[17:45] <bkerensa> nathwill: Good Morning
[17:45] <nathwill> morning bkerensa
[17:45] <nathwill> que pasta
[17:47] <bkerensa> nathwill: Just waking up with no folgers in my cup :P
[17:47] <nathwill> well that's unfortunate
[17:47] <shannonlucas> No Folger's? That sounds like a good thing.
[17:48] <bkerensa> nathwill: I don't drink coffee
[17:48] <nathwill> pffft
[17:48] <nathwill> your loss
[17:49] <bkerensa> nathwill: Like once in a great moon I will have some Peets.... But honestly I alreadly am a late owl (2am avg bedtime) and peets coffee oh boy that stuff will have me up till 6-7am
[17:49] <bkerensa> :D
[17:49] <bkerensa> I like Tea.... Green Tea and Chai for the win
[17:50] <bkerensa> nathwill: Did you ever get to check out Tomahawk?
[17:52] <slangasek> bkerensa: any news from the Puppeteers?
[17:53] <nathwill> bkerensa, funny you should mention... i downloaded the tomahawk packages last night, just haven't played w/ it yet
[17:53] <bkerensa> slangasek: Jose indicates he has one PuppetLabs employee commiting at least tentatively and that he is "hammering" to get more people commiting
[17:53] <bkerensa> I think he just needs to find someone who wants to spend the weekend at the office :P
[17:53] <slangasek> bkerensa: so one employee is not enough to get them to commit?
[17:53] <nathwill> haha
[17:53] <nathwill> fair enough i think
[17:54] <bkerensa> slangasek: Well I guess the one person was not "guaranteed" so he wants to get a for sure solid commit.
[17:54] <slangasek> ok
[17:55] <bkerensa> slangasek: I will continue to ping him until I get results.... I told him the importance of getting a "go ahead" so we can start announcing it
[17:55] <bkerensa> nathwill: Yeah It is a interesting app.... I actually helped them sort out a few Ubuntu specific bugs
[17:56] <nathwill> nice :)
[17:56] <slangasek> bkerensa: right, thanks :)
[17:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: Between my library and the 5 people I'm connected to I can listen to roughly 500k songs :D
[17:56] <slangasek> so since no one else volunteered to draft the announcement email, I guess that means I'm on the hook for it
[17:56] <bkerensa> slangasek: Oh yes thats all you :D
[17:56] <slangasek> a bit awkward since I'm at my dad's house for the holidays at the moment, but will try to get something written up today
[17:57] <bkerensa> slangasek: On a side note I invited nathwill and he happens to use Debian :D
[17:57] <slangasek> hurray :)
[17:57] <nathwill> speaking of debian... anybody else see the ars article about package dependencies today?
[17:58] <bkerensa> hmm nope... *pops open feed reader*
[17:59] <bkerensa> nathwill: What is the headline of the article I can't find it
[17:59] <nathwill> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/11/over-time-linux-package-dependencies-show-predatorprey-relationship.ars
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[18:01] <bkerensa> nathwill: My fiancee just got promoted to management... Kind of hoping they don't expect her to move anytime in the future
[18:01] <nathwill> uh ohs
[18:01] <nathwill> hopefully not
[18:02] <bkerensa> Specifically I hope they never ask us to move to any of the small Oregon towns they have branches in
[18:02] <bkerensa> nathwill: Yeah I told her last night that it would be impossible for me to find a freelance work outside of the metro area and that if they ask her to move she should decline politely :P
[18:03] <nathwill> unless she's making enough bank for you not to have to work... ;)
[18:03] <nathwill> ain't nothing wrong w/ being a housewife
[18:04] <bkerensa> nathwill: Not a chance :) we don't even know what the promotion raise is going to look like yet.... I imagine her CEO will come down in the next week to discuss it
[18:04] <nathwill> ho ho. exciting times :)
[18:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: How is the new gig there at YHOO going?
[18:05] <nathwill> good
[18:06] <nathwill> doing some fun devel stuff
[18:06] <nathwill> speaking of which
[18:06] <nathwill> how are you with yui?
[18:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: YUI Compressor?
[18:06] <bkerensa> :D
[18:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: or the whole library?
[18:07] <nathwill> yui charts/tabview specifically
[18:07] <nathwill> http://jsfiddle.net/V86KK/
[18:07] <Oregonian> Title: Edit this Fiddle - jsFiddle - Online Editor for the Web (JavaScript, MooTools, jQuery, Prototype, YUI, Glow and Dojo, HTML, CSS) (at jsfiddle.net)
[18:07] <nathwill> stupid thing works fine for the first chart, then utterly fails for subsequent charts
[18:08] <nathwill> i think the css is getting reset but i can't figure out how to force the subsequent tab to expand
[18:08] <bkerensa> nathwill: I have never worked with the charts/tabview
[18:08] <nathwill> it's apparently a PITA
[18:08] <nathwill> but oh well
[18:09] <nathwill> i'll make it work
[18:09] <bkerensa> nathwill: Yeah I don't much care for CSS it is very troublesome.... I spent almost 8 hours a week ago trying to fix some floating issues for a button hook I was adding to my blog
[18:09] <nathwill> floating is always a pita, lol
[18:10] <bkerensa> nathwill: I use a few yahoo products like YUI Compressor and Smush
[18:10] <nathwill> yui3 css grids is pretty pimp
[18:11] <nathwill> i'm not sure what i think about javascript in general, but...
[18:11] <nathwill> whatevs
[18:12] <bkerensa> nathwill: I think javascript is old and so are so many scripting langs and honestly I hope to start learning HTML5 soon
[18:12] <bkerensa> especially with the news of Flash being abandoned
[18:14] <nathwill> well
[18:14] <nathwill> abandoned for mobile
[18:14] <nathwill> which is essentially abandoned
[18:15] <nathwill> though i think it's going to limp around for a while first
[18:19] <bkerensa> nathwill: Yeah but I wish it would just exit gracefully.... HTML5 is much better
[18:20] <bkerensa> nathwill: what is your Ubuntu Forums username?
[18:22] <nathwill> um
[18:22] <nathwill> wow, surprisingly enough, it's nathwill
[18:23] <nathwill> go figure
[18:24] <bkerensa> :D
[18:30] <bkerensa> nathwill: I put in a request with forum people to have you added as a mod there too :D
[18:30] <bkerensa> I dont expect you will ever likely have to do anything there since forum loco's seem dead in general
[18:31] <nathwill> aight
[18:31] <nathwill> i'll schedule a reminder to check it periodically
[18:32] <bkerensa> slangasek: Jono says he will plug the local jam when you/we announce it.
[18:32] <slangasek> ok :)
[20:40] <c_smith> hello
[20:49] <nathwill> hi c_smith
[20:50] <c_smith> wassup?
[20:51] <nathwill> gave up on yui
[20:51] <c_smith> yui?
[20:51] <c_smith> what's that?
[20:51] <nathwill> well... on using tabview in yui... using yui is a requirement
[20:51] <nathwill> http://yuilibrary.com/
[20:51] <Oregonian> Title: YUI Library (at yuilibrary.com)