[00:00] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: also check your network configuration. could you perhaps be only connected on a local fall back apipa address or something? like 169.254.*?
[00:01] <machiolate> how do I use a program signature key such as 'suchandsuch.tar.gz.sign' ?
[00:01] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: yep, two lines for localhost and hostname. resolv.conf is from my laptop that is connected right now
[00:02] <SolarisBoy1> can you paste bin the config files from each?
[00:02] <iamweirdie> is anybody availible?
[00:02] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: domain ph.cox.net search ph.cox.net nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 nameserver 68.105.28.11
[00:03] <SolarisBoy1> those look like they were provided from ISP dhcp...
[00:03] <linda> Are these official Ubuntu packages?:  https://launchpad.net/~brian-rogers/+archive/graphics-fixes-testing/+packages
[00:03] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: the last name server was, 1 and 2 are google because my ISP fails and that keeps me up more when they fail
[00:04] <linda> Am I going to do some sort of blacklisting is I use this kernel-patch?
[00:05] <szal> linda: that is obviously a PPA (Personal Package Archive), so totally unofficial
[00:05] <machiolate> anyone happen to know how I would use a program signature key such as 'suchandsuch.tar.gz.sign' ?
[00:05] <elkingrey> Can somebody tell me how to adjust the positions of the icons in the Unity bar?
[00:05] <machiolate> for the program 'suchandsuch' :P
[00:06] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: please post /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf ; the networking configuration on each (ifconfig -a, arp -an , netstat -rn, hostname, host localhost, host <hostname> where you fill it in with your hostname)
[00:06] <linda> Well, ... is there any sort of bug-tracking on this yet?
[00:06] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: to pastebin
[00:06] <nbros652> elkingrey: click hold, and move
[00:06] <elkingrey> I do that and it won't, the whole bar just lifts up
[00:07] <nbros652> elkingrey: you have to wait for it to detach
[00:07] <elkingrey> Oh, how long?
[00:07] <nbros652> a second or two
[00:07] <linda> This is definately a broken system I have here.
[00:08] <nbros652> elkingrey: kinda like on an android phone when you want to move icons on the home screen.
[00:08] <elkingrey> Stiill not working. The whole list of icons detaches from the trash can, but that's it
[00:08] <elkingrey> don't know about android
[00:08] <nbros652> elkingrey: what icon are you trying to move?
[00:08] <elkingrey> Okay, I figured it out, you have to move it OUT and then AROUND
[00:09] <elkingrey> Thanks
[00:09] <nbros652> elkingrey: no prob.
[00:10] <localg0d> does anyone know a program that will shrink the file size of a slideshow video with audio ? or recompress it ??? winff is not bringing the size down ! ??? please help
[00:10] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: http://pastebin.com/JvWX2HS3
[00:11] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: box1 is working, box2 isn't
[00:16] <reisio> linda: sorry went to another room, figure out your thing?
[00:16] <ShadwReevr> SolarisBoy1: see anything that could be the issue?
[00:18] <localg0d> does anyone know a program that will shrink the file size of a slideshow video with audio ? or recompress it ??? winff is not bringing the size down ! ??? please help
[00:18] <linda> Was directed to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes so I followed the link to  Brian Rogers' ppa https://launchpad.net/~brian-rogers/+archive/graphics-fixes-testing
[00:18] <linda> reisio: so....
[00:19] <linda> I guess that's it.  If I wanna fix it, I use Brian Rogers' kernel.  *(Unless someone has better idea...).
[00:19] <linda> Anyone.....?
[00:20] <reisio> localg0d: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg pastebinit && ffmpeg -i path/to/video 2>&1 | tee > foo.txt | pastebinit
[00:20] <reisio> linda: I didn't catch what the original problem was
[00:20] <linda> I suppose I could install another display adapter.  ... But you know, the stupid part is that the system boots up and runs just fine, for about 1/2 hour or so, and then all the sudden it drops a perfectly good screen and goes to "Low grapahics mode".
[00:21] <localg0d> ??? reisio ???
[00:21] <reisio> localg0d: it's a command, run it
[00:21] <reisio> localg0d: actually do this instead
[00:21] <reisio> localg0d: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg pastebinit && ffmpeg -i path/to/video 2>&1 | tee | pastebinit
[00:21] <linda> After about 1/2 hour or so, (didn't really time it but...) It goes to black screen with error window saying:   "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" "Your screen graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure them yourself."
[00:22] <linda> And there is no way to fix it other than to reboot.
[00:22] <reisio> linda: what's the graphics device?
[00:22] <linda> But before that, it loads up a perfectly good screen.  (Just as it is now...)
[00:23] <linda>  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[00:23] <linda> Seems pretty stupid.
[00:24] <linda> I suppose I could install another display adapter.  ... the system boots up and runs just fine, for about 1/2 hour or so, and then all the sudden it drops a perfectly good screen and goes to "Low grapahics mode".
[00:24] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: one doesn't appear to have a proper gateway address
[00:24] <linda> 1680x1050
[00:25] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: your also apparently behind some sort of nat so im not sure if you really want to use that domain and search line
[00:25] <rmt> I suppose, that if Ubuntu documented properly, one could discover, which app/script/daemon/plugin nowadays would respond to X11 volume up/down keypresses in an appropriate fashion .... ooooor  ?
[00:25] <reisio> rmt: check xev first
[00:25] <linda> Not a thing wrong with it... until later.  (I've allowed it to do it about 4 times now so it's pretty consistant.
[00:26] <rmt> reisio, BAH .. better answer.
[00:26] <reisio> rmt: as for what to map them to, dpkg -L pulseaudio | grep bin or dpkg -L alsa | grep bin will tell you
[00:26] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: also you have a hostname attached to a loopback IP in hosts Satellite and BigBlue
[00:26] <reisio> rmt: I use amixer sset Master 2+, for example, to increase volume, but I don't use pulse
[00:27] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: in affect these hosts do not know each other by name still,, the lan ip belongs as a pairing to a hostname you want available on a lan,, assuming your not using another method of resolution
[00:27] <rmt> freedesktop defines a set of key mappings that apps can request from the WM ..... but wtf app is the standard for Ubuntu/Unity nowadays..
[00:27] <rmt> I used to be able to count on gnome keybindings .. load the app once, and it would register them.. nowadays, wtf knows.
[00:28] <rmt> I can also bind keys using openbox to amixer or alsamixer or $OWN_CUSTOM_SCRIPT .. but seriously.. make it obvious, please.
[00:29] <rmt> If I want the standard GUI telling me that volume is going up or down .... how would I achieve that, without drinking the fucking coolaid?
[00:29] <machiolate> how do i know if my OS is x86 or not?
[00:29] <rmt> o/~ welcome to the hotel california o/~
[00:29] <SolarisBoy1> ShadwReevr: are you able to ping an external IP address from either? like 4.2.2.2 if so the issue is certainly your resolution setup there
[00:30] <aliendude5300> Hi, I'm having an issue upgrading to 11.10
[00:30] <aliendude5300> It says:
[00:30] <aliendude5300> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[00:30] <aliendude5300> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[00:30] <rmt> /o~ such a lovely place, such a lovely place, plenty of room at the hotel californida o/~
[00:30] <ntelos> hi...i ve a problem in installing backtrack 5 arm edition in my smartphone...may someone helps me?
[00:30] <reisio> RAFRESNEEFDESFREDDIEWASADEVIL
[00:31] <xangua> !backtrack | ntelos
[00:31] <machiolate> is there a way that I can find out all the details of my OS from within the terminal?
[00:32] <linda> So... I guess no one knows what to do other than use the patched kernel from Brian Rigers?
[00:32] <szal> machiolate: define 'all the details'
[00:32] <ntelos> ubottu thanks a lot!
[00:33] <machiolate> szal, i'm trying to compile a program, theres a list of OSs and I'm not sure which is mine..... there linux-x86-64any, linux-x86any etc
[00:33] <machiolate> linux-alpha, linux-sparc
[00:33] <Guest24063> I need to stop the xserver in ubuntu 11.10 to install a nvidia drivers, some one can help me?
[00:33] <linda> I mean.. I don't really have a problem with it, but... just wanting to know if anyone knows more about it.  So if anyone knows, please say so.  Surely there must be a bug report.  Right? No?
[00:34] <szal> machiolate: lsb_release -a (OS version), uname -a (kernel version and architecture)
[00:34] <szal> that should do for starters
[00:34] <Guest24063> how can i stop the x server in ubuntu 11.10 to install a nvidia drivers?
[00:34] <Guest24063> plz
[00:35] <reisio> Guest24063: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:35] <machiolate> awesome szal, thanks... think uname was the one i needed
[00:36] <Guest24063> reisio thank u, but theres is one way to do it manual, I now how to do it, but i need to stop the x server session
[00:36] <linda> Trying vesa driver...
[00:36] <reisio> Guest24063: why's that
[00:37] <reisio> whose brilliant idea was it to give everyone a guest# nick?  How about using random english words, gebus
[00:37] <Guest24063> I want to stop the x session, I mean, the graphics session, I need to do it in Terminal Mode
[00:37] <xangua> !nox | Guest24063
[00:38] <alien20501> Hi everyone! Quick question: When using uck-gui, before I was able to boot the liveusb install, in ram, as my own user, but now it seems to use only the user "ubuntu" by default. I haven't the slightest idea why it started doing that, it's possible that a package is missing from my updated install script... ne1 has an idea ?
[00:39] <Guest24063> ubottu let me see, thank u!
[00:39] <iamweirdie> hi can somebody help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/746506/
[00:40] <alien20501> has ne1 seen this behavior before ?
[00:40]  * alien20501 scratches head
[00:40] <linda> vesa driver not an option.  Using the patched kernel from Brian Rogers ppa
[00:40] <linda> Oh well....
[00:41] <ssfdre38> what /bin is used for shelled ssh access
[00:41] <Dyaa> soo
[00:41] <Dyaa> anything intressting
[00:41] <reisio> ssfdre38: ?
[00:42] <linda> Since I'm using Brian Rogers' kernel, just wondering if I need to blacklist something?  (To block a future kernel upgrade...?)
[00:42] <Dyaa> mtf programmers
[00:42] <kalesian> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing a 3TB drive as a secondary drive
[00:42] <ssfdre38> i want to do jailed ssh access and i want to know what to use for the /bin/bash
[00:42] <kalesian> anyone had any experience with this?
[00:43] <linda> ... what I want is something that is reliable.  Something I'm not going to have problems with in  the future.
[00:43] <somsip_> ssfdre38: rbash ?
[00:43] <linda> I want to do any fixing on it now, (while I have time), and don't want to be frustrated with it in the future.
[00:44] <yarrow> alien20501:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1720469.html  discusses a similar problem
[00:44] <Guest24063> It doesnt work, some one know how can I stop the X session?
[00:44] <alien20501> oh cool thx
[00:45] <somsip_> Guest24063: you trued "sudo init 1"?
[00:46] <Guest24063> doesnt work :(
[00:46] <Guest24063> somsip
[00:47] <alien20501> Guest24063 : I know of one way that always work, but save your data beforehand : pkill -9 lightdm && pkill -9 X
[00:47] <alien20501> if you're really stuck
[00:47] <Pici> Guest24063: sudo service lightdm stop
[00:47] <alien20501> and gdm doesn't respond
[00:47] <alien20501> gdm/lightdm
[00:48] <Guest24063> alien20501 Ok, let me try
[00:48] <Guest24063> thank u
[00:49] <alien20501> np
[00:49] <Ramides> Can anyone recommend a tiling window manager that plays nice with Xubuntu?
[00:50] <xfox> why tor runs better on windows than ubuntu?
[00:50] <jerenept> what do you mean?
[00:50] <xfox> its dont run here
[00:50] <Pici> !doesntwork
[00:50] <jerenept> It's always works for me
[00:52] <alien20501> yarrow: nah that doesn't seem to solve it... it's really weird, as if there is no notion of other user than ubuntu in live session anymore...
[00:52] <xfox> i cant install it.    privoxy ether
[00:52] <somsip_> Ramides: awesome works fine with vanilla Ubuntu. Can't see why it wouldn't work with Xubuntu
[00:53] <xfox> when a tip "sudo gedit /etc/privoxy/config" in terminal, its response "dont found directory"
[00:54] <Ramides> somsip_: thanks, i'll look into it
[00:55] <rafa19> doesnt work, somebody nows how to stop the x server session? I mean , i need a terminal session or text session
[00:55] <rafa19> to install drivers nvidia
[00:56] <rafa19> doesnt work, somebody nows how to stop the x server session? I mean , i need a terminal session or text session to install drivers nvidia
[00:56] <jerenept> sudo stop gdm
[00:57] <jerenept> or, on 11.10, sudo stop lightdm
[00:58] <antnash> Hey guys. Is there an equivalent for coda in linux?
[00:58] <jerenept> press ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a terminal and log in
[00:58] <soreau> jerenept: don't you mean service <name> <action>?
[00:58] <jerenept> ?
[00:59] <jerenept> I haven't used Ubuntu since 11.04, so I may be uninformed.
[00:59] <soreau> hm, looks like <action> <name> is valid too
[01:00] <jerenept> antnash: try Geany?
[01:01] <reisio> antnash: free or?
[01:02] <rafa19> quit
[01:04] <Pauluntu> Its interesting to me why is it like mandriva and suse they all have an excellent tool to manage the system why isn't there a distro thats deb based that has a good system tool like yast yet?
[01:05] <dissipate> has anyone here successfully mounted amazon s3 buckets in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:05] <szal> !ot | Pauluntu
[01:06] <Pauluntu> LOL irc police
[01:06] <reisio> off-topic AND.... off-topic AND...
[01:06] <reisio> smokin' the reefer
[01:07] <tron101> i need to change permissions to execute , whats the command  chmod ????? (file) ?
[01:08] <reisio> chmod +x foo
[01:08] <reisio> +x, for "awesome"
[01:08] <tron101> thx
[01:09] <antnash> jerenept, cheers I'll give it a go
[01:09] <antnash> reisio, yeah free
[01:10] <reisio> antnash: mmm, dunno man, maybe Aptana
[01:10] <antnash> geany and aptana. cheers guys
[01:16] <mbeierl> Anyone have issues with redraw problems using ATI cards on 11.04?  I've tried both radeon and ati but both have display issues where the screen is not updated properly
[01:16] <user8> По горизонтали:
[01:16] <user8> 3.Специальная микросхема для управления внешним устройством.
[01:16] <user8> 6.Устройство, обеспечивающее выполнение логических и арифметических операций.
[01:16] <user8> 10.Жесткий диск.
[01:16] <user8> 11.Печатающее устройство.
[01:16] <FloodBot1> user8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <user6> gfh'
[01:16] <soreau> mbeierl: Could be a damage issue with your window manager. Are you using compiz?
[01:16] <user6> hhh
[01:16] <user6> hhj
[01:16] <user6> hkhj
[01:16] <FloodBot1> user6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <user7> dsa
[01:17] <user7> 7657
[01:17] <user7> utyj
[01:17] <user6> khkh
[01:17] <soreau> ! ops
[01:17] <mbeierl> soreau: yes, I am. there used to be damage settings, but I don't know where to find them anymore.  Ideas?
[01:17] <soreau> mbeierl: There were never damage settings.
[01:17] <user8> 6.Устройство, обеспечивающее выполнение логических и арифметических операций.
[01:17] <user8> 10.Жесткий диск.
[01:17] <user8> 11.Печатающее устройство.
[01:17] <FloodBot1> user8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <soreau> mbeierl: It could be a bug in xdamage though
[01:17] <mbeierl> soreau: in beryl, i thought there were
[01:18] <soreau> mbeierl: Maybe but beryl has been long gone for years now
[01:18] <mbeierl> I'm an old timer when it comes to comiz, but have  been unfortunately out of it since about 10.04
[01:19] <soreau> mbeierl: Try a different window manager. If it fixes the problem, it's likely a bug in xdamage or the compositor (compiz)
[01:19] <julian> hello
[01:19] <mbeierl> soreau: actually, I do see the same bug using metacity, which, iirc, is not compositing
[01:20] <weenier> hey can anyone tell me how to launch a terminal from a script and to display a command but not exec it?
[01:20] <soreau> mbeierl: There is a script to install latest compiz on 11.04, but for xdamage you may have to update it manually (hard to say where the bug lies exactly but it's likely not the graphics driver)
[01:20] <soreau> mbeierl: Ok, then it's xdamage
[01:20] <mbeierl> soreau: would 11.10 have xdamage updates?
[01:20] <ktiron> hello everyone
[01:20] <soreau> mbeierl: Actually, metacity has a compositing option.. but I believe it's disabled by default
[01:20] <soreau> mbeierl: yes
[01:20] <jerenept> hello, ktiron.
[01:21] <mbeierl> k.  when I get a chance, i'll do the oneric update first, then go bleeding edge for xdamage.  see if it isn't already fixed
[01:21] <ktiron> im new to this program
[01:21] <mbeierl> soreau: ^ and thanks
[01:22] <ktiron> so does everyone here use ubuntu or some form of linux?
[01:22] <soreau> mbeierl: Try a live session to test
[01:22] <mbeierl> soreau:  good idea!  thanks
[01:22] <soreau> ! ask | ktiron
[01:23] <mbeierl> ktiron: and basically, yes, most everyone is here for Ubuntu support
[01:23] <ktiron> im sorry im new to this program
[01:23] <soreau> mbeierl: I'm pretty certain it's an xdamage bug because someone else had the same problem on another distro recently and it was indeed xdamage bug
[01:23] <mbeierl> soreau: you've made my day.  that gives me hope.  Starting download....
[01:23] <soreau> ktiron: No worries, just ask your question with as much detail as you can
[01:23] <ktiron> i dont think i asked any question more then once though...
[01:23] <soreau> mbeierl: No problem
[01:24] <mbeierl> ktiron: well.. welcome to the Ubuntu support IRC channel :)
[01:24] <soreau> ! welcome
[01:24] <soreau> Do'h!
[01:24] <reisio> ktiron: I use butterflies http://xkcd.com/378/
[01:25] <ktiron> Ok thank you soreau, and thank you mbeierl. i was just really wanting to see if i can really connect to more ubuntu users this directly for future references, im pleased that i can
[01:25] <dissipate> i guess no one using ubuntu has ever used amazon s3?? :O
[01:25] <iamweirdie> hello?
[01:25] <mbeierl> ktiron: and there is also @ubuntu-offtopic for more general conversations
[01:25] <reisio> dissipate: interesting guess
[01:25] <reisio> iamweirdie: hi
[01:25] <mbeierl> ktiron: I mean #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <pangolin> reisio: Please stick to the topic.
[01:26] <ktiron> ok thank you ill go now
[01:26] <soreau> ktiron: He wasn't talking to you
[01:26] <iamweirdie> reisio or someone can u help me with this pleeease? http://paste.ubuntu.com/746506/
[01:26] <mbeierl> dissipate: I have used S3, but to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing particular about S3 or Ubuntu that make them compatible or incompatible
[01:26] <_rfz> Hi, anyone run into this error on ubuntu 11.10 (latest updates) with libvirtd: Error: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[01:27] <iamweirdie> i've been on watching ppl pass by with help for the past hour DX
[01:27] <ShackJack> HI all, I was having a video issue with an *old* computer running (X)ubuntu.... After starting from grub, the text mode gets  messed up (blocky white - can't see letters) as well as splash screen;   is there a way to have dpkg scan/fix that video mode?
[01:27] <reisio> iamweirdie: ask the channel
[01:27] <dissipate> mbeierl, sorry, to be more specific, no one here has used s3fs to mount s3 buckets in ubuntu
[01:28] <iamweirdie> reisio whadya mean, like just ask? cuz i did that in hour intervals... about 3 times. i dont wanna look like a spammer
[01:29] <mbeierl> dissipate: again, I have, but that was 10.10 and it was for test purposes.  My experience was that it was... sub-optimal
[01:29] <Jordan_U> iamweirdie: People are more likely to look at your pastebin link if you give a brief description of the problem so that they can tell that it is (or isn't) an area they're interested in / knowageable about.
[01:29] <mbeierl> dissipate: there are ubuntu images in EC2, I think that was actually where I got it to work somewhat successfully.
[01:29] <reisio> iamweirdie: it's just I don't know, and busy IRCers will sometimes ignore messages addressed to specific people
[01:30] <iamweirdie> ok, sorry, that was my fault. i was using a persistent usb ubuntu and i was installing updates, then i came upon an update error and ran sudo apt-get -f install and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/746506/
[01:31] <blistovmhz> ubnt 11.10 alternate installer fails to write grub back to discs.  mdadm 4d-raid5 with lvm on top.
[01:31] <tron101> im trying to get a .exe file off a disk to run with wine. its telling me it is blocked due to permissions. ive tried to change permissions using chmod but it only returns read only file system. can someone walk me through this, i am a noob btw :)
[01:32] <blistovmhz> grub-install /dev/sd{a..d} - /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Your core.img is unusually large.  It won't fit in the embedding area..
[01:32] <blistovmhz> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume.
[01:32] <blistovmhz> idea's?
[01:32] <reisio> blistovmhz: you using EFI?
[01:34] <jjg> where does ubuntu keep its dhcp lock/session file?  I need to delete it
[01:34] <jjg> nm .. i just did dhclient -r and i think it got rid of it…but if anyone knows i'd be interested to hear
[01:34] <reisio> blistovmhz: ?
[01:35] <blistovmhz> reisio, what's EFI?
[01:35] <alien20501> iamweird: try to run it in force-mode, like dpkg --force-all, sounds like you broke pkg manager, happens sometimes
[01:35] <dhirez> hallo all
[01:35] <alien20501> then try a apt-get --purge
[01:35] <alien20501> apt-get remove --purge <pkg> sorry
[01:36] <dhirez> can i know about your Yahoo messenger id ?
[01:36] <dhirez> just for share about Ubuntu
[01:36] <eamon> who has a gode s&d mw3 class
[01:36] <eamon> good*
[01:36] <reisio> blistovmhz: Apple computer?
[01:36] <blistovmhz> reisio, no.
[01:37] <dhirez> hallo
[01:37] <blistovmhz> reisio, big scary desktop.  had 10.10 installed fine.  my raid has been assembled for years and i've  booted off it for the past 2 years without any problems.  installed 11.10 today on another LV but the grub installation failed with an unknown error.  manually booted into the new installation to run grub-install manually.
[01:38] <reisio> blistovmhz: change FS or anything?
[01:38] <blistovmhz> core.img on my 10.10 installation is 29759 and the new 11.10 installation core.img is 31794
[01:38] <blistovmhz> reisio, no other changes.
[01:38] <reisio> mmm
[01:38] <blistovmhz> just a new grub version.
[01:39] <reisio> well the crappy fix is to use gparted to move your partition beginning farther along
[01:39] <blistovmhz> 31794 should fit in the MBR.
[01:39] <blistovmhz> reisio, yea... holy fuck though.
[01:39] <reisio> blistovmhz: yeah, welcome to GRUB2
[01:39] <blistovmhz> reisio, that's a HUGE move.
[01:39] <blistovmhz> 6TB to shuffle around.
[01:39] <pangolin> blistovmhz: Please no cursing
[01:40] <reisio> blistovmhz: probably take you longer to figure out what all you can remove from the core.img
[01:40] <blistovmhz> reisio, I agree, but why doesn't 3794 fit?  that does not compute.
[01:41] <blistovmhz> sorry, 31794
[01:41] <reisio> because it doesn't
[01:42] <reisio> typical MBR is what... 30k?
[01:42] <blistovmhz> oh... geez.
[01:42] <blistovmhz> i just noticed that a clean 11.10 install pushes the first sector of the first partition to 2048
[01:42] <blistovmhz> grrrr.
[01:42] <alien20501> is there a way to download the entire ubuntu pkg collection and put it offline for later use ? Not talking about the ISO here... I need to fiddle around with pkg combinations and default ubuntu repo are slow today; I need to download often as I'm testing liveusb images combos
[01:42] <reisio> huh
[01:43] <blistovmhz> reisio, i've never used gparted, but I don't want to do this whole thing manually.  is gparted solid?
[01:43] <reisio> alien20501: that's a lot of data
[01:43] <alien20501> really? how much data are we talking here
[01:43] <reisio> blistovmhz: it's the most popular GUI partition manager, bar none
[01:44] <reisio> blistovmhz: I don't know how LVM works though
[01:44] <reisio> if there are provisos
[01:44] <lgc> Hi, can someone refer me to the installation procedure of ssh-server in 11.04?
[01:44] <reisio> lgc: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:44] <blistovmhz> reisio, doesn't look like it knows how to deal with lvm on mdadm
[01:44] <reisio> lgc: and then start/tell to start at boot as desired
[01:44] <blistovmhz> this ain't good
[01:44] <Artemis3> alien20501, i believe apt-mirror can help you with that, if you don't mind to download once some tens of gigs per architecture
[01:44] <lgc> reisio, is that all? No need to generate keys?
[01:44] <three18ti> blistovmhz, gparted is just parted with a GUI; yes it is solid, yes it is the way to go.
[01:45] <reisio> blistovmhz: probably talk to #grub or ##linux
[01:45] <reisio> lgc: not unless you require them
[01:45] <alien20501> it'd be a lot faster than DLing all the time... apt-mirror huh ? gonna look into it thx
[01:45] <reisio> lgc: orinary ssh just uses passwords, keys are nicer, but extra
[01:45] <reisio> ordinary*
[01:45] <lgc> reisio, thanks.
[01:46] <jimw_> anybody installed openstack diablo yet?
[01:46] <Artemis3> alien20501, you could set up a dedicated machine to apt-mirror your lan, in essence your own local mirror... there is also apt-cache-ng
[01:46] <Artemis3> alien20501, sorry, apt-proxy-ng
[01:46] <three18ti> lgc, it is not a requirement to use keys, however, keys are far more secure than passwords.  Passwords can be broken.
[01:46] <alien20501> nice!!!! exactly what I want... does it update the repo from time to time also ?
[01:46] <lgc> three18ti, thanks.
[01:47] <three18ti> lgc, this explains it nicely, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[01:47] <Artemis3> alien20501, apt-proxy-ng works like magic... you set up a machine with lots of space, any package you download will remain in that machine, no matter how many times you request it. You only have to configure apt/synpatic to use a "proxy"
[01:47] <blistovmhz> reisio, thank you sir.  will see what i can do.  probably just chainload it.
[01:47] <airtonix> I'm hoping someone else here has resolved this. >> i have a sdcard i encrypted with full disk encryption in palimpset, however after suspending, then removing the sdcard, then resuming, then re-inserting sdcard, I can not remount the sdcard : Error unlocking device: cryptsetup exited with exit code 239. bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/484429
[01:48] <blistovmhz> Especially as HD prices just doubled and I'm looking at $1200 to replace my discs or do a full backup.
[01:48] <alien20501> do you mean apt-cache-ng ?
[01:48] <rcmaehl> I need help. Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit. Okay, first off nvclock didn't know what my card was so I decided to download the latest drivers from NVidia's website. Now Xorg will not start telling me the nvidia kernel 290.10 doesn not match 280.13 or something. How do I fix this?
[01:48] <alien20501> cuz they say apt-proxy-ng doesn't exist no more
[01:49] <Artemis3> alien20501, oh let me see that package name again
[01:49] <ktiron> Quick question, is xchat a client thats just for ubuntu or is it multi-platform
[01:49] <alien20501> apt-cacher-ng I mean, forgot the "r"
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> ktiron: multi-platform
[01:49] <rcmaehl> ktiron: multi
[01:49] <ktiron> thank you
[01:49] <earlten> okay..  I could really use some help, and insight into a few "why"'s - like why you can't just "reset" a plasmoid. Which leads me to...  I was using the system monitor plasmoid... and I accidentally dragged the temp monitor off it. Now, the temp monitor had been monitoring my CPU temp just fine...  now suddonly, it's empty. When I go in to configure it, I have no available sensors. Could anyone explain this small mystery to me?
[01:50] <alien20501> that's cool... do you know if I need a full proxy server avail or it has it's own stuff builtin ?
[01:50] <Artemis3> alien20501, apt-cacher-ng
[01:50] <boxybrown> anyone use byobu much?
[01:50] <Artemis3> alien20501, no you don't need an actual proxy, it does that by itself, just for apt tho
[01:50] <boxybrown> it started acting weird and i have a question about figuring out whats wrong
[01:50] <alien20501> nice thx Artemis!
[01:51] <Artemis3> alien20501, first time you have to wait for the package to download, second time remains in cache of that machine, can be used by 2 to thousands of machines
[01:51] <alien20501> I wonder about the updating of the repo now... looking through the docs
[01:52] <Artemis3> alien20501, there is no need, since some package get updates anyway, just set it up and keep using it
[01:52] <alien20501> excellent! thx again :)
[01:52] <earlten> I have tried uninstalling the plasmoid using the plasmaokg manager, but it fails..  I've searched where it might have been saving and lost it's settings but failed
[01:52] <rcmaehl> Basically how do I downgrade the nvidia kernel
[01:53] <rcmaehl> so that Xorg can start
[01:53] <alien20501> rcma: just redo the install or try --uninstall
[01:53] <Pauluntu> Anyone know how to get video to work with skype.  Ubuntu when it installed wanted me to take a picture of myself as an icon so I know the camera works, but it doesnt show up when I click test video on skype.
[01:54] <rcmaehl> If I have to I will do a reinstall but I was just wondering if there's a way to fix this WITHOUT doing a complete reinstall
[01:54] <alien20501> usually nvidia drivers will figure out something broken, and say something like "your install was altered since last blah blah..."
[01:55] <alien20501> rcma: it's really basic, it never breaks anything unless you compiled your own libGL shared libraries (then it can be a pain)
[01:55] <alien20501> compiled or linked stuff, etc...
[01:56] <rcmaehl> alien20501: holy heck that worked
[01:56] <alien20501> there u go ;)
[01:56] <dissipate> does anyone know the status of getting an official bitcoin package in ubuntu?
[01:57] <earlten> Can anyone help me with a few questions about plasmoids?
[01:57] <earlten> please?
[01:58] <celthunder> rcmaehl: nvidia's site has old and new versions of there drivers
[02:00] <earlten> ??
[02:00] <pocata> I ask people drown I want to buy a mini MP3 player has some or knows whether they are good
[02:01] <earlten> a "no" from someone would suffice just so as to notify me that I'm even being seen...
[02:01] <aokmanga> hi all
[02:01] <pocata> ?:)
[02:01] <teddie> hi aokmanga
[02:02] <earlten> Can anyone please help me with a few questions about plasmoids?
[02:02] <somsip_> !patience | earlten
[02:02] <earlten> fair enough
[02:03] <celthunder> earlten: why not ask the question so we know if we can answer
[02:03] <earlten> I did earlier, here goes...
[02:04] <hydrozen> was an update released rencently for 11.10 that has to do with nvidia? my graphical env won't start anymore since I installed updates and rebooted
[02:04] <earlten> can you reset a plasmoid? I was using the system monitor plasmoid... and I accidentally dragged the temp monitor off it. Now, the temp monitor had been monitoring my CPU temp just fine...  now suddonly, it's empty. When I go in to configure it, I have no available sensors. Could anyone explain this small mystery to me?
[02:05] <linda> I have a problem with the display going away after a half hour or so, (haven't really timed it, just a guess at the time...).  When I come to the computer after leaving it for a while, it says, "Ubuntu is running in low grpahics mode"  "The following error was encountered.  You may need to update your configuration to solve this.  (EE intel(0):  Failed to set tiling on front buffer:  input / output error"  [OK]
[02:05] <earlten> ie" Where would I reset the plasmoid to an out of the box config, or uninstall/reinstall it..  something of that nature..  I've tried using the plasmapkg manager to no avail
[02:05] <linda> You click on [OK] and get:
[02:05] <linda> "What would you like to do?"
[02:06] <linda> () Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode
[02:06] <linda> () Re-configure grahpics
[02:06] <onryo>  using ubuntu with only base. xfce as the DE, lightdm, Emerald as a windows manager and compiz as a compositor.
 and it it works darn nice. Just that detail will not showing the names of users when I log in with lightdm
[02:06] <linda> () Exit to console login
[02:06] <linda> () Restart X
[02:07] <linda> Anyone know what causes this?
[02:07] <linda> OS=Ubuntu 10.04
[02:07] <aokmanga> I've a question for you. I've a macbook. I was looking to install ubuntu only on it. On the download page of the official ubuntu site i followed the instructions to create an usb stick bootable with ubuntu for mac. The instructions i followed are here: http://nopaste.info/2adf6c7c89.html but i can't boot it. It doesn't recognize the usb stick. Someone knows which is the solution to this problem cd burning excluded? Thank you in advance to
[02:07] <aokmanga> anyone.
[02:07] <linda>  VGA compatible controller:
[02:07] <linda> aAnyuone
 and it it works darn nice. Just that detail will not showing the names of users when I log in with lightdm
[02:07] <reisio> aokmanga: where'd you find these instructions?...
[02:08] <aokmanga> reisio: on the ubuntu official download page, i selected try it on usb stick and there is a step by step instruction selecting usb stick and mac as the operating system you are working on.
[02:08] <linda> aokmanga: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:08] <calimocho> i am heavily affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/877556
[02:09] <calimocho> i want to completely prevent hibernation
[02:09] <onryo> OMG .... is this the special eduction class?
[02:09] <aokmanga> hi linda, thanks for the link. i know unetbootin but it never worked good for me on the mac. anyway, i'll try it again maybe i'll be luckier this time :)
[02:09] <somsip> onre: s/eduction/education ;)
[02:09] <calimocho> if i come out of suspend even with 90% battery i get critical power warning and it hibernates.
[02:10] <calimocho> anyone know how to disable hibernation? in gconf-editor apps/.../powermanager/critical actions is set to none
[02:10] <_schism_> has anyone here  gotten google music to work with 10.04 by any chance?
[02:14] <lgc> What's your opinion of tasksel?
[02:14] <Epsilonultra> test
[02:14] <Epsilonultra> ok
[02:14] <somsip> Epsilonultra: ok
[02:14] <Epsilonultra> why are there 1500 people in #ubuntu
[02:15] <tosh> hello
[02:15] <mina86> hi guys, I want to add a repository to sources but I don't want it to be used in normal "apt-get safe-upgrade" and similar. only when I specifically choose it. is it doable?
[02:15] <linda> Epsilonultra: I really don't know.
[02:15] <teddie> Epsilonultra, because ubuntu is popular
[02:15] <Epsilonultra> err
[02:15] <Epsilonultra> 99% of them are not present
[02:16] <qin> Epsilonultra: Really?
[02:16] <linda> you'd think that out of 1500 people someone would know why a system keeps reverting to "Low Graphics Mode"  :(
[02:16] <Epsilonultra> ???
[02:16] <Epsilonultra> in what client
[02:16] <Epsilonultra> xchat?
[02:16] <xangua> Epsilonultra: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[02:16] <Epsilonultra> whoa upsidedown ?
[02:16] <teddie> it's not that high.. it's about 2% of the users on freenode here
[02:17] <linda> teddie: Not that high?  What other channel has 1500?
[02:17] <pangolin> !ot
[02:17] <teddie> i mean, it's understandable 1 in 50 freenode users would just feel like idling here
[02:18] <teddie> pangolin: noted.
[02:18] <linda> pangolin: Good call,   not that much support going on right now....
[02:18] <Epsilonultra> well, Q= can a windows emulator run windows multiplayer exes
[02:18] <Epsilonultra> ahh!!! stop with the green text
[02:18] <xangua> Epsilonultra: virtualbox
[02:18] <Epsilonultra>  is it on softwarecenter?
[02:19] <tosh> hello can someone help me and tell m if someone know any channel of mucisians? thanks!
[02:19] <xangua> !virtualbox | Epsilonultra
[02:19] <xangua> !alis | tosh
[02:19] <Epsilonultra> noted. I commonly use Wine Windows Program Loader
[02:20] <truth63> hey im new too ubuntu and im having trouble
[02:21] <linda> truth63: Join the club.
[02:21] <Epsilonultra> what do you need help with
[02:21] <linda> truth63: If you ask a question you might get help, but one thing is for sure, if you don't, you wont.
[02:22] <truth63> adding a password to a very large file and getting rid of a certain package
[02:22] <linda> truth63: That is not a question.
[02:23] <truth63> Cryptkeeper is what i need to get rid of
[02:23] <Epsilonultra> how do we hide our ip addresses
[02:24] <xangua> !cloak | Epsilonultra
[02:24] <linda> Epsilonultra: Is that a question?
[02:24] <Epsilonultra> ty
[02:25] <truth63> I have a thing called cryptkeeper and i need help getting rid of it how would i do so?
[02:29] <Epsilonultra> ok now how do i cloak?
[02:29] <Epsilonultra> how do i hide my IP address
[02:29] <truth63> I need help with my app-install it keeps telling me the file does not exist
[02:29] <Epsilonultra> let me take remote control
[02:30] <Epsilonultra> what is your IP
[02:31] <Pici> Epsilonultra: please read the entire factoid.
[02:33] <Epsilonultra> what do you mean
[02:38] <JusticeZero> I've been having freezing issues on this laptop, i'm not sure if there are any good ways to deal with it?
[02:38] <reisio> that all depends
[02:39] <JusticeZero> When it's unplugged, it runs fine for a few minutes, then locks up completely. Only thing to be done is to do a hard shutdown.
[02:40] <JusticeZero> I'm not sure if that bug was ever tracked down.. I know it's known, but.. :p
[02:41] <Epsilonultra> aww my proxy is broken
[02:43] <JusticeZero> ack, need to go - getting a ride home because of the rain.
[02:43] <teddie> toodle pip
[02:45] <Epsilonultra> grrrr
[02:45] <Epsilonultra> why arent my proxies working
[02:45] <truth63> how can i fix not being able to access programs due too File path not found
[02:45] <Epsilonultra> someone help
[02:46] <An-iSociaL> having issues with a touchscreen under ubuntu xorg, its only registering mouse down events and not up events, is there a configuration for this or is there something wrong with the hardware?
[02:46] <Epsilonultra> proxies help
[02:47] <Epsilonultra> someone help me with proxies
[02:47] <truth63> How do i get rid of crypt keeper?
[02:48] <earlten> can you reset a plasmoid? I was using the system monitor plasmoid... and I accidentally dragged the temp monitor off it. Now, the temp monitor had been monitoring my CPU temp just fine...  now suddonly, it's empty. When I go in to configure it, I have no available sensors. Could anyone help me to reset this plasmoid to it's "out of box" values?
[02:51] <truth63> can i get help with this?
[02:51] <lgc> Anyone has had trouble with DNS via dyndns.org?
[02:54] <earlten> lgc: always
[02:54] <lgc> earlten, and how do you solve them?
[02:54] <Epsilonultra> oh come on!!!
[02:55] <kandinski> is it possible to switch between unity and unity2d without exiting the session?
[02:55] <untitled_only> Sup room?
[02:56] <untitled_only> In the terminal
[02:58] <Epsilonultra> Someone tell me how to proxy
[02:58] <Epsilonultra> this place is infested with hackers
[02:58] <untitled_only> Check the forums
[02:59] <Epsilonultra> what forums
[02:59] <pangolin> !details
[03:00] <untitled_only> Ubuntu forums
[03:00] <Epsilonultra> I need help with proxies
[03:00] <Epsilonultra> is ubottu an actual person
[03:00] <truth63> Im runnin 11.10 ubuntu and i cannot use any apps
[03:00] <somsip> Epsilonultra: no, it's a bot
[03:00] <Epsilonultra> hmmm\
[03:00] <An-iSociaL> having issues with a touchscreen under ubuntu xorg, its only registering mouse down events and not up events, is there a configuration for this or is there something wrong with the hardware?
[03:01] <An-iSociaL> ubuntu natty
[03:01] <xangua> !proxy | Epsilonultra
[03:01] <lgc> Some aborted tasksel procedure caused that I can't update. It signals a bunch of errors of the type "404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.183 80]
[03:01] <lgc> Err http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/restricted Packages". What can I do?
[03:01] <Epsilonultra> !cloak
[03:01] <Epsilonultra> ???
[03:01] <xangua> lgc: upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[03:01] <xangua> !eol
[03:01] <pangolin> you also need to actually read the information given to you Epsilonultra
[03:02] <Epsilonultra> i do!!!
[03:02] <pangolin> apparently not
[03:02] <Epsilonultra> i registered this username, looked at the cloak system and it gave me nothing
[03:02] <lgc> xangua, isn't karmic an LTS version?
[03:02] <xangua> lgc: no, it's not
[03:03] <zelozelos> in the compiz settings where do i set the window(s) to where they remember their last location and if minimized or maximized?
[03:03] <fouad659> hello
[03:03] <lgc> xangua, does 10.04 use GNOME?
[03:04] <fouad659> can someone help me with my server
[03:04] <fouad659> with the permissions
[03:04] <xangua> lgc: all ubuntu releases use gnome
[03:04] <An-iSociaL> wow
[03:04] <An-iSociaL> so many issues tonight
[03:04] <An-iSociaL> ill work on my touchscreen myself some more
[03:04] <somsip> fouad659: can you give more details
[03:04] <An-iSociaL> ask again later when its not crazy
[03:05] <fouad659> lol
[03:05] <fouad659> wait me?
[03:05] <fouad659> i think mine is pretty basic
[03:05] <Epsilonultra> any server staff in?
[03:05] <fouad659> but im just new to ubuntu
[03:05] <somsip> fouad659: so give more details
[03:05] <zelozelos> Epsilonultra, maybe theres a server channel
[03:06] <fouad659> ok, i set up a LAMP server on ubuntu 10.04
[03:06] <fouad659> works pretty well
[03:06] <fouad659> but
[03:06] <truth63> Im having seriouse trouble being able to get anything to work period
[03:06] <zelozelos> Epsilonultra, or just state the issue idk
[03:06] <fouad659> whenever i upload something in ftp
[03:06] <fouad659> the permissions are messed up
[03:06] <fouad659> so i need to go in and chmod
[03:06] <lgc> xangua, Really? What about this Unity thing?
[03:06] <xangua> lgc: is a shell
[03:06] <somsip> fouad659: probably ftpd is running as one user and apache2 is running as another, yes?
[03:07] <fouad659> haha, you lost me already
[03:07] <zelozelos> fouad659, what are your permissions to start with, do you have them set to where your files are not shared or anything?
[03:07] <fouad659> i have it in /home/fouad/public_html
[03:08] <fouad659> i updated it in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[03:08] <fouad659> so that the directory is right
[03:08] <somsip> fouad659: what are the perms on that folder, what are the perms on files you upload, what perms do you change them to
[03:08] <zelozelos> ?
[03:08] <wolfric> If you're logged in via ssh to a host, how could you tell the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop?
[03:09] <wolfric> Is there any difference other than what packages are installed by default?
[03:09] <zelozelos> login name?
[03:09] <fouad659> when i upload them
[03:09] <fouad659> they are set to 700
[03:09] <lgc> xangua, Really?
[03:09] <fouad659> so i just chmod -R 755
[03:09] <fouad659> like i saw on some forums
[03:09] <fouad659> which looks right to me
[03:09] <fouad659> im just not sure why it autosets to 700
[03:09] <lgc> xangua, so what's the big deal about it?
[03:09] <somsip> fouad659: the webserver runs as www-data user, so it can't read 700 files. Maybe you need to set the default permissions for uploaded files
[03:10] <somsip> fouad659: what ftp server package are you using?
[03:10] <fouad659> vsftpd
[03:11] <somsip> fouad659: one solution, but I don't like this: http://serverfault.com/questions/214097/how-do-i-set-the-default-group-for-a-vsftpd-users-uploads-ubuntu-10-04
[03:11] <fouad659> alright
[03:12] <fouad659> lemme try it
[03:12] <boxybrown> hey guys
[03:12] <somsip> fouad659: you really need tobe changing a setting in vsftpd.conf to set 'umask' to 022 (I think...)
[03:12] <boxybrown> any idea why launching byobu wont run .bashrc
[03:12] <boxybrown> but launching screen by itself will?
[03:12] <somsip> fouad659: Looks better - http://www.basicconfig.com/linux-servers/install-configure-vsftpd-ubuntu
[03:13] <fouad659> still doesnt work
[03:13] <fouad659> oh ok
[03:13] <fouad659> ill try that one
[03:13] <somsip> fouad659: the bit about local_umask - you will need to restart vsftpd after changing the conf file
[03:14] <Epsilonultra> the /trace command should be restricted
[03:14] <fouad659> ok
[03:15] <Epsilonultra> cuz srsly, I can figure out what computer, the port, ISP, Region, State, and all
[03:15] <Epsilonultra> of almost everyone
[03:15] <Epsilonultra> try tracing me
[03:17] <yanjun> hi!
[03:17] <fouad659> huzzah!
[03:17] <somsip> fouad659: result?
[03:17] <fouad659> somsip: youre the man
[03:17] <fouad659> it works
[03:17] <somsip> fouad659: cool - glad to help
[03:18] <fouad659> or woman* whichever you are
[03:18] <fouad659> but you're awesome
[03:18] <fouad659> :)
[03:18] <An-iSociaL> can i get some awesome over here
[03:18] <somsip> fouad659: you're welcome
[03:18] <Epsilonultra> ???
[03:18] <fouad659> alright cya guys
[03:18] <fouad659> back to the actual code :P
[03:20] <lgc> Will upgrading mess with my /home?
[03:20] <pangolin> no
[03:20] <lgc> thanks, pangolin.
[03:21] <maestrojed> been building an ubuntu box to be a media center and controlled by my Android phone. 2 pretty specific things but Ive learned ticks & I know there are more to learn. Do you think a site/forum about this would get any interest? Would you be interested? Do you use Ubuntu in this fashion?
[03:22] <An-iSociaL> maestrojed, xbmc already does that
[03:22] <Linuxphreak> not sure if ubuntu is using latest gnome. but if it is will I have problem installing it on computer that doesn't support hardware acceleration?
[03:23] <maestrojed> An-iSociaL sure, and I use XBMC, but there is sooo much more to do. XBMC would be a thread. But its not the only thing to think about
[03:23] <wolfric> where would i look for a list of vulnerabilities on a system running a certain outdated version of ubuntu. (debsecan is useless)
[03:23] <xangua> Linuxphreak: there are unity-2d and gnome-fallback mode for no hardware acceleration
[03:24] <Linuxphreak> xangua: cool deal
[03:24] <maestrojed> An-iSociaL and I guess that is kinda my point. Well can you do or is interesting to do?
[03:24] <maestrojed> but I think it is too specific
[03:25] <calvados> Is there a way to upgrade pear to 1.9.4 on ubuntu 11.10 ? , pear upgrade pear aint working
[03:25] <mercvrivs> this is a test
[03:25] <mercvrivs> ok
[03:25] <robin0800> Linuxphreak: I would use the alternate cd as the live cd may not work with no hardware acceleration
[03:27] <Pauluntu> is pogo only for windows i can't join any games in ubuntu
[03:27] <Linuxphreak> I prefer to use the alternate installer. I find that I have more flexibility woth it
[03:27] <somsip> calvados: 1.9.2 here and I upgraded the other day, so maybe package is only at that version
[03:27] <somsip> mercvrivs: ok
[03:28] <geek07> anyone have experience with the ATI tradeon HD4650?
[03:29] <Linuxphreak> most likely will be installing via netboot images using pxe on my fedora server
[03:31] <geek07> i have installed on a amd 3200 w 3 gb and the screen is terrible
[03:31] <earlten> INFESTED WITH HACKERS RAWR
[03:32] <earlten> lol
[03:32] <lgc> How can I find out which broken packages are in my system?
[03:32] <geek07> and in debian 6 it doesn't work aqt all
[03:32] <calvados> somsip, actually PHPUnit (latest) required 1.9.4
[03:33] <xangua> lgc: karmic is no longer supported, like i said before
[03:33] <somsip> calvados: I install PHPUnit yesterday with no problems <shrugs> Not sure what version though
[03:34] <truth63> how do i fix not having access to any files
[03:36] <aeon-ltd> truth63: explain more
[03:36] <truth63> aeon-ltd i cant get anything to work at all
[03:36] <maestrojed> anyone know of a app that would let you load a url as your desktop wallpaper?
