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| SpamapS | Hmm.. do we need NLS in the wget udeb? that would be another 3k down.. | 00:06 |
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| cjwatson | SpamapS: we shouldn't | 00:09 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: right, BB doesn't have any either by the looks of it | 00:09 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: since I have you here, how do you feel about -Os ? I've never used it.. but it did drop nearly 20kB off the code size (and 10kB off the udeb size) for wget | 00:10 |
| cjwatson | SpamapS: *shrug* | 00:19 |
| cjwatson | SpamapS: we use it in a few places in d-i I think | 00:19 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: ACK. uploaded a new wget with as many disables and optimizations as I could find in 2 hours. | 00:19 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: from 159K to 130K | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | better than nowt | 00:20 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: note that the rebuild just with precise's toolchain raised it from 152K to 159K | 00:20 |
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| slangasek | broder: cool :) | 02:46 |
| An-iSociaL | whatup! ubuntu is booted with xdesktop on my Motorola Xoom! | 02:56 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 05:32 |
| An-iSociaL | mornin | 05:32 |
| * SpamapS takes a deep breath and uploads mysql 5.5 | 06:53 | |
| broder | bdrung: fyi, it looks like bug #808767 no longer affects the lintian build; i can build 2.5.4 on precise-i386 without error | 07:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 808767 in binutils (Ubuntu) "objdump --only-keep-debug cause the resulting binary to be statically linked on i386 arch" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808767 | 07:50 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:03 |
| pitti | hm, today's images grew by 8 MB | 09:42 |
| sladen | pitti: KDE update last night/ | 09:42 |
| pitti | no, Ubuntu's | 09:42 |
| * pitti checks | 09:42 | |
| pitti | == Added packages == | 09:43 |
| pitti | libicu48 (8.1 MB) | 09:43 |
| pitti | ah, there we go | 09:43 |
| pitti | libicu44 still has a few rdepends | 09:43 |
| pitti | also, it was only 7 MB | 09:43 |
| pitti | but at least the bulk of it will resolve itself with NBS | 09:44 |
| micahg | pitti: can I get you do 2 PPA copies for me | 10:19 |
| pitti | micahg: beer accepted | 10:19 |
| pitti | micahg: sure, which? | 10:19 |
| micahg | pitti: ubuntu-mozilla-security, firefox 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.3 to ubuntu/primary oneiric (Security) and firefox - 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 to natty-security | 10:20 |
| pitti | micahg: done | 10:24 |
| micahg | pitti: thanks :) | 10:24 |
| hadess | somebody tell diwic to stop creating surveys for software he doesn't maintain | 10:35 |
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| sladen | pitti: has there been a recent upload to xdg-user-dirs? bug #893526 has just been filed by a user. We've seen it before as bug #209513 but what concerns me this time around is wanting to rename ~/./ to ~/Public/ (ie move folders between different levels) | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 893526 in xdg-user-dirs (Ubuntu) "Post login shows dialogue to rename homedir to homedir/Public" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893526 | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 209513 in xdg-user-dirs (Ubuntu) "After upgrade, "Update standard folders to current language" threatens to rename your home folder" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209513 | 11:04 |
| pitti | this question also happens if you change your locale | 11:05 |
| pitti | sladen: last upload was mid June | 11:06 |
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| cjwatson | pitti: icu> yep, remaining unuploaded piece in main is libreoffice; see last night's conversation ... | 11:12 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right, seems fine; just wanted to make sure it's not something less transietn | 11:13 |
| pitti | and yay typing | 11:13 |
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| sladen | pitti: the user claims not to have | 12:02 |
| pitti | slangasek: is that oneiric or precise? might be a lightdm change | 12:04 |
| pitti | slangasek, TheMuso: uploaded GTK 3 multiarch-ification, FYI | 12:11 |
| pitti | TheMuso: so you can probably re-enable it in at-spi again, too | 12:12 |
