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FernandoMiguelUnity noob question10:28
FernandoMiguelhow do I MOVE an app window to another desktop ?10:29
FernandoMiguelI can't right click anywhere10:29
FernandoMigueland ctrl+alt+side keys just jumps back10:29
ior3kFernandoMiguel: I think you can configure keys to do that at CCSM -> Desktop Wall -> Bindings -> Move with window within wall10:37
ior3kthat only allows you to move windows relative to your current position10:37
ior3kthe way I usually do it is by using the workspace switcher on the launcher10:38
FernandoMiguel don't have that pluging even enable10:38
ior3kclick that, and drag the window to the desktop you want10:38
FernandoMiguelior3k: try maxing up an app10:38
ior3kreally? I think unity enables that10:38
FernandoMigueland have something to drag10:38
FernandoMiguelwell, if unmaximized it , I can10:39
FernandoMiguelbut don't see how to do it with maximized10:39
ior3kFernandoMiguel: you can drag an app even if it's maximized10:39
FernandoMiguelfileing a bug10:39
ior3kclick the workspace switcher, then click drag the window10:39
FernandoMiguelsure, but im not talking about dragging10:39
FernandoMiguelI'm talking about sending to another desktop10:39
ior3kright, that's what I meant10:40
ior3kwhen you click the workspace switcher, it shows all desktops, right?10:40
FernandoMiguelyou do know I hate using mouse, right?10:40
ior3kok, I do it infrequently enough that it doesn't bother me, but I think there's a more involved solution10:41
ior3k(that I know of)10:41
FernandoMiguelbug I will10:41
ior3kwhich is to basically disable the desktop wall and enable the cube10:41
FernandoMiguelyah I have ecube10:41
ior3kah, nice10:41
ior3kthen you only need the "Rotate Cube" plugin10:42
FernandoMigueldude I'm not making my self clear :(10:42
FernandoMiguellets try again10:42
FernandoMiguelopen firefox, maximize it10:42
FernandoMiguelNOW send it to the desktop on the right10:42
FernandoMiguelI used to ctrl+alt+right key10:43
FernandoMiguelor mouse right click the app bar and Send to Desktop Right10:43
ior3kthe binding I see is <Shift><Control><Alt><Right>10:43
ior3kdoes that work for you?10:44
FernandoMiguelit jumps back to the original one10:44
FernandoMiguelafter I let go10:44
ior3kFernandoMiguel: can you check "Rotate Cube" -> Bindings ?10:44
FernandoMigueltry it10:44
FernandoMiguelI'm not saying its not there. I'm saying its not working10:45
FernandoMiguelhence, me file bug, tarzan10:45
FernandoMiguelunity or compiz?10:45
ior3kwell, to be honest it worked for me10:46
ior3kbut I used the grid binding to maximize the window10:46
ior3kso let me try the "official" way :)10:46
ior3kyup, worked10:47
ior3kso I guess that's a "rotate cube" bug10:47
FernandoMiguelthat means it's not gonna be fixed10:48
FernandoMiguelI won't file bugs on compiz10:48
FernandoMiguelthey just expire10:48
FernandoMiguelwhere's amarath when I need him?10:49
FernandoMiguelthanks for pitching in ior3k10:49
ior3kFernandoMiguel: np, sorry for having misread your problem11:01
FernandoMiguelno , it's me, not you . I can never make my self clear... and not always running ideal conditions11:02
gogo_hi...I read embedded video support has been added to USC...How can i watch video, I cant find an application with video12:37
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BluesKajHiyas all14:01
coz_BluesKaj,  hey guy :)14:03
BluesKajhi coz_14:03
BluesKajcoz_, testing 12.04 ?14:04
coz_BluesKaj,   no.. I decided to move back to Natty.. but I did test it briefly with kde14:06
coz_BluesKaj,  I have been disapointed with gnome's direction,, so kde is probably going to be my default from now on,, which of course means I have to relearn it :)14:07
coz_be back later14:08
BluesKajcoz_, yeah, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, and so far so good14:09
lgp171188Hi, when I go to Software sources and try to enable 'Source code' repository, there is a prompt for root password and not the sudo password. Giving sudo password doesn't work. This could be a bug. Against which package to report this?16:19
