[09:11] <mrevell> Hallo
[11:12] <Laney> could someone very kindly rescore a recipe build? https://code.launchpad.net/~meebey/+archive/smuxi-daily/+recipebuild/123206
[11:51] <wgrant> Laney: Done.
[12:42] <Laney> wgrant: thank you!
[12:44] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:45] <czajkowski> mrevell: you're busy blogging lately, well done :p
[12:45] <mrevell> I am?
[12:46] <mrevell> czajkowski, sinzui and poolie have blogged; I've done little more than status updates. danhg is about to make his first blog post, though :)
[12:46] <mrevell> but thanks czajkowski :)
[12:47] <czajkowski> mrevell: not complainign I like the advance notice of stuff for schedueled maintenance
[12:47] <czajkowski> tis nice
[12:47] <mrevell> ah, I thought we'd always done that :) But yes, glad it's doing the trick.
[15:03] <dpm> hi rvba (or anyone else), could you help me with a question? I'm trying to find out if automatic translation imports will import a template in a branch if the template is a symlink to a .pot file instead of a plain .pot file?
[15:05] <rvba> dpm: Hi, let me try to find the answer to your question.
[15:05] <dpm> thanks :)
[15:07] <Oleg|percona> Hi guys
[15:07] <Oleg|percona> Hi guys
[15:07] <rvba> dpm: I think symlinks are excluded  when the branch is scanned to avoid uploading a file  twice.
[15:07] <Oleg|percona> oleg.tsarev (0) /storage/dev/percona/19557$ bzr branch lp:percona-server/5.1
[15:07] <Oleg|percona> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[15:07] <Oleg|percona> I change nothing, I double-check my ssh key on laucnhpad, but all is ok
[15:08] <Oleg|percona> oleg.tsarev (0) /storage/dev/percona/19557$ bzr branch lp:percona-server/5.1
[15:08] <Oleg|percona> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[15:08] <Oleg|percona> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[15:08] <Oleg|percona> This is a bug?
[15:08] <rvba> Oleg|percona: this might be a temporary network problem… is the problem reproductible?
[15:09] <Oleg|percona> I have good connection, ping and traceroute wokrs ok
[15:09] <Oleg|percona> But problem reproductible
[15:09] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Ooops
[15:09] <rvba> Let me try on my machine…
[15:09] <rvba> All ok here.
[15:10] <rvba> Oleg|percona: ?
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> oleg.tsarev (0) /storage/dev/percona/19557$ traceroute bazaar.launchpad.net
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> traceroute to bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.90.11), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  1  DD-WRT (192.168.1.1)  1.205 ms  1.264 ms  1.602 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  2  176.36.118.1 (176.36.118.1)  5.076 ms  5.326 ms  6.031 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  3  10.255.255.242 (10.255.255.242)  3.296 ms  3.374 ms  3.607 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  4  prime.lanet (10.255.0.44)  4.446 ms  5.539 ms  5.524 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  5  core.la.net.ua (194.50.85.241)  4.048 ms  4.455 ms  4.706 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  6  77.222.135.65 (77.222.135.65)  5.921 ms  3.368 ms  2.437 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  7  64.211.193.21 (64.211.193.21)  34.960 ms  35.715 ms  35.692 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  8  xe-9-1-0.edge4.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.68.62.249)  35.674 ms  35.648 ms  35.960 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona>  9  vlan70.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.126)  35.922 ms vlan90.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.254)  35.884 ms vlan80.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.190)  35.855 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 10  ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.17)  36.977 ms ae-82-82.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.25)  36.944 ms  36.897 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 11  ae-22-22.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.189)  46.037 ms  45.615 ms  45.935 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 12  vlan103.ebr1.London1.Level3.net (4.69.143.93)  44.394 ms vlan104.ebr1.London1.Level3.net (4.69.143.97)  43.402 ms vlan102.ebr1.London1.Level3.net (4.69.143.89)  43.495 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 13  ae-3-3.ebr2.London2.Level3.net (4.69.141.190)  51.545 ms  51.894 ms  51.863 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 14  ae-2-56.edge4.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.180)  44.542 ms ae-2-54.edge4.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.116)  45.090 ms ae-2-52.edge4.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.52)  45.408 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 15  * DATAHOP-LTD.edge4.London2.Level3.net (212.187.192.178)  45.793 ms  45.770 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 16  eth0.peumo.canonical.com (91.189.88.10)  45.726 ms  44.252 ms  44.899 ms
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 17  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 18  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 19  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 20  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 21  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 22  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 23  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 24  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 25  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 26  * * *
[15:10] <Oleg|percona> 27  * * *
[15:11] <Oleg|percona> 28  * * *
[15:11] <Oleg|percona> 29  * * *
[15:11] <Oleg|percona> 30  * * *
[15:11] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Looks like canonical broke the route
[15:11] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Do I right? Network problem on canonical side?
[15:11] <dpm> ok, thanks rvba
[15:13] <rvba> Oleg|percona: Not that I know of… and I can branch your branch without problem.