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| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | do we need to file rm bugs for sources that got dropped from debian because they are deprecated and non maintained and buggy? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | or is somebody looking at those and mirroring the action in Ubuntu every now and then? (looking at pessulus in this case) | 15:14 |
| pitti | occasionally; that's "process-removals" | 15:16 |
| pitti | seb128: so, no need to file them now | 15:16 |
| pitti | in fact, I'll take a run through this | 15:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, thanks | 15:16 |
| pitti | Riddell: libkipi was removed from Debian (debian bug 615579), with "taken over by kdegraphics from kde4"; but we still have rdepends | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 615579 in ftp.debian.org "RM: libkipi -- ROM; obsolete, taken over by kdegraphics from kde4" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/615579 | 15:20 |
| pitti | Riddell: should we follow suit, or keep the sourrce? | 15:20 |
| Riddell | pitti: let me investigate | 15:24 |
| Riddell | upstream aren't entirely consistent there | 15:24 |
| Riddell | pitti: libkipi has indeed been merged into kdegraphics but now kdegraphics is released as separate split tars so we have libkipi again, so please keep it | 15:28 |
| pitti | Riddell: ah, ok; so eventually Debian will do the same, I figure | 15:28 |
| pitti | Riddell: thanks for checking! | 15:29 |
| Riddell | right | 15:29 |
| pitti | cjwatson, mterry: I think I fixed the libgail-3-common induced uninstallability now | 15:30 |
| pitti | on powerpc/armel buildds need to catch up | 15:31 |
| mterry | pitti, sweet! | 15:36 |
| pitti | mterry: just in case you look at precise_probs and want to LART me :) | 15:37 |
| mterry | :) | 15:37 |
| pitti | in hindsight I should have updated seeds and -meta first, then gtk | 15:37 |
| Andy80 | hi all | 15:59 |
| Andy80 | where can I find informations/tutorials about splitting something in multiple packages? (for example: foo, foo-docs, foo-libs, foo-data ecc....). I've given a look at the official packaging documentation but it looks like this thing is not covered (at least on the doc I was reading it wasn't). Thanks! | 16:01 |
| SpamapS | Andy80: I'm not sure there are specific guides for that.. but usually you will need to be more explicit with each of the .install/.docs files to specify the package name.. and add sections to the control file for each | 16:31 |
| * SpamapS changes gears | 16:32 | |
| SpamapS | so, I uploaded a merge of mysql-5.5 from Debian experimental and since it is new to Ubuntu, its in the NEW queue. Does it have to pass a full NEW review or am I just waiting for an AA to ack it? | 16:32 |
| pitti | SpamapS: as long as it's a sync, we usually just wave it through | 16:36 |
| pitti | SpamapS: so if it's a merge, an AA will at least have to do some cursory checks | 16:36 |
| SpamapS | pitti: ACK.. so is there anyone I can poke for an expedite? I need to get the libmysqlclient transition rolling. :-P | 16:52 |
| pitti | SpamapS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Archive_days says Riddell is the master of the day, but not sure whether that's still current | 16:52 |
| Riddell | pitti: actually I'm just doing my first archive duties for many months | 16:53 |
| Riddell | SpamapS: what needs doing? | 16:53 |
| pitti | Riddell: ah, still know the knobs? :-) | 16:54 |
| SpamapS | Riddell: mysql-5.5 .. merge from Debian experimental is in the NEW queue. | 16:54 |
| SpamapS | Riddell: I would be most overjoyed if you could give it a high priority. Thanks! :) | 16:54 |
| Riddell | SpamapS: then I'll get to it shortly as I do New processing (unless there's a paticular hurry) | 16:54 |
| SpamapS | Riddell: next few hours is fine. It will take 2 hours to build, and then I have to start a rather large transition for the new libmysqlclient | 16:55 |
| Riddell | that'll be fun :) | 16:56 |
| pitti | SpamapS: ugh, ABI change? happy buildd warming :) | 16:56 |
| Riddell | SpamapS: you'll probably need to poke me again once it's built then to let the New binaries in | 16:57 |
| pitti | Riddell: JFYI, I'm currently running process-removals (man, looong backlog), so if you try to run some tools and you don't get a lock, that'd be me | 16:57 |
| pitti | please poke me if you need it | 16:57 |
| Riddell | ack | 16:57 |
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| SpamapS | Riddell: will do. :) | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | pitti: what was fun was convincing MySQL upstream that there actually was an ABI change.. they didn't believe it until we showed them the crashes *of their own client software* | 17:02 |
