=== cYmen_ is now known as cYmen [01:44] on my xubuntu 11.10 vids are very laggy on youtube- any ideas why? [02:01] preecher, because flash its pretty bad on linux? [02:01] also lately its just failing, at least for me [02:02] o ok [02:02] you could install flash-aid as a firefox plugin [02:03] its intention is to fix many problems of flash on ubuntu [02:03] i'll try that thanks GridCube [02:03] :) hope things go well [02:03] seems my probs just started last few days [02:03] yes mine too [02:04] i get broken flash every 4 minutes since last update [02:04] well at least i know others are hving probs as well--- [02:05] well for me flash works just fine o.o [02:05] :) ha [02:05] i'm watching internet streams with flash video hours and hours :) [02:05] well leave it to me to speak to soon-) [02:06] see spanther http://imagebin.org/184841 [02:06] just tried it [02:06] not even jocking [02:06] jokeing? [02:07] oh your plugin just crashed heh :) [02:07] wait, let me install all updates ^^ [02:07] :P yes [02:08] um, my system was actualized allready :) [02:09] flash doesn't crash here (firefox too) [02:09] not on my netbook and not on my desktop too [02:26] well i installed the flash aid addon---seems to be some better but not entirely sure its just in my mind--i'll give it a day or two and see [02:55] Hello everyone [02:55] hello [02:56] Grid, this is my first time using IRC - this room is for xubuntu-talk right? [02:56] :) yes indeed [02:57] awesome! I did my very first linux install about a week ago - so exciting [02:57] you can use the tab key to autocomplete users names, so they will get highlighted and know you are talking to them [02:57] ;D congratulations! [02:57] :D how is it going? [02:58] GridCube, wow cool trick! You know, it's going well, I had NO idea what I was doing but I got a working build. To be candid, I *did* use a windows installer though (installed xubuntu through windows OS)....is that cheating? :P [02:59] wubi eh, well, we all start somewhere :) [02:59] yeah exactly [02:59] not stopping there! [02:59] i want to do gentoo or like archlinux from scratch sometimes soon $$$ hah [03:00] ToeTag, the tab trick is really importan in linux in fact, you can, and should, use it on terminals too, to autocomplete program names [03:00] !! my first *technical* learned trick [03:00] ToeTag: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:00] XD ToeTag thats a bit too much i think [03:00] ubottu, i can't tell! [03:00] ToeTag: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:00] oh, ToeTag i pressent you to kubot, he is a bot [03:01] !bot [03:01] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [03:01] GridCube, interesting [03:01] well, its technically a it, but we call him he [03:01] :) [03:01] haha [03:02] GridCube, what's your linux pedigree...how did you get into all this [03:02] ToeTag, if you don't have a support question you should go to #xubuntu-offtopic [03:02] here is for helping people with problems :D [03:02] GridCube, oh i have them ! [03:02] alright i'll dig right in [03:02] you know how to change channels? [03:02] its easy type: [03:03] /j #xubuntu-offtopic [03:03] first, in regards to optimizing speed on low-spec machines, would you say xubuntu or lubuntu to be superior [03:03] lubuntu, by far [03:03] i was completely overwhelmed by all the different opinions, and the fact that different 'desktops' can be installed on different distros [03:04] :D yes thats fun [03:04] lubuntu would be more streamlined than linux mint xdfe i think it was? [03:04] i guess so, i never used mint [03:05] well i lie, once in 2009 [03:05] the distro is for a weenie netbook, and i only really need bare bones - trying to find what would be the fastest [03:05] :) ToeTag mind if we continue this on offtopic? [03:06] not at all, i'm sorry grid [03:06] :D don't worry [03:10] I am lost.. What is the difference between #xfce in Freenode and #xfce in Ubuntu-servers... they are different I see... Why have more than one IRC? [03:15] Ya, I am lost.. this is #Xubuntu, is it on #ubuntu servers and Freenode or are they different [03:15] they are the same [03:15] :) [03:16] GridCube, So, it doesn't matter from where I log in from then? [03:17] I guess, I could do it from FF too [03:17] sure [03:18] GridCube, Thanks1 [03:18] :) [03:18] Hi! I run with a dark theme, and when I upgraded from Natty to Oneiric, a bunch of my GTK-based programs (gedit, rhythmbox, etc.) now have a light theme. XFCE's GTK theme is set correctly, and everything else in XFCE is showing a light theme, except inside of certain programs. Any ideas? [03:19] I should mention that as best I can recall, the programs that now have a light theme formerly ran with the same dark theme as the rest of the system in Natty. [03:21] tyrok, some programs on 11.10 