| cjwatson | Laney: that sounds like about when we switched to Soyuz for publishing Ubuntu | 00:10 |
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| cjwatson | Laney: oh, you found that | 00:10 |
| cjwatson | Laney: "malone" is my fault, I think :) | 00:10 |
| Laney | heh | 00:10 |
| Laney | more fool me for not getting it | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | we did an awful lot of silly name brainstorming back then | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | IIRC Launchpad is Launchpad's third name | 00:12 |
| ajmitch | there are worse names, at least | 00:15 |
| * Laney discovers "Fir, 21 Jul 2006 04:48:23 +0200" | 00:15 | |
| Laney | people do weird things to their changesfiles | 00:15 |
| * ajmitch is innocent of that | 00:16 | |
| tumbleweed | Laney: we also skipped some because they were non english months, like Mei | 00:21 |
| Laney | the past is a place full of gremlins | 00:22 |
| Laney | it is funny how insanely sidetracked this has become from my original goal | 00:23 |
| Laney | "find the packages uploaded most often to ubuntu relative to debian" | 00:23 |
| tumbleweed | hah | 00:23 |
| tumbleweed | and I just wanted to get components in | 00:24 |
| ajmitch | Laney: too much yak shaving | 00:25 |
| Laney | we have a more generally useful resource now! | 00:25 |
| ajmitch | yay! | 00:25 |
| Laney | psycopg2.DataError: time zone displacement out of range: "Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:43:00 +2000" | 00:26 |
| ajmitch | it can shave all sortf of animals & paint the bikeshed any colour you want? | 00:26 |
| ajmitch | +2000 would be doing pretty well | 00:26 |
| Laney | naughty till | 00:27 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
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| Laney | up to 2009-07 | 10:08 |
| Laney | it is amusing how many dates are wrong | 10:08 |
| Laney | p.s. morning all | 10:09 |
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| Laney | argh, so close, 2011-09 | 11:23 |
| nigelb | Morning Laney. | 11:28 |
| nigelb | Laney: What are you doing with dates? :) | 11:28 |
| Laney | just the usual | 11:28 |
| Laney | (trying to take over the world) | 11:28 |
| nigelb | We have to get back to the lab. | 11:29 |
| nigelb | (Pinky and the Brain <3) | 11:29 |
| Laney | yay, imported! | 11:46 |
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| tumbleweed | Laney: \o/ | 12:29 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: I still see a fair number of entries with component=N/A | 12:44 |
| tumbleweed | where did they come from? | 12:44 |
| Laney | dunno | 12:55 |
| Laney | what dates? | 12:55 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/746991/ | 12:59 |
| Laney | pre 2006-03 is the mbox data | 12:59 |
| tumbleweed | ah | 13:02 |
| Laney | have you regenerated your data? | 13:07 |
| Laney | is there any progress on the ubuntuwire mirror? | 13:07 |
| tumbleweed | is there any reason to regenerate it? | 13:08 |
| tumbleweed | nope | 13:08 |
| tumbleweed | it took the best part of two weeks to generate that lot, so I have no plans of doing it again (although at least we know we can do it now, so it can probably be done in one go in a day or two) | 13:14 |
| Laney | oh, no, I meant the stats | 13:21 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, that'll be easier when we have a UDD mirror on syklone | 13:22 |
| tumbleweed | it requires a lot of launchpadlib digging, and access to UDD, which means I can't really do it at home | 13:26 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: been trying to run it at university, and now I'm finding "interesting" properties of our data :P | 14:27 |
| Laney | too awesome for words | 14:27 |
| tumbleweed | names like Foo <foo <foo@bar>> | 14:28 |
| tumbleweed | and e-mail addresses like that too | 14:28 |
| Laney | ruh roh | 14:29 |
| Laney | ah, it's not so many | 14:29 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 14:30 |
| Laney | this is stuff that is broken in changelogs | 14:30 |
| Laney | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.35/linux-backports-modules-2.6.35_2.6.35-6.1/changelog for example | 14:31 |
| tumbleweed | our developers suck :P | 14:31 |
| tumbleweed | ok, but if we know it's happening, we can fix it | 14:31 |
| tumbleweed | hrm, we don't seem to credit backports very well | 14:35 |
| Laney | that is dodgy in general | 14:35 |
| tumbleweed | changed_by = "Ubuntu Archive Backport", signed_by = N/A | 14:35 |