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| pitti | superm1: ah, I can't push to ~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes -- can you please change ttf-droid to fonts-droid and ttf-liberation to fonts-liberation? (presumably some more fonts, too) | 17:03 |
| pitti | superm1: they recently got renamed | 17:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: argh, sorry -- I removed ttf-farsiweb, saw too late that it is used by d-i; it was renamed to fonts-* | 17:06 |
| superm1 | pitti: can you give me a merge request, i'll sort out the permissions problem later and merge it? | 17:09 |
| superm1 | (assuming you already made changes locally of course) | 17:09 |
| pitti | superm1: not yet, I just saw that I can't push the branch | 17:09 |
| pitti | but can do | 17:09 |
| slangasek | pitti: multiarchification - whee, thanks :) | 17:10 |
| pitti | superm1: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/mythtv/font-rename/+merge/83047 | 17:14 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I pushed the change to bzr, but as I haven't done a d-i upload yet I rather don't try it now without your guidance | 17:18 |
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| bryceh | pitti, have you heard of anyone having troubles building pbuilder images for precise? I posted my log at #893700. | 18:10 |
| seb128 | bryceh, he left for the day but that doesn't seem really pitti specific | 18:11 |
| seb128 | that maybe something the stable team can help with? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | i.e cjwatson or mterry | 18:11 |
| bryceh | seb128, ok | 18:11 |
| mterry | y | 18:12 |
| mterry | o | 18:12 |
| * mterry looks at bug | 18:12 | |
| bryceh | heya mterry, I poked around to see if anyone got that same error as I but found nothing; wondering if it's some odd perl conflict | 18:13 |
| bryceh | or something particular to the pbuilder version I have installed | 18:13 |
| mterry | bryceh, hm maybe cjwatson would know right away, he did the perl transition | 18:14 |
| broder | bryceh: debootstrap was having issues with perl | 18:14 |
| broder | perl-modules in particular | 18:14 |
| broder | cjwatson fixed it with the most recent debootstrap upload to unstable, if you want to grab that | 18:14 |
| bryceh | broder, ah that sounds like a plausible suspect | 18:14 |
| broder | (as i recall, both the old and new versions of perl-modules were still getting published, and debootstrap couldn't handle it) | 18:15 |
| bryceh | broder, ah | 18:15 |
| bryceh | hmm, not sure if I can direct pbuilder to pull bits from debian, but sounds like we'll be syncing that in before too long? | 18:16 |
| broder | bryceh: you use your own debootstrap, not the chroots | 18:16 |
| broder | so you can just install it on your host machine | 18:17 |
| broder | err, not host, but ykwim | 18:17 |
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| bryceh | broder, awesome, it built the precise pbuilder image now, thanks! | 18:34 |
| broder | np :) | 18:34 |
| SpamapS | Crap.. mysql 5.5 FTBFS on armel | 18:37 |
| SpamapS | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/85702840/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.mysql-5.5_5.5.17-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:37 |
| SpamapS | /build/buildd/mysql-5.5-5.5.17/sql-common/client_plugin.c:247:5: error: incompatible type for argument 5 of 'add_plugin' | 18:38 |
| SpamapS | Guessing this is a common failure | 18:38 |
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| Sarvatt | SpamapS: http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=62769 | 18:52 |
| SpamapS | Sarvatt: nice.. thanks! | 18:53 |
| jono | hey all | 18:57 |
| jono | is Precise reasonably stable at the moment? | 18:57 |
| jono | I am thinking of upgrading | 18:57 |
| * SpamapS dist-upgraded a week ago but has yet to reboot | 19:04 | |
| bryceh | jono, I've just upgraded one system and fresh-installed 3 others | 19:18 |
| bryceh | jono, aside from a few assorted glitches (that I think you'd be unlikely to see) it went smoothly | 19:19 |
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| jono | thanks bryceh | 19:25 |
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| Thetawaves | WW: Explicitly asked to ignore failures (probably not good) | 19:51 |
| Thetawaves | II: New modules (you've been busy, wipe the poop off your nose) | 19:51 |
| cjwatson | pitti: fonts-farsiweb> that's fine, thanks - no urgency on an upload, it can go into the next one that's needed for some other reason. I've committed the corresponding seed change too | 20:22 |
