[00:00] <ermo> jesse__: *thumbs up*
[00:00] <fellayaboy> how can i create a link their that will execute to whereever the file is on the pc
[00:00] <ermo> well, I'm off. Cheers!
[00:00] <sprayy> fellayaboy, does your whateverprogram have a flag to specify the location of the .conf file
[00:00] <sprayy> Like ./whateverprogram --conf=~/configure.conf
[00:00] <fellayaboy> i think so
[00:00] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: What program are you actually trying to use?
[00:00] <jesse__> ermo^: Exactly
[00:01] <GhostWolf> robro ok thanks
[00:01] <fellayaboy> none in particular i just want to do this for future referenece but im using mupen64 that i downloaded from the site which is just a folder with the files in it
[00:01] <jesse__> ermo: Thanks again
[00:01] <robro_> GhostWolf, No problem :)
[00:02] <yggdrasil> ermo guess that patch wouldnt do much for this old ass laptop
[00:02] <yggdrasil> doesnt have pcie or anything
[00:02] <yggdrasil> just an old dell.
[00:02] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: Just run "sudo apt-get install mupen64plus" (which, by the way, is better than mupen64). Manually installing things is generally to be avoided, and will be different depending on the individual application so there is no general solution.
[00:03] <fellayaboy> Jordan_U,  i understand but im not really trying to install mupen....im usign it as an example in case i find another program out their thats not in the repos i want to learn how to do this
[00:04] <arduino_mex> oh i missed IRC so muuucchh!!
[00:04] <fellayaboy> i coudl just dump all the files in local/bin and it will probably work but thats too messy..theirs folders and conf files and png files etc
[00:04] <Jordan_U> fellayaboy: Like I said before, there is no general solution. What would work for mupen64 would not work for 95% of other applications.
[00:05] <fellayaboy> right..ok
[00:05] <arduino_mex> is there anyone that can explain to me what a kernel is?
[00:06] <bastidrazor> arduino_mex: don't be silly.
[00:06] <ikonia> arduino_mex: it's the thing that controls the linux operating system
[00:06] <ikonia> arduino_mex: it IS linux
[00:06] <arduino_mex> im serious i get around things pretty well but i would like to understand it profoundly
[00:06] <ikonia> arduino_mex: just told you what it is
[00:07] <arduino_mex> thanks
[00:07] <arduino_mex> so the kernel is between the person and the OS correct?
[00:07] <frotz47> In computing, the kernel is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level.
[00:07] <ikonia> arduino_mex: it IS the OS
[00:07] <Skummel> arduino_mex if you want to understand what a kernal is and what it does, I would suggest you start reading up on Operating systems.
[00:07] <ikonia> arduino_mex: quick google will give you the info you want
[00:08] <ikonia> you're a bit beyond the scope of this channel
[00:08] <arduino_mex> ok
[00:08] <arduino_mex> sorry for bothering
[00:08] <ikonia> not a bother
[00:08] <arduino_mex> is there a book you know i could read
[00:09] <ikonia> arduino_mex: quick google will give you the info
[00:09] <Thiagovfar> Is there a standard way to add /usr/sbin to the PATH?
[00:09] <ikonia> Thiagovfar: it should be already
[00:09] <Thiagovfar> ikonia: for root, it is, for normal users, it's not.
[00:09] <ikonia> Thiagovfar: you shouldn't be using root - it's a locked account
[00:10] <ikonia> Thiagovfar: you should be usig sudo
[00:10] <ikonia> using
[00:10] <Thiagovfar> ikonia: crap, wrong channel
[00:10] <Thiagovfar> sorry for that
[00:10] <ikonia> not a problem
[00:11] <sprayy> Thiagovfar,  export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin
[00:11] <sprayy> That appends /usr/sbin to your current $PATH
[00:11] <arduino_mex> may i ask what is the purpose of this channel? like what sorto of questions are allowed
[00:11] <Thiagovfar> sprayy: Thanks
[00:11] <ikonia> arduino_mex: ubuntu technical support
[00:11] <arduino_mex> gotcha
[00:11] <Severian> On Ubuntu 10.04, is there a way to completely rebuild database of installed packages?  I had a corrupt /var/lib/dpkg/status.  I deleted it, which was probably a mistake.  Now, synaptic wants to install a bunch of packages thare are already there.
[00:11] <arduino_mex> tthxs
[00:12] <Jordan_U> ikonia: To put what Thiagovfar said another way, "kvm-ok" will not work as a normal user, but "sudo kvm-ok" will, even though kvm-ok does not require root priveleges (but is in /usr/sbin/).
[00:12] <sprayy> If you want it permanent, add that line to your shell profile.  In my case it's /etc/profile for all users, or just ~/.profile for your user
[00:13] <ikonia> Jordan_U: totally missed what you're saying, sorry
[00:13] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Try running "kvm-ok" as a normal user in Ubuntu 11.10.
[00:13] <ikonia> Jordan_U: not got access to ubuntu at the moment
[00:14] <bastidrazor> cpu-checker is not installed
[00:14] <Jordan_U> ikonia: On my machine I get "kvm-ok: command not found", while "/usr/sbin/kvm-ok" runs successfully, as does "sudo kvm-ok". Becuase /usr/sbin/ is included in root's $PATH, but not a normal user's.
[00:15] <whoever> i am trying to locate javajdk , and which jdk whick javajdk returns nothing
[00:15] <three18ti> hey, can anyone help me with orchestra please?
[00:16] <three18ti> hello, can someone please help me with orchestra?
[00:16] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Which illustrates the problem, and shows that it has to do with $PATH being different for the root account without ever logging in as root.
[00:16] <worrow> just got ubuntu up and running and removed unity completely and made gnome classic my default.
[00:16] <Stanley00> whoever: try "which javac" java jdk is not a program, I think
[00:16] <ikonia> i'll take your word on it
[00:16] <JoshR1> Thanks for the help guys.
[00:16] <Stanley00> !anyone | three18ti
[00:16] <worrow> removed nautilus and installed pcmanfm and was wondering if I need to make it default in some sort of settings?
[00:17] <worrow> brb
[00:18] <three18ti> Stanley00, thanks, that was not my first attempt asking though... I have gone from extremely specific to extremely general, and you are the first to even acknowledge my existence...  I thought I was talking to myself.
[00:18] <Stanley00> three18ti: just ask your real question here and wait, if someone knew the answer, they will answer you.
[00:19] <worrow> ok so anyways, does someone have an answer to my question?
[00:19] <whoever> Stanley00: which javac doesnt return anything
[00:19] <untitled_only> I'm back people
[00:19] <worrow> when replacing nautilus with pcmanfm do I need to make something say it is now the default manager?
[00:19] <Stanley00> whoever: are you sure you have installed java jdk?
[00:20] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install, does cron do anything vital to the stability of the system or can I just disable it?
[00:20] <three18ti> Stanley00, how many times should I ask the same question?  Based on your logic (ask and if someone knows they will answer), then no one knows how to reset the orchestra login...  doesn't seem likely to me.
[00:20] <whoever> Stanley00: ues i can comfile and run java
[00:20] <untitled_only> Do not go see the immortals. 300 fake
[00:20] <worrow> who is skilled with gnome classic?
[00:21] <three18ti> Hello, how do I reset the Orchestra login?  I reset the cobbler login, but this does not seem to affect the orchestra web login.  Thanks.
[00:21] <JoshR1> Immortals was good.
[00:21] <brjannc> severian: possibly check out answer #4 on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4834/how-do-i-rebuild-a-corrupt-dpkg-status-file
[00:21] <Stanley00> patience
[00:21] <JoshR1> An interesting take on Theseus.
[00:21] <robin0800> worrow: ask your question
[00:21] <Stanley00> !patience | three18ti
[00:21] <untitled_only> I thought it ok, but didn't live up to the hype
[00:22] <Stanley00> whoever: it looks likely you have installed java jre, not java jdk
[00:22] <worrow> how do I remove the bottom taskbar? I have one at the top and one at the bottom.
[00:22] <worrow> I want to move the top one to the bottom and remove the one on the bottom
[00:22] <robin0800> worrow: hold alt and right click
[00:23] <Stanley00> worrow: what's your ubuntu version? I think just simple right click, remove will do it
[00:23] <three18ti> Stanley00, thanks for the words of encouragement...
[00:23] <worrow> rob: 11.10
[00:23] <whoever> Stanley00: if i want a perminant export stick the lines in /etc/bash/.bashrc or ~.bashrc
[00:23] <lan3y> whoever ~/.bashrc
[00:23] <worrow> Rob: that worked wonderfully.
[00:23] <worrow> Rob: next question is about nautilus
[00:24] <Stanley00> whoever: it depends on how you want to export, /etc/bash/.bashrc for system wide
[00:24] <konam> worrow have you tried nautilus elementary?
[00:24] <Stanley00> whoever: and ~.bashrc just for your account
[00:24] <braintorch> Hello. How do I change default application for "ftp://" urls in 11.10?
[00:24] <worrow> I removed nautilus as it was sooo slow
[00:25] <worrow> I installed pcmanfm
[00:25] <worrow> should everything just continue working?
[00:25] <whoever> Stanley00: ok, i just aptitude search jdk and openjdk 7 and openjre 7 are installed
[00:26] <Osmodivs> Hello, Is there something to connect to a remote computer? But something as easy as TeamViewrer
[00:26] <ActionPa1snip> worrow: Should be ok, I suggest you add the lubuntu ppa if you use pcmanfm
[00:26] <whoever> braintorch: right click properties
[00:26] <whoever> open with
[00:26] <jrib> Osmodivs: ssh or vnc
[00:26] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: vino is in a default install
[00:26] <Osmodivs> vino, I'll try that
[00:26] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: many apps have web interfaces too :)
[00:27] <worrow> i'm on ubuntu though
[00:27] <Osmodivs> ActionPa1snip: So, what do you recommend?
[00:27] <worrow> I will transfer some things and test
[00:27] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: depends what you are doing on the remote system.
[00:28] <Stanley00> whoever: you mean openjdk was installed? It's strange, but what is your real question?
[00:28] <Osmodivs> Configure a PC, basic stuff on synaptic
[00:28] <brjannc> Osmodivs: just use teamviewer, if you like it
[00:28] <schime> good evening guys! Im trying to delete a partition here, but it tells me: Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 8. The partition Im trying to delete is "sda8" (not over 8) and its not mounted :S Do they mean that i have to unmount my home and root folder that im using for ubuntu now when im writing even if thats not the partition i want to delete?
[00:28] <lupus__> Hi, my Ubuntu won't reconnect my iPad. Why ?
[00:28] <schime> Sorry for a long text...
[00:28] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install, does cron do anything vital to the stability of the system or can I just disable it?
[00:29] <Osmodivs> ActionPa1snip: I remember connecting with x11vnc, but I don remember how. I mean, I read the wiki, but I just can't do all that password stuff
[00:30] <WanderingEnder> Question: What is the advantage of using a network bridge (br0 interface) to iptables NAT?
[00:30] <WanderingEnder> Or, rather, why use the bridge-utils at all?
[00:30] <braintorch> whoever: I know how to change preffered application for file type. Question is how to change preffered application for a _url_ type. Let's say someone post ftp link in IRC. ftp://kernel.org for example. I click it and it opens in firefox. How do I change that?
[00:30] <Severian> brjannc, Thank you.  That seems to have done what I need.  Synaptic is back to installing updates.
[00:30] <Osmodivs> brjannc: Well, I wanted to use something lighter
[00:30] <Osmodivs> I use Lubuntu, you know?
[00:31] <Stanley00> schime: are your home and root on sda too?
[00:31] <brjannc> Severian: glad to hear it :)
[00:31] <brjannc> Osmodivs: ah, understood
[00:31] <schime> stanley00 yes they are
[00:31] <Stanley00> schime: then, I recommend you use a liveUSB to delete the partition.
[00:31] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: so updates basically? and installs?
[00:31] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: is that all?
[00:32] <schime> stanley00 i have 3 OSes w7, ubuntu 11.10 and linux mint 11 (thats the partitions im trying to delete)
[00:32] <Osmodivs> Yeah, I want to know what's hapening in my brotheres PC, 1000 miles away
[00:32] <whoever> braintorch: don't know i think it opens in default browser
[00:32] <braintorch> nope.
[00:32] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: you can update with ssh in a terminal using apt-get
[00:32] <c00p> anyone have a good link on installing ubuntu on a Mac Mini
[00:32] <schime> stanley00 do u think it would work delete them in the installation of a new OS? (pinguy OS)
[00:33] <braintorch> "http://" urls opens in default browser
[00:33] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: you can read the output of: ps -ef | less     and see what processes are running and such
[00:33] <braintorch> "ftp://" opens in firefox for some reason.
[00:33] <Osmodivs> ActionPa1snip: Openshh?
[00:33] <Stanley00> schime: some OS installer will, as Ubuntu's.
[00:34] <Guest44801> can anyone help me get my wifi card to be detected on wireshark? I have ubuntu 11.10
[00:34] <Severian> braintorch, That would be because they designed it to handle ftp sites.
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: install openssh-server and you can connect to port 22 using putty (Windows) or run:  ssh user@server   in Linux
[00:34] <schime> stanley00 okey, pinguy OS is based on ubuntu so might work then
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: if you are external to the LAN you are connecting to you will need to setup port forwarding or virtual server in your router, to allow the traffic through
[00:34] <Osmodivs> ActionPa1snip: Does the other PC needs to have Openssh?
[00:34] <brjannc> three18ti: have you tried asking your orchestra question in #ubuntu-server?
[00:34] <Stanley00> schime: I hope so.
[00:34] <schime> stanley00 ill try that first before the liveUSB. thx! might come back.. :P
[00:34] <Stanley00> schime: :)
[00:34] <Severian> braintorch, Maybe I misunderstood.  Are you asking why nautilus would use firefox to open ftp?
[00:35] <ActionPa1snip> Osmodivs: the system you are connecting to will need openssh-server installed
[00:35] <Stanley00> Guest44801: and did you run wireshark as root?
[00:36] <brjannc> three18ti: one of the orchestra devs' blogs notes that about a dozen ubuntu developers with orchestra experience hang out there, so you might have more luck :)
 haha i just found that... is there anyway to make it so i dont have to every time?
[00:37] <JoshR1> So how can I do the SSH/sftp on windows?
[00:37] <Stanley00> Guest44801: you can edit the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
 dose that work in unity?
[00:37] <theborger> hey is there an alsa 1.0.24 pkg for 2.6.32-25 pae?
[00:38] <braintorch> Severian: my case is why pidgin use firefox to open ftp. But anyway there must be some option in the deepest of gtk3 or gnome or whatever rules by how urls handled in gtk applications.
[00:38] <Stanley00> Guest44801: yep, the file is wireshark.desktop
[00:38] <brontosaurusrex> JoshR1, winscp, putty
[00:38] <lupus__> Hi, my Ubuntu won't reconnect my iPad. Why ?
 Ok, what should i cahnge?
[00:38] <Stanley00> Guest44801: add gksu in the exec line :D
[00:38] <xangua> lupus__: want to mount the sd¿ what iOS version do you use¿
[00:38] <Stanley00> Guest44801: it will lokk like this "Exec=gksu wireshark"
 gimme a few and ill find out how it works...
 i need root privledges to edit..
[00:41] <worrow> Ok I am transferring some files from usb to hd and I minimized the window and it disappeared
[00:41] <JoshR1> sudo -s
[00:41] <worrow> how do I get it back?
[00:42] <lupus__> Hi, my Ubuntu won't reconnect my iPad. Why ?
[00:42] <NDPMacBookPro> lupus__: Connect in what way?
[00:43] <lupus__> NDPMACBOOKPRO: recognize, sorry
 somehow i cant edit it... the filename i found was just "wireshark" with the logo
[00:44] <Severian> braintorch.  according to a few references, that is a gnome setting.  I don't know where it is now that we have moved to gnome 3 libraries under Unity.
[00:44] <braintorch> Found it. If anybody anybody interested here's the way to change how urls handled from 11.04: http://jarrpa.net/2011/10/28/creating-custom-url-handlers-in-ubuntu-11-04-11-10-gnome-3-0/
[00:45] <worrow> where would my autostart folder be located?
[00:45] <Stanley00> Guest44801: try running "gksu gedit /usr/share/applications/wireshark.desktop"
[00:45] <braintorch> for user-wide configuration /usr/share/applications duplicated in ~/.local/share/applications
 its blank...
[00:46] <lupus__> NDPMACBOOKPRO: any idea?
[00:46] <NDPMacBookPro> lupus__: Sorry no. What software are you using to connect to the iPad?
[00:46] <lupus__> no software
[00:46] <Stanley00> Guest44801: just a min...
[00:47] <Guest44801> lupus_ what version of ubuntu?
[00:47] <lupus__> only trying to get it recognized by ubuntu
[00:47] <lupus__> 11.10
[00:47] <Guest44801> lupus_ well, there goes that idea
[00:47] <xangua> lupus__: how about you answer people trying to help you¿ again: want to mount SD¿ what ubuntu version do you use¿ what iOS version do you use¿
[00:47] <ActionPa1snip> lupus__: when you connect it, run:  dmesg | tail -n 10    it may give clues
[00:47] <worrow> I'm waiting in line for some aid
[00:47] <theborger> anyone tell me how to upgrade also to 1.0.24 with the pae kernel?
[00:48] <Guest44801> lupus, you could always get a virtual machine... thats what i used for years...
[00:48] <Stanley00> Guest44801: I cant be, you installed wireshark from Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:48] <ActionPa1snip> theborger: there is an audio dev ppa
[00:48] <lupus__> xangua sorry. 11.10
[00:48] <lupus__> don't know what ios
[00:48] <lupus__> how can i check?
[00:48] <lupus__> new ipad
[00:48] <theborger> ActionPa1snip: can you point me to a readme?
[00:48] <FloodBot1> lupus__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <lupus__> virtual machine? how to do it ?
[00:48] <theborger> ActionPa1snip: i followed this http://jaysdesktop.blogspot.com/2011/10/enabling-hdmi-audio-out-in-ubuntu-1004.html and it is not working
[00:48] <ActionPa1snip> theborger: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:48] <xangua> lupus__: well if you can't mount it, and it's brand new it probably uses iOS 5
 yeah, i think the .desktop and shit was changed from gnome...
[00:49] <ubuntu> ok?
[00:49] <lupus__> yes, it's the latest ios xang
[00:49] <theborger> ActionPa1snip: that is going to install all the new pkg if i run upgrade all i need is alsa
[00:49] <Stanley00> Guest44801: are you sure you type the file path correct?
[00:49] <FusionX> I don't know what happened but I can no longer boot into ubuntu and booting into recovery console says "whiptail command not found" and now most of the commands don't work (like sudo).
[00:50] <FusionX> using normal boot, the screen goes blank
[00:50] <xangua> lupus__: go to Software Center - Edit - Sources and enable Proposed and Backports Updates, see if there is a "libimoviledevide" update....if there IS upgrade and Be Happy
[00:50] <lupus__> ActionPalsnip: it says new USB using ehci_hcd
 positive... when i was installing voodoo the guy that helped me told me he didn't know how to help me create a shorcut because the .desktop files changed with unity
[00:51] <lupus__> there is no uppgrade xangua
[00:52] <xangua> lupus__: did you run update manager and reload to see if there is one¿¿
[00:52] <theborger> ActionPa1snip: that is going to install all the new pkg if i run upgrade all i need is alsa
[00:52] <xangua> after enabling proposed and backport updates lupus__ ¿
 guess ill just make a .sh and put a logo on it and place it on my launcher
[00:52] <FusionX> Is it possible to repair or restore ubuntu as in Windows (follow-up to previous question)?
[00:52] <Stanley00> Guest44801: It's not changed much, I still use template to create a desktop file as I need it
[00:53] <n4dsp> what is the command to find the files for a program I run?
 humm idk
[00:53] <n4dsp> the files may be in a couple of directorys
[00:54] <Stanley00> Guest44801: here is my template, in case you want it http://paste.ubuntu.com/744860/
[00:54] <xangua> Guest44801: it depends, if you have your home partiton apart you could reinstall without loosing your documents
 Thanks, that helps alot...
[00:55] <xangua> what I said above was for FusionX ;)
[00:55] <NDPMacBookPro> Thats been the 1 thing holding me back from using Linux full time
[00:55] <NDPMacBookPro> The lack of something as good as Windows Restore or Apple's Time Machine
[00:55] <Guest44801> xangua: Unfortionatly, i dont
[00:55] <Stanley00> Guest44801: and about the wireshark.desktop, did you edit it?
[00:56] <Guest44801> Stanley00: workin on it
[00:57] <braintorch> Guest44801: here's wireshark.desktop : http://pastebin.com/P3SGUnyU
[00:57] <edolnx> Greetings - virt-manager doesn't seem to complete a quem+ssh connection in 11.10, is there an updated version somewhere?
[00:57] <bsmith093> if im halfway through cloning a git repo, and i kill it, does it clean up after itself
[00:57] <braintorch> it is almost identical to origin. Just edited it to launch with gksudo
[00:57] <FusionX> xangua: ??
[00:58] <Guest44801> braintorch: do i need to edit any of that?
[00:58] <Stanley00> Guest44801: here is my wireshark.desktop, added gksu, you can put it in ~/.local/share/applications too
[00:59] <robertzaccour> Is there a way to make my laptop with Ubuntu a media server for my ps3?
[00:59] <Stanley00> Guest44801: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744865/
[01:00] <Guest44801> Stanley00: briantorch beat you too it lol... i jsut gotta put it in my app folder
[01:01] <Guest44801> Stanley00: thanks a bunch...
[01:01] <Stanley00> Guest44801: you are welcome :)
[01:03] <tkendrick> Hi I've got a reasonably straightforward question about accomplishing something at the command line. Not sure if this is the right room to ask though.
[01:03] <Guest44801> Stanley00 and briantorch: thank you both very much...
[01:03] <tkendrick> Not sure if it has to be ubuntu specific.
[01:04] <braintorch> Guest44801: I just was fixing similar problem. :)
[01:04] <jrib> tkendrick: what do you think is going to happen next? ;)
[01:04] <Guest44801> briantorch: i never knew about that the applications folder automaticly shows up in the unity search
[01:06] <user__> ;imked
[01:06] <Stanley00> Guest44801: haha, you have to use the desktop file from braintorch, cause mine wont work at all. LOL
[01:07] <Icehawk78> Is there an equivalent script that is run upon logout/shutdown/reboot akin to /etc/rc.local for logging in?
[01:07] <Guest44801> Stanley00: lol good thing i did...
[01:08] <braintorch> Guest44801: neither I. Though I don't use Unity. I disabled it and use Compiz + awn + Cardapio combo.
[01:08] <Stanley00> Guest44801: I didnt know that if tryexec is equal to exec, it wont run... smartly =))
[01:08] <three18ti> robertzaccour, I use ushare with this config file:  http://pastebin.com/BL3fYMgr
[01:08] <ablyss> Icehawk78: for logins .bashrc
[01:09] <three18ti> robertzaccour: the config file says to use dpkg-reconfigure, but I use nano and just restart ushare, it works for both my PS3 and XBox360
[01:09] <Icehawk78> ablyss: No, for log-out. I apparently have to do some weird stuff with my switchable graphics card or else it will run the fan at full speed before shutting down, but I don't especially want to have to run a bash script to shut down my machine rather than using the built in controls
[01:09] <tkendrick> I've got a text file full of data, single column. I need to lower the precision of the numbers and output it to a new file. Not sure how to go about it.
[01:10] <reokie> Does anyone know if it is possible to make an animated GDM login screen?
[01:11] <jrib> tkendrick: if you have a favorite scripting language, I would use that.  Do you /really/ want to do it using only bash?
[01:11] <Icehawk78> tkendrick: Or you could likely use libreoffice calc
[01:12] <tkendrick> I'm trying to do it over an ssh tunnel i should mention sorry.
[01:12] <ablyss> what do u mean by "lower the precision"
[01:12] <tkendrick> lose sig figs
[01:13] <tkendrick> I'm not really a scripter i'm afraid, fairly new to this whole buisness, but libreoffice would take a lot of copy and pasting
[01:14] <tkendrick> just wondering if there was a standard program that has this sort of function.
[01:15] <WanderingEnder> Yay, my new ubuntu server router is operational.
[01:15] <Icehawk78> tkendrick: From a shell, you'd be looking at probably putting it through a one liner python/ruby script, but that's more relevent to the respective languages.
[01:16] <tkendrick> i was playing with awk but i couldn't figure it out.
[01:16] <Icehawk78> wAh, that too
[01:16] <three18ti> tkrndrick, what does your data file look like?
[01:17] <tkendrick> bout 30000 lines of numbers each about 9 sig figs
[01:17] <tkendrick> need to reduce it to maybe 4
[01:18] <three18ti> tkendrick, is it just a single real number with decimal, or is it a 9 digit integer, or?  What I'm trying to get at is, how does each line look?
[01:19] <jrib> tkendrick: you haven't answered my question but assuming you don't want to use some scripting language like python or perl and want to stick with bash, you can do this easily using the 'printf' command
[01:19] <tkendrick> single real numbers forry
[01:19] <crassus> Is there a reason for sudo apt-get update to not update, and for Update Manager to post that it hasn't been updated for days/weeks even though I try to update every time it pops up?
[01:20] <tkendrick> i see, sorry jrib, I'm really not familiar with any scripting languages, or much bash either truth  be told
[01:21] <WanderingEnder> Can you set someone's login shell to screen's executable?
[01:22] <jrib> tkendrick: here are some teaser commands to get you started: « printf '%.3f\n' 123.45678 », « while x in 1 2 3; do echo $x; done » (you'll want to use « read » to read in a line from your file but this is just an example of a while loop)
[01:22] <braintorch> tkendrick: look at bc app
[01:25] <ActionPa1snip> tkendrick: you could count the length and display the first 4, then subtract 4 from the length and display that many extra 0s
[01:25] <jrib> ActionPa1snip: it depends on whether tkendrick wants to truncate or round though
[01:25] <tkendrick> round ideally
[01:25] <ActionPa1snip> jrib: I gues
[01:25] <brjannc> tkendrick: can't you open that file in libreoffice as CSV, since it's only one column?
[01:25] <jrib> tkendrick: my printf suggestion will round
[01:25] <ActionPa1snip> tkendrick: could ask in #bash
[01:26] <ActionPa1snip> jrib: sweet
[01:26] <tkendrick> Hehe yep i'm trying to get my head around the bash script thing :)
[01:27] <jrib> tkendrick: if you get stuck and just need it done, I don't mind giving you the one-liner but just figured you wanted to play a bit with it
[01:27] <tkendrick> Hehe not really I'm trying to do this to get a another program with no documentation to play nicely really :)
[01:27] <theborger> how many GB of ram will th e-pae kernel suport up to?
[01:28] <vuarabei> anybody?
[01:29] <jrib> theborger: not really meaning you don't want to play?
[01:29] <jrib> vuarabei: many bodies
[01:29] <ActionPa1snip> theborger: 64Gb
[01:29] <theborger> yea reading it now
[01:29] <vuarabei> i have some problam with english so be patient
[01:29] <vuarabei> i install alien arena from source
[01:30] <vuarabei> then i want to delete it
[01:30] <jrib> vuarabei: ok, try to write everything on a single line
[01:30] <theborger> ActionPa1snip: got alsa working i was on 2.6.32-35 there is no alsa 1.0.24 for -35
[01:30] <tkendrick> My brains already melted from getting that data in the first place :) So ideally no
[01:30] <vuarabei> i find all files(about 900 mb) and delete them
[01:30] <tkendrick> Its from MD simulations
[01:30] <vuarabei> but it dont give free space on my disks
[01:30] <vuarabei> why
[01:30] <jrib> tkendrick: you can do something like this: while read -r line; do printf '%.3f\n' $line; done < infile > outfile            change '3' to the new number of decimal places
[01:31] <theborger> where there is no alsa out for -35 i have no idea expecially if that is what ubuntu defalts to when u update kernels right now
[01:33] <usr13> vuarabei: df |pastebinit
[01:33] <vuarabei> anybody?
[01:33] <stryke297> i just installed ubuntu and i dont really know how to use it....
[01:33] <vuarabei> usr13: what is it?
[01:33] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: could ask in #git   maybe
[01:34] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: explore, its an OS just like any other with web browsers and office productivity amongst other apps
[01:34] <usr13> vuarabei: compare df  and df -i
[01:34] <tkendrick> I think I'm in over my head a wee bit, not really following unfortunately. Might just have to suck it up and do it with libre
[01:34] <usr13>  df - report file system disk space usage
[01:34] <usr13>  -i, --inodes
[01:34] <jrib> tkendrick: what are you confused about?
[01:34] <tkendrick> Thanks for your help anyway, I'm sure you're correct I'm just really not that familiar with the command line.
[01:35] <jrib> tkendrick: run the first two hints I gave you so you understand what the simple parts do
[01:35] <stryke297> i dont know how my existing programs with it or task and process managing
[01:35] <tkendrick> wait hang on
[01:35] <tkendrick> I think i got it :)
[01:36] <vuarabei> 1
[01:36] <vuarabei> 2
[01:36] <vuarabei> 3
[01:36] <vuarabei> 4
[01:36] <vuarabei> 5
[01:36] <FloodBot1> vuarabei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <vuarabei> 6
[01:36] <tkendrick> ah thanks mate you're a legend
[01:36] <tkendrick> That will save me a ton of time :)
[01:36] <stryke297> how to use .exe with ubuntu?
[01:37] <vuarabei> use wine
[01:37] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: try wine, what app is it?
[01:37] <qin> !wine | stryke297
[01:37] <vuarabei> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744875/
[01:38] <stryke297>  sweet, thanks a ton.  what about process and task management
[01:38] <vuarabei> usr13:http://paste.ubuntu.com/744875/
[01:38] <usr13> vuarabei: Is that du?  Or du -i?
[01:39] <vuarabei> du
[01:39] <vuarabei> without i
[01:39] <vuarabei> its df
[01:39] <usr13> vuarabei: What kind of install is it?
[01:40] <vuarabei> what u mean
[01:40] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: you can use: ps, top or gnome-system-monitor
[01:40] <vuarabei> install of what
[01:40] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: considering you are just starting out on the OS, I wouldn't worry too much about that
[01:40] <usr13> vuarabei: What operating system do you have installed?  What filesytem type is it?
[01:40] <vuarabei> oh
[01:40] <vuarabei> xubuntu
[01:40] <usr13> vuarabei: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[01:41] <stryke297> i feel like i have a lot of processer lag and applications lag...
[01:41] <usr13> Let's have a look...
[01:41] <meomic> hey guys is there someone with the newest ubuntu? i mean 11.10? can some of you with that ubuntu tell me what output you have of terminal-> metacity -- version ? cuz i have 11.04 and i cant live with that memory leak anymore - i want to know if its same in newest
[01:42] <vuarabei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/744876/
[01:42] <paulo_cv> meomic: metacity 2.34.1
[01:42] <vuarabei> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744876/
[01:43] <paulo_cv> meomic: ubuntu 11.10
[01:43] <meomic> paulo_cv: 2.30.3 here.... are you using metacity or compiz? if metacity can tell me if you see memory leak there? i mean my xorg is 600 mb now and metacity about 300-400 after 10 days or so
[01:43] <usr13> vuarabei: So this is a wubi install?
[01:43] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: which video chip do you use?
[01:43] <three18ti> tkendrick, not sure if I'm too late, but here is a perl one liner I hacked together to solve your problem.
[01:44] <vuarabei> usr13: yes
[01:44] <usr13> I C
[01:44] <vuarabei> im not good on linux so i decide start from wubi
[01:44] <three18ti> tkendrick, see this pastebin, http://pastebin.com/SFnREEgR
[01:44] <stryke297> nvidia 8800 gtx oc
[01:45] <usr13> vuarabei: Well, as you can see, you are maxed out.  I don't know much about wubi, but I do know this:  Your filesystem is full-up.  You need to make some changes.
[01:46] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: did you install the proprietary nvida driver? run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:47] <vuarabei> usr13: but why it like this
[01:47] <usr13> vuarabei: Maybe someone on here knows a little about wubi and can help you. I know about Linux, but not much about wubi
[01:47] <stryke297> probably not i installed a graphics driver. how to pull up command line
[01:47] <vuarabei> usr13: i delete alien arena and other stuff i must to have anought space
[01:47] <dragly> A quick question: Are the intel graphics drivers open sourced?
[01:47] <vuarabei> ok i describe  my problam
[01:48] <ActionPa1snip> stryke297: press CTRL+ALT+T
[01:48] <usr13> vuarabei has full [wubi] filesytem.  See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744875/  Please help him.
[01:48] <szal> dragly: yes
[01:48] <vuarabei> problam is when i delete alien arena game and loxal repro( together it abot 1.5gb) it dont add a free space to me
[01:48] <usr13> vuarabei: What is alien arena?
[01:48] <dragly> szal: Thanks. Do you happen to know how they compare to Nvidia and ATi in terms of stability on Ubuntu?
[01:49] <vuarabei> it is linux game
[01:49] <vuarabei> based on quake 2 and 3 code
[01:49] <brjannc> vuarabei: Did you perhaps delete it from the file manager, and not empty the trash?
[01:49] <stryke297> im using androirc right now will check it out later.
[01:49] <vuarabei> i empty trash and reboot system
[01:50] <urlin2u> vuarabei, you clean the trash?
[01:50] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: why not just use software centre?
[01:50] <Severian> vuarabei, Is your problem that you are out of disk space for Linux?
[01:50] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: or playdeb
[01:50] <vuarabei> ye i also use blrachbit
[01:50] <urlin2u> vuarabei, your not running in root are you in ubuntu?
[01:51] <vuarabei> ActionPa1snip: it dont work when i install from center so i make it from source
[01:51] <szal> dragly: no, I've been using Nvidia for 7 years straight
[01:51] <A2Sheds> anyone know where to put a script in 10.04 LTS to kill dpms and screensaver blanking? xset -dpms works from command line but adding it to "Startup Applications" doesn't seem to work
[01:51] <vuarabei> urlin2u: maybe i dunno))
[01:52] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: which release are you using?
[01:52] <dragly> szal: Pretty much same here. Looking for a new laptop and thought I should choose with high emphasis on compatibility for once :)
[01:52] <vuarabei> Severian my problam is that after install program i have 400 mb free space after delete program i still have 400
[01:53] <dragly> Have had some variable experiences with both Nvidia and ATi, although not as much lately.
[01:53] <usr13> vuarabei: lsb_release -a   #And tell us what release you have.
[01:53] <vuarabei> ActionPa1snip: xubuntu 11.10
[01:53] <worrow> I need a hand making setting up autologin as I didn't select it on install
[01:53] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744884/
[01:54] <vuarabei> o LSB modules are available.
[01:54] <vuarabei> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:54] <vuarabei> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[01:54] <vuarabei> Release:	11.10
[01:54] <vuarabei> Codename:	oneiric
[01:54] <FloodBot1> vuarabei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: getdeb has a later version than the repos, may help
[01:54] <meomic> is there a way to make someone to upstream this patch/bug? - patch been applied by user almost in the september - and its still noe yet in the tree! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/774740 how long you wany me to have this memory leak zzzzzz
[01:54] <worrow> how do I setup autologin?>
[01:55] <vuarabei> ActionPa1snip: i delete it manually
[01:55] <worrow> in the autostart folder is there anything I have to leave there?
[01:55] <dragly> worrow: I think it is under User Accounts
[01:55] <Severian> vuarabei, I can't tell from what you just said.  The program may not be very big.  If  you reinstall it, you can open synaptic, look at properties and see where the program is installed.  Then, remove it and check the location you just found to see that the files were deleted.
[01:56] <dragly> worrow: But for some reason my gnome-control-center crashes on me now, so I can't check.
[01:56] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: cd; wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i .//playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm .//playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install alien-arena
[01:56] <vuarabei> Severian: i make it before write here
[01:57] <worrow> dragly, thanks
[01:57] <Severian> meomic, you could hire someone and task them to upstream.  Linux is largely a volunteer effort and you don't make people do things.
[01:57] <dragly> worrow: no problem ;)
[01:57] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: they have a handy deb to add their ppa :)
[01:57] <vuarabei> ActionPa1snip: i dont need this game)) i dont understand why after i delete it no free space add
[01:57] <Severian> vuarabei, I have no idea what that last statement meant.
[01:57] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: not sure there dude
[01:58] <vuarabei> ))
[01:58] <WanderingEnder> Sounds like vuarabei wants to delete a pacakge and expects space on his drive to free afterwards, Severian.
[01:58] <vuarabei> so after i install AA i have 400 mb free space///after i delete AA i still have only 400 mb free space///that is my problam
[01:59] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: does a reboot help?
[01:59] <Severian> It usually does delete space.  Often, it does not free much space.
[01:59] <vuarabei> also i delete local repo from usr/cash/arhive and no free space added too
[01:59] <meomic> Severian: dont get me wrong but ubuntu is aiming to be a foundation and it manages the ubuntu, patch bas been made by the community in the september - why its still not in the tree? how long it will be stalled there? this is getting ridicolous and makes me want to go out from linux -- too bad theres no other way to go...
[01:59] <vuarabei> no i reboot 3 times
[01:59] <usr13> worrow: "Login Sceen"
[01:59] <meomic> i mean canonical
[01:59] <usr13> worrow: "Login Sceen Settings"
[02:00] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: does this help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/307828/git-remove-file-accidentally-added-to-the-repository
[02:00] <robin0800> vuarabei: did you empty the rubbish bin
[02:00] <Severian> meomic, The person who owns that program must not think it is important, or they have other priorities.  I don't know what package, so I am guessing.
[02:00] <vuarabei> what is rubish bin?
[02:00] <worrow> usr13, ya user accounts isn't letting me change to autologin
[02:01] <vuarabei> i install it from tar gz archive
[02:01] <meomic> Severian: not importand? 1 gb of memory leaked in a week is not important? hah nice one
[02:01] <worrow> usr13, for sure from login screen?
[02:01] <vuarabei> after install i find it and delete
[02:01] <Severian> vuarabei, rubbish bin is what the English call the trash can.
[02:01] <vuarabei> oh))
[02:01] <vuarabei> ye im no so stupid)
[02:01] <vuarabei> it dont appear in trash
[02:02] <vuarabei> i dunno why
[02:02] <hemangpatel> why ubuntu 11.10 said to be "(Oneiric Ocelot" ?
[02:02] <worrow> brb changing autologon
[02:02] <ActionPa1snip> hemangpatel: its the codename for the release
[02:02] <robin0800> vuarabei: how did you delete it?
[02:02] <vuarabei> lol
[02:02] <vuarabei> right click and delete)
[02:02] <ActionPa1snip> !trash
[02:02] <Severian> hemangpatel, Every release gets a name from Mark Shuttleworth.  That is the name he picked for 11.10
[02:02] <vuarabei> right click on folder then use delete
[02:02] <brjannc> vuarabei: you might use the baobab tool to scan your drive; it will show you a graphical representation of where the disk space is being used, and that might help you figure it out
[02:03] <hemangpatel> who is Mark Shuttleworth ?
[02:03] <worrow> as reference you do change autologon from useraccount make sure you unlock yourself first or it won't let you change the logon option
[02:03] <worrow> new question
[02:03] <ActionPa1snip> hemangpatel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
[02:03] <worrow> In the autostart folder what is necessary to be there?
[02:03] <robin0800> vuarabei: you should uninstall or remove never use delete for an installed program
[02:04] <brjannc> robin0800: it wasn't a deb
[02:04] <Severian> hemangpatel, Mark Shuttleworth sold a company for a lot of money.  He took some of the money and started Canonical, which produces Ubuntu.  Google for him for more details.
[02:04] <hemangpatel> yes i found .. thanks..
[02:05] <hemangpatel> ubuntu provides some special features in new version ?
[02:05] <ActionPa1snip> hemangpatel: sometimes, yes
[02:05] <xangua> hemangpatel: go to ubuntu.com and find out ;)
[02:05] <Severian> every version has new features.  Look for the release page for the release.
[02:07] <meomic> hemangpatel: 11.10 comes only with unity - still can make gnome come back - depends how u use pc - if you have a 50-60 terminals like me then you wont like unity - clicking on that crazy button just to see a huge list of terminals and later to look which one i wanted... errr... ive meant if you have only webbrowser and few things you might like it..
[02:08] <hemangpatel> ok meomic
[02:09] <ActionPa1snip> meomic: gnome isn't gone in a unity session. Unity is simply a shell FOR gnome
[02:09] <worrow> well autologin is selected and yet I am still prompted for my password
[02:09] <Severian> meomic, lubuntu and xubuntu are nice desktops that work fine for large numbers of machinces managed through vnc.  I do that at home.
[02:09] <worrow> is there some other setting in gnome classic session?
[02:09] <hemangpatel> is ubuntu provides free shipping of cd now ?
[02:10] <ActionPa1snip> hemangpatel: no, shippit was closed afaik
[02:10] <meomic> yeah i know but w/o compiz there is no unity - and i dont use compiz - had so many crasher of the os cuz of it - metacity is fine - just that crazy memory leak
[02:10] <hemangpatel> hmmm. ok
[02:10] <Severian> unity 2d does not use compiz.
[02:10] <vuarabei> Your GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.
[02:10] <vuarabei> i cant find this trash in my manager
[02:11] <worrow> is there any way to speedup usb transfers on ubuntu. It was so much faster on peppermint os
[02:11] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: its a hidden folder, press ALT+H or CTRL+H (I forget which) and you will see the hidden folders
[02:12] <vuarabei> ztrl h i know
[02:12] <vuarabei> ctrl h
[02:12] <meomic> still wont go to unity, when i upgrade to 11.10 i will go prob. to xfce or smth like that, - will upgrade when i will buy new notebook - with this notebook cant do it 'rebooting my laptop is a hard thing...'
[02:12] <hemangpatel> i have some problem in ubuntu , see this image
[02:12] <hemangpatel> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/screenshotat20111121074.png/
[02:12] <Guest2919> hi. can anyone tell me ic it will be possible for me to replace unity with gnome 2.32 on my ubuntu 11.10? thanks.
[02:13] <vuarabei> still cant find wtf
[02:13] <ActionPa1snip> Guest2919: you can't replace a shell with a DE, it makes no sense
[02:13] <meomic> thats why that memory leak in metacity is driving me crazy.... - im rebooting every 30-40 days - after that tieme xorg - cuz of metacity leak is about 1,3 gb of ram
[02:13] <egoflux> so i'm in fedora 15 and i want to mount my ubuntu partition
[02:13] <ActionPa1snip> Guest2919: unity isn't a desktop like gnome is
[02:13] <vuarabei> it is in file system or in my home folder?
[02:13] <egoflux> but i cant seem to find the ubuntu partition
[02:14] <hemangpatel> i have problem see image "http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/screenshotat20111121074.png/"
[02:14] <zykotick9> hemangpatel, "cat /etc/hostname" do you see the same error message?
[02:14] <xangua> hemangpatel: if you could explain...
[02:14] <Guest2919> ActionPa1snip, i see. i wasnt aware. thx.
[02:14] <ActionPa1snip> Guest2919: you can run unity on XFCE if you want
[02:15] <xangua> ubottu: tell about nounity to Guest2919
[02:15] <xangua> mmm how was it¿¿ :/
[02:15] <ActionPa1snip> Guest2919: if you prefer the Gnome2 look and feel I suggest you install xfce4 and then use XFCE session, no unity bar there
[02:15] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: it is on the same hard drive as your fedora partition?
[02:16] <Guest2919> ActionPa1snip: i see. im not aware of xfce. i hope it is as customisable as 2.32 used to be. thanks again.
[02:16] <Severian> ActionPa1snip, I get too many X lockups with xfce.  I suggest Lubuntu.  It has been stable.  and quick.
[02:16] <robin0800> ! notunity | Guest2919
[02:16] <egoflux> iuriguilherme, yes it is...but i installed ubuntu with wubi
[02:17] <egoflux> so im not sure what the ubuntu partition is called
[02:17] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: you are trying to access this partition on windows then?
[02:17] <egoflux> and df -h doesnt show
[02:17] <egoflux> iuriguilherme, no from fedora
[02:17] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: well i would figure where is your fedora partition on /dev
[02:17] <ActionPa1snip> Severian: oh I know LXDE, I've been using it since Karmic :)
[02:17] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: ubuntu partition should be in the same device
[02:18] <Guest2919> ubottu: thank u. useful information.
[02:18] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: for example, if your fedora partition is on /dev/sda6 your ubuntu partition is the same thing but with another number instead of 6
[02:19] <notaHacker> How do I check to see if my laptop has an integrated bluetooth card?
[02:19] <Guest2919> ubottu: for real? thanks anyhow. :)
[02:19] <egoflux> iuriguilherme, i know that but when i do df -h there's no partition that could be ubuntus...its basically ntfs for windows and the fedora ext
[02:20] <Severian> egoflux, Maybe you installed Ubuntu using wubi.  In that case Ubuntu is a file on the ntfs drive.
[02:20] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: well i suspect you erased that partition of yours
[02:20] <vuarabei> OMG!!
[02:20] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: nevermind, i just read that you used wubi
[02:21] <vuarabei> I FIND THIS FAKIN HIDEN TRASH WHERE UBOT SAy
[02:21] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: in that case Severian is right, it is not a partition, it is a file you should look for
[02:21] <vuarabei> AND THERE 1.8 gb
[02:21] <vuarabei> fuh
[02:21] <vuarabei> Thx to all ppl who try to help me
[02:21] <egoflux> iuriguilherme, what could that file be called?
[02:22] <egoflux> wait, i think i found it
[02:22] <vuarabei> but now i need to know why it not send this files directly to trash
[02:22] <egoflux> it's called root.disk
[02:22] <egoflux> but how to i mount it?
[02:22] <urlin2u> vuarabei, take a read on what the designer says. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[02:22] <Socky_> What log file would I look at to see who has ssh'd into my box?
[02:22] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: try: find $HOME -type d -exec du -sh {} \;
[02:23] <Severian> vuarabei, If you used a command prompt and did a rm to delete the files, they don't go to trash.  They just get deleted.
[02:23] <vuarabei> i just right click and choose delete
[02:23] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: well first you try to mount it with the mount command, if it doesn't work then you should try something like dd or ddrescue
[02:23] <klamontagne> Socky_, /var/log/auth.log
[02:23] <vuarabei> how to delete it properly
[02:23] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: i can't help you much because i have no idea how this file is encoded
[02:23] <Socky_> thanks
[02:24] <vuarabei> and what to do now?delete all trash folder?
[02:24] <klamontagne> Socky_, have a look a 'who', 'w' and 'last' also
[02:24] <egoflux> ok...let me tryt
[02:24] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: if you delete those files they go to the expunged folder
[02:24] <vuarabei> what is expunged
[02:25] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: it is another directory inside the main trash directory
[02:25] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: if you delete the files insidie the files directory they'll go to expunged
[02:25] <vuarabei> i want to know why when i delete them they dont go in trash canon? they go to /root/.local/share/Trash
[02:25] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: well, you deleted them as root
[02:25] <ActionPa1snip> vuarabei: if you deleted as your user it will be in your users trash, not roots
[02:26] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: maybe you used sudo rm or even opened your file manager as root to delte them
[02:26] <vuarabei> so if i delete as root they go /root/.local/share/Trash?
[02:26] <iuriguilherme> vuarabei: yes, becuase the user who is deleting is root
[02:26] <hogu> I have PasswordAuthentication set to no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on ubuntu 11.10 however I can still ssh into this machine from another machine which as no keys set up, how is this possible?!
[02:26] <Guest2919> another question. my iphone 4 (ios 5) has crappy coordination with ubuntu. would anyone recommend jailbreaking it or should i switch to samsung galaxy s2 instead? thx.
[02:27] <klamontagne> hogu, has ssh been reloaded/restarted?
[02:28] <ActionPa1snip> Guest2919: I'd get the galaxy, its sweeeet
[02:28] <urlin2u> Guest2919, sledgehammer, or shotgun are my votes
[02:28] <urlin2u> :D
[02:29] <hogu> @klamontagne, yes several times, I thought I was protected until now
[02:29] <vuarabei> but how i can delete them from /root/.local/share/Trash
[02:29] <egoflux> iuriguilherme, got it working man...thanks for the help
[02:29] <hogu> @klamontagne, I was trying out a different machine and trying to set up keys and found i could connect without them
[02:29] <vuarabei>  i try but i dont delete them
[02:29] <Guest2919> ActionPa1snip, urlin2u : thank u. will do.
[02:30] <klamontagne> hogu, if you try connecting as an invalid user, it will ask for a password anyway, but never work
[02:30] <hogu> @klamontagne, I can get my login shell
[02:30] <xangua> Guest2919: if you can and want it, it would be better than using a device that doesn't want you to use it ;)
[02:31] <klamontagne> hogu, Have you enabled ssh Agent forwarding?
[02:31] <williamchan_> whats a tool to count number of lines a file has
[02:31] <klamontagne> williamchan_, wc -l
[02:31] <williamchan_> thx
[02:32] <hogu> @klamontagne, not that I know of, I don't know what that is
[02:32] <Guest2919> xangua: yeah, true. i purchased the iphone before getting introduced to ubuntu. now i regret it. thx though.
[02:34] <hogu> @klamontagne, how do I check that?
[02:35] <robin0800> hogu: this is irc not twitter loose the @ please
[02:38] <boxybrown> hey guys, XForwarding on my servers has stopped working after installing ubuntu-desktop package
[02:38] <boxybrown> any ideas what hte problem can be?
[02:38] <boxybrown> running ssh -X user@machine, and then trying the 'xeyes' command, i get the following error
[02:38] <nairb> which version of ubuntu?
[02:38] <boxybrown> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[02:38] <boxybrown> ubuntu 10.10
[02:38] <ActionPa1snip> boxybrown: what OS is the client system?
[02:39] <boxybrown> ActionPa1snip: OSX
[02:39] <kl4m_> installing ubuntu-desktop on target machine or ssh'ing machine?
[02:39] <kl4m_> ah ok
[02:39] <boxybrown> ubuntu-desktop on the target machine (server)
[02:39] <boxybrown> i dont believe its a client problem because I can ssh -X into a different server and it works fine
[02:39] <nairb> and check in your login-manager settings to see if X11 forwarding is allowed
[02:40] <williamchan_> boxybrown: any error msg?
[02:40] <boxybrown> the only things ive really found are "check sshd_config" or "delete .Xauthority" but ssd_config has XForwarding enabled and the other approach didnt work
[02:40] <boxybrown> williamchan_: Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[02:40] <ActionPa1snip> boxybrown: is 'X11Forwarding yes' set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:40] <boxybrown> ActionPa1snip: yep
[02:41] <boxybrown> nairb: where would that usually be? this is ubuntu-desktop, so its using gnome
[02:41] <nairb> im not sure (tend to use xubuntu) but i think it in your gdm config
[02:41] <ActionPa1snip> boxybrown: http://hintsforums.macworld.com/archive/index.php/t-63872.html
[02:42] <Arcademan> Guys does msttcorefonts exist as a package anymore :)
[02:42] <nairb> i think under the system settings of the ubuntu menu
[02:43] <vuarabei> how to delete files from /root/.local/share/Trash?
[02:44] <boxybrown> ActionPa1snip: i'm pretty sure this isn't an OSX issue. I have the same problem when trying to SSH from Ubuntu to Ubuntu
[02:44] <nairb> @vuarabei: you, you must switch to root
[02:44] <nairb> sudo -i
[02:45] <vuarabei> i run my file manager with sudo but when i right ckick on files and use delete nothing happens
[02:45] <hogu> klamontagne, I found this "Overwritten by lwidentity: ChallengeReponseAuthentication no" ChallengeResponseAuthenticatino yes
[02:45] <hogu> I guess that was it
[02:45] <nairb> Arcademan, medibuntu.org
[02:46] <boxybrown> any other idea? I've been googling this forever
[02:46] <nairb> @vuarabei: use a terminal
[02:46] <nairb> sudo -i
[02:46] <vuarabei> what is -i?
[02:47] <nairb> login as root
[02:47] <nairb> to root's home dir and everything
[02:48] <nairb> @boxybrown, im certain its a setting disabled by default with your gdm's settings
[02:48] <robin0800> hogu: this is irc not twitter loose the @ please
[02:49] <vuarabei> i make it then run file manager but stil nothing it sont delete
[02:49] <robin0800> nairb: this is irc not twitter loose the @ please
[02:49] <boxybrown> nairb: okay, i'm looking around
[02:49] <phunyguy> is there something wrong with using the @ symbol?
[02:49] <phunyguy> (just curious)
[02:50] <nairb> @buarabei, you dont delete that folder
[02:50] <nairb> you empty your trash using 'gksu nautilus'
[02:50] <tusob> Hi, my computer is giving me a blank screen when I try to boot it. The fans are running and the hdd light is constant. I am not getting BIOS output on the monitor.
[02:50] <iuriguilherme> egoflux: no problem
[02:51] <robin0800> phunyguy: yes it makes it hard to read and if you put it in a name it won't auto complete
[02:51] <phunyguy> sounds kind of nit-picky, no?
[02:51] <nairb> boxybrown, i know. im just used to using @signs when talking @work
[02:52] <WanderingEnder> phunyguy: It messes up people's auto complete.
[02:52] <phunyguy> autocomplete, meaning when you press /tab/ it doesnt put the whole name?
[02:52] <nairb> tusob - that sounds like something to contact your computer manufacture about, not the ubuntu irc channel
[02:53] <phunyguy> sounds like their problem, not yours.
[02:53] <tusob> nairb: I guess it's not really about ubuntu, but 1) there was no manufacturer since I made it from parts scavenged from the town dump, and 2) I know there are lots of nice people here :-D
[02:54] <WanderingEnder> phunyguy: meaning that @name won't trigger auto complete on some clients.
[02:54] <phunyguy> tusob, then go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <phunyguy> WanderingEnder, what do you mean by autocomplete?
[02:54] <tusob> phunyguy: ahhh, I didn't know it existed… thx!
[02:54] <phunyguy> are you talking about notifications?
[02:54] <WanderingEnder> #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a support channel, keep that in mind.
[02:54] <phunyguy> because, that's not called "auto-complete"
[02:58] <IMC_> Hey, I have a new Ubuntu server 11.10 running and I ran apt-get update and that worked, but every program I try to apt-get install I'm told there's no candidate, even for stuff in universe. The repos are not commented out and the /etc/apt/sources.list looks normal/
[02:58] <tbruff13> Fear: hey
[02:59] <soreau> IMC_: What package?
[02:59] <IMC_> trying to install daemonlogger
[02:59] <IMC_> But I also tried for example, links
[02:59] <soreau> !info daemonlogger
[02:59] <nairb> IMC_ - i have found that there are many packages i am used to using which are just place-holders in 11.10.
[03:00] <soreau> IMC_: Do you have universe repo enabled?
[03:00] <IMC_> nairb Yes, it complained of place-holder status. soreau yes, it's enabled
[03:00] <robin0800> IMC_: did you run sudo aptitutude update first?
[03:01] <IMC_> robin0800 aptitude on the server? No, I haven't
[03:02] <IMC_> We did run apt-get update
[03:02] <bowo> +++++
[03:02] <nairb> IMC_ - yeah. unfortunately nothing can really be done. try to see if there is a ppa...
[03:02] <IMC_> Hmmm. Interesting. THanks nairb.
[03:03] <nairb> IMC__ or build the package yourself...
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[03:04] <civilorange> hey does anyone know how to change the default shell that ubuntu logs into, through the terminal?
[03:04] <civilorange> i've got gnome installed and i wanna use it
[03:05] <robin0800> civilorange: that's changed at the log in screen
[03:05] <nairb> civilorange: you could look into your .xinitrc
[03:06] <bowo> hey does anyone know how to change default terminal color with xdefaults?
[03:06] <orlok> Where can i find ufw's status, specifically of its default allow/deny policy?
[03:07] <nairb> orlok - are you using gufw
[03:07] <orlok> nairb: no
[03:07] <civilorange> thanks robin0800.  after smashing ctl + alt + del several times i was succesful in logging out to the login screen [i had autologin in before]
[03:07] <salmander> Hello, does anyone know if RocketRaid 2320 is supported in any default install?
[03:07] <orlok> nairb: i need to write a script to reset ufw to deny incoming/allow outbound if it has been changed from the default for more than a set period of time
[03:08] <orlok> nairb: i have done this if it has been disabled, but i realised that it doesnt pick up the inbound policy set to allow, my script thinks thats fine as it still shows as enabled overall
[03:08] <orlok> so i need to find where the default policy rules are so i can check them
[03:09] <civilorange> agh, i was hoping that switching the desktop environment woul dbring up back the toolbars
[03:09] <civilorange> i can't launch any of my apps right now cause they aren't any toolbars or anything
[03:09] <nairb> orlok: sorry. dont think i could really help with that...
[03:10] <civilorange> when i right click all that pops up is: create folder, new doc, organize desktop by name, keep aligned and change desktop bg
[03:10] <mooseposse> Hello
[03:10] <naptastic> Is it possible to restrict users so they can't shut down the machine? Is it possible to do so even if they have sudoer's access?
[03:10] <nairb> civilorange - are you having an issue with the gnome panel? not running?
[03:11] <brjannc> salmander: It doesn't appear so; see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RocketRaid
[03:11] <boxybrown> nairb: I tried changing all these configs that have 'disallow tcp'.. hasnt really done anything though.  Not sure what the tcp does anyways in this situation
[03:11] <civilorange> nairb, i don't see any of the panels at all
[03:11] <nairb> civilorange - hit <alt>+<f2>
[03:11] <civilorange> nothing
[03:11] <nairb> civilorange:  no run dialog?
[03:11] <civilorange> nope
[03:12] <mooseposse> Would anyone know what might be some causes for a wireless card to be installed properly but not see any wireless networks
[03:12] <mooseposse> I haven't had much luck looking online
[03:12] <w0_> I've got a red ! triangle in my up-right corner, telling me that some repositories are out of date -- how can I tell which one(s) are causing the problem?
[03:12] <nairb> mooseposse : not the right driver. or not rebooted. or not running
[03:13] <mooseposse> I checked in terminal its running last time i checked is there a way to change to a different driver?
[03:13] <robin0800> civilorange: don't think your in gnome classic are you?
[03:13] <boxybrown> okay, its got to be this: "xauth info" gives me 1 entry
[03:13] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: Nautilus have taken over your desktop
[03:13] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: kill it
[03:14] <civilorange> robin0800: I selected gnome class when i was in the login screen
[03:14] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: find nautilus pid with your task manager and kill it
[03:14] <civilorange> i can't even bring up task manager cause ubuntu's unity thing
[03:14] <civilorange> is gone
[03:14] <civilorange> it disappeared after i enabled xinerama
[03:15] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: hit ctrl + alt + F1 and use the virtual terminal
[03:15] <bowo> ada orang ga gan?
[03:15] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: use CTRL + ALT + F7 to come back to X
[03:15] <pangolin> bowo: in English please
[03:15] <civilorange> iuriguilherme okay i'm in the virtual terminal
[03:15] <mooseposse> How do you change the driver for a wireless card
[03:15] <bowo> sory2
[03:16] <nairb> civilorange, hit <ctrl>+<alt>+<f2> and log into a FB-terminal where you can issue commands. then <ctrl>+<alt>+<f6 or f7> to switch back to your gui
[03:16] <nairb> civilorange: perhaps gnome isnt running right. try restarting your gdm
[03:17] <civilorange> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" command not found
[03:17] <nairb> moosepose: settings -> additional drivers
[03:17] <civilorange> .reboots.
[03:17] <civilorange> arg
[03:17] <mooseposse> when I do that it comes up with drivers for nvidia
[03:18] <bowo> how to make my terminal like this " http://bowoganteng.tk/terminal
[03:19] <nairb> mooseposse: nvidia is video card, not wireless, but there isnt another wireless card driver mentioned? and also do you have the partners repositories enabled?
[03:19] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: sorry i had to be afk
[03:19] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: you should use killall nautilus
[03:19] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: that way you doesn't need to find the pid
[03:19] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: but it is better if you coul
[03:19] <civilorange> will it kill it for just that session?
[03:19] <mooseposse> I know that, I was just saying thats what shows up. I didnt think about the repositories ill try that next thanks!