| Laney | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58477868/wesnoth-1.8_1.8.5-1~karmic1_source.changes | 14:59 |
| Laney | maybe it's a different backporting script? | 14:59 |
| Laney | most of them look right to me | 14:59 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: they're ok, but there's no attribution to the requestor | 15:04 |
| Laney | that is the way it works | 15:04 |
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| tumbleweed | Laney: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/upload_activity/ updated | 17:17 |
| Daviey | tumbleweed: why are you splitting the uploads between canonical and community? Isn't everyone just a ubuntu developer? | 17:40 |
| sladen | Daviey: perhaps it depends on the amount of duress ;-) | 17:41 |
| Daviey | meh, i don't like there being a division. | 17:42 |
| cjwatson | geez. somebody else upload stuff to precise. :-) | 17:56 |
| funkyHat | ⢁D | 17:57 |
| tumbleweed | Daviey: I wanted to see if MOTU really was dead | 18:02 |
| Daviey | tumbleweed: am i not a MOTU? | 18:02 |
| tumbleweed | Daviey: the evidence doesn't seem very clear, if you count uploads (as unuseful a mesaure as that is) | 18:02 |
| tumbleweed | Daviey: sure, and I have no easy way of handling that | 18:03 |
| tumbleweed | I was looking for trends. I didn't find anything I was expecting to | 18:03 |
| tumbleweed | I'd love to add graphs that show more interesting trends, and get rid of the less interesting ones :P | 18:05 |
| Daviey | tumbleweed: Yeah, i don't mean to be an ass; but i wanted to outline that many canonical people do consider themselves community developers aswell. | 18:06 |
| Daviey | tumbleweed: How about measure uploads by canonical at silly'o-clock in the morning? :) | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | I knew the fallacies involved in that, but wanted to get a feeling for how much is done by non-canonical people | 18:07 |
| tumbleweed | it's suprisingly steady | 18:07 |
| tumbleweed | (although the canonical vs community groupings are entirely thumbsucked) | 18:07 |
| Daviey | right | 18:09 |
| jtaylor | so my motu application is finally sent :) | 18:21 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: 4 endorsements already :P | 18:27 |
| tumbleweed | we need more applicants like this | 18:27 |
| jtaylor | I though you need to gather them before you apply? | 18:28 |
| tumbleweed | yes, right, the instructions say that. I think part of the reason for the 7 day againg was for people who follow devel-permissions to add comments and endorsements, too | 18:30 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: nice to see the cjwatson vs the world graph updated for precise :) | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | the dangers of simply counting uploads | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | although, that said, he does a staggering amount of work :) | 19:30 |
| ajmitch | when more than half a graph is dominated by one person, I think you can say that | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | there is also quite a long tail, that is cut off, but yes, you can still say that | 19:32 |
| cjwatson | it's a shame it's hard to identify rebuilds, because those really don't represent the same kind of work at all | 19:33 |
| tumbleweed | a single upload of something one has spent 6 months slaving over also only counts as 1. There are no easy ways out of that | 19:42 |
| tumbleweed | (I could easily exclude buildX uploads, though) | 19:42 |
| tumbleweed | iamfuzz: your ruby-rvm postinst assumes that there's an admin group, but that isn't there on a minimal install. Looking after that package? | 20:27 |
| broder | there isn't in general anymore, is there? i thought we were dropping the admin group for precise and replacing it with the sudo group | 20:28 |
| tumbleweed | jocky still creates it | 20:28 |
| tumbleweed | jockey | 20:28 |
| broder | huh | 20:28 |
| tumbleweed | which package was supposed to be creating it? sudo? I looked didn't see a maintainer script that looked responsible | 20:30 |
| iamfuzz | tumbleweed, yea, I can give it a look | 20:33 |
| iamfuzz | I need to update it at some point anyway | 20:33 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I saw a bug requesting that :) | 20:33 |
| micahg | jtaylor: thanks for putting your MOTU app in :) | 20:46 |
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