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penguin42anyone seen odd networking issues with +1 ? I saw the following in my NAT box log: [231079.326857] martian source 91.189.94.25 from 192.168.122.77, on dev eth213:35
penguin42now, 192.168.122.77 is the IP of my PP vm, 91.189.94.25 is an IP of a canonical box13:35
penguin42doesn't seem to be doing any more of them, but it's an odd one13:37
BluesKajHiyas all14:03
penguin42Hey BK14:09
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BluesKajhi p4214:14
BluesKajwow, updated upgraded my other pc last night and I din't notice that it was gonna remove most of the desktop etc , had to reinstall X and the kubuntu-desktop14:16
FernandoMiguelI'm sad14:17
FernandoMigueleven kernel 3.2 aint any good with my battery14:17
FernandoMiguelit lasts 3h :\ on windows it estimates 9h14:17
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Have you tried passing the flags for PCIe power saving?14:17
FernandoMiguelwhat's the best way to debug suspend not working ? both system wide and pm-suspend just wake up14:18
FernandoMiguelpenguin42: no14:18
FernandoMiguellet me install power top14:18
FernandoMiguelforgot to do it before14:18
FernandoMiguelyou guys have no idea the effort im doing to keep running Unity14:19
FernandoMiguelthis UI is so clutherd14:19
FernandoMiguelwastes too much space in my POV14:19
FernandoMiguelweird for a DE that is supposed to be minimalistic14:19
bjsniderthey're all moving in that direction14:20
penguin42FernandoMiguel: It's interesting, in some ways I find Unity good for screen space; I mean it saves the menu bar on every window, and the scrollbars take very little space, and when the side bar gets out of the way it doesn't take any space14:21
ior3kFernandoMiguel: why do you say it's cluttered?14:22
FernandoMiguelpenguin42: I agree but for me is other things14:22
FernandoMiguelior3k: hard to describe.. mainly the thing that has been making me move from gnome2/fallback14:22
bjsniderunity, gnome-shell, ios, windows 8+ are all moving in the same direction14:23
FernandoMiguelthe way windows are organized14:23
FernandoMiguelI never know what I have open, or easy way to jump to which one14:23
ior3kFernandoMiguel: here are a few tips... they'd be more useful if compiz wasn't in such a buggy state, but anyway:14:23
FernandoMigueldon't know if I have a new email, or if someone spoke to me in pidgin, or even how many browser windows are open14:23
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Because you can't see a window list?14:23
ior3k#1 enable the dim inactive plugin14:23
FernandoMiguelI've learn to rely on deskbar notification14:24
FernandoMigueland now, they are gone14:24
FernandoMiguelior3k: I love compiz... have since I got a nvidia GPU powered laptop lol... when I had my 1st laptop with just an intel I used to think compiz was only eye candy14:25
ior3k#2 go to window decoration plugins, where it says "Decoration Windows", clear that14:25
ior3kFernandoMiguel: I love it too14:25
FernandoMiguelnow I've learn to use compiz to improve my usability and access to content14:25
ior3kthe problem is that it has a few bugs pending fixing right now14:25
FernandoMiguelok, applying those changes... I'll probably kill compiz with it14:25
ior3k#3 enable the grid plugin14:26
FernandoMiguelI'm used to it... already have handy alias for restring it14:26
ior3kthat allows you to easily tile windows14:26
ior3khaha14:26
FernandoMiguelgrid??? really?14:26
FernandoMiguelexpose MUCH better14:26
FernandoMiguelsuper w14:26
ior3kI like my windows side by side :)14:26
bjsnideri thought the messaging menu was supposed to notify you if you have new mail or someone pinged you in pidgin etc.14:26
FernandoMiguelbjsnider: you supposed correctly .... it doesn't. at least not to me14:27
FernandoMiguelgwibber floods it... so its useless14:27
ior3kbjsnider: FernandoMiguel: keep in mind that, if you're using pidgin, you need to configure it properly for it to use messaging menu notifications14:27
bjsniderwell, gnome-shell's notification system lets me know if any of that stuff happens14:27
FernandoMiguela blueish icon says nothing to me... my eyes ignore it... why do you think google made theirs RED ?14:27
FernandoMiguelior3k: what's "properly"?14:28
ior3kFernandoMiguel: you need to enable the libnotify plugin14:28
ior3kthere are also other things you can do, there's a plugin that allows you to configure urgency, etc14:28
FernandoMiguelwhere? I'm lost14:28
ior3kfocus pidgin buddy list -> tools -> plugins -> enable libnotify popups and configure it14:29
ior3kthe plugin name is "libnotify popups" in case I wasn't clear enough :)14:30
FernandoMigueland we are back... compiz made BOOM14:30
ior3kyeah, for such a critical piece of infrastructure it really is very buggy14:30
ior3kI still love it though14:31
