[13:35] <penguin42> anyone seen odd networking issues with +1 ? I saw the following in my NAT box log: [231079.326857] martian source 91.189.94.25 from 192.168.122.77, on dev eth2
[13:35] <penguin42> now, 192.168.122.77 is the IP of my PP vm, 91.189.94.25 is an IP of a canonical box
[13:37] <penguin42> doesn't seem to be doing any more of them, but it's an odd one
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:09] <penguin42> Hey BK
[14:14] <BluesKaj> hi p42
[14:16] <BluesKaj> wow, updated upgraded my other pc last night and I din't notice that it was gonna remove most of the desktop etc , had to reinstall X and the kubuntu-desktop
[14:17] <FernandoMiguel> I'm sad
[14:17] <FernandoMiguel> even kernel 3.2 aint any good with my battery
[14:17] <FernandoMiguel> it lasts 3h :\ on windows it estimates 9h
[14:17] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Have you tried passing the flags for PCIe power saving?
[14:18] <FernandoMiguel> what's the best way to debug suspend not working ? both system wide and pm-suspend just wake up
[14:18] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: no
[14:18] <FernandoMiguel> let me install power top
[14:18] <FernandoMiguel> forgot to do it before
[14:19] <FernandoMiguel> you guys have no idea the effort im doing to keep running Unity
[14:19] <FernandoMiguel> this UI is so clutherd
[14:19] <FernandoMiguel> wastes too much space in my POV
[14:19] <FernandoMiguel> weird for a DE that is supposed to be minimalistic
[14:20] <bjsnider> they're all moving in that direction
[14:21] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: It's interesting, in some ways I find Unity good for screen space; I mean it saves the menu bar on every window, and the scrollbars take very little space, and when the side bar gets out of the way it doesn't take any space
[14:22] <ior3k> FernandoMiguel: why do you say it's cluttered?
[14:22] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: I agree but for me is other things
[14:22] <FernandoMiguel> ior3k: hard to describe.. mainly the thing that has been making me move from gnome2/fallback
[14:23] <bjsnider> unity, gnome-shell, ios, windows 8+ are all moving in the same direction
[14:23] <FernandoMiguel> the way windows are organized
[14:23] <FernandoMiguel> I never know what I have open, or easy way to jump to which one
[14:23] <ior3k> FernandoMiguel: here are a few tips... they'd be more useful if compiz wasn't in such a buggy state, but anyway:
[14:23] <FernandoMiguel> don't know if I have a new email, or if someone spoke to me in pidgin, or even how many browser windows are open
[14:23] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Because you can't see a window list?
[14:23] <ior3k> #1 enable the dim inactive plugin
[14:24] <FernandoMiguel> I've learn to rely on deskbar notification
[14:24] <FernandoMiguel> and now, they are gone
[14:25] <FernandoMiguel> ior3k: I love compiz... have since I got a nvidia GPU powered laptop lol... when I had my 1st laptop with just an intel I used to think compiz was only eye candy
[14:25] <ior3k> #2 go to window decoration plugins, where it says "Decoration Windows", clear that
[14:25] <ior3k> FernandoMiguel: I love it too
[14:25] <FernandoMiguel> now I've learn to use compiz to improve my usability and access to content
[14:25] <ior3k> the problem is that it has a few bugs pending fixing right now
[14:25] <FernandoMiguel> ok, applying those changes... I'll probably kill compiz with it
[14:26] <ior3k> #3 enable the grid plugin
[14:26] <FernandoMiguel> I'm used to it... already have handy alias for restring it
[14:26] <ior3k> that allows you to easily tile windows
[14:26] <ior3k> haha
[14:26] <FernandoMiguel> grid??? really?
[14:26] <FernandoMiguel> expose MUCH better
[14:26] <FernandoMiguel> super w
[14:26] <ior3k> I like my windows side by side :)
[14:26] <bjsnider> i thought the messaging menu was supposed to notify you if you have new mail or someone pinged you in pidgin etc.
[14:27] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: you supposed correctly .... it doesn't. at least not to me
[14:27] <FernandoMiguel> gwibber floods it... so its useless
[14:27] <ior3k> bjsnider: FernandoMiguel: keep in mind that, if you're using pidgin, you need to configure it properly for it to use messaging menu notifications
[14:27] <bjsnider> well, gnome-shell's notification system lets me know if any of that stuff happens
[14:27] <FernandoMiguel> a blueish icon says nothing to me... my eyes ignore it... why do you think google made theirs RED ?
[14:28] <FernandoMiguel> ior3k: what's "properly"?
