[00:52] <wakejagr> i have ubuntu server installed on a laptop.  is there a way to remove the waiting for network configuration from the boot scripts?
[00:57] <SpamapS> wakejagr: plug in a network cable? ;)
[00:59] <SpamapS> wakejagr: you can use network-manager w/o the GUI (edit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections and use nmcli) .. or try something like connman. Otherwise, I think we'll add a new 'auto-nowait' group in precise that will allow users in your situation to have an interface that is brought up "when possible" by ifupdown.
[01:01] <wakejagr> thanks for the info
[01:18] <arrrghhh> hey all, i recently added a new user to my server and his internet connection has been flaky
[01:19] <arrrghhh> he had a bunch of failed logins, and now his IP is in hosts.deny
[01:19] <arrrghhh> i removed it, restarted ssh.... and "something" added his IP right back into hosts.deny
[01:19] <arrrghhh> is this dansguardian?  what is adding him right back, and why?
[01:20] <twb> I thought dansguardian was just a shitty proprietary version of squidguard
[01:20] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:21] <arrrghhh> i guess i don't know then
[01:21] <arrrghhh> all i do know, for sure, is that his IP keeps ending up in hosts.deny
[01:21] <arrrghhh> and removing it and restarting ssh did nothing.
[01:21] <twb> That sounds like fail2ban / denyhosts
[01:21] <arrrghhh> ah
[01:21] <arrrghhh> that sounds right
[01:21] <twb> Most things don't write to tcpwrappers
[01:21] <arrrghhh> i think i did fail2ban, can't remember
[01:22] <twb> Which in turn will be because someone is brute-force logging in from his IP and causing one of those two to see (via auth.log) an attack
[01:22] <arrrghhh> i see the refused connections in auth.log
[01:40] <arrrghhh> ah.  well, i guess i shouldn't have asked in here...
[02:00] <twb> Uh, whatever
[02:00] <twb> If you had hung around, I'd have helped more
[02:09] <EvilResistance> heh
[02:53] <Nuc134rB0t> Hello, I installed Webmin because I thought I could manage it from Terminal then I found out I need a browser and w3m is too complicated, so I'm installing ubuntu-desktop. Is that ok or I'm just missing the whole concept of Server with no GUI?
[02:53] <twb> w3m is too complicated?
[02:54] <twb> What's simpler?  curl?
[02:54] <Nuc134rB0t> to manage webmin I think yes.
[02:54] <twb> Don't use webmin.
[02:54] <Nuc134rB0t> What should I?
[02:54] <twb> If you can't administer a system from the command line, you shouldn't be in charge of it
[02:55] <twb> If you really must have a web UI, I believe ebox is the flavour du jour, but IMO they're all terrible
[02:55] <Nuc134rB0t> That is true, but this is just a home server for learining propuses, not my work.
[02:55] <twb> My position still holds
[02:56] <Nuc134rB0t> How do you recommend I learn the use use a server then?
[02:57] <Nuc134rB0t>  How do you recommend I learn the use of a server then?*
[02:57] <twb> By asking questions here
[02:57] <twb> And reading the Ubuntu Server Guide
[02:58] <Nuc134rB0t> But you are suggesting me to not be in charge of my own server I installed to learn how it works.
[02:59] <twb> No, I'm saying either learn how it works or don't use it.
[02:59] <twb> Deploying webmin will not teach you how a server works.
[02:59] <Nuc134rB0t> Oh! good then.
[02:59] <twb> Such tools exist specifically so people DON'T have to learn
[03:00] <Nuc134rB0t> Haven't seen it that way.
[03:00] <qman__> also, this
[03:00] <qman__> !webmin | Nuc134rB0t
[03:00] <twb> qman__: heh, I hesitated to paste the dpkg bot's version
 Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.  See <free whc
[03:01] <twb> p> for alternatives.
[03:01] <qman__> installing things like webmin or desktops will not help you learn to administer a server
[03:01] <qman__> webmin is a crutch for those who don't want to learn, and the GUI does nothing to aid, as all the tools are command line anyway
[03:01] <twb> Hear, hear
[03:02] <twb> In squid, can I say "cache_dir aufs 24GB" instead of "cache_dir aufs 24576" ?
[03:02] <twb> obviously the former is more readable
[03:02] <Nuc134rB0t> qman__, I did not know about the support, thanks.
[03:04] <Nuc134rB0t> I guess I will have to ctrl+x this lol
[03:04] <Nuc134rB0t> Should have asked first.
