=== robotman is now known as AlexAv [00:28] hi there [00:28] have ? if anyone is home [00:38] Hello. I am trying to install a .run file, and I need to get out of the GUI, but I cant, I get this error message: root@Djiin:~# service gdm stop gdm: unrecognized service Am I even using the right command? [00:39] Nope, service lxdm stop [00:39] Ah, GDM must be Gnome, eh? [00:40] I come from Ubuntu, you know [00:40] Unit193: Thank you [00:41] Yeah, GDM was default in Ubuntu and Xubuntu, Lubuntu has had LXDM [00:41] (Ubuntu and Xubuntu have already switched to lightdm, Lubuntu may next release) [00:43] how do I change the name of a desktop shortcut. [00:43] ? [00:43] May be able to right click and edit it, else you can just open a terminal and manually edit the file (Easy too) [00:44] How do I configure my wireless connection? it usually pop out in the right-bottom of my screen. But now its gone/ [00:47] I opened the file and did a save as. I'm trying to rename the link for Gnumeric to Excel to help the luddites at work get with the program. [00:47] :D [00:47] Anyways, saving as Excel.desktop doesn't work either. [00:48] No, there should be a Name=Gnumeric section, just change that [00:48] ok [00:48] yes, that helps a lot! [00:49] They will be so pleased that they now have Excel on Linux... [00:51] How do I configure my wireless connection? it usually pop out in the right-bottom of my screen. But now its gone/ [00:55] Raha: You should have a network applet. Is this a fresh install?> [00:56] thornhillstaff: They are not 100% compatible. You could always try installing in wine :P [01:01] Yup, it is. But I cannot see any program named network applet [01:06] I upgraded and it didn't go well, that's the icon that sometimes isn't visible. Do you have a space inbetween icons? [01:06] Also, could be that your wireless isn't installed/no driver [01:09] I take a look to system profiler and benchmark, and it does have the wireless and driver. [01:09] nope, I am not seeing any space between icon [01:12] !wireless [01:12] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [01:14] Thank you, I am really appreciate it. [01:15] I think its diffirent [01:16] different [01:16] aince lubuntu and ubuntu use different GUI [01:17] Okay, well it doesn't quite seem like nm-applet is running, so how about hitting alt+F2 and typing nm-applet [01:19] wow, its work [01:19] so the name of the application is nm-applet [01:20] Thank You, and Happy Thanks Giving [01:23] is there a lightweight presentation software that's good for lubuntu? [01:24] Wow... The only one I know of is Libre/OpenOffice and that isn't lightweight [01:24] beamer, but I can't pass that off as Powerpoint... [01:24] :D [01:25] LibreOffice is as close as you can get to MSO without having MSO [01:25] yeah, I suppose I'm going to have to break down and install it, but my machine is only 500 MB [01:25] RAM [01:27] will it run? [01:29] hello [01:30] Well... I've not used it on my Lubuntu install :P [01:31] You can always purge it if it doesn't work out [01:31] Haha [01:31] The Presentation view of AbiWord, which permits easy display of presentations created in AbiWord on "screen-sized" pages, is another feature not often found in word processors. [01:31] ^^ from wikipedia [01:33] http://www.ehow.com/how_7573993_make-slide-presentation-abiword.html [01:34] thx [01:34] wxl [01:34] np [01:34] never used it so don't complain at me if it sucks :D [01:34] how do I click a link and open it in terminal? [01:37] you mean open a link in chromium from lxterminal? ctrl-click [01:37] thx, but I already copied and pasted [02:38] Hello. I installed the Cudatoolkit from nVdia's site. Now I want to install another .run file, but everytime I try to turn off the GUI, the Monitor just shuts off, it recives no signal, and I cant acces any tty to execute the .run fiel, What could be wrong here? I a m using $sudo service lxdm stop [02:48] I guess it's NOT Lubuntu's fault, eh? [02:50] Try using Additional Drivers (aka, Jockey) [02:51] ¿¿¡¡JOCKEY??!! [02:52] I am using the 3D modeling suite called "Blender", I need to use the GPU renderer CYCLES, and I need CUDA, the latest drivers no reverse engineiring can provide [02:57] I'll just stick this here (A little different, but same idea) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia === LinoSP|away is now known as LinoSP === LinoSP|away is now known as LinoSP [03:56] I can't believe Lubuntu [03:56] Wow [03:57] How does it run stuff with such little memory!? [03:59] Would it be ok if I said "magic!"