[00:28] <kernel^klink> hi there
[00:28] <kernel^klink> have ? if anyone is home
[00:38] <Osmodivs> Hello. I am trying to install a .run file, and I need to get out of the GUI, but I cant, I get this error message: root@Djiin:~# service gdm stop         gdm: unrecognized service Am I even using the right command?
[00:39] <Unit193> Nope, service lxdm stop
[00:39] <Osmodivs> Ah, GDM must be Gnome, eh?
[00:40] <Osmodivs> I come from Ubuntu, you know
[00:40] <Osmodivs> Unit193: Thank you
[00:41] <Unit193> Yeah, GDM was default in Ubuntu and Xubuntu, Lubuntu has had LXDM
[00:41] <Unit193> (Ubuntu and Xubuntu have already switched to lightdm, Lubuntu may next release)
[00:43] <thornhillstaff> how do I change the name of a desktop shortcut.
[00:43] <thornhillstaff> ?
[00:43] <Unit193> May be able to right click and edit it, else you can just open a terminal and manually edit the file (Easy too)
[00:44] <Raha> How do I configure my wireless connection? it usually pop out in the right-bottom of my screen. But now its gone/
[00:47] <thornhillstaff> I opened the file and did a save as. I'm trying to rename the link for Gnumeric to Excel to help the luddites at work get with the program.
[00:47] <Unit193> :D
[00:47] <thornhillstaff> Anyways, saving as Excel.desktop doesn't work either.
[00:48] <Unit193> No, there should be a Name=Gnumeric  section, just change that
[00:48] <thornhillstaff> ok
[00:48] <thornhillstaff> yes, that helps a lot!
[00:49] <thornhillstaff> They will be so pleased that they now have Excel on Linux...
[00:51] <Raha> How do I configure my wireless connection? it usually pop out in the right-bottom of my screen. But now its gone/
[00:55] <Unit193> Raha: You should have a network applet. Is this a fresh install?>
[00:56] <Unit193> thornhillstaff: They are not 100% compatible. You could always try installing in wine :P
[01:01] <Raha> Yup, it is. But I cannot see any program named network applet
[01:06] <Unit193> I upgraded and it didn't go well, that's the icon that sometimes isn't visible. Do you have a space inbetween icons?
[01:06] <Unit193> Also, could be that your wireless isn't installed/no driver
[01:09] <Raha> I take a look to system profiler and benchmark, and it does have the wireless and driver.
[01:09] <Raha> nope, I am not seeing any space between icon
[01:12] <Unit193> !wireless
[01:14] <Raha> Thank you, I am really appreciate it.
[01:15] <Raha> I think its diffirent
[01:16] <Raha> different
[01:16] <Raha> aince lubuntu and ubuntu use different GUI
[01:17] <Unit193> Okay, well it doesn't quite seem like nm-applet is running, so how about hitting alt+F2 and typing   nm-applet
[01:19] <Raha> wow, its work
[01:19] <Raha> so the name of the application is nm-applet
[01:20] <Raha> Thank You, and Happy Thanks Giving
[01:23] <thornhillstaff> is there a lightweight presentation software that's good for lubuntu?
[01:24] <Unit193> Wow... The only one I know of is Libre/OpenOffice and that isn't lightweight
[01:24] <thornhillstaff> beamer, but I can't pass that off as Powerpoint...
[01:24] <thornhillstaff> :D
[01:25] <Unit193> LibreOffice is as close as you can get to MSO without having MSO
[01:25] <thornhillstaff> yeah, I suppose I'm going to have to break down and install it, but my machine is only 500 MB
[01:25] <thornhillstaff> RAM
[01:27] <thornhillstaff> will it run?
[01:29] <thornhillstaff> hello
[01:30] <Unit193> Well... I've not used it on my Lubuntu install :P
[01:31] <Unit193> You can always purge it if it doesn't work out
[01:31] <thornhillstaff> Haha
[01:31] <wxl> The Presentation view of AbiWord, which permits easy display of presentations created in AbiWord on "screen-sized" pages, is another feature not often found in word processors.
[01:31] <wxl> ^^ from wikipedia
[01:33] <wxl> http://www.ehow.com/how_7573993_make-slide-presentation-abiword.html
[01:34] <thornhillstaff> thx
[01:34] <thornhillstaff> wxl
[01:34] <wxl> np
[01:34] <wxl> never used it so don't complain at me if it sucks :D
[01:34] <thornhillstaff> how do I click a link and open it in terminal?