[03:36] <lgc> xangua, regardless of that, the command is probably the same.
[03:37] <truth63> aeon-ltd It happened after I updated earlier
[03:37] <aeon-ltd> truth63: i still don't understand
[03:37] <truth63> aeon-ltd when i try to use an app or program nothing happens
[03:37] <xangua> lgc: what part of no longer supported don't you get¿ please upgrade to a supported version
[03:38] <aeon-ltd> truth63: even after restarting?
[03:38] <truth63> aeon-ltd thats when it started
[03:39] <aeon-ltd> truth63: what does work though?
[03:39] <yagoo> i need a hardware answer to this-- anyone knows if i lose performance or grounding if i use molex-4->sata? (sata is 5 cords.. so i'd like to know-- dumb power unit only has 1 sata powerplug)
[03:39] <yagoo> (powerplug)
[03:40] <truth63> aeon-ltd  im not a 100% sure im new to this os
[03:41] <lgc> xangua, what part of "regardless of the distribution the command might be the same" don't you understand?
[03:41] <truth63> aeon-ltdsimple things like system settings and system updater
[03:41] <aeon-ltd> truth63: you can login at least?
[03:41] <truth63> aeon-ltd im scared to log out
[03:41] <phunyguy> yagoo, try #hardware
[03:42] <aeon-ltd> truth63: right now it sounds like either packages are corrupt - so no launch or the links to the applications are wrong/corrupt
[03:42] <aeon-ltd> truth63: can you open a terminal?
[03:42] <truth63> aeon-ltd yes
[03:42] <aeon-ltd> try launch firefox from there
[03:42] <truth63> aeon-ltd but i have no idea what to do with it
[03:42] <truth63> aeon-ltd that works
[03:42] <aeon-ltd> truth63: just type 'firefox'
[03:43] <truth63> aeon-ltd ok
[03:43] <aeon-ltd> truth63: keep trying with other applications that don't work fom menus dock etc
[03:43] <aeon-ltd> *from
[03:45] <truth63> aeon-ltd ot much is working
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> truth63: try to update again
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> truth63: 'sudo apt-get update' from terminal
[03:46] <truth63> aeon-ltd im trying system testing and it froze when trying to view report
[03:47] <alsoeric> what is the best linux equivalent to winscp for navigating and copying files
[03:47] <xangua> !ftp | alsoeric
[03:48] <tron101> ive tried to run a program but nothing happens, how do i get a log of whats happening?
[03:48] <truth63> aeon-ltd it read package list and is done
[03:48] <aeon-ltd> tron101: running it in terminal
[03:49] <aeon-ltd> truth63: now 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:49] <tron101> run the program in terminal?
[03:49] <aeon-ltd> tron101: yes then the log will appear in the terminal
[03:49] <truth63>  nothing done
[03:49] <alsoeric> wanted scp or sftp not ftp
[03:50] <truth63> aeon-ltd nothing to install
[03:52] <aeon-ltd> truth63: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:53] <truth63> aeon-ltd nothing done
[03:54] <truth63> aeon-ltd can i send u screen shot?
[03:54] <aeon-ltd> ok
[03:55] <aeon-ltd> truth63: post it on imageshack or a imagebin site
[03:55] <aeon-ltd> truth63: http://imageshack.us/
[03:57] <alsoeric> better solution to my Q is secpanel
[03:57] <alsoeric> might want to add it to the robot answer
[03:57] <somsip> alsoeric: Filezilla supports SFTP
[03:57] <truth63> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/screenshotat20111122215.png/
[03:58] <alsoeric> yes it does adn it may also work bit secpanel hints at scratching an itch I was ignoring
[03:58] <alsoeric> :-)
[03:58] <alsoeric> I'm also having a problem with flash and hulu
[03:59] <alsoeric> it lock up my display
[03:59] <truth63> aeon-ltd this is crazy
[03:59] <camilleqco> i recently did the update and now i can't get past the startup screen
[04:00] <camilleqco> any ideas what i can do?
[04:00] <camilleqco> i am running a lenovo thinkpad T420
[04:00] <alsoeric> use the rescue boot
[04:00] <Untitled> sup room
[04:00] <alsoeric> from the grub prompt
[04:00] <camilleqco> alsoeric, how do i  do that? do i need a disk?
[04:00] <Pauluntu> can only play on pogo?  It wont work for me keeps crashing
[04:01] <camilleqco> alsoeric,  i'll see if i can figure that out
[04:01] <alsoeric> camilleqco, are single boot or multi-boot?
[04:01] <Untitled> B-)
[04:01] <camilleqco> alsoeric, single boot
[04:02] <alsoeric> grub show up if you hit esc I believe
[04:03] <Untitled_only> sup room
[04:04] <camilleqco> alsoeric, should i hit esc at startup or at ubuntu startup screen? just did it on startup screen to no effect. will try at startup now...
[04:05] <camilleqco> alsoeric, :/ again nothing
[04:05] <alsoeric> start at bios screen. you want the char at the start  of grub
[04:05] <camilleqco> alsoeric, ok at biot
[04:06] <camilleqco> bios
[04:07] <Untitled_only> WELCOME TO THE UBUNUTU IRC CHANNEL
[04:07] <Untitled_only> B-)
[04:07] <Jordan_U> camilleqco: Hold shift during boot.
[04:08] <camilleqco> alsoeric, i switched to diagnostics boot mode.. i am back at the frozen ubuntu start up screen
[04:08] <Pauluntu> is anyone able to get pogo games to run?
[04:08] <camilleqco> Jordan_U, i get to bios, not sure what to select there to at least get to terminal
[04:10] <maestrojed> Pauluntu one sec and I will try. I have never tried on my linux box
[04:10] <camilleqco> Jordan_U, i get to bios, not sure what to select there to at least get to terminal alsoeric
[04:10] <sabayonweb9506> I'm trying to change the resolution from the cli. xrandr -d :0 -s 4 gives me "failed to change screen configuration!". Any help?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> camilleqco: Hold shift to get to the grub menu. From there select the recovery mode entry.
[04:15] <camilleqco> Jordan_U, hmm it said something about grub and then it just came to this screen again
[04:16] <truth63> im having problems with file paths and stuff not launching
[04:17] <atdiehm_lappy> if I want to reformat a netbook into ubuntu... can I do that by starting with the windows install? or do I have to get the usb image onto a drive....
[04:18] <truth63> I cant get any apps to work
[04:19] <maestrojed> Pauluntu It seems neither FF nor Chrome will run a java applet. That is news to me but then again I have never tried. But that means no pogo :(
[04:20] <truth63> apparently my file paths are incomplete
[04:22] <Pauluntu> mastrojed, darn i guess i have to go back to windows i mean I can handle one or two setbacks you know but linux is forcing me to letgo of every little thing i use and start over like i never touched a computer before
[04:24] <xangua> maestrojed: Pauluntu it will run a java applet if you have sun/oracle java and the browser plugin instaled
[04:24] <maestrojed> Pauluntu You still there, I got it working
[04:24] <Pauluntu> maestrojed, how you get it working
[04:24] <Pauluntu> i have openjdk6 and icetea installed
[04:26] <maestrojed> Pauluntu well I don't know what that stuff is, I am kinda an Ubuntu n00b. But. I updated my java and java plugin with "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin"
[04:26] <maestrojed> Then used FF
[04:26] <maestrojed> FireFox
[04:26] <maestrojed> It still didn't work in chrome
[04:27] <xangua> Pauluntu: maestrojed there is no oracle/sun jave on oneiric official repositories, if you want it there is a ppa for 6 and manual instructions for 7 on webupd8 blog
[04:27] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[04:27] <maestrojed> Also I am FireFox8 which isn't the version that ubuntu defaults to. It defaults to 3.6. I have not test that.
[04:27] <maestrojed> xangua okay, I just did that, and it worked.
[04:28] <xangua> ypu just did it in 30 seconds¿
[04:28] <maestrojed> I updated java with the command I pasted above. Yes. just now,
[04:29] <camilleqco> wow, i am having horrible ubuntu frustrations
[04:29] <camilleqco> gonna put a note up in forums and then go light a candle
[04:29] <maestrojed> Pogo.com's java applets were not working in Firefox or Chrome. I ran that. And they started working in FireFox
[04:29] <camilleqco> brand new lenovo thinkpad. geez geez
[04:29] <rypervenche> maestrojed: I've never gotten Java to work properly in chromium.
[04:29] <Pauluntu> kk i'm trying it now :P why the hell did ubuntu get rid of good working java
[04:30] <Pauluntu> i swear linux is going backwards instead of fowards
[04:30] <rypervenche> Pauluntu: Linux isn't going backward, Ubuntu is ~_^
[04:30] <Pauluntu> lol yeah maybe your right rypervenche
[04:30] <maestrojed> No one has ever been able to explain to me why ubuntu defaults to FireFox 3.6. They just yell to at me "That is current!"
[04:30] <rypervenche> Pauluntu: Oh, I just read above. OpenJDK works perfectly fine. Why use Sun Java?
[04:32] <zdc> Friends, who know how to set the window size and position when the program starts
[04:32] <rypervenche> maestrojed: because Ubuntu doesn't use the latest versions of packages. They take it from Debian which is meant for stability.
[04:33] <maestrojed> rypervenche ok, but 3.6!!!
[04:33] <qin> zdc: wmctrl or devilspie, gods know how it works with unity and new gnome
[04:33] <truth63> Is anyone else having trouble wuth the GUI
[04:33] <User916> Try This Cool Game : http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4ecc7386cc675665304971
[04:33] <rypervenche> maestrojed: It's stable.
[04:33] <maestrojed> rypervenche Pauluntu  is trying to use Pogo.com which is a game site. All the games are java applets run through your browser.
[04:34] <User916> Try This Cool Game : http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4ecc7386cc675665304971
[04:34] <rypervenche> maestrojed: So use a PPA for a newer version of Firefox.
[04:34] <maestrojed> rypervenche I think they need to loosen their definition of stable then. The later versions of FF run fine in linux. and 3.6 is really old.
[04:35] <gast2root> my xvidcap stopped recording on ocelot, mpeg movie freezes, any clue?
[04:36] <rypervenche> maestrojed: No, not necessarily. Maybe you need to change your definition of "distribution that I want to use" :P
[04:36] <maestrojed> rypervenche I do, but I feel stuff like that is what holds back Ubuntu. An average user won't know how to do that and will be stuck using some old crap because of a philosophy debate on stability
[04:36] <zdc> qin: xiexie,Difficult to use, especially in the unity and nome3
[04:36] <rypervenche> maestrojed: easy fix for that
[04:37] <maestrojed> I am fine, I can switch repos and stuff. But I do have a love for the project and hate to see stupid stuff like that.
[04:37] <camilleqco> maestrojed, i was just feeling the same way.
[04:37] <camilleqco> i am waving the FLOSS flag and then i encounter these programs and i cant in good conscious tell people to just dunmp their trusty windows
[04:37] <zdc> qin: Is it only kde can do
[04:38] <Untitled_only> windows sucks
[04:38] <camilleqco> i hate windows but there is something to be said for not having to bang your head against the wall for every little thing
[04:38] <blackeyed> plz somebody can say me how can i start my launcher in 11.10??
[04:38] <ejv> how can i ask bash for a list of directories whose size is less than 1 megabyte?
[04:39] <Untitled_only> ls -a -l
[04:39] <maestrojed> camilleqco and some of its because of attitude not capability and that sucks
[04:39] <Pici> ejv: directories don't have a size. do you mean the sum of their contents? (probably)
[04:40] <ejv> pici of course
[04:40] <Pici> ejv: a combination of sort and du will give you want you want.
[04:40] <blackeyed> my launcher desapears, someone can say me how can i restart the unity plugin?
[04:40] <ejv> i was hoping someone would do the heavy lifting for me
[04:40] <ejv> and magically spit a command at me :)
[04:41] <Untitled_only> :-!  nope
[04:41] <blackeyed> how can i re-start the unity plugin?
[04:41] <blackeyed> some body helps me
[04:41] <gast2root> whats a good package to record specific desktop area into mpeg movie?
[04:41] <Pici> ejv: find can't easily find the sum of the contents of a path. using something like: du /some/path/ --max-depth=1 -h | sort -h   will get you closer to what you want.
[04:42] <xangua> blackeyed: unity --reset
[04:42] <blackeyed> doesnt work..
[04:42] <blackeyed> xangua doesnt work
[04:42] <xangua> blackeyed: if your launcher doesn't apper, you sure moved something on compiz conf, did you install compiz setting manager¿
[04:43] <blackeyed> yeah thats it
[04:43] <xangua> blackeyed: if yes, open it, search the Unity pluign and enable it
[04:43] <ejv> hmph!
[04:43]  * ejv throws a chair
[04:43] <blackeyed> how can i open it?
[04:43] <xangua> blackeyed: run ccsm from terminal
[04:44] <druiz> hello room
[04:44] <blackeyed> xangua thank u very much!
[04:44] <camilleqco> hi druiz
[04:44] <druiz> hello camille
[04:44] <druiz> where are you from?
[04:45] <Pici> !ot | druiz
[04:45] <ejv> Pici: du -m . | perl -ne '@l = split();print "@l\n" if $l[0]<=1' | grep "1\ ./"
[04:45] <ejv> voila ;)
[04:45] <Pici> ejv: sure, that works too ;)
[04:46] <ejv> perl saves me arse yet again
[04:46] <ejv> yea creates a boolean identifier, it's a mess tho, grep was mighty handy
[04:48] <Pauluntu> the real java works wonderfully on pogo no problems, that openjdk is pure garbage
[04:50] <dhika> hi all
[04:51] <Untitled_only> hey
[04:51] <tensorpudding> Pauluntu, just so you know, "real java" is no longer available under a license that allows ubuntu to distribute it
[04:51] <tensorpudding> also oracle is making openjdk 7 the reference implementation for java 7
[04:51] <J_C> Too bad Oracle bought Sun and changed almost everything
[04:52] <J_C> good to know
[05:00] <mcored> do u guys know how to show binary units system wide e.g. KiB, MiB etc?
[05:01] <J_C> tough question, what is it you want to show?
[05:02] <reisio> mcored: with what verson of Ubuntu
[05:02] <mcored> latest version reisio 11.10
[05:02] <reisio> just for GNOME/Unity, or... system _wide_?
[05:02] <mcored> system wide
[05:02] <reisio> I've not heard of a solution for that
[05:02] <reisio> it'd be nice, though, wouldn't it
[05:02] <J_C> or within a specific commad?
[05:03] <reisio> every app uses its own preference: binary or decimal
[05:03] <J_C> and some can be changed with switches, like df -h for example
[05:03] <reisio> the only sane way to make it configurable system wide would be to make a library and pressure every single app to use it
[05:03] <reisio> but that isn't particularly sane :p
[05:03] <reisio> the saner option would be to get the standards bodies to invent a new name for decimal names
[05:04] <OldschoolVgamer> Hello everyone
[05:04] <J_C> and sometimes not very useful :)
[05:04] <reisio> instead of trying to get people to pretend GB isn't a binary name
[05:04] <reisio> OldschoolVgamer: hiyo
[05:04] <mcored> yeah i can see ubuntu shows file sizes in decimal
[05:04] <reisio> does it?
[05:04] <OldschoolVgamer> I'm having a little bit of trouble connecting to the internet on Ubuntu
[05:04] <reisio> you compared the byte size?
[05:05] <J_C> OldschoolVgamer:  in what way?
[05:05] <mcored> yes i did reisio see here pls http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8673/screenshotglc.png
[05:05] <OldschoolVgamer> Well it's my wireless connection
[05:05] <mcored> so actually ubuntu is displaying the value and the unit correctly
[05:06] <J_C> is your wireless card supported?
[05:06] <OldschoolVgamer> It's from a company called Trendnet
[05:06] <reisio> mcored: fun
[05:06] <mcored> only if i could show 223.1 GB in that screenshot as 212.7 GiB instead reisio :)
[05:06]  * reisio can maths
[05:06] <reisio> would be a fun project
[05:07] <reisio> considered it myself
[05:07] <J_C> there is a hrdware support page, I believe, at Ubuntu, but trendnet is fairly common and probably supported
[05:07] <OldschoolVgamer> I've been trying for hours to get this damn adapter to work, but I'm lost
[05:07] <mcored> the other problem i have is having to disable touchpad everytime i reboot
[05:07] <julian> Mount google chromium, entering this website in China. trend.eeff.com not let me view language correctly, someone could help me? funds or need to install?
[05:07] <J_C> have you tried to look at the dmesg log to see if it is even recognized?
[05:08] <zdc> Friends, who know how to set the window size and position when the program starts
[05:08] <mcored> i did xinput set-prop 15 "Device Enabled" 0
[05:08] <mcored> i have to do that everytime i reboot
[05:08] <OldschoolVgamer> J_C do you mean the hardware support page at Trendnet itself?
[05:09] <J_C> No, I believe Ubuntu has a hrdware supported page
[05:09] <OldschoolVgamer> Be this sounding stupid, but I don't know where that page is
[05:09] <OldschoolVgamer> I've only started using it
[05:09] <Untitled_only> check the forums
[05:10] <J_C> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsTrendNet
[05:11] <J_C> but you could start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:12] <OldschoolVgamer> The model number doesn't match though
[05:12] <J_C> OldschoolVgamer:  And forums will give you answers. Also, a simple google search like "Trendnet + Ubuntu"
[05:12] <J_C> or "Trendnet wireless ethernet + Ubuntu", etc.
[05:14] <Untitled_only> -_-
[05:14] <J_C> I dn't have a trendnet card, so it's tough for me to give you a direct answer, but tools like dmesg (from the command line) and pipe that through less will let you scroll through the boot process "dmeg | less" from a terminal. Also look at lsmod command to see what modules are loaded and see if you recognize a possible trendnet module
[05:15] <Untitled_only> sup darkstar999
[05:17] <Untitled_only> B-)
[05:19] <Untitled> B-)
[05:20] <J_C> OldschoolVgamer:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTrendnet
[05:20] <OldschoolVgamer> My model number isn't listed though
[05:21] <OldschoolVgamer> TEW-684UB
[05:21] <J_C> Have you tried to do a google search on that model number + linux on Google?
[05:21] <himcesjf> Hello! What is rtkit-daemon? I see it to be running to call chroot, drop priveleges, limit resources
[05:22] <OldschoolVgamer> Oh J_C!  MANY times! lol
[05:22] <mrpink57> anyone use openurl in irssi?  keep getting screen: command not found trying to load a url.
[05:23] <reisio> mrpink57: you might need to export BROWSER
[05:23] <reisio> or something like that
[05:23] <reisio> #irssi would know
[05:23] <reisio> or #{insertterminalnamehere}
[05:24] <theking5765> I have a question about multiboot
[05:25] <theking5765> multiboot from GPT
[05:25] <theking5765> guid whatever
[05:25] <mrpink57> reisio: I'm not sure what you mean by export BROWSER?  and are you suggesting to ask in the irssi channel?
[05:25] <reisio> theking5765: still waiting for a question
[05:25] <theking5765> I am using the Ubuntu GRUB, but
[05:25] <theking5765> can't get debian to load
[05:26] <theking5765> I'm a linux noob
[05:26] <reisio> mrpink57: BROWSER, the environmental variable
[05:26] <reisio> mrpink57: echo 'export BROWSER=firefox' >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc && irssi
[05:27] <mrpink57> reisio: I am using urxvt I added urxvt*urllauncher: Google-chrome (got this from xprop)
[05:27] <reisio> added where
[05:28] <mrpink57> to Xdefaults
[05:28] <reisio> okay
[05:28] <backtrack> hello
[05:28] <reisio> you need to make sure 'Google-chrome' is actually the executable for your Chrome install
[05:28] <Untitled_only> hey
[05:28] <reisio> dpkg -L chromeorwhatever | grep bin
[05:28] <reisio> mrpink57: you also need to run xrdb ~/.Xdefaults, or restart X
[05:28] <J_C> OldschoolVgamer: I just found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.rt2x00.user/6  Apparently there are some people looking at this but I guess it isn't fully supported yet.
[05:28] <mrpink57> reisio: that is why I used xprop I launched it then clicked.
[05:28] <reisio> mrpink57: finally, occasionally the case of those preferences matter, mine is urxvt.urlLauncher:firefox, not urllauncher
[05:29] <mrpink57> reisio: mine is setup the same I just did not bother to capitalize here what is actual captial
[05:29] <reisio> k
[05:29] <J_C> Wireless USB is pretty cheap nowadays, until it works I would jst order one that is known to work
[05:29] <reisio> should work
[05:30] <reisio> mrpink57: you know it's the middle button to open them, right?
[05:30] <OldschoolVgamer> I've been able to use the internet in Ubuntu with my old connection, no problem
[05:30] <reisio> you might need urxvt.perl-ext-common:default,matcher also
[05:30] <OldschoolVgamer> It's just this new one
[05:31] <J_C> OldschoolVgamer:  Once someone starts actively going at it, usually the problem is solved fairly quickly
[05:32] <J_C> I would bet the issue is fixed within a month or two
[05:32] <J_C> based on the thread I jst read
[05:33] <backtrack> geohott wanna be
[05:33] <J_C> The chip is supported, apparently t's a matter of the usb interface itself
[05:33] <Untitled_only> backtrack this is a ubuntu help channel... stop trolling
[05:34] <spotter> what's this hosts.ac file?
[05:35] <spotter> when did it change that modifcations to /etc/hosts weren't permanent and one had to edit /etc/hosts.ac (or so it seems at least)
[05:36] <riff> how do you burn a disc in ubuntu?
[05:37] <spotter> it's cisco anyconnect
[05:37] <spotter> stupid cisco
[05:37] <xangua> riff with Brasero
[05:37] <admin1> use brasero disk burner
[05:37] <mrpink57> reisi: well I verified that it is actually google-chrome but no luck it just does openurl 1sh: screen: then unknown command
[05:38] <mrpink57> tried irssi chat but no one is active really
[05:38] <riff> can it burn images?
[05:38] <soreau> riff: yes or you can use wodim from cli
[05:38] <super> yes
[05:39] <riff> thanks
[05:39] <admin1> no problem
[05:39] <super> how do i setup gnome-radio ??
[05:40] <super> any ideas ?
[05:40] <J_C> brasero or K3b… personally I preerK3b as an all-round cd dvd burner
[05:40] <J_C> preer = prefer
[05:40] <soreau> super: Use rhythmbox
[05:40] <super> thanks ... lets me see that ...
[05:41] <admin1> brasero plugin's make it enjoyable
[05:41] <reisio> k3b is pretty great
[05:41] <reisio> particularly in KDE
[05:41] <J_C> rock-solid
[05:41] <reisio> you basically just use it from the actions context menu option
[05:41] <J_C> in both gnome and KDE
[05:42] <reisio> I use cdrecord/cdrkit/wodim and growisofs, though
[05:42] <reisio> J_C: coo
[05:42] <Starminn> What is the channel for WINE?
[05:42] <admin1> i think #wine
[05:42] <soreau> super: You might have to install rhythmbox-radio-browser and rhythmbox-plugins first
[05:42] <Starminn> admin1, That's what I thought. invite-only?
[05:43] <soreau> Starminn: winehq
[05:43] <admin1> yes, you need to get a key
[05:43] <pythonirc101> I would like my ubuntu box to automatically login at boot and start the GUI (gnome). How can i do this? My current runlevel is 2
[05:43] <Starminn> soreau, Aha!
[05:43] <super> thanks sorean ... i got them all already .. i didn't knew it got a radio too in it ....
[05:43] <jpfiset> Has anyone run into this problem? I am running 11.04 and the update-manager used to offer to upgrade to 11.10 for a while. Now that I am ready to go, the upgrade button is gone. All is up-to-date with apt-get update/dist-upgrade. Any idea?
[05:43] <super> im playing the radio now .. :D
[05:44] <admin1> you may need to refresh your software
[05:44] <J_C> super: 	I run it through my stereo system, sounds great w/the right sound card
[05:44] <MoLoot> I'm remoting to server from different locations using xrdp.  How do/where do I find the right info to use same XFCE desktop?
[05:45] <super> yeps .. I_C it surely does ..... and i really like radio ...
[05:45] <J_C> MoLoot:  Is XFCE installed on the server you are remoting ito?
[05:45] <soreau> jpfiset: Try software-properties-gtk and tell it to check for new release
[05:45] <RavenTrigun> I have a question I am Have a quick question I am about to install Ubuntu onto a Hard Drive and I was wondering is it possible to install Windows 7 on my first hard drive and Ubuntu on the 2nd and Encrypt Both of them using TruCrypt and Encrypt the Bootloader?
[05:45] <MoLoot> J_C: Yes.
[05:45] <super> is there any way i can record the songs playing through radio ??
[05:45] <admin1> yes
[05:46] <super> virtual audio cable ??
[05:46] <super> like in windows
[05:46] <MoLoot> J_C: It's a dedicated server that I have on the net.  I am doing some work @ home, and some while in the office.  The desktop always is different, and I want to use the same workspace regardless where I login from.
[05:46] <super> there need to be sumthing like that
[05:46] <J_C> I'm not sure what distro you are running, but there should be some sort of "desktop-switcher" or preference setting
[05:46] <soreau> super: You could just use sound recorder
[05:46] <MoLoot> J_C: Ubuntu -
[05:47] <reisio> super: talking about an internet audio stream?
[05:47] <super> okay .. thanks soreau will give it a shot ...
[05:47] <super> yes ... reisio....
[05:47] <reisio> super: VLC can
[05:47] <reisio> or mplayer -dumpstream URI -dumpfile foo
[05:47] <J_C> I do not have an Ubuntu server running right now here, but at work on the LTS server there is a desktop switcher app
[05:47] <jpfiset> soreau: Thanks, I already checked that. Software sources are set to pick up new releases. I have rebooted multiple times and re-run the command line apt-get as well. Nothing is bringing the upgrade button.
[05:47] <reisio> or mplayer -playlist -dumpstream URI -dumpfile foo (-playlist sometimes needed)
[05:48] <super> can vlc record radio streaming ??
[05:48] <reisio> there's also rtmpdump for more complex nonsense
[05:48] <reisio> super: didn't I just say that...
[05:48] <admin1> yes
[05:48] <soreau> jpfiset: maybe try running the upgrade manager with -d or check the options
[05:48] <super> ohhhh.... thanks you saved my day ...
[05:48] <OldschoolVgamer> What kind of browser do you guys use?
[05:49] <reisio> the kind that's a UA
[05:49] <admin1> chromium web browser/ firefox
[05:49] <digirak> I have a star trek sound theme installed
[05:49] <digirak> that does not kick in
[05:49] <RavenTrigun> Question: I am trying to install Ubunt and Windows 7 on two different hard drives and encrypt the bootloader using the program TrueCrypt would anyone know how to do that?
[05:49] <digirak> any ideas why?
[05:49] <zykotick9> super, give soreau's suggestion a try first - but i don't think it will work out of the box.  Pulse is capable of recording from anything it's outputting though, see this slightly outdated guide at http://blog.fulsolabs.com/?p=994 audacity (or perhaps even soundrecorder) should work after the pulse adjustment(s)
[05:49] <soreau> jpfiset: update-manager --dist-upgrade
[05:49] <J_C> I use firefox and occasionally  Opera
[05:50] <jpfiset> soreau: Thanks. That did it.
[05:50] <MoLoot> J_C: Thanks for your input :)
[05:51] <J_C> RavenTrigun: I believe there is a hoot at the TrueCrypt site for what you want to do
[05:51] <soreau> RavenTrigun: Why would you want to encrypt your boot loader?
[05:51] <J_C> hoot=howto
[05:51] <Besogon> Peole! Need help in joining domain with SAMBA
[05:51] <Besogon> people*
[05:51] <soreau> ! samba | Besogon
[05:53] <J_C> The advantage of encrypting the bootloader is that you have "plausible deniability" if you want to hide an operating system
[05:53] <RavenTrigun> I find it easier for me personally it is just another login I have brothers who know computers and encrypting gets them to take the hint and leave my computer alone a simple "windows" password is a joke Ophcrack can hit rainbow tables like they are nothing. It also gives them zero access to pulling up any terminal to get in
[05:53] <J_C> TrueCrypt has documentation on their site to do this
[05:54] <soreau> RavenTrigun: Just set a bios password and be done with it
[05:54] <Besogon> soreau: Ubuntu help pages not notice about joining a domain but only about how to become a PDC
[05:54] <soreau> bios/boot
[05:54] <RavenTrigun> ^What J_C said. I believe I remember reading a install though that TrueCrypt doesn't support encrypting the bootloader on Ubuntu systems as Ubuntu has it's own bootloader protocols.
[05:54] <lauratika> i have a question rigarding ubnutu one... my music folder is sync with the cloud and by mistake i delete from my pc a lot of music files how can i tell one to sync with my pc to get all those files are in the cloud directly to my pc again?
[05:54] <soreau> RavenTrigun: wouldnt setting a boot password be easier?
[05:55] <RavenTrigun> Soreau->Flashing the bios by taking out the battery and putting it back in or moving the jumper pin can reset the password on the bios
[05:55] <soreau> well then
[05:55] <J_C> I believe they have updated that. I was just on their site last week reading all their docs because we may have to start using it at work
[05:55] <pythonirc101>  I would like my ubuntu box to automatically login at boot and start the GUI (gnome). How can i do this? My current runlevel is 2
[05:56] <Besogon> soreau: Do you know something about the theme? I issued "wbinfo -D vscc" and got "Active Directory: yes".... It should be a domain! What does it mean?
[05:56] <RavenTrigun> Good I wish they would support tokens at boot or keys but I will check it out.
[05:56] <Besogon> #samba chanell is silent
[05:56] <reisio> not sure what the process would be
[05:56] <admin1> check the samba forums
[05:56] <reisio> ordinarily if you get physical access you can overwrite a bootloader
[05:56] <J_C> pythonirc101: I believe the Ubuntu forums have the answer to your question. I know I don't remember offhand 'cause I never do that
[05:56] <soreau> RavenTrigun: I guess if they wanted to, they could circumvent the bios/boot password, boot a live session and nuke your boot loader altogether then *shrug*
[05:56] <StepNjump> Good night reisio and others out there
[05:57] <reisio> if you just want to hide the fact that you have a second OS, put the bootloader on the 2nd device or partition and don't list it in the boot loader
[05:57] <reisio> StepNjump: night
[05:57] <soreau> Besogon: No idea, sorry
[05:57] <lauratika> is there ubuntu one channel?
[05:57] <admin1> try #ubuntu-one
[05:58] <soreau> RavenTrigun: On my system, even removing bios battery wont reset the boot password of bios
[05:58] <spacebug-> #ubuntuone
[05:59] <admin1> same thing, it will transfer you to the ubuntu one channel
[05:59] <RavenTrigun> Well my bios company found that people set the passwords and forgot the passwords so they made that little backdoor
[06:00] <admin1> isn't that little backdoor great... B-)
[06:00] <Jordan_U> RavenTrigun: It's impossible to to fully encrypt any bootloader.
[06:01] <soreau> heh
[06:01] <reisio> RavenTrigun: wouldn't matter, typically you can reset the password with physical access
[06:01] <Jordan_U> RavenTrigun: Why do you care if /boot/, or even everything but /home/you/ is unencrypted?
[06:02] <reisio> Jordan_U: a common vector is replacing the bootloader with a trojan
[06:02] <reisio> boot up the system: system no longer secure
[06:02] <Jordan_U> reisio: Encrypting /boot/ does nothing to prevent that.
[06:02] <reisio> indeed, said that above
[06:02] <admin1> true
[06:02] <pythonirc101> any ubuntu gurus can tell me how to make my box autologin
[06:03] <reisio> I'm not sure what people have attempted, other than hiding the bootloader
[06:03] <reisio> which is simple enough
[06:03] <RavenTrigun> Boot Loader is connected to the Two Operating Systems -Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11  therefore I am attempting to make it as secure as possible, I am confident in Ubuntu's defenses agianst cracking the password set on install but windows -_- Not in my lifetime
[06:03] <RavenTrigun> Anyway to stop them from nuking the boot loader using a live CD?
[06:04] <reisio> RavenTrigun: make it hard to find
[06:04] <Jordan_U> RavenTrigun: No. Physical access means that they can modify anything.
[06:04] <reisio> RavenTrigun: put it on a usb stick on your key chain
[06:04] <admin1> go to your system settings/ user accounts/turn off automattic login
[06:04] <soreau> pythonirc101: gdm-setup?
[06:04] <reisio> soreau: it's not gdm2setup now?
[06:05] <soreau> reisio: no idea
[06:05] <reisio> mmm
[06:05] <RavenTrigun> But wouldn't they need to mount a Encrypted Hard Drive to get access to the boot loader? I know from a Ubuntu CD that requires a pasword and even then without using Truecrypt on the CD you couldn't De-Encrypt it.
[06:05] <soreau> he didnt specify ubuntu version anyway
[06:05] <reisio> true :p
[06:05] <admin1> go to your system settings/ user accounts/turn off automattic login
[06:06] <reisio> RavenTrigun: no, the idea is to replace the bootloader, then allow someone to log in again, then come back or remotely gain access
[06:06] <pythonirc101> soreau: lemme try
[06:06] <admin1> night everyone
[06:06] <reisio> RavenTrigun: I'm not security expert, but the only protection against that that I know of is to make the bootloader hard to find
[06:06] <reisio> not a security*
[06:06] <soreau> RavenTrigun: AFAIK, the boot loader is actually stored in the first few bytes of the drive sector
[06:07] <reisio> but!
[06:07] <soreau> RavenTrigun: Jordan_U can correct me if I am wrong as he is a boot loader developer ;)
[06:07] <lolnhlsm> that accurate
[06:07] <reisio> there isn't much point worrying about the boot loader if you aren't going to worry about the RAM
[06:07] <pythonirc101> soreau: doesnt work for me: ** (gdmsetup:1953): WARNING **: Failed to unlock: The name org.gnome.DisplayManager was not provided by any .service files
[06:07] <soreau> pythonirc101: maybe gksu gdmsetup?
[06:07] <reisio> they're both physical vulnerabilities, no point covering one and not the other
[06:08] <pythonirc101> soreau: dont i have to first change the runlevel from 2 to something else?
[06:08] <pnorman> If someone has physical access to do whatever they want to a machine then return it without being detected, they're going to be able to do whatever they want
[06:08] <soreau> pythonirc101: not afaik
[06:08] <reisio> pnorman: it's going to be much more likely, yes
[06:08] <pythonirc101> soreau: nope gksu didnt help
[06:08] <soreau> pythonirc101: what version of ubuntu?
[06:08] <abhinav_singh> will installing CUDA Toolkit affect my desktop display?
[06:08] <pythonirc101> 11.04 i believe --
[06:08] <pnorman> Besides, easiest attack vector if you have physical access is a keylogger
[06:09] <soreau> abhinav_singh: shouldnt
[06:09] <soreau> pythonirc101: lsb_release -a
[06:09] <pythonirc101> 11.04
[06:09] <RavenTrigun> Well the RAM won't have anything stored on it if the computer comes from a shutdown mode if it goes to hybernate someone could get the info or from pre run programs or anything you did before you locked or threw it into hybernation. AFAIK by restarting or shutting down a computer you free the ram
[06:09] <reisio> pnorman: where would you put it
[06:09] <pnorman> reisio: inside the machine
[06:09] <abhinav_singh> so what does CUDA toolkit does actually soreau
[06:09] <reisio> RavenTrigun: wrong :)
[06:10] <reisio> pnorman: and if the box were locked?
[06:10] <jmwpc> Are segfaults usually in indication of a hardware or software problem? I'm trying to troubleshoot a crashy asterisk server
[06:10] <pnorman> then they don't have physical access
[06:10] <reisio> heh
[06:10] <reisio> I'm not saying there isn't always a scam
[06:10] <reisio> humans are easier to fool than software, anyways
[06:10] <soreau> abhinav_singh: It is nvidia specific way to use the gpu for things other than graphics afaik
[06:10] <reisio> but you can go far
[06:10] <lolnhlsm> reisio: well if your not going to freeze the ram then if you do restart a computer the ram is wiped clean
[06:11] <reisio> lolnhlsm: if you restart it you put the passphrases back into memory
[06:11] <pnorman> reisio: or you could put the keylogger in a usb cable.
[06:12] <pythonirc101> soreau: any ideas?
[06:12] <lolnhlsm> right but nothing in RAM is stored, its a sandbox for programs to work in
[06:12] <soreau> pythonirc101: give me a moment
[06:12] <pythonirc101> thanks
[06:12] <RavenTrigun> Lets play the what if game. Say I Encrypted my Bootl Loader and Both Hard Drives. The Federal Agents broke down my door and hauled me away to jail. They took my computer as evidence and everything needed to convict me is on the computer how would they get my files.
[06:12] <lolnhlsm> thats really hard
[06:13] <lolnhlsm> there was an article on thehackernews that was talking about how difficult that is to crack encrypted hard drives
[06:13] <RavenTrigun> They UNPLUGGED MY COMPUTER.
[06:13] <pnorman> RavenTrigun: Get a court order for your password, then stick you in jail for contempt of court?
[06:13] <reisio> RavenTrigun: if they did it that way, the only way would be tricking you or beating it out of you (etc.)
[06:13] <reisio> RavenTrigun: but if they stalked you they could probably trick you into giving away your access
[06:13] <reisio> or simply snatch your box as you were using it
[06:14] <lolnhlsm> they just might be fucking with you, or you have a 4 letter password lol
[06:14] <Tm_T> lolnhlsm: language, please
[06:14] <reisio> doesn't matter, the part of the government that identifies themselves don't do this :p
[06:14] <soreau> pythonirc101: gdmsetup should work
[06:14] <reisio> they would need the information to get the warrant to get it
[06:14] <reisio> and the other part of the government could just threaten you
[06:15] <soreau> pythonirc101: at least on my natty, I can run that from a terminal, unlock it and tell it which user to auto-login
[06:15] <lolnhlsm> the most devious mode of information recovery i know of is when they freeze your RAM with some chemical and it keeps all the info stored
[06:15] <lolnhlsm> encrypted hard drives are no joke
[06:15] <pnorman> There is a difference between physical access to take a machine and physical access where they can tamper and you don't know.
[06:15] <reisio> basically if the government is after you, your information has already been made public
[06:15] <reisio> because if it were secret, nobody would be after you :p
[06:15] <lolnhlsm> well
[06:15] <lolnhlsm> i know that
[06:15] <lolnhlsm> i've used a puppy live cd
[06:15] <RavenTrigun> My feet is on the power cord they can try to grab it before I shut it down. But now lets say I left it running and they were smart enough to know I was smart enough to encrypt my computer.
[06:16] <lolnhlsm> more then once to get into 'password protected' areas of a computer
[06:16] <pythonirc101> soreau: what is your runlevel?
[06:16] <reisio> RavenTrigun: that isn't enough, you can get the passphrases from memory for quite some time after power is lost
[06:16] <t2mahesh> is their any way i can resize window to a fixed size say 800x600 ?
[06:16] <lolnhlsm> thats one of the first things i learned about information backup
[06:16] <soreau> pythonirc101: just running from a regular X session
[06:16] <reisio> RavenTrigun: but again, nobody smart would bother betting everything on that
[06:16] <somsip> wow - how Ot is this going to get... :)
[06:16] <reisio> RavenTrigun: they'd just trick you
[06:16] <pythonirc101> soreau: can you paste your "runlevel" output please?
[06:17] <lolnhlsm> is it some password with a 'answer a security question' thing with it?
[06:17] <reisio> is what?
[06:17] <soreau> pythonirc101: sure
[06:17] <Jordan_U> !runlevel | pythonirc101
[06:18] <RavenTrigun> So litterally the only way I can truely make 100% sure that my computer is secure is to attach a Thermite Bomb to my computer so when I press a button it melts everything ? Wow and how do security "professionals" get on tv and say everything is "Secure" after a Data Breach lol.
[06:18] <lolnhlsm> well no
[06:18] <lolnhlsm> there is a way
[06:18] <lolnhlsm> that
[06:18] <soreau> pythonirc101: $ runlevel \n  N 2
[06:18] <reisio> RavenTrigun: no, because you can be stopped from pressing a button
[06:18] <lolnhlsm> i heard of this one form of encryption, kid at my school messed with it
[06:18] <pythonirc101> soreau: mine is the same
[06:18] <reisio> encryption protects you from people who rob your house, from them getting any personal data
[06:18] <lolnhlsm> if you fail the password more then 3 times the hard drive locks down permentantly for good
[06:18] <soreau> RavenTrigun: Really, this conversation is beginning to become off topic
[06:19] <reisio> it doesn't protect you from informed professionals who will stop at nothing
[06:19] <soreau> RavenTrigun: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[06:19] <RavenTrigun> resisio: well that hasn't stopped many a bomber and true this has I better get back to actually wiping my computer
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> RavenTrigun: Stating that something is secure means that it is secure from the particular types of threats you are trying to address, not all possible threats on the planet.  And yes, #ubuntu-offtopic for any follow-up.
[06:20] <javier_faj> hi. I run windows 7 in virtual box on ubuntu native SO. I share my home folder, that appears as a network in windows 7. But this network appears as disconnected (crossed with a red X). I can navigate throw it apparently without problems, but, if I explore the unit under certain applications (many of them, all from Office for example) I get problems, saying the address doesn't exist and so on (because of disconnected network). Any idea? thanks!
[06:20] <soreau> pythonirc101: Well it worksforme
[06:21] <urlin2u> javier_faj, try sharing a file not the whole home that is the intention.
[06:21] <arrrghhh> hey all.  just updated a dell laptop from 11.04 to 11.10... and it hangs on shutdown/restart.  i just tried a manual sudo shutdown -r now, and it still hangs...
[06:22] <lolnhlsm> i've never navigated outside of virtual box, personally. i was under the impression virtual machines think they're the only partition on the computer
[06:22] <arrrghhh> i hit ctrl-alt-f1->f6, and i can't login...
[06:22] <javier_faj> urlin2u: you think the problem can be sharing the whole home?
[06:22] <lolnhlsm> arrrghhh: i had issues with my upgrade to 11.10, after a clean install, it kept all my files but cleaned up all the bugs i had
[06:23] <arrrghhh> lolnhlsm, you can do a fresh install and it keeps the files...?
[06:23] <arrrghhh> i don't think there's a separate /home partition
[06:24] <urlin2u> javier_faj, yes probably, a folder is the share. You need to have your user name in the host in the VM user, and use the settings-share to identify the share file.
[06:25] <lolnhlsm> yeah, if you install from a cd or usb it gives you the option to 'upgrade 11.10 to 11.10', but and it got rid of all the bugs i had and kept all the files. i had to reinstall some programs but all my music, pictures and the like were in tact
[06:25] <soreau> lolnhlsm: 'upgrade 11.10 to 11.10' eh?
[06:25] <arrrghhh> lolnhlsm, ok cool.  i guess i'll try that... what a cluster!  unity is kinda bleh too.  gnome3... will take some getting used to, but i like it better than unity.
[06:25] <lolnhlsm> yeah, thats what it says. i've done it more then once
[06:26] <soreau> how conveniently confusing
[06:26] <arrrghhh> ok
[06:26] <ZekeS> arrrghhh: you could use kde or lxde or xfce or no de at all or ...
[06:27] <arrrghhh> ZekeS, i'm aware of the options.  this isn't my computer.  i could also use gnome classic.
[06:27] <soreau> arrrghhh: Yes, you can use gnome classic or any other multitude of options. Compiz can run in any DE or without one
[06:27] <lolnhlsm> when i upgraded my unity dash was extremely glitchy and some programs were a little 'o_0'
[06:27] <arrrghhh> that's what i did with both my parent's computers
[06:27] <ZekeS> arrrghhh: ah; I should scroll up a bit more
[06:27] <lolnhlsm> with the cd 'upgrade' everything was fine
[06:27] <arrrghhh> ZekeS, i don't think i mentioned that.  np ;)
[06:28] <ssfdre38> how can i set up a user to jailed ssh
[06:29] <MoLoot> I have a remote server with xfce to which I remote to using xrdp.  I login the server from both home and from work.  I do not get the same session, which I would like to have happen.  Where do I find the docs or the configure change?
[06:29] <arrrghhh> MoLoot, same user?  unless you leave the old session attached...
[06:30] <darkstar999> ssfdre38: Maybe look into jailshell?
[06:30] <sajimon> hello, im trying to add newly installed gentoo to grub menu, co i call grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg, os-prober says it found Gentoo Base System , but os-prober section in grub.cfg is empty, what i am doing wrong?
[06:31] <MoLoot> arrrghhh: yes, the same user.  Like I leave firefox running @ work and disconnect, and connect from home and have to manually kill the process. I'd ideally like to just login and have the desktop the same way.
[06:31] <javier_faj> urlin2u, unfortunately, that was not the issue. I tried sharing a different folder inside /home, and it maps it as a drive, but some programs also detect it as disconnected (just as with /home)
[06:31] <arrrghhh> MoLoot, maybe that's the problem.  if you leave an old session up, it has no option but to spawn a new session. ..
[06:32] <guest_> hey, I really need some help configuring an lcd monitor. I've tried alllllll the tutorials and nothing is working.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> sajimon: Most likely your Gentoo kernel and initrd files don't follow any of the standard naming conventions so when grub-mkconfig looks for kernels in Gentoo's /boot/ it doesn't find any.
[06:32] <reisio> guest_: this is a place3
[06:32] <MoLoot> arrrghhh: isn't there a way this session could be shared then?
[06:32] <arrrghhh> MoLoot, well i know how to do that on like vnc
[06:32] <arrrghhh> you do :<session number>
[06:32] <arrrghhh> so host:0
[06:33] <MoLoot> arrrghhh: I don't even know where to read... Xfce docs, the client, xrdp docs... it'l like whoah
[06:33] <arrrghhh> lol
[06:33] <urlin2u> javier_faj, have you read the manual, the share is a two way connect you set up the share then find it with windows.
[06:33] <arrrghhh> i would think xrdp
[06:33] <sajimon> Jordan_U: oh it does, it even adds new menus positions to launch ubuntu with gentoo kernel
[06:34] <Jordan_U> sajimon: You don't want to share /boot/ between distributions.
[06:35] <skypent> is there a version of skype available for ubuntu?
[06:35] <lolnhlsm> a really old one
[06:35] <javier_faj> urlin2u, you mean, I first have to share the file in ubuntu and later set it in windows as shared folder. Yes I did that. I said in windows I want to share the folder and later, in virtualbox, chose it as shared folder too
[06:35] <reisio> skypent: yup
[06:35] <thunderfog> hello
[06:35] <lolnhlsm> i use it all the time, its pretty efficient, even though i think its a beta
[06:36] <sajimon> urghh, ok ill use custom entry.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> sajimon: Keep Ubuntu's /boot/ separate from Gentoo's /boot/. The easiest way to do this is to just not have a separate /boot/ partition, so that both /boot/ directories are just subdirectories of each Distribution's root.
[06:36] <reisio> thunderfog: hi
[06:36] <thunderfog> how r u?
[06:36] <reisio> sajimon: you didn't say you were tryingt o share /boot, did you?
[06:37] <thunderfog> no....
[06:37] <vega-> where do i configure the number of workspaces?
[06:37] <urlin2u> javier_faj, you might try their channel if you like as well. #vbox
[06:38] <vega-> (in unity, 11.10)
[06:38] <lolnhlsm> compiz?
[06:38] <vega-> lolnhlsm: probably... ?
[06:39] <javier_faj> urlin2u, thanks :) I'm already asking there, but there is not that much people
[06:39] <lolnhlsm> vega, thats the first place i'd look. you might have to install it from software center. not to sure.
[06:39] <vega-> lolnhlsm: install what? compiz?
[06:39] <lolnhlsm> i had a cube screen set up with compiz in 10.10, idk if they've caught up with unity though
[06:40] <urlin2u> javier_faj, that happens I can't think of anything else really.
