[01:07] <mrand> crowd sourced mentoring via irc or mailing list. :-)
[02:14] <bil21al> helo people good morning. i have a problem.i have reported a bug to the upstream  and developer commented on that but i am not understanding that what is he asking can any body told me its about nautilus?
[02:17] <bil21al> any body
[02:17] <bil21al> ?
[02:23] <micahg> !ask | bil21al
[02:23] <ubot4> bil21al: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[02:23] <bil21al> micahg: bro here is the link https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664441
[02:23] <ubot4> Gnome bug 664441 in general "Ejecting a CD or DVD manually does not unmount it" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[02:24] <micahg> bil21al: which part of the response don't you understand?
[02:25] <lifeless> whois bil21al
[02:26] <bil21al>  comment by andre klapper whole comment i dnt understand that what about he is asking?
[02:26] <micahg> bil21al: what OS are you running
[02:26] <bil21al> lifeless:i m bil21al what happen?
[02:26] <bil21al> ubuntu
[02:26] <bil21al> 11.10
[02:26] <micahg> bil21al: that's the question being asked upstream :)
[02:27] <bil21al> is there any channel of developer or nautilus channel  mean? micahg:
[02:28] <bil21al> lifeless:u asked about bil21al what happened?
[02:29] <micahg> bil21al: I just told you what's being asked, not sure if there's an IRC channel, but being that you got a response in 50 minutes upstream, I don't think you have to worry
[02:29] <bil21al> ok will you tell me what he asked or what is that about ?
[02:30] <micahg> bil21al: I told you already
[02:30] <bil21al> which one please mention again please bro
[02:30] <micahg> [20:26] <micahg> bil21al: what OS are you running
[02:30] <micahg> [20:26] <bil21al> lifeless:i m bil21al what happen?
[02:30] <micahg> [20:26] <bil21al> ubuntu
[02:30] <micahg> [20:26] <bil21al> 11.10
[02:30] <micahg> [20:26] <micahg> bil21al: that's the question being asked upstream :)
[02:31] <bil21al> ok
[02:31] <bil21al> thanks you so much
[02:31] <bil21al> have a nice day
[13:01] <evfool> looking for kernel bug triagers who can help me with bug 891968
[13:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 891968 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen turns off when the kernel is loaded (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891968
[14:22] <gema> bdmurray pedro_ ping
[14:24] <pedro_> gema, pong, hola
[14:24] <gema> pedro_: hi
[14:25] <pedro_> jsalisbury, bug 891968 , re evfool question
[14:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 891968 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen turns off when the kernel is loaded (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891968
[14:25] <gema> pedro_: we are working towards making the QA meeting independent from the bug control meeting and would like to discuss with you and bdmurray what's the best way to proceed to disrupt the less the better
[14:26] <gema> pedro_: I am going to be asking for a different slot for our meeting, and was wondering how would you like to have the bug control meeting called
[14:26] <gema> pedro_: assuming that want it to stay on the same date/time
[14:28]  * micahg thought they already were on different days/times
[14:30] <gema> micahg: as of now, we are discussing bug related issues as well as QA issues during the Weekly Ubuntu QA Team Meeting
[14:30] <gema> micahg: as far as I understand it :)
[14:33] <pedro_> gema, i don't have a strong opinion on the name, perhaps leaving it as bugs meeting for now until we agreed on that?
[14:33] <pedro_> same for the time i guess
[14:34] <gema> pedro_: ok, so I will rename the current meeting as Bugs Meeting on the fridge and see if I can schedule another one for QA maybe on the previous hour or so, that way if someone is used to the time and wants to attend both, makes things easy
[14:34] <pedro_> gema, btw i think its a good move to split the meetings ;-)
[14:34] <gema> pedro_: it's good to know, we both need to work out the new agendas, though
[14:34] <gema> pedro_: I will be announcing it in this week's meeting and we can start on the new set up next week or so
[14:35] <micahg> and this is different from the monthly bug squad meeting?
[14:35] <gema> pedro_:  :D
[14:35] <pedro_> micahg, more like a weekly meeting for the Defect Analysts
[14:36] <pedro_> perhaps we can add agenda topics from the bugsquad to it? ;-)
[14:36] <micahg> ah, why not call it a Defect Analysts meeting then?
[14:36] <pedro_> and remove the monthly bugsquad meeting
[14:36] <pedro_> we always forget about it
[14:37] <gema> pedro_, micahg : you are lucky I am slow writing emails, I haven't sent the email asking for the fridge reorganisation yet, which name is it going to be for now for the bugs meeting?