lgp171188This is on a fresh install of Precise16:19
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lgp171188Hi, I used ubuntu-bug tool to report a defect in Precise. After it sent the bug report to developers, it tried to open the browser, but failed with this error - "/usr/bin/xdg-open: 364: /usr/bin/xdg-open: gnome-open: not found". How to report my original bug and this bug?16:47
saimanojIs the new patch of the Linux Kernel regarding ASPM problem is being added to precise?17:05
saimanojhello everyone?17:06
BluesKajASPM problem?17:12
saimanojpower management is very poor till the latest patch in Linux Kernel17:16
saimanojplease read this.17:17
saimanojThere are also bugs reported about power draining of laptops running on ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10.17:17
Ian_Corneit is known17:18
saimanojThe root of the problem is identified and solved by the provided patch to Linux Kernel17:18
saimanojIs it coming with precise17:18
saimanojAs the solution is released, is the patch added to the precise pangolin LTS?17:19
saimanojCan some one please clarify me?17:20
Piciokay then.17:21
Ian_Cornequite pushy :p17:26
bjsniderthat patch is coming17:44
bjsniderwhat kernel are you all using?17:44
BluesKajbjsnider, uname -a here shows 3.1.0-2-generic18:18
BluesKajbut iI haven't rebooted since the last update which seems to have installed anew kernel 3.2 something18:19
BluesKajok , now that I'vce rebooted the new kernel is in use: 3.2.0-1-generic18:40
bjsnideri think the patch is in that kernel18:40
BluesKajprobly makes no diff here, not on a laptop18:41
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Ian_CorneErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-network_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtgui4_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb19:13
Ian_CorneE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)19:13
Ian_Corne './usr/share/doc/libqt4-network/LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt' is different from the same file on the system19:26
Ian_Cornewhat does this even mean :p19:26
genii-aroundIan_Corne: you can still install it by: sudo dpkg -i --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/*  /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb       and so on for the qt files it's saying that for19:52
Ian_Cornedpkg: error: unknown option --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/*19:54
Ian_Corneor :p19:54
Ian_Corneit's --path-exclude :)19:55
Ian_Corneit's not that easy19:58
Ian_Cornejust removed stuff in that folder :p20:00
Ian_Corneworking now20:00
FernandoMiguelstupid question: assuming I have enough RAM can I paravirt two OSs and give 4GBs RAM to each to run side by side on the hiperviser?21:42
penguin42even if you don't have enough22:00
FernandoMiguelpenguin42: I'm going crazy... kernel 3.1 uses too much battery. 3.2 not only uses lot of bat, also heats too much22:02
FernandoMiguelI'm moments from installing windows again..... and either VB Ubuntu or para Virt it22:02
penguin42shrug - well you can either debug it or that's what you'll have to do22:02
FernandoMiguelit's stupid sandybridge22:03
FernandoMiguelit's tooo new22:03
penguin42you could build and bisect to see where the heating comes in, if something older than 3.1 doesn't eat your battery you could also bisect22:04
penguin42sorry, no magic bullet22:05
bjsniderthis is just a bad time, but eventualy snb should be great on pp22:06
penguin42FernandoMiguel: The other trick is to find the guys doing the dev on it and follow their patches22:06
FernandoMiguelpenguin42: bjsnider where would that be?22:07
penguin42FernandoMiguel: I'd have a dig about lkml to see who is contributing stuff22:09
FernandoMiguelil wait22:09
FernandoMiguelcause if this keeps up, I'll just forget linux for another cycle22:09
bjsniderthis is a realy bad time in pp i think22:13
FernandoMiguelbjsnider: other than the DE, this power usage is my only serious problem22:13
bjsnideri thought it was fixed in 3.222:14