[01:37] <wxl> you mean open a link in chromium from lxterminal? ctrl-click
[01:37] <thornhillstaff> thx, but I already copied and pasted
[02:38] <Osmodivs> Hello. I installed the Cudatoolkit from nVdia's site. Now I want to install another .run file, but everytime I try to turn off the GUI,  the Monitor just shuts off, it recives no signal, and I cant acces any tty to execute the .run fiel, What could be wrong here? I a m using $sudo service lxdm stop
[02:48] <Osmodivs> I guess it's NOT Lubuntu's fault, eh?
[02:50] <Unit193> Try using Additional Drivers (aka, Jockey)
[02:51] <Osmodivs> ¿¿¡¡JOCKEY??!!
[02:52] <Osmodivs> I am using the 3D modeling suite called "Blender", I need to use the GPU renderer CYCLES, and I need CUDA, the latest drivers no reverse engineiring can provide
[02:57] <Unit193> I'll just stick this here (A little different, but same idea) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:56] <thornhillstaff> I can't believe Lubuntu
[03:56] <thornhillstaff> Wow
[03:57] <thornhillstaff> How does it run stuff with such little memory!?
[03:59] <Unit193> Would it be ok if I said "magic!"?
[04:00] <Unit193> The devs select what's installed by default very well, they try not to add anything that can load it down
[04:01] <thornhillstaff> well I have to say I'm incredibly impressed, I think I don't need to throw out a computer I was going to toss.
[04:01] <theredbaron_> :)
[04:01] <thornhillstaff> 192 MB RAM doesn't go far these days.
[04:01] <theredbaron_> Plus it looks alot better then unity.
[04:02] <theredbaron_> True, Though I have lubuntu installed on my gammingish pc. 3gb ram, 4gb swap.
[04:02] <Unit193> Well, you could always join #lubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[04:03] <thornhillstaff> I use Ubuntu on the regular laptop and I regularly peak my usage at around 3 to 4GB,
[04:03] <thornhillstaff> I have 6 total, excluding swap
[04:04] <thornhillstaff> I do quite a lot of multitasking.
[04:04] <theredbaron_> :) Nice. Also, yeah, this is more of a offtopic thing. Though I am already there.
[04:05] <thornhillstaff> so a question is at what point does my lubuntu usage become so much like my Ubuntu usage that there's barely any difference?
[04:05] <theredbaron_> What do you mean? ram?
[04:05] <thornhillstaff> Doesn't install g or k programs mean I'm getting the load of those desktops?
[04:06] <thornhillstaff> "Doesn't installing..." was the words in my head as I was lazily typing that...
[04:07] <thornhillstaff> were... stupid grammar
[04:07] <theredbaron_> Not really. I mean, yes, it takes up the space on your drive, but not your ram.
[04:08] <thornhillstaff> well drive space isn't a problem. I'm mostly concerned about RAM usage.
[04:08] <theredbaron_> Inless your run the daemons, ect. Like I have gnome-settings-daemon running, cause it is the eaisest way to get banshee working with bluetooth keys, but I had to force it too start.
[04:09] <thornhillstaff> It seems in practice the RAM usage is pretty great.
[04:11] <theredbaron_> I tried to go to it on my lappy before, that had just 1gb ram and just a 15gbdrive, so no swap.  Only prob is puaseaudio sucked. Kept dieing. But things are much better now. Compiz would crash on me all the time, so I knew I had to get some better ram light distro. Thank goodness pualse works better now. Only DE I use now.
[04:51] <theredbaron_> Is there any way to have pulseaudio default to ad2p instead of hsp/hfp when I connect my headset?
[04:52] <theredbaron_> Not a big deal, I just have to open up volume control to change it, but would be nice.
[05:16] <thornhillstaff> how do I enable mp4 playing in Chrome?
[05:18] <bioterror> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/get-chromium-on-ubuntu-to-play-mp4-h-264-mp3-view-pdf-files-natively/
[05:19] <theredbaron_>   I believe you just need ito install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg
[05:19] <bioterror> that's what the url says which I pasted
[05:19] <theredbaron_> O, that is an even better answer. :)
[07:05] <wxl> anyone here use cmus?
[07:06] <bioterror> moc ;)
[07:06] <wxl> yeah
[07:07] <bioterror> I found it some what better
[07:07] <wxl> how so?
[07:07] <bioterror> easier to navigate and all the other small things
[07:08] <wxl> oh well screw it
[07:08] <wxl> can't get cmus to even load anyways
[07:08] <bioterror> what does it say?
