[01:44] <preecher> on my xubuntu 11.10 vids are very laggy on youtube-  any ideas why?
[02:01] <GridCube> preecher, because flash its pretty bad on linux?
[02:01] <GridCube> also lately its just failing, at least for me
[02:02] <preecher> o ok
[02:02] <GridCube> you could install flash-aid as a firefox plugin
[02:03] <GridCube> its intention is to fix many problems of flash on ubuntu
[02:03] <preecher> i'll try that thanks GridCube
[02:03] <GridCube> :) hope things go well
[02:03] <preecher> seems my probs just started last few days
[02:03] <GridCube> yes mine too
[02:04] <GridCube> i get broken flash every 4 minutes since last update
[02:04] <preecher> well at least i know others are hving probs as well---
[02:05] <spanther> well for me flash works just fine o.o
[02:05] <GridCube> :) ha
[02:05] <spanther> i'm watching internet streams with flash video hours and hours :)
[02:05] <preecher> well leave it to me to speak to soon-)
[02:06] <GridCube> see spanther http://imagebin.org/184841
[02:06] <GridCube> just tried it
[02:06] <GridCube> not even jocking
[02:06] <GridCube> jokeing?
[02:07] <spanther> oh your plugin just crashed heh :)
[02:07] <spanther> wait, let me install all updates ^^
[02:07] <GridCube> :P yes
[02:08] <spanther> um, my system was actualized allready :)
[02:09] <spanther> flash doesn't crash here (firefox too)
[02:09] <spanther> not on my netbook and not on my desktop too
[02:26] <preecher> well i installed the flash aid addon---seems to be some better but not entirely sure its just in my mind--i'll give it a day or two and see
[02:55] <ToeTag> Hello everyone
[02:55] <GridCube> hello
[02:56] <ToeTag> Grid, this is my first time using IRC - this room is for xubuntu-talk right?
[02:56] <GridCube> :) yes indeed
[02:57] <ToeTag> awesome! I did my very first linux install about a week ago - so exciting
[02:57] <GridCube> you can use the tab key to autocomplete users names, so they will get highlighted and know you are talking to them
[02:57] <GridCube> ;D congratulations!
[02:57] <GridCube> :D how is it going?
[02:58] <ToeTag> GridCube, wow cool trick! You know, it's going well, I had NO idea what I was doing but I got a working build. To be candid, I *did* use a windows installer though (installed xubuntu through windows OS)....is that cheating? :P
[02:59] <GridCube> wubi eh, well, we all start somewhere :)
[02:59] <ToeTag> yeah exactly
[02:59] <ToeTag> not stopping there!
[02:59] <ToeTag> i want to do gentoo or like archlinux from scratch sometimes soon $$$ hah
[03:00] <GridCube> ToeTag, the tab trick is really importan in linux in fact, you can, and should, use it on terminals too, to autocomplete program names
[03:00] <ToeTag> !! my first *technical* learned trick
[03:00] <GridCube> XD ToeTag thats a bit too much i think
[03:00] <ToeTag> ubottu, i can't tell!
[03:00] <GridCube> oh, ToeTag i pressent you to kubot, he is a bot
[03:01] <GridCube> !bot
[03:01] <ToeTag> GridCube, interesting
[03:01] <GridCube> well, its technically a it, but we call him he
[03:01] <GridCube> :)
[03:01] <ToeTag> haha
[03:02] <ToeTag> GridCube, what's your linux pedigree...how did you get into all this
[03:02] <GridCube> ToeTag, if you don't have a support question you should go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <GridCube> here is for helping people with problems :D
[03:02] <ToeTag> GridCube, oh i have them !
[03:02] <ToeTag> alright i'll dig right in
[03:02] <GridCube> you know how to change channels?
[03:02] <GridCube> its easy type:
[03:03] <GridCube> /j #xubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <ToeTag> first, in regards to optimizing speed on low-spec machines, would you say xubuntu or lubuntu to be superior
[03:03] <GridCube> lubuntu, by far
[03:03] <ToeTag> i was completely overwhelmed by all the different opinions, and the fact that different 'desktops' can be installed on different distros
[03:04] <GridCube> :D yes thats fun
[03:04] <ToeTag> lubuntu would be more streamlined than linux mint xdfe i think it was?