[03:19] <civilorange> and will i have to keep doing that each time i reboot
[03:19] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: yes
[03:19] <civilorange> D:
[03:19] <garden92> is there anything like Tvesity for Linux?
[03:19] <bowo> omg
[03:20] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: actually everytime you open the file manager it will happen again
[03:20] <garden92> TVersity'
[03:20] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: but there is a way to open nautilus without letting it taking over your desktop
[03:20] <civilorange> "nautiulus: no process found"
[03:20] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: the syntax is nautilus
[03:20] <civilorange> o
[03:20] <civilorange> okay
[03:21] <nairb> garden92 - http://www.boxee.tv/
[03:21] <peepsalot> hi, how do i change the default program that firefox uses to open a file.  for some reason it wants to open any kind of compressed archive in VLC, which is not made for that
[03:21] <civilorange> Now I can't right click anything iuriguilherme
[03:21] <civilorange> do i log out? and log back in
[03:21] <yesh> First Time Using IRC...How's It Going Everyone
[03:21] <mooseposse> I'm going to sound silly asking this but how do I get to the repositories in 11.10 I have only had this for a day lol I still havnt figured it out yet
[03:21] <peepsalot> welcome yesh
[03:21] <drworm_> hey Yesh
[03:21] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: well then that's not what you were expecting
[03:22] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: what was the normal behaviour?
[03:22] <civilorange> .cries.
[03:22] <civilorange> before i enabled xinerama
[03:22] <yesh> Thanks Peepsalot n Drworm
[03:22] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: don't worry, after login it will be back in
[03:22] <nairb> mooseposse: ubuntu software center
[03:22] <civilorange> it had unity's program launcher
[03:22] <mooseposse> ah ok duh... thank you
[03:22] <civilorange> and i had a normal panel up top
[03:22] <civilorange> but now i can't do anything
[03:22] <nairb> mosseposse: edit -> software sources
[03:22] <yesh> Trying To Figure Out How To Get My Mic To Work On Google Talk n Skype
[03:22] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: well xinerama and compiz are buggy things
[03:23] <yesh> Anyone Else Have This Problem?
[03:23] <civilorange> =[
[03:23] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: i suppose ubuntu 11.10 is not supposed to be customized
[03:23] <usr13> yesh: Mic gain?  alsamixer
[03:23] <mooseposse> ok thank you, wow it looks nice from what it was before
[03:23] <civilorange> yeah..
[03:23] <civilorange> .logs out.
[03:23] <oobiloz> Alsamixer -c0
[03:23] <oobiloz> ?
[03:23] <civilorange> okay the options i have are gnome, gnome class, gnome class w/ no effects, ubuntu and ubuntu 2d
[03:24] <civilorange> gnome classic is currently selected
[03:24] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: well with that i can't help you because i don't use gnome, but i am sure there are a lot of people like you who did that and they must have posted some tutorial in some blog or forum
[03:24] <oobiloz> Yesh... is it working with other programs?
[03:24] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: it should be easy to find it
[03:24] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: try without effects next time
[03:24] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: it normally works
[03:24] <drworm_> yesh, check out system settings -> sound -> input and check there so see if your mic is registering input
[03:24] <usr13>  Open a terminal, type alsamixer, hit enter
[03:24] <yesh> When I Try It On Sound Recorder, Sound Gets Picked Up No Probs
[03:25] <civilorange> .tries that.
[03:25] <oobiloz> I had that problem before, it worked when got
[03:25] <civilorange> thanks for helping btw
[03:25] <yesh> But I Cant Make Mself Heard On Skype Or Google Talk
[03:25] <nairb> usr13 :-)
[03:25] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: without effects won't have unity.
[03:25] <oobiloz> Oh
[03:25] <civilorange> nothing shows up
[03:25] <nairb> usr13 but most people dont have alsamixer installed anymore
[03:25] <usr13> o
[03:25] <mooseposse> ok.... where is edit... wow this is bad ha ha ha i cant find anything lol
[03:25] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: alt f2 brings the terminal?
[03:26] <nairb> moosepose - top of the "ubuntu software center" window, next to "file"
[03:26] <civilorange> iuriguilherme, ubuntu 2d got the launcher panel back
[03:27] <bowo> how to make my terminal like this " http://bowoganteng.tk/terminal
[03:27] <civilorange> ugh. unity's still there but ohwell
[03:27] <usr13> iuriguilherme: Alt-F2 gnome-terminal
[03:27] <mooseposse> oh ok thats new,  no wonder i could not find it
[03:27] <yesh> I Have A Gateway Netbook If That Means Anything
[03:27] <jrib> bowo: that's just vim with a color scheme
[03:27] <mooseposse> thanks!
[03:27] <oobiloz> Yesh... I had that problem before, idk why or how but for me it worked when I changed setting in pavu something
[03:27] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: well unity is somethign very new and anything gtk related that you install will mostly sure break it
[03:27] <nairb> civilorange - skip unity, and gnome-classic. just switch to xfce
[03:27] <bowo> how to make that color ?
[03:27] <jrib> bowo: ask that person or search vim color themes :)
[03:27] <iuriguilherme> civilorange: that's the normal behavior, if you get it to work, that's a miracle
[03:27] <civilorange> haha
[03:28] <oobiloz> Pavucontrol? Not sure if I remember it right
[03:28] <civilorange> anyway, thanks for the help again! time to do some homework noww
[03:28] <bowo> jrib : i fond using xdefault on home dir
[03:28] <civilorange> take care
[03:28] <civilorange> :D
[03:28] <bowo> *found
[03:28] <yesh> oobiloz: Yeah I Installed That Today After Reading Abt It On Some Forum
[03:28] <yesh> Still No Dice
[03:29] <Monkey_b> hey guys im having trouble configuring my ubuntu server to send emails... i use postfix, but the majority of the messages i send end up saying 'connection timed out' in the mailq
[03:29] <Monkey_b> any ideas?
[03:29] <yesh> Just To Clarify...When I Try Alsamixer It Should Be The One That Says Alsa For Gnome Right?
[03:30] <TxEdition> quick question.. I was trying to change my login screen and ended up screwing it up.. anybody know the original location of the *.png in 11.10?
[03:30] <oobiloz> Oh, I'm sorry. That worked in my asus before.... the settings in Skype and g are ok, right, but not working?
[03:30] <redworlf> hello
[03:30] <jrib> TxEdition: /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[03:31] <oobiloz> Yesh... This is the one in terminal....
[03:31] <yesh> Yeah The Settings Seem To Be Fine
[03:31] <TxEdition> thx
[03:31] <teddie> oobiloz, which version of ubuntu is your anus using?
[03:31] <yesh> Hahahahaha
[03:31] <nairb> Monkey_b - reconfigure  postfix package
[03:32] <oobiloz> Teddie.. Can't remember, I bricked it... Am on phone atm, hehehe. This was last year, I tried 2....
[03:33] <yesh> On A Side Note...What Do You Guys Think The Best Window Manager Is On Ubuntu?
[03:33] <oobiloz> Omg. I just realised why you laughed
[03:33] <oobiloz> Lol
[03:33] <oobiloz> Tiny phone
[03:33] <nairb> yesh - xfce
[03:33] <yesh> I Took Unity Off n Replaced It With Gnome 3
[03:33] <oobiloz> I'm on xfce right now too...
[03:34] <bowo> xfce ?
[03:34] <nairb> bowo - xubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <oobiloz> It's nice
[03:34] <bowo> im using gnome but im installing lxde
[03:34] <robin0800> yesh: kde
[03:34] <ArchLearner> xfce is the bomb. favorite lightweight windowmanager for old hardware.
[03:35] <usr13> not so bad for new hardware either
[03:35] <bowo> can i install arch without cd / flashdisk usb?
[03:35] <nairb> bowo - lxde is ok. but i like the defaults of xfce best http://www.xubuntu.org/
[03:35] <bowo> :))
[03:35] <bowo> wait
[03:35] <usr13> efficeincy has it's merrit
[03:36] <bowo> nairb: cool
[03:36] <yesh> Loving Gnome 3
[03:37] <bowo> thats gnome panel on xfce?
[03:37] <nairb> just a heads up to anyone who is installing xubuntu-desktop or xubuntu from live-cd you will still want to make sure to install gvfs-backends if you plan to brows network file systems in your file browser
[03:37] <yesh> Newbie Linux User If You Guys Cant Already Tell
[03:37] <oobiloz> Yesh...me too
[03:38] <oobiloz> I'm on xubuntu atm
[03:38] <nairb> for some reason its not a required package
[03:38] <ArchLearner> bowo: you can do a netinstall but still require a minimal iso to boot from a usb or cd
[03:38] <bowo> gnome is to heavy
[03:38] <oobiloz> Thanks bairn
[03:38] <oobiloz> Erg
[03:38] <nairb> bowo, no its xfce panel
[03:38] <oobiloz> Nairb
[03:38] <bowo> nairb : cool
[03:39] <bowo> ArchLearner: to hard
[03:39] <JahtsoNut> I would like to edit the look of the lock dialog (after pressing ALT+CTRL+L) - I assume I only need to edit an UI file. Where is this file located in Ubuntu 11.10, I can't find (grep) any reference to that?
[03:40] <nairb> bowo - i then tend to also include fluxbox as an alternative window manager. lxde is just pre-configured openbox...
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> JahtsoNut: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc     please
[03:40] <bowo_> thats right
[03:41] <ArchLearner> bowo: i'm not sure i understand your question, you want to get a working arch system up and running without installing fromm a cd or usb? or, do you not want to have to do all the manual installation stuff from the command  line (in which case you can use archbang)
[03:41] <yesh> Any Guitarists Here?
[03:41] <vuarabei> ну bono with us
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> yesh: I play a little
[03:42] <nairb> yesh - yes, i have played since the 80's
[03:42] <surjagain> need help with issues after installing Radeon drivers on a notebook with Ubuntu 11.10
[03:42] <yesh> NICE
[03:42] <bowo_> ArchLearner i can install Arch , but i dont have cd / usb and my computer is still empty no operating system inside
[03:43] <yesh> I Ask Cuz I Used To Use GuitarPro
[03:43] <nairb> yesh - you may want ubuntu-studio-audio package if you are interested in music on ubuntu
[03:43] <yesh> n Tux Guitar Isnt Really Cutting It For Me
[03:43] <bowo_> means only ubuntu
[03:43] <vuarabei> bowo: install xubuntu
[03:43] <cwill747> So I have a problem where every time I try to connect to postgresql, I get a "could not connect to database" issue
[03:43] <bowo_> yesh : why not guitar pro?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> cwill747: do you specify a credential?
[03:44] <nairb> yesh : sorry, package is 'ubuntustudio-audio'
[03:44] <yesh> Bowo: I Cant Seem To Install It On Ubuntu 11.10
[03:44] <yesh> nairb: Does That Do What Guitar Pro Does?
[03:44] <bowo_> yesh : using wine ?
[03:45] <yesh> bowo: Ive Tried Using It With Wine...
[03:45] <cwill747> ActionParsnip: Well i set my pg_hba.conf to allow local users, and I'm logging on as a user that should have accesss...
[03:45] <yesh> Cant Seem To Get It To Work
[03:45] <nairb> yesh : its a meta-package which installs many packages that does more than what guitar-pro does
[03:45] <surjagain> can anyone help with issues after installing Radeon binary drivers? Notebook cannot boot anymore
[03:45] <bowo_> vuarabei : for?
[03:45] <bowo_> yesh : wine tricks?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> cwill747: thats all I can think of, tried asking in #mysql
[03:45] <cwill747> yeah i might, thanks
[03:46] <vuarabei> bowo_: u dont have system xubuntu is good
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> surjagain: hold shift at boot and you can drop to recovery root console and do stuff there
[03:46] <yesh> nairb: Theres This Song Called On The Way...By Guitar Idol 09 Winner Jack Thammarat Which Ive Been Dying To Figure Out
[03:46] <bowo_> vuarabei : why not arch ??
[03:46] <bowo_> hmmmm
[03:47] <yesh> n On Tux Guitar It Wont Let Me Select The Entire Solo
[03:47] <yesh> bowo: To Be Honest I Dont Think I Know How To Use Wine Completely
[03:47] <surjagain> ActionParsnip: i did, what how do i uninstall the driver.. i'm not sure where it installed and whether it has an uninstallation script
[03:47] <vuarabei> bowo: dunno)
[03:47] <garden92> how do you use an sh file?
[03:47] <teddie> run it
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> surjagain: dpkg -l | grep -i frglx     should show the package
[03:48] <teddie> chmod +x file.sh | ./file.sh
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> garden92: mark it as executable and run it, what is the filename?
[03:48] <surjagain> ok i'll try that, thanks
[03:49] <bfri> can anyone help me install spotify with wine?
[03:49] <orlok> Does anybody here have a decent knowledge of ufw? I'm wondering where the defaults for incoming/outbound are stored
[03:49] <nairb> good night good peoples.
[03:50] <yesh> Night Nairb
[03:50] <garden92> ActionParsnip: how do i mark as executable? and twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-6.0.37.sh
[03:50] <OldOneEye> how do i know if my cat5 cable is crossover
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> garden92: assuming it is in the Downloads folder:  chmod +x ~/Downloads/twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-6.0.37.sh; ~/Downloads/twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-6.0.37.sh
[03:50] <knapper_tech> what's a good multitouch configuration tool?
[03:50] <nairb> garden92 - chmod +x fileUwantExe
[03:50] <knapper_tech> I have a trackpad and magic trackpad
[03:50] <knapper_tech> want gestures
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> garden92: obviously if it needs running as root, prepend sudo to the second part of the command
[03:51] <OldOneEye> how do i know if my cat5 cable is crossover?
[03:51] <bowo_> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev = stuck 64% . why?
[03:51] <oobiloz> Na might Nairb
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: look at the ends
[03:51] <yesh> If Anyone Can Help Me Install Guitar Pro On Ubuntu 11.10 and Help Me Fix My Mix Prob On Skype, Ill Be Eternally Grateful And Entirely Convinced That Linux Is The Only Way To Go!
[03:51] <oobiloz> *night
[03:51] <OldOneEye> wat do i look for
[03:51] <grendal-prime> whats the lts migration from 10.04 to 11.04 going to do to gnome?  will all of my gnome stuff be convirted to unity?
[03:51] <OldOneEye> ends are black plugs
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: if they are the same colour sequence it is patch, if they are different its a crossover
[03:51] <OldOneEye> ok
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: no, look through the head and you'll see 8 little wires
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> OldOneEye: unless the ends are not opague
[03:52] <teddie> yesh, it isn't a cult.. nobody's trying to convert you :p
[03:53] <teddie> the software vendors should do a better job of linux support/testing
[03:53] <garden92> ActionParsnip: where would i put that line?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> garden92: in a terminal
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> teddie: +1
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> yesh: check the appdb, see if your app works in wine
[03:54] <garden92> ActionParsnip: cannot create directory
[03:54] <grendal-prime> whats the lts migration from 10.04 to 11.04 going to do to gnome?  will all of my gnome stuff be convirted to unity?
[03:55] <yesh> Parsnip: I Did...Its Supposed To Work Fine...
[03:55] <xangua> grendal-prime: don't you mean 10.04 to 12.04 ¿¿
[03:55] <grendal-prime> ya sorry
[03:55] <grendal-prime> long day
[03:55] <yesh> One Version Even Has A Gold Recommendation
[03:55] <grendal-prime> whats the lts migration from 10.04 to 12.04 going to do to gnome?  will all of my gnome stuff be convirted to unity?
[03:56] <grendal-prime> there we go
[03:56] <grendal-prime> that is probably getting anoying.
[03:56] <orlok> Oh, heh. Obvious place.
[03:56] <orlok>  /etc/default/ufw
[03:56] <orlok> :)
[03:56] <Technicus> Hello . . . will someone please provide me with guidance for recovering an external usb harddrive; it is a two terabyte drive, I partitioned it into two 1 terabyte ext4 partitions . . . it was mistakenly reformated to one two terabyte fat32 partition.  How can I revert it back to previous state?
[03:56] <ee364a11> fun
[03:56] <grendal-prime> grrr daughter needs bedtime storey
[03:57] <grendal-prime> brb...everyone please wait tell i get back ok?!
[03:57] <yesh> alsamixer Doesnt even Load For Me
[03:57] <grendal-prime> heheeh i love that idea
[03:57] <knapper_tech> does the linux 3.x kernel do multitouch out of the box?
[03:58] <ee364a11> go go
[04:00] <boxybrown> okay i found my problem
[04:00] <boxybrown> if anyone is interested
[04:00] <Technicus> knapper_tech: Multitouch might be based in X.  Check out the xinput: < http://www.x.org/wiki/XInputHotplug >.
[04:00] <boxybrown> long story short, I had edited my /etc/nsswitch.conf and removed 'files' from the 'hosts: ' entries
[04:00] <boxybrown> so it always looks to DNS to figure out host mappings
[04:01] <boxybrown> which is a problem when the machine is looking for localhost, which X forwarding needs to knwo
[04:03] <ee364a11> fun
[04:05] <JahtsoNut> Sorry, for asking again, but I think I got kicked off the server and did not see any replies (if there were any):  I would like to edit the look of the lock dialog (after pressing ALT+CTRL+L) - I assume I only need to edit an UI file. Where is this file located in Ubuntu 11.10, I can't find (grep) any reference to that?
[04:06] <yesh> Anyone Know How To Install GuitarPro Using Wine?
[04:06] <oobiloz> Bye for now...sorry idk yesh
[04:07] <JahtsoNut> yesh:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3782 <- is that any help?
[04:07] <Technicus> yesh: Have you been to the WINE channel, please ignore me if you already have.
[04:07] <yesh> The Wine Channel??
[04:07] <aeon-ltd> yesh: /j wine
[04:08] <somsip> ...or /join #wine
[04:08] <yesh> Sorry Guys You're Talking To A Complete Linux Noob
[04:08] <yesh> Just Made The Transition From Windows7
[04:08] <yesh> Real Happy About It too! :)
[04:09] <JahtsoNut> ok, so it seems that the window layout for the lock dialog is in /usr/lib/gnome-screensaver/gnome-screensaver-dialog - hardcoded in the binary.. so to change it I assume I have to create a new .ui file and hope that gnome  will use this instead?
[04:09] <teddie> JahtsoNut, I don't think so.. you'd probably have to edit the source code and rebuild gnome
[04:09] <somsip> yesh: type '/join #wine' in IRC and you will join the wine channel. They might be better suited to help you
[04:09] <JabberWalkie__> @yesh, what a coincidence! im thinking of going to windows 7!
[04:09] <yesh> Jahtso: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3782
[04:09] <irc-free> hi all
[04:10] <irc-free> how do i reinstall ati open source drivers?
[04:10] <JabberWalkie__> if only operating systems could breed....then we could just breed out all the bad parts and the bugs....
[04:10] <irc-free> i borked my install
[04:10] <yesh> Jabber: If Its Software You're After...Go For It...
[04:10] <phunyguy> yesh, Why Are You Typing Like This?
[04:10] <yesh> I Can See Linux Being The Way To Go For The Future
[04:10] <JabberWalkie__> yeah, some programs i need just dont run well or at all...
[04:10] <yesh> Phunguy: I Have No Idea
[04:10] <irc-free> hello?
[04:10] <phunyguy> =P
[04:10] <teddie> The best thing about linux compared to windows 7 is the level of customizability, and as a developer I can enjoy developing for desktop with Qt, server with Java EE and mobile with the Android SDK without ever being tempted with proprietary technologies such as .NET which forever lock you into MS products.
[04:11] <JabberWalkie__> I know.....
[04:11] <phunyguy> !patience | irc-free
[04:11] <yesh> Started When I Was A Kid...My Fingers Are Unstoppable Now
[04:11] <vuarabei> wich proprietar driver i should install for nvidia ge force 8400m gs???
[04:11] <Technicus> yesh: < http://wiki.winehq.org/IRC >
[04:11] <JabberWalkie__> which is why i hate to use windows
[04:11] <JabberWalkie__> but I haz too :)
[04:11] <JabberWalkie__> :(
[04:11] <irc-free> vuarabei : i think the latest nvidia driver works
[04:11] <vuarabei> im affraid
[04:11] <irc-free> nvidia supports all their cards going back to fx
[04:12] <irc-free> unlike ati
[04:12] <irc-free> i have an older ati card
[04:12] <vuarabei> i install latest then my system dont work black screen
[04:12] <irc-free> which is unsupported
[04:12] <irc-free> that's why i have to use open source drivers
[04:12] <jimbojones_> anyone do a lot of video encoding?
[04:12] <irc-free> try installing with synaptic
[04:12] <vuarabei> i i use neveau
[04:12] <irc-free> teddie: do you develop on android?
[04:12] <irc-free> i want to get on android development
[04:12] <vuarabei> but wanna play in oil rush and it very slow
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> irc-free: try hitting enter less
[04:13] <irc-free> o
[04:13] <yesh> Jabber: If It wasnt For My Built In Mic Not Working, Or My Inability To Install Guitar Pro On Ubuntu, Id Be Completely Thrilled
[04:13] <phunyguy> !ask | jimbojones_
[04:13] <vuarabei> so maybe instal 173?
[04:13] <irc-free> anyone know then how to install open source ati?
[04:13] <JabberWalkie__> yeah, ive always had sound issues with ubuntu
[04:14] <yesh> Alright Well Thanks For The Help everyone...Much appreciated
[04:14] <teddie> irc-free, yes. the separation of the application into individual activities with their own life-cycles is initially a brainfsck so I wouldn't recommend it for a newbie developer if you want to create anything more complex than a fart app
[04:15] <Technicus> yesh: '/join #opensourcemusicians' to discuss with people software and ideas for open music softwears and implications of the like.
[04:15] <bowo> how to make my lxde load ~/.Xdefaults at startup?
[04:16] <irc-free> that means itś better not to develop on android ?
[04:18] <bowo> is there someone who would help me to install ruby, rubygems and earthquake Terminal client jugyo in lucid
[04:18] <somsip> irc-free: try it. You may be suited to it, or you may not
[04:19] <irc-free> what do i need to know?
[04:19] <irc-free> being a complete newbie
[04:19] <aeon-ltd> irc-free: basic programming
[04:19] <kandinski> big difference in battery life between ubuntu and ubuntu2d, that is between unity and unity2d
[04:19] <aeon-ltd> not literally BASIC
[04:19] <irc-free> and, is it easier/more difficult compared to windows phone 7?
[04:19] <kandinski> I wish it were a configurable option
[04:19] <irc-free> i know that
[04:20] <kandinski> that is, you could switch between unity and unity2d without logging out
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> irc-free: is that c#?
[04:20] <irc-free> yes
[04:20] <bowo> is there someone who would help me to install ruby, rubygems and earthquake Terminal client jugyo in lucid
[04:20] <irc-free> wp7 is c#
[04:21] <aeon-ltd> irc-free: i doubt it, if you had enough dedication to learn c#, learning c++ and java shouldn't be too hard
[04:21] <irc-free> i know neither
[04:21] <irc-free> :D
[04:21] <irc-free> i need to learn java first
[04:21] <irc-free> right?
[04:21] <irc-free> is it like objective c?
[04:22] <aeon-ltd> no idea
[04:22] <reokie> java -> c++
[04:22] <AfC> What's the GPG 1.x equivalent of gpg-agent [a 2.0 thing]? I thought that used to be provided automatically by seahorse (sic) but...
[04:22] <teddie> java is like dumbed down c++
[04:22] <Pilif12p> hi
[04:23] <Pilif12p> i try to mount my cd, i get an error, says to do dmesg | tail, i do that, and see this error: "[  135.937090] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format."[  216.299829] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format."
[04:23] <irc-free> really teddie? java seemed more difficult to me than c++
[04:23] <teddie> the language? or the libraries?
[04:25] <linux> hi
[04:26] <linux> can anyone tell me how can i login to ssh using a mIRC socket?
[04:26] <teddie> i doubt you can, you'd need the appropriate libraries for asymmetric encryption
[04:26] <somsip> linux: you want sshd to accept incoming connections on something like 667?
[04:27] <linux> i just want to make a script that can login into ssh and make a terminal window
[04:28] <somsip> linux: why did you ask about mIrc sockets?
[04:28] <teddie> somsip, I think s/he wants to write a ssh client in mirc script :-s
[04:28] <linux> just like putty does
[04:28] <linux> yeah what teddie says
[04:28] <somsip> linux: k - probably one for mirc experts
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> linux: if you run:  ssh name@server      you can use the terminal you run it in, you don't need another terminal
[04:29] <linux> i can write sockets im an expert but i dont know how to talk to a ssh server.
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> linux: putty just spawns one for you because the windows cmd app is rubbish
[04:30] <linux> no really just wanted to crack some servers using mIRC LOL
[04:30] <linux> :p
[04:31] <darkstar999> why using mirc?
[04:31] <linux> because im a scripter
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> linux: irssi uses perl scripts, same deal and its native
[04:32] <tntc> plus you can run it over ssh and screen and never have to disconnect!
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> linux: mirc uses its own language, irsi uses standard perl
[04:33] <geoffmcc> only uses irssi
[04:33]  * ActionParsnip uses pidgin and irssi
[04:33] <teddie> perl has net:ssh.. mirc has no ssh libraries
[04:33] <darkstar999> linux: what are you doing with the ssh connection? It just seems like mirc is a weird way to go
[04:33] <asdf-> hi, playing xvids stopped working... i have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed and up to date... anyone have any tips on how to fix this? same problem with movie player
[04:33] <tntc> to be fair, perl is a daunting language in a lot of ways
[04:34] <sahat> speaking of irssi is there any way to separate channel windows? Shifting between channels with ALT1 to ALT0 gets a bit tiresome
[04:34] <darkstar999> asdf-: have you tried VLC?
[04:34] <tntc> it wouldn't be my first choice for most projects that extend beyond half a dozen lines.
[04:34] <asdf-> darkstar999, yes... it doesn't work in vlc either
[04:34] <tntc> asdf-: you sure the video isn't just corrupted?
[04:34] <asdf-> xvids that i watched a couple days ago dont work now
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> ssureshot: could split the terminal if it supports it, not sure how it would work with nicks
[04:35] <sahat> @ActionParsnip it creates a new nickname with underscore
[04:35] <teddie> linux, since mirc has no ssh support or dlls, you will have to use a language which does, such as perl, ruby or python and find a dll you can use to glue python/etc to mirc, such as Python4mIRC.dll
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> sahat: hmm, i see
[04:36] <asdf-> teddie, are you looking for a new irc client?
[04:36] <teddie> no, i'm enjoying xchat :P
[04:36] <asdf-> jIRCii!09.22.09 [ static!orange.3a (dfault) ]
[04:36]  * ActionParsnip SSHs from work and uses irssi to pass the time :)
[04:36] <tntc> ActionParsnip: ssureshot: http://selcouth.com/irssi.php has some tips on splitting windows
[04:36] <linux> darkstar999: i can connect an mIRC socket to a ssh server but as soon as i try writing something it disconnects me saying protocol error
[04:37] <asdf-> tntc, any other tips?
[04:37] <asdf-> for playing xvids
[04:38] <teddie> lol@jircii site
[04:38] <teddie> nice to see a site with personality
[04:38] <geoffmcc> sahat: prob not what your looking for but i use highlight script so anytime my name is referenced it puts it in a window so i notice it, think it works on all channels connected to, so at least you dont have to switch back and forth to check on a reply
[04:38] <tntc> asdf-: try mplayer maybe...
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> tntc: I'm happy to ALT between channels :) I only use 3
[04:38] <asdf-> tntc, thanks
[04:39] <tntc> ActionParsnip: I use a screen -S irssi<n> for each IRC server, and then alt between screens as well.
[04:40] <Flynsarmy> i have a process running 'fuser' thats using up alot of cpu...anywehre from 70% to 9999%...is this ok? lol
[04:41] <clasificado> There is an off-topic ubuntu channel?
[04:42] <geoffmcc> !offtopic | clasificado
[04:42] <Untitled_only> yes ##ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <kandinski> hmm
[04:43] <kandinski> I can't move a window between displays because the gnome toolbar is in between them
[04:43] <Flynsarmy> anyone? having fuser running and using huge amounts of cpu is normal?
[04:43] <An-iSociaL> anyone working on arm ports? specifically tegra to be placed onto tabels
[04:44] <An-iSociaL> been trying to get a kernel compiled to run ubuntu native on a tablet
[04:44] <aeon-ltd> iirc there is ubuntu on arm as a project
[04:44] <sahat> what's the difficulty there?
[04:44] <An-iSociaL> difficulty is a stalling xorg on the tegra drivers from nvidia
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> !arm
[04:44] <somsip> aeon-ltd: I understand it's not going to be supported anymore
[04:45] <kandinski> how can I report a bug?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> !bug | kandinski
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> heh why not? ARM is the future of casual/regular computing
[04:45] <sahat> Oh but does runlevel 1 or 3 work otherwise on ARM/
[04:45] <kandinski> using two screens on 11.10, I can't drag an evince window from my laptop's screen to the external screen...
[04:45] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: thanks. I should check whether it's already been filed, right?
[04:46] <An-iSociaL> what im attempting is to install ubuntu onto a motorola xoom which currently runs android
[04:46] <Untitled_only> make sure your dragging to the right
[04:46] <somsip> aeon-ltd: Read that on www.raspberrypi.org but admittedly the !arm link suggests otherwise. hmmm
[04:46] <geoffmcc> kandinski: sounds like the other display is set to run on another xserver maybe?
[04:46] <An-iSociaL> ive compiled the kernel several times, it boots fine, if i dont try to start x it sits at a useless login
[04:47] <kandinski> geo, everything is vainilla, and it's an Intel 3000 card
[04:47] <kandinski> just using the Displays applet from the control center and the gear menu
[04:47] <An-iSociaL> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20127838-92/ubuntu-linux-eyes-tablet-territory/
[04:47] <An-iSociaL> i just saw ubuntu was trying to move to tablets to keep up
[04:47] <An-iSociaL> so i thought maybe someone from ubuntu would want to help
[04:48] <geoffmcc> kandinski: im just going by memory cause not doing so not, but when i had dual displays going there were 2 options, to have it run on a seperate x server (wich will block you from dragin to one or another) or another option, that i cant think what it was called
[04:48] <WanderingEnder> Is there a reason that a console app would pull in x11-common?
[04:49] <kandinski> geoffmcc: I remember those options from running nvidia
[04:49] <kandinski> geoffmcc: but right now I have configured nothing, this is out-of-the-box vainilla ubuntu
[04:49] <An-iSociaL> ok well seems there's nobody around who shares ubuntu's opinion
[04:49] <An-iSociaL> enjoy your x86
[04:49] <geoffmcc> kandinski: ah i thought i had it on my intel too, my bad
[04:50] <kandinski> geoffmcc: this is my first Intel laptop, so I don't know how it was before. But if it doesn't work out of the box, I rate it as a reportable bug.
[04:52] <geoffmcc> kandinski: you can file it, but you will probably find it will get triaged to invalid as its more of a config problem but i may be wrong.
[04:52] <kandinski> geoffmcc: precisely if it is a config problem, then it is an Ubuntu bug
[04:53] <kandinski> geoffmcc, if it were a software problem, then it could be an upstream bug
[04:53] <kandinski> in any case, I am going to ask around before posting it
[04:53] <kandinski> geoffmcc: thanks
[04:56] <milamber1> i remember at some point there was talk about having a guest account that would revert on logout. does this exist anyone else remember it?
[04:57] <Pilif12p> now my sound isn't working at all
[04:57] <Pilif12p> except when i press backspace too much, it beeps
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> does extundelete recover deleted files of a deleted user?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Pilif12p: did you update or clean install ocelot?
[05:00] <truesky> good evening everyone
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> evening
[05:00] <teddie> evening lotuspsychje
[05:01] <truesky> ok, got an interesting question. How would you do a reinstall of a base server, once it has been installed like minimal install
[05:01] <kl4m_> lotuspsychje, I see no obvious reason it could not, the owner is nothing more than a number attribute of the file
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> whats the best package to recover deleted files on a deleted user?
[05:01] <truesky> for ubuntu 10.04
[05:01] <truesky> .03
[05:01] <kl4m_> I have never use extundelete though
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> kl4m_:extundelete says the path is not correct (the home dir i deleted for that user)
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> truesky: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-server
[05:02] <milamber> !undelete | lotuspsychje
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> truesky: hmm
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> milamber: that working for deleted users too?
[05:03] <milamber> lotuspsychje: files are files. how long ago did you delete the user?
[05:03] <anoom> hiii
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> truesky: once you have the minimal install its basically the server, you can add the services you want
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> milamber: like couple days
[05:03] <anoom> ^.^
[05:04] <milamber> lotuspsychje: have you used the machine? if so, you probably aren't going to have much success
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> milamber: yes
 got it. I was wondering since I wanted to have the packages that come with the regular server install
[05:05] <yesh> Has Anyone Had A Problem Using Built In Mic With Skype?
[05:05] <milamber> lotuspsychje: well, the best thing to do is to mount the fs read only to prevent doing further damage, but if you have been using it for a few days there is little chance anything usable will be left.
[05:06] <milamber> !details | yesh
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> milamber: ok tnx for help anyway, ill try to not ignore 'keep files on the user' next time
[05:06] <cbwcjw> Hello! I switched my menu buttons (close,minimise,maximise) to the right side, decided against it, and now I can't figure out how to switch them back
[05:06] <Untitled_only> system settings
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> cheers
[05:06] <milamber> lotuspsychje: good luck
[05:07] <yesh> Alrigh...Well I Just Switched From Windows To Ubuntu...Downloaded Skype n The Call Receiver Cant Seem To Hear Anything I Say
[05:07] <truesky> ActionParsnip: ok, that did not worked... Got could not find package
[05:07] <yesh> Same Goes For Google Talk
[05:08] <kandinski> yesh, looks like your microphone may be muted
[05:08] <ubuntu-noob> greetings all,
[05:08] <Untitled_only> hey noob
[05:08] <sagarchalise> yesh, check that your input is not muted in sound settings
[05:08] <oobiloz> Hi
[05:08] <milamber> yesh: i believe the mic is muted by default, click on the sound icon >> sound preferences >> click on input tab ~~ is the mic muted? (is the box checked?)
[05:08] <milamber> >>
[05:08] <yesh> Kandi: Nope...It Works Fine On The Sound Recorder Thing
[05:08] <cbwcjw> Untitled_only: Where in system settings? I can't exactly find that anywhere
[05:09] <ubuntu-noob> i am having a problem with getting something called OpenGL or GLX to run on my system. im running the most recent Ubuntu on an Alienware m14x with a nVidia graphics card
[05:09] <yesh> cbwcjw: Top Right
[05:09] <wolfman3k5> how do I prebent apt-get upgrade from upgrading the kernel?
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> truesky: yeah, you pretty much have the server install now, just install the services you want
[05:09] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: you still there?
[05:09] <Untitled_only> appearance / theme /ui
[05:09] <kandinski> yesh, go to sound settings anyway, and check whether it is amplified, unamplified, or muted
[05:09] <kl4m_> !pinning
[05:09] <cbwcjw> darkstar999: yep
[05:09] <truesky> ActionParsnip: so I guess there is no way to get the services then
[05:09] <kandinski> the sound recording thingy might be using another virtual audio switchboard
[05:10] <truesky> ActionParsnip: oh well, guess I have to do it manually then
[05:10] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: give me 1 sec, I will find what you need
[05:10] <Untitled_only> unless your using compiz
[05:10] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: oh never mind
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> truesky: sure, just install them like you would any other package
[05:11] <OldOneEye> hi im having problems with my server connecting to my local area network, cables are all ok but i cant ping anything
[05:11] <OldOneEye> all network settings r correct
[05:11] <ubuntu-noob> i am having a problem with getting something called OpenGL or GLX to run on my system. im running the most recent Ubuntu on an Alienware m14x with a nVidia graphics card
[05:11] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: Open gconf-editor
[05:12] <cbwcjw> darkstar999: I'm there, at button_layout in metacity
[05:12] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: ah
[05:12] <OldOneEye> can anyone help me?
[05:12] <darkstar999> close,minimize,maximize:
[05:13] <geoffmcc> ubuntu-noob: have you gone to additional drivers and activated your nvidia driver
[05:13] <Untitled_only> ubuntu-noob: are you using compiz? if so check the settings
[05:13] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: make sure the colon is on the end
[05:13] <yesh> kandi: Analog Microphone...Fully Amplified (Past 100%) Not On Mute
[05:13] <ubuntu-noob> compiz? whats that?
[05:13] <OldOneEye> hi im having problems with my server connecting to my local area network, cables are all ok but i cant ping anything all network settings r correct
[05:13] <Untitled_only> graphics manager
[05:13] <cbwcjw> darkstar999: Thank you, thank you.
[05:13] <teddie> can you ping your router?
[05:14] <ubuntu-noob> i havent downloaded it so how do i get it?
[05:14] <darkstar999> cbwcjw: no problemo
[05:15] <geoffmcc> ubuntu-noob: have you gone to additional drivers and activated your nvidia driver
[05:15] <Untitled_only> first go to system settings/ additional drivers. it should scan for new hardware
[05:15] <ubuntu-noob> k doing that now
[05:16] <Untitled_only> geoffmcc: guess were racing to help....
[05:16] <geoffmcc> Untitled_only: if were racing, i guess i won ;-)
[05:16] <anoom> @OldOneEye try down - up your ethernet interface
[05:16] <ubuntu-noob> i have two nvidia drivers.....a current version and a post current one
[05:16] <OldOneEye> yes
[05:16] <OldOneEye> i had cable plugged into wrong ethx
[05:16] <OldOneEye> lol
[05:16] <Untitled_only> I guess, but your lucky im working from my ipod touch
[05:17] <geoffmcc> ubuntu-noob: enable the current version
[05:17] <nullily> 什么 啊
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-noob: which nvidia gpu do you use?
[05:17] <teddie> OldOneEye, now you must pay the stupid fee :p
[05:17] <ubuntu-noob> gpu?
[05:17] <nullily> fuck you
[05:17] <geoffmcc> !language | nullily
[05:17] <oobiloz> .
[05:17] <Untitled_only> B-)
[05:17] <nullily> fuck you
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-noob: install the nvidia-current
[05:18] <wolfman3k5> how do I prebent apt-get upgrade from upgrading the kernel?
[05:18] <Untitled_only> nullily~ they going to boot you out
[05:19] <irc-free> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-noob: if you run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:19] <irc-free> anyone know how to fix softwre mode_
[05:19] <irc-free> ?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-noob: you will get the 285 driver, may help with your fairly recent nvidia GPU
[05:19] <ubuntu-noob> ok
[05:19] <Untitled_only> disable automatic updates
[05:19] <irc-free> im in software mode, i dont have opengl enabled
[05:20] <vuarabei> i just installed 285 driver)
[05:21] <geoffmcc> ActionParsnip: i was going to suggest that as well, but i was worried as some of the newer cards are having problems with the new driver, or maybe i just misunderstood
[05:21] <vuarabei> where to enable opengl?
[05:21] <irc-free> hi, i have an old card radeon x1950pro
[05:21] <irc-free> and i lost 3d
[05:21] <ubuntu-noob> ActionParsnip: i got the repo now what?
[05:21] <irc-free> i only have software mode . anyone know how to enable opengl?
[05:21] <yesh> So No One Else Has Had A Prob With Their Built In Mic?
[05:22] <irc-free> i have to install open source drivers i think , since that card isnot supported
[05:22] <geoffmcc> ubuntu-noob: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:23] <vuarabei> no noob
[05:23] <irc-free> geoffmcc is there an ati apt-get ?
[05:23] <vuarabei> go to sinaptic and there just type nvidia
[05:23] <vuarabei> and choose 285
[05:23] <irc-free> to install open source ati driver?
[05:23] <h4ckm3> hello
[05:23] <geoffmcc> irc-free: not sure...checking
[05:23] <irc-free> k
[05:24] <irc-free> i dont know why but im only in software mode
[05:24] <irc-free> glxinfo | grep opengl shows software rasterizer only
[05:24] <irc-free> how do i enable DRI?
[05:25] <irc-free> hello?
[05:25] <irc-free> this is really annoying, i havent had opengl enabled months now
[05:25] <OldOneEye> im running an open ssh server, can someone try to connect 27.32.108.231 i wanna see if i port forward is correct
[05:25] <blackshirt> hello, irc-free..just ask your question if you have problem ?
[05:25] <irc-free> i do
[05:25] <irc-free> im stuck in software mode
[05:25] <teddie> yes, it works OldOneEye
[05:26] <irc-free> i dont have hardware acceleration
[05:26] <irc-free> how do i enable that?
[05:26] <OldOneEye> thanx bro
[05:26] <irc-free> ive tried doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, which only installed a lot of new packages, and created a new boot entry but didnt enable 3d
[05:26] <irc-free> now i have two ubuntus
[05:27] <irc-free> direct rendering: Yes
[05:27] <irc-free> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[05:27] <irc-free>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_fragment_program,
[05:28] <irc-free> i dont know if thatś  the error. I have an ATI card, and it says GL_NV_conditional_render
[05:28] <blackshirt> irc-free: i think you need reinstall graphics driver maybe.. what your vga card  ?
[05:28] <irc-free> ati radeon x1950
[05:28] <irc-free> i just found out that my card is not supported anymore by ubuntu 10.10
[05:28] <irc-free> open source driver is the only option
[05:29] <irc-free> but i dont know how to reinstall it
[05:29] <blackshirt> are you installing propetiary version driver for your ati's ?
[05:30] <irc-free> i tried but the propietary driver doesnt install
[05:30] <irc-free> the .run install doesnt recognize ubuntu maverick
[05:30] <irc-free> only 8.10
[05:31] <SudoSpider> anybody here?
[05:31] <bowo> im here
[05:32] <SudoSpider> do u know anything about the new ubuntu 11.10 update?
[05:32] <irc-free> well, anyone have suggestions?
[05:32] <geoffmcc> irc-free: sorry took so long
[05:32] <irc-free> do you have any suggestions?
[05:33] <SudoSpider> im tryin to figure out how to get back to the 11.4 ubuntu desktop
[05:33] <geoffmcc> irc-free: i believe your drivers are in ppa:xorg-edgers/drivers-only
[05:33] <vuarabei> how to eneble opengl?
[05:33] <irc-free> how do i install them?
[05:33] <bowo> is there someone who wants to help me about this http://paste.ubuntu.com/744927/
[05:33] <darkstar999> SudoSpider: In my opinion, if you are going backwards, go to 10.04. It is a Long Term Support release.
[05:34] <geoffmcc> irc-free: i could be wrong though, have no experience with the card, but if you dont see em you can always remove
[05:34] <SudoSpider> is the desktop the only thing that changes between them?
[05:34] <bowo> is there someone who wants to help me about this http://paste.ubuntu.com/744927/
[05:34] <irc-free> geoffmcc: how do i install those drivers? i dont see them on synaptic
[05:34] <usr13> irc-free: What version of Ubuntu do you have now?
[05:34] <geoffmcc> irc-free: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/drivers-only
[05:34] <irc-free> maverick
[05:34] <irc-free> 10.10
[05:34] <jose> #ubuntu  hello peoples would anyone know something or know someone who who i could get a hold of who would know about  the savage drivers for a IBM T22?
[05:34] <darkstar999> SudoSpider: there are lots of changes between them, or there wouldn't be new releases.
[05:35] <usr13> irc-free: And you just upgraded from 8.10?
[05:35] <bowo> is there someone who wants to help me about this http://paste.ubuntu.com/744927/
[05:35] <somsip> bowo: you really are better off asking in a ruby channel
[05:35] <irc-free> geoffmcc: no, i only have installed 10.10
[05:36] <irc-free> i mentioned 8.10 because that's the last ubuntu that supports my old card
[05:36] <irc-free> x1950pro
[05:36] <bowo> thanks
[05:36] <irc-free> ok, what next?
[05:36] <blackshirt> irc-free: what' glxinfo says ?
[05:36] <irc-free> lots of numbers
[05:36] <irc-free> anything specific should it say?
[05:37] <irc-free> it says software rasterizer
[05:38] <irc-free> what do i do after sudo add-apt-get
[05:38] <geoffmcc> irc-free: after added the ppa do sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <irc-free> then?
[05:38] <irc-free> i just did all that
[05:38] <irc-free> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade too?
[05:38] <irc-free> i did that
[05:38] <stepnjump> What's this command again to append a line at the end of a text file from the terminal again?
[05:39] <usr13> irc-free: glxinfo |pastebinit
[05:39] <irc-free> what that did, was create another entry
[05:39] <irc-free> in boot
[05:39] <stepnjump> sorry for redundant 'again'
[05:39] <irc-free> i now have two ubuntus in the boot menu
[05:39] <irc-free> the new one, doesnt have internet enabled
[05:39] <irc-free> itś a mess
[05:39] <blackshirt> irc-free: on direct-rendering part ? it says yes ?
[05:39] <Untitled_only> |-)
[05:39] <OldOneEye> how do i install xwin with kde
[05:40] <irc-free> blackshirt: yes it says direct rendering: yes
[05:40] <irc-free> but its stuck on software rasterizer
[05:40] <somsip> OldOneEye: in what way are you using this with Ubuntu?
[05:41] <OldOneEye> im installing it on my ubuntu server
[05:41] <OldOneEye> 11.10
[05:41] <blackshirt> irc-free: try to install libgl1-mesa-dri packages
[05:41] <OldOneEye> bad idea?
[05:41] <irc-free> ill try
[05:41] <irc-free> on apt-get or synaptic?
[05:41] <OldOneEye> i got this 5u server im experimenting with and trying to learn linux on
[05:42] <somsip> !xwin
[05:42] <OldOneEye> !xwin
[05:42] <blackshirt> irc-free: feel free
[05:42] <somsip> OldOneEye: I can only find references to xwin relating to Win32. Am I missing something?
[05:42] <irc-free> another thing
[05:42] <irc-free> what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[05:43] <irc-free> here, it downloaded lots of packages, and asked a reboot. and now i see two ubuntu entries
[05:43] <blackshirt> irc-free: it would upgrade your current release
[05:43] <blackshirt> irc-free: not a matter, feel free to try upgraded version
[05:44] <hilarie> bleh, I don't know as though this is the place for this, but here goes, my baby website is working from localhost, but it isn't working from my IP address, my router should be configured properly(no easy way to test this, but it seems right) but it is still innaccessable from the outside, ideas?
[05:45] <usr13> irc-free: lsb_release -a |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL
[05:47] <irc-free> http://pastebin.com/R6BPr17a
[05:47] <OldOneEye> whats the best gui for ubuntu server
[05:47] <hilarie> pings are even going through when pinging the domain name(properly even)
[05:47] <hilarie> OldOneEye there isn't really, CLI it up, or install desktop
[05:47] <usr13> irc-free: glxinfo |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[05:47] <hilarie> OldOneEye you can even install desktop, on top of the server :)
[05:47] <irc-free> http://pastebin.com/R6BPr17a
[05:47] <irc-free> urs13: http://pastebin.com/R6BPr17a
[05:48] <irc-free> sorry
[05:48] <Untitled_only> has anyone tryed bt5?
[05:48] <irc-free> http://pastebin.com/Z2HNzV4b
[05:49] <blackshirt> hilarie: i think you need setup webserver machine correctly to be accessible from out the world
[05:49] <hilarie> blackshirt as far as I can tell, I have!
[05:50] <brjannc> hilarie: your webserver is at the very least talking back to me
[05:50] <irc-free> usr13: http://pastebin.com/Z2HNzV4b
[05:50] <hilarie> brjannc are you getting the php page?
[05:50] <brjannc> hilarie: it's not responding via web browser, but the port is open and responding to http requests.
[05:51] <Untitled_only> goodnight, till 2morrow
[05:51] <stepnjump> How can I append a few characters at the end of /etc/fstab straight straight from command line. Was it cat??? I forget...
[05:51] <hilarie> brjannc via webbrowser its just timing out for you as well?
[05:51] <hilarie> stepnjump echo
[05:51] <usr13> stepnjump: cat >> /etc/fstab
[05:52] <hilarie> stepnjump wait, echo overwrites I think
[05:52] <brjannc> hilarie: yep. but it's not a router issue; I'd suspect a misconfiguration of httpd, or an error in your PHP
[05:52] <stepnjump> usr13, I know >> but that's not what I'm looking for
[05:52] <hilarie> brjannc and if its working from localhost, its probably httpd?
[05:52] <usr13> stepnjump: So, what are you looking for?
[05:53] <brjannc> hilarie: Seems likely, yes. Using apache?
[05:53] <hilarie> brjannc yes
[05:53] <usr13> stepnjump: vim ?
[05:53] <bobweaver> Hello there I would like to make this http://imagebin.org/184979        my deafult unity setting. So when I click on the ubuntu thingy I will get that.
[05:53] <bobweaver> Thanks ^^
[05:53] <stepnjump> I am lazy and am trying to type something like insert_command mount /dev/sdb3 /mount TO /etc/fstab type of thing
[05:53] <bobweaver> anyone know how ?
[05:54] <stepnjump> well vim is a text editor no?
[05:54] <stepnjump> let me try the vim command
[05:54] <bobweaver> !vim
[05:54] <brjannc> hilarie: Okay, now the port is unresponsive. Take a look at the end of your apache logs in /var/log/apache, specifically access.log and error.log, and see if there's anything useful there
[05:54] <stepnjump> hilarie, how do you use echo?
[05:54] <irc-free> any luck?
[05:54] <irc-free> usr13: any luck?
[05:55] <stepnjump> I used to know... forgot!
[05:55] <irc-free> seems like this is hopeless
[05:55] <hilarie> stephnjump pretty sure it deletes the file and rewrites it
[05:55] <hilarie> brjannc gedit /var/log/apache opened up an empty file
[05:56] <brjannc> hilarie: yes, that's a directory :) the logs are /var/log/apache/error.log and /var/log/apache/access.log I believe
[05:56] <blackshirt> setphnjump: you can use echo "someting" | tee -a >> /some/files
[05:56] <blackshirt> setphnjump: try it before
[05:56] <somsip> hilarie: /var/log/apache2/
[05:56] <brjannc> hilarie, somsip: oops
[05:57] <irc-free> hello?
[05:57] <bobweaver> blackshirt: the one > means replace the whole file and the >> means add to the end?
[05:57] <irc-free> i did the glxinfo
[05:57] <hilarie> somsip when going in manually noticed that :)
[05:57] <somsip> hilarie: k
[05:57] <usr13> Sorry, have to go
[05:57] <brjannc> bobweaver: yep
[05:57] <bobweaver> brjannc:  thanks
[05:57] <brjannc> bobweaver: sure thing
[05:58] <hilarie> My access logs are only show 127.0.0.1
[05:58] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , my peers on LAN are not able to access my machines port 80 by doing http://192.168.1.10
[05:58] <bobweaver> brjannc:  I always get them confused O_o
[05:58] <silv3r_m00n> what is blocking that ?
[05:58] <hilarie> does ubuntu have some sort of internal firewall?
[05:58] <blackshirt> bobweaver: yeah, >> add to the last line
[05:59] <kierkkadon> I have a question/issue
[05:59] <bobweaver> !ufw >> hilarie
[05:59] <brjannc> hilarie: That's odd; I got a 200 OK response after requesting /index.htm, so it should have logged that...
[05:59] <bobweaver> !ufw |  hilarie
[05:59] <kierkkadon> I am running kubuntu; I tried GNOME3 and it didn't really stick with me
[05:59] <kierkkadon> I'd kind of like to remove it to free up space; how do I do that?
[06:00] <blackshirt> kierkkadon: i think you make a "redundant"
[06:00] <darkstar999> kierkkadon: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <sinisterstuf> hilarie, you might find it easier to use Firestarter, a graphical tool to manage your firewall, maybe have a look at that if you don't like the first 2 suggestions
[06:00] <hilarie> sinisterstuf I mostly want to kill it if I have one, would the default firewall be blocking port 80?
[06:00] <kierkkadon> blackshirt, I don't really know what that means
[06:00] <bobweaver> hilarie: no
[06:01] <kierkkadon> darkstar999, that sounds slightly like a troll response...I don't want to remove kubuntu
[06:01] <somsip> hilarie: possibly something in hosts allow/deny in the /etc/apache2/sites/available/default file?
[06:01] <kierkkadon> Also, today is my first day of ever using linux at all.
[06:01] <sinisterstuf> no hilarie, and killing the whole firewall is a bad idea, it's better to unblock whichever port you want to use. it's more likely that port 80 is already in use by something else.
[06:01] <blackshirt> kerkkadon: install gnome on kde like a "bloated" step
[06:02] <kierkkadon> blackshirt, Oh, I see. Well, how do I remove it?
[06:02] <irc-free> nobody knows how to fix my problem then
[06:02] <darkstar999> kierkkadon: sorry, I read that wrong
[06:02] <kierkkadon> darkstar999, Oh, okay.
[06:02] <brjannc> hilarie: netstat --tcp -lp | pastebinit
[06:02] <hilarie> somsip lemma pastebin that
[06:03] <hilarie> brjannc and that
[06:03] <gaelfx> I have an Asus EeePC 1001p and my microphone doesn't work, although in sound settings it isn't muted, and also in alsamixer it doesn't appear muted, so any ideas how I can get it working?
[06:03] <sinisterstuf> kierkkadon, well then sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell gnome
[06:03] <bobweaver> kierkkadon: you want to remopve all kde or all gnome ?>
[06:03] <bobweaver> !purekde
[06:03] <kalamajo> I have arrived at the conclusion that wireless internet is impossible on ubuntu. I have been working off and on for 3 days trying to get a NetGear WNDA3100 v2 wirless dongle to work, then i tried to get a realtek pci 8190 card to work.. neither of them work at all
[06:03] <kierkkadon> bobweaver, All gnome
[06:03] <bobweaver> !puregnome | kierkkadon
[06:03] <hilarie> somsip http://paste.ubuntu.com/744940/
[06:03] <kalamajo> I even formated and downgraded to 11.04
[06:04] <kalamajo> from 11.10
[06:04] <blackshirt> kierkkadon: you can search your gnome3 packages through kde software center, type gnome3 on search box, and purge/remove if installed
[06:04] <kierkkadon> So far I'm liking the !purekde response from bobweaver
[06:04] <grendal-prime> ok im just building a machine and doing the upgrade to see what its going to do..
[06:05] <grendal-prime> 10.04-11.10 that is.
[06:05] <hilarie> brjannc http://paste.ubuntu.com/744942/
[06:05] <somsip> hilarie: looks normal. What is the external IP to hit this site?
[06:05] <bobweaver> kierkkadon: everytime I have done that I have to alter the remove --purge list
[06:05] <hilarie> mwa.ofketchikan.com
[06:05] <mysteriousdarren> would it be better to get a brand new router or one of the business cisco routers?
[06:05] <hilarie> somsip or 206.223.219.135
[06:06] <bobweaver> kierkkadon: I cp and paste to a txt file and wait for it to say that it ccan not find a package
[06:06] <hilarie> mysteriousdarren for?
[06:06] <somsip> hilarie: and the output of ifconfig?
[06:06] <kierkkadon> bobweaver, Ah, I see. So far so good on ubuntu
[06:06] <somsip> hilarie: ignore that - saw the IP now
[06:06] <bobweaver> kierkkadon:  works 100%
[06:06] <stepnjump> What is the default password for su -, isn't it supposed to be the same as root pasw? su -  >>  su: Authentication failure
[06:07] <hilarie> somsip http://paste.ubuntu.com/744944/
[06:07] <bobweaver> stepnjump: ubuntu dont work like that
[06:07] <irc-free> how do i enable opengl?
[06:07] <bobweaver> stepnjump: the "root"  is locked
[06:07] <irc-free> do i have to delete the entire ubuntu and install a new one?
[06:07] <bobweaver> well that root
[06:07] <brjannc> hilarie: sudo service apache2 restart
[06:07] <mysteriousdarren> hilarie: just basic use, I have two that I am looking at on tigerdirect.com one is a brand new dlink extreme n the other is a cisco buisness refurb.
[06:07] <Besogon> Hey!! Anyone who czn help me to join a domain!!! I need YOU
[06:07] <somsip> hilarie: and you have a mapped host (or whatever) on your router to redirect all incoming :80 traffic to 192.168.1.3?
[06:07] <mysteriousdarren> plus some gaming of course too
[06:08] <kierkkadon> bobweaver, Thanks, this is exactly what I came here fore.
[06:08] <hilarie> somsip done
[06:08] <hilarie> somsip ack, its to 10, which is what I should be bydefault
[06:08] <hilarie> moment
[06:08] <stepnjump> bobweaver, so there's no way to run su?
[06:09] <d3m0nk> hey guys after 11.10 my copy paste dialog dissapeared?
[06:09] <bobweaver> stepnjump:  sudo -i
[06:09] <hilarie> mwa.ofketchikan.com
[06:09] <d3m0nk> x windows gulped my copy paste dialog... help!!!!!!
[06:09] <bobweaver> is safer ^^
[06:09] <hilarie> will you try it now somsip?
[06:09] <gaelfx> I need help getting my microphone to work, it appears to be enabled in pulse and alsamixer, but when I try to test it, I get nothing, can anyone help?
[06:09] <stepnjump> oh yes ok thanks bobweaver
[06:09] <brjannc> hilarie: working for me now
[06:09] <shernsie> kalamjo, might be a bit premature for that conclusion...when you attach to your computer, you dont see any activity in the top right of your screen?
[06:10] <kalamajo> no
[06:10] <hilarie> mysteriousdarren anything will work really, buy one with wanted features
[06:10] <somsip> hilarie: getting sometorrent stats now (ignore msg)
[06:10] <hilarie> brjannc thank you
[06:10] <d3m0nk> gnome 3 copy paste window dissapearance... anyone?
[06:10] <kalamajo> shernsie: no
[06:10] <kalamajo> shernsie: i am too stubborn to give up
[06:11] <hilarie> now to see if it works :) thanks guys
[06:11] <kalamajo> shernsie: i am still working on it
[06:11] <somsip> hilarie: np
[06:11] <kalamajo> I just bought a cheap wifi dongle off amazon that claims to be compatiable with linux
[06:11] <brjannc> hilarie: I'm still confused why I had originally gotten a response, though -- that means the port forward was working momentarily
[06:11] <kalamajo> but the hardware i have laying around wont work with linux
[06:12] <kalamajo> i have done a decent amount of research and I think I might have to compile a driver myself
[06:12] <hilarie> brjannc wondering if its my router is open to remote config? thats gotta have a baby webserver in it just for that
[06:12] <kalamajo> or whatever
[06:12] <kalamajo> i am a newb
[06:12] <gaelfx> testing
[06:12] <brjannc> hilarie: usually those things aren't listening on port 80, it's usually like 8080 or something. But it's possible
[06:13] <makara> forgot apache ftp details. channel invite only. help.
[06:13] <d3m0nk> x window ate my copy paste dialog... in gnome 3... ANYBODY... has ANY idea how to fix this?
[06:13] <shernsie> kalamajo do you have propietary drivers enabled?
[06:13] <kalamajo> hmm
[06:13] <kalamajo> i dont think they are any
[06:13] <kalamajo> but i will try
[06:13] <shernsie> i guaranee you there are drivers o make your card work
[06:13] <shernsie> hold on ill find them
[06:14] <gaelfx> if anyone can read this, please say so
[06:14] <somsip> gaelfx: response
[06:14] <kalamajo> i bet you a bitcoin there isnt
[06:14] <hilarie> gaelfx sup homeslice
[06:14] <gaelfx> somsip: thanks
[06:14] <kalamajo> [drivers made specifically for linux]
[06:14] <gaelfx> hilarie: thanks
[06:14] <bobweaver> Hello there I would like to make this http://imagebin.org/184979 my deafult unity setting. So when I click on the ubuntu thingy I will get that.
[06:14] <bobweaver> anyone know how ?
[06:15] <bobweaver> /ect/xdg/menu/unity.whatever ?
[06:16] <d3m0nk> to whoever is having wifi driver issues here...
