[02:49] <chilts> ibeardslee: yeah, I think I've earned it already - doesn't take long to get that one back :)
[08:39] <ibeardslee> people been following the Koha trademark fun and games?
[09:06] <ajmitch> oh yes, it's depressing reading
[09:16] <ibeardslee> it's not all doom at this point. I understand there is actually 3 months to object
[09:17] <ibeardslee> there is now a bit of cash in the 'defence fund' and I've heard of a couple of law firms offering their services pro-bono
[09:17] <ibeardslee> the NZOSS will do some rattling
[18:47] <chilts> morning
[18:48] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:00] <hads> morning
[19:22] <Atamira> mornin
[19:23] <sadsun> hello
[19:28] <ajmitch> morning
[19:36] <chilts> spot the odd one out
[19:36] <ajmitch> Atamira's missing a g?
[19:36] <Atamira> and sadsun is being different today
[19:37] <ajmitch> it's not really morning in .nl though :)
[19:37] <sadsun> I have to, u stole my "mornin'" :P
[19:38] <sadsun> feels like morning here in .nl ^^
[19:38] <chilts> hmm, there are a few people in here I haven't met in real life
[19:38] <sadsun> u guys meet? cool
[19:38] <ajmitch> chilts: I've met you very briefly at LCA, iirc
[19:39] <chilts> was that at the drunken Thursday night thing?
[19:39] <chilts> sadsun: not formally, just in circles as and when it happens
[19:39] <ajmitch> I think it was the open day or something
[19:39] <sadsun> I see, still nice
[19:40] <chilts> hmm, wish I was going to LCA again this year
[19:40]  * ajmitch has flights booked for LCA
[19:40] <chilts> I should get the company to pay for it - which shouldn't be hard because I own the company
[19:40] <chilts> I just can't afford it :D
[19:40] <ajmitch> I just need to pay for the LCA tickets
[19:41]  * ibeardslee didn't need to pay for LCA tickets
[19:41] <ibeardslee> works is paying for flights + accom
[19:41] <chilts> nowai
[19:41] <chilts> ah well, good on yer :)
[19:41] <ajmitch> work is just paying for flights for me
[19:41] <ajmitch> better than nothing, for sure :)
[19:42]  * ibeardslee is speaking, ticket is 'free'
[19:42] <ibeardslee> ..
[19:42] <ajmitch> what are you speaking on?
[19:42] <sadsun> what does LCA stand for?
[19:42] <ajmitch> linux.conf.au
[19:42]  * ibeardslee suddenly feels quite sick about the idea of speaking 
[19:42] <ibeardslee> ajmitch: The Catalyst Open Source Academy
[19:42] <ajmitch> it's an annual conference that attracts quite a few people
[19:43] <chilts> sadsum: so you're in .nl? what are you doing hanging out here then (not that we mind, everyone is welcome)? I'm just wondering the connection
[19:43] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: I'll have to come along then :)
[19:43] <sadsun> trying to get work in kiwiland
[19:43] <chilts> ah, gotchyer :)
[19:43] <chilts> ibeardslee: is that in January again?
[19:44] <ajmitch> jan 16-20 in ballarat
[19:44] <ajmitch> if you're talking about the LCA dates :)
[19:44]  * chilts was asking about the Catalyst Open Source Academy
[19:50] <ibeardslee> chilts: yes
[19:50] <ibeardslee> weeks of the 9th and 16th
[19:50] <ibeardslee> so yes I'll be at LCA talking about the Academy during the 2nd week
[19:51] <ibeardslee> do you have a project you could mentor?
[19:51] <chilts> not really one big enough for the academy
[19:52] <chilts> but I'd be happy to help
[19:52] <ibeardslee> why not?  2-4 students working on a project, you guiding them through to make commits to it
[19:52] <chilts> most of my projects are pretty small ... wouldn't be enough work for 2-4 students
[19:53] <ibeardslee> got things that need to be started? new features planned?
[19:53] <chilts> ok, my last project took me about 8 hrs to do - it's now feature complete :)
[19:54] <chilts> seriously, I don't work on anything the size of Drupal or Koha
[19:54] <ibeardslee> doesn't need to be that size
[19:54] <chilts> I'm doing small libraries for NodeJS at the moment
[19:54] <chilts> so you've got people doing Koha, Mahara, Moodle? Drupal? any others?
[19:55] <ibeardslee> last year we had Grant's xml:sax and andrew's davical stuff
[19:55] <chilts> also remember that I work for myself, so I don't have a lot of spare time where I'm not trying to earn a living :)
[19:55] <ibeardslee> true
[19:56] <chilts> if I worked for a large organisisation who was happy to sponsor my time on something, I'd jump at the chance ... sorry :)
[19:57] <ibeardslee> fair enough .. worth a crack
[19:57] <chilts> I could always ask on the NodeJS mailing list if anyone wants something doing?
[19:58] <chilts> there is plenty of development going on around there at the moment
[20:01] <ibeardslee> sure .. we'd need a mentor to help work with the students though
[20:03] <chilts> yeah, no problems, that would definitely rule me out then :)
[20:08] <ibeardslee> They don't need to be 100% .. you could work from the corner of L4 during that week ;)
[20:13] <thumper> morning
[20:27] <ibeardslee> hey thumper .. I've been actively looking for more of the stuff coming for/from Ubuntu
[20:27] <ibeardslee> the UDS stuff is interesting
[20:27] <thumper> hi ibeardslee
[21:47] <olly_> morning
[21:48] <olly_> good to be back in NZ, and for more than 3 days this time
[21:49] <olly_> top tip - if you have a returning residents visa, you count as "NZ and Australian passports" for immigration
[21:49] <olly_> at least according to the immigration guy at the desk last night
[21:53]  * ajmitch should probably renew his passport soon
[21:54] <ajmitch> who knows how long it'd take to process a passport renewal in late december/early january
[21:56] <ibeardslee> that reminds me ..
[22:02] <mwhudson> eep, conversation
[22:02] <mwhudson> mornign
[22:04] <mwhudson> olly_: you can tell this by the signs that say "NZ and Australian Passports <hr> Residents" can't you?  at least at AKL
[22:04] <mwhudson> admittedly, when i've just escaped from a long haul flight is not tip-top time for observation
[22:34] <olly_> mwhudson: they don't at WLG
[22:35] <mwhudson> ah right
[22:35] <mwhudson> yes, i've noticed that
[22:35] <olly_> you
[22:35] <olly_> 're probably right about AKL
[22:35] <olly_> now you mention it, I do STR gthat
[22:36] <chilts> yeah, I was told that the time before last so the last time I went through NZ passports and it was pretty fast :)
[22:36] <chilts> nice to know since the signs don't usually tell you
[22:36] <olly_> WLG seem quite anal at checking non-resident's documentation
[22:36] <olly_> return tickets, etc
[22:37] <olly_> i've only come in at AKL as a non-resident, and they weren't so bad, so either it has changed, or AKL has computer systems which relay the airline info or something
[22:37] <olly_> guy in front seemed to be trying to show his return ticket on his phone, which the desk guy didn't like
[22:38] <olly_> as if a paper print out is harder to forge