[03:05] <Nuc134rB0t> i meant ctrl+c
[03:07] <qman__> the server guide is the best place to start
[03:07] <qman__> and find yourself a crash course on bash
[03:08] <twb> qman__: do you know about M-_ in bash?
[03:08] <qman__> I learned it mostly through trial and error, so I can't personally recommend any resources
[03:08] <qman__> can't say I do
[03:08] <twb> Inserts last argument of previous command
[03:08] <twb> e.g. ls -ld foo; rm M-_ ==> rm foo
[03:09] <Nuc134rB0t> Hmm I will think about that, since I know too basic commands for an Ubuntu user since 6.06
[03:09] <twb> It's actually readline, so it works in e.g. python too
[03:09] <qman__> interesting
[04:53] <swharper> question: i have a raid6 config using 11.10 - trying to share /dev/md1 via samba - how do i accomplish that
[05:30] <pythonirc101> does anyone here maintain their own email server ? I've to deploy an email ssytem for a small company (10 people), currently they use gmail, but do not like the fact that google stores their data
[05:30] <pythonirc101> any suggestions on what i should use for a gmail replacement
[05:47] <lifeless> hallyn: where is the upstream for lxcguest? I have a tweak to the /var/run workaround, but want to check my lxcguest.conf isn't just foot-gunning me
[05:58] <SpamapS> lifeless: I believe the Ubuntu package is the upstream.
[05:59] <SpamapS> ./debian/lxcguest.lxcguest.upstart
[06:47] <koolhead17> hi all
[07:11] <twb> SpamapS: surely you don't need both of those lxcguest. 's
[07:13] <SpamapS> twb: indeed, first is package name, second is upstart job name
[07:15] <twb> Yeah but doesn't dh_installinit default to assuming them the same?
[07:15] <twb> It's only if you call dh_installinit with --name fred that it's different or so
[07:15] <SpamapS> not that i know of
[07:15] <twb> Hum
[07:15] <twb> That's lame, because for the sysvinit part I'm pretty sure you can
[07:18] <SpamapS> twb: it may default to the first package in debian/control if its not specified
[07:18] <twb> mm
[08:10] <jamespage> morning all
[08:13] <cwillu_at_work> Thank you for observing law 421:  no morning that started with piping netcat into bash and back shall be called "good".
[08:58] <lynxman> jamespage: morning!
[08:58] <jamespage> morning lynxman
[09:05] <koolhead17> http://xkcd.com/978/ lol
[09:09] <RoyK> http://xkcd.com/979/ was even better :)
[09:10]  * koolhead17 clicks
[09:10] <lynxman> RoyK: LOL
[09:10] <koolhead17> aah RoyK its true. :P
[09:10] <koolhead17> hola lynxman
[09:11] <lynxman> koolhead17: ello O/
[09:11] <lynxman> ouch o/
[09:11] <RoyK> koolhead17: I usually read xkcd every [mon,wed,fri]
[09:12] <koolhead17> lynxman, i been doing that :)
[09:12] <koolhead17> RoyK, so do i at times. :P
[09:13] <koolhead17> Daviey, hi there
[09:13] <koolhead17> there are so many now THB
[09:14] <koolhead17> RoyK, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names
[09:14] <koolhead17> Pink Farting Weasel
[09:14] <koolhead17> hehe
[09:15] <RoyK> koolhead17: erm - yes :P
[09:15] <koolhead17> hello jamespage
[09:19] <jamespage> hi koolhead17
[09:26] <Daviey> koolhead17: hey
[09:26] <koolhead17> Daviey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/893466
[09:26] <koolhead17> :P
[09:26] <Daviey> koolhead17: ahha! thanks
[09:27] <koolhead17> so u need 2 have glance as well as quantum codes in order to have dashboard working
[09:28] <Daviey> koolhead17: Out of interest, what keystone are you using?
[09:29] <koolhead17> Daviey, the one from Github. :(
[09:29] <Daviey> koolhead17: Would you mind trying a PPA for me?
[09:29] <koolhead17> sure. right away
[09:30] <koolhead17> i need to know the PPA details i should add though :P
[09:30] <Daviey> koolhead17: Need to create it first :)
[09:30] <koolhead17> hehe
[09:30] <Daviey> koolhead17: will you be around for a few hours?
[09:30] <koolhead17> let me start a new VM to test this on oneiric
[09:30] <koolhead17> yes sure
[09:30] <koolhead17> till another 8 hrs
[09:30] <koolhead17> :d
[09:32] <Daviey> koolhead17: \o/
[09:40] <koolhead17> BTW http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/11/21/technology-datawind-ubislate.html
[09:41] <koolhead17> cheapest tablet available :P
[09:44] <caribou> Q: Is there a specific procedure to have a package newly included in Debian/Sid also available in Universe ?