[03:04] <GridCube> i guess so, i never used mint
[03:05] <GridCube> well i lie, once in 2009
[03:05] <ToeTag> the distro is for a weenie netbook, and i only really need bare bones - trying to find what would be the fastest
[03:05] <GridCube> :) ToeTag mind if we continue this on offtopic?
[03:06] <ToeTag> not at all, i'm sorry grid
[03:06] <GridCube> :D don't worry
[03:10] <mikodo> I am lost.. What is the difference between #xfce in Freenode and #xfce in Ubuntu-servers... they are different I see... Why have more than one IRC?
[03:15] <mikodo__> Ya, I am lost.. this is #Xubuntu, is it on #ubuntu servers and Freenode or are they different
[03:15] <GridCube> they are the same
[03:15] <GridCube> :)
[03:16] <mikodo__> GridCube, So, it doesn't matter from where I log in from then?
[03:17] <mikodo__> I guess, I could do it from FF too
[03:17] <GridCube> sure
[03:18] <mikodo__> GridCube, Thanks1
[03:18] <GridCube> :)
[03:18] <tyrok> Hi!  I run with a dark theme, and when I upgraded from Natty to Oneiric, a bunch of my GTK-based programs (gedit, rhythmbox, etc.) now have a light theme.  XFCE's GTK theme is set correctly, and everything else in XFCE is showing a light theme, except inside of certain programs.  Any ideas?
[03:19] <tyrok> I should mention that as best I can recall, the programs that now have a light theme formerly ran with the same dark theme as the rest of the system in Natty.
[03:21] <GridCube> tyrok, some programs on 11.10 use gtk3
[03:21] <GridCube> some other do not
[03:21] <GridCube> this causes problems
[03:22] <tyrok> Ah, I hadn't thought of that.
[03:22] <tyrok> Not being very familiar with GTK3 yet, is there a way to change the theme?
[03:24] <tyrok> Or is it the same theme and the theme just needs to be updated to work with GTK3?
[03:25] <GridCube> :( sorry tyrok i dont know
[03:29] <tyrok> Well, thanks for the pointer anyway.  I may be able to fix this thing yet.
[03:58] <tyrok> GridCube: That was it exactly, by the way.  Built a basic GTK3 theme to match my current dark GTK2 theme.  Not perfect yet, but it does solve that mystery!
[03:58] <tyrok> Thanks for the help!
[04:05] <GridCube> :D you are welcome tyrok
[04:05] <GridCube> glad to help
[04:09] <tyrok> Pretty cool how that works.  I may have to see if I can build a few more GTK3 themes - the selection currently seems to be a bit lacking compared to GTK2.
[04:22] <ochosi> tyrok: if you're more interested in that, i could use some help porting xubuntu's default themes to gtk3
[04:23] <ochosi> atm only greybird works, but i'd also like to do bluebird and albatross (the latter being a bit more tricky)
[04:23] <tyrok> ochosi: You built greybird?
[04:23] <ochosi> yup
[04:23] <tyrok> Awesome.  That's what I used as a base for mine, since I couldn't find any others I could start from.
[04:24] <ochosi> :)
[04:24] <tyrok> Thanks!
[04:24] <ochosi> it's not perfect, in fact there are one or two widgets i have to fix for precise
[04:24] <ochosi> thanks though
[04:24] <ochosi> it's nice to see it's appreciated
[04:24] <ochosi> which theme did you port?
[04:24] <tyrok> aud-Default
[04:24] <tyrok> Two things I had trouble with: gedit's line numbers and tabs sections.
[04:25] <ochosi> hum, never heard of it, link?
[04:25] <tyrok> Not really.  I think it comes with Audacious.  Not sure if you can download it separately or not.
[04:25] <ochosi> k, maybe a screenshot with a gtk2 and gtk3 window?
[04:27] <tyrok> Not worth taking a look at the GTK3 theme yet - it's workable, but not good.
[04:27] <ochosi> k
[04:27] <tyrok> I'll see if I can get you a GTK2 screenshot, though.
[04:29] <tyrok> #13 on here sorta shows it: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=40487
[04:29] <tyrok> About the only thing in there that looks like aud-default to me is the context menu.