? [04:00] The devs select what's installed by default very well, they try not to add anything that can load it down [04:01] well I have to say I'm incredibly impressed, I think I don't need to throw out a computer I was going to toss. [04:01] :) [04:01] 192 MB RAM doesn't go far these days. [04:01] Plus it looks alot better then unity. [04:02] True, Though I have lubuntu installed on my gammingish pc. 3gb ram, 4gb swap. [04:02] Well, you could always join #lubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat [04:03] I use Ubuntu on the regular laptop and I regularly peak my usage at around 3 to 4GB, [04:03] I have 6 total, excluding swap [04:04] I do quite a lot of multitasking. [04:04] :) Nice. Also, yeah, this is more of a offtopic thing. Though I am already there. [04:05] so a question is at what point does my lubuntu usage become so much like my Ubuntu usage that there's barely any difference? [04:05] What do you mean? ram? [04:05] Doesn't install g or k programs mean I'm getting the load of those desktops? [04:06] "Doesn't installing..." was the words in my head as I was lazily typing that... [04:07] were... stupid grammar [04:07] Not really. I mean, yes, it takes up the space on your drive, but not your ram. [04:08] well drive space isn't a problem. I'm mostly concerned about RAM usage. [04:08] Inless your run the daemons, ect. Like I have gnome-settings-daemon running, cause it is the eaisest way to get banshee working with bluetooth keys, but I had to force it too start. [04:09] It seems in practice the RAM usage is pretty great. [04:11] I tried to go to it on my lappy before, that had just 1gb ram and just a 15gbdrive, so no swap. Only prob is puaseaudio sucked. Kept dieing. But things are much better now. Compiz would crash on me all the time, so I knew I had to get some better ram light distro. Thank goodness pualse works better now. Only DE I use now. [04:51] Is there any way to have pulseaudio default to ad2p instead of hsp/hfp when I connect my headset? [04:52] Not a big deal, I just have to open up volume control to change it, but would be nice. [05:16] how do I enable mp4 playing in Chrome? [05:18] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/get-chromium-on-ubuntu-to-play-mp4-h-264-mp3-view-pdf-files-natively/ [05:19] I believe you just need ito install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg [05:19] that's what the url says which I pasted [05:19] O, that is an even better answer. :) [07:05] anyone here use cmus? [07:06] moc ;) [07:06] yeah [07:07] I found it some what better [07:07] how so? [07:07] easier to navigate and all the other small things [07:08] oh well screw it [07:08] can't get cmus to even load anyways [07:08] what does it say? [07:08] freaking nothing [07:08] just sits there [07:09] :D [07:09] uhhh [07:09] Setting up moc (1:2.5.0~alpha4+svn20110823-1) ... [07:09] $ moc [07:09] The program 'moc' can be found in the following packages: * libqt4-dev * qt3-dev-tools [07:09] ??? [07:09] mocp [07:10] intuitive that [07:12] do you get sound? :) [07:12] yep [07:12] I'm not a huge fan of playlists [07:12] now i just gotta figure out how to not make it look like freaking mc [07:12] so I usually disable that view with l key [07:13] well that's the only intelligent way to play a directory unfortunately [07:13] from what i can tell [07:15] yep that looks much better [07:16] oh heh [10:22] hi all, anyone here? [10:23] i'm a newbie to linux. i just installed lubuntu, and i'm having no notification sounds in pidgin and xchat [10:23] about ~50 users [10:23] how we may help you? [10:24] well i'm not getting any notification sounds in pidgin and xchat [10:24] however i'm getting sound from youtube in chromium [10:25] and you have sounds enabled in pidgin? [10:25] there's a check mark? [10:25] yeap [10:25] but there's no sound when i click "preview" [10:25] same thing for xchat [10:26] in fact, in xchat the files for sounds seem to be missing. i downloaded an xchat sound pack to no avail [10:26] and you have checked alsamixer and you have all sound levels "okay"? [10:26] i put them in /usr/.xchat2/sounds [10:26] i haven't, where do i find this alsamixer? [10:26] open terminal [10:26] and run command: alsamixer [10:27] ok [10:27] alsamixer came up [10:28] master,headphone and PCM are all maxed out [10:28] nice [10:28] master-m, line, cd and mic are all zero [10:28] those should not matter [10:28] pcm and master are the things that matters [10:29] sure you can try to lieft master-m level [10:29] but I assume it wont make any difference [10:30] ok [10:30] still no joy. [10:30] take xchat for example [10:30] under settings->preferences->sound [10:30] sound playing method: automatic [10:30] sound files directory: /home//.xchat2/sounds [10:31] that's correct right? [10:42] should be [10:42] do we have here any xchat users?