| === aj00200 is now known as Aj00300 | ||
| FernandoMiguel | morning | 09:19 |
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| FernandoMiguel | Unity noob question | 10:28 |
| FernandoMiguel | how do I MOVE an app window to another desktop ? | 10:29 |
| FernandoMiguel | I can't right click anywhere | 10:29 |
| FernandoMiguel | and ctrl+alt+side keys just jumps back | 10:29 |
| ior3k | FernandoMiguel: I think you can configure keys to do that at CCSM -> Desktop Wall -> Bindings -> Move with window within wall | 10:37 |
| ior3k | however | 10:37 |
| ior3k | that only allows you to move windows relative to your current position | 10:37 |
| FernandoMiguel | looking | 10:38 |
| ior3k | the way I usually do it is by using the workspace switcher on the launcher | 10:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | don't have that pluging even enable | 10:38 |
| ior3k | click that, and drag the window to the desktop you want | 10:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | ior3k: try maxing up an app | 10:38 |
| ior3k | really? I think unity enables that | 10:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | and have something to drag | 10:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | well, if unmaximized it , I can | 10:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | but don't see how to do it with maximized | 10:39 |
| ior3k | FernandoMiguel: you can drag an app even if it's maximized | 10:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | fileing a bug | 10:39 |
| ior3k | click the workspace switcher, then click drag the window | 10:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | sure, but im not talking about dragging | 10:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | I'm talking about sending to another desktop | 10:39 |
| ior3k | right, that's what I meant | 10:40 |
| ior3k | when you click the workspace switcher, it shows all desktops, right? | 10:40 |
| FernandoMiguel | you do know I hate using mouse, right? | 10:40 |
| ior3k | hehe | 10:40 |
| ior3k | ok, I do it infrequently enough that it doesn't bother me, but I think there's a more involved solution | 10:41 |
| ior3k | (that I know of) | 10:41 |
| FernandoMiguel | bug I will | 10:41 |
| ior3k | which is to basically disable the desktop wall and enable the cube | 10:41 |
| FernandoMiguel | yah I have ecube | 10:41 |
| ior3k | ah, nice | 10:41 |
| ior3k | then you only need the "Rotate Cube" plugin | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | doh | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | dude I'm not making my self clear :( | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | lets try again | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | open firefox, maximize it | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | NOW send it to the desktop on the right | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | HOW? | 10:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | I used to ctrl+alt+right key | 10:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | or mouse right click the app bar and Send to Desktop Right | 10:43 |
| ior3k | the binding I see is <Shift><Control><Alt><Right> | 10:43 |
| ior3k | does that work for you? | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | no | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | it jumps back to the original one | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | after I let go | 10:44 |
| ior3k | FernandoMiguel: can you check "Rotate Cube" -> Bindings ? | 10:44 |
| ior3k | ah | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | try it | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | I'm not saying its not there. I'm saying its not working | 10:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | hence, me file bug, tarzan | 10:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | unity or compiz? | 10:45 |
| ior3k | well, to be honest it worked for me | 10:46 |
| ior3k | but I used the grid binding to maximize the window | 10:46 |
| ior3k | so let me try the "official" way :) | 10:46 |
| ior3k | yup, worked | 10:47 |
| ior3k | so I guess that's a "rotate cube" bug | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | buh | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | that means it's not gonna be fixed | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | I won't file bugs on compiz | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | they just expire | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | where's amarath when I need him? | 10:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | thanks for pitching in ior3k | 10:49 |
| ior3k | FernandoMiguel: np, sorry for having misread your problem | 11:01 |
| FernandoMiguel | no , it's me, not you . I can never make my self clear... and not always running ideal conditions | 11:02 |
| gogo_ | hi...I read embedded video support has been added to USC...How can i watch video, I cant find an application with video | 12:37 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:01 |
| coz_ | BluesKaj, hey guy :) | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | hi coz_ | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | coz_, testing 12.04 ? | 14:04 |
| coz_ | BluesKaj, no.. I decided to move back to Natty.. but I did test it briefly with kde | 14:06 |
| coz_ | BluesKaj, I have been disapointed with gnome's direction,, so kde is probably going to be my default from now on,, which of course means I have to relearn it :) | 14:07 |
| coz_ | be back later | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | coz_, yeah, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, and so far so good | 14:09 |