[04:30] <ochosi> #13 is by jordanmthomas and doesn't show any screener...
[04:30] <ochosi> oh strange
[04:30] <ochosi> in #15 (a reply-quote) the link is visible
[04:30] <tyrok> Ah, it's actually called Divinorum.
[04:30] <ochosi> but it's tiny
[04:30] <ochosi> ok, i'll google it, but i think i heard of it before
[04:31] <tyrok> This, but with white text instead of blue: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/Divinorum-Blue-OriginalSeed-70081.shtml
[04:31] <ochosi> that's pretty much super-glossy :)
[04:31] <Josh_Stevenson43> is this network better than geekshed
[04:32] <tyrok> ochosi: This is it: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum?content=65533
[04:32] <ochosi> tyrok: yes, not sure you can do a matching theme without pixmaps, but who knows. gtk3 is lot more powerful
[04:33] <tyrok> Well, at least I know where to actually download it now!  I was just modifying the system theme and mashing it up with Greybird.
[04:33] <ochosi> :)
[04:34] <ochosi> anyway, if you'd like to help out with bluebird or albatross feel free to ping me anytime
[04:34] <tyrok> K.  I'll keep that in mind.  Might have some time later this upcoming week.
[04:34] <ochosi> ok nice
[04:35]  * ochosi goes to sleep now
[04:35] <ochosi> see you around
[04:35] <tyrok> See 'ya!
[04:44] <Josh_Stevenson43> Hi
[04:45] <Josh_Stevenson43> hello?
[04:57] <ball> If I have two different Linux systems, should (can?) they share a swap partition?
[04:58] <psycho_oreos> they can share the same swap partition yes
[05:02] <ball> Thanks
[05:02] <ball> brb
[06:09] <ball> If I have 2G RAM, what's a sensible amount of swap?
[06:11] <well_laid_lawn> ball: if you want to suspend the comp a bit over 2G, I just have a 512MB swap
[06:12] <ball> Wouldn't it suspend-to-RAM?
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> not here
[06:13] <well_laid_lawn> I turn it off instaed of suspending
[06:16] <well_laid_lawn> ball: I should have said if you want to hibernate...
[06:17] <well_laid_lawn> I never bother with either of those
[06:17] <ball> I didn't know Hibernate used the swap partition
[06:18] <well_laid_lawn> "Hibernating" or suspending to disk writes all the running processes to the disk (typically to the swap partition)"
[06:18] <ball> Interesting
[06:19] <ball> Time for me to go and install Xubuntu then.
[06:19] <ball> I'll be back later.
[06:19] <ball> (I hope)
[06:20] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[06:24] <benonsoftware> Hello all
[09:26] <Sysi> Myrtti: I found a way to change topic color in .irssi/config, maybe it could be changed by adding something to theme too
[09:27] <Myrtti> well let me have another look at dark winter
[09:28] <Myrtti> sb_topic_bg = "%0%M"; makes it Magenta on black
[09:34] <Sysi> works, thanks
[12:01] <Arpad2> hi
[12:01] <madnick> !hi
[12:02] <Arpad2> pls, could you help me , when I plug my pendrive I cant write on is it sais its a rean-only file system
[12:03] <Arpad2> read-only
[12:04] <TheSheep> Arpad2: does the pendrive have a switch on it for making it read-only?
[12:05] <Arpad2> TheSheep: I don't think so
[12:06] <smilegreg> Hi. I'm looking for analog clock applet (if I can say so) similar to that from windows7. I have only found cairo-clock, but that one needs a lot of gnome dependencies...
[12:09] <Sysi> smilegreg: for desktop or for panel?
[12:09] <Arpad2> TheSheep: its this product line http://www.transcend-info.com/products/Catlist.asp?LangNo=0&modno=281
[12:16] <TheSheep> Arpad2: is it formatted as fat or ntfs?
[12:17] <TheSheep> Arpad2: what does it say if you type 'mount' in terminal when it's mounted?
[12:17] <Arpad2> TheSheep: fat32
[12:19] <Myrtti> smilegreg: I use adesklets myself for getting a desktop widget clock
[12:19] <Arpad2> TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744151/
[12:20] <smilegreg> Myrtti: thanks, but I've just installed cairo-clock sucessfully, it _does_not_ need any of gnome dependencies. My fault, sorry.
