[02:49] ibeardslee: yeah, I think I've earned it already - doesn't take long to get that one back :) === thumper is now known as thumper-afk === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [08:39] people been following the Koha trademark fun and games? [09:06] oh yes, it's depressing reading [09:16] it's not all doom at this point. I understand there is actually 3 months to object [09:17] there is now a bit of cash in the 'defence fund' and I've heard of a couple of law firms offering their services pro-bono [09:17] the NZOSS will do some rattling [18:47] morning [18:48] morning [19:00] morning [19:22] mornin [19:23] hello [19:28] morning [19:36] spot the odd one out [19:36] Atamira's missing a g? [19:36] and sadsun is being different today [19:37] it's not really morning in .nl though :) [19:37] I have to, u stole my "mornin'" :P [19:38] feels like morning here in .nl ^^ [19:38] hmm, there are a few people in here I haven't met in real life [19:38] u guys meet? cool [19:38] chilts: I've met you very briefly at LCA, iirc [19:39] was that at the drunken Thursday night thing? [19:39] sadsun: not formally, just in circles as and when it happens [19:39] I think it was the open day or something [19:39] I see, still nice [19:40] hmm, wish I was going to LCA again this year [19:40] * ajmitch has flights booked for LCA [19:40] I should get the company to pay for it - which shouldn't be hard because I own the company [19:40] I just can't afford it :D [19:40] I just need to pay for the LCA tickets [19:41] * ibeardslee didn't need to pay for LCA tickets [19:41] works is paying for flights + accom [19:41] nowai [19:41] ah well, good on yer :) [19:41] work is just paying for flights for me [19:41] better than nothing, for sure :) [19:42] * ibeardslee is speaking, ticket is 'free' [19:42] .. [19:42] what are you speaking on? [19:42] what does LCA stand for? [19:42] linux.conf.au [19:42] * ibeardslee suddenly feels quite sick about the idea of speaking [19:42] ajmitch: The Catalyst Open Source Academy [19:42] it's an annual conference that attracts quite a few people [19:43] sadsum: so you're in .nl? what are you doing hanging out here then (not that we mind, everyone is welcome)? I'm just wondering the connection [19:43] ibeardslee: I'll have to come along then :) [19:43] trying to get work in kiwiland [19:43] ah, gotchyer :) [19:43] ibeardslee: is that in January again? [19:44] jan 16-20 in ballarat [19:44] if you're talking about the LCA dates :) [19:44] * chilts was asking about the Catalyst Open Source Academy [19:50] chilts: yes [19:50] weeks of the 9th and 16th [19:50] so yes I'll be at LCA talking about the Academy during the 2nd week [19:51] do you have a project you could mentor? [19:51] not really one big enough for the academy [19:52] but I'd be happy to help [19:52] why not? 2-4 students working on a project, you guiding them through to make commits to it [19:52] most of my projects are pretty small ... wouldn't be enough work for 2-4 students [19:53] got things that need to be started? new features planned? [19:53] ok, my last project took me about 8 hrs to do - it's now feature complete :) [19:54] seriously, I don't work on anything the size of Drupal or Koha [19:54] doesn't need to be that size [19:54] I'm doing small libraries for NodeJS at the moment [19:54] so you've got people doing Koha, Mahara, Moodle? Drupal? any others? [19:55] last year we had Grant's xml:sax and andrew's davical stuff [19:55] also remember that I work for myself, so I don't have a lot of spare time where I'm not trying to earn a living :) [19:55] true [19:56] if I worked for a large organisisation who was happy to sponsor my time on something, I'd jump at the chance ... sorry :) [19:57] fair enough .. worth a crack [19:57] I could always ask on the NodeJS mailing list if anyone wants something doing? [19:58] there is plenty of development going on around there at the moment [20:01] sure .. we'd need a mentor to help work with the students though [20:03] yeah, no problems, that would definitely rule me out then :) [20:08] They don't need to be 100% .. you could work from the corner of L4 during that week ;) [20:13] morning [20:27] hey thumper .. I've been actively looking for more of the stuff coming for/from Ubuntu [20:27] the UDS stuff is interesting [20:27] hi ibeardslee [21:47] morning [21:48] good to be back in NZ, and for more than 3 days this time [21:49] top tip - if you have a returning residents visa, you count as "NZ and Australian passports" for immigration [21:49] at least according to the immigration guy at the desk last night [21:53] * ajmitch should probably renew his passport soon [21:54] who knows how long it'd take to process a passport renewal in late december/early january [21:56] that reminds me .. [22:02] eep, conversation [22:02] mornign [22:04] olly_: you can tell this by the signs that say "NZ and Australian Passports

Residents" can't you? at least at AKL [22:04] admittedly, when i've just escaped from a long haul flight is not tip-top time for observation [22:34] mwhudson: they don't at WLG [22:35] ah right [22:35] yes, i've noticed that [22:35] you [22:35] 're probably right about AKL [22:35] now you mention it, I do STR gthat [22:36] yeah, I was told that the time before last so the last time I went through NZ passports and it was pretty fast :) [22:36] nice to know since the signs don't usually tell you [22:36] WLG seem quite anal at checking non-resident's documentation [22:36] return tickets, etc [22:37] i've only come in at AKL as a non-resident, and they weren't so bad, so either it has changed, or AKL has computer systems which relay the airline info or something [22:37] guy in front seemed to be trying to show his return ticket on his phone, which the desk guy didn't like [22:38] as if a paper print out is harder to forge