[06:16] <d3m0nk> try ndiswrapper
[06:16] <shernsie> kalamjo when you plug in the cards you don't see this? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17495/how-to-add-proprietary-drivers-to-ubuntu-10.04/
[06:16] <shernsie> and i second ndiswrapper but all broadcom and atheros devices should work out the box
[06:16] <kalamajo> shernsie, yah I see that for my 5850 video card
[06:16] <kalamajo> but not anything wifi related
[06:17] <shernsie> ok
[06:17] <gaelfx> does picasa work reasonably well in 11.10 or is it a disaster with unity?
[06:17] <kalamajo> i tried to use ndiswrapper
[06:18] <d3m0nk> if its broadcom you may have luck if you try an update with a wired connection
[06:18] <shernsie> also have you tried this http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/image119.png
[06:18] <kalamajo> i think my version uses broadcom chipset
[06:18] <d3m0nk> it will probably ask you to install additional drivers by default
[06:18] <bobweaver> kalamajo:  lspci -nn | grep Network
[06:18] <bobweaver> or kalamajo
[06:18] <kalamajo> 03:06.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8190]
[06:19] <bobweaver> kalamajo:  lspci -nn | grep 14e4               <-- if brodcom card
[06:19] <kalamajo> i have my usb one disconnected
[06:19] <kalamajo> but i can reconnect
[06:19] <bobweaver> kalamajo: p[lug in and
[06:19] <kalamajo> lsusb
[06:19] <bobweaver> !paste | kalamajo
[06:19] <kalamajo> or something
[06:19] <bobweaver> kalamajo:  yes
[06:20] <bobweaver> lsusb
[06:20] <d3m0nk> ubottu, lick #gnome
[06:20] <bobweaver> lol
[06:20] <kalamajo> should i install updates?
[06:20] <kalamajo> err
[06:20] <bobweaver> kalamajo:  what O_0
[06:20] <kalamajo> haa
[06:20] <kalamajo> i just formated
[06:21] <d3m0nk> kalamajo, try updating
[06:21] <kalamajo> i installed 10.10 with and without updates
[06:21] <kalamajo> then i formated
[06:21] <kalamajo> and downgraded to 10.04.3
[06:21] <d3m0nk> and then run Additional Drivers
[06:21] <bobweaver> Oo
[06:22] <d3m0nk> enable any wifi drivers if its available
[06:22] <kalamajo> i did that because i was following a tutorial on the forums
[06:22] <d3m0nk> or try ndiswrapper
[06:22] <shernsie> kalamjo this shouldnt be nec but if you have to use ndiswrapper he is the guide for your card, assuming you have a windows box working: http://growingtheneurons.blogspot.com/2011/05/getting-netgear-wnda3100v2-to-work-on.html
[06:22] <kalamajo> and i wanted to follow everythign they did
[06:22] <kalamajo> [thats the tutorial i followed]
[06:23] <kalamajo> i think its because he has the atheros chipset and i have broadcom
[06:23] <kalamajo> iam also runnign 64 bit
[06:23] <kalamajo> 32 bit wont install on this machione
[06:23] <kalamajo> it hangs
[06:25] <shernsie> and youve installed ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9, and ndiswrapper-common ?
[06:25] <kalamajo> yeah all 3
[06:27] <cyborgsmurf> Hi all! I'm trying to burn a DVD image using brasero or k3d but they both say "please insert an empty DVD- or Blueray media" even when I have a DVD... HELP PLS!
[06:28] <teddie> is the dvd blank?
[06:29] <cyborgsmurf> teddie: of course
[06:30] <kalamajo> i know back in the day burners were sensitive to brands of writable media
[06:30] <Stanley00> cyborgsmurf: make sure your DVD drive can read the disk, it happened to me sometimes in the past, just remove and re insert the dvd disk, and hope ;)
[06:30] <kalamajo> dirty lens?
[06:31] <Stanley00> kalamajo: maybe...
[06:31] <kalamajo> i rememeber having to update my firmware to burn a CD-R in 1997
[06:32] <kalamajo> because i had memorex CD's
[06:32] <shernsie> kalamjo are you using the windows xp drivers and not win7
[06:32] <kalamajo> yeah winXP
[06:32] <hilarie> Okay, interesting question, have DHT and PEX off, on a torrent with (1) tracker (mine) and 1 seed... how is it finding other peers?
[06:32] <kalamajo> i installed Wine to get the drivers
[06:33] <cyborgsmurf> Stanley00: it says the same thing on two computers
[06:33] <shernsie> and im assuming ouve seen this post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383708
[06:34] <shernsie> with winxp 64 drivers downloaded this should work
[06:34] <Besogon> people! Anybody who have a deal with samba and domain!!
[06:34] <kalamajo> yeah I tried that one
[06:35] <kalamajo> I think its because we have same model number USB dongle, but inside there are different chipsets
[06:35] <brjannc> Besogon: ask your question, and we'll see if we can help
[06:35] <kalamajo> i think im going to try the tutorial again
[06:35] <kalamajo> tho
[06:35] <tasslehoff> I have a dual monitor setup and run my laptop in 1600x900. I've uninstalled the restricted drivers to make gnome shell work, but the default driver doesn't offer 1600x900 for the laptop, though it supports it.
[06:36] <cyborgsmurf> kalamajo: no, I have just watched a DVD-movie
[06:36] <brjannc> Besogon: though, if it's anything more than a simple question, you might have more luck asking in #samba :)
[06:36] <Besogon> brjannc: I need to join a domain And can't do it. I could give all the information I have. (Here is an error "Could not initialise lsa pipe") all other info I could post if you need
[06:37] <judh> please any one guide me when I have been installling the texmaker i am getting the error. please see the screenshot http://imagebin.org/184984
[06:37] <judh> http://imagebin.org/184984 see the screen
[06:38] <shernsie> one more link though this is a bit lengthy http://polach.cc/howto-fix-broadcom-wifi-adapter-wpa-network-access-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx
[06:38] <Besogon> brjannc: Yes. I've asked already. Silence
[06:39] <brjannc> Besogon: k. I'm not familiar with that error, just doing a little looking around in the usual places
[06:39] <judh> I could not understand what it is when we run the texmaker: http://imagebin.org/184984
[06:40] <Besogon> brjannc: Could you look on my conf files then? May be you notice that something is wrong.
[06:41] <brjannc> Besogon: Sure. smb.conf, krb5.conf, and ldap.conf, if you're using LDAP
[06:41] <Besogon> brjannc: give me a second
[06:41] <brjannc> Besogon: no hurry
[06:42] <judh> how to install the unmet dependencies
[06:42] <judh> how to install the unmet dependencies
[06:43] <brjannc> Besogon: (also, make sure you edit out any sensitive info out of those before pastebinning, since we're talking about authentication methods)
[06:43] <stepnjump> Does anybody know about any good fax app that would run on ubuntu?
[06:45] <brjannc> Besogon: oh, and nsswitch.conf too, please
[06:45] <Besogon> OK
[06:48] <Besogon> brjannc: I'm ready: look here is a list of samba users (I've done rak$ as it is advised from Samba How-to): http://pastebin.com/q2vsR2jJ
[06:48] <nbros652> anyone here, I have a samba server set up on an Ubuntu 10.04 server. I have quotas in place to prevent people from using all of the drive space, but I would also like to impose filesize limits. I found and edited the limits.conf file, but I'm still able to upload files larger than what I specified. Am I missing something?
[06:48] <Besogon> brjannc: here is samba testparm: http://pastebin.com/8hJgrs7p
[06:48] <Besogon> brjannc: it is nsswith.conf: http://pastebin.com/4LsJpqZ8
[06:49] <Besogon> brjannc: And the error I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/qWbqfZ5d
[06:49] <kalamajo> okay gotta reboot brb
[06:49] <Besogon> brjannc: System administrator give me riight to join the domain.
[06:50] <Besogon> and winbindd and samba daemons are stopped
[06:50] <brjannc> Besogon: okay, how about krb5.conf?
[06:51] <Besogon> brjannc: I don't think we are using it. hm... We don't install something specific on XP. I'm gonna ask him just now
[06:52] <brjannc> Besogon: I've always been under the impression that kerberos is required for AD integration -- but I'm not a wizard
[06:53] <Besogon> brjannc: yes. Here is only a domain. Without kerberos. Have noticed something strange???
[06:54] <brjannc> Besogon: Oh, I see. No, not yet, still trying to determine exactly what you're trying to do :) So you're not looking for user authentication against AD, just shares?
[06:55] <Besogon> brjannc: Yes. Iwant to join domain.
[06:55] <brjannc> Besogon: Hm. I still think you need kerberos up and working first...
[06:56] <brjannc> Besogon: Which tutorial have you been following?
[06:56] <thornhill> I just installed lubuntu, but it doesn't show the users on the login screen. How do I show them?
[06:57] <Besogon> brjannc: Samba3-HOWTO Chapter 2 and Chapter 6
[06:57] <Besogon> official
[06:57] <brjannc> Besogon: okay, give me a few minutes to skim
[07:01] <thornhill> I just installed lubuntu, but it doesn't show the users on the login screen. How do I show them?
[07:04] <brjannc> Besogon: What kind of domain is this? NT4, 2k, 2k3, 2k8...?
[07:05] <Besogon> brjannc: It is working on Windows 2008. That's all I know. Hope it's NT4
[07:05] <stepnjump> thornhill if it's like ubuntu it should be system settings | login screen
[07:06] <stepnjump> system settings in ubuntu is located as an option when you press the shut down/log off button
[07:06] <blackshirt> brjannc: if you need "AD" on linux, you need samba4
[07:07] <thornhill> stepnjump: I don't see anything labeled system settings.
[07:07] <brjannc> blackshirt: you can get around that using openldap and kerberos for authentication, can't you?
[07:07] <futureleader> Hello guys who knows a website with free ebooks?
[07:07] <stepnjump> Which version are you using thornhill?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> blackshirt: I thought Samba only did the file sharing aspect, and LikewiseOpen did the directory server stuff?
[07:08] <blackshirt> brjannc: if just for client
[07:08] <stepnjump> This menu was phased out in ubuntu 11.10, that's why I kept my 11.04
[07:08] <blackshirt> tonnyarusso: if you want AD server you can use samba4
[07:08]  * brjannc nods
[07:08] <stepnjump> I'm running in classic mode
[07:08] <mah454> ubuntu-11.10 can not read my partition table (in installation) ...
[07:08] <blackshirt> samba3 was for nt4 domain
[07:08] <blackshirt> but you can use it for ad client
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> blackshirt: Huh, good to know.
[07:09] <brjannc> blackshirt: I believe that Besogon is attempting to add his machine as a domain member to an existing (we're hoping NT4) domain
[07:09] <mah454> i use laptop "HP Pavilion dm 1"
[07:10] <Besogon> нуфр
[07:10] <Besogon> yeah
[07:10] <stepnjump> Does anyone know how to bring up the system settings via term?
[07:11] <nbros652> anyone here, I have a samba server set up on an Ubuntu 10.04 server. I have quotas in place to prevent people from using all of the drive space, but I would also like to impose filesize limits. I found and edited the limits.conf file, but I'm still able to upload files larger than what I specified. Am I missing something?
[07:11] <brjannc> Besogon: search Chapter 6 for the section that starts "Finally, add (or modify) a password server"... You don't have a password server line in your smb.conf globals
[07:12] <nicatronTg> Apparently I've broken the permissions of my home directory
[07:12] <Besogon> ok
[07:12] <nicatronTg> and I can't fix them at all
[07:13] <brjannc> Besogon: seems like you can just use password server = * to let it auto-discover
[07:13] <blackshirt> tonnyarruso: i have implemented samba4 as AD server "replacement".. you can read it on their wiki
[07:14] <blackshirt> nbros652: samba share relies on filesystem (kernel) capabilites.. you have must configure filesystem to use quota, or limits
[07:15] <Besogon> brjannc: shit... not working
[07:15] <brjannc> Besogon: language, please :) but that's okay, that was just the first thing I noticed. still working through it
[07:15] <nbros652> blackshirt, okay, quotas are working. Do I have to set up something different to get limits working?
[07:17] <hilltop> hi I'm trzing to set up some kind of secured internet connection  sharing using a 3g modem - the issue is onece i connect my eth with a static IP - even though VPN is working than - i can't access internet anzmore because this eth. will be prefered over 3g - how and where can i change this preference?
[07:18] <sausagesquatch> hello
[07:18] <brjannc> Besogon: You might try specifying the PDC directly in the join command, as chapter 6 suggests: root# net rpc join -S DOMPDC -UAdministrator%password
[07:18] <blackshirt> nbros652: what your type partition used for share ?
[07:18] <brjannc> Besogon: where DOMPDC is the name of the PDC
[07:18] <nbros652> blackshirt, ext3
[07:18] <sausagesquatch> hello bugz
[07:18] <Guest42759> hi anyone know how to install compiz extras
[07:19] <Stanley00> Guest42759: just use Ubuntu Software Center didnt work?
[07:19] <hilltop> anybody experienced how to bridge a openVPN Server interface into a ppp0 connection which is not in /etc/networking but created by nm-manager ?
[07:19] <sausagesquatch> hello ruben
[07:19] <Besogon> brjannc: Thank you for your help. I've tried it already. Nothing works... I'll return to the problem later now I', a bit tired of ot
[07:19] <Besogon> it
[07:19] <Stanley00> Guest42759: but I dont think that a good idea, since compiz is not work very well with unity, in case you use oneiric
[07:20] <brjannc> Besogon: understandable. maybe next time you're in, someone who knows more about samba will be around :)
[07:20] <sausagesquatch> hello
[07:20] <melvincv> "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated" Ubuntu server gave me this message. What may I use instead of this command?
[07:21] <sausagesquatch> anyone know how to virtualize ubuntu on ubuntu server
[07:21] <rm-rf1> melvincv: try service networking restart instead
[07:21] <Gamoder> Hi - does anybody know a tool like foremost, but being able to recover .odt-files? (I unfotunately reformatted my /home-partition and there is one important .odt-file on it)
[07:22] <geoffmcc> melvincv: sudo service networking restart
[07:22] <geoffmcc> melvincv: actually, it may just be start/stop
[07:22] <Guest42759> stanley00 i useing ubuntu 11.10
[07:22] <melvincv> restart: Unknown instance: ?
[07:22] <Stanley00> Guest42759: well, if I was you, I wouldnt install compiz extras
[07:23] <humble1> does anyone have experience with gnunet
[07:23] <geoffmcc> melvincv: yea, its then stop and then start
[07:23] <Stanley00> !info testdisk | Gamoder
[07:23] <sausagesquatch> hello aberto
[07:23] <brjannc> Gamoder: here's some promising-looking info on using scalpel for odt files: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378119
[07:23] <melvincv> geoffmcc: I can't do that over ssh, can I?
[07:23] <Gamoder> Stanley00: Thanks - but I should add that it is an ext4-partition testdisk AFIK can't handle
[07:24] <geoffmcc> melvincv: no.
[07:24] <Gamoder> brjannc: Thanks, I'll have a look at that
[07:24] <geoffmcc> melvincv: there should be a restart option there, but there is probably another way. was just first alternative that came to my mind
[07:24] <blackshirt> nbros652: i think samba run as a root process
[07:24] <humble1> GnuNet says disconnected... no obvious way to connect
[07:24] <sausagesquatch> does anyone know how to virtualize ubuntu on ubuntu server
[07:25] <Guest42759> Stanley00 i was useing it befor with a wubi install of ubuntu 11.10  and it was working pretty good a lil bugy but not bad
[07:25] <odb|fidel> sausagesquatch: there are several ways
[07:25] <sausagesquatch> do tell
[07:25] <melvincv> So what may I do over ssh to make sure my new networking settings are applied? In fact the command works, it is just deprecated...
[07:25] <rm-rf1> sausagesquatch: probably KVM or Xen
[07:25] <libryder> is it a bad idea to give 775 to a directory served up by apache?
[07:25] <sausagesquatch> whats kvm
[07:26] <Stanley00> Guest42759: Idk, I just heard someone here said that unity doesnt work after active some compiz config, so I just warn you.
[07:26] <libryder> the directory is owned by www-data:www-data
[07:26] <rm-rf1> sausagesquatch: kernel based virtual mchine. Native linux feature for virtualization
[07:27] <libryder> but i want admin users to be able to edit directories owned by the group www-data
[07:27] <libryder> without having to sudo
[07:27] <humble1> what's the best p2p app 4 ubuntu... anyone?
[07:27] <Guest42759> Stanley00 ok thank
[07:27] <sausagesquatch> is it free  ? where do i get it
[07:27] <i_hypnotize> what is ubuntu
[07:27] <smw> libryder, then add them to the group.
[07:27] <nbros652> blackshirt, but even when I type in ulimits -a, I don't see the changes that I've made to the limits.conf file.
[07:27] <i_hypnotize> btw I am bored. asl everyone?
[07:28] <Stanley00> !offtopic | i_hypnotize
[07:28] <humble1> i_hypnotize, I can tell
[07:28] <melvincv> sausagesquatch: Virtualization software. Learn it yourself at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:28] <libryder> smw: the default permissions is 765 for apache so group members can't edit files
[07:29] <blackshirt> nbros652: i think you need a logoff to impose take effect
[07:29] <sausagesquatch> ok thanks
[07:29] <libryder> i was just wondering if there are any drawbacks to chmodding the directory to 775
[07:29] <nbros652> blackshirt, tried that. tried a reboot as well.
[07:30] <rm-rf1> sausagesquatch: yes, it is free. It's already built in kernel. You can manage virtual machnies from command line. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:30] <smw> libryder, nope. I would chmod file 664 and directories 775
[07:30] <libryder> cool thanks
[07:30] <libryder> just needed some quick validation :)
[07:30] <geoffmcc> clear
[07:30] <ThatOneDude> anyone have experience with ubuntu and broadcom 43x wlan cards?
[07:31] <SanusCompleo> Hey
[07:31] <SanusCompleo> I need some help
[07:31] <smw> libryder, normally what I do is make it so everything is owned by root and just give apache read access
[07:31] <SanusCompleo> Is anyone available?
[07:31] <SanusCompleo> I'm trying to install 11.10, but I'm having some serious difficulty with partitions.
[07:32] <brjannc> ThatOneDude: Have you gone through the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[07:32] <SanusCompleo> Yes I have
[07:32] <SanusCompleo> *kidding*
[07:32] <geoffmcc> ThatOneDude: my card is kaput, but if your trying to get driver to work just install firmware-b43-installer
[07:32] <SanusCompleo> So, if anyone has some spare time, please tell me?
[07:33] <brjannc> SanusCompleo: just ask whatever it is you need help with; if someone knows, they'll answer :)
[07:33] <SanusCompleo> Okay
[07:33] <sausagesquatch> anyone know what i should do i downloaded ubuntu but i cant buy a cd or usb stick how can i get these files on my drive in a way i can select os in the bios
[07:33] <SanusCompleo> I'm unable to move around my partitions.  I've got 4 of them, it's an HP laptop (Ugh),
[07:33] <ThatOneDude> alright, i'll give b43 a try...STA was a fail...after installing it through the "additional drivers" prompt, and the wlan option completely disappeared
[07:33] <blackshirt> SanusCompleo: just ask your question ..
[07:33] <smw> SanusCompleo, I had the same problem...
[07:33] <ThatOneDude> disregard that and
[07:33] <nbros652> blackshirt, I figured out why ulimit -a wasn't showing my changes... I was using su to access the user account for which changes were made, and that doesn't work.
[07:34] <SanusCompleo> And @ sausagesquatch Try getting wubi.  It's an installer that you can install from Windows, but it only gives you up to 30 GB storage.
[07:34] <Stanley00> sausagesquatch: maybe use wubi installer or some hack on the iso file
[07:34] <teddie> or virtualbox
[07:34] <SanusCompleo> Is there any way to move around the sizes of the partitions at least?
[07:34] <teddie> oh, native.. nevermind
[07:34] <smw> SanusCompleo, you need to delete the recovery partition
[07:34] <SanusCompleo> Or split one in half?  Or anything at all?
[07:34] <SanusCompleo> Okay, but when it's deleted, what do I do?
[07:35] <blackshirt> nbros652: try to read this http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26330&forum=41
[07:35] <SanusCompleo> Cause whatever leftover size goes to "unusable"
[07:35] <blackshirt> i think a same problem
[07:35] <sausagesquatch> im not very good yet but i do belive i used wubi to download whats the next step
[07:35] <nbros652> blackshirt, you must be right about the permissions that samba runs with. Thanks I'll look into this a little more and see if there's a way around this.
[07:35] <smw> SanusCompleo, once you delete a partition, everything else will function.
[07:35] <SanusCompleo> Yeah?
[07:35] <SanusCompleo> I think I'd rather delete HP_Tools.
[07:35] <SanusCompleo> Is that okay?
[07:35] <smw> I don't think that harms anything
[07:35] <Stanley00> sausagesquatch: I heard that you can make the BIOS boot from iso and install from that, but not sure, you can search internet for that
[07:35] <SanusCompleo> Excellent.  Merci
[07:36] <smw> SanusCompleo, I think that is part of recovery though...
[07:36] <sausagesquatch> whats iso
[07:36] <SanusCompleo> Everyone... WISH ME LUCK!
[07:36] <teddie> You can probably install via virtualbox by creating a vmdk which maps directly to the physical drive
[07:36] <teddie> but that's pretty dangerous :-)
[07:36] <smw> SanusCompleo, the issue is HP formatted the drive in a way that only allows 4 partitions.
[07:36] <SanusCompleo> Yeah.
[07:36] <smw> SanusCompleo, Windows boot, C:\, recovery, hp tools
[07:36] <SanusCompleo> It really sucks
[07:36] <smw> no room for linux!
[07:37] <bobslaede> Hey, can i easily switch from regular ubuntu to ubuntu-server?
[07:37] <blackshirt> nbros652: or this http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smbcquotas.1.html
[07:37] <SanusCompleo> I -HOPE- I got HP_Tools.  Otherwise... tis Windows boot, or Recovery.
[07:37] <bobslaede> And have all the graphical stuff uninstalled and such...
[07:37] <smw> but the second you delete one, linux can make a "logical partition" so you can have as many as you want
[07:37] <blackshirt> bobslaede: you can do it easily
[07:37] <SanusCompleo> So at least it's possible to get it back, or install Grub to boot Windows, no?
[07:37] <bobslaede> blackshirt: awesome!
[07:37] <Stanley00> bobslaede: you can, but fresh install ubuntu-server is prefer
[07:37] <mysteriousdarren> bobslaede: just install the dependancies
[07:37] <smw> SanusCompleo, I deleted windows boot and that killed windows
[07:37] <truesky> sorry to bother again guys. can someone tell me how to enable bash-completion for apt-get. I tried editing bashrc already and it is not working
[07:37] <teddie> boslaede, install linux-image-server
[07:38] <smw> SanusCompleo, I was too lazy to reinstall windows so I haven't had it since
[07:38] <SanusCompleo> It killed windows, or you just couldn't boot into windows?
[07:38] <bobslaede> thanks guys, will see if i can get a fresh install tho
[07:38] <SanusCompleo> Yeah.
[07:38] <smw> SanusCompleo, is there a difference?
[07:38] <SanusCompleo> If anything like that happens, I'll just copy everything over.
[07:38] <SanusCompleo> Yes.  I booted Windows through Grub for a good two years on my old PC
[07:38] <smw> SanusCompleo, HP_TOOLS in theory won't do anything
[07:38] <blackshirt> bobslaede: just install all stuf from deskstop part, install kernel server version
[07:38] <SanusCompleo> No, HP_Tools is just some weird B.S.
[07:38] <nbros652> blackshirt, thanks, but does this actually allow imposing a limit of the size of individual files?
[07:38] <bobslaede> blackshirt: alrigth
[07:39] <smw> SanusCompleo, truthfully, I don't care about windows. So it doesn't matter for me :-P
[07:39] <blackshirt> bobslaede: i mean just removing all desktop part, sorry
[07:39] <SanusCompleo> Once I split my HD into two partitions.  Labelled one "Storage".  Felt preeetty derpy.
[07:39] <SanusCompleo> *nods to smw*
[07:39] <SanusCompleo> I use Windows for what few games my dual-core 1.6 GHz processor can do.
[07:40] <SanusCompleo> Would love to put this HD into a more powerful laptop.
[07:40] <Stanley00> truesky: add "    . /etc/bash_completion" in that file
[07:40] <darshan_> When I am taking reference of any record and importing that record ,I am receiving error mention in 1error.log file, After that when I am placing hold for my patron I am receiving error mention in 2error.log file, Then at time of capturing hold  ,I am receiving error mention in 3error.log file. Atlast ,I want to set action trigger and for that I have set hook for hold.available and hold.capture but after doing set up also ,mail is no
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> truesky: is the bottom if statement in bashrc uncommented?
[07:40] <SanusCompleo> Woah.
[07:40] <darshan_> the links are-- 1error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272575-iTt6ZCIw-1error.log 2error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272576-q4Ru51P6-2error.log 3error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272577-OxGOv9ye-3error.log\
[07:40] <SanusCompleo> smw, it's not allowing me to change the size of C now.
[07:40] <geoffmcc> SanusCompleo: im a little behind, did u delete your windows mbr?
[07:41] <darshan_> ne1 plz try to solve it
[07:41] <truesky> ActionParsnip: I think so. let me check again
[07:41] <smw> SanusCompleo, ah, I don't play games :-P. I just last week setup Windows XP in a VM because my KVM needed Active X
[07:41] <Brycen> Anyone know about running the liveCD on the new macbook pro?
[07:41] <SanusCompleo> I haven't.  Now it's doing strange things, that I don't understand.  :C
[07:41] <smw> SanusCompleo, I normally shrink the size of C: in windows first
[07:41] <smw> SanusCompleo, you can also use gparted
[07:41] <SanusCompleo> I probably should have.
[07:42] <SanusCompleo> *nods* I know.
[07:42] <truesky> ActionParsnip: yes it is
[07:42] <SanusCompleo> I've got a bad history with Gparted
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> SanusCompleo: urbanterror plays fine here on single core 1.6ghz with nvidia 6150LE 512mb :-)
[07:42] <geoffmcc> Sanus: i also always part in windows first
[07:42] <geoffmcc> i dualboot hp laptop + windows no prob
[07:42] <SanusCompleo> See. I can never manage to get windows partitioners to do anything but screw up my disk!
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> truesky: if you run:  source ~/.bashrc   is it ok?
[07:43] <SanusCompleo> Also, getting rid of Unity... What's the -best- way to do it?  Just go to Gnome 3?
[07:43] <truesky> ActionParsnip: that just made it work
[07:43] <smw> SanusCompleo, my opinion is xfce. It has come far. It is very close to gnome 2
[07:43] <SanusCompleo> Close?
[07:43] <truesky> ActionParsnip: is that a permanent fix?
[07:43] <SanusCompleo> That sounds...  lacking.
[07:44] <SanusCompleo> I really liked Gnome 2.x
[07:44] <smw> SanusCompleo, it isn't lacking
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> SanusCompleo: if you have unity you have and are already running gnome3 (assuming oneiric)
[07:44] <smw> SanusCompleo, I suggest experimentation
[07:44] <smw> SanusCompleo, I tried lubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, gnome-shell, and xubuntu
[07:44] <smw> SanusCompleo, xfce won.
[07:44] <SanusCompleo> (It is oneiric, but it says that you can log a session under Gnome... which is apparently different from Unity?  I dislike this launcher business.)
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> truesky: it just needed running to apply changes. Do new terminals run ok?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> SanusCompleo: unity isn't a desktop, its just a shell
[07:45] <truesky> ActionParsnip: it seems so far
[07:45] <rm-rf1> SanusCompleo: gnome is unusable in ubuntu 11.10. I migrated to awesome WM
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> !away > paxtoncamaroafk
[07:45] <SanusCompleo> Unusable?  Really?
[07:46] <SanusCompleo> Also, what's Awesome WM?
[07:46] <truesky> ActionParsnip: thanks again. this is definetly goingto be faster now :)
[07:46] <rm-rf1> SanusCompleo:  http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[07:46] <smw> SanusCompleo, obviously it is an Awesome Window Manager
[07:46] <rm-rf1> yes))
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> SanusCompleo: xfce looks and smells like gnome2. You can get it by installing xfce4
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> I seeeee
[07:47] <xruud> how long should installing xubuntu-desktop take given ubuntu minimal and about 835 packages that need installing (1,2Gb)
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> I'll get all sorts of different things until I get what I want.
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> I always liked KED
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> KDE*
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> It has a really good Mud manager too.  :P
[07:47] <darshan_> ne1 can ans me plz
[07:47] <SanusCompleo> What's your question, darshan?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> xruud: how fast is your web connection? Are you installing to an SSD? How fast is your cpu?
[07:48] <darshan_> When I am taking reference of any record and importing that record ,I am receiving error mention in 1error.log file, After that when I am placing hold for my patron I am receiving error mention in 2error.log file, Then at time of capturing hold  ,I am receiving error mention in 3error.log file. Atlast ,I want to set action trigger and for that I have set hook for hold.available and hold.capture but after doing set up also ,mail is no
[07:48] <darshan_> the links are-- 1error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272575-iTt6ZCIw-1error.log 2error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272576-q4Ru51P6-2error.log 3error file-http://www.woofiles.com/dl-272577-OxGOv9ye-3error.log
[07:48] <FloodBot1> darshan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <SanusCompleo> I have -no- idea what that means, darshan.  :I
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> xruud: minimal is the daddy :-)
[07:49] <darshan_> ok
[07:49] <SanusCompleo> I've got two "free space" partitions now.  D:
[07:51] <teddie> you onlu get 1 free spech petition
[07:51] <SanusCompleo> I know
[07:51] <SanusCompleo> How do I move one to the other?
[07:52] <blackshirt> move what ?
[07:52] <smw> SanusCompleo, gparted?
[07:52] <SanusCompleo> I'm thinking that
[07:52] <smw> SanusCompleo, I think I used a windows program.
[07:52] <smw> SanusCompleo, for some reason I am the only one who understands you :-P
[07:53] <SanusCompleo> :)
[07:53] <SanusCompleo> I think... I've got it?
[07:53] <SanusCompleo> Nope!
[07:53] <xruud> ActionParsnip: It sure is nice and minimal. But I'm not quite ready yet
[07:54] <tata> how to change "selected items" in lubuntu 10.4
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> xruud: as long as LAN works then install the desktop with apt-get. Its groovy
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Tata: in what context?
[07:55] <SanusCompleo> Reverting!  :D
[07:56] <SanusCompleo> Reeeverting!
[07:56] <tata> cnage color, blue in brown
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Tata: so the selection box colour when you select files in mass?
[07:57] <me-1> hi....suddenly software center won't install apps .....http://paste.debian.net/146464/
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Me-1: if you run: sudo apt-get update     is it error free?
[07:59] <SanusCompleo> It's so rarely error free
[07:59] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  yes . I can install apps by synpetic and apt-get but not software center
[07:59] <xruud> ActionParsnip: I'm doing that, but it is a nearly endless list of packages (835). I can't figure out the order, so for now I suppose I must be patient
[07:59] <tata> files in mass?
[07:59] <sausagesquatch> dammit the only way to make a iso file is to burn it right
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> SanusCompleo: not had any issues or errors in precise here
[08:00] <hilarie> actionparsnip same error I was about to ask about, bad update? or lack of update hehe
[08:00] <nuno_> Hello good morning/afternoon/evening/night to all
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Me-1: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall software-center
[08:01] <SanusCompleo> What happens if I delete my recovery partition?
[08:02] <sausagesquatch> is burning a cd the only way to create an iso file
[08:02] <Stanley00> sausagesquatch: if so, use an emulator will good
[08:02] <nuno_> SanusCompleo: You cannot recover Ubuntu
[08:02] <hilarie> sanuscompleo then your transition to ubuntu will be complete, and all remnents of windows will be gone
[08:02] <sausagesquatch> what
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> sausagesquatch: the iso must exist to be burned.
[08:02] <Stanley00> sausagesquatch: or simply extract it use 7zip tool ;)
[08:02] <nuno_> SanusCompleo: You'll erase your backup of the OS
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> sausagesquatch: no DON'T extract it
[08:03] <sausagesquatch> ok let me tell you what im trying to do
[08:03] <Stanley00> ActionParsnip: why not? I dont get it.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> sausagesquatch: are you wanting to use wubi?
[08:03] <SanusCompleo> I can be a theurge.
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[08:04] <sausagesquatch> i downloaded ubuntu and want to get it to boot up without making a cd or useing a usb stick
[08:04] <tata> appearance settings doesnt have colour change
[08:04] <SanusCompleo> Wubi will work
[08:04] <nuno_> yellabs-r2 hello there mate :)
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Stanley: there is data appart from the files which extracting ignores and makes stuff not work
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> is it possible to let totem play an video in slow motion, is there a way to control the speed
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> ?
[08:04] <SanusCompleo> Someone get sausagesquatch a link to wubi
[08:05] <sausagesquatch> i used wubi to download
[08:05] <yellabs-r2> kat is cool :)
[08:05] <Stanley00> ActionParsnip: well, I didnt know that, thanks for the infos.
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> sausagesquatch: then install magicdisk or daemontools and you can use wubi from there. Be sure to MD5test the ISO so you know its good
[08:05] <nuno_> SanusCompleo: I tried to use Wubi but Ubuntu kept freezing and crashing down, but as far i tried it i surrendered myself to it and installed it for good
[08:06] <hilarie> I just uninstalled software center for the purposes of reinstalling it, pastebin to follow, it was funny
[08:06] <sausagesquatch> ok
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Stanley00: np. All you have to do is open the file with your burner (after Mad5 testing) and burn as slow as possible. Easy
[08:07] <hilarie> oh, ok, it was the list of programs it has to install, it was like, why are you doing something with oragano while removing software center...
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: you don't
[08:07] <SanusCompleo> The tension is killing me
[08:07] <nuno_> sausagesquatch: here you go, link to download Wubi : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[08:07] <SanusCompleo> I copied my recovery partition right next to the C Drive
[08:07] <SanusCompleo> Freed up 100 gigs
[08:07] <SanusCompleo> And going to keep it 4 nice neat partitions with no unusable space.
[08:08] <SanusCompleo> Help me god.
[08:08] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  thank you
[08:08] <sausagesquatch> thanks
[08:08] <Stanley00> ActionParsnip: I havent use CD or DVD for a long time, just use the USB ;)
[08:08] <hilarie> ActionParsnip adding and removing software center still isn't letting it open
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: just mark it for reinstallation and it will be reinstalled. No removal necessary :-)
[08:09] <hilarie> for some reason it was getting grumpy with me with the --reinstall flag on apt-get
[08:09] <yellabs-r2> ok done it with mplayer ( speed control your movie )
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Stanley00: setup a pxe server and you won't even need that :-)
[08:09] <yellabs-r2> cant do it with totem ( yet )
[08:10] <hilarie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/744978/
[08:10] <sausagesquatch> is md5 test free how do i do that
[08:10] <stepnjump> Have any of you yet found a way to get rid of unity in Oneiric Ocelot ?
[08:11] <somsip> !nounity | stepnjump
[08:11] <Stanley00> stepnjump: use lubuntu or kubuntu or something... :))
[08:12] <hilarie> @stepnjump there is no 10.10 UI unless you go back to 11.04, and go into classic mode
[08:14] <stepnjump> hilarie yes thats what I was afraid. Fortunately I kept my 11.04... I wonder what I will do in 6 months when they phase it out
[08:15] <hilarie> stepnjump its 18m
[08:15] <hilarie> So you have closer  a year
[08:16] <stepnjump> 18m hilarie?
[08:17] <stepnjump> hilarie try that: apt-get remove package and apt-get clean
[08:17] <hilarie> remove then clean?
[08:17] <hilarie> and yes, the life of each release is 18 months, not a year
[08:17] <stepnjump> That's what I found on the web. source: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-completely-uninstall-a-package-237772/
[08:18] <stepnjump> oh that's good news... well sorts of! lol hilarie
[08:18] <hilarie> !lol
[08:18] <hilarie> :P
[08:18] <topriddy> Is there any show desktop button on linux?
[08:18] <psypher246> hello all, anyone gotten kvm virtual machine manager working on ubuntu oneiric 64bit? I keep getting this error (and nothing in google is helping): Error polling connection 'qemu:///system': internal error Cannot find suitable emulator for x86_64
[08:19] <Stanley00> topriddy: Ctrl + Alt + D ?
[08:19] <smw> psypher246, what cmd are you running?
[08:20] <psypher246> smw: it's from the icon added to the oauncher by software center but i thinik it's gksudo virt-manager
[08:20] <psypher246> smw: i get the same error when runnning from cli
[08:20] <psypher246> smw: sudo or without
[08:20] <SanusCompleo> Alright... now let's try installing
[08:21] <topriddy> am i the only that doesnt like the new Ubuntu gui and would want my gnome back?
[08:21] <SanusCompleo> No
[08:21] <SanusCompleo> Unity generally sucks
[08:21] <smw> psypher246, "I get the same error when running from the cli". So you are running a cmd?
[08:21] <psypher246> yes virt-manager
[08:21] <stepnjump> hilarie yes I tried apt-get remove works fine
[08:21] <smw> psypher246, what is the exact cmd you are running?
[08:21] <psypher246> just that
[08:22] <gaelfx> how can I create a vpn connection? I'm using openvpn, and I have the .ovpn file, but it won't let me save the connection? I have a feeling it might be an auth issue
[08:22] <stepnjump> does anyone know what apt-get clean does?
[08:22] <smw> psypher246, truthfully, you are not giving me much to work with. Don't think I can help :-\. Any reason you are not using virtualbox?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> smw:  He means that when launching the GUI app (virt-manager) from a terminal, the error is spit out on the parent terminal.
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> stepnjump: It deletes the .deb packages you've downloaded that are stored in /var/cache/apt/
[08:22] <psypher246> smw: sorrty i though I am answering your exact question, i open trerminla and type virt-manare and press eneter en that error co9mes up when the app laucnhes
[08:23] <topriddy> am i the only that doesnt like the new Ubuntu gui and would want my gnome back? How can i install gnome?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> !nounity | topriddy
[08:23] <stepnjump> OIC tnx tonyyarusso
[08:23] <Tidals> GNOME is meh use XFCE like a real linux user
[08:24] <psypher246> smw: yes what tonyyarusso said
[08:24] <smw> topriddy, not only ubuntu changed. Gnome did too
[08:24] <smw> topriddy, you are not going to find anything like what you had with gnome 2 unless you move to xfce
[08:24] <topriddy> smw: oh, now i get.
[08:24] <psypher246> smw: just noticed qemu-kvm wasn't installed with virt-manager, trying quick
[08:25] <Tidals> GNOME3 is great i dont get people that hate on it.
[08:25] <Tidals> Unity sucks balls though
[08:25] <topriddy> smw: i like the easy way i can get back to desktop as in windows and mac os x.
[08:25] <psypher246> Tidals: I love unity, but thats just my opinion
[08:25] <Tidals> your opinion sucks then
[08:25] <psypher246> wow
[08:25] <Vojceto> Vojceto
[08:25] <Stanley00> I prefer unity to gnome3 too topriddy
[08:25] <soviet-> im trying to share wireless internet to a audio/video receiver with internet capabilities via crossover cable, but am having issues with anything internet related on it except the recievers site comes up if i visit the ip i assigned
[08:25] <topriddy> i dont seem to understand the Shell part? gnome-shell vs unity-shell. is this the terminal you talk about?
[08:25] <Vojceto> Heyy
[08:26] <psypher246> Tidals: no need to be an as
[08:26] <smw> topriddy, it is the panels
[08:26] <Tidals> an as
[08:26] <psypher246> an ass
[08:26] <Tidals> i'll try not to be an as
[08:26] <ucenik33> ee
[08:27] <ucenik33> ee
[08:27] <smw> topriddy, it is "shell" because they are not just panels...
[08:27] <Vojceto> vojooo
[08:27] <ucenik33> tuka le si
[08:27] <ucenik33> ee
[08:27] <ucenik33> ebete se
[08:27] <ucenik33> be
[08:27] <Vojceto> ok
[08:27] <FloodBot1> ucenik33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <ucenik04> ooooooooo                                                  ooo
[08:27] <ucenik33> koj e tam
[08:27] <Vojceto> ega ve e*a
[08:27] <ucenik33> a
[08:27] <ucenik04> otkriii razliiikiteee
[08:27] <soviet-> anyone?
[08:27] <ucenik04> skriti obekti
[08:27] <Vojceto> xaxaxax
[08:27] <ucenik04> martine
[08:27] <Stanley00> ucenik04, Vojceto stop that, PLEASE
[08:27] <ucenik04> fuck you
[08:27] <Vojceto> xaxaxa
[08:27] <ucenik33> e fuck you
[08:28] <topriddy> smw: any other way i can reach the desktop by minimizing all windows other than Ctrl  + Alt + D.
[08:28] <smw> topriddy, I don't know unity
[08:28] <Stanley00> topriddy: use some compiz trigger,
[08:28] <nuno_> ucenick33: i think for that you need togo to redtube.... get out of the closet man...
[08:28] <Stanley00> topriddy: as I did, when I move my mouse to top right corner, I see the desktop =))
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> nuno_: They're gone.  Keep it clean.
[08:29] <topriddy> Stanley00: thats the way i see do it on OS X too. How do i make a compose trigger?
[08:29] <Tidals> loll comparing ubuntu with OS X
[08:29] <Stanley00> topriddy: just a min, I looking for it :d
[08:30] <nuno_> tonyyarusso: thanks i was just trying to keep the guy in his place ;)
[08:30] <topriddy> Stanley00: also would like an easy way to pop up and tile all opend windows.
[08:30] <nimesh> how to determine my systems default editor in Ubuntu 11.10
[08:31] <sausagesquatch> fuck you cock suckers i dont want to pay you stupid assholes fuck off and let me do my own thing on here dammit
[08:31] <rm-rf1> ll /etc/alternatives/editor
[08:31] <sausagesquatch> fuck
[08:31] <Stanley00> topriddy: haha, now I cant find it in compiz config :-ss
[08:31] <sausagesquatch> i wish you would gety shot in the face
[08:31] <Tidals> sausagesquatch› that is a lot of aggression you got there. ever thought about playing lacrosse?
[08:32] <nuno_> Tidals: i think boxinx would be good on this guy roflmao
[08:32] <Stanley00> topriddy: aha, I use ubuntu-tweak to set that option :D
[08:32] <nuno_> Tidals: i think boxing would be good on this guy roflmao
[08:32] <Tidals> nah
[08:32] <Tidals> boxing is not a real sport
[08:32] <Tidals> lacrosse on the other hand!
[08:33] <gaelfx> I can't save my vpn connection, and I suspect that it's an auth issue, is there a way to open network manager using sudo?
[08:34] <truesky> goodnite everyone. thanks again for all the help. Got my server configured :D
[08:34] <nuno_> Tidals: ahahah some punches on this guy and believe me his stress would all come out ahah
[08:34] <nuno_> truesky: Good night mate
[08:34] <Tidals> you never played or saw lacrosse have you
[08:35] <conntrack> It is morning here. A full day a head
[08:35] <nuno_> Tidals: maybe by a different name? :O
[08:35] <nbros652> anyone here know if there's a way to impose limits on the size of files that can be uploaded via smb protocols?
[08:35] <rm-rf1> gaelfx: try wicd instead of default nm
[08:35] <stepnjump> linux boxing is tidals
[08:35] <OldOneEye> wats a ez to use web server to install?
[08:35] <nuno_> ashahaha
[08:35] <Tidals> nuno_› imagine hockey but with butterfly nets
[08:35] <Tidals> that is lacrosse
[08:36] <gaelfx> rm-rf1: nevermind, it seems to want a CA certificate that I don't have
[08:36] <Tidals> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacrosse
[08:36] <geoffmcc> !offtopic
[08:36] <Tidals> stepnjump› do you want to cuddle?
[08:36] <stepnjump> my gf told me no :)
[08:36] <topriddy> Stanley00: so default ubuntu now stopped giving me those options. (N)
[08:36] <Tidals> tell your gf that she is mean stepnjump
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> OldOneEye: What's wrong with Apache?
[08:37] <Tidals> OldOneEye› cherokee is ez
[08:37] <stepnjump> ok
[08:37] <nuno_> Tidals: oh i see, that's Canadian sport??
[08:37] <glitchd_> anybody use teamspeak by chance?
[08:37]  * conntrack growns
[08:37] <Stanley00> topriddy: I dont know either, maybe
[08:37] <Tidals> nuno_› it says native american sports on the wikipedia page i linked...
[08:38] <glitchd_> anybody use teamspeak by chance?
[08:38] <nuno_> Tidals: here in Portugal we don't have that sport, only regular hockey, in skates...sorry i missed your link
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> Could you take the sports talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[08:38] <reisio> glitchd_: ?
[08:38] <Tidals> in skates
[08:38] <Tidals> not even field hockey?
[08:38] <conntrack> I guess I need more channels open
[08:38] <nuno_> tonyyarusso: sorry :S
[08:38] <glitchd_> reisio, im just trying to see if i set my server up correctly, and i cant seem to get any help in any other room.
[08:39] <Stanley00> !offtopic | Tidals
[08:39] <glitchd_> reisio, all i would need is someone to see if they could login to it. nothing more, nothing less.
[08:39] <Tidals> !offtopic | Stanley00
[08:39] <Tidals> see how you like being highlighted for no reason
[08:40] <Stanley00> Tidals: no reason? I dont think so...
[08:40] <hilarie> !poo-poo head | Tidals
[08:40] <Tidals> Stanley00› ok
[08:40] <Jordan_U> Tidals: You weren't highlighted for no reason, you were hightlighted because you're continuing to make offtopic remarks in a support-only channel.
[08:40] <Tidals> jordan› thanks for the off-topic remarks
[08:41] <nuno_> sorry guys i didn't know there was an off-topic channel, sorry for my noobness :S
[08:41] <Tidals> Jordan_U even
[08:41] <OldOneEye> wats a ez to use web server to install?
[08:42] <hilarie> oldoneeye apache2
[08:42] <Tidals> OldOneEye› cherokee
[08:42] <glitchd_> reisio, so how bout it then?
[08:42] <MrS1lentcz> good morning :)
[08:42] <nbros652> anyone here know if there's a way to impose limits on the size of files that can be uploaded via smb protocols?
[08:42] <reisio> glitchd_: don't have it
[08:42] <glitchd_> reisio, and your not willing to grab it real quick?
[08:43] <Guest43007> 11
[08:43] <reisio> don't have a mic handy, either
[08:43] <glitchd_> reisio, ok then
[08:44] <MrS1lentcz> i have a problem for a few days... on start pc i have blinking black screen, grub menu instead.
[08:44] <stepnjump> ok good night
[08:44] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | MrS1lentcz
[08:44] <MrS1lentcz> i try set grub option "nouveau.blacklist=1" but not sucessfully - i dont know where i have to set it
[08:45] <glitchd_> reisio, i just need to see if anyone can login to the server, dont need u to speak on it.
[08:45] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: ok, i will paste boot_info result, just a minute :)
[08:46] <rm-rf1> good day. Bye
[08:46] <topriddy> *sigh*
[08:46] <topriddy> shouldnt be a way to easily see opened apps?
[08:47] <glitchd_> anybody in here  use teamspeak by chance?
[08:48] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: oh, "=> No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.  => Syslinux MBR (4.04 and higher) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb."
[08:48] <brianpWins> How do you view folder permissions. or who owns a particular folder via the CL?
[08:49] <llutz> brianpWins: ls -ld folder
[08:49] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: can i try install grub by "grub-install --root-directory="/mountedOS/boot" /dev/sda ?
[08:50] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: If you're using the "--root-directory=" option then you need to point to the root directory, if you're using the "--boot-directory=" option then you need to point to the boot directory.
[08:50] <brianpWins> thanks llutz !
[08:50] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: here is full log http://pastebin.com/EnRwp35N
[08:50] <geoffmcc> MrS1lentcz: if you have access to ubuntu cd you can fix grub using Boot-Repair
[08:51] <MrS1lentcz> geoffmcc: i am on live kubuntu cd now
[08:51] <glitchd_> anybody in here  use teamspeak by chance?
[08:52] <OldOneEye> wats a ez to use web server to install?
[08:52] <somsip> OldOneEye: Apache2
[08:52] <hilarie> OldOneEye sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:53] <OldOneEye> kk
[08:53] <OldOneEye> thanx
[08:54] <OldOneEye> where is html files goto
[08:54] <somsip> OldOneEye: /var/www
[08:54] <OldOneEye> k
[08:54] <OldOneEye> wats var mean
[08:54] <somsip> OldOneEye: it;s a directory
[08:55] <llutz> !fhs|OldOneEye:
[08:55] <OldOneEye> i know but does it stand for something
[08:55] <somsip> OldOneEye: probably
[08:55] <geoffmcc> MrS1lentcz: sorry walked away for a min.. help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair if you still need it
[08:55] <OldOneEye> kk
[08:55] <glitchd_> anybody in here have teamspeak by chance?
[08:56] <somsip> glitchd_: IRC - We also have a dedicated #TeamSpeak community IRC channel on uk.
[08:56] <llutz> glitchd_: just ask your real question and wait if someones answers.
[08:56] <somsip> glitchd_: from their website. Not difficult
[08:57] <glitchd_> llutz, im just trying to see if i set my server up right, and if people can log onto it or not.
[08:57] <glitchd_> llutz, do u have teamspeak?
[08:58] <llutz> glitchd_: no
[08:58] <glitchd_> llutz, right then.
[08:58] <geoffmcc> glitchd_: kinda off topic anyways
[08:58] <glitchd_> geoffmcc, well i couldnt fine a teamspeak room to be honest.
[08:59] <somsip> glitchd_: We also have a dedicated #TeamSpeak community IRC channel on uk.quakenet.org
[08:59] <somsip> glitchd_: from their website
[08:59] <glitchd_> geoffmcc, and im not asking any trouble shooting info
[08:59] <glitchd_> somsip, so how would i join uk.quakenet.org?
[08:59] <somsip> glitchd_: depends what irc client you are using
[09:00] <glitchd_> somsip, is xchat an irc client?
[09:00] <FlyOnTheWall> yes
[09:00] <glitchd_> somsip, then i would be using xchat
[09:00] <somsip> glitchd_: then you should be looking at the xchat help file
[09:00] <FlyOnTheWall> glitchd_,  http://xchat.org/docs/start/
[09:03] <Caleb> ikonia are you around?
[09:03] <Caleb> pm me if so afk for a bit
[09:03] <tr3nton> !davfs2
[09:03] <MrS1lentcz> geoffmcc: Jordan_U "root@ubuntu:~# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklist
[09:03] <tr3nton> !webdav
[09:04] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: For GPT labels you need to create a BIOS boot partition. If you use automatic partitioning in the Ubuntu installer one is created automatically. What guide were you following?
[09:05] <Guest99116> is there a command i can use to delete all subfolder smaller than 50MB?
[09:07] <geoffmcc> MrS1lentcz: did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair?
[09:07] <Jordan_U> geoffmcc: MrS1lentcz: Boot repair won't create a BIOS boot partition, which is required for a reliable grub install with a GPT label.
[09:10] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i am used automatically installation of kubuntu on entire disk...
[09:10] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: before i created new partition msdos table (there where some problems with efi) and i dont understad, what it doesnt work still...
[09:10] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: how can i create a BIOS boot partition, please?
[09:10] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: BIOS boot partition... is it MBR?
[09:10] <proxx> Hello ,    I nmap myself regularely and this time a port popped up that wasnt there before, "port 902 iss-realsecure" now how do i trail this back to a service ???
[09:11] <reisio> Guest99116: man find, /size
[09:12] <Guest99116> reisio it thinks all folders are size 0
[09:13] <joshmc> I have a problem with ecryptfs and fcron, attempting to edit the f-crontab results in the encrypted home unmounting. Only other occurance I've found so far on the internet is http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fid%3D447168&ei=SRXKTt2pCeKXiAKTn7X3Dw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDwQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfcrontab%2Becryptfs-mount-private%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%
[09:14] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Use GParted to create a new 1 MiB partition then select this new partition and go to Partition > Manage Flags. Check the "bios_grub" flag. Make sure you select the new partition when you do this, as whatever partition has this flag will be overwritten by grub-install.
[09:14] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: ok
[09:15] <proxx> hello, I scanned myself and found an open port, now how do i trail this back to the service ?
[09:15] <llutz> proxx: sudo lsof -i :portnumber
[09:15] <Stanley00> proxx: lsof | grep "port"
[09:16] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: so, does it need on a disk begin or not?
[09:16] <proxx> Well thank you :)
[09:16] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: It can be anywhere.
[09:16] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: ok
[09:17] <proxx> lol oke, and what if it doesnt show
[09:17] <joshmc> proxx, is the port listed in /etc/protocols ? you could grep that too
[09:17] <llutz> proxx: sudo netstat -tulpen |grep portnumber
[09:17] <tab1293> how can i see where package files are installed?
[09:17] <tab1293> do you use apt-cache
[09:17] <llutz> joshmc: /etc/services you mean
[09:18] <szal> tab1293: why would that be of interest to you?
[09:18] <llutz> tab1293: dpkg -L packagename
[09:18] <proxx> joshmc nope isnt listed there (services nor protocols)
[09:18] <joshmc> llutz, indeed
[09:18] <tab1293> because i installed a programming library and i need to know its location
[09:18] <teach> hi
[09:18] <nimesh> is there any way to achieve Mac's Expose like functionality in Ubuntu 11.10
[09:18] <nimesh> ?
[09:19] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: how have i choose a filesystem?
[09:19] <teach> since my upgrade to oneiric i'm still getting this bug when trying to update kernel image
[09:19] <proxx> llutz: thank you i found it, its vmware :)
[09:19] <teach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blcr/+bug/804943
[09:19] <izzy_> hey, can anyone give me a link to tutorials on tweaking fluxbox on buntu?
[09:19] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: "unformatted".
[09:20] <teach> does the blcr-dkms package get fixed in upstream?
[09:20] <joshmc> nimesh, first blush on google says brightside, I think I tried that awhile ago and I dont remember if it worked well.
[09:20] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i can manage flags if it isnt formatted
[09:20] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Yes. This "flag" is stored in the partition table.
[09:21] <teach> i'm currently stuck with a 2.6.38 kernel since the blcr can't be build with 3.0 kernels
[09:21] <nimesh> joshmc: okies. thanks for the info. i think i should leave it for now
[09:21] <izzy_> anyone know a good place to study hacking?
[09:21] <vibhav> !ot | izzy_
[09:21] <nimesh> izzy_: what kinda hacks ?
[09:21] <izzy_> hacks for fluxbox =)
[09:22] <nimesh> don't have no idea
[09:22] <nimesh> yeah heard of it
[09:23] <joshmc> anyone have a guess why ( fcrontab + ecryptfs'd home = umount'd home ) ?
[09:23] <geoffmcc>  /clear
[09:23] <izzy_> was juz asking how to tweak fluxbox in buntu !Mr. ubotu!
[09:23] <joshmc> izzy_, ubotu is just a bot
[09:24] <izzy_> oh, how embarrasing
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: so i resized swap partition and there are my partitions now: http://imageshack.us/f/818/snapshot1tc.png/
[09:24] <izzy_> im new to this thing. peace
[09:24] <proxx> izzy_ > am i an idiot or is this well documented even on the fluxbox website itself ?
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: is it ok? (other partitions maked auto installed)
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> *insteller
[09:24] <MrS1lentcz> *installer :))
[09:24] <proxx> haha
[09:25] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Yes, that looks fine.
[09:25] <joshmc> izzy_, hacking is a very general term, and as you were 'told' it might not be appropriate for this channel, however see if fluxbox has a dedicated channel where they can better help you.
[09:26] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: so i go to try grub-install, ok ?
[09:26] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Yes.
[09:27] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: success... "root@ubuntu:~# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda Installation finished. No error reported. "
[09:27] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Great. Once you're booted into your Ubuntu installation run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc".
[09:27] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i try run boot_inifo script again...
[09:28] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: No need.
[09:29] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: ubuntu installation? do you mean "to mounted linux os partition" ?
[09:29] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Installing grub-pc will ensure that on upgrades grub-pc's grub-install gets run (updating the BIOS based bootloader, grub-pc rather than the efi based grub-efi which you probably have in your installed Ubuntu system currently).
[09:30] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: I mean that you should reboot into your installed system rather than the LiveCD/USB that you're currently booted from.
[09:31] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: do you mean installed system will be run?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: It should, yes.
[09:31] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: after so many days of repairing? :)
[09:32] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i have hidden a bootle of irish whiskey for this moment... do you mean, would i go to for? :)))
[09:32] <MrS1lentcz> *a hidden bottle
[09:35] <proxx> ive got a startup scrite running (init.d) if I edit this , would the "new" version run at next startup ?
[09:36] <proxx> *script*
[09:37] <OerHeks> proxx sound like it would, yes.
[09:37] <proxx> oke lets hope so :)
[09:37] <searching> I need a program to edit photo not gimp
[09:38] <Stanley00> searching: why not gimp?
[09:38] <vibhav> searching: Kry Krita
[09:38] <vibhav> Cry*
[09:38] <vibhav> Try*
[09:39] <proxx> lol
[09:39] <searching> something small
[09:39] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: my bottle is closed still - my screen are still blinking after notebook start...
[09:39] <vibhav> searching: mtPaint graphic editor
[09:39] <searching> not working
[09:39] <searching> shutter same
[09:40] <searching> :))
[09:40] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Did you make sure that you were booting from sda and not sdb?
[09:40] <deej1976> searching: pinta
[09:40] <vibhav> searching: The only option I have left is probably GNU Paint
[09:40] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: yeah
[09:40] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: If possible, remove sdb when booting.
[09:40] <gdane> hello
[09:40] <searching> ok thanks
[09:41] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: If that doesn't help then please pastebin the new boot info script output, but I need to leave now.
[09:41] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i did
[09:41] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i am booting only from hdd, usb-flash disc with kubuntu is disconnected
[09:42] <brianpWins> I added myself to the sudoers list but it still asks me for a password every time I try and do something. Do I need to re-source something?
[09:42] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/xaEjSjtN
[09:42] <proxx> brianpWins thats normal
[09:43] <proxx> brianpWins; when you run something, with elevated privs, you need authentication, there are other ways though
[09:45] <gdane> brianpWins u can desable it, but its not secure way to use linux
[09:45] <gdane> in any way u can work under root
[09:45] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: That looks fine. I don't know what's wrong. Try asking in #grub (and re-ask every few hours, being patient. It's a low traffic channel but with support directly from grub developers it can be invaluable help).
[09:45] <proxx> or sudo for a whole session
[09:45] <gdane> but i am not sure if everything will work well under root account
[09:45] <proxx> brianpWins: what are you trying to do ?
[09:46] <brianpWins> hmmm. Okay I guess I'd expect that. but for whatever reason I don't actually seem to have the privileges. Like even if i authenticate i get write permission errors
[09:46] <danag_> Hi. I have installed video drivers from ATI, fglrx 8.911. I have problem with suspend. Everything is working alright except brightness is set to lowest value after waking up computer from suspend and I can't level it up. Anyone know how to fix this, please?
[09:46] <danag_> it causes randomly, not every suspend causes that
[09:47] <deej1976> brianpWins: Are you trying to write files under /var/www, by chance?
[09:47] <brianpWins> proxx: I have a user i'm using to ssh and run ruby/bundler commands. That user doesn't seem to have write access to ruby related things despite being a sudoer. So I can't run command like bundle install. But these things work fine as root
[09:47] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: there's more people than in our czech ubuntu channel :)) thanks :)
[09:47] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: You're welcome :)
[09:47] <proxx> brianpWins: did you add the user to the required groups ?
[09:48] <brianpWins> proxx: i don't think. I just added my_user ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:48] <llutz> brianpWins: sudo adduser username admin                 don't edit sudoers directly
[09:49] <deej1976> llutz: addgroup ?
[09:49] <brianpWins> llutz: so if the user already exists will that cmd still work
[09:50] <brianpWins> add group sounds nicer =)
[09:50] <geirha> brianpWins: See adduser --help
[09:50] <llutz> brianpWins: sure
[09:50] <llutz> deej1976: adduser addgroup do both
[09:50] <llutz> ls -l $(which addgroup)
[09:50] <llutz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jun 13 21:36 /usr/sbin/addgroup -> adduser
[09:51] <llutz> deej1976: ^^
[09:51] <brianpWins> thanks everyone. I'm going to give that a go right now
[09:51] <deej1976> llutz: Ah ha, cool, learn something new everyday
[09:51] <stimpie> my 'time applet' shows a few calendar entries, where do these come from? and how do I change the calendar used?