[06:40] <lolnhlsm> yes
[06:40] <vega-> i'd think it's running already..
[06:40] <reisio> guest_: nobody knows what the problem you're having is yet
[06:40] <earlten> okay, let's try *another* question. When I install the ATi catalyst drivers... I have 2 displays connected.both samsung..  DVI to my 24" monitor and VGA to my 37" television. Why is it that I can move the desktops around to that the mouse moves from one to the next properly, but I can't force the primary display to be the TV?
[06:40] <reisio> guest_: also if you can send the message '/nick somethingOtherThanGuest_', that would be wonderful
[06:40] <earlten> it worked right before the ati drivers were installed........\
[06:40] <javier_faj> urlin2u, thanks anyway for you time :)
[06:41] <reisio> earlten: backup your config next time
[06:41] <earlten> that's a quality answer and will clearly solve the current provlem
[06:41] <lolnhlsm> did you install compiz yourself? because 11.10 doesnt come with it
[06:42] <lolnhlsm> 'CompizConfig Settings Manager' is the program
[06:42] <Jordan_U> reisio: I extrapolated that sajimon was probably sharing /boot/ ( /etc/grub.d/10_linux only adds entries for kernels in /boot/ of the system it's run from, not other partitions for other OSs).
[06:42] <earlten> I'm sorry, I didn't think selecting which display should be my primary desktop would take an act of congress
[06:43] <earlten> reisio: do you perhaps have a better answer? One that might fix my problem instead of just jabbing at me with useless information?
[06:43] <lolnhlsm> reading the reviews though, seems incompatible with a lot of 11.10 users, so be careul
[06:43] <lolnhlsm> vega
[06:44] <reisio> earlten: nope, in fact I take it back, don't ever back up your configs
[06:45] <earlten> wow
[06:45] <reisio> guest_: what's the problem...?  It's just blank?
[06:45] <earlten> please tell me you aren't a representative of this community
[06:45] <earlten> because you sir...  are a jackass
[06:45] <lolnhlsm> lol
[06:46] <darkstar999> earlten: don't feed the trolls
[06:46] <earlten> apparently
[06:46] <earlten> darkstar999: would you happen to have a suggestion for me that might help my situation?
[06:47] <vega-> lolnhlsm: i once install ccsm, after that i spent two hours cleaning it's files from my home directory so i could login again, no thanks
[06:47] <darkstar999> earlten: I haven't been watching. what's your problem?
[06:47] <lolnhlsm> vega: yeah, i was talking about the reviews being unfavorable for unity a few minutes ago
[06:48] <republic> if I want to download the whole source code of ubuntu(without any application, only those included in installation cd), what is the size of the source code?
[06:48] <lolnhlsm> i had it installed in 11.04 and it screwed up my gnome desktop- it used to be a pretty superb program before that
[06:48] <earlten> it worked right before the ati drivers were installed........\
[06:48] <earlten> okay, let's try *another* question. When I install the ATi catalyst drivers... I have 2 displays connected.both samsung..  DVI to my 24" monitor and VGA to my 37" television. Why is it that I can move the desktops around to that the mouse moves from one to the next properly, but I can't force the primary display to be the TV?
[06:48] <earlten> wrong order
[06:49] <darkstar999> you are on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:49] <ZekeS> earlten: isnt that set via xrandr or something for ati?
[06:49] <earlten> using KDE oneiric and the latest catalyst drivers
[06:49] <earlten> I've been trying to set it via the GUi, and it won't force anymore
[06:49] <earlten> darkstar999: yes
[06:49] <lolnhlsm> republic, a typical ubuntu iso is around 700 megs
[06:49] <reisio> darkstar999: identifying trolls without even watching, that's talent
[06:50] <vega-> lolnhlsm: yeah, pretty odd you can't do this with standard tools.. my problem is that i only have ONE desktop, i'd like the usual four :)
[06:50] <darkstar999> earlten: i have my own problems with dual displays! sorry, don't know how to help you
[06:50] <republic> lolnhlsm, that would be 48 hours downloading
[06:50] <c_nick> Issues while installing SVN on linux
[06:50] <c_nick> I followed everything on this link http://maketecheasier.com/setting-up-subversion-version-control-in-ubuntu/2008/08/11
[06:50] <lolnhlsm> vega: are you running 11.10?
[06:50] <reisio> republic: you actually want the source and not the binaries?
[06:50] <lolnhlsm> republic: can you run off a starbucks' bandwith or something?
[06:51] <vega-> lolnhlsm: yes
[06:51] <vega-> lolnhlsm: and unity 2d
[06:51] <lolnhlsm> vega: it should be the bottom grey button in the dash
[06:51] <republic> reisio, the source code
[06:51] <lolnhlsm> vega; if its not there look up 'workspace switcher' in the dash search
[06:51] <lolnhlsm> then once its up lock it to the dash
[06:52] <republic> lolnhlsm, starbucks bandwith would be quite similar with mine
[06:52] <vega-> lolnhlsm: it's there, but when i click on it, it zooms out but only displays one workspace and the three others are just "black" and now switchable to
[06:52] <vega-> now=not
[06:52] <lolnhlsm> hmm, did you do an upgrade or an install?
[06:52] <vega-> lolnhlsm: install
[06:53] <lolnhlsm> vega: is it every time you boot up or just this session that youve tried it out
[06:53] <vega-> and it worked up to some point, i used to have 4 desktops.. until at some point
[06:53] <vega-> it could have been that they disappeared at the same time ccsm was installed/deinstalled
[06:53] <reisio> republic: significantly more than 700MB, I believe
[06:53] <vega-> lolnhlsm: every time
[06:54] <republic> lolnhlsm, not 48 hours, but around 12 hours :D
[06:54] <lolnhlsm> vega: but it worked before ccsm?
[06:54] <republic> reisio, oh that is very big
[06:54] <reisio> :p
[06:54] <vega-> lolnhlsm: i'd think so yes, most probable is that ccsm screwed it up
[06:54] <republic> reisio, and I only get 15KB/s
[06:54] <Jordan_U> republic: Why do you want all of the souce for all of the packages in a default install?
[06:55] <republic> Jordan_U, I want to try to learn to read it
[06:55] <jita> I keep on getting this message enter password to unlock your login keyring in ubuntu 11.10
[06:55] <jita> how do i disable it ?
[06:55] <republic> Jordan_U, at least just simply navigating it
[06:56] <lolnhlsm> vega: ccsm has screwed up all my unity desktops past 10.10, i'd imagine that might be the issue. it might be profitable to hitch back to 10.10 since its still supported
[06:56] <republic> Jordan_U, and skimming it
[06:56] <Jordan_U> republic: Start with one project at a time, "apt-get source packagename".
[06:56] <slide> Does anyone know if there is an easy to way actually get the Launcher to mount a network share to a local dir instead of using its in built samba browser? No other program can access those mounts
[06:56] <lolnhlsm> or maybe look at the ubuntu forums for a similar problem, because i've solved problems from ccsm with a few terminal codes
[06:56] <lolnhlsm> that i found on a thread
[06:57] <republic> Jordan_U, very good advice. I am going to try it :D
[06:57] <vega-> lolnhlsm: yeah, something like that...
[06:59] <lolnhlsm> vega: although right now im looking at a page were compiz is working just fine on 11.10. i'd have to have to use team to probe the problem any more
[07:01] <vega-> lolnhlsm: figured it out already, i edited .gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml and changed num_workspaces from 1 to 4
[07:01] <vega-> :)
[07:01] <lolnhlsm> :D
[07:02] <earlten> useless as tits on a boar
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | earlten
[07:05] <Mneumonic> So friendly and polite that I was reffered to as "boy" in the offtopic IRC
[07:05] <Mneumonic> about half an hour ago
[07:06] <lolnhlsm> i think offtopic is a bit offcolor from ubuntu standards
[07:07] <earlten> friendly?
[07:08] <earlten> darkstar999 was friendly..  but so far, he's been in the minority, and out of the half dozen problems I have had to solve on my own so far..  helpful has not come close to even being near this equation
[07:09] <earlten> It's no wonder linux is a dead end for end-users
[07:09] <Mneumonic> Honestly I have never had a single problem solved in the IRC, I have been disrespected every time.  It's a bad impression on Canonical since they send new users here.
[07:09] <soreau> ! attitude | earlten
[07:09] <gunfire007> does ubuntu support power management for nvidia graphic cards with optimus technology ?
[07:10] <soreau> earlten: You should be happy free support for free software even exists
[07:10] <lolnhlsm> i usually stick to the forums if you want my opinion
[07:10] <sln45> May I ask a question about on-screen annotation and metacity as a compositing manager?
[07:10] <arrrghhh> Mneumonic, i don't know why you're complaining about offtopic in here.... but i've always gotten help (eventually) on any issue i've had.
[07:10] <lolnhlsm> a lot more professional and cordial
[07:11] <lolnhlsm> but i also dont have much to complain about the irc either
[07:11] <ZekeS> soreau: that doesn't mean people get to be dicks to him, like was happening earlier :S
[07:11] <ZekeS> gunfire007: I don't believe so - you can try bumblebee
[07:11] <soreau> Mneumonic: earlten: The support you receive largely depends on what you ask and how you ask it as well as your patience level and attitude
[07:11] <brjannc> gunfire007: Ubuntu doesn't out of the box, but there are PPAs for bumblebee and ironhide, which sort-of help
[07:11] <earlten> My attitude started out that way...  but this place had seriously jaded me. There is a phrase..  "With friends like you, who needs enemies" - it applies here. Free support that comes with jaded and bitter responses that are not cyrrently helpful to the problem at hand, and no real answers to what should be simple if not at least straight forward problems is hardly what I woudl call "support"
[07:11] <soreau> ! language ZekeS
[07:11] <soreau> ! language | ZekeS
[07:12] <sln45> Nobody would be able to help me? Metacity and Compiz at the same time? Annotation tools?
[07:12] <soreau> ! ask | sln45
[07:12] <gunfire007> brjannc: can't i disable nvidia graphic cards and switch to intel graphic cards, does this solve the prob ?
[07:12] <lolnhlsm> well earlten, i can't share your feelings. i love the ubuntu community, and one of the reasons ive stuck with it is because of the community tech support
[07:12] <gunfire007> ZekeS: ok :)
[07:12] <lolnhlsm> you dont have to stay and complain
[07:13] <soreau> sln45: AFAIK, only compiz has annotate, noe metacity
[07:13] <soreau> not*
[07:13] <Morgz> can anyone point me towards a tutorial to setup my pc as a proxy server for a remote pc
[07:13] <lolnhlsm> ive met to many nice ubuntu/linux users to buy into the 'jerk linux user stereotype. but ima stop here before i get oftopic
[07:13] <brjannc> gunfire007: Again, sort of :) I'm on a dell xps 15 with optimus at the moment, and my nvidia card is powered down via bumblebee, but I can use it to run certain applications as needed
[07:14] <ZekeS> Speaking of bumblebee, someone link that one git commit >.>
[07:14] <brjannc> gunfire007: It's not as seamless as in windows, and the power-off stuff takes a little bit of work as it's not enabled by default
[07:14] <sln45> I have a tablet netbook. Compiz is heavy and unnecessary, so I use Metacity. Gromit does not work. Ardesia is too heavy and unnecessary. I'm told I can use Compiz' annotate feature alongside Metacity without employing any of Compiz' other stuff. Is it true?
[07:15] <sln45> And if not, any other suggestions?
[07:15] <arrrghhh> earlten, i couldn't disagree with you more.
[07:15] <lolnhlsm> Morgz, i have a friend who knows how to do that, let me hit him up on skype
[07:15] <earlten> point in case: Forcing a primary display to a certain monitor should be an easy fix. And while I've been a *nix server admin for 2 decades with a great deal of experience, the front end stuff is foreign to me, and I thought I'd give it a try.
[07:15] <gunfire007> brjannc: can't i turn off nvidia graphics and use the intel inbuilt graphics which is 128 MB ?
[07:15] <gunfire007> this might solve the prob i think..
[07:15] <soreau> sln45: compiz is only as heavy as the plugins you enable and how well your graphics driver performs
[07:15] <ZekeS> gunfire007: that's just what he was telling you to do, actually ;)
[07:15] <brjannc> gunfire007: bumblebee and the installation instructions can be found here: https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/stable
[07:16] <jita> How can i disable "Enter password to unlock your login keyring" when i start empathy? I autologin in ubuntu 11.10
[07:16] <gunfire007> ZekeS: :D
[07:16] <crizzy> gunfire007: if you can't do it from bios, you most likely can't do it without windows
[07:16] <soreau> sln45: You cant use compiz and metacity at the same time but you can configure compiz to have only the same functionality of metacity + annotate
[07:16] <earlten> I thought "Hmm. This would be an easier answer by asking people who know" - I've found 7 fixes that don't work on google so far... I would think that the ubuntu support channel would be able to offer some insight
[07:16] <gunfire007> crizzy: there is an option in bios to disable it..
[07:16] <brjannc> crizzy: not true
[07:16] <sln45> soreau: There's a bear minimum of plugins that it just won't allow me to turn off, and I don't know how to make it not be my compositing manager and do nothing but annotate
[07:16] <earlten> randr is great about moving the displays around..  sure..  but how do I set which one is primary?
[07:17] <sln45> soreau: I literally only want window shadows and annotate
[07:17] <earlten> It's obviously set somewhere
[07:17] <gunfire007> thanks brjannc :)
[07:17] <soreau> sln45: You cant make it do only annotate. You have to run compiz as your window manager
[07:17] <brjannc> gunfire007: you're welcome, good luck :)
[07:17] <earlten> I didn't want to have to learn how to write an xorg conf to fix this
[07:17] <lolnhlsm> earlten, whining at the offtopic
[07:17] <gunfire007> brjannc: :D
[07:17] <earlten> wasted oxygen really
[07:18] <soreau> sln45: What version of ubuntu?
[07:18] <earlten> since I know none of you give a shit
[07:18] <earlten> but at least I said it..  and it was heard
[07:18] <arrrghhh> !language
[07:18] <soreau> earlten: This is your last warning
[07:18] <Flannel> earlten: Please mind the language and your attitude.  Thanks.
[07:18] <lolnhlsm> sorry bro, im an A+ repair tech, i dont always deal with screens
[07:18] <sln45> earlten: Shut up Earlten. You're just being obnoxious.
[07:18] <earlten> kick me, you're no jelp anyhow
[07:18] <soreau> sln45: That is not necessary
[07:18] <earlten> right, clearly
[07:19] <sln45> As if his rudeness is justified.
[07:19] <Flannel> sln45: Its not, but neither is yours.
[07:19] <sln45> You guys dance around things more than you probably should. It's not like he's going to intuit that he's being a stupidhead
[07:20] <soreau> -_-
[07:20] <ZekeS> earlten: aticcle maybe?
[07:20] <earlten> way to reign this in. It's a good thing it is free, because if someone were paying for not getting anything but chastized for being frustrated and no additional help, you'd go bankrupt
[07:20] <sln45> soreau: Gotcha. Well, can I configure it beyond what its frontend wants me to? Because it seems to follow those three magic wand special effects settings
[07:20] <soreau> sln45: After those comments, I really dont feel like helping you anymore
[07:20] <jita> How can i disable "Enter password to unlock your login keyring" when i start empathy? I autologin in ubuntu 11.10
[07:21] <ZekeS> next can we kick the guy who got him riled up in the first place?
[07:21] <sln45> soreau: Fine by me. No one is making you do anything. I appreciate what help you've given me
[07:21] <pangolin> Can we get back to the real reason we are all here.
[07:21] <lolnhlsm> jita
[07:21] <lolnhlsm> shoot, i knew how to do this in gnome, unity is different
[07:21] <earlten> dirty hippies
[07:21] <hiexpo> need help with sound i checked and the system shows my sound card
[07:22] <sln45> soreau: It's Natty Narwhal if you still want to know
[07:22] <lolnhlsm> jita, type in 'login' in the dahs search
[07:22] <jita> lolnhlsm, is it the default behavior or have i messed up with something ?
[07:22] <linda> hiexpo: Run  aslamixer  and see what you've got going on,.
[07:22] <hiexpo> linda, k
[07:22] <lolnhlsm> then click 'user accounts' and its there where you can shut 'autologin' on or off
[07:23] <lolnhlsm> or login keyring
[07:23] <ZekeS> lolnhlsm: why do you want to go to jita and should I get some maelstroms handy ... oh wait that's a nick here sry
[07:23] <lolnhlsm> your trying to get into wifi netework?
[07:23] <Dustin1>  do you know anything about apt-get root-system-bin installed correctly on Backtrack?
[07:23] <pangolin> !backtrack | Dustin1
[07:23] <soreau> sln45: What 'three magic wand special effects settings' are you referring to then?
[07:23] <hiexpo> ok linda i have it up
[07:23] <soreau> afaik, those arent in 11.04
[07:24] <sln45> soreau: I'm sorry it was such an unspecific way of putting it. I was hoping you'd recognize what I was talking about. Give me a minute to get the exact name
[07:24] <linda> hiexpo: First,  see that your sound card is properly identified in the upper right corner of the window.  Next, see that nothing is muted and/or turned down.  (MM at the bottom of the channel's bar indicates muted.)
[07:24] <lolnhlsm> jita: it is default behavior, but it doesn't exactly happen all the time. i have to type in my pw to open it on occasion, im not to sure as to what prompts it
[07:25] <hiexpo> linda, it shows all good nothing muted
[07:25] <jita> lolnhlsm, it opens when i open empathy
[07:25] <linda> hiexpo: The right arrow takes you across to other channel controls, m to unmute, up arrow to turn up.....
[07:25] <linda> hiexpo: Is your sound chip properly identified there?
[07:26] <jita> lolnhlsm, so if i dont use autologin, it does not prompt for it
[07:26] <hiexpo> linda, yes realtek id 270
[07:26] <jay3> hey guys I got a questiong here? how do you install apt-get root-system-bin properly installed on ubuntu?
[07:26] <linda> hiexpo: Ok, good.  So tell me what applications will not play sound, or what is the difficulty you are having with audio.
[07:26] <prince_jammys> jay3: :)
[07:27] <hiexpo> linda,   i have no sound on anything
[07:27] <jay3> hello there prince_jammys
[07:27] <Dustin1> Hey Jay3
[07:27] <prince_jammys> jay3: howdy.
[07:27] <jay3> How are you today>
[07:27] <linda> hiexpo: I see.  Are you sure you have the speakers plugged into a port that is outuptting audio?
[07:28] <lolnhlsm> jita, no, i thought you were talking about a separate issue, ignore my first comment. I have had to put in my PW for the key ring before when logging into seturn access points so i know its not unusual behavior, but that it only does that with empathy is a little odd to me
[07:28] <lolnhlsm> jita, but im not a pro :/
[07:28] <hiexpo> linda, it is a laptop
[07:28] <linda> hiexpo: ... plugged in all the way, securely... Oh, it is a laptop....
[07:28] <Dustin1> Google is ur friend
[07:28] <linda> hiexpo: Is there any thumbwheels or sliders or anything on the laptop that might be turned down?
[07:29] <hiexpo> linda, nope
[07:30] <linda> hiexpo: And on laptops, there are usually Function Key combos that deal with audio.  Do you see that?
[07:30] <arrrghhh> uhm.  this is odd.  i am on a liveUSB install, with ~1gb persistence.  i installed the proprietary drivers for this wireless card, and on a reboot i can search & connect to wifi networks - but DNS isn't working?  i can ping 8.8.8.8, but not www.google.com.  browsing fails as well.  i tried doing a static configuration, and it connects - but still fails, with manual DNS servers entered.  what can i do?  just install and let it sort it out later?
[07:30] <hiexpo> linda, nope
[07:31] <linda> hiexpo: Back on the alsamixer window, go through all the channels and turn all of them up so that you can make sure nothing is turned down.
[07:31] <soreau> arrrghhh: Put nameserver 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:31] <sln45> soreau: Again, sorry for the delay. The setting is gone; I assume that's a result of my not having compiz for like a year now. I'm putting it back as my compositing manager... Might go back to fiddling with things myself instead of bothering you
[07:31] <soreau> sln45: This is what you probably want to do: 1) Remove compiz-plugins-main package 2) In ccsm, disable everything except Move, Resize, Window Decoration, Application Switcher, Gnome Compatibility and Place Windows (and of course Annotate) 3) Run compiz and test
[07:31] <jay3> yep 8.8.8.8 is diffently the main ip address for there dns server and router for sure
[07:31] <arrrghhh> soreau, orly?  i figured that would've been taken care of with network manager, i'll try that.
[07:31] <hiexpo> linda, all are turned up
[07:31] <jay3> I reconise that address there
[07:31] <sln45> soreau: Oh! Okay, noted.
[07:31] <linda> hiexpo: Sometimes not all the channels are visible on the screen and if you keep hitting the right arrow it will go to another channel that is off the screen.
[07:32] <hiexpo> linda, ok let me see
[07:32] <mithrop> hi here
[07:32] <hiexpo> linda, all is good there
[07:32] <soreau> sln45: Since 0.9.4 has a fair amount of bugs that are fixed in compiz git master, I would go as far as recommending to install latest. There is a script to automate the process on 11.04 and installs to /opt (wont mess with your packaged compiz)
[07:32] <arrrghhh> soreau, should i be able to edit this on a liveUSB install?  i'm getting an input/output error.
[07:33] <sln45> soreau: I'm going to try things, and I'll come back if I have any problems. Thank you.
[07:33] <sln45> ssoreau: You mean the dev?
[07:33] <soreau> arrrghhh: I/O error is bad. and yes, you should be able to edit it in a live session AFAIK
[07:33] <sln45> soreau: You mean the dev? Or is there a new build not in the repository?
[07:33] <arrrghhh> soreau, could be this usb key.  it's been thru hell and back.
[07:34] <mithrop> i'm looking for a way to easily put colours in my term, like in Gentoo. Somebody a solution plz ?
[07:34] <Dustin1> HiC:
[07:34] <arrrghhh> mithrop, i think you can pretty easily do that with gnome-terminal
[07:34] <Pauluntu> anyone have any ideas why skype is so staticy i mean while it opens and closes its all staticy the audio is horrible
[07:34] <linda> hiexpo: Ok try this:  totem /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[07:34] <sln45> Ha ha ha, when soreau said "arrrghhh" earlier I thought it was out of frustration.
[07:34] <arrrghhh> sln45, i have that effect on people
[07:35] <lolnhlsm> Pauluntu: it might of installed improperly
[07:35] <lolnhlsm> remove and install ?
[07:35] <soreau> sln45: ubuntu heavily patches compiz to get unity working. Regardless, 0.9.4 has enough bugs to make it very frustrating to use. The main upstream development branch is reasonable from my experience
[07:35] <sln45> Pauluntu: Install pavucontrol, play with settings. It sounds like it is probably your mic, though. Does it do that in sound recorder?
[07:35] <mithrop> arrrghhh: actually, I am in KDE, but I'm sure it's almost the same
[07:35] <arrrghhh> mithrop, konsole?
[07:35] <lolnhlsm> how do you patch compiz for unity/
[07:35] <lolnhlsm> ?
[07:35] <arrrghhh> mithrop, also, #kubuntu :P
[07:35] <sln45> soreau: I don't have unity. I probably should have mentioned that.
[07:36] <sln45> soreau: I can't run it.
[07:36] <soreau> sln45: And if you must know, I personally did some work on annotate plugin for compiz 0.9.x so there are new features and bug fixes
[07:36] <lolnhlsm> I want to get compiz running for 11.10 but it wrecked my 11.04 desktop and i haven't touched it since
[07:36] <sln45> soreau: Oh! Hey, that's really cool. So yes, there's a new build and I'm not getting the dev?
[07:36] <hiexpo> linda,  i just plugged headphones in and i have sound in them so let me check to see if this laptop has speakers  lol
[07:37]  * prince_jammys giggles
[07:37] <soreau> sln45: I also wrote the build script for compiz 0.9.x tailored for ubuntu 11.04. In case you're interested, do this to install it: sudo apt-get install git && git clone git://anongit.compiz.org/users/soreau/scripts && ./scripts/build_compiz++
[07:38] <mithrop> arrrghhh: ok, I'm goind to #kubuntu ^^ but I don't want just a background colors ;)
[07:39] <sln45> soreau: Oh, well... I actually have another machine of the same make and build with an older release I want to do this with, too. I don't think I'll be employing your script, though I appreciate it.
[07:39] <jay3> Hey I got some good news here guys
[07:39] <soreau> lolnhlsm: Can you show the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[07:39] <sln45> jay3: What?
[07:39] <jay3> I think I may just have found what I was looking here for
[07:39] <sln45> jay3: Wonderful. :)
[07:39] <linda> jay3: So what did you find?
[07:39] <jay3> with apt-get root-system-bin
[07:40] <lolnhlsm> glxinfo isa not installed
[07:40] <soreau> sln45: In compiz 0.8.x (included with <= 10.10) there's a bug in annotate where it 'skips'
[07:40] <linda> Numerical data analysis framework - general applications ?
[07:40] <jay3> well a with a web page that give instructions on how to install it
[07:41] <sln45> soreau: Okay. Also noted.
[07:41] <Pauluntu> my mic wont pick up audio :( this sucks
[07:41] <soreau> lolnhlsm: Easily remedied.. by installing mesa-utils package
[07:41] <lolnhlsm> ??
[07:41] <sln45> Pauluntu: Have you tried playing with pavucontrol? It's a great sound manager, I promise.
[07:41] <Pauluntu> sln45, yeah the mic is suppose to pick up audio its not muted
[07:41] <jay3> So what do you think there sln45 you blive that will work for installing root-system-bin?
[07:41] <lolnhlsm> so ccsm will work afterwords?
[07:42] <ZekeS> pavucontrol <3
[07:42] <d34d1y> Is there a program I can use to steam my desktop via webcam chats like stickam?
[07:42] <machiolate> how do i uninstall my video driver on Ubuntu 11.10 ? I'm installing an updated driver and need to get rid of the old one.
[07:42] <Pauluntu> sln45, yeah linux is nice but i gotta make the switch to microsoft i need video/audio capabilities
[07:42] <sln45> Pauluntu: On my computer I had to set one channel to zero, then click the green check.
[07:42] <sln45> jay3: Huh?
[07:43] <sln45> jay3: I'm sorry, i missed what you said
[07:43] <linda> d34d1y: skype has a desktop share function, small screen but...
[07:43] <dr_willis> d34d1y: i think i saw a tool called webcam studio that could do that and more
[07:43] <sln45> Pauluntu: Have patience. Sound issues are irritating, but they often have simple fixes. Be sure to google your brand and/or model heavily.
[07:44] <d34d1y> I tried messing around with webcam studio but no luck, i'll read documentation and give it another shot tho thanks
[07:44] <jay3> oh I was trying to download and install with apt-get with file downloaded here called root-system-bin
[07:44] <jay3> there ya go sln45
[07:44] <d34d1y> How do i get my cursor theme to work all around instead of only in firefox?
[07:45] <dr_willis> d34d1y: it hadmore stuff then i wver needed :-)
[07:45] <sln45> jay3: Right... so it's a package in the ubuntu repository? you would do sudo apt-get install root-system-bin
[07:45] <Dustin1> jay3
[07:45] <sln45> jay3: What is root-system-bin? It sounds like a strange thing to install.
[07:46] <jay3> yes that is correct its for ubuntu
[07:46] <jay3> its the main software for root account
[07:47] <sln45> jay3: Um, okay.
[07:47] <sebest> Hello, is there a place where i can find a repo for karmic?
[07:47] <jay3> yea no worries there sln45 its a bit diffrent of a ubuntu operating system
[07:47] <pangolin> old-releases.ubuntu.com sebest
[07:48] <sln45> jay3: Not well versed in these things, mind you. But what is your problem installing it exactly? Or do you still have it?
[07:48] <sebest> pangolin: thanx
[07:48] <pangolin> sebest: you really should consider upgrading
[07:48] <sln45> jay3: Oh, it was something you were installing to make it more like your distro.
[07:48] <auronandace> jay3: we only support ubuntu here
[07:48] <Flannel> jay3: it's not the main software for the root account.  It's the main software for the ROOT numerical analysis framework.
[07:48] <auronandace> !derivatives | jay3
[07:49] <sebest> pangolin: yes i know, but there is a lot of servers to upgrade and we have many custom packages to upgrade too
[07:50] <pangolin> sebest: okie dokie
[07:50] <sln45> soreau: 0.9.4 was the one I installed from the repositories. Is this acceptable?
[07:50] <Flannel> sebest: You should stick to LTS in the future, because you'll get multiple years of support instead of merely 18 months.  But you can move your repos over to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <jay3> haha yep I know that guys its a bit diffrent but its ubuntu just modified is all
[07:51] <Dustin1> Hey dad
[07:51] <prince_jammys> Dustin1: jay3: join #backtrack-linux
[07:51] <sebest> Flannel: we already have moved most of the servers on lucid, but some are harder to upgrade than others :)
[07:51] <soreau> sln45: Like I said, there are a considerable amount of bugs in that version which is why I recommend installing from git
[07:51] <Flannel> sebest: I hear you.
[07:51] <sln45> Flannel: Sure, but it's so frustrating to get news updates on all the fancy things in the new releases. And wouldn't you know that support and effort for and LTS is dropped like a bad habit.
[07:51] <jay3> haha yea that the thing when you use /whois to check channels there in lol
[07:52] <soreau> sln45: It should 'work' nonetheless
[07:52] <sln45> soreau: Okay. I wasn't clear on which you were referring to.
[07:52] <darkstar999> sln45: how does Canonical ensure that devs keep working on LTS?
[07:53] <jay3> yeah that a good question
[07:53] <sln45> darkstar999: Quite frankly, I wouldn't know.
[07:53] <ZekeS> Doesn't canonical pay people to work on ubuntu?
[07:53] <darkstar999> important for servers
[07:54] <ZekeS> Also the debian backbone etc
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> ZekeS: yep
[07:54] <sln45> Yes, they do. They spend a lot of effort on upcoming releases.
[07:54] <ZekeS> plus even kernel devs work on backports and stuff for the lts kernels
[07:54] <joe_> Hi
[07:54] <Flannel> darkstar999: Canonical ensures that Canonical employees continue to support old releases by paying them money.  The rest of the community works on old releases for the same reason they work on new releases, and also the same reason *any* community supports its releases.
[07:55] <sln45> And it feels like when they're done with a release... off they zip to the next project. But my comment was focused on the community
[07:55] <arrrghhh> c'mon guys, this is offtopic.
[07:55] <Flannel> sln45: Canonical is not the community.  But my latter half is relevant.  The same reason any community supports its products for the time it said it would.
[07:55] <sln45> Okay, okay, fair enough.
[07:55] <sln45> Flannel: No, i know that.
[07:55] <soreau> arrrghhh: discussions about ubuntu support are not offtopic here
[07:56] <dr_willis> sln45:  the non lts releases have allways been a bit of an experimenstal testing area  :-)
[07:56] <arrrghhh> soreau, did you read the speculation?  lol
[07:56] <darkstar999> arrrghhh: we are on topic, and there are no support discussions going on right now
[07:56] <arrrghhh> i usually see new posts, and assume there is support discussion going on -_-
[07:57] <sln45> I don't deny it. I just get surprised about how much effort we get into having things perfect in one release, only to jump so quickly to the next.
[07:57] <jay3> lol I foget my old password for nickserv oh well it happenes
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> sln45: Well, then volunteer for backporting and patching duty ;)
[07:57] <linda> sln45: Sounds like you are a good candidate for LTS.
[07:58] <sln45> I mean, on the one hand, that means big issues are fixed really quickly. On the other, niche problems.... and bear in mind niche problems for linux users bother like 5 people... may be ignored
[07:58] <Flannel> sln45: That's why some of us stick to LTS, we want something that allows us to be productive and not mess with new versions.
[07:58] <sln45> Ignored is a strong word. I guess just swept under the current
[07:58] <sln45> Flannel: For sure. This is my bad machine. The other has the LTS
[07:58] <linda> sln45: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[07:58] <dr_willis> manpower is always a limitation
[07:59] <sln45> linda: What is this for?
[07:59] <linda> sln45: LTS is happiness.
[07:59] <sln45> dr_willis: Too true
[07:59] <sebest> Flannel: even LTS is not really a solution because when you have a farm of servers you don't really need to upgrade the whole server
[07:59] <Systemz> Linux!
[07:59] <sln45> linda: This fact is known to me
[07:59] <jay2ab> ok now I got that changed and fixed I will re register with nickserv again here
[07:59] <sln45> Linuz!
[07:59] <sebest> Only some key packages are needed like the kernel and mysql for example on a db server
[07:59] <sln45> *Linux!
[08:00] <Systemz> I enjoy ubuntu, but i use BodhiLinux for the moment.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> sebest: Are you saying you want to be able to upgrade the kernel and mysql without upgrading the rest?
[08:00] <sebest> tonyyarusso: yes
[08:00] <sln45> If something isn't broken, do you need to fix it?
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> sebest: How come?
[08:01] <sln45> Oh God, here come the stones. What I mean is...
[08:01] <sebest> tonyyarusso: i don t really care to have a old version of ps, ls and so on
[08:01] <sln45> What I mean is that Ubuntu's usability is pretty refined, and I think applications and their productivity should absorb the focus.
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> sebest: In English, "don't care to" actually means "do not want to" - I think you mean "I don't care *if* I have an old version of ps, ls, and so on".
[08:02] <sln45> Not that that's really Canonical's duty.
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Silly differences coming out the opposite of what you intended :P
[08:02] <sebest> tonyyarusso: sorry :) but you get the  point
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> sebest: Why do you need the upgrades to the kernel and mysql though?  Trying to understand the business case here.
[08:02] <sln45> Aagh, I was trying to do a thing with compiz. I'm going to stop rambling now.
[08:03] <sebest> tonyyarusso: only for performance and features, like new hardware or improved performance in mysql
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> sebest: Okay, but if you're upgrading major system components, what's the reason *not* to upgrade the little stuff?
[08:04] <sebest> tonyyarusso: let s say you are a big LAMP shop, the only package we really care about are L A M P
[08:04] <aum__> hello everyone, i have installed ubuntu 10.04 command line only, after that i installed xorg, icewm
[08:04] <aum__> Now i want to login graphically automatically not from startx command. please suggest a way to do so...
[08:05] <sln45> Hmm.... Compiz thinks it's my compositing manager, but I see no drop shadows.
[08:05] <sebest> tonyyarusso: because it is a lot of trouble to upgrade from on LTS to another, a lot of things change, for example upstart
[08:05] <ZekeS> aum__: install a display manager of some sort
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> aum__: Pick a display manager, like gdm, xdm, etc.
[08:05] <soreau> aum__: gdm?
[08:05] <sebest> tonyyarusso: upstart is useless for us and only gives us new issues
[08:05] <somsip> aum__: I'd recommend SLiM - very light and simple login manager. LightDM might also be worth looking at
[08:05] <Artemis3> aum__, you could install xdm, lightdm, etc.
[08:05] <sln45> soreau: Still there?
[08:05] <sebest> tonyyarusso: the little things gives you a lot of little issues
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> somsip, Artemis3: I don't think lightdm is in 10.04.
[08:06] <tito_> hey guys! I had fedora 16 (verne) and ubuntu 11.10(oneiric ocelot) installed on my PC. After the kernel upgrade in ubuntu yesterday, there are three entries in grub called "Fedora Release 16 (Verne)
[08:06] <linda> aum__: System -> Preferences -> Login Screen
[08:06] <tito_> I've tried update-grub
[08:06] <tito_> but it doesnt help
[08:06] <somsip> tonyyarusso: I stand corrected, thanks. I'd still go with SLiM above the bloaties though...
[08:06] <Artemis3> very well, slim or xdm should do for a light system
[08:06] <aum__> but i do not want login manager i just want to login automatically ...
[08:06] <soreau> sln45: Do you have window borders?
[08:06] <ZekeS> oooo
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> sebest: I guess that makes some sense.  Are you able to get the packages you need from the backports repository?
[08:07] <linda> aum__: I think you will need to explain more specifically what it is you really want to do.
[08:07] <ZekeS> aum__: there's probably an entry on the ubuntu wiki labeled boot directly into x or some such
[08:07] <sebest> tonyyarusso: most of the time we backport them ourselves
[08:07] <sln45> soreau: That I do, but I don't think I can even get Compiz to be my manager again (though it thinks it is.) Nothing has changed since I turned Metacity's manager off
[08:07] <soreau> sln45: What is the output of 'ps ax|grep compiz|grep -v grep'?
[08:07] <ZekeS> I can link the arch wiki article, but there may be severe differences
[08:07] <linda> aum__: You've taken a bit of an un-orthodox approach to installing, not sure why but maybe you need to explain what it is your trying to do.
[08:08] <tata> can I resize partition ext3 with linux o.s., I mean is it demage my linux?
[08:08] <sebest> tonyyarusso: storing them on an internal reprepro
[08:08] <somsip> aum__: oh - misunderstood. Worht a shot - I've done this on Arch before: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Automatic_login_to_virtual_console
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> sebest: Okay, but do you have to?  If they're already in backports then the functionality you're describing is already available.
[08:08] <tito_> can anyone help? please?
[08:08] <Artemis3> tata, you can, but backup first... gparted does it
[08:08] <sln45> soreau: Wha..... There's no output at all!
[08:08] <soreau> sln45: That means compiz isn't running and thus not managing anything at all
[08:08] <sebest> tonyyarusso: there is no 2.6.38 kernel for karmic or mysql/mariadb/percona 5.5
[08:09] <tata> ok, thank you
[08:09] <sln45> soreau: Ah, I'll fix that then.
[08:09] <somsip> aum__: And 10.04 specific: http://codemonkeytips.blogspot.com/2011/01/howto-enable-console-autologin-on.html
[08:09] <linda> aum__: I guess the question is, what exactly do you want to login to automatically?  The GUI?
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> sebest: Um, of course not.  Karmic is EOL.  There isn't anything for it.
[08:09] <ZekeS> linda: ... that's exactly what he said, yes
[08:09] <soreau> sln45: Try compiz --replace from Alt+F2 run dialog or 'compiz --replace & disown' from a terminal
[08:09] <ZekeS> aum__: You want to look at the /etc/inittab method https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_Boot
[08:10] <aum__> linda, yes i want to start firefox automatically ...
[08:10] <sln45> soreau: That did the trick. Thanks.
[08:10] <sln45> soreau: Continuing with your instructions
[08:10] <ZekeS> aum__: or better yet, use automatic login to virtual console then have the startx in your bash profile so console-kit et al dont break dramatically
[08:10] <sebest> tonyyarusso: the same for lucid
[08:11] <linda> aum__: System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab.
[08:11] <Scarra3> How do you install the PAE Kernel into Ubuntu 11.10 and then remove the stock kernel
[08:11] <aum__> linda , i do not have gnome...
[08:11] <sln45> soreau: compiz-plugins-main is dependent on compiz. It won't go unless compiz goes
[08:11] <linda> aum__: Which window manager are you using?
[08:11] <aum__> icewm
[08:12] <linda> aum__: You may have .autorun  or .autostart or something. Do you see it?
[08:13] <linda> aum__: .icewin/something-or-other....?
[08:13] <somsip> aum__: the URL I gave before will log you in on boot, then instrcutions here will start x on login. then you add entries to .xinitrc (or if icewm supports something else, do it there) to sytart individual programs. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_Boot
[08:13] <linda> aum__: http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-4.html#startup
[08:13] <Gskellig> http://pastebin.com/UWnj4a3k
[08:13] <Gskellig> whats going on here?
[08:13] <soreau> sln45: then just leave it
[08:14] <somsip> Gskellig: you're trying to change directory into a file
[08:15] <Gskellig> its definitely a directory
[08:15] <somsip> Gskellig: pastebin ls -la egg*
[08:16] <Refreze> Hi. I have been experiencing a weird problem lately with 11.10. Every now and then I will get booted to the login screen for no reason and forced to enter in my details. After logging in my previous session is no more. Any ideas?
[08:16] <linda> Gskellig: "eggdrop: Not a directory"
[08:16] <aum__> thanks linda, but firstly i want to login automatically right now i have to login through command line then use the "startx" command
[08:16] <aum__> to get the X session
[08:17] <somsip> aum__: posted that twice for you already
[08:17] <linda> aum__: That's not so hard is it?
[08:17] <sln45> soreau: Alright. Well, Compiz isn't wrecking me as much as I expected, though a little more than I'd like. I guess I can play with it and see if it'll work out okay. Thanks for helping me, it was cool to meet you.
[08:17] <linda> somsip: ls -la egg* |pastebinit
[08:18] <somsip> linda: no thanks
[08:18] <linda> somsip: No problem.
[08:18] <somsip> :)
[08:20] <Gskellig> http://pastebin.com/t7JeyesR
[08:22] <linda> somsip: file eggdrop  |pastebinit
[08:22] <sln45> soreau: Oh God, someting broke and I have to restart my computer.
[08:22] <somsip> linda: should be aimed at Gskellig
[08:22] <linda> o
[08:23] <linda> Gskellig: file eggdrop  |pastebinit
[08:23] <soreau> sln45: What happened?
[08:24] <Gskellig> eggdrop: directory
[08:24] <linda> Gskellig: ls -la eggdrop |pastebinit
[08:25] <Gskellig> same as before?
[08:25] <linda> Gskellig: Maybe you should first tell us where you got this directory (or file that thinks it is a directory).
[08:25] <alecjw> hi, how can i disable power management on my laptop?
[08:26] <linda> Gskellig: And what is supposed to be in it that you need?  (Or need to know about.)
[08:26] <soreau> alecjw: What do you expect disabling power management to do exactly?
[08:26] <daggs-> hello all, I have a question, I've installed kubuntu 10.04 lts and I'd like to install kdevelop from oneiric without upgrading the system, is it doable?
[08:26] <alecjw> soreau: stop it from going into standby whenever i plug in or unplug my charger
[08:26] <soreau> daggs-: Don't even think about it
[08:27] <Scarra3> What does everyone think about 11.10
[08:27] <soreau> alecjw: Which version of ubuntu?
[08:27] <alecjw> lucid
[08:27] <soreau> ! poll | Scarra3
[08:27] <daggs-> soreau: is it that bad of idea?
[08:27] <linda> Gskellig: And if eggdrop is of no use to you, I suppose you could try deleting it.
[08:27] <soreau> alecjw: Have you looked in sys>admin>power management?
[08:27] <soreau> alecjw: sys>prefs>pm
[08:28] <soreau> daggs-: Very
[08:28] <Scarra3> What do I need to do to disable the integrated graphics card and use the one I have in my PCI slot
[08:28] <alecjw> i seem to have this problem with every version of gnome on every laptop - the solution i found was to kill gnome-power-manager, but then i dont get a battery level readout
[08:28] <linda> Scarra3: Most of us think 11.10 is rather cool.  Others think it's rather uncool.  Others are a bit undecided, (like you).
[08:28] <neoplus> Hi,
[08:29] <soreau> daggs-: For one, you never want to mix packages or repos from different distro versions. Two, there have been significant changes in kde from 10.04 to 11.10 and it simply will not do whatever you're wanting it to
[08:29] <somsip> Gskellig: I've seen this before and I remember it was something very simple, but it escapes me. As Linda said: 'file eggdrop' and what's the result?
[08:29] <alecjw> soreau: what am i looking for in there? i think the problem is upower reporting stupid remaining times, like 2 minutes remaining just as i unplug it
[08:29] <daggs-> soreau: I assume that compilng from source is safe right? (without the install of course)
[08:29] <soreau> alecjw: What graphics driver are you using?
[08:29] <Gskellig> file eggdrop gave me eggdrop: directory
[08:30] <alecjw> intel i expect, not sure though
[08:30] <soreau> daggs-: Sure but it's not likely you will succeed because of the massive changes
[08:30] <linda> Gskellig: Where did you get eggdrop?
[08:30] <Scarra3> Linda: Well I stopped using ubuntu after 11.04 when I was having trouble with them, im just trying to figure out if I can get some of my hardware to work I know my graphics card works, but my wireless car is a Netgear WNA1100 and my webcam is a microsoft LifeCam Cinima HD
[08:30] <Gskellig> its a irc bot
[08:30] <Gskellig> http://www.eggheads.org/
[08:31] <linda> Scarra3: You might consider different hardware.
[08:31] <linda> Scarra3: I use LTS mostly
[08:31] <soreau> alecjw: In xorg.conf, you can try something like these options http://pastebin.com/W3vaLjvE
[08:31] <soreau> alecjw: You probably don't have an xorg.conf and will have to create one with said contents
[08:31] <alecjw> soreau: i dont have an xorg.conf, i havent used one since about 2007 :P
[08:31] <soreau> alecjw: time of '0' means never
[08:32] <Scarra3> also can I video chat with skype in ubuntu
[08:32] <linda> Scarra3: It has been my experience that choosing wisely your hardware is a good start.
[08:32] <alecjw> soreau: dont i have to have a complete xorg.conf or nothing?
[08:32] <linda> Scarra3: Sure, you can do video chat with skype.
[08:32] <linda> I do
[08:32] <Scarra3> Ok awesome
[08:33] <neoplus> Hi,
[08:33] <linda> I think skype has been taken out of the repos, but is available from skype.com for LTS
[08:33] <linda> (10.04)
[08:33] <iceroot> linda: should be still in the partner-repo
[08:33] <iceroot> !skype | linda
[08:34] <Scarra3> im just trying to figure out how to do a few things well the graphics card thing and then replacing the ubuntu kernel with the ubuntu PAE kernel so I can use up to 64 GB or ram on x86 OS but I don't know how to remeove the stock kernel
[08:34] <linda> Thanks for the info iceroot  Scarra3
[08:34] <Gskellig> i fixed the weird file/directory problem
[08:34] <Gskellig> I'm not really sure how though
[08:34] <soreau> alecjw: It should respect the settings you put in xorg.conf. The rest it should be able to guess at, just like it does without one
[08:34] <ZekeS> Scarra3: ... > 4 GB of RAM in a 32-bit configuration is quite rare
[08:34] <Gskellig> I removed it then just re added it
[08:34] <linda> Scarra3: There you go... and there is Ekiga
[08:34] <Gskellig> so, didn't really *fix*
[08:35] <ZekeS> Why not just install x64 ubuntu
[08:35] <somsip> Gskellig: well that's all that matters. But I'm sure I've seen the same question before on here...
[08:35] <arrrghhh> ugh, why are all my usb keys cursed
[08:35] <Gskellig> it was really weird
[08:35] <Scarra3> Well I have 6 GB of ram but my system is x64 and I don't like the x64 versions of linux less program compatibility
[08:35] <alecjw> soreau: thanks, im going to try restarting x now
[08:35] <linda> ZekeS: Why is that?  Because people don't want to install RAM?  (I do not understand)
[08:36] <somsip> Gskellig: I searched and found someone on Google with exactly the same problem as you. 6th result on Google. It was you. *way* to quick...
[08:36] <iceroot> Scarra3: what is not running with amd64 but with i386?
[08:36] <ZekeS> Scarra3: fwiw I've never run into a single compatability issue on my 64-bit main pc, even running skype/32-bit flashplugin/wine/etc.
[08:36] <linda> ZekeS: Oh, I see, you mean more than 4G or RAM is rare... well, Ok, I'll buy that
[08:37] <Gskellig> somsip, wait what?
[08:37] <ZekeS> linda: yeah, specifically 4 GB of ram with a 32-bit OS these days :p
[08:37] <linda> ZekeS: But there is no problem with running a 32bit system with >4G ram either.
[08:37] <somsip> Gskellig: nah - just saying that Google farmed your question on pastein within 15 mins...
[08:37] <Gskellig> haha what the heck
[08:37] <iceroot> Scarra3: if the cpu supports amd64 there is not a single reason to use i386
[08:37] <Gskellig> thats hilarious
[08:38] <linda> iceroot: I wouldnt' say that.
[08:38] <alecjw> soreau: nope, didnt make any difference. im fairly sure the problem is with upower reporting the remaining battery life incorrectly
[08:38] <Scarra3> iceroot: ok then ill go with the x64 version but what about my graphics card problem
[08:38] <linda> iceroot: There ARE reasons.