[07:08] <wxl> freaking nothing
[07:08] <wxl> just sits there
[07:09] <bioterror> :D
[07:09] <wxl> uhhh
[07:09] <wxl> Setting up moc (1:2.5.0~alpha4+svn20110823-1) ...
[07:09] <wxl> $ moc
[07:09] <wxl> The program 'moc' can be found in the following packages: * libqt4-dev * qt3-dev-tools
[07:09] <wxl> ???
[07:09] <bioterror> mocp
[07:10] <wxl> intuitive that
[07:12] <bioterror> do you get sound? :)
[07:12] <wxl> yep
[07:12] <bioterror> I'm not a huge fan of playlists
[07:12] <wxl> now i just gotta figure out how to not make it look like freaking mc
[07:12] <bioterror> so I usually disable that view with l key
[07:13] <wxl> well that's the only intelligent way to play a directory unfortunately
[07:13] <wxl> from what i can tell
[07:15] <wxl> yep that looks much better
[07:16] <wxl> oh heh
[10:22] <squeeish> hi all, anyone here?
[10:23] <squeeish> i'm a newbie to linux. i just installed lubuntu, and i'm having no notification sounds in pidgin and xchat
[10:23] <bioterror> about ~50 users
[10:23] <bioterror> how we may help you?
[10:24] <squeeish> well i'm not getting any notification sounds in pidgin and xchat
[10:24] <squeeish> however i'm getting sound from youtube in chromium
[10:25] <bioterror> and you have sounds enabled in pidgin?
[10:25] <bioterror> there's a check mark?
[10:25] <squeeish> yeap
[10:25] <squeeish> but there's no sound when i click "preview"
[10:25] <squeeish> same thing for xchat
[10:26] <squeeish> in fact, in xchat the files for sounds seem to be missing. i downloaded an xchat sound pack to no avail
[10:26] <bioterror> and you have checked alsamixer and you have all sound levels "okay"?
[10:26] <squeeish> i put them in /usr/.xchat2/sounds
[10:26] <squeeish> i haven't, where do i find this alsamixer?
[10:26] <bioterror> open terminal
[10:26] <bioterror> and run command: alsamixer
[10:27] <squeeish> ok
[10:27] <squeeish> alsamixer came up
[10:28] <squeeish> master,headphone and PCM are all maxed out
[10:28] <bioterror> nice
[10:28] <squeeish> master-m, line, cd and mic are all zero
[10:28] <bioterror> those should not matter
[10:28] <bioterror> pcm and master are the things that matters
[10:29] <bioterror> sure you can try to lieft master-m level
[10:29] <bioterror> but I assume it wont make any difference
[10:30] <squeeish> ok
[10:30] <squeeish> still no joy.
[10:30] <squeeish> take xchat for example
[10:30] <squeeish> under settings->preferences->sound
[10:30] <squeeish> sound playing method: automatic
[10:30] <squeeish> sound files directory: /home/<me>/.xchat2/sounds
[10:31] <squeeish> that's correct right?
[10:42] <bioterror> should be
[10:42] <bioterror> do we have here any xchat users?-)
[10:43] <squeeish> hold on, i might have found a solution
[10:43] <squeeish> apparently the sound file i've selected doesn't play in audacious
[10:45] <squeeish> im guessing that in ubuntu gnome installs a sound pack for us by default, and we don't have that sound pack in lubuntu?
[11:00] <squeeish> thanks any bioterror
[11:00] <squeeish> *anyway
[11:00] <bioterror> np
[11:00] <bioterror> you solved your issue?-)
[11:00] <squeeish> sort of i guess
[11:01] <squeeish> i just pointed the sounds to the /user/share/sounds folder
[11:01] <squeeish> *in
[11:01] <squeeish> and i still don't understand how i used to have sounds working out of the box in ubuntu heh
[11:02] <bioterror> same packages
[11:03] <bioterror> should not make any difference
[11:03] <squeeish> but i didn't need to configure these in ubuntu haha
[11:03] <squeeish> well, learnt something today
[11:03] <squeeish> thanks
[12:41] <leszek> hi
[15:15] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why can't I see other tty's in my system? I go to Ctrl-F1,F2,F3 but I can't see anything, no login text or anythimg, I only get a NO SIGNAL message from my monitor and, thats it. Are they turn off or something?
