruud> manco: in windows it is windows+e -> Explorer. Hence the e
[15:40] <manco> xruud: ah, you want to open Nautilus with the super+e ?
[15:40] <xruud> manco: exactly
[15:40] <manco> xruud, ahh lol, ok
[15:41] <dmt> I'm thinking about getting a new laptop today.
[15:41] <xruud> manco: it is something I do automatically. More specifically; it always opens a new window
[15:41] <incorrect> dmt, you want a laptop that works with ubuntu with no problems?
[15:41] <xruud> I added super+e and set it to nautilus, but it did not work...
[15:42] <dmt> lenovo y570 i7 2670qm
[15:42] <manco> xruud, ok, r u on the ubuntu box right now ?
[15:42] <Rei`> Hi, can anyone recommend a C-60 based netbook for running Ubuntu?
[15:42] <manco> xruud, you need to go to system settings --> keyboard    , (not keyboard layouts)
[15:42] <dmt> It's got a nvidia gt555m which sounds good,
[15:43] <xruud> manco: then shortcuts I assume
[15:43] <manco> xruud, in there you got a label "shortcuts"
[15:43] <incorrect> dmt, why don't you google ubuntu <model numbe>
[15:43] <Caiox> hey, anyone know of a irc channel of some hacking stuff?
[15:43] <manco> xruud, yes, lol. at the bottom you have a "custom shortcuts"
[15:43] <xruud> correct
[15:44] <manco> xruud, hit the "+" to add a new one. Name it as you like it, and at the "command" line just enter "nautilus" (without the cuotes)
[15:44] <jutnux> http://t.co/4WSWfZS5
[15:44] <jutnux> This looks so sweet.
[15:45] <manco> xruud, it wil apear as a new line in the shortcuts.. on the far right, you will see it says "disabled".. just double click that, and hit super+e
[15:45] <xruud> manco: does that also take command line otpions? I need it to open w new window if it won't by default :P
[15:45] <xruud> manco:it does not say super+e, but mod4+e
[15:45] <Xtz> my unity bar stucked 11.10, any one know how to fix it ? :\
[15:45] <manco> xruud, sorry i didnt understand that last thing
[15:46] <theadmin> Xtz: What?
[15:46] <xruud> manco:nevermind, it does work
[15:46] <manco> xruud, yes, its ok (mine says the same), just click on the desktop or switch to another desktop and try super+e.. should work
[15:46] <manco> xruud, ok ! great ! is this what you needed ?
[15:47] <cari_veri_ud> Hey there, how do I get vlc to work in firefox ?(youtube/flash videos et.c)
[15:47] <xruud> manco: thanks, it does work. This is what I wanted. But that leaves me puzzled....
[15:47] <xruud> manco: this is exactly what I tried before...
[15:47] <xangua> Xtz: unity --reset ¿
[15:47] <xruud> manco: I was following a tutorial
[15:47] <xangua> cari_veri_ud: if you installed the vlc plugin for mozilla, try 'flash video replacer' addon
[15:47] <xruud> manco: ut well, it does work now!
[15:48] <manco> xruud, thats because you did it angry.. lol. Na.. sometimes happens.. probably mised something.. (at least thats what ussualy happens to me.. lol)
[15:48] <manco> xruud, ok great ! you are my first fully resolved problem for another user ! :D
[15:48] <manco> xruud, thank you for contacting ubuntu comunity service, have a nice day !   lol  !
[15:49] <xruud> manco: haha, can I return the favor? For optimal results you should ask PHP, HTML(5), CSS or JS related questions
[15:51] <manco> ahh, great ! i dont have any questions right now.. (as i dont know php or js, etc).. but when i start learing them.. i probably will... hehe
[15:51] <cristian> hola
[15:51] <cristian> hola
[15:51] <cari_veri_ud> xangua: I installed it a moment ago, but sitll the videos seem to require adobe flash player first. there msut be a way around it.
[15:51] <Rei`> Hi, can anyone recommend an AMD Fusion C-60 based netbook for running Ubuntu? Preferably from your own experience. Looking for decent battery life, nice keyboard.
[15:52] <manco> xruud, you can find me at #ubuntu-uy  #hackspace-uy or #montevideolibre most of the times... just to keep in touch :P  or on the ubuntu forums as manco1911
[15:52] <VEndix> Hi, can someone tell me how to make my folders on Ubuntu 11.10 transperent?
[15:52] <HelloWorld321> How can I login to Ubuntu using Synergy?  I've got synergyc as a startup application once I login, but prior to login synergyc hasn't started
[15:52] <xangua> cari_veri_ud: flash video replacer addon mentions what sites does it supports
[15:52] <manco> VEndix, what do you mean for transparent ?
[15:52] <xangua> like 8 or 9 i believe
[15:52] <manco> hola cristian
[15:52] <cristian> hello
[15:52] <VEndix> to see the background
[15:52] <VEndix> or wallpaper, whatever
[15:53] <xruud> manco: you don't happen to have experience with arm? I'm setting up a beagleboard, but haven't succeeded yet
[15:53] <xruud> manco: spanish?
[15:53] <manco> VEndix, ah.. ok, sorry, i can help you with that one.. i do know on terminal window.. but not on all (nautilus, etc).. maybe compiz ?
[15:53] <VEndix> mmm
[15:53] <manco> xruud, yes thats my mother languaje.. :D
[15:53] <Xtz> nvm, just removed opera browser from unity bar and it did fixed
[15:53] <VEndix> i will wait for one linux geek
[15:54] <VEndix> he knows everything
[15:54] <VEndix> anyway thanks
[15:55] <n1mda> so I'm on ubuntu 11.10, compiz is taking 50-80% CPU all the time. How the bullcrap do I remove it? When apt-get remove it uninstalls some gnome-components or whatever ubuntu uses now and there is no fallback with startup menu or anything
[15:55] <zykotick9> n1mda, Unity requires compiz...
[15:55] <n1mda> so I wanna remove unity?
[15:56] <n1mda> and install what?
[15:57] <zykotick9> n1mda, i don't know - do you?  there are other WMs/DEs out there - gnome/kde/xfce/lxde so you have options.  See "/msg ubottu notunity" for some gnome related details
[15:57] <BluesKaj> n1mda, desktop effects is qiute enough compiz for most effects ..no need for the extra emerald etc compiz IMO
[15:57] <manco> xruud, i dont have that much experience with arm other than my lovely nokia n900 :D.. but you can search on many hackspace channels.. maybe on #hackspace-uy (from my country) you can find someone.. look for "fcr" user..
[15:57] <xangua> !nounity | n1mda
[15:57] <somsip> !nounity | n1mda
[15:57] <oy1r> can i change the Application, Places and System menu names ?
[15:57] <xruud> manco: thanks, I'll try that
[15:58] <zykotick9> oy1r, probably not without a lot of work/programming - but maybe?  Good luck. (i personally think it'll be a lot more work then it's worth)
[15:59] <manco> xruud, ok u r welcome, you can search in hackerspaces.org for the nearest comunity.. or one that suits you best.. :D good luck with that !
[15:59] <oy1r> zykotick9, ok thanks.
[16:01] <Guest98047> I am tring to automaticaly move completed files in transmission to a different directory  and i keeep getting a 404 error , is possible in gtk transmission or only if I had a transmissed web UI running
[16:02] <zykotick9> Guest98047, (as an alternative) i know Deluge has that as an option
[16:04] <Guest98047> zykotick9: so to make my life a little easier scrap transmission for delug?
[16:04] <HelloWorld321> If I'm trying to login to Ubuntu Ocelot running Unity, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto; is "LightDM" the section I should be looking at?
[16:04] <theadmin> HelloWorld321: Yeah
[16:04] <zykotick9> Guest98047, it's an option...  but ultimately up to you (i much prefer deluge over transmission - but it's personal preference)
[16:04] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321:  11.10 uses lightdm by default yes.
[16:05] <tamale_> Hello everyone.  I seem to have gotten myself into a sticky situation.  I followed a guide to enable internet connection sharing on my laptop (using my phone as a hotspot and trying to share the connection to my eth0 device), but it didn't work and now I can't disable it.
[16:05] <theadmin> Guest98047: I know qbittorrent can do that, not sure about others
[16:05] <Xtz> j8fyrh7sdf
[16:05] <wolfgang> hi
[16:05] <HelloWorld321> theadmin, dr_willis: tx
[16:05] <Xtz> oops
[16:05] <mtrx> i thera any method to force using old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/? apt is using old-releases.ubuntu.com/ports-ubuntu/ and it gets 404
[16:06] <tamale_> When I go into Network Settings, I can't click on 'Configure...' for my Wired connection.. it's grayed out.
[16:06] <xangua> mtrx: why exactly do you want to use a no longer supported ubuntu¿
[16:06] <zykotick9> Guest98047, fyi deluge has a gtk and web UI - for the web UI you need to verify you get deluged gets installed (on debian it isn't automatically, perhaps the ubuntu package is better?)
[16:07] <Rei`> Hi, can anyone recommend an AMD Fusion C-60 based netbook for running Ubuntu? Preferably from your own experience. Looking for decent battery life, nice keyboard.
[16:07] <mtrx> i had arm6 cpu in my phone
[16:07] <theadmin> zykotick9: Transmission and qbittorrent also have a web ui. It's nothing special.
[16:07] <mtrx> armv6*
[16:07] <p5151> hi everyone, my isp gave me one ipv4 adress and i can use ipv6 adresses using 6to4, now, when i go online i get one ipv6 adress on eth1, next to my ipv4 adress on eth0. Now i can both use ipv6 and ipv4, and it iwll go ipv4 on default if there is ipv4 availble. However, i would like to select the ipv6 adress as default, anyone know how i can do that ?
[16:07] <Rei`> (Has anyone tried Ubuntu on the Toshiba NB550D-T10 or U10?
[16:08] <zykotick9> theadmin, the OP said they where using a webui - thus i wanted to mention deluge had that feature as well
[16:08] <theadmin> zykotick9: Oic.
[16:08] <matlock> so, where's the gui to change the resize area of the window?
[16:08] <|Long|> is there away to can fix boot menu? and boot directly to GUI? right now it sit on boot kernal screen?
[16:08] <mtrx> now i cant install anythong via apt
[16:09] <matlock> so, where's the gui to change the size of the resize area of the window?
[16:09] <matlock> and if there isn't one, why not?
[16:09] <matlock> because it's been an issue since gutsy
[16:09] <Peppo64> ciao
[16:09] <zykotick9> |Long|, check your GRUB_TIMEOUT= in /etc/default/grub
[16:09] <Peppo64> !list
[16:10] <zykotick9> !it | Peppo64
[16:10] <matlock> ...
[16:10] <xangua> mtrx: because you are using a eol release and not supported here* ubuntu
[16:10] <xangua> !eol
[16:10] <tamale_> Hello everyone.  I seem to have gotten myself into a sticky situation.  I followed a guide to enable internet connection sharing on my laptop (using my phone as a hotspot and trying to share the connection to my eth0 device), but it didn't work and now I can't disable it.   When I go to Network Settings, I can't click on "Configure..." under "Wired".. it's grayed out.  Help!
[16:11] <matlock> so, where's the gui to change the size of the resize area of the window?
[16:11] <theadmin> tamale_: A link to the guide would help.
[16:11] <kkal> for some reason the mouse wheel and clicks dont work on half of the screen
[16:11] <nathansuchy_> how do i setup my own irc server
[16:11] <zykotick9> matlock, do you mean the corners/sides of windows?  i'm not clear.
[16:12] <matlock> yes
[16:12] <kkal> anyone else seeing this?
[16:12] <matlock> how do i change the size of the area that allows me to resize the windows
[16:12] <matlock> because it's been an issue since gutsy
[16:12] <zykotick9> matlock, i'm interested if someone gives you an answer for that.  Good luck.
[16:12] <tamale_> theadmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[16:12] <matlock> and canonical has yet to address it
[16:12] <wolfgang> hi kkal
[16:12] <|Long|> zykotick9, thanks
[16:12] <matlock> and there's even been bugs listed to it
[16:12] <matlock> but the fix is to edit some xml file
[16:12] <p5151> my isp gave me ipv6 adresses using 6to4, anyone know if its possible to add more then one ipv6 adress to my machine ?
[16:13] <kkal> anyone having mouse scroll issues with half the screen?
[16:13] <CarlFK> matlock: im interested too, but please stop reposting so often
[16:13] <kkal> hello wolfgang
[16:13] <matlock> it would be nice if canonical would actually make shit work like they say and actually add a gui that detects the current theme and applies the settings requested
[16:13] <tamale_> matlock: do you know about alt-middle click resizing?  You can use the entire window for that.
[16:13] <zykotick9> |Long|, and don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" at apply any changes ;)
[16:13] <matlock> oboy
[16:13] <matlock> i asked twice
[16:13] <matlock> flame me for wanting to know
[16:13] <tamale_> matlock: do you know about alt-middle click resizing?  You can use the entire window for that.
[16:13] <matlock> that's not what i'm asking
[16:14] <tamale_> no, but it gets what you're asking for
[16:14] <matlock> if i wanted to know about alt-middle click i would ask about alt-middle click
[16:14] <Guest98047> zykotick9: what transmission is on ubuntu bu default ? when i try to remove "sudo aptitude remove transmission", i get no packages will be removed
[16:14] <matlock> no it doesn't
[16:14] <dr_willis> Guest98047:  do an apt-cache search transmission
[16:14] <dr_willis> thats most likely was not the right package name
[16:14] <tamale_> I'm confused.  Your complaint is about not being able to change the size of the area used for resizing easily.. but there's a built-in way to use the entire window for resizing
[16:15] <matlock> tamale_, so you're telling me that if i hold alt, then middle click it will permanently resize the area of the UI that allows me to resize windows?
[16:15] <zykotick9> Guest98047, transmission-gtk perhaps.  "dpkg -l | grep transmission" will show what packages are installed with the name transmission
[16:15] <matlock> because that's what i want
[16:15] <matlock> i do not want another shortcut.
[16:15] <tamale_> I'm questioning your entire question
[16:15] <tamale_> there's no reason for an easier to use resize area.. when there's already one that's as big as it can possible be
[16:15] <matlock> yep
[16:16] <matlock> there's no reason to want to resize windows with a two button mouse
[16:16] <freko> bonsoir à tous
[16:16]  * dr_willis just uses a differnt theme.. but im not paying attention to the  debate going on.
[16:16] <oCean> !fr | freko
[16:16] <freko> sorry i tips ubuntu-fr but xchat open #ubuntu in the same time
[16:16] <matlock> dr_willis, which theme do you use that has this larger resize area?
[16:17] <matlock> tamale_, not everyone has a three button mouse dude
[16:17] <tamale_> you can emulate the same behavior with a two-button mouse.. just hold alt and right click anywhere in the window and choose 'resize'
[16:17] <dr_willis> matlock:  you are meaning the windows 'border' and corner grab box? when you use that vague term 'resize area' ?
[16:17] <Guest98047> dr_willis: apt-cache shows transmission but i get "no package will be upgraded installed or removed "
[16:17] <matlock> so just lay off, if you're not going to help, go assist someone else
[16:17] <kkal> I think Im going to switch to fedora now.
[16:17] <matlock> dr_willis, yes, the 'border/reside area'
[16:18] <matlock> tamale_, and alt right click brings up a context menu
[16:18] <kkal> it just doesnt work anymore for me
[16:18] <matlock> genius
[16:18] <tamale_> I'm only arguing with you because I actually agree - it'd be nice to have an easy-to-use gui to change settings like what you're asking for.. but with so many viable alternatives, I think there are far worse issues tackling than this.
[16:18] <dr_willis> theres differnt themes that had wider or thinner window borders. but curently im not on a ubuntu desktop. (ssh server only) and im not even sure what themes exit now for the gnome-3 stuff.
[16:18] <matlock> tamale_, then go tackle them
[16:18] <kkal> this is ridiculous, I have to move each window to the left just to click on buttons
[16:18] <kkal> because unity is so fucked up
[16:18] <oCean> kkal: control your language here, please
[16:18] <matlock> dr_willis, well thank you for actually attempting to help
[16:19] <xangua> !language | kkal
[16:19] <matlock> dr_willis, oh, also i'm using 10.10
[16:19] <dr_willis> I normally use the old 'pastik' theme i recall.
[16:19] <kkal> oCean: fine
[16:19] <matlock> i tossed 11.xx to the trash like it is
[16:19] <dr_willis> or was it plastick
[16:19] <tamale_> matlock: did you try the second alternative I suggested?
[16:19] <dr_willis> less ranting.. please..
[16:19] <matlock> you mean the one that i didn't ask for tamale_ ?
[16:19] <tamale_> no..
[16:19] <tamale_> one that works with two button mice
[16:19] <matlock> the one that doesn't include a gui to resize the area myself?
[16:19] <tamale_> no reason to be an ass
[16:19]  * dr_willis goes back to trouble shooting samba.
[16:20] <kkal> lovely ubuntu isnt as lovely any more
[16:20] <kkal> !language | tamale_
[16:20] <matlock> tamale_, i have repetedly responded to you with the same line of thought. i do not want 'workarounds' i want THE FIX
[16:20] <matlock> how hard is it to understand?
[16:20] <tamale_> Because I'm trying to be helpful
[16:20] <matlock> no wonder everyone thinks this channel is a bunch of douchebags
[16:20] <matlock> it is
[16:20] <tamale_> I can't give you the gui you want
[16:20] <oCean> matlock: good luck finding help with that attitude
[16:21] <kkal> okay I suppose ubuntu had a good run for 4 years
[16:21] <cari_veri_ud> xangua: the replacer plug does not take the vlc player and on some sites it just dont work.
[16:21] <tamale_> lol yea, I didn't attempt to help at all.
[16:21] <alexi> Hey guys, I experience a video driver issue... My old videocard was nvidia geforce 8600 gt, my new one is radeon HD 6850. I am using the 10.10 version of Ubuntu, and I can't start x after I installed new drivers, but vith the drivers value "vesa" everything seems to be ok, except everything is ugly...
[16:21] <kkal> thank you everyone. I know you tried your best but its just the few who I believe ruined it. shuttleworth for instance
[16:21] <tamale_> alexi: I have a video card from the same series, and I'm doing fine with the default (open source) drivers
[16:21] <xangua> cari_veri_ud: do you have ONLY vlc plugin for mozilla¿ disabled any other like mplayer or ttotem plugin¿
[16:22] <tamale_> kkal: Have you tried gnome3?
[16:22] <zykotick9> kkal, it's his to ruin
[16:22] <oCean> kkal: this channel is not for your rants, stop it already
[16:22] <xangua> cari_veri_ud: it does work on youtube, the only site you mentioned earlier
[16:22] <olgianlu> ciao a tutti!
[16:22] <zykotick9> !it | olgianlu
[16:23] <tamale_> Hello everyone.  I seem to have gotten myself into a sticky situation.  I followed a guide to enable internet connection sharing on my laptop (using my phone as a hotspot and trying to share the connection to my eth0 device), but it didn't work and now I can't disable it.   When I go to Network Settings, I can't click on "Configure..." under "Wired".. it's grayed out.  Help!
[16:23] <tamale_> the guide is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[16:23] <kamilnadeem> hi
[16:23] <kamilnadeem> thank you everyone who help people out
[16:23] <cari_veri_ud> xangua: so what do I do? of course I like to play flash or videos types from the web, but cant get this vlc to work in the browser.
[16:23] <alexi> tamale_: Actually I have the MSI r6850, which is based on the HD 6850, could it be the problem?
[16:24] <konam> is nautilus "elementary" the default on ubuntu now?
[16:24] <tamale_> alexi: I think the problem might be that you attempted to install fglrx but didn't do an ati-config -- initial properly
[16:24] <CarlFK> tamale_: no clue really, but some long shots: are both connections still active?
[16:24] <kkal> zykotick9: you really think so? what about being a community driven platform?
[16:24] <xangua> cari_veri_ud: i don't know, i just told you
[16:24] <zykotick9> tamale_, i didn't see it written in that guide, but do you get output from "grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces"
[16:25] <oCean> kkal: this is not the channel for general discussion.
[16:25] <tamale_> CarlFK: If I plug my ethernet in, it starts flapping back and forth from working to not working
[16:25] <zykotick9> kkal, ubuntu is NOT community driven at all!
[16:25] <kkal> tamale_: I'll try gnome 3
[16:25] <tamale_> zykotick9: No, I do not.
[16:25] <tamale_> kkal: I'm really liking it so far, tbh.. especially with ubuntu-tweak and gnome-tweak-tool
[16:25] <CarlFK> tamale_: but does that enable the 'Configure' option?
[16:25] <zykotick9> kkal, it's a company/business - with a dictator leading it (for life)
[16:25] <tamale_> kkal: Get both of those and you can get a really nice interface again
[16:26] <oCean> zykotick9: please don't continue the discussion here
[16:26] <kkal> tamale_: thanks!
[16:26] <cari_veri_ud> xangua: alright .
[16:26] <BluesKaj> CarlFK, you still need flash whether it runs on vlc plugin or not ...vlc uses flash as it's plugin ...there's no getting away from it
[16:26] <tamale_> CarlFK: No, even while the connection is flapping I can't click on configure.
[16:26] <alexi> tamale_: I've followed a guide on some Ubuntu help pages, I don't rememmber where... Thank you anyway, I'll see what I can do to fix this...)))
[16:26] <zykotick9> tamale_, that's good - if something is specified in interfaces it disables N-M
[16:26] <tamale_> alexi: Just remember - by default, ubuntu 11.10 will try to use the radeon open source drivers.. and they're quite good now/
[16:27] <CarlFK> BluesKaj: umm.. I think you dialed a wrong nick :)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> oops wrong perso CarlFK
[16:27] <BluesKaj> sorry :)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> cari_veri_ud,, you still need flash whether it runs on vlc plugin or not ...vlc uses flash as it's plugin ...there's no getting away from it
[16:27] <th^2> hello. is there a specified chan for playstation media center?
[16:28] <tamale_> zykotick9: I think I need to tell it to use my eth0 device as a standard DHCP connection BEFORE I plug the cable back in.. but I don't know how to do that without network manager.
[16:28] <CarlFK> tamale_: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections has a bunch of config files.. maybe root around in there? again, I'm just guessing
[16:28] <tamale_> zykotick9: What does enabling 'share this connection' actually do in that gui?
[16:28] <zykotick9> tamale_, if N-M is greyed out - i don't either
[16:29] <oCean> !alis | th^2
[16:29] <zykotick9> tamale_, shares your connection?  I was very surprised by that guide you linked - i though N-M could share connections quite easily (but haven't done so myself, so not 100%)
[16:30] <tamale_> tamale_: Yes, it can.. it's as easy as clicking one button.  The problem is disabling it :)
[16:30] <CarlFK> tamale_: "not sharing" isn't very nice :)
[16:30] <cari_veri_ud> BluesKaj: when I turn on the shockwave player plguin it will be used and not vlc which is installed too.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> tamale_, in the terminal , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:31] <tamale_> BluesKaj: OK
[16:31] <th^2> how do i "refresh" bash to use my new conf?
[16:31] <MeQuerSat> x
[16:31] <BluesKaj> cari_veri_ud, yeah flash is everywhere :)
[16:32] <bastidrazor> th^2: you changed bashrc? if so source ~/.bashrc
[16:32] <dfgas> how do i move a panel in gnome from one screen to another?
[16:32] <tamale_> BluesKaj: It's flapping again
[16:32] <bastidrazor> dfgas: click and drag it
[16:32] <bastidrazor> dfgas: alt left click and drag
[16:32] <BluesKaj> tamale_, flapping ?
[16:32] <th^2> bastidrazor, yes. amm what is "source"? i dont have a man page for that
[16:32] <dfgas> did that and nothing
[16:33] <bastidrazor> th^2: it re-reads the file. you can also do ./.bashrc
[16:33] <theadmin> th^2: It makes bash run the given file as a config file, pretty much
[16:33] <theadmin> th^2: Or, for short, executes it (with bash)
[16:33] <th^2> bastidrazor theadmin thanks
[16:33] <zykotick9> dfgas, you need compiz to move windows from one to the other - or use the top left icon, Move...
[16:33] <zykotick9> dfgas, sorry panel
[16:33] <bastidrazor> th^2: you're welcome
[16:34] <zykotick9> dfgas, ya, alt+drag
[16:34] <dfgas> ughhh
[16:34] <th^2> but that wasnt what i was after :( just added path variable but dont remember howto reresh bash to rad those..
[16:34] <cari_veri_ud> BluesKaj: The actual problem I have is, that those flash videos too slow.
[16:36] <dfgas> now i just need to remember how to turn compiz back on
[16:36] <Maskil> test 123
[16:36] <matlock> thanks guise
[16:37] <matlock> for not helping
[16:37] <zykotick9> dfgas, "compiz --replace"
[16:37] <matlock> i'mma go look for a real distro
[16:37] <matlock> that actually helps their userbase
[16:37] <jutnux> matlock: We aren't superheroes, we have other things to do.
[16:37] <jacksammich> dumbass
[16:37] <jacksammich> i can nick change
[16:37] <jutnux> jacksammich: Language ;)
[16:38] <Amdpc> Hi...Can I install UBuntu powerpc on my dell laptop ?
[16:38] <jutnux> Amdpc: Should be able to!