[08:38] <somsip> Gskellig: anyway...good you fixed it. A mystery though
[08:38] <iceroot> linda: like?
[08:39] <linda> iceroot: Software that is not available for 64bit
[08:39] <Hippaforalkus> can it really be right that there are more linux nerds on irc chats than people that actually just chat?!?
[08:39] <llutz_> linda: running 32bit on pc with >4GB is a pointless waiste of RAM
[08:39] <linda> llutz_: Not necessarily
[08:39] <ZekeS> linda: chroot or multilib
[08:39] <llutz_> linda: in every case, even with PAE it is (PAE is crap)
[08:40] <iceroot> linda: amd64 can run i386 software
[08:40] <linda> ZekeS: You are correct, if one is willing to deal with and install a multilib system, yes I agree, you can do anything you want with a 64bit system.  I'll agree with that.
[08:40] <llutz_> Hippaforalkus: on support-channels? yes hopefully
[08:40] <iceroot> linda: also every open-source software is also available as an amd64 built
[08:41] <Hippaforalkus> this one is the channel with most users when i got a channel list
[08:41] <linda> BUT, if one is not dealing with stuff that really needs a 64bit OS, it is a complication that one prolly does not need.
[08:41] <ZekeS> PAE = complication one prolly does not need tbfh
[08:41] <llutz_> Hippaforalkus: this is a support-channel, not for general chat
[08:41] <linda> iceroot: Are you sure?  Last time I checked, that was not the case.
[08:42] <pnorman> I haven't had any complications from using a 64 bit OS. I have had complications using a 32 bit OS
[08:42] <alecjw> oh well, ive got 9am lectures to be at now, bye. thanks for the advice soreau
[08:42] <linda> You can have complications with either.
[08:42] <pnorman> Mainly related to how the heck am I supposed to run this with only 4 GB of ram
[08:42] <linda> Ok, well, this conversation is not leading us to any conclusions, really. so...
[08:43] <linda> Yea, more than 4G is not going to be used that often whether you have 64bit or 32bit os
[08:43] <iceroot> linda: packages maintained from ubuntu are always available for all architectures. they "just" have to built the software for every architecture which is done automaticly by the buildsystem
[08:43] <iceroot> linda: and if you found a software built for 32bit only (like firefox) it will run fine with amd64
[08:44] <pnorman> linda: I go to 8 GB used pretty quickly after startup. I've gone to swap with 16 GB of physical ram
[08:44] <dwarder> how do i make ctrl-c work on other input languages
[08:44] <dwarder> ?
[08:44] <somsip> dwarder: what do you want it to do?
[08:44] <dwarder> to copy
[08:44] <linda> iceroot: 32bit software will only run fine on a 64bit system if you install 32bit libraries.
[08:44] <linda> multiblib
[08:45] <devkorcvince> linda I also have 16GB over kill i7 machine cause I run virtual machines for testing...
[08:45] <iceroot> linda: no
[08:45] <linda> no what?
[08:45] <iceroot> linda: look at firefox for example on amd64 systems
[08:45] <dwarder> somsip: to copy
[08:45] <linda> md64 is different?
[08:45] <iceroot> linda: but even if special libs are needed they come by default,
[08:46] <sln45> soreau: You still there?
[08:46] <linda> but they are needed.
[08:46] <iceroot> linda: so there is no single reason to use i386 anymore when the cpu supports amd64
[08:46] <somsip> dwarder: so you change your input keyboard to a different language and CTRL-C no longer works in the same applications?
[08:46] <linda> simplicity is a reason.
[08:46] <linda> Like I said, if someone is willing to deal with a multilib system, that is fine.
[08:47] <Scarra3> iceroot: So where can I got to find out if my wireless card and webcam work in ubuntu 11.10 x64
[08:47] <dwarder> somsip: yes
[08:47] <dwarder> somsip: well technically it is not ctrl-c anymore
[08:47] <prince_jammys> !hardware | Scarra3
[08:48] <soreau> sln45: Why did you react so hastily?
[08:48] <iceroot> Scarra3: live-cd would give the best answer
[08:48] <sln45> soreau: Huh?
[08:48] <linda> And I'm willing to conceed that it is probably not as difficult as it use to be to install a 64bit system and then try to get 32bit apps to run on it, but you have to admit that a 64bit system is still adding a layer of difficulty on the adverage desktop user.
[08:48] <sln45> soreau: To what?
[08:48] <soreau> sln45: I assume compiz crashed and you had no window borders etc
[08:48] <Scarra3> iceroot: well my wireless card is the Netgear WNA1100 and my webcam is the Microsoft  LifeCam Cinema HD
[08:49] <devkorcvince> linda installing 32bit libs is just simple as inputing sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[08:49] <iceroot> Scarra3: i would suggest to try a live-cd
[08:49] <sln45> soreau: No, the compiz settings manager froze. Er, it thought it was closed, but the window yet filled my screen. Everything is fine now, after two reboots. :\
[08:50] <soreau> sln45: You might want to install compiz-plugins-extra and enable crash handler plugin. Inside, tell it to start a fallback wm and make the command 'metacity --replace'
[08:50] <linda> 64bit has gotten to be probably more easily compatable on Ubuntu, (apparently), but there are still some complications that a desktop can and will run into and this may not be so in the not too distant future. We develope pretty rapidly here in the Ubuntu community.
[08:51] <linda> *that a desktop user can run into
[08:51] <sln45> soreau: I certainly will. But the real irony is that everything but annotate is now working. Annotate is totally ignoring the mouse. The mouse just does its usual mouse thing.
[08:51] <soreau> sln45: What keybinding are you using for it?
[08:52] <Scarra3> ok my wireless card works but it says I have to install the ath9k_htc
[08:52] <Ragnarok> ikonia hey you reckless cocksucker
[08:52] <sln45> soreau: The default, alt + super
[08:52] <soreau> sln45: Alt+Super what?
[08:52] <linda> I'll tell you one thing, it is sitll a prolbem with MS Windows. Lots of legacy hardware will not run on 64bit becasue driver software does not exist - I've seen it with wireless cards on Win7 64bit
[08:52] <sln45> soreau: alt + super + left mouse click
[08:53] <somsip> dwarder: the only things I can find would involve editing your keyboard layout, or running a separate script after changing keyboard layouts to remap the keys you want. I don't have a solution for you.
[08:53] <linda> The situation is probably better here than on win7 (in respect to 64bit compatability).
[08:53] <soreau> Scarra3: It's already installed.. check 'lsmod|grep ath' to see if it's loaded. If not, load it with 'sudo modprobe ath9k_htc'
[08:53] <hiexpo> hey linda thanks for the help earlier i guess i should have plugged some headphones in before > this lappy has defaulty speakers
[08:53] <soreau> sln45: It should work
[08:53] <Browser> hi
[08:53] <sln45> soreau: I know that much. That's why I came to you.
[08:53] <linda> hiexpo: NP
[08:54] <sln45> soreau: Worked a year ago, for sure.
[08:54] <sln45> soreau: As someone who helped improve that function, do you have any thoughts?
[08:55] <Scarra3> soreau: So I should disable the integrated graphics card in the bios then plug in the new one in the PCI Express Slot , Install Ubuntu, then install drivers
[08:56] <soreau> sln45: worksforme even with default compiz 0.9.4
[08:56] <sln45> soreau: I'm sure. But neither the touchscreen nor the mousepad are doing anything.
[08:56] <soreau> Scarra3: The drivers should auto-load if you disable the onboard card and install one in a PCI slot
[08:56] <dwarder> somsip: thanks
[08:57] <hiexpo> is there a way to kill the touchpad on my laptop linda
[08:57] <Scarra3> Well its a NVIDIA GeForce 210 and I was gonna install the drivers from NVIDIA website
[08:57] <sln45> soreau: They each just select an area or click something. The function isn't activated at all. The windows key is the super key, right?
[08:57] <hamed> hamed
[08:57] <JadedJacob> Hi, I'm wanting to back up my windows 7 partition, is this possible using a ubuntu live CD.
[08:57] <hamed> salam
[08:57] <soreau> sln45: yes
[08:57] <sln45> soreau: Oh, hey, maybe my super's the problem. Hold on.
[08:58] <soreau> sln45: Maybe try the other set of Super+Alt buttons
[08:58] <hamed> اینجا باید فقط از لینوکس حرف زد؟
[08:58] <JadedJacob> I have 2 partitions, one for the OS (80GB) and one for storage (420GB)
[08:58] <sln45> soreau: Other set? I have but the one.
[08:58] <soreau> Scarra3: Oh, I thought you were talking wifi chips
[08:58] <sln45> soreau: Tiny keyboard
[08:59] <sln45> soreau: Fits my little hands
[08:59] <hamed> ایرانی نیست اینجا؟
[08:59] <Scarra3> soreau: no my graphics card lol
[08:59] <soreau> sln45: Ah, well maybe try setting it to a different binding like Ctrl+Button1 or something
[08:59] <arrrghhh> !ir | hamed
[08:59] <sln45> soreau: Sure. One sec
[09:00] <hamed> برو بابا
[09:00] <soreau> Scarra3: In that case, it will likely load the nouveau driver by default. You'd have to install the nvidia proprietary drivers if you want to use them, but I'd recommend trying the ubuntu packaged version first
[09:00] <hamed> حوصله داریا
[09:00] <Scarra3> soreau: Why?
[09:00] <sln45> soreau: Zip. How do I debug this function?
[09:00] <soreau> Scarra3: Because installing from the nvidia website can break stuff since the package manager doesn't know what you're doing
[09:01] <arrrghhh> hamed, i'm sorry if i didn't guess the language correctly, but english only here please.
[09:01] <soreau> Scarra3: You'd have to reinstall them every kernel upgrade and manage them manually
[09:01] <sln45> arrrghhh: Try Farsi
[09:01] <Scarra3> Oh so everytime I update the kernel I have to reinstall the drivers?
[09:02] <arrrghhh> sln45, that's the one i guessed lol
[09:02] <JadedJacob> anyone?
[09:02] <sln45> arrrghhh: Arabic then?
[09:02] <EvaStroll> hi, i've a trouble, i've ubuntu 11.04 64 bit with virtualbox 4.1.2, two virtual machine one with windows xp and one with windows server 2008. every two virtual machine network interface are attached by bridge interface on the same physical card. when  windows2008 estabilish a tcp connection with other terminal on the net, it lose some packet (bad checksum) any have idea ?
[09:02] <arrrghhh> sln45, dunno how to make ubottu do that one
[09:02] <sln45> arrrghhh: me neither
[09:02] <arrrghhh> lol
[09:03] <sln45> I can say good morning to the guy
[09:03] <sln45> and thank you and some other pleasantries
[09:03] <pnorman> JadedJacob: Backing up the data from windows should be doable - but if you want to make a backup you an boot off of, windows tends to be a pain to move from drive to drive
[09:03] <arrrghhh> just don't curse at him :P
[09:03] <sln45> The word for "where" is a letter off from a curse word.
[09:03] <soreau> sln45: Try running compiz --replace in your terminal and look for related messages
[09:03] <dwarder> блять
[09:03] <Driiper> Hello! Do anyone know if they introduced some kinda "Sleep" function to 11.10 (Server). when my server stands inactive for some hours/days it i can no longer access it, it takes like 10 minutes for it to reappear to the internetz.
[09:04] <dwarder> oops
[09:04] <soreau> sln45: Or pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep compiz' to pastebin.com
[09:04] <jud> what's the beginners group called?
[09:04] <pnorman> off to bed for me. got enough computational jobs queued up to keep my room warm overnight
[09:05] <soreau> sln45: After restarting ccsm, does annotate remain enabled?
[09:05] <sln45> soreau:http://paste.ubuntu.com/746809/
[09:05] <sln45> soreau: One sec
[09:06] <sln45> soreau: It does
[09:06] <soreau> sln45: remove compiz-fusion-bcop for starters
[09:07] <JadedJacob> hmmmm.
[09:07] <soreau> sln45: then in ccsm>Preferences, do Reset to Defaults (while metacity is running) and then reconfigure compiz. Also make sure FlatFile backend is selected there
[09:07] <jud> beginner here..so, to run this '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root, I run 'sudo//etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'?
[09:08] <JadedJacob> pnorman: so I can't just clone the windows partition windows7.img, and then expect to be able to convert windows7.img back to a partition and for windows to boot?
[09:08] <EvaStroll> hi, i've a trouble, i've ubuntu 11.04 64 bit with virtualbox 4.1.2, two virtual machine one with windows xp and one with windows server 2008. every two virtual machine network interface are attached by bridge interface on the same physical card. when  windows2008 estabilish a tcp connection with other terminal on the net, it lose some packet (bad checksum) but the packets aren't lose on the ubuntu interface any have i
[09:08] <EvaStroll> dea ?
[09:08] <soreau> sln45: If ~/.compiz-1 exists, get rid of it too
[09:08] <somsip> jud: need some spaces in there - sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[09:09] <pnorman> JadedJacob: I haven't tried that, so I'm not sure. I just know that when moving windows from drive to drive, expect things to go badly.
[09:09] <jud> space after sudo..that's it? cheers!
[09:09] <somsip> jud: and one less / after sudo...sudo /etc/init....
[09:10] <jud> cool
[09:10] <sln45> soreau: Is flatfile backend a plugin? Where am I supposed to see it?
[09:10] <soreau> sln45: same place you Reset to Defaults
[09:11] <Driiper> Hello! Do anyone know if they introduced some kinda "Sleep" function to 11.10 (Server). when my server stands inactive for some hours/days it i can no longer access it, it takes like 10 minutes for it to reappear to the internetz.
[09:11] <Scarra3> soreau: How do I know if the defualt drivers are working properly?
[09:11] <soreau> Scarra3: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[09:11] <Scarra3> I haven't installed ubuntu yet
[09:12] <soreau> well that would be a first step
[09:12] <sln45> soreau: Done! Now I try it?
[09:12] <soreau> Scarra3: If they're working, you should be able to use compiz at least
[09:12] <Scarra3> Kk
[09:12] <Scarra3> thx again
[09:12] <soreau> sln45: Did you reconfigure ccsm and re-enable all necessary plugins?
[09:12] <Scarra3> be back in a few I need to finish downloading ubuntu 11.10 x64
[09:13] <sln45> soreau: Er, I reset it if that's what you mean. Is there something specific I must enable besides annotate?
[09:13] <soreau> sln45: Yes, all the plugins I mentioned earlier
[09:14] <sln45> soreau: I suppose I missed that list.
[09:14] <soreau> sln45: In ccsm, disable everything except Move, Resize, Window Decoration, Application Switcher, Gnome Compatibility and Place Windows (and of course Annotate)
[09:14] <soreau> sln45: conversely, enable those plugins^^
[09:15] <sln45> soreau: Right
[09:15] <christina> ok I removed my HDD from cabinet and then  i put usb drive and  tried to install ubuntu from that to usb drive but setup stopped because of bad cd and now when i try to bot winodws from HDD then it is giving me BOOTMGR missing error and windows aint booting
[09:16] <soreau> christina: That's a question for #windows really, but you'll basically need to restore your boot loader from the windows installation cd
[09:16] <soreau> restore_mbr or something
[09:17] <christina> but why it happens when i tried to install ubuntu in usb drive and that too when HDD was removed form pc
[09:17] <soreau> christina: That's a good question. Maybe windows sucks ;)
[09:17] <christina> :-(
[09:18] <sln45_> soreau: Ugh... everything crashed.
[09:19] <soreau> sln45: Did you enable crash handler with the fallback wm of metacity?
[09:19] <sln45_> soreau: I was going to, but I was in the process of disabling and enabling according to that list.
[09:19] <soreau> sln45_: I told you to do that while metacity was running
[09:19] <sln45_> soreau: What??
[09:20] <sln45_> soreau: Ugh.
[09:20] <sln45_> soreau: You said it long after I had already been looking at the compiz-settings-manager
[09:21] <soreau> sln45_: anyway, when compiz crashes you can just go to tty and run 'DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace'
[09:21] <soreau> then switch back to X
[09:21] <sln45_> soreau: Okay. But when things crashed before, I lost the list of things you'd been saying.
[09:21] <soreau> sln45_: That means your IRC cleint sucks ;)
[09:21] <soreau> client*
[09:22] <sln45_> soreau: So what plugins + how can I set metacity as a fallback?
[09:22] <soreau> sln45_: Do yourself a favor and use a real client like xchat instead of the web interface
[09:22] <sln45_> soreau: I hardly know how to use irc, honestly. I use webchat.freenode.net
 sln45_: You might want to install compiz-plugins-extra and enable crash handler plugin. Inside, tell it to start a fallback wm and make the command 'metacity --replace'
[09:23] <sln45_> soreau: When my boyfriend is back for Winter break, it's the first thing I'll ask him, i promise.
[09:23] <sln45_> soreau: Okay
 sln45_: In ccsm, disable everything except Move, Resize, Window Decoration, Application Switcher, Gnome Compatibility and Place Windows (and of course Annotate)
[09:23] <soreau> That's the last time I'll repeat it
[09:24] <sln45_> soreau: Fair enough. You've been more than patient.
[09:24] <soreau> sln45_: Ask him what? xchat is easy to install..
[09:25] <sln45_> soreau: How to use IRC. It baffles me. I have an easier time playing with C than I do with this, and I have zero background in programming.
[09:26] <soreau> sln45_: xchat is very easy to use. just apt-get install it and ubuntu channel is the default I believe
[09:26] <sln45_> soreau: Anyway, I really appreciate all your help, honest. But I have to call it a night. I've been sick for like three days, I'll try what you said in full later and hope it goes well, otherwise I'll pop into the forums.
[09:27] <sln45_> soreau: Thanks so much
[09:27] <soreau> sln45_: pop into #compiz, it's easier to chat there
[09:28] <sln45_> soreau: Oh, perfect. That's exactly what I'll do. Gosh, I really should have done that in the first place
[09:28] <soreau> sln45_: have a good night, I'm out too
[09:28] <sln45_> soreau: You too, you too.
[09:30] <Phoenix_> hey
[09:30] <Phoenix_> anyone good with gnu license here?
[09:30] <iceroot> Phoenix_: #gnu
[09:32] <proxx> hi all
[09:34] <JadedJacob> Hi.
[09:34] <JadedJacob> I resized my windows 7 partition to setup free space to install ubuntu, now windows 7 won't boot
[09:34] <JadedJacob> Using ubuntu and gparted
[09:35] <mmv> jasonmsp: that's a good thing
[09:35] <jennie> why should i install ubuntu, I am pirated windows user
[09:36] <proxx> jennie; have fun bye bye
[09:36] <jennie> wrong answer
[09:36] <jennie> LOl
[09:37] <proxx> jennie; this is a support channel >> ubuntu-offtopic
[09:38] <jennie> proxx another problem is this , i downloaded ubuntu from website and burn to cd and now when i try to install then installation is giving read error in cd
[09:38] <jennie> should i try  new cd ?
[09:38] <proxx> jennie, yes
[09:38] <proxx> also do a md5 check
[09:38] <dr_willis> check md5 of the iso and cd
[09:38] <JadedJacob> I'm glad I did with no data on it.
[09:38] <dr_willis> !md5
[09:43] <toumbo> Hi people!I just removed my nvdia propetiary driver and I cannot login to my ubuntu desktop anymore.What should i do?
[09:43] <jennie> where is MD5 code of ubuntu, whom i will compare the downloaded file
[09:44] <hiexpo> jennie, usually it is in the iso  but where you downloaded it from also
[09:44] <jennie> i have ubuntu torrent in my pc from ubuntu.com
[09:45] <jennie> i have iso
[09:45] <proxx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:45] <hiexpo> jennie, than the md5sum is at there site
[09:45] <dr_willis> torrents also have a verify feature.
[09:45] <proxx> the link is above, next time just use google
[09:46] <jennie> ok thANks a lot
[09:46] <jennie> i got it all
[09:46] <dr_willis> then theres a verify option when you boot the cd i think
[09:48] <proxx> jennie: your welcome
[09:48] <dr_willis> ive used torrents to fix bad iso files in the past also.
[09:48] <proxx> he did
[09:49] <elzoog> Can anyone help me fix my sound?   I was trying to upgrade musescore (among other things) and now I have no sound.
[09:49] <proxx> its offtopic, high download speeds also appear to break files, at least i have with 60mbit connection
[09:49] <dr_willis> speed kills  :-)
[09:50] <elzoog> Can anyone help?
[09:51] <Joeby> I just gots a full degree in computer science. All y'all cans asks me stuffs
[09:51] <Stratisphere> hi all
[09:51] <Joeby> Hi pappy
[09:51] <Stratisphere> anyone around for a bit of licensing advice?
[09:52] <Joeby> Stratisphere, no, but I'll offer an opinion
[09:52] <Stratisphere> work in education and just come across a company that provides a monitoring solution
[09:52] <Flannel> Stratisphere: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for that
[09:52] <jennie> proxx , please explain what you said ""proxx	its offtopic, high download speeds also appear to break files, at least i have with 60mbit connection""
[09:52] <K|nG> Hi there can someone tell me How I can write something without using nano just from Terminal example single line ??
[09:53] <cYmen> echo "hello" > filename.txt
[09:53] <Joeby> K|nG, little program called "vim"
[09:53] <Stratisphere> typical server-client structure, the server is running ubuntu and a number of other open source projects but there is no kind of decleration on their website about it. No credit or anything
[09:53] <Stratisphere> ah rite, okat Flannel
[09:53] <proxx> jennie, when i download files at max speed, i often have to download files 3 times to get the checksum right, but this is offtopic as i said.
[09:53] <K|nG> Joeby: Nop I want to write without using any EDITOR :A just example type commant and create a document with one line on it understand ??
[09:54] <Pumpkin-> "echo SOMETEXT > file.txt"
[09:54] <Joeby> K|nG, I understand you have hostility towards vim
[09:54] <K|nG> Pumpkin-: THANKS you verymuch :Q
[09:54] <proxx> touch example && echo "hi" >> example
[09:55] <SolarisBoy1> echo "hi" > example
[09:55] <K|nG> Prothon: thank you :Q
[09:56] <SolarisBoy1> omg im blind as a bat
[09:57] <gregu> Hi. Can anyone tell me where are "additional" logs for update-manager? After update I can't login to my system. I type my password and it's going back to gdm screen.
[09:57] <gaelfx> I have an asus eee pc 1001p and after installing 11.10, I've realised that the mic doesn't work. What's more, the device in sound settings says analog stereo duplex when I know it should be digital. How ca I fix this?
[09:58] <Joeby> gaelfx, install a version known to work with the mike
[09:58] <proxx> gregu:  cat /var/log/apt/history.log  here is the apt log
[10:00] <proxx> gregu; dunno if it helps
[10:00] <vibhav> hi guys
[10:00] <Joeby> proxx, wb
[10:00] <JadedJacob> partimage looks really good, anyone used it
[10:01] <proxx> Joeby; ty
[10:01] <proxx> :)
[10:01] <gregu> I see there Linux kernel was updated, so I have removed fglrx drivers (dpkg -P fglrx*), copied /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0 to xorg.conf and still got problems
[10:01] <Joeby> JadedJacob, many times
[10:01] <gregu> Can't login
[10:01] <gregu> what the ...?
[10:01] <daggs-> I've installed python-ply but import lex fails on python, what am I missing? (using 10.04.3)
[10:01] <theadmin> gregu: Try deleting the xorg.conf completely, it will make X auto-configure itself.
[10:02] <Joeby> JadedJacob, it works as advertised if that's your question
[10:02] <Guest90990> eyyyy
[10:03] <Guest90990> ssdfdsssdsssfdfsfs
[10:03] <Joeby> Guest90990, hey Fonzie
[10:04] <gregu> theadmin: I think it have problems with mounting /home with ecryptfs after kernel update
[10:04] <gregu> while gdm starts, it seems to be everything ok with xorg
[10:05] <gregu> don't know
[10:07] <proxx> gregu; so what is your problem? you can get into gdm, but cant login ?>
[10:07] <gregu> proxx: exactly.
[10:07] <gregu> after update
[10:08] <proxx> gregu; can you log in from TTY ?
[10:08] <gregu> proxx: yes
[10:08] <proxx> can you ls ?
[10:08] <gregu> but /home isn't mounted
[10:08] <gregu> yes
[10:08] <bazZzti> does anybody know if it is possible to install firefox on xbmc live?
[10:08] <proxx> gregu; oke, i see so you can actually see and read files ?
[10:09] <gregu> proxx: yes, if I login I can read and write files on root partition /, but /home isn't mounted (ecryptfs)
[10:09] <proxx> gregu; oke, can you manually mount your drive ?
[10:11] <gregu> proxx: if I do that, it says that /home is already mounted, but I can only see "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and "README.txt" in my $HOME
[10:11] <proxx> gregu; oke that sucks
[10:12] <gregu> so it seems to be problem with ecryptfs which doesny decrypt my data after login
[10:12] <gregu> and question is why?
[10:12] <proxx> gregu; I have to admit that i know to little about encrypted drives to give you good advice, can only guess
[10:13] <User77> hi to everybody-
[10:14] <Xribo> /Backtrack
[10:14] <bazZzti> hi
[10:14] <bluesign> how can I change ulimit (open files limit) for every user in ubuntu ?
[10:17] <d34d1y> Anyone know why my cursor theme only works in firefox?
[10:19] <gregu> ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase gives error when I type my password, but with that password I can login to my system
[10:19] <gregu> what's wrong?
[10:19] <d34d1y> Are you typing with numpad?
[10:19] <Scarra3> God ubuntu 11.10 x64 is downloading so slowly
[10:20] <proxx> Scarra3; try torrent
[10:20] <Scarra3> I have and it still at 0.00%
[10:20] <Sjimmie> Scarra3: install it and it's even slower
[10:20] <proxx> lol
[10:20] <theadmin> lol true true
[10:20] <Scarra3> I have 2 networks one is throttled the other one is fine but now I can't even torrent on that one
[10:21] <proxx> Scarra3; whats ur MTU ?
[10:21] <Scarra3> MTU?
[10:22] <proxx> maximum transmission unit
[10:22] <Scarra3> IDK how to tell that
[10:23] <gemunu> I'm running ubuntu 10.04.3 and wanna install GUI grub. Will startup manager does this to me on grub 1.9*. or any alternate?
[10:23] <theadmin> gemunu: There's no such thing as a "GUI grub".
[10:24] <gemunu> burg?
[10:24] <proxx> >> nm-applet >> edit connections >> edit "auto"
[10:24] <theadmin> gemunu: burg is close to that, yeah, but I heard it's broken
[10:25] <Scarra3> proxx: Im in windows that's why im trying to download ubuntu
[10:25] <gemunu> theadmin : any solution. I got a lot of lines of kernel versions on my GRUB.
[10:25] <theadmin> gemunu: You need to remove older kernels
[10:26] <proxx> Scarra3; ow omg, hehe thats what i thought at first, than i thought nah he means, the download speeds are slow lol
[10:26] <proxx> Scarra3; as i said use the torrent
[10:26] <gemunu> I ve done that with ubuntu tweek. but its still there.
[10:26] <Scarra3> I said that my network isn't letting me for some reason
[10:26] <proxx> Scarra3; good luck with that, not gonna support windows here
[10:27] <nils_> when booting I get "mountall: plymouth command failed". Is there a log for mountall and this boot stuff somewhere?
[10:27] <proxx> try another mirror
[10:27] <pangolin> Scarra3: ##windows may be able to help you
[10:27] <pangolin> Scarra3: there is also ##networking you can try perhaps
[10:28] <Scarra3> Brb ill switch to another network and see if that works
[10:28] <varikonniemi> hello, i am once again having problems with a package being held back at apt-get upgrade. Last time i was told to use dist-upgrade and it fixed it, now it also holds back. What now?
[10:28] <gemunu> theadmin: I removed them by using ubuntu-tweek.Its 1.32 or something like that. but there are two kernel versions still out there. 1.35 ,1.36
[10:28] <gemunu> no 2.36
[10:29] <theadmin> gemunu: Err, there's no 1.x kernel unless you're from times around 1990's...
[10:29] <proxx> varikonniemi; did you try apt-get autoclean    >> apt-get clean ?
[10:29] <gemunu> theadmin sry 2.*
[10:29] <skypent> how would I go about clearing my DNS cache in ubuntu?
[10:30] <gunfire007> guys over here what's the battery backup you get on Nvidia optimus technology ?
[10:30] <varikonniemi> proxx, no
[10:30] <proxx> gunfire007 ; backup ? you mean saving ?
[10:31] <proxx> varikonniemi; please try that and rerun update
[10:31] <varikonniemi> proxx, did and did not help
[10:31] <gunfire007> proxx: ya
[10:32] <proxx> gunfire007; saves you a lot of battery , from my own experience + 1 hour at least on my pc
[10:32] <varikonniemi> can i see the reason why a package is "not upgraded" ?
[10:32] <gemunu> theadmin: I ve made a mistake there.Its 2.6.32-33 which I removed. but still *35 and *36 out there on the grub.
[10:32] <theadmin> gemunu: Which one of these do you use?
[10:32] <gemunu> 36
[10:33] <gemunu> theadmin: *.36
[10:33] <proxx> gunfire007; do you have a machine with optimus now ?
[10:33] <theadmin> gemunu: Okay, then sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-2.6.35* or something like that...
[10:33] <gunfire007> proxx: i am having netbook with optimus
[10:33] <gunfire007> just bought it 2 days back...
[10:34] <gemunu> ok. thanks
[10:34] <proxx> gunfire007; you should use bumblebee for many reasons,
[10:34] <skypent> Anyone know how to clear a DNS cache?
[10:34] <proxx> gunfire007; gives you nvidia support to some extend + battery                    optimus is not officially supported, THANK YOU NVIDIA NOT!
[10:35] <gunfire007> proxx: i think i should give a try to it...
[10:36] <proxx> gunfire007; it runs fine on my machine , make sure to use the PPA :)
[10:36] <Amr0d> Is there anything similar to a Windows Terminal Server where people have their own desktops etc.?
[10:36] <Fudge> hi in regards to grub-update and grub-install, i have lucid on a partition and moved oneiric to another with gparted copy. now i have to use a cd to boot grub from hard drive, i thought after mount -o bind proc sys dev to my lucid partition then chrooting... i could grub-install /dev/sda and grup-update. but i am missing a step. what is the step i am missing?
[10:36] <varikonniemi> hmm, now i found out something relating to why the package is kept back
[10:37] <varikonniemi> spring : Depends: spring-common (= 84.0~11.10~ppa1) but 83.0~11.10~ppa2 is to be installed -- what does it mean?
[10:37] <gunfire007> proxx: can you give some link to it ??
[10:38] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Try this: sudo aptitude install spring (aptitude works better than apt-get most of the time)
[10:38] <Joeby> does it now
[10:38] <proxx> gunfire007; uhm no :P >> google ?
[10:38] <proxx> gunfire007; wait
[10:38] <proxx> gunfire007; i meant the ironhide project
[10:39] <gunfire007> ok which project i should go for ironhide or bumblebee ?
[10:39] <proxx> ironhide
[10:39] <jangirke_> hi how can I use a secure tunnel to a dns server?
[10:40] <jangirke_> *on ubuntu
[10:40] <Joeby> jangirke_, you could ssh tunnel it
[10:40] <varikonniemi> theadmin, aptitude tries to removbe some 100 packages including flashplugin and gcc and so on.. :P
[10:40] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Doesn't sound well... Don't listen to it
[10:41] <varikonniemi> n
[10:41] <iceroot> jangirke_: isnt there ssl for dns?
[10:41] <abhijit> where is the channelf or avant window manager?
[10:41] <iceroot> !alis | abhijit
[10:42] <abhijit> ok
[10:42] <gunfire007> proxx: ok
[10:43] <gunfire007> proxx: does it provide power management
[10:43] <proxx> gunfire007; yes, on or off :P
[10:43] <Anon12832> http://occupyto.org/livestream/ - LIVE POLICE EVICTION OF OCCUPIERS IN TORONTO IN MOMENTS - | timer 1 1 quit http://occupyto.org/livestream/ LIVE POLICE EVICTION IN MOMENTS
[10:44] <gunfire007> than it's cool i should try ironhide than...
[10:44] <jangirke_> Joeby: Thanks for the help
[10:44] <proxx> gunfire007; its off by default and powered on when you actually use it e.g.       "optirun64 glxgears"
[10:44] <jangirke_> her for the others on the channel how to ssl tunnel to a dns server http://zarb.org/~gc/html/udp-in-ssh-tunneling.html
[10:45] <jangirke_> *here
[10:45] <gunfire007> proxx: this would  be really enhancing the battery charge cycle right ?
[10:45] <proxx> gunfire007; this way a new X server instance is ran inside the current X server ,, after you kill it the card goes down
[10:45] <jennie> i downloaded this ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386 checked MD5 and then burned to one more cd and still it is giving RETRY error in installation :-(
[10:45] <proxx> gunfire007; it really does yes, a lot actually, the nvidia chip sucks battery even when its not used :)
[10:45] <gunfire007> cool
[10:45] <varikonniemi> theadmin, so i can assume this is a problem by the packager, and not on my end?
[10:46] <KamZou> Hello, i've a problem with my DHCP... I'd like infinite leases to my clients...(I set up : default-lease-time infinite; ...) . The "ends" entry in my .leases file show Year 2147 ... So ... Good, but when i restart the dhcpd daemon, the "Ends" entry show thah the lease is valid until 24h later only ... So i've a problem. Could you help me ?
[10:46] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Yeah...
[10:47] <proxx> KamZou; couldnt you try giving them a static lease ?? based on mac. ?
[10:47] <proxx> KamZou; dont remember how though
[10:49] <KamZou> proxx, for specific needs in my company i can't fix (directly on computers/servers the IP ... Or by the Fixed (host..) directive in dhcpd.conf)
[10:50] <jangirke_> I guess that is not what I am looking for.
[10:51] <jangirke_> I want to use a secure tunnel to  a DNS server like google or openDNS
[10:52] <Driiper> Hello! Do anyone know if they introduced some kinda "Sleep" function to 11.10 (Server). when my server stands inactive for some hours/days it i can no longer access it, it takes like 10 minutes for it to reappear to the internetz.
[10:53] <proxx> KamZou; and if you make the lease time ridiculously long say 10 years ?
[10:54] <radu_dude> pls help!!! dual display, flash full screen problem!!! ps help for fix or replace flash!!!! searching forum for 3 days now!!! and still no fix!!!
[10:54] <proxx> radu_dude; known issue, go throw a molotov at the adobe labs
[10:54] <IcePhoenix> hey
[10:54] <IcePhoenix> where can i download boobuntu from?
[10:54] <gaelfx> ok, I've figured out how to get my mic working for Audacity, however, I can't select the same device in Skype nor pavucontrol, how can I fix this?
[10:54] <radu_dude> proxx; can i replace flash with somthing else
[10:55] <radu_dude> ????
[10:55] <optimusM> what if i accidently put a file inside the root folder
[10:55] <optimusM> how do i move it to my home folder
[10:55] <IcePhoenix> ikonia, i found a pic of your mom in boobuntu wallpapers
[10:55] <IcePhoenix> wtf
[10:55] <gaelfx> optimusM: man mv should tell you how to do it
[10:56] <gaelfx> optimusM: and you'll need to use sudo to move it probably (so "sudo mv [options]"
[10:57] <geoffmcc> optimusM: sudo mv filename /home/user/directory
[10:57] <lilleman> My sound on flash and rhythmbox stopped working with the last update of 11.10. It works fine in smplayer. Please help :)
[10:57] <gaelfx> why can't the dialog box in empathy grow beyond one line?
[10:57] <jennie> I want to install ubuntu in usb drive and i do not want dual boot , so if cd aint working then can i do this , extract the ISO to usb and then install it in same USB from USB ?
[10:57] <proxx> radu_dude no not really, have you upgraded to the latest flash ?
[10:57] <optimusM> ok ill try that thank you
[10:57] <luist> how big is a 10.04 mirror?
[10:57] <radu_dude> yes
[10:57] <optimusM> i install ubunutu into virtualbox
[10:57] <radu_dude> proxx; latest update and flsh aid
[10:58] <proxx> radu_dude; coz since a short while, i can use utube on my dual screen , an max on both, but this is on my intel drivers
[10:58] <abhijit> hi. how do i add aps to awn in gnome3? help
[10:58] <proxx> radu_dude; heavily depends on the type of player u use
[10:58] <radu_dude> proxx; i have nvidia gt 9800gt latest drivers
[10:59] <luist> where can i find an rsync server to make a mirror of ubuntu 10.04?
[10:59] <lilleman> The volume control shows sound activity, but n othing comes to my speakers...
[10:59] <proxx> radu_dude; i think your out of luck, is this with all players ??, such a jws, or megavideo ?
[11:00] <gaelfx> lilleman: are you sure you have the right device selected? if you have input selected, then it's outputting to a dummy output
[11:00] <lilleman> gaelfx: There, found it. Switched from HDMI to "Internal Audo Analog Stereo". Very crappy update to f*ck up my settings :/
[11:01] <lilleman> thanks for the help tho :)
[11:01] <radu_dude> proxx; only flsh
[11:01] <gaelfx> lilleman: yeah, no problem, I'm dealing with a bum mic right now, so audio's on my mind
[11:02] <KamZou> proxx, i've just tryed to set a 50 years lease : default-lease-time 1576800000; When i restart the dhcpd daemon i've this error : dhcpd: write_lease: unable to write lease 10.34.100.118
[11:02] <proxx> radu_dude; what iam trying to say is that this is a flash problem ( thus trow molotov at adobe) but some players, that are based on flash do magically work, try other online videos, thats what iam saying.
[11:02] <radu_dude> proxx; ok thx
[11:04] <proxx> KamZou; weird, i didnt use dhcpd for a long time so im a bit clueless here
[11:04] <gaelfx> empathy suuuuuuucks, I want pidgin back like in the good old days
[11:05] <nils_> gaelfx: you can just keep on using pidgin though...
[11:05] <tuxnani> hi, I get some stack related error these days and most of the work that I wrote, gets lost
[11:05] <tuxnani> any error/bug?
[11:05] <gaelfx> Using audacity, I can find and use my mic, but I can't find or use it in sound settings, how can I fix that?
[11:06] <gaelfx> nils_: yeah, but I'd rather force everyone to use it by default :D
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> gaelfx  only in audacity? if not, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[11:10] <Koenigsegg> Is there a way to find the window type or something for f.ex the screen locked window? I would really like to exclude it from some rules in ccsm..
[11:11] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: well, to be fair, I haven't tried others, but only Audacity lets me select the appropriate device, Skype can only use pulse server
[11:11] <gaelfx> seriously, why does empathy not expand the input box beyond one line?
[11:14] <dibbsy> hi
[11:15] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: totally weird thing, I can't change the selection at all in sound recorder, but sound recorder picks up sound from the mic as well
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> gaelfx  try audacious
[11:16] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: I thought audacious was for playing sounds, not recording them?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> gaelfx  you're right, i mix the two, sorry
[11:17] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: no problem, happens to everyone
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> webcam tool cheese has sound recording integrated, try that
[11:18] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: good call
[11:27] <Ehsan264> Hi I have a bash scripting Question.I know that ` ` can be used instead of $() and () can be used instead of expr so why can I use $(($x + $y)) and also `expr $x + $y` but I cant used `($x + $y)`
[11:27] <bobtheblueberry> hey
[11:27] <bobtheblueberry> is there a channel for bash scripting?
[11:28] <Ehsan264> ow I dont know
[11:28] <Ehsan264> shall I ask this in a different channel?
[11:28] <bobtheblueberry> I dont know how to make a label for a while loop, silly me
[11:28] <szal> probably #bash or ##bash (/me is in neither, so it's on you to find the correct one)
[11:28] <geoffmcc> bobtheblueberry: #bash i think
[11:28] <bobtheblueberry> thanks
[11:29] <Ehsan264> ok sry guys
[11:29] <Ehsan264> buy
[11:30] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: well, cheese also fails, and not just on the mic front either
[11:33] <Sifrazooy> I have a problem with kubuntu after last update the system don't want to startup any chance that i could remove last updated program
[11:33] <dury> hi there channel :)
[11:34] <quick-> hey i ma getting this error ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) while configuring error for Ldap please hel p
[11:35] <crizzy> == wrong username or password
[11:35] <Sifrazooy> people plz someone help me i want to remove last updated program
[11:36] <quick-> Sifrazooy: wat was ur last updated program ?
[11:36] <quick-> crizzy: i didnt got you
[11:36] <Sifrazooy> quick : actually that's what i want
[11:36] <dury> what's the package to install an application that it's a red line you do it with the mouse in combination with Alt, or Ctrl keys... you know what I mean?
[11:36] <rtaylor> there's a lot of freaking people in here
[11:36] <tuxnani> these days my ubuntu machine goes into some freezed mode woth some terminal like structure, anyone else has such problem?
[11:37] <solid_liq> how do you keep ubuntu from trying to automount a usb device?
[11:37] <gaelfx> I just tried to run apt-get autoremove (because I just installed and removed cheese), but it didn't remove anything, even though I know cheese installed a bunch of extra packages that aren't necessary. How can I get them removed??
[11:38] <Sifrazooy> isn't there any method that i can know last updated program
[11:39] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: apt-get --purge remove <package>
[11:39] <crizzy> Sifrazooy: /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:39] <quick-> Sifrazooy: go to the ubuntu software center youl get all the information about the install update that too categorized
[11:39] <toumbo> How to save file using nano from recovery mode?
[11:39] <gaelfx> geoffmcc: the problem is I'm not sure which packages it installed, since USC is terribly uninformative in that manner
[11:39] <Sifrazooy> crizzy:thnx :D
[11:39] <crizzy> toumbo: ctrl-o + enter
[11:40] <quick-> crizzy: i m creatinf the user for ldap for the 1st time and too the 1st user , where can the passwd be wrong ? Pls hel p
[11:40] <geoffmcc> Sifrazooy: software center / history / updates
[11:40] <geoffmcc> Sifrazooy: software center / history / updates
[11:40] <Sifrazooy> quick: actually i can't do that the only thing i can do is throw the terminal
[11:40] <geoffmcc> oops sorry
[11:40] <toumbo> crizzy got it!!Thanks!!!
[11:40] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: didnt u say it was cheese
[11:41] <crizzy> quick-: no idea, http://nixcraft.com/domain-name-server/17197-ldap_bind-invalid-credentials-49-a.html might help. i don't have that much ldap experience
[11:41] <gaelfx> geoffmcc: yeah
[11:41] <quick-> crizzy:  thanks
[11:42] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: well im not really familar with the package, but the command i gave will remove cheese and any config files, not sure about any other programs it may have installed
[11:44] <gaelfx> geoffmcc: well, the reason I'm wondering about it is that when I first installed it, it said it would take something like 77MB of space, but then after I removed it, I looked at installing it again, and it said that it would take 12MB of space, so I can only assume, that there are some extra files
[11:44] <dury> does anyone install
[11:45] <dury> sorry
[11:46] <dury> does anyone install  the feature that make with mouse red line to indicate something in the desktop
[11:46] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: one sec
[11:46] <dury> how does it call?
[11:47] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: i ran apt-get install cheese and this is list of all that installed, http://paste.ubuntu.com/746930/ . I would say run the command i gave to at least get config files gone, and then check these extra packages to see if still installed
[11:48] <geoffmcc> gaelfx: there may be an easier way, but unfortunatly im not sure of what to do, but at best this will tell you what all extra was installed
[11:48] <dury> has anyone installed the mouse's feature to make red lines in the desktop?
[11:48] <dury> how does it call?
[11:49] <dury> I want to install it
[11:50] <dury> but I don't know the package name... :(
[11:50] <ikonia> dury: I have never even heard of something that does that, let alone know the name of it
[11:50] <SolarisBoy1> i think it was in compiz
[11:50] <bgtr34> hello, new user here i've installed ydl before and ubuntu on ps3. just about to install on laptop through wubi. how do I get ubuntu to recognise my wireless card so i can connect to internetz
[11:50] <SolarisBoy1> *was*
[11:51] <dury> yeah Ikonia there is
[11:51] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: what kind of card?
[11:51] <dury> I don't the name
[11:51] <dury> sorry I don't know the name
[11:52] <bgtr34> geoffmcc i'm not sure it is whatever is in dell 1520 as it came. i think a broadcom but I havent owned a pc in a few years im a little out of touch!
[11:52] <gaelfx> geoffmcc: thanks man, very helpful
[11:53] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: yea, if it dell most likley broadcom. you just need to go to software center and install the firmware-b43-install package, but you will need to have a wired connection to do it
[11:53] <dury> SolarisBoy1: do you know that?
[11:53] <rtaylor> how come all the text is not showing up when people type?
[11:55] <bgtr34> Ok. thats easy enough thanks geoffmcc. One question using WUBI, i havent done an install like this and only doing so because i dont have a blank CD on me. are there any downsides to doing it this way or is it just as good as setting up a seperate partition?
[11:56] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: to be honest i never really gave it much of a chance, i tried it a while back, didnt like something about it but i dont even remember what that was
[11:56] <bgtr34> sorry for clarity, i guess you mean you didnt like wubi?
[11:56] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: do you have a flash drive you can use?
[11:57] <dury> Ikonia: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/nodes/2239/ss/doodle.jpg
[11:57] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: i just never really gave it much of a chance, i remember installing it and then just kinda deleted it and partitioned and used iso to install
[11:57] <gaelfx> sound recorder and audacity can both use my mic, but  sound settings doesn't seem to recognize it and pulse definitely doesn't because my mic can't work in skype, so how can I make pulse get wise?
[11:57] <elzoog> Hey guys, I am still having trouble with sound.
[11:57] <bgtr34> somewhere, but can't find. i think I'll try it through wubi first and then go get some CD's im going to give ubunutu and fedora a try and see which I prefer.
[11:58] <gaelfx> elzoog: welcome to the club, what's your particular problem with sound?
[11:58] <kanhiya> help me solve my bluetooth problem
[11:58] <kanhiya> i am very frustrated with this
[11:58] <dury> HOw do I install that feature?
[11:58] <kanhiya> i am using ubuntu 11. 10
[11:58] <kanhiya> bluetooth not working
[11:59] <dury> and how does it call?
[11:59] <kanhiya> it detects device but unable to send or receive files
[11:59] <elzoog> Thanks gaelfx,  I tried updating from musescore 1.0 to 1.1 along with doing some other things.   One of the things I did somehow ruined sound.
[11:59] <gaelfx> kanhiya: does your bluetooth device show up in lspci or lsusb?
[11:59] <luist> how can i sync just lucid repository to make a local mirror??
[11:59] <kanhiya> let me see
[11:59] <elzoog> gaelfx, I tried updating to 11.10 and that didn't fix it.
[11:59] <bgtr34> another probably daft question. i've only installed on a ps3 before, if I partition will I lose all my windows data? i'm guessing there is only one hdd in this dell and that its already partitioned into the 100gb C:/ and the 10Gb or so recovery D:/ can I keep D:\ as I need that to be able to recover windows if anything goes wrong but i kinda want a seperate partition
[12:01] <gaelfx> elzoog: well, I can only assume you've installed alsamixer and checked the channels not being muted that way, right?
[12:01] <MrS1lentcz> hi :)
[12:01] <gaelfx> bgtr34: you could always install on a USB flash drive ;)
[12:02] <gaelfx> bgtr34: and just to be clear, I'm not talking about making a live USB, I mean actually installing it
[12:02] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: yea, wubi is designed for window users to try ubuntu without fear of dataloss
[12:02] <bgtr34> do you mean have nothing on the actual pc?  is that better
[12:02] <elzoog> gaelfx, It looks like nothing is muted
[12:03] <gaelfx> elzoog: ok, what is your audio device in lspci?
[12:03] <bgtr34> I only need to keep D:\ as it has the recovery for windows to restore to factory settings which i did yesterday. Im not worried about losing anything else as there is nothing apart from firefox and pidgin installed so far.
