| rick_h_ | greg-g: heh, look a lot like your own paths? | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | God, I really, really wish I could install Ubuntu on this XP machine | 00:15 |
| rick_h_ | heh, having a good windows day? | 00:15 |
| snap-l | Apparently the "rescue partition" isn't, and requires a DVD | 00:15 |
| rick_h_ | oops | 00:15 |
| snap-l | which I have | 00:15 |
| snap-l | Of course the Eee domes with no DVD drive | 00:15 |
| snap-l | but, I managed to get the files off | 00:16 |
| snap-l | and realize now that the restore file is a .GHO file | 00:16 |
| snap-l | which means it's Norton Ghost, correct? | 00:16 |
| snap-l | Anywho, so I have to come up with some form of boot disc for this POS | 00:17 |
| snap-l | Frankly, I should just remove the HDD, and put in a 16GB SD card, and see if they notice. | 00:18 |
| snap-l | Gah, and Clonezilla is a bit impenetrable for reimaging this from the .gho file | 01:04 |
| snap-l | Watch out, the programmers of this rogue software got just a bit smarter. The infection I got was not named [random]. it was named with some jibberish. Still in the same location though. | 02:41 |
| snap-l | headdesk | 02:41 |
| snap-l | I think they need to rename WIndows to "buttfuck" | 03:12 |
| snap-l | because it's too easy to buttfuck the entire system. | 03:12 |
| rick_h_ | morning party people | 12:51 |
| Wolfger | morning | 13:38 |
| Wolfger | party | 13:38 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 13:54 |
| brousch | snap-l: did you buy pygame magazine? | 14:08 |
| snap-l | si | 14:20 |
| brousch | any good? | 14:31 |
| snap-l | Yeah, though it's mostly in the tutorial phase of the magazine | 14:31 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Xulsjo5I | 14:32 |
| brousch | i was thinking of going over it at grpug tonight | 14:33 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it would be definitely something to go over | 14:33 |
| brousch | i miss python magazine | 14:33 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I hope this doesn't hit the same fate. | 14:33 |
| brousch | i signed up, got exactly 1 issue, then it died | 14:33 |
| snap-l | brousch: I have 10 of 'em. | 14:35 |
| snap-l | 2008-06 - 2008-12, 2009-02 and 2009-05 | 14:35 |
| snap-l | http://www.freep.com/article/20111121/NEWS05/111121001/Police-Royal-Oak-woman-80-killed-in-home | 14:37 |
| snap-l | ^- The Grammar Gods do not approve of your headline and lead-in sentence. | 14:37 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: New Album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj4NVYtzlQA | 14:42 |
| brousch | wow, someone sent us a google sketchup model that takes a full 5 minutes to open on our super-desktop. it uses 1.2GB of RAM once it's open | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | nice! | 14:55 |
| brousch | sketchup is apparently single-threaded, so the other 3 cores are idle | 14:57 |
| snap-l | That's not surprising | 14:57 |
| snap-l | I wish more software was multi-CPU capable | 14:57 |
| brousch | this is 3d modeling software | 14:57 |
| snap-l | i.e.: LAME and OGG encoding | 14:57 |
| brousch | if anything should be multi-core, this should be | 14:57 |
| snap-l | Oh, no doubt. | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but it's something they bought and actually is used more in hobby stuff than anything | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | all the woodworkers use it for modeling projects | 14:58 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: because not everyone needs Autocad. ;) | 14:58 |
| brousch | this is a parking desk for some arena | 14:58 |
| brousch | deck | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: oh definitely, but that's why I'm not holding multi-core against it | 14:58 |
| snap-l | brousch: Someone is very, very cheap, then. ;) | 14:58 |
| brousch | but they included buildings in about 1/2 mile radius | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | there's a pay version of sketch-up | 14:59 |
| snap-l | Right, but I wouldn't expect someone to design a parking deck with Sketchup | 14:59 |
| brousch | we've only gotten 1 other sketchup model in all my years. that was a little park gazebo | 14:59 |
| snap-l | brousch: And that's fine | 14:59 |
| snap-l | But things that require structural integrity I'd think require some more modeling capability | 15:00 |
| snap-l | and virtual stress testing | 15:00 |
| snap-l | Actually, that might not be that wild | 15:02 |
| snap-l | Wonder if they used Building Maker | 15:02 |
| brousch | i suspect they built this in a real program exported to sketchup so people could view it for free | 15:08 |
| brousch | cornhuskers basketball arena i think | 15:08 |
| brousch | ok, wow, i think they included detailed models of other university buildings, like the football stadium | 15:12 |
| brousch | fun, but really pretty useless | 15:12 |
| brousch | rick_h_: supposedly this will run under wine, so you can use it too | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, fails | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | at least when I last tried | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | the gui is a mess | 15:14 |