[16:39] <dr_willis> dell made a power pc laptop? or am i missreading things
[16:39] <freko> hi,
[16:39] <CarlFK> Amdpc: what model dell?  (or what cpu does it have?)
[16:39] <zykotick9> dr_willis, and is there even a support ubuntu powerpc release
[16:39] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  not much :)
[16:40] <dr_willis> and when i used powerpc linuxx -- it soft of sucked..  on my imacDV
[16:40] <Amdpc> CarlFK> dell vostro 1400 with Centrino processor..
[16:40] <dr_willis> monitor was off by 1/2 inch to the left.. had to reinstall os10 to adjust it...
[16:40] <matlock> thx i needed a new ip
[16:40] <matlock> fucknuts
[16:40] <CarlFK> Amdpc: then no.  Centrino is not ppc
[16:40] <zykotick9> Amdpc, Centrino != PowerPC
[16:41] <dr_willis> why would you even want to install powerpc on that Amdpc ?
[16:42] <Amdpc> dr_willis : Actually I want to install mol which I was told that it can be only installed on a powerpc.
[16:42] <Amdpc> !mol
[16:42] <freko> i've downloaded a firmware for my dvb usb stick (	dvb-usb-vp7045-01.fw ). I have placed it on /lib/firmware and it doesn't work.
[16:43] <soreau> ! work | freko
[16:43] <fasterisk> hi #ubuntu
[16:44] <fasterisk> i am looking for some support
[16:44] <zykotick9> !ask | fasterisk
[16:44] <dfgas> zykotick9, is there something i have to have enabled to have the options to move panels?
[16:44] <Tidals> hi cupcakes
[16:45] <DarsVaeda> hi I have a partition "unknown" that is not mounted and type linux swap - is that a correct swap partition?
[16:45] <zykotick9> dfgas, are you talking gnome2 or gnome3(fallback)?  In gnome2, not that i know of.  In gnome3, I have NO idea.
[16:45] <dfgas> gnome2
[16:45] <SilfenX> hello - I m running a wftp server on ubuntu over a PPTP VPN connection that blocks all ports below 1024, thus I have moved all default ports above this blocked range in wtpd settings and also made  adjustments accordingly in the router fw port forwarding section but my specific ports remain closed.. Do I have to allow external connections to wftpd somewhere  in ubuntu too?
[16:45] <zykotick9> dfgas, just ALT+drag on the panel, but be sure you're actually clicking the panel itself, not something IN the panel
[16:46] <dfgas> zykotick9, its a brand new panel with nothing on it
[16:46] <freko> the Ubuntu assistant for numeric TV doesn't recognize my dvb receiver
[16:46] <agent_smythe> so why is it that every release of ubuntu is more broken than the previous?
[16:46] <agent_smythe> that's my support question
[16:46] <zykotick9> dfgas, then hold down ALT, click and hold on the panel, drag it to where you want - release
[16:46] <theadmin> agent_smythe: Because it's Ubuntu. But that's not a support question. If you don't like it, switch away, like I did.
[16:46] <Tidals> agent_smythe› that is because you're a spider-man villain
[16:48] <asdf-> besides network manager, can anyone recommend a gui vpn client for pptp?
[16:48] <theadmin> freko: Sorry, "numeric TV"? Digital, you mean?
[16:48] <theadmin> asdf-: Hm, kvpnc
[16:48] <asdf-> theadmin, thanks
[16:48] <freko> yes digital tv
[16:49] <dfgas> zykotick9, had to disable expand on panel
[16:49] <dfgas> then i could move it
[16:50] <zykotick9> dfgas, that's strange - mind has "expand" checked and I can move it?
[16:50] <zykotick9> s/mind/mine/
[16:50] <dfgas> weird
[16:50] <dfgas> i know i had issues when i first installed too
[16:51] <BluesKaj> freko, what kind of connection from your computer to the tv ?
[16:52] <SilfenX> asdf-: a shortcut to setting up a VPN connection is to use webmin. It s got a module called PPTP VPN Client. Mind you tho that Ubuntu does not officially support webmin anymore. Works for me tho on 11.10
[16:52] <SilfenX> I m running a wftp server on ubuntu over a PPTP VPN connection that blocks all ports below 1024, thus I have moved all default ports above this blocked range in wtpd settings and also made  adjustments accordingly in the router fw port forwarding section but my specific ports remain closed.. Do I have to allow external connections to wftpd somewhere  in ubuntu too?
[16:54] <Tidals> webmin has exploits the size of Mexico
[16:54] <UbuntuAdmin> Hello people
[16:55] <Rei`> Has anyone tried Ubuntu on the Toshiba NB550D-T10 or U10? I'm really looking for an opinion on how well the C60 based models run Ubuntu Unity
[16:55] <freko> BluesKaj, the probleme is not the connection with the tv
[16:56] <zykotick9> !webmin | SilfenX
[16:57] <SilfenX> as I said, I m aware it s a gamble but for the few basic things I m using it for on my trivial homeserver it works splendid
[16:57] <brondy> for a multiboot can i use ubuntu boot and swap for a  kde opensuse install on the same drive?
[16:58] <toxboi> Hi guys, I've a Ubuntu 10.10 netbook installation. Recently there was an unclean shutdown (battery lapsed). I eventually got filesystem errors on restart. I managed to repair the fs using fsck running it from a live cd. Now I see kernel panic. Please help me to fix this.
[16:58] <CarlFK> brondy: yes, but your grub config may be tricky... like get stepped on when the update scripts get run
[16:58] <BluesKaj> freko, what is the problem then ?
[16:59] <zykotick9> brondy, is this a laptop?  swap can be an issue if you use hibernate
[16:59] <freko> I've installed dvb-apps and kafeine, downloaded the firmware for my dvb usb stick (	dvb-usb-vp7045-01.fw ). I have placed it on /lib/firmware but the Ubuntu assistant for digital TV doesn't recognize my dvb receiver
[16:59] <brondy> better to jsut use a seperate boot partition but again on the same drive?
[16:59] <brondy> desktop
[17:00] <freko> BluesKaj, it's my problem :)
[17:01] <zykotick9> brondy, LABELS for partitions (even possible for swap) might make sharing partitions easier ;)
[17:02] <brondy> not sure i understand - is labels a program?
[17:02] <sskniranjan> how to make my dvd open default to vlc instead of movie player
[17:02] <zykotick9> sskniranjan, nautilus -> Edit / Preferences -> Media tab
[17:03] <BluesKaj> freko, describe what you are trying to do and what software you using
[17:06] <zykotick9> freko, are you getting a firmware missing message on boot?  "dmesg | grep firmware" for the log
[17:07] <zykotick9> sskniranjan oh sorry you must be using gnome3? -- i have no idea (i'll stop giving that suggestion) - my bad
[17:07] <freko> no output result with this cmd zykotick9
[17:07] <Ezrille> Hi all, I've an issue with /sbin/unix_chpwd. I can't move or overwrite it, even as root. Here are the permissions on it: -rwxr-sr-x 1 root shadow. I can't apt-get update my system as libpam-modules tries to overwrite it. Any help?
[17:08] <zykotick9> freko, none at all?  so that would mean both nothing missing or nothing loaded?
[17:08] <freko> i have just make "sudo cp dvb-usb-vp7045-01.fw /lib/firmware"  and reboot
[17:09] <tarvid> Maje Startup Disk does not allow me to choose an iso from an external USB drive. Which package do I select to report the bug?
[17:09] <sskniranjan> how to change the default app to open the dvd from movie player to vlc?
[17:09] <sskniranjan> please help me
[17:11] <freko> zykotick9, how can i load this fw?
[17:11] <tarvid> sskniranjan, system-settings, removable media, select VC from the drop down menu next to DVD
[17:11] <FlyOnTheWall> sskniranjan, http://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_make_VLC_the_default_player
[17:12] <zykotick9> freko, i don't think the kernel is even looking for firmware (based on the non-output from dmesg)
[17:12] <Ryan_Reynolds> is anyone running ubuntu 11.xx with an nvidia driver that's actually activated?
[17:13] <Ryan_Reynolds> or should i just bump back to 10.xx
[17:14] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: I do.
[17:14] <Ryan_Reynolds> your driver is activated and in use?
[17:14] <Ryan_Reynolds> cause i can't seem to get any compiz effects, even though i 'have gl'
[17:15] <sskniranjan> tarvid thanx it really worked
[17:15] <Ryan_Reynolds> seems ever since they pushed unity, things have severly broke.  whats 12.xx look like?
[17:15] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: Yes, I have disabled desktop effects though. But I can play 3d-opengl games without problems.
[17:15] <brontosaurusrex> is it normal that ln command is limited to linking to same device/disk ?
[17:15] <Ryan_Reynolds> as can i but i can't compiz cube
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> brontosaurusrex  yes
[17:16] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: Well, that's a different issue.
[17:16] <Ryan_Reynolds> nope, it's directly related to my nvidia driver being activated but not in use
[17:16] <brontosaurusrex> MonkeyDust, and there is chance that symbolic version will work over a drive ?
[17:16] <Ryan_Reynolds> if i remove that driver and go with the 'experimental' one
[17:16] <Ryan_Reynolds> it works fine
[17:17] <Ryan_Reynolds> compiz is a little slow with that driver and there's artifacts when i switch users
[17:17] <brontosaurusrex> MonkeyDust, i just a temporary file rename
[17:17] <Ryan_Reynolds> but the cube works fine
[17:17] <brontosaurusrex> +need
[17:17] <Ryan_Reynolds> rotate cube works fine, etc
[17:17] <Ryan_Reynolds> just wondering if they're actually going to work on the issue, or just go with the current released fix of 'install 12.xx'
[17:18] <bttf> my keyring password is the same as my login password, but i still receive a "keyring was not unlocked" prompt everytime i start my machine? anyone know how i can get rid of this?
[17:18] <Ryan_Reynolds> cause that's not really a fix
[17:18] <Ryan_Reynolds> given the rate they're pushing bs into the current release, i'm not sure i want to see 12.xx
[17:18] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: I seem to can't find the bugnumber currently, can you point me to it?
[17:19] <zykotick9> bttf, do you have autologin enabled?
[17:19] <alexi> Ryan_Reynolds: I don't want to see Gnome 3 at all))
[17:19] <alexi> And all releases with it
[17:20] <Ryan_Reynolds> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/539997
[17:20] <Ryan_Reynolds> but that's someone using 10.04
[17:21] <Ryan_Reynolds> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/772207
[17:21] <HelloWorld321> If I'm just messing around with Samba, and I'm thinking "ooh, domain controller, cool!", should I back off before I crash my network?
[17:21] <Ryan_Reynolds> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/771788
[17:22] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: 772207 is about the legacy driver, 771788 is fixed.
[17:22] <Ryan_Reynolds> yea the 'fix' is to install 12.xx
[17:22] <Ryan_Reynolds> that's not a fix
[17:22] <Ryan_Reynolds> that's an 'upgrade to alpha'
[17:22] <Ryan_Reynolds> which i will not do
[17:23] <Ampelbein> Ryan_Reynolds: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/771788/comments/662 says it's fixed for oneiric. (also check comment 663)
[17:23] <th^2> should the "sh /home/th/pms-linux-1.20.412/PMS.sh" work as a path variable?
[17:24] <dr_willis> path vriable?
[17:24] <dr_willis> thats not a path
[17:24] <llutz> th^2: a script cannot be a PATH
[17:24] <th^2> llutz, aa okay...
[17:24] <th^2> so how do i make that script as a path?
[17:25] <llutz> you want to add /home/th/pms-linux-1.20.412/  to your path or what? th^2
[17:25] <dr_willis> you dont understand paths :)
[17:25] <th^2> llutz, yes
[17:25] <llutz> export PATH=PATH:/home/th/pms-linux-1.20.412/  th^2
[17:25] <llutz> export PATH=$PATH:/home/th/pms-linux-1.20.412/  th^2
[17:25] <dr_willis> link it to a existing dir in your PATH or append it to the path like llutz  shows
[17:26] <dr_willis> !path
[17:26] <th^2> hmm
[17:27] <bttf> zykotick9 where do i set autologin?
[17:27] <th^2> llutz, that one makes paths of the whole /pms folder and stuff in there=
[17:27] <th^2> ?
[17:27] <HelloWorld321> "To use this application, you must be running the X Window System and have root privileges."  Does Unity count as an X Window System?
[17:27] <dr_willis> th^2:  thats how paths work
[17:28] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321:  X is the lowest layer of the GUI. unity runs on top of X
[17:28] <zykotick9> bttf, in 11.10 i have no idea - in prior versions, System / Admin / Login Screen
[17:28] <llutz> th^2: maybe you should explain what you really want to achieve
[17:28] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: tx
[17:29] <bttf> zykotick9 i just checked that.. and it is already set to auto login
[17:29] <toxboi> bttf: it's in system settings
[17:29] <bttf> its not that my machine doesn't login to its account but it wont pass it to the keyring prompt
[17:29] <zykotick9> bttf, if you have autologin enabled, that's why you need to type your password to unlock keyring - 2 options: 1) disable autologin or 2) clear the key ring password
[17:30] <bttf> ohh
[17:30] <dr_willis> your login password and keyring password to not have to match
[17:30] <dr_willis> and you can set the keyring for an empty password
[17:31] <iceroot> which is a big security-issue
[17:31] <bttf> yeah, id rather set auto login off i guess
[17:31] <bttf> if thats the ONLY fix :\
[17:31] <th^2> llutz, trying to make a path to playstation media center?
[17:31] <dr_willis> my grandkids may get on my i pc
[17:31] <mang0> How can I check if a port is open via terminal?
[17:31] <HelloWorld321> It looks to me like samba can be configured to join a windows domain, but not act as a primary domain controller?
[17:31] <iceroot> mang0: nmap -p port hostname
[17:31] <mang0> iceroot: Cheers.
[17:32] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: samba can be a PDC too and with samba4 also as AD
[17:32] <Ampelbein> mang0: or 'netstat -tulpe' for your local system
[17:32] <toxboi> mang0: just telnet to the port
[17:32] <toxboi> simplest
[17:32] <llutz> th^2: define "path".  PATH is a variable holding directories the shell looks for executable files in. seem not to be what you call "path"
[17:32] <mang0> Ampelbein: Thanks.
[17:32] <mang0> toxboi: How? >.>
[17:32] <toxboi> mang0: telent ip port
[17:32] <mang0> toxboi: Oh. K, also thanks!
[17:32] <toxboi> telnet*
[17:32] <Guest82682> Hi there, I have a problem with epiphany browser. It is very slow: it grays out as it is going to crash but then it comes back. (It might be somewhat related to flash...) Any ideas?
[17:33] <toxboi> mang0: yw
[17:33] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: "samba 2:3.5.11~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1" doesn't look like that counts as samba4?
[17:33] <th^2> llutz, just that. i have my own folder where i put links to executables but that doesnt seem to work with pms :(
[17:34] <yeats> Guest82682: have you tried running it from the command line to see what messages might be shown?
[17:34] <Quell850> salve
[17:34] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: correct
[17:34] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: you cant use it as AS but as a PDC (win2k domain)
[17:34] <llutz> !work|th^2:
[17:34] <Guest82682> yeats: could you walk me through how to do that
[17:35] <th^2> llutz, link to pms gives error
[17:35] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: and samba4 is still experimental, so as an amateur, I'll back off from that.
[17:35] <yeats> Guest82682: close epiphany, then open a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-T) and type 'epiphany'
[17:35] <llutz> th^2: errors like?
[17:36] <yeats> Guest82682: when the slowdowns happen, check the terminal to see if there are error messages present
[17:36] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: its just not stable,so there might be issues with it
[17:36] <llutz> th^2: maybe you need to write short wrapper-scripts. some scipts only work when running in a special directory
[17:36] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: with my samba 2:3.5.11~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1, do I need ldb-tools, openbsd-inetd or smbldap-tools to do PDC?
[17:36] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: but running a basic AD domain is working good with it
[17:36] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: no you can do it without them
[17:37] <th^2> llutz, :D stupid me. didnt make the link +x
[17:37] <llutz> th^2: you have to make the script +x, not the link
[17:37] <th^2> llutz, script i meant
[17:37] <Guest82682> yeats: at this time I could not even start it. the error message is: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: time limit reached
[17:37] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: tx.  One more thing.  As mentioned previously, I'm an amateur, and I'm trying to configure it with the SAMBA Server Configuration gui tool.  Is there a better configuration tool?
[17:38] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: you are talking about SWAT?
[17:38] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: I'm talking about system-config-samba 1.2.63-0ubuntu4
[17:39] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: never used it, i am only using an editor vor editing /etc/samba/smb.conf  so i dont know if the gui tool is good
[17:39] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: it's in the Ubuntu Software Center if you type Samba, its in as just "Samba", but its full name is "Samba Server Configuration"
[17:40] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: k, tx.  I was afraid of that.
[17:40] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: swat - Samba Web Administration Tool
[17:40] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: maybe have a look at that, that should be the common gui for samba. its also in the repos
[17:41] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: if it is working with samba4 i dont know but it is working good with samba 3.x
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> iceroot: I don't like the notes on SWAT.  I think I'll get as far as I can with system-config-samba 1.2.63-0ubuntu4
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> "SWAT is no longer actively maintained, and its default configuration is not secure for use over an untrusted network.  SWAT will also rewrite smb.conf, rearranging the entries and deleting all comments as well as include= and copy= options, so is not suitable for use in conjunction with hand-edited smb.conf files or the default package-managed configuration."
[17:43] <norman__> Hey guys, I installed xubuntu via wubi and I really like it. Is there a way for me to delete windows xp via xubuntu so that I don't need to select it when I start up?
[17:44] <theadmin> norman__: If you used wubi, you have to keep Windows.
[17:44] <zykotick9> norman__, if you used Wubi then xubuntu is actually inside your windows install
[17:44] <doodlenox>  hey i have a 6 year old, p4 3ghz 2gb ram, crappy dell video card desktop - will this be ok for ubuntu]
[17:44] <cowslammer> norman, reinstall ubunto from scratch
[17:44] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: that is alwaysw the problem with gui-tools when also editing the config by hand/dpkg
[17:44] <konam> doodlenox more than ok
[17:44] <iceroot> HelloWorld321: because of that i am only editing directly the config. maybe have a look at #samba
[17:44] <norman__> The thing is I have no usb port or disk tray
[17:45] <konam> doodlenox what's the brand of the card?
[17:45] <alaing> does anyone know the windows/ms freenode channel?
[17:45] <norman__> I have a SD card slot but idk if that is able to be turned into a bootable disk.
[17:45] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[17:45] <iceroot> alaing: ##windows
[17:45] <konam> doodlenox if it's an intel you might even get the visual effects out of the box :)
[17:45] <iceroot> !alis | alaing
[17:45] <alaing> thanks iceroot
[17:45] <iceroot> norman__: depending on your bios
[17:45] <doodlenox> konam - http://i.imgur.com/DLl4E.png
[17:46] <prouter> hi I wonder can anyone help me, i need to permanently make and  amendment to the grub kernel line, i can temporarily edit it  on startup but i want to permenantly amend it
[17:46] <HelloWorld321> doodlenox: it will do, but it may color your experience with ubuntu in a very negative way.  I've always installed Ubuntu on old hardware, and it gets frustrating when somebody says "burn a cd", and you can't because the cd is broken, so they say "use a usb stick", and you can't because your usb reader is an older generation than your usb stick, and it just goes on.  My woman thinks that Ubuntu has crappy graphics ... but it's 
[17:46] <HelloWorld321> You can totally do it, just understand that Linux is just as powerful as the other operating systems when installed on an equally powerful computer
[17:47] <konam> doodlenox i used to have one of those on an old desktop and i had the visual effects :)
[17:47] <doodlenox> hellowrodl321 - i just have this desktop and barely use it, runs xp and i want to do something useful with it
[17:47] <HelloWorld321> doodlenox: makes sense
[17:47] <doodlenox> is xbmc live a better idea..
[17:47] <konam> of course i just like the basic ones, wobbly windows, magic lamp window minimization effects, etc..
[17:47] <dr_willis> doodlenox:  theres also the boxee live :)
[17:48] <doodlenox> i would like to use this desktop with my xbmc appletv2
[17:48] <doodlenox> boxxe live hmm whats that like
[17:48] <prouter> hi I wonder can anyone help me, i need to permanently make and  amendment to the grub kernel line, i can temporarily edit it  on startup but i want to permenantly amend it
[17:48] <zykotick9> prouter, /etc/default/grub if you use grub2
[17:48] <dr_willis> xbmc and boxee need some decent hardware if you dont want toehm to be sluggish
[17:48] <prouter> zykotick9: thanks
[17:48] <dr_willis> doodlenox:  i saw some other mini disrto that ame with boxee the other day also.  I forget its name.. its like geexbox
[17:48] <zykotick9> prouter, "sudo update-grub" after any changes
[17:49] <prouter> zykotick9: Thanks! :)
[17:49] <A|i3N> Any good Ubuntu command line crash courses out there?
[17:49] <gladosv21> anyone good with file recovery here? I recovered a file with photorec and now am quite sure I have the correct file, however, it's all gambled... how to 'repair' it to get readable again, even if it's just partly?
[17:49] <ahoneybun> A|i3N, as in to learn commands?
[17:50] <ahoneybun> gladosv21, file type? .odt, .docx?
[17:50] <gladosv21> file is xml
[17:50] <dr_willis> A|i3N:  theres tons of bash tutoriual sites.. no need to be ubuntu specific
[17:50] <A|i3N> Yea, basic to advanced usage of various commands. I Know I can use man, but I'd like something to study over, getting ready for an interview tuesday
[17:50] <synapse> if I copy /boot/config-2.6.32-35-generic to .config in my kernel src dir, does that ensure the same kernel (for the most part) will be made?
[17:51] <synapse> and do I need to actually use make menuconfig?
[17:51] <ahoneybun> A|i3N, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ very nice and simple
[17:52] <dr_willis> doodlenox:  check out this xbmc disrto also -> http://openelec.tv/news/item/207-openelec-1-released
[17:52] <A|i3N> Thanks :) I know enough to get the job but I'm trying to impress, maybe I'll get tier 2 lol
[17:52] <ahoneybun> A|i3N, not really CL when I look
[17:52] <ikonia> synapse: you shouldn't use other kernels configs on different kernel versions
[17:52] <dr_willis> A|i3N:  find a copy of Oreially's using bash book...
[17:52] <ahoneybun> A|i3N, are you trying to learn apt-get commands and such, or script writing?
[17:53] <gladosv21> anyone have a clue to repair the xml file?
[17:53] <bastidrazor> A|i3N: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html  might help a bit.
[17:53] <tarvid> startup-disk-creator 11.10-server-i386 created empty file system tried to rerun 2mb available , erase disk, disappears and switches to external backup drive, help!
[17:53] <dr_willis> gladosv21:  as far as i know an xml file is all ascii/text. so whats to repair.
[17:53] <gladosv21> dr_willis: well it's all gambled tekst, all strange marks, etc
[17:54] <A|i3N> No scripting yet. Just basic command line stuff like cat, find, ... tcpdump (learned quite a bit about that one, pretty cool lol)... just basic stuff
[17:54] <gladosv21> so my guess is, it misses a few bits/bytes, but don't have a clue how to fix it
[17:54] <dr_willis> gladosv21:  if the file is currupted.. then its mesed up.. unless its some odd encoding issue.
[17:54] <dr_willis> it should be very human readable. You could just pastebin it for us to look at.
[17:55] <gladosv21> dr_willis: yes it is definitely messed up :P but I think, don't have anything to back that up, but I think it misses a few bits and therefore is unreadable, like that it starts reading on the wrong spot... don't know for sure, not really into this
[17:55] <Rictoo> hi, im trying to append two very high resolution images to create an ~18000x15000 pixel image. its obviously taking a lot of time (5-10minutes). is there any way to speed up the process?
[17:55] <Rictoo> im using the convert tool from imagemagick :)
[17:56] <ikonia> Rictoo: it can only really go as fast as your machine can deal with it
[17:56] <saquib> hhh
[17:56] <Rictoo> :(
[17:56] <gladosv21> dr_willis: first few is like this: �%^W�&y���%�^V�
[17:56] <A|i3N> bastidrazor: Thank you, that looks helpful considering this is for a large media company that uses this stuff
[17:56] <dr_willis> gladosv21:  i would say.., its toast..
[17:56] <BluesKaj> DRW_, , my memory fails ...what's the command in the terminal to make a particular app default ?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> dr_willis,^
[17:57] <Rictoo> does anyone have access to very high resolution histological slides by chance? =D
[17:57] <bastidrazor> A|i3N: you're welcome
[17:57] <theadmin> BluesKaj: update-alternatives
[17:57] <gladosv21> dr_willis: isn't it possible that, say, the file recovery tool missed one bit, and if you prepend that bit, it all gets readable again?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> DRW_, pls ignore the above post
[17:57] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  you mean the update-alternatives tool?
[17:57] <dr_willis> gladosv21:  i would doubt it.
[17:57] <gladosv21> hmm ok
[17:58] <th^2> hmm my fresh lubuntu install doesnt find my wifi card.. iwconfig shows it ok. is there anyway to set up wifi without network-manager?
[17:58] <gladosv21> anyone know a channel that is more focussed on this topic?
