=== EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine === johnoxton__ is now known as johnoxton [11:37] home.python-keyring.org, so I can't test the dependency change I've made to pkgme :\ [11:37] oh, no [11:37] there it goes [13:03] is there a way to get more info in the stack trace for APIErrors from piston_mini_client? [13:04] specifically, APIError.body would be handy to have [13:07] jml: not sure if that is helpful, but if PISTON_MINI_CLIENT_DEBUG is set it will contain the more info including the body iirc [13:07] mvo: thanks. [13:09] now, where is celery hiding these errors? [13:14] (found the log. interestingly it's logging two stack traces per error.) [13:19] two identical ones? or two different ones ;) ? [13:20] identical. [13:20] my most recent example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747009/ [13:21] confusing! [13:25] yes. [13:26] I'm going to pause to go to the shops to get food so I can eat immediately after our call in ~30mins [13:26] (One of these days I'm going to experiment with enough food around house to last for more than 1 day) [13:44] heh :) [14:23] james_w: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747065/ (re your assigned card) [14:32] * jml fights the urge to rewrite pkgme-service in Twisted [14:33] achuni: hey, what backend does djpkgme use for celery? [14:33] jml, thanks [14:33] james_w: would be good to have a quick chat about state of this after the team-wide call. [14:33] jml: atm, kombu [14:33] (that's only intended for dev though) [14:34] achuni: ok, thanks. [14:34] achuni: do you have any experience / guidance for deploying celery to production? [14:36] jml: if the dpkgme service is only tiny - it may save you time long-term (both maintenance and deployment). Maybe chat with achuni about it? [14:36] (sorry, re: Twisted) [14:37] noodles775: as in, it might save time to keep it where it is or to port to Twisted? [14:37] jml: to port it to Twisted [14:37] (if it's only small now - I haven't checked) [14:37] I'd probably end up rewriting chunks of piston (or switch to xmlrpc) [14:37] it's pretty small [14:39] k, just make sure you chat with achuni about it (as we could all learn from the reasons/changes), pls [14:39] jml: none [14:39] jml: it was django when we thought we'd be maintaining it, if you believe twisted would fit the task better, feel free [14:39] jml: noodles775 indeed, the Django parts are tiny [14:39] sweet. [14:40] well, tbh, I don't really know. I know that I know twisted better than I know django or celery, but that might not be a great reason. [14:40] jml: I think Django is more of a candidate if you plan on giving it a bit more of a website face [14:41] (as in admin or monitoring views) [14:41] you'd need twisted + something else in that case [14:46] achuni: yeah. I don't think we have a clear idea of what we want w/ web monitoring, tbh. [14:46] yup [14:47] grr [14:47] * achuni isn't getting along with mumble today [14:56] jml, do you want to discuss now? [14:56] james_w: sure. [14:58] jml, you can't hear me? [14:58] james_w: I just heard you type [14:58] but now mumble crashed [15:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/747100/ [15:03] james_w: ^ [15:09] How to display an image in Python (machine without any desktop environment). I'm now using pygame, but when displaying an image I have to make the program pause or else the image disappears... [15:11] hertenrode [15:11] sorry, wrong irc window for the last word === johnoxton__ is now known as johnoxton === johnoxton__ is now known as johnoxton [15:52] ruudt, if no one here can answer the question, I'd recommend filing it at http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask?tags=application-development [15:56] dpm: thanks, I'll go and look there anyway! [15:57] ruudt, cool :) [17:10] g'night all [17:10] * jml → kickboxing