| brousch | it's a simple UI | 15:14 |
| brousch | the fail is using ruby as the scripting language instead of python | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | I mean the menu doesn't show up, the cursor comes/goes | 15:15 |
| snap-l | Yeah, there's no Linux version to speak of | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | welcome to life with google | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | see picasa :( | 15:22 |
| brousch | rick_h_: sketchup8 is running pretty well under wine with 1 registry edit | 15:25 |
| brousch | quite fast | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: cool | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | it's been a while | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | see whole story of my lack of woodworking in nearly 2yrs and all that | 15:25 |
| brousch | http://wiki.winehq.org/GoogleSketchup | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's a pretty cool app, works well for the woodworking side of things | 15:26 |
| brousch | all you have to do is give up sleep | 15:26 |
| rick_h_ | I like the model gallery they've got | 15:26 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I knew there was a way! | 15:26 |
| brousch | soon you'll be able to delegate some tasks to your spawned process | 15:28 |
| rick_h_ | I've got some time yet. Currently it's hard for that process to handle it's own functions much less additional ones | 15:28 |
| brousch | unfortunately that doesn't give you more free time, it gives you less | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/244277/new_kernel_patch_slashes_linuxs_power_appetite.html | 15:29 |
| brousch | wow, sketchup under wine opened that monster model | 15:38 |
| brousch | slow, but it worked | 15:38 |
| rick_h_ | nice! | 15:38 |
| brousch | actually i think it opened faster, but is slower once it's open | 15:39 |
| brousch | that was fun. glad i could bring it back on topic | 15:41 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: hey, how did your pdf tests go on the tablets? | 15:42 |
| snap-l | Decently | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | my wife is now wondering if she should get a tablet to read her medical pdfs on | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | I tried it on a verizon floor model, but ugh | 15:42 |
| snap-l | The "killer PDF" took a while on the tablet, but didn't crash | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | not sure if it's the reader or what, but the screen still doesn't seem big enough to read without scrolling | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so reading it would work out though? | 15:42 |
| brousch | small text, but readable | 15:42 |
| snap-l | If I were to pick one I'd choose the tablet | 15:43 |
| snap-l | you can zoom in on the B&N Tablet with pinch to zoom | 15:43 |
| brousch | i end up zooming in to eliminate the white border on all PDFs | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, damn now I really want to get a DX to test out | 15:43 |
| snap-l | The color doesn't zoom by default | 15:43 |
| rick_h_ | ok...thanks. grumble with stupid tech that still isn't "quite right" | 15:43 |
| snap-l | Yeah, and there's no tilt sensor, so you can't go landscape | 15:44 |
| brousch | i use adobe reader on it | 15:44 |
| snap-l | at least not on the color or touch | 15:44 |
| brousch | mine has tilt | 15:44 |
| snap-l | can't remeber if the tablet did tilt. | 15:44 |
| rick_h_ | so maybe a tablet would make a good pdf reader for her | 15:44 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, but the default reader doesn't handle it | 15:44 |
| brousch | rick_h_: does she enjoy tiny fonts as much as you? | 15:44 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It would be the best non-rooting one, yes. | 15:44 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: no, she's normal | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | and blind | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | getting more and more tempted to get a DX and "test" it for both of us | 15:47 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Honestly, take a few of them on a micro-SD card ( I have on you can borrow) and try it out | 15:47 |
| snap-l | One thing B&N has over the others is they'll let you play with them. | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I figure that there must be a pdf reader in the market that might be better | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | the verizon tablets I testsed had a horrible default pdf reader | 15:47 |
| snap-l | If someone blew up my Kobo, and I had $250 laying around, I'd have the Tablet | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | ok cool, I'll try to get a sample pdf from her and do some more testing | 15:48 |
| snap-l | Thing is the Kobo has nice integration with the iPhone | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | I'm anti-tablet, I don't want to get one :P | 15:48 |
| snap-l | I mean, REALLY good integration | 15:48 |
| snap-l | replaced Goodreader for me for PDFs | 15:48 |