[17:58] <dr_willis> if the bit that changed was a pointer to a differnt file.. :)
[17:59] <lan3y> hey i have a new laptop which has a intel hd3000 / ati radeon 6650m combo i would like to use the amd in ubuntu, whenever i attempt to install drivers X doesn't start on reboot, it either leaves me on "checking battery state" or the ubuntu splash.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, the update-alternatives seems to be for browsers...how is it used for other apps
[17:59] <ikonia> BluesKaj: it's use for other apps, such as java, mail server, etc etc.
[17:59] <ikonia> BluesKaj: not used for desktop apps though
[17:59] <ikonia> BluesKaj: (or many desktop apps, as thats normally handled through the window manager)
[18:00] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  theres some list thing to show all the alternetives. its used for Much more then browsers
[18:00] <dr_willis> !info galternatives
[18:00] <lan3y> also whenever i run fglrxinfo i get "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)"
[18:01] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, ikonia , thanks :)
[18:01] <freko> I've installed dvb-apps and kafeine, downloaded the firmware for my dvb usb stick (dvb-usb-vp7045-01.fw  on linuxtv.org). I have placed it on /lib/firmware but after reboot Ubuntu assistant for digital TV installation doesn't recognize my dvb receiver.
[18:02] <doodlenox> drwillis - i am going to try ubuntu10.11 desktop - via usb.. am i mad
[18:02] <ikonia> freko: is the device seen by the OS ?
[18:02] <HelloWorld321> doodlenox: that's how I did it
[18:03] <freko> no
[18:03] <HelloWorld321> (I think I mentioned that my cd player was broken)
[18:03] <th^2> hmm my fresh lubuntu install doesnt find my wifi card.. iwconfig shows it ok. is there anyway to set up wifi without network-manager?
[18:03] <ikonia> freko: ok, so you need to address that before dealing with any applications
[18:03] <ikonia> freko: is the card supported by linux ?
[18:03] <HelloWorld321> doodlenox: I had no trouble installing via USB with Maverick or Ocelot, but I did with Natty.
[18:03] <freko> yes it is
[18:04] <freko> Yes, in kernel since 2.6.13
[18:04] <ikonia> freko: ok - so what does the syslog say about it, why can't it be seen
[18:05] <konam> doodlenox i use ubuntu 10.10 and i installed it via usb
[18:05] <freko> how can I watch my syslog?
[18:05] <konam> you won't have a problem with it
[18:06] <ikonia> freko: open it with a text editor
[18:06] <MrS1lentcz> after problems with install ubuntu/kubuntu into dualboot i had to install it as signle boot. fine. i choose installed AUTOmatically kubuntu do FULL DISK and during the installation flash the message with:
[18:06] <MrS1lentcz> "the grub efi package failed to install into /target/. Without te grub boot loader, the installed syste will be not boot."
[18:06] <freko> ok
[18:07] <WinCamXP> Hello...I want to know a little thingy about SSH
[18:07] <vicsar> .
[18:07] <WinCamXP> I start a Minecraft server (it runs in the terminal, it's Java) using this Ubuntu machine, however I would like to access the console after it has already started over SSH.
[18:07] <WinCamXP> How would I do this?
[18:08] <freko> ikonia, where is the file?
[18:08] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  learn to use screen and or byobu.
[18:08] <freko> not on ~
[18:08] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  or just ssh in again from a new putty/ssh/whatever terminal
[18:08] <ikonia> freko: /var/log
[18:08] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  or start the command with a & at the end to spawn it to the background.
[18:09] <freko> thx
[18:09] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  screen would be a good tool to learn
[18:09] <WinCamXP> So I can use screen to access a terminal open on the screen over SSH?
[18:10] <dr_willis> !info screen
[18:10] <dr_willis> yes
[18:11] <WinCamXP> Is there a way to perform this without creen/byobu?
[18:11] <freko> ikonia, it's my sysslog file http://paste.ubuntu.com/744492/
[18:11] <WinCamXP> because I manually open the server from the server machine, and then I want to access the server console from a different machine over SSH
[18:11] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  i mentioned &  - read up on bash job controll
[18:11] <ikonia> freko: looks good
[18:11] <zteam> !fixapt
[18:12] <bttf> WinCamXP are you trying to access the same exact console window that you used on your machine, or just need a general terminal connection?
[18:12] <WinCamXP> I have a terminal open on my machine running a Minecraft server, and I want to access that same terminal froma  different machine
[18:12] <WinCamXP> over SSH
[18:12] <bttf> ok so when you start that terminal up on your server, make sure you do screen -xR first
[18:13] <bttf> and then when you connect from another machine, type in screen -xR
[18:13] <WinCamXP> I laucnh it with a .sh script
[18:13] <bttf> do screen -xR and then launch the script
[18:13] <untitled_only> Sup room
[18:13] <WinCamXP> should I add screen -xR before or after the java blahblah?
[18:13] <freko> ikonia, w_scan give me main:3118: FATAL: ***** NO USEABLE DVB-T CARD FOUND. *****
[18:13] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  you start screen and use it as your shell]
[18:13] <bttf> before
[18:13] <bttf> before everything
[18:13] <WinCamXP> because currently, this is the script: (gimme a sec)
[18:13] <dr_willis> byobu can set itself to start automatically
[18:13] <ikonia> freko: I told you to forget about the application until you get the system to see it
[18:13] <asdf_> hi there, I'm troubleshooting a no-audio problem in my laptop. Anyone can tellme witch model should I choose from this list? http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[18:14] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  you start the tool befor the sh command.. its that simple
[18:14] <asdf_> I've an XPS 1340
[18:14] <dr_willis> then you can have a 100+ shells going via screen if you wanted to
[18:14] <freko> ok I understand
[18:14] <dr_willis> you logoutm then ssh back in.. and they will all still be there WinCamXP
[18:15] <WinCamXP> so I change the script to this: http://pastebin.com/uE5xCm1C
[18:16] <WinCamXP> and then when I ssh, just use "screen -xR" and it will work?
[18:16] <SilfenX> I m running a wftp server on ubuntu over a PPTP VPN connection that blocks all ports below 1025, thus I have moved all default ports above this blocked range in wftpd settings and also made adjustments accordingly in the router port forwarding section but my specific ports remain closed. Do I have to allow external connections to wftpd somewhere in ubuntu too?
[18:16] <freko> ikonia, how can I add my peripherics on the systeme?
[18:16] <dr_willis> you run screen when you first log in WinCamXP . spend some time playing with screen.
[18:16] <WinCamXP> would it work with my script?
[18:16] <ikonia> freko: you need to see if the system sees the device and what warning/error it gives when it see it in the sylog
[18:16] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  OR if this is a ubuntu box. use byobu, its a more friendly screen variant
[18:17] <ShawnRisk> I am getting unknown proftpd in the ftp logs and not sure how to fix this?  I am using Ubuntu 11.04.  Any ideas?
[18:17] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  your script has nothing to do with screen....
[18:17] <bttf> configure: error: Package requirements (x11 xi xrandr xinerama) were not met... is there a giant package i can get that will take care of these dependencies??
[18:17] <dr_willis> screen/byobu is giveing you  easier shell ussage.
[18:17] <WinCamXP> I just want to simply access a terminal open in a window on this over SSH
[18:17] <ikonia> bttf: what are you trying to install ?
[18:17] <bttf> compiling some wacom drivers
[18:18] <bttf> running a file called autogen.sh
[18:18] <ikonia> bttf: they wacom drivers are in the repos, you don't need to compile them
[18:18] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  so... install and run byobu, set it to be your default shell.. and awy you go.. run  your server, start a new terminal... repeat as needed
[18:18] <bttf> ikonia
[18:18] <WinCamXP> ae all of the commands and whatnot the same as bash?
[18:18] <bttf> you can't possibly knwo what my situation is, so please , id appreciate if you didn't avert from the original question
[18:18] <ikonia> bttf: help yourself then
[18:19] <bttf> its not like i havent
[18:19] <WinCamXP> if I set byobu to the default shell, when I launch the server, how would I access it over SSH after it has already been launched?
[18:19] <tolland> hi, in 11.10 desktop is there a package to add the full apps menu hierarchy to the launcher bar?
[18:19] <bekks> WinCamXP: You cant.
[18:19] <bekks> WinCamXP: Dont set it as default shell.
[18:20] <WinCamXP> okay, well, bekks, I just want to be able to access a terminal open in a window over SSH
[18:20] <bekks> WinCamXP: Then use bash as default shell, and start screen within, after login in over ssh, just use screen -DR
[18:20] <bttf> WinCamXP i already told you man
[18:21] <mang0> I'm trying to set up an FTP server, following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632841 however, I can't seem to port foward? :/ I've got a siemans gigaset se572 router @ 192.168.1.1 any help fowarding port 80 like the page says would be great :)
[18:21] <bttf> as soon as you start your server, do a screen -xR before anything, and then do your stuff
[18:21] <ikonia> mang0: contact your router support resources
[18:21] <Guest98475> yeats: It's me again (with the problem in epiphany). This is the error message I got: NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: rpc_end_sync called when not in sync!
[18:21] <bttf> and when you access the machine from another computer, just type screen -xR and you will see everything on your server's terminal window
[18:21] <WinCamXP> bekks: so just start it normally on the server machine, then SSH into it from another machine, use screen -DR and it will work?
[18:21] <bastidrazor> mang0: its possibly your ISP is blocking port 80
[18:21] <mang0> ikonia: I'm pretty certain it's nothing to do with that. I just don't know how to do it....
[18:21] <bekks> WinCamXP: As you've been already told, yes. :)
[18:21] <mang0> bastidrazor ------------_^
[18:21] <bastidrazor> WinCamXP: or screen -x
[18:21] <freko> ikonia, with cat and grep can you help my to parse my syslog file?
[18:22] <ikonia> mang0: then you'll need to contact your ISP as the port forwarding isn't an ubuntu feature
[18:22] <WinCamXP> okay, bttf, so read the script between the dashes here: http://pastebin.com/uE5xCm1C - and then do screen -xR in SSH?
[18:22] <ShawnRisk> I am getting unknown proftpd in the ftp logs and not sure how to fix this?  I am using Ubuntu 11.04.  Any ideas?
[18:22] <ikonia> freko: read through the syslog, look for the device and read the errors/warnings ?
[18:22] <bttf> yeah thats fine WinCamXP
[18:22] <gunfire007> which is the best open source software for audio video conferencing ?
[18:22] <bastidrazor> mang0: http://portforward.com  will help you
[18:22] <WinCamXP> let me test it
[18:22] <mang0> ikonia: true. k.
[18:22] <mang0> bastidrazor: Ah, cool!
[18:22] <WinCamXP> will the terminal still open in a window on the server machine?
[18:23] <pierre_> Hi, I need to change permission -rw-r--r-- 1 pete pete but when I chmod 644 *, I get -rw-r--r 1 root root. Why?
[18:23] <blackeyed> hey
[18:23] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  no.. its all a multiplexed single window.
[18:23] <ikonia> pierre_: chmod does not change the owner
[18:23] <ikonia> pierre_: chown changes the owner
[18:23] <blackeyed> does any one can help me with some issues in banshee?
[18:23] <pierre_> thanks ikonia!
[18:23] <MrSassyPants> for the love of god, is there something else for scanning than xsane?
[18:23] <MrSassyPants> xsane is positively horrible
[18:24] <dr_willis> !sane
[18:24] <popey> MrSassyPants: simple-scan
[18:24] <dr_willis> i think simple-scan is all i use :)
[18:24] <WinCamXP> I got s "1: screen not found"
[18:24] <Guest98475> yeats: and I also get this error message in epiphany: *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/build/buildd/nspluginwrapper-1.4.4/src/npw-wrapper.c:2219):invoke_NPP_SetWindow: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection))
[18:24] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  you really should spend 20 min or so reading some screen tutorials.
[18:24] <Rei`> Has anyone tried Ubuntu on the Toshiba NB550D-T10 or U10? I'm really looking for an opinion on how well the C60 based models run Ubuntu Unity
[18:25] <blackeyed> I need some help with banshee..
[18:25] <ikonia> !hcl | Rei`
[18:25] <blackeyed> some one
[18:25] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  or just use byobu instead of screen http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3906541/Byobu-Like-Screen-but-Better.htm
[18:25] <ikonia> Rei`: check out the hardware components and you'll get a fair idea of how supported it is
[18:25] <Rei`> ikonia: Checked the wiki, it's not there
[18:25] <popey> !ask | blackeyed
[18:25] <WinCamXP> look, if I start the server normally and then SSH, and use screen -DR, and it will work?
[18:25] <ikonia> Rei`: don't look for the specific model, look at it's compoenents
[18:26] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  screen will give you a multiplxed shell.. yes
[18:26] <|Shay|> WinCamXP: It should, but Byoubu does a lot of the configuring for you
[18:26] <Rei`> I'm looking at battery life more than anything, I'm pretty confident that the main components will work as they're fairly typical
[18:26] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  if you get disconnected.. you reconnect, and run screen and all will be as you left it.
[18:26] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[18:26] <WinCamXP> What I'm saying is I will NOT use any screen commands AT ALL on the server, and then if I use screen -DR in SSH, it will connect to the terminal i want?
[18:27] <ikonia> Rei`: the battery life is normally the ball park of the advertised battery life from the manucaturer, most models fall into the ball park
[18:27] <dr_willis> WinCamXP:  you are confiused about terms.. you ssh to the server, and screen runs ON the server.
[18:27] <|Shay|> WinCamXP: Yes
[18:27] <WinCamXP> okay
[18:27] <dr_willis>  screen then runs the terminals on the server
[18:27] <|Shay|> WinCamXP: That's what sreen does
[18:27] <Rei`> ikonia: Does Linux get a similar battery life to Windows? Manufacturer says circa 9 hours of light use
[18:27] <dr_willis> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935  screen for beginners
[18:27] <ikonia> Rei`: normally in the same ball park unless there is a specific problem with it
[18:27] <doodlenox> ok so now i have ubuntu installed
[18:28] <doodlenox> any ideas on how best to get sound working
[18:28] <dr_willis> night all
[18:28] <untitled_only> Auto config
[18:28] <blackeyed> I need to go to the channel #banshee on irc.gnome.org, how can i do that?
[18:29] <PeteM143> Hi everyone! is this the ubuntu tech support forum?
[18:29] <ikonia> PeteM143: it's an irc channel for ubuntu support, yes
[18:29] <pangolin> blackeyed: /server irc.gnome.org
[18:29] <untitled_only> Yes
[18:29] <PeteM143> Excellent.. I'm in the right place
[18:29] <untitled_only> Yes
[18:29] <untitled_only> How can we help u?
[18:29] <doodlenox> i have no sound but it seems that everything is installed correctly.. any quick fixes
[18:30] <PeteM143> I'm a noob at Ubuntu 11.10 (experienced Windows User)
[18:30] <freko> ikonia, i thinks the error msg is "Nov 20 19:29:21 media-serveur kernel: [ 6964.144037] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -62"
[18:30] <blackeyed> im using Xchat, where do u now where i can change that value to irc.gnome.org?
[18:30] <Guest98475> j
[18:30] <untitled_only> Join charring
[18:30] <untitled_only> Join chat
[18:30] <ikonia> freko: sadly that doesn't give us much
[18:31] <PeteM143> Trying to install a printer. I downloaded the cups driver /home/peteslaptop/Downloads/cupswrapperHL2280DW-2.0.4-2.i386.rpm
[18:31] <pangolin> blackeyed: in the Network List
[18:31] <CharminTheMoose> How can I remove libcups2 without it taking half my system with it?
[18:31] <ikonia> PeteM143: that's an rpm package for redhat systems, not ubuntu systems
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> PeteM143: you want a deb. Is there no deb file?
[18:31] <Guest98475> Hi there, I have the following error in epiphany: *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/build/buildd/nspluginwrapper-1.4.4/src/npw-wrapper.c:2219):invoke_NPP_SetWindow: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) - it is almost about to crash
[18:32] <PeteM143> Hmmm didn't see one on the brother site
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> PeteM143: is it a Brother printer?
[18:32] <keithclark> I am trying to access an application on a remote machine via ssh -X host, but when I do I get 'Error: no display specified'.  Any idea on how to correct this?
[18:32] <PeteM143> Yes, HL280DW
[18:32] <WinCamXP> okay, will somebody help me?
[18:33] <WinCamXP> When I use screen -DR, it just starts a blank terminal at the home dir
[18:33] <untitled_only> Check the remote host
[18:33] <ikonia> WinCamXP: you've been getting help
[18:33] <ikonia> WinCamXP: did you read the screen tutorial/basics as suggested
[18:33] <untitled_only> Make sure u got the correct path
[18:33] <pikaciu> doodlenox: try system - preferences -  sound - output and change  Connector
[18:33] <WinCamXP> just tell me what I need to do to start a terminal on this machine, and then be able to access the same terminal on a different one over SSH
[18:33] <WinCamXP> that's ALL I want
[18:33] <stillParsnip> Petem143: i know for a fact they have debs
[18:34] <ikonia> WinCamXP: you're running a terminal - that's the blank session you see
[18:34] <ikonia> WinCamXP: that is a new shell for you to use
[18:34] <PeteM143> OK Action.. Where might I find these?
[18:34] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: stupid GSM blackspot disconnected me
[18:34] <PeteM143> and do I need the terminal to install
[18:34] <WinCamXP> I want to have the window OPEN on the server machine AND open on the SSH client
[18:34] <madoo> hi evry one there
[18:34] <ikonia> WinCamXP: that's a different situation and more complex
[18:35] <madoo> i need hellp plz
[18:35] <untitled_only> Start screen
[18:35] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: search for: brother Linux     and you'll find the site
[18:35] <freko> ikonia I don't found any other error
[18:35] <conbot> don't you guys get a bunch of trolls in here?
[18:35] <ikonia> WinCamXP: you'd need to launch a session on the machine when it boots up underscreen control, then connect to that later.
[18:35] <ikonia> WinCamXP: if you read the screen tutorial you'll get an idea of what people are tryig to explain to you
[18:35] <WinCamXP> What if I initiate the server normally over SSH with java -Xm...blah..., would it run in SSH?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Guest98475, try reinstalling nspluginwrapper , or if you're on Oneiric 64bit system remove it and install gnash , and make sure you have multiarch-support installed aswell
[18:36] <conbot> oh
[18:36] <conbot> that is not noobish
[18:36] <ikonia> WinCamXP: depends on the java application
[18:36] <WinCamXP> it's a minecraft srver
[18:36] <WinCamXP> runs in the terminal
[18:36] <madoo> my flv vedio not play its want gstreamer but when i download thats its cant setup
[18:36] <ikonia> WinCamXP: if it is a terminal driven application, sure
[18:36] <conbot> this is my equation: easy_to_use * noob = troll
[18:36] <madoo> plz i need some one hell me for thats
[18:36] <ikonia> WinCamXP: ssh in, start a screen session, launch minecraft, disconnect the screen session
[18:36] <ikonia> conbot: what are you blathering on about
[18:37] <Darkenvy> powerbook running ubuntu: I cant get yaboot to change settings under "/etc/yaboot.conf"
[18:37] <ikonia> conbot: no-one is trolling, this is a support channel, please stick to that topic
[18:37] <Darkenvy> I change the file but it does not apply when booting the powerbook
[18:37] <untitled_only> Conbot go to ##ubuntu off subject. This is help only
[18:37] <WinCamXP> I understand SSH is different than the terminal window on the machine itself
[18:37] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: you can. Or you can install the common followed by the wrapper deb
[18:37] <WinCamXP> it's like a personal terminal for each client
[18:37] <ikonia> WinCamXP: it will be fine
[18:38] <conbot> ok
[18:38] <WinCamXP> so if I START the server over SSH, I'dd assume it would run entirely in the SSH terminal.
[18:38] <ikonia> WinCamXP: yes
[18:38] <WinCamXP> What happens if I disconnect?
[18:38] <ikonia> WinCamXP: nothing, READ the screen basics
[18:38] <WinCamXP> I'm not going to use any screen commands for this, what happens when I disconnect from SSH?
[18:38] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: what model is the printer please?
[18:39] <WinCamXP> after I started the server using SSH.
[18:39] <ikonia> WinCamXP: it will die
[18:39] <WinCamXP> so it just kils the server?
[18:39] <ikonia> yes
[18:39] <Bajinga> How would I go about putting an application onto the Software Centre if I had the code?
[18:39] <WinCamXP> what screen command could prevent that?
[18:39] <blackeyed2> some one can say me where i can find support for banshee app?
[18:39] <pangolin> WinCamXP: if you want to understand and learn you need to read the tutorial you were linked
[18:39] <untitled_only> Add source
[18:39] <WinCamXP> link again?
[18:39] <ikonia> WinCamXP: I'm not helping you any more - you refuse to read the screen basics that would answer this in about 15 minutes
[18:39] <ikonia> WinCamXP: no - I'm done
[18:39] <PeteM143> Its a HL-2280DW. I'm not sure how all these work, as I'm very new to it all
[18:39] <WinCamXP> I
[18:39] <WinCamXP> I'll read t, just link it again please
[18:39] <ikonia> no
[18:40] <ikonia> you've had your chance
[18:40] <WinCamXP> !help screen
[18:40] <WinCamXP> .....I tried
[18:40] <pikaciu> coooolllll
[18:40] <pangolin> WinCamXP: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[18:40] <WinCamXP> hank you
[18:40] <blackeyed2> some one can help me in banshee??
[18:40] <untitled_only> How may I help u?
[18:41] <blackeyed2> i cant add a podcast
[18:41] <untitled_only> Blackeyed2
[18:41] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: its not hard. The wrapper depends on the common, so common needs installing first
[18:41] <Darkenvy> Nevermind, I solved my issue by running "ybin" after enditing "/etc/yaboot.conf". Thank you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264712
[18:41] <PeteM143> When I was looking on the site, it didn't indicate a .deb file was needed,but I'm betting they assume you kinda know what you're doing, which I don't just yet
[18:41] <untitled_only> Do u have the url?
[18:41] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to remove everything CUPS related from my system (am running a laptop), how necessary is the ubuntu-desktop package?
[18:41] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: it's just a meta package
[18:41] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: why do you want to remove it all ?
[18:42] <bastidrazor> CharminTheMoose: you could just stop the service.
[18:42] <Shirakawasuna> it isn't necessary, CharminTheMoose, but the next time you upgrade I believe it's the ubuntu-desktop package that pulls in some of the new standard stuff (e.g. if banshee is dropped)
[18:42] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, I'm running a laptop, so I don't need printing facilities on it.
[18:42] <FusionX> why do the fonts on firefox in ubuntu feel different than firefox in windows?
[18:42] <PeteM143> OK. is this 'common' an .lpr or cups? not sure exactly how to install. not like windows with a .exe
[18:42] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: so just disable it
[18:42] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: removing it is overkill
[18:42] <blackeyed2> when i try to add the url of the podcast nothing happens
[18:42] <untitled_only> Because it is...
[18:43] <untitled_only> Try restarting the application
[18:43] <pangolin> PeteM143: the Brother site has instructions just make sure to follow the ones for Ubuntu/Debian
[18:43] <FusionX> also, can I replace xfce's volume control with unity's volume control?
[18:43] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, I don't really want unused packages taking up diskspace either.
[18:43] <boxybrown> anyone with experience using x2go?
[18:43] <stillParsnip> welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html  PeteM143
[18:44] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: windows and linux usually have different fonts
[18:44] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: it doesn't take up much, but other applications want the cups system to be there, so keep it simple and just disable it
[18:44] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: what do you want in the xfce volume control that the unity one has?
[18:44] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: its exactly the same method as dumb exes. Just install one deb then the other. Same doubleclick style.
[18:45] <CharminTheMoose> ikonia, fair point I guess. How would I go about disabling the daemon?
[18:45] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: i can't see a single difference i
[18:45] <ikonia> disable the upstart job for it
[18:45] <ikonia> !upstart | CharminTheMoose
[18:45] <PeteM143> No terminal required?
[18:46] <CharminTheMoose> Thank you ikonia :)
[18:46] <untitled_only> Aandroid isn't here?
[18:46] <WinCamXP> I just read that thing, and the server is runnign on screen 1.
[18:46] <WinCamXP> I tried using SSH, but aparently it's using separate screens
[18:46] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: you can install debs in terminal if you want, you can even use wget to download the debs in terminal if you want.
[18:47] <WinCamXP> because I did ctrl-A 1, and it said "this is screen 1 (bash)"
[18:47] <Icy_mist566> Hello
[18:47] <untitled_only> Hey
[18:47] <PeteM143> Remember, I'm really new at this... wget?
[18:47] <Icy_mist566> I need some help
[18:47] <WinCamXP> could somebody please tell me what I did wrong
[18:47] <Guest98475> BluesKaj: thanks, I almost found the solution myself (I re-installed the viewer). Do you know whether the packages used by epiphany are anyway connected to rhytmbox? (I was formally Guest98475)
[18:47] <untitled_only> Apt-get install
[18:48] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: if i wasn't on my phone i'd make you a script you can run and it will be fine
[18:48] <stillParsnip> PeteM143: wget is a way to download files in terminal
[18:48] <PeteM143> OK. No Worries. I'm learning. ever so new at this
 Blackeyed2
[18:48] <untitled_only> Same here, working from a iPod touch
[18:49] <PeteM143> so I simply type wget in the directory where the files are?
[18:49] <Shirakawasuna> WinCamXP: what are you trying to do?