[09:52] <joshmc> stimpie, do you use evolution, or have it set up to use a calendar? I think that, by default, the calendar entries there gets added to the applet.
[09:52] <stimpie> I have used evolution but removed it.
[09:53] <joshmc> stimpie, did you remove evolution related packages, such as evolution-common or evolution-data if they exist?
[09:53] <joshmc> stimpie, also, did you apt-get remove or purge
[09:54] <stimpie> not sure probably just a remove
[09:54] <brianpWins> hmmmm. I did addgroup user admin and it said it worked. but when I login as that user gem uninstall still give me write permission errors
[09:55] <brianpWins> You don't have write permissions into the /usr/local/rbenv/versions/1.9.2-p290/bin directory.
[09:55] <llutz> brianpWins: that just adds the user to the sudo-user group. he still needs sudo to work with elevated privs
[09:55] <joshmc> stimpie, as an example, I have evolution-common installed, dispite not using evolution myself. It might be included in a metapackage, such as ubuntu-desktop, so keep that in mind.
[09:55] <deej1976> brianpWins: Did you prefix your command with sudo?
[09:56] <joshmc> brianpWins, is this an rvm setup?
[09:56] <brianpWins> deej1976: I didn't. but when I do. it tells me sudo: gem: command not found
[09:56] <brianpWins> joshmc: not rvm. rbenv
[09:56] <OldOneEye> does this work
[09:56] <OldOneEye> 	fecal-matters.mooo.com
[09:56] <stimpie> joshmc, evolution-common is indeed still installed. I guess its easier to just keep evolution installed.
[09:57] <joshmc> stimpie, maybe, maybe not, depends on what you need. if it requires too much software to be uninstalled that you'd rather keep, you have your answer.
[09:58] <OldOneEye> does this work	http://fecal-matters.mooo.com
[09:59] <szal> OldOneEye: no advertising please, sure not for obscure websites w/ questionable content
[10:00] <OldOneEye> im testing apache
[10:00] <OldOneEye> i got free dns
[10:00] <OldOneEye> testing
[10:00] <joshmc> brianpWins, I'm not familiar with it. I know that with rvm there was a specific way you had to invoke gem, rvmsudo, if you installed it system-wide (i.e. /usr/local ), and the initial documentation of rbenv rings very similar to rvm (to my ears)
[10:00] <llutz> szal: not here, its offtopic
[10:00] <llutz> OldOneEye: ^^ sry zal
[10:01] <brianpWins> joshmc: yeah rbenv and rvm are solving the same issues so I'll look into that a bit more. Although with root. i can bundle install with success
[10:01] <brianpWins> errrr
[10:01] <brianpWins> not bundle install
[10:01] <brianpWins> gem install
[10:02] <joshmc> brianpWins: gem install with root? and `which gem` turns up a version-specific gem ?
[10:03] <brianpWins> joshmc: which gem gives me /usr/local/rbenv/shims/gem and when logged in with root gem install works fine
[10:06] <joshmc> brianpWins: are there ruby/gem binaries in version/<vers>/bin ?? even symlinks or something (again, going off of rvm-based knowledge)
[10:06] <hilarie> on my seedbox with 3 days uptime, my ratio on ubuntu desktop 11.10 is .02 is it http seeded or something?
[10:06] <brianpWins> joshmc: i believe so. the shim should point towards: /usr/local/rbenv/versions/1.9.2-p290/bin
[10:08] <szal> !wubi
[10:08] <brianpWins> joshmc: could it be because I installed rbenv while logged in as root ? and all the directories for rbenv are assigned to root or something?
[10:09] <brianpWins> More concerning almost is the gem install raises permission errors but sudo gem install raises command not found
[10:09] <joshmc> brianpWins, I had suspected that you had a good reason to install it as root, but if the only reason was because that's how you would normally install software, then probably thats the problem :)
[10:09] <Guest1517> hi anyone know how to reset compiz back to default on ubuntu 11.10
[10:10] <brianpWins> joshmc: ahhhh is there a nicer fix for that other then blowing out the directory and re-installing with a normal user?
[10:10] <joshmc> brianpWins, probably not
[10:10] <brianpWins> joshmc: okay. blow out the dir it is
[10:10] <joshmc> brianpWins, but see if there's an uninstall function first
[10:11] <brianpWins> I'll get to that. thanks for the help! I'll post back in a bit see if it worked.
[10:11] <brianpWins> joshmc: should I also be concerned about everything else i've installed? nginx many libs with aptitude
[10:12] <joshmc> brianpWins, if you installed nginx with support for passenger you'll have to reconfigure it, but nginx is pretty easy to build/rebuild iirc
[10:12] <root__> today i booted into Window and did a CHKDSK and after a reboot i found out that all my ext4 partitions had vanished!!!
[10:12] <root__> HELP!
[10:12] <brianpWins> hmmmm. maybe I'll just bow out the whole vps and start over. Live and learn i guess =)
[10:13] <joshmc> brianpWins, mixing aptitude installed rubies and gem installed rubies, especially in a versioned ruby system is a bad idea
[10:13] <p00r_r00t> today i booted into Windows and did a CHKDSK and after a reboot i found out that all my ext4 partitions had vanished!!!
[10:13] <p00r_r00t> HELP!
[10:13] <brianpWins> joshmc: oh totally. I didn't install ruby via anything but rbenv. just other compiler libs and mysql etc
[10:14] <p00r_r00t> how do i take a FORENSIC BACKUP of my drive?
[10:14] <joshmc> brianpWins, should be smooth(-er) sailings then
[10:14] <vibhav> p00r_r00t: Define 'vanish'
[10:14] <joshmc> (vibhav, "I can't see them in windows!! D: " )
[10:15] <p00r_r00t> joshmc, no! || vibhav it show up as FREE SPACE in gparted
[10:15] <proxx> sorry did anyone reply ?  I trashed my own connection :P
[10:16] <theadmin> p00r_r00t: Try using testdisk to recover your old partition table
[10:16] <p00r_r00t> i tried using 'parted' but no luck
[10:19] <p00r_r00t> theadmin, i'm very new to data recovery and i have quite a lot of important data which i can't afford to loose... || How do i take a forensic backup of my drive without corrupting it more
[10:19] <theadmin> p00r_r00t: I have no idea.
[10:20] <proxx> p00r_r00t: there are a lot of tools dedicated to that kind of use, >> google
[10:20] <proxx> p00r_r00t: even whole distros
[10:20] <sskniranjan> how to create a desktop icon for an application in ubuntu
[10:20] <p00r_r00t> proxx, i need someone to guide me :|
[10:21] <mmv> p00r_r00t: we can tell you how to make a backup copy of the drive, that's easy enough with dd,
[10:21] <p00r_r00t> btw i'm currently on BackTrack5
[10:21] <mmv> p00r_r00t: i'd strongly suggest getting someone involved who has a clue
[10:21] <AfterGlow> does anyone know the correct way to load an additional network driver for the installer by placing it in the initrd? I tried loading it in debian-installer-startup.d/ but as much as the script runs the driver is not loaded
[10:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> p00r_r00t  dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=64k conv=noerror,sync - have 2 hard disks of equal or the 2nd larger
[10:22] <p00r_r00t> RaTTuS|BIG, the second is smaller :(
[10:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> p00r_r00t go out and buy a new one
[10:22] <p00r_r00t> is it possible to take a backup of  only a part of the disk?
[10:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes using dd
[10:22] <mmv> best to backup the entire disk, incase you screw up
[10:23] <mckoan> hi, I need to use Intrepid 8.10, but I'm unable to find a repository, is it still available somwhere?
[10:23] <proxx> lol and dd is the command of dead, be carefull
[10:23] <theadmin> mckoan: No it isn't
[10:23] <p00r_r00t> damn, i can't afford a new disk :X
[10:23] <theadmin> mckoan: It's EOL... Well, you can find it on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com but
[10:23] <p00r_r00t> i've lost only approx 80 GB of data
[10:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> p00r_r00t well - proceed with caution
[10:24] <p00r_r00t> and my HDD is 500GB
[10:24] <sskniranjan> please help me. how to create the desktop link or icon for any app. in ubuntu
[10:24] <proxx> p00r_r00t: i probably missed the explaining part, but you are unable to mount the drive what so ever ?
[10:24] <mckoan> theadmin: thx, I simply need to install some missing packages, do you sugegst to do it from the CD?
[10:25] <mmv> p00r_r00t: if you can't afford a new disk your data isn't worth much at all then ;)
[10:25] <theadmin> mckoan: The proper repo URL for Intrepid would be "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com intrepid main" and such ones
[10:25] <p00r_r00t> proxx, http://paste.debian.net/146476/
[10:25] <mckoan> theadmin: aha! understand now, I'll try that
[10:26] <Sanus> Hi.
[10:26] <p00r_r00t> proxx, i've lost sda8 sda9 and sda10
[10:26] <p00r_r00t> all ext4... sda8:data sda9:Debian sda10:Fedora
[10:28] <Sanus> Holycrap
[10:28] <p00r_r00t> and all this happened just 24 hrs before my exams :(
[10:28] <Sanus> Losing sda's.  D:
[10:28] <Sanus> Scary
[10:28] <KamZou> Hello, i have a DHCP DDNS problem : I would like my clients to have a lease greater than 78h, but my DHCP server try to update my DNS exactly 24h after the client get the lease. Do you know why the DHCP is trying to make a DNS update and how to increase / remove this ?
[10:28] <albech> hi guys.. just received this cctv harddisk and have to review the files on it.. they are dvr-files. any recommendations on a dvr viewer?
[10:29] <Gentoo64> albech: no idea if a standard player like mplayer would play them
[10:29] <Gentoo64> or google linux dvr
[10:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> dvr file are usually propitory -0 see the people they came from
[10:30] <brianpWins> on my local system I use homebrew for managing all my packages. on the server i'm setting up should I stick to apt-get OR aptitude as opposed to using both ?
[10:31] <Gentoo64> brianpWins: you might as well just keep it simple and use apt-get no?
[10:31] <brianpWins> Gentoo64: that's not a bad idea at all
[10:32] <garden92> is there a way to change the ubuntu start page search from google to a different search engine?
[10:32] <garden92> in Firefox
[10:32] <proxx> garden92 >> preferences
[10:32] <sskniranjan> is there any way to have different desktop background for different workspaces
[10:33] <liam_> Can anyone help me with an FTP question?
[10:33] <lan3y> garden92, try just changing the homepage to what you want, its under preferences > general > homepage
[10:33] <proxx> sskniranjan >> lol not really , are u using  unity ?
[10:33] <Gentoo64> sskniranjan: i think it is possible with some des not sure about gnome
[10:33] <lan3y> liam_ don't ask to ask just shout it out
[10:33] <liam_> ok
[10:33] <garden92> ok. thanks
[10:34] <p00r_r00t> :(
[10:34] <proxx> p00r_r00t: sorry dude, i mean i cant shout anything that i can assure :)
[10:35] <liam_> I am using FileZilla on a normal FTP connection to another computer, is there any way to create a connection that would allow for both machines to be able to see each other's content? As far as I know normal FTP connections only allow this kind of control on the client machine
[10:35] <sskniranjan> ya i anm using ubuntu 11.10
[10:35] <p00r_r00t> any other channel i could get any help?
[10:36] <proxx> sskniranjan: youll have to use a 3rd party tool to do something like that , by default it cant ..
[10:36] <aussie_matt> hi guys, im hoping someone can help me :) I made a bootable usb that works on my desktop, but on my net book (aspire one) it brings up the first line which says syslinux or similar, and it stalls. any ideas?
[10:36] <sskniranjan> can u name any third party tool :proxx
[10:36] <proxx> p00r_r00t: check out distro watch , there are some real good rescue distros out there, prpbly with a dedicated manual
[10:36] <brianpWins> hmmm sudo echo "rossi" > /etc/hostname returns Permission denied  even though everything else i've sudo'd has worked
[10:37] <p00r_r00t> proxx, thanx
[10:37] <proxx> sskniranjan: 11.10 .. no sorry dont know any
[10:38] <jazzzzz> hello
[10:38] <proxx> brianpWins: and as root ?
[10:38] <sskniranjan> its ok proxx. thanx any way
[10:38] <jazzzzz> i try to compil alsa but it's not working well
[10:38] <liam_> again: Are FTP connections just one way? Is there a way to create a 2-way, or n-way connection?
[10:38] <jazzzzz> can somebody help me?
[10:38] <sskniranjan> proxx.  how to create the desktop icon for any app?
[10:38] <Gentoo64> jazzzzz: alsa should already be installed..
[10:38] <phlak_user> jazzzzz: ask away
[10:38] <jazzzzz> ok
[10:38] <brianpWins> proxx: sudo -u root echo "rossi" > /etc/hostname still gives permission denied
[10:38] <szal> jazzzzz: why _compile_ ALSA in the 1st place?
[10:39] <jazzzzz> alsa  is already instaled you're right
[10:39] <jazzzzz> but i need to compil it
[10:39] <Gentoo64> jazzzzz: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:39] <jazzzzz> because mysoundcarde is special
[10:39] <jazzzzz> it's a emu 1616m
[10:39] <phlak_user> brianpWins: that is not correct use the hostname command
[10:39] <vibhav> p00r_r00t: /msg ubottu test
[10:39] <jazzzzz> and it was not working
[10:40] <vibhav> oops
[10:40] <phlak_user> !hostname | brianpWins
[10:40] <Gentoo64> jazzzzz: i doubt compiling alsa wil help. i could be wrng. its probably a kernel drive you need
[10:40] <jazzzzz> so I read that i must compil
[10:40] <jazzzzz> what is a kernel drive?
[10:40] <Gentoo64> driver*
[10:40] <Gentoo64> i dont know what that sound card is though
[10:41] <jazzzzz> a kernel driver?
[10:41] <jazzzzz> never read abaout that
[10:41] <brianpWins> phlak_user: thanks!
[10:41] <proxx> sskniranjan: lol i dont know, i bailed out unity after 4 days :P
[10:41] <jazzzzz> a kernel modul?
[10:41] <Gentoo64> jazzzzz: do you get any soind at all?
[10:41] <jazzzzz> not with the new sound card
[10:42] <snosk8r> #xdcc
[10:42] <jazzzzz> i use to have some sound before, with the laptop sound card
[10:42] <jazzzzz> but now i compiled, and alsa is not installed anymore, so no sound at all
[10:42] <Gentoo64> jazzzzz: try lspci -vv in terminal see if it shows a kernel driver in use for your sound card
[10:43] <jazzzzz> Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[10:43] <jazzzzz> the sound card is shown
[10:43] <Gentoo64> at the bottom does it not say kernel driver in use:
[10:43] <jazzzzz> but it's not a audigy2, it's a emu1616m
[10:43] <jazzzzz> but this is normal, they say
[10:43] <Gentoo64> i dont know what it is
[10:43] <Gentoo64> yeah its probbaly normal
[10:44] <jazzzzz> !!ALSA Version
[10:44] <jazzzzz> !!------------
[10:44] <jazzzzz> Driver version:
[10:44] <jazzzzz> Library version:    1.0.24.1
[10:44] <FloodBot1> jazzzzz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <jazzzzz> Utilities version:  1.0.24.2
[10:44] <brianpWins> So even with sudo a regular user doesn't have permission to edit things in /etc/ ?
[10:44] <Gentoo64> hmm i got to go
[10:44] <Gentoo64> ill google it when i ocme back
[10:44] <brianpWins> regular user = user in admin group
[10:44] <phlak_user> brianpWins: he does
[10:44] <phlak_user> brianpWins: but that command you were using was not right
[10:45] <brianpWins> phlak_user: yeah, I'm onto a new one: sudo echo '# rbenv setup' > /etc/profile.d/rbenv.sh - Permission denied
[10:46] <jazzzzz> nobody can help for alsa compilation problem?
[10:47] <szal> jazzzzz: tried #alsa yet?
[10:48] <jazzzzz> #alsa
[10:48] <jazzzzz> heu where #alsa?
[10:48] <blackshirt> jazzzz: what exactly your problem ?
[10:49] <phlak_user> brianpWins: that redirect isnt covered by sudo
[10:49] <jazzzzz> i compil alsa, but after compilation, no alsa drivers found
[10:50] <jazzzzz> no alsamixer too
[10:50] <jazzzzz> the compilation don't work
[10:50] <jazzzzz> I don't know why
[10:50] <phlak_user> brianpWins: the right way to do it is either get into a root shell by typing sudo -i and then echo '# rbenv setup' > /etc/profile.d/rbenv.s
[10:50] <jazzzzz> I can send the result of the shell
[10:50] <brianpWins> phlak_user: cool i'll give that a go
[10:51] <Salamandre> Hi
[10:51] <Sanus> Hey, is it Unity that keeps me from using -any- options on anything at all, or it is just that half of the programs have been seriously dumbed down.
[10:51] <phlak_user> brianpWins: just edit the file directly with sudo vi /etc/profile.d/rbenv.sh and add that line (this assumes you know vi)
[10:51] <Salamandre> I'm in the english chan for ubuntu ?
[10:51] <Sanus> For example, I can't find any display options on empathy whatsoever.
[10:51] <phlak_user> Salamandre: yes
[10:51] <almoxarife> jazzzzz: you compiled alsa to achive what? what is it suppose to do once compiled?
[10:51] <Salamandre> okay. Thanks. I'll try to join the french chan ;)
[10:51] <phlak_user> Sanus: the options for empathy will appear on the panel
[10:52] <phlak_user> !fr| Salamandre
[10:52] <Sanus> I feel like an idiot
[10:52] <Sanus> Found the preferences
[10:52] <Salamandre> Thanks a lot ! ubottu
[10:53] <brianpWins> phlak_user: sudo -i is so handy. I never knew about it
[10:53] <phlak_user> brianpWins: cool; type ctl+d to exit the root shell when you're finished
[10:57] <brianpWins> hmmm I'm still finding a lot of commands run fine under root. but sudo command still seems to throw errors for my user even though he's in the admin group
[10:57] <luist> hey guys… what should i mount to be able to update the loading logo that i changed? http://pastie.org/2884835
[10:58] <MrS1lentcz> isnt here some grub2/efi specialist? :)))
[10:59] <reinhold> Hi all, can anyone tell me how to compile kernel modules from staging? I know how to compile external modules with module-assistent, but I haven't found a way yet to build a module from staging (in particular the usbip.ko module)
 once compiled my sound card emu1616m is supposed to be recognised by the system
[11:02]  * _G looking free irc shell
[11:03] <Bone_Lee> test irc chat...
[11:03] <theadmin> _G: Try Anapnea, they're the best shell provider I found. Also, this is offtopic.
[11:03] <Bone_Lee> 有中国朋友吗？
[11:03] <TehDGM> !cn Bone_Lee
[11:03] <MrS1lentcz> i need some grub specialist :))
[11:03] <TehDGM> gah whats the command for that
[11:03] <TehDGM> xD
[11:04] <theadmin> TehDGM: !factoid | username
[11:04] <Bone_Lee> OK
[11:04] <theadmin> !zh | Bone_Lee
[11:04] <TehDGM> aah
[11:04] <blackshirt> !tell MrS1lentcz grub2
[11:04] <TehDGM> ubottu are you a human?
[11:04] <Bone_Lee> thank you ubottu
[11:04] <TehDGM> doh
[11:04] <theadmin> TehDGM: She is just a bot
[11:04] <TehDGM> failed the turing test
[11:06] <MrS1lentcz> blackshirt: i have right configurated and installed grub - http://pastebin.com/xaEjSjtN - system not booing, but restarting repeatly :)
[11:06] <TimothyA> ubuntu 11.04; when starting up, all I get is a black screen and my mouse. I don't get to see the gnome interface or unity; anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:06] <Boreeas> I am trying to edit the etc/apt/sourceslist to add the virtualbox host. But even though I've set +w on the file, I still get an error when saving the file
[11:07] <Boreeas> "Error opening file '/etc/apt/sources.list': Permission denied"
[11:07] <MrS1lentcz> TimothyA: i mean, i have tha same problem... (for a few days) :)))
[11:07] <theadmin> Boreeas: You need root permissions...
[11:07] <Boreeas> How do I fix this?
[11:07] <theadmin> MrS1lentcz: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <theadmin> Oops
[11:07] <Boreeas> theadmin: sudo chmod +w won'T do?
[11:07] <theadmin> Boreeas: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <theadmin> Boreeas: No, you'd want "sudo chmod a+w", but that's rather dangerous...
[11:08] <makita420>  имт
[11:08] <Sanus> Well
[11:08] <TehDGM> !ru | makita420
[11:08] <TehDGM> yay
[11:08] <Sanus> I do not like kubuntu.
[11:08] <vibhav> Boreeas: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:08] <Sanus> I should not have installed it.
[11:08] <theadmin> TehDGM: That wasn't really russian, just a senseless set of cyrillics
[11:08] <Sanus> Would anyone know how to purge all the packages I got with it?
[11:08] <ikonia> vibhav: it's gksudo for graphical apps
[11:08] <theadmin> vibhav: Not sudo. gksu.
[11:09] <vibhav> ikonia: sudo too works
[11:09] <Myrtti> vibhav: no.
[11:09] <theadmin> Sanus: sudo tasksel remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:09] <ikonia> vibhav: no - it doesn't
[11:09] <theadmin> !worksforme | vibhav
[11:09] <Bone_Lee> hello, anybody knows how to use google app engine to create a irc server ?thks
[11:09] <ikonia> vibhav: it messes up the graphical files for the root user
[11:09] <Sanus> It doesn't seem I have tasksel
[11:09]  * conntrack looks for the exit
[11:09] <theadmin> Sanus: You should install it, it's the only real way
[11:10] <MrS1lentcz> theadmin: ah, is it not for me? :/
[11:10] <luist> hey guys, im trying to make a custom ubuntu livecd ISO but on the chroot and i cant change the loading logo: http://pastie.org/2884835
[11:10] <theadmin> MrS1lentcz: Yeah, sorry
[11:10] <ikonia> luist: we don't support custom spins
[11:10] <TimothyA> MrS1lentcz: and nobody knows? :|
[11:10] <TimothyA> have you ran fsck?
[11:10] <Sanus> Excellent
[11:10] <Sanus> Thank you theadmin
[11:10] <theadmin> Sanus: No problems
[11:10] <Sanus> theadmin Any alternatives to Unity that you'd suggest?
[11:10] <male26> BRAND NEW WEBSITE TO SHARE YOUR CHRISTMAS WISHES
[11:10] <male26> http://www.santaswall.net
[11:10] <FloodBot1> male26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <theadmin> Sanus: XFCE is what I use
[11:11] <luist> ikonia: cant you help me with what should i mount to run that command correctly?
[11:11] <Exopaladin> XFCE (xubuntu-desktop) is probably the closest to Gnome
[11:11] <theadmin> Sanus: It feels a lot like gnome2, if you like that you should like xfce too
[11:11] <vibhav> Sanus: xfce , kde to name a few
[11:11] <brianpWins> So I'm still getting the same error: If I try and run `gem install bundler` i get Permission denied. but `sudo gem install bundler` returns sudo: gem: command not found.
[11:11] <ikonia> luist: no, as we don't support custom spins
[11:11] <MrS1lentcz> TimothyA: how do you mean? :)
[11:11] <theadmin> brianpWins: Please give the output of: which gem
[11:11] <luist> ikonia: by "we" you mean you
[11:12] <ikonia> luist: the channel
[11:12] <Sanus> Weird.  Aptitude failed (100)
[11:12] <MrS1lentcz> TimothyA: oh, sure
[11:12] <brianpWins> theadmin: /usr/local/rbenv/shims/gem
[11:12] <vibhav> brianpWins: where is gem installed to?
[11:12] <luist> ikonia: lots of people would like to help
[11:12] <theadmin> brianpWins: Then, run: sudo /usr/local/rbenv/shims/gem install bundler
[11:12] <MrS1lentcz> TimothyA: try run boot_info_script.sh and past somewhere the log :)
[11:12] <ikonia> luist: the channels policy is not to support custom spins
[11:12] <luist> ikonia: ok w/e
[11:13] <TimothyA> currently running dpkg repair :/
[11:13] <theadmin> luist: ikonia is an admin here, don't mess with him :P
[11:13] <ikonia> no no, no need for that,
[11:13] <ikonia> more than happy to explain
[11:13] <Sanus> theadmin: What's the package for xfce
[11:14] <vibhav> Is there any way to run halt or reboot commands without sudo?
[11:14] <theadmin> Sanus: xfce4 (or xubuntu-desktop if you want all the nonsense that comes with Xubuntu)
[11:14] <Peaker> Hey, how do I get a grub menu at boot? It skips grub directly into booting ubuntu :-(
[11:14] <ikonia> vibhav: change the permissions on the file
[11:14] <Peaker> I want to add kernel options
[11:14] <MrS1lentcz> i need a grub specialist :) in #grub channel all are sleeping or working :)
[11:14] <theadmin> vibhav: Nope, but you can edit /etc/sudoers to allow you to run them without entering the password
[11:14] <iceroot> vibhav: not without a gui/dbus
[11:14] <brianpWins> theadmin: /usr/local/rbenv/shims/gem: line 4: exec: rbenv: not found so it seems like theres a rbenv issue =S
[11:14] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: that's there the grub specilists are, as I recall you are looking for efi help
[11:14] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: #grub is the best place
[11:15] <xruud> Which would be a good development program for a new program that will be displaying images from the internet? Not specific an Ubuntu question. But I need to get on-track...
[11:16] <sskniranjan> what is KdE
[11:16] <sskniranjan> i mean KDE
[11:16] <iceroot> !kde | sskniranjan
[11:17] <MrS1lentcz> ikonia: i know, but all are sleeping there :/
[11:17] <ikonia> MrS1lentcz: they will wake up
[11:17] <proxx> KDE users are sleepers anyway :P hehe
[11:17] <theadmin> brianpWins: Oh, that doesn't sound too well
[11:17] <proxx> hi ice
[11:17] <theadmin> brianpWins: I never honestly developed Ruby on Ubuntu so I can't help much
[11:18] <alex_ole> what's the best free backup solution?
[11:18] <frogonwheels_> 'scuse cross-post.  Anybody got clues why I have many packages doubled up (on amd64) after upgrade to oneric (on kubuntu and mythbuntu).  Possibly due to one being amd64 and one 386 - but can't tell which is which anyway..
[11:18] <ikonia> frogonwheels_: please don't cross post then
[11:18] <szal> proxx: get the context right or keep quiet please :)
[11:18] <brianpWins> theadmin: from what I can find the "system wide" install ins't supported by the developers right now. I guess Ihad just stumbled upon someone else's method to attempt it. so if thats true it's not surprising it's so error prone
[11:18] <theadmin> alex_ole: There's no "best", but try Dropbox (online) or rsync (offline, or to your own server)
[11:19] <MrS1lentcz_> unstable rekonq... grrrr
[11:19] <alex_ole> theadmin, thx
[11:19] <frogonwheels_> ikonia: yeah- but it's noisy in here - and dead-quiet in #kubuntu
[11:19] <Kim4x> Hi everyone!
[11:19] <frogonwheels_> ikonia: and it does relate generally to ubuntu (it seems) rather than specific to kubuntu
[11:19] <szal> frogonwheels_: if the pkgs are already installed, you can -> dpkg -l packagename
[11:20] <roote> hi all!
[11:20] <szal> frogonwheels_: other than that, what pkgs exactly?
[11:20] <roote> karmic disappeared from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ???
[11:20] <szal> !karmic
[11:20] <theadmin> roote: Yes, it's no longer supported, see http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <xruud> Which would be the correct channel to ask developmental questions? I need to devlop a program with a graphical component, but no user interaction
[11:22] <theadmin> xruud: #ubuntu-devel might be more of the place
[11:22] <frogonwheels_> szal: hold a sec.many.  acpi-support acpid apmd apparmor apturl  .. many, many.
[11:23] <frogonwheels_> I'm viewing in aptitude btw.
[11:24] <xruud> theadmin: thank you
[11:24] <roote> theadmin: thanks! saved my day :)
[11:24] <brianpWins> theadmin: oh weird. according to the git post times. this method has only been kicking around for about 3 hours lol
[11:24] <theadmin> roote: No problem... Why do you *need* an outdated release?
[11:25] <roote> theadmin: old server install
[11:25] <conntrack> Oh a connection got stuck
[11:25] <conntrack> Must be the time_wait issue I see
[11:25] <conntrack> Err have
[11:26] <Falk_Amsterdam> can someone help me: Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on PPC_G5. pre-installed firefox-3.5 only opens interminal (sudo firefox) but not in the graphical interface. Does anyone know why?
[11:26] <Falk_Amsterdam> I also cant find an alternative browser chromium becauce i cant finda source that is built for ppc_IBM architecture,does anyone know?
[11:26] <conntrack> How annoying
[11:26] <frogonwheels_> szal: seems it only (in aptitude this is) shows one installed if there is one installed. (so it's not two views onto the same package info)
[11:26] <theadmin> Falk_Amsterdam: Because you used "sudo firefox"...
[11:26] <theadmin> Falk_Amsterdam: You don't run Firefox as root.
[11:26] <conntrack> Now I have to reset my firewall
[11:27] <theadmin> Falk_Amsterdam: Delete ~/.mozilla and try again
[11:27] <Falk_Amsterdam> cool thanks
[11:27] <vibhav> Falk_Amsterdam: Why are you using sudo?
[11:27] <ikonia> frogonwheels_: the PPC port is pretty dead/unmaintained
[11:27] <xruud> theadmin: that channel is a lot less busy :( But we'll see what I get
[11:27] <Falk_Amsterdam> because it seems that firefox doesnt open another way
[11:28] <crizzy> afaik you can't even buy PPC hardware anywhere anymore
[11:28] <theadmin> xruud: What language are you developing, anyway?
[11:28] <topriddy> ...how do i tell apt-get to search for where a program is? am trying to install lib4l4j-java
[11:28] <crizzy> well, except ibm servers
[11:28] <crizzy> but anything for the desktops
[11:28] <theadmin> topriddy: apt-cache search "that weird thing"
[11:28] <samba23> i am on ubuntu server 10.4 on esxi i want to use pen drive in ubuntu ,how do i get installed pen drive
[11:28] <Falk_Amsterdam> @ ikonia: ppc port is dead, isthere another way to get appsd
[11:29] <xruud> theadmin: none so far. I have no real preference yet. Except I strongly dislike java (lately I HAD to for Android)
[11:29] <ikonia> frogonwheels_: well, there is a 10.04 build. it's just not well maintained
[11:29] <ikonia> oops Falk_Amsterdam ^
[11:29] <theadmin> xruud: I hate Java as well (even though I kinda like C#. Weird, huh?)
[11:29] <crizzy> buy x86_64, enjoy :)
[11:29] <frogonwheels_> ikonia: :)  Had me confused there.
[11:30] <xruud> theadmin: I hate java mostly because I loose track and it is slugish
[11:30] <topriddy> theadmin: sure? nothing happens
[11:30] <theadmin> topriddy: Maybe we don't have that...
[11:30] <Boreeas> I think my audio drivers just crashed, they are just giving me a feeping noise. Can I reload them somehow, or do I have  to reboot?
[11:30] <topriddy> theadmin: okay. i need to write a java app to stream from camera.
[11:30] <gener1c> is there a way to set the environment in which the command i set in the crontab will work?
[11:31] <theadmin> topriddy: I'm not into Java, so I have no idea how you'd do that...
[11:31] <theadmin> gener1c: Define "environment"
[11:31] <gener1c> the current directory
[11:31] <crizzy> Using.Trollface;
[11:31] <alex_ole> gener1c, write in cron "VAR=val /your/script.sh"
[11:32] <theadmin> gener1c: Um, "cd"?
[11:32] <alex_ole> gener1c, never tried it but should work
[11:32] <topriddy> theadmin: i an getting: "The followingg packages have unmet dependencies" on running apt-get install.
[11:32] <Sanus> theadmin: Tasksel is giving me a weird aptitude failed (100) error.
[11:33] <theadmin> Sanus: Huh... That's odd
[11:33] <gener1c> alex_ole: where in cron shall i write VAR=val?
[11:33] <gener1c> should*
[11:33] <topriddy> theadmin: how do i launch apt-get install such that it installs transparently other dependencies?
[11:33] <alex_ole> before you command\
[11:33] <gener1c> ok
[11:33] <alex_ole> gener1c, before you command
[11:33] <gener1c> then ill do &&
[11:33] <topriddy> please?
[11:33] <gener1c> or ;
[11:33] <iceroot> topriddy: that is the default
[11:33] <alex_ole> gener1c, no, separate by space only
[11:33] <gener1c> ok
[11:33] <theadmin> topriddy: Try using aptitude
[11:34] <iceroot> topriddy: when you get such an error its because you are using a ppa (not supported) or installed something by hand (dpkg -i) before
[11:34] <topriddy> iceroot: what do i do now?
[11:34] <iceroot> topriddy: or mixing other repos
[11:34] <topriddy> iceroot: i added a  repos already.
[11:34] <Raliegh> Okay, who wants to help me out here? >.<
[11:34] <iceroot> topriddy: what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "cat /etc/issue"
[11:35] <iceroot> Raliegh: just ask a detailed question in one line
[11:35] <TxEdition> anybody help.. having issues setting up my shared folder in VM..
[11:35] <iceroot> !details | TxEdition
[11:35] <iceroot> TxEdition: but normally that goes to #vbox
[11:35] <iceroot> !paste | topriddy
[11:36] <Raliegh> Trying to install many things on Ubuntu 11.04 via apt-get install. Terrible issues regarding broken packages. This includes MYsql, build-essential, and a few others.
[11:36] <iceroot> Raliegh: details
[11:36] <Sanus> Need help with tasksel.  It keeps giving me "aptitude failed (100)".  I've tried getting lamp-server...?  Whatever that is?
[11:36] <TxEdition> Running Ubuntu 11.10 as host and Win7 as Guest in VMbox 4.1.6.. Can not seem to set up my shared folder correctly so I can transfer files from guest to host
[11:36] <iceroot> Raliegh: what command, what error, output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:36] <conntrack> Why would some tcp connection states run as root?
[11:37] <iceroot> Sanus: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[11:37] <topriddy> iceroot: i am simply following instructions here
[11:37] <nettezzaumana> hello
[11:37] <topriddy> iceroot: here: http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/wiki/DebianInstall
[11:37] <Raliegh> Uhh, fine. We'll mess with MySQL. I changed my sources.list to a default sources.list I found online (since my VPS doesn't offer a good list). apt-install mysql-server returns this:
[11:37] <iceroot> conntrack: everything below port 1024 needs root
[11:37] <ejv> TxEdition: WinSCP works quite well or Filezilla, anything that supports SSH2
[11:37] <Raliegh>  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.0 but it is not going to be installed
[11:37] <Hardhead> hi
[11:37] <topriddy> the apt repository option didnt work so I tried manual. Still #failed too :(
[11:37] <Sanus> iceroot: That is completely random.  Apache2 is already the latest version however
[11:37] <iceroot> topriddy: this is ubuntu, not debian
[11:37] <christina> can i install ubuntu in usb pen drive and use it like we use OS which is installed in HDD ?
[11:37] <albech> !lamp | Sanus
[11:37] <theadmin> Raliegh: Did you run apt-get update after changing the list?
[11:37] <conntrack> iceroot: That wasn't the question
[11:37] <Hardhead> does any1 use virtual machine manager?
[11:37] <iceroot> christina: yes
[11:37] <Raliegh> Indeed I did, of course.
[11:38] <iceroot> !usb | christina
[11:38] <ejv> im sure people use vm managers lol
[11:38] <TxEdition> Would those suggestions be appropriate for transfering a fresh install of WoW which is 10.8 Gigs
[11:38] <ejv> i don't see why not; ssh is a robust protocol i assure you
[11:38] <iceroot> conntrack: then i dont know what you mean
[11:38] <nettezzaumana> i'm not ubuntu user and i don't have ubuntu but one of ours customers has some on workstation ... which pkg please brings dhcpcd-test binary ? i can't see a dhcpcd package for 11.10
[11:38] <Sanus> I see.  So it was unneccessary.
[11:38] <Raliegh> Let me paste the sources.list on that link.
[11:38] <christina> i cant install another HDD in pc but i want to use ubuntu full so I want to install whole OS ""in"" usb stick not ""from"" usb stick
[11:38] <iceroot> !who | Raliegh
[11:39] <iceroot> christina: the link is handling both
[11:39] <conntrack> iceroot: Someone does
[11:39] <iceroot> conntrack: great
[11:39] <Kim4x> christina: and yes you can
[11:39] <conntrack> iceroot: It isn't
[11:39] <kanupatar> I am building the android gingerbread on ubuntu 11.10 ..
[11:39] <kanupatar> but I am hitting build issues like , frameworks/base/libs/utils/RefBase.cpp:483:67: error: passing ‘const android::RefBase::weakref_impl’ as ‘this’ argument of ‘void android::RefBase::weakref_impl::trackMe(bool, bool)’ discards qualifiers [-fpermissive] make: *** [out/host/linux-x86/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libutils_intermediates/RefBase.o] Error 1
[11:39] <iceroot> kanupatar: #android
[11:39] <christina> but how would i use ubuntu , as i have already HDD in which win7 is intalled , how i will boot from ubuntu ?
[11:39] <Raliegh> iceroot: Yes, I updated my system after editing the sources. My current sources is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745046/
[11:39] <ejv> hardly seems like a question you should be asking here...
[11:40] <kanupatar> whats the difference in compiler and toolchain version in 10.04 and 10.10 have?
[11:40] <Kim4x> christina: you have to change your boot preferences
[11:40] <iceroot> Raliegh: cat /etc/issue
[11:40] <christina> each time if i want to use ubuntu from USB i have to put usb and if i want to use windows then i have to remove usb
[11:40] <Kim4x> christina: look at your BIOS
[11:40] <Raliegh> iceroot: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[11:41] <nettezzaumana> omg, this channel is ******** .. so much buzz
[11:41] <conntrack> I'm wondering whether time_wait owned by root is a serious security issue
[11:41] <iceroot> Raliegh: then why you putting hardy in the sources.list?
[11:41] <topriddy> iceroot: ???
[11:41] <iceroot> Raliegh: hardy is 8.04
[11:41] <kanupatar> iceroot: I am trying to figure out the tool version difference b/w 10.04 and 11.10
[11:41] <Sanus> iceroot: Trying to use Tasksel to remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <iceroot> !puregnome | Sanus
[11:41] <Raliegh> iceroot: Because I don't get a sources list on fresh install, and I can't locate one anywhere... Care to help me out?
[11:41] <iceroot> Sanus: use the example for kde
[11:42] <Sanus> Thank you.
[11:42] <alex_ole> !sl
[11:42] <Raliegh> iceroot: Well, I get a sources list but it only has like... 3 lines, no universe or multiverse. No repositories I truly need.
[11:42] <iceroot> Raliegh: sudo sed -i s/hardy/natty/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <iceroot> Raliegh: first change the hardy-lines which are complettly wrong
[11:43] <JasonGriffee> how do I change grub timeout?
[11:44] <Raliegh> iceroot: Ran that command, no errors returned but quick spacing to next line. And honestly I've no idea how to properly edit the sources file other than adding/removing whole lines.
[11:44] <vibhav> JasonGriffee: GRUB2 or GRUB?
[11:44] <JasonGriffee> ubuntu 11.10 default
[11:44] <Raliegh> iceroot: that command and update seemed to have fixed it though, I can now install MySQL
[11:44] <iceroot> Raliegh: great
[11:44] <Raliegh> 5.1 only, but that's good enough for me. That's a command for the books. Thanks a lot. <3
[11:45] <iceroot> Sanus: of course dont run the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after if you dont want it
[11:45] <iceroot> Raliegh: no, forget the command
[11:45] <Kim4x> JasonGriffee: it's probably in /etc/default/grub
[11:45] <Sanus> iceroot: *nods*
[11:45] <iceroot> Raliegh: it should only be used when something like that is happening (which will not happen by default) never use that command to upgrade your distri
[11:46] <Raliegh> iceroot: It resets the sources back to default no? Seems I'll have to do this after any VPS install. I've never owned a VPS that offers proper sources.
[11:46] <iceroot> Raliegh: it will replace the string "hardy" with the string "natty"
[11:47] <Raliegh> iceroot: Oooooh. Well, luckily enough it worked (for MySQL at least) so I guess it's a good thing I just needed hardy added.
[11:47] <iceroot> Raliegh: if that is the default your provider is offering to you after you get the vps, beat him :)
[11:47] <vibhav> JasonGriffee: You need to edit /etc/default/grub (gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub) and change the GRUB_TIMEOUT parameter. The value of this parameter is in seconds
[11:47] <Raliegh> iceroot: Hahaha. I'll make sure to do that. xD
[11:47] <iceroot> Raliegh: hardy needs to be removed and replaced with your current version, which is natty
[11:48] <Raliegh> iceroot: I take it that's bound to change with any new Ubuntu distros? (full-version updates)
[11:48] <iceroot> Raliegh: on an upgrade it is changed automaticly
[11:48] <iceroot> !upgrade | Raliegh
[11:48] <topriddy> there used to be a useful and easy to use and launch gui app that shows all currently running services. i am trying to checkk status of saned
[11:48] <iceroot> Raliegh: please only use that to upgrade your system
[11:49] <Raliegh> I'm going AFK to finish this setup. I'm bound to be back with my luck.
[11:50] <rumpe1> topriddy, service list all or something like that... check man service
[11:51] <topriddy> rumpe1: there used to be a *gui* in earlier versions of ubuntu. in fact i miss the whole desktopp tab and the app they made available
[11:51] <iceroot> topriddy: sudo service --status-all
[11:51] <TimothyA> could someone help me with getting gnome/unity running on ubuntu?
[11:51] <TimothyA> it's broken, miserably
[11:51] <rumpe1> topriddy, sorry, don't care about guis :>
[11:52] <topriddy> rumpe1: some people do care. Kinda hurting that these things arent so easy to locate any more.
[11:52] <Kim4x> TimothyA: details?
[11:52] <TimothyA> Kim4x: if only I knew them :| ubuntu boots up, I don't get the loading screen, but I do get booted into userspace
[11:52] <TimothyA> but all I get it a blank screen and mouse cursor
[11:53] <kanupatar> Hello I am hitting build issues while building the gingerbread in ubuntu 11.10 like , frameworks/base/libs/utils/RefBase.cpp:483:67: error: passing ‘const android::RefBase::weakref_impl’ as ‘this’ argument of ‘void android::RefBase::weakref_impl::trackMe(bool, bool)’ discards qualifiers [-fpermissive] make: *** [out/host/linux-x86/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libutils_intermediates/RefBase.o] Error 1
[11:55] <iceroot> kanupatar: #android
[11:55] <iceroot> kanupatar: this is ubuntu support, if you have technical issues with other projects (like android) ask them please
[11:55] <topriddy> iceroot: given foo is my service name, how would the syntax look like? i keep getting foo:unrecognized service
[11:55] <iceroot> kanupatar: if you think it is an bug in ubuntu, please use "ubuntu-bug"
[11:56] <iceroot> topriddy: we are talking about upstart-services?
[11:56] <kanupatar> iceroot: not ubuntu bug man
[11:57] <kanupatar> iceroot: may i know the toolchain changes from LTS to oneric olcelot
[11:57] <mmv> topriddy: look at /etc/init.d/ for the service name, service is just a wrapper around /etc/init.d/servicename start|stop|etc
[11:57] <iceroot> kanupatar: apt-get changelog foobar
[11:57] <topriddy> iceroot: well saned is a camera service. i just want to see all registered system services and their statuses
[11:57] <topriddy> mmv: now thats useful. :)
[11:57] <kanupatar> iceroot: okay
[11:57] <topriddy> but really where is the gui for this? did they remove it?
[11:58] <iceroot> topriddy: as i said "sudo servide --status-all"
[11:58] <topriddy> iceroot: that command lists all services, but not their status.
[11:59] <iceroot> topriddy: or "sudo service foo status"
[11:59] <topriddy> iceroot: i get the service listings, with a ?, - or + listed with it. what does that mean?
[11:59] <TimothyA> :|
[11:59] <rumpe1> topriddy, check "man service"
[12:00] <TimothyA> please don't tell me that the os is borked
[12:00] <topriddy> iceroot: it saves saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
[12:00] <TimothyA> I already did a dpkg repair and re-installed everything, fsck, installed vbox guest additions...
[12:00] <TimothyA> is there *any* way to get into UI mode again?
[12:00] <topriddy> iceroot: it says* saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
[12:00] <ejv> TimothyA: login over a shell and reset xorg
[12:01] <iceroot> topriddy: then edit that file
[12:01] <TimothyA> ejv: how do I reset xorg?
[12:01] <CrazyThinker> Can I remove the edge/border of icons in unity launcher?
[12:01] <ejv> rm /etc/x11/xorg.conf && dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[12:01] <iceroot> ejv: TimothyA dont use rm
[12:01]  * helloqwl 
[12:01] <ejv> or xorg-server i forget what it's actually called
[12:01]  * helloqwl has entered
[12:01] <iceroot> ejv: TimothyA sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[12:01] <ejv> why not, if it's not working it's worthless
[12:02] <ejv> waste of bytes lol
[12:02] <iceroot> ejv: as i said, dont suggest that here please
[12:02] <TimothyA> iceroot: those don't exist
[12:02] <iceroot> TimothyA: then xserver is running with the defaults
[12:02] <ejv> just answering the bloody question, relax lol
[12:02] <TimothyA> there are a bunch of config files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ though
[12:02] <iceroot> TimothyA: so no need to "reset" it
[12:03] <TimothyA> iceroot: so what's the next step?
[12:03] <iceroot> TimothyA: what is the issue?
[12:03] <TimothyA> ubuntu boots, no loading screen, black screen when booted. white cursor only
[12:03] <TimothyA> and nothing else
[12:03] <iceroot> TimothyA: there was something about "nomodeset" as bootparameter
[12:04] <TimothyA> no idea where to put that
[12:04] <ejv> can you access a tty, make your changes there
[12:04] <iceroot> !nomodeset | TimothyA
[12:06]  * TimothyA reboots
[12:06] <JViz> is there a software for viewing and editing ext3 disk images in a file browser?
[12:06] <iceroot> JViz: mount
[12:06] <JViz> iceroot: i have to mount it?
[12:06] <iceroot> JViz: if we are talking about images created with dd
[12:07] <JViz> iceroot: it's supposed to be an ext3 image, but i have no idea how it was created
[12:07] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[12:07] <TimothyA> well, at least now I get to see the errors
[12:07] <iceroot> JViz: i would say to mount the image somewhere and then view and make your changes to the content of that filesystem is the best way
[12:09] <JViz> iceroot: ok, will do. thank you
[12:09] <geirha> JViz: sudo mount -oloop file.img /mnt && xdg-open /mnt/
[12:10] <TimothyA> iceroot: http://i.imgur.com/omecW.png
[12:11] <geirha> JViz: Don't forget to unmount it when you're done.
[12:12] <TimothyA> services are refusing to start :|
[12:14] <TimothyA> at least, the service monitor seems to be borked
[12:14] <JViz> geirha: that worked great! thank you!
[12:15] <zykotick9> TimothyA, pay particular attention to that "blue" error message
[12:15] <TimothyA> ... I can't read it
[12:16] <TimothyA> cryptswap1?
[12:16] <TimothyA> or n... ??
[12:16] <jatt> can I run the gnome-system-monitor applet in an xfce applet?
[12:16] <TimothyA> I don't use any encrypted drives
[12:16] <jatt> I mean xfce panel?
[12:16] <zykotick9> TimothyA, really?
[12:17] <TimothyA> zykotick9: really what?
[12:17] <TimothyA> it's really damn hard to read dark blue on black with sunglare
[12:17] <zykotick9> TimothyA, "I don't use any encrypted drives" that error seems to suggest you do.  Well, good luck.
[12:18] <TimothyA> but... I'm not using any encrypted drives :|
[12:18] <TimothyA> default ubuntu installation doesn't use encrypted drives, right?
[12:18] <syn-ack> Only if you chose to
[12:18] <TimothyA> there was an option for that?
[12:18] <syn-ack> Yes
[12:18] <TimothyA> anyhow, I can still access all my files
[12:18] <Gentoo64> encrypt home partition afaik
[12:18] <TimothyA> ... who cares about the home partition?
[12:18] <Gentoo64> youll be able to access the files when you login ..
[12:19] <TimothyA> I do everything outside the home partition
[12:19] <syn-ack> WTF
[12:19] <syn-ack> why?
[12:19] <Gentoo64> no im saying thats the option on the uubntu install
[12:19] <syn-ack> that's dangerous
[12:19] <TimothyA> syn-ack: in a seperate directory -_-
[12:19] <Akiraa> have you managed to get UBUNTU SERVER to boot with a HEADLESS (without monitor) VNC server? i.e. to have users use a graphics session remotely, without the server needing a monitor/keyboard and local input to work
[12:19] <TimothyA> and I mainly do web development, so I just throw it in /var/www/
[12:19] <syn-ack> ah
[12:20] <TimothyA> but yeah... how to solve this issue?
[12:20] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[12:20] <syn-ack> even then, I'd personally symlink it to a dir in $HOME
[12:20] <Gentoo64> it shouldnt matter where you put files as long as you know what you're doing
[12:21] <syn-ack> Don't know. like others have said, the error you're having seems to suggest a key error
[12:21] <TimothyA> well, it doesn't put the error in any of the files of /var/log
[12:21] <TimothyA> syn-ack: key error?
[12:21] <syn-ack> in other words a decryption error
[12:21] <TimothyA> :|
[12:21] <TimothyA> well, I can still see everything in /home/
[12:21] <TimothyA> sooo... I guess it's not that?
[12:22] <fbh> Does HP tools work on ubuntu`?
[12:23] <fbh> (10.04 LTS)
[12:23] <Rictoo> any idea why imagemagick mucks up appending lots of highres images with only 2gb ram? :(
[12:23] <Rictoo> with the especially large images it outputs a pretty glitched image
[12:23] <Rictoo> im just looking for a hardware explanation, if there is one :P
[12:24] <syn-ack> wait a minute
[12:24] <syn-ack> TimothyA, Did you roll your own kernel?
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: thats weird, i thought it'd either work or fail
[12:24] <Rictoo> same here
[12:24] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: graphicsmagick is meant to be improved version
[12:25] <Rictoo> thanks, i'll check it out
[12:25] <zykotick9> luist, fyi you need to do the mounting of proc,sys, ETC. before you chroot not after.  But looks like you're using encrypted file system as well, so I can't help
[12:25] <syn-ack> TimothyA...
[12:25] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: look on their site. they done a lot of code improvements so it might work better
[12:25] <TimothyA> syn-ack: no
[12:25] <syn-ack> I wonder if your initrd is jacked up for some reason
[12:25] <zykotick9> luist, you can see "/msg ubottu grub2" link for proper chroot instructions
[12:26] <Rictoo> "GraphicsMagick supports huge images and has been tested with gigapixel-size images."
[12:26] <Rictoo> ah, that's what i'm talking about. ;)
[12:26] <Gentoo64> :)
[12:26] <syn-ack> TimothyA, Did this start happening after an upgrade?
[12:26] <Rictoo> wish i'd known this before i automated a system of dling image chunks off a website and deleting the originals
[12:26] <Rictoo> haha
[12:27] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: i think the commands are the same but im not 100% sure
[12:27] <Rictoo> "GM suffers from fewer security issues and exploits."
[12:27] <TimothyA> syn-ack: no
[12:27] <TimothyA> out of the blue
[12:27] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: i have both on my system but hardly touch them
[12:27] <Rictoo> i didnt know an image manipulation program could have security issues...?
[12:27] <TimothyA> I installed 11.04 and I stuck with 11.04
[12:27] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: but graphicsmagick is definately the better of the 2
[12:27] <Rictoo> Gentoo64, what are you doing in an ubuntu channel with that nickname? :P
[12:27] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: anything can have exploits pretty much..
[12:28] <syn-ack> TimothyA, Have you checked your hardware?
[12:28] <TimothyA> vbox
[12:28] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: i come in here quite  abit
[12:28] <Rictoo> ah true i guess if it's accessible by the public on an open server it could be exploited
[12:28] <TimothyA> http://i.imgur.com/ee1Cw.png
[12:28] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: probably local exploits with that ap
[12:28] <TimothyA> the thing is, vbox is installed, and it shouldn't be failing
[12:29] <Rictoo> hmm, they dont have the +append command in their benchmarks
[12:29] <TimothyA> and yes; I have reinstalled the guest additions 10 times now
[12:29] <syn-ack> Vbox isn't failing.
[12:29] <Gentoo64> Rictoo: you might have th read the docs, im not sure about the commands. but afaik it can do everything imagemagick can
[12:29] <TimothyA> then I'm wondering what, because I can't find any logs to help me resolve the damn thing
[12:29] <Rictoo> i mean, they're not showing off how much faster +append is
[12:30] <TimothyA> this is almost as useful as windows's hardware error "Cannot start (code 10)"
[12:30] <Rictoo> i'll report back in a minute
[12:30] <syn-ack> TimothyA, klog isn't showing *anything*?
[12:30] <TimothyA> I did a grep through the whole /var/log directory
[12:30] <syn-ack> Don't grep
[12:30] <Kentrel> Hey, WEIRD problem. I'm losing directories at random. They're not getting deleted, but I know they were there yesterday
[12:30] <Gentoo64> Kentrel: like what?
[12:31] <Kentrel> It started out having a few files missing, then being a corrupt directory, now its gone
[12:31] <TimothyA> klog isn't installed?
[12:31] <syn-ack> TimothyA, Get your eyes in there and look in case your syntax is wrong
[12:31] <Gentoo64> Kentrel: try fsck maybe
[12:31] <TimothyA> .... jeesus christ, it needs 200MB to be installed?!
[12:31] <TimothyA> why does klog need UI libraries o.O
[12:31] <TimothyA> apt-get install klog, right?
[12:32] <TimothyA> or did you use it as an abbreviation for kernel.log ?
[12:33] <Rictoo> hmm
[12:33] <Rictoo> 5 seconds for graphicsmagick and 7 for imagemagick
[12:33] <Rictoo> not bad i guess
[12:34] <Rictoo> Gentoo64,
 5 seconds for graphicsmagick and 7 for imagemagick
[12:34] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, i dont actually know much about either of those progs :)
[12:34] <Rictoo> now i wonder how it'll deal with those images that glitched up in imagemagick
[12:34] <TimothyA> I see a lot of "vboxguest loaded successfully"
[12:34] <me-1> hi...I am trying toreinstall software center . getting this error http://paste.debian.net/146488/
[12:35] <Gentoo64> well all i know it thats its better, and has cleaned up/improved code so it may be better
[12:35] <broglin> gdm has suddenly stopped showing the login screen and I am presented with a broken xfce4 desktop (no window manager)
[12:35] <syn-ack> TimothyA, It was an abbrev
[12:35] <broglin> how can I diagnose that?
[12:35] <zykotick9> me-1, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center"
[12:35] <TimothyA> syn-ack: well, no errors in kern.log
[12:36] <broglin> i'm on natty
[12:37] <syn-ack> TimothyA, interesting
[12:37] <zykotick9> broglin, "gdmsetup" is it set to autologin?
[12:38] <broglin> zykotick9: i don't know. I can't use X at the moment...
[12:38] <broglin> zykotick9: and gdmsetup doesn't seem to be a CLI app
[12:38] <zykotick9> broglin, it's not.  good luck.
[12:38] <jrgifford> ect
[12:38] <TimothyA> plymouth failed again
[12:38] <Rictoo> Gentoo64, thanks for the tip though. i'll report back in half an hour or so whether graphicsmagick can avoid glitchy images where imagemagick cant
[12:39] <Gentoo64> ok cool
[12:39] <TimothyA> unable to start GNOME display manager
[12:39] <Rictoo> apparently it happens when appending 2000x2000 chunks into an approx. >25,000x2000 image
[12:40] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, :s no idea
[12:41] <Gentoo64> are you using opencl with imagemagick?
[12:41] <Rictoo> i dont know, Gentoo64
[12:42] <Gentoo64> hm prob not, dont know if that matters anyway. hope gm works though
[12:42] <Rictoo> yep. downloading the chunks now (i deleted originals) and then i'll compare
[12:42] <happosade> 2/n
[12:42] <happosade> (Sorry)
[12:42] <TimothyA> "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager" when trying to start gdm manually
[12:43] <rykka> hello. anyone knows how to compile the libpython2.7.so ? mine seems have some error
[12:44] <TimothyA> well, this is interesting
[12:44] <Rictoo> noo
[12:44] <TimothyA> seems gdm is ****ed
[12:44] <Rictoo> Gentoo64, graphicsmagick does the same thing :(
[12:44] <Gentoo64> ah
[12:44] <Rictoo> its not even spitting out an error or anything
[12:44] <Gentoo64> :(
[12:45] <Rictoo> just outputs a glitched image
[12:45] <Rictoo> i need to buy more ram
[12:45] <Gentoo64> maybe its the imageformat?
[12:45] <Gentoo64> i have no idea
[12:45] <Rictoo> jpg
[12:46] <TimothyA> "unable to load file /etc/gdm/custom.conf"
[12:47] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, i cant really help sorry
[12:47] <Rictoo> no problem :) thanks anyway
[12:47] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, what are you trying to do with the image?
[12:47] <Rictoo> oh.
[12:47] <Rictoo> my.
[12:47] <Rictoo> god.
[12:47] <Rictoo> i found the problem, Gentoo64
[12:47] <Gentoo64> what
[12:47] <VV> i lost my ubuntu terminal
[12:47] <VV> only left with xterm
[12:48] <Rictoo> my images are sorted as row0_column1 -> blabla -> row0_column9 -> row0_column10
[12:48] <Kingsy> anyone know much about wget in here?
[12:48] <Rictoo> and i was passing the argument as row0*
[12:48] <Gentoo64> VV, type gnome-terminal in xterm
[12:48] <Rictoo> and it didnt know that 10 came after 9
[12:48] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, ah lol
[12:48] <Rictoo> but there's still the distortion at the end on some images
[12:48] <Rictoo> but maybe thats a sideeffect of that
[12:48] <Gentoo64> Rictoo, well, use GM anyway
[12:48] <Gentoo64> if you want
[12:48] <Rictoo> i will :) and do you know how i could solve this problem?
[12:48] <Rictoo> maybe name them columna columnb columnc ?
[12:49] <Gentoo64> no idea
[12:49] <Rictoo> ok well cheers anyway
[12:49] <Gentoo64> like i say i never use them progs myself
[12:49] <Gentoo64> i just have them available
[12:49] <zykotick9> Rictoo, use 01 02 03 .. 10 perhaps
[12:50] <VV> Gentoo64 still nothing
[12:50] <Kingsy> can someone answer some wget questions for me?
[12:50] <Gentoo64> VV from xterm apt-get install gnome-terminal
[12:50] <Gentoo64> dno what happened there
[12:54] <TimothyA> okay, so basically the whole installation is borked? -_-
[12:56] <incorrect> I am looking for a nice gui tool to make an image of a disk, yes i could use dd, but i want something pretty
[12:58] <TimothyA> grrrr
[12:58] <TimothyA> I'm just about through with ubuntu
[12:58] <Browser> Hi
[12:59] <bbya> What is the shortcut for minimizing all open windows? [super]+[D] isn't working although had been defined in the keyboard shortcuts.
[12:59] <bbya> (in Unity)
[12:59] <Rictoo> cotton pickin finger lickin chicken plucker
[12:59] <biopyte> I have a severe problem with PDF export in Libre Office.
[13:00] <TimothyA> thank you ubuntu, for making MONTHS of work suddendly completely and utterly USELESS
[13:00] <Rictoo> whats the problem ti
[13:00] <Rictoo> TimothyA,
[13:00] <biopyte> Result: Cannot extract the embedded font 'LM Sans 10 - Bold'. Some characters may not display or print correctly. PDF does not display in Acrobat Reader.