[09:46] <caribou> collectl, A very useful data collection tool recently made it to sid and could be handy for us as well
[09:46] <lynxman> caribou: you ask for a sync from debian
[09:46] <caribou> lynxman: who do I ask it to ?
[09:47] <lynxman> caribou: requestsync --lp -d debiandistro packagename ubuntudistro
[09:47] <lynxman> caribou: for example "requestsync --lp -d sid puppet precise"
[09:49] <caribou> cool, tanks lynxman
[09:50] <lynxman> caribou: np :)
[09:56] <caribou> lynxman: maybe I should have checked first, it's already there in precise :)
[09:57] <caribou> Daviey: I don't know if you remember me from UDS-P, I told you about some HP expertise center in Grenoble
[09:57] <Daviey> caribou: I think so, have a pic to hand?
[09:59] <Daviey> caribou: If it's a server related package, please send the bug number returned here; and we'll get it sponsored, thanks.
[09:59] <caribou> Daviey: no longer needed as I just said to lynxman it's already synced in precise
[10:00] <caribou> Daviey: Regarding the expertise center,I just wanted to let you know that I sent an email to my buddy regarding it
[10:03] <Daviey> ah great!
[10:07] <koolhead17> TeTeT, hello there
[10:08] <TeTeT> hi koolhead17
[10:08] <koolhead17> TeTeT, how have you been? long time. :D
[10:09] <TeTeT> koolhead17: doing ok, how about you?
[10:13] <koolhead17> TeTeT, am good. :D
[10:49] <caribou> I have a question regarding packaging
[10:49] <lynxman> caribou: shoot :)
[10:49] <caribou> I need to add a patch I made to the kexec-tools package for testing purposes
[10:49] <caribou> what would be the prefered way to do this ?
[10:49] <caribou> get the package source, add my patch to debian/patches & rebuild ?
[10:50] <caribou> (and to ./patches/00list as well)
[10:50] <lynxman> caribou: yeah, add to changelog to up the version, that's pretty much it (afaict)
[10:50] <caribou> ok, I'll try this out & come crying if I can't get it working :)
[10:51] <lynxman> caribou: good luck :)
[10:57] <koolhead17> *crying
[11:12] <lynxman> koolhead17: don't cry koolhead17
[11:22] <koolhead17> lynxman, just had chocolate so am better. :D
[11:25] <lynxman> koolhead17: good good :)
[11:34] <Vir> Hi, what error is behind "Waiting for network configuration..."? I.e. it waits for several minutes at boot with that message. And I have no idea how to fix it. There's one DHCP interface, the rest is static. The DHCP works fine. What could it be?
[11:54] <koolhead17> Vir, is the dynamic interface default one <eth0> ?
[11:54] <Vir> yes
[11:55] <Vir> koolhead17: why do you call it "default" BTW?
[11:56] <koolhead17> Vir, because i had similar problem when i was trying to use DHCP via cobbler
[11:57] <Vir> koolhead17: I looked into syslog and it shows that DHCP configuration takes about 10s
[11:57] <Vir> but on boot it shows "Waiting for network configuration ..." "Waiting up to 60 more seconds [...]"
[11:57] <koolhead17> Vir, can`t that be because of your DHCP server connectivity
[11:57] <Vir> koolhead17: what do you mean?
[11:58] <koolhead17> Vir, leasing time by dhcp server
[11:58] <Vir> koolhead17: dhclient: bound to 10.83.255.6 -- renewal in 1786 seconds.
[12:00] <Vir> this time syslog shows DHCP config took 5s. Bootup was stuck for 2 minutes at least
[12:01] <Vir> I don't understand this in any case. What DHCP servers require > 30s to answer?
[12:08] <Vir> OK, now to my real problem. Kernel 3.0.0 (Oneiric) doesn't boot: http://compeng.uni-frankfurt.de/~kretz/screenshot.png
[12:08] <Vir> it just hangs there
[12:09] <Vir> 2.6.38 and 2.6.32 boot (but with 2 minutes waiting for some network configuration that's all good already)
[12:11] <Vir> executing fsck from recovery boot now - but I just did that a few minutes earlier from the 2.6.38 kernel
[12:23] <Vir> finally found the problem: I used cgroups on that server before (for LXC) and had a line in /etc/fstab to mount it to /cgroups. Without this line the server can boot again.