[15:17] <leszek> Osmodivs: no they should run. I guess its graphicdriver problem on your system
[15:17] <holstein> Osmodivs: i experience that on a machine with VIA graphics, and i assume its related
[15:18] <Osmodivs> Ah, Graphics driver, I bet it was when I installed Nvidia's propietary CUDAtoolkit4.0, (Lubuntu's default is 3.0)
[15:19] <Osmodivs> Because that happened after a reboot, after the cudatoolkit installation
[16:54] <Mr_EE1> hello
[16:55] <Mr_EE1> please help with grub guys i have installed windows but now i cant go back to lubuntu
[17:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> Mr_EE1, do you have a Live CD or USB with you right now?
[17:03] <Mr_EE1> yeah a live disc
[17:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> are you using it now? I mean are you in the Live VD now?
[17:04] <Mr_EE1>  IAmNotThatGuy: yep
[17:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> Okaky thats great
[17:06] <IAmNotThatGuy> Just open terminal and type "grub-install /dev/sda" without quotes. I believe you have only one hard disk now
[17:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> Mr_EE1, Kindly pastebin the result you get
[17:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> !pastebin | Mr_EE1
[17:08] <Mr_EE1>  IAmNotThatGuy: it says that bash: grub-install: command not found
[17:08] <IAmNotThatGuy> okay try sudo update-grub
[17:09] <Mr_EE1>  IAmNotThatGuy:  that one doesnt do
[17:09] <IAmNotThatGuy> You are working in the same machine right?
[17:10] <Mr_EE1> the feedback " liveuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[17:10] <Mr_EE1> yeah i am
[17:10] <IAmNotThatGuy> Okay I have found a link. Follow 2) in http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[17:10] <IAmNotThatGuy> Using Ubuntu 9.10 livecd or higher
[17:11] <Mr_EE1> 11.10
[17:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> Mr_EE1, do you know what is your Ubuntu partition number ?
[17:11] <Mr_EE1> yep
[17:12] <IAmNotThatGuy> sda1 or sda3 that kind? and 11.10 is okay
[17:12] <Mr_EE1> sda2
[17:12] <IAmNotThatGuy> Great. then execute the following commands
[17:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> sudo -i
[17:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[17:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[17:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> This time, it should work
[17:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am not using these commands for a while. Should refresh the memory lol
[17:14] <Mr_EE1> for this one it says "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[17:16] <Mr_EE1> for this  "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"" it says ""mount: only root can do that"
[17:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> Ummm! check the partition number by running sudo fdisk -l
[17:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> use sudo as a prefix
[17:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> proper link is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Methods_of_Reinstalling
[17:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> I ll brb
[17:17] <Mr_EE1> it gives me this "liveuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[17:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> awwe
[17:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> you executed sudo i ?
[17:24] <Mr_EE1> yep but it said the same thing
[18:53] <echoprinter> My audio player are having issues. When I pause on Mplayer the audio sounds like a CD skipping..and Aqualung does the same thing but it freezes up the entire OS. :/
[18:53] <echoprinter> Great distro other than that.
[20:55] <freeroute> hi everyone, why does the update manager tell me there are still updates when I just ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[20:55] <wxl> because you asked it to :D
[20:55] <freeroute> but doesn't update manager do exactly the commands which I ran?
[20:56] <wxl> yep but it doesn't mean that it didn't check before you ran apt-get
[20:57] <wxl> just go to software sources and change the settings so update manager stays quiet or at least doesn't pop up a notice immediately
[20:57] <freeroute> ah ok, so essentially it will install things which are already installed?
[20:57] <Unit193> You also may have a kernel upgrade
[20:57] <freeroute> Unit193: Linux lubz-VB 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:25:36 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[20:59] <Unit193> Since it's VirtualBox, try running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if you catch anything in there
[21:01] <freeroute> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:01] <wxl> i don't think it's a bug or anything
[21:01] <wxl> happens to me all the time
[21:01] <wxl> usually WHILE i'm running apt-get
[21:01] <wxl> i think update manager listens for apt-get updte
[21:04] <Unit193> Personally, I think it's just annoying
[21:04] <freeroute> yeah, update manager popped up exactly while I did just that
[21:05] <freeroute> ideally I would have run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and not see anything in update manager anymore
[21:05] <wxl> open up software sources
[21:05] <wxl> you can tweak update manager's behavior there
[21:05] <wxl> i just turned it off
[21:06] <wxl> i ALWAYS apt-get
[21:07] <Optimator> :)
[21:09] <freeroute> ah cool, I just let the important security updates stay
[21:09] <freeroute> I never know when I'm feeling too lazy to apt-get update && upgrade ;)
[21:16] <bkm> sometimes when apt-get says, 8 packages not upgraded, i run aptitude and it installs them
[21:17] <bkm> drives me crazy, but i do not really know the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[21:17] <Unit193> bkm: After that, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <wxl> aptitude is an ncurses front end for apt-get
[21:17] <bkm> after what?