[14:28] <ior3k> FernandoMiguel: you need to enable the libnotify plugin
[14:28] <ior3k> there are also other things you can do, there's a plugin that allows you to configure urgency, etc
[14:28] <FernandoMiguel> where? I'm lost
[14:29] <ior3k> focus pidgin buddy list -> tools -> plugins -> enable libnotify popups and configure it
[14:30] <ior3k> the plugin name is "libnotify popups" in case I wasn't clear enough :)
[14:30] <FernandoMiguel> and we are back... compiz made BOOM
[14:30] <ior3k> yeah, for such a critical piece of infrastructure it really is very buggy
[14:31] <ior3k> I still love it though
[14:31] <FernandoMiguel> I've had libnotify ON for years... since we got the new bubbles
[14:31] <FernandoMiguel> :D
[14:31] <ior3k> ah, well
[14:45] <bjsnider> FernandoMiguel, is your wifi chip broadcom?
[14:48] <FernandoMiguel> no idea
[14:48] <FernandoMiguel> have to check
[14:48] <FernandoMiguel> 09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34)
[16:57] <photon> So, what if I don't want to use Unity on 12.04? Can I switch to the "classic" Gnome or Gnome 3.0 interface and if so, is it equally well supported as Unity then?
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>  Usage     Device name
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>               7,1%        CPU use
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>             100,0%        Audio codec hwC0D0: Conexant (pulseaudio )
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>             100,0%        Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>              47,8%        Display backlight
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel>              46,7%        Display backlight
[17:20] <FernandoMiguel> the audio system is using ALL my CPU??? WTH
[17:21] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: I've seen that if it's continually crashing
[17:21] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Any audio related dmesg ?
[17:25] <FernandoMiguel> [10906.418984] scsi: killing requests for dead queue
[17:26] <FernandoMiguel> WOW
[17:26] <FernandoMiguel> $ pastebinit /var/log/dmesg
[17:26] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:26] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/746131/
[17:27] <FernandoMiguel> kernel is crashing
[17:27] <FernandoMiguel> a LOT
[17:27] <FernandoMiguel> need to debug this further
[17:27] <penguin42> where?
[17:27] <penguin42> that log just moans about smbd
[17:28] <FernandoMiguel> [ 6994.124740] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G         C O 3.2.0-1-generic #1-Ubuntu Dell Inc. Vostro V131/0P0TH6
[17:28] <FernandoMiguel> [ 6994.124745] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff8136822d>]  [<ffffffff8136822d>] intel_idle+0xed/0x150
[17:28] <FernandoMiguel> [ 6994.124753] RSP: 0018:ffffffff81c01e18  EFLAGS: 00000202
[17:29] <penguin42> can you pastebin the whole lot?
[17:33] <FernandoMiguel> I think I did....
[17:34] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/746131/
[17:34] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: No, no oops in there
[17:39] <lan3y> loads of updates today
[17:39] <photon> So, what if I don't want to use Unity on 12.04? Can I switch to the "classic" Gnome or Gnome 3.0 interface w/o Unity and if so, is it equally well supported as Unity then?
[17:40] <FernandoMiguel> photon: AFAIVBT fallback/classic will be dropped in the next few weeks
[17:41] <photon> FernandoMiguel: So one is forced to use Unity?
[17:41] <lan3y> photon, yes
[17:42] <photon> well, then goodbye Ubuntu.
[17:42] <photon> thanks guys.
[17:43] <lan3y> well you've had time to get use to it though, i think it's quite nice
[17:43] <photon> And I had taken that time, and didn't like it. At all.
[17:43] <penguin42> photon: kubuntu, or xubuntu (xfce) still works more like old school
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> photon: I changed to it last night
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> giving it a try
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> still not convinced
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> but I admit there are some good things
[17:51] <alex_mayorga> does anyone here can pick up bug 893328?
[18:25] <micahg> alex_mayorga: BTW, cross-posting in multiple channels is usually not a good thing, also this channel is specifically for the development release
[19:22] <penguin42> Anyone know what to do with bug 658521 ? It was fixed post Natty Alpha-1 but someone is saying in #57 that it regressed on Oneiric - is that an open a new one or somehow open it for Oneiric, I guess the important one is making sure it works in PP
[21:21] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[22:10] <FernandoMiguel> what do I need to do, to get virtualbox to work?
[22:10] <FernandoMiguel> tried 3 diff kernels and all are busted
[22:19] <FernandoMiguel> so, Google Talk Plugin is broken in Ubuntu 12.04... stupid ia32-libs migration to multi arch.
[22:19] <FernandoMiguel> i setup a VB VM to use ubuntu 11.10, and guess what? kernel 3.2 doesnt support it
[22:19] <FernandoMiguel> FML
[22:19] <FernandoMiguel> I guess I should just go with KVM
[22:52] <LjL> is Precise in a functioning state right now?
[22:52] <FernandoMiguel> HAHAHAH
[22:52] <LjL> no?
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> VB is broken, suspend is broken, multiarch/ia32libs is broken......
[22:53] <LjL> what is VB?
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> other than that, it works
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> Virtual Box
[22:53] <LjL> oh, well, i guess i only care about suspend
[22:53] <FernandoMiguel> yeah
[22:54] <LjL> and i could live without that if wireless had a chance of working a little better than it does in Oneiric :\