use gtk3 [03:21] some other do not [03:21] this causes problems [03:22] Ah, I hadn't thought of that. [03:22] Not being very familiar with GTK3 yet, is there a way to change the theme? [03:24] Or is it the same theme and the theme just needs to be updated to work with GTK3? [03:25] :( sorry tyrok i dont know [03:29] Well, thanks for the pointer anyway. I may be able to fix this thing yet. [03:58] GridCube: That was it exactly, by the way. Built a basic GTK3 theme to match my current dark GTK2 theme. Not perfect yet, but it does solve that mystery! [03:58] Thanks for the help! [04:05] :D you are welcome tyrok [04:05] glad to help [04:09] Pretty cool how that works. I may have to see if I can build a few more GTK3 themes - the selection currently seems to be a bit lacking compared to GTK2. [04:22] tyrok: if you're more interested in that, i could use some help porting xubuntu's default themes to gtk3 [04:23] atm only greybird works, but i'd also like to do bluebird and albatross (the latter being a bit more tricky) [04:23] ochosi: You built greybird? [04:23] yup [04:23] Awesome. That's what I used as a base for mine, since I couldn't find any others I could start from. [04:24] :) [04:24] Thanks! [04:24] it's not perfect, in fact there are one or two widgets i have to fix for precise [04:24] thanks though [04:24] it's nice to see it's appreciated [04:24] which theme did you port? [04:24] aud-Default [04:24] Two things I had trouble with: gedit's line numbers and tabs sections. [04:25] hum, never heard of it, link? [04:25] Not really. I think it comes with Audacious. Not sure if you can download it separately or not. [04:25] k, maybe a screenshot with a gtk2 and gtk3 window? [04:27] Not worth taking a look at the GTK3 theme yet - it's workable, but not good. [04:27] k [04:27] I'll see if I can get you a GTK2 screenshot, though. [04:29] #13 on here sorta shows it: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=40487 [04:29] About the only thing in there that looks like aud-default to me is the context menu. [04:30] #13 is by jordanmthomas and doesn't show any screener... [04:30] oh strange [04:30] in #15 (a reply-quote) the link is visible [04:30] Ah, it's actually called Divinorum. [04:30] but it's tiny [04:30] ok, i'll google it, but i think i heard of it before [04:31] This, but with white text instead of blue: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/Divinorum-Blue-OriginalSeed-70081.shtml [04:31] that's pretty much super-glossy :) [04:31] is this network better than geekshed [04:32] ochosi: This is it: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum?content=65533 [04:32] tyrok: yes, not sure you can do a matching theme without pixmaps, but who knows. gtk3 is lot more powerful [04:33] Well, at least I know where to actually download it now! I was just modifying the system theme and mashing it up with Greybird. [04:33] :) [04:34] anyway, if you'd like to help out with bluebird or albatross feel free to ping me anytime [04:34] K. I'll keep that in mind. Might have some time later this upcoming week. [04:34] ok nice [04:35] * ochosi goes to sleep now [04:35] see you around [04:35] See 'ya! [04:44] Hi [04:45] hello? [04:57] If I have two different Linux systems, should (can?) they share a swap partition? [04:58] they can share the same swap partition yes [05:02] Thanks [05:02] brb [06:09] If I have 2G RAM, what's a sensible amount of swap? [06:11] ball: if you want to suspend the comp a bit over 2G, I just have a 512MB swap [06:12] Wouldn't it suspend-to-RAM? [06:13] not here [06:13] I turn it off instaed of suspending [06:16] ball: I should have said if you want to hibernate... [06:17] I never bother with either of those [06:17] I didn't know Hibernate used the swap partition [06:18] "Hibernating" or suspending to disk writes all the running processes to the disk (typically to the swap partition)" [06:18] Interesting [06:19] Time for me to go and install Xubuntu then. [06:19] I'll be back later. [06:19] (I hope) [06:20] luck [06:24] Hello all === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [09:26] Myrtti: I found a way to change topic color in .irssi/config, maybe it could be changed by adding something to theme too [09:27] well let me have another look at dark winter [09:28] sb_topic_bg = "%0%M"; makes it Magenta on black [09:34] works, thanks === jason is now known as Guest29357 [12:01] hi [12:01] !hi [12:01] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:02] pls, could you help me , when I plug my pendrive I cant write on is it sais its a rean-only file system [12:03] read-only [12:04] Arpad2: does the pendrive have a switch on it for making it read-only? [12:05] TheSheep: I don't think so [12:06] Hi. I'm looking for analog clock applet (if I can say so) similar to