[12:03] <jangirke_> Bye Thanks
[12:03] <kanhiya> gaelfx: it's integrated bluetooth & wifi  , i think so, i am using a laptop & broadcom4313 wireless adapter which also does not perform well on ubuntu 11.10, but bluetooth icon is there on panel & it detect all devices and pair them , asks for DUN connection etc but not able to send or receive files, error code 13 appears
[12:03] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: with wubi ubuntu is installed on c:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk. it does not get installed to its own partition
[12:04] <gaelfx> elzoog: or maybe aplay -l will be more informative
[12:04] <SolarisBoy1> dury: the name of the plugin?
[12:04] <kanhiya> gaelfx: It also says that permission denied(13)
[12:05] <gaelfx> kanhiya: hang on, I'll look into that
[12:05] <elzoog> Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[12:05] <Zpix> hi all
[12:05] <geoffmcc> kanhiya: in reguards to your wifi are you using the b43 driver?
[12:05] <kandinski> can you switch between unity and unity2d without loggig out?
[12:05] <Zpix> I can't shut down in ubuntu 11.10 :(
[12:05] <Zpix> when I want to shut it down it goes to login page!!
[12:06] <bgtr34> in your opinion is wubi then not a true  OS set up but a try before you take the plunge type of thing? i'm intending to make linux whichever flavour I settle on the most used OS on my PC. its an old second hand laptop, but all i need is to be able to type cv's and job apps and browse the web etc. nothing fancy
[12:06] <luist> hey guys… about the packages inside http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/   how do i know which ones are for each ubuntu release?
[12:06] <geoffmcc> Zpix: gear looking icon in upper right, click that and shutdown is last option
[12:06] <dury> SolarisBoy1: the name of the plugin or feature whatever
[12:06] <elzoog> gaelfx, Don't know if that helps.   I have been running Ubuntu for quite a few months on this laptop and only recently had a problem
[12:07] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: exactly, its meant for you to try it before you commit to it
[12:07] <afeijo> good morning
[12:07] <Zpix> geoffmcc: I know how to shut down! I said: IT GOES TO LOGIN PAGE instead shut down
[12:07] <gaelfx> elzoog: yeah, definitely need aplay -l, HDA intel has about a thousand and one different chips
[12:07] <geoffmcc> Zpix: yelling is not neccesary
[12:07] <bgtr34> Ok then i dont think i'll bother with wubi and get rid. its not what I'm looking for. thanks for your help guys. i'm off to get some cheap cd's and milk :D
[12:07] <kanhiya> geoddmcc: broadcom sta available in additional driver section, i activated them but performance was drastic so i disable them & switch again to default drivers
[12:08] <bgtr34> assuming most people here are guys...
[12:08] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: if your looking to dual boot though, its always easier to do if you setup windows first, create a partition for ubuntu and then use the installer to do the rest, it will notice your windows and give you a install along side option
[12:08] <Zpix> geoffmcc: it's necessary to read well and then talk about it :)
[12:08] <afeijo> I need to set up an virtual ubuntu desktop, so several thin clients can access it thru RDP, is it possible??
[12:09] <bgtr34> Ok. how do i set that partition up? its been about 10 years since I did that.
[12:09] <glebihan> dury, that's the "annotate" plugin for compiz
[12:09] <kanhiya> i am asking from community, when one thing is running very  well, whether to update it's driver  to a non working situation & why do developer do that
[12:09] <elzoog> gaelfx, Am tempted to reinstall ubuntu, but that would have the pain of fixing bugs the newer versions of ubuntu introduced (such as hidden scrolls)
[12:10] <kanhiya> my bluetooth was working very well in ubuntu 11.04 or earlier versions
[12:10] <geoffmcc> kanhiya: hmm. i have no problems on 11.10. i installed driver using firmware-b43-installer
[12:10] <gaelfx> elzoog: well, to be honest, I usually just reinstall if things get really buggy, but it does seem you should be able to fix it without that
[12:10] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: winxp?
[12:10] <quick-> hey i ma getting this error ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) while configuring the first user  for Ldap please help
[12:10] <dury> glebihan: so... to have that feature in my mouse first I have to install compiz
[12:10] <kanhiya> but ubuntu 11.10  disappontied me except software centre
[12:11] <bgtr34> geoffmcc im on vista.
[12:11] <glebihan> dury, compiz should be installed and enabled by default
[12:11] <kanhiya> geoffmcc: my internet speed was so slow on wifi using STA drivers & connection was also dropping
[12:12] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: i believe it is in administrative tools/computer managment/disk managment/ then you right click on the partitoon and choose shrink and select a size
[12:12] <quick-> hey i am getting this error ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) while configuring the first user  for Ldap please help
[12:12] <bgtr34> OK thanks geoffmcc!
[12:12] <SolarisBoy1> dury "Paint Fire on Screen"
[12:12] <dury> glebihan: all right... I see thanks indeed
[12:12] <geoffmcc> kanhiya: yea i never use those ones, i always use the b43
[12:12] <SolarisBoy1> dury: if you play with the color/appearance setting on the plugin.. it doesn't always look like fire,, it could then look like red lines etc..
[12:12] <glebihan> dury, you're welcome
[12:13] <dury> :)
[12:14] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: no problem
[12:14] <luist> hey guys… about the packages inside http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/  how do i know which ones are for each ubuntu release? i'd like to rsync just the lucid repo
[12:15] <dury> glebihan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhKOB6FIaA  thanks a lot :)
[12:16] <glebihan> dury, you're welcome
[12:16] <glebihan> luist, you cannot use rsync to retrieve only the lucid packages
[12:17] <luist> glebihan: :T
[12:17] <dury> glebihan: great supporter... you are :)
[12:18] <Tonius> h1 all! How make dhcp server use special file for log messages ? Now log mesaggew writing in syslog
[12:22] <fedtobunt> hi there
[12:23] <fedtobunt> hi
[12:23] <norpan> Hi, can someone answer a simple question? I installed a theme from gnome-look, and a new wallapaper appeared in  the wallpaper-selector, but where is that wallpaper stored?
[12:24] <norpan> Its not in /usr/share/wallpapers or usr/share/themes/ either
[12:24] <geoffmcc> Tonius: have a look at http://www.hacktopia.net/wp/force-dhcpd-to-log-to-its-own-file-with-syslog-mg
[12:25] <afeijo> I need to set up an virtual ubuntu desktop, so several thin clients can access it thru RDP, is it possible??
[12:26] <geoffmcc> norpan: did you mean /usr/share/backgrounds or is that your mistake
[12:26] <bgtr34> Ok just about to partition, think i'm doing something wrong here.... On disk0 there are 4 partitions 1at 196mb, then theres C:\ at 100GB and D:\at 10gb then something at the end that is 2.5Gb of seeming redundant space is that supposed to be there?
[12:26] <fedtobunt> I have a question too. I am leaving fedora land and want to backup my soft raid with lvm 40G to single 40G hdd. whats the easiest way to do this?
[12:27] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: yea i always have a little unused space at the end, not a lot
[12:27] <bgtr34> 2.50Gb seems a hefty chunk of that tiny hdd can I reduce it to 1gb safely?
[12:28] <ism3d> ismed
[12:29] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: i couldnt say as i really dont know what it is
[12:30] <bgtr34> ok i'll leave it as is for now. how do i add another partition then for my linux install. I'm thinking 10Gb?
[12:30] <norpan> I found a new wallpaper in the wallpaper-selector when you right click, where is that stored? its not in /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:31] <gaelfx> whenever I open a menu on the top panel, it appears, then disappears for a second and then reappears. How can I fix this?
[12:31] <xskydevilx> Why does Ctrl + Alt + Shift + R  not work on Ubuntu?
[12:31] <geoffmcc> bgtr34: i always right click on c and choose shrink and then set to size. This also may be handled buy the install disk too, but i always setup partition on my own first
[12:31] <fedtobunt> Can someone help here.  I am leaving fedora land and want to backup my soft raid with lvm 40G to single 40G hdd. whats the easiest way to do this?
[12:31] <gaelfx> xskydevilx: what is that supposed to do?
[12:32] <xskydevilx> gaelfx: Record the desktop.
[12:32] <afeijo> :(
[12:32] <xskydevilx> gaelfx: *Records
[12:33] <slide> How can I updated flash 64?
[12:33] <slide> s/updated/update
[12:33] <gaelfx> xskydevilx: well, my best guess is that that's part of gnome-shell, which is no longer included in ubuntu by default
[12:34] <geoffmcc> xskydevilx: are you using unity, as it looks like a gnome shell feature
[12:34] <slide> the ppa that i used to use is now gone
[12:34] <xskydevilx> geoffmcc: Yeah, I'm using Unity. So if that doesn't work, which screen record tool should I use?
[12:35] <gaelfx> slide: I think you can download the .so file and manually place it in the plugins folder (which I can't remember the exact location of offhand)
[12:35] <geoffmcc> xskydevilx: sorry no help to you there, i just looked up the shortcut and found that it was gnome shell
[12:36] <xskydevilx> geoffmcc: which screen record tool should I use?
[12:36] <slide> gaelfx, yea i was hoping for an automated way heh thanks
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> slide  PPA's or non-official sources, you need to contact the person who maintains it
[12:36] <LuCifer> Hello Peple
[12:36] <LuCifer> Can anyone help me here
[12:36] <geoffmcc> xskydevilx: sorry no help to you there, i just looked up the shortcut and found that it was gnome shell. I dont use any screen record software
[12:37] <norpan> geoffmcc: yes i meant that folder
[12:37] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[12:37] <Guest19002> Umm can anyone help me bout
[12:37] <Guest19002> KDE interface
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[12:37] <norpan> geoffmcc: you know where the wallpaper can be stored? it popped up where i chose wallpaper from righ-click dekstop..with all the standard wallpapers
[12:38] <tusharkumar> Guest19002: Tell me the problem
[12:38] <Guest19002> Who you talkin 2
[12:38] <Guest19002> Me?
[12:38] <tusharkumar> Only if you are facing a problem.
[12:38] <Guest19002> OH yes i do
[12:38] <Guest19002> Umm The Audio on backtrack
[12:38] <Guest19002> i dont know hwere to locate it
[12:38] <geoffmcc> xskydevilx: take a look at http://youtube.com/watch?v=7DpCzLoDrFw
[12:38] <szal> do you see anyone else naming themselves 'Guest19002'? ;)
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> backtrack is not supported here
[12:39] <Guest19002> Can you point in the right direction then?
[12:39] <gaelfx> xskydevilx: you might try recordmydesktop from USC. I've never tried it, but it sounds like it should be able to do what you want
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> #backtrack Channel is open.
[12:39] <Guest19002> thank you guys
[12:40] <geoffmcc> norpan: sorry im not sure, i only said something cause i wasnt sure if you just typo'd that directory or if you were in the wrong one, sorry
[12:40] <norpan> geoffmcc: oh, ok. thanks anyway!
[12:40] <geoffmcc> xskydevilx: gaelfx: yea i think that what youtube video i gave url to will have install, but it also gives some other packages for compression and what not
[12:41] <kamilnadeem> I have made a fresh installation of Ubuntu 11.10 using this partition scheme: 2.5gb swap(primary partition), 500gb /home(primary partition) and 20gb /(extended partition). Now is it possible to install another distro and use the same home partition?
[12:41] <tusharkumar> No
[12:41] <tusharkumar> kamilnadeem: No
[12:42] <__G0D__> Backtrack Channel is sooooooooooooooooooooo quite
[12:42] <kamilnadeem> Please may I know why.
[12:42] <tusharkumar> kamilnadeem: Linux uses ext partitions where as windows uses NTFS
[12:42] <kamilnadeem> I know sir
[12:42] <HerrBlume> hello, i would like to add addional packages to my ubuntu installation, where do i have to put them
[12:42] <kamilnadeem> I will not format it
[12:43] <tusharkumar> There is one common partition... FAT32
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> like I want to install, luninux OS , so I use the swap there , the 500gb home part(w/o formating_ and a new 20gb/(for root)?
[12:44] <geoffmcc> tusharkumar: he wants to install another distro , not window
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> geoffmcc: Yes
[12:44] <HerrBlume> no i want to modify the installation cd
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> geoffmcc: is it possible
[12:44] <geoffmcc> kamilnadeem: sorry, im not sure if you can do that, i was just clarifying your situation
[12:45] <kamilnadeem> geoffmcc: Ok :-)
[12:45] <geoffmcc> kamilnadeem: quick scan of google looks like possible
[12:45] <geoffmcc> kamilnadeem: i searched can two distros use the same home directory
[12:45] <kamilnadeem> geoffmcc: and?
[12:45] <tusharkumar> kamilnadeem: Yes
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> :-)
[12:46] <geoffmcc> kamilnadeem: have a look
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> ok searching
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> brb in 10min
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> urgent work sorry
[12:47] <guzu> hello all
[12:48] <jerenept> Hello #Ubuntu
[12:48] <guzu> can ntfs partitions be mounted with suid option?
[12:48] <guzu> 10.10
[12:48] <jerenept> I do believe so.
[12:49] <kamilnadeem> Yes I
[12:49] <kamilnadeem> was saying that , how to prevent the overwriting of grub when Installing a new distro?
[12:49] <user_> hello
[12:49] <user_> hi
[12:50] <Cipherboy> @kamilnadeem, generally you can prevent it from writing a boatloader
[12:50] <Cipherboy> @user_ what is your question?
[12:51] <guzu> kamilnadeem, install the newer's distro bootloader on it's root/boot partition
[12:51] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: When does one do that, I have installed many distro(both Ubuntu based and other) but I overlooked that part
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> guzu: where does this option comes while installing , sorry If I sound inane?
[12:52] <guzu> it seems that it doesn't work with ntfs-3g suid,exec
[12:52] <guzu> kamilnadeem, this depends on the distro
[12:52] <Cipherboy> Generally you can select in in the install configuration. For Ubuntu, it is right before you click accept to start installing (not sure if that is the right word, lit has been a while since I installed)
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> hmmm.
[12:52] <Cipherboy> *select it in
[12:53] <guzu> kamilnadeem, some don't have it. when it asks to install the bootloader ,it may ask (like in fedora) where to install it
[12:53] <geoffmcc> clear
[12:53] <guzu> kamilnadeem, rumours are grub2 doesn't like this very much
[12:53] <guzu> (installing into partitions boot sector)
[12:54] <Cipherboy> you can select (option in the Ubuntu installation) to not have a bootloader
[12:54] <Cipherboy> Then you just add it to your other install's grub menu
[12:54] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: via update grub
[12:54] <matt123412> Hi, I've got a program called fsl installed, I want to use various tools it has in the command line (for example fslchfiletype can change certain file types etc), but I'm having trouble.  I suspect I need to add the folder containing all these commands to the path, but i tried and whatever i did didn't seem to help.  any ideas?  I can only locate these functions in /usr/share/fsl/4.1/bin , but the bin folder is jsut a shortcut t
[12:54] <guzu> Cipherboy, but you have to install the bootloader's files first, right?
[12:55] <Cipherboy> Depends
[12:55] <Cipherboy> If you have a Linux distro, you shouldn't need to
[12:55] <dr_willis> matt123412:  you mean  the bin dir is a link somewhere else?
[12:55] <Cipherboy> Else if you are chainloading another boot loader, it will work.
[12:55] <guzu> Cipherboy, rfom my experience, not installing the bootloader may mean not installing grub*
[12:55] <matt123412> like when you create a folder shortcut on teh desktop
[12:55] <matt123412> with the swoopign arrow
[12:56] <Cipherboy> Wait, eoesn't he already have a Linux os installed?
[12:56] <Cipherboy> And he wanted to add another distro in addition to it?
[12:56] <guzu> Cipherboy, good point
[12:56] <kamilnadeem> So I say install the bootloader in the root folder of the distro being installed then updating grub from my main Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:57] <Cipherboy> No, you should be able to select no bootloader when you install the second os.
[12:57] <Cipherboy> Then in Ubuntu you run update-grub (with sudo)
[12:57] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: Ok
[12:57] <Cipherboy> What specific distro do you want to install?
[12:57] <dr_willis> matt123412:  use the terminal to see whats in that folder
[12:58] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: :-) I am thinking of luninuxOS , I have actually started a blog about FOSS and it is for that but I am your regular distro tester even before that
[12:58] <kamilnadeem> :D
[12:59] <matt123412> ls /usr/share/fsl/4.1/bin returns the expected list of files
[13:00] <Cipherboy> Kamilnadeem Okay. I was just wondering. I have like 20 CDs myself..
[13:00] <dr_willis> matt123412:  so you need to edit your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile to add that directory to your PATH
[13:00] <kamilnadeem> I used to install new distro , by cleaning the previous one , then I started keeping multiple distro's and each one updated the previous one, and when I deleted a distro thatI have grub running , getting grub rescue error
[13:01] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: Its all live Usb here, Unetbootin,dd :-)
[13:01] <matt123412> sorry to ask what's probably blindingly obvious, but how do i go about doing that?
[13:01] <nasso_> does anyone know where i can find the application gnome-screensaver-preferences in xubuntu 11.10?
[13:01] <nasso_> (i guess this is not a xubuntu specific question really, just want to know what package it is in)
[13:02] <Cipherboy> Matt123412 open up a terminal and type:
[13:02] <Cipherboy> nano ~/.bashrc
[13:02] <InvaderZim> can someone tell me why in unity my icon files that should be previewed are instead showing just a clock indefinately?
[13:03] <super> hii
[13:03] <matt123412> ok
[13:03] <Cipherboy> Sorry about new line, not used to IRC on the iPad. Scroll down to the end (arrow keys) and add the line:
[13:03] <kamilnadeem> nasso_: I don't use Xubuntu but check here http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=screensaver%20in%20xubuntu&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Fhow_7225016_adjust-screensaver-xubuntu.html&ei=9e7MTvKVKoHwrQf3ppnADA&usg=AFQjCNFPmtfaZQxPKWhS4EiUWAuZ25aPuw&sig2=S0yBjY8LW6IF9ieyjvd6qA
[13:03] <EuroNerd> How do I tell the Update Manager to ignore some updates?  I've chosen not to install a couple (e.g. some related to Braille for the blind), but each time I launch the Update Manager it offers them again.
[13:03] <dr_willis> matt123412:  you may want to read up on BASH sometime soon and how it uses the PATH variable.
[13:03] <kamilnadeem> nasso_: here http://www.ehow.com/how_7225016_adjust-screensaver-xubuntu.html
[13:03] <Cipherboy> PATH="$PATH:/path/to/directory/with/bins"
[13:04] <Cipherboy> Which I don't know where that is off the top of my head (wasn't following your conversation)
[13:04] <szal> EuroNerd: why would you want that?  anything wrong w/ the updated version?
[13:04] <kamilnadeem> sorry for that google shoerade
[13:04] <matt123412> ok, thanks
[13:04] <nasso_> kamilnadeem: thanks. but that is not my problem. i have replaced the default xscreensaver with gnome-screensaver because is have crash-problems with xscreensaver
[13:04] <matt123412> and yes, ir eally do need to learn how this all works
[13:04] <matt123412> mainly using linux to allow me to use some command line stuff on data
[13:04] <matt123412> and see all my ram
[13:04] <dr_willis> matt123412:  some basics of it  (first google hit i saw)  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
[13:04] <afeijo> I need to set up an virtual ubuntu desktop, so several thin clients can access it thru RDP, is it possible??
[13:04] <EuroNerd> szal, it's not that there's something wrong with having Braille capability, but I just don't need it.
[13:04] <nasso_> kamilnadeem: i have gnome-screensaver up and running but i cant get to the settings
[13:05] <kamilnadeem> nasso_: mean you are not able to access it
[13:05] <szal> EuroNerd: then uninstall it
[13:06] <dr_willis> afeijo:  should be doable. I do a similer thing only with vnc.
[13:06] <Cipherboy> Sure. What protocol do you have in mind? RDP and VNC are not that secure, VNC+SSL would work, SSH+X11 forwarding is also good.
[13:06] <nasso_> kamilnadeem: i need gnome-screensaver-preferences to change the settings of gnome-screensaver. but gnome-screensaver-preferences was not contained in the gnome-screensaver package
[13:06] <EuroNerd> szal, well, good idea, except I've already uninstalled Gwibber for instance, and yet the Update Manager keeps throwing Gwibber updates at me.
[13:06] <dr_willis> afeijo:  how are the clients connected? local lan?what os are they runnbing?>
[13:06] <afeijo> dr_willis, only vnc? how?
[13:06] <afeijo> dr_willis, local wifi network
[13:06] <dr_willis> afeijo:  i just set up vnc on the server and vnc in as needed
[13:06] <kamilnadeem> nasso_:here http://askubuntu.com/questions/59577/replace-xscreensaver-with-gnome-screensaver-xubuntu, I recommend that you check #xubuntu
[13:06] <guzu> do you hapen to know how to tune a file system so that the reserved space is 100m ?
[13:07] <afeijo> dr_willis, 1 server to multiple clients?
[13:07] <pedrosans> hi all, how can I change the default color scheme of the 'Radiance' in Ubuntu 11.10
[13:07] <dr_willis> guzu:  for ext* you use the tune2fs command
[13:07] <dr_willis> afeijo:  thats how servers normally work. :) yes..
[13:07] <afeijo> dr_willis, AFAIK vnc is to 1 - 1 access
[13:07] <matt123412> i used that document earlier, it seemed to work but executing the command threw up a load of otehr errors saying it couldn't find other files which were present in the same directory
[13:07] <dr_willis> afeijo:  that is incorrect...
[13:07] <dr_willis> t
[13:07] <nasso_> kamilnadeem: you i followed that. but gnome-screensaver-preferences is not in that package. ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist )
[13:08] <nasso_> i will try #xubuntu
[13:08] <dr_willis> afeijo:  thgeres more to vnc then the limited vink vnc desktop feature of gnome
[13:08] <matt123412> and when i closed and re-opened the terminal it decided it couldn't find the original file again
[13:08] <afeijo> dr_willis, cool, I'll google about it
[13:08] <dr_willis> afeijo:  you could have a dozen+ hidden vnc sessions if you wanted
[13:08] <afeijo> thanks
[13:08] <kamilnadeem> nasso_: yes that will be a better place to find your solution
[13:08] <afeijo> I want 4 to 6, probably
[13:08] <dr_willis> thats how vnc normally works. the share the 'seen' desktop is a special case
[13:08] <szal> EuroNerd: stupid GUI tools, tend not to work as expected (w/ one notable exception on another distro)
[13:08] <nasso_> kamilnadeem: it was there in natty though: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist
[13:09] <guzu> dr_willis, thank you
[13:09] <nasso_> but not in oneiric
[13:09] <kamilnadeem> nasso_: I can't say about packages , sorry
[13:09] <EuroNerd> How do I tell the Update Manager not to pesk me with Gwibber updates when Gwibber is already uninstalled?
[13:09] <guzu> dr_willis, i see only [ -m reserved-blocks-
[13:09] <guzu>        percentage ]
[13:10] <dr_willis> guzu:  i normally set mine to 0% :)
[13:10] <guzu> ah :)
[13:10] <super> euronerd you can try blacklisting gwibber
[13:10] <guzu> ok, then
[13:10] <guzu> thanks again
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  is there no ~/.gwibber you can delete?
[13:10] <dr_willis> guzu: [-r reserved_blocks_count]
[13:11] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, should it be directly in the Home folder?  If so, no, it's not there. (And yes, i'm seeing hidden files.)
[13:11] <super> hii... how can i become anonymous online ??
[13:12] <dr_willis> super:  just irc or always?
[13:12] <super> the browser ...
[13:12] <guzu> dr_willis, yes, i've seen that
[13:12] <nasso_> EuroNerd: apt-get purge gwibber
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> super  there's tor, but i have no experience with it
[13:12] <xskydevilx> Does anyone have this problem? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcI-OfPQ3aU
[13:12] <nasso_> EuroNerd: sudo find / -iname gwibber
[13:13] <super> yes always ... anonymous how can i do that ?
[13:14] <dr_willis> theres tor guides online.
[13:14] <dr_willis> !info tore
[13:14] <dr_willis> !info tor
[13:14] <super> tor i too slow and i dont really trust there exit nodes ... is there any other way ??
[13:15] <dr_willis> pay for a vpn
[13:15] <super> can't i configure squid for complete anonymity ??
[13:16] <dr_willis> thats not what squid does
[13:16] <InvaderZim> can someone tell me why in unity my icon files that should be previewed are instead showing just a clock indefinately?
[13:16] <super> then what it does ??
[13:17] <dr_willis> !info squid
[13:17] <dr_willis> squid is just a cacheing  proxy
[13:17] <kamilnadeem> Cipherboy: Thank You once again
[13:17] <kamilnadeem> Bye everyone
[13:17] <super> and what about tinyproxy ??
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> super  i guess being 100% anonymous is quite impossible
[13:18] <gaelfx> when I open a menu from a panel item, the menu flickers before it fully appears, how can I fix that? also, when my computer wakes from sleep, I have to unlock it twice?
[13:18] <dr_willis> any proxy YOU run would be tracked back to you. so you need to  use someone elsews proxy. or clairfy what you are wanting to do
[13:18] <super> what about 99% ??
[13:18] <gaelfx> MonkeyDust: untrue, library computers and really good masks ;)
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> ;)
[13:18] <EuroNerd> nasso_, this is what I got from find: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747006/
[13:19] <super> maybe i need a shell account ...
[13:19] <gaelfx> oh, and underground tunnels that are unknown to any others
[13:19] <jacob11> guys does anyone know is it possible to list all or most domains of .me domain?
[13:19] <jacob11> i need help
[13:20] <nasso_> EuroNerd: ok. i would have tried to install it again and then purge it with apt-get pruge gwibber
[13:20] <super> well i already got one but when i try to run my browser through it i get some errors ...
[13:20] <EuroNerd> nasso_, I'll try that, thanks.
[13:21] <TaZeR> holy shit guys I just installed the new ubuntu with gnome 3 it looks freakin amazing!
[13:21] <EuroNerd> Did anyone notice this weird behavior after recent updates:  When you "stick" a window to the monitor edge, so that it's automatically resized to take up half the screen, you can no longer grab an edge (say, the one in the middle of scr) and resize the window?
[13:21] <super> good for you tazer ... ;)
[13:21] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: nice to see someone who likes it for a change
[13:21] <gaelfx> TaZeR: just wait until you start trying to customize things. that'll learn ya good
[13:22] <TaZeR> i was using 10.04 LTE this entire time!
[13:22] <TaZeR> yea im getting into the customizing a bit now =DD
[13:22] <super> im on 10.04 too
[13:22] <Gentoo64> inb4 cant boot
[13:22] <EuroNerd> ...I wonder if that's a bug or another of Shuttleworth's retarded ideas.
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  please don't start ranting
[13:23] <gaelfx> TaZeR: btw, I think you're referring to Unity, not gnome 3
[13:23] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, point taken, but do you see the described problem on your system?  Do you have 11.10 with the latest updates?
[13:23] <TaZeR> no i actually installed gnome3 first thing
[13:24] <gaelfx> TaZeR: ah, gotcha
[13:24] <gaelfx> is there any way to set a screensaver?
[13:24] <Oins> Does anyone have experiences  with the Lexmark T430DN printer? Does it works well as network printer with Linux. What's about the printer itself. It is a good choice?
[13:24] <super> gaelfx yes use xwinwrap
[13:28] <jacob11> anyone?
[13:28] <super> hii
[13:28] <digitalfiz> is there a way to make ubuntu reinstall a package complete even the files in /etc/ and such?
[13:28] <digitalfiz> i uninstalled mysql and then deleted /etc/mysql but when i reinstalled it, it didn't put those files back
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[13:29] <InvaderZim> how can I create a vnc session on display :0 (the same I'm logged in locally, I don't want a new display!)
[13:29] <Anomie21> Hi, Just installed ubuntu - can I access my company/domains fileserver anyhow? I can't see it via the file browser.
[13:30] <george> hello. trying to save alsamixer settings returns me this: http://paste.kde.org/149882/   Help please?
[13:30] <EuroNerd> Did anyone notice this weird behavior after recent updates:  When you "stick" a window to the monitor edge, so that it's automatically resized to take up half the screen, you can no longer grab a window edge to further resize it manually.
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> EuroNerd: yes i have
[13:31] <lgp171188> Hi, there is this wonderful puzzle game called Phlipple created by the same person who created Zaz. It is now packaged in debian unstable. Will ubuntu automatically pick up the same downstream or is there some process to be initiated? It'd be awesome to have the game packaged and installable in ubuntu.
[13:32] <EuroNerd> SolarisBoy, OK, so it's not just me, good to know.  Do you think there's any point reporting this as a bug, or is it another Canonical's "features" to drive users crazy?
[13:32] <super> this is the error i get when i try to connect to the ssh server through my browser .. " channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed"
[13:32] <super> how can i fix it ?
[13:33] <SolarisBoy> EuroNerd: I have been contemplating the same questions
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  i don't like Unity either, so i switched to a different fork
[13:35] <Jezzz> is there an 'ipconfig /flushdns' equivalent in ubuntu?
[13:35] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, I don't think it's Unity as such, it's more about the people who are making some of the user experience decisions.
[13:35] <Jezzz> or linux in general i suppose
[13:36] <digitalfiz> SolarisBoy that did not reinstall the configs
[13:36] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, and as such, I think these should be stigmatised in the public as frequently as possible.
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> whats /etc/mysql?
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> i always thought config started at my.cnf
[13:37] <digitalfiz> the my.cnf and other configs for it
[13:37] <gnagno> hello all
[13:37] <guspur> hi all
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[13:38] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu was supposed to be for the "normal" people - not Linux nerds, but casual users switching from Windows. I regard myself as such a person and I'm driven crazy by Ubuntu.
[13:38] <gnagno> I am having an issue after updating from natty to oneiric, I installed gnome shell and when I launch it I still have gnome2 panels...
[13:38] <guspur> some one help me please
[13:38] <SolarisBoy> oh wait.. maybe just without --reinstall... i dont see how it can't install config files and exit succesfully
[13:38] <coz_> gnagno,  did you log off  and then choose gnome under the sessions pull down ?
[13:39] <guspur> how to mount dual layer dvd iso
[13:39] <gnagno> coz_, I even restarted my machine different times...
[13:39] <coz_> gnagno,  well you have to choose gnome in sessions for it to be default
[13:39] <SolarisBoy> mount -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /path/to/mount/folder
[13:39] <SolarisBoy> brb
[13:39] <gnagno> coz_, yes... I choose gnome, but it's loading gnome3 on top of gnome2
[13:40] <coz_> gnagno,  are you sure?  that's odd...ok open a terminal and type     gnome-shell --replace & disown  to see if it gets rid of the gnome 2 panels
[13:40] <super> gnagno : goto system administation and select login screen ...
[13:40] <super> check ur session there
[13:41] <xangua> gnagno: how did you exactly upgrade¿ please don't say "I switch natty to oneiric on my sources.list"
[13:42] <gnagno> coz_, did it... still the same
[13:42] <gnagno> super, it's not a problem of login screen
[13:42] <gnagno> xangua, I used update manager of course :)
[13:42] <theadmin> gnagno: Can you just apt-get remove gnome-panel?
[13:42] <xangua> gnagno: just making sure ;)
[13:42] <super> gnagno: i dont know his complete problem
[13:42] <coz_> gnagno,  no but  check under there anyway.. it does allow you to ch oose  which is the default session
[13:43] <gnagno> I am removing gnome-panel from apt-get
[13:43] <coz_> gnagno,  also would you take a screenshot and upload to picpaste.com ,, I would like to see what this looks like
[13:43] <coz_> gnagno,  you could also try   in terminal   killall  gnome-panel
[13:44] <gnagno> I am pasting on picpaste
[13:45] <gnagno> coz_, here is how it looks like: http://picpaste.com/Schermata_del_2011-11-23_14_43_44-k9C5uG5o.png
[13:45] <dp> what is the latest ubuntu suggested IM client?
[13:45] <coz_> gnagno,  mm  I do see the lower gnome panel there
[13:45] <coz_> wait
[13:46] <gnagno> coz_, there is even the upper gnome panel behind the dark one...
[13:46] <coz_> gnagno,  try in terminal   killall gnome-panel  and tell me that lower panel disapears
[13:46] <theadmin> dp: Ubuntu comes with Empathy by default
[13:47] <gnagno> coz_, yes with killall gnome-panel it disapperared
[13:47] <gnagno> thank you :)
[13:47] <dp> theadmin: thanks. that's what I was looking for
[13:47] <coz_> gnagno,  ok  that might only be temporary.. you can try to log off and back on again to see if they disapear
[13:47] <theadmin> dp: However, I strongly recommend against it, it's interface is bloody confusing, even Finch is easier to use
[13:47] <gnagno> coz_, do you think I should try to restart my session to see if it will reappear?
[13:47] <Dante_> gnagno u can try removing the gnome panels ..
[13:47] <coz_> gnagno,  yes:)
[13:47] <dp> theadmin: any idea if it supports meta contacts like pidgin?
[13:47] <Dante_> apt-get remove gnome-panel
[13:48] <Dante_> if u dont need it anymore (;
[13:48] <theadmin> dp: Does not, it's quite... a broken thing
[13:48] <Dante_> :P
[13:48] <coz_> gnagno,  ubuntu upgrades are consistently inconsistent
[13:48] <dp> theadmin: flail. you know if empathy is the sticking-with client, or are they planning to change it in ubuntu+1?
[13:48] <gnagno> lol... now the gnome3 panel isn't working :)
[13:48] <matt123412> hi, I'm trying to locate my .bash_profile fielto add a directory permanently to the path, but can't find the .bash_profile.  the web succester that it's be in /home/[my username]/.bash_profile or in /root/bash_profile, but i can't locate either, I'm aware that the . prefix probably means it's a hidden file
[13:48] <coz_> gnagno,  oh boy
[13:48] <gnagno> I can't logout :)
[13:49] <gnagno> ok I will restart from terminal
[13:49] <philipballew> Hey, I think I am accdently configured to a proxy. Can someone help me fix this
[13:49] <Dante_> lol..
[13:49] <theadmin> dp: They don't plan to change, and honestly I suggest you just switch away from Ubuntu (pm me if you want to know about other distros, I have tried a lot and I'm sure I can find the right one for you :D)
[13:49] <iceroot> matt123412: ~/.bash_profile
[13:49] <coz_> gnagno,  in terminal    gnome-sessioin-save --kill
[13:49] <iceroot> matt123412: if it does not exist, create it
[13:49] <mcored> i let ubuntu 11.01 extend the partition and install and i got this 1024 misalignment warning msg http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/izip6qcb/750GBHardDiskATAWDCWD7500BPKT75PK4T0.png
[13:50] <matt123412> ok, so I create the document bash_profile
[13:50] <matt123412> add the relevant lines
[13:50] <Dante_> mcored u can't extend ubuntu partition like that :S
[13:50] <theadmin> matt123412: Not just "bash_profile", mind the dot in front of it
[13:50] <matt123412> how do I then make the OS recognise that and add the relevant bits to teh path?
[13:51] <mcored> but thats what ubuntu installer did Dante_
[13:51] <matt123412> already sued in this folder
[13:51] <Dante_> ubuntu can't manage partitions like windows does ...
[13:51] <matt123412> *used
[13:52] <gnagno> thank you for your help guys, now I don't have gnome2 panels anymore :)
[13:52] <coz_> gnagno,  excellent :)
[13:53] <gnagno> I think now I will try unity as well.... I didn't like unity with gnome2 panels on top of it...
[13:53] <Dante_> the partition you assign to ubuntu for installation much be alligned  in the harddisk
[13:53] <luca> Can you help me with default keyword?
[13:53] <coz_> gnagno,  Unity still seems to be split down the middle with who does and does not like it :)
[13:53] <Dante_> it can't even mout disalligned partitions
[13:53] <Dante_> mount*
[13:53] <thrillERboy> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu using wubi with like 10 GB disk, is it possible to resize it to bigger disk now?
[13:53] <matt123412> can anyone tell me how to open and edit the hidden ~/.bash_profile file?
[13:54] <llutz> matt123412: nano ~/.bash_profile
[13:54] <Dante_> no it's not possible thrillerboy ...
[13:54] <thrillERboy> matt123412, in GUI or in command line?
[13:54] <matt123412> command line
[13:54] <Dante_> you need to install it again :P
[13:54] <matt123412> is probably for the best
[13:54] <llutz> matt123412: nano ~/.bash_profile
[13:54] <coz_> llutz,   if you open the home directory and hit ctrl+h  to show hidden files  , it should open in gedit
[13:54] <capcook> with user interface go to your home directory and the press CTRL + h
[13:55] <mcored> i chose "Install Ubuntu side by side with Windows", hit next, and chose the HDD, and it did all the repartitioning automatically
[13:55] <llutz> coz_: tell it matt123412
[13:55] <joseph810> Hello all, I am running ubuntu 10.04 LTS and my internet keeps on logging off. It is a university internet connection and it doesn't happen on my windows side. Do any of you have suggestions? just incase i get logged off my email is jgrig2@gmail.com
[13:55] <matt123412> ok so I've got it open in nano
[13:55] <mcored> btw is it possible to always show Taskbar rather than being auto hidden
[13:55] <thrillERboy> matt123412, then as llutz says nano ~/.bash_profile , Nano comes with ubuntu by default, you can use any of your fav CLI editors instead of nano tho
[13:55] <coz_> matt123412,  if you open the home directory and hit ctrl+h  to show hidden files  , it should open in gedit
[13:55] <Dante_> mcored:  then how you extended the linux partition ??
[13:55] <coz_> llutz,   sorry guy
[13:56] <chen_afsa> test
[13:56] <matt123412> ok, i think i've leave the command line for now and just use gedit
[13:56] <matt123412> thanks
[13:56] <gnagno> coz_, unity was ugly with gnome2 panels anyway :)
[13:56] <mcored> something Ubuntu installer did for sure because i did nothing with it
[13:56] <capcook> who's bily gates?
[13:56] <dp> theadmin: I'm fine with ubuntu, other than the constantly changing "end goal"
[13:56] <capcook> your not welcome here
[13:56] <capcook> :)
[13:56] <coz_> gnagno,   ok ,, stick to what you like :)
[13:56] <theadmin> dp: Hehe, well, can you PM me? I have some ideas for you.
[13:57] <joseph810> hello
[13:57] <Dante_> hii
[13:57] <joseph810> did someone read my message
[13:57] <coz_> joseph810,  I did not sorry
[13:57] <joseph810> Hello all, I am running ubuntu 10.04 LTS and my internet keeps on logging off. It is a university internet connection and it doesn't happen on my windows side. Do any of you have suggestions? just incase i get logged off my email is jgrig2@gmail.com
[13:58] <joseph810> I just reposted it coz
[13:58] <coz_> joseph810,  that
[13:58] <Anomie21> I found this tutorial on joining a windows domain (https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/336477:how-to-join-a-ubuntu-machine-to-a-windows-domain) but when I try and join the domain I get this error Error: LW_ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED [code 0x00009cde]
[13:58] <coz_> joseph810,  oh, that sounds odd,,, could it be a setting on the university system perhaps?  firewall?  etc?
[13:58] <joseph810> I don't think so
[13:59] <joseph810> noone else is having this problem
[13:59] <joseph810> and I wasnt untill yesterday
[13:59] <matt123412> ok so I can now locate teh .bash_profile and edit ti, it seems I'm not locating teh correct stuff
[13:59] <coz_> joseph810,  mmm.... not sure what that could be,,, I also run LTS here with no issues however not on a university system...
[14:00] <llutz> matt123412: what are you looking for/planning to do?
[14:00] <matt123412> I've installed this program fsl, and it's spread all ove rthe place, but after some searching i found the folder full of commands i want in /usr/share/fsl/4.1/bin
[14:00] <TxEdition>  Anyone know why sound only works in some games on Wine? MW2 sound works perfect each time, but Crysis 2 I can not get the sound to work and WoW will work for a second then crackle and then no sound. I am using Ubuntu 11.10 w/ Wine 1.3.28 If you would like any other info just ask.. I did try the WineSupport channel, but no one there
[14:00] <matt123412> i want to be able to run things like fslchfiletype , which changes certain file types
[14:00] <matt123412> in the commant line
[14:00] <matt123412> *command
[14:01] <bilygates> @capcook oh i'm just here to convert you to the microsoft religion
[14:01] <llutz> matt123412: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/share/fsl/4.1/bin                          add this line to ~/.bashrc
[14:01] <theadmin> TxEdition: I can give you a hint, try this command for running your game: padsp wine /path/to/whatever.exe
[14:01] <matt123412> I tried that
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:01] <matt123412> that then lets me run fslchfieltype, but ti throws up errors saying it can't find otehr stuff
[14:01] <matt123412> which is in the same filder
[14:02] <matt123412> *folder
[14:02] <bahr> damn ... ubuntu has improved a lot sine version 9 and 10 lately :o
[14:02] <bilygates> does anyone know how i can stop ubuntu from getting newer versions of a particular software from the official repos? more specifically, official kernels newer than tuxonice kernels?
[14:02] <bahr> it looks awesome now :D
[14:02] <llutz> matt123412: in that case you have to write wrapper-scripts placed somewhere in your PATH
[14:02] <matt123412> and also
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> bilygates  please tell EuroNerd ;)
[14:02] <matt123412> as soon if i close and re-open the terminal
[14:02] <matt123412> it's forgotton the path again
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> bahr   please tell EuroNerd ;)
[14:03] <xangua> bilygates: compile it yourself
[14:03] <matt123412> i ahve no idea what a wrapper-script is
[14:03] <xangua> !latest | bilygates
[14:03] <matt123412> i probably shouldn't be using linux in the first place, but it should make my life a lot easier with data processing
[14:04] <EuroNerd> MonkeyDust, bahr, I totally agree in terms of sheer looks. But functionally it's just a tragedy. And I use this word because this system could really be something - for the normal person (i.e. not a Linux nerd). Instead it's a vanity exercise of a guy who thinks he's the next Steve Jobs.
[14:04] <bilygates> @xangua hmm i think i didn't explain well enough
[14:04] <bahr> Haha I'm gonna tell anyone. I love that everythings seems so well integrated now, developers have really done a great job there
[14:04] <matt123412> also, should saving PATH=$PATH:/usr/share/fsl/4.1/bin   ; export PATH into the .bash_profile file not make that a permenant thing?
[14:05] <bahr> EuroNerd: What functionality do you miss?
[14:06] <bilygates> @xangua i install custom kernels from a ppa, but every once in a while the official repos get a new version, and my custom kernels are being updated to official ones (until the other folks update their ppa)
[14:06] <EuroNerd> bahr - let me give you an example from today, after the recent updates:  When you snap a window to the side of the screen, so that it's automatically resized to fit half the screen, I can no longer grab an edge and resize it further manually.
[14:06] <linda> bilygates: You are notified of updates and you see the list, when you see a kernel image on the list, just uncheck it.
[14:07] <Vanuatoo> I've installed jdk1.7u1 from Oracle site. I'm on livecd now. When I try to run java from terminal it says No such file or directory
[14:07] <linda> bilygates: Is that good enough?
[14:08] <EuroNerd> bahr, I'd like to think it's just a bug, but I'm pretty sure that when I waste an hour to set up an account on Launchpad and fill out the whole elaborate bug report form, it will be ignored for two months and after that someone will tell me that it's a conscious design decision to make things "simpler". And it makes me really angry.
[14:08] <bilygates> i was hoping for a way to "ban" kernels from the official repos, or something like that :s
[14:08] <edbian> EuroNerd: hahahaha, welcome to open source software!
[14:08] <xangua> bilygates: then complain with the ppa maintainers ;) and is not like the kernel is uninstalled, is still there and you can select it on your Grub
[14:09] <chmd> Hello
[14:10] <linda> bilygates: Well, maybe someone else knows how, but I don't.
[14:10] <EuroNerd> edbian: I know, which is why I will discourage my friends from picking up Ubuntu (or Linux altogether since there's probably no better alternative).  I'll switch back to Windows for getting things done and perhaps set up a Linux machine on the side for things where security is essential (on-line banking etc.).
[14:10] <guzu> bilygates, i know that in yum you can tell it to exclude certain packages from upgrade, and also you can give priority to some repos, maybe something similar exists for apt
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  let your friends "start" with Linux Mint
[14:11] <edbian> EuroNerd: well now I didn't say linux is useless.  I got ALL of my work done on linux.  Of course I'm a computer science major
[14:11] <edbian> EuroNerd: indeed, mint is the new ubuntu
[14:11] <bahr> EuroNerd: Well isn't that the way development works? Not everyone can be made happy? I would consider your issue a minor thing, cause I don't really use it, opposed to you, who naturaly consider this a major issue. I  don't think you ever can make every people happy, and with such a wide ranging distro like Ubuntu, compromises and design decisions are made all the time, and sometimes some users just don't like it
[14:11] <linda> EuroNerd: I didn't understand what your complaint was.  And I'm curious.
[14:11] <Vanuatoo> Can anyone tell me why I can't run java?
[14:11] <Raliegh> Anyone here want to help me stress-test my server? It'd be greatly appreciated.
[14:11] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: no
[14:12] <somsip> Raliegh: what sort of server?
[14:12] <linda> EuroNerd: Maybe you just need a different window manager?
[14:12] <edbian> Vanuatoo: what do you mean?  You can only run java programs.  java itself is not runnable (I don't think)
[14:12] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: not with the details we have at the moment
[14:12] <xangua> Vanuatoo: if you mean install oracle/sun java, is no longer on ubuntu official repository and neither parter's
[14:12] <Vanuatoo> iceroot: file is executable
[14:12] <EuroNerd> edbian, nor do I think it's _useless_, just driving me crazy, since I want something that "just works", and doesn't require googling forever for answers and getting my hands dirty in command line.
[14:12] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: jar-file?
[14:12] <Vanuatoo> no
[14:12] <guzu> Raliegh, inquisitor? what kind of stress?
[14:12] <edbian> Vanuatoo: how are you running it?
[14:12] <Vanuatoo> I've unpacked
[14:13] <edbian> EuroNerd: buy a mac
[14:13] <Raliegh> Ubuntu. I just need people to test concurrent connections via my custom Icecast-Flash page. Listen to some nice tunes in the process
[14:13] <EuroNerd> linda, you mean the recent specific problem with windows that I've described?
[14:13] <antnash> Hi guys. I'm getting an error when I open my file manager saying that it's having trouble stating ~/.gvfs Transport endpoint is not connecting
[14:13] <Raliegh> http://199.19.105.89/player.swf
[14:13] <somsip> Raliegh: could you use ab (apache bench) ?
[14:13] <xangua> Vanuatoo: if you want to install oracle/sun java, there is a PPA for version 6 and manual install instructions for 7 on webupd8 blog
[14:13] <Vanuatoo> I'm running it in the terminal: jdk1.7.0_01/bin/java
[14:13] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[14:13] <antnash> I get the same transport endpoint error if I try and cd into ~/.gvfs
[14:13] <iceroot> edbian: sugessting someone to buy a mac is the worst thing a person can do
[14:13] <Raliegh> I'm also trying to collect statistics on my Icecast listener-memory ratio.
[14:13] <edbian> iceroot: hahahah, opinion :)
[14:13] <Vanuatoo> and it does exist
[14:13] <iceroot> edbian: true!!!
[14:14] <iceroot> edbian: :)
[14:14] <Vanuatoo> I'm on livecd now, does it make any difference?
[14:14] <edbian> iceroot: for the record I would never buy a mac.  They're too expensive
[14:14] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: tha is the java-binary.
[14:14] <edbian> Vanuatoo: no, you should be able to run java stuff on the live CD
[14:14] <edbian> Vanuatoo: how are you running it?
[14:14] <bilygates> @xangua @linda @guzu apparently you can do "aptitude hold <package>" so it won't update, but you can't set it for a specific repo. but thank you anyway!
[14:14] <Vanuatoo> I've downloaded tar.gz file from Oracle, unpacked it and try to run it
[14:14] <guzu> np bilygates
[14:14] <Raliegh> No help? Damn, oh wells, lol.