[13:00] <TimothyA> Rictoo: the UI won't start properly
[13:00] <biopyte> Ubuntu 11.04
[13:00] <TimothyA> I've reinstall gdm, xorg and vboxguest already
[13:00] <Rictoo> whats the error?
[13:01] <TimothyA> I don't know!
[13:01] <biopyte> Libre Office 3.3.4
[13:01] <biopyte> Any idea?
[13:01] <TimothyA> Rictoo: it just throws irrelevant errors left and right, and completely neglects to log actual errors
[13:02] <biopyte> Always worked, never had problems with PDF export before.
[13:02] <TimothyA> xorg starts just fine. gdm says it can't get a display and /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't exist
[13:02] <VV> Gentoo64 ya done everythin but the terminal disappears in less than a sec when opening it
[13:02] <Rictoo> so dont use gdm?
[13:02] <Rictoo> gnome sucks anyway
[13:03] <TimothyA> when doing xinit | gdm, it boots me back into a black screen with only my mouse cursor
[13:03] <Rictoo> TimothyA, have you tried purging gdm?
[13:03] <TimothyA> yes
[13:03] <TimothyA> I've tried reinstalling it, too
[13:03] <Rictoo> have you tried using kdm or something?
[13:03] <bbya> ok so [super]+[d] works for other apps, just not with Google Chrome! Any solutions?
[13:03] <TimothyA> no
[13:04] <TimothyA> I don't want to use kdm
[13:04] <Rictoo> then use xdm
[13:04] <fish_> hi
[13:04] <bbya> hi fish
[13:04] <oobiloz> hi
[13:04] <broglin> can anyone help me to fix my X? i upgraded xserver-xorg-video-intel and now it's broken
[13:05] <broglin> this is on natty
[13:05] <VV> hello guys my terminal disappears within a sec when i try to open it
[13:05] <Rictoo> or use lightdm, TimothyA
[13:05] <TimothyA> Rictoo: -_-
[13:05] <Rictoo> its similar to gdm
[13:05] <Rictoo> its just a login manager..
[13:05] <Rictoo> not the end of the world if you use another one
[13:05] <dr_willis> !info slim
[13:06] <TimothyA> xdm shows a login dialog
[13:06] <TimothyA> but I can't get any further than that
[13:06] <TimothyA> it will just restart
[13:06] <dr_willis> so does going to the console, killing all the *dm's and using 'startx' work?
[13:06] <Rictoo> TimothyA, restart on login?
[13:06] <TimothyA> dr_willis: yes, but then I end up with a black screen and an 'x' cursor
[13:07] <TimothyA> Rictoo: the process restart
[13:07] <TimothyA> s
[13:07] <Rictoo> on login?
[13:07] <Rictoo> or before you get a chance
[13:07] <dr_willis> yes it works but it dosent work? huh?
[13:07] <TimothyA> dr_willis: if that's what you say what it does
[13:07] <TimothyA> I was expecting some kind of taskbar or at least a console window
[13:07] <dr_willis> so startx does NOT get you to the normle desktop?
[13:07] <Rictoo> you dont have a default wm set
[13:07] <TimothyA> not to the gnome desktop, no
[13:08] <TimothyA> Rictoo: BECAUSE I JUST PURGED IT
[13:08] <broglin> how do i change the X session that is run when I use startx?
[13:08] <Rictoo> silly goose why would you do that
[13:08] <TimothyA> BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME TO!
[13:08] <TimothyA> GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE UBUNTU
[13:08] <FloodBot1> TimothyA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <Rictoo> loool
[13:08] <dr_willis> broglin:  you can edit the .xinitrc or .xsession
[13:08] <Rictoo> ^
[13:08] <Rictoo> TimothyA be ragin'
[13:08] <rymate1234_away> TimothyA: calm down
[13:08] <dr_willis> broglin:  i think its .xsession used these days by default
[13:09] <broglin> dr_willis: I don't have either of those files in ~/ at the moment
[13:09] <broglin> dr_willis: is there a skeleton somewhere?
[13:09] <Guest76462> my terminal disappears within a sec when tryin to open it help
[13:09] <fish_> could somebody confirm that there is no amr support in ffmpeg, not in multiverse, not in a ppa and not in medibuntu?
[13:09] <dr_willis> broglin:  its just a simple script with the commands for X to startup
[13:09] <dr_willis> broglin:  example 2 lines....
[13:09] <dr_willis> xterm &
[13:09] <fish_> looks like ffmpeg dropped the support for those old, binary libamr* codecs and uses opencore codecs now
[13:09] <dr_willis> exec icewm
[13:09] <fish_> but using them is disabled in the ubuntu packages ffmpeg
[13:09] <fish_> at least in 10.04
[13:09] <broglin> dr_willis: hm, well at the moment there's a whole load of things being run (like a gnome desktop) which I don't want
[13:09] <dr_willis> fish_:  you may need to use the ffmpeg from medibuntu
[13:10] <fish_> the opencore codecs are there, but no ffmpeg version with enabled support for them
[13:10] <fish_> dr_willis: I tried that
[13:10] <broglin> dr_willis: so i want to remove stuff before adding things in
[13:10] <dr_willis> broglin:  you decide exactly what to run by putting the right commands in .xsession
[13:10] <fish_> dr_willis: like the wiki pages says: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FFMpeg#Medibuntu
[13:10] <dr_willis> you dont just remove stuff.
[13:10] <fish_> dr_willis: but there is no ffmpeg for lucid in medibuntu
[13:10] <Guest76462> my terminal disappears within a sec when tryin to open it help
[13:11] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[13:12] <kidkdkdkdk> hi is this a problem chkrootkit excerpt report The tty of the following user process(es) were not found   in /var/run/utmp !  ! RUID          PID TTY    CMD  ! root         1646 tty7   /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -background none  ! root         3668 pts/2  /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/aptd  ! root         3869 pts/3  /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 71 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/a
[13:12] <kidkdkdkdk> neideas
[13:12] <TimothyA> so how the hell do I get a console when X has been started?
[13:13] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  alt-ctrl-f1
[13:13] <broglin> dr_willis: thanks!
[13:13] <TimothyA> dr_willis: will that render a console window, or throw me back into CLI?
[13:13] <kidkdkdkdk> what is a tty of a process and what does it mean if it cant be found
[13:14] <TimothyA> gdmsetup is throwing errors all over the place :|
[13:14] <TimothyA> related to GTK
[13:14] <Rictoo> does anyone have spare ddr3 1600mhz ram?
[13:14] <Rictoo> and will mail it to budapest? thank you.
[13:15] <Kingsy> does anyone know much about wget in here? if I have wget -i url_list | grep failed  it works.. the files download just fine.. if however i have  wget -i url_list I get connection timeout errors why?
[13:15] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  the CONSOLE is the alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 terminals
[13:15] <Sjimmie> lol, i dont think so Rictoo
[13:15] <abhijit_> how do i add aps to awn in gnome3?
[13:15] <abhijit_> in gnome 2 we were able to drap app and add it to dock. but when there is gnome shell there is no awn dock help
[13:15] <Rictoo> sjefen6, :(
[13:15] <Rictoo> Sjimmie*
[13:15] <Sjimmie> Rictoo: e-bay.com
[13:16] <Rictoo> yeah but thats not free you see
[13:16] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  from the f1 consoles. you can do 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' then 'xterm' and then alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to X and there should be a terminal window showing then
[13:16] <Sjimmie> Rictoo: what do you expect? free hardware? ubuntu == free software
[13:16] <Rictoo> hahah
[13:16] <Rictoo> im just playing, Sjimmie
[13:17] <TimothyA> dr_willis: okay...
[13:19] <TimothyA> is it possible to *reinstall* ubuntu over an existing installation without losing user accounts and files?
[13:20] <dr_willis> most likely not a good idea. How many accounts are you talking about?
[13:21] <dr_willis> if you do a 'sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop' it should install every package in a normal system
[13:21] <dr_willis> and leave the users alone.
[13:21] <dr_willis> or was the option install --reinstall  ubuntu-desktop  (i forget)
[13:21] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[13:22] <zykotick9> dr_willis, you need the ".. install --reinstall .." TimothyA
[13:22] <geirha> dr_willis: iirc  install --reinstall for apt-get,  reinstall for aptitude
[13:23] <geirha> It's a shame aptitude is no longer installed by default.
[13:24] <TimothyA> zykotick9: for?
[13:24] <dr_willis> ive seen some people have big issues with aptitude the last few weeks.. :)
[13:25] <dr_willis> ill stick with apt-get
[13:25] <TimothyA> I've already tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[13:25] <iceroot> geirha: is there a special reason for that? or why apt-get is the default?
[13:25] <TimothyA> I did a full package repair earlier this morning
[13:26] <iceroot> TimothyA: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[13:26] <Kingsy> does anyone know much about wget in here? if I have wget -i url_list | grep failed  it works.. the files download just fine.. if however i have  wget -i url_list I get connection timeout errors why?
[13:26] <zykotick9> iceroot, the decision to drop aptitude from default install makes NO sense to me personally... i can't see the logic behind that decision.
[13:26] <TimothyA> iceroot: which I already have re-installed
[13:27] <iceroot> zykotick9: i guess its because of disc space but i dont know why not removing apt-get instead
[13:27] <iceroot> zykotick9: disc = iso
[13:27] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  did you get a terminal going on the X display?  you could insgtall some minimal window manager and launch it the same way to see if we can get a working desktop.
[13:28] <zykotick9> iceroot, apt-get is unfortunately required for "some" things - sometimes you just need a big dumb stick ;)
[13:28] <geirha> iceroot: I don't know. They probably ditched aptitude to save some space. The apt-* can mostly achieve the same things as aptitude.
[13:28] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  the next relese is rumoured to  finally break the 1 cd size limition. :)
[13:28] <iceroot> !info aptitude
[13:28] <TimothyA> dr_willis: I've tried xdm
[13:28] <TimothyA> doesn't launch
[13:28] <iceroot> hm, 2.3MB
[13:28] <TimothyA> there seems to be something with GTK, I think
[13:28] <TimothyA> gdm has errors about GTK in its log
[13:28] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  i mean a window MANAGER like 'icewm' or 'fluxbox'
[13:29] <iceroot> zykotick9: yes that may be the reason
[13:29] <zykotick9> dr_willis, seems like all the ubuntu derivatives are install HUGE amounts of software in there releases, the 1 cd rule is hard to maintain
[13:29] <TimothyA> dr_willis: which one do you recommend? and how do I set them?
[13:29] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  and a silly rule. :) personally i think they chould ditch the office app. :)
[13:29] <iceroot> better to remove unity/gnome from the disc and put aptitude, gimp, vim and zsh on it :)
[13:30] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  how about a very very very tiny one.. 'jwm'  do a 'sudo apt-get install jwm'
[13:30] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[13:30] <dr_willis> jwm uses no gtk stuff. no kde stuff.. :) its about as tiny as you can get.
[13:31] <iceroot> java window manager ? :)
[13:31] <dr_willis> nothing to di with java at all..'
[13:31] <dr_willis> Joes Window Manager.
[13:31] <iceroot> of course not
[13:31] <iceroot> just making very bad jokes
[13:31] <dr_willis> I do recall seeing a java window manager years ago. :)
[13:32] <zykotick9> dr_willis, wow, jwm even makes fluxbox look huge: fluxbox installed size 4660 kB
[13:32] <iceroot> i see it every day
[13:32] <iceroot> called android
[13:32] <usr13> Yea, caught on, didn't it?
[13:32] <dr_willis> i am refering to an actual X window manager written in java.. back when that java browser was a big thing.
[13:32] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  jwm is handy :)
[13:33] <zykotick9> dr_willis, i've never seen/used it - i don't expect "much" ;)
[13:33] <Aziroshin> Hello.
[13:33] <Aziroshin> When someone installs kde (4.7) and his folder view widget is missing ,what would you say?
[13:33] <Aziroshin> (the same goes for the folder view option for desktop layouts)
[13:34] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  a start button, a apps list. and a system tray I think is all it has.. actually the system try may be optional
[13:34] <phlak_user> Aziroshin: ask in  #kubuntu ?
[13:35] <usr13> http://code.google.com/p/ewm/
[13:35] <usr13> Java based window manager ^^
[13:35] <dr_willis> usr13:  thats a new project it seems. :)
[13:35] <Aziroshin> Now, there might be a difference between a complete kubuntu install from the CD and an install from a normal ubuntu.
[13:35] <usr13> yea,  apparently...
[13:35] <dr_willis> http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/
[13:40] <zykotick9> dr_willis, jwm is retro awesomeness ;)  i'll need to install Eterm (to get esetroot to set the background picture) and i'll be transported back to '95
[13:40] <dr_willis> i think theres somthing smaller then esetroot.. :)
[13:40] <dr_willis> actually the jwm config has a way to set the root image.
[13:41] <dr_willis> i think
[13:41] <zykotick9> there's a config! ;)
[13:41] <dr_willis> if you make one yes.
[13:41] <Brand> Witam
[13:43] <TimothyA> dr_willis: jwm doesn't work either
[13:43] <zykotick9> dr_willis, [not a real issue - please don't reply] jwm is able to start seemingly most applications, BUT when i try to open "terminal" get logged out and dropped back to GDM :(..
[13:44] <deej1976> !info e17 | TimothyA
[13:46] <Rictoo> mr. saxobeat
[13:47] <TimothyA> deej1976: and how do you start it?
[13:47] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  not used it in ages.  i can try it in vnc  i guess..
[13:47] <Rictoo> god dr_gonzo you're so rude
[13:47] <Rictoo> he said please don't respond
[13:48] <Rictoo> kids these days...
[13:48] <theishi> In the host file, is it possible to configure the url 'g' to be read as 'www.google.com'?
[13:48] <theishi> If not is there a file that will allow this?
[13:48] <Rictoo> yes
[13:48] <Rictoo> yes
[13:48] <Rictoo> hosts file
[13:48] <FloodBot1> Rictoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <zykotick9> dr_willis, thanks for pointing it out - i'd certainly never tried it before.  but i'm not even going to both troubleshooting it - doubt i'd ever use it (might be good for remote connections, but fluxbox works for me in those cases)
[13:48] <usr13> TimothyA: It doesn't work?
[13:48] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  its used by many mini disrtos. and i used it in vnc for ages
[13:48] <theishi> Rictoo: who are you talking to?
[13:49] <Rictoo> you
[13:49] <theishi> ok, so how do i do this? make a line 'g  www.google.com'?
[13:49] <theishi> or actually 'www.google.com   g' i mean?
[13:49] <TimothyA> I don't know how to start it
[13:50] <TimothyA> but I can't use anything with jwm
[13:50] <TimothyA> gtk is freaking out over everything
[13:50] <theishi> Cause i tryied the last one Rictoo and it didn't work
[13:50] <guest123> hi guys, I m looking for a way to connect two ubuntu machines to create sortof lan using wifi  with these two machines assigned manual ip. Any help?
[13:50] <deej1976> TimothyA: Sorry don't know how to start it. possible need to edit .xinit .xsession
[13:50] <TimothyA> to *what*
[13:50] <TimothyA> blegh
[13:50] <TimothyA> anyway, how to reinstall the gtk runtimes?
[13:50] <zykotick9> Can URLs be used in a hosts file (thought it was IPs only)?  Re: theishi
[13:50] <TimothyA> I'm getting sick and tired of this roundabout and misleading
[13:51] <popsch> how come ubuntu has all these problems getting Internet connections on encrypted networks. I travel a lot and had problems on many occasions. The forums are also full of people reporting problems. Any idea what I can do when I encounter his problem again? (I just had it here)
[13:51] <TehDGM> guest123: that would be what's called an ad-hoc connection
[13:51] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  jwm was to be a test/simple desktop to get you a useable X desktop...
[13:51] <deej1976> TimothyA: Whats the current situation, I've jumped in late to your problem
[13:51] <dr_willis> then you could trouble shoot the rest of the system from a working desktop
[13:52] <zebulon> hey
[13:52] <zykotick9> deej1976, be aware TimothyA "might" be experiencing issue with encrypted swap and boot device.
[13:52] <TimothyA> zykotick9: nope, it was just delaying loading the driver
[13:52] <TimothyA> gtk is erroring out all over the place
[13:52] <zebulon> regarding folder /sys and /bin and users sys and bin, how are folder permissions supposed to be configured?
[13:52] <Rictoo> thank you ubuntu, i just spent 2 hours trying to debug a problem that didn't even exist
[13:53] <Rictoo> developers, please fix the gnome image viewer
[13:53] <zebulon> is it alright for the /sys /bin to be root owned?
[13:53] <Rictoo> it mucks up on high resolutions with 2gb ram where graphicmagick displays it properly
[13:53] <llutz> zebulon: root:root 755 is the default
[13:53] <sipior> zebulon: preferred, in fact :-)
[13:53] <usr13> I just installed jwm and seems to work ok for me.
[13:53] <zebulon> ok, i'm dealing with some device uuid issues
[13:53] <guest123> TehDGM, thanks for the reply.. I created a adhoc network say abc on a machine assigning it some ip address, subnet n gateway... Now when I try to connect to  this network abc using other machine, it fails!
[13:53] <zebulon> wireshark for instance, won't run any of my interfaces... says the uuid is wrong
[13:54] <zebulon> i might have chown/chmod something badly, but i can't remember, so i'm trying to fix it.
[13:54] <zykotick9> zebulon, "gksudo wireshark"
[13:54] <TimothyA> all I get with jwm is just a windows top bar. no menus or anything :|
[13:54] <TimothyA> and I'm limited to only a single console window without a means to spawn more
[13:55] <zebulon> zykotick9: same error, with sudo/gksudo/su 'getpwuid_r(); failed do to unknown user id (0)
[13:55] <zykotick9> zebulon, using su or sudo with GUI apps is a really bad idea.  Well, best of luck.
[13:55] <dr_willis> term menu item in jwm seems to fail here also.
[13:55] <zebulon> zykotick9: thanks np
[13:56] <p00r_r00t> need an expert advice on testdisk URGENT! || http://paste.debian.net/146485/
[13:56] <zykotick9> dr_willis, :|  glad i'm not alone
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[13:56] <tyler_d> zebulon: you need to add yourself to the correct group... should be the uid added to the group... not the uuid.
[13:56] <dr_willis> i made my .xsession start a gnome-terminal &  befor i did 'exec jwm'
[13:57] <dr_willis> you could always go to the console and do a 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' then 'xterm'
[13:57] <zebulon> tyler_d: yes i've seen that solution on ubuntuforums, hasnt worked for me.
[13:57] <guest123> I created a adhoc network say abc on a ubuntu machine assigning it some ip address, subnet n gateway... Now when I try to connect to  this network abc using another ubuntu machine, it fails! Am I doing something wrong
[13:57] <guest123> ?
[13:57] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  we should file a bug report. :)
[13:57] <tyler_d> zebulon: then unfortunately you are not doing it correctly I :(
[13:57] <zykotick9> dr_willis, fyi - it's upstream from you (i'm using Debian)
[13:57] <usr13> TimothyA: Sounds like you have twm not jwm
[13:57] <zebulon> ubuntu won't boot properly btw, i have to use grub recover mode and then select a normal boot, otherwise it hangs just before i can login
[13:58] <TimothyA> usr13: apt-get install jwm
[13:58] <TimothyA> I'm pretty sure that's jwm
[13:58] <zebulon> tyler_d: i'm sure i've made a mistake myself...
[13:58] <TimothyA> and not twm
[13:58] <dp> is anyone else having issues with plymouth starting xdm?
[13:58] <zebulon> tyler_d: thats for sure ;)
[13:58] <tyler_d> zebulon: that is the solution though. I assure you.
[13:58] <TimothyA> dp: YES
[13:58] <TimothyA> er, no
[13:58] <TimothyA> gdm here
[13:58] <zebulon> tyler - problem is it seems non-root processes need that solution, not root itself
[13:59] <zebulon> tyler - my problems are most visible before login, then after login certain processes can't run, like ubuntu users&groups, date&time etc
[13:59] <usr13> TimothyA: Right clicking on the desktop area doesn't bring up context menu?
[13:59] <TimothyA> no
[13:59] <alex_ole> !kubuntu
[13:59] <p00r_r00t> need an expert advice on testdisk URGENT! || http://paste.debian.net/146485/
[13:59] <TimothyA> i do get the 3 window management buttons in the top, though
[13:59] <p00r_r00t> HELP!
[13:59] <TimothyA> which isn't twm
[13:59] <zebulon> tyler - some group permission has been changed i'm sure... i just need to know if the sys/syslog/bin user-processes are the culprit, or my own shizzle root permissions
[14:00] <alex_ole> !hardy
[14:00] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  no panel at the bottom?  odd.
[14:00] <TimothyA> no panels
[14:00] <TimothyA> it's GTK mucking up, I think
[14:00] <TimothyA> does jwm use gtk?
[14:00] <dr_willis> TimothyA: to get a terminal you could always go to the console and do a 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' then 'xterm'
[14:01] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  no it does not.
[14:01] <czardoz> how can i add a "rotate image" to the right click menu in pcmanfm?
[14:01] <TimothyA> xterm will spawn a new console window, yes
[14:01] <vivid> hello, i just did a fresh install of xubuntu 11.10 and after rebooting the display manager never starts.  it just sits in a continuous loop of crashing and attempting to start.  i cannot change to a console or do anything with the machine other than hard reset........ anyone know how to fix this?
[14:01] <TimothyA> but it makes the previous one unusuable
[14:01] <TimothyA> so what's the point of that?
[14:01] <dr_willis> TimothyA:   xterm &
[14:01] <TimothyA> :|
[14:01] <theishi> Is there a better room to talk about the host file?
[14:01] <TimothyA> anyhow, for the 15th timwe: how do i REINSTALL GTK?
[14:01] <dr_willis> will make a xterminal window on teh X display.. not the console
[14:02] <zykotick9> theishi, no one answered, but I don't think URLs (www.google.com) are valid in the hosts file.
[14:02] <TimothyA> xterminal window, console, whatever you want to call it
[14:02] <theishi> vivid: can you get to the boot screen and boot into Linuxs safe mode?
[14:03] <TimothyA> I'm starting to get pissed off at ubuntu enough to just throw the damn thing out of the window altogether and remove ubuntu and install red hat on all the server
[14:03] <theishi> zykotick9: yeah i don't think so either... any idea on where i could go to find a file that could do this?
[14:03] <TimothyA> s
[14:03] <vivid> theishi, yes, but still doesnt help me figure out what to do
[14:03] <zykotick9> theishi, no idea.
[14:03] <tyler_d> TimothyA: what is your frustration if you don't mind TimothyA?
[14:03] <TimothyA> ...........
[14:04] <TimothyA> tyler_d: YOU'RE NOT BEING COOL BY USING THAT NICKNAME JUST BECAUSE YOU WATCHED A GOOD MOVIE
[14:04] <tyler_d> TimothyA: ahhh, re-install GTK?
[14:04] <sipior> TimothyA: stamping your feet and shaking your rattle is unlikely to get you closer to a solution.
[14:04] <vibhav> !caps | TimothyA
[14:04] <theishi> vivid: do any of the boot options work, can you boot into a terminal through the menu?
[14:04] <Rictoo> lol TimothyA are you ok
[14:04] <zebulon> tyler_d: do you know of a good resource for properly editing /etc/group ? i see lots of groups without added users/processes
[14:04] <Rictoo> you look a little hot temperd
[14:04] <tyler_d> TimothyA: there is no need to be mean... I'm trying to help. And yes, it is a fantastic movie
[14:04] <Rictoo> would you like a glass of water?
[14:04] <TimothyA> you asked for my frustration level, you got it :@
[14:04] <zebulon> tyler_d: its difficult getting this right without a guide
[14:04] <deej1976> !text | vivid:
[14:04] <theishi> zykotick9: ok.. thanks anyway
[14:04] <vibhav> TimothyA: If you want help , please give us the proper details ; This Channel is not for venting your grievances about ubuntu
[14:04] <tyler_d> zebulon: from term use vim
[14:04] <vivid> theishi, the recovery console works, thats it, anything with video fails in an infinite loop.  with both the default installed driver and the nvidia driver
[14:05] <TimothyA> vibhav: I've been trying to *get* the proper details
[14:05] <vivid> deej1976, thanks dude, now have that bot tell me whats wrong and how to fix it
[14:05] <theishi> vivid: I hate to ask the obvious, but what did you do :-) were you messing with anything resently?
[14:05] <zykotick9> zebulon, don't go blindly removing groups!
[14:05] <vivid> theishi, fresh install
[14:05] <Rictoo> !google | TimothyA
[14:05] <theishi> oh :-).... hmm vivid
[14:05] <Rictoo> oh shit
[14:05] <Rictoo> :D
[14:05] <TimothyA> unfortunately, google does not respond with anything useful
[14:05] <TimothyA> + I don't get the RIGHT error messages
[14:06] <TimothyA> and it isn't logging the error messages which I actually need
[14:06] <Rictoo> !google | QUIT\r\n
[14:06] <zebulon> zykotick9: i'm not removing any groups, i'm trying to place the right user processes in the right groups!
[14:06] <Rictoo> damn it.
[14:06]  * TimothyA sighs
[14:06] <usr13> TimothyA: Why don't you describe what is wrong with your system?
[14:06] <TimothyA> usr13: for the 18th time? okay
[14:06] <tyler_d> TimothyA: have you attempted to strace for more output? what output are you getting
[14:06] <vibhav> TimothyA: Yes
[14:06] <TimothyA> ubuntu boots, passes loading screen, black screen with a white mouse cursor that is usuable
[14:06] <TimothyA> and then nothing else
[14:06] <TimothyA> gdm refuses to start properly
[14:06] <theishi> vivid: i would try a second attempt at installing ... have you tried that?
[14:06] <zykotick9> zebulon, in that case you should really be using some of the "tools" to do that then.  usermod addgroup type stuff.
[14:06] <TimothyA> no idea why, because it doesn't tell me
[14:07] <TimothyA> x works as expected
[14:07] <TimothyA> jwm doesn't display the full WM set
[14:07] <tyler_d> TimothyA: From a term have you attempted to move your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart?
[14:07] <TimothyA> xwm doesn't start either
[14:07] <TimothyA> there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:07] <TimothyA> there is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[14:07] <TimothyA> just tell me how to reinstall gtk, because none of the applications that rely on gtk actually work
[14:08] <theishi> vivid: if that doesn't work... or if you already tried it... i would boot to a terminal and try to run startx.... and see what happens
[14:08] <tyler_d> TimothyA: what does Xorg.0.log tell you about any errors / problems
[14:08] <TimothyA> nothing
[14:08] <zebulon> zykotick9: i'm merely checking the file with cat /etc/group am using adduser, i'm not nano-ing into /etc/group...
[14:08] <usr13> TimothyA: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:09] <usr13> and send resulting URL
[14:09] <tyler_d> TimothyA: I would at this point drop to term and start a `tail -f /var/log/*` then restart the x session; noting any errors that may occur
[14:09] <Chees_BHW> can anyone help me locate the mail.log ?
[14:09] <TimothyA> tyler_d: which i've done for the past 18 times...
[14:09] <TimothyA> usr13: okay, how do I select everything and copy it?
[14:09] <tyler_d> TimothyA: Great, can you please pastebin teh output by teeing it to a file for me?
[14:10] <TimothyA> tyler_d: okay, how do I select everything and copy it?
[14:10] <Rictoo> pastebinit is a command-line app, TimothyA
[14:10] <tyler_d> Chees_BHW: updatedb ; locate mail.log
[14:10] <Rictoo> it takes a text file as an argument
[14:10] <llutz> Chees_BHW: /var/log/mail.log
[14:10] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install for 11.04, can I just disable cron or will all kinds of bad stuff happen?
[14:10] <Chees_BHW> llutz its not there - i tried that 1st
[14:10] <TimothyA> http://paste.debian.net/146485/
[14:10] <vibhav> TimothyA: Did you try a reinstall
[14:11] <llutz> Chees_BHW: check your mta-config, where it logs to
[14:11] <tyler_d> TimothyA: from the term do, `tail -f /var/log/* | tee ~/log.output` then you can simply pop open that file after restarting X and copy the appropriate content please
[14:11] <zebulon> ech, i've done some damage lol
[14:11] <Rictoo> TimothyA, that's the wrong paste.
[14:11] <TimothyA> .... he asked for xorg.0.log
[14:11] <Rictoo> im seeing a testdisk report :S
[14:11] <czardoz> how can i rotate all images in a folder by 90 degrees clockwise?
[14:12] <llutz> czardoz: convert -rotate ...
[14:12] <usr13> TimothyA: Just issue the command:   pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:12] <TimothyA> usr13: ....
[14:12] <TimothyA> that's what I did
[14:12] <czardoz> llutz: ok, thanks
[14:12] <TimothyA> FFS
[14:12] <Rictoo> TimothyA, no
[14:12] <Rictoo> you pasted a previous paste
[14:12] <TimothyA> ...
[14:12] <TimothyA> WTF
[14:12] <Rictoo> that someone else did 20 minutes ago
[14:12] <TimothyA> pastebinit is broken then
[14:12] <Rictoo> calm down
[14:12] <vibhav> !language | TimothyA
[14:13] <deej1976> !info nautilus-image-manipulator | czardoz:
[14:13] <TimothyA> http://paste.debian.net/745142/
[14:13] <TimothyA> ...
[14:13] <usr13> TimothyA: lsb_release -a |pastebinit
[14:13] <TimothyA> how the hell did it put debian there
[14:14] <TimothyA> No LSB modules are available
[14:14] <vivid> theishi, works fine if i run startx, clearly lightdm is the problem
[14:14] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745143/
[14:14]  * TimothyA is going to replace debian with ubuntu from now on in the links
[14:14] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.net/745142/
[14:15] <Rictoo> there we go, inally
[14:15] <zebulon> one last question: should the user-processes be owners of their associated locations? for instance postgres:x:1000:1000::/home/postgres:/bin/s
[14:15] <zebulon> +h
[14:15] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745142/ eurgh
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: is that the real postgres-user?
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: the one from the daemon
[14:16] <zebulon> iceroot: as real as ever...
[14:16] <zebulon> iceroot: should be
[14:16] <usr13> TimothyA: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:16] <zebulon> although postgres fails on boot
[14:16] <iceroot> zebulon: why does the real postgress-user have a login-shell and the uid 1000
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: no idea, i didn't put it there
[14:17] <TimothyA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/745147/
[14:17] <iceroot> zebulon: what is your primary ubuntu-user called?
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: guess what
[14:17] <Rico_> hallo
[14:17] <zebulon> iceroot: r00t
[14:17] <zebulon> without the 0s then
[14:17] <iceroot> zebulon: can you paste the output of "getent passwd" please
[14:17] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[14:18] <zebulon> iceroot: in channel?!
[14:18] <iceroot> !paste | zebulon
[14:19] <iceroot> zebulon: there are "just" usernames in that output, no passwords
[14:19] <usr13> TimothyA: For some strange reason you have a mixture of lucid and natty repos How did that happen?
[14:19] <TimothyA> usr13: I don't know. I installed this from DVD
[14:20] <TimothyA> and I haven't altered it except for nginx
[14:20] <zebulon> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745150/
[14:20] <iceroot> usr13: there are other users today with strange sources.list-files too
[14:20] <TimothyA> and I never did a repos upgrade
[14:20] <usr13> Can someone else look at this and see if they can tell what is going on?:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/745147/
[14:20] <zebulon> iceroot: i'd appreciate any advice you can give
[14:20] <TimothyA> *version upgrade
[14:21] <usr13> iceroot: Really?  Did you guys come to any conclusion about it?
[14:21] <iceroot> usr13: i just thought they do strange things on there system
[14:21] <vibhav> usr13: You pasted your sources list
[14:21] <usr13> vibhav: No, that was TimothyA's
[14:21] <iceroot> zebulon: is that a default ubuntu-installation?
[14:22] <zebulon> iceroot: does it have to be?
[14:22] <iceroot> zebulon: with that passwd something went wrong
[14:22] <Chees_BHW> llutz can I pm you ?
[14:22] <zebulon> iceroot: well something is wrong, what went wrong?
[14:22] <TimothyA> usr13: also, I've added those with the ppa command
[14:22] <iceroot> zebulon: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[14:22] <Andrew_Lee> g
[14:22] <iceroot> usr13: but i still think its not a bug just special user-foo
[14:23] <TimothyA> for nginx
[14:23] <zebulon> yay backtrack 5 R1 aka ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx... no support?
[14:23] <TimothyA> http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Ubuntu_PPA
[14:23] <iceroot> zebulon: ah great
[14:23] <iceroot> zebulon: its not ubuntu and so out of support here :)
[14:23] <zebulon> noooo
[14:23] <iceroot> !backtrack | zebulon
[14:23] <zebulon> i know,, i know...
[14:23] <rootux> after i setup my ubuntu 10.10 system to ubuntu 11.04 my connection to the internet per wlan was cutted. What can i do to establish the connection?
[14:24] <zebulon> c'mon just tell me about the proper rights, the issues are all ubuntu kernel related...
[14:24] <iceroot> zebulon: i you know that please dont ask backtrack questions here, we can not support it
[14:24] <vibhav> rootux: Please give some more details
[14:24] <zebulon> of course you can...
[14:24] <zebulon> but its ok
[14:24] <vibhav> zebulon: No we can't , It is the channels policy
[14:24] <iceroot> zebulon: the first issue is a wrong uid order in /etc/passwd about the postgres user
[14:25] <iceroot> zebulon: i can not support backtrack because i dont know backtrack and when i have a look at the passwd there is a difference to ubuntu-installations
[14:25] <iceroot> zebulon: because of that i cant give support
[14:25] <matrix3000> hey guys, how would i fix gui to ask for current user isntead of "administrator" login when current user has sudo
[14:25] <zebulon> iceroot: i understand, the uid's are the problem at the moment, with gnome-system-tools and similar installations, but this is a user issue i've created.
[14:25] <TimothyA> okay, so I deem this problem to be unsolvable, and henceforth declare ubuntu to not be desktop-friendly at all
[14:26]  * TimothyA goes back to windows for development
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: i dont know if the uid is the problem but because of it is not ubuntu, please join the backtrack channel
[14:26] <berefeira> just updated system, now window resizing for terminal is fubar'd, awesome!
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: and ask them why the default user at installation does not have uid 1000
[14:26] <iceroot> zebulon: and why the postgresuser have a loginshell and so on
[14:26] <usr13> TimothyA: If you notice, it says "Official Debian/Ubuntu packages" and then "Ubuntu 10.04:"
[14:26] <llutz> iceroot: backtracks default user is root...
[14:26] <zebulon> iceroot: thanks :]
[14:26] <TimothyA> usr13: turns out, GTK was the problem
[14:27] <TimothyA> I finally managed to reinstall it, with no thanks to you guys
[14:27] <iceroot> llutz: as i said, i dont know backtrack and because of that i can not support it
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: i'll give there forums a shot, i believe #backtrac here doesn't provide support or i'm auto-banned for another reason, never been in that channel
[14:27] <TimothyA> seriously
[14:27] <iceroot> zebulon: #backtrack-linux
[14:27] <usr13> TimothyA: But what about the instructions you followed at:  http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Ubuntu_PPA  ?
[14:27] <TimothyA> JUST...
[14:27] <sipior> TimothyA: go away.
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: one last question about the uid then... haldaemon:x:113:122:Hardware abstraction layer,,,:/var/run/hald:/bin/false
[14:27] <zebulon> iceroot: what are those 3 commas after the name?
[14:28] <usr13> TimothyA: You need to repair what you messed up there.  OK?
[14:28] <stuk_gen> hi all, i use ubuntu 11.04 with classic gnome. I put a link near the menu bar, near the clock. Now i want delete this but i don't know how can i do this. What is the method?
[14:28] <llutz> zebulon: stop offtopic stuff here now pls. if you're 1337 enough to use and break a pentesting distro which isn't meant to be used on regular base, you'll find help somewhere. just not here
[14:28] <TimothyA> usr13: ... can you count for me how often I asked on how to reinstall gtk, and how often it got answered?
[14:28] <TimothyA> and yes, I've tried to google for it, without any results showing up
[14:28] <TimothyA> I had to do it by sheer luck of hitting the right package name to reinstall
[14:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: man 5 passwd
[14:28] <iceroot> zykotick9: wrong nick
[14:28] <iceroot> ...
[14:28] <usr13> TimothyA: So what did you do?
[14:29] <TimothyA> ...
[14:29]  * TimothyA is about to explode
[14:29] <sipior> TimothyA: please do.
[14:29] <TimothyA> usr13: I reinstalled gtk, that's what I did
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, when i start the browser for example it says "there can't establish a conection to the server>"
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, but if i connet the pc with the router it says the connection to the router is established
[14:29] <rootux> vibhav, i got a broadcom network driver
[14:29] <usr13> TimothyA: Look, we are trying to help you here.  Do you want help or not?
[14:29]  * TimothyA bangs his head on the desk
[14:29] <iceroot> TimothyA: are you really flaming people here which give you free support in there free time about not saying what you want?
[14:30] <iceroot> TimothyA: if so, please type /wc
[14:30] <jpmh> I am running unity - I am starting to like it.  I use putty to connect to a number of machines,  it is in the bar on the left (Good), I click on it and putty opens (good), But if it is already open, how do I start another copy?
[14:30] <TimothyA> iceroot: no, I asked several times, in a row, without being answered about reinstalling gtk. yet everyone seemed eager to tell me to purge/remove/reinstall everything *but* GTK
[14:30] <iceroot> TimothyA: if not, be kind to the people here, we are all doing our best in our free time
[14:30] <TimothyA> even after I said multiple times that GTK was throwing errors it shouldn't be throwing
[14:31] <TimothyA> I'm just really frustrated at the moment, that's all
[14:31] <iceroot> TimothyA: not my problem
[14:31] <TimothyA> fine, then anyone who searches the logs will know to reinstall gtk instead of everything else
[14:31] <rootux> how can i find out the name of my network card?
[14:31] <usr13> TimothyA: Ok, well you fixed it. Let's move on.
[14:31] <deej1976> jpmh: Should be able to right click and start a new putty
[14:31] <llutz> rootux: lspci
[14:32] <craven> What's the best way to get my Personal Hotspot working on ubuntu 11.04? Don't have a wifi card so it would need to be the USB drivers.
[14:32] <rootux> thx
[14:32] <iceroot> craven: ?
[14:32] <dr_willis> Personal Hotspot is what exactly?
[14:32] <iceroot> craven: you dont have a wifi-card?
[14:32] <craven> iceroot: dr_willis: iPhone tethering
[14:32] <jpmh> deej1976:  no - that's the rub - when I right click it bnrings me back to the one that is already open if there is one
[14:32] <usr13> TimothyA: On another issue, you need to repair your soruces.list file.
[14:33] <craven> iceroot: nope, I have a external wifi dongle but couldn't get the linux drivers for it to work
[14:33] <sattu94> I believe it's called USB tethering, a hotspot is exclusively wi-fi, right ?
[14:33] <dr_willis> a external wifi dongle... is a wireless card. :) its just a usb one..
[14:33] <iceroot> craven: a linux-driver for the iphone as wifi-adapter?
[14:33] <deej1976> jpmh: Just install putty
[14:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:33] <deej1976> jpmh: Just installing putty myself
[14:33] <craven> sattu94: the full thing is called 'Personal Hotspot' on the phone
[14:33] <TimothyA> great, now dbus is malfunctioning
[14:33] <CharminTheMoose> On a default ubuntu install for 11.04, can I just disable cron or will all kinds of bad stuff happen?
[14:34] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: not a good idea to disable cron
[14:34] <craven> iceroot: no a ubuntu driver for the iphone as a usb dongle (it shows up as a ethernet connection on winxp)
[14:34] <jpmh> deej1976: what do you mean - I have putty installed - that's why I can open it from there
[14:34] <craven> I found this tutorial http://www.marvinlemos.net/?p=321 but will I be able to install repositorys without a internet connection?
[14:34] <deej1976> jpmh: I've installed putty to have a look
[14:34] <iceroot> craven: hm sorry dont know, i (luckily) dont have stuff from apple
[14:34] <CharminTheMoose> iceroot, why not? What stuff does cron manage?
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: e.g. logrotate
[14:35] <sattu94> craven: yes you need the internet, to get stuff from the repositories.
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: and everything you will find with this command /cat /etc/cron.*
[14:35] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: what is the reason you want to disable cron?
[14:35] <craven> sattu94: I have the internet on my xp partition (the one I'm on atm) anyway I could download them to my external hard drive and run them off that?
[14:36] <bo_root> i just installed latest ubuntu on my mothers laptop and now i cant enable wireless, switch is not responding and its shut down, any hints?
[14:36] <iceroot> craven: you can to that with deb-files, yes
[14:36] <jpmh> in unity I now have in the launcher a tab for Update Manager, there is a number 32 in it,  when I click on it nothing happens - why not
[14:36] <sattu94> craven: but you dont get deb files from repos.
[14:36] <placki4ever> bo_root: Open the Terminal and run "lspci" so we can know what wireless card you have
[14:36] <rootux> after i set up my system to ubuntu 11.04 (my network controller is: Broadcom Corpartion BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wirless LAN Controller) I only can etablish a wirless connection to the router, but if i start a browser it says connection to the sever can't be establish. What can I do ?
[14:37] <CharminTheMoose> iceroot, I don't personally have a need to run it anyway, like, I could run any of the commands I care about on an as-needed basis.
[14:37] <bo_root> placki4ever: BCM43225
[14:37] <CharminTheMoose> Logrotate I could run when I needed to, like.
[14:37] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: that is not a good reason to disable cron
[14:37] <topriddy> hope this is valid: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gillesg/ppa
[14:37] <iceroot> CharminTheMoose: have a look at cat /etc/cron.daily/*  some of that sounds important
[14:37] <placki4ever> bo_root and rootux: If you don't find any other solution, you can try using ndiswrapper to install the windows driver
[14:38] <iceroot> TimothyA: sounds correct
[14:38] <craven> sattu94: iceroot: I think I've found the deb-files here (https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa) not sure which 'ipheth' to download as there are several
[14:38] <usr13> TimothyA: YOU are malfunctioning.  I would say that the first thing you need to do is edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the last 6 lines.
[14:38] <TimothyA> usr13: ... it doesn't even LOAD anything from those repositories except for nginx
[14:38] <iceroot> craven: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[14:39] <topriddy> how do i tell apt-get to prefer 32bit files when on a 64 bit linux system?
[14:39] <usr13> TimothyA: Ok well you seem to know more about this than me.  Sorry.  I'll move on.
[14:39] <iceroot> topriddy: why?
[14:39] <craven> iceroot: don't have access to that atm as I'm on a different partition. I assume the version I'm supposed to download is derived from my ethernet card?
[14:39] <bo_root> placki4ever: i am using ndiswrapper on FreeBSD, but to use it on ubuntu, i mean, i heard that on ubuntu works almost everything out of the box :)
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> topriddy  you need ia-lib something
[14:40] <iceroot> craven: no just the ubuntu-version is important. 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 or something like that
[14:40] <placki4ever> bo_root: yes, "almost", broadcom wireless seems to be one of those things who don't
[14:40] <sattu94> craven: and your CPU arch, ubuntu version
[14:40] <topriddy> iceroot: some stuff in the repos i added doesnt find amd64 indexes and is messing up my installations
[14:40] <craven> iceroot: I'm on 11.04
[14:40] <topriddy> iceroot: i am following instructions here: http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/wiki/DebianInstall
[14:40] <jjg> hi all .. i created an ubuntu server that I now need a GUI on .. is there a simple apt-get command to install a GUI?
[14:40] <iceroot> topriddy: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and cat /etc/issue
[14:40] <deej1976> jpmh: Just looking at adding a quicklist to the icon
[14:40] <iceroot> !paste | topriddy
[14:41] <sattu94> jjg: depends on what "GUI" you want, there are multiple "GUI"s
[14:41] <iceroot> craven: then you need the debfile for natty
[14:41] <jjg> sattu94: what's the default GUI or most commonly used GUI?
[14:41] <sattu94> craven: make sure you get the correct srchitacture.
[14:41] <rootux> can i install nidswarpper by : sudo apt-get install nidswarpper  ?
[14:41] <sattu94> jjg: gnome, kde
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> rootux  you mean ndiswrapper
[14:42] <jjg> ok .. gnome is what I'm used to.
[14:42] <jjg> apt-get install gnome?
[14:42] <sattu94> jjg: gnome comes with ubuntu, kde comes with kubuntu
[14:42] <placki4ever> rootux: you can get its gui by sudo apt-get install ndis-gtk - this should also give ndiswrapper's cli
[14:42] <jjg> sattu94: got it, tx
[14:42] <craven> iceroot: sattu94: Thanks, found a general one (I think) and will try the natty one if that fails.
[14:42] <sattu94> jjg: you might need other packages too
[14:42] <synapse> I am running 2.6.32-35-generic #78, if I do a git clone of git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git, is it possible for me to use my existing /boot/config-2.6.32-35-generic as the .config when rebuilding?  I want to ensure everything is exactly the same except a hack I've made
[14:42] <iceroot> craven: great
[14:42] <jjg> sattu94: will apt-get not resolve the dependencies for me?
[14:42] <rootux> thanks a lot :_)
[14:42] <iceroot> synapse: yes the config should match because its the ubuntu-config
[14:43] <sattu94> jjg: it will, but gnome will probably be bare bones GUI,
[14:43] <iceroot> jjg: it will
[14:43] <iceroot> jjg: what you want? install gnome3?
[14:43] <sattu94> jjg: ig you need a fully functional desktop like ubuntu desktop, you might want to get the package "ubuntu-desktop"...
[14:43] <synapse> iceroot: do I need to do a make menuconfig if I use the config from /boot ?
[14:43] <JHH> Can someone private chat with me about ubuntu software centre
[14:43] <iceroot> synapse: sorry dont know
[14:43] <jjg> sattu94: ok thanks
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: just ask your detailed question here
[14:44] <jjg> iceroot: yah, i think so
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: sorry wrong nick
[14:44] <iceroot> JHH: just ask your detailed question here
[14:44] <synapse> it seems like everytime I have compiled a kenel, half of my stuff quits working
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: you are using ubuntu 11.10?
[14:44] <jjg> how to tell?
[14:44] <jjg> iceroot: I think so
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <jjg> 11.10
[14:44] <topriddy> iceroot: please, why wont this work for me? The APT repository part :( http://code.google.com/p/v4l4j/wiki/DebianInstall
[14:44] <tjader> Hi. When I insert a SD disk or USB drive and try to open it via the unity launcher it tries to open the folder with the archive manager. How can I fix that?
[14:44] <iceroot> jjg: you are using unity at the moment?
[14:45] <jjg> iceroot: it's a server install in a VM
[14:45] <iceroot> topriddy: Starting with version 0.8.8, the Debian packages only support Lucid and subsequent releases. You have two options:
[14:45] <JHH> I cannot instal anything on software center, it says to check my internet connection. The internet conectgion is fine but it will not install. this has happened with lots of different apps i've tried to install
[14:45] <jjg> iceroot: I think I will create another VM with a GUI instead of downloading the packages .. it is 1.4 GB
[14:45] <sattu94> jjg: if you need something lightweight lxde,xfce might do your job..
[14:45] <jjg> sattu94: ok thanks
[14:45] <iceroot> jjg: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will bring you gnome3 + unity
[14:46] <iceroot> jjg: but i dont think you need that on a server
[14:46] <rootux> placki4ever, sorry I tried sudo apt-get install ndis-gtk   --   but it printed: packet can't be found...
[14:46] <Jonii> anyone know why these four things seem to have nothing to do with each other: 1) layout used for typing stuff, 2) layout used for ctrl-<key> type of shortcuts, 3) layout displayed next to the login screen or on top info applet thingie, and 4) layout shown when you click that info applet and select "show layout"
I cannot instal anything on software center, it says to check my internet connection. The internet conectgion is fine but it will not install. this has happened with lots of different apps i've tried to install
[14:46] <jjg> iceroot: if I do a default desktop install, does that include gnome3 + unity
[14:46] <iceroot> JHH: can you ping google.com?
[14:46] <sattu94> jjg: yes, if you have 11.10+..
[14:46] <placki4ever> rootux: hmm... I forgot if it's in the repos or not... Anyway it *should* be on the CD
[14:46] <jjg> iceroot: I don't .. but after I installed I realized I want to keep multiple terminals open in my VM so I need X
[14:46] <iceroot> jjg: yes
[14:46] <Jonii> I've used two systems, and both 10.4 and 11.10, and the problem persist, so I think I can say that this is simply a bug in ubuntu
[14:47] <iceroot> jjg: yes but needing x is different to install complete gnome3 with ubuntu-stuff
[14:47] <jjg> iceroot: tx
[14:47] <iceroot> jjg: you can use ssh to connect to your vm or you can install x
[14:47] <sattu94> jjg: and if u need multiple terminals, try byobu, or screen , or ctrl+alt+F(num)
[14:47] <sattu94> jjg: on a server.
[14:47] <jjg> iceroot: yep .. thanks
[14:48] <jjg> sattu94: thanks
 ping? sorry I'm a noob
[14:48] <jjg> creating a new VM now
[14:48] <iceroot> JHH: no problem. can you e.g. browse the internet with firefox?
[14:48] <iceroot> JHH: lets use this chat instead
 yes i can
[14:49] <iceroot> JHH: you know how to open a terminal?
 yep
[14:49] <topriddy> iceroot: you said i have two options?? I am waiting please.
[14:49] <iceroot> topriddy: read the link you gave me
[14:49] <iceroot> topriddy: i just copied the text from there
[14:50] <iceroot> JHH: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get update"
[14:50] <iceroot> !paste | JHH
[14:50] <deej1976> jpmh: Sorry, I can't get the infomation for a quicklist right
[14:50] <Pilif12p> my CD drive doesn't seem to work.
[14:51] <iceroot> !work | Pilif12p
[14:51] <luist> hey guys… im trying to update the loading logo inside a chroot (to make a ISO), but it seems that im having problems with some partitions… anyone help? http://pastie.org/2884835
[14:51] <deej1976> jpmh: Why not just use a terminal and ssh
[14:51] <topriddy> iceroot: i dont understand the *Lucid and subsequent releases part* I am on Ubuntu 11.10. I have tried manual installation too and it fails. i am grabbing on straws now. :(
[14:52] <iceroot> topriddy: lucid is ubuntu 10.04
[14:52] <iceroot> topriddy: the page wants to tell you that you must enable a ppa for versions higher then 10.04
[14:52] <Pilif12p> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1386788
[14:52] <jpmh> deej1976: putty is MUCH better that ssh - right now what I am doing to make the second instance is: terminal and then invoking putty there - horrible kludge
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> luist  according to fstab, it seems you mounted / to some non-recognized device
[14:52] <placki4ever> luist: maybe there's no partition set as "/" in /etc/fstab or it's set incorrectly?
[14:53] <iceroot> topriddy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gillesg/ppa && sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get install libv4l4j-java
[14:53] <jpmh> deej1976: and more to the point - what if I want to do this with other things - does unity stop me
[14:53] <luist> MonkeyDust: placki4ever: its a chroot and tutorial only told me to mount /sys and /rpoc
[14:53] <iceroot> luist: sounds likes / is encrpyted?
  okay pasted there
[14:53] <iceroot> JHH: i need the link to view it
[14:53] <deej1976> jpmh: Look at running a terminal with a screen session, Then you can have 9 easy accessible ssh sessions in one terminal
[14:53] <luist> iceroot: ?
[14:54] <luist> iceroot: ^
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/745168/
[14:54] <iceroot> jpmh: if you say putty is better i think you like beer :) ? have a look at "screen"
[14:54] <topriddy> iceroot: i did all that before. on runing of second command i get a 404 Not Found error on /binary-amd64/Packages
[14:54] <placki4ever> luist: Well, looks like the system is telling you to mount something as "/" now,  see if that helps
[14:55] <topriddy> iceroot: then i decided to try the sane/sane.d/jsane option. met headaches with that too. :(
[14:55] <iceroot> JHH: hm everything is fine and the package-files are transfered succesfully
[14:55] <deej1976> Pilif12p: Have you tried adding -o loop
[14:55] <luist> placki4ever: what should i mount as "/" ?
[14:55] <iceroot> topriddy: then the ppa is not providing stuff for ubuntu 11.10
[14:55] <iceroot> topriddy: contact the ppa maintainer /wiki author and ask if there is a ppa for 11.10
[14:55] <JHH> so why wont it let me install?
 so why wont it let me install?
[14:56] <iceroot> JHH: you said there was an error about fetching an amd64 package file
[14:56] <tarvid> any point in debugging 11.10 failure to automount DVDs on a Dimension 8300?
[14:56] <iceroot> tarvid: dmesg
[14:57] <tarvid> empty when I insert a DVD
[14:57] <iceroot> JHH: ah sorry you said that software-center cant connect to the internet
[14:57] <tarvid> it is a regression and used to work
[14:57] <sebastian__> hola
[14:57] <iceroot> JHH: what software you want to install?
[14:57] <placki4ever> luist: the main partition, the one holding everything else mounted, the one keeping the system files, but it seems to be weird that you can edit "/etc/fstab" and access other files when "/" is not specifed...
[14:57] <tarvid> new kernel today did not fix
[14:57] <jayar> can anyone reccomend a decent alternative to cpanel for ubuntu server?
 okay its workign now it looks like. I'm trying to intall drivers for a printer
[14:58] <iceroot> JHH: ah ok, good to hear
[14:59] <tarvid> manual mount fails - no mediusm in drive
[14:59] <topriddy> iceroot: thanks 'friend', i appreciate all the help/support.
[14:59] <jpmh> iceroot: what screen?  anyway = the issue is more generic - lets assume I want to launch a second copy of anything
[14:59] <tarvid> obviously a kernel bug
[14:59] <iceroot> jpmh: open a terminal and type "screen"
[14:59] <iceroot> jpmh: also see "man screen"
[15:00] <iceroot> jpmh: when inside the screen session you can use "ctrl + a +c" to open a new screen/tab, switch them with "ctrl + a + n"
[15:00] <topriddy> iceroot: i wonder why the manual installation sucks though. I keep going in circles of dependency management. would wish all other deps were transparently just installed.
[15:00] <iceroot> jpmh: screen will also hold the session open, even when you close the ssh connection
[15:00] <iceroot> topriddy: not when the versions are not matching
[15:01] <iceroot> topriddy: then you dont want an automaticly installation
[15:01] <topriddy> do we reckon one can just read stufff directly from vide
[15:01] <topriddy> do we reckon one can just read stufff directly from /dev/video* stream directly
[15:01] <iceroot> jpmh: there is nothing more powerfull then screen + ssh (vim of course but that is another topic)
[15:02] <domnic> hi
[15:03] <placki4ever> hello
[15:05] <edbian> placki4ever: hi
[15:05] <mika213> Hi
[15:05] <edbian> placki4ever: quiet in here today...
[15:06] <mika213> i need help
[15:06] <deej1976> !ask | mika213
[15:07] <inzi> hey everyone
[15:07] <placki4ever> hey there
[15:07] <inzi> Does anyone have a fix for the brightness issue, on ubuntu 11.10, i' hve to keep adjusting the brightness everytime i restart!
[15:07] <inzi> Hey placki4ever
[15:09] <inzi> hey @placki4ever how are u?
[15:09] <inzi> Does anyone have a fix for the brightness issue, on ubuntu 11.10, i' hve to keep adjusting the brightness everytime i restart!
[15:09] <deej1976> !patience | inzi
[15:09] <placki4ever> inzi: Fine, thanks! Trying to look up for an answer for ya, or at least a workaround
[15:10] <inzi> ahhh thankx ..
[15:10] <jpmh> iceroot: looking at screen - ty
[15:10] <inzi> oops sorry deej.. im quite new to the irc client.
[15:10] <inzi> placki4ever : are u on ubuntu 11.10?
[15:11] <inzi> placki4ever: unity or gnome shell?
[15:11] <placki4ever> inzi: ubuntu 11.10, unity
[15:12] <inzi> placki4ever: oh yeah.. im experiencing this issue when i safely remove my external hdd.. entire system hangs.
[15:12] <shane_> Hi guys
[15:12] <inzi> shane : Hey shane!
[15:13] <synapse> I have an intel processor(uname -a shows x86_64), do I want to use the amd64 kernel ARCH config?
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: yep
[15:13] <shane_> I am having a problem getting my ralink device working - it works in 11.10 however not in 10.10
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: do you have more than 3.2 Gb of ram?
[15:13] <synapse> 4gb
[15:13] <inzi> synapse : then x64 it is
[15:13] <edbian> synapse: yep, use 64 bit OS.  If you don't you will only be able to use 3.2 Gb of ram
[15:13] <azertyii> hi
[15:14] <shane_> The device is Edimax EW-7718Un, I have tried multiple online documents to no avail.
[15:14] <azertyii> anyone there ?
[15:14] <edbian> no
[15:14] <inzi> hey azertyii
[15:14] <azertyii> what this one ^ mean on ubuntu ?
[15:14] <placki4ever> inzi: Sorry, but it looks like I cannot find a solution for you
[15:15] <inzi> placki4ever.:  thnx dude. seems like we'll have to wait for it to get fixd hopefully soon..do u use ubuntu on a laptop or desktop
[15:15] <placki4ever> inzi: laptop
[15:15] <inzi> placki4ever: u dont have that issue?
[15:15] <placki4ever> inzi: a workaround to this would be to set a startup script that changes the brightness to the desired level
[15:16] <placki4ever> inzi: No, I don't have this issue
[15:16] <inzi> placki4ever : hmmm yah..i figured that would be the only solution...
[15:17] <inzi> placki4ever : so far its the only problem im having with 11.10.. everything else seems to be just peachy :)
[15:17] <azertyii> this one ^ mean  ?
[15:17] <inzi> azertyii : sorry no idea
[15:17] <odb|fidel> azertyii: try to rephrase your question
[15:18] <azertyii> ok
[15:18] <azertyii> i can see in most case in command line ppl are used to use this sign ^,  i don't know what's for ?
[15:20] <rootux> how can install such a packet in terminal: ndiswrapper-1.57rc1.tar.gz
[15:20] <topriddy> seems everything i try to install have unmet dependencies. *sigh*
[15:20] <odb|fidel> azertyii: show us an example
[15:21] <topriddy> something as simple as sudo apt-get install build-essential doesnt work for me
[15:21] <placki4ever> rootux: It will be easier for you to download a .deb file instead
[15:21] <deej1976> topriddy| pastebinit output
[15:21] <odb|fidel> topriddy: paste the result/output somewhere
[15:22] <inzi> rootux:  isnt the ndiswrapper in the softwarecenter?
[15:22] <m3talh3ad1> i want a good tutorial about the ice service. can't find anything
[15:22] <Pici> m3talh3ad1: What is the 'ice service'?
[15:22] <domnic> inzi, slacker
[15:22] <topriddy> deej1976: i dont have (cant find pidgin) irc client on my Ubuntu 11
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> how can i locate rsyslog.conf ?
[15:23] <odb|fidel> Chees_BHW: i.e. using find/locate in cli
[15:23] <m3talh3ad1> Pici: i can't describe it better. i saw it in the mumble tutorial
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> i tried - its not working, odb|fidel
[15:23] <deej1976> topriddy: sudo apt-get pastebinit ? returns error
[15:23] <odb|fidel> Chees_BHW: for sure find/locate do work
[15:23] <Chees_BHW> i mean it doesnt find it
[15:23] <llutz> Chees_BHW: /etc/rsyslog.conf (or rsyslog.d/*)
[15:24] <Pici> m3talh3ad1: If its mumble specific, maybe the folks in #mumble have a better idea?
[15:24] <Chees_BHW> llutz its not in /etc .. thats why Im confused
[15:24] <m3talh3ad1> yeah maybe
[15:24] <llutz> Chees_BHW: apt-cache policy rsyslog |grep -i iinsta
[15:24] <inzi> domnic : wah
[15:25] <AkhlD> is there anyway to fix this proxy bug?
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> llutz can i pl u ?