[12:23] <Vir> This mount will be rather common on server installations - everybody that used LXC will have it.
[12:23] <Vir> All of those systems will break when they upgrade.
[12:38] <Vir> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcgroup/+bug/893550
[12:48] <caribou> :q
[13:02] <koolhead17> Vir, cool :)
[13:02] <Vir> took me ~4h to find this - I hope others won't need this long now
[13:03] <koolhead17> Vir, +1
[13:35] <koolhead17> zul, hey
[13:37] <mmcji> At work I  have the job of installing several new dns servers.  These servers handle allot of dns traffic.  We already have an aging OpenBSD dns server, and several running on different versions of CentOS.  I have been using Ubuntu server for years at home and am more comfortable with it.  Is the default dns server that can be installed with ubuntu server suitable / secure for the enterprise environment.   Should it be chrooted?  I would rather use ubu
[13:37] <mmcji> ntu, but I hae to make a case for it vs say OpenBSD.
[13:50] <zul> Daviey: the keystone SRU test can be found at ppa:zulcss/openstack-updates
[13:50] <zul> morning btw
[13:51] <koolhead17> morning zul, is that pkg called python-crypto for keystone? You packaged recently
[13:52] <Daviey> jamespage: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloud-image-testing full drafted?
[13:52] <Daviey> fully*
[13:52] <Daviey> zul: great!
[13:52] <zul> koolhead17: no python passlib
[13:52] <koolhead17> ok
[13:53] <Daviey> jamespage: does https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-complex-deployment-testing need expanding?
[13:54] <Daviey> zul: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack , some of the testing work items - should they be in the complex testing spec?
[13:54] <zul> Daviey: pehaps...yes
[13:55] <Daviey> zul: "Package weekly snapshots of" .. that probably needs to be split by week number, as it cannot be tracked currently.
[13:55] <zul> k
[13:57] <koolhead17> zul, is python-passlib in some PPA >
[13:57] <koolhead17> ?
[13:57] <zul> same pps
[13:57] <zul> ppa even
[13:59] <Daviey> zul: didn't that make it in as an SRU?
[13:59] <zul> Daviey: no it will when we upload keystone
[14:00] <Daviey> zul: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-arm-deployment deprecated with the next steps blueprint?
[14:00] <zul> yeah
[14:00] <Daviey> zul: probably wouldn't hurt for it to bake in th NEW queue first, as it'll require AA approval and SRU.
[14:01] <zul> passlib has already made it in for precise at least
[14:05] <Daviey> cool
[14:06] <Daviey> might not need AA review then, i guess
[14:10] <koolhead17> zul, sorry to ask but python-passlib solves the deps for pycrypto?
[14:10] <zul> koolhead17: it should...but what pycrypto stuff are you talking about?
[14:11] <koolhead17> zul, pycrypto is a package on which dashboard/quantum depands
[14:12] <zul> koolhead17: sure we arent talking about dashboard/quantum we are talking about keystone
[14:12] <koolhead17> zul, oops. am doing both at the moment :P
[14:13] <zul> Daviey: spec updated
[14:14] <koolhead17> zul, am trying to get dashboard working on oneiric from source and there is new pkg/deps called pycrypto. I got the pkg from easy install
[14:14] <zul> koolhead17: ah k
[14:15] <koolhead17> zul, am trying to get dash working by the time i get new keystone PPA :D
[14:15] <Daviey> zul: rocking
[14:36] <mmcji> what version of bind9 is installed on ubuntu server 11.10?
[14:37] <andol> mmcji: 9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu4.1
[14:39] <mmcji> andol: thanks, how do I find the version you just gave me?  What command do I use?  Do you know if this version is susceptible to the recent 0-day bind vulnerability?
[14:42] <rahmen> Hi! I'm not sure if this is more of a firewall problem. I've got a ubuntu server inside my network. I have an internal ip that works fine. On my firewall I try to redirect an external ip to the internal ip with NAT. When I ping I get 100% package loss. Do I have to enable the external ip somehow on the server? I was hoping it would answer as if it was an internal action
[14:42] <jdstrand> mmcji: bind9 is up to date as of last week: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1264-1/
[14:42] <andol> mcpanda: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9 or apt-cache policy bind9 or zless /usr/share/doc/bind9/changelog.Debian.gz
[14:44] <andol> s/mcpanda/mmcji
[14:45] <mmcji> I just updated my dns server.