[12:29] <TheSheep> Arpad2: looks like it's mounted rw
[12:31] <Arpad2> TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744115/
[12:31] <Arpad2> terminal> dmesg
[12:32] <TheSheep> ouch, looks like broken filesystem
[12:32] <Arpad2> line 841
[12:32] <TheSheep> try reformatting
[12:32] <Arpad2> ok
[12:32] <TheSheep> you can format it with startup disk creator
[12:32] <Arpad2> I'm listening :)
[12:33] <TheSheep> system->startup disk creator, select your disk and click 'erase disk'
[12:33] <TheSheep> of course backup all your data before that
[12:34] <Arpad2> its not nececary, its already on the hars drive
[12:35] <Arpad2> ok, I've erased it
[12:41] <Arpad2> TheSheep: it worked. Thaknks a lot!
[12:58] <FOCUS-HERE> I am doing a apt-get upgrade. If i want to stop the upgrade/shudown my pc will the progress done in downloading the updates be saved?'
[13:16] <cablop> hmm
[13:17] <cablop> hello
[13:17] <cablop> i need a little help
[13:17] <knome> hello
[13:17] <knome> !ask
[13:18] <cablop> i have a server with unity and gnome3 installed, but i want to install xfce to it, i am not sure if the xfce-desktop package will overwrite the lightdm or the gdm and change other things, i don't want to, i just want to have another option, but i don't want to change the startup and other things
[13:19] <cablop> hmmm that thing to say don't ask to ask, but when i ask no answer seems so rude...
[13:19] <knome> xubuntu-desktop will overwrite some appearance settings as far as i know, but no startup settings should be changed
[13:20] <cablop> what is the package to install xfce? just to have the minimal set of apps? i don't need office replacements or alike
[13:20] <cablop> hmmm
[13:20] <cablop> i have to restart, give me a minute
[13:21] <knome> xfce4, but please note that everything might not work as expected
[13:21] <knome> and you won't get the default xubuntu looks
[13:21] <cablop> xfce4, hmm,
[13:21] <cablop> i just need the panels and terminal and other things
[13:21] <cablop> it is intended to launch it remotely via nx
[13:21] <cablop> not to use directly
[13:21] <cablop> on fron o the machine
[13:22] <cablop> *front for that i will keep gnome3
[13:22] <cablop> anyway, brb
[13:22] <knome> you can try if the xfce4 package works for you
[14:50] <sburjan`> Hello. Any way to restore the bottom panel if I accidentally deleted it ?
[14:55] <TheSheep> sburjan`: settings->panel and create a panel and put everything you want on it
[15:20] <eNepper> How do I make sure that numlock is activ at the login screen? Im running Xubuntu 11.10
[16:04] <ochosi> eNepper: i think you can use "numlockx on" to set it on by default. throwing that into the autostarted applications could/should work
[16:15] <sidney> Just installed X parole cant play music "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[16:16] <sidney> parole ask do you have a decoder?
[16:17] <sidney> is a decoder the same as codex
[16:19] <ochosi> sidney: you need to install more gstreamer-plugins
[16:20] <sidney> I found them thanks
[16:32] <sidney> wondering is parole lighter than vlc
[17:28] <Da|Mummy> whenever i try and install xubuntu on my netbook, the install boot stops at " * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility         [ OK ]
[17:35] <ball> I've got my daughter's machine set to automatically log in when she turns it on but it still prompts for a password before joining the wireless LAN.  Is there some way of having the PC join the network automatically?
[17:37] <madnick> what version do you use?
[17:37] <madnick> Because it should remember the password if you clicked that option
[17:43] <prouter> hi I wonder can anyone help me, i need to permanently make and amendment to the grub kernel line, i can temporarily edit it on startup but i want to permenantly amend it
[17:53] <hobgoblin> prouter: if you are editing the line in grub - then edit /etc/default/grub and add it there
[17:54] <hobgoblin> prouter: in this line - add it between the "" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[17:54] <hobgoblin> gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub
[17:59] <hobgoblin> prouter: run sudo update-grub when finished - should be there on the next boot, might though be worth saying what you do when temporarily edit on startup :)
[18:14] <Da|Mummy> im having a bit of trouble installing xubuntu, help anyone?
