[22:19] <xSmurf> hey all, I'm trying to get an Edirol FA66 working and not getting much luck
[22:19] <xSmurf> (to be honest under straight ubuntu not the studio version)
[22:19] <xSmurf> is it supposed to just show up in Pulseaudio??
[23:36] <holstein> xSmurf: looks like it works out of the box
[23:36] <holstein> http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/12
[23:36] <holstein> probably want to get used to using JACK
[23:36] <xSmurf> I'd really rather avoid using jack
[23:36] <holstein> http://jackaudio.org/
[23:36] <holstein> xSmurf: cool
[23:36] <holstein> good luck with firewire and pulse
[23:36] <xSmurf> so the drivers are jack only or should it show up in alsa??
[23:36] <holstein> ive never heard of that, nor cared to try
[23:37] <holstein> xSmurf: the driver is the ffado firwire driver
[23:37] <xSmurf> yeah I saw that
[23:37] <holstein> thats the driver that'll "just work"
[23:37] <xSmurf> errr yeah my bad, ffado-mixer now sees the card
[23:37] <holstein> yup :)
[23:40] <holstein> not sure what is going on
[23:40] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975640
[23:41] <holstein> ^^ makes me think you need JACK to use the FFADO driver and communicate with pulse
[23:41] <holstein> try #opensourcemusicians
[23:42] <xSmurf> yeah all I see now indicates that
[23:42] <xSmurf> or indicates no one took the time to write drivers for alsa or pulse :/
[23:42] <holstein> yeah, and why bother?
[23:42] <holstein> i mean, for comsumer level work, you wont know the difference
[23:42] <holstein> i think most assume you would want JACK
[23:43] <holstein> OR, you'll just be playing mp3's ;)
[23:43] <xSmurf> depends what your needs are
[23:43] <xSmurf> I don't need JACK and I need super clean audio IOs
[23:43] <xSmurf> I do radio stuff, nothing to do with music
[23:43] <holstein> sure... but, if you need clean balanced in's, i think its safe to assume you want to route to something other than pulse
[23:43] <xSmurf> why so?
[23:43] <holstein> other than getting out of the box
[23:43] <holstein> i mean... you get a nice clean signal for a balanced input to skype?
[23:43] <xSmurf> to GNURadio...
[23:43] <holstein> i guess thats plausible
[23:44] <holstein> they dont support JACK?
[23:44] <holstein> you can do pulse to JACK easy enough
[23:44] <xSmurf> they might
[23:45] <xSmurf> but I don't need jack...
[23:45] <holstein> sure
[23:45] <xSmurf> anyway
[23:45] <holstein> i agrue that you dont need that edirol
[23:45] <holstein> BUT
[23:45] <holstein> you should be able to use it as you want
[23:45] <xSmurf> I have my answer, I hope someday someone will take the time to write native drivers for alsa or pulse and I'll be a happy camper
[23:45] <holstein> its just going to be while til those alsa firewire drivers get working... AGAIK
[23:45] <holstein> AFAIK*
[23:46] <xSmurf> holstein: what would I use instead??
[23:46] <holstein> the internal card?
[23:46] <xSmurf> haha
[23:46] <holstein> anything
[23:46] <holstein> whatever you got
[23:46] <xSmurf> I'm doing signal analysis...
[23:46] <xSmurf> internal cards are full of noise, horrible
[23:46] <holstein> i do not understand why you would not want JACK for that... but to each his/her own
[23:46] <holstein> seems like just the thing
[23:47] <xSmurf> but I'm not using it right now and I'm very happy without it
[23:47] <xSmurf> (when using the shitty internal sound card)
[23:47] <xSmurf> pulse does all I need it to
[23:47] <xSmurf> except support for a proper audio device
[23:47] <xSmurf> pulse is out of the box, so that's nice
[23:47] <holstein> alsa does not yet support your device
[23:47] <holstein> JACK is 'out of the box' as well
[23:48] <holstein> KXstudio was a distro that had it running at login
[23:48] <holstein> now,the dev just gives us PPA's for ubuntu
[23:49] <holstein> anyways... those drivers are coming
[23:49] <xSmurf> as I mentioned, I'm not running ubuntustudio, I just figured (rightly) you guys would be the most informed on the topic
[23:49] <xSmurf> well, good to know :)
[23:49] <xSmurf> count me in for the list of people who actually want those :p
[23:49] <xSmurf> (to each is own ;)
[23:50] <holstein> https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/articles/o/u/t/Out-of-tree_Kernel_Drivers_7ef1.html
[23:53] <xSmurf> interesting
[23:53] <xSmurf> fireworks, an audio driver with ALSA interface for Echo Audio, Gibson, and Mackie Onyx FireWire devices, currently in development
[23:53] <xSmurf> no edirol though
[23:53] <xSmurf> oh well
[23:53] <xSmurf> to be fair the card is not even mine so very little fuck is given ;)
[23:53] <xSmurf> but would have been nice to borrow