[14:14] <antnash> got it
[14:15] <edbian> Vanuatoo: with ./ ?
[14:15] <linda> Vanuatoo: What is this file?
[14:15] <linda> Vanuatoo: what's it for?
[14:15] <Vanuatoo> Same
[14:15] <EuroNerd> bahr, I don't think it's a big issue either, it's just that there's a gazillion of issues like that and this is just the most recent one. And some of them are very obvious - like the one described. Why on earth would anyone introduce such a limitation? How does it make life simpler for anyone?
[14:15] <Vanuatoo> file java
[14:15] <Vanuatoo> java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
[14:15] <linda> Vanuatoo: ls -l filename #See if it has executable bit set.
[14:15] <matt123412> Ok, i'm sort fo getting somewhere now
[14:15] <xangua> Vanuatoo: did you see the install instructions in the post i send you¿
[14:16] <edbian> Vanuatoo: what happens when you ./ it ?  errors?
[14:16] <matt123412> editing my ~/.bash_profile file doesn't work, btu if i run FSLDIR=/usr/share/fsl/4.1/ . ${FSLDIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.sh PATH=${FSLDIR}/bin:${PATH} export FSLDIR PATH in the terminal, it does what it's supposed to do
[14:16] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: that is the real java-binary, you dont want to run it directly
[14:16] <Vanuatoo> ./java: No such file or directory
[14:16] <matt123412> so for whatever reason the terminal isn't reading the ~/.bash_profile when i start it up?
[14:16] <iceroot> Vanuatoo: you want something like /opt/bin/java -jar foo.jar
[14:17] <linda> Vanuatoo: What is the full name of the file?
[14:17] <iceroot> matt123412: #bash
[14:17] <matt123412> does that reload the .bash_profile?
[14:18] <Vanuatoo> linda: /home/ubuntu/jdk1.7.0_01/bin/java
[14:18] <matt123412> no luck
[14:18] <bahr> EuroNerd: well I'm sure there has been some good reasoning behind, ask the developers who made it? Issues arise all the time you know. Maybe you style of use has just been "hit hard" by the recent design decisions made, where others might not experience these issues. There will be such issues all the time, but compared to other linux distributions I think that Ubuntu is one of those that has the fewest amount of "issues"
[14:18] <iceroot> matt123412: that is the channel for bash here on freenode
[14:18] <matt123412> I see
[14:18] <matt123412> thanks,
[14:18] <Vanuatoo> /home/ubuntu/jdk1.7.0_01/bin/java
[14:19] <Vanuatoo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 ubuntu ubuntu 5654 2011-10-03 08:39 /home/ubuntu/jdk1.7.0_01/bin/java
[14:19] <yeats> !botsnack
[14:20] <Anomie21> How do I launch an application in Xubuntu? I read this "To start up the GUI click F2 and enter domainjoin-gui to open up the graphical tool "  // but F2 does nothing?
[14:20] <yeats> Anomie21: do Alt-F2
[14:20] <Anomie21> yeats: ty
[14:23] <G4rb4> linda: did you resolve your graphics problem?
[14:23] <Anomie21> It says I'm joined to my works domain, but how do I mount the network drives onto my PC?
[14:26]  * phlak_user is back
[14:26] <Dante_> how can i install gnome3 on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:26] <MrMist1> Hi all
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> Dante_  i think you need a PPA
[14:27] <Dante_> i already got that ...
[14:27] <phlak_user> Dante_: are you stuck someplace in the installation ?
[14:27] <allo> hi
[14:27] <Dante_> i added this repo ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[14:27] <allo> does somebody know a commandlinetool to import a exported network manager (vpn) configuration?
[14:28] <Dante_> i did the apt-get update
[14:28] <Dante_> what i do after that ?
[14:28] <theadmin> allo: Why not use the network manager cli (nmcli)?
[14:28] <phlak_user> Dante_: sudo apt-get install gnome3
[14:28] <allo> theadmin: it does not seem to have options to import vpn-settings?
[14:28] <allo> and the gui lets me import and export settings
[14:28] <allo> so i would like to export them, and import them via cli
[14:29] <Dante_> i guess i tried that but not working .. wait a sec let me try again
[14:29] <allo> because we want to import them automated on fresh installs
[14:29] <xangua> Dante_: if you want gnome3 please upgrade to oneiric
[14:29] <totyko_> j #ubuntu-es
[14:30] <EuroNerd> bahr, I totally disagree. Being able to resize windows is not some fancy pesky wish that I have. If a system suddenly stops supporting it in certain situations because the "visionary" leader of Canonical had some new "idea", someone should be punched in the face.
[14:30] <allo> or maybe any other option to add a vpnc cisco-vpn to the networkmanager via script
[14:30] <Dante_> xangua: but i can't upgrade .....
[14:30] <xangua> Dante_: then download oneiric and install from scratch
[14:30] <iceroot> EuroNerd: what support is stopped?
[14:30] <Ph0en1x> ikonia, JustinBieba says hi
[14:31] <Dante_> i can't migrate from 10.04 ... thats why i just needed to know if it's possible to install gnome3 shell on it ??
[14:31] <Dante_> lts
[14:31] <iceroot> Dante_: it will break the system
[14:31] <theadmin> EuroNerd: It's not Ubuntu's fault, it's GNOME 3
[14:32] <iceroot> Dante_: 11.04 is the first where you can install gnome3 and even there it will break things
[14:32] <Dante_> can't i compile the gnome3 binaries for my system ??
[14:32] <iceroot> EuroNerd: canocial has nothing to do with the fact that gnome2 is stopped from the gnome-project
[14:32] <van7hu> hi folks
[14:32] <dr_willis> Dante_:  it will break the gnome2 thats on the system i belive
[14:32] <iceroot> Dante_: yes as dr_willis said
[14:33] <iceroot> Dante_: the problem is not to install gnome3
[14:33] <EuroNerd> theadmin, may well be, but as a casual user (i.e. one of "those Windows people", whom Ubuntu is supposed to target) I'm not supposed to know that or care about it.
[14:33] <Ph0en1x> dr_willis, hi
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> EuroNerd  now you know ;)
[14:33] <Ph0en1x> any relation to bruce willis?
[14:33] <van7hu> my ubuntu (10.04) system plays welcome sound when I login, but totem and others could not sound, what would be the problem?
[14:33] <Dante_> hmmm... well if i install gnome3 it surely will break a lot of things on my system i guess ..
[14:34] <Dante_> okay.. thanks anyway ... i will do a lil googling about it ...
[14:35] <phunyguy_work> ok, please help me.  This works on all of my other workstations, but one fully updated ubuntu 11.10 PC I can connect to via vino-server, and can see the screen, but I can't control the remote mouse or keyboard.  (NOT set to view only)
[14:35] <phunyguy_work> any ideas?
[14:36] <Floodman> Àâòîð: Ëåòó÷èé Ìûøü
[14:36] <Floodman> Íàçâàíèå: "Ñîëäàòñêàÿ øëþõà"
[14:36] <Zap-W> is there an unofficial repository where I might find packages for 9.04
[14:36] <Floodman> Ñëóæèë ÿ â Çàáàéêàëüå, â çàõîëóñòíîì ãàðíèçîííîì ãîðîäêå, ãäå áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ñîëäàò è îôèöåðîâ ñîñòàâëÿëè "ëèöà êàâêàçñêîé íàöèîíàëüíîñòè". Â îñíîâíîì, ýòî áûëè àçåðáàéäæàíöû. Åñòåñòâåííî, ÷òî â íåêîòîðîì îòäàëåíèè îò íàøåé ÷àñòè ðàñïîëàãàëñÿ ñâèíàðíèê, òàêîå ïîäñîáíîå õîçÿéñòâî. Òàì ïîñòîÿííî äåæóðèëè äâà ñîëäàòà, êîòîðûå òàì æå è æèëè â âàãîí÷èêå. Åñòåñòâåííî, ÷òî çà ïîëíîé ìîåé íåñïîñîáíîñòüþ ê âîèíñêîé ñëóæáå ìåíÿ è îòïðàâèëè â ñâèíàðè. Â ñâèíàðêè. Òî åñò
[14:36] <capcook> ??
[14:36] <phunyguy_work> and here we go
[14:36] <pendergast> kick him please
[14:36] <Floodman>      Ïåðâàÿ íåäåëÿ ïðîøëà, â îáùåì-òî, ñïîêîéíî. Òî åñòü, êîíå÷íî, ðàáîòàòü íà ñâèíàðíèêå ìíå ïðèõîäèëîñü îäíîìó - êîðìèòü ÷åòûðåõ ñâèíåé, íîñèòü èì åäó, áåãàòü â ñòîëîâóþ çà çàâòðàêîì, îáåäîì è óæèíîì äëÿ Øàìèëÿ. Øàìèëü íå äåëàë íè÷åãî, îí öåëûìè äíÿìè ãäå-òî ïðîïàäàë, ÷àñòåíüêî âîçâðàùàëñÿ ïüÿíåíüêèì è òîãäà íà÷èíàë ìåíÿ "ñòðîèòü". Ñèëüíî ìåíÿ îí íå áèë, ïàðó ðàç òîëüêî ñòóêíóë ïî ùåêàì, êîãäà ÿ ïîïðîáîâàë åìó ÷òî-òî âîçðàçèòü. Òîãäà îí ïîòðåáîâàë, ÷òîáû ÿ
[14:36] <yeats> !op
[14:36] <jrib1> Zap-W: why?  9.04 is no longer supported
[14:37] <Floodman>      ß óæå ëåã ñïàòü, êîãäà â âàãîí÷èê ââàëèëñÿ âäðûçã ïüÿíûé Øàìèëü. "Ýòî ÷òî òàêîå?- çàîðàë îí - Äæèãèòà íåò äîìà, à áàáà óæå ñïàòü çàâàëèëàñü? Êàòüêà, ïîäúåì, åáàíàÿ ñóêà!" ß âñêî÷èë ñ ëåæàíêè, âñòàë ïåðåä íèì. Îí ñåë íà ëåæàíêó, ÿ îïóñòèëñÿ ïåðåä íèì íà êîëåíè, ñòàùèë ñ íåãî ñàïîãè. À êîãäà ïîñìîòðåë íà Øàìèëÿ, îí óæå ðàññòåãíóë øèðèíêó è äðî÷èë ñâîé äëèííûé ÷ëåí. È ñìîòðåë íà ìåíÿ. È ìîë÷àë. È óëûáàëñÿ. Î÷åíü íåõîðîøî óëûáàëñÿ. ß ñìîòðåë íà íåãî, ïîòîì 
[14:37] <capcook> can someone kick him out?
[14:37] <linda> A lot of the window manager complaints are from people that should be on LTS, (imho)
[14:37] <Zap-W> jrib1: I know, still is there?
[14:37] <Floodman>      "Íó ÷¸ ñìîòðèøü,- ñêàçàë Øàìèëü - Æèâîãî õóÿ íå âèäåëà, ÷òî ëè? À Êàòÿ?" ß ìîë÷àë. Òîãäà îí ñõâàòèë ìåíÿ çà ãîëîâó è ïðèòÿíóë ê ñåáå òàê, ÷òî ÿ óòêíóëñÿ ëèöîì ïðÿìî åìó â ïàõ. È òîãäà ÿ ïîöåëîâàë åãî ÷ëåí, ïîòîì ñòàë îáëèçûâàòü, ïîòîì âçÿë â ðîò... "Õîðîøî, áëÿ", - ñêàçàë Øàìèëü. Ïîòîì îí íà÷àë äâèãàòü òàçîì, çàãîíÿÿ ÷ëåí ìåíÿ ÷óòü ëè íå â ñàìîå ìîå ãîðëî, à ïîòîì ìíå â ðîò áðûçíóëà ãóñòàÿ ãîðüêàÿ ñïåðìà. ß ñ òðóäîì ñäåðæàë òîøíîòó è ïðîãëîòèë ñïåðìó.
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> don't give attention, guys
[14:37] <jrib1> Zap-W: yes, but why.
[14:37] <capcook> if your trying a bot, please go to #bots
[14:37] <Floodman>      "Ìàëàäýö, Êàòüêà,- òîëüêî è ñêàçàë Øàìèëü ïåðåä òåì êàê îòêèíóòüñÿ íà ñïèíó è çàõðàïåòü. ß óìûëñÿ âîäîé èç âåäðà è òîæå ëåã ñïàòü.
[14:37] <Zap-W> jrib1: where?
[14:37] <linda> !ops
[14:37] <Floodman>      Óòðîì Øàìèëü êàê íè â ÷åì íå áûâàëî ïîãíàë ìåíÿ â ñòîëîâóþ, ïîòîì ïîåë è óøåë, îñòàâèâ íà ìíå âñþ çàáîòó î ñâèíàðíèêå. Âðîäå áû íè÷åãî íå ñëó÷èëîñü. Íî ÿ áûë òåïåðü Êàòüêîé. Ñîâåðøåííî Êàòüêîé. Ñîëäàòñêîé ñâèíàðêîé.
[14:37] <Floodman>      À âå÷åðîì Øàìèëü ñíîâà âåðíóëñÿ. Íî ïî÷òè òðåçâûé è ñ íèì ïðèøëè åùå äâîå åãî çåìëÿêîâ. Îíè ïðèíåñëè ñ ñîáîé áóòûëêó âîäêè, Øàìèëü ïðèêàçàë ìíå ïðèãîòîâèòü çàêóñêó. Îíè ñèäåëè, ïèëè, ðàçãîâàðèâàëè íà ñâîåì ÿçûêå è ïåðèîäè÷åñêè ðàçãëÿäûâàëè ìåíÿ. ß ñèäåë â óãîëêå. Òàê ìíå ñêàçàë Øàìèëü. "Ñèäè, ïîêà íå ïîçîâó, - ñêàçàë îí. "Ìîæåò, ÿ ïîêà â ðîòó ñõîæó? - ðîáêî ñïðîñèë ÿ. "Ñèäè òóò. Âäðóã ïîíàäîáèøüñÿ, - ñêàçàë Øàìèëü, è ÷òî-òî äîáàâèë ñâîèì äðóçüÿì. Îíè ðà
[14:38] <phunyguy_work> fantastic
[14:38] <phunyguy_work> thanks
[14:38] <bahr> EuroNerd: but the if the removal of the resize feature is due to decisions made in gnome 3, then you are free to change to another window manager. Ubuntu does not force you to use gnome 3. You can't expect a completely different OS to behave similar to Windows. And gnome 3 has made a lot of controversial design decions, and some like them others not. I.e I hate the fact that they removed the minimize button, but I don't feel that I'm a
[14:38] <bahr> llowed to complain about it, cause I'm free to switch to another window manager if I want or an entire new distro. I don't really know why they removed that resizing feature, but because you don't like it, it hardly indicates that it is a bad design decision at all. It just not suits your style of use.
[14:38] <phunyguy_work> (sorry for the repost, my original rolled off the screen quickly thanks to Floodman): ok, please help me.  This works on all of my other workstations, but one fully updated ubuntu 11.10 PC I can connect to via vino-server, and can see the screen, but I can't control the remote mouse or keyboard.  (NOT set to view only)
[14:39] <pendergast> if using wubi, which device do I run grub for? /dev/null0 ?
[14:40] <yeats> phunyguy_work: I would try to run it via the command line to see what error messages are generated (that or look for a log that it may be logging to)
[14:40] <pendergast> sry, /dev/loop0
[14:40] <jrib> Zap-W: you should upgrade to a supported release.  Ubottu will send you instructions
[14:40] <jrib> !upgrade | Zap-W
[14:40] <phunyguy_work> yeats, i would if I could, but I even forgot to install SSH on taht workstation
[14:40] <phunyguy_work> that*
[14:40] <yeats> phunyguy_work: do you not have physical access to the machine?
[14:40] <phunyguy_work> yeats, not at the moment
[14:40] <phunyguy_work> i can see the screen but can't do anything...
[14:41] <phunyguy_work> (remotely)
[14:41] <yeats> phunyguy_work: what about from the client end?
[14:41] <phunyguy_work> yeats, i can't ssh, but I can VNC, and can't control the desktop
[14:42] <yeats> phunyguy_work: what I'm saying is, can you run the program you're using to access the desktop from the command line to see if there are errors? (this is the only way I know to troubleshoot this kind of thing)
[14:42]  * phunyguy_work kicks himself in the face for forgetting to install ssh
[14:43] <phunyguy_work> aww dangit.  I see the issue.  the config on the server end must be set to not allow control
[14:43] <phunyguy_work> because the popup on the server end says that someone is "viewing" not controlling
[14:43] <phunyguy_work> ><
[14:43] <Zap-W> jrib: where is the repository for 9.04
[14:44] <phunyguy_work> so yeats, am I boned?
[14:44] <bahr> Can someone recommend a pdf editor which allows me to highlight text, make lines, bubbles, etc.? The standard one, doesn't really have a lot of features
[14:44] <yeats> phunyguy_work: I can't think of a way you can get to the machine remotely, if that's what you mean
[14:44] <jrib> Zap-W: you keep ignoring my question as to why you want the repositories for some reason.  That's fine.  But I'm going to suggest to you one more time that you should upgrade.  I've sent you the upgrade instructions.  If you read them, you'll see that the repositories are listed as part of the instructions.
[14:45] <Zap-W> jrib: why do you care, I want it
[14:45] <jrib> Zap-W: I care because running an unsupported release is dangerous.
[14:45] <cbird> bahr: pdfedit?
[14:45] <Zap-W> jrib: but it is me who is running why do you care
[14:45] <Zap-W> jrib: heh
[14:46] <JustinSanders> ubuntu runs good on a netbook
[14:46] <jrib> Zap-W: when I provide support, I give advice I would want given to me
[14:46] <G4rb4> bahr, try xournal
[14:46] <Zap-W> jrib: but I didn't ask for an advice
[14:46] <G4rb4> bahr: okular also allows review
[14:46] <jrib> Zap-W: you did :)
[14:46] <Zap-W> jrib: no :)
[14:47] <jrib> Zap-W: anyway, I've given you your answer already
[14:47] <G4rb4> bahr: but okular will install all kde dependencies
[14:47] <JustinSanders> dose anybody know how to get a good driver got a HP Mini 210 touch pad
[14:47] <bahr> G4rb4: ok thanks :)
[14:47] <JustinSanders> its multi-touch but i cant seem to find anyhting for it
[14:48] <dsdssd> :)
[14:48] <dsdssd> :)
[14:48] <martian> Zap-W: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:48] <pendergast> could someone just confirm that the place for grub is loop0 under wubi?
[14:49] <Zap-W> martian: thank you... god bless
[14:49] <zykotick9> pendergast, there are wubi specific instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:49] <pendergast> thanks zykotick9
[14:50] <martian> jrib is right about danger. Security threats won't be patched, but if it's a non-networked box, no biggie.
[14:50] <atlasair> i would like to try awesome, I've installed it, how do i now change the window manager?
[14:50] <jrib> atlasair: at the login screen, you should be able to change your session
[14:51] <Gentoo64> n
[14:52] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have kubuntu on an ASUS EeePC 1005HA running Kubuntu 11.10.  All fan speed monitoring apps / widgets do not detect sensors on the system. In previous versions, I could monitor the fan speed under ubuntu. Is there any workarround for this?
[14:53] <atlasair> jrib, okay I'll have a look
[14:53] <pendergast> GirlyGirl: previous versions on the same computer?
[14:53] <caddoo> GirlyGirl: you chosen that name to get helped quicker?
[14:53] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Yes
[14:54] <pendergast> caddoo: my thoughts also ^^
[14:54] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: caddoo This is my usual nick on freenode
[14:54] <pendergast> GirlyGirl: try installing the version from a previous release that worked
[14:55] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Version of what?
[14:55] <pendergast> the monitoring app that worked
[14:55] <sddssds> :(
[14:55] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Its same with all monitoring apps
[14:55] <JustinSanders> i think he is saying install a older version on the app, or a older version of kubuntu
[14:55] <Vanuatoo> Ok I've made java work. It seems that when you load ubuntu live cd x64 build, you cannot run 32bit java
[14:55] <pendergast> you said previous versions had it working
[14:55] <Vanuatoo> I've downloaded 64 bit java and now it's running
[14:56] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Version of Kubuntu not the app
[14:56] <GirlyGirl> Version of the app is same anyways
[14:56] <pendergast> GirlyGirl: I doubt that
[14:57]  * phlak_user changed servers
[14:58] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: It was same before as I used a backport version of kde with a widget for monitoring and that worked on natty ... the same versions on Oneiric did not
[14:59] <yeats> GirlyGirl: have you tried running 'sensors' on the command line?
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Do you have a solution or are you taking me in circles here with your "i doubt that" remarks
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> yeats: Yes
[15:00] <ubentobox> hey everyone
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> yeats: No output concerning fan speed only temperature
[15:00] <ubentobox> have a question that has been unanswered on the forums for months.  Don't even think anyone even took a glance at it
[15:00] <yeats> GirlyGirl: ok
[15:00] <pendergast> GirlyGirl: having that kind of username and being cocky is not going to help you
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> !language | pendergast
[15:01] <ubentobox> When starting Ubuntu 11.04 a "search" gump is fighting with the keychain for control, and it makes it impossible to use my netbook.  Does anyone know how to shut that off at launch?
[15:01] <ubentobox> It shows up as gnome do when I click the search window
[15:01] <ubentobox> but i dont want to kill the whole process just the search
[15:01] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Besides there is nothing wrong with my username
[15:02] <brianherman> i put in a new video card in ubuntu and then the display went away
[15:03] <brianherman> in my box
[15:03] <brianherman> do i have to reinstall?
[15:03] <nebajoth> ladies and gentlemen: ctrl-alt-t shortcut not opening terminal in gnome3. I googled around on my home workstation and found a bug report for this recommending a fix of blowing away some configuration file and letting it recreate it. This worked, but I cannot now re-find the link (have been googling for 15+ minutes). Any idea what the fix for this is?
[15:03] <szal_> !details | brianherman
[15:03] <nebajoth> brianherman: try removing your xorg.conf if you have one
[15:03] <brianherman> oh ok
[15:03] <brianherman> and it will regen the xorg.conf
[15:03] <brianherman> when i reboot
[15:03] <nebajoth> yes
[15:03] <brianherman> ok
[15:03] <brianherman> thanks
[15:04] <nebajoth> probably don't even need to reboot
[15:04] <ubentobox> When starting Ubuntu 11.04 a "search" gump is fighting with the keychain for control, and it makes it impossible to use my netbook.  Does anyone know how to shut that off at launch?
[15:04] <brianherman> well i have to turn it off when i install it
[15:04] <nebajoth> just /etc/init.d/{gdm/kdm/lightdm} restart
[15:04] <Phoenix87> some murrine themes don't seem to be working correctly, controls looks ugly but window borders are pretty fine
[15:04] <brianherman> ok thanks
[15:04] <brianherman> well when i install the card in 11.10 i get no monitors what so ever
[15:04] <brianherman> maybe its my bios
[15:04] <phunyguy_work> !patience | ubentobox
[15:04] <yeats> brianherman: what model card?
[15:05] <brianherman> 4670
[15:05] <brianherman> there is one on the motherboard
[15:05] <brianherman> ati 4670
[15:05] <brianherman> and a 3300 on the motherboard
[15:05] <yeats> !ati
[15:05] <yeats> brianherman: see if that helps
[15:05] <brianherman> ok
[15:05] <brianherman> ill try again
[15:05] <ubentobox> I have asked for support since JUNE and still havent had a single answer, see? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799486
[15:06] <brianherman> thank you yeats
[15:06] <Dante_> hii... how can i compile the gnome3 for my ubuntu 10.04 from the source ??
[15:06] <pendergast> ubentobox: the search task may be called "tracker" or some variation thereof
[15:07] <mehlol> Dante_ why not just use the packages?
[15:07] <yeats> Dante_: I would upgrade to 11.10 and install the gnome-shell package
[15:07] <mehlol> Or you could add the papa.
[15:07] <pendergast> you may get some joy from just uninstalling the appropriate pkg
[15:07] <mehlol> *ppa, sorry, on iPad
[15:07] <yeats> Dante_: far less trouble and no breakage ;-)
[15:07] <Dante_> i like 10.04 and dont wanna upgrade ....
[15:07] <Dante_> :(
[15:08] <mehlol> Dante_ generally you can get the source, build it,
[15:08] <ubentobox> pendergast: Tracker you say?  Is this something that would be nested inside the gnome do config?  It is probably going to take me a good 10 tries to restart ubuntu just to get past the conflicting keychain/GD search
[15:08] <Dante_> yeahh.. i got the gnome source site .. but wat all sources do i need to compile i dont have a list ...
[15:08] <mehlol> And then install, but it would take time to build gnome3, depending on processor specs, and you would need a whole bunch of packages.
[15:09] <pendergast> ubentobox: why don't you go via commandline: Ctl+Alt+F2 iirc (for tty2)
[15:09] <mehlol> Dante_ what do you want?
[15:09] <dr_willis> even compiling it would break the gnome2 thats installed wouldent it.
[15:09] <pendergast> then you can kill it e.g. via killall after inspecting "ps -A"
[15:09] <ubentobox> pendergast: I try, but the problem is it locks the system completely.  I cannot do anything until the keychain is entered into, but like I said it locks the system out because the tracker keeps jumping to the forefront for some reason
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> dr_willis, it shouldn't
[15:10] <Dante_> the list of all the packages for gnome3 ... i need to build
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> make install would break it
[15:10] <yeats> ubentobox: you might experiment with either 1) creating a new user and seeing if the problem recurs or 2) moving your /home/<username> directory out of the way.  In either case you could migrate your data to the newly-created home directory
[15:10] <Dante_> from the source
[15:10] <dr_willis> ubentobox:  you can set the keyring to not ask for a password.. as a test/work around.
[15:10] <pendergast> ubentobox: you can boot into a lower runlevel to get access to console if nothing else gives
[15:10] <Dante_> i got the gnome-session , gnome-panel , gnome-shell
[15:10] <Dante_> gnome-terminal
[15:11] <yeats> Dante_: I don't think anyone in this channel is going to recommend that you do what you're trying to do ;-)
[15:11] <zykotick9> yeats, agreed
[15:11] <dr_willis> I definatly see a broken system for Dante_   :)
[15:11] <Dante_> i know ... but i just wanna try it what can happen
[15:11] <Dante_> ;)
[15:11] <dr_willis> Dante_:  a complete reinstall to fix it...
[15:11] <ubentobox> lol took me 7 tries but finally got past that stupid tracker
[15:12] <ubentobox> afk a few gotta do some work
[15:12] <Dante_> i already got a back of my entire system ...
[15:12] <Dante_> using tar ...
[15:12] <pendergast> Dante_ aside from what others have said, there should be a compile script available that automates it all for you
[15:12] <Dante_> so i dont have to worry about reinstalling anything
[15:12] <dr_willis> if you want to test out gnome-shell, be easier to just install a disrto that has it in virtualbox. ;)
[15:13] <phunyguy_work> Dante_, if you have the space, an offline dd would have been a better option to backup
[15:13]  * yeats finds it amusing that most of the complaints in this channel are about wanting to revert to GNOME2 and here we have someone wanting to install GNOME3 the hard way ;-)
[15:13] <pendergast> Dante_ dr_willis: or a live disc, even!
[15:13] <Dante_> i got a virtual ... but i got windows on it and it's too much pain to install ubuntu in a virtualbox now :S
[15:13] <Dante_> so i will directly try it on my system ...
[15:14] <zykotick9> Dante_, but compiling gnome3 on top of a distro that wasn't designed to use it - that's not a pain...
[15:14] <yeats> Dante_: nah - installing Ubuntu in Vbox takes like 10 minutes
[15:14] <square__> can anyone please help me? i am running ubuntu 10.10 and vmware.. when i launch a java application within a windows vm, mouse and keyboard won't work anymore and it seems x freezes.. when i replug the keyboard i can change to another terminal and reboot.. java in linux based vm's work without problems
[15:14] <Dante_> i have backuped everything using this command : tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[15:14] <brianherman> thanks whoever helped me with the xorg thing
[15:14] <brianherman> it worked
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> Dante_, if you really want to play, grab the ubuntu 11.10 alternate install, and just do a text install.  Then compile away~!
[15:15] <Dante_> i just need a terminal to get everything back to it's place ...
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> then you are starting with a clean slate.
[15:16] <spinx60> hello
[15:16] <Dante_> well .. let me first build all the packages ..... for gnome3 ...
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> HEY
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> HOW CAN I PM SOMEONE IN IRC
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> but if you are going to do that, might as well just upgrade to 11.10 and then install gnome
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> WHAT IS THE COMMAND
[15:16] <Dante_> is there a list for all the source files for gnome3 ?
[15:16] <spinx60> anyone here who can help me out with an issue regarding new install of a new kernel
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> !caps | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:16] <yeats> !pm | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> i dont know how to pm
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> IcePhoenixReborn, /msg <user> <message>
[15:17] <IcePhoenixReborn> ty
[15:17] <ssbpls> ubottu:what does a PM mean?
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> not really a ubuntu support question, and you probably could have googled it, but glad to help
[15:18] <yeats> ssbpls: private message
[15:18] <ssbpls> yeats:thanks
[15:18] <brianherman> use /msg
[15:18] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, are you a bot?
[15:18] <iElectric> are there any know regressions for update batch yesterday?
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> YES ubottu is a bot.
[15:18] <iElectric> lenovo laptop is lagging like shit.
[15:18] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, then just say YES n00b.
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> !language | iElectric
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, are you retarded? dont repeat
[15:19] <yeats> !bot | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:19] <brianherman> IcePheonixReborn: use /msg
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubuntu = troll
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, ^
[15:19] <zykotick9> !botabuse | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:19] <ssbpls> yeats:when someone says "i am a bot",what does he mean?
[15:19] <brianherman> yeats: were you the guy who helped me?
[15:19] <brianherman> yeats: thank you
[15:20] <pendergast> ssbpls: a bot a computer program, not a human being
[15:20] <nebajoth> ctrl-alt-t not opening terminal in gnome3
[15:20] <nebajoth> any idea?
[15:20] <IcePhoenixReborn> pendergast, i live in tron
[15:20] <IcePhoenixReborn> so its the same
[15:20] <yeats> brianherman: I directed you to the ATI link - it was nebajoth I think who suggested the xorg.conf resolution ;-)
[15:20] <ssbpls> yeats:thank you!
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> nebajoth, I would assume you need to set your keyboard shortcuts
[15:20] <brianherman> nebajoth: thank you nebajoth
[15:20] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: they're set properly
[15:21] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: at least to the naked eye :P
[15:21] <brianherman> nebajoth: it worked
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> =D
[15:21] <nebajoth> brianherman: you're welcome
[15:21] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: additionally, ctrl-alt-t should be default
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> nebajoth, I have issues with keyboard shortcuts not working unless a panel has "focus" - like ctrl-alt-l for lock.
[15:22] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, cya in tron
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: all other shortcuts work, including lockscreen
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> so i just click the panel, and then do the kepresses now out of habit
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: its just ctrl-alt-t
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> just providing input
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: yup
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: just providing feedback :P
[15:22] <iElectric> any known regressions on last kernel update batch from yesterday? ubuntu is freezing every 5 sec
[15:23] <phunyguy_work> !patience | iElectric
[15:23] <szal> phunyguy_work: what is it w/ that !patience trigger?
[15:24] <phunyguy_work> folks are asking very quickly.  can still see their previous mesages on my screen
[15:24] <BlouBlou> iElectric: If you think it's kernel issue, run the old one (you can choose it from grub2)
[15:25] <iElectric> BlouBlou: kernel or xorg
[15:25] <iElectric> will try
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> speaking of updates, i need to restart for that batch.
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> bbl
[15:26] <AdvoWork> ive installed the server version of ubuntu 10.04 but sendmail isnt on there, can I just install it?
[15:26] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: you sure can
[15:27] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: apt-get install sendmail
[15:27] <jrr> wubi filesystem is impressive voodoo magic, but sheesh does it fragment the heck out of the ntfs partition
[15:27] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: sudo apt-get install sendmail
[15:27] <Sanus> Okay.  Hello.
[15:27] <Sanus> So
[15:27] <bfreis> Hi, I'm trying to create a bootable usb stick with Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure live image, but "Startup Disk Creator" fails right after I click "Make Startup Disk" saying "Installation Failed". ~/.cache/usb-creator.log says "TypeError: Expected a string or unicode object". Googling, I've found some reported (and fixed) bugs with similar symptoms, but this is different: the bugs I've seen occur when the image's path contains non-ascii characters, which is no
[15:27] <bfreis> t the case here. Any ideas?
[15:29] <nebajoth> bfreis: try installing unetbootin and see if you have luck with that
[15:29] <nebajoth> its a less-integrated liveusb creator
[15:29] <nebajoth> I find I get better success with it generally
[15:30] <bfreis> nebajoth, apt-get install unetbootin wants to install packages "syslinux-themes-debian" and "syslinux-themes-debian-squeeze" as well, won't it create a mess on my system?
[15:30] <nebajoth> nah
[15:31] <nebajoth> bfreis: they're just themes, first of all
[15:31] <nebajoth> bfreis: second, I think that's just to apply to the liveusb if its debian
[15:31] <bfreis> nebajoth, oh, ok
[15:31] <nebajoth> unetbootin has the ability to do a bunch of distros single-click
[15:31] <nebajoth> it will download the iso and apply it to the usb stick
[15:31] <nebajoth> debian included
[15:31] <bfreis> interesting
[15:32] <nebajoth> yeah, I don't use it for that typically
[15:32] <nebajoth> but it seems like it could be handy if you're into flashing lots of distros to usb
[15:32] <nebajoth> it also has the ability to apply an arbitrary iso
[15:32] <nebajoth> which is what you're looking for
[15:32] <bfreis> wow, it has a Windows95-like ugly interface!
[15:32] <nebajoth> yeah, its not super pretty :P
[15:32] <Sanus> Okay
[15:32] <Sanus> Back
[15:32] <nebajoth> which is probably why they don't integrate it into ubuntu
[15:32] <Sanus> Now,
[15:32] <linda> unetbootin is pretty cool.  I keep several ISOs in my ISOs directory and can make a bootable USB stick in minutes.
[15:33] <Sanus> I'm in 10.04... And I don't have a wireless manager.  Help.  :C
[15:33] <nebajoth> Sanus: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:33] <nebajoth> :P
[15:33] <Sanus> Uh, no.
[15:33] <Sanus> Not if it's going to upgrade 10.04.
[15:33] <AdvoWork> nebajoth, and thats it?
[15:33] <linda> All my USB sticks are bootable.
[15:33] <norpan> RaTTuS|BIG: hey, yesterday you said to me to do something with "blablala | pastebinit" to see my cores etc to cpu, could you rememeber what it was?
[15:33] <AdvoWork> no config etc
[15:33] <linda> and different
[15:33] <Sanus> I just went through hoops to install 10.04.  I just need a wireless manager.
[15:33] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: essentially. You might have to do some configuration on the other side. Why Sendmail, though?
[15:33] <linda> Sanus: You need what?
[15:34] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: what are you trying to do?
[15:34] <Sanus> linda: A wireless manager.
[15:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> norpan cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit
[15:34] <linda> Sanus: wicd
[15:34] <Sanus> linda: I thought there were problems with wicd
[15:35] <linda> Sanus: If you don't like what the normal network-manager is doing, install wicd.  I think you can have both but you can remove network-manager if you want.
[15:35] <norpan> RaTTuS|BIG: thank you so much
[15:35] <linda> Sanus: What problems?
[15:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> np - is it better now
[15:35] <linda> Seems to work fine far as I can tell.
[15:35] <Sanus> linda: Network-manager just doesn't seem to detect my net card.
[15:35] <Sanus> linda: I'm guessing I'm going to require updating.
[15:36] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: PM me if you want
[15:37] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have kubuntu on an ASUS EeePC 1005HA running Kubuntu 11.10.  All fan speed monitoring apps / widgets do not detect sensors on the system. In previous versions, I could monitor the fan speed under ubuntu. Is there any workarround for this? I tried running sensors-detect and sensors; they only find the temperature sensors
[15:37] <linda> But you need to install wicd first.  i.e.  sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager #And be sure not to skip the part where it asks if you want to add your user to netdev group.
[15:37] <grendal-prime> ok i got two machines now that everytime i open firefox (or attempt to) i get the error about how its already running and i have to go kill off the process.  It happens every day now.  What is causing that?
[15:37] <linda> Sanus: Yea, you will need to reboot.
[15:38] <Sanus> Rebooting is the least of my worries
[15:38] <dp> is there a way for the alt-tab window to show me the title of my urxvt windows, instead of just "urxvt"?
[15:38] <linda> grendal-prime: pkill firefox
[15:39] <linda> grendal-prime: ALt-F2 pkill firefox
[15:39] <grendal-prime> ya i know how to fix it...problem is..my 11 year old daughter is a bit...unskilled in the area...and although she is learing...she did ask a good question.  "why is that now happeneing when it wasnt before?"
[15:39] <AdvoWork> anyone know how i can find a flatbed scanner that will definaetly work with ubutnu?
[15:39] <AdvoWork> *ubuntu
[15:40] <Qualia> how do i close xterminal
[15:40] <grendal-prime> AdvoWork, most usb's should work..
[15:40] <Qualia> after ctrl alt f1
[15:40] <Qualia> how do i change back to GUI
[15:40] <ocs_> hi, does uck (ubuntu customization kit) work with lubuntu isos ?
[15:40] <linda> grendal-prime: What window manager are you using?  Is she pulling the plug or doing something weird?  What version of firefox is it?  Is the system fully updated?  What is your version number?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Qualia, alt+f7 to get back to GUI (or F8, if F7 fails)
[15:40] <grendal-prime> Qualia, ctrl alt f7
[15:41] <Qualia> Thank you both, but when i get back to Xterm again, theyre open
[15:41] <AdvoWork> grendal-prime, tried a canoscan one and it wont :S so i need to buy one, but I dont want to buy it if it wont work
[15:41] <Qualia> isnt it possible to close it ? :p
[15:41] <zykotick9> grendal-prime, while in VTs you don't need the CTRL - that's an Xorg shortcut (but i think it'll still work)
[15:41] <Qualia> anyway, i guess its my lack of information about xterm. its a kernel module that cant be closed probably
[15:42] <grendal-prime> zykotick9,  oh i missunderstood his environment sorry...
[15:42] <zykotick9> Qualia, the (ctrl+alt+f1 -> f6) aren't actually xterm's they're called Virtual Terminals - and they don't close
[15:42] <AdvoWork> nebajoth, pm'd thanks
[15:43] <Qualia> ok
[15:43] <chris_in_regina> Good morning
[15:43] <chris_in_regina> Good morning
[15:43] <linda> you said that already
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> Nobody responded.  :)
[15:44] <grendal-prime> OOOO you Qualia  yo wanted to know why they were still open...ok..ya what zykotick9 said...they are always there..(thank god)
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> How are you today, Linda?
[15:44] <linda> chris_in_regina: It is probably a good morning in your timezone, but not every one is in your time zone.
[15:44] <linda> I'm fine. Thanks for asking.
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> True - where are you?
[15:45] <Kim4x> ...
[15:45] <chris_in_regina> I am in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.
[15:45] <linda> it's morning here too.
[15:45] <grendal-prime> chris_in_regina, IM DOING GREAT...I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AND IM GOING TO GO SURFING LATER
[15:45] <linda> Texas
[15:45] <Kim4x> x)
[15:45] <Koenigsegg> How do I find the window type for the 'Computer locked' or 'Screen locked' window?
[15:45] <grendal-prime> not really
[15:45] <chris_in_regina> Very cool.  :)
[15:45] <linda> grendal-prime: Awesome.... wish I could go
[15:46] <chris_in_regina> Is Texas warm this time of year?
[15:46] <linda> Koenigsegg: Screensaver?
[15:46] <Guest85743> I installed ubuntu while a flash drive was in my computer, and the boot record installed on the flash drive
[15:46] <grendal-prime> I was just kidding..i hate surfing,  its cold..and well there is sharks..deadthings everywhere and..sand, and it gets everywhere.
[15:46] <linda> chris_in_regina: Texas is warm and cold this time of year depending on what time of day it is,.
[15:46] <Guest85743> How can I fix that
[15:46] <zykotick9> chris_in_regina, this isn't really a general chit-chat channel.  Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:47] <Koenigsegg> linda: No, the one that is used when I leave the computer for a while and the screen is locked(enter pw to get back in, etc, etc).
[15:47] <chris_in_regina> Ha!  Tennessee is like that too.  We have eight inches of snow on the ground in Regina.
[15:47] <grendal-prime> my stupid broser is always broke
[15:47] <linda> Koenigsegg: And you want to dissable that function?
[15:47] <Guest85743> Anyone?
[15:47] <linda> Koenigsegg: If so, go to the screensaver options, you'll find it there.
[15:48] <zykotick9> !ot > chris_in_regina
[15:48] <martian> Guest85743: this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:48] <deej1976> Guest85743: 1672 nicks
[15:48] <theadmin> zykotick9: You know, I suggest using | rather than > for ubottu, there's no point in pming people randomly
[15:48] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[15:49] <sandra_> I trust you are doing well
[15:49] <zykotick9> theadmin, they had just PMed me ;)  so i knew they could get them - i ususally do use |
[15:49] <Koenigsegg> linda: No. I'm using a window animation in Compiz, and that Screen locked window is included there. But the animation isn't really suited for a window that covers the whole screen(at least not on this computer..), so I'd like to exclude that window from the animation in compiz settings. But to do that I need to id it somehow.
[15:49] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, I'm booted in, as I can just boot off the flash drive and have it initialize the installation on dev/sda1, is it possible to just install grub?
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> It's ubuntu server
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Shouldve mentioned that^^
[15:50] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: I have never had to do it myself, but I'm pretty sure that page I linked to explains how to do just that
[15:50] <luca> dear friends I have a problem with a form html i a file php
[15:50] <sandra_> I would like to ask if any of you are experiencing  glitches with Skype and staying connected with Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> I see thank you martian
[15:50] <linda> Koenigsegg: Someone else will have to answer your question on that.  I do not use compiz  and am not up on that sort of stuff.
[15:51] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: even thought it references windows, the topic is restoring a grub installation that was destroyed by windows (or in your case, that never existed)
[15:51] <Koenigsegg> linda: Thanks anyway :).
[15:51] <linda> sandra_: Is it dropping calls?  Or just disconnecting from the network?
[15:51] <linda> while not in a call....
[15:51] <bfreis> nebajoth, looks like it worked!
[15:52] <bfreis> nebajoth, it took *forever* to boot though...
[15:52] <linda> I use skype but on my 10.04 PC not on the 11.10 one, and it never seems to have a problem, but again, that is on 10.04
[15:53] <darbe> hi
[15:53] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, it seems as though my actual hdd isn't mounted?
[15:53] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Http://pastebin.com/R1Pwpb1L
[15:53] <Dante_> do i need gtk-3 for gnome3 ??
[15:53] <sandra_> Well linda my skype seems to work well for  a few minutes then my call will drop and then my wireless connection drops I'm currently on Xubuntu and seem to be doing well which seems all the more confusing lol
[15:53] <theadmin> Dante_: Duh
[15:54] <nebajoth> bfreis: booting time on usb can take a while, especially if its a slow USB stick
[15:54] <sandra_> linda_: natty 11.10 seems to run w/out a hitch as far as skype goes.
[15:54] <linda> sandra_: Sounds like it's a network problem on the LAN
[15:54] <Dante_> well im building the gnome3 packages from source for my ubuntu 10.04 and there is one gtk-3 source file too , do i need to build it too ??
[15:54] <grendal-prime> is gnome3 going to be an option in ubuntu? cause i hate unity
[15:55] <zykotick9> !notunity | grendal-prime
[15:55] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: looks to me like your 550G drive is mounted on /
[15:55] <sandra_> linda_: it only happens when on 11.10  and never happens on 11.04
[15:55] <linda> sandra_: May be that it is dropping the connection to the AP on your LAN
[15:56] <hrolf> Why would I require "Important Security Updates" from unauthenticated sources?
[15:56] <sandra_> linda_: I was wondering if anyone else was suffering from these odd glitches in 11.10
[15:57] <linda> sandra_: You might try look at the wireless signal and settings, see if it is due to dropping connection to the LAN, which I just about imagine is the problem.
[15:57] <Scarra3> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 how do I tell what graphics card my OS is using?
[15:57] <linda> sandra_: YOu are 64bit?
[15:57] <zykotick9> Scarra3, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[15:57] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, right, but how do I specify that drive when using grub-install /dev/XXX
[15:58] <Dante_> well im building the gnome3 packages from source for my ubuntu 10.04 and there is one gtk-3 source file too , do i need to build it to
[15:58] <Dante_> ??
[15:58] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: I'm not really sure I'm afraid. I've never really had to deal with this sorta thing :)
[15:58] <Scarra3> and how do I run .run files threw the terminal
[15:58] <sandra_> linda_: I did check but as I said my windows 7 Linuxmint 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.04 work fine with skype w/out any problems. The problem only occurs with Oneiric 11.10
[15:59] <zykotick9> Dante_, because of your current decision - your issue is no longer #ubuntu related, you shouldn't expect much (if any) support here - and should seek Gnome support directly.
[15:59] <linda> sandra_: 64bit?  or 32?
[15:59] <Dante_> ummm... okay
[16:00] <linda> Scarra3: ls -l  filename.run  #And see if the executable bit is set.
[16:00] <linda> Scarra3: If so, just like any other executable file.
[16:00] <sandra_> linda_: I'm currently on Xubuntu 11.10 which seems to work fine too which is why I'm at a loss in regards Ubuntu 11.10 having problems with skype and intermittent connection loss. I'm  on 64 bit edition.
[16:01] <zykotick9> Scarra3, "./filename.run" once it's executable ("chmod +x filename.run" if it isn't)
[16:01] <grendal-prime> thanks man...the problem im having right now is that the machine that has 11.10 on it ..does not have a very good video card in it (onboard) and no place to put one.
[16:02] <grendal-prime> I cant get it to display anything but 600X800  but i dont need the  compiz stuff
[16:02] <linda> sandra_: Well, the only differnece in xubuntu is the windowmanager is xfce instead of unity and I doubt that would have an effect on skype
[16:02] <grendal-prime> in 10.04 it has some more options for screen resolution.
[16:02] <linda> I could be wrong but....
[16:02] <klonkr> Can anyone help me regarding xrandr and also with aplay? I wonder how i output to my TV through hdmi, well, ive got this working but its mirroring, how do i add a screen? Also, how do i send all audio to it? I can, with aplay, send a secific audiofiles output to it, but how do i send all audio?
[16:03] <linda> klonkr: See man xrandr
[16:04] <klonkr> linda: I did, maybe it's the language barrier, am I looking for panning?
[16:04] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Anyone have any idea as to how to install grub onto the main harddrive rather than booting off of a flash drive?
[16:04] <Scarra3> alright well I booted ubuntu and the screen got all choppy
[16:04] <klonkr> linda: What's a second non-mirroring screen called?
[16:04] <sandra_> linda_: that's why I wondering if anyone else was having any issues with Oneiric 11.10. Oh how I wish Ubuntu would just bring back the classic menu for those of us who think Unity was huge mistake for desktop use. lol
[16:05] <Bisu[Shield]> how do you get firefox native titlebar and borders as opposed to the system's
[16:05] <Bisu[Shield]> I am using gnome 3
[16:05] <klonkr> sandra_: I agree, and choose another distro :)
[16:05] <linda> klonkr: in xrandr it will just be identified by the output device, far as I know...
[16:06] <sandra_> klonkr_: what distro are you currently using ?
[16:06] <ubuntu__> sex!
[16:06] <linda> sandra_: Sounds like you are a good candidate for xfce.  It can be customized to look and feel and function just like gnome2 did in 10.04
[16:06] <ubuntu__> i fuck you)
[16:06] <linda> !ops
[16:07] <sandra_> Oh my who let the minors in lol ?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> linda,, sandra_ ..KDE is a good alternative
[16:07] <sandra_> linda_: mind if I ask  what distro you are currently using ?