[18:49] <pangolin> PeteM143: for now focus on getting the printer working.
[18:49] <Icy_mist566> Ok how do i log in terminal as root
[18:50] <WinCamXP> I'm trying to sue the screen command to run a Minecaft server terminal in a window on the server machine, and acceds that same terminal over SSH
[18:50] <pangolin> Icy_mist566: sudo -i
[18:50] <untitled_only> Blackeyed2 what's the problem?
[18:50] <Shirakawasuna> Icy_mist566: you login as your user first, then sudo su
[18:50] <pangolin> no sudo -i
[18:50] <Icy_mist566> thanks, i was trying to log in like i was using fedora
[18:50] <PeteM143> OK pangolin. I have the page with the brother instructions as Still Parsnip guided me
[18:51] <untitled_only> U can use both sudo -I or su
[18:51] <untitled_only> They are both root
[18:51] <navatwo> Hi, I need to restart compiz, from a tty. How would I go about this?
[18:51] <Da|Mummy> whenever i try and install ubuntu on my netbook, the install boot stops at " * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility         [ OK ]
[18:51] <pangolin> PeteM143: I say that because it is easy to get yourself lost in learning something new and forgetting what you want to actually get done. :)
[18:51] <bytenik> Hi all -- what might make a program work just fine from the console but freeze when called from a PROGRAM stanza in a udev rule?
[18:51] <PeteM143> The instructions don't mention a .deb file
[18:51] <PeteM143> No worries... I gotcha
[18:51] <navatwo> Da|Mummy: you might have to set parameters in the booting of Linux.. check for special instructions with your model of netbook
[18:51] <Icy_mist566> well, for some reason the password i have wouldn’t work and my user account is an admin, but it still would say authentication error
[18:52] <PeteM143> only an .lpr and a .cups
[18:52] <Shirakawasuna> Icy_mist566: if you're new to linux stuff in general, be careful... you can damage things while root
[18:52] <pikaciu> unititled_only: on my  system sudo -i works bat su not at all
[18:52] <Da|Mummy> navatwo, where would i check for this?
[18:52] <pangolin> PeteM143: right, they assume the user knows a little more then they do but you are running Ubuntu so you must use the debs
[18:52] <navatwo> Da|Mummy: google is a first step :)
[18:52] <navatwo> ubottu: compiz
[18:52] <jazzzzz> hello
[18:53] <Icy_mist566> Im not new, im just new to ubuntu
[18:53] <untitled_only> U might have to create a password of the root
[18:53] <jazzzzz> i try to compil alsa and i have some trouble
[18:53] <jazzzzz> can somebody help me?
[18:53] <PeteM143> OK.. so I need to download the deb. Is there a difference in versions I need to worry about?
[18:53] <navatwo> Icy_mist566: `sudo passwd root`
[18:53] <untitled_only> Use passwd
[18:53] <pikaciu> untitled_only: ok tx
[18:53] <untitled_only> No problem
[18:54] <pangolin> PeteM143: get the most recent version
[18:54] <prouter> A|i3N, #bash
[18:54] <oCean> navatwo: please don't suggest that here
[18:54] <PeteM143> OK.. Let me look
[18:55] <jazzzzz> this is the last line of the compil  : make: *** [install-headers] Erreur 1
[18:56] <navatwo> oCean: which?
[18:56] <jazzzzz> i don't know what to do....
[18:56] <oCean> navatwo: enabling root password is not supported
[18:56] <navatwo> he was asking for it..
[18:56] <navatwo> :/
[18:56] <jazzzzz> a problem of compilation i guess but idon't know why
[18:56] <navatwo> but, OK
[18:56] <jazzzzz> can somebody help me?
[18:56] <ikonia> jazzzzz: alsa is already available for you pre-compiled in the ubuntu repos
[18:56] <ikonia> jazzzzz: you don't need to compile it
[18:56] <untitled_only> Ok I'm taking a break... Be back later
[18:57] <ShawnRisk> I was able to figure out my other problem
[18:57] <jazzzzz> yes i need because i have a special external sound card and i need to recompil
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[18:57] <StepNjump> Hi, a chmod/chown question: Is there a way to change all folders and files in the home directory (other than hidden and system files)'s attributes at once? Yesterday I moved files from a sdc1 partition using root but now there's a whole bunch of files that are stamped root!
[18:57] <ikonia> jazzzzz: why do you need to re-copile, what is the option you need to use ?
[18:58] <ikonia> StepNjump: chown -R
[18:58] <StepNjump> sorry ikonia, if you wrote me.. I didn't read it because I had to reset my app
[18:58] <Rya_n> How do I install pypanel?
[18:58] <StepNjump> yes ikonia but won't that change the attributes to the system files and hidden files?
[18:58] <ikonia> StepNjump: use sudo
[18:59] <Rya_n> How do I install pypanel? It isn't in the repositories.
[18:59] <ikonia> StepNjump: it will change all files
[18:59] <FusionX> Shirakawasuna: Xfce volume control doesn't use the maximum volume of my speakers like in Windows. In ubuntu, unity, there was an option to increase the volume beyond 100% that fixed this problem.
[18:59] <StepNjump> ok thanks ikonia
[18:59] <ikonia> StepNjump: you'll need to be clever and use something like grep to remove . files
[18:59] <StepNjump> I'll try it
[18:59] <FusionX> Shirakawasuna: sorry for the late reply though
[18:59] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: ah, I see. See if you can tweak this with alsa.
[19:00] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: crank up your volume to max with the xfce applet, then open a terminal and run alsamixer
[19:00] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: is either 'Master' or 'PCM' below 100%?
[19:00] <jonaboule> salut
[19:00] <pooltable> need a epub reader thanks ?
[19:01] <Rya_n> How do I install pypanel? It isn't in the repositories.
[19:01] <pangolin> Rya_n: download the source and compile it
[19:01] <Rya_n> how do I compile?
[19:01] <ikonia> Rya_n: the instructions should be on pypannel site
 the card is not detected and they say i must recompil with the last alsa version
[19:02] <ikonia> jazzzzz: who says ?
[19:02] <pikaciu> Rya_n: usually  you cd in the dir and type configure - make  - make install
[19:02] <ikonia> Rya_n: ignore what pikaciu said
[19:02] <jazzzzz> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[19:02] <ikonia> Rya_n: read the install instructions
[19:03] <pikaciu> why  ???
[19:03] <jazzzzz> http://www.linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Emu_1616m&highlight=emu%201616
[19:03] <ikonia> pikaciu: because you don't type commands like that blind
[19:03] <jazzzzz> http://fr.audiofanzine.com/carte-son-pcmcia/e-mu/1616M/forums/t.280979,emu-1616m-adaptateur-pcmcia-expresscard-linux.html
[19:03] <jazzzzz> is tha enough?
[19:03] <ikonia> jazzzzz: those modules are already in the kernel
[19:04] <ikonia> intel-hda is already supported in the current ubuntu alsa build
[19:05] <StepNjump> ikonia, now I have another problem.... Is there a way to target chmod and chown just at folders OR files specifically?
[19:05] <keithclark> ikonia, Actually I'm curious, where are the install directions on the PyPanel page?  I don't seem to find them myself.
[19:06] <ikonia> StepNjump: no, you'll have to be clever with grep for example to make a list of what you want to change
[19:06] <jpmh> I am new to 11.10 and the new interface - I think I like it - in the old GNOME I had a couple of things in the panel I liked: weather and system monitor - how do I do that in unity?
[19:06] <ikonia> keithclark: I've not loked
[19:06] <pangolin> keithclark: last modified in 2005...not worth the time
 yes but cat /proc/asound/cards don't show the card
[19:06] <ikonia> keithclark: it will be on the page, in the source tarball etc
[19:06] <StepNjump> mmm that seems to be complex ikonia. Ok thanks!
 can we speak private please?
[19:06] <ikonia> jazzzzz: no need to speak in private
[19:06] <keithclark> ikonia, ah, I see.
[19:07] <jazzzzz> ok
[19:07] <jazzzzz> so the module is here
[19:07] <jazzzzz> but i don't see the card
[19:07] <ikonia> is the module loaded ?
[19:07] <jazzzzz> someone have exactly the same trouble and compil
[19:08] <ikonia> jazzzzz: ok - talk to them then
[19:08] <jazzzzz> http://fr.audiofanzine.com/carte-son-pcmcia/e-mu/1616M/forums/t.280979,emu-1616m-adaptateur-pcmcia-expresscard-linux.html
[19:08] <jazzzzz> here but in french sorry
[19:08] <ikonia> jazzzzz: that's for a PCI card
[19:08] <ikonia> pcmcia card sorry
[19:08] <jazzzzz> no
[19:08] <jazzzzz> yes
[19:08] <ringsoforion> is there a url with installation instructions for the resume and intel hd problems for a leveno z570 ubuntu 10.04 installation
[19:08] <jazzzzz> so what should i do to see my card?
[19:08] <ikonia> so what has that got to do with your card
[19:08] <jazzzzz> mine is psmcia too
[19:09] <jazzzzz> exactly the same
[19:09] <ikonia> jazzzzz: find out if the module is loaded
[19:09] <jazzzzz> no it's not
[19:09] <jazzzzz> but i can't do it
[19:09] <ikonia> jazzzzz: look in the syslog to see if your card is seen
[19:09] <ikonia> jazzzzz: ok - the modules not loaded, so that's why you can't see it
[19:09] <ikonia> (the card)
[19:09] <StepNjump> ikonia, I found this fyi: chmod -R 0700 *
[19:09] <StepNjump>  chmod 0600 $(find . ! -type d)
[19:10] <jazzzzz> how I load it?
[19:10] <ikonia> jazzzzz: modeprobe
[19:10] <ikonia> jazzzzz: modprobe
[19:10] <ikonia> StepNjump: don't recommend either of those, but your call
[19:11] <jazzzzz> modprobe snd-emu10k1
[19:11] <jazzzzz> when i do that it looks ok
[19:11] <jazzzzz> but the card is not seen more
[19:11] <ikonia> jazzzzz that's not the intel-hda module
[19:12] <jazzzzz> no it's not
[19:12] <ikonia> jazzzzz: so why are you doing that then ?
[19:12] <jazzzzz> the modul is for my card emu1616m
[19:12] <StepNjump> ikonia, why?
[19:12] <ikonia> StepNjump: because they won't do what you want
[19:12] <jazzzzz> and the modul is snd-emu10k1
[19:12] <ikonia> jazzzzz: then why did you give me this link http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[19:12] <PeteM143> I did discover a printer install 'help' it is linux-brprinter-installer-1.0.3-1.gz
[19:13] <PeteM143> I'm not sure what to do with that
[19:13] <jazzzzz> oh i'm sorry this is a mistake
[19:13] <jazzzzz> a big one i'm sorry
[19:13] <crassus_> So, I apparently have two instances of irssi running according to `ps aux | grep irssi`
[19:13] <jazzzzz> this is for the other card inside the laptop
[19:13] <crassus_> I'm trying to figure out which is which, so I can kill the redundant one
[19:13] <PeteM143> anyone have any clue about that ?
[19:13] <StepNjump> ok ikonia, so it's not like it will delete my files or anything right?
[19:14] <ikonia> StepNjump: no, nothing like that
[19:14] <StepNjump> ok good thanks!
[19:15] <PeteM143> suppose not?
[19:15] <jazzzzz> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-emu10k1
[19:15] <FusionX> Shirakawasuna: no, tried them, all of them are set to 100%
[19:15] <jazzzzz> but maybe you're right, this is the page i was looking
[19:15] <jazzzzz> and it's for the pci card
[19:15] <jazzzzz> maybe it's different for my pcmcia?
[19:16] <StepNjump> yes you are right ikonia. It works on some directories but not all... mmmm
 how do i know if a module is charged well or not?
[19:16] <keithclark> pangolin, I see an update on 2010-01-26 on their sourceforge website.
[19:16] <ikonia> I'm sorry I don't know what you're saying
[19:17] <furetto1984> !list
[19:17] <pangolin> keithclark: cool, didn't see.
[19:18] <euc> Hi. My sound isn't working. I tried using ubuntu-bug but I didn't see anything useful. I haven't added any peripherals or made any changes except installing php-pear since the sound was known to be working.
[19:18] <Shirakawasuna> FusionX: strange. My only knowledge of increasing the volume past that uses software tricks, it doesn't actually increase the real volume. I'm not sure how to actually swap out the controls, though, so you'll have to ask again, sorry!
[19:19] <PeteM143> Anyone else in here a total noob? I'm pretty lost
[19:19] <jonaboule> caca
[19:19] <jazzzzz> ikonia do you want to help?
[19:19] <xruud> Does anyone know if there is a way to make the context menu's in the launcher work the first time I right click? Sometimes they don't work even though I can see them
[19:19] <PeteM143> Printer install? nobody?
[19:19] <ikonia> jazzzzz: I told you in pm after I told you not to pm me, I'm now ignoring you
[19:20] <PeteM143> Still can't figure it out
[19:20] <jazzzzz> ok
[19:20] <keithclark> Rya_n, pypanel should not require compiling.  It is written in python.
[19:20] <jazzzzz> what should i do?
[19:20] <PeteM143> ?
[19:21] <jonaboule> prout
[19:22] <mongy> Anyone with a Sony Viao laptop getting more than 1 hour battery life?
[19:22] <keithclark> mongy, how old is the battery?
[19:23] <pepee> hi. latest ati driver broke suspend/resume: after resume, I get a black screen, but the desktop environment works fine
[19:23] <ringsoforion> #intel-gfx
[19:24] <mongy> keithclark: thing is, I dont know for sure, it's a 2nd hand laptop, roughly year old.  its in great condition tho and looks hardly used. not a single speck or spot on the screen.
[19:24] <PeteM143> Anyone want to take a shot at helping me install a printer
[19:24] <StepNjump> ikonia: is this one better? find . -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \;
[19:24] <PeteM143> ?
[19:24] <keithclark> Rya_n, here are the instructions to install:  http://pastebin.com/2n5txGXt  Sometimes the quickest answer is not the best answer
[19:24] <ikonia> StepNjump: a bit, but that will only do directories
[19:25] <mongy> keithclark: I had someone elses to fix which was exactly the same model last week, and it was the same battery life.
[19:25] <keithclark> mongy, what model?
[19:25] <PeteM143> Not so much I guess
[19:25] <mongy> keithclark: pcg-61611m
[19:25] <StepNjump> Yes that's I'm looking for ikonia. The other one works but on 20% of my directories.. I'll try this one to see what happens
[19:25] <FlavioTrashPunk> rede n-1.cc
[19:25] <FlavioTrashPunk> alguem
[19:25] <pepee> does anyone knows how to fix suspend/resume problems?
[19:25] <StepNjump> ikonia: Eureka!
[19:26] <StepNjump> it works!
[19:26] <ikonia> StepNjump: well done
[19:26] <PeteM143> OK.. try something else
[19:26] <mongy> keithclark: actually might be closer to 2 yrs old
[19:26] <StepNjump> thanks for your great help
[19:26] <StepNjump> you saved me 3 hours of work!!!!
[19:27] <keithclark> mongy, depends on if it has been cycled a lot.   There is a program to check for this, I just have to remember what it is.
[19:27] <mongy> keithclark: I have read about a power regression bug or some such
[19:28] <mongy> keithclark: it suggested adding pcie_aspm=force to grub but this has no affect
[19:28] <ikonia> StepNjump: you found it yourself, the pat on the back is yours
[19:28] <keithclark> mongy, yeah, researching that now myself
[19:29] <xruud> again, is it normal that the launchers right click menu does not always work?
[19:29] <mongy> xruud: I get that too
[19:30] <StepNjump> ikonia lol
[19:30] <StepNjump> It's not fully working... ahhh testing more ikonia
[19:30] <jazzzzz> Big problem with the souncard!!!
[19:30] <StopSOPA> will SOPA and protect IP act hurt linux distros like ubuntu? :(
[19:30] <bastidrazor> StopSOPA: you tell us. you seem to know more about it
[19:30] <heoa> mutt with failed SASL support, is there some patched mutt in apt-get or?
[19:31] <StopSOPA> i don't!
[19:31] <keithclark> Rya_n, Did my information prove useful?
[19:31] <mongy> keithclark: batmon ?
[19:31] <jazzzzz> the modul is charged but the card still don't appear, so this is not the good modul? am I right or there is something i miss?
[19:31] <StopSOPA> a person on a ytube video said it could make linux disappear. :(
[19:31] <keithclark> mongy, I have no idea of what you are saying.
[19:31] <keithclark> mongy, oh, a possible program?
[19:31] <mongy> keithclark: the app you mentioned to see battery stats
[19:31] <StopSOPA> i hope it isn't true.
[19:32] <bastidrazor> StopSOPA: this isn't the proper channel for this conversation. join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <fellayaboy> does anyone know a good network simulator for linux
[19:32] <StopSOPA> also i have a on topic question.
[19:32] <fellayaboy> for ubuntu i mean
[19:32] <StopSOPA> will ubuntu 10.10 still install and allow me to install the updates?
[19:32] <keithclark> StopSOPA, nice name
[19:32] <FusionX> can I replace xfce's volume control with unity's volume control?
[19:34] <keithclark> mongy, yeah, still trying different things out on my Compaq laptop here.....I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome 3 and I don't seem to be able to find the program that I had before that told me a whole bunch about my battery
[19:35] <speedmastero> hello to all
[19:35] <speedmastero> need some help if possible
[19:35] <doodlenox> how long should resizing partition take\
[19:35] <bastidrazor> StopSOPA: 10.10 still has some life left.
[19:35] <mongy> keithclark: thanks, well anyway it doesnt solve my problem :(
[19:35] <keithclark> speedmastero, question in detail!
[19:36] <StopSOPA> ok
[19:36] <keithclark> mongy, It might.  We need to find the problem first.
[19:36] <speedmastero> are there any known problems with power managment in 11.10
[19:36] <StopSOPA> I am thinking about installing 10.10 on my desktop computer and finally get rid of winxp
[19:36] <bastidrazor> StopSOPA: you have about 5 months worth of updates before it is End Of Life
[19:37] <mongy> keithclark: I think its just bad linux support.  Got the same with an exact same model.
[19:37] <keithclark> mongy, hmmm....I'll bet there is a solution.
[19:37] <StopSOPA> ok thanks :)
[19:37] <mongy> keithclark: if I had a windows disc I would try it..
[19:37] <speedmastero> keithclark
[19:37] <keithclark> mongy, hey, don't do that....that is just nasty!
[19:38] <mongy> keithclark: 1 more thing, when its charging it gets to 0.01 left to charge and sticks there, battery charging light on and ubuntu saying 0.01 left..
[19:38] <euc> Hi. My sound isn't working. I tried using ubuntu-bug but I didn't see anything useful. I haven't added any peripherals or made any changes except installing php-pear since the sound was known to be working.
[19:38] <DJredstar> hey! how come my USB drives dont work anymore? i plug them in and they register with
[19:38] <DJredstar> lsusb, but nothing happens
[19:38] <keithclark> mongy, Ok, let me do some more research here....
[19:39] <speedmastero> i set power obtion on always and after a few minutes my screen goes black when i watch a movie
[19:39] <mongy> speedmastero: yeah, you need a program like caffeine
[19:39] <speedmastero> mongy i run vlc
[19:39] <keithclark> mongy, I had a Toshiba Laptop that did the very same thing.  I bought a new battery and the thing just won't quit.  (personal experience only)
[19:40] <mongy> speedmastero: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/how-do-you-use-caffeine-the-app-not-the-stimulant/
[19:40] <DJredstar> mongy: my usb drives dont show up or mount. I run lsusb and they show up there
[19:40] <mongy> speedmastero: its for inhibiting power saving
[19:41] <speedmastero> mongy how to turn that shit off
[19:41] <ikonia> speedmastero: tone down the language please.
[19:41] <Guest21166> what about ntfs partitions of your drive( if any ), in my case either ntfs nor usb drives are mounted automatically
[19:41] <pangolin> speedmastero: disable the screensaver
[19:41] <mongy> DJredstar: all I can suggest is look at system settings, removable devices..
[19:41] <speedmastero> sorry
[19:41] <DJredstar> ok thanks
[19:41] <johngalt> Where Can I find a list of packages contained on the ubuntu desktop install cd?  also can universe be downloaded as cd images similar to getting a "complete" debian repo as a cd set?
[19:42] <speedmastero> i will try to disable screensaver will come back if its not working
[19:42] <mongy> speedmastero: use caffeine
[19:42] <bastidrazor> speedmastero: click on the top right icon in the top bar. go to system settings > screen > disable all those options in there. also look at Power in system settings
[19:42] <johngalt> ...I'm installing a system that rarely has net access
[19:43] <xruud> I did "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". But how do I now start the gui?
[19:43] <bastidrazor> xruud: at the login screen select a different session
[19:43] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[19:44] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose
[19:44] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[19:44] <atruno> would someone show me a screenshot on how to do port range forwarding in gufw ?
[19:44] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose Man mount
[19:44] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose xxx
[19:44] <xruud> bastidrazor: I'm not sure what you mean. Ubuntu on this machine starts up without a gui, but I installed it. Just don;t know what the command is...
[19:44] <atruno> from the same lan ip
[19:44] <zykotick9> johngalt, that does help
[19:44] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose man mount
[19:44] <bastidrazor> xruud: startx
[19:45] <Shirakawasuna> so, xbmc eventually eats up all of my RAM and starts hitting swap. After this, my computer seems to prefer swap (everything's slow, hits the HD, etc). Is there a way to refresh this outside of restarting?
[19:45] <CharminTheMoose> johngalt, I thought mount didn't support auto mounting of devices?
[19:45] <xruud> it says: startx: command not found
[19:45] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose, it doesn't
[19:45] <mongy> xruud: is gdm or lightdm running
[19:45] <ikonia> Shirakawasuna: sounds like a memory leak
[19:45] <Shirakawasuna> ikonia: yeah
[19:45] <darkorical> I used to use Tranmission as a ubuntu server web controlled Bit torrent client. my server crashed and IM not rebuilding is there any other bit torrent clients that may work better ?
[19:45] <xruud> mongy: I'd need to check. How to?
[19:45] <Shirakawasuna> ikonia: I don't know much about them, though. Is there a way to deal with them outside of rebooting?
[19:46] <mongy> xruud: sudo service lightdm start
[19:46] <ikonia> Shirakawasuna: not really as if it's leaking ram, the memory is marked as in use until it's cleared (reboot)
[19:46] <xruud> mongy: no, those services are not on the machine
[19:46] <Shirakawasuna> darn
[19:46] <Shirakawasuna> stupid xbmc
[19:46] <mongy> Shirakawasuna: I saw some command to free memory and swap on commandlinefu once.  have a search there
[19:47] <CharminTheMoose> zykotick9, fair enough. Just I was asking for an app that does do automounting/detecting of usb drives regardless of whether I'm running Gnome or not
[19:47] <doodlenox> should a partition resize take an hour?
[19:47] <ShawnRisk> I am getting a 404 Not Found Error when I try to access a folder from my server on the web.  I am using Ubuntu 11.04 any ideas?
[19:47] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose - didn't realize uou wanted to automount them, was more thinking plug them in then mount from terminal
[19:47] <mongy> xruud: you need lightdm (if using 11.10) to runn a desktop
[19:47] <xruud> mongy: I installed ubuntu minimal. I want th gui temporarily
[19:47] <CharminTheMoose> No worries johngalt :)
[19:48] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose, i knew what you meant - i don't know of anything outside gnome that does that.  Good luck.
[19:48] <CharminTheMoose> Cheers zykotick9 :)
[19:48] <xruud> mongy: I tried sudo apt-get install lightdm. Which failed, now googling for the correct way
[19:49] <QuikNik> hey guys, anybody know if Audacity on Ubuntu can be used to record what's being played through the speakers? aka? record what you're hearing
[19:50] <mongy> QuikNik: probably.  I have used plain sound recorder with pavucontrol
[19:50] <r3x> http://nodefree.net/
[19:50] <r3x> :-)
[19:50] <ikonia> r3x: why post that ?
[19:51] <r3x> because.
[19:51] <r3x> :-)
[19:51] <r3x> why do you think?
[19:51] <keithclark> r3x, don't
[19:52] <ikonia> r3x: ok, so this channel is for ubuntu support, so keep the silly things out please.
[19:52] <Icehawk78> Is there a guide on roughly how quickly the package managers update once application developers submit new versions of the code?
[19:53] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose udev and pmount look like they could wook
[19:53] <johngalt> *work
[19:54] <StepNjump> ikonia, ok it works as you might have known. Its just that I had to realize I had to chmod/chown -R on all the files and types d and then run sudo find . -type f -exec chmod -R 644 {} \; Works fine now.
[19:54] <sebastian__> So I'm trying to install Unbuntu using the windows installer thingy (wubi). Near the end it fails saying "An error occurred: Permission denied". In the log the error seems to be "ERROR  TaskList: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'F:\\wubildr'". Any ideas?