[18:19] <hobgoblin> Da|Mummy: what you having trouble with exactly - if I can help I will :)
[18:19] <Da|Mummy> i cant livecd or install it from my sd card onto atom netbook
[18:20] <Da|Mummy> whenever i try and install xubuntu on my netbook, the install boot stops at " * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility         [ OK ]
[18:20] <Da|Mummy> im currently trying to reformat the sd again, and recreate the boot image from ubuntu startup disc creator
[18:21] <hobgoblin> Da|Mummy: just to make sure the iso is ok - did you check the md5sum - I assume not
[18:21] <Da|Mummy> hmm i can check real quick
[18:21] <hobgoblin> pointless burning or whatever to get the boot medium if the iso's no good
[18:22] <hobgoblin> I would
[18:22] <hobgoblin> you know how
[18:23] <Da|Mummy> md5sum in terminal
[18:23] <Da|Mummy> 5eaf65ba12f74b6c5b912cce2dae1762
[18:24] <hobgoblin> xubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:24] <hobgoblin> looks good :)
[18:25] <Da|Mummy> k. any other ideas?
[18:25] <Da|Mummy> i was able to install ubuntu and kubuntu from the same sd card onto the same netbook
[18:26] <hobgoblin> 11.10 versions?
[18:27] <Da|Mummy> had minor trouble with kubuntu, got error msg vesamenu.c32: Not a COM32R image" nothing a "Tab>live" didnt sort out though
[18:27] <hobgoblin> maybe try some of the boot options - I'd start with nomodeset and acpi=off
[18:27] <hobgoblin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[18:28] <hobgoblin> you can get to that when you get the man and keyboard pic at boot - hit any key and F6
[18:28] <hobgoblin> not sure I can help more though
[18:30] <Da|Mummy> will give it a shot
[18:30] <hobgoblin> Da|Mummy: try the nomodeset - seems to be that error appears when there's graphics problems
[18:31] <hobgoblin> or at least one of the things I've seen points at that
[18:31] <hobgoblin> sorry I can't be of more help
[18:39] <deltaray2> If I run pianobar, then try to play a sound using sox play, the play errors out with "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play FAIL formats: can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy"
[18:39] <deltaray2> Should I be specifying a device or something in sox play or in pianobar?  Why would one block the other?
[18:41] <deltaray2> Actually, it seems that pianobar in general is blocking sound.
[18:41] <Da|Mummy> no luck with nomodeset, stuck at same msg, with acpi=off, its gotten me to a white screen though
[18:42] <hobgoblin> Da|Mummy: sorry then - hang about for a while, people on different timezones come in and out - and it's sunday evening (at least here it is)
[18:42] <hobgoblin> good luck
[18:43] <Da|Mummy> thanks
[18:44] <knome> Da|Mummy, you could try #ubuntu as well as this isn't a xubuntu-specific issue
[18:56] <xubuntu722> hello
[18:56] <xubuntu722> hello tsaavik
[19:33] <zus> hello, does anyone use the Guake drop down Terminal? how can i get it to be just under the top panel? right now it's above the pannel
[19:35] <GridCube> i use tilda
[19:35] <GridCube> and it gets over the panel
[19:35] <zus> well more clearly it opens  infront of the pannel, rather than from beneath
[19:35] <GridCube> it should open over it
[19:36] <GridCube> its not meant to be open all the time
[19:37] <zus> well with windows open the top lines get all muddles when tansparency is enables...i supposed i can move the  panel but id rather not.
[19:37] <GridCube> you could move guake
[19:38] <zus> i never used it before thought id try something i thought it would  open from beneath the panel not so much from above it...
[19:38] <zus> how is tilde? are theyre any differences? between Guake and tilda?
[19:38] <GridCube> ls
[19:39] <GridCube> there should be some
[19:39] <GridCube> but i never used guak
[19:40] <GridCube> zus, http://imagebin.org/184916
[19:41] <zus> looking now
[19:43] <zus> nice, i was looking  for more of this http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/190/guake-metacity.jpeg
[19:44] <GridCube> oh
[19:44] <GridCube> you can say it to start anywhere you want
[19:44] <zus> but the page was saying if i had compix which i dont.
