[01:51] <zoopster> hola
[01:53] <itnet7> Hey there zoopster !
[02:00] <itnet7> Hey there govatent !
[02:01] <zoopster> hiya itnet7
[02:01] <itnet7> How's it going?
[02:02] <govatent> hey guys
[02:02] <govatent> made it just in time. 
[02:02] <govatent> this week just won't end
[02:02] <itnet7> govatent: I wouldn't worry about it too much, no one has added any agenda items
[02:02] <govatent> i have people asking me for favors left and right. have not even had time to load ubuntu on my new laptop yet 
[02:03] <govatent> We can still bring up things that were not added right? 
[02:03] <itnet7> Oh of course!
[02:03] <govatent> ill brb. left my cell phone in my car. 
[02:04] <itnet7> k
[02:06] <govatent> ok i am ready 
[02:06] <itnet7> Well, I'm not sure how many are here
[02:06] <govatent> how was your ride up? 
[02:06] <itnet7> It was not bad at all
[02:07] <itnet7> I actually went with RoAkSoAx on a 90 minute boat tour of Fisher Island(s)
[02:07] <govatent> NICE! I love those tours. its really nice 
[02:07] <govatent> I know a friend that works as a mac tech for a house on the island 
[02:07] <itnet7> cool
[02:09] <govatent> Can I pm you? 
[02:09] <itnet7> Sure
[02:09] <itnet7> anytime
[02:11] <zoopster> are we having a meeting?
[02:11] <zoopster> I actually showed up for once
[02:12] <itnet7> zoopster: I am not sure who's present. I didn't send out a notice, and unfortunately there's no real agenda to speak of 
[02:13] <itnet7> govatent wanted to talk about some stuff though
[02:13] <zoopster> well...put me on the record as being here, please.
[02:13] <itnet7> sSo we can talk about it, if he wants to!
[02:13] <govatent> :)
[02:13] <govatent> zoopster: i saw you. :) 
[02:14] <zoopster> thanks govatent!
[02:14] <zoopster> ok back to packaging now...lovely
[02:15] <itnet7> There's Chloric
[02:15] <itnet7> !!!
[02:15] <chloric> evening itnet
[02:15] <govatent> chloric: bellsouth.net!!! :P 
[02:15] <chloric> evening florida
[02:16] <chloric> whats going on?
[02:16] <chloric> have you guys finished the agenda??
[02:16] <itnet7>    chloric nothing really was added
[02:16] <govatent> Chloric, i wanted to talk about starting to pick a day for our monthly meetings. I would like to host a soflo ubuntu blog, maybe a bi-weekly podcast of ubuntu south florida, or florida. and a few other ideas I was thinking about after our cafe meetup 
[02:16] <chloric> want to make next months hour for the 17th??
[02:16] <itnet7> govatent: Sweet!!
[02:17] <itnet7> Were you guys serious about having another meetup the week before Christmas at PLC?
[02:17] <chloric> yeah, we're serious :)
[02:18] <chloric> lets do it on the 17th or 18th
[02:18] <govatent> let me open a calendar app so i can see what day it lands on 
[02:18] <chloric> sat/sun
[02:18] <govatent> instead of doing a day, could we say like the second saterday of every month? 
[02:19] <itnet7> I think if we were to begin pluggin that day we can get a bunch more people to go
[02:19] <chloric> well, remember this months meeting landed late in the month
[02:19] <itnet7> chloric: Yeah!
[02:19] <chloric> so lets not space the next one too close to the first
[02:19] <govatent> maybe the next one could be a forced date, but i think picking the second saterday of every month would be better because if we use numbers it won't land on a weekend always 
[02:19] <chloric> after that, we can space them more accordingly
[02:20] <chloric> can Jorge Castro hookup the store with some swag??
[02:20] <itnet7> jcastro: ping
[02:20] <govatent> before we talk about that, lets get our dates sorted out. 
[02:20] <govatent> i think 
[02:20] <chloric> we said he would try
[02:20] <chloric> next on the 17th
[02:20] <jcastro> itnet7: yo
[02:20] <govatent> i am sure he will likely get us something 
[02:20] <govatent> hey jcastro 
[02:21] <itnet7> chloric, I'm not sure he can in time.... but he might be able to
[02:21] <itnet7> Hey there!!
[02:21] <chloric> then the third on Jan. 14th
[02:21] <chloric> Also, there is apparently a Palm Beach LUG
[02:21] <itnet7> The guys were talking about doing another event at the Planet Linux Caffe, on the weekend of Dec 17-18
[02:21] <chloric> I didnt know about them
[02:21] <govatent> there is also a soflo lug 
[02:22] <itnet7> is there a chance we might be able to get some swag by then for the store?