[21:18] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowto#Maintenance_commands
[21:19] <bkm> 13:17 < wxl> aptitude is an ncurses front end for apt-get <- why does it install the 8 that apt-get missed? is it because the 8 are from a different distribution (hence, the dist-upgrade flag?)?
[21:20] <bkm> thanks for the link - man, how does something get as screwed up as that??
[21:21] <Unit193> Makes sense, dist-upgrade can install more programs to upgrade, also does kernel and some others
[21:22] <wxl> this should explain it: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[21:22] <Unit193> I use that one all the time, but I also use --purge on autoremove so it's not the best example to follow ;)
[21:22] <wxl> let's say you have package x
[21:22] <wxl> and suddenly the new version of x requires y
[21:22] <wxl> well upgrade doesn't exactly know what to do with that
[21:24] <bkm> wxl, Unit193, thanks for the links
[21:24] <Unit193> Sure, glad we could help
[21:25] <bkm> what i really would like to ask is there a non-kpvnc way to easily connect to a microsef vpn?
[21:25] <wxl> sorry no help from me on that one
[21:26] <bkm> if i install all 169 MB of kde, i know that that i can connect vi kppp, kpvnc, or whatever their gui is called. all other methods seem to fail - not really sure why.
[21:26] <Unit193> network-manager-pptp maybe? I have no idea also, I'd jsut say something about OpenVPN and be done :P
[21:26]  * Unit193 uses SSH
[21:26] <wxl> yeah openvpn rocks
[21:27] <wxl> BUT i rarely use it
[21:27] <bkm> wxl, as a client?
[21:27] <wxl> yep
[21:27] <wxl> i even use it on my palm pre :D
[21:27] <bkm> i think i tried it once, maybe i should try again, thix
[21:27] <bkm> thx
[21:28] <wxl> obviously you're already somewhat comfortable with terminal.. no reason to have a gui
[21:28] <bkm> wxl, there is a reason to use it if it works when nothing else does
[21:28] <wxl> btw i'd highly recommend cmus if you want a lightweight library-based music player
[21:28] <wxl> (rhythmbox sucks)
[21:29] <bkm> it would be wonderful to understand what is happening, but it's frustrating knowing i can just add 169 MB of cruft and not have to understand what is happening
[21:29] <wxl> i dunno it's darn simple
[21:30] <wxl> just takes a little to understand and set up
[21:32] <wxl> bkm: you're on oneiric?
[21:33] <bkm> yes
[21:34] <wxl> https://www.openvpn.net/index.php/manuals/427-openvpn-22.html
[21:34] <bkm> i haven't played with this for quite a while. perhaps it won't be as screwed up as it was in the past {but i think it might be worse}
[21:34] <wxl> in your ~/.ssh put your config and key
[21:34] <wxl> make sure you have line "remote host port"
[21:35] <wxl> and say assuming you are using pkcs12 "pcks12 yourkey.p12"
[21:35] <wxl> i also have:
[21:35] <wxl> tls-client
[21:35] <wxl> client
[21:35] <wxl> dev tun
[21:35] <wxl> proto tcp
[21:35] <wxl> tun-mtu 1400
[21:35] <wxl> cipher BF-CBC
[21:35] <wxl> comp-lzo
[21:35] <wxl> verb 3
[21:35] <wxl> ns-cert-type-server
[21:36] <wxl> not all of them are necessary
[21:36] <Unit193> -!pastebin ;)
[21:36] <wxl> save it as .ovpn
[21:36] <wxl> Unit193: yeah i know but i don't wanna bother having to ssh to my phone. being lazy :D
[22:10] <batata> Hi. I'm installing a minimal system and when I apt-get install LXDE i get  261 newly installed packages (about 302 MB of  disk space). How could I install LXDE only with basic applications?
[22:35] <szczur> batata, install lxde-core
[22:35] <szczur> it should pull only basic programs needed to run lxde
[22:57] <Unit193> !info lubuntu-core
[23:54] <JackyAlcine> Where's jmarsden?
[23:54] <wxl> not in my pocket
[23:55] <JackyAlcine> Lol, I'd have to wait until he's online..