[15:25] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> pm*
[15:25] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 odb|fidel
[15:25] <llutz> Chees_BHW: nope, keep it in the channel
[15:25] <azertyii> this is just only an exemple
[15:25] <AkhlD> i have installed tor proxy and its working, but i cant configure it with chrome
[15:25] <Chees_BHW> llutz in /etc there is rsyslog.d and inside there's only postfix.conf - i can give a pastebin
[15:26] <Pici> azertyii: its part of the regex syntax.  Its not really in the scope of this channel, but outside the brackets it means to match the beginning of the line, inside the brackets it is a negation.
[15:26] <deej1976> azertyii : ^Y means Ctrl-Y, http://www.answers.com/topic/caret
[15:26] <placki4ever> rootux: I told you to install ndis-gtk using apt-get before... Sorry, it's "ndisgtk" ( no "-"). Try it again with the correct name, please
[15:26] <odb|fidel> azertyii: the sign in general is calleD: circumflex
[15:26] <llutz> Chees_BHW: there should also be the rsyslog.conf
[15:26] <domnic> inz, he will learn to compile for its need he's already there...will take some time to do it
[15:26] <odb|fidel> it should negate an expression afaik
[15:27] <Chees_BHW> llutz there isnt :S
[15:27] <topriddy> how is Ubuntu support for sane? am considering that now.
[15:27] <topriddy> sane + jsane.
[15:27] <inzi> domnic : ooo ok.. im a noob to ubuntu myself.. hvnt really had time to learn the inner workings :(
[15:27] <topriddy> so far i keep hitting errors in that too. Should we just say linux isnt to good for peripheral devices?
[15:28] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 odb|fidel
[15:28] <Chees_BHW> llutz in rsyslod.d there is 1 file - postfix.conf and there's the content of it http://pastebin.com/wM94jhgu
[15:28] <Pici> azertyii: Was there something wrong with my answer?
[15:28] <azertyii> grep "^[bB]" fic4 ok so if i understand well this command is
[15:28] <llutz> Chees_BHW: why did you remove it? ;)    get a default rsyslog.conf from someone using the same distro-version as you
[15:28] <mquasar> hi all, I want to execute a python script when I log in, but haven't found the right place to do that
[15:29] <Chees_BHW> llutz lol i didnt. maybe my hosting modified the ubuntu LAMP ..
[15:29] <mquasar> tried .bash_profile, .bash_login
[15:29] <azertyii> equal to	grep "^[bB]" fic4     =    grep "[bB]" fic4
[15:29] <dp> where does ubuntu keep the dm to start (gdm/kdm/xdm/etc) ?
[15:29] <mquasar> and .bashrc
[15:29] <azertyii> correct ?
[15:29] <inzi> alright guys.. thanks for all ur help
[15:29] <inzi> cheerio n gudnight!
[15:30] <Chees_BHW> llutz my default user in ubuntu LAMP 10.4 is root  so i dont sudo - is that normal or my hosting provider modified something ?
[15:30] <azertyii> do you get what i mean Pici
[15:30] <azertyii>  ?
[15:30] <llutz> Chees_BHW: it happens
[15:30] <UICTamale> Hello everyone.  After performing a usual apt-get update/upgrade this morning, my laptop with an ATI graphics card using the open-source drivers on ubuntu 11.10 is running incredibly slowly.
[15:31] <Chees_BHW> ok thanks llutz
[15:31] <ragnarok> hey
[15:31] <llutz> Chees_BHW: i'll paste you my conf, 2 secs
[15:31] <domnic> !dbus
[15:31] <UICTamale> Can anyone help?
[15:32] <azertyii> well anyone can aswer to my questioN ,
[15:32] <azertyii> ?
[15:32] <urthmover> I have installed 11.10. during the boot process I see the ubuntu splash screen...then goes blank and I see a blinking cursor in the upper left.  From that point I have waited for at least 10 minutes and the cursor is still there.  If I press Alt-F2 I am put on a nice new vtty and given the opportunity to log in.  How can I fix the initial startup so that I am prompted with a login without pressing Alt_F2?
[15:32] <domnic> ! dbus
[15:32] <llutz> Chewtoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745188/
[15:32] <deej1976> azertyii : ^Y means Ctrl-Y, http://www.answers.com/topic/caret
[15:32] <ragnarok> The kmess package in ubuntu is buggy. It has a disconnection bug which was fixed in a recent version of Kmess. Please update it.
[15:32] <azertyii> this one : grep "^[bB]" fic4   is equal to this one     grep "[bB]" fic4
[15:32] <dp> anyone?
[15:32] <Jordan_U> !bug | ragnarok
[15:33] <Jordan_U> ragnarok: Reporting bugs here will do nothing to get them fixed.
[15:33] <llutz> azertyii: no
[15:33] <azertyii> why ? llutz
[15:33] <jatt> which is the best way of installing grub on an external USB drive and make it bootable?
[15:33] <synapse> How can I ensure that the eact same kernel options/config will be built (except for one file I hacked) for Lucid?  I cloned the source and want to use /boot/config-2.6.32-35-generic as my config.
[15:33] <llutz> azertyii: ^ <- at the beginning of a line
[15:34] <urthmover> is plymouth or something getting in the way?  How do I begin to troubleshoot this boot process issue?
[15:35] <UICTamale> Hello everyone.  After performing a usual apt-get update/upgrade this morning, my laptop with an ATI graphics card using the open-source drivers on ubuntu 11.10 is running incredibly slowly.  Can anyone help?
[15:35] <azertyii> ok perfect i get now llutz
[15:35] <azertyii> thanks
[15:36] <odb|fidel> UICTamale: what is slow?
[15:36] <UICTamale> Everything.  Moving windows, typing in the terminal
[15:36] <UICTamale> etc
[15:36] <odb|fidel> the entire device or just x/gui related things?
[15:36] <UICTamale> I believe it's all X related
[15:36] <scope> hi, does anyone know about this stuff: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS ... i got it after changing my hostname...
[15:36] <UICTamale> The mouse is responding quickly
[15:36] <domnic> UICTamale, you should read the manual before upgrade.. according to system requirements.
[15:36] <UICTamale> but that's about it
[15:37] <UICTamale> Really??  The update manager doesn't really warn you that things might be unusable after just updating your packages.. :[
[15:37] <iceroot> domnic: he is talking about apt-get upgrade
[15:37] <scope> it's weird cuz now i can't upgrade or install anythin at the CLI
[15:37] <iceroot> domnic: no "do-release-upgrade"
[15:38] <surfdue> Good morning, I have a final ram question. I am purchased 16gb of ram today I have these two options Centon 1333Mhz - http://bit.ly/v8zFJo (Radioshack - Total: $100) or PNY 1066Mhz - http://bit.ly/v0FAqP (CompUSA/Tigerdirect - Total: $80)
[15:38] <UICTamale> I guess one of my main questions is whether I should be using the open source drivers at all.. with my last laptop I had to use fglrx
[15:38] <iceroot> surfdue: ##hardware
[15:38] <scope> please help, does anyone here knows how i can remove these in my ifconfig output: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS
[15:38] <surfdue> cd ##hardware
[15:38] <surfdue> ;)
[15:38] <azertyii> this command is used what kind of purpose ? eval
[15:38] <UICTamale> But I was humming along fine with the open source drivers until 20 minutes ago
[15:38] <Boreeas> Somehow, my flash is all laggy/buggy. Screen freezes every couple of second,  screens to fade correctly...
[15:38] <Boreeas> How can I fix this?
[15:39] <domnic> no i simply want to say read the system requirement before you upgrade ..simply typing command in terminal will end you like this...sorry for this words
[15:39] <llutz> azertyii: i'd think your teacher wants YOU to do your homework, not us
[15:39] <UICTamale> domnic: I thought it was good to always stay up to date
[15:39] <dp> where does ubuntu keep the dm to start (gdm/kdm/xdm/etc) ?
[15:39] <iceroot> domnic: again, we are talking about apt-get upgrade. your sentence does not make any sense
[15:39] <codeforkjeff> hi folks, this morning i updated oneiric to kernel 3.0.0-12 and now i'm getting a kernel error on boot: "CIFS VFS: could not allocate crypto hmacmd5" i have a few CIFS mounts in my fstab. am i missing a dependency or something?
[15:40] <iceroot> UICTamale: maybe "top" is showing what is causing a high load?
[15:40] <azertyii> anyone else ?
[15:40] <iceroot> azertyii: ?
[15:41] <UICTamale> iceroot: overall cpu usage is very low, but X is using almost 90%
[15:41] <UICTamale> command "Xorg"
[15:41] <Pici> azertyii: This channel is not a repalcement for reading manpages.  Maybe You should take a look at a bash programming guide or the guides listed in the topic of #bash
[15:41] <iceroot> UICTamale: any hints in the xorg.log?
[15:41] <UICTamale> [    40.164] (II) RADEON(0): Allocate new frame buffer 3840x1296 stride 3840
[15:41] <UICTamale> [    40.164] (II) RADEON(0): VRAM usage limit set to 210913K
[15:42] <iceroot> UICTamale: is this also in the logs before you did the upgrade?
[15:42] <DrPoO> how do I kill gnome from the command line?
[15:43] <webBuilder> guys I configure dual monitor in ubuntu 11.10 in gnome classig but where there is the pannel on the top of the screen in stead of being as usual now I see that its taking half of the screen. how can I eliminate this problem, I have NVIDia driver on Latitude e6510
[15:43] <UICTamale> oo good idea.. let me check.
[15:43] <shanept> DrPo0: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop
[15:43] <iceroot> DrPoO: sudo servide gdm stop  (or lightdm)
[15:43] <iceroot> !upstart | shanept
[15:43] <shanept> DrPo0: Must be run from terminal NOT gnome-terminal
[15:43] <UICTamale> iceroot: looks like it, yes
[15:43] <shanept> iceroot: Thanks
[15:43] <domnic> UICTamale, sorry for the drift.. can you paste output of ..lspci | grep VGA
[15:43] <iceroot> UICTamale: ok then i dont think its the issue
[15:43] <DrPoO> thanks iceroot
[15:43] <tonyblack> hallo
[15:44] <UICTamale> iceroot: I'm thinking I should try the proprietary AMD driver
[15:44] <iceroot> UICTamale: what is the package-name of the open-source driver you are using?
[15:45] <iceroot> UICTamale: maybe "apt-get changelog packagename" has some usefull infos
[15:45] <UICTamale> xserver-xorg-video-ati
[15:45] <UICTamale> and xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[15:46] <Osmodivs> LINUX Kernel Update is here!!
[15:46] <szal> UICTamale: what card exactly are you talking about?
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: last changed 11.08.2011
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: both
[15:46] <Osmodivs> Kernel 3.0.0.13.15 FTW!!
[15:46] <iceroot> UICTamale: on 11.10
[15:46] <orated> !gpt
[15:46] <Osmodivs> Oh... there is a 3.1 version already available?
[15:47] <UICTamale> I have the firepro m8900
[15:47] <codeforkjeff> no one else seeing CIFS errors on 11.10 after upgrade to 3.0.0-12?
[15:47] <Osmodivs> Well... I use UBUNTU
[15:47] <szal> Osmodivs: won't be, at least not for Oneiric
[15:47] <webBuilder> you know what
[15:47] <webBuilder> I'm going to try mint
[15:47] <UICTamale> szal:  I just downloaded ati-driver-installer-11-11-x86.x86_64.run
[15:47] <webBuilder> I'm tired of this ubuntu
[15:48] <Osmodivs> szal: Can Ubuntu Break if I compile the latest Kernel?
[15:48] <szal> UICTamale: that was not the question
[15:48] <orated> How can I use GUID Partition Table method with installer than using default MBR style partitioning scheme?
[15:48] <szal> Osmodivs: I pretty much guess so
[15:48] <Thetawaves> I have a kernel module set in debug mode yet i can not figure out where the messages go, they're not in dmesg, /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log
[15:48] <szal> webBuilder: Mint is just Ubuntu in shinier packaging
[15:48] <UICTamale> szal:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Blackcomb [AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series] - it's the firepro M8900
[15:48] <Osmodivs> ... I'll stick with Ubuntu's tailored Kernel
[15:49] <Osmodivs> Thank you very much
[15:49] <domnic> UICTamale, uname -a
[15:49] <urthmover> :exit
[15:49] <UICTamale> domnic: Linux tamastation 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:49] <scope> please help, does anyone here knows how i can remove these in my ifconfig output: http://pastebin.com/VpkgJUcS
[15:49] <Jordan_U> orated: If your drive is larger than 2 TiB then GPT will be used by default. If not, then you can get the installer to use gpt by creating a GPT label with GParted first, then installing Ubuntu.
[15:49] <rootux> Where can I find a driver for (Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller) ? -- I already googled it and search on the Broadcom site but I don't find anything.
[15:49] <webBuilder> szal, propably it is but the gui change is not working for me in dual monitor, I ask a question no one answer, they keep creating new OS every freaking 6 month yet the changes do not do other than westing my time
[15:50] <szal> UICTamale: are you sure your card is listed as supported by that driver?
[15:50] <webBuilder> at this point even Windows 7 is great
[15:50] <webBuilder> at list lately doesn't break
[15:50] <sipior> webBuilder: complain elsewhere.
[15:50] <pangur> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and want to put spyder into the list of icons in my launcher panel.  I can run spyder via terminal but would prefer to be able to click on an icon instead.  Any suggestions as to how I might do that, please?
[15:50] <domnic> UICTamale, so what's the big deal to provide uname -a
[15:50] <webBuilder> sipior, this is I think the right place, we are westing time by creating new version every six month common
[15:51] <UICTamale> domnic:  ? I just pasted it
[15:51] <sipior> webBuilder: you're mistaken.
[15:51] <webBuilder> how much time did you really wested in updating upgrading etc...
[15:51] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: This channel is for support, not for unproductive complaining. Good luck with a new OS, but please keep discussion here to productive support questions.
[15:52] <webBuilder> Jordan_U, I really did ask a legitimate problem no one answer except gang banging on my complains
[15:52] <incorrect> what is the performance hit if I was to use a swap file rather than a partition?
[15:52] <phunyguy_> hey folks, is network-manager able to manage bridged connections?
[15:52] <ragnarok> here?
[15:52] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: dont you get it? your input is not about support - so you are somehow in the wrong place to discuss it
[15:52] <phunyguy_> I am trying to set up a virtual machine host with KVM and bridged networking.  I used command line to create the bridge, but then network manager gets upset and stops managing the network.
[15:52] <iceroot> incorrect: partition will be faster (but i dont think you will see the differences)
[15:53] <phunyguy_> including not connecting to my VPN
[15:53] <webBuilder> "here is my legitimate question I have had" guys I configure dual monitor in ubuntu 11.10 in gnome classig but where there is the pannel on the top of the screen in stead of being as usual now I see that its taking half of the screen. how can I eliminate this problem, I have NVIDia driver on Latitude e6510
[15:53] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: If nobody knows the answer to your question then nobody will answer it. That does not give you a right to continue with offtopic and unproductive complaining. This is your last warning to stop.
[15:53] <incorrect> iceroot, i was thinking about using a file on an encrypted partition, rather than using encrypted swap
[15:53] <zykotick9> incorrect, a swap file can also not be used for hibernation
[15:53] <domnic> incorrect, if you have low ram swap will help you till some extend
[15:54] <incorrect> maybe i should just upgrade to 8GB and forget having swap
[15:54] <llutz> there are hibernation-methods working with swap-files. just the default won't
[15:55] <domnic> incorrect, what you really want to do
[15:55] <incorrect> oh yes, 8gb is nothing
[15:55] <UICTamale> I am not sure that the default AMD linux driver includes support for my card. I don't see a list of cards it supports anywhere.  I did however find this page:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/57612/dell-m6600-amd-firepro-m8900-graphics-driver-and-power-issues
[15:56] <incorrect> in terms of cost
[15:56] <sipior> incorrect: you'll want at least some swap, irrespective of ram allotment.
[15:56] <incorrect> sipior, i don't care about hibernate
[15:57] <zykotick9> phunyguy, i'd be surprised if N-M can do bridging stuff, i too use KVM+bridge networking (but no N-M here).  Best of luck, with your N-M VPN you might need it ;)
[15:57] <Thetawaves> incorrect, no performance hit
[15:57] <sipior> incorrect: i wasn't referring to hibernation.
[15:57] <incorrect> why would i want swap with more ram than i can shake a stick at?
[15:57] <phunyguy_> doh... thanks zykotick9
[15:57] <sipior> incorrect: you'll want swap to handle unused memory allocations, to keep them out of ram.
[15:57] <webBuilder> Jordan_U,  since you worned me here is a good question then 1) why there is new version of ubuntu every 6 month, 2) why it's pops up if I do not upgrade to the new version the message every time I start the machine, and yet when I upgrade things are not working, is there a way to stop those messages and stick to the older version
[15:58] <incorrect> sipior, just means they have to swap in if i need them
[15:58] <sipior> incorrect: trading €0.10/GB disk space for €20+/GB ram is not terribly clever.
[15:58]  * pangur is away: Gone away for now
[15:58] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: 1) cause canonical decided too -  2) cause you havent reconfigured the behaviour
[15:58] <odb|fidel> simple isnt it?
[15:58] <JHH> I need help installing epson printer packages. I have downloaded the correct ones from the internet but I'm a newb and have no idea how to install them. shopuld they appear in additional drivers?
[15:58] <sipior> incorrect: ideally, they'll never actually be written to disk (they are allocated but not used)
[15:59] <scope> exit
[15:59] <phunyguy_> another issue I am having is VNC connections, I can connect to a remote machine, and see the screen updating, but mouse and keyboard movements are not sent.  ("View Only" is NOT selected)
[15:59] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: some call it release-cycle (regarding 1))
[16:00] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: 1) Is not a support question, please stop asking. 2) I don't know of a way to stop those messages other than installing an LTS release of Ubuntu and making sure that only LTS Releases prompt for upgrades (the default if you originally installed an LTS release).
[16:01] <zykotick9> phunyguy, does the box you're connecting to have compiz running?  if so, try disabling compiz and see if VNC works then.
[16:01] <JHH> I need help installing epson printer packages. I have downloaded the correct ones from the internet but I'm a newb and have no idea how to install them. shopuld they appear in additional drivers?
[16:01] <webBuilder> Jordan_U,  and odb|fidel thanks for the answer specially the answer of 2
[16:01] <phunyguy_> zykotick9, I can see the desktop and see stuff happening on the screen, just can't click.
[16:02] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: Note that even though I don't know of any other way, I'm sure there is one. But keep in mind that you will need to upgrade eventually when the Ubuntu version you're running goes EOL.
[16:02] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: You're welcome.
[16:02] <zykotick9> phunyguy, yes i know - i read it the first time ;)
[16:02] <odb|fidel> webBuilder: start 'Software sources' and reconfigure the checks how you like em
[16:02] <phunyguy_> zykotick9, can compiz be disabled with unity?
[16:02] <pangur> I have installed spyder on my Ubuntu 11.10 and can run it by typing "spyder" in terminal.  I would like to have it as an icon in my launcher instead.  How do I do that?
[16:02] <zykotick9> phunyguy_, nope
[16:02] <phunyguy_> and I would love to disable it but i can't click.
[16:02] <odb|fidel> there is really no need to be notified as long as you care yourself manually about updates then
[16:02] <phunyguy_> lol
[16:02] <genii-around> webBuilder: If you don't want to see any distribution upgrade notices, make sure you have Prompt=never in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:02] <phunyguy_> I am at work, and that box is at home
[16:02] <webBuilder> Jordan_U, is there a way manually edit the GUI of Ubuntu gnome classic it's taking half of the screen
[16:02] <webBuilder> genii-around, Thank you
[16:03] <vibhav> pangur: Is spyder a graphical app?
[16:03] <pangur> it is an ide
[16:03] <topriddy> what does The following packages have unmet dependecies mean?? i seem to be getting it for every single apt-get install command i run.
[16:04] <odb|fidel> topriddy: which part is confusing you of the message?
[16:04] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: Please address questions to the entire channel rather than directing them to me.
[16:04] <genii-around> topriddy: Are you running apt-get update before the apt-get install ?
[16:04] <webBuilder> Thank you so much to all of you for trying to help. even tho I sounded to you a bit complainer
[16:04] <topriddy> genii-around: i did that update before. i am simply testing installing of vlc now.
[16:04] <vibhav> pangur: Assuming it is a graphical app , you can drag it to the desktop from the dash
[16:04] <Jordan_U> webBuilder: You're welcome.
[16:05] <javier_faj> Hi! I have a problem with Ubuntu Virtualbox running windows 7. I have mounted my ubuntu home profile, and I can explore it normally. But, if I open a program (microsoft word, for example) and open an explorer (for open a file, save a file, whatever) it goes extremelly slow. I think the reason is that I see my "home folder" (which is detected as an unit) marked as disconnected, but can't change that. Someone knows how can I fix this? Thanks!
[16:05] <topriddy> odb|fidel: I am wondering why it wont just install dependencies and let me be.
[16:05] <Gentoo64> topriddy: you could try changing the mirror
[16:05] <pangur>  /me tries vibhav's advice
[16:05] <usuario> olA
[16:05] <topriddy> Gentoo64: mirror? i thought we could have several repos url in ubuntu?
[16:06] <pangur> OK, that worked, thanks, vibhav :)
[16:06] <genii-around> topriddy: sudo apt-get update grabs the most updated list of packages. So if you run it just before trying to install something, the packages will have much less chance of unmet dependencies.
[16:06] <usuario> OLAAA
[16:06] <vibhav> pangur: :)
[16:06] <zykotick9> !es | usuario
[16:06] <genii-around> topriddy: This also happens if you you have for instance a mix of packages from PPAs
[16:06] <pangur> Vibhav, supplementary question: Can I edit the icon that was generated?
[16:07] <topriddy> genii-around: i added a ppa:XXXX to repos, it keeps giving Not Found error everytime i run an update. i think i should remove it, but not sure how
[16:08] <pangur> Is there a way of editing/replacing icons in launcher?
[16:08] <SeaWookie> pangur: try system, preferences, main menu
[16:08] <genii-around> topriddy: Any PPAs you added will be in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  .. you can ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   to get the name it has there for it, then sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whatever-ppa-name-is.list
[16:08] <orated> Jordan_U: Is MBR way the default style of partitioning used by Ubuntu? How much space I should assign when using GParted to create GPT before installation? Is there any proper place of HDD it needs allocation or can be kept in the end, middle? Can it be allocated on second HDD with OS on other drive?
[16:08] <pangur> ty SeaWookie :)
[16:09] <SeaWookie> pangur: yw hope it helps
[16:09] <genii-around> topriddy: Then of course sudo apt-get update ... to update the internal list of whats available
[16:09] <domnic> pangur, decorations :((
[16:10] <pangur> SeaWookie: I can find system settings but neither preferences nor main menu ... eek!
[16:10] <pangur> Decorations, domnic?
[16:11] <Gentoo64> pangur: that might be for gnome2
[16:11] <SeaWookie> pangur: what version of ubuntu?
[16:11] <pangur> 11.10
[16:12] <pangur> To be honest, I preferred the classic ubuntu to this dash stuff.
[16:12]  * pangur is a migrant from M$ Windows.
[16:13] <Gentoo64> almost everyone hates the dash
[16:13] <pangur> I was scared to say in case I offended someone.
[16:13] <domnic> Gentoo64, `dash...? is it bash
[16:13] <Andy80> is there any known problem in sharing a /home between two Ubuntu installations (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Ubuntu 11.10) in particular about different configuration/settings due to different packages versions?
[16:13] <SeaWookie> pangur: ah ok you have unity
[16:14] <pangur> Yeah Unity.
[16:14] <Gentoo64> Andy80: i wouldnt
[16:14] <pangur> However, I am eager to move to something more intuitive for me.
[16:14] <SeaWookie> pangur: i didnt like it so stayed at 10...let me look
[16:14] <pangur> Not eager to go back to 10 though :)
[16:14] <Gentoo64> Andy80: /home should only be a few MB anyway unless you store videos or whatever in there
[16:14] <Gentoo64> pangur: theres other variants of ubuntu with different desktops
[16:15] <xangua> !nounity | pangur
[16:15] <pangur> This was the default wubi installation.
[16:15] <xangua> there are also kde, xfde, lxde...
[16:15] <Andy80> Gentoo64: well... my /home is lot of Gb since it contains pictures, video, documents ecc...
[16:15] <Gentoo64> look at kubuntu, it looks a bit like windows 7
[16:15] <domnic> Andy80, please tell the problem to session ..
[16:15] <Gentoo64> Andy80: well if the apps are different versions, then itll mess up the configs. i would make a partition/drive for the pics and vids and share that
[16:16] <pangur> Thanks xangua and Gentoo64.
[16:16] <Andy80> domnic: what do you mean exactly?
[16:16] <Andy80> Gentoo64: ok, understand... thanks
[16:17] <domnic> Andy80, please elaborate you question
[16:17] <Gentoo64> domnic: he has...
[16:18] <domnic> Gentoo64, i need more specification before i can comment ...
[16:18] <Gentoo64> his question has already been answered
[16:18] <Andy80> yeah
[16:18] <topriddy> genii-around: i just did that  now. now there is absolutely  nothing at all in my sources.list.d folder
[16:18] <zykotick9> Andy80, sharing home between two different installs can certainly lead to issue (but might not) - it's certainly a risk for breaking the ~/.* config files for both installs (you've been warned, now do as you want)
[16:18] <domnic> Gentoo64, thanks .. :)))
[16:18] <b0ot> What is the best way to get php 5 and apache 2 running on ubuntu 10.04
[16:19] <Andy80> zykotick9: thanks to you too :)
[16:19] <topriddy> genii-around: i still cant install vlc though, :(
[16:19] <b0ot> I saw the command "sudo apt-get install lamp-server" but I wasn't sure how well that worked
[16:19] <somsip_> b0ot: just install them separately. It's worked fine for me
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> b0ot  try tasksel
[16:19] <zykotick9> !lamp | b0ot
[16:19] <genii-around> topriddy: Can you pastebin the output from trying to install it?
[16:19] <quixotedon> linthesia isn't working, anybody uses linthesia?
[16:20] <b0ot> !taskel
[16:20] <b0ot> !tasksel
[16:20] <Andy80> I'll just reinstall 11.10 from scratch, since upgrading from 11.04 really made my system unusable
[16:20] <iceroot> b0ot: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[16:20] <zykotick9> b0ot, tasksel is a program "sudo tasksel"
[16:20] <jww> hi.
[16:20] <domnic> genii-around, only the extension of the file is enough
[16:20] <genii-around> domnic: ?
[16:21] <topriddy> genii-around: please can you tell me what irc app is available on my ubuntu 11 by default? i cant easily pastebin, am using irc on windows and doing admin work on another linux system
[16:21] <jww> does someone know if it's possible to have nautilus doesn't try to keep the same rights when copying a file ?
[16:21] <Gentoo64> jww as in what?
[16:21] <genii-around> topriddy: I believe it's Empathy
[16:22] <Gentoo64> if you copy a file from /hom as root, itll be owned by root
[16:22] <domnic> genii-around, to my knowledge you are trying to install some package
[16:22] <jww> like if I was using cp, not providing -p parameter.
[16:22] <Gentoo64> domnic: whats your native language?
[16:22] <javier_faj> hi: I have problems in ubuntu oracle virtualbox running windows 7. Shared folders are disconnected and it goes very slow
[16:22] <domnic> Gentoo64, does that matter..
[16:22] <genii-around> domnic: No. topriddy is trying to install vlc but getting some dependency errors. I am trying to assist them by having them pastebin their errors so it can be examined.
[16:23] <b0ot> sudo tasksel install lamp-server fails
[16:23] <Gentoo64> domnic: well you dont seem to understand anything
[16:23] <jww> Gentoo64: I dunno if I was clear.
[16:23] <fission6> how do i allow mongodb to write a folder, i get permission denied
[16:24] <genii-around> topriddy: You could also install pastebinit   then do like: sudo apt-get install vlc | pastebinit   ... then just give the url
[16:24] <domnic> Gentoo64, so you figured you the language instead..its a good community simply don't go for it..i keep it that way
[16:24] <Gentoo64> well, i didnt understand that either
[16:25] <fission6> how do i allow a user to write to a folder on a mounted driver
[16:25] <b0ot> it's working after an update
[16:25] <b0ot> but it says 20 minutes to install
[16:25] <b0ot> ... for a lamp-server
[16:27] <Gentoo64> fission try sudo
[16:28] <uictamale> Hello everyone.. unfortunately I'm not having much luck with the proprietary drivers either.. All transparency looks garbled, I can't use the HDMI out, and font antialiasing is so broken I can't read most fonts.
[16:28] <uictamale> So my choices are extremely slow open-source, or broken propreitary?
[16:28] <phunyguy_> can anyone tell me how to specify MORE DHCP options for Qemu/libvirt?  I need to specify DNS search suffix for guests.  Thanks
[16:28] <uictamale> bbiab
[16:29] <llutz> fission6: what filesystem? either use correct mount-options on non-unix fs or adjust ownership/permissions on unix-fs
[16:29] <fission6> can someone help me with changing permissions so that a user can write to a mount
[16:29] <Gentoo64> fission6: try sudo
[16:29] <Gentoo64> if it says permission denied
[16:29] <xangua> uictamale: you coult use no accelerate solutions like unity-2d or gnome fallback mode
[16:29] <jww> don't use the name of root in vain.
[16:30] <fission6> no i am running mongodb and i get a permissions issue, i think the user mongodb needs to be able to twrite to the folder i configued the db for
[16:30] <jww> fission6: don't try sudo, try understanding what's going on.
[16:30] <fission6> i am not sure how to give the right permissions, do i add a group or what/
[16:30] <llutz> fission6:  adjust ownership/permissions on unix-fs
[16:30] <fission6> i know whats going on, mongod use needs r+w for the folder
[16:30] <Gentoo64> jww: i thought he meant to a normal mount
[16:30] <Gentoo64> then sudo would be right
[16:30] <llutz> Gentoo64: nonsense
[16:30] <fission6> sudo what?
[16:31] <Gentoo64> llutz: ?
[16:31] <jww> fission6: sudo nothing, show us the command you type, and the error message.
[16:31] <fission6> i just need to make the user mongod be able to read and write to.from /the/db/path
[16:31] <llutz> Gentoo64: using sudo is nonsense. he just has to configure permissions and ownership correctly
[16:31] <fission6> Unable to create/open lock file: /space/mongodb/db/mongod.lock errno:13 Permission denied Is a mongod instance already running?, terminating
[16:31] <fission6> and no, its not running
[16:31] <llutz> Gentoo64: that what file-permissions are for.
[16:31] <kyubutsu> fission6: add the user to the group the folder belongs to
[16:32] <Gentoo64> llutz: well yeah you could chmod or chown, but thats not always the best way. sometimes you want to keep stuff owned by root
[16:32] <jww> fission6: so what does ls -l /space/mongodb/db do ?
[16:32] <llutz> Gentoo64: not in this case.
[16:32] <fission6> jww total 0, but i am a different user then what mongo runs under
[16:32] <domnic> Gentoo64, you really don't require those command in ubuntu..
[16:32] <Gentoo64> domnic: good luck never using sudo
[16:33] <IRSteveB> Got a weird problem with a new ubuntu install.  I have a bunch of makefiles that output ANSI terminal codes, ex. 'echo -e "\e[36;1mBlah\e[0m"'.  These work fine on my other systems but in make under Ubuntu it loses the esc/formatting (from the command line the same echo works fine).  Any ideas?
[16:33] <domnic> Gentoo64, don't give advance command to new user..
[16:33] <fission6> kyubutsu: i think you are right, how do i do that
[16:33] <Gentoo64> domnic: stop troling
[16:33] <Pici> domnic: You aren't being helpful here. Please stop.
[16:34] <fission6> guys settle down, i just need to either add the user to the group or change ownership, i dont know which one is "best"
[16:34] <domnic> Gentoo64, ok.. only looking ..sorry
[16:34] <Gentoo64> fission6: add your user to the mongo group
[16:34] <CloudQc> Hey all
[16:34] <Gentoo64> fission6: sorry at first i thought mongo was your normal username :)
[16:35] <fission6> there is no mongo group i dont believe
[16:35] <MVanDruff> so does anyone know how to get virtual box to boot my windows xp partition
[16:35] <CloudQc> When using a KVM with Ubuntu - my graphic drivers do not seem to load properly if I the KVM is not pointing to the Ubuntu PC. Is this a known problem and is there a workaround?
[16:35] <fission6> i just want to change the /space/mongo folder so that the user mongod can read and write - thats all
[16:36] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown -R
[16:36] <szal> MVanDruff: perhaps the folks in #vbox know
[16:36] <theadmin> MVanDruff: Easy.
[16:36] <fission6> Gentoo64: do i want to do that or change the group
[16:37] <jiffe98> is there a command line method of exporting ufw rules?
[16:37] <cyrax> hi guys do u know some channel that speaks about python ?
[16:37] <theadmin> MVanDruff: Which hard drive is it on? And, are you using Virtualbox in Linux or Windows?
[16:37] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown -R mongo:mongo /folder would make the owner mongo
[16:37] <soreau> CloudQc: In some cases, the gpu needs to be plugged into an output for the drivers to probe the edid and select a mode
[16:37] <theadmin> cyrax: #python
[16:37] <cyrax> thank u..
[16:40] <MVanDruff> the admin its sdb1 and i am running the virtualbox in linux
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> good morning/afternoon/night!
[16:40] <jww> hi SolarisBoy
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> hey jww
[16:40] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: vbox wont boot a real partition
[16:40] <jww> heh guys nobody know I can prevent nautilus to keep the same rights on files ?
[16:40] <jww> it's a pain.
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> jww: nautilus is changing permissions on your files?
[16:41] <MVanDruff> Gentoo64, I want to boot the secondary os while in linux i am tired of having to restart for my wife
[16:41] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: youll have to make a vbox disk and install it again
[16:41] <jww> SolarisBoy: yes, when I copy over a sftp share, it try to keep rights like on the original file.
[16:42] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: otherwise youll have to reboot and dual boot
[16:42] <fission6> i think what i should do is create a group and make the group have read write on /space/mongo, right?
[16:42] <Gentoo64> fission6: yeah you could
[16:42] <Gentoo64> fission6: if its for something specific
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[16:43] <MVanDruff> Gentoo64, do you meen that i can run them simultaneously
[16:43] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: no
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> jww: how do you copy the files (using nautilus or something i guess? as normal user?) and who are they owned by initially?
[16:43] <fission6> Gentoo64: okay how would i change group for a folder
[16:43] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: if you wana use vbox, youll have to reinstall the OS in a vbov hdd
[16:44] <Gentoo64> fission6: chown user:group
[16:44] <fission6> ok
[16:44] <sniz-> on a wubi install... is it possible to add an entry into grub for another OS?
[16:44] <Gentoo64> MVanDruff: youll have to do it that way
[16:44] <sniz-> from within windows that is
[16:44] <jww> SolarisBoy: I do it with nautilus, own is called ferrero  and rights are 755. on the sftp server I have a umask of 002, so file should be 775 when incoming.
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> MVanDruff: is the system you want to virtualize windows?
[16:45] <jww> SolarisBoy: but it's 755 still
[16:45] <MVanDruff> SolarisBoy, yes but it is an exsisting system
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> MVanDruff: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> you can try this im not sure how well it works on windows but you can convert a disk image to a virtual disk
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> or a disk -> disk image -> virtual disk
[16:46] <Gentoo64> easier to install from scratch tbh
[16:46] <Gentoo64> dno if win would even boot
[16:46] <Gentoo64> goes by the mobo bios etc
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> trueness
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> yep they cover that in the how too as well though and prewarn in those cases
[16:47] <Gentoo64> then youd have to uninstall/reinstall drivers guest additions blah
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> yea... just a note that it is remotely possible
[16:47] <Gentoo64> ive heard of it too
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> but Gentoo64 is defintely right,, probably waaay easier to reinstall
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> s/probably//g
[16:48] <Gentoo64> which is ncurses like
[16:49] <gmachine_24> Greetings. A dual-boot desktop (Win7HomePremium64bit + Ubuntu NN) won't boot - just goes to grub rescue> prompt with a blinking cursor.
[16:50] <kyubutsu> reinstall grub using livecd
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> im having an issue with my monitor frequency && can't see anything past boot loader taking over on a system,, its a two headed issue, as i ran into it on a reboot gone bad,, not sure if im fscking or some error but i can't get a successful boot up and need to access the system console directly,, however the monitor frequency issue is impeding me as i can't see... i was able to install ubuntu to a SD card and i can boot the "live CD" from there.. i can se
[16:53] <gmachine_24> kyubutsu, and exactly how do I do that?
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> jww wouldn't your umask on the destination need to be set to adhere to your perm settings?
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> jww e.g. the mask on the target host you are copying *to*
[16:54] <DexterF> hi
[16:54] <DexterF> what package do I need to have video previews in gThumb?
[16:55] <DexterF> video thumbnails that is
[16:55] <kyubutsu> gmachine_24: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub    <-- there is some info to get you started
[16:55] <LemonAid> Hello. Is there any other way to restart the network except "/etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[16:55] <LemonAid> I mean the interfaces.
[16:56] <scorinitron> Hey guys I lost my IRC password what do I do?
[16:56] <theadmin> scorinitron: Contact #freenode people
[16:57] <scorinitron> theadmin, Thanks Man, Highly Appreciated
[17:00] <phunyguy_> can anyone tell me how to specify MORE DHCP options for Qemu/libvirt?  I need to specify DNS search suffix for guests.  Thanks
[17:00] <tables> what can i use to convert video files to mp4 to put on my ipod?
[17:00] <piedro> can anyone help me to find the file mysql-global.conf in ubuntu (or the corresponding one ...)
[17:01] <theadmin> tables: Try winff
[17:01] <iceroot> piedro: /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[17:02] <piedro> thx! can I use the same entries and variables to configure it like the normal mysql-global.conf?
[17:03] <Kim4x> LemonAid: what do you wnat exactly? did you look at ifdown / ifup ?
[17:03] <iceroot> piedro: never heard of mysql-global.conf
[17:04] <piedro> ok, thx, can I use things like "wiat_timeout=" ?
[17:04] <piedro> "wait_timeout", sorrry
[17:04] <iceroot> piedro: i dont know, read the manual or ask #mysql or just try it
[17:04] <ToeTag> Anyone able to give advice on using netbootin to get a 'live cd' of lubuntu going?
[17:05] <scorinitron> anybody heard of Backtrack?
[17:05] <iceroot> ToeTag: the same as for ubuntu
[17:05] <llutz> piedro: you mean /etc/mysql/my-conf ?
[17:05] <llutz> my.conf even
[17:05] <xangua> !backtrack | scorinitron
[17:05] <scorinitron> I just caught wind of it while looking for linux distros
[17:05] <oCean> scorinitron: sure. They have their own channel #backtrack-linux
[17:05] <ToeTag> iceroot, i've done the install and when i boot i get a menu, but nothing like "try without installing"
[17:05] <piedro> ok thx a lot! I'll try!!! :-)
[17:06] <scorinitron> what's the command to sign in to your irc nick
[17:06] <scorinitron> I forgot
[17:06] <scorinitron> :)
[17:06] <ToeTag> iceroot, what i mean is i've used netbootin to make a bootable usb from a lubuntu iso, and all the options seem to be for 'install'...i just want to run it live
[17:06] <nasrix> hello
[17:06] <sskniranjan> is there any way to restore the ubuntu as it was in windows restore
[17:07] <ToeTag> anyone familiar with using netbootin?
[17:07] <xangua> sskniranjan: that depends, do you have your home in a separate partition¿
[17:07] <iceroot> ToeTag: i dont know if there is a live-cd from lubuntu
[17:07] <Tinybird> Hi, all
[17:07] <adam_vollrath> How do I take a screenshot of what's running in LightDM from the command line?
[17:08] <Tinybird> I want to use command line without X windows system, what should I do?
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> I can't get ImageMagick's `import` to do so.
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> Tinybird: minimal install
[17:08] <gmachine_24> kyubutsu, many thanks
[17:08] <ToeTag> iceroot, i was trying to install the latest version of the distro, do the "live cd"s usually lag behind the regular release of the OS?
[17:08] <adam_vollrath> ToeTag: you update/upgrade after you install, of course.
[17:09] <selim_> takos tu est la
[17:09] <ToeTag> adam_vollrath, i'm trying to get a live cd going - but all of the options seem to be for install
[17:09] <sskniranjan> is there any way to restore ubuntu
[17:09] <xangua> (11:07:35) xangua: sskniranjan: that depends, do you have your home in a separate partition¿
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> restre what exactly?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> restore*
[17:10] <Tinybird> adam_vollrath: thanks for your advice. But I have install ubuntu desktop version, how can I enter the command line without gnome?
[17:10] <sskniranjan> no i had the same partion
[17:10] <sskniranjan> actually i had made no partition
[17:10] <nitro282> #ubuntu-it
[17:10] <scratchingmyhead> without opening the box, how can I tell how much memory I have?
[17:10] <golden_axe> hi how can i change the language of noscript for firefox?
[17:11] <iceroot> scratchingmyhead: free -m, cat /proc/meminfo, top
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> scratchingmyhead  free -m
[17:11] <scratchingmyhead> thx
[17:12] <adam_vollrath> scratchingmyhead: lshw
[17:13] <zainu> ooooling
[17:14] <scratchingmyhead> total mem 3266 ??? How many gigs is that
[17:14] <scratchingmyhead> how to find the total Ram Mem?
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> the boards
[17:15] <lnb> is there a command to install the current apps on a 11.04 if one reinstalls to latest Ubuntu?
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> im thinking I have 3gigs of working mem     and I right?
[17:15] <oCean> scratchingmyhead: little over 3GB apparently. Try   sudo lshw -C memory  to see details
[17:15] <scratchingmyhead> oCean thanks
[17:17] <The_BROS> Are there anybody who plays Nexuis? When play this game, my screen jumps sometimes. How can I fix it?
[17:18] <tables> theadmin, how do you convert to ipod format with this thing?
[17:18] <tables> there's alot of options, but i don't see mp4 or ipod
[17:18] <theadmin> tables: It has mp4... Look carefully, they just called it "MPEG-4"
[17:19] <tables> i swear it doesn't have it
[17:19] <tables> it has a bunch of shit like WMV, AVI, Nokia, blah blah
[17:19] <tables> but no iPod MPEG4 or MP4
[17:19] <tables> AH
[17:19] <tables> i see it now
[17:19] <tables> thx
[17:19] <pikaciu> lol
[17:21] <conntrack> quad damage
[17:22] <Tinybird> I want to use command line without X windows system, what should I do?
[17:23] <xangua> !nox | Tinybird
[17:23] <zykotick9> tables, careful, i don't think winff (ffmpeg really) in ubuntu will be able to export MP4 to your ipod - due to AAC licensing issue.  Handbrake (PPA available) would be able to however.
[17:24] <Tinybird> ubottu: Thank you very much!
[17:24] <kierkkadon> So when trying to add icons to a panel, how do I add them to one panel, but not the other?
[17:24] <kierkkadon> When I select 'add to panel' it adds them to the wrong panel
[17:24] <kierkkadon> (in kubuntu plasma desktop)
[17:25] <Tinybird> ubottu: such a clever AI!
[17:25] <ubuntu> Hello, sorry what is the Italian channel?
[17:25] <zykotick9> !it | ubuntu
[17:30] <daz_rsa> hi guys
[17:30] <daz_rsa> anyone know a decent amount about evolution mail?
[17:31] <daz_rsa> try to get my contact from version 2.3.0 to 3.2.1 on ubuntu 11.10
[17:32] <daz_rsa> hmmmmm not hey?
[17:33] <pepee> hi. latest ati driver (11.11 from amd website) broke suspend/resume: I get a black screen, but the DE continues to work
[17:34] <iceroot> what is the common way to search which source-file is in which source-package?
[17:34] <voltage> sudo apt-get install
[17:35] <broglin> I have a pinned package and I want to unpin it. But I forgot how to do that. Any ideas?
[17:36] <broglin> google seems to think that /etc/apt/preferences is the answer, but I don't have such a file
[17:36] <pikaciu> iceroot; try looking  in the src dir
[17:36] <karlw> What is the "enterprise" way of installing Sun Java now that its been removed from the official ppa's ?
[17:36] <iceroot> pikaciu: ....
[17:36] <iceroot> pikaciu: in every from the whole repo?
[17:37] <pikaciu> iceroot; try looking  in the src dir
[17:37] <pikaciu> iceroot: sorry
[17:37] <iceroot> pikaciu: you dont get what i want. i am searching for something like "apt-file" but for source-packages
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> karlw  i think PPA's are unofficial sources
[17:38] <iceroot> karlw: downloading it directly from oracle
[17:38] <iceroot> karlw: its the only legal way
[17:38] <fellayaboy> how can i edit the options thru ssh on my remote desktop..im trying to uncheck you must confirm
[17:38] <fellayaboy> and a few other options
[17:38] <Kimble> Hi. When attempting to edit /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode with sudo vim, I always get an E667: Fsync failed error.  The only answer i've found so far is that it's a disk space error, but the drive has over 70GB free space. Suggestions?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> options of what?
[17:38] <xangua> karlw: check webupd8 oneiric tweak post, there is a ppa for java6 and manual install instructions for java7
[17:38] <karlw> iceroot, Aha.. sounds cumbersome
[17:38] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <iceroot> karlw: say thank you to oracle
[17:39] <oCean> iceroot: can't you just use apt-file and then search the corresponding source package?
[17:39] <oCean> iceroot: (I'm not 100% percent sure what you're after)
[17:40] <iceroot> oCean: i am searching in what kernel-package a specific file is
[17:40] <karlw> oracle makes my stomach turn... feels like java only can go downhill from here
[17:40] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[17:40] <iceroot> oCean: i dont really get the difference between linux-header, linux-source, linux-image and so on
[17:41] <zykotick9> Kimble, the /proc filesystem is virtual - you can used editors on it
[17:41] <zykotick9> s/used/use/
[17:42] <Kimble> aha, ok. I'm not familiar with virtual fs.  So, how do I edit this file?
[17:42] <zykotick9> Kimble, it's not a file - it's a value
[17:43] <oCean> iceroot: the source is the actual kernel sourcefiles, header files contain reusable code (declarations/classes) which can be used with other code that needs compiling. The -image is the compiled binary
[17:43] <oCean> iceroot: but those are not source packages.
[17:44] <Kimble> zykotick9: aha, I see what you're driving at. Ok, what's the suggested method for modifying such values?
[17:45] <zykotick9> Kimble, you might be able to echo something to it?  What are you trying to do?  It's kinda non-standard to want to do such things.
[17:45] <conntrack> tcp is broken
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> :/proc file system resides in memory AFAIK
[17:45] <topriddy> how do i even know if a camera i plugged in is supported by a llinux system?
[17:45] <Kimble> I'm trying to turn on laptop_mode in my kernel, as I'm running Ubuntu Server 11.10 on a laptop.  Changing this value from 0 to 5 is the reported way.
[17:45] <iceroot> oCean: i thought when i want to rebuild a kernel i am just picking apt the source-file with apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)  do some patching and build it up again
[17:45] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to compile a python package  (PIL) and it says ZLIB support is not available, which I need for PNG support.  Does anyone know the ubuntu packages needed to get this working?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> Kimble: try to echo the value into the file if thats really what you need to do
[17:46] <galvao> I'm looking for performance tips, related to my post at ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1884480 Can anyone shed some light on this?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> Kimble: /proc file system resides in memory so vim may be reporting errors regarding that,, its not really on a disk
[17:46] <pepee> topriddy, check if it's being recognized
[17:46] <zykotick9> Kimble, <warning this could possibly be wrong> "sudo echo 5 > /proc/whateveritis"
[17:46] <Kimble> SolarisBoy: I've tried echoing.  it fails even with sudo.
[17:46] <Kimble> permission denied error.
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> you may not be able to write to that file as you are trying than
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> well you can do tee -a
[17:47] <Kimble> just so you know, this is a change suggested by the Ubuntu documentation.
[17:47] <trism> savid: probably need zlib1g-dev (although PIL is in the repos, python-imaging package)
[17:47] <Kimble> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> echo something | sudo tee -a /proc/wherever/file
[17:47] <iceroot> oCean: so i dont get the difference between "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" and "apt-get install linux-source-3.0.0"
[17:47] <iceroot> oCean: if i am correct, both contains the uncompiled kernel
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> or don't append rather...
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> over write
[17:48] <Kimble> ah, so ignore the -a switch then.
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> echo something | sudo tee /proc/wherever/file
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> yes
[17:48] <savid> trism,  I'm installing PIL within a virtualenv,  which is why I need the dev packages.  I have zlib1g-dev installed.  Any ideas why it wouldn't be working?
[17:48] <Kimble> trying now...
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> OR try the same echo command as root.. either or should work for you
[17:48] <savid> trism, this is ubuntu Natty, btw
[17:49] <fellayaboy> is their a way to see all the options for /desktop/gnome/remote_access???
[17:49] <trism> savid: if you pastebin the output with the errors, I'll take a look, but otherwise I don't know
[17:49] <Kimble> SolarisBoy: that did the trick. Thank you.
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> welcome
[17:50] <trism> savid: you could also try: sudo apt-get build-dep python-imaging;
[17:50] <KiraNightmare> sh
[17:50] <trism> savid: although probably gets you more than you need
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> is there a way to make mountd/nfs client reread fstab on the fly?
[17:51] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, "sudo mount -a" will remount everything in fstab
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> but it's not using the new updated options on my NFS shares =(
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> i read a couple of articles referncing thats a buggy type behaviour or w/e
[17:52] <urthmover> when I start this 11.10 system normally from grub.  I get a clank screen.  When I select recovery mode from the grub menu, mount my disk, and resume I get to a prompt.  How do I troubleshoot this?
[17:52] <orated> Is MBR way the default style of partitioning used by Ubuntu? How much space I should assign when using GParted to create GPT before installation? Is there any proper place in HDD it needs allocation or can be kept in the end, middle? Can it be allocated on second HDD with OS on other drive?
[17:52] <urthmover> clank=blank
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: so was wondering if any other tricks existed.. i updated fstab on 20+ hosts and i know it works fine if i unmount and mount,, but they are in prod and i dont want to do it like that if i dont have to..
[17:53] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, sorry don't have a solution for that... good luck.
[17:53] <urlin2u> urthmover, `what is yoir graphic card?
[17:53] <urlin2u> your*
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: no worries
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: thanks by the way
[17:55]  * SolarisBoy wishes mount --refresh-nfs-shares existed
[17:55] <savid> trism, http://pastie.org/2899033
[17:55] <tables> what do i use to upload mp4 to my iphone?
[17:55] <pikaciu> iceroot: have you tried  $ apt-file list packagename
[17:56] <savid> trism,  I have setup_site.py in the virtualenv's site-packages directory,  which has the following contents:  http://pastie.org/2899037
[17:56] <savid> trism, also, the file  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so   exists.
[17:56] <urlin2u> orated, I don't think gparted even recognizes gpt
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: i was questioning if this would work 'mount -i remount <share>'
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: turns out it does
[17:56] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy, nice
[17:57] <zykotick9> tables, did winff fail?
[17:57] <zykotick9> tables, or upload is the issue?
[17:57] <orated> urlin2u: How can I use GUID Partition Table method with installer than using default MBR style partitioning scheme?
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> %s/-i/-o/ ;  =( .. need some more coffeez
[17:57] <urlin2u> orated, I have no idea.
[17:58] <tables> zykotick9, i don't know how to transfer files to mp4 with it
[17:58] <DrPoO> I have several computers using Ubuntu and I would like to be able to share files across them. What would you recommend using? NFS? WebDAV?
[17:58] <tables> ipod compatible mp4
[17:58] <iceroot> pikaciu: sorry you still dont get what i need but thank you
[17:58] <zykotick9> tables, try Handbrake - there is a PPA (use "/msg ubottu PPA" for info on PPAs)
[17:58] <thelarrousse> hi
[17:58] <tables> k
[17:59] <usuario> hi I just
[17:59] <thelarrousse> hi everybody
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> i collect old larousse's
[17:59] <urthmover> urlin2u: it's a nvidia pci fx5200
[17:59] <urlin2u> orated, there is a mod at the ubuntu forums quite familiar with this stuff that is on everyday posting there would be a way to go.
[17:59] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | urthmover
[18:00] <urthmover> urlin2u: I have tried to disable https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Nouveau#Disabling_nouveau  and have compiled and installed the proprietary nvidia drivers
[18:00] <urlin2u> urthmover, try the nomodeset options in the links
[18:00] <thelarrousse> xd
[18:00] <urthmover> urlin2u: ok trying that now
[18:00] <usuario> upgraded to latest ubuntu and only have access to it via vncserver, and I think this is the unity thinbg but it does not give me a program menu, I successfully ran "xhost +" then "export DISPLAY=:1" and opened up a terminal on GUI, but how can I get a menu? right click on the top bar does not respond, and there is no side bar :s
[18:01] <urlin2u> urthmover, that is the full extent of my experience very little with cards, nomodeset is just a low graphic boot
[18:01] <urthmover> urlin2u: ok thanks
[18:01] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to install PIL within a virtualenv.  I'm getting "ZLIB (PNG/ZIP) support not available".  Does anyone know what packages I need in ubuntu to support this?
[18:02] <savid> I have zlib1g-dev installed.  Thought that was it, but PIL isn't seeing it.
[18:02] <zykotick9> urlin2u, well, nomodeset isn't really "low graphics boot"... it doesn't use KMS(or KMV) kernel drivers really
[18:02] <trism> savid: you should probably mention you're installing it with pip, since zlib1g-dev is the correct package, so the problem is actually that pip isn't finding it it seems
[18:03] <tables> zykotick9, the PPA doesn't work
[18:03] <savid> doh, meant to type that in #pip
[18:03] <zykotick9> tables, that's too bad.  Well, best of luck.
[18:03] <urlin2u> zykotick9, cool as I said I know very little in this amongst many other areas. :D
[18:03] <tables> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:03] <tables>  handbrake-gtk : Depends: libnotify1 (>= 0.5.0) but it is not installable
[18:03] <tables>                  Depends: libnotify1-gtk2.10
[18:03] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:03] <Chaz6> Hi there, I have a problem with flashplugin-installer
[18:03] <Chaz6> --2011-11-21 18:02:57--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.0.1.152.orig.tar.gz
[18:03] <thelarrousse> this chat, is to help about ubuntu?
[18:03] <Chaz6> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[18:03] <Nisk_> Hello, how do you edit the start menu in Gnome Classic 3?
[18:03] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <urlin2u> thelarrousse, on occasion.
[18:04] <kllleE> i cant install mlt, i tried added kdenlives ppa but i got this error that it doesnt find it
[18:04] <iceroot> kllleE: stop the spam
[18:04] <FloodBot1> kllleE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <usuario> thelarousse yes
[18:04] <zykotick9> Chaz6, first try "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[18:04] <iceroot> kllleE: ppas are not supported, ask the maintainer of that ppa to add your ubuntu-version
[18:04] <thelarrousse> ok. very good urlin2u
[18:04] <Nisk_> Hello, how do you edit the start menu in Gnome Classic ?
[18:05] <Nisk_> Gnome Classic 3
[18:05] <Chaz6> zykotick9: great, thanks!
[18:05] <zykotick9> Does Gnome3 still use alacarte?  re: Nisk_
[18:05] <kllleE> UBUNTU SUCK DICK SOUSAGE ASSHOLE; IT REALLY SUCK DIIICK PENISE VIRGINA ASS LICKING GAY PORN STOMACH ASS HOLE; ALL UBUNTU DEVELOPER SUCK DICK; UNITY IS FREAKING BAD; AND SOFTWARE CENTER TOO DICK PENSIE VIRGINE BOOBS PORN ASSHOLE DICK!
[18:05] <thelarrousse> and here help about hacking?  ubuntu segurity?
[18:05] <iceroot> !ops | kllleE
[18:07] <sipior> kllleE: does your mom know you're using the computer?
[18:07] <Nisk_> Alacarte? re: zykotick9
[18:07] <thelarrousse> bye i have to go
[18:07] <thelarrousse> this is a good chat
[18:07] <scorinitron> what do you do if your kicked from a channel
[18:07] <scorinitron> XD
[18:08] <zykotick9> Nisk_, i was asking a question (on your behave), alacarte was the menu editor in gnome2, don't know if gnome3 uses it though - so i tried to ask the channel ;)
[18:08] <zykotick9> Nisk_, it seems to work - run "alacarte"
[18:09] <trism> savid: there is a thread about it in the forums, couple workarounds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751455
[18:09] <savid> trism,  found a project called "Pillow" which is a fork of PIP.  That seemed to work better.
[18:10] <Nisk_> Alacarte, Not installed
[18:10] <zykotick9> Nisk_, don't know then.  Good luck.
[18:10] <blackeyed> some one can help me, My system is not starting after automatic updates
[18:11] <abhinav_singh> how do i create symbolic link between directory   ln -s /data/logfiles logfiles     ... here /data/logfiles is a directory
[18:12] <blackeyed> my system is not starting after automatic updates, some one can help me?
[18:12] <zykotick9> abhinav_singh, if you're in the directory you want to create the link in (and want the link to be called logfiles) just "ln -s /data/logfiles" should work
[18:12] <_calum> I backed up an image file of Ubuntu in /dev/sda3. Ubuntu boots windows with its bootloader, windows is in /dev/sda2. I'm wiping a windows laptop with a zero fill. Should I restore Ubuntu first before installing the clean windows?
[18:13] <Osmodivs> Hello. I am trying to install the latest nVidia CudaToolkit in 11.10 64 bits. It needs gcc 4.0 and by default i have 4.6, so this page http://www.vectorfabrics.com/blog/item/cuda_4.0_on_ubuntu_11.04 says I need to make a script so ONLY the CudaToolkit uses this version of gcc, I am no programer as you can tell. Does this script needs a .sh extension or leave it as is?
[18:13] <diatomaceous> Hey all, I'm still trying to diagnose my video problems.  My new laptop has an AMD firepro M8900 GPU and after I initially installed ubuntu 11.10, everything worked great with the open-source drivers.  This morning, I did an apt-get update/upgrade and now it's extremely slow.  I tried fglrx but it's really broken for this card apparently - fonts were garbled and I couldn't use my HDMI out.  Help please!  I'd be happy if someone could help me undo the up
[18:14] <zebulon> hey, can anyone give me a hand installing 11.10? it freezes after the CUPS spooler init
[18:14] <diatomaceous> Hey all, I'm still trying to diagnose my video problems.  My new laptop has an AMD firepro M8900 GPU and after I initially installed ubuntu 11.10, everything worked great with the open-source drivers.
[18:14] <kisom> hey guys. does anyone here run a machine with a decent amount of http connections on a kernel version 3.0+? the kernel seems to send packets with sport and dport of 0.0.0.0 after a while. vanilla configuration, tried it on several machines and connections...
[18:14] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, convention says only binaries should be without extensions, but gnu/linux doesn't really care about extensions - so it should work, with or without the .sh
[18:15] <tables> zykotick9, how do i put these videos to my ipod?
[18:15] <tables> is there a itunes alternative?
[18:15] <trism> savid: glad you found a workaround. If you find you need PIL later, get the python-imaging source and debian/patches/01_multiarch_support.patch should be the fix you need to build zlib support (I should have looked closer earlier)
[18:15] <DrPoO> tables, an android device
[18:15] <Osmodivs> zykotick9: Ok, Thx. Now lets see if this thing works
[18:15] <zykotick9> tables, i have no idea.  there is some gtk-ipod or something along those lines.  I would never by an apple product myself.  good luck.
[18:16] <leonardo_> hi,i get this problem http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/745268/,vlc cant play .flv videos
[18:16] <blackeyed> If i got a PC with 4 core and 4 GB RAM, what did u recomend me, an Ubuntu 11.10 32 or 64 bits?
[18:16] <diatomaceous_> Er... I couldn't see updates to the chat room with pidgin.. did anyone reply to my essay on AMD graphics problems?
[18:16] <sipior> blackeyed: 64-bit.
[18:16] <leonardo_> if any person can help men i will happy(yes,i have a little english)
[18:16] <blackeyed> sipior: but i found the same aplications that in 32bit?
[18:16] <sipior> blackeyed: yes.
[18:17] <blackeyed> its stable?
[18:17] <_calum> if I restore my image of Ubuntu that was in /dev/sda3, will installing Windows after a zero fill of my laptop break the bootloader of ubuntu?