| lgp171188 | Hi, when I go to Software sources and try to enable 'Source code' repository, there is a prompt for root password and not the sudo password. Giving sudo password doesn't work. This could be a bug. Against which package to report this? | 16:19 |
| lgp171188 | This is on a fresh install of Precise | 16:19 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| lgp171188 | Hi, I used ubuntu-bug tool to report a defect in Precise. After it sent the bug report to developers, it tried to open the browser, but failed with this error - "/usr/bin/xdg-open: 364: /usr/bin/xdg-open: gnome-open: not found". How to report my original bug and this bug? | 16:47 |
| saimanoj | Is the new patch of the Linux Kernel regarding ASPM problem is being added to precise? | 17:05 |
| saimanoj | hello everyone? | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | ASPM problem? | 17:12 |
| saimanoj | yeah | 17:15 |
| saimanoj | power management is very poor till the latest patch in Linux Kernel | 17:16 |
| saimanoj | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_aspm_solution&num=1 | 17:16 |
| saimanoj | please read this. | 17:17 |
| saimanoj | There are also bugs reported about power draining of laptops running on ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10. | 17:17 |
| Ian_Corne | it is known | 17:18 |
| saimanoj | The root of the problem is identified and solved by the provided patch to Linux Kernel | 17:18 |
| saimanoj | Is it coming with precise | 17:18 |
| Ian_Corne | nice | 17:18 |
| saimanoj | As the solution is released, is the patch added to the precise pangolin LTS? | 17:19 |
| saimanoj | Can some one please clarify me? | 17:20 |
| Pici | okay then. | 17:21 |
| Ian_Corne | quite pushy :p | 17:26 |
| bjsnider | that patch is coming | 17:44 |
| bjsnider | what kernel are you all using? | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider, uname -a here shows 3.1.0-2-generic | 18:18 |
| BluesKaj | but iI haven't rebooted since the last update which seems to have installed anew kernel 3.2 something | 18:19 |
| BluesKaj | ok , now that I'vce rebooted the new kernel is in use: 3.2.0-1-generic | 18:40 |
| bjsnider | i think the patch is in that kernel | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | probly makes no diff here, not on a laptop | 18:41 |
| === wake is now known as Senix | ||
| Ian_Corne | Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-network_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtgui4_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb | 19:13 |
| Ian_Corne | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 19:13 |
| Ian_Corne | warning | 19:13 |
| Ian_Corne | './usr/share/doc/libqt4-network/LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt' is different from the same file on the system | 19:26 |
| Ian_Corne | what does this even mean :p | 19:26 |
| genii-around | Ian_Corne: you can still install it by: sudo dpkg -i --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/* /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb and so on for the qt files it's saying that for | 19:52 |
| Ian_Corne | thanks | 19:53 |
| Ian_Corne | dpkg: error: unknown option --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/* | 19:54 |
| Ian_Corne | or :p | 19:54 |
| Ian_Corne | it's --path-exclude :) | 19:55 |
| Ian_Corne | it's not that easy | 19:58 |
| Ian_Corne | just removed stuff in that folder :p | 20:00 |
| Ian_Corne | working now | 20:00 |
| FernandoMiguel | stupid question: assuming I have enough RAM can I paravirt two OSs and give 4GBs RAM to each to run side by side on the hiperviser? | 21:42 |
| penguin42 | yes | 22:00 |
| penguin42 | even if you don't have enough | 22:00 |
| FernandoMiguel | penguin42: I'm going crazy... kernel 3.1 uses too much battery. 3.2 not only uses lot of bat, also heats too much | 22:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | I'm moments from installing windows again..... and either VB Ubuntu or para Virt it | 22:02 |
| penguin42 | shrug - well you can either debug it or that's what you'll have to do | 22:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's stupid sandybridge | 22:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's tooo new | 22:03 |
| penguin42 | you could build and bisect to see where the heating comes in, if something older than 3.1 doesn't eat your battery you could also bisect | 22:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | humm | 22:04 |
| penguin42 | sorry, no magic bullet | 22:05 |
| bjsnider | this is just a bad time, but eventualy snb should be great on pp | 22:06 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: The other trick is to find the guys doing the dev on it and follow their patches | 22:06 |
| FernandoMiguel | penguin42: bjsnider where would that be? | 22:07 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: I'd have a dig about lkml to see who is contributing stuff | 22:09 |
| FernandoMiguel | il wait | 22:09 |
| FernandoMiguel | cause if this keeps up, I'll just forget linux for another cycle | 22:09 |
| bjsnider | this is a realy bad time in pp i think | 22:13 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: other than the DE, this power usage is my only serious problem | 22:13 |
| bjsnider | i thought it was fixed in 3.2 | 22:14 |
| robin0800 | bjsnider: bound to be I think a week away from alpha1 | 22:14 |
| bjsnider | did you ax the kernel team about the power patch? | 22:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: penguin42: powertop http://paste.ubuntu.com/747590/ | 22:15 |
| FernandoMiguel | 20% of the CPU is in TurboBoost | 22:16 |