| snap-l | But I don't trust them enough to even consider the Vox | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | woot, got my ep.io beta invite | 15:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sorry man, but kobo is dead | 15:50 |
| rick_h_ | choose your player, nook or kindle now | 15:50 |
| snap-l | Well, their customer service is a fucking joke | 15:50 |
| Wolfger | rick_h_: speaking of tablets and PDF's... does the Kindle do a decent job of displaying PDF files? | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: so the smaller one can do ok if you put it in landscape | 15:51 |
| snap-l | Check getsatisfaction.com/kobo. People are PISSSED. | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | but if your pdf is two columns, it sucks because you have to go forward a page, back a page, forward a page to read | 15:51 |
| brousch | there's just not enough pixels in 1024x600 to read a pdf easily | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | the DX does pdf awesomely, but it's $$$ and such | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, that's kind of what I was wondering. Does someone that cares about pdfs like these 7" tablets for pdfs | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | if they do, my wife can probably get by | 15:52 |
| brousch | i am reading the python testing book on pdf on mine | 15:52 |
| brousch | it's usable | 15:52 |
| brousch | i think there is room in the market for a nice pdf reader that compensates for the shortcummings | 15:53 |
| brousch | wow, been reading too much banned word list | 15:53 |
| brousch | like if i could zoom in then lock the left and right margins at that zoom level, it would be much nicer | 15:54 |
| brousch | also if it could save what page i was viewing last | 15:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the lack of whispersync on pdfs is a pita | 15:54 |
| Wolfger | :-( | 15:55 |
| Wolfger | Glad my O'Reilly ebook is available in .mobi | 15:55 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I mean it's not killer for me at least | 15:56 |
| brousch | there's a epub version of this book, but the formatting is crap | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | there are pdfs that would look better than the mobi | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | and stuff like printing a long web page to pdf and putting it on the kindle to read later would be nice | 15:56 |
| brousch | i wonder how hard it would be to wrap adobe reader with some of these functions | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | yea, no idea | 15:57 |
| brousch | i'll add it to my list of apps i'll never get to | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | good man, at least you have a list :P | 15:58 |
| brousch | by the time i get to it everyone will have 1280x800 tablets and reading letter sized pdf will be fine | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | there you go, whenever this damn nexus comes out, HD display will be nice | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | once they hit tablets, should be cool | 15:59 |
| brousch | the list is kind of depressing. it grows b y 1 idea/week with nothing falling off it | 15:59 |
| dzho | but then by that time, your eyes will start going . . . | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: you need an app for that, that just pulls 5 randomly from the list with a nice little add widget | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | that way it always seems short/same size | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | and you see different ideas each time you load it | 16:00 |
| brousch | wonderful, let me add the app idea viewer to my list of app ideas | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | it's getting meta in here | 16:01 |
| snap-l | Getting? | 16:02 |
| rick_h_ | true I guess "I wonder if I could write a pdf reader that could wrap and add functions to another pdf reader for my pdf reading" | 16:02 |
| snap-l | "Yo, I heard you like PDFs, so I put a PDF in your PDF so you can PDF while you PDF" | 16:03 |
| snap-l | Or Adobe's version: | 16:03 |
| snap-l | "Yo, I heard you like Javascript, so I put some javascript in your PDF reader so you can Javascript while you PDF" | 16:04 |
| brousch | oh crap, what this monstrous xkcd today? | 16:04 |
| snap-l | http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/yo-dawg-mac.jpg | 16:04 |
| snap-l | http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/yo-dawg-lisp.jpg | 16:05 |
| snap-l | Pardon me while I go completely off the rails. | 16:05 |
| * ColonelPanic001 fetches the crazy train | 16:06 | |
| brousch | FTR amazon video on demand does not play well on the nook color | 16:11 |
| brousch | netflix is OK, but not great | 16:11 |
| brousch | rick_h_: here's a page from art of community at full page width zoom on the nook color http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/aoc-pg2-full-page.png | 16:21 |
| brousch | and then one zoomed to remove the margins, which is how i use it http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/aoc-pg2-no-margins.png | 16:21 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 16:22 |