-) [10:43] hold on, i might have found a solution [10:43] apparently the sound file i've selected doesn't play in audacious [10:45] im guessing that in ubuntu gnome installs a sound pack for us by default, and we don't have that sound pack in lubuntu? [11:00] thanks any bioterror [11:00] *anyway [11:00] np [11:00] you solved your issue?-) [11:00] sort of i guess [11:01] i just pointed the sounds to the /user/share/sounds folder [11:01] *in [11:01] and i still don't understand how i used to have sounds working out of the box in ubuntu heh [11:02] same packages [11:03] should not make any difference [11:03] but i didn't need to configure these in ubuntu haha [11:03] well, learnt something today [11:03] thanks [12:41] hi === robotman09 is now known as AlexAv [15:15] Hello. Why can't I see other tty's in my system? I go to Ctrl-F1,F2,F3 but I can't see anything, no login text or anythimg, I only get a NO SIGNAL message from my monitor and, thats it. Are they turn off or something? [15:17] Osmodivs: no they should run. I guess its graphicdriver problem on your system [15:17] Osmodivs: i experience that on a machine with VIA graphics, and i assume its related [15:18] Ah, Graphics driver, I bet it was when I installed Nvidia's propietary CUDAtoolkit4.0, (Lubuntu's default is 3.0) [15:19] Because that happened after a reboot, after the cudatoolkit installation [16:54] hello [16:55] please help with grub guys i have installed windows but now i cant go back to lubuntu [17:03] Mr_EE1, do you have a Live CD or USB with you right now? [17:03] yeah a live disc [17:04] are you using it now? I mean are you in the Live VD now? [17:04] IAmNotThatGuy: yep [17:04] Okaky thats great [17:06] Just open terminal and type "grub-install /dev/sda" without quotes. I believe you have only one hard disk now [17:07] Mr_EE1, Kindly pastebin the result you get [17:07] !pastebin | Mr_EE1 [17:07] Mr_EE1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:08] IAmNotThatGuy: it says that bash: grub-install: command not found [17:08] okay try sudo update-grub [17:09] IAmNotThatGuy: that one doesnt do [17:09] You are working in the same machine right? [17:10] the feedback " liveuser is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [17:10] yeah i am [17:10] Okay I have found a link. Follow 2) in http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 [17:10] Using Ubuntu 9.10 livecd or higher [17:11] 11.10 [17:11] Mr_EE1, do you know what is your Ubuntu partition number ? [17:11] yep [17:12] sda1 or sda3 that kind? and 11.10 is okay [17:12] sda2 [17:12] Great. then execute the following commands [17:13] sudo -i [17:13] mount /dev/sda2 /mnt [17:13] grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda [17:13] This time, it should work [17:14] I am not using these commands for a while. Should refresh the memory lol [17:14] for this one it says "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt [17:16] for this "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"" it says ""mount: only root can do that" [17:16] Ummm! check the partition number by running sudo fdisk -l [17:17] use sudo as a prefix [17:17] proper link is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Methods_of_Reinstalling [17:17] I ll brb [17:17] it gives me this "liveuser is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [17:21] awwe [17:21] you executed sudo i ? [17:24] yep but it said the same thing === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [18:53] My audio player are having issues. When I pause on Mplayer the audio sounds like a CD skipping..and Aqualung does the same thing but it freezes up the entire OS. :/ [18:53] Great distro other than that. [20:55] hi everyone, why does the update manager tell me there are still updates when I just ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ? [20:55] because you asked it to :D [20:55] but doesn't update manager do exactly the commands which I ran? [20:56] yep but it doesn't mean that it didn't check before you ran apt-get [20:57] just go to software sources and change the settings so update manager stays quiet or at least doesn't pop up a notice immediately [20:57] ah ok, so essentially it will install things which are already installed? [20:57] You also may have a kernel upgrade [20:57] Unit193: Linux lubz-VB 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:25:36 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [20:59] Since it's VirtualBox, try running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if you catch anything in there [21:01] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [21:01] i