[15:14] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Can you show me your traceroute to bazaar.launchpad.net?
[15:16] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Hm, now all ok
[15:16] <rvba> Oleg|percona: http://paste.ubuntu.com/745982/
[15:16] <rvba> Oleg|percona: ok, so this was a temporary glitch.
[15:17] <Oleg|percona> rvba: I wait ten minutes before ask, sorry.
[15:17] <rvba> Oleg|percona: no problem man.
[15:17] <Oleg|percona> rvba: Anycase, now all right. Thank you very much!
[15:18] <rvba> Welcome.
[15:44] <graingert> there seems to be an odd bug in the +editpgpkeys page
[15:45] <graingert> when sending a key it claims it will be encrypted with the key sizeR/ID
[15:45] <graingert> however that's my signing key not the encryption key
[15:45] <graingert> I then get a new key encrypted with my encryption subkey
[15:46] <graingert> sorry message*
[15:53] <rvba> graingert: I'm not sure I understand your problem here, do you mind filling a bug with a more precise description of the issue? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug)
[15:53] <graingert> rvba: I submit 4cfcc785e7e9294a84a55160991c1a9f5f6eec4f to the editpgpkeys page
[15:54] <graingert> and get a message saying that I will recieve an encrypted email encrypted with 4096R/5F6EEC4F
[15:54] <rvba> Ok so far.
[15:54] <graingert> when I actually get a message encrypted with 4096R/B6D51144
[15:55] <graingert> because 4096R/5F6EEC4F is sign only
[15:55] <graingert> and  4096R/B6D51144 is my encryption subkey
[15:55] <rvba> Ok, now I get it.
[15:55] <rvba> So, it's worth filling a bug still ;)
[15:58] <graingert> although now I'm getting a worse bug
[15:58] <graingert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/746042/
[15:59] <graingert> is that a crc error on the message
[16:04] <graingert> rvba: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/893660
[16:05] <rvba> Thanks for filling a bug graingert!
[16:05] <graingert> np
[16:05] <graingert> any idea about the CRC issue?
[16:06] <graingert> do you get it with that message?
[16:06] <graingert> rvba: ^
[16:06] <rvba> Let me check.
[16:07] <rvba> I get the same message you get graingert.
[16:08] <graingert> okay so launchpad is sending invalid keys
[16:08] <graingert> messages*
[16:08] <graingert> *sigh*
[16:08] <rvba> I think this calls for another bug if you don't mind filling another one.
[16:09] <graingert> it might be because I only have revoked keys in ubuntu's key store
[16:09] <graingert> it may not have picked up the new key
[16:09] <rvba> Did you do that recently?
[16:10] <graingert> yes
[16:10] <graingert> but it should not send invalid messages
[16:10] <graingert> it should check the output to see if the CRC is valid
[16:10] <graingert> I'm now pushing explicitly to ubuntu keyserver
[16:12] <graingert> nope
[16:12] <graingert> still bad
[16:16] <graingert> I'll wait a couple of days
[16:19] <rvba> Good idea, one day should be enough.
[16:47] <_ros_> Hi, I want to know if launchpad has mirrors, at least for the file download and if there is an officia list
[16:58] <cjohnston> How do I add a project to a project group that I am the maintainer of
[16:58] <cjohnston> Not create a new project though, add an already existing project
[17:08] <mansson_> Hi. Is there any launchpadlib example collection anywhere? I'd like to understand how to do a basic search.
[17:28] <jelmer> mansson_: the lptools project has lots of small tools that should be good examples
[17:35] <mansson_> jelmer, thanks.
[17:37] <EvilResistance> who do i bug to remove a project that i own which i want to discontinue?
[17:39] <jelmer> EvilResistance: create a question on the launchpad project https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[17:40] <EvilResistance> bah
[17:40] <EvilResistance> wtf
[17:40] <EvilResistance> glitchy evil computer
[17:40]  * EvilResistance punts his netbook out the window
[17:40] <jelmer> no you didn't, you're still here :)
[17:41] <EvilResistance> jelmer, ZNC ;P
[17:41] <EvilResistance> not even on this system ;P
[18:29] <SpamapS> Hmm, php5 hasn't been package-imported since early in the natty cycle.. http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/php5.html#2011-10-26 07:51:59.623317 ..
[18:29] <SpamapS> I'm guessing though that this isn't the actual problem..
[18:43] <james_w> SpamapS, I retried it, but it hit another bug that hasn't been root caused yet unfortunately
[18:46] <SpamapS> bzrlib.errors.RevisionNotPresent: Revision {kees@outflux.net-20101206211654-u8pyqg00wf55i2g9} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))".
[18:46] <SpamapS> ?
[18:46] <SpamapS> Thats what I hit when I run it locally
[18:47] <james_w> that's the one
[18:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: bug 888615 ?
[18:48] <james_w> more https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/848064
[18:48] <james_w> though it's the same error in both, granted
[18:50] <SpamapS> So..
[18:51] <SpamapS> If I can find that revision and push a branch w/ that rev restored.. the importer might be able to catch up?