| snap-l | Not sure how many board gamers are in here, but JoDee and I picked up Ascending Empires. | 16:22 |
| snap-l | http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37919/ascending-empires | 16:22 |
| snap-l | It's a pretty solid little game | 16:23 |
| snap-l | Kind of like a cross between Civ and Galcon | 16:23 |
| brousch | i guess those are most useful if you can view them on something with the same pixel density as the nook color | 16:25 |
| brousch | 169PPI | 16:27 |
| brousch | it looks like the nook tablet and kindle fire have the same size and resolution as the nook color | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | woot, project arrived. Time to test it out before CHC | 17:14 |
| snap-l | Which project is this? :) | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | oops, projector | 17:55 |
| rick_h_ | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Otv87FjTFOI/TsqQv-WE50I/AAAAAAAAA5s/EN8VpUEzRmw/s144/IMG_20111121_122043.jpg | 17:56 |
| rick_h_ | ignore the bowl of soup there nad such | 17:56 |
| snap-l | niiiiice. | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | well, I'm still going back and forth | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | it's a cheaper one, priced for brightness and portablility | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | but no battery, and no keystone'ing | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | but came with the stand | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | but the one I wanted next was $140 ish more, no stand | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | has a bit more brightness than the one Mat brought to CHC that one time | 17:59 |
| rick_h_ | but loaded up a video and seems like it'll do the job as long as I can get it positioned right | 17:59 |
| snap-l | http://dashes.com/anil/2011/11/facebook-is-gaslighting-the-web.html <- Wow | 18:03 |
| snap-l | That wasthe only use-case for Facebook when I used it (piping RSS from my blog to Facebook) | 18:03 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: ++ on the yo-dawg jpegs. | 18:06 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: I'm surprised you can see them. ;) | 18:09 |
| Wolfger | Me too. | 18:10 |
| Wolfger | Article about Facebook gaslighting the web: can't see. | 18:10 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Lovely. ;) | 18:13 |
| rick_h_ | man I hate stupid surveys...THINK people | 18:16 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Which survey? | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | the stupid sound thing | 18:17 |
| snap-l | heh | 18:18 |
| snap-l | I thought it was a pretty reasonablesurvey | 18:18 |
| snap-l | but I also think they're going to find out that people still use some fo the functionality. | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | the first question says "Hey, you ever used this..." | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | ok cool | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | second question "If you've used it, please let us know how important it is" | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | "oh...I've never used it, so I'll skip it...hmm it's required...where's the N/A option then...wtf!!!!" | 18:19 |
| greg-g | yay!!!!! | 18:22 |
| greg-g | "out for delivery" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZYF3LO | 18:22 |
| greg-g | (I got it for $100 less than that current price, there was a $100 instant rebate good through this sat.) | 18:22 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Didn't you get the memo? Just use an iPhone. ;) | 18:22 |
| greg-g | :P | 18:22 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: oooh, nice! | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | I miss the SLR | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | heh, oops, so I got hit by monday | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | there are three questions there | 18:24 |
| greg-g | yeah, going to be having some fun with it this week | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | not 2 | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | and the 3rd is required | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: http://www.lensrentals.com/ is fun for that stuff | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | I did my cousin's wedding by renting a hotshoe flash and some nice lenses...so much fun | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | and good for testing a lense before you drop $$ on it | 18:26 |
| greg-g | oh nice! | 18:29 |
| snap-l | http://jderose.blogspot.com/2011/11/note-on-ubuntu-one-dropping-couchdb.html | 18:32 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's interesting | 18:32 |
| rick_h_ | though not suprising, if they're going to compete with drobox, going to have to get past couch | 18:32 |
| snap-l | Well, none of this stuff really worked well | 18:33 |
| snap-l | contacts sync was down more often than not | 18:33 |
| snap-l | Notes was somewhat interesting | 18:34 |