[14:46] <mmcji> andol: thanks
[14:46] <mmcji> jdstrand: thanks
[15:21] <JerryNJ> I need some assistance configuring LTSP if anyone can help. I know dhcpd is running atm and I need that turned off
[15:21] <JerryNJ> btw - im running Lucid with a single NIC
[15:40] <SpamapS> JerryNJ: man update-rc.d may be of help
[15:41] <JerryNJ> run that?
[15:42] <JerryNJ> that didnt do much exept explain the command
[15:45] <azertyii> hello there
[15:46] <azertyii> on hp server i can 't find /dev/sda
[15:46] <azertyii> is that normal ?
[15:46] <deej1976> azertyii: cat /proc/partitions | pastebinit
[15:47] <azertyii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/746029/ deej1976
[15:48] <koolhead17> grrrrrr http://pypi.python.org/ is taking break it seems
[15:48] <koolhead17> is it for others too?
[15:49] <deej1976> azertyii: Looks like cciss/c0d0 is your first disk
[15:49] <azertyii> what ?
[15:49] <azertyii> how it change the name ?
[15:50] <deej1976> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/cciss_vol_status.8.html
[15:50] <azertyii> and also physically i just only have 2 physical disk, i can't understand why it gives 12 disk ?
[15:50] <deej1976> p1-11 are the paritions on the disks
[15:51] <just-a-visitor> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/pypi.python.org
[15:52] <deej1976> azertyii: It's got a raid controller
[15:53] <deej1976> azertyii: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[16:04] <koolhead17> why python-mysqldb not dependant on mysql-client ?
[16:04] <hk720> h
[16:04] <hk720> hi
[16:05] <hk720> is there anybody know how to add /dev/parport0
[16:11] <azertyii> ok understand deej1976
[16:16] <azertyii> thanks a lot
[16:33] <SpamapS> koolhead17: because python-mysqldb depends on libmysqlclient, mysql-client is the command line
[16:33] <SpamapS> koolhead17: Depends: python2.7, python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python (<< 2.8), libc6 (>= 2.4), libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.1.50-1)
[16:35] <zul> SpamapS: hey just to fyi php is going to ftbfs because of mysql is multiarch now
[16:40] <smb> hallyn, So about bug 607039. Just want to make sure I am doing the right things. I think you saw the problem on Oneiric, too. While it seems to work for me on that release. Just the time it takes to complete a cat after mounting is oddly high (doing a direct mount)
[16:41] <smb> I used two VMs to test and have the nfs mount use a private net.
[16:42] <hallyn> smb, i've seen teh slow cat, i think on precise
[16:42] <hallyn> did i say in the bug that oneiric failed?  i can't recall offhand
[16:43] <hallyn> but at any rate, i think it's purely a nfs-client (userspace?) bug
[16:43] <hallyn> uh, the outright failure that is
[16:43] <hallyn> slow cat, might be somethign else
[16:43] <smb> hallyn, Hm, right I think I saw it there, too. But maybe less reliably. Yes, I think that is it
[16:43] <hallyn> do we have anyone specializing in nfs?
[16:43] <smb> Not that I know off my head
[16:44] <hallyn> then i guess it's us :)
[16:44] <smb> Likely :O)
[16:44] <smb> I was not sure whether it may or may not be related to the nfs4 kernel parts as well
[16:44] <hallyn> anyway i don't mind looking more into it, but all i know right now is in the bug report.
[16:45] <smb> Ok, just wanted to make sure I understand what exactly failed for you on oneiric
[16:45] <hallyn> if you want to set up a time to look at it together we can try that
[16:45] <hallyn> lemme re-read real quick
[16:45] <smb> Because I seemed to be successful
[16:46] <hallyn> ah, i see, maybe i didn't try oneiric!
[16:47] <smb> One confusing thing for me is that I thought with nfsv4 you would use / as the mount dir (which you set up with fsid=root in exports)
[16:47] <hallyn> no idea
[16:47] <hallyn> oh, right, 'mount -t nfs4' fails for me with -ENODEV on my oneiric laptop.
[16:48] <hallyn> so id idn't try the whoel autofs setup as there was no point at that point
[16:48] <smb> Ah ok
[16:48] <hallyn> bound to fail :)
[16:48] <smb> Yes, that I saw as well
[16:48] <hallyn> so if you'd like to assign that to me i don't mind digging deeper.  But it wouldn't be right now.
[16:48] <smb> I think that was the same on precise
[16:48] <hallyn> hm?  no it worked for me on precise
[16:48] <hallyn> (biab)
[16:50] <smb> hallyn, Ok, I think I will spend a bit more time on it and try to catch you tomorrow. Though it could be I am not around long enough... But I will put things into the report
[16:53] <SpamapS> zul: thanks for the heads up.. I expect a lot of FTBFS's ... I'll push it into my test PPA and hopefully have a fix on deck before the transition starts
[16:55] <hallyn> smb, thanks!