that from windows7. I have only found cairo-clock, but that one needs a lot of gnome dependencies... [12:09] smilegreg: for desktop or for panel? [12:09] TheSheep: its this product line http://www.transcend-info.com/products/Catlist.asp?LangNo=0&modno=281 [12:16] Arpad2: is it formatted as fat or ntfs? [12:17] Arpad2: what does it say if you type 'mount' in terminal when it's mounted? [12:17] TheSheep: fat32 [12:19] smilegreg: I use adesklets myself for getting a desktop widget clock [12:19] TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744151/ [12:20] Myrtti: thanks, but I've just installed cairo-clock sucessfully, it _does_not_ need any of gnome dependencies. My fault, sorry. [12:29] Arpad2: looks like it's mounted rw [12:31] TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744115/ [12:31] terminal> dmesg [12:32] ouch, looks like broken filesystem [12:32] line 841 [12:32] try reformatting [12:32] ok [12:32] you can format it with startup disk creator [12:32] I'm listening :) [12:33] system->startup disk creator, select your disk and click 'erase disk' [12:33] of course backup all your data before that [12:34] its not nececary, its already on the hars drive [12:35] ok, I've erased it [12:41] TheSheep: it worked. Thaknks a lot! [12:58] I am doing a apt-get upgrade. If i want to stop the upgrade/shudown my pc will the progress done in downloading the updates be saved?' [13:16] hmm [13:17] hello [13:17] i need a little help [13:17] hello [13:17] !ask [13:17] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:18] i have a server with unity and gnome3 installed, but i want to install xfce to it, i am not sure if the xfce-desktop package will overwrite the lightdm or the gdm and change other things, i don't want to, i just want to have another option, but i don't want to change the startup and other things [13:19] hmmm that thing to say don't ask to ask, but when i ask no answer seems so rude... [13:19] xubuntu-desktop will overwrite some appearance settings as far as i know, but no startup settings should be changed [13:20] what is the package to install xfce? just to have the minimal set of apps? i don't need office replacements or alike [13:20] hmmm [13:20] i have to restart, give me a minute [13:21] xfce4, but please note that everything might not work as expected [13:21] and you won't get the default xubuntu looks [13:21] xfce4, hmm, [13:21] i just need the panels and terminal and other things [13:21] it is intended to launch it remotely via nx [13:21] not to use directly [13:21] on fron o the machine [13:22] *front for that i will keep gnome3 [13:22] anyway, brb [13:22] you can try if the xfce4 package works for you === ragnarok is now known as JustinBieba [14:50] Hello. Any way to restore the bottom panel if I accidentally deleted it ? [14:55] sburjan`: settings->panel and create a panel and put everything you want on it [15:20] How do I make sure that numlock is activ at the login screen? Im running Xubuntu 11.10 [16:04] eNepper: i think you can use "numlockx on" to set it on by default. throwing that into the autostarted applications could/should work [16:15] Just installed X parole cant play music "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins. [16:16] parole ask do you have a decoder? [16:17] is a decoder the same as codex [16:19] sidney: you need to install more gstreamer-plugins === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:20] I found them thanks [16:32] wondering is parole lighter than vlc === mj is now known as Guest74874 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:28] whenever i try and install xubuntu on my netbook, the install boot stops at " * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility [ OK ] [17:35] I've got my daughter's machine set to automatically log in when she turns it on but it still prompts for a password before joining the wireless LAN. Is there some way of having the PC join the network automatically? [17:37] what version do you use? [17:37] Because it should remember the password if you clicked that option [17:43] hi I wonder can anyone help me, i need to permanently make and amendment to the grub kernel line, i can temporarily edit it on startup but i want to permenantly amend it [17:53] prouter: if you are editing the line in grub - then edit /etc/default/grub and add it there [17:54] prouter: in this line - add it between the "" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" [17:54] gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub [17:59] prouter: run sudo update-grub when finished - should be there on the next boot, might though be worth saying what you do when temporarily edit on startup :) [18:14] im having a bit of trouble installing xubuntu, help anyone? [18:19] Da|Mummy: what you having trouble