[19:55] <ikonia> StepNjump: you did great on your own
[19:55] <schime> Hello, I see that many people including me is not very happy with unity. I liked the gnome 2 much better but unfortunately it does give some complications with some programs if you use 11.10 (as i would like to keep). Gnome 3 is a bit of the same with the touchpad feeling. Is there any of you who is using KDE? How is that? Does it have good selection of system settings? Is it easy to customize? Thank you
[19:55] <johngalt> CharminTheMoose - found this: http://www.monperrus.net/martin/automounting+usb+flash+drives+on+linux+with+udev+and+pmount
[19:55] <sebastian__> I'm running it as administrator and everything. I have no F drive.
[19:55] <hearnoseeno> if anyone is familiar w/ mediatomb and ubuntu server i'd really appreciate the help......just installed ubuntu on a headless box
[19:55] <StepNjump> ikonia, this is fun. I love linux. Though I realize that I'm not as quick to learn as I used to when I first started in DOS back in the 80's! Getting old lol
[19:56] <hearnoseeno> got ssh running through local wifi router
[19:56] <StepNjump> Slowly fading out Win7 ikonia. I've been wanting to phase out MSFT for decades!
[19:56] <xruud> mongy: I just can't run apt-add-repository, needed to install lightdm
[19:56] <StepNjump> ok have a nice day and thanks again ikonia. Enjoy your weekend
[19:57] <xruud> mongy: fixing that
[19:57] <hearnoseeno> have mediatomb interface working.....however I encrypted the home directory which is where i've saved all my media......I do not have permission to access the media on it for the ps3 to stream
[19:57] <hearnoseeno> any ideas as to what the best config should be for permissions?
[19:57] <shaneo_> can someone help me with wine it suddenly just stopped loading and windows exe's though it worked just fine yesterday i have uninstalled and reinstalled and still no luck
[19:58] <shaneo_> i cant even configure wine and winetricks also wont load
[19:58] <shaneo_> also /usr/bin/wine seems to be missing
[19:59] <euc> Where would be the best place to ask a sound question?
[20:00] <yeats> shaneo_: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep wine'?
[20:00] <shaneo_> 1 sec
[20:00] <shaneo_> ii  gnome-wine-icon-theme                          5.5.1-1                                 red variation of the GNOME-Colors icon theme
[20:00] <shaneo_> ii  playonlinux                                    4.0.14                                  This program is a front-end for wine.
[20:00] <shaneo_> ii  shiki-wine-theme                               4.6-1ubuntu2                            red variation of the Shiki-Colors theme
[20:00] <shaneo_> ii  wine                                           1.2.3-0ubuntu1                          Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta package)
[20:00] <shaneo_> rc  wine1.2                                        1.2.3-0ubuntu1                          Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)
[20:00] <FloodBot1> shaneo_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <jazzzzz> hello
[20:01] <jazzzzz> can somebody tell me what is the problem in this compilation?
[20:01] <jazzzzz> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-103891
[20:01] <jazzzzz> a permission problem? but why ? i whtite sudo
[20:01] <shaneo_> yeats http://paste.ubuntu.com/744632/
[20:02] <yeats> shaneo_: what about the output of 'which wine'?
[20:03] <bastidrazor> jazzzzz: the ; make .. needs ; sudo make ; sudo make install
[20:03] <jazzzzz> ohhhh
[20:03] <jazzzzz> thanks a lot!!!
[20:03] <jazzzzz> too easy!!!
[20:03] <jazzzzz> nobody find that
[20:03] <shaneo_> yeats i dont understand what your asking
[20:03] <jazzzzz> thank youuuu
[20:03] <voolcal> quit
[20:04] <bastidrazor> jazzzzz: checkinstall is much friendlier than make install
[20:04] <bastidrazor> !checkinstall | jazzzzz
[20:04] <yeats> shaneo_: in a terminal, type 'which wine' and pastebin the output
[20:05] <euc> Where should I ask about sound in Ubuntu?
[20:05] <shaneo_> yeats http://paste.ubuntu.com/744639/
[20:05] <_spt_> euc : Just ask your question
[20:06] <yeats> shaneo_: okay - so it does exist
[20:06] <jazzzzz> and my be you will have another aswer?
[20:06] <euc> _spt_: I figured since nobody answered (to two postings) it was the wrong channel :-P My sound isn't working. I tried using ubuntu-bug but I didn't see anything useful. I haven't added any peripherals or made any changes except installing php-pear since the sound was known to be working.
[20:06] <jazzzzz> i try to compil alsa
[20:06] <yeats> shaneo_: what happens when you try to run a wine program?
[20:06] <shaneo_> nothing
[20:06] <jazzzzz> i must put an option to tell the directory of the headers
[20:07] <r3x> ikonia: ok
[20:07] <r3x> sorry
[20:07] <r3x> :-)
[20:07] <jazzzzz> is it the good way to do that?
[20:07] <jazzzzz> sudo ./configure --with-cards=emu10k1,hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes --with-build=/usr/src; sudo make ; sudo make install
[20:07] <r3x> i really couldn't help it
[20:07] <jazzzzz> the otion is --with-built?
[20:07] <pepee> shaneo_, /usr/bin/wine explorer
[20:08] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[20:08] <shaneo_> pepee no such file or directory
[20:08]  * yeats installs wine (was going to eventually anyway ;-) )
[20:09] <shaneo_> idk what happened everything was fine today than poof no more wine
[20:09] <pepee> shaneo_, /usr/bin/wine ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/explorer.exe
[20:09] <shaneo_> pepee same message
[20:09] <yeats> shaneo_: can you pastebin the exact message?
[20:09] <shaneo_> ok
[20:10] <pepee> reinstall wine...
[20:10]  * yeats wonders which file isn't being found
[20:10] <xruud> mongy: it seems I accidentally interupted xubuntu installation
[20:10] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744646/
[20:10] <shaneo_> i did reinstall already
[20:10] <pepee> yeats, ^
[20:10] <yeats> pepee: thanks
[20:10] <shaneo_> purged all files and configs rebooted and reinstalled
[20:11] <compi> How can I fix a black screen during start up? - Ubuntu 11.04
[20:11] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Commander1024
[20:12] <yeats> shaneo_: 'sudo apt-get purge wine*' (the * will remove all packages whose names start with 'wine')
[20:12] <urlin2u> compi, supposed to be for you the nomodeset
[20:12] <pikaciu> bye
[20:12] <pepee> shaneo_, dpkg -l | grep wine
[20:12] <shaneo_> pepee after install ?
[20:12] <euc> My sound is not working.
[20:12] <shaneo_> *i mean purge
[20:13] <pepee> now
[20:13] <cybermolly10> hey everybody. I'm new to ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my linsys AE1000 wireless network adapter to work. I've tried following the directions for downloading the driver, but I can't get the driver to install
[20:13] <yeats> pepee: he had done that before, FYI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744632/
[20:14] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744652/
[20:14] <pepee> ah
[20:14] <pepee> purge and reinstall
[20:14] <reisio> cybermolly10: is it usb?pci?
[20:14] <compi> urlin2u, My ubuntu used to work fine but since I added a NTFS HDD it started playing up with the black screen issue.
[20:14] <cybermolly10> usb
[20:14] <shaneo_> ok
[20:15] <shaneo_> sudo apt-get install wine ?
[20:15] <yeats> shaneo_: yes
[20:15] <shaneo_> just cheking
[20:15] <yeats> shaneo_: ;-)
[20:15] <urlin2u> compi, you probably changed the readu=ing of the HD's i n the bios.
[20:15] <euc> Ok giving up on getting an answer to the sound question :-P
[20:15] <urlin2u> reading*
[20:15] <shaneo_> ok its a running ill let you know the results
[20:16] <reisio> cybermolly10: does lsusb see it?
[20:16]  * shaneo_ wishes internet speeds were above 125kb/s
[20:16] <cybermolly10> yes, it can see it, but it doesn't show up on the network list
[20:16] <cybermolly10> but in the terminal window, it could see it and knew it's name and everything
[20:17] <worrow> how do I share a wired connection wirelessly?
[20:17] <shaneo_> pepee ok reinstalled anything i should do to test it
[20:17] <compi> urlin2u, During ubuntu start It goes into recovery mode, when I fix the grub it starts fine, but after shut down it goes back into recovery mode.
[20:17] <urlin2u> compi, check the order the HD's are read in the bios unless you have more info that changes this.
[20:17] <shaneo_> typed wine in terminal and got /usr/bin/wine no such file or directory again
[20:17] <pepee> yeats, ^
[20:18] <urlin2u> compi, how ar you fixing grub?
[20:18] <pepee> shaneo_, output of apt-get
[20:18] <StepNjump> ikonia, I think I made a mistake!
[20:19] <compi> urlin2u, ubuntu start from HDD into a screen with 4 options. one is kernel recovery. I choose this and then choose GRUB from the menu.
[20:19] <heoa> how can I get white noise from /dev/null?
[20:19] <heoa> cat /dev/null?
[20:19] <yeats> shaneo_: you could try the command pepee suggested: '/usr/bin/wine ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/explorer.exe'
[20:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: so that was a yes on lsusb
[20:19] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744660/
[20:19] <cybermolly10> I don't know what that means, but maybe
[20:19] <shaneo_> yeats i tried still no luck same error
[20:20] <cybermolly10> oh, yes, it does connect through usb
[20:20] <compi> urlin2u, I have a ATA HDD with ubuntu on and added a SATA NTFS formated HDD.
[20:20] <cybermolly10> if there's a wireless adapter that
[20:20] <reisio> cybermolly10: no if you run the command 'lsusb', does it list the device by name
[20:20] <cybermolly10> oh, one sec
[20:20] <yeats> shaneo_: please do 'sudo updatedb && locate wine' and pastebin the output
[20:20] <urlin2u> compi, every reply you had made has more info that should have been in the first. For example just a black screen then oh I have a new HD then oh I get the recovery, can you like guve the whole story
[20:20] <StepNjump> ikonia, I went to gparted, umounted a partition and then resized the partition sdc1. Then I didn't apply the changes. Then I just X'd out of gparted. Now my partitions are not automatically remounting. Do you think I might have messed up something?
[20:21] <pepee> Setting up wine (1.2.3-0ubuntu1) ...  <- ?
[20:21] <ikonia> StepNjump: possible
[20:21] <StepNjump> ikonia oh gosh! please not!
[20:21] <StepNjump> ikonia, should I just reboot?
[20:21] <cybermolly10> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 13b1:002F Linsys AE1000 v1 802.1n [Ralink TR2870]
[20:21] <ikonia> StepNjump: no idea
[20:22] <StepNjump> ikonia, I didn't apply changes though!
[20:22] <yeats> pepee: good catch
[20:22] <ikonia> StepNjump: re-open gparted, see what the disk looks like
[20:22] <cybermolly10> if there's a wireless adapter that is really easy to install on linux, I would be willing to buy it
[20:22] <shaneo_> um pepee how do i copy this much lol
[20:23] <shaneo_> soooo many lines
[20:23] <mongy> cybermolly10: I have one of these. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technologies-802-11N-150Mbps-Wireless-Compatible/dp/B0035FVL4G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317666395&sr=8-2  plugs in and works
[20:23] <pepee> shaneo_, remove wine1.2
[20:23] <shaneo_> ok
[20:24] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744663/
[20:24] <pepee> yeats, ^
[20:24] <cybermolly10> mongy: I'm in America (I might have accidentally signed into the wrong ubuntu page) and I can't find that product on the US amazon page, is it available here?
[20:24] <shaneo_> i dont think thats the full output cause terminal cut it off
[20:24] <yeats> shaneo_: okay - no biggie
[20:24] <reisio> cybermolly10: pretty sure you can get this one working, though
[20:25] <reisio> cybermolly10: what does 'sudo ifconfig wlan0' up say?
[20:25] <StepNjump> ikonia, yes I thought doing that but I'm afraid
[20:25] <compi> urlin2u, I am running ubuntu studio 11.04. It has served me well for over 6 months. Then I added a SATA NTFS HDD. I messed around with storage device manager to try and get the new drive mounted. I now have my file system hard drive showing mounted twice in places. I ended up using NTFS configuration tool to get the NTFS drive mounted. The SATA now works fine. The NTFS drive does not have a operating system on it.
[20:25] <ikonia> StepNjump: no need to be afraid
[20:25] <StepNjump> ikonia that it would make it worse.. Should I fdisk -l
[20:25] <shaneo_> pepee win2 1.2 not installed
[20:25] <ikonia> StepNjump: why would that make it worse ?
[20:25] <pepee> shaneo_, ls -l /usr/bin/wine
[20:26] <pepee> shaneo_, do you have an antivirus software or womething like that?
[20:26] <StepNjump> ikonia, I don't know but it shouldn't have done anything at all since I hadn't press Apply changes too!
[20:26] <compi> urlin2u, After shut down the ubuntu recovery screen comes into view: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-recovery.jpg
[20:26] <shaneo_> nope
[20:26] <mongy> cybermolly10: hmm, try http://www.amazon.com/150Mbps-WIFI-WIRELESS-ADAPTER-802-11/dp/B0058XSZGU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1321820729&sr=8-6
[20:26] <cybermolly10> reisio: link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:22:43:64:de:73
[20:26] <ikonia> StepNjump: so open gparted and look at how it is now
[20:26] <ikonia> StepNjump: I don't know why you think opening gparted will do damage
[20:26]  * StepNjump sweating
[20:26] <compi> urlin2u, I then choose grub from this menu: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-root.jpg
[20:26] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744667/ i believe the error is user is root
[20:27] <shaneo_> pepee and no to the firewall
[20:27] <compi> urlin2u, this enables me to start up in ubuntu and all works fine , untill I sut down, then I get a black screen at the next start...
[20:27] <reisio> cybermolly10: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com
[20:27] <mongy> cybermolly10: it says "Operating systems: WIN2000/XP/VISTA/WIN7/LINUX/WINCE"  as does mine, so I can say its safe to assume it will work fine.
[20:27] <yeats> shaneo_: no - owner should be root
[20:27] <cybermolly10> reisio: do you want me to type more, it goes on for a while
[20:27] <shaneo_> oh ok hmm
[20:27] <StepNjump> ikonia in fdisk -l I see my sdb1
[20:28] <cybermolly10> reisio: am I actually supposed to type the yahoo part?
[20:28] <pepee> shaneo_, run wine
[20:28] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes
[20:28] <StepNjump> ikonia, in fact, EVERYTHING got umounted at once!
[20:28] <ikonia> StepNjump: why did you open fdisk when I told you to re-open gparted
[20:28] <shaneo_> pepee no such file or directory
[20:29] <cybermolly10> reisio: unknown host www.yahoo.com
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: I'm not interested any more, I see no point in advising you if you ignore it after being told 2 times what to do and doing something different
[20:29] <pepee> shaneo_, you have a strange problem...
[20:29] <StepNjump> ikonia, well because I know fdisk -l doesn't write anything to the disk, just reads
[20:29] <shaneo_> pepee it appears to be so
[20:29] <yeats> shaneo_: what is the literal command you ran?
[20:29] <StepNjump> Ok sorry, I will do as you say ikonia hold on please sorry
[20:29] <shaneo_> wine
[20:29] <pepee> really sesrious problem
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: neither does gparted as I've told you 2 times - good luck sorting your issue out
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: I'm not interested any more
[20:29] <yeats> shaneo_: please do 'echo $PATH'
[20:29] <reisio> cybermolly10: ah, here we are: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701471
[20:30] <StepNjump> ok ikonia sorry
[20:30] <shaneo_> yeats http://paste.ubuntu.com/744671/
[20:31] <pepee> /usr/bin is there
[20:31] <yeats> yep
[20:31] <StepNjump> sorry ikonia, I'm new. I won't do it again if you will ever forgive me. Just a fyi for you: partition seems to be intact. Thanks again :(
[20:31] <reisio> cybermolly10: actually forget that for a moment and run this: lsmod | grep 2800
[20:31] <StepNjump> I'll now reboot
[20:32] <cybermolly10> reisio: I tuped that in, and a bunch of stuff came up, no idea what it means
[20:32] <pepee> shaneo_, output of 'ps axuf', please
[20:32] <mongy> cybermolly10: just so you know, that usb wifi adapter has the rtl8188 chip which is the same as mine..
[20:33] <pepee> shaneo_, and /usr/bin/wine
[20:33] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, heh
[20:33] <reisio> cybermolly10: try this one instead: lsmod | grep -i rt2800usb
[20:33] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744675/
[20:34] <compi>  My ubuntu used to work fine but since I added a NTFS HDD it started playing up with the black screen issue.  I am running ubuntu studio 11.04. It has served me well for over 6 months. Then I added a SATA NTFS HDD. I messed around with storage device manager to try and get the new drive mounted. I now have my file system hard drive showing mounted twice in places. I ended up using NTFS configuration tool to get the NTFS drive mounted. The SATA now works fine
[20:34] <compi> . The NTFS drive does not have a operating system on it.  After shut down the ubuntu recovery screen comes into view: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-recovery.jpg.  I then choose grub from this menu: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-root.jpg. This enables me to start up in ubuntu and all works fine , until I shut down, then I get a black screen at the next start. How do I fix this?
[20:34] <cybermolly10> reisio: didn't do anything
[20:34] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay now this: sudo modprobe rt2800usb
[20:34] <yeats> shaneo_: similar issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846286
[20:34] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744679/
[20:34] <reisio> cybermolly10: and then run the previous command again
[20:35] <pierre_> ikonia, nothing broken! I had no backup yet! :)
[20:35] <cybermolly10> reisio: which one do you mean?
[20:35] <bunkka> Hey all, I am wondering if anyone has experience with using ffmpeg encode-handheld-5.6 on a mac?
[20:35] <ikonia> pierre_: what ?
[20:35] <yeats> shaneo_: maybe this?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852101
[20:35] <shaneo_> thanks yeats ill check it out gonna run out for a bit
[20:35] <reisio> cybermolly10: run 'sudo modprobe rt2800usb', then 'lsmod | grep -i rt2800usb'
[20:36]  * StepNjump2 pierre_ is StepNjump
[20:36] <yeats> shaneo_: sure ;-)  good luck
[20:36] <cybermolly10> reisio: bunch of stuff, don't know what it means
[20:36] <reisio> cybermolly10: for the second one?
[20:36] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, yes?
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: k
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: now 'sudo ifconfig wlan0' and then 'ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com'
[20:37] <cybermolly10> reisio: btw, I already followed directions very similar to the link you sent me, the problem is when I try "make && sudo make install" I get a couple of errors
[20:37] <pepee> yeats, lol, very strange bug
[20:37] <shaneo_> thanks again yeats and peppe
[20:37] <yeats> pepee: yes!
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: yeah but I told you to ignore that for now :p
[20:38] <yeats> shaneo_: happy to help
[20:38] <cybermolly10> reisio: unknown host again
[20:39] <cybermolly10> reisio: and I was just letting you know, I think my kernels aren't up to date or installed or somehting, I really got in over my head when I installed this
[20:39] <reisio> cybermolly10: possibly, we're going to check that next
[20:39] <reisio> cybermolly10: uname -r
[20:40] <Kiwii> Hi, If my vserver is always in runlevel 6, something is wrong, isn't it?
[20:40] <cybermolly10> when you say "uname" you mean cybermolly10 right?
[20:40] <Resistance> cybermolly10:  no, in terminal, uname -r
[20:40] <Resistance> cybermolly10:  its a command
[20:40] <reisio> cybermolly10: no :)
[20:40] <kmod> Kiwii: pretty sure run level 6 is reboot
[20:40] <reisio> cybermolly10: run the command 'uname -r', tell me what it says
[20:40] <yeats> shaneo_: if you're still around, I would try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-i386'
[20:41] <cybermolly10> reisio: 3.0.0-12-generic
[20:43] <reisio> cybermolly10: echo 'rt2800usb' >> /etc/modules
[20:43] <reisio> cybermolly10: then reboot
[20:43] <Kiwii> kmod: yeah, It works fine, except it will not start any services on system start on it's own, so I checked and the runlevel command says "6 6" wich is kind of strange
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> reisio: that will need runing after: sudo -i
[20:44] <cybermolly10> reisio: permission denied
[20:44]  * reisio sighs
[20:44] <reisio> ActionParsnip: why tell me?
[20:44] <reisio> cybermolly10: prefix with sudo
[20:44] <Icy_mist566> Hello, thanks to the person who help me last time, but i have another question, I have a partition that is set up to hold things so i can transfer files  between the two operating systems im running, It is a ntfs formatted partition, how can i set it up to automatically mount on startup
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: echo "rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[20:45] <reisio> ActionParsnip: dear god in heaven, why are you telling me that
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: users cannot write to /etc/modules   it is owned by root:root
[20:45] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo gedit /etc/modules, add rt2800usb, save & exit
[20:45] <cybermolly10> reisio: still denied
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: gksudo for gedit
[20:45] <reisio> ActionParsnip: do you realize that it's cybermolly10 that has the problem?
[20:46] <reisio> I mean I know you don't, but I wish you would
[20:46] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> reisio: just pointing out the right way to do things :)
[20:46] <reisio> ActionParsnip: please, please stop talking to me
[20:46] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, the terminal closed, now what?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: run:  echo "rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[20:46] <reisio> cybermolly10: a text editor should've opened
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: it will add the line to the file for you
[20:46] <mongy> lol
[20:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: a text editor did not open, also, should I do the thing ActionParsnip suggested
[20:47] <kmod> Kiwii: try telinit 2?
[20:47] <reisio> cybermolly10: sure
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: the command reisio gave won't work as the command will run as your user, so you will get access denied
[20:48] <Kiwii> kmod: okay, now it is in runlevel 2, but will it stay there upon reboot?
[20:48] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes, all the stuff you already knew
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: and sudo does not traverse the >> so prepending with sudo (as you would expect) won't work either
[20:48] <kmod> I don't really remember much about run levels
[20:48] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: yeah, it didn't work, it says run is not a command
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: you don't add the 'run:' bit, that's just my instruction
[20:49] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: lol, sorry, I'm very new to this
[20:49] <kmod> afk.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: you'll learn as you use the OS
[20:50] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: it says rt2800usb
[20:51] <RidDrib> Hello
[20:51] <bgodole> just learned that today is UCADay, and wanted to say
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: that's fine, it will echo to the terminal too, you can check the file has what is needed with:  cat /etc/modules
[20:52] <bgodole> Thank you! Ubuntu team, contributors and supporters
[20:53] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: lp rt2800usb
[20:53]  * reisio headdesks
[20:53] <gajbooks> I have an everex NC 1502, the CD drive has died so I am trying to boot from USB, but it says "Operating system not found".
[20:53] <reisio> cybermolly10: are they separated by a space or a newline?
[20:53] <cybermolly10> reisio: are you still with me, or should i just buy a new adapter?
[20:53] <reisio> you don't need a new adapter
[20:53] <cybermolly10> new line
[20:54] <reisio> okay
[20:54] <reisio> try rebooting
[20:54] <reisio> and see if it works
[20:54] <gajbooks> I used Unetbootin to create the flash drive.
[20:54] <Bill9929> #chris
[20:54] <Bill9929> oops
[20:55] <rangga> hALO
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: then it's added :)
[20:55] <rangga> naa'
[20:55] <rangga> kaa
[20:55] <noxy_> hey i have no sound since i went from xp to ubuntu - i have a creative labs sound audigy card and it seems to be showing up in the sound settings - any ideas
[20:55] <rangga> a
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <FloodBot1> rangga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <cybermolly10> reisio: rebooted, still don't see anything in the wireless connections
[20:56] <Nisk> How edit the Start Menu in Gnome 3 Classic?
[20:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[20:56] <gajbooks> Any ideas on how to help me?
[20:56] <kmod> and now I need help.
[20:57] <kmod> When I update the kernel, it can't find the wl module for broadcom cards
[20:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: linux-firmware is already the newest verision, 0 ugraded, etc
[20:57] <reisio> gajbooks: with what?
[20:57] <kmod> So I got the source to ocmpile, but when I try to compile it on the new kernel, I get the following:
[20:57] <gajbooks> reisio: Look up.
[20:57] <kmod> http://pastebin.com/Vb704Fkj
[20:57] <reisio> gajbooks: pass
[20:59] <gajbooks> I created it on a Mac if that makes an difference.
[20:59] <guntbert> kmod: why on earth are you trying to compile a new kernel?
[20:59] <kmod> New module, not kernel
[21:00] <noxy_> i cannot seem to access the gnome alsa mixer, everytime i click on it, it doesnt appear
[21:00] <kmod> guntbert: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[21:00] <kmod> Trying to compile that driver
[21:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo ifconfig -a | egrep '^[a-z]+0'
[21:01] <MrS1lentcz> back :)
[21:01] <Icy_mist566> ok, so i modified my fstab, but when i start up it says that its not present or not ready
[21:01] <gajbooks> Would there be any way to boot a USB Ubuntu from the windows command line?
[21:02] <reisio> Icy_mist566: says what now?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[21:02] <reisio> gajbooks: to what end
[21:02] <cybermolly10> reisio: ethO link encar: ethernet HWaddr 00:24:8c:ea:f9:43
[21:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: that's it?
[21:02] <cybermolly10> reisio: wlan0 link encap:ethernet HWaddr 00:22:43:64:de:73
[21:02] <guntbert> kmod: did you read the README?
[21:02] <gajbooks> reisio: To in the end, install Ubuntu on the HD.
[21:02] <kmod> guntbert: yes
[21:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: ah :)
[21:03] <cybermolly10> reisio: sorry, i can only type gobbledygook so fast
[21:03] <reisio> gajbooks: you can't put the install image onto a USB?