[18:53] <james_w> SpamapS, indeed
[18:53] <james_w> I don't know if bzr will fill it in though
[19:08] <det> Is it typical for the build queue to be 17 hours ?
[19:13] <dobey> typical? no
[20:05] <flacoste> det, we are down by 17 builders, they should be back tomorrow
[20:05] <flacoste> a queue builds up whenever this happens
[20:06] <flacoste> some ppa builders are actually "on loan" from hardware enablement
[20:06] <det> Thanks
[20:06] <det> Sucks that this coincides with of this software project :)
[20:07] <det> release of*
[20:47] <jelmer> flacoste: hi
[20:48] <jelmer> flacoste: I'd like to propose a configuration change - but I'm not sure where to do so, and who to discuss it with.
[20:48] <jelmer> urgh, just noticed this isn't #launchpad-dev
[20:50] <flacoste> hi jelmer
[21:07] <Daviey> Hey, i386 PPA buildd's really has an estimated 47 hour queue?
[21:17] <micahg> Daviey: see scrollback from an hour ago
[21:18] <Daviey> micahg: thanks.
[21:18] <Daviey> Really frustrating when we try to use it as a development resource for validation. :)
[22:13] <RainCT> Hey
[22:13] <RainCT> I think I already reported it some time ago, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeitgeist/+bug/807950 times out all the time here.
[23:24] <Laney> When did Soyuz come into existence?
[23:24] <wgrant> Laney: Ubuntu migrated to it in Feb 2006
[23:24] <Laney> We've written a script to pull down all Ubuntu SPPHs from LP and there is a huge number in 2005-12 — was it then?
[23:24] <Laney> alternatively, what are they? :-)
[23:25] <wgrant> eg.?
[23:25] <Laney> 28568 entries
[23:25] <Laney> was that some kind of preparatory import?
[23:25] <wgrant> Ah, datecreated might be earlier, let me see..
[23:27] <wgrant> It looks like 2005-12-21 was the initial import, and 2006-02-21 was the migration.
[23:28] <Laney> so I should use the SPPH data after that date
[23:28] <wgrant> As part of the migration, all Dapper publications were duplicated for reasons that are to me unknown.
[23:28] <wgrant> Right.
[23:29]  * Laney finds https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-February/000072.html
[23:29] <wgrant> Everything from before 2006-02-21 is imported from dak.
[23:29] <wgrant> Hmm
[23:29] <wgrant> That is interesting.
[23:30] <wgrant> Bah, yes, misread.
[23:38] <tumbleweed> Laney: hrm, when we see 2005-12-21 we could defer to the .changes files
[23:39] <Laney> I think the changesfiles /were/ the canonical source prior to the migration
[23:39] <Laney> so we should just use them up until that date, and the SPPHs thereafter
[23:39] <tumbleweed> even better :)
[23:40] <tumbleweed> although, bug 885541 means we can't see many changes files
[23:40] <wgrant> s/many/some for old security uploads and where people have lied/ but yes.
[23:41] <Laney> mbox ones should be ok though
[23:41] <tumbleweed> ah, actually I think all of those come after that date
[23:41] <wgrant> Right.
[23:41] <tumbleweed> wgrant: turns out it was pretty common for security uploads
[23:41] <wgrant> The imported uploads probably don't have changes file.
[23:41] <wgrant> tumbleweed: Oh yes, almost universal until 2008, I expect.
[23:42]  * tumbleweed sees 569 such uploads
[23:42] <Laney> we could write a script to merge the foo-changes.mbox generated data with the lp stuff
[23:43] <tumbleweed> Laney: we still want lp stuff for breezy and early dapper, for syncs.
[23:43] <Laney> yes, /merge/
[23:45] <mansson_> Hi. Beginner's Question: Why are collections represented by an URL in launchpadlib? I don't get it.  bug.users_affected_collection_link[0].is_team doesn't work. The manual says that I get a person collection. If it is a collection, why cant I index it? What I really want is the importance of a bug, but what is importance an attribute of? It ought to be the list of affected things i.e. a Team - but a Team is a person and p
[23:45] <mansson_> ersons din't have importance ?
[23:46] <wgrant> mansson_: launchpadlib applies a layer of magic on top of the raw API
[23:46] <wgrant> bug.users_affected[0]
[23:46] <wgrant> Drop the _collection_link
[23:46] <wgrant> _collection_link is the link to the collection, not the collection itself.
[23:46] <mansson_> Ah. How ingenious.
[23:47] <wgrant> launchpadlib dereferences foo_collection_link to a collection named 'foo', and bar_link to an object reference named 'bar'.
[23:47] <wgrant> importance is an attribute of bug_task.
[23:48] <wgrant> Bugtasks are the things that are presented in the Affects table on the bug page.
[23:48] <wgrant> They have a target (eg. project, package, or series), status, importance, assignee, milestone
[23:48] <mansson_> Thanks. I think that is all what I needed. Brilliant!
[23:48] <wgrant> You get tasks from bug.bug_tasks