[02:22] <jcastro> send me a mail
[02:22] <jcastro> (sorry I am in the middle of some testing)
[02:22] <itnet7> will do
[02:23] <itnet7> no worries
[02:23] <chloric> no problem
[02:23] <itnet7> charms/
[02:23] <itnet7> ?
[02:23] <chloric> Next hour, i want to set up a IRC channel
[02:23] <chloric> and a G+ Hangout
[02:24] <itnet7> chloric / govatent maybe we can do a holiday party or just dub it a Team Party
[02:24] <itnet7> at Planet Linux Caffe
[02:25] <chloric> that sounds good. So, lets one the 17th of dec. and 14of jan.
[02:25] <chloric> let's set up a G+ Hangout
[02:25] <itnet7> You don't have to, I was just thinking that it might inspire families to come out
[02:25] <govatent> I need to learn hangout 
[02:25] <govatent> so our next meetup is the 17th for sure? 
[02:27] <itnet7> chloric: for the meetup
[02:27] <itnet7> ?
[02:28] <chloric> yeah
[02:28] <govatent> cool
[02:29] <chloric> for the third one, we need to do a becast
[02:29] <chloric> webcast***
[02:29] <itnet7> I would like to play with the hangout thing a bit beforehand, I've only joined one or two during the beginning stages of g+
[02:29] <itnet7> chloric: that would Rock!!
[02:29] <itnet7> I have a great webcam
[02:29] <itnet7> for streaming
[02:29] <govatent> I have a 720p cam. if it counts for anything. 
[02:29] <govatent> although?.its the ms one. :P
[02:30] <govatent> i got it for 10 bucks marked down from 60 or 70
[02:30] <govatent> could not turn that down 
[02:30] <itnet7> govatent: yours probably is better than mine!
[02:31] <bluebomber> Evening, all!
[02:31] <itnet7> Hey there bluebomber !
[02:31] <govatent> hey bluebomber. want some candy?
[02:31] <itnet7> ROFL
[02:31] <itnet7> bluebomber: govatent received that candy in the mail!
[02:32] <govatent> after the meeting on the 17th, can we agree to pick like the second saterday of each month of the meetups from then on? 
[02:32] <govatent> or do we just pick a date every meeting? 
[02:32] <bluebomber> Oh, no nononononono.
[02:32] <bluebomber> (to the candy)
[02:32] <govatent> lol
[02:32] <govatent> :)
[02:32] <govatent> i will even drive it up to you if you wish 
[02:33] <bluebomber> In fact, these pretzels that I'm munching just mysteriously started to taste like that candy at its mere mention.
[02:33] <itnet7> bluebomber: lol
[02:34] <govatent> bluebomber: http://fazer.angrybirds.com/
[02:35] <itnet7> govatent: that's awesome
[02:35] <bluebomber> lol
[02:35] <bluebomber> This isn't a meeting, right <scrolls up/>
[02:36] <govatent> it is. just got sidetracked 
[02:36] <govatent> i was waiting to get an answer to a question 
[02:36] <govatent> if chloric is still awake :P
[02:37] <itnet7> bluebomber: no official agenda, so really informal
[02:37] <itnet7> Well, Count me in for the 17th, Hopefully I'll bring my family, and fill the other seats in the van!
[02:37] <bluebomber> OK, cool.
[02:37] <govatent> great. 
[02:38] <bluebomber> I'm in a meeting with the US Pirate Party right now, too.
[02:38] <bluebomber> o.O*
[02:38] <govatent> NICE!!!
[02:38] <govatent> Give them some candy !
[02:38] <itnet7> lol
[02:38] <itnet7> argh
[02:38] <govatent> btw, i hate to say this, but i am liking osx. 
[02:38] <itnet7> govatent: they remember the candy
[02:39] <itnet7> I might see if Bryanstein want's to come with 
[02:40] <govatent> Is there a public place I can share ideas Id like to work on for the group to see? 
[02:40] <itnet7> Well, you can either use the wiki, or come up with another idea... etherpad?
[02:41] <itnet7> or
[02:41] <chloric> sorry
[02:41] <chloric> i'm back
[02:41] <govatent> the loco wiki? 
[02:41] <govatent> hey chlroic sorry to bug you 
[02:42] <itnet7> Or you can begin a team discussion on the Ubuntu Forums Florida team section
[02:42] <itnet7> or www.ubuntu-fl.org even
[02:42] <govatent> chloric: Can we meet the second saterday of every month after? (Other than for special events like installs tests and stuff.) 
[02:42] <chloric> yes
[02:43] <chloric> but the second weekend of next month might be too close the first meeting. alan, i said it twice before :p yes yes and yes
[02:43] <govatent> Ill add the next few months worth of meetups to a public spot 
[02:43] <govatent> wanna do the third sat then? 