[21:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: 's'okay :)
[21:03] <guntbert> kmod: they say:"Some distros (Ubuntu and Fedora at the least) already have a version of this driver in their repositories precompiled, tested and ready to go."
[21:03] <gajbooks> reisio: I have the installer on the U
[21:04] <gajbooks> sb drive
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> i cant install ubuntu/kubuntu sucessfully, but i found tutorial for mac and created new "msdos" partition and kubuntu was installed sucessfully, but after start pc, black screen are blinking...
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> aaaa
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> noxy_: try alsamixer    in terminal
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: which GPU do you use?
[21:04] <gajbooks> I used Unetbootin but the computer won't recognize it.
[21:04] <reisio> gajbooks: ah
[21:04] <reisio> gajbooks: what version of Ubuntu?
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: nvidia
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: gt520
[21:05] <kmod> guntbert: on the original install. jockey-gtk gives me the proprietary driver, but not on the updated kernel
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:05] <reisio> cybermolly10: and sudo ifconfig | grep UP ?
[21:05] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: No, let me try it.
[21:05] <shane__oo> yeats and pepee found the fix to that wine error in the bug report it was a bug in the libs
[21:05] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: ok
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: you currently do not know if the ISO is complete and consistent
[21:05] <shane__oo> the fox was sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-i386
[21:05] <kmod> guntbert: I came upon this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1390979
[21:05] <noxy_> action parsnip that worked.. but not sure what to do from here
[21:05] <shane__oo> *fix
[21:05] <cybermolly10> reisio: do I type the "and"?
[21:05] <yeats> shane__oo: good
[21:05] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: If you're trying to dual boot with Ubuntu and OSX (and not Windows) then you don't want to be using an msdos partition table, you want to be using pure GPT. What guide are you following?
[21:05] <kmod> but I can't even get past `make'
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> noxy_: press ESC to exit and use M to un/mute, cursors to select channel and increase/decrease
[21:06] <reisio> cybermolly10: no
[21:06] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: no... i try install kubuntu on empty hdd
[21:06] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: OK, what guide are you following?
[21:07] <ubuntu-noob> Greetings, i am running the most recent stable release of Ubuntu (oclelot) on a Alienware M14x , i have been running in to some difficulty with certain aplicatons because they can not "inilalize openGL" or "GLX" does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: grep: ?: no such file or directory
[21:07] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo ifconfig | grep UP
[21:07] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: but i had maybe broken partition table... i mean "efi" nedeed msdos partition table, so i installed kubuntu sucessfully  at last
[21:07] <guntbert> kmod: that thread is with regard to much older kernels - not sure if it still is applicable
[21:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: sorry about that, can't tell code from comments
[21:08] <cybermolly10> reisio: it says "UP Broadcast multicast ntu:1500 Netric:1
[21:08] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: where can i set this option? to grub.cfg ?
[21:08] <noxy_> actionparsnip is there a usual issue with sound cards that i should be aware of
[21:08] <cybermolly10> reisio: Up loopback running ntu:16336 Netric:1
[21:08] <kmod> guntbert: but I don't see why `make' wont work
[21:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: up broadcast multicast mtu:1500 Metric:1
[21:09] <ubuntu-noob> Greetings all!
[21:09] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: The image is fine.
[21:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, so if you just run 'sudo ifconfig' after wlan0 does it say UP?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: in /etc/default/grub    then run:  sudo update-grub     you can hold shift at boot and add it for that boot temporarily until you get the proprietary driver
[21:09] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: hi
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: cool,and did you use unetbootin to transfer the ISO (and not extract it)
[21:10] <ubuntu-noob> reisio: do i just ask my question or do i need to wait for something specal, im new to this
[21:10] <noxy_> i am trying this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[21:10] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: you have to wait for me to say "french fries"
[21:10] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: Extract?
[21:10] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: french fries
[21:10] <ubuntu-noob> well i am running the most recent stable release of Ubuntu (oclelot) on a Alienware M14x , i have been running in to some difficulty with certain aplicatons because they can not "inilalize openGL" or "GLX" does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: yes, did you manually extract the ISO (you aren't supposed to)?
[21:10] <gajbooks> No.
[21:11] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: do you have a nvidia graphics card?
[21:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, the last section starts with wlan0, and the second line of that section starts with "UP"
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: which OS are you making the bootable USB in?
[21:12] <gajbooks> Mac OS X 10.7.
[21:12] <ubuntu-noob> yes, and i have been fighting with it for a while.....
[21:12] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Please answer my question.
[21:12] <guntbert> kmod: you gave a very short  output, what was the command you entered, and where did you enter it?
[21:12] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: did you do anything like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:12] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, that is promising, I'd say
[21:12] <cybermolly10> reisio: really?
[21:13] <reisio> not as promising as you pinging things, but yeah
[21:13] <kmod> guntbert: I don't feel like rebooting all over again, so I'll just try it from the current kernel and paste the results
[21:13] <Icy_mist566> I am trying to have my ntfs partition automatically mounted on startup
[21:13] <ubuntu-noob> reisio: i have been using that exact driver but programs such as mixxx and minecraft still dont work, each time the error comes back to GLX or open GL,
[21:14] <kish> i got a problem with unity. i want the old gnome back. is there an easy way to get it back?
[21:14] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i didnt understand your question...
[21:14] <guntbert> kmod: hint for the future: install dkms, it *should* recompile kernel modules after every kernel upgrade automatically
[21:14] <ubuntu-noob> kish: what version r u on?
[21:14] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restarting
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/Vb704Fkj
[21:15] <kish> 11.10 ubuntu-noob
[21:15] <yarrow> anyone know of an easy way to add the medibuntu repository?  I'm trying the script on the wiki page, but it just stalls.  Must be an easier way than this.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: You said you were following a guide. What guide are you following?
[21:15] <kish> unity is not working well. it cuts the screen in half
[21:15] <reisio> cybermolly10: now you're in... GNOME? 11.10?
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: oh, that might work
[21:15] <cybermolly10> reisio: yes
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: I thought I had that already, but it appears it was an outdated version
[21:15] <reisio> yarrow: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ?
[21:16] <reisio> cybermolly10: and you have a wireless router that's enabled?
[21:16] <ubuntu-noob> kish: when you log in there is a menu on the log in screen, you can select the desktop environment you want from this menu,
[21:16] <cybermolly10> reisio: yes, that's how I'm talking to you :-)
[21:16] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i wrote, i installed kubuntu and after start pc, only black screen are blinking - grub menu doesnt start
[21:16] <kmod> aaand, it still gives the same error after dkms got updated
[21:16] <reisio> cybermolly10: you multi-computer haver
[21:17] <cybermolly10> reisio: thank god, since I cant get ubuntu to do anything
[21:17] <robin0800> ! notunity | kish
[21:18] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay do you know where the wireless configurator is?
[21:18] <Kmus> Server Identify KillerJim
[21:18] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz:  "13:04 < MrS1lentcz> i cant install ubuntu/kubuntu sucessfully, but i found tutorial for mac and created new "msdos" partition and kubuntu was installed sucessfully" What tutorial were you reffering to?
[21:18] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, no
[21:18] <cybermolly10> reisio: I know where the router is
[21:18] <yarrow> reisio:  no, no medibuntu on that page.  Used to be a simple matter of just entering another repos in sources.list, but the medibuntu page lists a script that uses wget to construct a new list.  Why be simple when you can be complicated.
[21:18] <reisio> cybermolly10: as long as it's on and you know the login info, the router is all set
[21:18] <reisio> yarrow: weeee
[21:19] <cybermolly10> reisio: taht is one thing I do know
[21:19] <guntbert> kmod: sorry, I'm not really good with troublesome kernel modules, but to me it appears that you did something weird to your system (2.6.32 and 3.0.9 ??)
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: how about a network-looking-ish icon at top right?
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: little bars maybe
[21:19] <cybermolly10> reisio: it is an empty slice of pie
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you say so :)
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: try to connect to your router
[21:20] <kmod> guntbert: I said I'm trying to compile it for the new kernel, as I'm on the old one right now to use the internet, I was just testing the make command to see if it'd still fail
[21:20] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, how?
[21:20] <kmod> I didn't feel like rebooting all over again without at least a test first
[21:20] <reisio> cybermolly10: should be intuitive, isn't there 'connect to wireless...' or 'add' or something?
[21:20] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[21:20] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: specific devices, or random ones?
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: the ones taht aren't greyed out say :connect to hidden wireless netowrk", "create new wireless network", "VPN connections
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: and then enable netowrking and enable wireless are both checked
[21:21] <guntbert> kmod: yes, but if I remember correctly 2.6.32 was on maveric and 3.0 is on oneiric - two steps apart
[21:21] <reisio> cybermolly10: create sounds good
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: I tried that before and it didn't work, for the network name, do I use the same name as the connection I see on my apple?
[21:21] <kmod> guntbert: 2.6.32 is ubuntu 10.04
[21:22] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you want, that part should be irrelevant to it actually working
[21:22] <noxy_> any reason why update manager aint opening when i click it??
[21:22] <kmod> and 3.0 is a... kernel I compiled
[21:22] <reisio> cybermolly10: may as well use the same one
[21:22] <illbequick> Hi guys! How can I know the package name that "Additional Drivers" app is trying to install?
[21:22] <gizmo> noxy: are you an administor?
[21:22] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, and then I don't know what to choose for "Wireless security", I know the password, I just don't know what kind of password it is
[21:22] <kmod> guntbert: note though, I used the old config for the 2.6 kernel, I didn't change any of the wireless module settings
[21:23] <reisio> cybermolly10: did you setup the router yourself?
[21:23] <guntbert> kmod: ah..., this channle doesn't support self compiled kernels
[21:23] <noxy_> gizmo - i am
[21:23] <guntbert> *channel
[21:23] <kmod> guntbert: also I had this problem before using backtracks or whatever it was called, to get new kernel modules for old kernels or something of the sort
[21:23] <cybermolly10> reisio: no, probably the comcast guy
[21:23] <kmod> guntbert: I had the same problem with backports
[21:23] <reisio> cybermolly10: k, what're the choices?
[21:23] <illbequick> It's trying to install "Broadcom STA Wireless Driver" - do you guys know how I can install it via apt-get?
[21:23] <gajbooks> Is there any way I could boot my flash drive from a windows commad line?
[21:24] <BlueHighwind> holy monkey shit there's a lot of people on this chatroom
[21:24] <BlueHighwind> congrats for having so many people
[21:24] <GuilhermeAug> Chat Portuguese?
[21:24]  * BlueHighwind kills himself
[21:24] <FloodBot1> BlueHighwind: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <cybermolly10> wep 40/1238 big key (hex or ascii), wep 128-bit passphrase, or wpa & wpa2 Personal
[21:24] <psusi> gajbooks, booting it means you aren't running windows, so no...
[21:24] <gizmo> noxy: try running update-manager in the terminal
[21:24] <kmod> guntbert: can I query you?
[21:25] <mongy> cybermolly10: is it 8 chars or more?
[21:25] <guntbert> kmod: sorry, I can not really help, I was trying to make things a little clearer
[21:25] <cybermolly10> mongy: it is exactly 8 characters
[21:25] <mongy> cybermolly10: trial and error, try wep then try wpa. :)
[21:25] <reisio> cybermolly10: first one, ascii
[21:25] <kmod> The problem I'm having technically only has to do with make and that driver
[21:25] <kmod> Oh well, thanks.
[21:26] <mongy> cybermolly10: I'll take a stab and say go wpa
[21:26] <cybermolly10> reisio: it says connection established, but then if I open Mozilla it says server not found
[21:27] <cybermolly10> should I try again and pick a different choice?
[21:27] <kish> thanks guys
[21:27] <kish> robin0800 and ubuntu-noob
[21:27] <reisio> cybermolly10: you could, make sure if you open the browser menu 'browse offline' isn't checked
[21:27] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: ehm... how and where can i run a command "upgrade-grub" ? as chroot in mounted system partition ?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: can you ping 8.8.8.8 when you are connected?
[21:28] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you mean "update-grub"?  and are you booting from the livecd?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: in the chrrot, in the terminal. I suggest you use the edit method and hold shift at boot, saves messing with chroots
[21:28] <cybermolly10> reisio: work offline was not checked
[21:28] <MrS1lentcz> psusi:  yeah
[21:28] <cybermolly10> actionparsnip: do I just type "ping 8.8.8.8" into a terminal window? I have no idea what i'm doing
[21:28] <robin0800> cybermolly10: can you not see what the apple is using?
[21:29] <cybermolly10> I can see it
[21:29] <illbequick> Hi guys! How can I know the package name that "Additional Drivers" app is trying to install? It's trying to install "Broadcom STA Wireless Driver" - do you guys know how I can install it via apt-get?
[21:29] <cybermolly10> hmmn, now it says the connection I just made is disconnected, not sure why
[21:29] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: and does it get an effect, when on start black screen is blinking? i mean hold shift...
[21:30] <gizmo> illbequick: you want " sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common"
[21:30] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, become root ( sudo -s ), mount your partition somewhere ( like /mnt ) and then run: for f in dev sys proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f ; done, and then chroot /mnt, and finally run update-grub
[21:31] <illbequick> gizmo: thank you!
[21:31] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: yeah
[21:31] <cybermolly10> maybe I should mention that when I'm connected I can see the lines in that network icon, but they're all greyed out
[21:31] <robin0800> illbequick: why do you need to?
[21:31] <gajbooks> Is there any way of installing Ubuntu from Windows recovery mode?
[21:32] <saquib-> h
[21:32] <gizmo> gajbooks: can you use a live cd?
[21:32] <gajbooks> gizmo: No, the CD drive in this crappy old thing died.
[21:33] <mongy> cybermolly10: greyed out?  can you click it and view connection info?
[21:33] <delle> hi to all! i could use some help for file sharing issues. Could someone help me?
[21:33] <illbequick> robin0800: i just installed ubuntu using 'alternative' without things that i don't need, but after install wifi didn't work. but when I try live cd, it works
[21:33] <psusi> gajbooks, use a usb flash stick?
[21:33] <cybermolly10> mongy: what info do you mean?
[21:33] <mongy> cybermolly10: any.  does it show any
[21:33] <gajbooks> psusi: Been trying, but get "Operating system not found".
[21:34] <cybermolly10> mongy: it says wireless netowrk, and then the network I just created, and then disconnect
[21:34] <illbequick> robin0800: at the same time, in live cd, "additional drivers" popped up and said that there was this drive available for my card
[21:34] <psusi> gajbooks, then you didn't build the stick correctly... what did you use?  unetbootin?
[21:34] <mongy> cybermolly10: and near the bottom, connection info
[21:34] <gajbooks> psusi: Yes.
[21:34] <gizmo> gajbooks: how did you use the normall install for the flash-drive?
[21:34] <cybermolly10> mongy: it says a lot, do you want it all?
[21:35] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o bind /proc/mounts /mnt/proc mount: Not a directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount --bind /proc/mounts /mnt/proc mount: Not a directory "
[21:35] <gajbooks> gizmo: Huh?
[21:35] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: how can i mount the proc, please?
[21:35] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, no, you need to use sudo -s to stay root first, then do the rest
[21:35] <mongy> cybermolly10: the fact it says stuff is all I wanted to know
[21:35] <mongy> cybermolly10: did you ping 8.8.8.8?
[21:36] <robin0800> illbequick: aptitude search on driver name might help
[21:36] <gizmo> gajbooks: you mentioned getting an error using a flash drive, how were you using it?
[21:36] <cybermolly10> mongy: do you mean just type "ping 8.8.8.8" into a terminal window?
[21:36] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: if 8.8.8.8 pings, its a DNS issue and is easy to fix
[21:36] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: yes, thats the command
[21:36] <mongy> cybermolly10: ping -c 4 8.8.8.8
[21:36] <cybermolly10> yes, but how do I ping, remember, I know nothing
[21:36] <cire_> What is the ubuntu way of saving synaptics settings? (manually done by synclient )
[21:36] <gajbooks> gizmo: I got an error from the BIOS: "Operating system not found".
[21:37] <illbequick> robin0800: unfortunately, in live cd, "apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common" isn't showing anything
[21:37] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: you dont understand me.... mount "said" : 'mount: Not a directory"
[21:37] <cybermolly10> network is unreachable
[21:37] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: the command you typed in the quotes is what you need
[21:37] <delle> oh, well. thx anyway i'll be trying again tomorrow.
[21:37] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[21:37] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: dang
[21:37] <gizmo> gajbooks: is this when you try booting normally, or booting from a usb?
[21:37] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you need to not run it with sudo, and do you have your disk mounted in /mnt?
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: sure
[21:38] <mongy> ifconfig then to see if she has an ip at least
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: /mnt/proc is exists
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> *exists
[21:38] <illbequick> can anyone run "apt-get cache show broadcom-sta-common" please? having little difficulty here :/
[21:38] <gajbooks> gizmo: I took the HD out to see if that made a differnece, but that is what I got. I removed the HD because I kept having my ruined 7 install trying to boot.
[21:38] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, then you should be running "for f in sys dev proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f"
[21:39] <cybermolly10> mongy: when I was looking at the connection information there was an IP address
[21:39] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, err, forgot the ; done part that time...
[21:39] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, so it should be "for f in sys dev proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f ; done"
[21:40] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: "mount: mount point /mnt/proc/mounts does not exist"
[21:40] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, the word mounts should not be anywhere in the command
[21:41] <robin0800> illbequick: aptitude search says broadcom-sta-common exists
[21:41] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: i mounted sucessfully mounts and swaps by this method in the past...
[21:41] <gizmo> gajbooks: when your computer boots, try pushing f8 to get to a boot menu. (if that does not work, your bios probably shows you what to push). Also, do you know if the usb drive is bootable?
[21:42] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you need to run the command exactly as I said... the word "mounts" isn't in it...
[21:42] <TimothyA> I have an issue with ubuntu 11.04: every time I boot up the machine it will just display a black screen, but I can see my cursor
[21:42] <gajbooks> gizmo: Do you mean the setup? No, I do not know if the USB is bootable.
[21:42] <MrS1lentcz> psusi:  i see...
[21:43] <gizmo> gajbooks: What have you done to the usb so far?
[21:43] <gajbooks> Just used Unetbootin on it.
[21:43] <aniketdharamshi> hi
[21:44] <aniketdharamshi> i just installed ubuntu using wubi on windows 7
[21:44] <reisio> aniketdharamshi: hi
[21:44] <aniketdharamshi> and now when i boot it and select ubuntu it just restarts and wont boot
[21:45] <MrS1lentcz> ActionPa1snip: "/etc/default/grub: 36: nouveau.blacklist=1: not found"
[21:45] <reisio> aniketdharamshi: installing not using wubi is a much saner approach...
[21:45] <cybermolly10> reisio: is it time to buy a new adapter yet?
[21:45] <aniketdharamshi> Right, so i should just download it, make a usb and then install it from there?
[21:46] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: your colleague wrote me a wrong option :(
[21:47] <reisio> cybermolly10: haven't been following
[21:47] <reisio> where are you now?
[21:47] <gizmo> gajbooks: then the usb should be bootable. My guess is your bios setup does not look for usb drives. You should be able to fix that by going into the bios menu. If it doesn't have a usb option, it is probably an old bios, in which case check the manufacturer's website for an update.
[21:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: I pinged 8.8.8.8 and it said network unreachable
[21:47] <gajbooks> gizmo: It has one, and it is set to first boot priority.
[21:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: aside from that, little has changed
[21:48] <abelabel> hi, on a system using 11.10 network speed to the internet (browsing, downloading) is great but on the internal network when communicating with my NAS or XP system the network speed is stable but slow, just around 100KB/second; any hints what I should try to look into?
[21:48] <reisio> cybermolly10: thought you were going to look at your Apple config
[21:49] <gizmo> gajbooks: do you have access to another computer you could use to install to the hd?
[21:49] <MrS1lentcz> oh, my wrong
[21:49] <lan3y> hi im having problems with my hybridgraphics setup, how can i check which gpu is currently in use?
[21:49] <cybermolly10> reisio: what exactly should I be looking at/for?
[21:49] <gajbooks> gizmo: Would it be possible to use a VM?
[21:49] <reisio> cybermolly10: the encryption type
[21:49] <reisio> cybermolly10: wep, wpa, etc.
[21:50] <nn52> używa ktoś gnome3 , z klasycznym wyglądem?
[21:50] <nn52> klasyk czyli wygląd gnome2
[21:50] <robin0800> cybermolly10: if you can log into the router you can usually see the security settings and password
[21:50] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, I guess it's WPA2 Personal
[21:50] <l_r> where are the repositories for ubuntu 9.10?
[21:51] <iceroot> !eol | l_r
[21:51] <abelabel> (all wired network by the way)
[21:51] <l_r> that's not a great answer
[21:51] <gajbooks> Ok, so does Ubuntu install platform specific stuff or does it install all generic?
[21:51] <lan3y> l_r, could be a hint they are gone
[21:51] <gizmo> gajbooks: Maybe, you would need to see if it can access the host's harddrive.
[21:52] <reisio> gajbooks: it detects hardware during install
[21:52] <reisio> gajbooks: as much as it can
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: it is the best answer
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: because the last link contains the repos and shows how to upgrade
[21:52] <gajbooks> gizmo: If it would install for different hrdware, then how would that work right?
[21:52] <niklasfi> is there somebody here, who has a working config for mpd and pulseaudio?
[21:52] <l_r> i need to install packages in an old release, i dont want to upgrade
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: again, read the link
[21:52] <cybermolly10> reisio: I changed it to WPA2 personal, disconnected and reconnected, still have greyed out bars on network icon and can't connect on mozilla
[21:53] <iceroot> l_r: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-security main restricted universe multiverse
[21:53] <rUff3r> is there a way to get the close on the left side in gnome shell?
[21:54] <lan3y> rUff3r, some of the themes have the buttons set on the left
[21:54] <gizmo> gajbooks: the problem with using a VM on the host hd, is that the host OS might lock you out of direct access.
[21:54] <rUff3r> lan3y: thanks i look into it
[21:54] <jazz> hey, could someone please help me?
[21:54] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: i dont know how i have to set the "nouveau.blacklist=1" flag by http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1758080.html :/
[21:54] <reisio> cybermolly10: I don't know, we could try the other thing you were trying earlier you said you had some problem with
[21:54] <lan3y> jazz, dont ask to ask, go ahead
[21:55] <reisio> cybermolly10: relaying commands over IRC is kind of maddening at this duration, though
[21:55] <jazz> oh, ok sorry :P I've been trying to change my boot order and the timer, but I can't seem to be able to do it
[21:55] <cybermolly10> reisio: does that mean I should buy the adapter?
[21:55] <jazz> could someone just walk me through it?
[21:55] <jazz> like getting to the file i need to edit?
[21:56] <rUff3r> oh and why is there no shutdown option in gnome shell?
[21:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: I'm sure you can get this one to work, but if you'd rather just replace it with one you think will work out of the box :) up to you
[21:56] <reisio> if you've got an Apple computer I assume you can afford a new adapter :p
[21:56] <cybermolly10> reisio, I don't think I have any other choice, I don't know anyone who uses ubuntu, so I don't have anyone to help
[21:56] <fellayaboy> how can i remote desktop from outside my local network??
[21:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you need a suggestion ask ##hardware
[21:56] <lan3y> rUff3r, hold the alt key when on the menu to change hibernate to power off, i think
[21:57] <gajbooks> gizmo: I can directly mount USB drives in the VM, so I should be good. (I am going to use a HD to USB adapter)
[21:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: what do you think about this one? http://www.amazon.com/150Mbps-WIFI-WIRELESS-ADAPTER-802-11/dp/B0058XSZGU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321820829&sr=1-1
[21:57] <iceroot> fellayaboy: forward the needed ports in your router (more infos are found in the manual of the router)
[21:57] <reisio> cybermolly10: I wouldn't mind ssh'ing into your box and trying a couple things, but probably not a great idea if you have any personal data on there
[21:57] <gizmo> gajbooks: that should work
[21:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: I don
[21:57] <cybermolly10> treisio: I don't have personal dat
[21:57] <rUff3r> lan3y:  thanks again
[21:57] <gajbooks> Is there a way to make Ubuntu install for a generic system and not bother to detect hardware?
[21:57] <reisio> cybermolly10: looks tiny, I wonder what the actual range is
[21:57] <jazz> could someone walk me through editing my boot order?
[21:57] <fellayaboy> iceroot..i think i did but how would i configure everyhthing else..what programs etc
[21:58] <iceroot> fellayaboy: nothing more needed
[21:58] <cybermolly10> reisio: is there a way you can ssh if I'm not connected to the internet?
[21:58] <fellayaboy> what port does it use?
[21:58] <mongy> reisio: same as an internal with patch antenna
[21:58] <reisio> cybermolly10: you can see if the install image you used has network
[21:58] <iceroot> fellayaboy: what are you using? vnc, ssh, rdesktop
[21:58] <lan3y> jazz, maybe this could help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:58] <reisio> mongy: cool
[21:58] <cybermolly10> reisio: also, would it be better if I dragged this computer over to the router and connected to the router temporarily
[21:59] <mongy> cybermolly10: as I said before, its rtl8188 same as mine.  works
[21:59] <jazz> ok, ill try it. thank you
[21:59] <reisio> mongy: what laptops don't come without wireless adapters...