[19:45] <zus> im getting http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/190/guake-compiz.jpeg  but  both my panel and Guake have transparency.
[19:46] <GridCube> zus, in tilda yo can say it at what point start
[19:46] <GridCube> http://imagebin.org/184917
[19:46] <GridCube> see i told it to open at 72
[19:46] <GridCube> on Y position
[19:47] <zus> so the text gets kinda garbled, its not big a deal. i guess it didt do wot i expected -
[19:48] <zus> nice, ill dbl check see if i missed similar options...
[19:48] <GridCube> yo should move it on the Y postion
[19:48] <zus> i ll try even to set it as if i had the issue with compiz, maybe itll move down just enough to no obstruct the panel
[19:52] <zus> hmm i just realized  your text is in espanol :)
[19:55] <GridCube> :D
[20:06] <zus> GridCube,  thanks,
[20:07] <GridCube> np
[21:37] <FusionX> how can I create a shortcut for a certain folder in panel 2 (default auto-hide xubuntu's panel at the bottom)
[21:38] <knome> FusionX, create a normal app launcher and use "exo-open /path/to/yourdir/"
[21:38] <FusionX> knome, okay
[21:38] <knome> FusionX, (or "Thunar /p/t/y/" if you want to disregard default file manager if it's ever anything else
[21:38] <FusionX> knome, what is the command "exo-open" for?
[21:38] <knome> that is for the default file manager
[21:39] <FusionX> I thought there are prefixed with xfce4-*
[21:39] <FusionX> *they are
[21:39] <knome> no, exo-* are general "wrappers"
[21:39] <knome> but as i said, you can just use "Thunar" insteead
[21:39] <knome> -e
[21:42] <varrtto> Hi
[21:43] <varrtto> Im new in this channel
[21:43] <varrtto> I have a doubt
[21:43] <knome> about?
[21:43] <varrtto> may anyone help me?
[21:43] <knome> !ask | varrtto
[21:44] <FusionX> knome, are there any other (better) file managers for xubuntu?
[21:44] <varrtto> In the desktop, the numbers of characters each icons show isn enough to show itś full name, Is there a way to change that?
[21:44] <knome> FusionX, well i like Thunar. i was just proposing exo-open if you *ever* decide to change :)
[21:45] <knome> varrtto, you can change the text size, but afaik you can't force the full names to be shown
[21:45] <varrtto> for example, For example, my personal folder shows as "personal fold..." wich is quite anoying
[21:45] <knome> varrtto, right-click desktop -> desktop settings -> tab icons -> [x] use custom font size:
[21:46] <FusionX> knome, if i browse into a directory and I want to copy the location of a certain file in that directory automatically, is it possible with thunar?
[21:46] <varrtto> but im comfortable with the font size
[21:46] <varrtto> =/
[21:46] <knome> varrtto, there's no other way
[21:48] <TheSheep> FusionX: sure, just right-click on it and select 'copy'
[21:48] <varrtto> may I should submit it as a blueprint for future releases...
[21:48] <TheSheep> FusionX: bam! its url is in your clipboard
[21:48] <knome> TheSheep, doesn't that copy the file:/// -url
[21:48] <TheSheep> knome: that's the location, no?
[21:48] <knome> varrtto, you should add that as a wishlist item for upstream (xfce), will not be pursued in xubuntu
[21:49] <knome> TheSheep, i suppose. but location is "/home/..." also
[21:49] <varrtto> ok. thanks for your time knome!
[21:49] <knome> np
[21:50] <FusionX> TheSheep, I mean without the "file://" prefix and two garbage characters at the end.
[21:52] <TheSheep> FusionX: you do what I described, and then strip the file:// prefix :)
[21:52] <TheSheep> FusionX: what garbage characters?
[21:52] <FusionX> also, how do I retain copied information in the clipboard even after the program it was copied from has been quit?
[21:52] <FusionX> TheSheep, "
[21:52] <FusionX> "
[21:53] <TheSheep> FusionX: you use a clipboard manager, like the xfce4 clipboard plugin
[21:53] <knome> TheSheep, if you paste that to some text editor, there are some unicode chars.