[02:43] <chloric> no
[02:43] <itnet7> GGovatent,
[02:43] <chloric> second is fine
[02:43] <itnet7> put them on the LoCo Directory
[02:43] <zoopster> I'd just keep it consistent...don't worry about dec
[02:44] <itnet7> then aadvertise them on g+ and facebook both
[02:44] <govatent> ok. so second sat of each month it is. i will work heavily on adverts 
[02:44] <itnet7> have the registration on the LoCo Team Portal I mean
[02:44] <bluebomber> I'm pretty good with whatever.
[02:44] <bluebomber> (non-conflicting opinion)
[02:44] <govatent> lol your going to drive to soflo? :) 
[02:45] <govatent> I was thinking about also doing a mailing list for soflo
[02:45] <govatent> I have a little list here of things i want to work on for soflo / fl 
[02:45] <chloric> alan, theres a Palm Beach LoCo
[02:45] <govatent> oh ?i think it was a lug not an ubuntu loco? 
[02:45] <govatent> thought* 
[02:46] <itnet7> There is a lug
[02:46] <chloric> i said lug, not ubuntu :p
[02:46] <chloric> but why discriminate
[02:46] <govatent> true. but i thought the point of a loco was to push ubuntu? 
[02:46] <chloric> not exactly
[02:47] <chloric> at least not in my opinion
[02:47] <govatent> I met with the south florida lug and they were split on their views of ubuntu when i went to one of their meetups 
[02:47] <chloric> then lets not push ubuntu as the only system... like I have always believed. 
[02:48] <govatent> itnet7 what do you say? 
[02:48] <chloric> let's see if they can come down. after all, the place is Planet Linux Cafe, not Planet Ubuntu Cafe :P
[02:48] <govatent> agreed. 
[02:49] <itnet7> It depends in a way
[02:49] <itnet7> if you plan to do a Florida Team Event, it would be fine to have others join us
[02:50] <itnet7> but I don't think you should have a Florida Team event and push a different distro to everyone. With that being said, everyone would be welcome to come
[02:51] <itnet7> There's nothing wrong with doing a South Florida Event though
[02:52] <chloric> I think it should be a meetup HOSTED by the Florida LoCo, therefore it is Linux oriented for any distro with knowledge that the Ubuntu LoCo of Florida is organizing it
[02:53] <govatent> I just don't want to start a distro war. I am glad talking open source in general. 
[02:54] <chloric> That's my point. It's just an event HOSTED by the Ubuntu Florida LoCo
[02:54] <itnet7> That doesn't sound bad
[02:54] <chloric> how so?
[02:55] <govatent> ok i get it 
[02:55] <chloric> oops, I misread
[02:55] <govatent> lol of course you did :p 
[02:55] <govatent> troll 
[02:55] <chloric> Yeah, so I think thats how it should roll
[02:55] <chloric> An even at the Linux Caffee for anything OSS hosted by us. 
[02:56] <itnet7> ?
[02:56] <itnet7> An event at?
[02:56] <chloric> Thats so it can remain as neutral as possible without starting any distro wars.
[02:56] <chloric> Planet Linux Caffee
[02:57] <itnet7> I was trying to read the sentence that you had typed I didn't know if it was supposed to be, "And even", or An event"
[02:57] <itnet7> Distro Wars arent' constructive
[02:57] <chloric> an event*
[02:58] <govatent> yea we are trying to avoid a distro war with our events. we went to leave them netural. not just ubuntu based. i think 
[02:59] <chloric> so that settles it :)
[02:59] <govatent> chloric: we should just meet up soon to get things started. I am taking notes of what has to be done. i have a few ideas i also would like to chat with you about in person. 
[02:59] <govatent> maybe this weekend or something we can meet. ill drive to you 
[02:59] <itnet7> That's fine, just remember that we are supposed to be Advocates of Ubuntu
[03:00] <chloric> it will have to be sunday it i get back from camping sunday
[03:00] <govatent> itnet7 that's my point. how do we advocate ubuntu while not starting distro wars if we invite the lugs 
[03:00] <chloric> We advocate Ubuntu by sponsoring the event
[03:00] <chloric> thats hpw
[03:00] <govatent> i guess. 
[03:00] <chloric> how*
[03:00] <itnet7> exactly
[03:00] <bluebomber> We also could require proof of ubuntu installation for entering the premise.
[03:01] <govatent> ok. then that is all good. 
[03:01] <itnet7> ROFL
[03:01] <bluebomber> XD
[03:01] <itnet7> bluebomber +1 LOL
[03:01] <govatent> no to get in you just need to eat some candy 
[03:01] <chloric> xD we need an Ubuntu Bouncer
[03:01] <bluebomber> chloric: THIS.