don't think it's a bug or anything [21:01] happens to me all the time [21:01] usually WHILE i'm running apt-get [21:01] i think update manager listens for apt-get updte [21:04] Personally, I think it's just annoying [21:04] yeah, update manager popped up exactly while I did just that [21:05] ideally I would have run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and not see anything in update manager anymore [21:05] open up software sources [21:05] you can tweak update manager's behavior there [21:05] i just turned it off [21:06] i ALWAYS apt-get [21:07] :) [21:09] ah cool, I just let the important security updates stay [21:09] I never know when I'm feeling too lazy to apt-get update && upgrade ;) [21:16] sometimes when apt-get says, 8 packages not upgraded, i run aptitude and it installs them [21:17] drives me crazy, but i do not really know the difference between apt-get and aptitude [21:17] bkm: After that, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [21:17] aptitude is an ncurses front end for apt-get [21:17] after what? [21:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Maintenance_commands [21:19] 13:17 < wxl> aptitude is an ncurses front end for apt-get <- why does it install the 8 that apt-get missed? is it because the 8 are from a different distribution (hence, the dist-upgrade flag?)? [21:20] thanks for the link - man, how does something get as screwed up as that?? [21:21] Makes sense, dist-upgrade can install more programs to upgrade, also does kernel and some others [21:22] this should explain it: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 [21:22] I use that one all the time, but I also use --purge on autoremove so it's not the best example to follow ;) [21:22] let's say you have package x [21:22] and suddenly the new version of x requires y [21:22] well upgrade doesn't exactly know what to do with that [21:24] wxl, Unit193, thanks for the links [21:24] Sure, glad we could help [21:25] what i really would like to ask is there a non-kpvnc way to easily connect to a microsef vpn? [21:25] sorry no help from me on that one [21:26] if i install all 169 MB of kde, i know that that i can connect vi kppp, kpvnc, or whatever their gui is called. all other methods seem to fail - not really sure why. [21:26] network-manager-pptp maybe? I have no idea also, I'd jsut say something about OpenVPN and be done :P [21:26] * Unit193 uses SSH [21:26] yeah openvpn rocks [21:27] BUT i rarely use it [21:27] wxl, as a client? [21:27] yep [21:27] i even use it on my palm pre :D [21:27] i think i tried it once, maybe i should try again, thix [21:27] thx [21:28] obviously you're already somewhat comfortable with terminal.. no reason to have a gui [21:28] wxl, there is a reason to use it if it works when nothing else does [21:28] btw i'd highly recommend cmus if you want a lightweight library-based music player [21:28] (rhythmbox sucks) [21:29] it would be wonderful to understand what is happening, but it's frustrating knowing i can just add 169 MB of cruft and not have to understand what is happening [21:29] i dunno it's darn simple [21:30] just takes a little to understand and set up [21:32] bkm: you're on oneiric? [21:33] yes [21:34] https://www.openvpn.net/index.php/manuals/427-openvpn-22.html [21:34] i haven't played with this for quite a while. perhaps it won't be as screwed up as it was in the past {but i think it might be worse} [21:34] in your ~/.ssh put your config and key [21:34] make sure you have line "remote host port" [21:35] and say assuming you are using pkcs12 "pcks12 yourkey.p12" [21:35] i also have: [21:35] tls-client [21:35] client [21:35] dev tun [21:35] proto tcp [21:35] tun-mtu 1400 [21:35] cipher BF-CBC [21:35] comp-lzo [21:35] verb 3 [21:35] ns-cert-type-server [21:36] not all of them are necessary [21:36] -!pastebin ;) [21:36] save it as .ovpn [21:36] Unit193: yeah i know but i don't wanna bother having to ssh to my phone. being lazy :D [22:10] Hi. I'm installing a minimal system and when I apt-get install LXDE i get 261 newly installed packages (about 302 MB of disk space). How could I install LXDE only with basic applications? === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [22:35] batata, install lxde-core [22:35] it should pull only basic programs needed to run lxde [22:57] !info lubuntu-core [22:57] lubuntu-core (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment - minimal installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.24 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc ia64 sparc lpia armel) [23:54] Where's jmarsden? [23:54] not in my pocket [23:55] Lol, I'd have to wait until he's online..