=== aj00200 is now known as Aj00300 [09:19] morning [10:28] Unity noob question [10:29] how do I MOVE an app window to another desktop ? [10:29] I can't right click anywhere [10:29] and ctrl+alt+side keys just jumps back [10:37] FernandoMiguel: I think you can configure keys to do that at CCSM -> Desktop Wall -> Bindings -> Move with window within wall [10:37] however [10:37] that only allows you to move windows relative to your current position [10:38] looking [10:38] the way I usually do it is by using the workspace switcher on the launcher [10:38] don't have that pluging even enable [10:38] click that, and drag the window to the desktop you want [10:38] ior3k: try maxing up an app [10:38] really? I think unity enables that [10:38] and have something to drag [10:39] well, if unmaximized it , I can [10:39] but don't see how to do it with maximized [10:39] FernandoMiguel: you can drag an app even if it's maximized [10:39] fileing a bug [10:39] click the workspace switcher, then click drag the window [10:39] sure, but im not talking about dragging [10:39] I'm talking about sending to another desktop [10:40] right, that's what I meant [10:40] when you click the workspace switcher, it shows all desktops, right? [10:40] you do know I hate using mouse, right? [10:40] hehe [10:41] ok, I do it infrequently enough that it doesn't bother me, but I think there's a more involved solution [10:41] (that I know of) [10:41] bug I will [10:41] which is to basically disable the desktop wall and enable the cube [10:41] yah I have ecube [10:41] ah, nice [10:42] then you only need the "Rotate Cube" plugin [10:42] doh [10:42] dude I'm not making my self clear :( [10:42] lets try again [10:42] open firefox, maximize it [10:42] NOW send it to the desktop on the right [10:42] HOW? [10:43] I used to ctrl+alt+right key [10:43] or mouse right click the app bar and Send to Desktop Right [10:43] the binding I see is [10:44] does that work for you? [10:44] no [10:44] it jumps back to the original one [10:44] after I let go [10:44] FernandoMiguel: can you check "Rotate Cube" -> Bindings ? [10:44] ah [10:44] try it [10:45] I'm not saying its not there. I'm saying its not working [10:45] hence, me file bug, tarzan [10:45] unity or compiz? [10:46] well, to be honest it worked for me [10:46] but I used the grid binding to maximize the window [10:46] so let me try the "official" way :) [10:47] yup, worked [10:47] so I guess that's a "rotate cube" bug [10:48] buh [10:48] that means it's not gonna be fixed [10:48] I won't file bugs on compiz [10:48] they just expire [10:49] where's amarath when I need him? [10:49] thanks for pitching in ior3k [11:01] FernandoMiguel: np, sorry for having misread your problem [11:02] no , it's me, not you . I can never make my self clear... and not always running ideal conditions [12:37] hi...I read embedded video support has been added to USC...How can i watch video, I cant find an application with video === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [14:01] Hiyas all [14:03] BluesKaj, hey guy :) [14:03] hi coz_ [14:04] coz_, testing 12.04 ? [14:06] BluesKaj, no.. I decided to move back to Natty.. but I did test it briefly with kde [14:07] BluesKaj, I have been disapointed with gnome's direction,, so kde is probably going to be my default from now on,, which of course means I have to relearn it :) [14:08] be back later [14:09] coz_, yeah, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, and so far so good [16:19] Hi, when I go to Software sources and try to enable 'Source code' repository, there is a prompt for root password and not the sudo password. Giving sudo password doesn't work. This could be a bug. Against which package to report this? [16:19] This is on a fresh install of Precise === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:47] Hi, I used ubuntu-bug tool to report a defect in Precise. After it sent the bug report to developers, it tried to open the browser, but failed with this error - "/usr/bin/xdg-open: 364: /usr/bin/xdg-open: gnome-open: not found". How to report my original bug and this bug? [17:05] Is the new patch of the Linux Kernel regarding ASPM problem is being added to precise? [17:06] hello everyone? [17:12] ASPM problem? [17:15] yeah [17:16] power management is very poor till the latest patch in Linux Kernel [17:16] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_aspm_solution&num=1 [17:17] please read this. [17:17] There are also bugs reported about power draining of laptops running on ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10. [17:18] it is known [17:18] The root of the problem is identified and solved by the provided patch to Linux Kernel [17:18] Is it coming with precise [17:18] nice [17:19] As the solution is released, is the patch added to the precise pangolin LTS? [17:20] Can some one please clarify me? [17:21] okay then. [17:26] quite pushy :p [17:44] that patch is coming [17:44] what kernel are you all using? [18:18] bjsnider, uname -a here shows 3.1.0-2-generic [18:19] but iI haven't rebooted since the last update which seems to have installed anew kernel 3.2 something [18:40] ok , now that I'vce rebooted the new kernel is in use: 3.2.0-1-generic [18:40] i think the patch is in that kernel [18:41] probly makes no diff here, not on a laptop === wake is now known as Senix [19:13] Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-network_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtgui4_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb [19:13] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [19:13] warning [19:26] './usr/share/doc/libqt4-network/LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt' is different from the same file on the system [19:26] what does this even mean :p [19:52] Ian_Corne: you can still install it by: sudo dpkg -i --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/* /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-xmlpatterns_4%3a4.7.4-1ubuntu3_i386.deb and so on for the qt files it's saying that for [19:53] thanks [19:54] dpkg: error: unknown option --exclude-path=/usr/share/doc/* [19:54] or :p [19:55] it's --path-exclude :) [19:58] it's not that easy [20:00] just removed stuff in that folder :p [20:00] working now [21:42] stupid question: assuming I have enough RAM can I paravirt two OSs and give 4GBs RAM to each to run side by side on the hiperviser? [22:00] yes [22:00] even if you don't have enough [22:02] penguin42: I'm going crazy... kernel 3.1 uses too much battery. 3.2 not only uses lot of bat, also heats too much [22:02] I'm moments from installing windows again..... and either VB Ubuntu or para Virt it [22:02] shrug - well you can either debug it or that's what you'll have to do [22:03] it's stupid sandybridge [22:03] it's tooo new [22:04] you could build and bisect to see where the heating comes in, if something older than 3.1 doesn't eat your battery you could also bisect [22:04] humm [22:05] sorry, no magic bullet [22:06] this is just a bad time, but eventualy snb should be great on pp [22:06] FernandoMiguel: The other trick is to find the guys doing the dev on it and follow their patches [22:07] penguin42: bjsnider where would that be? [22:09] FernandoMiguel: I'd have a dig about lkml to see who is contributing stuff [22:09] il wait [22:09] cause if this keeps up, I'll just forget linux for another cycle [22:13] this is a realy bad time in pp i think [22:13] bjsnider: other than the DE, this power usage is my only serious problem [22:14] i thought it was fixed in 3.2 [22:14] bjsnider: bound to be I think a week away from alpha1 [22:14] did you ax the kernel team about the power patch? [22:15] bjsnider: penguin42: powertop http://paste.ubuntu.com/747590/ [22:16] 20% of the CPU is in TurboBoost [22:16] the rest is at 800MHz [22:16] is there a way I can limit the CPU max speed? [22:17] what's PowerTop _tunables_ for ? [22:20] oh great... just killed USB... and god know what else [23:26] FernandoMiguel: Be careful - not everything powertop advises actually leaves stuff working! [23:27] yeah [23:29] FernandoMiguel: You sohuld be able to set the power governor so that on battery it doesn't use turbomode [23:30] FernandoMiguel: if you limit your cpu to 800mhz [23:30] you hinder it's race to idle too [23:30] be mindful [23:30] I thought there were blunter ways of doing that [23:33] /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/UUID/UUID.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck [23:34] ok? :p [23:34] that's on updating [23:35] seems like it didn't remove a package it needed [23:35] to remove [23:35] There used to be a CPU thing for GNOME where you could select something like 'performance' 'battery life' 'normal' - can't remember what exactly it tweeked [23:35] you could also set the scaling [23:38] ah found it [23:39] FernandoMiguel: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq then pick one of those and echo it into /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor [23:39] FernandoMiguel: Also need to do it for all your cpus not just cpu0 [23:41] penguin42: that was gnome-applets [23:41] FernandoMiguel: Yeh [23:41] it's usually bad for the user to be controlling the scheduler [23:42] we do bad work [23:42] I used to set my eee to max always [23:42] FernandoMiguel: It's only tweeking the big knob on the scheduler to tell it what you want it to do [23:42] Ian_Corne: you are dumb [23:42] why? [23:43] ondemand is better [23:43] It improved battery life [23:43] if there are no kernel bugs, ofc [23:43] LOLOL [23:43] it did. [23:43] how can it ? [23:43] race to idle! [23:44] ondemand is not instant scaling, so you're doing stuff at 800mhz sometiles [23:44] i found that if I kept it at 1.6ghz, the system ran smoother and I had 20 mintes extra battery life (on 5h) [23:46] ok [23:46] ill try that on mine [23:46] have nothing to lose [23:46] I think it raging from 800 to Turboboos (at 2.9GHz) [23:47] FernandoMiguel: Still, going to turbo is not a bad thing - I mean I wouldn't advise it on battery but in general that's what it's there for is to get speed [23:47] I don't want speed [23:47] 2x800 is more than enough [23:48] * penguin42 offers to swap FernandoMiguel's laptop for his Atom [23:48] LOLOLOL [23:48] why do you think I got a 2nd gen i5 ? [23:48] :D [23:49] FernandoMiguel: there's probably a big difference between my eee and your i5, mine doesn't have superturbohypermegaboost :p [23:49] hehe [23:49] my 1 week traded up sony vaio i3 neither [23:50] bleh vaio [23:50] and it felt faster than this i5 [23:50] I had an i5 (1e gen) [23:50] Ian_Corne: DOes it have UltraUberZippo mode? [23:50] I added another 4GBs to this dell and now its better [23:50] stupid prop. touchpad [23:50] penguin42: yes! [23:50] :p [23:50] I think the dual channel really makes a diff [23:50] I've got a lenovo thinkpad from work [23:50] i5 [23:51] no idea if it's first or second gen tho [23:51] it feels very smooth [23:51] does it have usb3? [23:51] easy to tell :) [23:53] dunno [23:53] it's not near