FernandoMiguelI've had libnotify ON for years... since we got the new bubbles14:31
FernandoMiguel:D14:31
ior3kah, well14:31
bjsniderFernandoMiguel, is your wifi chip broadcom?14:45
FernandoMiguelno idea14:48
FernandoMiguelhave to check14:48
FernandoMiguel09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34)14:48
photonSo, what if I don't want to use Unity on 12.04? Can I switch to the "classic" Gnome or Gnome 3.0 interface and if so, is it equally well supported as Unity then?16:57
FernandoMiguel Usage     Device name17:20
FernandoMiguel              7,1%        CPU use17:20
FernandoMiguel            100,0%        Audio codec hwC0D0: Conexant (pulseaudio )17:20
FernandoMiguel            100,0%        Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel17:20
FernandoMiguel             47,8%        Display backlight17:20
FernandoMiguel             46,7%        Display backlight17:20
FernandoMiguelthe audio system is using ALL my CPU??? WTH17:20
penguin42FernandoMiguel: I've seen that if it's continually crashing17:21
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Any audio related dmesg ?17:21
FernandoMiguel[10906.418984] scsi: killing requests for dead queue17:25
FernandoMiguelWOW17:26
FernandoMiguel$ pastebinit /var/log/dmesg17:26
FernandoMiguelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17:26
FernandoMiguelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/746131/17:26
FernandoMiguelkernel is crashing17:27
FernandoMiguela LOT17:27
FernandoMiguelneed to debug this further17:27
penguin42where?17:27
penguin42that log just moans about smbd17:27
FernandoMiguel[ 6994.124740] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: G         C O 3.2.0-1-generic #1-Ubuntu Dell Inc. Vostro V131/0P0TH617:28
FernandoMiguel[ 6994.124745] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff8136822d>]  [<ffffffff8136822d>] intel_idle+0xed/0x15017:28
FernandoMiguel[ 6994.124753] RSP: 0018:ffffffff81c01e18  EFLAGS: 0000020217:28
penguin42can you pastebin the whole lot?17:29
FernandoMiguelI think I did....17:33
FernandoMiguelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/746131/17:34
penguin42FernandoMiguel: No, no oops in there17:34
lan3yloads of updates today17:39
photonSo, what if I don't want to use Unity on 12.04? Can I switch to the "classic" Gnome or Gnome 3.0 interface w/o Unity and if so, is it equally well supported as Unity then?17:39
FernandoMiguelphoton: AFAIVBT fallback/classic will be dropped in the next few weeks17:40
photonFernandoMiguel: So one is forced to use Unity?17:41
lan3yphoton, yes17:41
photonwell, then goodbye Ubuntu.17:42
photonthanks guys.17:42
lan3ywell you've had time to get use to it though, i think it's quite nice17:43
photonAnd I had taken that time, and didn't like it. At all.17:43
penguin42photon: kubuntu, or xubuntu (xfce) still works more like old school17:43
FernandoMiguelphoton: I changed to it last night17:44
FernandoMiguelgiving it a try17:44
FernandoMiguelstill not convinced17:44
FernandoMiguelbut I admit there are some good things17:44
alex_mayorgadoes anyone here can pick up bug 893328?17:51
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 893328 could not be found17:51
micahgalex_mayorga: BTW, cross-posting in multiple channels is usually not a good thing, also this channel is specifically for the development release18:25
penguin42Anyone know what to do with bug 658521 ? It was fixed post Natty Alpha-1 but someone is saying in #57 that it regressed on Oneiric - is that an open a new one or somehow open it for Oneiric, I guess the important one is making sure it works in PP19:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 658521 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Marvell 9128 PCIe SATA] In Live session or installation HD not recognized" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65852119:22
FernandoMiguelevening21:21
FernandoMiguelwhat do I need to do, to get virtualbox to work?22:10
FernandoMigueltried 3 diff kernels and all are busted22:10
FernandoMiguelso, Google Talk Plugin is broken in Ubuntu 12.04... stupid ia32-libs migration to multi arch.22:19
FernandoMigueli setup a VB VM to use ubuntu 11.10, and guess what? kernel 3.2 doesnt support it22:19
FernandoMiguelFML22:19
FernandoMiguelI guess I should just go with KVM22:19
LjLis Precise in a functioning state right now?22:52
FernandoMiguelHAHAHAH22:52
LjLno?22:52
FernandoMiguelVB is broken, suspend is broken, multiarch/ia32libs is broken......22:53
LjLwhat is VB?22:53
FernandoMiguelother than that, it works22:53
FernandoMiguelVirtual Box22:53
LjLoh, well, i guess i only care about suspend22:53
FernandoMiguelyeah22:53
LjLand i could live without that if wireless had a chance of working a little better than it does in Oneiric :\22:54

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