| snap-l | I don't think playlists ever got off theground | 18:34 |
| snap-l | Because we are no longer going to pursue CouchDB, we will | 18:34 |
| snap-l | no longer be developing desktopcouch; in fact, if anybody wants to take | 18:34 |
| snap-l | over, we'll be happy to work with you to make that official. For the | 18:34 |
| snap-l | upcoming 12.04 the Ubuntu One packages will not depend on desktopcouch | 18:34 |
| snap-l | nor couchdb in any way, and we'd recommend the distribution seriously | 18:34 |
| snap-l | consider whether they want to continue having the package in main, | 18:35 |
| snap-l | especially if no maintainer shows up. | 18:35 |
| rick_h_ | ouch, I didn't realize they had the alternative far enough along to make the switch | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Interesting that they finally got the shit mostly stable, so now they can abandon it in peace. ;) | 18:35 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It'll be another painful transition | 18:36 |
| snap-l | We're calling it U1DB | 18:36 |
| snap-l | for now, until it comes of age. If you're interested and techincally | 18:36 |
| snap-l | inclined you can follow our progress on lp:u1db; unfortunately our | 18:36 |
| snap-l | timing and resources are such that we can only promise the reference | 18:36 |
| snap-l | python implementation will be ready in time for 12.04, and thus 12.04 | 18:36 |
| snap-l | will ship without Ubuntu One having a solid story around synchronizing | 18:36 |
| snap-l | arbitrary structured data. | 18:36 |
| snap-l | I believe we have a candidate for 12.04's pain point. | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | woot! python | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, backends has memory and sqlite? This doesn't make me feel warm/fuzzy | 18:38 |
| snap-l | Everything will be sqlite in the near future | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | but things can't talk to sqlite at the same time | 18:50 |
| snap-l | That'll lead to the desktop postgresql cloud servers | 18:52 |
| snap-l | every Ubuntu desktop will have access to 1 postgresql instance in the cloud | 18:52 |
| brousch | kewl | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | offline? | 18:53 |
| brousch | what's offline? | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | mobile? | 18:53 |
| brousch | it's in the cloud, d00d | 18:53 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: If you're offline, it's because you picked the wrong horse for a carrier. | 18:53 |
| brousch | is couchdb bad? | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | it's not ubu-scale | 18:54 |
| snap-l | No, it's jut slow | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | especially with files and crap | 18:54 |
| brousch | i have looked at it even less than mongo, which i've looked at basically not at all | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | meh, forget mongo, check out couch. It's more useful for most of us | 18:54 |
| snap-l | Mongo is web-scale | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | but dropbox isn't sitting on top of that stuff | 18:55 |
| brousch | dropbox is the bizomb | 18:55 |
| rick_h_ | mongo is more annoying than a party of RoR developers at a RoR version release all trying to run simultaneous gem update commands | 18:55 |
| snap-l | Mongo is annoying because it's the nitro-burning funny car of databases | 18:56 |
| brousch | sourceforge uses it | 18:56 |
| snap-l | brousch: Where do you think I learned to dislike Mongo | 18:58 |
| snap-l | Thing is, Mongo encourges you to do stupid things with your data, like nitro-burning funny cars encourage you to do stupid things with your car | 19:00 |
| brousch | yeah, i'm bad enough with a sql database, i don't need all that extra freedom | 19:02 |
| brousch | and i'm not saying that sarcastically | 19:02 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyvodTwy2Ek <- MongoDB | 19:02 |
| Wolfger | man you people are chatty today. Like it's a holiday-shortened week or something.... | 19:04 |
| brousch | snap-l: that video blew out my eardrums | 19:05 |
| brousch | i'll send you the bill for a hearing aid | 19:05 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2fD-hYVLxE | 19:05 |
| snap-l | brousch: I listened to it with the sound off. ;) | 19:05 |
| greg-g | Wolfger: thank god it is | 19:06 |
| brousch | i win! | 19:07 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7VHcuaPCg | 19:08 |
| brousch | hey, awesome, you can now get unlimited dropbox storage for only $800/yr https://www.dropbox.com/teams/pricing | 21:06 |
| rick_h_ | my backups problems are solved! amen! | 21:06 |
| brousch | i'm moving my backups to crashplan, cutting back on my dropbox | 21:07 |
| snap-l | $800 a year? | 21:27 |
| snap-l | I'm at $120 a year in monthly installments. | 21:27 |
| snap-l | For $800 a year, I could buy a few drives and try to house them offsite. | 21:29 |
| brousch | yeah, it is silly | 21:30 |
| brousch | ubuntuone has better pricing | 21:34 |
| brousch | too bad it's not reliable | 21:34 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