with exactly - if I can help I will :) [18:19] i cant livecd or install it from my sd card onto atom netbook [18:20] whenever i try and install xubuntu on my netbook, the install boot stops at " * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility [ OK ] [18:20] im currently trying to reformat the sd again, and recreate the boot image from ubuntu startup disc creator [18:21] Da|Mummy: just to make sure the iso is ok - did you check the md5sum - I assume not [18:21] hmm i can check real quick [18:21] pointless burning or whatever to get the boot medium if the iso's no good [18:22] I would [18:22] you know how [18:23] md5sum in terminal [18:23] 5eaf65ba12f74b6c5b912cce2dae1762 [18:24] xubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso [18:24] looks good :) [18:25] k. any other ideas? [18:25] i was able to install ubuntu and kubuntu from the same sd card onto the same netbook [18:26] 11.10 versions? [18:27] had minor trouble with kubuntu, got error msg vesamenu.c32: Not a COM32R image" nothing a "Tab>live" didnt sort out though [18:27] maybe try some of the boot options - I'd start with nomodeset and acpi=off [18:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [18:28] you can get to that when you get the man and keyboard pic at boot - hit any key and F6 [18:28] not sure I can help more though [18:30] will give it a shot [18:30] Da|Mummy: try the nomodeset - seems to be that error appears when there's graphics problems [18:31] or at least one of the things I've seen points at that [18:31] sorry I can't be of more help [18:39] If I run pianobar, then try to play a sound using sox play, the play errors out with "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play FAIL formats: can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy" [18:39] Should I be specifying a device or something in sox play or in pianobar? Why would one block the other? [18:41] Actually, it seems that pianobar in general is blocking sound. [18:41] no luck with nomodeset, stuck at same msg, with acpi=off, its gotten me to a white screen though [18:42] Da|Mummy: sorry then - hang about for a while, people on different timezones come in and out - and it's sunday evening (at least here it is) [18:42] good luck [18:43] thanks [18:44] Da|Mummy, you could try #ubuntu as well as this isn't a xubuntu-specific issue [18:56] hello [18:56] hello tsaavik === nud3lz_ is now known as nud3lz [19:33] hello, does anyone use the Guake drop down Terminal? how can i get it to be just under the top panel? right now it's above the pannel [19:35] i use tilda [19:35] and it gets over the panel [19:35] well more clearly it opens infront of the pannel, rather than from beneath [19:35] it should open over it [19:36] its not meant to be open all the time [19:37] well with windows open the top lines get all muddles when tansparency is enables...i supposed i can move the panel but id rather not. [19:37] you could move guake [19:38] i never used it before thought id try something i thought it would open from beneath the panel not so much from above it... [19:38] how is tilde? are theyre any differences? between Guake and tilda? [19:38] ls [19:39] there should be some [19:39] but i never used guak [19:40] zus, http://imagebin.org/184916 [19:41] looking now [19:43] nice, i was looking for more of this http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/190/guake-metacity.jpeg [19:44] oh [19:44] you can say it to start anywhere you want [19:44] but the page was saying if i had compix which i dont. [19:45] im getting http://guake.org/attachment/ticket/190/guake-compiz.jpeg but both my panel and Guake have transparency. [19:46] zus, in tilda yo can say it at what point start [19:46] http://imagebin.org/184917 [19:46] see i told it to open at 72 [19:46] on Y position [19:47] so the text gets kinda garbled, its not big a deal. i guess it didt do wot i expected - [19:48] nice, ill dbl check see if i missed similar options... [19:48] yo should move it on the Y postion [19:48] i ll try even to set it as if i had the issue with compiz, maybe itll move down just enough to no obstruct the panel [19:52] hmm i just realized your text is in espanol :) [19:55] :D [20:06] GridCube, thanks, [20:07] np [21:37] how can I create a shortcut for a certain folder in panel 2 (default auto-hide xubuntu's panel at the bottom) [21:38] FusionX, create a normal app launcher and use "exo-open /path/to/yourdir/" [21:38] knome, okay [21:38] FusionX, (or "Thunar /p/t/y/" if you want to disregard default file manager if it's ever anything else [21:38] knome, what is the command "exo-open" for? [21:38] that is for the default file manager [21:39] I thought there are prefixed with xfce4-* [21:39] *they are [21:39] no, exo-* are general "wrappers" [21:39] but as i said, you can