| FernandoMiguel | the rest is at 800MHz | 22:16 |
| FernandoMiguel | is there a way I can limit the CPU max speed? | 22:16 |
| FernandoMiguel | what's PowerTop _tunables_ for ? | 22:17 |
| FernandoMiguel | oh great... just killed USB... and god know what else | 22:20 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: Be careful - not everything powertop advises actually leaves stuff working! | 23:26 |
| FernandoMiguel | yeah | 23:27 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: You sohuld be able to set the power governor so that on battery it doesn't use turbomode | 23:29 |
| Ian_Corne | FernandoMiguel: if you limit your cpu to 800mhz | 23:30 |
| Ian_Corne | you hinder it's race to idle too | 23:30 |
| Ian_Corne | be mindful | 23:30 |
| penguin42 | I thought there were blunter ways of doing that | 23:30 |
| Ian_Corne | /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/UUID/UUID.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck | 23:33 |
| Ian_Corne | ok? :p | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | that's on updating | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | seems like it didn't remove a package it needed | 23:35 |
| Ian_Corne | to remove | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | There used to be a CPU thing for GNOME where you could select something like 'performance' 'battery life' 'normal' - can't remember what exactly it tweeked | 23:35 |
| Ian_Corne | you could also set the scaling | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | ah found it | 23:38 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq then pick one of those and echo it into /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor | 23:39 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: Also need to do it for all your cpus not just cpu0 | 23:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | penguin42: that was gnome-applets | 23:41 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: Yeh | 23:41 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's usually bad for the user to be controlling the scheduler | 23:41 |
| FernandoMiguel | we do bad work | 23:42 |
| Ian_Corne | I used to set my eee to max always | 23:42 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: It's only tweeking the big knob on the scheduler to tell it what you want it to do | 23:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | Ian_Corne: you are dumb | 23:42 |
| Ian_Corne | why? | 23:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | ondemand is better | 23:43 |
| Ian_Corne | It improved battery life | 23:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | if there are no kernel bugs, ofc | 23:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | LOLOL | 23:43 |
| Ian_Corne | it did. | 23:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | how can it ? | 23:43 |
| Ian_Corne | race to idle! | 23:43 |
| Ian_Corne | ondemand is not instant scaling, so you're doing stuff at 800mhz sometiles | 23:44 |
| Ian_Corne | i found that if I kept it at 1.6ghz, the system ran smoother and I had 20 mintes extra battery life (on 5h) | 23:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | ok | 23:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | ill try that on mine | 23:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | have nothing to lose | 23:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | I think it raging from 800 to Turboboos (at 2.9GHz) | 23:46 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: Still, going to turbo is not a bad thing - I mean I wouldn't advise it on battery but in general that's what it's there for is to get speed | 23:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | I don't want speed | 23:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | 2x800 is more than enough | 23:47 |
| * penguin42 offers to swap FernandoMiguel's laptop for his Atom | 23:48 | |
| FernandoMiguel | LOLOLOL | 23:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | why do you think I got a 2nd gen i5 ? | 23:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | :D | 23:48 |
| Ian_Corne | FernandoMiguel: there's probably a big difference between my eee and your i5, mine doesn't have superturbohypermegaboost :p | 23:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | hehe | 23:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | my 1 week traded up sony vaio i3 neither | 23:49 |
| Ian_Corne | bleh vaio | 23:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | and it felt faster than this i5 | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | I had an i5 (1e gen) | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: DOes it have UltraUberZippo mode? | 23:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | I added another 4GBs to this dell and now its better | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | stupid prop. touchpad | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | penguin42: yes! | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | :p | 23:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | I think the dual channel really makes a diff | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | I've got a lenovo thinkpad from work | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | i5 | 23:50 |
| Ian_Corne | no idea if it's first or second gen tho | 23:51 |
| Ian_Corne | it feels very smooth | 23:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | does it have usb3? | 23:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | easy to tell :) | 23:51 |
| Ian_Corne | dunno | 23:53 |
| Ian_Corne | it's not near | 23:53 |
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