[18:17] <sipior> blackeyed: yes. it's 2011, use a 64-bit operating system.
[18:17] <zykotick9> tables, looks like the actual package i was thinking about is called gtkpod -- but no idea if it's current/works.
[18:17] <blackeyed> thank you
[18:17] <sipior> blackeyed: sure thing.
[18:18] <blackeyed> thank u
[18:19] <allowoverride> does anyone know of any process that uses fping as part of the default installed programs that run in the back ground or from time to time?
[18:19] <zykotick9> blackeyed, personally - with 4GB 64bit will be more hassle without a lot of reward (i do it mind you)
[18:19] <Osmodivs> zykotick9: You seem like a programer, so, please, can you tell me if something wrong might happens if I messed things up? Like the site says: "I found that the most convenient way to achieve this is to create two little gxx scripts that are executed instead of the /usr/bin/gxx ones. The scripts choose the right version of gxx based on the existence of an environment variable. I put these scripts in my ~/bin directory and placed them in my path before
[18:19] <Osmodivs> the /usr/bin entry." So,  he means I need to put this script file in /bin instead of /usr/bin. So the system always reads /bin before /usr/bin, Correct?
[18:19] <allowoverride> im running 10.04 LTS
[18:20] <sipior> zykotick9: that's nonsense. unless you count missing 20% of your installed ram as not a lot of reward.
[18:20] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, your assumption is wrong.  I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag ;)  Your gcc 4.6 vs 4.0 is WAY over my head.  Good luck.
[18:21] <zykotick9> sipior, and with 64bit using more memory the 32bit - will it even out?  I'm not sure.  And anyone who asks "should i run 32 or 64" should be pointed to 32.
[18:21] <saquib> k
[18:21] <sipior> zykotick9: no.
[18:21] <Osmodivs> dang
[18:21] <diatomaceous_> After doing a normal apt-get update/upgrade, the performance of X has dropped to being almost unusable with the open-source radeon drivers.  What should I do next?
[18:21] <allowoverride> reason is, i logged in and did a ps -ax and noticed fping was running, and i know i didnt set it to nor did i set a cron job for it. any thoughts?
[18:21] <sipior> zykotick9: 32-bit is dead, time to move on.
[18:21] <llutz> anyone hold a 64bit capable cpu shuold run amd64
[18:21] <iceroot> zykotick9: everyone should be pointed to amd64 if the cpu supports amd64
[18:21] <allowoverride> thanks
[18:22] <zykotick9> sipior, i run 64bit on ANYthing that supports 64bit - including my 1GB EEEPC, but for general use 32bit is still easier
[18:22] <iceroot> zykotick9: easier?
[18:22] <zykotick9> iceroot, canoncial's download page seems to disagree with you
[18:22] <llutz> zykotick9: what is easier with 32bit?
[18:22] <allowoverride> for example; /usr/bin/fping -C 20 -q -B1 -r1 -i10 localhost
[18:22] <zykotick9> llutz, running 32bit apps
[18:22] <surfdue> Can I for example take /bin/chmod and upload it to ftp for download?
[18:22] <iceroot> zykotick9: not everything canocial is doing is good/correct
[18:22] <surfdue> A modified version
[18:22] <_calum> I'm unsure which to do first on a laptop which is going to be zero filled (for new windows install). Should I first restore my Ubuntu image which had a bootloader for windows, or install windows first in case it will break Ubuntu?
[18:22] <sipior> zykotick9: allow me to join in the chorus of "easier?"
[18:22] <zykotick9> llutz, i was hoping multiarch would solve that issue (perhaps sometime it will)
[18:23] <allowoverride> thats a pretty defined fping... i think i may have some prog running i didnt load or use... at least that i know of, thats why i ask here...
[18:23] <f0rmat> spooge
[18:23] <zykotick9> iceroot, "not everything canocial is doing is good/correct" understatement of the day ;)
[18:24] <morris4> hi. updated to 11.10 and now trying to boot in recovery mode. it stops at "[      5.153623] generic-usb 0003:046D:C719.0004: input,hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech BT Mini-Receiver] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.3/input0". whats happening?
[18:24] <fellayaboy> how can i view gconf-editor on remote thru ssh?
[18:24] <iceroot> zykotick9: yes there are some decissions i disagree what they have done but i still think that they are doing a very good job
[18:24] <fellayaboy> is their a way to do that?
[18:25] <iceroot> fellayaboy: ssh -X and then start the app
[18:25] <fellayaboy> ok
[18:25] <iceroot> fellayaboy: connect to that host with ssh -X user@host
[18:25] <allowoverride> fping is running again, anyone know of a program that uses /usr/bin/fping -C 20 -q -B1 -r1 -i10 localhost  as part of some process part of its program
[18:25] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, FYI if you are using 11.10 it's dconf-editor i believe
[18:26] <allowoverride> im on public wifi
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: nagios?
[18:26] <fellayaboy> im using 11.04
[18:26] <iceroot> allowoverride: pstree will show you the parent
[18:26] <urlin2u> _calum, you have an image of ubuntu, the windows install will overwrite the mbr, install first in premade ntfs, if you don't want the 200 mib windows extra partition.
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> also true ^
[18:26] <allowoverride> hmmm... SolarisBoy let me see
[18:26] <allowoverride> iceroot: brb
[18:26] <allowoverride> cool
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: sure.. check pstree thats probably best also
[18:26] <allowoverride> its stopped running damn
[18:26] <allowoverride> missed it
[18:26] <iceroot> allowoverride: also "grep -r fping /etc/cron*" is a good way
[18:27] <allowoverride> iceroot: thanks
[18:27] <tommyvyo_> if I have a shell and i want to tail 3 different log files, is there a command to split the shell 3 ways and tail 3 different logs?
[18:27] <allowoverride> any suggestions are appreciated
[18:27] <arrrghhh> anyone use evolution?  my father is wanting to use ubuntu, and insists on having a thick client for email.  evolution is going haywire.  lost all his email, and he found some old file to import.  he imported it, and now his email is working sporadically...
[18:27] <iceroot> tommyvyo_: screen
[18:27] <allowoverride> i dont like stuff running not by my own hand lol
[18:27] <diatomaceous_> After doing a normal apt-get update/upgrade, the performance of X has dropped to being almost unusable with the open-source radeon drivers.  What should I do next?
[18:27] <_calum> urlin2u:So install windows 7 in a custom partition first, then restore my ubuntu image?
[18:27] <allowoverride> iceroot: nothing in cron thanks
[18:27] <tommyvyo_> iceroot: thank you
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride:
[18:27] <iceroot> allowoverride: then pstree is your friend
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> you can do something like watch "pstree" or something similar to find the process
[18:28] <Socky_> I am running Lucid, and I want to upgrade to 11.10  Do I have to upgrade to maverick > natty > oneric, or can I just go right to oneric
[18:28] <fellayaboy> thanks guys ssh -X worked great for me
[18:28] <urlin2u> _calum, that is waht I would do having windows as sda1 makes it easier to deal with from its disc if needed.
[18:28] <morris4> anybody? isnt that a weird behavior just stopping at some random point without any error message?
[18:28] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: does nagios use fping?
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> or watch ps auxwwwwww |grep fping,, which should list the PPID (parent PID)
[18:28] <allowoverride> lol
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: yes
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: yes
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: you have to do every release
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: in your case since it is being spawned/forked by something you can try watch
[18:28] <Socky_> iceroot: k
[18:28] <_calum> urlin2:Windows 7 creates an extra partition for system files though, can I put this in /sda1?
[18:28] <iceroot> Socky_: or wait until 12.04 which is like 10.04 an lts. which can be upgraded directly
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"
[18:28] <fellayaboy> in remote desktop what does it mean use host as an ssh tunnel
[18:29] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: no nagios on this box. in the past yes, but i did a full reinstall last week
[18:29] <urlin2u> _calum, you can put windows in one partition ith the pre built ntfs
[18:29] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: ohhh watch
[18:29] <urlin2u> with*
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride:  try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[18:29] <allowoverride> thanks!
[18:29] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: that will not show the parent
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> this is a loop that executes by default each 2 seconds,, you will need to keep an eye on it
[18:29] <allowoverride> i like that one liner ;)
[18:29] <_calum> urlin2u:By pre built ntfs you mean a partition I created and formatted as ntfs?
[18:29] <TK5791> hey everyone
[18:29] <Ryan-> HI
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: your right my bad
[18:30] <TK5791> does anyone know how to disable the login Keyring?
[18:30] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: e.g. when the parent is nagios, only pstree will show (and maybe some other bash-foo)
[18:30] <allowoverride> starbucks public wifi's are a little scary lol
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: do with ps -ef
[18:30] <iceroot> allowoverride: you are not using nagios?
[18:30] <allowoverride> anyone could be doing MIM anytime without fear from like the parking lot
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> hmmm
[18:30] <savid> This is going to sound like a weird question, but has anyone had issues viewing xkcd.com in chrome?   It always hangs up on me.  Happened on my old computer, too.
[18:30] <allowoverride> oh, -ef??
[18:30] <allowoverride> not auxwww
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> -ef shows my ppids
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> yes
[18:31] <allowoverride> so watch ps efauxwww|grep fping
[18:31] <TK5791> does anyone kn ow of a good site for Unity themes?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> ps -ef |grep fping
[18:31] <allowoverride> i could just leave in the aux right?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> watch ' try "watch 'ps auxwwww |grep fping'"'
[18:31] <allowoverride> just wondering
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> no
[18:31] <allowoverride> or is that to much
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> grrr
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> paste fail sorry
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> watch 'ps -ef |grep fping'
[18:31] <allowoverride> ill just run two terminal instances of watch
[18:32] <allowoverride> ok done. thanks for that h/up ;)
[18:32] <TK5791> so no one knows how to disable the login keyring
[18:32] <TK5791> ?
[18:32] <_calum> I believe you can delete the login keyring from /gnome/keyrings or something
[18:33] <james538227> hey, i have just created a new user on my ubuntu server but the bash is not the same as the root user i.e. doesnt have name@host in the command line, can anyone give any advice on how to fix this?
[18:34] <TK5791> _calum: I'm using Unity
[18:34] <zykotick9> james538227, next time use "adduser foo" instead.  Copy the files from /etc/skel to the users home dir.
[18:34] <llutz> james538227: configure PS1 in your .bashrc/.profile
[18:34] <phunyguy_work> james538227, copy and chown the /etc/skel folder contents
[18:34] <_calum> ahh, don't know for Unity, sorry :(
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: you may want to also |grep -v grep as it will show you yourself looking for this string also
[18:34] <llutz> james538227: check your shell, echo $SHELL
[18:34] <TK5791> I'm used to using Win XP
[18:34] <arrrghhh> TK5791, look for keyrings i guess?
[18:34] <diatomaceous_> Guys, I can't be the only one here using the open-source radeon drivers.. has no one else noticed extreme performance issues after this morning's update?
[18:34] <TK5791> so what if I wanted my programs folder... where could I locate it?
[18:34] <james538227> llutz, my shell is /bin/sh
[18:34] <zykotick9> TK5791, my recommendation is disable autologin then it won't be an issue
[18:35] <arrrghhh> TK5791, that's not a simple answer.  /bin is where most of your "programs" are.  or /usr/bin rather.
[18:35] <llutz> james538227: set your shell, use usermod
[18:35] <zykotick9> james538227, sh vs bash - big difference
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> iceroot:  i just monitored my box for some time "root     29291 29067  0 18:34 ?        00:00:00 /apps/IPsoft/IPmon/bin/fping -C 5 -i 5 -t 500 -p 300
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> " thats from "nagios"
[18:35] <TK5791> zykotick9: thanks, but that kind of defeats the object of an autologin
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> one of my monitoring boxes rather..
[18:36] <arrrghhh> TK5791, if you put in no password for the keyring initially, it'll never ask again -_-
[18:36] <TK5791> arrrghhh: thanks
[18:36] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: hm strange, dont know what "ipsoft" has to do with nagios
[18:36] <zykotick9> TK5791, so instead type your password for the keyring then...
[18:36] <_calum> the command dd  if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda will clear all data on my hd right?
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: thats is nagios
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> renamed
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> simply
[18:36] <iceroot> !danger
[18:36] <iceroot> _calum: yes
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> the check spawns fping,, but it is logged with a ppid
[18:36] <llutz> _calum: add a "bs=4k"
[18:36] <arrrghhh> lol
[18:36] <_calum> lol its not dangerous only if you do it wrong without backups
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: its nagios on speed per say...
[18:37] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: ok
[18:37] <TK5791> arrrghhh: too late for that
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> _calum: be sure that there are no partitions mounted on the drive too, you can be sure if you use liveCD
[18:37] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i assume you can clear it out, i don't know how that works in detail tho.
[18:37] <_calum> llutz:What will that do?
[18:37] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: good point
[18:37] <llutz> _calum: "speeds it up a bit"
[18:38] <TK5791> I had someone put this OS on my system and clearly they've set up this login keyring,
[18:38] <_calum> ahh ok, but it will still zero all data?
[18:38] <llutz> _calum: bigger blogsize than 512byte default will make it a bit faster.
[18:38] <_calum> its for my windows install see
[18:38] <TK5791> can anyone recommend a better Linux OS, :(
[18:38] <arrrghhh> TK5791, perhaps you should reinstall yourself?  might learn something too.
[18:38] <TK5791> Ubuntu is driving me nuts
[18:38] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i like ubuntu with gnome-session-fallback
[18:38] <llutz> _calum: yah, will do same job
[18:38] <arrrghhh> you're in #ubuntu -_-
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: thanks let me know if you get to the bottom of it whos spawning that command.. its weird its going against localhost like so...
[18:38] <zykotick9> TK5791, it's on by default - but if you login, it gets unlocked - if you have autologin it doesn't
[18:38] <_calum> ok thanks guys
[18:38] <TK5791> the menu bar on the left hand side sucks big time
[18:38] <diatomaceous_>  :(){:|:;}:
[18:39] <zykotick9> !notunity | TK5791
[18:39] <Pici> !danger
[18:39] <TK5791> I have no idea what Ubotto just said
[18:39] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: will do
[18:39] <arrrghhh> zykotick9, what about gnome-session-fallback?  that's what i put on both my rents computers.
[18:40] <allowoverride> zackly, very weird
[18:40] <_calum> hey why did that user get booted?
[18:40] <arrrghhh> TK5791, he was whispering sweet nothings in your ear
[18:40] <iceroot> _calum: forkbomb
[18:40] <_calum> ohhh, don't know what that is
[18:40] <iceroot> ah a different one
[18:40] <TK5791> arrrghhh: oh how exciting
[18:40] <arrrghhh> _calum, that command does bad things
[18:40] <_calum> ah
[18:40] <arrrghhh> TK5791, i can tell you're riveted
[18:40] <TK5791> :(
[18:41] <TK5791> arrrghhh: more like frustrated
[18:41] <arrrghhh> TK5791, if you don't like linux, no one is forcing you to use it
[18:41] <arrrghhh> i'm a big proponent of use what works best for you.
[18:41] <TK5791> I love the idea of open source, but this OS is killing me
[18:41] <ppetraki> Can someone triage this and get it assigned to a distro series? mterry has already verified it but I need someone with more authority to move it to the next level: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/891707
[18:41] <llutz> _calum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[18:41] <arrrghhh> i would NEVER force anything upon a user.  unless it's a work, that's different :D
[18:41] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: yah there are like 15 people here with laptops, a few look a little shady lol
[18:41] <zykotick9> TK5791, Ubuntu is only one distro - there are many others
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  i do'nt like unity, so i switched to a different fork
[18:42] <TK5791> distro?
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> for someone to ping localhost it implies they are on your box
[18:42] <james538227> llutz, cheers dude, worked a treat :)
[18:42] <TK5791> sorry I'm a complete noob
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, distribution.  ubuntu is a distribution of linux.
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> else,, it does imply some shady business... im more convinced you just have a  weird application/script running or something
[18:42] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: who and w show two of my user logged in, before opening seperate terms to monitor with watch...
[18:42] <TK5791> ok, so what does one suggest?
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, that's fine.  searching&reading is your best friend.
[18:42] <arrrghhh> ^^
[18:42] <TK5791> stick with this or try something more user friendly?
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: what tty are they on?
[18:42] <allowoverride> 1 tty and 3 pts/0/1/2
[18:42] <arrrghhh> TK5791, ubuntu is pretty user-friendly.
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: and what tty are you on?
[18:42] <arrrghhh> as far as linux distro's go.
[18:43] <_calum> ohhh its a denial of servive attack
[18:43] <_calum> c*]
[18:43] <TK5791> believe me I have been searching... and reading... my brain aches
[18:43] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: if you have more than one console/tty open this can appear to be the case sometimes
[18:43] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i believe im only on tty7 with gui
[18:43] <iceroot> _calum: its just an endless-loop as recursion
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  i switched to the most-hated ubuntu fork
[18:43] <zykotick9> TK5791, turning off autologin will solve your keyring issue - problem solved.
[18:43] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i already checked with single user mode cnt-alt F1/F9, no one there
[18:44] <atruno> my intel sound is detected by lspci but it is not detected by gnome volume control.  it had worked normally in the past.
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: weird
[18:44] <allowoverride> maybe im over reacting security wise, but still need to find what prog with pstree it's spawning from... it seems to have stopped
[18:44] <TK5791> zykotick9: ok I've turned it off... not exactly the solution I was looking for
[18:44] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: how can i check with service command all running services
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: you can also check what installed fping.. it may give a clue
[18:45] <allowoverride> ex: sudo service info?
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: service --status-all
[18:45] <allowoverride> ah. thanks
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> prepend sudo also =)
[18:45] <TK5791> but I guess until this version of Ubuntu is updated frustration is the name of the game
[18:45] <SolarisBoy> i think upstart / initctl has a way also.. but that should suffice for now
[18:45] <allowoverride> so a "+" means its running,
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> yes believe so
[18:46] <TK5791> anyone know how to reset my profile in Google Chrome... its not loading correctly?
[18:46] <allowoverride> grep "+" highlights it
[18:46] <_calum> the safest bet then is to Zero fill from an Ubuntu live loaded into RAM
[18:46] <allowoverride> awww, there it is,,, it may be smokeping
[18:46] <allowoverride> lol
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: heck yea dude
[18:46] <SolarisBoy> thats exactly what it is
[18:46] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i didnt know that was running, i believe i ran that a few weeks ago
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> sometimes services have a wacky way of checking them selves into startup when they know they should be
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> *shouldn't*
[18:47] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: i believe i was testing that on my local net a month ago or less
[18:47] <allowoverride> sheshh
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> makes sense
[18:48] <TK5791> Google Chrome, anyone know how to reset a profile that is corrupted?
[18:48] <allowoverride> yap;) thanks for those cmds, those will help later the grep -v grep especially
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> anytime sir
[18:48] <allowoverride> SolarisBoy: When you call smokeping without
[18:48] <allowoverride>        arguments it will start as a daemon and do its work.
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> interesting,, i recall using it once or twice in the past probably not for anything serious
[18:49] <allowoverride> ok how to kill that so it doesnt start up at boot, BUT remains as a service so i dont have to reload it again,, updaterc? something
[18:49] <_calum> thanks guys
[18:49] <allowoverride> im still new to deb/ubuntu services, i come from redhat
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: i as well =)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: im actually still having bad muscle memory from other distros or even OS... like typing cfgadm -al on ubuntu boxes
[18:50] <allowoverride> i believe its update-rc.d something force yadda enable/disable
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> neva good =)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> allowoverride: correct
[18:50] <Tidals> allowoverride› may i ask why you're moving from RH to deb/ubuntu?
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> or remove i believe
[18:51] <allowoverride> another way to see whats running / cheap way / is sudo update-rc.d then hit tab tab
[18:51] <Socky_> Is there anything like speedtest.net for servers without xwindows?
[18:51] <llutz> allowoverride: use sysv-rc-conf to en-/disable services, update-rc.d has some glitches
[18:52] <happygolucky> I like using a live USB however when I always have to run drivers for my graphics card on startup--other than just putting the drivers on the USB and running the installation is there a way to sort of 'remake' the USB live with modifications?
[18:52] <happygolucky> omit when, sorry..
[18:52] <allowoverride> llutz: well that puzzles me as i cannot tell for certain yet which are sysv or converts to upstart lol
[18:52] <allowoverride> llutz: is sysv in /etc? the conf
[18:52] <llutz> allowoverride: works with both
[18:53] <allowoverride> yah thats the confusing part, the devs should just use one
[18:53] <llutz> allowoverride: name is confusing, yes
[18:54] <Xase_> Wow...
[18:54] <Xase_> This is the quietest it's ever been in here I think.
[18:55] <allowoverride> i believe this is howto; first sudo update-rc.d -f smokeping remove, than if you want it back sudo update-rc.d smokeping defaults
[18:55] <allowoverride> yep thats it
[18:55] <happygolucky> specifically say I wanted to freshest installation of live could I load up the live version, apt-get upgrade, then put all that back into the live USB so I dont have to do it over and over again
[18:55] <allowoverride> nifty;)
[18:55] <allowoverride> welp that solves that miserymystery
[18:55] <happygolucky> and how, if it's possible
[18:56] <llutz> allowoverride: some package updates will restore the rcX.d links, you have to track that. read "man update-rc.d"
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: really?
[18:56] <allowoverride> at reboot?
[18:56] <llutz> allowoverride: package-updates, not reboot
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: is that some kind of failsafe
[18:56] <allowoverride> ohhhhh ok
[18:56] <allowoverride> llutz: gotcha
[18:58] <tyler_d> weeee
[18:59] <phunyguy_work> Can anyone tell me where in libvirt you would set the dns suffix for guest VMs?
[18:59] <allowoverride> interesting, i just did a tracepath from this att wifi net at startbucks to one of my doms at my Gnet, and these wayport networks must be a total priv net,,,
[18:59] <JHHH> How do I set up a wireless printer on Ubuntu?
[19:00] <m1ck3y> Hello all, I just recently updated Ubuntu to the latest version and now I'm having a lot of problems with it. I have a dual booted machine, grub loads fine, when I select ubuntu it freezes at the loading screen. But in recovery mode I can browse all my files I just can't start X.
[19:00] <allowoverride> the switch fab i mean. no replies at all to any hop... wow.
[19:01] <tyler_d> m1ck3y: sounds like your grub has been missconfigured; I apologize but I know very little about it however would start there :s
[19:01] <allowoverride> someone told me a while back ifconfig was deprecated, and to use ip, is this true for ubuntu? or linux in general?
[19:02] <tyler_d> allowoverride: this is true all over
[19:02] <allowoverride> tyler_d: i use gui to setup ip's and such with NetworkManager, so I am outta the loop for cmdline other than bringing interfaces ifup/ifdown...
[19:03] <tyler_d> allowoverride: if you are at starbucks your through a forced portal, which means your assumption is correct, its all nat traffic to the real world
[19:03] <tyler_d> allowoverride: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: thats what im thinking... typicall a tracepath will show more than no reply
[19:04] <Socky_> If I am doing a dist-upgrade and Im getting slow speeds of 200k, when I am able to push over 1600K is there a way to safely stop the dist-upgrade and switch to a new server to download the upgrade from
[19:04] <tyler_d> allowoverride: I work at one of "those" companies supporting the software :p so yah
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: oh, just trying to see my gnet at home  (gnet= GarageNet)
[19:04] <allowoverride> tyler_d: tell me a bit more then :)
[19:04] <tyler_d> allowoverride: what protocol / port are you trying to get to?
[19:04] <allowoverride> 22
[19:05] <Xase_> Man Unity is wack... http://goo.gl/hz377
[19:05] <mang0> Just a quick one; debian also uses "sudo apt-get install xxxxx" right? Like ubuntu. Not pacman or anything...
[19:05] <allowoverride> actually i dont have port forward to my box though, i forgot, but i would like to try and hit my network iwth ubuntu utils today
[19:05] <Xase_> Can I get help with SuSE linux here?! http://goo.gl/hz377
[19:05] <allowoverride> i have openvas server loaded
[19:05] <Xase_> OMFG
[19:05] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:05] <Xase_> KERNEL THIS
[19:05] <oCean> Xase_: stop that
[19:05] <tyler_d> allowoverride: can you telnet to your ip/port? is that http? ftp?
[19:05] <allowoverride> nope
[19:05] <JHHH> How do I install my Epson printer wirelessly on Ubuntu?
[19:06] <onre> mang0, yes, it does. apt-get and dpkg and deb package format all come originally from debian.
[19:06] <allowoverride> its a jinksys router hanging off my isp modem
[19:06] <mang0> onre: more thinking of the "sudo" ?
[19:06] <tyler_d> allowoverride: so your trying to hit it on the default 8080 on https?
[19:06] <allowoverride> there are plenty of ways around that, im sure, as i get lots of traffic to my ubuntu server and freebsd server often enough to fill up logs from time to time lol
[19:06] <onre> mang0, 'sudo' is a general unix utility, it works on just about every unix and unix-like system out there
[19:06] <allowoverride> tyler_d:  most likely, whatever openvas will do
[19:07] <allowoverride> hehe, i just noticed your nick,,, fight club.. awesome!
[19:07] <onre> mang0, it's not installed by default on all distributions but can be installed on just about all of them
[19:07] <tyler_d> allowoverride: lol, well "if" its done the way our software is then nothing is blocked... so its all based on your server
[19:07] <allowoverride> << mine is in reference to apache configs :P sorta
[19:07] <allowoverride> tyler_d: ic
[19:07] <tyler_d> allowoverride: throw me more info and I will tell you if its open or not :p
[19:07] <allowoverride> lol
[19:08] <allowoverride> brb stand by.. be a few
[19:08] <tyler_d> allowoverride: k
[19:08] <m1ck3y> Can someone help me get Ubuntu started? It won't start ever since I updated to the latest version.
[19:08] <tyler_d> m1ck3y: did you check your grub settings for hd 0,0 etc?
[19:09] <m1ck3y> tyler_d: I don't know how to do that

[19:09] <tyler_d> yeeees
 Do you know about installing wireless printers on ubuntu
?
[19:12] <tyler_d> JHHH: 2 secs please mang
 sorry
[19:15] <Thetawaves> is there a way to get a kernel with the DEBUG options set?
[19:15] <Thetawaves> without compiling my own
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> sounds like a developper question
[19:17] <saint_darkangel> ben özel konuşamıyorum,
[19:17] <saint_darkangel> nasıl konuşurum,
[19:17] <saint_darkangel> yardımcı olabilirmisiniz
[19:17] <saint_darkangel> ?
[19:17] <szal> !tr | saint_darkangel
[19:18] <saint_darkangel> :(
[19:18] <Thetawaves> MonkeyDust, is there another developer channel?
[19:18] <saint_darkangel> please
[19:18] <saint_darkangel> !!!
[19:18] <oCean> saint_darkangel: english only
[19:19] <Myrtti> !tr | saint_darkangel
[19:19] <Thetawaves> alright fine i'll compile my own
[19:20] <llutz> Thetawaves: maybe more chance in #ubuntu-devel
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Thetawaves  "#ubuntu-devel Channel is open."
[19:22] <tyler_d> JHHH: sorry, waht are we breaking now
[19:22] <ssta> Thetawaves: I suspect you'll have to compile your own.  kernel-package takes a lot of the heartache out of it though
 Do you know how to set up a wireless printer?
[19:23] <Thetawaves> ssta, i remember the old way to do it
[19:23] <tyler_d> JHHH: I have done network printers, not wireless though
[19:23] <ssta> Thetawaves: kernel-package makes life easier...seriously
[19:23] <Thetawaves> ssta, there is a lot of different stuff now.. following this: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2011/10/28/how-to-compile-a-new-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-kernel/
[19:23] <tyler_d> JHHH: conceptually if you can see it is connected to the AP, or router via the gui(router's gui that is) then you should simply be able to add it by ip address
 its an epson sx235w. completely new. Any idea how I can set it up as a network printer
 NB I'm a newb
[19:24] <Thetawaves> i used to just downloaded the latest tar.bz2 and compile
[19:24] <tyler_d> JHHH: I would suggest starting with the configuration via the fine manual that came with teh printer
[19:24] <TK5791> Can anyone help with Google Chrome?
[19:24] <tyler_d> JHHH: its problematic as its out of scope for this channel.. a pain I am sure :(
 any ideas of otherr channels?
[19:25] <tyler_d> JHHH: I think my best suggestion honestly is to read the manuals on the printer and router to get them playing nicely; then you would be within scope on getting the Ubuntu side done
[19:25] <tyler_d> :(
 cheers
[19:28] <saquib> m
[19:28] <b0ot> Anyone know how I can fix this: snmpwalk: error while loading shared libraries: libnetsnmp.so.25: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:32] <ugly_duck> Hmm... hi everyone, just applied some upgraded, now my cursor is playing up, appears in programs like libre office suit, but not in xchat etc
[19:36] <santiago_> hola
[19:37] <reisio> santiago_: shalom
[19:37] <urthmover> high yah
[19:39] <Varazir> How do I restart Unity from a consol ?
[19:39] <shivamib> i think its restart lightdm
[19:40] <Metroshica> I'm trying to set up a ubuntu repository for 11.04 for 64 bit. I"m not sure which sources to use. Everything I see online is different. Do I need to include the deb-src indexes as well? What are they even for? If I include them, the repository is 80 gb, which seems huge. And should I put deb in front of the indexes in the config file, or deb-amd64?
[19:42] <rejeep> Hey, after an update of grub I can not start the computer and I cannot reach any terminal... What can I do?
[19:44] <Lantizia> !nopaste
[19:44] <Lantizia> !paste
[19:44] <soreau> rejeep: restore it from a live session
[19:44] <soreau> ! grub2 | rejeep
[19:44] <rejeep> I'll try, thanks!
[19:45] <Morfeus^> Hello all!
[19:46] <ntr0py> How would i replace an existing package?
[19:46] <jrib> ntr0py: be more specfiic
[19:47] <moonlightcheese> so i'm having issues with a c program i've written that takes streaming data over serial.  the pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/RxCMmG9h  when i uncomment the printf() debug lines i can see that execution stops on the first read call (ie, "connected, starting loop" and "flushing buffer" appear.  i've tried commenting out the tcflush to eliminate is as an issue and the read never occurs)
[19:48] <ntr0py> jrib: i want to replace a package (nginx-full) with another package i locally compiles (nginx-extras): problem is that other packages already installed depend on nginx
[19:48] <benfalk_> exit
[19:48] <moonlightcheese> the serial port should be connected on /dev/ttymxc0
[19:48] <jrib> ntr0py: why did you not name it the same/
[19:49] <moonlightcheese> executing 'setserial /dev/ttymxc0' shows '/dev/ttymxc0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x0000, IRQ: 31
[19:49] <TK5791> anyone know how to fix problems with Google Chrome?
[19:49] <moonlightcheese> any serial experts around?  :/
[19:49] <alex-> I got a problem with wireless internet at school, when I connect to the router it's connecting, and then it says 'disconnected, you are now offline'. I'm running ubuntu 11.04 with the gnome 2.0 interface. The only way to get internet is to reboot into windows, make the connection there, reboot into ubuntu, connect to the network. But when I put my laptop in stand-by I have to do this stuff...
[19:49] <alex-> ...again to make it work. Isn't there any easy way to make it work/
[19:50] <ntr0py> jrib: it has not the same name and i cannot install it in parallel nor can i remove the existing package because it has dependencies: there must be a way to replace an existing package with another one...
[19:50] <jrib> ntr0py: I am asking you why did you not name it the same/
[19:50] <Metroshica> I'm trying to set up a ubuntu repository for 11.04 for 64 bit. I"m not sure which sources to use. Everything I see online is different. Do I need to include the deb-src indexes as well? What are they even for? If I include them, the repository is 80 gb, which seems huge. And should I put deb in front of the indexes in the config file, or deb-amd64?
[19:50] <anra> TK5791: which kind of problem do you have?
[19:51] <mang0> jacob@ubuntujacob:~$ bzr branch lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel web2py Woul that command run forever, or only untill something has downloaded?
[19:51] <CloudQc> I completely fucked up my machine. It says sudo must be setuid root after I did a chown root:admin .
[19:51] <CloudQc> how do I unbreak it?
[19:51] <ntr0py> jrib: i could name it the same, but that would be ugly because its correct name is another.
[19:52] <TK5791> anra: thank you. when loading the browser I get the following error message "Your profile could not be opened correctly"
[19:52] <Tm_T> CloudQc: language, please
[19:52] <jrib> ntr0py: I don't understand.  Is this not just a different version of the same package?
[19:52] <ISBB> anyone familiar with xinerama and nvidia setups?
[19:52] <mang0> !language | CloudQc
[19:52] <anra> TK5791: hmm, did you have something important there that you don't want to lose?
[19:53] <zykotick9> ISBB, nvidia's version os xinerama is called twinview - you can typically setup dual monitors in nvidia-settings.  What are you having issues with?
[19:53] <nDuff> I'm running a dual-core system with Ubuntu's 3.0.0-12-generic kernel, and only one of my 2 cores is showing up in /proc/cpuinfo (and htop). Expected?
[19:53] <ntr0py> jrib: no its nginx-extras with a newer version (it has more modules compiled in) vs the installed nginx-full (older version with fewer modules), it has different names but provides the same functionality according to dependencies
[19:54] <TK5791> anra: not really... when I first launched the browser I sync Google and it worked well but for some reason it gone a little hayware
[19:54] <jrib> ntr0py: seems strange, but I don't have time to fully understand.  You can accomplish what you asked using the Provides keyword (see debian-policy manual)
[19:54] <genii-around> CloudQc: What directory did you run the chown in? /usr/bin or something?
[19:54] <ntr0py> Is it possible to disable any dependencies functionality from dpkg?
[19:54] <jrib> ntr0py: you would never want to do that
[19:55] <ISBB> zykotick9, xinerama is running spans 3 monitors great.. however im having issues with setting a default monitor.  I.E. screen0 is default, screen 1 is left of 0 and screen 2 is right of 0 sounds all great and dandy.  However xinerama wants to make screen 1 default menu bar's panels so on and so forth.  funny thing when i log in its setup perfect.  Login screen is screen 0 and cursor left and right works great. i cant seem to get xinerama to
[19:55] <ISBB> play nice by setting screen 0 to default
[19:55] <CloudQc> oh umm / (yeah it chmod usr/bin too - the whole system)
[19:55] <ISBB> running xubuntu 11.10 btw
[19:55] <anra> TK5791: okay, if you don't mind losing your stuff (at least temporarily) I guess the easiest solution would be to move your config folder
[19:55] <ntr0py> jrib: i need it right not because dpkg it not intelligent enough to understand
[19:55] <ntr0py> *now
[19:55] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to setup ssh and when I goto /root/.ssh/config it doesn't find anything.  How come?
[19:55] <TK5791> anra: ok, how so?
[19:56] <jrib> ntr0py: huh?  I just told you how to make one package "provide" another one
[19:56] <TK5791> if I move it will it create a new one?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: what are you trying to achieve?
[19:56] <anra> yes
[19:56] <zykotick9> ISBB, i've only ever used the nivida-settings tool to set the default monitor, not sure how it's dealt with on actual xinerama installations.  Good luck.
[19:56] <llutz> ShawnRisk: personal config file doesn''t exist by default
[19:56] <anra> just open the file manager
[19:56] <anra> press Ctrl + H
[19:56] <anra> to display hidden files
[19:56] <anra> go to .config then
[19:56] <ISBB> xinerama is part of nvidia.. you can only set default monitor under twinview
[19:56] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: http://notbrainsurgery.livejournal.com/39281.html
[19:56] <ISBB> PITA i say
[19:56] <anra> a you'll see a folder called 'chromium' or 'chrome'
[19:56] <alex-> anyone?
[19:57] <anra> then rename it to be safe
[19:57] <reisio> alex-: I'm a one
[19:57] <TK5791> file manager?
[19:57] <anra> and open the browser
[19:57] <anra> nautilus
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: did you generate the key?
[19:57] <genii-around> CloudQc: There's no real coming back from that.
[19:57] <Varazir> when I do a dist-upgrade it will upgrade grub and as I'm PXE booting I don't like to have them
[19:57] <ShawnRisk> llutz: when I tried to create this in nano it wouldn't let me as this didn't exist
[19:58] <alex-> I got a problem with wireless internet at school, when I connect to the router it's connecting, and then it says 'disconnected, you are now offline'. I'm running ubuntu 11.04 with the gnome 2.0 interface. The only way to get internet is to reboot into windows, make the connection there, reboot into ubuntu, connect to the network. But when I put my laptop in stand-by I have to do this stuff...
[19:58] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: yes on step 2
[19:58] <Varazir> tried purge grub-common but still it will upgrade
[19:58] <alex-> ...again to make it work. Isn't there any easy way to make it work?
[19:58] <ntr0py> jrib: can i somehow just deinstall nginx-full ignoring all dependencies?
[19:58] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: but didn't create ./ssh folder
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: ok then put it in your user's ~/.ssh directory
[19:58] <jrib> ntr0py: you would never want to do that...
[19:59] <llutz> ShawnRisk: you shouldn't ssh as root at all, use users ssh-config
[19:59] <ntr0py> jrib: i need exactly that right now
[19:59] <TK5791> anra: I'm completely clueless.... and very frustrated... I thought open source was supposed to be user friendly, but in reality its terrible
[19:59] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: how so?
[20:00] <jrib> ntr0py: no you don't.  You need to fix how you created your package.  If you want to ignore my advice, use equivs (you should just fix your package) or one of the force flags to dpkg (this will leave your system in a broken state)
[20:00] <llutz> ShawnRisk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238672
[20:00] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, lol Open Source is not really user friendly there is a high learning curve in most cases
[20:00] <TK5791> you need to be some sort of computer nut to understand any of this
[20:00] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, sort of
[20:00] <anra> TK5791: don't worry
[20:00] <anra> I'll help you
[20:00] <llutz> ShawnRisk: that is a much better way to backup remote-servers using rsync
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: its the same in Windows
[20:00] <Varazir> No one ?
[20:00] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, Computers and programming is really not easy stuff anyway
[20:00] <Varazir> how do I ignore a update ?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: just because you are doing mildly administritive stuff doesn't make it hard
[20:00] <anra> just to be sure, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[20:01] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, Microsoft just gave us the illusion of user friendly computers and software
[20:01] <TK5791> tell me about it
[20:01] <Varazir> <-- 11.10
[20:01] <skrite> hey all ,  i have a web directory that i need my regular user to write images to, but the www-data user to be able to read them and serve them on the internet. How do i go about doing that?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: if youo rename the config folders for chrome or firefox in Windows in you windows profile folder, it does the same thing
[20:01] <TK5791> I just the file system very confusing.... I haven't played with Command Prompt (terminal) for years
[20:02] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, User friendliness is all an ILLUSION
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: make the folder.    mkdir ~/.ssh
[20:02] <Quantum_Ion> Like you can PUSH a MAGIC BUTTON and get INSTANT PUDDING
[20:02] <anra> TK5791: you don't need to do it through the terminal
[20:02] <TK5791> not to knock this stuff.... but at least I can find the folder where all the software is stored
[20:02] <reisio> Quantum_Ion: and now I want pudding, thanks a lot...
[20:02] <Quantum_Ion> reisio, lol
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: ~/.mozilla    holds all the config folders for all mozilla products, you will have a firefox folder and a thunderbird folder. Doesn't get more logical than that
[20:03] <Kentrel> My system seems to slow down after it's been on for a week or so. Gnome-system-monitor doesn't really show any likely culprits. Any other ideas?
[20:03] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: in where /home/share or /root?
[20:03] <WindPower> ~ is home
[20:03] <TK5791> ActionParsnip: thanks but I'm referring to Chrome... I don't use Firefox
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: your user, not root
[20:03] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, I remember the DOS days on my IBM PCjr
[20:03] <ShawnRisk> llutz: I see that thread but which folder am I in when I do ssh-keygen?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: ~/.config/chromium
[20:04] <TK5791> don't use Chromium... I use Chrome
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: so you can run:   mv ~/.config/chromium ~/.config/chromium_old
[20:04] <llutz> ShawnRisk: your $HOME, theres no need to use /root at all
[20:04] <ShawnRisk> okay
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: same folder afaik
[20:04] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, i'm guessing the OP is using google-chrome, not chromium (i could be wrong)
[20:05] <Quantum_Ion> TK5791, The great thing about Linux is basically all your development tools are FREE but you just have to figure out how to use them
[20:05] <llutz> ShawnRisk: better to use forced-commands only, http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: or you may find ~/.config/google-chrome/
[20:06] <ShawnRisk> okay
[20:06] <CloudQc> does ubuntu have any VMs so I can test what happens when... without having to reformat?
[20:06] <tyler_d> CloudQc: you can go ahead and install some vm's using vbox
[20:06] <bekks> CloudQc: You have to create your own vm.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> CloudQc: or qemu or vmware, virtualbox is quite simple
[20:07] <Pessimism> I have `postinstall` file for an DotCloud project. I have run `chmod +x postinstall`, but DotCloud still gives me: "Warning. postinstall file exists, but it is not executable." What am I doing wrong?
[20:08] <ntr0py> jrib: "sudo dpkg -P --force-all nginx-full" did the trick, thanks anyways
[20:08] <CloudQc> Also - I have a 64 bit machine so I installed 64bit ubuntu the first time. However, the interface is slow to react, is that normal or should I just reinstall it in 32bit since im reformatting right now
[20:08] <mang0> bzr branch lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel web2py I ran that command in terminal, and it's taking foreeever to download. is this usual, or is it my net, or is it just never going to finish?
[20:08] <trshhs> I have an issue with grub2 on my headless server. Sometimes a reboot requires interaction/keyboard. What can the cause be?
[20:09] <zykotick9> CloudQc, your graphics card probably makes more of a difference then the CPU bits
[20:09] <Quantum_Ion> CloudQc, I would use an LTS release 64bit for stability
[20:09] <TK5791> ActionParsnip
[20:09] <Quantum_Ion> CloudQc, For example 10.04 Ubuntu Linux LTS 64bit but thats just me
[20:09] <TK5791> ActionParsnip: thanks
[20:10] <Quantum_Ion> CloudQc, LTS equals Long Term Stable
[20:10] <reisio> trshhs: what sort of interaction
[20:10] <zykotick9> Quantum_Ion, close - Long Term Support ;)
[20:11] <genii-around> Pessimism: What does the first line of the file contain? eg: Is it a shebang pointing to what program to use to run it, or is it something else
[20:11] <Pessimism> genii-around: `#!/bin/sh`
[20:11] <CloudQc> Is there a huge difference between 32b and 64b anyways? vid card is nvidia 8800 gt
[20:11] <geoffmcc> TK5791: if you are having problems with chrome profile still go to /home/user/.config and delete the chromium folder and then open browser and will recreate profile
[20:12] <zykotick9> CloudQc, same vid card as mine - have you install nvidia-current from the ubuntu driver thing?
[20:12] <Quantum_Ion> zykotick9, right supposedly those LTS releases are supposed to be the most stable
[20:12] <trshhs> reisio: I need to press enter, timeout is not working. First i thought it is related to kernelupdates but it appears more unpredictable
[20:13] <reisio> CloudQc: not "huge", no, but large
[20:13] <reisio> trshhs: GRUB's timeout?
[20:13] <zykotick9> CloudQc, if you have 4+ GB RAM use 64bit, if you have less - it's up to you
[20:13] <CloudQc> I suppose since I havent gone to nvidia to download some
[20:13] <tyler_d> CloudQc: do not do that
[20:13] <reisio> CloudQc: you shouldn't have to have "gone to nvidia" with Linux
[20:13] <zykotick9> CloudQc, don't download from nvidia - use the ubuntu method
[20:13] <tyler_d> CloudQc: quick way to borq your system
[20:14] <reisio> CloudQc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:14] <CloudQc> I said... I havent - I did not go I used the Ubuntu thing
[20:14] <bobweaver> tes
[20:14] <bobweaver> srry wrng channel
[20:14] <tyler_d> love how we all speak up as soon as he said that
[20:15] <genii-around> tyler_d: I'm not sure how it could bork up their system more than the chown command they already ran on their /
[20:15] <tyler_d> he heh e
[20:15] <trshhs> reisio: yes, usually it works and i can reboot the server remotely, sometimes grub2 just stops. Might just want to replace it with lilo...
[20:16] <nameNick> Got a question for you all concerning Ubuntu Server with KVM - is KVM stable enough for production environment
[20:17] <nameNick> with windows server guests
[20:17] <zykotick9> nameNick, might want to re-ask that in #kvm
[20:17] <tyler_d> nameNick: kvm?.... as in a kvm switch?
[20:17] <zykotick9> nameNick, or are you using libvirt?  different channel if you do.
[20:17] <bekks> tyler_d: No.
[20:17] <nameNick> libvirt
[20:17] <tyler_d> k, I'm thinking what?
[20:17] <allowoverride> im out, bbiab l8
[20:18] <zykotick9> nameNick, libvirt/virt-manager support is #virt on irc.oftc.net
[20:18] <nameNick> thanks
[20:19] <jjg> hi all, new to ubuntu and am having trouble getting name based hosts up .. how can I get my environment to pick up /etc/apache2/envvars so that I can run apache -S ?
[20:20] <jjg> nm, apparently I just export them in my shell
[20:20] <jrib> jjg: you should use « apache2ctl -S »
[20:20] <jjg> jrib: thanks
[20:20] <Pessimism> genii-around: Did you have any suggestions for what might have caused the problem?
[20:21] <tyler_d> I'm outta here. maybe bbiab
[20:21] <tyler_d> :)
[20:21] <tyler_d> \q
[20:22] <CloudQc> so the main diff between LTS and non-LTS is that a non-LTS can be dropped from support anytime?
[20:22] <jrib> CloudQc: no...
[20:22] <jrib> !lts | CloudQc
[20:22] <genii-around> Pessimism: Not offhand. I'm not familiar with the dotcloud
[20:22] <jrib> CloudQc: non-lts is supported 18 months
[20:23] <CloudQc> so after 18months you have to reformat? Or are there just upgrades to a new 18 month supported version?
[20:23] <jrib> CloudQc: you can upgrade
[20:23] <jrib> !upgrade | CloudQc
[20:23] <jrib> CloudQc: every 6 months there is a new release you can upgrade to.  Alternatively, you can stay on LTS only and upgrade every 2 years
[20:24] <jjg> this is probably an apache channel question .. BUT I can hit my vhosted page locally using lynx .. but can't get it to load externally.  I can see that there are no iptables present .. any recommendations on where I should look ?  are there perhaps some ubuntuisms that I need to be aware of?
[20:24] <CloudQc> OK thnx for info, ill go with the non-lts ;)
[20:24] <StepNjump2> Quick question: I have 2 separate HDDs: sda1 and sdb1. sda1 contains /, ~/ and all the other ubuntu partitions including swap and the rest. sdb1 is mounted in sda1 at /media/UUID_of course. no When I cd / and I du -sh, I get 60G however my sda1 is only 10G, is this normal that it will include the size of sdb1 also?
[20:24] <jrib> jjg: sounds more like a router issue
[20:24] <panfist> do the antivirus scanners in the repositories scan for windows viruses? i have a friend's laptop i need to try to clean
[20:25] <jrib> panfist: sure, clam does for example
[20:25] <Gentoo64> panfist, yes
[20:25] <panfist> thaniks
[20:25] <Gentoo64> panfist, thats all theyre for
[20:25] <panfist> thanks
[20:25] <jjg> jrib: myeah, does
[20:26] <pepee> latest ati driver (11.11 from amd website) broke suspend/resume on my machine: I get a black screen, but the desktop environment works
[20:27] <Joliclouder> Hey Ubuntu Support.
[20:27] <reisio> hey Joliclouder
[20:28] <sam7_> me voilà, dispo pour les 2h qui viennent si nécessaire ;)
[20:28] <see123> hi
[20:28] <reisio> hi see123
[20:28] <bekks> ,fr? sam7_
[20:28] <zykotick9> !fr | sam7_
[20:28] <bekks> zykotick9: thx
[20:28] <see123> how do i register..
[20:28] <Joliclouder> Jolicloud doesn't have their own IRC channel, and since Jolicloud is based on Ubuntu, I'm forced to come here for questions. =/
[20:28] <zykotick9> !register | see123
[20:28] <reisio> see123: /msg nickserv help register
[20:28] <reisio> see123: /msg nickserv help identify
[20:28] <bekks> Joliclouder: Is it a distro?
[20:29] <zykotick9> Joliclouder, JoliOS is not supported here
[20:29] <reisio> bekks: yes it's Ubuntu
[20:29] <sam7_> sorry je me suis trompé de canal IRC
[20:29] <Joliclouder> Yeah, it's Joli OS.
[20:29] <Joliclouder> Awww.
[20:29] <Joliclouder> =P
[20:29] <bekks> reisio: Uhm, JoliOS isnt Ubuntu :)
[20:29] <Joliclouder> K thanks anyhoo.
[20:29] <reisio> bekks: sure it is
[20:29] <Joliclouder> Well, yeah, I know that. But it's based on ubuntu.
[20:29] <reisio> there're 5 people in #jolicloud, though
[20:30] <Joliclouder> !?
[20:30] <Joliclouder> Thanks!
[20:30] <reisio> really only takes one useful person to get some help
[20:30] <reisio> out of 5 you have an okay chance
[20:30] <zykotick9> Joliclouder, perhaps choosing a distro based on support is a factor you should consider
[20:31] <reisio> zykotick9: or he could just not mention in future that he's using jolicloud :p
[20:31] <reisio> (including using a different nick)
[20:31] <sniz-> from another distro, how would I get grub2 to recognize my wubi installed Ubuntu?
[20:31] <zykotick9> sniz-, i HIGHLY doubt you can...
[20:31] <reisio> sniz-: I think you'd just tell it where your Windows is (it should know already)
[20:31] <reisio> and Windows will give you a prompt
[20:31] <reisio> as it has already
[20:32] <reisio> sniz-: but why have two distros
[20:32] <zykotick9> better question, why use Wubi ;)
[20:32] <sniz-> trying them out
[20:33] <trshhs> Smiz-: Run the menu configurator for grub2. It would usually find ubuntu
[20:33] <zykotick9> trshhs, it's not going to see a wubi install though
[20:33] <reisio> shouldn't need to
[20:33] <ShawnRisk> Can I setup sftp with proftpd or do I need openssh?
[20:34] <sniz-> wubi cuz i feared screwing up my windows install, i couldn't bear to have to redownload anything
[20:34] <reisio> since Windows' loader sees it, and GRUB sees Windows' loader
[20:34] <zykotick9> reisio, i agree with your logic there - it's just doing going to see Wubi directly.
[20:34] <zykotick9> ShawnRisk, proftpd is ftp, not sftp
[20:35] <ShawnRisk> okay
[20:35] <sniz-> actually... thinking about it like that... I'm assuming that grub on the ubuntu side would see this distro, and detect it...
[20:35] <reisio> zykotick9: would be tricky, yeah :p
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: openssh-server will give an sftp server as well as remote console as well as X forwarding ability :)
[20:35] <ShawnRisk> cool
[20:35] <sniz-> then just keep the windows bootloader, then grub only being there for linux side
[20:35] <reisio> sniz-: I wouldn't say GRUB can't have an entry just for your wubi install, just that you don't particularly need one
[20:36] <trshhs> zykotick9: dont know much about wubi, so i dony doubt you. Where is a wubi install located?
[20:36] <see123> i want to register but the document are above my head..pleaes help me
[20:36] <zykotick9> trshhs, inside windows - to a file
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> !register
[20:36] <M4rc3l> To register your nick type in /msg nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL  into the text box replacing PASSWORD and EMAIL with your own email and password.
[20:36] <sniz-> i just don't want to reboot right now cuz I wont be able to get back on the internet until tomorrow
[20:36] <reisio> see123: /msg nickserv register see123 see123@someplace.com
[20:37] <trshhs> Ah...
[20:37] <Varazir> I have removed grub from my system ( PXE booting) used the purge command but still dose a dist-upgrade install it
[20:37] <see123> rocket science ..:((
[20:37] <reisio> see123: excuse me, this: /msg nickserv register aPassWordHere some@email.com
[20:38] <reisio> see123: and then /msg nickserv identify see123 password
[20:38] <zykotick9> Varazir, grub is going to be installed as part of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage i'm sure - thus it'll always want to be installed when you do updates/upgrades
[20:39] <see123> is there any other way what is can register through web site like yahoo.,
[20:39] <Varazir> zykotick9: I guess the same with server installation, but I don't want grub as it can't be confed when you PXE boot
[20:40] <zykotick9> Varazir, it's in SOME metapackage for sure ;)
[20:40] <see123> msg register me123
[20:40] <guntbert> see123: no, please ask in #freenode about support for the irc network
[20:40] <Varazir> or google or just go to freenodes webpage
[20:41] <bekks> Varazir: Erm, it isnt even necesarry to config grub when using PXE. So you can safely install it.
[20:41] <see123> i am blocked by the isp so i have to use freenode :((
[20:43] <Varazir> bekks: last time I updated grubb ut failed and I couldn't get around the it  I ended up reinstalling
[20:43] <Varazir> could try :/
[20:44] <see123> msg register me123 password 12345
[20:44] <Pici> see123: Please /join #freenode for registration help
[20:44] <pangolin> !register | see123 Please read the instructions
[20:45] <see123> i am not from planet mars why don't you register me :((
[20:45] <willwh> hi folks - I have a really odd error that I am not sure how to get some help with, after running a screen session for a while, any new terms opening inside that session, go to, user@host:(unreachable)/
[20:45] <willwh> also - any logs being written in my irssi session, start failing
[20:45] <scorinitron_> I just joined a channel and with in 6 seconds the guy knew my name and where I lived...should I be scared?
[20:45] <bekks> see123: WE cannot register you. You have to do it yourself, and you'll get help about it in #freenode
[20:45] <willwh> I thought this was a bunk install - but, after a complete reinstall - same thing occuring
[20:46] <guntbert> see123: why don't you join #freenode for that kind of questions?
[20:46] <willwh> scorinitron_: no, type /whois username
[20:46] <scorinitron_> I meant My real NAME
[20:46] <scorinitron_> and MY street Address
[20:46] <scorinitron_> and what car was in my Drive way!
[20:46] <willwh> scorinitron_: geoIP?
[20:46] <willwh> pretty easy to narrow that kind of thing down
[20:47] <scorinitron_> geoIP?
[20:47] <soreau> scorinitron_: What does this have to do with ubuntu?
[20:47] <willwh> a geo-lookup based on your IP
[20:47] <scorinitron_> how do you do that...
[20:47] <ShawnRisk> if I am following this: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2010/04/notes-sshfs-ubuntu/
[20:47] <see123> i am tired of this registering  nonsense i will continue with un-registered
[20:47] <ShawnRisk> do I do this on remote or web server?
[20:48] <willwh> scorinitron_: http://www.geobytes.com/iplocator.htm <- one example
[20:48] <llutz> ShawnRisk: at your local machine
[20:48] <ShawnRisk> ok
[20:49] <llutz> ShawnRisk: and still, you don't want to use the root-account for that
[20:49] <ShawnRisk> ok
[20:49] <zykotick9> ShawnRisk, FYI you don't have to use sshfs if you use Gnome - just Places / Connect to Server / select SSH input info - DONE
[20:49] <brontosaurusrex> ShawnRisk, why would you need sshfs anyway?
[20:50] <ShawnRisk> brontosaurusrex: backing up
[20:50] <ShawnRisk> I need help to get this: http://notbrainsurgery.livejournal.com/39281.html
[20:50] <zykotick9> ShawnRisk, BUT there are some subtle differences between sshfs and the gnome fuse method - so sshfs "might" be better
[20:50] <ShawnRisk> figured out
[20:51] <llutz> ShawnRisk: you should set "PermitRootLogin no (or forced-commands-only)" in your sshd_config on your remote server
[20:51] <see123> i can continue without being registered then why i should requester
[20:51] <bassliner> http://occupyflash.org/ :D
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> ok, then as zykotick9 said or use a client like filezilla
[20:51] <ShawnRisk> can someone pm me and help me figure out that site?  I am having trouble
[20:51] <ShawnRisk> I really need help
[20:51] <llutz> ShawnRisk: forget that notbrainsurgery
[20:52] <sniz-> cool, geoip is showing that i'm in kentucky
[20:52] <ShawnRisk> llutz: I am using godaddy and that is the only way I saw this working
[20:52] <sniz-> most places usually locate me in signapore
[20:52] <ShawnRisk> everywhere else I get confused or errors
[20:52] <CloudQc> Kentucky, the home of fried chicken
[20:52] <llutz> ShawnRisk: why should one use sshfs+rsync when rsync works fine over pure ssh
[20:52] <sniz-> i'm not in either one of those countries/cities lol
[20:53] <ShawnRisk> llutz: not sure, but I just want something setup
[20:53] <see123> ! register
[20:53] <CloudQc> It tells me I live 2hours away from my home, so for me its pretty accurate
[20:53] <llutz> ShawnRisk: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> actually rsync over sshfs might be tricky
[20:53] <Koolvin> Hey, how do I change the ruby interpreter
[20:53] <llutz> brontosaurusrex: not at all
[20:53] <Koolvin> Bash: /usr/bin/gem: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[20:53] <Koolvin> The interpreter is just ruby
[20:54] <CloudQc> Is there anything wrong with adding the ubuntu created user to the usergroup root? Or will I break my machine again?
[20:54] <brontosaurusrex> llutz, sshfs + rsync is good way to problems from my experience
[20:54] <ShawnRisk> llutz: can I pm you?
[20:54] <llutz> ShawnRisk: pls keep it here in the channel
[20:55] <ShawnRisk> okay I am just going to not do this
[20:55] <ShawnRisk> it is over
[20:56] <ShawnRisk> thank you for the help
[20:56] <llutz> ShawnRisk: why giving up? read this, follow the steps and you're done in 20 minutes http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[20:59] <CloudQc> I think he is mad :S
[20:59] <soee> hi, do you know when do we see FF 8 in repos ?
[21:01] <sn00p> How do I turn off dpms without editing the x.org in ubuntu ?
[21:01] <sn00p> xorg.conf*
[21:01] <llutz> sn00p: xset dpms off
[21:02] <trshhs> soee: for 12.1 it is already in
[21:02] <sn00p> llutz, screen goes blank
[21:03] <llutz> sn00p: ahh, sry. xset -dpms      it is
[21:03] <scorinitron>  /msg NickServ identify <jpatterson93>
[21:03] <sn00p> ohh gonna steal your nick!
[21:04] <soee> trshhs, im on 11.10
[21:04] <Koolvin> Free nick!
[21:04] <glebihan> trshhs, 12.1 ?
[21:04] <sn00p> llee, xset -dpms off?
[21:04] <llutz> sn00p: xset -dpms
[21:05] <sn00p> how do I know its off
[21:05] <trshhs> Sorry guys, i am ircing on my phone on the opensuse and the ubuntu channels, gotbconfused and mixed things up
[21:05] <llutz> sn00p: xset q
[21:05] <sn00p> lok
[21:05] <sn00p> ok
[21:05] <sn00p> thanks
[21:06] <sn00p> fucking stupid dpms annoying the hell out of me
[21:06] <dcom23> !dpms
[21:07] <robertzaccour> how do I register a channel?
[21:07] <_jam> what is the firefox policy? i.e. why is 11.10 not getting 8 when I got major version ugprades to at least 6 in 11.04?
[21:08] <Koolvin> Robertzaccour /cs register #chan password Description
[21:08] <_jam> given that these are bug/security fix releases in addition to feature releases, it makes me a bit paranoid
[21:08] <deradsadssd> Hello
[21:08] <deradsadssd> Soembody against Unity
[21:09] <brontosaurusrex> robertzaccour, /msg chanserv help
[21:09] <alex-> me
[21:09] <alex-> !!
[21:09] <alex-> deradsadssd: me, very much. i hate unity
[21:09] <deradsadssd> ok
[21:09] <deradsadssd> there some distros supporting gnome 2
[21:12] <Rei`> Hi, just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my Netbook, did a reboot, selected Ubuntu at GRUB menu and I've got a blank screen
[21:12] <Rei`> Any suggestions?
[21:12] <Koolvin> Blank or is there a cursor at the top left?