just use "Thunar" insteead [21:39] -e [21:42] Hi [21:43] Im new in this channel [21:43] I have a doubt [21:43] about? [21:43] may anyone help me? [21:43] !ask | varrtto [21:43] varrtto: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [21:44] knome, are there any other (better) file managers for xubuntu? [21:44] In the desktop, the numbers of characters each icons show isn enough to show itś full name, Is there a way to change that? [21:44] FusionX, well i like Thunar. i was just proposing exo-open if you *ever* decide to change :) [21:45] varrtto, you can change the text size, but afaik you can't force the full names to be shown [21:45] for example, For example, my personal folder shows as "personal fold..." wich is quite anoying [21:45] varrtto, right-click desktop -> desktop settings -> tab icons -> [x] use custom font size: [21:46] knome, if i browse into a directory and I want to copy the location of a certain file in that directory automatically, is it possible with thunar? [21:46] but im comfortable with the font size [21:46] =/ [21:46] varrtto, there's no other way [21:48] FusionX: sure, just right-click on it and select 'copy' [21:48] may I should submit it as a blueprint for future releases... [21:48] FusionX: bam! its url is in your clipboard [21:48] TheSheep, doesn't that copy the file:/// -url [21:48] knome: that's the location, no? [21:48] varrtto, you should add that as a wishlist item for upstream (xfce), will not be pursued in xubuntu [21:49] TheSheep, i suppose. but location is "/home/..." also [21:49] ok. thanks for your time knome! [21:49] np [21:50] TheSheep, I mean without the "file://" prefix and two garbage characters at the end. [21:52] FusionX: you do what I described, and then strip the file:// prefix :) [21:52] FusionX: what garbage characters? [21:52] also, how do I retain copied information in the clipboard even after the program it was copied from has been quit? [21:52] TheSheep, " [21:52] " [21:53] FusionX: you use a clipboard manager, like the xfce4 clipboard plugin [21:53] TheSheep, if you paste that to some text editor, there are some unicode chars. [21:53] FusionX: but thunar never exits on its own [21:53] TheSheep: how? [21:54] knome: nope, there are none, his client stripped them [21:54] knome, yup [21:54] TheSheep, not in irc i suppose, but if you want/need to copy to text editor [21:54] FusionX: install xfce4-clipman-plugin and add it to your panel [21:55] FusionX: that's just a newline [21:55] TheSheep, it didn't display in my irc client [21:55] it's CR LF [21:55] a newline [21:55] I suppose it's there for the case when you copy several urls [21:57] anyways, you can also add your custom command to thunar to the right-click menu, and have that command receive the path of the file or the url or whatever you want [21:57] in the sendto menu [21:57] http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/customizing-thunar.html [21:58] for example, I have a command that copies files to my www server [21:58] TheSheep: that will do! thanks :) [21:59] one last query, how do I make a program start at startup? [22:00] xfce4-clipman in this case [22:00] FusionX: settings->sessions and startup [22:00] then 'autostarted applications' [22:02] thanks again === cipi is now known as CiPi [22:03] Is anyone here? [22:03] no [22:03] just us, mice [22:03] Damn! [22:04] !hi [22:04] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [22:05] Okay, I have just a small problem. [22:05] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [22:05] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [22:05] How can I remove this from terminal? [22:05] This lines... [22:05] When I update, I update from terminal. [22:06] go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d [22:06] do 'grep mozilla *' [22:06] I`m on it. [22:06] and delete the files that show up with that address [22:07] if there are none, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor [22:07] and remove the two lines [22:07] They are there. [22:08] splendid [22:10] Done, I removed mozillateam *, now is without any problem. [22:10] Anyway, that was not a problem. [22:11] But just anoing and it was my mistake. [22:11] Thanks alot TheSheep ! [22:24] hi, does anyone know how to install the netspeed gnome applet in xubuntu 11.10? i already have xfapplet installed. [22:24] or any other applet which has a text representation of the bandwidth being used by a nic [22:25] sp4z, never heard of that [22:25] system load monitor [22:25] Install this. [22:26] sp4z: do you mean the netspeed applet than needs compiling? [22:27] sp4z: http://code.google.com/p/xfce4-netspeed-plugin/downloads/list this one? [22:27] yeah thats it [22:27] Install this, is much nicer. System Load Indicator :) [22:27] ok will check it out thanks [22:27]