| cjwatson | bryceh: oh, yeah, I meant to sync debootstrap from unstable today for that but forgot (something to do with being on holiday maybe ;-) ). Synced now | 20:23 |
| bryceh | cjwatson, thanks. Should the fix be sru'd, for folks that are doing pbuilder of precise on stable series? | 20:27 |
| bryceh | cjwatson, if you can point me at the appropriate patch I can do the sru grunt work on it. | 20:27 |
| cjwatson | bryceh: I commented on the bug. I don't think it will get through the SRU process before the archive is changed such that it goes away on its own | 20:28 |
| bryceh | cjwatson, ah ok | 20:28 |
| cjwatson | bryceh: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debootstrap.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fbf86aa8fbcd06cb62fddddcfd4605fef2ee8b2 if you want, though | 20:28 |
| cjwatson | I could put it in -backports, that would be quicker | 20:29 |
| cjwatson | (after this sync publishes) | 20:29 |
| bryceh | cjwatson, ah that's not a bad idea | 20:29 |
| bryceh | cjwatson, I'll wontfix the natty/oneiric tasks unless you think there's any chance that this could recur such as when q-series opens? | 20:33 |
| cjwatson | at the very least it will recur at each perl transition | 20:36 |
| broder | cjwatson: :-/ i recognize that we can move packages faster through -backports, but i'm not super thrilled about using backports for bugfixes | 20:41 |
| jtaylor | has someone looked at backport sphinx 1.07? | 20:43 |
| broder | jtaylor: bug #? | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | none yet | 20:44 |
| broder | then probably not :-P | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | I'm asking first, not that I do duplicate work | 20:44 |
| Laney | everything ought to be on bugs | 20:45 |
| jtaylor | would be quite useful for some python pacakges using dh_sphinxdoc | 20:45 |
| broder | searching the ubp project, i see bug #256017 and bug #291825, both of which should be killed off at this point anyway | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256017 in Hardy Backports "Please backport python-sphinx 0.4-1 from intrepid to hardy" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256017 | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291825 in Hardy Backports "please backport sphinx 0.4.2-1 from Intrepid to Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291825 | 20:45 |
| broder | but nothing recent | 20:46 |
| jtaylor | k thx | 20:46 |
| broder | jtaylor: i'd encourage you to play with requestbackport in ubuntu-dev-tools, either from precise or from ppa:udt-developers/daily | 20:47 |
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| tumbleweed | broder: oh, I never added existing backport searching to requestbackport | 20:48 |
| broder | tumbleweed: yeah, but i'm slowly ramping up to encouraging people to always using it for opening new bugs anyway | 20:48 |
| cjwatson | broder: Well, it's not so much that as that historically I've kept debootstrap up to date in -backports anyway because lots of people want the new scripts symlink | 20:48 |
| broder | cjwatson: i thought we sru'd those... | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | Somebody started SRUing them without asking me first | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | I'd already been backporting them for some time before that | 20:49 |
| Laney | i only see it in updates for lucid | 20:49 |
| broder | heh, ok. i have no problem if there's precedent | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | So basically it's a mess | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | Alternatively somebody could upload the relevant bits of KDE to make perlkde buildable and then the problem will go away for now :-) | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | In principle perl transitions should be completeable in about two or three days; less if we had good enough tools to stage them somewhere | 20:51 |
| Laney | It does seem more appropriate to cherry-pick that fix for SRU, but I recognise that it may be more work than it's worth. So I'm happy with carrying on keeping debootstrap more-or-less up to date in backports.. | 20:51 |
| Riddell | I am in the proccess of merging and uploading large parts of KDE so it should happen soon | 20:52 |
| cjwatson | it's just smokekde and okular I think, if I can convince you to prioritise :-) | 20:53 |
| Riddell | I'll see what I can do | 20:53 |
| cjwatson | cool | 20:54 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Thanks./ | 21:01 |