[21:59] <gizmo> gajbooks: the default install is fairly generic. If there is a specific support missing you can always add it after installing.
[21:59] <reisio> cybermolly10: that'd probably work, too
[21:59] <fellayaboy> iceroot i dont know which to use... i want to control the desktop not ssh with just terminal interface..
[21:59] <gajbooks> gizmo: Ah, thanks.
[21:59] <iceroot> fellayaboy: then i guess you are using vnc
[22:00] <iceroot> fellayaboy: 5900 should be the port you need
[22:00] <fellayaboy> okay do i need to install something else
[22:00] <cybermolly10> reisio: just so we're clear, because I'm very lazy, if I drag this computer over to the router and plug it in, you think we could tackle this wireless adapter problem?
[22:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: you should check if the wireless works from the liveCD anyways, though
[22:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: yeah
[22:00] <fellayaboy> if using vnc do i have to install somethign else iceroot
[22:00] <iceroot> fellayaboy: vnc should be installed by default on ubuntu with gnome/unity
[22:00] <fellayaboy> ok iceroot
[22:00] <cybermolly10> reisio: unfortunately, I had to actually install ubuntu, I'm not just running it off a cd
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: I know, but the install images let you run a 'testing' environment, too
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: and sometimes wireless will work on these and not the installed
[22:01] <jazz> i was thinking of doing something more like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: which would indicate a simple misconfiguration or lack of software in the install, which we could find easily with some diff'ing
[22:01] <jazz> but it doesnt seem to work
[22:01] <cybermolly10> reisio: really? so how do I do that? just put the CD back in and reboot?
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: so what I'd do is boot up the install CD, select test/try/whatever instead of install
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: spend a couple minutes max seeing if the wireless works / if you can get it working
[22:02] <fellayaboy> iceroot..okay so after allowing remote desktop on host and opening port on router i should be good to go
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you can, get on IRC and we'll figure it out, if you can't, plug it into the router
[22:03] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, rebooting now, wish me luck
[22:03] <jazz> could somebody help me do this? i cant get it to work: t it doesnt seem to workt it doesnt seem to work
[22:03] <jazz> t it doesnt seem to work
[22:03] <jazz> oops
[22:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: good luck :)
[22:03] <jazz> i cant get THIS to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[22:04] <reisio> jazz: that looks to be instructions for old GRUB
[22:04] <jazz> oh
[22:04] <reisio> jazz: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:04] <jazz> well how could i do the same thing on 11.10
[22:04] <scarleo> Hi, I'm getting a strange conflict when trying to update XBMC from unstable. This is my versions and message: http://pastie.org/2894920
[22:05] <robin0800> jazz: did you run sudo update-grub after your changes?
[22:05] <scarleo> the versions match up but it tells me the already installed version is going to be installed, why?
[22:05] <jazz> ummm no i dont think so
[22:05] <ikonia> scarleo: what repo are you getting that from ?
[22:05] <jazz> i think i screwed something up early on so i reinstalled ubuntu
[22:06] <jazz> oh, and i could never even get the document up
[22:06] <scarleo> ikonia: LP-PPA-team-xbmc-unstable/natty
[22:06] <jazz> so i never even edited anything
[22:06] <ikonia> scarleo: you need to talk to the maintainers of that PPA then
[22:06] <robin0800> jazz: any changes to grub require that command afterwards
[22:06] <scarleo> ikonia: ok, thanks
[22:06] <jazz> yeah, but i never edited anything
[22:07] <jazz> i cant even get to the place to edit things
[22:07] <Icehawk78> My laptop has a (radeon) hybrid graphics switch which has been causing me several headaches. I eventually disabled the fglrx and attempted to use the VGASWITCHEROO in order to disable the radeon graphics card, which otherwise leaves the fan running at 100% nearly constantly.
[22:07] <jazz> im on 64 bit 11.10
[22:07] <reisio> jazz: so the problem ATM is... you can't boot Windows?
[22:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: same thing, I can't see it in the network list, tried creating a connection, still can't get online
[22:07] <yarrow> jazz: try this thread, lots of info on grub2 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[22:07] <Icehawk78> However, attempting to do `echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch` gives me permission errors
[22:08] <ikonia> Icehawk78: use sudo
[22:08] <jazz> noo i CAN boot windows. i just want it to remove the timer when it gives me operating systems to boot
[22:08] <vimjim> hi!
[22:08] <reisio> cybermolly10: k, hook it up to the router, see if you can get me the ip (curl tnx.nl/ip) and a user name and pass
[22:08] <MrS1lentcz> after start pc my black screen are bliking... can i set this: "# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console " for solve this problem?
[22:08] <Icehawk78> ikonia: Still doesn't work, preumably because it's only 'echo' that's being run in sudo
[22:08] <MrS1lentcz> *in grub config
[22:08] <ikonia> Icehawk78: ahhhh yes,
[22:08] <reisio> cybermolly10: /msg reisio user:pass
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: and actually you don't need to say the IP in public, either :p
[22:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: will the IP address be the same when I move it?
[22:09] <Resistance> reisio:  stop being a troll ;P
[22:09] <reisio> Resistance: yes massah
[22:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: you'll be shocked to hear this, but I don't know how to message you
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: well right now it hasn't an ip address
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: that was the command
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: /query reisio
[22:10] <cybermolly10> reisio: so how come I can see an IP address when I look at the connection information?
[22:10] <reisio> cybermolly10: can you?  I guess it could be partially working
[22:10] <reisio> cybermolly10: from what, ifconfig?
[22:10] <cybermolly10> reisio: and I still don't get how to message you, sorry, really got in over my head
[22:11] <reisio> cybermolly10: '/query reisio'
[22:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: I clicked the network icon and selected "connection information" near the bottom
[22:11] <reisio> should open up a tab near top
[22:11] <StepNjump2> I made another boo boo... gosh! I did chmod /media/* and now when I try to cd /media, I don't have access!
[22:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: are you saying I should type that into the line I'm typing into right now?
[22:11] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes
[22:11] <StepNjump2> What should I do?
[22:12] <cybermolly10> can I leave the computer where it is and see you if you can ssh, or should I still move it?
[22:12] <Icehawk78> StepNjump2: sudo cd or sudo chmod back to what it was before?
[22:12] <cybermolly10> reisio: can I leave the computer where it is and see you if you can ssh, or should I still move it?
[22:12] <xSmurf> hey all, I'm trying to use an Edirol FA66 firewire sound card in Oneiric and it doesn't seem to work
[22:12] <reisio> cybermolly10: you can, tell me the IP in a PM
[22:12] <xSmurf> or at least, it doesn't popup in pulseaudio
[22:12] <xSmurf> any clues would be helpful
[22:13] <vimjim> I have an ongoing issue. I have two usb devices on the same hub, same device.  They are multimode devices, they auto switch to the correct mode. Actual device is a nokia cs18 gprs modem.  All works well. Registers with the carrier, but after about 5-9 days, one of the devices goes offline, the other stays on.  dmesg reports "usb disconnect" or "new full speed usb devce" followed by "unable to enumerate" - these messages are the same as if i am to physically
[22:13] <vimjim> unpliug the device, but i am not.
[22:14] <vimjim> and, the lights do not come back on when this happens 5-9 days after being plugged in.
[22:14] <atamisk> does anybody know why compiz refuses to start?
[22:14] <atamisk> err emerald, not compiz
[22:15] <StepNjump2> icehawk78 I tried sudo cd. It says command not found!
[22:15] <bastidrazor> atamisk: emerald is dead.. RIP
[22:15] <xangua> !emerald | atamisk
[22:15] <xangua> atamisk: if you want to go on I have seen some guides that force to use emerald with new compiz
[22:16] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[22:16] <StepNjump2> the su password, should be same as root no?
[22:16] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: did you answer my question earlier?
[22:16] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: you want to mount any random device you connect, or only specific ones
[22:17] <CharminTheMoose> Oh sorry reisio I didn't see it. I want to mount any random device I connect, essentially
[22:17] <xSmurf> anyone? anyone? Bueller?
[22:17] <bluberella> hello. I want to prevent a specific package from being installed. I did a "apt-get remove --purge gdm-guest-session", followed by a aptitude hold gdm-guest-session. Unfortunately the packet is installed anyway. How can I prevent a package from being installed?
[22:17] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: k, check out https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev
[22:17] <reisio> xSmurf: nothing like an overused joke to make a person want to respond...
[22:17] <xSmurf> well see it worked ;)
[22:18] <fellayaboy> iceroot thanks that worked very well
[22:18] <fellayaboy> does anyone know how to get out of remote desktop view when connected??
[22:18] <atamisk> i just need a decorator that works. gtk-window-decorator refuses to initialize too
[22:18] <xSmurf> I really wished this would work, everything I can find on the net basically says "it just works"
[22:19] <reisio> xSmurf: this what
[22:20] <reisio> fellayaboy: CTRL+ALT+ENTER ?
[22:20] <gewt> roktik: stop PMing me, please.
[22:20] <fellayaboy> ctrl alt enter works?
[22:20] <xSmurf> reisio: ah you didn't read the original message huh ;p
[22:20] <xSmurf> an Edirol Fa66 firewire soundcard
[22:21] <reisio> xSmurf: hence the question
[22:21] <reisio> fellayaboy: you tell me
[22:23] <jesse__> How do I install a specific version of a program from command line?
[22:24] <ahoneybun> jesse__, use the source from the apps webpage?
[22:24] <reisio> think he means given multiple available versions in repo
[22:25] <jesse__> reisio, Indeed!
[22:25] <ActionPa1snip> jesse__: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[22:25] <|Slacker|> does anybody use thunderbird here with google accounts?
[22:25] <alessandro97> blu sky
[22:25] <ActionPa1snip> !anyone | |Slacker|
[22:25] <MVanDruff> so does anyone know a way to launch my windows install through linux
[22:26] <ActionPa1snip> MVanDruff: virtualbox can do it
[22:26] <alessandro97> \list
[22:26] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, oh...forgot about that, sorry
[22:26] <martc> hi
[22:26] <jesse__> ActionPa1snip, thanks, brain shutting down
[22:26] <reisio> MVanDruff: you want to install windows to a hard disk?
[22:26] <giulia> hello, I am trying to create an icon theme around Christmas. The only hiccups is that I have no idea on where can I find Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice... icons in Christmas' clothes. Any idea ?
[22:26] <jazz> how do i edit "GRUB-TIMEOUT" after putting "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" into terminal?
[22:27] <|Slacker|> anyway, I'm having issues with thunderbird and google apps accounts
[22:27] <jesse__> I've run into a strange problem when installing Ubuntu. Please excuse my lack of knowledge.
[22:27] <jesse__> (1) After installing Ubuntu, I am dropped to BusyBox initramfs.
[22:27] <jesse__> (2) I do not see the hard drive or partition in /dev.  I should, shouldn't I?  I think this means modules are missing.
[22:27] <jesse__> (3) I've tried reinstalling Grub using chroot, but it's not helping.
[22:27] <jesse__> (4) I think I traced the problem to having initrd.img-3.0.0-13 and vmlinuz-3.0.0-13 installed when only Linux 3.0.0-12 is installed, so it's looking for modules that aren't there.
[22:28] <FloodBot1> jesse__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <ActionPa1snip> jazz: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:28] <jazz> how do i edit "GRUB-TIMEOUT" after putting "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" into terminal?
[22:28] <jazz> oh
[22:28] <jazz> ok ill try that
[22:28] <MVanDruff> I allready have it installed on my secondary hdd
[22:28] <jesse__> Oops.
[22:28] <|Slacker|> thunderbird keeps freezing while checkingth imap folders but only with my google apps account
[22:28] <|Slacker|> any known bugs?
[22:28] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: which version of thunderbird?
[22:28] <jazz> do i put that into a new terminal or the same one?
[22:28] <jesse__> How much of my five points got through?
[22:28] <|Slacker|> the latest I guess...lemme check
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> jazz: either, it doesn't matter
[22:29] <xangua> |Slacker| if it's the first time you are going to sync, you'll have to wait
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> jesse__: all
[22:29] <jesse__> ActionPa1snip, thanks
[22:29] <jazz> wow thank you
[22:29] <|Slacker|> it's thunderbird 7.0.1
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:30] <abelabel>  I'm still trying to figure out why I have such low network speeds on the local network. The speed I get is suspiciously close to the upload speed I have in my internet connection; also the IP of the linux computer is not in the same range as the other devices on the network. Could it be that I'm accidentally sending all data through my provider?
[22:30] <stepnjump> reisio, I made a mistake... I chmod /media/. instead of /media/UUID/. and now I can't even cd into the dir. Any ideas?
[22:30] <GTRsdk> What is the package name for the program called "Disk Utility"?
[22:30] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, should I do this after thunderbird freezes?
[22:30] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: any time really, its informational, it doesn't fix anything
[22:30] <|Slacker|> oneiric
[22:30] <jesse__> (6) I don't know how to do this, since I can't find linux 3.0.0-13 in the repositories nor do I know how to install earlier versions of the other programs.
[22:31] <reisio> stepnjump: ask the channel (not me directly) what /media/'s permissions are supposed to be
[22:31] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, thunderbird just turned gray now
[22:31] <|Slacker|> probably will crash
[22:31] <stepnjump> ok reisio
[22:31] <reisio> stepnjump: sup
[22:31] <ActionPa1snip> GTRsdk: gnome-disk-utility
[22:32] <stepnjump> may anyone tell me what the /media/'s permissions are supposed to be?
[22:32] <jesse__> If anybody can help, problem re-iterated for easy reading: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:33] <reisio> actually I do have an Ubuntu install on this usb stick, 1min I'll check its permissions
[22:33] <reisio> su
[22:33] <reisio> su!
[22:33] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744794/
[22:33] <reisio> silly IRC client
[22:34] <moo-> ubuntu is the only operating system that dont have screensaver
[22:34] <atamisk> !?
[22:34] <stepnjump> Thanks a lot actionpa1snip
[22:34] <moo-> windows, mac and even 1980 os have screensaver, but not ubuntu
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: the screensaver is optional
[22:34] <atamisk> emerald works from fusion-icon, but not under a command-line init?
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: and it's a GNOME decision
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: DOS doesn't have a screensaver
[22:34] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip, what happened to ActionParsnip?
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: ?
[22:34] <moo-> ActionPa1snip, but amiga does
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: all distros using GNOME 3 will either come without a screensaver, or taint their install with non-default-GNOME stuff
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: so?
[22:35] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip yes?
[22:35] <moo-> reisio, but windows and  mac has screensavers, why doesnt ubuntu? is it a not as good?
[22:35] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html   shows how to install one. Why not just turn the monitor off, it's a power saver
[22:35] <reisio> moo-: I just said...
[22:35] <JoshR1> Hello.
[22:35] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: is a screensaver a gauge of OS quality to you?
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: if you want a screensaver, install xscreensaver
[22:36] <xangua> moo-: on webupd8 oneiric tweak post says how to install a screensaver
[22:36] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: Ubuntu doesn't have one because GNOME doesn't have one
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: and most people are arguably happy with just blanking
[22:36] <licnep> how do i upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? The upgrade button disappeared, and running 'update-manager -d' or 'do-release-upgrade' don't work
[22:36] <prettynoob> hi people, i need some help with a dedicated server running Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[22:36] <ActionPa1snip> !upgrade | licnep
[22:36] <ActionPa1snip> licnep: -d is for (d)evelopment releases only
[22:36] <reisio> prettynoob: help granted!
[22:37] <licnep> oh
[22:37] <prettynoob> reisio: thank you gentleman
[22:37] <JoshR1> I am wondering if anyone can give me advice on a good VPN server for Ubuntu.
[22:37] <jesse__> When anybody has a moment, I think I've almost solved my problem: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:37] <reisio> stepnjump: get your perms yet?
[22:37] <cYmen> What is the appropriate way to make a luks encrypted partition my new home partition?
[22:37] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/02/09/how-to-set-up-a-vpn-server-on-ubuntu/
[22:37] <cYmen> editing fstab and crypttab? or is there a tool or setting to use?
[22:37] <prettynoob> reisio: i have a main ip address, and 3 secondary, how can i use these secondary ips to create shell acounts?
[22:37] <prettynoob> accounts*
[22:38] <stepnjump> reisio, no! lol I have a finger in a cast lol
[22:38] <reisio> stepnjump: sudo chmod 755 /media
[22:38] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: you asked where I was, so I replied. I thought you wanted me. so your reply of "yes?" is confusing.
[22:38] <reisio> stepnjump: how'd you manage that?
[22:38] <reisio> prettynoob: good question
[22:38] <robin0800> reisio: actually gnome does have a screensaver but it is broken
[22:38] <JoshR1> Great now I am locking up after trying to use that link.
[22:39] <jesse__> Actually, why does my Live CD have linux 3.0.0-13 and yet I can only find 3.0.0-12 in the repositories?
[22:39] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip OIC! no I was saying... what did you do with our ActionPa R snip in a joking way lol
[22:39] <prettynoob> reisio: i think so hehe, please if you know some web tutorial or something
[22:39] <reisio> robin0800: it has blank, yeah
[22:39] <prettynoob> im really lost with this matter
[22:39] <reisio> prettynoob: you want to offer free shells upon request?
[22:39] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: ahhh, i see :D
[22:39] <JoshR1> For some reason my mouse won't click anything now.
[22:40] <stepnjump> Don't ask reisio lol too embarassing.. Ok let me try 755 but last time I tried it was a no go...
[22:40] <reisio> JoshR1: keyboard still working?
[22:40] <prettynoob> reisio: not free, i would like to create them myself
[22:40] <JoshR1> Yes
[22:40] <reisio> stepnjump: hahahah
[22:40] <jesse__> Would copying my /lib/modules folder from my Live CD to my desktop work, or would that mess things up?
[22:40] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: try restarting your WM, may help
[22:40] <JoshR1> I am typing lol
[22:40] <prettynoob> but i want to how to do it, reisio
[22:40] <reisio> prettynoob: why do you want to use the other IPs?
[22:40] <jesse__> There needs to be a bot that puts people in a queue or something...
[22:40] <fellayaboy> i have mupen64 in /usr/local...i want to create a link in /usr/local/bin  i made a link and renamed it mupen64 but it says it cant find a *.conf file..how could i fix this im new to adding programs manually
[22:40] <alessandro97> hi!
[22:40] <reisio> jesse__: forgot your problem
[22:40] <JoshR1> Odly enough now it works.
[22:40] <alessandro97> list!
[22:41] <stepnjump> reisio.. It worked thanks! My error was that I had added -R to chmod prev.
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: run it from command line and it will give clues
[22:41] <reisio> fellayaboy: mupen is in the repos, why'd you do it manually
[22:41] <reisio> alessandro97: 1, 2, 3, 4
[22:41] <fellayaboy> oh ididnt know
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> !find muppen
[22:41] <reisio> alessandro97: 5
[22:41] <jesse__> reisio: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:41] <prettynoob> reisio: because i cant like ¨install¨ two apache web servers in one ip address
[22:41] <robin0800> jesse__: its in proposed I think you can enable that in the software sources
[22:41] <fellayaboy> all i did was chmod +x reisio
[22:41] <jesse__> Proposed... thank you...
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> isn't muppen64 dead?
[22:41] <reisio> fellayaboy: pardon?
[22:41] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: I can take it from there, I think.
[22:41] <prettynoob> reisio: i would like to listen in port 80 in each ip, or something like that
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: muppen64 is 7 YEARS dead
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[22:42] <fellayaboy> whats a better emu?
[22:43] <stepnjump> reisio :)
[22:43] <reisio> jesse__: sudo fdisk -l list your devices?
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: anything is better than dead
[22:43] <reisio> stepnjump: mounting things again?
[22:43] <renosis> I have some partitioning questions, can anyone help me?
[22:43] <reisio> stepnjump: careful not to break another finger
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: mupen64plus
[22:43] <fellayaboy> is that in the repos?
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: it's in the repos, all you had to do was search for mupen
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: found this but it's nearly 1 year without update http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: always check the repos first
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> !find mupen
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: use as little of a string as you can that you think will match
[22:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info mupen64plus
[22:44] <stepnjump> reisio rofl! no I think I learned my lesson this time! -Rrrrrrr!
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: it shows up there when I've booted from my Live CD, but when I'm in BusyBox after my computer fails to start, the disk is nowhere to be found!
[22:44] <reisio> jesse__: 11.10?
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: using ls /dev/sd*
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: Yes
[22:45] <trihedron> missing drivers ?
[22:45] <fellayaboy>  i didnt see mupen their before but now i found it
[22:45] <reisio> fellayaboy: a likely story!
[22:45] <fellayaboy> i typed in nintendo 65 emulator but never got anything
[22:45] <fellayaboy> 64*
[22:45] <reisio> that's a little specific
[22:46] <reisio> and you probably would've had to tell the search to search by description, not name
[22:46] <fellayaboy> thanks...so is that the best emu for ubuntu
[22:46] <reisio> depends on the frontend
[22:46] <reisio> fellayaboy: I think it might be the only viable Linux n64 emulator ATM
[22:46] <reisio> don't quote me on that
[22:46] <fellayaboy> ok
[22:46] <prettynoob> reisio: :(
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: ?
[22:47] <prettynoob> reisio: u were talking to me :(
[22:47] <prettynoob> im waiting for you
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: waiting for me to do what?
[22:47] <prettynoob> reisio: to help me, if its not a trouble
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: ...with what?
[22:48] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:48] <fellayaboy> but either way its a good question...sometimes i use programs that are not in the repos... if i wanted to add a link to usr/local/bin how can i make it work if the files depenedent to a file in the directory of its source
[22:48] <prettynoob> reisio: manage more than one ip address
[22:48] <reisio> fellayaboy: symlinking is usually a decent quick fix
[22:48] <prettynoob> reisio: to create like shell accounts, but i would like to manage them
[22:48] <fellayaboy> how would i do that
[22:48] <reisio> fellayaboy: ln -s path/to/reallocation path/to/fake
[22:48] <fellayaboy> i see
[22:49] <reisio> fellayaboy: or put another way: ln -s path/where/really/is path/where/things/looking/for/it
[22:49] <renosis> I have ubuntu installed on an ntfs partition (installed on a windows 7 install), I haven't booted into windows 7 in months. I need to dedicate more space to ubuntu. I have only one NTFS partition, containing both windows and ubuntu. While trying to figure out how to get more space, I booted into windows and found a file in the C:\ubuntu folder that is the same size as the space reserved for ubuntu. So I assume this is where ubuntu l
[22:49] <renosis> ives. How do I devote more space to this file?
[22:49] <fellayaboy> i see reisio
[22:49] <KWhat4> Does ubuntu have any themes that are in the package manager?
[22:49] <fellayaboy> ok ok ln -s /source /link
[22:50] <reisio> prettynoob: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20multiple%20interfaces
[22:50] <ActionPa1snip> !find theme
[22:50] <reisio> prettynoob: for making new users you'd want useradd or adduser
[22:50] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: sure, search software centre for: theme
[22:50] <reisio> you know what's really missing is a guide on how to use random software
[22:51] <reisio> people don't realize you can just type 'theme' in a box :p
[22:51] <ActionPa1snip> reisio: works well. as a human you can filter the fluff easily
[22:51] <reisio> indeed
[22:51] <gmcdonald> rephrase my Q: anyone use SSDs with Ubuntu?
[22:51] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: many do
[22:51] <reisio> gmcdonald: yes, some ones do
[22:52] <K350> is there anyone who's familar with Perl-Tk?
[22:52] <gmcdonald> ok so expanding that back to my original question
[22:52] <fellayaboy> now what if i wanted to add a bin to application>whereever
[22:52] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:53] <KWhat4> reisio: the problem is not that i dont know to type theme inot the serach box, the probem is i have 2000 results that are not themes
[22:53] <fellayaboy> ok nevermind all i have to do is rightclick properties and edit menus and i can add a bin to a path
[22:53] <moo-> gmcdonald, ask in #kernel or #linux, perhaps LVM or softraid, idk
[22:53] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: what is your priority for your storage?
[22:53] <reisio> don't ask in #kernel
[22:54] <reisio> KWhat4: for example?
[22:54] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you want speed then use raid0, if you want reliability then use raid1
[22:54] <KWhat4> peguin themed mine sweaper
[22:54] <gmcdonald> its going to be a build machine, so I was hoping to use the SSDs for the read/write of the builds
[22:54] <ermo> gmcdonald: sorry to barge in, but would you care to pastebin the convo history? :)
[22:54] <reisio> fellayaboy: that's how... Windows users do it... :/
[22:55] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: gnomelook.org has nice themes
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: there is no history really, just started
[22:55]  * ermo has experience with both mdadmin raid-0, raid-1 and raid-10 w/lvm on top
[22:55] <renosis> Does anyone know a name for the way my Ubuntu is partitioned, so I can search for a tutorial so I can devote more space to it? I have one ntfs partition running windows and ubuntu.
[22:55] <KWhat4> reisio: none of the themes listed in the chat show up,
[22:55] <abelabel> would it be far-fetched to imagine that all the traffic that is supposed to happen within my LAN is accidentally routed through a server at my provider?
[22:55] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/more-gnome-3-themes-hope-adwance-gtk3.html
[22:55] <KWhat4> ActionPa1snip: i want something in the package manager so my gf will stop skrewing up her setup
[22:55] <ermo> gmcdonald: the first I saw was "moo-> gmcdonald, ask in #kernel or #linux,(...)" :)
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: ack ..