[14:37] <gema> :)
[14:38] <micahg> well, I guess it depends if you want outside people jumping in or not
[14:39] <micahg> i.e. a bug control meeting, I might try to attend, a Defect Analyst meeting, probably less so
[14:39] <pedro_> right, lets put it as bugs meeting for now until we agree on the name/target/etc
[14:39] <gema> we'll call it bug control, then
[14:39] <gema> bugs meeting it is, then
[14:39] <pedro_> thanks gema
[14:40] <gema> np, pedro_ , I will copy you and bdmurray in the meeting to amber to request the change to the fridge
[14:40] <pedro_> oki doki
[14:42] <evfool> thanks pedro_
[14:50] <jsalisbury> pedro_, \o looking at that bug
[14:50] <pedro_> jsalisbury, thanks
[14:52] <jsalisbury> pedro_, did you have a specific question about that bug, or just wanted to point it out?
[14:52] <pedro_> jsalisbury, actually evfool was asking about it
[14:52] <pedro_> evfool, ^
[14:53] <evfool> jsalisbury: what else should I attach to it to help triaging it?
[14:53] <jsalisbury> evfool, the apport logs would be great.  If you can get to a console during the install?
[14:53] <jsalisbury> evfool, or can you not get that far?
[14:54] <evfool> jsalisbury: I ahve managed to install it using 11.04, install fglrx, update from console to 11.10, and now it does work, but with the 11.10 installer, could not get to a terminal
[14:54] <evfool> jsalisbury: but will apport-collect right now
[14:55] <jsalisbury> evfool, apport-collect 891968
[14:55] <jsalisbury> evfool, that will add the logs right to the bug
[14:58] <evfool> jsalisbury: done, info attached, if you need anything else, I'll send it to you
[14:59] <jsalisbury> evfool, thanks.  Do you happen to know if this issue happens with other distros that also use the 3.0 or newer kernel?
[14:59] <evfool> jsalisbury: commented in the bug, tried Fedora, Mint, OpenSuse, and all have the same issue
[15:00] <jsalisbury> evfool, ok, thanks.  That would indicate an upstream bug, but I don't think bugzilla.kernel.org is back online yet to report it.
[15:00] <evfool> jsalisbury: might be related to the AMD fusion APU support introduced in kernel 3.0
[15:00] <evfool> jsalisbury: no, bugzilla.kernel.org isn't online
[15:42] <gema> pedro_ , micahg , bdmurray we are all set for next week!
[20:24] <mlegris> When I try to use the latest upstream kernel to try to resolve a bug, I'm seeing dependency issues...is this normal?
[20:25] <mlegris> nm, looks like a arch mismatch
[21:48] <hggdh> bdmurray: mind having a look at bug 893302 and bug 892903?
[21:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 893302 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "friendly-recovery depends on /usr/bin/whiptail, and will fail if /usr on a different filesystem (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893302
[21:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 892903 in partman-base (Ubuntu) "encrypted LVM install fails with "unsafe swap space detected" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892903
[21:49] <chilicuil> hi there, agains what package (is possible) mirror bugs should be filled?, ubuntu-mirror-admins?
[21:50] <chilicuil> just wanted to answer this question https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/872214/comments/4
[21:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 872214 in apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) "apt is broken with apt-cacher-ng (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[21:52] <bdmurray> hggdh: what does the bug tag manual mean?
[21:53] <hggdh> bdmurray: while we discuss what to use, I am using it to denote manual/exploratory testing
[21:53] <hggdh> and iso-testing because it was off the ISO
[21:54] <hggdh> bdmurray: I expect I will replace the 'manual' tag soon, though
[21:54] <bdmurray> hggdh: in your discussions I hope manual isn't chosen as it seems ambigous to me
[21:55] <hggdh> I do not want to use it. But I had a brain crash this morning while I was figuring a tag to use, and the only thing that would pop up was 'manual'...
[21:59] <micahg> hggdh: how about test-confirmation-needed
[22:00] <hggdh> hum
[22:03] <micahg> hggdh: LP autocomplete is nice :)
[22:06] <hggdh> heh
[22:10] <hggdh> micahg: test-confirmation-needed is sort of redundant, given that all New bugs need confirmation
[22:11] <micahg> hggdh: testcase-needed? :D
[22:19] <hggdh> lol
[22:19] <hggdh> my brain is really fried today
[22:42] <bdmurray> bug 892751 is not about an ubuntu package
[22:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 892751 in ubuntu "error detection OCR (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892751
[22:50] <hggdh> and, anyway. it is from a ppa