[21:53] <TheSheep> FusionX: but thunar never exits on its own
[21:53] <FusionX> TheSheep: how?
[21:54] <TheSheep> knome: nope, there are none, his client stripped them
[21:54] <FusionX> knome, yup
[21:54] <knome> TheSheep, not in irc i suppose, but if you want/need to copy to text editor
[21:54] <TheSheep> FusionX: install xfce4-clipman-plugin and add it to your panel
[21:55] <TheSheep> FusionX: that's just a newline
[21:55] <FusionX> TheSheep, it didn't display in my irc client
[21:55] <TheSheep> it's CR LF
[21:55] <TheSheep> a newline
[21:55] <TheSheep> I suppose it's there for the case when you copy several urls
[21:57] <TheSheep> anyways, you can also add your custom command to thunar to the right-click menu, and have that command receive the path of the file or the url or whatever you want
[21:57] <TheSheep> in the sendto menu
[21:57] <TheSheep> http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/customizing-thunar.html
[21:58] <TheSheep> for example, I have a command that copies files to my www server
[21:58] <FusionX> TheSheep: that will do! thanks :)
[21:59] <FusionX> one last query, how do I make a program start at startup?
[22:00] <FusionX> xfce4-clipman in this case
[22:00] <TheSheep> FusionX: settings->sessions and startup
[22:00] <TheSheep> then 'autostarted applications'
[22:02] <FusionX> thanks again
[22:03] <CiPi> Is anyone here?
[22:03] <TheSheep> no
[22:03] <TheSheep> just us, mice
[22:03] <CiPi> Damn!
[22:04] <TheSheep> !hi
[22:05] <CiPi> Okay, I have just a small problem.
[22:05] <CiPi> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:05] <CiPi> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:05] <CiPi> How can I remove this from terminal?
[22:05] <CiPi> This lines...
[22:05] <CiPi> When I update, I update from terminal.
[22:06] <TheSheep> go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:06] <TheSheep> do 'grep mozilla *'
[22:06] <CiPi> I`m on it.
[22:06] <TheSheep> and delete the files that show up with that address
[22:07] <TheSheep> if there are none, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor
[22:07] <TheSheep> and remove the two lines
[22:07] <CiPi> They are there.
[22:08] <TheSheep> splendid
[22:10] <CiPi> Done, I removed mozillateam *, now is without any problem.
[22:10] <CiPi> Anyway, that was not a problem.
[22:11] <CiPi> But just anoing and it was my mistake.
[22:11] <CiPi> Thanks alot TheSheep !
[22:24] <sp4z> hi, does anyone know how to install the netspeed gnome applet in xubuntu 11.10? i already have xfapplet installed.
[22:24] <sp4z> or any other applet which has a text representation of the bandwidth being used by a nic
[22:25] <GridCube> sp4z, never heard of that
[22:25] <CiPi> system load monitor
[22:25] <CiPi> Install this.
[22:26] <mongy> sp4z: do you mean the netspeed applet than needs compiling?
[22:27] <mongy> sp4z: http://code.google.com/p/xfce4-netspeed-plugin/downloads/list this one?
[22:27] <sp4z> yeah thats it
[22:27] <CiPi> Install this, is much nicer. System Load Indicator :)
[22:27] <sp4z> ok will check it out thanks
[22:27] <mongy> sp4z: its just like the good old gnome2 version.  I had to install some libs to compile though. xfce4-dev-tools libxfce4util-dev libgtk2.0-dev libxfcegui4-dev libxfce4util-dev xfce4-panel-dev libgtop2-dev
[22:29] <sp4z> yeah thanks mongy, that is the one. i will get out CiPi's recommendation and if that is not what i am looking for i will compile that one cheers.
[22:29] <mongy> sp4z: I tried a few, none do what I wanted
[22:29] <sp4z> CiPi, is that one a panel applet?
[22:29] <sp4z> yeah i really liked that old gnome 2 applet
[22:30] <mongy> sp4z: then you'll need this one
[22:30] <mongy> its the same
[22:30] <CiPi> Yes, is appearing after install right beside the clock in the right-up.
[22:30] <sp4z> cool. thank you.