[21:13] <Rei`> blank
[21:13] <Koolvin> Can you feel the disk spinning?
[21:13] <brontosaurusrex> deradsadssd, gnome2 will be unsuported in the future, unless mate ppl are serious
[21:13] <Koolvin> The hard disk
[21:13] <Rei`> Yes
[21:13] <Koolvin> Hmm
[21:13] <Koolvin> Try connecting an external monitor
[21:13] <Koolvin> See if that works
[21:13] <deradsadssd> brontosaurusrex: there are some gnome 2 distros
[21:13] <deradsadssd> r
[21:14] <Rei`> Koolvin: No connector for one
[21:14] <dcom23> Rei`, do you dual boot ;
[21:14] <Rei`> dcom23: no
[21:14] <glebihan> deradsadssd, there won't be for long, gnome2 is dead, time to move on
[21:14] <djszapi> Hi! Can someone please give me the link of the gcc 4.6 version (deb package) ?
[21:14] <pstrm> Hi, I have a problem with my thinkpad T420. Somehow, I cannot use my wireless network. I get a (valid) IP, my router lists my laptop as "in the network" and the wlan connection LED goes on and off. However, I cannot ping the router. What is a good point to start debugging?
[21:14] <deradsadssd> glebihan: there will because there is one
[21:14] <deradsadssd> and that is called
[21:14] <deradsadssd> http://www.snowlinux.de
[21:14] <glebihan> deradsadssd, no there won't be
[21:14] <Joelito> hi all
[21:15] <Joelito> how do I reconfigure gnome's network manager?
[21:15] <Rei`> dcom23 / Koolvin: I think it's an X-based or splash screen issue, recovery mode boot works fine
[21:15] <machiolate> I'm currently running Ubuntu 11.10 with the Gnome 2 desktop. Would anyone know where I could find the session manager? I'm trying to find the easiest way to save my current session for the next boot up or as default.
[21:15] <szal> machiolate: Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have Gnome 2
[21:15] <machiolate> szal, i installed Gnome 2
[21:15] <dcom23> Rei`, you said you simply cannot boot from the bios that what we assume..please elaborate
[21:16] <machiolate> I didn't like Unity desktop
[21:16] <Rei`> dcom23: As I said, GRUB came up fine, selected Ubuntu and got a black screen, selecting Ubuntu Recovery works, and resume works, and I'm now at a tty shell
[21:16] <Koolvin> Rei`, it may be that your video card doesn't support opengl
[21:17] <Koolvin> What is the video card?
[21:17] <Rei`> Koolvin: Radeon HD 66310
[21:17] <Rei`> 6310*
[21:17] <glebihan> machiolate, and how did you proceed in installing gnome2 ?
[21:17] <ruudt> machiolate: I'm very much into graphic. Part of the look and feel. Unity looks a whole lot different from other x apps. What about unity was that bad?
[21:18] <Metroshica> Unity is terrible, they hide so much that they don't need to
[21:18] <machiolate> gelbihan, it was just a sudo apt-get install, pretty simple. theres a ! command for the bots that tells you how to do it
[21:18] <machiolate> i can't remember exactly what i typed
[21:18] <glebihan> machiolate, no it was not, gnome2 is not available in the repos for 11.10
[21:19] <Rei`> Koolvin: It's a Radeon HD 6310, part of the AMD E-350 Brazos chipset
[21:19] <dcom23> Rei`, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xorg
[21:19] <machiolate> glebihan how do i check what I'm running?
[21:19] <glebihan> machiolate, you probably installed gnome-session-fallback and gnome-panel, but that's not gnome2
[21:19] <machiolate> ahh, o.k. so it's just component parts you mean
[21:19] <glebihan> machiolate, not even that, it's not gnome2 at all
[21:20] <machiolate> the desktop is, yeah
[21:20] <glebihan> machiolate, gnome-panel in gnome3 is different from what it was in gnome2
[21:20] <Metroshica> Why Gnome 3 is terrible http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/mklha/my_thoughts_on_gnome_3/
[21:20] <brontosaurusrex> thinking about it, brontosaurusnix would be a nice name for gnome2 distro :P
[21:20] <machiolate> ahh, its gnome 3
[21:20] <machiolate> whtever
[21:20] <szal> Metroshica: we don't care here, this is support, not discussion about taste
[21:20] <machiolate> it was whatever installed with ubuntu 10.10
[21:21] <Rei`> dcom23: Apparently xserver-xorg isn't installed :/
[21:21] <machiolate> that's what I was used to
[21:21] <Rei`> So this can't be an X issue
[21:21] <Metroshica> szal: I agree, someone just asked what was wrong with it, thought I would share
[21:21] <machiolate> glebihan, someone told me it was gnome 2, so you're saying it's gnome 3?
[21:21] <Rei`> Is there an apt-package that I can use to install the entire ubuntu-desktop installation? Forgot to mention I installed from netboot media
[21:22] <glebihan> machiolate, yes it is gnome3 (its fallback session)
[21:22] <machiolate> is there a way to check that you know of glebihan? thanks for clearing that up
[21:22] <machiolate> i.e. what desktop shell i'm running
[21:22] <glebihan> machiolate, well "sudo apt-cache policy gnome-session" should give you your gnome version
[21:23] <glebihan> machiolate, no need for sudo btw
[21:24] <machiolate> 3.2.1-0ubuntu1... just the kernel i think, np tough, thanks
[21:24] <ee364a11> fun
[21:24] <machiolate> though*
[21:24] <Rei`> Anyone answer? I've installed Ubuntu from netboot and don't have X installed, assume I'm missing other stuff, I'm at a command prompt, is there something I can install to get the ubuntu-desktop as if I'd installed from the typical CD?
[21:24] <matrix3000> i hate unity
[21:24] <matrix3000> lol
[21:25] <dcom23> Rei`, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-removeinstall-and-reconfigure-xorg-without-reinstalling-ubuntu.html
[21:26] <machiolate> Anyone know if Gnome 3 fallback has a session manager? I'm trying to save sessions.
[21:26] <Rei`> dcom23: Doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:26] <dcom23> Rei`, can you connect to Internet though  the cli
[21:27] <kierkkadon> First time linux user: how do I run a shell script file?
[21:27] <Rei`> dcom23: Yes, I'm wired in
[21:27] <kierkkadon> Do I have to copypasta the text of the file into a terminal?
[21:27] <glebihan> machiolate, I don't think that's possible
[21:28] <dcom23> Rei`, then what the big deal follow the instructions linked to you
[21:28] <machiolate> lol, really? darn.
[21:28] <glebihan> machiolate, well as I was trying to suggest, it's a *fallback* session, so it's kinda limited
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> kierkkadon, no just ./file.sh will do it (if exe bit is set)
[21:28] <Rei`> dcom23: I started this download before you linked that to me, I don't have X installed and according to this I'm missing another 1.6GB of the Ubuntu desktop
[21:28] <machiolate> ahh glebihan, got it
[21:29] <machiolate> thanks man, you've improved my understanding immensly
[21:29] <glebihan> machiolate, you're welcome :)
[21:29] <ee364a11> fun
[21:31] <dpc> Hi guys. I'm using Awesome WM, i've upgraded to 11.10 and now launching standlone gnome-control-center gives something way too limited.
[21:32] <dpc> What should I launch to get some GUI system-settings application that allows to change more settings.
[21:32] <dpc> It's driving me nuts. :)
[21:34] <alex-> what version is meerkat?
[21:35] <iceroot> alex-: 10.10
[21:35] <dcom23> what is meerkat
[21:35] <alex-> oh
[21:35] <alex-> so i have 11.04
[21:35] <iceroot> !10.10
[21:35] <alex-> i have meerkat or higher
[21:36] <iceroot> alex-: 11.04 is natty
[21:36] <demon4ik> hi
[21:36] <alex-> but i'm not using unity
[21:36] <alex-> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/fullscreen-rhythmbox-plug-in-your-parties-just-got-slicker/
[21:36] <alex-> In newer versions of Rhythmbox (wink, wink Meerkat-ers) you'll need to put the plug-in in: -
[21:36] <kierkkadon> brontosaurusrex, that doesn't work; If i do ./file I get a 'no input file specified'
[21:37] <kierkkadon> brontosaurusrex, if I do ./file.sh I get 'command not found'
[21:37] <demon4ik> русские есть??
[21:37] <brontosaurusrex> kierkkadon, what is the filename of your script?
[21:37] <kierkkadon> brontosaurusrex, 'install-sh'
[21:38] <szal> !ru | demon4ik
[21:38] <kierkkadon> I've tried various versions of that name in the terminal
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> kierkkadon, ok, the cd to the folder that thing is in and try ./install-sh
[21:38] <Koolvin> I'm getting connection refused after reboot
[21:38] <Koolvin> With openssh
[21:38] <Koolvin> Is there any way to remotely fix this?
[21:38] <kierkkadon> brontosaurusrex, 'no input file specified'
[21:39] <Rei`> Koolvin: Reboot on the client or on the server?
[21:39] <Koolvin> Server
[21:39] <dcom23> brontosaurusrex, sh <filename.sh>
[21:39] <Rei`> Koolvin: Is the service running?
[21:39] <Koolvin> IDK
[21:39] <Rei`> Koolvin: Try ps -A, look for sshd or opensshd (not sure which)
[21:39] <brontosaurusrex> kierkkadon, and? i dont know what your script is supposed to do
[21:39] <Rei`> Koolvin: Or you dont have physical/kvm access to the server?
[21:40] <kierkkadon> brontosaurusrex, Oh, that means it ran the script and the script itself was supposed to do something with an input file? oooooooohhhh, okay
[21:40] <kierkkadon> Alright, thanks
[21:40] <Koolvin> I don't currently have physical access no
[21:40] <dr_rotflcopter> hi
[21:40] <dcom23> brontosaurusrex, make it executable      chmod +x filename
[21:41] <dr_rotflcopter> would some of you guys check this for me on your linux box? thank you. grep -Eio 'now at.*|\.resolution:.*|event_handler:.*' /proc/timer_list | sort -u | tr "\n" ","
[21:41] <genii-around> Koolvin: If you do: telnet ip-address-here 22     do you see a line reading about what ssh server you reached?
[21:41] <Rei`> Koolvin: Most likely scenario is sshd is configured incorrectly, and isn't running at startup, unless you have physical/kvm I can't think of any way to fix it
[21:41] <brontosaurusrex> dcom23, i dont need help
[21:41] <dcom23> k
[21:43] <kermit> my screensaver can dim my display, but the 'brightness applet' cant.. how do i manually dim my display?
[21:44] <i2c> when I do something like, sudo mkdir test_dir, it'll ask me for my password, fair enough. Is there a way that I can do it all in one line? like sudo mkdir test_dir | my_sudo_password ?
[21:44] <TK5791> I have a problem with Google sync both in Chrome and Chromium
[21:45] <guntbert> i2c: not so, but if you really need it you can open a root shell with            sudo -i
[21:45] <TK5791> when the browsers start to sync it get so far and then spoils
[21:45] <i2c> but to run that command makes me have to input my password
[21:45] <An-iSociaL> err help
[21:46] <An-iSociaL> "Error: Checksum file missing"
[21:46] <Koolvin> Genii-around failed connection
[21:46] <xrdodrx> !info firefox
[21:46] <genii-around> Koolvin: So sshd not running
[21:46] <TK5791> then when I log out and back in it refers me to the same error message your profile could not be opened properly
[21:47] <genii-around> Koolvin: Can you even ping the server?
[21:47] <TK5791> whats the hell is wrong with both browsers, dare I say that I've never had this problem with the windows Vista
[21:47] <Koolvin> No genii-around =O
[21:48] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, smells a bit like a permission problem
[21:48] <Koolvin> However, I can access it on port 80
[21:48] <genii-around> Koolvin: So it's probably sitting there on the other end someplace with an error message
[21:48] <TK5791> brontosaurusrex: really, how so?
[21:48] <genii-around> Hm
[21:48] <TK5791> I have my login set for admin level
[21:48] <Koolvin> Genii-around, could it be port issues?
[21:49] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, could be that the browse can maybe only read the prefs, but not save them, or some other version of it
[21:49] <brontosaurusrex> *browser
[21:49] <TK5791> ok
[21:49] <TK5791> solution?
[21:49] <TK5791> or suggestions?
[21:49] <fellayaboy> what are the reasons for seeing a black screen when u remote desktop with vnc?
[21:50] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, compiz being enabled is one possibility
[21:50] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, make a new system user, and see what happens with same browser(s)
[21:50] <genii-around> Koolvin: Without being able to get on the box, hard to know exactly.
[21:50] <TK5791> ok
[21:50] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, user "test"
[21:50] <TK5791> now that sounds like a plan
[21:50] <fellayaboy> zykotick9, thast true on the client? or remote? or both?
[21:50] <TK5791> I'll give it a go
[21:50] <lupine_85> tried wiggling the mouse?
[21:50] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, on the box hosting the VNC connection (remote)
[21:51] <fellayaboy> i see
[21:51] <fellayaboy> how can i disable via terminal
[21:51] <fellayaboy> im sshed into remote now
[21:51] <genii-around> Koolvin: Do you have ebox or something similar installed which is reachable by the web interface?
[21:51] <TK5791> otherwise I giving linux the boot, too frustrating, too many fing bugs, and not enough time in the day to sort
[21:51] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, is it unity running on the remote box?
[21:51] <fellayaboy> no its a 10.10 on host (remote) and 11.04 client
[21:52] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, the usual wisdom is: stick with repos, iam pretty sure there is no chrome in official ubuntu repos...
[21:52] <zykotick9> fellayaboy, but you only have ssh access?  humm, not sure then - you'd typically use "metacity --replace" from the running GUI
[21:53] <TK5791> repos?
[21:53] <genii-around> !repos
[21:53] <dcom23> brontosaurusrex, that's really good ..i also would think he will head for chrome.. :))
[21:55] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, "software center", there is chromium
[21:56] <NotSoJoliClouder> Does anybody know whether development for Easy Peasy has been discontinued?
[21:57] <flashingpumpkin> hey guys. I'm wondering if any of you can point me at some documentation how to power off specific PCI devices
[21:57] <seccunda> hello
[21:57] <dcom23> flashingpumpkin, kill it
[21:57] <anra> TK5791: it seems that it may be a bug in Chrome
[21:57] <seccunda> may i have atention please
[21:57] <urlin2u> seccunda, no
[21:57] <seccunda> why
[21:58] <seccunda> rude boy
[21:58] <flashingpumpkin> dcom23, erm?
[21:58] <urlin2u> seccunda, ask a question that is how it works, if there is a answer consider yourself lucky.
[21:58] <seccunda> no there isnt
[21:58] <anra> TK5791: the suggested workaround is to either don't sync the passwords or run chrome using the following command 'google-chrome --password-store=basic' (the first sync, I guess)
[21:59] <brontosaurusrex> !ask | seccunda
[21:59] <seccunda> its about my latitude c300
[21:59] <dcom23> flashingpumpkin, what pci devices do you power off and why
[21:59] <sontek> In ubuntu, I installed the system, and it some how flagged the initial user as a admin even though I created a new user and put them in sudoers, so whenever they install an app it prompts for *my* password
[21:59] <seccunda> ive got oscam server on ubuntu 10.4 lt
[21:59] <anra> TK5791: I've seen that here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=75e0a4c1582f8e98&hl=en
[22:00] <sontek> is there a way to make it so it prompts them for their password?
[22:00] <flashingpumpkin> dcom23, the idea is to power off the GPU. I don't use it while on linux so I'm good with using the integrated one only. I don't want it to consume power - and the spinning fan is getting annoying for an unused card
[22:01] <seccunda> how can i install my reader as a smartreader protocol
[22:01] <seccunda> this is massy
[22:02] <flashingpumpkin> dcom23, I've blacklisted the drivers in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-gpu.conf - but doing a cat on /sys/devices/.../power/runtime_status still gives me an "auto"  - and the fan is still spinning
[22:02] <rdonx> Hello
[22:02] <dcom23> flashingpumpkin, http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2007/09/07/using-terminal-to-shutdown-processes/
[22:02] <seccunda> oh hi mate
[22:02] <flashingpumpkin> dcom23, I'm not talking processes. I'm talking turning off the power for a PCI device :)
[22:02] <rdonx> This new Ubuntu UI keeps flashing the "Search" overlay
[22:03] <elmer_> heyyy motha fukaaaassss
[22:03] <elmer_> wtf is this shit
[22:03] <pangolin> !language | elmer_
[22:03] <Koolvin> Hey, I'm trying to bundle install from a user that has no password
[22:03] <dcom23> flashingpumpkin, oh, already if you have blacklisted then the script should not run..
[22:03] <Koolvin> Or atleast I believe it has no password
[22:03] <Koolvin> How can I do this
[22:03] <rdonx> As in, I click a window but then out of nowhere the search window shows up
[22:03] <elmer_> fuk off
[22:03] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I've just installed 10.11 with unity. I've also installed chromium. But for some reason open chromium windows isn't available when I switch between programs with alt+tab. Any ideas?
[22:04] <almoxarife> TK5791: as a chrome/ium power user I offer the following suggestion, 1. sync everything, 2. keep passwords in an extension rather than the local machine, 3. delete your local chrome folder and restart chrome, that will always give you a fresh uncorrupted re-start
[22:04] <dddbmt> All other programs that are open I can swithc between. (At least all I've tried(
[22:06] <anra> almoxarife: he has already removed the folder but the problem keeps appearing
[22:06] <dcom23> flashingpumpkin, please check the modules of the pci that have to be blacklisted again..
[22:07] <zykotick9> flashingpumpkin, barring BIOS support for disabling, I don't think you can stop power going to a device, certainly not by blacklisting it's driver...
[22:07] <zosky> hi yall
[22:08] <zosky> can i please get a recommendation for converting DVD to AVI. i love handBrake, but i need something that will make 1 AVI per CHAPTER on the disk
[22:09] <flashingpumpkin> zykotick9, Yep. I realise that, unfortunately ;)
[22:09] <flashingpumpkin> brb
[22:09] <TRider> Hello all, what is the best sound controller for oneiric version ?
[22:09] <brontosaurusrex> zosky, that should be doable with handbrake with some manual clickery and i assume it still supports avi files (unlikely)
[22:09] <zykotick9> zosky, you could try dvd::rip - not sure it has that feature mind you
[22:09] <zykotick9> brontosaurusrex, handbrake doesn't do avi anymore (smart move really)
[22:11] <pepee> latest ati driver (11.11 from amd website) broke suspend/resume on my machine: I get a black screen, but the desktop environment works. how to solve it?
[22:11] <TK5791> almoxarife: thanks... anra just posted a link that suggested I sync without the password box ticked and this resolve... according to the google forum the problem resides with Ubuntu and is something to do with the login Keyring... something I was having trouble with before
[22:12] <TK5791> how do I keep the password sync in an extension?
[22:12] <zykotick9> pepee, i hope next time you think twice before installing drivers direct from manufacturer instead of using the distro's version (that might even be tested to work).  Good luck.
[22:12] <brontosaurusrex> zykotick9, ok, and yes handbrake is trying to be smart, even smarter than x264 (trying new ways to make some logic layer on top of excellent x264 internal one, pretty funny experience last time i tried...)
[22:12] <ofShard> Hello. I am trying to start mongodb as a service using upstart.
[22:12] <flashingpumpkin> zykotick9, unfortunately there are no bios options :(
[22:12] <almoxarife> TK5791: http://www.roboform.com/platforms/browsers/google-chrome
[22:13] <idank> is there an open David font for Ubuntu?
[22:13] <zykotick9> flashingpumpkin, i wouldn't expect there to be...
[22:13] <szal> what is a David font?
[22:13] <ofShard> But it doesn't seem to be working. It isn't running after reboot when I do service mongodb status
[22:13] <idank> szal: it's a font found in Windows, good hebrew one
[22:13] <idank> used by latex's babel package
[22:14] <idank> but there it's a metafont
[22:14] <almoxarife> TK5791: and yes, don't allow chrome/ium to keep passwords local
[22:16] <ofShard> I imagine I'm doing something wrong with upstart.
[22:16] <zykotick9> almoxarife, ya - keeping your own passwords is a bad idea, giving them to Google to keep safe is a much better idea </sarcasm>
[22:16] <dcom23> almoxarife, its not only the passwd it store more many things ..about the browser history..
[22:17] <pepee> zykotick9, ubuntu's driver is a couple months old, and has it own problems
[22:17] <TRider> Hello all, what is the best sound controller for oneiric version ?
[22:17] <almoxarife> zykotick9: no, they don't go to google, they go to 'roboform', one must read to get the full effect, sarcasm
[22:17] <pangolin> Could someone remind me where bashrc is?
[22:17] <zykotick9> pepee, well, your issue is no longer with Ubuntu - you should contact AMD/ATI support if you have issues with their driver now
[22:17] <pepee> where do i do that?
[22:17] <brontosaurusrex> pangolin, locate bashrc
[22:18] <pangolin> brontosaurusrex: heh, thank you :)
[22:18] <almoxarife> dcom23: if you are worried about 'history' or the bad man knowing where you are at I suggest 'tor browser'
[22:19] <zykotick9> almoxarife, s/Google/Roboform - my point is the same.  People's reliance on "the cloud", err "the fog" is bad for software freedom.  Do as you wish however.
[22:19] <dcom23> almoxarife, i really don't keep history its auto to clear after exit ..thanks
[22:21] <Onepamopa> guys, how to close port 80 to everyone and only allow it from 2 ip addresses with iptables?
[22:22] <Advocated> hi there, out of interest, if i burn the iso image of 11.10 to dvd, can i run it as live and check temp/ram anyway?
[22:22] <dcom23> Onepamopa, post 80 is for dns i think so..
[22:22] <atruno> Advocated, you can install packages not on the cd and access them through the live try ubuntu session
[22:23] <atruno> Advocated, or use existing packages
[22:23] <Onepamopa> dcom23 port 80 is web, not dns
[22:23] <Onepamopa> dns is udp 53
[22:23] <Onepamopa> ;)
[22:23] <atruno> what port is cups sharing ?
[22:23] <dcom23> thanks to know that..:))
[22:23] <Advocated> atruno, any recommendations for checking temp / ram etc? or evne capacitors if possible
[22:23] <anra> Onepamopa: easiest way is to use ufw
[22:23] <almoxarife> dcom23: see 'analytics opt-out' , it's a start
[22:24] <atruno> Advocated, sudo apt-cache search temperature monitor.  for ram press shift to access grub menu and run memtest86+
[22:24] <atruno> Advocated, that might be easier done with a existing linux installation.  though i wouldn't say it would be otherwise impossible
[22:25] <dcom23> almoxarife, i am going to ccna i will learn there..:))
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> nice
[22:26] <Germanaz0> hello everybody
[22:26] <learningc> what's the minimum size of the disk to install ubuntu on?
[22:26] <Germanaz0> I would like to know if I can boot windows with virtualbox and grub
[22:26] <Germanaz0> something like that
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> learningc: minimal is quite small, if you start putting an x server on and stuff it gets a lot bigger
[22:27] <Advocated> atruno, can i do these on the actual live cd, i mean temp and ram?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Germanaz0: virtualbox can boot install Windows OSes, I've heard of data corruption and your games will run badly, if at all
[22:28] <learningc> ActionParsnip: the standard ubuntu desktop edition versin 11.10 I mean
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> learningc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:28] <iceroot> learningc: for ubuntu, something like 4GB but there are other versions like lubuntu which need less then 4gb, also you can use the minimal-iso and choose what you want to save space
[22:28] <Germanaz0> ActionParsnip: is not for games :S, this is for university programs
[22:28] <genii-around> learningc: About 4-4.5Gb with standard desktop and apps, nothing extra
[22:28] <atruno> i do not know about modern temperate technologies i do know that in your bios settings that if you set you fan speed control to disabled you will get full power throttle at all times for your cpu.  what you likely want to do is stress test your cpu and make sure it doesn't beep.  and do that bios tweak.
[22:28] <Germanaz0> that them gave me, and I have to run windows :s
[22:28] <learningc> I need to create a virtualbox disk ans I need to know the size
[22:29] <TK5791> almoxarife: I'm trying to sink but the browser is hanging again.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> learningc: my lubuntu install is little over 4Gb
[22:29] <iceroot> learningc: my installation takes 2.8GB
[22:29] <TK5791> growing weary with it all
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Germanaz0: should be ok
[22:29] <learningc> so, 5GB should be sufficient?
[22:29] <iceroot> learningc: of course
[22:29] <learningc> ok thanks
[22:29] <almoxarife> TK5791: browser or 'sync' hanging?
[22:29] <TK5791> sync
[22:29] <Germanaz0> but I do not want to run windows like a program in the virtualbox under ubuntu, I would like to boot windows, using grub
[22:29] <TK5791> both on Chromium and Chrome
[22:29] <Germanaz0> with a virtualbox
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> learningc: I'd go 6Gb to allow for updates
[22:30] <learningc> will it be slow if the disk is almost full?
[22:30] <Germanaz0> using the iso inside the ubuntu partition :D
[22:30] <TK5791> had to force stop Chrome which crashed the browser
[22:30] <iceroot> learningc: not really
[22:31] <dcom23> Germanaz0, they gave you virtual box windows *.vdi this will only run with the virtual box inside the os with installed virtual box in it
[22:31] <iceroot> learningc: but remeber, you need 4GB for ubuntu and maybe 1GB for swat
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> learningc: no but it can cause you to not be able to login. I always gove 10Gb to / and use the rest for swap and /home
[22:31] <iceroot> learningc: also having more free space for updates and other stuff as ActionParsnip is a good idea
[22:31] <almoxarife> TK5791: never had 'sync' hang, you are using 'chrome or chromium'?
[22:31] <TK5791> both
[22:31] <TK5791> would just like to use Chrome
[22:32] <almoxarife> TK5791: both? why?
[22:32] <TK5791> I thought that Chrome was the problem.... but it appears more and more to be the OS
[22:32] <n00berG00ber> anyone had issues needing libxul in 11.10?
[22:32] <Germanaz0> dcom23: yes but I would like to run windows with the  virtualbox, but booting with grub instead use ubuntu inside
[22:32] <iceroot> is there a way to compile software for amd64 when the cpu does not support amd64?
[22:32] <n00berG00ber> iceroot, not that I am aware of
[22:32] <TK5791> was having sync problems with Chrome so someone suggested Chromium
[22:32] <almoxarife> TK5791: what is the OS? version?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: could try the daily chromium build, worked flawlessly here for ages now
[22:33] <TK5791> 11.10
[22:33] <iceroot> hm, are there any servers from ubuntu/canocial where i can build amd64 software?
[22:33] <n00berG00ber> iceroot, dunno
[22:33] <dcom23> Germanaz0, simply cannot boot *.vdi from the bios that what are you asking for
[22:33] <n00berG00ber> iceroot, good question.
[22:33] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot, isnt that compiler specific?
[22:33] <almoxarife> TK5791: I use 11.10 and daily chromium, no issues
[22:33] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: i dont know
[22:33] <n00berG00ber> TK5791, same here
[22:34] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: need to build an amd64 kernel here in i386 hardware
[22:34] <TK5791> well it must be me then... christ knows
[22:34] <pepee> iceroot, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1498929/compiling-for-amd64-under-i386-debian
[22:34] <almoxarife> TK5791: you already synced chrome once before?
[22:34] <lattera> how do I go back to original gnome in 11.0 and get rid of unity?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:34] <n00berG00ber> lattera, at the login prompt select the gnome classic option instead of unity
[22:35] <Onepamopa> anra actually the easiest way is apf ;) but I dont have it on that machine
[22:35] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot, iam not an expert but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_compiler
[22:35] <Onepamopa> (yet)
[22:35] <lattera> gdm is set to auto-login
[22:35] <iceroot> pepee: thanks, i will try it with multilib
[22:35] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: thx
[22:35] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: he needs to wipe his local chrome settings too
[22:35] <vuarabei> QHO PLAY ULTIMA ONLINE?
[22:35] <iceroot> lattera: original gnome = gnome3?
[22:35] <lattera> iceroot: sure? no clue, I just don't want unity
[22:35] <n00berG00ber> lattera, ah....I remember seeing a work around for that......let me see if I can find it for you.
[22:35] <TK5791> yes, but the sync only lasted until I rebooted the browser and then it reverted back to there is a problem with your profile crap
[22:36] <anra> Onepamopa: I haven't tried that, but it would be difficult to be simpler than ufw :-)
[22:36] <iceroot> lattera: 11.04 or 11.10?
[22:36] <lattera> ah, nvm http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-10-how-to-auto-login-gnome-shell-gnome3-desktop
[22:36] <TK5791> how old is this version of Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:36] <zykotick9> TK5791, the version is the date so 2011 - 10th month
[22:36] <iceroot> TK5791: 20(11.10)
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: was released in October (10th month) in 20(11)
[22:37] <TK5791> so very new and full of bugs?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: the version numbers are a dead giveaway
[22:37] <Vivo> Hey mates
[22:37] <matrix3000> yea
[22:37] <TK5791> thank you action
[22:37] <matrix3000> it's flaming new and full of bugs
[22:37] <almoxarife> TK5791: the 'profile crap' is because your profile is 'crap', with one fix only, delete the profile by removing your 'chrome folder' in your local folders, do you know how?
[22:37] <iceroot> TK5791: not stable like 10.04
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: could try Natty
[22:37] <matrix3000> if you want something stable and awesome, get 10.04
[22:37] <TK5791> yes
[22:37] <matrix3000> unless you are just itching for unity
[22:37] <TK5791> I'll give it another go
[22:38] <almoxarife> TK5791: wait
[22:38] <Vivo> So I have a fun issue today, it's that my wireless cuts out of 2-3 hours, will not reconnect if I don't restart.
[22:38] <TK5791> itching for an easier life
[22:38] <TK5791> ;/
[22:38] <Koolvin> How do I generate an ssl certificate
[22:38] <almoxarife> TK5791: you use what to install remove stuff?
[22:38] <TK5791> erm?
[22:39] <almoxarife> TK5791: synaptic ? apt-get?
[22:39] <matrix3000> Koolvin: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+generate+ssl+certificate+ubuntu
[22:39] <TK5791> simply go the folder .config rename folder
[22:39] <n00berG00ber> lattera, looks like you need to modify your etc/gdm/*conf file look for the AutomaticLoginEnable and set it to false
[22:39] <Jasmin> hi friends
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> I wouldn't go Lucid personally, Ive see it not so friendly with newer hardware
[22:39] <iceroot> !google | matrix3000
[22:39] <Vivo> I installed new drivers, because my wireless adapter was one of the ones that did not initially work with Oneric
[22:39] <almoxarife> TK5791: yes, but to remove a package, what do you use?
[22:39] <n00berG00ber> lattera, besure to make a backup incase you mess things up
[22:39] <dcom23> Vivo, could be got heated too much..
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: could make a fresh ubuntu user and log in as that, see if it'sok
[22:40] <TK5791> I rename then drag it to the rubbish bon
[22:40] <TK5791> bin
[22:40] <matrix3000> Koovin: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/certificates-and-security.html
[22:40] <lattera> n00berG00ber: it's a vm I just barely set up
[22:40] <TK5791> I guess that this isn't the way to do it?
[22:40] <jufoda> I try to install pidgin in Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Lucid but get unmet dependencies, because the repository sources known to the system only support older versions of gconf2, perl-base, libpurple0 and no version for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0. How can I get newer versions of those libraries into my system?
[22:40] <almoxarife> TK5791: how did you install chrome?
[22:40] <n00berG00ber> lattera, then in your vm under it's etc/gdm it should have those same files
[22:41] <TK5791> another user helped me download via Terminalk
[22:41] <n00berG00ber> anyone had any trouble with libxul on 11.10?
[22:41] <almoxarife> TK5791: terminal talk?
[22:41] <n00berG00ber> TK5791, try installing the one from the repo (chromium)
[22:41] <TK5791> sudo install via Terminal
[22:42] <n00berG00ber> !exit
[22:42] <TK5791> I have installed Chromium... same problem I'm afriad
[22:42] <n00berG00ber> up
[22:42] <n00berG00ber> *yup
[22:42] <n00berG00ber> hmm....
[22:42] <Koolvin> Why is openssl taking forever to verify my password
[22:42] <Vivo> Sorry, doing this at work
[22:42] <Vivo> anywho, I considered a heat issue
[22:42] <dcom23> TK5791, can you ping www.google.com
[22:42] <n00berG00ber> hackers in russia are trying to crack it .. :D
[22:43] <Vivo> But it works perfectly fine for another couple hours after I restart
[22:43] <Vivo> Similarly, it detects if the adapter is turned on or off by hardware
[22:44] <Vivo> It just losses connection and asks for me to re-authenticate my login repeatedly
[22:44] <iceroot> how much space is needed to compile the kernel for one architecture? startet with 600MB left, now i am at 250MB and down know how long it takes until the debs are build
[22:44] <TK5791> I assume to type into Terminal ping www.google.com
[22:44] <TK5791> ?
[22:44] <almoxarife> TK5791: shall we try something, sort of a 'start from scratch'??
[22:44] <frederific> How on earth do you mount a remote SMB share on 11.04? I'm used to it just being Places/Connect to Remote...
[22:44] <TK5791> can we please?
[22:44] <brontosaurusrex> TK5791, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre
[22:44] <nd456> frederific: its in the file browser...
[22:44] <almoxarife> TK5791: did you ping google?
[22:45] <dcom23> Vivo, i assume there is nothing with the hardware...just increase the aircon cooling temp..
[22:45] <TK5791> i think so... something was def coming back... in windows the ping ends... in Terminal it seems to go on forever
[22:45] <nd456> frederific: open any folder and go to File->Connect to server
[22:46] <iceroot> TK5791: ctrl +c
[22:46] <dcom23> TK5791, use the terminal to ping..how you are going to ping otherwise
[22:46] <almoxarife> TK5791: ok, in terminal  sudo apt-get purge chrome
[22:46] <iceroot> TK5791: on unix you have to use ping -c 4 www.google.com to say just ping 4 times
[22:46] <frederific> nd456: cheers. Feel like a numpty now. Still kinda unconvinced by all this new UI...
[22:46] <almoxarife> dcom23: there is a ping facility in network tools
[22:47] <TK5791> hey I'm a new noob with a very sore head thanks in no part to my 4 week old
[22:47] <Guest79158> exit
[22:47] <nd456> frederific: ehh... unity isn't bad just have to adjust... it will keep getting better untill there is somthing else to change to
[22:47] <TK5791> a little slack would be appreciated
[22:47] <dcom23> almoxarife, may be i use pure cli not more attached to gui
[22:47] <almoxarife> dcom23: maybe ubuntu has options you need to brush up on
[22:48] <almoxarife> TK5791: did you purge chrome?
[22:48] <TK5791> yep... but it still appears in the left hand side bar
[22:49] <Gentoo64> TK5791: try rebooting
[22:49] <dcom23> almoxarife, i would rather say learn the Linux way..gui can fail you
[22:49] <almoxarife> dcom23: I am very attached to gui, I love gui,
[22:49] <|^j0ng^Il> question
[22:49] <Gentoo64> or logout/in
[22:49] <zykotick9> almoxarife, isn't the package called google-chrome?
[22:49] <|^j0ng^Il> I'm trying to load a KML file at http://pastebin.com/7T1v6jAj and it isn't using the new placemark icon in <style>.  it's like <Style id="workings_abandoned"> then     <Icon><href>http://www.geology.arkansas.gov/minerals/amc_icons/WORKINGS_INTERMITTENT.png</href></Icon>    but it's not working
[22:49] <|^j0ng^Il> Anyone have any idea on how to do this
[22:49] <almoxarife> zykotick9: not sure now, let me check
[22:49] <|^j0ng^Il> Oh yeah, I'm using googleearth_6.0.3.2197+0.6.0-1_i386.deb
[22:51] <lysander89> hi all, just curious to know when ff8 for ubuntu will be released?
[22:51] <almoxarife> !info chrome
[22:52] <almoxarife> !info google-chrome
[22:52] <Gentoo64> dcom23: i think he means he uses the gui, as it's available. whats the point using ubuntu for pure cli?
[22:52] <almoxarife> !info chromium-browser
[22:52] <zykotick9> almoxarife, if you have "google chrome" installed on your system try "dpkg -l | grep chrome" for output.
[22:52] <almoxarife> zykotick9: I don't, I have chromium
[22:52] <TK5791> 	virtual packages like 'google-chrome can't
[22:53] <TK5791> be removed
[22:53] <zykotick9> almoxarife, google's version cannot be in ubuntu repo - only chromium
[22:53] <TK5791> that's wat term is tell me
[22:53] <Gentoo64> TK5791: what are you trying to do? remove chrome?
[22:53] <TK5791> apparently so
[22:54] <Gentoo64> is it chrome (colored icon) or chromium (cilver icon)
[22:54] <almoxarife> TK5791: try apt-get purge chromium-browser
[22:54] <TK5791> def Chrome
[22:54] <gen0> srsly guys.. who killed 2pac
[22:54] <TK5791> not Chromim
[22:55] <TK5791> E: Could not open lock file
[22:55] <almoxarife> TK5791: def?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> TK5791: did you install it from the chrome website?
[22:55] <ofShard> Hey, how would I capture like error messages and whatnot spewed by upstart?
[22:55] <TK5791> someone asked me if I was trying to delete Chrome or Chromium
[22:55] <ofShard> In my .conf file.
[22:55] <almoxarife> TK5791: try              sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser
[22:56] <dcom23> see there come the terminal then.. :))
[22:56] <TK5791> its deleting Chromium now
[22:56] <TK5791> done
[22:57] <TK5791> can we purge Chrome now?
[22:57] <almoxarife> TK5791: now, insure that the local chromium folder is gone
[22:57] <TK5791> kj
[22:57] <TK5791> k
[22:57] <Gentoo64> you have to manually delete the chromium files in /home
[22:57] <Gentoo64> or do you mean the actual prog folder
[22:57] <almoxarife> TK5791: Gentoo64: you have to manually delete the chromium files in /home
[22:58] <TK5791> done
[22:58] <gajbooks|ircle> It is me again.
[22:58] <TK5791> deleted from .config file
[22:58] <Gentoo64> theres one in .cache too
[22:58] <Gentoo64> for cleanness :)
[22:58] <TK5791> ok
[22:58] <gajbooks|ircle> What does it mean when there is just a flashing cursor instead of ubuntu booting?
[22:59] <almoxarife> TK5791: now          sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[22:59] <Gentoo64> gajbooks|ircle: it means its broken
[23:00] <TK5791> done
[23:00] <gajbooks|ircle> Gentoo64: I noticed.
[23:00] <Gentoo64> gajbooks|ircle: how long have you left it like that for?
[23:00] <almoxarife> TK5791: somewhere there is a icon for chromium now, yes?
[23:00] <gajbooks|ircle> Gentoo64: At least a minute now.
[23:00] <TK5791> I can find it in Naut yes
[23:00] <ofShard> Hey, how would I capture like error messages and whatnot spewed by upstart?
[23:00] <Gentoo64> gajbooks|ircle: first time its happened? if so try rebooting
[23:01] <TK5791> would you like me to click on the link?
[23:01] <almoxarife> TK5791: please do
[23:01] <phunyguy> hmmm, I seem to be having an issue where some windows don't un-minimize if I let the computer sit for a while
[23:01] <phunyguy> has this happened to anyone else?
[23:01] <gajbooks|ircle> Is there a way to have GRUB search for OSes?
[23:01] <TK5791> k shes loaded
[23:02] <ofShard> When I first set Ubuntu to the default OS on my dual boot system (with Windows XP), it froze with the blinky cursor.
[23:02] <zykotick9> gajbooks|ircle, "sudo update-grub" from your install
[23:02] <almoxarife> TK5791: good, now, for the love of god, try sinc again
[23:02] <phunyguy> like, update manager.  I right clicked on the unity launcher that came up and hit "Install updates".  I got the password prompt, and it seems to be installing, I just can't see the window.
[23:02] <ofShard> I restarted a few times and launched in recovery mode, then restarted (didn't do anything else).
[23:02] <ofShard> Eventually it just worked.
[23:02] <TK5791> without passwords right?
[23:02] <almoxarife> TK5791: yes,
[23:02] <gajbooks|ircle> Ok, what if I told you I was trying to move a HD I installed on in a VM, to a real computer.
[23:03] <Gentoo64> gajbooks|ircle: :s good luck
[23:03] <TK5791> almostroot: now before I push sync, one question
[23:03] <ofShard> So, how would I capture like error messages and whatnot spewed by upstart?
[23:04] <almoxarife> TK5791: when you sync I assume you are doing so on a account you own and have the correct id and password?
[23:04] <TK5791> almostroot: yes
[23:04] <almoxarife> TK5791: question?
[23:04] <Gentoo64> ofShard: try var log kern.log
[23:05] <ofShard> Would that be a stanza?
[23:05] <TK5791> almostroot: should I leave the save passwords in Chromium black as well as the passwords in google sync?
[23:05] <Gentoo64> stanza>
[23:05] <Gentoo64> ?
[23:05] <Gentoo64> what do you mean
[23:05] <TK5791> blank
[23:05] <ofShard> That's the name of the commands on upstart I guess.
[23:05] <TK5791> black=blank
[23:05] <ofShard> According to their manual.
[23:06] <TK5791> Chromium password saving feature, to save or not to save that is the question
[23:06] <Gentoo64> TK5791: thats personal preference
[23:06] <almoxarife> TK5791: blank? no, you have to fill the sync window with your email and password, otherwise no worky
[23:06] <FlexGuy> anybody know channel for open-iscsi discussion ? nss
[23:06] <Gentoo64> almoxarife: you dont HAVE to use the sync
[23:07] <ofShard> Okay, I think my mongodb process is starting like it should.
[23:07] <ofShard> But the upstart service isn't keeping track of it.
[23:07] <Gentoo64> i noticed chromium starting popping up the sync window on new installs though
[23:07] <almoxarife> Gentoo64: you don't, but that's what TK5791 has been trying to do, so I assume that is what he wants to do
[23:07] <Gentoo64> almoxarife: oh ok sorry
[23:07] <TK5791> almostroot: I know that, but the sync feature allows to you sync passwords... that box I should untick, however Chromium also gives you the option to auto save passwords... can I give the local browser permission or tick Never save passwords?
[23:08] <almoxarife> TK5791: you want to sync 'all'
[23:08] <Gentoo64> TK5791: are you trying to completely not save/store anything?
[23:08] <ofShard> I included "expect fork" stanza, but it still seems to lose track of it.
[23:08] <Gentoo64> but use sync?
[23:08] <TK5791> sync all doesn't work according to all
[23:09] <almoxarife> TK5791: sync all does not work?
[23:09] <TK5791> what I mean is password sync doesn't work according to several folks and a few forums... they suggest that you don't use that feature
[23:09] <hydra_> hi
[23:09] <TK5791> however will my problems persist if I give the local browser the option to auto save passwords?
[23:09] <hydra_> anyone having problems with virtualbox ?
[23:10] <almoxarife> TK5791: please sync something, if anything syncs then the issue is resolved from my standpoint, feel free to only sync what you please
[23:10] <Gentoo64> hydra_: hi
[23:10] <hydra_> I can't compile the driver
[23:10] <hydra_> hi Gentoo64
[23:10] <Gentoo64> hydra_: what problems?
[23:10] <hydra_> virtualbox driver
[23:10] <hydra_> backtrack Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[23:10] <hydra_> I have the headers and source in /usr/src/
[23:10] <Gentoo64> backtrack not supported here afaik
[23:10] <Gentoo64> but it has apt-get install
[23:10] <hydra_> yes
[23:10] <hydra_> I did it
[23:10] <hydra_> backtrack it's ubuntu
[23:10] <hydra_> afaik
[23:10] <Pici> no
[23:11] <Gentoo64> ubuntu based
[23:11] <Pici> And not supported here.
[23:11] <Gentoo64> but this is only for normal ubuntu here im sure
[23:11] <Pici> !bt
[23:11] <Pici> !backtrack
[23:11] <TK5791> almostroot: done... it seems to have worked
[23:11] <Gentoo64> hydra_: i think its #backtrack-linux
[23:11] <TK5791> almostroot: thank you
[23:12] <almoxarife> TK5791: you problem with local passwords is something else, I don't use local, so someone that does can further assist you, I stopped using local passwords because of corrupted local folder, I save them in an extension, so all I do is sync and I have a working web browser on any machine anywhre on the planet
[23:12] <Gentoo64> hydra_: just out of interest, why do you want virtualbox, in backtrack? lol
[23:12] <almoxarife> TK5791: did the sync work?
[23:12] <TK5791> almostroot: yes
[23:12] <almoxarife> TK5791: cool
[23:12] <hydra_> Gentoo64: sniffing demo, I use Gentoo but no time
[23:13] <hydra_> debian would be better than this ...
[23:13] <almoxarife> TK5791: read about 'synaptic' there is no reason to have to install in terminal
[23:13] <TK5791> almoxarife: that software you suggested, does it work with Chromium?
[23:13] <almoxarife> TK5791: yep, and free even
[23:13] <TK5791> almoxarife: got the link?
[23:14] <almoxarife> http://www.roboform.com/platforms/browsers/google-chrome
[23:14] <lun4tic> yaaaay i solved my wifi connection issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/842007
[23:15] <TK5791> almoxarife: I see, it works with both Chrome and Chromium
[23:15] <lun4tic> seems to be a stability problem with the wifi N standard and someone forgot to add iwlagn to the options.conf :-)
[23:15] <almoxarife> TK5791: yes,
[23:15] <TK5791> almoxarife: do you know how to delete Chrome?
[23:16] <TK5791> I'll stick with Chromium
[23:16] <almoxarife> TK5791: you did delete it
[23:16] <TK5791> no I deleted Chromium
[23:16] <TK5791> and then reinstalled
[23:16] <almoxarife> TK5791: that's because there was no 'chrome'
[23:16] <TK5791> no Chrome is still there I can see it
[23:17] <almoxarife> TK5791: see what where?
[23:17] <James1> Hi there, is this the Ubuntu chat room?
[23:17] <James1> need a little help
[23:17] <TK5791> the Chrome icon appears in the left menu bar
[23:18] <almoxarife> TK5791: is that a chrome or chromium icon? and how do you know the diff?
[23:18] <Pici> James1: This is the official Ubuntu support channel, if you have a question just ask (all on one line please)
[23:18] <TK5791> Chromium is blue, Chrome is a mix of red, yellow, green, with a blue dot in the centre
[23:19] <almoxarife> TK5791: terminal still open?
[23:19] <TK5791> yep
[23:19] <James1> ok Pici, my problem is that I once installed Ubuntu long time ago without an issue. However everytime I try to re=install it I always get an error afterwards. This has happened at least the past 20 times now. Not sure what the problem could be.
[23:19] <almoxarife> TK5791: type    sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:20] <Koolvin> What is the package to set up a mail server on 10.04
[23:20] <James1> It installs fine but I get CMD kinda errors after I restart it
[23:20] <TK5791> done
[23:20] <hydra_> dropping virtualbox-ose
[23:20] <almoxarife> TK5791: type synaptic
[23:21] <almoxarife> TK5791: and yes, it wants your admin password
[23:22] <TK5791> ok
[23:22] <TK5791> I can see three folders with Google Chrome
[23:22] <almoxarife> TK5791: once in the gui, bottom left, click on 'status'
[23:23] <TK5791> done
[23:23] <almoxarife> TK5791: top left, search for 'chrome'
[23:23] <TK5791> done
[23:23] <TK5791> 3 lines
[23:23] <almoxarife> TK5791: chrome or chromium listed?
[23:24] <TK5791> chrome
[23:24] <TK5791> and chromium
[23:24] <TK5791> 3 lines for Chrome, stable, unstable and beta
[23:24] <almoxarife> TK5791: and chromium?
[23:25] <TK5791> and Chromium
[23:25] <James1> ok Pici, my problem is that I once installed Ubuntu long time ago without an issue. However everytime I try to re=install it I always get an error afterwards. This has happened at least the past 20 times now. Not sure what the problem could be.  It installs fine but I get CMD kinda errors after I restart it
[23:25] <DarkStar1> I know this is off topic, but ppl in the right region please sign this petition against SOPA Bill: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/stop-e-parasite-act/SWBYXX55
[23:26] <Pici> James1: Please don't direct your question to me directly, and the error that you are getting would be very helpful.
[23:26] <TK5791> can I just delete Chrome from here then?>
[23:26] <almoxarife> TK5791: you can have both chrome and chromium installed, if you want to play with your system, remove the 'chrome' NOT the chromium.
[23:26] <hydra_> prepare-kernel-sources
[23:26] <hydra_> I preffer Gentoo
[23:26] <hydra_> debian ubuntu and similar are insane
[23:26] <Pici> DarkStar1: Then you know no to post it here then.
[23:26] <TK5791> thank you
[23:26] <almoxarife> TK5791: but you are now on your own, we done
[23:26] <hydra_> debian works, but ubuntu and backtrack...
[23:27] <Pici> hydra_: Please stay on-topic here. This is for Ubuntu support, not random discussion.
[23:27] <hydra_> Pici: ok
[23:27] <TK5791> I've marked it for complete removal
[23:27] <StepNjump> Should I reset my gnome when loose top of the windows in 11.04?
[23:27] <StepNjump> or is there a work around?
[23:27] <TK5791> should I just exit the package manager?
[23:27] <hydra_> StepNjump: probably launching again the program ?
[23:27] <hydra_> from terminal to X ?
[23:28] <stalker> anyone know why i can't find files on my apache2 server if i switch it to listen to port 8080, yet somehow phpmyadmin will work 8080??
[23:28] <hydra_> (has something to do with the windows manager?)
[23:28] <almoxarife> TK5791: only if you want to :)
[23:28] <StepNjump> hydra it's all my windows
[23:28] <TK5791> ok
[23:28] <hydra_> stalker: /etc/apache/ or conf.d
[23:28] <hydra_> stalker: you have to create a virtualhost
[23:28] <TK5791> its telling me that I have marked something for a change and that that change will  not take effect if I quit
[23:29] <scorchgeek> ubuntu natty narwhal is taking a very, very long time, sometimes over two or three minutes to mount my flash drive, but once it's mounted it works fine. It has U3, which I don't use. Has anybody else had this problem?
[23:29] <almoxarife> TK5791: when people talk 'apt-get' they are talking the terminal version of synaptic, anything that can be done with apt-get can be done in synaptic
[23:29] <hydra_> * compiling but failed
[23:29] <almoxarife> TK5791: see 'apply' on gui?
[23:29] <TK5791> apply is greyed out
[23:30] <TK5791> Chrome is marked for complete removal but apply is greyed out
[23:30] <scorchgeek> TK5791: did you forget to run synaptic as root?
[23:30] <stalker> hydra, ports.conf?? apache2.conf doesn't have a section for virtual hosts i dont think?
[23:30] <almoxarife> TK5791: you are using 11.04?
[23:30] <hydra_> stalker: check httpd.conf and Include directives to other files default_httpd.conf
[23:31] <hydra_> or something like that, there's a sites-available iir
[23:31] <TK5791> 11.10
[23:31] <almoxarife> TK5791: when you entered synaptic, did it ask you for a password?
[23:32] <TK5791> no
[23:32] <almoxarife> TK5791: close it
[23:32] <almoxarife> TK5791: you know how to find synaptic on the apps menu?
[23:32] <moo-> i use nouvouea open source driver and plymouth still dont look pretty on startup, why?
[23:33] <TK5791> I saved it as a extension... works out useful having it local
[23:34] <almoxarife> TK5791: when you start synaptic it should ask you for a password
[23:34] <TK5791> we couldn't find it in terminal because the sudo is called google-chrome-stable
[23:34] <YawningAngel> Can some kind soul give me the output of date -u +%W$(YawningAngel)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g' please?
[23:34] <TK5791> its gone.... thank goodness for that
[23:34] <almoxarife> TK5791: alrighty, and now you are dangerous too
[23:34] <almoxarife> TK5791: see ya
[23:35] <missle3944> heello
[23:35] <TK5791> almoxarife: tired... exhausted
[23:35] <TK5791> more like
[23:35] <missle3944> i have a question
[23:35] <missle3944> on networking
[23:35] <missle3944> can anyone answer a question on networking?
[23:35] <sdclee> Is the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu server simply that the latter saves you having to install apache, MySQL etc?
[23:35] <scorchgeek> missle3944: just ask
[23:36] <nd456> missle3394: what?
[23:36] <missle3944> How do I network between other ubuntu computers on my router locally? im using xubuntu
[23:36] <almoxarife> !info *chrome*
[23:37] <almoxarife> info is too literal
[23:37] <nd456> missle3944: for what? file sharing?
[23:37] <Reikoku> Can I hotkey changing desktop in Unity?
[23:37] <missle3944> just simple document sharing. i mean sharing files between them on a network
[23:37] <Reikoku> !info chromium
[23:38] <TK5791> almoxarife: one final thing, when I launch Chromium, it normally appears in the left hand menu, and then I could ask it to keep it in the launcher
[23:38] <almoxarife> Reikoku: see
[23:38] <nd456> missle3944: it can be difficalt... I use my nas to do that... gimme a few minutes and ill look...
[23:38] <LjL> !info chromium-browser
[23:38] <TK5791> however it not appearing their now even though its running... any other way to keep in launcher methods
[23:38] <Reikoku> Can I hotkey changing virtual desktop in Unity?
[23:38] <missle3944> great thanks!
[23:38] <alsoeric> with wifi and hard wired ethernet, it looks like my connections are stalling.  seen with  IMAP, flash video but not ssh
[23:39] <alsoeric> where should I look
[23:39] <almoxarife> TK5791: I don't use the classic launcher, so I don't really know it that well
[23:39] <TK5791> ok
[23:39] <almoxarife> TK5791: something to play with, cairo dock :)
[23:39] <TK5791> :)
[23:39] <TK5791> ok... i'll have a look
[23:39] <sdclee> Is the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu server simply that the latter saves you having to install apache, MySQL etc?
[23:39] <missle3944> alsoeric.i just bought a new wifi card and it works flawlessly on my desktop. its using the Ra5661 or something like that
[23:40] <nd456> missle3394: what windows versions? and what ubuntu version?
[23:40] <opticlove> does someone have a good guide on creating a new partition in ubuntu
[23:40] <jewthulhu> sdclee: That's pretty much it. Ubuntu server is smaller because it cuts out hte stuff you wouldn't need to run a server, and has the server stuff preinstalled
[23:40] <alsoeric> missle3944, thanks.  using a laptop so switching wifi cards is not an option
[23:41] <almoxarife> missle3944: if you right click on a folder you should see 'sharing' , follow the process from there
[23:41] <missle3944> thanks,ill give that a shot
[23:41] <alsoeric> opticlove, have you trited parted?
[23:41] <opticlove> i have not, what is it
[23:42] <alsoeric> opticlove, is it a reasonable interface for managing partations on a disk
[23:42] <nd456> missle33944: what versions of uubntu and windows?
[23:43] <slash0mega_> hello, i am wondering how to network a windows machine and a ubuntu machine to access eachothers files
[23:43] <vacho> how can I find out how many files are in a folder and it's subfolders?
[23:43] <alsoeric> opticlove, in your software center
[23:43] <missle3944> im using xubuntu 11.04 and windows7 dualbooted with ubuntu 11.10. im using xubuntu bcause the desktop is running a pentium 3
[23:43] <Emiru> slash0mega im wondering too, ive been searching
[23:43] <scorchgeek> where does ubuntu put the mount points for files that gnome automatically mounts?
[23:43] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, /media
[23:43] <missle3944> looks like theres alot for file sharing here!
[23:44] <scorchgeek> alsoeric: ah, I see, my problem was different than I expected, it isn't displaying in terminal until I open it using gnome
[23:44] <scorchgeek> and I need it to for a script
[23:44] <scorchgeek> any way to get around that, besides mounting it manually which I guess I could do?
ok, i found a link... but im not very firmilliar with xubuntu things are most likily in different places
[23:44] <almoxarife> Emiru: right click on the folder, see sharing as an option? follow the process from there, the windows shares are a window share issue
 http://tinyhacker.com/hacks/share-files-between-ubuntu-windows-7-computers/
[23:44] <Emiru> almoxarife ill check it out thanks !
[23:44] <missle3944> when i right click on a file there is no sharing option. thanks nd456
[23:45] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, if it is perm media, you can add an entry to /etc/fstab
[23:45] <Emiru> How can I access file of a win7 computer ? my brother is on win7 and im on ubuntu
 No problem.
[23:45] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, not sure about other media
[23:45] <scorchgeek> alsoeric: yeah, it's a flash drive, I'm setting it up to run a script when it's plugged in, the script works fine except that the drive isn't accessible from the script when gnome mounts it
[23:45] <scorchgeek> additionally, it's sometimes taking 5 minutes or more to mount
[23:46] <missle3944> when i go into the file browser there isnt a network option like the screen shot. have u tried samba?
[23:46] <Reikoku> I have a netbook with buttons integrated into the touchpad, right click doesn't work. Please advise how to make it work. Also, please advise how to set a hotkey for next/last virtual desktop as having to use the changer is annoying
[23:46] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, can't remember where but there is some hok for auto running after mounting a device
[23:46] <scorchgeek> alsoeric: yep, I got that part working
[23:46] <scorchgeek> er, my way works using udev, when it mounts
[23:47] <scorchgeek> I guess I could just try putting a mount command in the script
[23:47] <scorchgeek> but it doesn't seem to run the script either when it's delayed in mounting
[23:47] <almoxarife> missle3944: did you try 'sharing' as in 'right click on folder and choose 'sharing'?
[23:47] <missle3944> ya, sharing isnt even there.
[23:47] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, sorry, you ran out of my knowledge
[23:48] <Reikoku> Hope somebody is going to help -_-
[23:48] <almoxarife> nd456: what version of ubuntu?
[23:48] <kierkkadon> So I just ran zsnes on kubuntu; the sound is absolutely awful, is that normal?
[23:48] <almoxarife> missle3944: what version of ubuntu?
[23:49] <missle3944> on my netbook im using ubuntu 11.10. but on my desktop that im using right now its xubuntu 11.04
[23:49] <StepNjump> Is it safe to run gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel in order to reset my gnome?
[23:49] <jewthulhu> Has anyone used crunchbang? I haven't used it since alpha and I am curious how far it's come along
[23:49] <TK5791> cairo is so much better than the lame left hand menu
[23:49] <alsoeric> any suggestions on how to fix pauses in hulu video?
[23:49] <almoxarife> missle3944: and you picked a folder within your home dir?
[23:50] <ikonia> jewthulhu: try #crunchbang
[23:50] <jewthulhu> thank you!
[23:50] <TK5791> hopefully someone will put a release through to get rid of the nasty left hand menu bar
[23:50] <Reikoku> I have a netbook with buttons integrated into the touchpad, right click doesn't work. Please advise how to make it work. Also, please advise how to set a hotkey for next/last virtual desktop as having to use the changer is annoying
[23:51] <CharminTheMoose> According to an article I read, doing 'cat [file] > /dev/null' puts the file into the memory buffer and then selecting that file on the harddisk really reads it from memory, thereby saving a second hdd read.. is this true?
[23:51] <scorchgeek> alsoeric: thanks for helping, I think I might be getting somewhere :)
[23:51] <alsoeric> scorchgeek, YAAAA!  :-)
[23:51] <TK5791> anyone know of a good theme for 11.10?
[23:51] <alsoeric> now if I could solve my video problem
[23:52] <scorchgeek> alsoeric: well, the script worked all fine and good till I tried to dismount, nautilus locked up :D
[23:52] <scorchgeek> I'll work on that later I guess
[23:55] <stryke297> Is there a way to turn off authentication so I don't have to keep typing in my password?
[23:57] <TK5791> stryke297: apparently that is bad bad bad.
[23:57] <CharminTheMoose> I read an article about linux that proposed the idea of storing files in the memory buffer, then letting the hdd sleep and being able to access that file without the hdd waking up again. Can this be done with some files?
[23:58] <yongg> d
[23:58] <ikonia> CharminTheMoose: it's not a good idea
[23:59] <Reikoku> I have a netbook with buttons integrated into the touchpad, right click doesn't work. Please advise how to make it work. Also, please advise how to set a hotkey for next/last virtual desktop as having to use the changer is annoying