[16:56] <SpamapS> zul: note that 5.1 is multiarch now too. :)
[16:56] <zul> SpamapS: lovely
[17:00] <smb> hallyn, Grrr, it seems to be really unreliable. Right now direct mounts (not matter whether -t nfs or -t nfs4) work without any cat timeout. Looking at /proc/mounts there is no difference in option between -t nfs and nfs4. And I did not change anything...
[17:00] <smb> (oneiric that is)
[17:00] <hallyn> odd
[17:01] <SpamapS> argh
[17:01] <SpamapS> two weeks in a row I forgot that the meeting is now at 8:00am for me
[17:01] <smb> It brings a new meaning to daylight saving... :)
[17:34] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5
[17:34] <SpamapS> w00t!
[17:56] <roaksoax> Daviey: so I fixed the cobbler lintian issues but lintian still complains
[17:56] <roaksoax> Daviey: but I think its safe to ignore
[17:59] <p1ruj3> so when i install a printer and it does the search for a network printer it ends up adding the local machines ip to hosts.deny on my samba server... when i remove that entry and restart denyhosts service i still cant connect from local machine but if i reboot i can
[17:59] <SpamapS> roaksoax: curious what its complaints are? Seems like lintian just gets more and more annoying. ;)
[18:00] <roaksoax> SpamapS: just about a license not having its paragraph
[18:00] <SpamapS> roaksoax: I have a fix for those
[18:00] <SpamapS> roaksoax: I think I wrote cobbler's copyright file.. and I used to write them wrong. ;)
[18:00] <SpamapS> roaksoax: branch?
[18:00] <roaksoax> SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/746171/
[18:01] <SpamapS> roaksoax: yeah, you have to add a License: GPL-2 without a Files: attached to it
[18:01] <roaksoax> SpamapS: lintian http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/746172/
[18:02] <SpamapS> roaksoax: or rather, License: GPL-2+
[18:02] <SpamapS> roaksoax: I had to do the same thing for mysql-5.5
[18:02] <roaksoax> SpamapS: right, but it is not complaining about others that are written the same
[18:02] <roaksoax> SpamapS: it complains about paragraph13, and other above it have the same format
[18:02] <roaksoax> and lintian does not complain about it
[18:03] <roaksoax> that's why I rearranged all the GPL-2+ one after the other cause the lintian complain is about one of them
[18:04] <roaksoax> ah I think where the issue is now
[18:04] <SpamapS> roaksoax: you either have to have a paragraph after *every* mention of License: GPL-2+ , or a standalone License: GPL-2+ with no files attached to it that has the paragraph
[18:06] <SpamapS> roaksoax: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/precise/mysql-5.5/merge-from-ddebian/revision/40
[18:06] <SpamapS> roaksoax: see the change on copyright.. same exact issue
[18:06] <roaksoax> let me try it
[18:08] <roaksoax> SpamapS: yep, now';s fixed
[18:08] <roaksoax> SpamapS: thanks for the tip
[18:13] <SpamapS> roaksoax: any time I can give someone tips on how to fix a bug I created.. I'm fine with that. :)
[18:15] <roaksoax> ;)
[18:16] <hallyn> stgraber, despite my assigning bug 893550 to you and asking for feedback, I think I'll go ahead and just make /etc/init/cgroup-lite.conf do a 'stop; exit 0' if it sees an (uncommented) cgroup entry in /etc/fstab
[18:34] <tarvid> freeradius and freeradius-dialupadmin do not play well together
[18:34] <tarvid> the schema for freeradius defines a table radusergroup
[18:34] <tarvid> dialupadmin looks for a table usergroup
[18:35] <tarvid> do I start patching dialupadmin?
[18:37] <Nuc134rB0t> Hello I'm following the https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html at the moment I'm creating the db.192 as told, copying db.127  "sudo cp /etc/bind/db.127 /etc/bind/db.192" now, at the bottom of my db.127 there is a 1.0.0 IN PTR localhost. but in the example in the guide, you can see there is a 10 IN PTR ns.example.com. so what do I replace the 10 or 1.0.0 to? My local IP? My external IP?