[22:55] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: ^
[22:55] <Severian> On Ubuntu 10.04, is there a way to completely rebuild database of installed packages?  I had a corrupt /var/lib/dpkg/status.  I deleted it, which was probably a mistake.  Now, synaptic wants to install a bunch of packages thare are already there.
[22:56] <ermo> gmcdonald: roger
[22:56] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: the question doesn't tell us much
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: heh, k
[22:56] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you make a single disk from the SSDs you will be able to maximise the space too
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: theme packages probably follow a naming convention
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: foo-theme-bar, or the like
[22:56] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: its a build machine, so was wanting to utilise the SSDs and ram cache maybe or tmp for read/writes etc
[22:56] <ermo> renosis: search for gparted -- you can resize partitions with that tool.
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: they should be all grouped together
[22:56] <prettynoob> reisio: yes, i already setup the interfaces
[22:57] <reisio> KWhat4: you could get at them quicker from a terminal: apt-cache search theme | grep -i gnome, etc.
[22:57] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: already in a RAID1 setup as one VD
[22:57] <ThomasBoxley> What IRC client currently available uses GTK 3?
[22:57] <KWhat4> reisio: there is something wrong with the serach, for example if i search for theme nothing shows up related to themes, if i search for adium then the audium-theme shows up
[22:57] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: put swap, /tmp and /var on the platter based drives. Put web browser cache in tempfs
[22:58] <ermo> gmcdonald: how much ram do you have? Which kind of CPU? Have you considered using zram backed tmpfs aloing with lib/package files on mdadm raid-0 on the SSDs?
[22:58] <gmcdonald> ermo: no havent looked into that. The SSDs are 100GB each, the RAM is 32GB, CPU is dunno but big and fast :)
[22:59] <gmcdonald> its a 10k server
[22:59] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: 32GB? Sounds like a dual socket system ...
[22:59] <KWhat4> yah idk how the software center does its searching but someone may want to revisit that code
[23:00] <ermo> gmcdonald: is it up and running now? If so, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' or your 'dmesg'?
[23:00] <reisio> ThomasBoxley: probably dev builds of XChat
[23:00] <renosis> ermo, I have been in gparted, it shows one NTFS partition, both ubuntu and windows are installed on this partition, to access my windows partition from ubuntu, it is mounted in /host, and as far as I can tell, if I boot into windows, under a file called C:\ubuntu\ there is some very large file (20 gigs, just like the amount of space devoted to ubuntu)
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: maybe you're searching by description and not name
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: or vice versa
[23:00] <ermo> renosis: oh, you're running ubuntu inside the windows partition.
[23:00] <renosis> which I assume holds my ubuntu data
[23:00] <renosis> ermo, yes :]
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: again apt-cache search in a terminal is going to be faster/easier to parse
[23:01] <gmcdonald> ermo: not yet no, Im at the install stage, so wanted to know best if I can install OS on the normal SAS disks and then configure SSDs afterwards or if I should be configuring the SSDs now before I start the OS install
[23:01] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you have 32Gb RAM, a lot of it will be used for disk cache if the ram is largely unused, makes things even faster :)
[23:01] <renosis> ermo, I would like to either devote more space to that file, some how, which I can't figure out how to do, or simply find an easy way to remove windows 7 completely and run a standard linux partition
[23:01] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: right that was I was hoping, but how do I configure the SSDs to be ram cache?
[23:02] <ermo> gmcdonald: by ensuring that your swap is on the SSD drives? :)
[23:02] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: you can format them as swap, with 32Gb RAM I doubt you'll need it
[23:02] <ermo> gmcdonald: you could also consider using them in raid-10 instead of raid-1
[23:02] <KWhat4> reisio: yes, for you and i, however for someone else thats not very good at the terminal, not its not.  I am just wondering why one the software center doesnt search pacakge names
[23:03] <gmcdonald> 100GB for sawp seems excessive
[23:03] <reisio> KWhat4: install synaptic
[23:03] <reisio> KWhat4: software center is the super dumbed down version
[23:03] <ermo> gmcdonald: raid-10 stripes reads from each disk and since your seek time is awesome, there's no downside to raid-10 like there would be for spindled disks
[23:03] <KWhat4> ahhh ok thanks
[23:04] <ermo> gmcdonald: you're not getting it -- the idea is to create large, swap-backed tmpfs'es and run the builds from there
[23:04] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: you want 1xRAM for swap if you have more than 2Gb RAM. With 32Gb RAM I doubt you'll need it
[23:04] <Jordan_U> renosis: To remove Windows completely and do a normal install just burn the Ubuntu iso to a CD or put it on a USB drive and boot from that rather than installing from within Windows. You will have to back up all your data first though.
[23:04] <ermo> gmcdonald: sorry, that came out a bit harsh :)(
[23:04] <gmcdonald> no problem
[23:04] <KWhat4> reisio: awesome!! thats just what i was looking for.  Thanks!
[23:05] <ermo> gmcdonald: I'm just imagining this: tmpfs -> zram -> swap -> raid-10 SSD
[23:05] <three18ti> anyone using orchestra on ubuntu-server?  Looking for a way to reset the login, reset the cobbler login, but that doesn't seem to help.
[23:05] <inashdeen> hi, want to ask, if i install ubuntu on a usb, can i edit it, like install and remove software, add and change wallpaper, put my documents like we use to do on a pc?
[23:05] <renosis> Jordan_U, ya, was trying to see if there is some way to avoid that, I kind of had a feeling it wouldn't be that easy, thanks
[23:05] <reisio> KWhat4: :D
[23:05] <Jordan_U> inashdeen: If you do a normal install using the Ubuntu installer, *not* "USB Startup Disk Creator", yes.
[23:05] <three18ti> inashdeen, yes, you will want to make a "persistent install" unetbootin does this very nicely.
[23:06] <reisio> KWhat4: sorry if you said software center earlier, should've realized
[23:06] <gmcdonald> ermo: ok thanks, something I can configure after OS install ?
[23:06] <renosis> Jordan_U, what about, just devoting more space to ubuntu, how would I go about that?
[23:06] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: can you see any obvious issue with my suggestion, if we assume that the tmpfs is only used for building/creating chroots for builds?
[23:06] <ermo> gmcdonald: that's what I'd do -- but you'll probably have to do a bit of reading :)
[23:07] <Jordan_U> renosis: There is no guide that I'm aware of. I could probably walk you through it but it would be a lot of manual work and something could go wrong.
[23:07] <renosis> Every time I search for a solution, I end up getting info on how to resize the partition using gparted
[23:07] <gmcdonald> ermo: thats the hope, use the SSDs to speed up builds, results can be stored on the sas drives
[23:07] <renosis> Jordan_U, ok, I'll just back everything up and do it that way, thanks!
[23:07] <inashdeen> Jordan_U :thanx
[23:07] <inashdeen> three18ti: thanx
[23:08] <Jordan_U> renosis: You're welcome.
[23:08] <gmcdonald> whois ermo
[23:08] <ermo> indeed, whoami
[23:08] <gmcdonald> you can answer that :)
[23:08] <Jordan_U> inashdeen: You're welcome.
[23:08] <three18ti> inashdeen: you are welcome.
[23:08] <ermo> gmcdonald: I should probably point out that I've never actually _done_ what I'm suggesting that you do!
[23:09] <gmcdonald> ermo: no problem, the idea seems sound
[23:09] <gmcdonald> I'll look into it and come back with results
[23:09] <ermo> But intuitively, I'd expect it to be wicked fast, especially if we assume that you use zram, since you trade space for CPU cycles, making your effective SSD speed higher due to the compression
[23:10] <ermo> i.e. you write compressed RAM pages to SSD
[23:10] <gmcdonald> as long as I can install the OS on the sas disks in the meantime so I can start using the machine, then go and address the SSDs afterwards is what I was going to do
[23:10] <ermo> gmcdonald: is this one of those things where you don't get to re-install?
[23:10] <gmcdonald> zram, got it, looking ..
[23:11] <gmcdonald> ermo: I can keep going until I get it right
[23:11] <gmcdonald> its a remote machine, but I have console
[23:11] <ermo> then just start out with the install on the SAS RAID-6 and do some experiments
[23:12] <gmcdonald> so was hoping to get OS done, then ssh in to do the ssd stuff
[23:12] <renosis> Jordan_U, I do have one more question though, I have a 80 gig solid state drive where I have ubuntu installed, and a 1 TB drive for extra storage, I want this 1 TB drive to contain all the home folders, is there some way to do this?
[23:12] <gmcdonald> will do thanks all for your suggestions
[23:12] <ermo> I can definitely recommend looking at raid-10 for the two SSDs
[23:12] <ermo> gmcdonald: same storage capacity as raid1, same speed as raid0
[23:12] <ermo> (read at least)
[23:13] <gmcdonald> thats raid 10 for the SSDs you mean?
[23:13] <ermo> yeah
[23:13] <gmcdonald> ack
[23:13] <Jordan_U> renosis: Yes. By selecting the manual partitioning option during installation and making a partition on the 1 TiB drive for "/home".
[23:14] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: Yay!  I'm back in business.  So it goes like this: if you update your Live CD and then use it to install to your hard drive, it can install Grub for a version of Linux you do not have.
[23:14] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: That is why my clean install didn't work.
[23:14] <cYmen> I need to add an encrypted home partition to a ubuntu system. Where can I read how the installer sets it up to imitate that?
[23:14] <renosis> Jordan_U, ah, ok, thanks again!
[23:14] <Jordan_U> renosis: You're welcome :)
[23:14] <ermo> gmcdonald: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/RAID#RAID10.2CF2
[23:15] <reisio> jesse__: ...k, gj
[23:15] <renosis> Well, time to go do a fresh install sans windows 7, thanks everyone for your help!
[23:16] <ermo> gmcdonald: http://serverfault.com/questions/139022/explain-mds-raid10-f2 <- check the 'far' section
[23:16] <jesse__> reisio: I'm pretty sure this is a bug; where do you think I should report it?
[23:16] <reisio> jesse__: I didn't really understand your explanation, try again?
[23:16] <ermo> gmcdonald: the degraded write performance might not be an issue at all when seeks are cheap as in an SSD
[23:17] <Rei`> Anyone here used a Toshiba NB550D with Ubuntu? Any ideas what compatibility is like and what performance to expect with 1GB RAM upgrade to 2GB
[23:18] <KWhat4> So I just installed blubuntu-look,  Why isnt is showing up in the themes menu under appearance?
[23:18] <reisio> Rei`: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Toshiba/NB550D
[23:18] <reisio> Rei`: 2 > 1
[23:18] <mongy> KWhat4: you need to install gnome-tweak-tool
[23:20] <jesse__> Well, my grub.cfg was expecting Linux 3.0.0.13, but my computer only had 3.0.0.12.  I think this is because my Live USB had 3.0.0.13 installed.  This was on a clean install.
[23:20] <Rei`> reisio: Seems pretty good from that list
[23:20] <bluebomber> When I right-click on the desktop, then click on "Create Document," it says "No Templates Installed," despite me having just placed some documents in ~/Templates. Do I have to refresh some indexing service or something in order to get them to appear in the right-click menu?
[23:20] <reisio> jesse__: you saying it's a bug that it was looking for .13?
[23:20] <reisio> Rei`: yeah all the important bits
[23:20] <reisio> Rei`: wireless :D
[23:21] <jesse__> reisio: Yes.
[23:21] <Rei`> reisio: Any idea what support is like for gestures on the trackpad? It's got 2 finger scrolling etc
[23:22] <KWhat4> thanks mongy
[23:22] <JoshR1> Seems my VPN connection doesn't work.
[23:22] <Rei`> reisio: Was kinda hoping I'd get some indication of how well unity would run, battery life and support for trackpads, but it looks promising
[23:22] <reisio> Rei`: no, you'd want to look up synaptics support against the model I think
[23:22] <reisio> Rei`: should run fine, I can't speak to the trackpad
[23:23] <Rei`> I'm looking for a coding machine for the sofa :P
[23:23] <reisio> Rei`: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22nb550d%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org probably can, though
[23:23] <reisio> Rei`: yeah I could use one of those
[23:23]  * reisio eyes black friday
[23:24] <jesse__> bluebomber: I just tried adding templates and it worked instantly.
[23:24] <bluebomber> jesse__: I think it has for me in the past, too.
[23:25] <bluebomber> jesse__: Could you try adding a file into a few nested folders, e.g. ~/Templates/parent/child/file and see if they show up instantly?
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Odd... did it break as of a recent update or something?
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Sure
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Worked instantly.
[23:26] <bluebomber> Hmmmm... Not working for me.
[23:26] <reokie> Does anyone here have a problem with their fans only activating once the temp gets about 75C?
[23:26] <JoshR1> Ok I have a question, am I better off doing a VPN or a FTP server if I want to access files on my server from outside my network?
[23:26] <bluebomber> Oh, wait. I symlinked Templates to point to somewhere else. I just remembered. But the target is still valid and it was working before.
[23:26] <bluebomber> jesse__: Thanks for trying.
[23:27] <ermo> reokie: which PC?
[23:27] <jesse__> bluebomber: Maybe the program that looks for templates is off?
[23:27] <jesse__> bluebomber: I don't know if it's zeitgeist or Nautilus or what, though.
[23:28] <mongy> JoshR1: sftp
[23:28] <jesse__> bluebomber: "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"
[23:28] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: just enable ssh and portforward.
[23:28] <bluebomber> jesse__: Hmmm... I was about to do that. Would you mind testing to see if yours gives you the same issue if ~/Templates is a symbolic link?
[23:28] <bluebomber> jesse__: Be right back. Rebooting.
[23:29] <ermo> JoshR1: You can also just use ssh/scp?
[23:29] <JoshR1> Ok I think I tried setting up sftp but i need to point it to my raid setup.  I use a ssd for the OS and two 1 TB hds in Raid-0
[23:29] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: sftp ftw :)
[23:29] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: install openssh-server and you get an sftp server
[23:29] <ermo> oh, I confused sftp with ftps
[23:29] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: +1
[23:29] <JoshR1> ok
[23:31] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: with ssh you can connect with any OS.. winscp on windows and ssh/sftp on ubuntu/mac
[23:31] <reokie> ermo: Toshiba Satellite L-505
[23:31] <ermo> reokie: so not a Mac. Hm. In most PCs, the fan control is handled by the bios.
[23:32] <ermo> reokie: but I've successfully overrided the fancontrol by using lm-sensors
[23:32] <JoshR1> So use openssh-server ?
[23:32] <ermo> reokie: take a look at this: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/fancontrol
[23:32] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: yes, you can also mount sshfs in nautilus and is secure
[23:33] <sprayy> sshfs is awesome
[23:33] <sprayy> sshfs user@host:/path /localpath
[23:34] <sprayy> If you set up ssh keys on the hosts you want to sshfs mount, it works great
[23:34] <iamweirdie> can somebody help me define what this term does or means, please?
[23:34] <iamweirdie> -Duser.home="."
[23:34] <ermo> iamweirdie: in which context?
[23:35] <bluberella> Is it possible to use the autodetection for proprietary graphicsdriver on cli ( or automatically in a script)? I just wonder if I have to setup my own detection script or if I can use ubuntu scripts.
[23:35] <iamweirdie> ermo java -Xms1024m -Xmx1024m  -Duser.home="." -jar minecraft.jar
[23:35] <bastidrazor> bluberella: jockey-text may help you
[23:35] <xx> rg
[23:36] <n4dsp> is 11.10 now worthwhile to install over 11.04?
[23:36] <bluberella> bastidrazor, looks exactly what I was searching for... thank you :-)
[23:36] <ActionPa1snip> n4dsp: if natty is working for you, then I say don't fix it
[23:36] <ermo> iamweirdie: from 'man java', seach for '-D': -Dproperty=value
[23:36] <ermo>              Set a system property value.
[23:36] <n4dsp> thanks
[23:36] <bastidrazor> bluberella: you're welcome
[23:36] <ermo> iamweirdie: in your case, it looks like the system property value 'user.home' is being set to '.' which is the current directory  :)
[23:37] <iamweirdie> ermo back up, from 'man java'?
[23:37] <tensorpudding> n4dsp, if you're worried about bugs, it's pretty good
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you are not familiar with the concept of 'man' pages? Most unix/linux tools have a an associated manual page. You can read more about the 'man' system by opening a terminal and writing 'man man' :)
[23:38] <iamweirdie> ermo sorry, not a linux guy
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you quit the man page reader by writing 'q'
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you search by using '/' and writing the search term
[23:39] <iamweirdie> ok
[23:39] <ermo> iamweirdie: well, 'man man' is a good start if you're the curious sort  :D
[23:39] <iamweirdie> alright, thnx ermo
[23:39] <ermo> best of luck
[23:40] <ermo> NEXT!
[23:40]  * ermo ducks
[23:40]  * jesse__ throws fish at ermo
[23:41] <jesse__> ermo: Sorry.  Habit when people duck.
[23:41] <ermo> :D
[23:41] <jesse__> ermo: I got one: If I deleted my Templates folder, how do I get it back?
[23:42] <jesse__> Creating a Templates folder doesn't make it appear in the context menu.
[23:42] <fellayaboy> reisio
[23:42] <ermo> jesse__: hrm. Good one.
[23:42] <jesse__> ermo: Thanks!
[23:43] <jesse__> fellayaboy: resisio is gone -- vanished!
[23:44] <jesse__> fellayaboy: reisio, rather.
[23:44] <ermo> jesse__: Just for kicks, create a new user profile and see if it gets the Template folder
[23:44] <ermo> by default, I mean
[23:44] <ermo> jesse__: it might be a combination of the folder and some gconf/dconf magic
[23:45]  * ermo is just guessing at this point
[23:46] <jesse__> ermo: Can I still edit settings using gconf-editor if I install it?
[23:46] <fellayaboy> im trying to create a link ...but when i click the link i get this in terminal...it says it couldnt read the config file that the program needs
[23:46] <ermo> jesse__: ... not sure if it's using dconf or gconf, tbh.
[23:47] <ksx4system> how to make Miredo work in latest Ubuntu?
[23:47] <JoshR1> Ok so now how do I set it up?  I need to be able to access these files from outside my network.
[23:47] <reokie> ermo: It says that there aren't any pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[23:47] <reokie> Do I need to add a config file by hand?
[23:47] <fellayaboy> i put the bin file in the /usr/local/mupen64_093 and made a link in /usr/local/bin for mupen64 but when i type in or click the link it doesnt execute because it seeks a conf file...im trying to get it to run from wherever the directory is placed
[23:47] <ermo> reokie: run 'sudo sensors-detect' :)
[23:48] <ksx4system> I have it properly configured, IPv6 enabled in ufw but after sudo /etc/init.d/miredo restart Miredo's interface doesn't come up
[23:48] <fellayaboy> im just using mupen to understand this
[23:48] <ermo> jesse__: if you type 'set | grep XDG' in your terminal, do you get a template related value?
[23:48] <jesse__> fellayaboy: Can you give more information about the link?  What program is supposed to open it?  How did you create it?
[23:48] <JoshR1> Well wait, I know how in Ubuntu but I can't access my raid
[23:49] <JoshR1> It just sends me to the User Home directory.
[23:49] <jesse__> ermo: Nope
[23:49] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: create a symlink to your raid in your home.
[23:49] <ermo> jesse__: ok, in the file manager, press ctrl+h to show hidden files/folders, navigate to ~/.config
[23:49] <JoshR1> Dang mouse is stopped again.
[23:50] <ermo> open the file 'user-dirs.dirs'
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Aha!
[23:50] <ermo> jesse__: ^
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Perfect.
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: You're the bee's knees.
[23:50] <ermo> nope, but google is!
[23:50] <JoshR1> lol I can hover over things and move the mouse around but clicking does nothing.
[23:50] <ermo> jesse__: here's my cheat sheet: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/10/add-new-context-menu-items-in-ubuntu-easily-ultimate-templates-pack/
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Ssshhhhh...
[23:50] <JoshR1> Grr
[23:51] <fellayaboy> i just downloaded the program...it came in a folder...i chmod +x the bin file that runs the program and it runs find when i double click it or ./ it in terminall..however i created a link..ln -s .. in /usr/local/bin but it never works..i ./ in terminal and it says Couldn't read config file '/home/deeman//mupen64.conf': No such file or directory
[23:51] <fellayaboy>  
[23:51] <bastidrazor> too man /'s
[23:51] <jesse__> fellayaboy: What bastidrazor said
[23:51] <fellayaboy> i dont understand
[23:52] <JoshR1> Ok how do I create a symlink?
[23:52] <JoshR1> I am not very experienced with Linux.
[23:52] <jesse__> bastidrazor: Actually, that might not be it...
[23:52] <ermo> JoshR1: are you interested in learning a bit more by way of reading? :)
[23:52] <JoshR1> Sure
[23:52] <jesse__> bastidrazor: Linux is pretty good with too many /s in my experience, but I could be wrong...
[23:53] <ermo> JoshR1: http://www.funtoo.org/wiki/Category:Articles <- look at linux fundamentals
[23:53] <jesse__> fellayaboy: Okay, the program expects to run in a certain directory, and it still runs from the original directory, right?
[23:53] <fellayaboy> jesse__, yes thats right
[23:53] <GhostWolf> hi all, i believe im using 11.09 of ubuntu, does anyone know a good program i can install for ubuntu that allows me to edit pics?
[23:53] <yggdrasil> hi can somone tell me how i can get a very new kernel? i was reading an article abou a patch for kernels regarding power savings ?
[23:53] <anadon> I'm having trouble getting minecraft to run.  Ideas?  It looks as if firefox can't run java, but it is installed.
[23:53] <ohpee> I think a sym link is          ln -s [file] ./[shortcut]
[23:54] <brjannc> anadon: can you run it from the command line?
[23:54] <ohpee> are you running minecraft in browser?
[23:54] <scsi203> joshR1: you can create a sym link by using ln /path/to/file from the directory you want the link
[23:54] <scsi203> use the -s switch
[23:55] <fellayaboy> jesse__, so how can i simply make a link to /usr/local/bin ...i dont want to create an Environment path to the file
[23:55] <robro_> GhostWolf, you might try The GIMP or Pinta
[23:55] <jesse__> fellayaboy: I'm looking it up because I don't know either...
[23:55] <ermo> robro_: +1
[23:55] <reokie> ermo: still, I get the same error, it cant find the sensor module
[23:55] <scsi203> ln -s /usr/local/bin Fellayaboy
[23:56] <GhostWolf> robro ok i thought ubuntu 11.09 or whatever is the one before 11.10 already had it but i don't see it installd thanks
[23:56] <ermo> reokie: is this after installing lm-sensors with 'sudo apt-get install lm-sensors'?
[23:56] <yggdrasil> How can i get kernel 3.3 on my kubuntu install ?
[23:56] <ikonia> yggdrasil: you don't
[23:56] <robro_> GhostWolf, No problem :)
[23:56] <yggdrasil> i do
[23:56] <anadon> brjannc: I'm trying the classic trial on their website; its not available for command line use without some hacks.
[23:56] <GhostWolf> robro do you have prefrence to either pinta or gimp?
[23:56] <ikonia> yggdrasil: no, you don't as 3.2 is only in RC status
[23:56] <ohpee> its not a hack
[23:57] <fellayaboy> in /usr/bin i see alot of bin files and when u run it in terminal they run....of course the source files are somewhere else in the computer (does anyone know where they stored? say like firefox. transmission) well i kinda wanna do the same thing except in /usr/local/bin...and any other file
[23:57] <ohpee> its just some editing
[23:57] <ohpee> if its open source
[23:57] <brjannc> anadon: Ah, I understand; can't help you then, I'm no good with the java + browser mess
[23:57] <anadon> crap, well thanks for trying
[23:57] <ohpee> ...wut
[23:57] <robro_> GhostWolf, For basic editing i use Pinta, anything else really I use The GIMP
[23:57] <yggdrasil> right, well 3.2 might do.
[23:57] <ikonia> yggdrasil: it's not build for ubuntu
[23:58] <ikonia> yggdrasil: why do you want it ?
[23:58] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[23:58] <ermo> yggdrasil: do you care if the kernel is unsupported?
[23:58] <yggdrasil> hters apower saving patch.
[23:58] <ikonia> yggdrasil: 3.0.0.12 is the current latest in ubuntu
[23:58] <ermo> yggdrasil: oh, you want the PCIe ASPM stuff
[23:58] <fellayaboy> what is %U
[23:58] <yggdrasil> yea
[23:58] <GhostWolf> robro what i want to do is i have a pic that i have on my back cause it has a tatt on it but i want to not show where you can see the hairs that the pic shows
[23:58] <brjannc> fellayaboy: /usr/local/bin should already be in your path
[23:59] <ermo> reokie: gotta run. Best of luck with fancontrol and lm-sensors :)
[23:59] <ermo> jesse__: did it work re. Templates?
[23:59] <fellayaboy> look...theres a bin file somewhere on my pc...i created a link to that same file in /usr/lcaol/bin but of course the bin is dependent on other files...
[23:59] <fellayaboy> so when i try to run ./whateverprogram it wont cuz its looking for a .conf file
[23:59] <robro_> GhostWolf, I guess The GIMP would work best for that, it takes some time to learn but it's worth it
[23:59] <jesse__> ermo: Yep.