[16:08] <linda> BluesKaj: Not as good as xfce. For me anway, I like a window manager that stays out of my way.
[16:08] <sandra_> I did look at KDE and found it very interesting
[16:08] <linda> BluesKaj: But KDE is good to.  Three best ones are gnome2 xfce and KDE  IMHO
[16:09] <BluesKaj> linda, I have no probs with kwin ...works fine from a home user POV
[16:09] <linda> gnome3 has gone into lala land for now.... may be back with us soon but for now, it is a bit too far out for most of our likings.
[16:09] <grendal-prime> used kde for a loooong time...the kio slave is kick ass
[16:10] <linda> I admit KDE 4x is very nice.
[16:10] <sandra_> In my opinion gnome 3 and unity where not a well thought project sadly they seem to have bypassed the wishes of the average end user.
[16:10] <bfreis> nebajoth, damn, I can't boot actually
[16:10] <sandra_> oops thought out..
[16:10] <sandra_> just call me the typo queen
[16:11] <Tobe> can someone please help me. My microphone is always on and i dont have any programs on that require it to be on. when i try to mute it with (alsamixer) it works, but then i cannot use it with my chat programs
[16:11] <sandra_> linda: what distro are you currently using ?
[16:11] <`Viper> en
[16:11] <linda> sandra_: I think the idea behind unity was to simplify things and keep the window manager out of the way.  In some ways they missed the mark.  BUT, it is new!  And WILL be improved.  We just have to see what the future brings.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sandra_, we have alot of ppl disappointed in the latest ubuntu desktop direction , joining Kubuntu for relief
[16:12] <bfreis> I'm trying to boot the live image of Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure on a USB stick, but it shows tons of /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found, then drops to BusyBox and sans (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Any ideas?
[16:12] <theadmin> linda: Hey um, mind if I pm you?
[16:12] <linda> Unity is not THAT bad really.
[16:12] <savagetiger> Tobe: Is it a USB mic? then usually you can not turn it off, unless it has a hardware switch
[16:12] <linda> theadmin: sure
[16:12] <theadmin> linda: Well, actually I already did but haven't gotten any reply
[16:13] <Tobe> savagetiger: no its the kind that plugs into the back of the pc with the jack thing.
[16:13] <Bisu[Shield]> how do you get firefox native titlebar and borders as opposed to the system's.  I am using gnome 3  <-- AM I INVISIBLE?
[16:13] <zykotick9> Bisu[Shield], we read you
[16:13] <savagetiger> In that case there is no on or off, its just picking up noise and sending it to the Soundcard, its standard behaviour actually
[16:14] <theadmin> Bisu[Shield]: Do you mean... Well, honestly, it's a Windows-only thing (that special titlebar with built-in tabs)
[16:14] <rumpe1> Bisu[Shield], install gnome-tweak-tool and configure it in there
[16:14] <Bisu[Shield]> hmmm chrome looks the same on windows and ubuntu, is that not possible with firefox?
[16:14] <savagetiger> Unless you hear yourself through the speakers or headphone, in that case your soundrouting is not configured right :)
[16:15] <Bisu[Shield]> how would gnome-tweak-tool help?
[16:15] <Bisu[Shield]> I have it installed
[16:15] <jerenept> Bisu: it is possible, but chrome uses nonstandard display system.
[16:21] <fornix> my ubuntu 11.10 seems sluggish. top command gives ksoftirqd using 100% CPU http://pastebin.com/KcAUYa3B Why is it using all my CPU ?
[16:23] <dssdsd> :)
[16:23] <dssdsd> :D
[16:23] <dssdsd> :(
[16:25] <rhizmoe> why is there such a delay when i open a directory in nautilus? seems to be a lot of perpetual disk scanning.
[16:25] <dssdsd> (A)
[16:25] <dssdsd> (L)
[16:25] <rhizmoe> bored?
[16:26] <dssdsd> (6)
[16:26] <Naked89> How to install libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) in ubuntu10.04?
[16:27] <Kim4x> fornix:  cat /proc/interrupts
[16:27] <Naked89> How to install libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) in ubuntu10.04?
[16:27] <rhizmoe> Naked89: looks like it's in qt4-x11
[16:27] <rhizmoe> Naked89: and don't repeat every minute
[16:28] <Naked89> rhizmoe: What does that mean>
[16:28] <rhizmoe> it means you pasted your question again right after asking it
[16:29] <azertyii> hello there
[16:29] <azertyii> cut is what's for ?
[16:29] <Naked89> rhizmoe: I thought nobody have seen my q.
[16:29] <rhizmoe> Naked89: why, because it wasn't answered instantly?
[16:29] <llutz> azertyii: type "whatis cut"
[16:30] <fornix> Kim4x: just a moment
[16:30] <azertyii> what is cut ?
[16:30] <rhizmoe> man cut
[16:30] <azertyii> ok what is cut ?
[16:30] <azertyii> yes man
[16:30] <llutz> azertyii: in a terminal, thats a command
[16:30] <akSeya> hi folks :)
[16:30] <rhizmoe> azertyii: good one, beavis
[16:30] <azertyii> you don't know ?
[16:30] <azertyii> yes of course it is a command
[16:30] <rhizmoe> azertyii: you've been answered
[16:30] <fergaw> Hi. I'm looking for some nice subtitle editor. It would be nice if it would run in console, dont need any GUI.
[16:30] <llutz> azertyii: stop trolling
[16:31] <fornix> Kim4x: http://pastebin.com/3UzYWSi2 is the output of cat /proc/interrupts
[16:31] <Dante_> hii fellas
[16:31] <akSeya> offtopic question.. "lol" means "laughing out loud". Do people use it to say they are laughing loud or like laughing without reason?!
[16:32] <llutz> akSeya: most just use it without reason, just to show "hey look, i'm dumb"
[16:32] <rhizmoe> akSeya: urban dictionary is thataway ->
[16:32] <rhizmoe> it will educate you to the nuances of the english internet language
[16:34] <Dante_> :P
[16:34] <urthmover> I'm installing 11.10 using a minimal install.  The Kernel to install section has many choices.  What is the difference between linux-server and linux-image-3.0.0-13-server ?
[16:35] <llutz> isn't "inux-server " just a meta package pulling latest PAE-kernel (actually linux-image-3.0.0-13-server)?
[16:38] <Sanus> Okay.  I'm back.
[16:38] <Sanus> And...
[16:39] <Sanus> 10.04 is -not- detecting any of my drivers.
[16:39] <Dante_> wb sanus
[16:39] <Dante_> you mean sound driver ??
[16:39] <Sanus> No wireless connection (It's a laptop), no video drivers, (Radeon HD 6350 or thereabouts)
[16:39] <Sanus> I haven't heard any sounds either.
[16:40] <Dante_> is it dell ??
[16:40] <Dante_> what wireless chipset you got ??
[16:40] <Sanus> HP Compaq Presario cq57
[16:40] <Dante_> broadcom or atheros ??
[16:40] <Sanus> One moment.
[16:40] <Dante_> ok
[16:40] <Sanus> Realtek semiconductor...?
[16:41] <Dante_> thats your sound card i guess ...
[16:41] <Sanus> Can't even enable desktop effects.
[16:41] <Sanus> Nope, ethernet
[16:41] <Dante_> im asking the wireless
[16:41] <Sanus> I know.
[16:41] <Sanus> It's the ethernet and wireless card.
[16:41] <sandra_> linda: do you mind if I ask what it is you do for a living ?
[16:41] <Sanus> Semiconductor doesn't necessarily mean sound.
[16:42] <van7hu> hi folks
[16:42] <Sanus> It literally says "Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Divice 8176 (rev 01)"
[16:42] <Dante_> i know ...
[16:42] <van7hu> is there a way to disable "executable space protector" in ubuntu?
[16:42] <Dante_> well atheros drivers works fine with ubuntu but broadcom are blacklisted ...
[16:42] <Dante_> u need to remove the blacklist if u got broadcom
[16:43] <Dante_> goto system admin and hardware drivers ...
[16:43] <Sanus> No proprietary drivers.
[16:43] <gladosv2> hi guys, what is a good program to burn dvd's in ubuntu? documentation is terribly outdated :(
[16:43] <Dante_> you did a system update ??
[16:43] <Sanus> Yes.
[16:43] <sandra_> odd broadcom is a very popular networking chip I wonder why Ubuntu would black list it ?
[16:44] <Dante_> brasero disk burner
[16:44] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  you mean to CREATE movie dvd's from avi files? or to burn dvd iso images? or make dvd data disks
[16:44] <Chotaz`Work> Is it possible to check the ongoing File Operations on the terminal?
[16:44] <Kim4x> fornix: I really don't know. You should try to analyse with  "cat /proc/interrupts" which service is taking so many ressources
[16:44] <Sanus> ?
[16:44] <gladosv2> movie dvd's from avi files, yes, dr_willis
[16:44] <Dante_> well .. it still is ...
[16:44] <Sanus> What about the disk burner?
[16:44] <zykotick9> gladosv2, check out devede
[16:44] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  i use devede normally for that. Its a bit basic. but it does exactly what i need.. a little weird to learn. but works decently well.
[16:44] <soreau> gladosv2: I second devede
[16:45] <Dante_> brasero disk burner
[16:45] <gladosv2> thanks, I'll check it out :)
[16:45] <Dante_> ^
[16:45] <gladosv2> I recall having problems with brasero, though
[16:45] <soreau> Dante_: You can't create dvd's from avi files with brasero
[16:45] <dr_willis> fun thing about devede. its writen in python. :) i was able to customize it some to be  better for my needs
[16:45] <soreau> dr_willis: interesting, I didn't know that
[16:45] <Chotaz`Work> Is it possible to check ongoing file operations from the shell?
[16:46] <AdvoWork> i think ive got a package on my system called ebox  how can I check, and remove it?
[16:46] <phlak_user> Chotaz`Work: yes
[16:46] <linda> apt-cache search ebox
[16:46] <Sanus> So, Lucid Lynx is not detecting any of my hardware.
[16:46] <dr_willis> ebox was renamed to somthng else i think
[16:46] <dr_willis> !info ebox
[16:46] <Sanus> And it's not updating for any drivers.
[16:46] <dr_willis> !ebox
[16:46] <Dante_> you need a video cd maker ??
[16:46] <phlak_user> Chotaz`Work: processes like cp, mv etc are visible in ps -fe
[16:46] <Chotaz`Work> phlak_user:  thanks =D
[16:47] <linda> sudo apt-get remove ebox
[16:47] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, to check if you have it installed use "dpkg -l | grep ebox"
[16:47] <Dante_> sanus what ubuntu version u use ??
[16:47] <Sanus> Dante_ Lucid Lynx
[16:48] <dr_willis> !lucid
[16:48] <Dante_> u can try upgrading .... i use 10.04 myself though
[16:48] <n4dsp> Hello
[16:48] <AdvoWork> zykotick9, yeah i do, can i completely remove it?
[16:49] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, it's "optional" so that's up to you.
[16:49] <n4dsp> Running 11.04 ,,,,how and can I download Google Earth?
[16:49] <dr_willis> !googleearth
[16:49] <Dante_> n4dsp ... apt-get install googleearth
[16:50] <dr_willis> !info googleearth
[16:50] <Dante_> :)
[16:50] <gladosv2> !multiverse
[16:50] <dr_willis> !info googleearth-package
[16:50] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, heh..google earth will install , but good luck trying to launch it ...it just times out here even with the lsb-core files installed
[16:50] <dr_willis> havent tried it in ages.
[16:50] <n4dsp> will give it a try. thanks
[16:52] <Dante_> anyone here tried installing gnome3 on ubuntu LTS ??
[16:52] <dr_willis> one way to break a system :)
[16:52] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, google maps dos the job now ...it's almost as good as aworking google earth , even has the street view option
[16:52] <soreau> The fonts in google earth here are HUGE. Any idea how to fix it?
[16:53] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  i use my android phone 99% of the time now.
[16:53] <james538227> hey has anyone had much luck installing a wireless driver on a headless ubuntu server especially  the RT2860 ralink driver?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, cool :)
[16:53] <klonkr> Can anyone help me with aplay? I want to output sound over hdmi and Im able to do so with "aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" But is it possible to send all audio with a sinple command?
[16:54] <Dante_> de_willis :what if you build the packages from the source for your system and then install it ??
[16:54] <dr_willis> klonkr:  checked the settings in pavcontrol yet?
[16:54] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i imagine that will break just as badly...
[16:54] <dr_willis> since the packages are 'built from the source' ...
[16:54] <santanuc> hi
[16:55] <dr_willis> how would it be differnt then allready made packages.
[16:55] <klonkr> dr_willis: I run arch and dont have that installed
[16:55] <AdvoWork> zykotick9, dpkg -l | grep ebox lists loads of packages but sudo apt-get remove ebox says it doesnt exist. Any ideas?
[16:55] <santanuc> is there any version of ubuntu to run on tablets like Galaxy Tab?
[16:55] <dr_willis> klonkr:  no idea on arch. pavcontol is part of the pulse audio tools
[16:55] <Dante_> well u need resources to build the packages ... and the packages will be build according to the resources available on my system ...
[16:55] <BluesKaj> klonkr, yeah make your hdmi out Card 0 or default device in alsa.conf
[16:56] <dr_willis> santanuc:  not seen any... yet.
[16:56] <Dante_> not any other ...
[16:56] <Dante_> so it may work ...
[16:56] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i imagine theres some deeper reason for things breaking..
[16:56] <kool_tool> I just installed Ubuntu (64bit) 11.10 on my new PC. Both of my USB scanners worked after the installation (using simple scan); however, they don't after I run & install the 175 + updates. Presently, I re-installed 11.10 on my PC, and am not updating the PC. Is there a work-around for this problem?
[16:56] <klonkr> BluesKaj: but i dont want it to be default, this is my laptop and i just need to be albe to switch to hdmi output sometiems
[16:57] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, you need the specific package name from the "dpkg -l" output, but it looks like the package name is "ebox" (sorry difficult for me to see, as it's not an included package on my non-ubuntu distro)
[16:57] <Dante_> well there is a high possibilty that my gnome2 may completely collapse with gnome3 not even working ...
[16:57] <Dante_> but it's worth a shot ;)
[16:57] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i dont find it worth the effort.. you been asking about this for some time now.. why havent you allready done it?
[16:57] <Dante_> i wanna see how will it respond ...
[16:57] <yrlnry> In KDE, is there a way to change the title of a single window?
[16:58] <Dante_> coz im building the packages right now and installing a virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04
[16:58] <Dante_> i will test it there first ...
[16:58] <Dante_> im not that crazy :S
[16:58] <Dante_> :P
[16:58] <dr_willis> Dante_:  now if you installed Kubuntu, in the vm.. then well it might work...
[16:58] <new2net> How do I change my hostname correctly?  I did it with `sudo hostname newhostname` about two weeks ago but it didn't work, some things are still recognizing my old hostname, some things (terminal) recognize my new hostname.
[16:59] <dr_willis> assuming the breakage is from gnome conflicts
[16:59] <zykotick9> !hostname | new2net
[16:59] <Dante_> yeps ...
[16:59] <BluesKaj> klonkr, pls explain "all audio" do you mean pcm/spdif ?
[16:59] <new2net> zykotick9, Oh wow... I would have never guessed that. Thanks
[17:00] <dr_willis> klonkr:  you are running arch linux right now on it?
[17:00] <zykotick9> new2net, be SURE to change in both files!  that sudo "may not work properly" means sudo won't work!
[17:00] <AdminSetup> Hi....Can I install Ubuntu on a tablet ?
[17:00] <Dante_> well it's easy to change login sessions from gdm but how you do that in xserver ??
[17:00] <dr_willis> AdminSetup:  ive not seen any tablet roms with ubuntu made into them..
[17:01] <new2net> zykotick9, hehe ;) i will make sure to do it like how ubottu told me
[17:01] <klonkr> BluesKaj: I'm not sure what that is, but what I want to do is to send video and audio (movie) over hdmi to my TV and keep my defaults to my laptop
[17:01] <klonkr> dr_willis: yea
[17:01] <dr_willis> klonkr:  if you are using arch linux, then you should be asking in their channel, and checking their decently done faq/wiki pages.
[17:01] <michele> !list
[17:01] <michele> !list
[17:02] <klonkr> BluesKaj: the video part is fixed, easily done with xandr and some flags, but I'm not able to get the sound going
[17:02] <dr_willis> when i plug my laptop into hdmi in ubuntu with gnome. it switches over to the monitor automaticially last i tried it.
[17:02] <dr_willis> well i may have to hit the laptops fn-monitor keys. :)
[17:03] <klonkr> dr_willis: thanks but i've read all there is to read about this in their wiki (and i got video working, yay). Will try to channel, thanks!
[17:03] <santanuc> hi is there any version of ubuntu for tablets like Galaxy Tab
[17:03] <dr_willis> im not sure why you were trying #ubuntu when you were running arch.. the 2 disrtos are about as differnt as they can be. :)
[17:04] <shanky> hi, I wrongly removed /etc/nginx
[17:04] <dr_willis> !find /etc/nginx
[17:04] <klonkr> dr_willis: hehe yea I know, but the command aplay should work the same
[17:04] <dr_willis> klonkr:  ubuntu and gnome use pulse audio.. thus the use of pavcontrol
[17:04] <shanky> dr_willis: thanks
[17:04] <RiceKing> I want the old screen saver menu with the bunch of screensavers back.  How can I without crewing things up?  I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[17:04] <saimanoj> hello everyone.
[17:04] <saimanoj> Is the new patch of the Linux Kernel regarding ASPM problem is being added to precise?
[17:05] <jrib> !precise | saimanoj
[17:05] <llutz> shanky: get the nginx.deb and then: sudo dpkg --force-confmiss -i package.deb
[17:05] <shanky> llutz: that did not work, it was due to nginx-common, it is working now thanks to dr_willis
[17:05] <RiceKing> Ayone?
[17:05] <jrib> shanky: nginx-common according to ubottu.  You should just be able to do something like: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install nginx-common
[17:05] <Jragon> Hi
[17:06] <shanky> jrib: thanks
[17:06] <Dante_> how can u unzip all the tar.bz2 files in a folder ...
[17:06] <Dante_> ??
[17:06] <santanuc> i want to uninstall android and run ubuntu on Galaxy Tab. is it possible?
[17:06] <jrib> Dante_: for loop
[17:06] <Jragon> For some reason my keyboard is not on the British English layout, how can I fix this?
[17:06] <Dante_> huh
[17:06] <murfie> for t in *.tar.bz2; do tar xjf $p; done
[17:06] <Gentoo64> Jragon, setxkbmap gb
[17:06] <murfie> eh, $t
[17:07] <jrib> Jragon: you can also just use the keyboard preferences application
[17:07] <Gentoo64> ^ sorry
[17:07] <Dante_> thanks a lot .. :)
[17:07] <Gentoo64> i assumed hed tried thta
[17:07] <jrib> "$t"
[17:07] <Jragon> Thanks very much Gentoo64
[17:07] <marcin_m> Hi how can i obtain in 11.10 suare layout of virtual pulpits not 4 screens in one line, when i switch the pulpits
[17:07] <Gentoo64> Jragon, did you try the keyboard prefernnces?
[17:08] <marcin_m> ?
[17:08] <Jragon> No
[17:08] <Gentoo64> Jragon, you should be able to add a layout
[17:08] <zykotick9> jrib, hopefully .tar.bz2 files won't have spaces in them ;)
[17:08] <Gentoo64> Jragon, use the preferences instead
[17:09] <beterraba> Hi.On a minimal installation what should i install first; LXDE or LightDM? Do i need to install any X before that?
[17:09] <Gentoo64> doesnt matter
[17:10] <beterraba> Gentoo64: doesn't Xorg?
[17:10] <Jragon> When ever I boot Ubuntu I have my external HDD plugged in, but I have to take it out and re-plug it in, to mount it... How can I automatically mount it?
[17:11] <beterraba> oops
[17:11] <Gentoo64> beterraba, lxde should pull in xorg though
[17:11] <Gentoo64> beterraba, install xorg then lxde then lightdm
[17:11] <Gentoo64> for the sake of it
[17:11] <beterraba> Gentoo64: doesn´t matter LXDE or LightDM. How about X?
[17:11] <Gentoo64> no it doesnt matter what order i mean
[17:11] <beterraba> Gentoo64: thanks so much
[17:12] <Gentoo64> Jragon, add it to fstab
[17:12] <beterraba> Gentoo64: just apt-get install xorg? (sorry)
[17:12] <Jragon> What's fstab?
[17:12] <Gentoo64> beterraba, im not sure the name
[17:12] <Gentoo64> beterraba, apt-cache search xorg
[17:12] <beterraba> Gentoo64: it's ok. thank you!
[17:12] <Gentoo64> probably xorg-server
[17:12] <santanuc> Jragon: u need to have a /etc/fstab entry for the filesystem on ur drive
[17:12] <zykotick9> !fstab | Jragon
[17:12] <zykotick9> Jragon, will you ALWAYS have the external attached?
[17:13] <Jragon> No
[17:13] <Jragon> But most of the time
[17:13] <zykotick9> Jragon, then you might not want to use fstab, or use the noauto option.  Good luck.
[17:13] <Jragon> Okay
[17:13] <Jragon> How can I mount a .cue file?
[17:14] <santanuc> Jragon: then put a mount entry in .profile or .bash_login
[17:14] <zykotick9> Jragon, you can't.  You can try to convert it to ISO but that will fail for many disk image types (especially ones in bin/cue format)
[17:14] <Jragon> Can I mount a .bin then?
[17:15] <zykotick9> Jragon, nope - see above
[17:15] <raheel> how we can change buttons of close and minimize to right side?
[17:15] <Jragon> What can I do to fix this then?
[17:15] <zykotick9> !controls | raheel
[17:16] <Artemis3> Jragon, install a package called acetoneiso
[17:16] <zykotick9> Jragon, Artemis3's suggestion might work
[17:16] <rockbadger2> I'm running mythweb on ubuntu with static IP address. From another computer it works completely fine, so there is a working network connection. However, on the Ubuntu machine, I can't get internet for Firefox/synaptic etc. - any ideas/links?
[17:17] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, see if you have /etc/resolv.conf with valid DNS server inso
[17:17] <zykotick9> s/inso/info/
[17:17] <rhizmoe> you would also need a default gateway
[17:18] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, are you using Network Manager or the interfaces file to set static?
[17:18] <beterraba> Gentoo64: both LXDE and LightDM pull X packages. thanks for your help. :)
[17:18] <Gentoo64> ok
[17:19] <rockbadger2> someone else set it up - last time I used it it was working, but someone may have changed settings when setting up the static ip
[17:19] <Gentoo64> well cat /etc/network/interfaces
[17:19] <rockbadger2> i suspect they would have used network manager though
[17:20] <ubernoob> hi
[17:20] <Gentoo64> hi
[17:20] <santanuc> hi
[17:21] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, in that case you need to investigate the N-M settings for DNS/default gateway then - sorry I haven't used N-M for a while so not sure what you should be looking for, BUT N-M is going to overwrite resolv.conf so checking that is useless.  Good luck.
[17:21] <ubernoob> anyone here use geeqie? I'm trying to configure it so that I can launch pdfs in document viewer, when I use the thumbnails view of geeqie. I can't seem to find any way of doing this...
[17:22] <rockbadger2> thanks all
[17:23] <zykotick9> ubernoob, my geeqie doesn't seem to support PDFs at all
[17:24] <ubernoob> zykotick9, not even to the extent of firing off another program to handle the actual file?
[17:24] <ubernoob> wow, I didn't expect that at all
[17:24] <ubernoob> what's a good general thumbnail viewer then? something that's sort of equivalent to Adobe Bridge?
[17:24] <zykotick9> ubernoob, mine doesn't even show the PDF (but we are probably using different versions, so yours is probably different)
[17:25] <Dante_> how can i build a .deb file from a source file ??
[17:25] <Gentoo64> ubernoob, what about eog
[17:25] <ubernoob> zykotick9, mine didn't either, I had to root around in the preferences to get filters off and to display hidden files
[17:25] <Gentoo64> ubernoob, or feh
[17:25] <Gentoo64> eog is nice
[17:26] <ubernoob> Gentoo64, I've never heard of either (as the name implies, I'm a newbie). Thanks for that. I'll install both and see how I get on with them.
[17:26] <Gentoo64> im pretty sure ubuntu comes with eog
[17:26] <Tahvok> hi there, i've been using openSUSE for about 5 years as a modern user, and recently moved to ubuntu. Is there any guide to move from one distribution to ubuntu?
[17:27] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, no
[17:27] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apart from the package manager and some files, youll just learn as you go. should take less than a day
[17:28] <ubernoob> Gentoo64, oh? I definitely have to look around then 'cos I've installed geeqie just to use the thumbnails to view folders and sort through all the mess I have.
[17:28] <Tahvok> that is what i'm asking, just the beginning (package manager, some good known commands..)
[17:28] <searchfgold> I'm trying to install gtkmm2.0-dev so I can compile a program, does anyone know how to do that?
[17:28] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apt-get instal to install
[17:28] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apt-get remove or apt-get purge to remove. apt-cache search to search
[17:28] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | Dante_
[17:29] <zykotick9> searchfgold, see !checkinstall above as well
[17:29] <th^2> hello. im trying to set up sylpheed for gmail. is there any way to tell sypheed to download like 10 newest mails?
[17:29] <Dante_> thanks ... :)
[17:30] <searchfgold> Thanks, I didn't know about that. But I haven't even gotten to that point yet, it's a ./configure error.
[17:30] <Tahvok> another problem i have, install the video card driver (ati). in opensuse, i just added a repo, then installed two packages from it, called "fglrx" and another "ati - something.." is it the same for ubuntu? is there any guide?
[17:30] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, type in terminal jockey-gtk
[17:30] <Gentoo64> if you cant find it elsewhere
[17:30] <ubernoob> also, is vlc the best video player available? (it's very good and I have no complaints, just curious)
[17:31] <Gentoo64> it should manage the drivers in a gui
[17:31] <zykotick9> !ati | Tahvok
[17:31] <th^2> hello. im trying to set up sylpheed for gmail. is there any way to tell sypheed to download like 10 newest mails?
[17:31] <zykotick9> ubernoob, there is no best, it's what you find best.  VLC is OK, but "mplayer - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux"
[17:32] <BluesKaj> !patience | th^2
[17:32] <Tahvok> Gentoo64, zykotick9 : thanks for all the help!
[17:34] <raheel> how can I add new panel in ubuntu 11.10
[17:35] <theadmin> raheel: You can not.
[17:36] <james538227> hey, has anyone install rt2860 wireless driver on ubuntu server, i have installed the whole thing but need some points in setting ip/wep config
[17:36] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:36] <Qualia> I can't kill a process, it simply doesn't kill the program, the program is stuck (skype)
[17:36] <Qualia> What can i do ?
[17:37] <Rods_Tiger> I can't get gparted to start. I installed it, I start it, it asks for my password, I give it, it gives me a turning wheel for a short while, then nothing. Every time.
[17:38] <zykotick9> Rods_Tiger, try starting it from a terminal, and see if it gives any output - you might need gksudo to start it.
[17:38] <zykotick9> Qualia, do you know the exact PID or the exact process name?
[17:38] <Rods_Tiger> from a terminal I get this: /usr/sbin/gpartedbin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkmm-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:38] <Qualia> yes zykotick9
[17:39] <A|i3N> Hi! I've got lamp installed on one of the local machines, and also on the one I'm on now. On both computers there is a wordpress installation. When I go to the other computer's IP address, the main wordpress index comes up just fine. But when I try to go to wp-admin, it redirects me to wp-adming on *this* computer. I've tried stop apache2 on this machine and it just comes up with 404 so I'm guessing the problem is on the other computer? A
[17:39] <A|i3N> nyone know what causes this?
[17:39] <Rods_Tiger> but surely it's just supposed to work when I click on the icon?
[17:39] <zykotick9> Qualia, basically use "kill -9 PID#" or "killall -9 PROCESSNAME" - don't start using -9 for everything though, you should ONLY use it after trying a regular kill/killall first
[17:39] <new2net> zykotick9, k. now im awake enough to try this
[17:40] <ubernoob> thanks all
[17:40] <ubernoob> bye
[17:40] <zykotick9> new2net, the hostname change - good luck (i'm sure you won't need it though)
[17:41] <new2net> zykotick9, so do I need to use "sudo hostname newHostName" to change it permanently or just edit the files mentioned?
[17:41] <Qualia> zykotick9, thank you kind sir. It worked.
[17:41] <Rods_Tiger> gparted is still not starting, either properly or through the terminal
[17:41] <zykotick9> new2net, don't worry about the hostname command - just change in both files and reboot
[17:41] <luist> hey guys i have a chroot to generate a livecd. i cant run update-initramfs -u to update the loading logo: http://pastie.org/2884835    im following this guide: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p2  (the liveCD is working already, just cant update the loading logo)
[17:41] <zykotick9> Qualia, nice
[17:42] <Rods_Tiger> everything is up to date
[17:43] <Rods_Tiger> never mind, I'll find another app if gparted doesn't work
[17:43] <new2net> zykotick9, so easy :)  gksu gedit /etc/hostname && gksu gedit /etc/hosts
[17:43] <zykotick9> new2net, yup ;)
[17:43] <sirjoebob> Hey all. I have a quick conundrum. I am away from work and need to be able to get to my ubuntu 11.10 box from home. I am connected with SSH but need to enable auto-login so I can access the vino VNC server. I am able to forward X11 over VNC but need actual vnc access to my box
[17:44] <dbolser> hihi
[17:44] <sirjoebob> I meant I can forward x11 over ssh
[17:44] <dbolser> what is the last version of ub to include gnome2, and where can I download it?
[17:45] <zykotick9> dbolser, if your looking for a supported distro with gnome2 i'd suggest debian stable - it'll have gnome2 for probably another year or more.
[17:45] <dbolser> zykotick9: IC
[17:46] <dbolser> and how about ubutu (no support obviously)
[17:46] <zykotick9> dbolser, or 10.04LTS
[17:46] <Artemis3> zykotick9, wheezy switched to gnome3 already... perhaps ubuntu 10.04 lts
[17:46] <dbolser> hmm
[17:46] <sirjoebob> Can anyone tell me how to enable automatic login on ubuntu 11.10 from command line only?
[17:46] <Lin-ZZzZ> damn you guiys type alot
[17:46] <Rods_Tiger> I can't find another partition editor other than gparted, which doesn't work.
[17:47] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:47] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:47] <zivester> how does one exit fullscreen mode with vncviewer?
[17:47] <dbolser> The devs go to all this troube to support the blind, deaf, mobility impaired and so on, but the anally retentive need support too (i.e. don't keep changing things) ;-)
[17:47] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, gdisk is worth if you don't mind cli
[17:47] <Rods_Tiger> gdisk? Ok, I'll try
[17:47] <dbolser> zivester: shift-alt-f11 or something
[17:48] <dbolser> ctrl-shift-backspace...
[17:48] <Jragon> How do I mount my windows drivE#?
[17:48] <new2net> zykotick9, worked... but now unity is kind of odd... is there any way to adjust screen resolution/position for unity?
[17:48] <hrolf> How can I use k3b to create an iso image of a CD ?
[17:48] <Rods_Tiger> gdisk is no use, it can't resize
[17:49] <Jragon> Sorry, how can I mount my windows partition
[17:49] <Guest52766> I just installed openssh-client and server
[17:49] <Jragon> It's in sda1
[17:49] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, is parted failing?
[17:49] <Guest52766> But still i can't login to the pc
[17:49] <zivester> yah i dont want to enter it because i will have to hard reset my comp again.. because i dont know how to kill it
[17:49] <Rods_Tiger> gparted doesn't start at all
[17:49] <dbolser> zykotick9: is 10:04 (with gnome 2) debian only, or is that a ubuntu release too?
[17:49] <Guest52766> and i have forwared port 22 too
[17:49] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, parted is the cli only
[17:49] <zykotick9> dbolser, Ubuntu 10.04LTS is an ubuntu release
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: that comes with gnome 2?
[17:50] <dbolser> Guest52766: which server?
[17:50] <zykotick9> dbolser, yup, no unity at all there
[17:50] <dbolser> the_holstar: which server?
[17:50] <the_holstar> openssh-server
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: ty
[17:50] <th^2> how do i change lubuntu login wallpaper?
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: can I download that somewhere official?
[17:50] <new2net> zykotick9, nevermind.. I got it :) perfect ^_^
[17:50] <zykotick9> dbolser, yup ubuntu.com
[17:50] <Artemis3> dbolser, debian squeeze is the last one with gnome2, but once wheezy becomes the new stable... well i suppose the time old-stable lasts
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: ty
[17:51] <dbolser> 12:50 < Artemis3> dbolser, debian squeeze is the last one with gnome2, but once
[17:51] <dbolser> sorry
[17:51] <dbolser> I meant to say, Artemis3, I'm scared to try Debian
[17:51] <pikaciu> Jragon: it doesn't show in Nautilus side bar ?
[17:51] <ragnarok> Question: i installed an ubuntu 10.10 dvdrom and run apt-get update, upgrade, dist -upgrade. All done. I get a notification from package manager to update to ubuntu 11.04. i run it and it gets packages. WTF?
[17:51] <dbolser> I feel I should stick to ubuntu
[17:51] <Jragon> No, pikaciu
[17:51] <dbolser> really I'm looking for good vmware 'unity' linux (different unity)
[17:52] <Artemis3> dbolser, as you wish, i suggest 10.04lts then... but seriously consider moving to xubuntu/lubuntu
[17:52] <dbolser> yeah... I'm in love with gnome 2 though
[17:52] <Rods_Tiger> never mind, nothing works
[17:52] <dbolser> xbuntu... what is it... xfce, it's nice, but its not gnome2
[17:52] <Artemis3> dbolser, sadly, the gnome developers decided to end that project so...
[17:52] <luist> hey guys i have a chroot to generate a livecd. i cant run update-initramfs -u to update the loading logo: http://pastie.org/2884835    im following this guide: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p2  (the liveCD is working already, just cant update the loading logo)
[17:53] <dbolser> Artemis3: they don't support asburgers spectrum disorders ;-)
[17:54] <dbolser> I can't find a url for 10:04 on ubuntu.com
[17:54] <dbolser> only a fancy downloader that lists two options
[17:54] <pikaciu> Jragon:  you have to mount it in /mnt
[17:54] <Jragon> How?
[17:54] <dbolser> Jragon: man mount
[17:54] <ragnarok> Question: i installed an ubuntu 10.10 dvdrom and run apt-get update, upgrade, dist -upgrade. All done. I get a notification from package manager to update to ubuntu 11.04. i run it and it gets packages. WTF?
[17:54] <dbolser> Jragon: there may be a fancier way though
[17:54] <Artemis3> dbolser, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:54] <zivester> ya, so anyone know how to exist tightvnc fullscreen on ubuntu 11.10
[17:55]  * zivester exit*
[17:55] <dbolser> zivester: ctrl-shift-backspace?
[17:55] <dbolser> Artemis3: ty
[17:55] <theadmin> ragnarok: Well, you're upgrading to Natty now, so it has newer repos, and thus newer packages
[17:55] <zivester> that didn't work for me.. does that work for you?
[17:55] <dbolser> can't remember
[17:56] <sirjoebob> Is it possible to enable autologin for Ubuntu 11.10 from command line?
[17:57] <zykotick9> ragnarok, apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade stays on the same version, the update manager is now upgrading you to a new ubuntu as theadmin noted.
[17:57] <sKeiths> when i start my computer both my network card exist. but after a reboot one no longer exists. the ethX is missing, and the entry in lspci is missing too.
[17:57] <afro> hi
[17:57] <afro> how do I check wich port are in use and what prog are using them?
[17:58] <Dante_> nmap localhost
[17:58] <llutz> afro: sudo lsof -i
[17:58] <Dante_> afro or you can use nessus ...
[17:58] <Dante_> for more details
[17:58] <llutz> afro: or sudo  netstat -tulpen
[17:59] <Jragon> When ever i do a sudo command I get this: sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700
[18:00] <new2net> thats not good
[18:00] <zykotick9> Jragon, what is the output of "ls -ld /var/lib/sudo/"
[18:00] <Jragon> drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 1985-01-01 00:00 /var/lib/sudo/
[18:01] <zykotick9> Jragon, ya, that's world writable
[18:01] <llutz> Jragon: sudo chmod 700 /var/lib/sudo/
[18:03] <Jragon> Okay thanks
[18:04] <trism> sirjoebob: if you are using lightdm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-with-lightdm (see the second answer)
[18:04] <theadmin> !find slim
[18:04] <theadmin> !info slim
[18:04] <theadmin> yay, available :D
[18:05] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[18:06] <Dante_> !info fatrat
[18:06] <sirjoebob> trism:  I don't have a lightdm folder in /etc
[18:06] <Shwaiil> Q: In Mac OSX there's a panel / widget that let us change current program we're on. Can I find that for Ubuntu too ? whats the name ? Tks for looking
[18:07] <pikaciu> Jragon: what's the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[18:07] <Dante_> !info jondo
[18:07] <trism> sirjoebob: then probably not using lightdm
[18:07] <sirjoebob> truism: I believe I am still using gdm
[18:07] <Dante_> !info prism
[18:07] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  current 'program' meaning what?
[18:07] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Um, it's on the left, the panel?
[18:08] <dbolser> ty all
[18:08] <Dante_> !info nmap
[18:08] <Shwaiil> dr_willis, theadmin tks for looking. Its a hotkey feature that u can find in ubuntu and also in win7 I think. Shows u a panel with some programs that are already running, u simple have to choose the program u want, and it goes to it
[18:09] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Alt-tab?
[18:09] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  you mean alt-tab ?
[18:09] <theadmin> dr_willis: lol :D
[18:09] <Dante_> !info nessus
[18:09] <llutz> !botabuse > Dante_
[18:09] <era878> How can I install jscalibrator in Oneric?
[18:09] <trism> sirjoebob: the gdm admin guide: http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/3.2/configuration.html.en has information on configuring autologin in /etc/gdm/custom.conf but I haven't tried it recently
[18:09] <Shwaiil> ALT + TAB thanks =D
[18:09] <zykotick9> Dante_, could you please do that in PM
[18:09] <Shwaiil> didnt knew I had this by default
[18:09] <dr_willis> !find jscalibrator
[18:10] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  a rather standard key combo. :)
[18:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, i think it's in joystick (but could be wrong)
[18:10] <Shwaiil> never used it :D pretty handy
[18:10] <era878> where can i find the source for jscalibrator?
[18:10] <sirjoebob> trism: I will try those out. Thanks for the guidance.
[18:10] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  i think its called somthing else these days..
[18:10] <Shwaiil> we have this in win too ? alt + tab ?! dr_willis
[18:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, could be?
[18:10] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  have for like the last 10+ years...
[18:10] <Shwaiil> LOL
[18:10] <Shwaiil> never used it
[18:11] <panther3> hey guys & girls, i have a problem..care to help?
[18:11] <theadmin> panther3: Sure thing, just ask
[18:11] <Shwaiil> its called a task switch I see
[18:11] <zykotick9> Shwaiil, see if you can find a windows-selector somewhere (that's what it's called in gnome2 anyways)
[18:11] <era878> So how can I reconfigure a joystick without jscalibrator?
[18:12] <panther3> installed ubuntu dual boot yesterday, can seemingly connect to wireless network, but can't load any webpages, and connection is erratic. also, can't install any updates or drivers :-(
[18:12] <dr_willis> era878:  i think theres some other tools that d  the same job.
[18:12] <FlavioTrashPunk> hello
[18:12] <zykotick9> era878, jscal just calibrates axis - usually you configure controls in the program/game you're using
[18:12] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install joystick
[18:12] <dr_willis> and try jscal
[18:13] <theadmin> panther3: Can you ping anything?
[18:13] <dr_willis> is all ive ever used lately
[18:13] <panther3> haven't tried
[18:13] <pikaciu> ping 8.8.8.8
[18:13] <dr_willis> !info evtest
[18:13] <FlavioTrashPunk> #join lorea
[18:13] <dr_willis> jscal          jscal-restore  jscal-store    jstest
[18:13] <Shwaiil> Q: Is 11.10 ok ? any of you guys get woste to the new interface ?
[18:14] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  its not that new. unity was out in 11.04
[18:14] <dr_willis> :)
[18:14] <theadmin> Shwaiil: I don't like Unity, but... XFCE's great everywhere :D
[18:14] <mang0> !package
[18:14] <pikaciu> yep :)
[18:14] <panther3> theadmin: got a load of text but can't really paste it as im on the laptop now and the desktop is where the problem is
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: Well, does it ping it?
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: I mean, is anything happening or do you just get an error like "No such host"?
[18:15] <Shwaiil> theadmin, I header about it. But does compiz work on it ?
[18:15] <Shwaiil> to have that neat effects
[18:15] <theadmin> Shwaiil: It does, but I'm fine without it
[18:15] <panther3> theadmin: no yeah something is happening...oh wait now it says 'destination host unreachable'
[18:15] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Compiz is desktop-independent. It works on anything.
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: I see...
[18:16] <theadmin> panther3: Do you actually have an IP? Type "ifconfig", find wlan0 and see if you have one
[18:17] <Shwaiil> theadmin, I see. I'm now checking XFCE and this look light. I sugested my friend to install ubuntu, because he liked what he saw in my machine. but my version is 10.04 . He doesnt like "Unity", I'm wondering if XFCE is easy for him to install without any experience in ubuntu ?
[18:17] <panther3> theadmin: 'no command "ipconfig" found
[18:17] <pikaciu> ifconfig
[18:17] <theadmin> panther3: ...read carefully, it's iFconfig
[18:17] <panther3> theadmin: sorry, my bad
[18:17] <Shwaiil> theadmin, i'm asking this because I'm not finding it available in Software center
[18:17] <theadmin> Shwaiil: XFCE is, basically, a gnome2 clone :D
[18:17] <Gentoo64> ipconfig is windows afaik
[18:17] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I make port 3306 accessible to anyone with a username and password?
[18:17] <theadmin> Gentoo64: correct
[18:18] <panther3> theadmin: no mention of wlan0 but wlan2 is there
[18:18] <Shwaiil> theadmin, GNOME2, XFCE, UNITY, etc these are names for desktop-environments. Is that right ?
[18:18] <Gentoo64> panther3: try ifconfig -a
[18:18] <theadmin> panther3: Fine, does it have an IP?
[18:18] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Yeah.
[18:19] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Well, Unity is just a decoration ("shell") thing that runs on top of GNOME libraries, actually.
[18:19] <Shwaiil> So, if I want to know more about this. I can search for "Desktop-environments" for linux. Is that it ?
[18:19] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Correct, well, a few notable ones are: GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Openbox, E17 and, well, Unity.
[18:19] <Shwaiil> theadmin, so, its not a Desktop-environment. So, couldnt we download Ubuntu without it ? by default ?
[18:19] <jiltdil> Any one tried CLFS project?  If yes. I want some suggestion. Thanks
[18:19] <TaZeR> try gnome 3 guys its so cool once you customize it i feel like im from the future
[18:19] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: yeah. the main ones are gnome,kde,xfce,lxde. then theres loads of window managers
[18:19] <panther3> theadmin: yes, i think so, 'inet addr: 192........'
[18:19] <theadmin> panther3: Sounds fine... hm, strange
[18:19] <panther3> :-(
[18:19] <Shwaiil> I like Gnome then
[18:20] <TaZeR> when my friends see my computer they say wow are you running a supercomputer mainframe i never seen this before!
[18:20] <Shwaiil> but i'll check KDE and the other
[18:20] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Gnome2 and gnome3 are completely different, but XFCE is like gnome2.
[18:20] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: just type them into google images
[18:20] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/
[18:20] <pikaciu> i love the little mouse
[18:20] <korokos> Shwaiil, if you want to install ubuntu without any desktop manager then you should try minimal install or simly debian
[18:20] <Shwaiil> yeah, Gentoo64 currently seeing it :) I'm on 10.04, this means I'm on gnome2
[18:20] <Gentoo64> pikaciu: its a gutter rat
[18:20] <pikaciu> :S
[18:21] <panther3> theadmin: yesterday i tried sudo apt-get update and it seemed to be installing some updates from there, and then when i went back to the update manager the list seemed to have changed, and when i tried installing updates it said there wasn't enough memory..
[18:21] <Shwaiil> Is Gnome a copy of Mac Osx environment ?
[18:21] <korokos> is anyone recommend gnome 3 install on ubuntu 11.10 minimal?
[18:21] <Dante_> :S
[18:21] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: no. eveyrone says that
[18:21] <theadmin> Shwaiil: No, Unity is
[18:21] <TaZeR> i like how i can click activities and i see a big thumbnail of my porno video on the side
[18:21]  * jiltdil unity gnome kde is far better than xfce 
[18:21] <novaspirit> hey does anyone know of any window list manager for a horizontal panel for lucid
[18:21] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: :)
[18:21] <Dante_> first complete the minimal install by installing ubuntu-desktop
[18:21] <dr_willis> unity is not much like os-x either...
[18:22] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: not sure where theyre stored. chattr +i ~/.thumbnails
[18:22] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  theres various panel/windowlist tools and docks you can instgall.
[18:22] <Shwaiil> Unity doesnt look like mac osx :T gnome looks more like it I dunno :X
[18:22] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/
[18:22] <ragnarok> TaZeR: trololo
[18:22] <panther3> theadmin: but since then i had to reinstall ubuntu anyway because i tried to add memory to ubuntu partition but messed up windows partition in the proccess..not my finest hour
[18:22] <dr_willis> i dont think gnome looks like ox-s at all...
[18:22] <TaZeR> its ok i can just click to watch =)
[18:22] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: ah convenient
[18:22] <Gentoo64> thought you meant because of family members
[18:22] <ragnarok> convenient he says
[18:22] <ragnarok> ahahahaha
[18:22] <TaZeR> ragnarok im highlighting a very important feature to me
[18:22] <ragnarok> i get it
[18:23] <novaspirit> dr_willis would you happend to know names? i've used ones preinstalled with ubuntu but they mostly for vertial panel setup
[18:23] <ragnarok> dr_willis: any relation to bruce?
[18:23] <dr_willis> !dock
[18:23] <jiltdil> neither of  gnome or unity looks like mac os
[18:23] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  err.. i think you may be getting vertical and horizonal backwards..
[18:24] <novaspirit> hahah yea
[18:24] <Shwaiil> Q: How to check wish environment I have installed ?
[18:24] <dr_willis> most docks go across the bottom. :) many can do up/down.
[18:24] <Gentoo64> docky looks most mac like of them all
[18:24] <novaspirit> dr_willis: my mistake
[18:24] <dr_willis> theres some alterantve 'window selector' panels in the repos also..
[18:25] <mord> anyone with a g{53,74}sx: any blockers with ubuntu?
[18:25] <dr_willis> i forget the name - saw it the other day at an webupd8 blog. I might have it bookmarked at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:25] <dr_willis> mord:  im not sure anyone knows what you are talking about.
[18:26] <Dante_> lol
[18:26] <mord> dr_willis: i'm hoping if someone has a g53sx he/she recognises "g53sx"
[18:26] <novaspirit> you have alot of good stuff on your site dr_willis ! bookmarked
[18:27] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  yep. search the delicious tags also.. often better hits  then google.
[18:27] <pikaciu> dr_willis: which site ?
[18:27] <dr_willis>  bookmarked at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:27] <novaspirit> http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:28] <pikaciu> dr_willis: do you have some emacs tutorial ?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> this is my site http://linuxbachot.co.cc/
[18:29] <dr_willis> pikaciu:  nope. but i bet theres emacs tutorial taggs at delicious.com
[18:29] <pikaciu> ok
[18:29] <panther3> theadmin: ?
[18:30] <ragnarok> dr_willis: the troll patrol here yet?
[18:30] <dr_willis> huh?