[18:41] <stgraber> hallyn: sounds good
[18:46] <tarvid> Nuc134rB0t, You could use a PTR record for every interface on your local lan
[18:47] <tarvid> reverse on the local lan is not a necessity but if can speed up operations that want to reverse things like arp
[18:48] <mterry> Hey, server folk!  keystone is involved in a few component-mismatches: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt    Ideally two things would happen: (A) you guys start filing MIRs for the components you need in main (B) except for python-sqlite which will not enter main.  I can't seem to find anywhere in the code where you import it.  Is that a necessary depends at all?
[18:48] <Nuc134rB0t> tarvid, oh ok, so that means I will still broadcast my website if this is missed configured
[18:50] <zul> mterry: hi...keystone has a MIR that is process
[18:51] <SpamapS> zul: can you spare a panda board for me to do some test rebuilds of mysql 5.5 ?
[18:51] <hallyn> stgraber, oh ffs, i guess libcgroup isn't in server set, i can't upload it
[18:52] <SpamapS> zul: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/85702840/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.mysql-5.5_5.5.17-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  .. I'm guessing there will be more of these failures
[18:52] <SpamapS> (0 needs to be NULL, I think)
[18:52] <hallyn> stgraber, would you have time to upload this?  (it's pretty trivial)  http://people.canonical.com/~serge/cgroup.debdiff
[18:52] <tarvid> Nuc134rB0t, yes if it has a public ip address reachable from the Internet
[18:52] <zul> SpamapS:  you know there are porter machines right?
[18:52] <SpamapS> no
[18:53] <zul> SpamapS: yeah
[18:53] <SpamapS> this is my first armel rodeo
[18:53] <hallyn> jinkeys nautilus is really upset with me
[18:53] <tarvid> But the forward file must work
[18:53] <mterry> zul, can you add its depends as tasks in that MIR?   Also, do you know the deal with python-sqlite in keystone?
[18:53] <zul> mterry:  it uses a database for a backend
[18:54] <zul> ill check though
[18:54] <Nuc134rB0t> tarvid, it does so far, but I'm following the whole guide to see if it is possible to change the IP for a decent domain name.
[18:54] <mterry> I couldn't grep for the import anywhere
[18:54] <zul> mterry: grrr
[18:55] <tarvid> Nuc134rB0t, your IP is issued by your ISP and your domain name must be registered, are you dynamically assigned (DHCP)?
[18:56] <Nuc134rB0t> tarvid, yes I am.
[18:58] <micahg> hallyn: it's in universe still
[18:58] <tarvid> You can't run DNS on a dynamic address so relax and find a workaround, http://dyn.com has worked for me
[18:59] <hallyn> micahg, oh, i didn't realize server set was restricted to things in main.  drat.  thanks.
[19:00] <micahg> hallyn: AFAIK, it's auto-generated from the seed
[19:00] <tarvid> It looks like they want money now so you may have to look around
[19:01] <hallyn> zoneedit has worked for me for years
[19:01] <tarvid> My free account still works
[19:01] <hallyn> micahg, thx
[19:01] <Nuc134rB0t> tarvid, oh!... I'll have to look for a service a can pay with local coin because I don't have easy access to dollars
[19:02] <Nuc134rB0t> tarvid, by the way, thanks.
[19:04] <tarvid> You are welcome. There are many dyndns providers. They accept updates from your interface when DHCP changes
[19:04] <hallyn> does anyone here have an amd box on which they could try kvm of 64-bit linux on top of oneiric?
[19:05] <tarvid> running 11.10 on 11.10 with virtualbox
[19:06] <PedroGomes> Hi, I'm trying to do an unattended install ubuntu with PXE but it stops saying that the hardware needs non-free firmaware. Any advice in how to avoid this ?
[19:08] <SpamapS> PedroGomes: there's a pre-seed option you can fill in that will answer that question
[19:09] <genii-around> Like a post-install directive that installs whatever non-free package to /target
[19:10] <PedroGomes> err, the problem is that it says that the file must be loaded from somewhere else
[19:11] <PedroGomes> but the pre-seed option would do the trick
[19:11] <PedroGomes> thanks
[19:12] <PedroGomes> I guess I have no means of avoiding the pxe templates  :P
[19:35] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: adam_g should we drop the import of Hardy by orchestra-import-isos?
[19:37] <SpamapS> can we even install hardy?
[19:38] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: I think as long as its supported our releases should support installing it.
[19:51] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: ok ;)
[20:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: yeah, agree with SpamapS
[20:10] <RoAkSoAx> ok
[20:11] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Is there something we can do to allow the admin to add future releases themselves?
[20:11] <Daviey> It would kinda suck to SRU a "enable new release".