[03:01] <govatent> lol
[03:02] <crashsystems> greetings florida
[03:02] <itnet7> Hey there crashsystems !
[03:02] <chloric> greetings!
[03:02] <bluebomber> Hi, crashsystems.
[03:03] <zoopster> hey crashsystems assimilated into CA yet?
[03:03] <govatent> hey crashsystems!!
[03:03] <crashsystems> yep. getting ready to move apartments to mountain view next month
[03:03] <zoopster> nice
[03:03] <itnet7> crashsystems: sweet!!
[03:03] <govatent> would you house a visitor in the future? 
[03:04] <crashsystems> there is a bunch of google people in that area, for obvious reasons
[03:04] <crashsystems> possibly. I'd have to see what my housing situation was like first
[03:04] <zoopster> heh...lot's of all kinds of techies in that area...
[03:04] <crashsystems> yeah
[03:04] <crashsystems> are you thinking of making a trip up here govatent ?
[03:04] <govatent> in the future don't see why not 
[03:05] <govatent> nothing for now. i might go to dc in december. my family wants to go 
[03:05] <govatent> but i don't know if ill go 
[03:05] <zoopster> yeesh...dc in december...cold, cold, cold
[03:06] <zoopster> dc in spring...cherry blossoms
[03:06] <itnet7> Have to go, gnight all!! 
[03:06] <zoopster> see ya itnet7
[03:06] <govatent> good night itnet7 thanks for your help
[03:06] <itnet7> govatent: no problem!
[03:06] <itnet7> talk with you soon!!
[03:07] <govatent> yup
[03:08] <chloric> see ya later it
[03:08] <itnet7> talk with you soon chloric, peace!
[03:09] <govatent> chloric, ill hit you up later to figure so we can chill and talk about this some more before the 17th rolls around 
[03:12] <chloric> we can try for this sunday
[03:12] <chloric> i'll give you a heads up though
[03:12] <chloric> meet at the cafe?
[03:16] <govatent> sure that would be wicked 
[03:16] <govatent> ok guys i am out . have to do some things 
[03:17] <govatent> night everyone 
[18:21] <govatent> itnet7: ping 
[18:22] <govatent> can someone tell me how to upgrade a debian system to kernel 3? 
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> govatent: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[18:39] <maxolase1squad> http://www.pixoulphotography.com/2011/11/23/official-uds-p-group-photo-and-personal-photo-set/
[18:39] <maxolase1squad> The UDS group photos are finally up.
[18:39] <govatent> nice!!!
[18:40] <maxolase1squad> I've found you and choloric.
[18:40] <govatent> thanks for the link maxo
[18:40] <govatent> want some candy? 
[18:41] <maxolase1squad> Hmmm ...
[18:41] <govatent> the Finnish candy :P 
[18:41] <govatent> i keep making jokes about it 
[18:41] <maxolase1squad> I see balloon and mhall119 too
[18:42] <maxolase1squad> Dang, only my forhead made it in.
[18:43] <govatent> lol
[18:43] <govatent> i am on a very slow connection right now. takes forever to load one picture 
[18:43] <maxolase1squad> It's probably your Mac. 
[18:43]  * maxolase1squad runs for cover.
[18:45] <govatent> lol
[19:03] <maxolase1squad> Anyonelooking for a good laugh should start a G+ hangoung and turn on mustache.
[19:04] <maxolase1squad> You can join my hangout if you'd like, but I'm not available to actually hang out.
[19:06] <raubvogel> maxolase1squad: Excellent!
[19:07] <raubvogel> And, I did look good holding the warthog guy
[19:07] <raubvogel> maxolase1squad: I do have an evil moustache at home ;)
[19:08] <govatent> how do i join your hangout? 
[19:10] <maxolase1squad> Visit my page thingy thing.
[19:11] <govatent> lol
[19:11] <maxolase1squad> https://plus.google.com/112112002891101502746
[19:11] <maxolase1squad> Profile page.
[19:14] <govatent> look at that, i did not add you as a friend on gplus 
[19:17] <maxolase1squad> Accepted.
[19:25] <govatent> i can't find the hangout thing
[19:26] <maxolase1squad> You should see it in the right under "Hangouts"
[19:26] <maxolase1squad> "1 Hangout is live now!"
[19:28] <govatent> got it
[19:32] <govatent> google hangout is epic sweet!
[20:35] <maxolase1squad> Google confirms Galaxy Nexus will hit next month.
[20:36] <maxolase1squad> http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-launching-in-december-2011-11
[20:38] <govatent> gtg. take care. ill be on later
[20:39] <govatent> sweet. can't wait for people to start picking it up in the us