| jtaylor | cjwatson: you merged svn last, are you considering fixing bug 881862 in oneiric? | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 881862 in subversion (Ubuntu) "svn up Segmentation Fault" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881862 | 21:09 |
| jtaylor | it would be shame when the good triaging of the reporter goes to waste | 21:09 |
| jtaylor | the issue should be fixed in precise with the merge | 21:10 |
| RainCT | pitti: Hey. Any idea why the Traceback of bug #760111 & dupes show "/home/username" (ie. with "username", literally) as the path? | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 760111 in zeitgeist (Ubuntu Precise) "zeitgeist-daemon crashed with OSError in makedirs(): [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/ubuntu/.local/share/zeitgeist'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760111 | 21:42 |
| seb128 | RainCT, some users consider their login name to be private info, apport replace it for privacy reasons | 21:57 |
| RainCT | seb128: it's still in the bug titles, though | 21:57 |
| seb128 | "bug" ;-) | 21:57 |
| seb128 | the intend is to hide it | 21:57 |
| seb128 | the title case was not considered I guess | 21:58 |
| RainCT | seb128: Okay, thanks for the info. So it's not XDG_HOME being messed up or something :P | 21:58 |
| seb128 | no it's not ;-) | 21:58 |
| seb128 | " def anonymize(self): | 21:59 |
| seb128 | '''Remove user identifying strings from the report. | 21:59 |
| seb128 | This particularly removes the user name, host name, and IPs | 21:59 |
| seb128 | from attributes which contain data read from the environment, and | 21:59 |
| seb128 | removes the ProcCwd attribute completely. | 21:59 |
| seb128 | ''' | 21:59 |
| seb128 | " | 21:59 |
| seb128 | RainCT, ^ that's what apport is doing basically (that's from report.py in the apport source code) | 21:59 |
| bdrung | broder: k, synced | 22:30 |
| szymon_g | hi | 23:16 |
| szymon_g | hm... why does ubuntu have 2 installation-cd: "desktop" and alternate? wouldn't it be easier to keep it on one (since space isn't that big problem- it will be to big for cd anyway...)? | 23:18 |
| penguin42 | szymon_g: Don't forget the desktop is also a live cd | 23:26 |
| RAOF | szymon_g: You don't need both the alternate and desktop installers; they're two different ways to arrive at the same installed system. | 23:27 |
| szymon_g | penguin42, yes, i know. i wonder- why they are seperated: on the start of system /when you choose like "check cd for defects" "check memory" etc etc/ someone could choose: either livecd /and maybe simple install from it/ or "advanced" way- i.e. textual installer, with lvm/raid etc | 23:29 |
| szymon_g | so it would be easier for some people /like me: no need to get 2 images: livecd for checking how unity has been changed + alternate for installing on lvm/raid/ | 23:30 |
| TheMuso | szymon_g: That used to be available in the DVD version. | 23:30 |
| szymon_g | "used to be" :? | 23:30 |
| szymon_g | was dvd ceased? | 23:30 |
| TheMuso | As of oneiric, I believe the DVD version in that form is no longer available. | 23:30 |
| RAOF | They're separated because you can't fit both of them on the same CD. | 23:30 |
| TheMuso | There is still a DVD version, but its a live system only, and much smaller. | 23:31 |
| szymon_g | RAOF, but the next ubuntu wont be on CD either | 23:31 |
| RAOF | It will be if it fits :) | 23:31 |
| szymon_g | and textual installer + lvm/raid support wont occupy much space | 23:31 |
| TheMuso | Yes it will actually, you need all the debs of the system to be installed. | 23:32 |
| szymon_g | RAOF, i heard rumors that it will be approx 750mb o.O | 23:32 |
| RAOF | Yes, it will. it will occupy 700 MB of space. :) | 23:32 |
| RAOF | There is essentially nothing shared between the livecd and the alternate installer. | 23:32 |
| szymon_g | so- are there any chances to introduce lvm/raid configuration in livecd installer? | 23:33 |
| RAOF | Of course. | 23:33 |
| RAOF | It's a long-standing feature request. | 23:33 |
| TheMuso | But not a priority afaik. | 23:33 |
| RAOF | I don't think that anyone's currently working on it, but if you wanted to I don't know of any reason why good patches wouldn't be accepted. | 23:33 |
| szymon_g | RAOF, i'm just asking. my only programs were "hello world" in C. the most beautiful 32 lines of code you could ever see | 23:34 |
| szymon_g | ;) | 23:34 |
| * Frostbite pats szymon_g | 23:35 | |
| szymon_g | :) btw, is anyone working on delta-deb? | 23:35 |
| szymon_g | it's huge bandwith saving /my record is 96% of savings/ | 23:35 |
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