[20:13] <koolhead17> zul: are you looking for someone to test the newly built keystone PPA
[20:14] <soren> Daviey: We do it all the time for debootstrap.
[20:15] <Daviey> soren: Yes, but this has added complexity.
[20:16] <Daviey> If debootstrap SRU fails, we hinder a developer, right?
[20:16] <Daviey> If orchestra SRU fails... :)
[20:16] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: cobbler-ubuntu-import
[20:17] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: you think it will be ok to do that?
[20:17] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah smoser adding cobbler-ubuntu-import to cobbler last cycle
[20:17] <Daviey> soren: Well if the TB supports doing that, we'll do it :)
[20:17] <soren> Daviey: If there's complexity involved, I wonder how you'd anticipate said complexity (to avoid the SRU).
[20:17] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and you can import a new release by simply: cobbler-ubuntu-import precise-i386
[20:18] <Daviey> ok
[20:21] <adam_g> or by adding it to RELEASES in /etc/orchestra/import_isos
[20:22] <adam_g> but new releases also need to be added to cobbler, otherwise the end up as unknown distro "breeds"
[20:43] <raubvogel> Can anyone explain me the deal with 127.0.1.1? How is it used? Must I have the hostname for a machine using dhcp associated with that IP always?
[20:44] <RoAkSoAx> raubvogel: 127.0.1.1 is an IP address reserved to identify the network card
[20:44] <RoAkSoAx> raubvogel: or localhost
[20:45] <raubvogel> RoAkSoAx: I thought that was 127.0.0.1
[20:46] <RoAkSoAx> raubvogel: its for the localhost
[20:47] <RoAkSoAx> raubvogel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution
[21:18] <raubvogel> RoAkSoAx: I do not remember seeing that in, say, centos. I would have expected to have the machine's IP with the FQDN but I see the reasoning behind that. It almost works as the Solaris hostname.interface
[21:20] <RoAkSoAx> raubvogel: debian specific
[21:20] <semiosis> i'm following the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images to run an Oneiric cloud image KVM guest on my local Oneiric workstation, but I am getting access denied with the ubuntu/passw0rd credentials from those instructions.  please help
[21:20] <RoAkSoAx> semiosis: ubuntu/ubuntu?
[21:21] <semiosis> denied
[21:21] <semiosis> ubuntu/password also denied
[21:21] <semiosis> is there a more recommended way of running a VM on my workstation than this?
[21:22] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: ^^
[21:22] <semiosis> instructions seem straightforward enough, but then the cloudimage denies me
[21:22] <semiosis> thanks RoAkSoAx
[21:22] <RoAkSoAx> semiosis: he would be able to help you ;)
[21:23] <semiosis> smoser is a legend :)
[21:24] <RoAkSoAx> hehe
[21:47] <Daviey> Does someone want to rebase, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/2011.3-0ubuntu6.1 for SRU?
[21:48] <Daviey> (it was superseeded by a security upload)
[21:49] <Daviey> Hmm, although, it might need merging with https://launchpad.net/~zulcss/+archive/openstack-updates/+sourcepub/2080480/+listing-archive-extra
[21:49] <Daviey> probably best wait for zul.
[21:57] <Ursinha> Daviey: hellooooooooooo
[21:57] <Ursinha> when should I expect you to be free? It's pretty late for you, isn't it?
[21:57] <Daviey> hey Ursinha
[21:58] <koolhead17> phewwww
[21:58] <koolhead17> Ursinha: hellos
[21:59] <Daviey> Yeah, what time are you likely going to be online tomorrow?  UTC?
[22:00] <Ursinha> hello koolhead17
[22:00] <Ursinha> Daviey: let me do the maths
[22:00] <Ursinha> Daviey: 15utc
[22:03] <Daviey> Ursinha: ok, thanks
[23:25] <kees> SpamapS: okay, I've got a funny one for you. in oneiric, my desktop was hitting the "waiting for networks" thing. I had two left over "auto" entries that weren't present on the system any more (from a USB dongle). eth5 and eth5.3 (vlan on eth5). for some reason, /var/run/ifup.eth5 exists, but not ifup.eth5.3 :P
[23:37] <lenios> kees, oh, i have the "waiting for network", is it because of the auto on unused interfaces?
[23:38] <lenios> i'll need to test tomorrow
[23:39] <lenios> i had no problem with 11.04 though
[23:51] <kees> lenios_: right, it means that something from /etc/network/interfaces that is marked "auto" has not come up yet.
[23:53] <twb> Or "allow-auto", for which auto is only shorthand