robin0800bjsnider: bound to be I think a week away from alpha122:14
bjsniderdid you ax the kernel team about the power patch?22:14
FernandoMiguelbjsnider: penguin42: powertop http://paste.ubuntu.com/747590/22:15
FernandoMiguel20% of the CPU is in TurboBoost22:16
FernandoMiguelthe rest is at 800MHz22:16
FernandoMiguelis there a way I can limit the CPU max speed?22:16
FernandoMiguelwhat's PowerTop _tunables_ for ?22:17
FernandoMigueloh great... just killed USB... and god know what else22:20
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Be careful - not everything powertop advises actually leaves stuff working!23:26
penguin42FernandoMiguel: You sohuld be able to set the power governor so that on battery it doesn't use turbomode23:29
Ian_CorneFernandoMiguel: if you limit your cpu to 800mhz23:30
Ian_Corneyou hinder it's race to idle too23:30
Ian_Cornebe mindful23:30
penguin42I thought there were blunter ways of doing that23:30
Ian_Corne/usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/UUID/UUID.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck23:33
Ian_Corneok? :p23:34
Ian_Cornethat's on updating23:34
Ian_Corneseems like it didn't remove a package it needed23:35
Ian_Corneto remove23:35
penguin42There used to be a CPU thing for GNOME where you could select something like 'performance' 'battery life' 'normal' - can't remember what exactly it tweeked23:35
Ian_Corneyou could also set the scaling23:35
penguin42ah found it23:38
penguin42FernandoMiguel: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq  then pick one of those and echo it into /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor23:39
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Also need to do it for all your cpus not just cpu023:39
FernandoMiguelpenguin42: that was gnome-applets23:41
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Yeh23:41
FernandoMiguelit's usually bad for the user to be controlling the scheduler23:41
FernandoMiguelwe do bad work23:42
Ian_CorneI used to set my eee to max always23:42
penguin42FernandoMiguel: It's only tweeking the big knob on the scheduler to tell it what you want it to do23:42
FernandoMiguelIan_Corne: you are dumb23:42
FernandoMiguelondemand is better23:43
Ian_CorneIt improved battery life23:43
FernandoMiguelif there are no kernel bugs, ofc23:43
Ian_Corneit did.23:43
FernandoMiguelhow can it ?23:43
Ian_Cornerace to idle!23:43
Ian_Corneondemand is not instant scaling, so you're doing stuff at 800mhz sometiles23:44
Ian_Cornei found that if I kept it at 1.6ghz, the system ran smoother and I had 20 mintes extra battery life (on 5h)23:44
FernandoMiguelill try that on mine23:46
FernandoMiguelhave nothing to lose23:46
FernandoMiguelI think it raging  from 800 to Turboboos (at 2.9GHz)23:46
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Still, going to turbo is not a bad thing - I mean I wouldn't advise it on battery but in general that's what it's there for is to get speed23:47
FernandoMiguelI don't want speed23:47
FernandoMiguel2x800 is more than enough23:47
* penguin42 offers to swap FernandoMiguel's laptop for his Atom23:48
FernandoMiguelwhy do you think I got a 2nd gen i5 ?23:48
Ian_CorneFernandoMiguel: there's probably a big difference between my eee and your i5, mine doesn't have superturbohypermegaboost :p23:49
FernandoMiguelmy 1 week traded up sony vaio i3 neither23:49
Ian_Cornebleh vaio23:50
FernandoMigueland it felt faster than this i523:50
Ian_CorneI had an i5 (1e gen)23:50
penguin42Ian_Corne: DOes it have UltraUberZippo mode?23:50
FernandoMiguelI added another 4GBs to this dell and now its better23:50
Ian_Cornestupid prop. touchpad23:50
Ian_Cornepenguin42: yes!23:50
FernandoMiguelI think the dual channel really makes a diff23:50
Ian_CorneI've got a lenovo thinkpad from work23:50
Ian_Corneno idea if it's first or second gen tho23:51
Ian_Corneit feels very smooth23:51
FernandoMigueldoes it have usb3?23:51
FernandoMigueleasy to tell :)23:51
Ian_Corneit's not near23:53

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