[22:30] <mongy> sp4z: just ./configure and make and make install
[22:32] <CiPi> inxi is another nice small script that can be implemented in Xubuntu.
[22:33] <CiPi> CPU~Dual core Intel Atom CPU D525 (-HT-MCP-) clocked at 1799.938 Mhz Kernel~3.0.0-12-generic-pae i686 Up~13:19 Mem~1178.3/3001.0MB HDD~125.1GB(67.3% used) Procs~191 Client~X-Chat 2.8.8 inxi~1.7.24
[22:37] <sp4z> mongy; i have compiled it however it does not appear in my add new panel items list.
[22:41] <mongy> sp4z: http://imgur.com/9L9WQ  this is it
[22:42] <mongy> sp4z: sp4z you probably have to configure with /usr prefix
[22:42] <sp4z> oic
[22:43] <mongy> sp4z: is it located in /usr/local?
[22:43] <sp4z> no nothing about netspeed in there
[22:44] <mongy> sp4z: use /usr as your config prefix anyway.
[22:44] <mongy> I did.
[22:44] <CiPi> sp4z, apt-get install indicator-multiload
[22:44] <CiPi> As simple as this can`t be...
[22:44] <mongy> http://code.google.com/p/xfce4-netspeed-plugin/issues/detail?id=3
[22:45] <CiPi> You see the network traffic, and anything you want.
[22:45] <CiPi> HDDload, ram, etc.
[22:46] <sp4z> thanks that got it working. cheers CiPi i will check that out as I have a bunch of other system monitoring apps i could replace with that.
[22:48] <CiPi> For now, this is the best indicator I have seen. Maybe in the future someone will make one much better, but for now this is just perfect. Lightweight and stable.
[22:52] <sp4z> CiPi same issue as the netspeed applet it is not displaying in my panel applet list. or is there something else to it?
[22:53] <CiPi> I don`t know, I never used netspeed.
[22:54] <CiPi> I have used gnome just a bit. I don`t like it. Too much things to crash in it.
[22:55] <sp4z> CiPi, sorry ignore that - it is not showing in the list though
[22:56] <CiPi> :)
[22:56] <mongy> netspeed is all I need
[22:57] <sp4z> yeah it is good
[22:59] <doc|mobile> hey, I'm trying to set up dual monitors on my machine but nvidia-settings doesn't seem to recognise that I can. Am I missing something?
[23:01] <knome> doc|mobile, just to make sure, is your graphics card nvidia?
[23:01] <doc|mobile> knome: hehe, yes
[23:02] <knome> doc|mobile, what's the problem? it doesn't show both of your monitors?
[23:02] <doc|mobile> knome: under GPU 0 it lists DFP-0 and DFP-1
[23:02] <doc|mobile> but there's no way to actually configure them to be side by side or even enabled like there used to be under ubuntu
[23:03] <doc|mobile> hmmm
[23:03] <knome> see "X Server Display Configuration"
[23:03] <doc|mobile> not sure it's properly recognising the second one, lots of unknown details
[23:03] <knome> that's where you set the layout
[23:04] <doc|mobile> "Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0"
[23:04] <knome> hmm
[23:04] <knome> it doesn't load at all then?
[23:05] <doc|mobile> it does, but that's where all the configuration controls would be
[23:05] <knome> mmh.
[23:05] <knome> sounds like a bug in there then.
[23:05] <doc|mobile> used to work fine
[23:07] <doc|mobile> seems like this is a problem in 11.10
[23:07] <doc|mobile> damn it
[23:08] <doc|mobile> going to try older drivers
[23:08] <knome> good luck
[23:09] <doc|mobile> thanks
[23:13] <doc|mobile> also, is it normal for there to be no xubuntu splash screen and no text on startup?
[23:15] <csenger41> hy everyone :)
[23:15] <csenger41> how can I save a Leafpad document in ASCII encoding?
[23:28] <knome> doc|mobile, no, not really
[23:29] <doc|mobile> knome: any idea why it might happen?
[23:29] <doc|mobile> knome: I'm running off an ssd, so I expect it's loading fast, but not that fast
[23:29] <doc|mobile> it's blank for 10-15 secs
[23:30] <knome> i'd say it is the same driver issues