[18:31] <panther3> can anyone help me? pretty pleeease
[18:31] <Gentoo64> panther3: whats the problem
[18:32] <panther3> Gentoo64: installed dual boot ubuntu about yesterday, will connect to wireless but web wont load, updates wont install and connection is erratic
[18:33] <Gentoo64> panther3: so it sometimes works?
[18:33] <Gentoo64> panther3: its probably the ubuntu wireless driver. i dont know anything about wireless myself but so many people complain about wireless cutting out with ubuntu
[18:33] <panther3> Gentoo64: no, it's the same always, but the connection cuts off and comes on again, although no matter what the internet wont load
[18:34] <novaspirit> panther3: /etc/resolv.conf not configured?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> panther3  same issue with a normal ethernet connection?
[18:34] <panther3> saying that, i just managed to install a driver for the first time
[18:34] <panther3> MonkeyDust: no ethernet wire i'm afraid
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> ethernet is the most normal, stable and fast connection
[18:35] <panther3> novaspirit: noob here, what does that entail?
[18:35] <novaspirit> panther3, that set your dns let me look up a code for you
[18:35] <panther3> MonkeyDust: unfortunately i live in a loft, router is downstairs
[18:36] <novaspirit> panther3: try sudo echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' > /etc/resolv.conf
[18:36] <novaspirit> this will put the nameserver 8.8.8.8 into the resolv.conf file telling your computer to use google as your dns
[18:37] <Gentoo64> panther3: do you use windows, and does it work on that?
[18:37] <panther3> hang on a sec, just restarted after managing to download a driver and some updates are actually installing right now
[18:37] <panther3> Gentoo64: yes, everything is fine on windows
[18:37] <Gentoo64> ok well its not the router then
[18:37] <novaspirit> i'm not in your shoes so it's hard to say that will work. if you ping www.google.com do you get a result?
[18:37] <Gentoo64> prob the driver
[18:37] <panther3> how would the driver mess it up though?
[18:38] <panther3> just curious
[18:38] <almoxarife> novaspirit: networkmanager overwrites resolv.conf
[18:38] <lictuel_> Hello, I have upgraded Ubuntu to 11.10.
[18:39] <Dante_> hii
[18:39] <Dante_> nice
[18:39] <lictuel_> Now I do not have a problem with the surface
[18:39] <lictuel_> it is gone
[18:40] <Gentoo64> panther3: i thought you said you installed a driver and now it works :s
[18:40] <almoxarife> panther3: you will need to add the dns name server via network manager or it will be lost on the next reboot
[18:40] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/ , i have even installed libglib2 still not working
[18:40] <lictuel_> Can someone tell me how to activate Gnome or unity?
[18:40] <Gentoo64> lictuel_: login...
[18:40] <Gentoo64> :s
[18:41] <Dante_> :@
[18:41] <panther3> Gentoo64: its working right now, yes, but i don't understand why, and i have a feeling it might not last
[18:41] <almoxarife> Dante_: the package you added had a .dev extension
[18:41] <panther3> almoxarife: how do I go about that?
[18:41] <Gentoo64> panther3: idk. like i say i dont know anything about wireless. except that its unreliable
[18:41] <new2net> Lets say someone manages to get past snort, udf, squid, my cisco FW, NAT, arpalert, netfilter, and Lebron- my 24/7 guard outside my house. I would like to set up tripwire; a last line of defense integrity checker which monitors sensitive files on my OS. What would the sensitive files for Natty be? /bin/bash is an example- but what else?
[18:41] <Dante_> yes it did
[18:41] <almoxarife> panther3: what version you running?
[18:42] <zulunite> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[18:42] <panther3> Gentoo64: yeah, well hopefully it stays like this, cheers for your help :-)
[18:42] <Dante_> almoxrife .. what do i do now ??
[18:42] <Gentoo64> new2net: overparanoid?
[18:42] <panther3> almoxarife: 11.10
[18:42] <Dante_> it had -dev
[18:42] <mehlol> Dante, what did you do
[18:42] <trism> Dante_: glib-compile-schemas is in libglib2.0-bin
[18:42] <mehlol> Sorry, what do you need help with?
[18:42] <Gentoo64> new2net: what about apparmor? setting that up
[18:43] <Gentoo64> making profiles etc
[18:43] <almoxarife> panther3: see the network icon top right?
[18:43] <panther3> almoxarife: yep
[18:43] <luist> hey guys i changed a logo on the loading screen, inside the CHROOT to make a LiveCD. i ran update-initramfs -u but it only changed the logo when turning off, not when turning on! anyone help?
[18:43] <dr_willis> new2net:  if you are that worried about it. you can set up most  of / to be on a read only filesystem
[18:44] <almoxarife> panther3: see 'settings' when clicked?
[18:44] <Dante_> trism: i checked my synaptic and none libglib2.9 got bin at the end...
[18:44] <dr_willis> luist:  often the 3d drivers for nvidia or ati conflict with the plymouth logo. so it dosent show any logo at boot.. but does at shutdown. that might be the issue.
[18:44] <Dante_> 2.0
[18:44] <Dante_> :@
[18:44] <trism> Dante_: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:44] <Dante_> 10.04
[18:44] <Dante_> LTS
[18:44] <azert> hello
[18:44] <new2net> Gentoo64, good suggestion. But the worst thing I could do is be sitting on a box I think is secure, and then 3 months from now find out someone has pwnd me and had access for 8 weeks. It has happened to me before
[18:45] <mehlol> Dante_ still working on compiling gnome3?
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: thats the point of apparmor
[18:45] <luist> dr_willis: maybe not…. it works on the same machine with a live usb…
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: restrict net facing apps for what theyre allowed to access
[18:45] <trism> Dante_: glib-compile-schemas may not have been added until recently (so it may not be in 10.04)
[18:45] <luist> dr_willis: and it still shows the default ubuntu logo on turning on
[18:45] <dr_willis> luist:  the live usb is using the same drivers?
[18:45] <Dante_> mehlol: ofc i dont give up easily ...
[18:45] <panther3> almoxarife: nope, no settings..
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: if your worried about getting owned theres other solutions on top of all that like grsecurity, pax
[18:45] <Dante_> ;)
[18:45] <dr_willis> luist:  ive had issues in the past getting a live usb with persistant save file to actually use the nvidia or ati drivers.
[18:46] <panther3> connections gone again now
[18:46] <Dante_> trism: well ...there must be some other way around  :/
[18:46] <yeats> Dante_: you're entering "dependency hell" then... you'll probably have to chase down these sorts of dependencies and install them from source first :-/
[18:46] <dr_willis> luist:  even if i had them installed.. some times they would not get properly used but the gpl drivers would get used instead. thus plymouth worked.
[18:46] <panther3> back again
[18:46] <mehlol> Dante_ why not use a repo?
[18:47] <yeats> Dante_: again - I will caution you against doing that on a system you're actually hoping to use
[18:47] <Dante_> yeah .. maybe i can try configuring the configure file with the source ...
[18:47] <almoxarife> panther3: its also in 'applications' network connections
[18:47] <azert> i got several pc on ubuntu in a same network, 5 pc, i got the mac address of one of those pc, i would like to find the corresponding mac address to pc, in one time
[18:47] <azert> w/o checking that manually
[18:47] <azert> how to do ?
[18:47] <dr_willis> if the packages you are compiling are avail in some repos you can try the 'apt-get build-dep' command/option to pull in all needed dev deps.
[18:47] <Dante_> yeats: i will be using i first on a virtual machine then if it works on my system ...
[18:48] <luist> dr_willis: well how can i fix that? couldnt be an issue on my livecd building? inside the chroot i get some warnings when trying to update the logo: http://pastie.org/2884835
[18:48] <Dante_> :)
[18:48] <yeats> Dante_: oh - good ;-)
[18:48] <Dante_> mehlol: what repo ??
[18:48] <panther3> almoxarife: yep, okay got that up
[18:48] <dr_willis> luist:  no idea. personally.. i hate pymouth and disable it.. it is more pain then what its worth.
[18:48] <pikaciu> bye
[18:48] <Dante_> yeats: yeahh im not that crazy ... ;_)
[18:49] <Dante_> ;-)
[18:49] <azert> any idea ?
[18:49] <Dante_> maybe im .. u never know
[18:49] <dr_willis> nap time for me. bye all
[18:49] <elotro> i have a question about ircd-hybrid server. whats the command to restart it?
[18:50] <almoxarife> panther3: where are you adding the extra dns server, wifi or ether or both?
[18:50] <panther3> almoxarife: i dont understand what an extra dns server is
[18:50] <azert> helllo anyone there ?
[18:50] <elotro> the command that is offered in the preliminary motd after configuration says 'invoke-rc.d ircd-hybrid restart'
[18:51] <almoxarife> panther3: the 8.8.8.8 is a dns server
[18:51] <mehlol> Dante_: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[18:51] <drake1> how come the wireless only works 5minutes at random times?
[18:51] <panther3> almoxarife: sorry i still dont understand, i don't even know what an 8.8.8.8 is.. :-/
[18:51] <Dante_> mehlol
[18:52] <mehlol> Present
[18:52] <EvilResistance> panther3, 8.8.8.8 is the IP for one of Google's DNS servers.
[18:52] <luist> dr_willis: any idea on how can i configure this manually? :T
[18:52] <Dante_> mehlol: that repo is already added to my sourcelist
[18:52] <trism> mehlol: that is only for 11.04+ though, and Dante_ is on 10.04
[18:52] <novaspirit> luist: dr_willis logged off before
[18:52] <panther3> EvilResistance: okay, cheers
[18:52] <almoxarife> panther3: why were you adding 8.8.8.8 to the file resolv.conf?????
[18:53] <panther3> panther: i wasn't? when did i say that..
[18:53] <mehlol> Yes, modify the sources.lst entry for 11.04+
[18:53] <Dante_> mehlol: yes trism is correct ...
[18:53] <trism> Dante_: if you are really just trying to use gnome 3, might as well just install 11.10, which has it in the default repos
[18:53] <novaspirit> almoxarife: you told panther3 earlier to add it in the network manager so it saves it in the next reboot
[18:53] <Dante_> even i got the repo i can't download anythng from it
[18:54] <trism> Dante_: or wait until 12.04 comes out and upgrade to that
[18:54] <novaspirit> panther3: is your internet working now on your ubuntu?
[18:54] <Dante_> but i can't upgrade ...
[18:54] <Dante_> im on bt5
[18:54] <Myrtti> !backtrack
[18:54] <panther3> novaspirit: it was, now it's constantly on and off
[18:54] <Dante_> yes
[18:54] <Shwaiil> Q: Whats the best way to find a new LAPTOP that will be compatible with ubuntu ? I'm checking the "certified" one's but many are old or not available in my location :P tks
[18:55] <almoxarife> novaspirit: panther3: try sudo echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' > /etc/resolv.conf  <-- I assumed he did want it, my bad, nevermind panther3
[18:55] <alien20501> Shwaill: I've tested a LOT of laptops, many brands, most will work, but some may need configuration
[18:55] <novaspirit> panther3: if it is working then disregard the nameserver 8.8.8.8
[18:56] <Myrtti> Shwaiil: I would personally go to #ubuntu-offtopic and/or your Ubuntu Local Community irc channel and/or discussion forums and ask around
[18:56] <novaspirit> panther3, that is what i thought was the problem initally
[18:56] <Shwaiil> alien20501, tks
[18:56] <novaspirit> novaspirit, test
[18:56] <novaspirit> novaspirit: test
[18:56] <novaspirit> hmmp
[18:57] <novaspirit> am i messing wrong?
[18:57] <panther3> yeah the connection is terrible...i tried the command but it didn't do anything?
[18:57] <panther3> what was it supposed to do?
[18:57] <drake1> the wireless osd info says that it's connected (when turning off all security layers) but it won't work. first try it worked for 5minutes but since then, no luck.
[18:58] <almoxarife> panther3: describe 'terrible' connection
[18:58] <novaspirit> websites usually carry a name(dns) like www.google.com. our computers don't know what that is so we need a domain name server(dns) to translate words like www.google.com. to numbers. 74.125.226.244
[18:58] <panther3> internet wont work, trying to install updates and they'll start to install but fail before finished
[18:58] <almoxarife> panther3: if you are using it right now it can't be that bad, you are not dropping off the net
[18:59] <panther3> almoxarife: i'm on a laptop right now, the problem is on my desktop
[18:59] <almoxarife> panther3: on same network as the desktop?
[18:59] <panther3> almoxarife: yes
[19:00] <almoxarife> panther3: don't fixate on the network
[19:00] <panther3> almoxarife: also have windows on the same desktop and that works fine
[19:00] <novaspirit> almoxarife, panther3 are you thinking? ip conflict?
[19:00] <panther3> almoxarife: what do you mean by that?
[19:01] <panther3> novaspirit: never heard of that before
[19:01] <almoxarife> panther3: failed installs ? what errors do you get? btw, the desktop with ubuntu on it works fine except for the installs?
[19:02] <S0me1> What is the differences between Ubuntu CD and DVD?
[19:02] <BarkingFish> CD is a basic install, DVD has the full set of language support on it, plus some other stuff which doesn't come on the CD
[19:03] <panther3> almoxarife: the error is that the network is down, the OS is fine, yeah, just wont connect to anything
[19:03] <almoxarife> panther3: this is something that just happened or was there after a fresh install?
[19:05] <S0me1> What are the differences between Ubuntu CD and DVD? Is the DVD contain huge packages!
[19:05] <panther3> almoxarife: was there after a fresh install...i installed a few days ago and tried: sudo apt-get update, got some updates, and the update manager had refreshed..tried to install some updates on that but it said there wasn't enough memory, so i went onto windows and resized windows partition to make ubuntu partition bigger, but then windows wouldn't boot, so deleted ubuntu partition, system restore'd windows and re-installed ubuntu...a
[19:06] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[19:06] <JetJaguar> kamilnadeem  Hello
[19:06] <kamilnadeem> I am not getting the thumbnails for some video files , while some are working
[19:06] <almoxarife> panther3: 'memory' ????? adding space won't add memory
[19:07] <kamilnadeem> JetJaguar: Hello
[19:07] <S0me1> any answers please ?
[19:07] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why brltty; Unable to find a reason to install brltty.' Does this mean that I can simply deinstall the DEB program package brltty without harmful consequences?
[19:07] <panther3> almoxarife: not memory as in RAM, memory as in storage
[19:07] <novaspirit> S0me1: read above someone aready answered you
[19:07] <NikLP> Hi, I'm coming here as a debian user. I need to provision a new web server very shortly. I currently have a debian box, which has been fine for the most part. I wonder if anyone can shed a decent amount of light on the argument between debian/ubunt and gentoo for this purpose. I have a friend who is extremely aggressively supportive on the side of gentoo, and he makes compelling arguments,...
[19:07] <NikLP> ...but I need a second opinion, (hopefully without too much fanboyism!)
[19:07] <kamilnadeem> and when I paste those files in a new folder I get the thumbnails ?
[19:08] <bullgard4> S0me1: On the DVD there are more packages.
[19:08] <toumbo> hi people!!I have the "monitor turns off" problem but I cannot save the nano file!It says it is read-only!!Mya anyone help me?
[19:08] <toumbo> may
[19:08] <novaspirit> toumbo: try sudo
[19:09] <novaspirit> for super user mode to write on file
[19:09] <bullgard4> toumbo: What do you mean by "naono file"?
[19:09] <bullgard4> toumbo: What do you mean by "nano file"?
[19:10] <S0me1> bullgard4: BarkingFish ; that mean not many ubuntu dist together such as edu and studio. The main advantage is the packages ! agreed?
[19:10] <almoxarife> panther3: I am assuming, your issues have zero to do with 'network' , but I would do one thing when ever I install, try to be hardwired, and use the 'alternate' iso/disk/cd/dvd
[19:10] <JetJaguar> NikLP  Pretty much all versions of linux are flexible enough to serve your needs.  It all just depends on how you set it up...
[19:10] <artyums> Hello) Can anyone say me, how slowdown the fans in Ubuntu?
[19:10] <toumbo> novaspirit But i already used it(sudo).I was in recovery mode.I tried to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf with nano
[19:10] <artyums> Sorry for my badly English))
[19:10] <zykotick9> novaspirit, fyi su != "super user" it's "switch user" which when given no user argument defaults to root
[19:11] <bullgard4> S0me1: The main advantage ist the larger number of packages, yes.
[19:11] <BarkingFish> S0me1: I'm really sorry, I don't fully understand you.
[19:11] <BarkingFish> since bullgard4 does, I'll let them carry on :)
[19:11] <S0me1> BarkingFish: :)
[19:11] <novaspirit> zykotick9, thanks i acutally never read up about that cause i usually use sudo command
[19:11] <panther3> almoxarife: managing to install that driver has definitely helped a bit, updates are installing but the connection is on off on off so it's taking a while...maybe when the updates are installed whatever bug i have might be fixed?
[19:12] <packetpenguin> what does a person need to do to register a nick?
[19:12] <zykotick9> !register | packetpenguin
[19:12] <kamilnadeem> >? any solution?
[19:12] <toumbo> novaspirit http://goo.gl/Cn9f
[19:13] <S0me1> bullgard4: I am not sure the DVD works fine with Nvidia vga ? sometimes black screen came
[19:13] <toumbo> The monitor turns off issue
[19:14] <S0me1> BarkingFish: bullgard4 :Can I choose which packages I can install from DVD wizard ?
[19:14] <JetJaguar> artyums  You many have to check if your motherboard manufacturer has linux software that will allow you to control the fans....
[19:15] <Gardllok> im abit noob to linux, what can I do to optimize ubuntu for my acer netbook? or should i just leave it alone? (version 11.1)
[19:15] <bullgard4> S0me1: This my be the case with certain Nvidia cards. But an Ubuntu CD will not do any better.  You will need to tackle this problem after you have installed the operating system from your DVD.
[19:15] <JetJaguar> artyums  Otherwise, the fans may be controlled by the motherboard BIOS.
[19:16] <bullgard4> S0me1: Yes you can select certain packages (but only to a certain degree).
[19:16] <c_smith> Gordllok, there's not too many ways I know of to optimize it that it doesn't do when it's installed, and the ways I know of are more for power users.
[19:16] <novaspirit> i'm not exactly sure but you can kill your gdm to go into shell
[19:16] <bullgard4> s/my/may
[19:16] <S0me1> bullgard4: what do you mean by certain degree?
[19:17] <novaspirit> i believe if you use alt+ctrl+f1 you still have the x still running
[19:17] <bullgard4> S0me1: I mean that there is no complete freedom.
[19:17] <novaspirit> toumbo, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:18] <novaspirit> toumbo i'm not too sure cause i don't do that much
[19:18] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing http://pastebin.com/nCWpjE0s this currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[19:18] <Gardllok> c_smith: Thank you, not a netbook power user, I am setting this up for my wife to do her net browsing only pretty much and I just wanna make sure I set it up to deliver best performance, the pc originally had win7 starter
[19:18] <JetJaguar> novaspirit  Correct  Alt+Ctrl+F1-6 will take you to a Console window.  There are 6 of them.  Alt+Ctrl+F7 will take you to X.
[19:18] <novaspirit> JetJaguar, but will X still be running in the background?
[19:18] <S0me1> bullgard4: that's fine, I need something working well on my workstation specially Nvida issue, sometimes the black screen came during the installation
[19:19] <JetJaguar> novaspirit  Correct.  :)
[19:19] <celord> hello all, I have a 700G hard disk, what would be the best partition distribution ???
[19:19] <toumbo> novaspirit unfortunately I'm unable to enter X only recovery mode
[19:19] <novaspirit> JetJaguar, toumbo is having a problem writing to the xorg file. even after he does alt-ctrl-f1
[19:19] <c_smith> Gordlok, if you want a fast Browser, but don't mind expending a few extra system resources, i'd recommend Google Chrome.
[19:20] <novaspirit> toumbo, ohh i miss that part where you go into recovery mode. which means x should not be loaded at all
[19:20] <c_smith> celord, with just that information, it's hard to make a recommendation, as it also depends on what you need in the partitions, how much RAM you have, and whether you want  a /home partition instead of a /home directory.
[19:21] <Gardllok> c_smith: I agree, though I never used it on a linux system, its what i recommend for windows as a fast browser...similiar installation process or do i have to include extra dependancy services?
[19:21] <zykotick9> Gardllok, chromium (in ubuntu repo) is IMO a better suggestion then the non-free Google Chrome
[19:21] <novaspirit> toumbo sorry can't help much on this.. trying sudo bash to get root prompt and try to nano the xorg file
[19:21]  * zykotick9 know that Chromium is also not considered free by FSF
[19:21] <bullgard4> S0me1: Your description is not detailled enough. Please analyze you file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old for Nvidia errors.
[19:21] <Gardllok> zykotick9: i would have went with chromium however my wife wants to use calibre and read books as well, however chromium does not support this
[19:21] <bullgard4> -l
[19:22] <bullgard4> s/you/your/
[19:22] <c_smith> Gordlok, I'd try both Chromium and Chrome (they're basically the same thing, save for a few extras in Chrome) and see what works best for you.
[19:22] <novaspirit> gardllok i just started using firefox 4. and man it's not bad with a minimal look to it
[19:22] <zykotick9> c_smith, ya those google tracking features are nice </sarcasm>
[19:23]  * c_smith has FF, Chrome and Chromium.
[19:23] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why brltty; Unable to find a reason to install brltty.' Does this mean that I can simply deinstall the DEB program package brltty without harmful consequences?
[19:23] <c_smith> zykotic9, I agree there, the tracking definitely wouldn't be wanted, but some people need features in Chrome that aren't in Chromium.
[19:24] <toumbo> Ok let's explain my steps from start.I removed nvidia driver in order to install the newest from ppa.After reboot Montor turned off.With google help found this http://goo.gl/Cn9f.On recovery mode  couldn't save the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file with nano.
[19:24] <zykotick9> !tab > c_smith
[19:24] <toumbo> i removed the driver from jockey-gtk
[19:24] <llutz> bullgard4: usually yes, check "sudo aptitude purge brltty -s" to be sure whats going to be removed
[19:24] <c_smith> zykotick9: thanks for the tip.
[19:25] <toumbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:26] <c_smith> celord: what are you planning to do with the partitioning? how much RAM do you have and do you need any directories as a seperate partition?
[19:26] <JetJaguar> Google will save us all.  ;)
[19:26] <c_smith> JetJaguar: true dat.
[19:28] <celord> c_smith, I would like to have home in a separate partition
[19:28] <celord> I have 8G of RAM
[19:29] <HK_417_Girl> algun militar?
[19:29] <drake1> im a bit confused by all this wireless. in windows it works fine, even with encryption, but ubuntu says "connected," and nothing happens. maybe i could fix it from a command line but wouldn't the ubuntu desktop wireless controls interfere with command line settings?
[19:30] <c_smith> celord: ok, that gives me more to work with, but I have one last question before I feel safe making recommendations: how much space do you need for the /home partition?
[19:30] <Scunizi> celord: If you're going to experiment a lot ie web servers, different programs etc.. here's my recommendation .. /swap=16gig (incase of video editing san sleep mode ... / (root) 20-30 gigs .. the rest for /home
[19:30] <bullgard4> llutz: I have done what you advised. I have checked and then puged this package. It worked all right. -- Thank you for your help.  --  Can I ask you why did Ubuntu automatically install this package at all? The majority of Ubuntu users is not blind.
[19:30] <llutz> bullgard4: idk, better you ask the ubuntu-devs
[19:31] <bullgard4> llutz: Thank you again for your help.
[19:31] <toumbo> Guess noone have an idea how to save a file using nano in recovery mode... :/
[19:31] <toumbo> When it is redonly
[19:31] <drake1> sudo su root \n nano file
[19:32] <celord> c_smith, I want to have as much as poisible space on /home but do not wat to let root too small for other programs using system folders
[19:32] <JetJaguar> toumbo  You have to open the file with nano as Root first.
[19:32] <celord> Scunizi, that sounds good
[19:32] <JetJaguar> If you didn't open the file with nano as root you won't be able to save it.
[19:32] <drake1> celord: try with 100GB and see how your usage develops
[19:32] <toumbo> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this JetJaguar?
[19:33] <JetJaguar> toumbo  That should do it.
[19:33] <toumbo> I already done it!!! :/
[19:33] <c_smith> ok, here's my recommendation: 100-200 GB for root, 16 GB for swap, and the rest for /home
[19:33] <JetJaguar> toumbo  And nano will not let you save it?
[19:33] <c_smith> my PC has a lot more limited hard drive: 230 GB.
[19:33] <uabn93> 16gb for swap??
[19:34] <rhizmoe> fantastic, another 50+ updates today!
[19:34] <c_smith> depending on his gfx card.
[19:34] <toumbo> JetJaguar Yes!!It says it's read only!
[19:34] <llutz> toumbo: root-fs mounted readonly?
[19:34] <c_smith> uabn93: depending on his gfx card, and some other variables, then yeah, that sounds reasonable.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> celord: I generally recommend against using a separate /home/. Why do you ewant one?
[19:34] <zykotick9> toumbo, has anyone asked to see "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[19:35] <drake1> i always put the home on a perarate partition so it's easy to chroot, mount home, use the home toolchain to build the new environment
[19:35] <drake1> separate
[19:35] <okee> Does anyone know if there is an Ubuntu user group in Sacramento, CA?  I am visiting there for the holidays, and would like to meetup if possible.
[19:36] <toumbo> Sorry guys i don't understand
[19:36] <sudipta> any one knows how to disable power save mode in gnome shell
[19:36] <sudipta> ?
[19:36] <toumbo> llutz  zykotick9
[19:37] <zykotick9> toumbo, from a terminal could you give the output from running "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (no double quotes)
[19:37] <llutz> toumbo: see output of "mount"  command. does the line containing "/" say ro/readonly?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> !lug | okee
[19:38] <toumbo> Ok got it!I'll try it!!And then return here for information
[19:38] <sudipta> any one knows how to disable power save mode in gnome shell?
[19:38] <okee> Well I selected that link and got a "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" http://www.linux.org/groups/
[19:39] <JetJaguar> DOH!
[19:39] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[19:39] <semifor> I've got xmonad working with 11.10 using this as a guide: https://gist.github.com/1300108, but when I log out, lightdm doesn't restart.
[19:40] <zykotick9> okee, for ubuntu loco this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
[19:42] <okee> Hmm..  Those folks seem to be online only.  Couldn't find anything specifically to Sacramento, but i did see something at http://ubuntuforums.org/register  I am trying to register.
[19:43] <zykotick9> okee, i thought i saw something about a Sacramento ubuntu-hour?
[19:44] <zykotick9> okee, perhaps not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours
[19:44] <Vinny> I have a question regarding using a built in Raid Controller from SuperMirco X9SCL , The Installer is not picking up the LSI Raid
[19:45] <zykotick9> Vinny, for installing onto RAID you might have more luck with an Alternative CD vs the LiveCD (but I have no specific knowledge regarding your controller)
[19:45] <kapcom01> can anyone help me with imagemagick's convert command?
[19:45] <llutz> kapcom01: ask
[19:45] <zykotick9> kapcom01, "convert file.ext newfile.ext"
[19:46] <Vinny> My CD is the Ubuntu Server 11.10
[19:46] <kapcom01> i would like to slice multiple images into two pieces
[19:46] <zykotick9> Vinny, perhaps try the #ubuntu-server channel then.
[19:46] <bullgard4> Synaptic about the DEB program package »uno-lib3«: "The Uno Runtime Environment (URE) is the well-known UNO component model of LibreOffice, packaged as an individual product. What is the esssence of the »UNO« component model of LibreOffice? It is not well-known to me.
[19:46] <Vinny> kk ty
[19:46] <vex_> can someone help me figure out why mu ssh server will not ask me for my RSA key upon connecting? I have generated the RSA key pair and edited the configuration file accordingly but it still does not ask me for any type of key, just a password
[19:47] <kapcom01> i want to do a horizontal crop (http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/tidbits/image.php#crop1) but on many images at once..
[19:48] <geoffmcc> vex_: i know you said you editited config, but did you also edit ssh_config and turn passwordauthentication to no
[19:48] <zykotick9> kapcom01, perhaps ##imagemagick would know?
[19:48] <JetJaguar> kapcom01  You want to Batch crop multiple images?
[19:48] <llutz> kapcom01: for pic in *.jpg; do convert -someoptions "$pic"   new/$pic ; done
[19:49] <vex_> geoffmcc: it doesnt appear that i have a ssh_config why would that be
[19:49] <zykotick9> llutz, the OP wants some crop option(s)
[19:49] <llutz> zykotick9: those he just showed us in the link he gave?
[19:49] <kapcom01> llutz, thanks i'll try it out
[19:49] <zykotick9> llutz, sorry
[19:49] <geoffmcc> vex_: sorry it should be in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[19:50] <llutz> zykotick9: "...but on many images at once.."
[19:50] <vex_> geoffmcc: thats where i am now and its completly gone i remember it being there at one time but now it has vanished
[19:50] <llutz> kapcom01: make sure directory "new" exists
[19:51] <JetJaguar> llutz  Hope he has to crop the exact same area on each image...
[19:51] <geoffmcc> vex_: when you say you editied config file, what file was that
[19:52] <vex_> geoffmcc: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:52] <kapcom01> llutz, thank you very mutc its working :)
[19:52] <llutz> kapcom01: yw
[19:52] <Tuxist64bit> three githubs .-D
[19:52] <geoffmcc> vex_: im confused, the config file is gone or the passwordauth statement
[19:53] <Tuxist64bit> i think we must better cordinate
[19:53] <vex_> geoffmcc: my ssh_config file is gone everything else is still there
[19:55] <Koolvin> I'm about to install ubuntu server 10.04.03 from a flash drive using universal usb installer, every time I've done this before on this machine, the bootloader has been installed to the flash drive.
[19:55] <wide_awake> Multimedia keys don't seem to work in audacious until I go into prefs -> plugins -> global hotkey plugin, then hit "ok" (no changes).  Anyone know how I can make it work without that step?
[19:55] <Koolvin> How can I prevent this?
[19:55] <geoffmcc> vex_: i can pastebin you the default so you can recreate
[19:55] <tolmun> oahi
[19:55] <clock2> CIAO
[19:55] <clock2> !LISTA
[19:55] <geoffmcc> vex_: although im not sure how ssh is running
[19:56] <zykotick9> Koolvin, there is an option to specify where Grub is installed (just prior to the copying stage, some Advanced button or something)
[19:56] <vex_> geoffmcc: ya im not too sure either but if you could pastebin the default that would be great
[19:56] <geoffmcc> vex_: yup, one min.
[19:56] <Koolvin> Is it a quick "press f12 now!!!!" or something like that?
[19:56] <vex_> geoffmcc: thanks
[19:56] <zykotick9> Koolvin, no, during the GUI install
[19:57] <Koolvin> It's server
[19:57] <zykotick9> Koolvin, sorry - i was thinking desktop.  Ignore what i said.
[19:58] <kazurik> Does anyone know how safe it is to write to an NTFS partition these days from linux?
[19:58] <toumbo> zykotick9 output: -rw-r--r--
[19:58] <theadmin> kazurik: ntfs-3g
[19:58] <theadmin> kazurik: Oh, sorry, misread your question
[19:59] <Koolvin> 
[19:59] <theadmin> kazurik: It's safe enough, I didn't have any problems with it whatsoever
[19:59] <JetJaguar> Kazurik,  It shouldn't be a problem.
[19:59] <toumbo> llutz warning: /etc/mtab is not writable
[19:59] <zykotick9> toumbo, could you give the full like please
[19:59] <geoffmcc> vex_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747457/
[19:59] <kazurik> theadmin: Ah perfect! Thanks
[19:59] <llutz> toumbo: what was the line containing "/"?
[20:00] <toumbo> zykotick9 The other part was the time and date I put the command
[20:00] <toumbo> llutz it was rw
[20:01] <vex_> geoffmcc: thanks man that was it i have no idea how that file went missing
[20:01] <toumbo> soory not much information I though it were useless.My mistake
[20:02] <toumbo> I thought
[20:02] <subb1> hi everyone
[20:02] <geoffmcc> vex_: no problem, hope that does it for you. it should.
[20:04] <Vinny_> Tried Asking the Server channel but no one was there... is there a Alternative cd of Ubuntu Server?
[20:04] <zykotick9> Vinny_, no - it's already like an altcd
[20:04] <subb1> i have an issue mounting an external HDD ntfs formatted.
[20:04] <Vinny_> then it should be detecting this raid controller..
[20:04] <subb1> on ubuntu...with a pretty long error message
[20:05] <rodhash> Hello guys.. I just issued 'do-release-upgrade' it it upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04... should I run it again to upgrade to 11.10 or should I first reboot my laptop?
[20:05] <d3f4c3d> Hello, is there a real linux guru to help me RESET my NIC count ?
[20:05] <llutz> d3f4c3d: your what?
[20:05] <Vinny_> Zykotick9 u can't build the raid with ubuntu can u?
[20:05] <Zeranoe> Hi, for some reason I've lost my network manager. Network manager is installed, but there is no icon down at the bottom that would allow me to connect to a wireless network. Any ideas what might be happening, or how I could launch it without the taskbar icon?
[20:06] <zykotick9> Vinny_, i wouldn't know, i'm not a RAID person
[20:06] <d3f4c3d> i had 12 nics, after replacing my new nic cards show up as eth13 - eth23
[20:06] <theadmin> Zeranoe: In a terminal, type: nm-applet &disown
[20:06] <JetJaguar> Vinny, I've read several recommendations that suggest NOT to use the RAID controllers but rather to use the linux software RAID.
[20:06] <geoffmcc> rodhash: to be safe i would install any updates it finds and then do another release-upgrade
[20:06] <llutz> d3f4c3d: remove/change /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:06] <d3f4c3d> llutz, thanks
[20:06] <rodhash> geoffb, so I need to run 'do-release-upgrade' again?
[20:07] <Vinny_> @JetJaguar  SO Don't use the controller Ubuntu has one built in
[20:07] <geoffmcc> rodhash: first run the update manager and get any updates and then do the release upgrade
[20:07] <rodhash> oh ok
[20:07] <rodhash> geoffb, so I don't need to reboot it, right?
[20:07] <subb1> guys, i get this error message while trying to mount ntfs external HDD:
[20:07] <zykotick9> Vinny_, most of the "use softare raid instead" stem from FAKERAID hardware, not real RAID hardware
[20:07] <subb1> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[20:07] <subb1> Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error
[20:07] <subb1> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[20:07] <subb1> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[20:07] <subb1> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[20:07] <FloodBot1> subb1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <Zeranoe> theadmin: Should that be the same on lubuntu?
[20:08] <d3f4c3d> llutz, rebooting now
[20:08] <geoffmcc> rodhash: go ahead and do it just to be sure
[20:08] <theadmin> Zeranoe: Oh, I suppose yes, but I'm not so sure. If it uses NetworkManager, then yup
[20:08] <deviant2029> Hello. I am trying to install ubunutu desktop in a dual boot with windows 7. My windows 7 install is on a software raid 0, but when i try to install Ubuntu. It can only find the 3 disks that are in my raid 0 configuration. Has anyone ran into this or know how I can get Ubuntu installed on my raid 0 with windows 7?
[20:08] <JetJaguar> Vinny  Linux has a software RAID that supposedly works just as well or better than hardware RAIDs.
[20:08] <Vinny_> kk Sorry Im a Windows Guy learning this with ubuntu   usually with windows u have to create the raid with the controller first then u can install windows but with ubuntu it is built in
[20:09] <Vinny_> that would make sense and explain my issues...
[20:09] <subb1> FloodBot1: sorry
[20:09] <rodhash> geoffb, thx
[20:09] <subb1> i have pasted the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/747468/
[20:09] <Vinny_> kk Thank u for your help guys going to remove the raid and try it again
[20:09] <d3f4c3d> llutz, flawless victory - you are GURU
[20:10] <yeats> subb1: did you run chkdsk /f on it?
[20:10] <Zeranoe> theadmin: Thanks a lot, I believe I got it, somehow network-manger-gnome was removed.
[20:11] <seanmc98> hello i have bluetooth on my computer ( at least im guessing what the huge bluetooth button is for on the computer) but in ubuntu it says no compatable drivers found. any ideas?
[20:11] <subb1> yeats: but i cannot see the partition to run chkdsk
[20:11] <deviant2029> Hello. I am trying to install ubunutu desktop in a dual boot with windows 7. My windows 7 install is on a software raid 0, but when i try to install Ubuntu. It can only find the 3 disks that are in my raid 0 configuration. Has anyone ran into this or know how I can get Ubuntu installed on my raid 0 with windows 7?
[20:11] <yeats> subb1: (that would have to be done from Windows btw)
[20:12] <subb1> yeats: oh thanks. it might get fixed after that?
[20:12] <yeats> subb1: it sounds like you at least need to do that - hopefully it fixes the problem
[20:13] <subb1> yeats: sure. let me try. thanks for your time.
[20:13] <yeats> subb1: alternatively, you could reformat the drive to ext3/4 (would destroy any data on it)
[20:13] <subb1> yeats: no . data on it are important.
[20:13] <JetJaguar> deviant2029  Sounds like you will not be able to do a dual boot if Ubuntu cannot recognize your software raid.
[20:13] <rodhash> open: 53436; closed: 94652; defer: 123; conflict: 335, Why so many checks when running 'aptitude upgrade'?
[20:14] <yeats> subb1: then I would try to fix the NTFS issu
[20:14] <yeats> e
[20:14] <JetJaguar> deviant2029  Is that "software raid" a Windows only software?
[20:14] <subb1> yeats: so shall i try the chkdsk on windows now?
[20:14] <TomSlominski> hi. i'm trying to kill cherokee but it just won't die :(
[20:14] <yeats> subb1: that's what I would do
[20:15] <deviant2029> JetJaguar, Not sure. Its controlled by my motherboard. Its a dell XPS tower
[20:15] <subb1> yeats: thanks
[20:15] <pnorman> deviant2029: My guess would be you have to partition the 3 drives so half is for windows, half is for linux, then setup two software raids
[20:15] <subb1> hopefully it fixed
[20:15] <subb1> fixes*
[20:15] <Mathias> scuses
[20:16] <pnorman> deviant2029: Oh, fakeraid. you may be able to get that to work in ubuntu.
[20:17] <pnorman> deviant2029: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto but be sure to have backups
[20:17] <rodhash> Guys.. any idea why 'aptitude upgrade' is doing that huge checking?? --> open: 86466; closed: 153226;
[20:17] <deviant2029> Thanks pnorman
[20:19] <JetJaguar> Is there a reason to use a RAID controller anymore unless it's a server?
[20:20] <Koolvin> JetJaguar, if you've got a raid set up
[20:20] <Koolvin> Yes
[20:20] <Koolvin> Are you asking if there is reason to raid?
[20:20] <giogio> ciao
[20:21] <giogio> anche se è amore non si vede ù
[20:21] <JetJaguar> Koolvin  Yes.  Basically.  Unless you are using a SAN it seems like over kill any more.
[20:22] <Koolvin> JetJaguar, raid 0 can multiply the speed of drives 4x
[20:22] <szal> !it | giogio
[20:23] <Koolvin> Among speed increase, you have a single logical volume across multiple disks which saves a lot of pain
[20:23] <JetJaguar> Koolvin  Until one of those drives dies.  :(
[20:23] <Koolvin> Of course.
[20:23] <Koolvin> But thats a risk you must take
[20:23] <JetJaguar> Yep
[20:24] <Koolvin> If you're worrying about drive failure, raid has you covered as well
[20:24] <Koolvin> Creating redundancy
[20:24] <Guest12952> hi
[20:24] <Guest12952> :q
[20:24] <Koolvin> Hi
[20:25] <JetJaguar> What can we do for you Guest?
[20:25] <captcrunch> Hey
[20:25] <balazs> hi. The shells in my terminal are misbehaving. When I hit TAB and it completes a filename, the spaces aren't escaped.
[20:26] <RonaldJ> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 How can I remove the sidebar? It's making me mad!
[20:26] <subb1> quit
[20:26] <JetJaguar> balazs  Are you typing in a command or just changing dirs?
[20:26] <Koolvin> Ronald, that's the desktop environment
[20:26] <RonaldJ> Koolvin it shows up every time I don't want it to show up
[20:27] <JetJaguar> RonaldJ  It's part of Ubuntu now.  Well, part of Unity.
[20:27] <Koolvin> RonaldJ, do you want to get rid of the sidebar completely
[20:27] <jrib> RonaldJ: do you know what you would prefer?
[20:27] <kopitos> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <kopitos> sorry
[20:27] <RonaldJ> Ubuntu (unity) looks great but the sitebar looks like a big bug.
[20:28] <balazs> JetJaguar: using "ls"
[20:28] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes please
[20:28] <balazs> using "cd" seems to work
[20:28] <Koolvin> Oh, you want to keep unity
[20:28] <Koolvin> But remove the sidebar?
[20:29] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes
[20:29] <Koolvin> I'm not sure if you can do that
[20:29] <RonaldJ> Or hide the sidebar or dock it
[20:29] <Koolvin> However you can replace unity with another desktop environment
[20:29] <Koolvin> Like gnome or kde
[20:29] <JetJaguar> balazs  There are certain times that spaces do not need to be escaped.  In commands like ls the shell can get away with not escaping them I think.
[20:29] <Koolvin> Looks like I'm not going to be much help, as I'm not versed with unity =\
[20:30] <RonaldJ> Koolvin what do you use?
[20:30] <Gardllok> exit
[20:30] <nook> Hi, is it possible to show the items in the unety global menu without hover the menu?
[20:30] <Koolvin> I use kde more than anything
[20:30] <nook> i want to see alle the menu items all time
[20:30] <Koolvin> But I generally only use linux for server environments
[20:31] <jutnux> I really like Unity to be honest.
[20:31] <RonaldJ> Koolvin does it work well with NVIDIA?
[20:31] <balazs> JetJaguar: not true with "ls"
[20:31] <Koolvin> KDE?
[20:31] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes?
[20:31] <Koolvin> It's built on opengl, so yes
[20:31] <Koolvin> I believe it is atleast
[20:31] <Koolvin> It has no trouble with nvidia cards.
[20:31] <Koolvin> Kubuntu comes shipped with kde
[20:32] <RonaldJ> Unity is cool but that sidebar is making it unpossible to use without getting irritated
[20:32] <balazs> it seems to work the first time I type something in a new shell, but not afterwards
[20:32] <balazs> odd
[20:32] <Koolvin> #kubuntu
[20:32] <RonaldJ> Koolvin I will try Kubuntu again then. Thanks!
[20:33] <JetJaguar> balazs  Are you in a new Console or Tearminal?
[20:33] <balazs> yes
[20:34] <JetJaguar> balazs  yes which?
[20:34] <balazs> it's broken in either
[20:35] <balazs> but I think I found it
[20:35] <balazs> /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh breaks things
[20:35] <JetJaguar> Cool
[20:36] <c_smith>     Cody
[20:36] <c_smith> wtf? how'd that get typed?
[20:37] <JetJaguar> Ghosts
[20:37] <JetJaguar> in the machine
[20:37] <Spyros> :P
[20:38] <Spyros> in the sky we raise our hands!
[20:38] <JetJaguar> Werd to ya motha
[20:38] <Spyros> and see the blood in them;)
[20:39] <Spyros> we are together and be happy
[20:39] <Spyros> :D
[20:40] <Spyros> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZ2c267FSs
[20:40] <llutz> Spyros: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[20:40] <Spyros> i'm off
[20:40] <Spyros> !!!
[20:40] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to get a per process monitor of network usage.
[20:41] <quentusrex> There is a process on one of my servers making https requests and I'm trying to track down which one.
[20:41] <Spyros> quentusrex, nethogs
[20:41] <Spyros> quentusrex, netstat
[20:42] <c_smith> ok, after a failed install of Burg, I can't even clean up after it, is there anything I can do to fix it short of reinstalling?
[20:42] <c_smith> this is preventing me from installing with apt-get.
[20:43] <c_smith> and I suspect with any other package manager.
[20:45] <c_smith> http://pastebin.com/SHEWTP7n the error apt-get and any other Package Manager are spitting out.
[20:45] <theadmin> c_smith: That sounds too messed up to be really fixable...
[20:46] <TK5791> evening
[20:46] <c_smith> *sigh* gonna have to reinstall packages, but I have my /home directory safe.
[20:48] <Vinny_> Hey the Software Raid in Ubuntu Worked Perfectly Thanks!
[20:48] <nook> Is it possible that the global menu of Unity allways show the menu items? I dont want to hover the menu to see the items... That makes me crazy :(
[20:48] <TK5791> I'm currently running this OS on a Dell XPS
[20:48] <TK5791> The machine has an HTML out.... does anyone know how to activate it when using a HD monitor?
[20:49] <terry_> LOL HTML OUT
[20:49] <theadmin> TK5791: HDMI...
[20:49] <TK5791> HDMI
[20:49] <terry_> :P
[20:49] <TK5791> typo
[20:49] <theadmin> lol xD
[20:49] <Vinny_> HTML new port, is that a web port?
[20:50] <terry_> You plug in the internet
[20:50] <Myrtti> could be using a predictive text thing on the phone
[20:50] <Myrtti> move on.
[20:50] <terry_> TK: using graphical?
[20:50] <terry_> Using ubuntu desktop with Unity / gnome?
[20:50] <TK5791> terry_:?
[20:50] <TK5791> unity
[20:53] <terry_> I assume you've tried going into the 'monitors' settings to enable it?
[20:54] <omar_> tre uomini e una gamba
[20:54] <Deltatash> Hi can anyone give me a hand with Virtualbox on Ubuntu 10.4 I cant seem to get a command working, I am trying to use this in terminal "VBoxManage setextradata “VM name” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[20:54] <TK5791> terry_:I can only find Display in Ubity
[20:54] <TK5791> Unity
[20:54] <jonathan__> How do you get the fusion icon to appear in oneric?
[20:54] <JetJaguar> You may have to use the propritary drivers to enable that.
[20:54] <Deltatash> but I get VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named '“VM name”
[20:54] <Deltatash> any ideas what is wrong ?
[20:54] <JetJaguar> Deltatash   Did you type in the correct machine name?
[20:55] <TK5791> JetJaguar: was that advice for me?
[20:55] <Deltatash> yeah I have checked a few times now
[20:55] <Deltatash> and I CD into the VM location before running the command
[20:55] <JetJaguar> TK5791  Yep
[20:55] <TK5791> ok.
[20:55] <TK5791> thank you
[20:55] <Daghdha> HI, i have a flaky ETH1 i want to remove from ubuntu completly and  then re-add. What's the best way of doing it?
[20:55] <TK5791> any idea where I might get those drivers from?
[20:56] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Are you running this on a Server or Desktop?
[20:56] <JetJaguar> TK5791  What video card do you have?
[20:56] <TK5791> when I plug the monitor in, it doesn't even appear or recognise the connection
[20:56] <Deltatash> desktop (laptop) with Ubuntu 10.4 Desktop version installed 32 bit
[20:56] <boba88> why i cannot do root (hd0, 5) and then setup (hd0) when reinstallling grun from the live cd
[20:56] <boba88> ?
[20:56] <boba88> why i cannot do root (hd0, 5) and then setup (hd0) when reinstallling grub from the live cd
[20:56] <TK5791> Nvidia
[20:56] <jonathan__> Does anyone know how why fusion-icon wont work in oneric?
[20:56] <jonathan__> is it a unity problem?
[20:57] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Can you launch VirtualBox and look at Manager?
[20:57] <Deltatash> yeah
[20:57] <Deltatash> im in there now looking at VM settings and name etc
[20:57] <xangua> jonathan__: to configure compiz on oneiric use compiz setting manager ;)
[20:57] <JetJaguar> Deltatash What is the name of the VM you are trying to manage on the left?
[20:58] <Deltatash> MacOSX
[20:58] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  No spaces or special characters?
[20:58] <Jragon> I get http://pastebin.com/JPpv55XA at the end of apt-get update.. I've no idea what's wrong with it..
[20:58] <Deltatash> nope
[20:58] <jonathan__> I have not trouble witht he settings manager...just the damn icon
[20:59] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  What command are you attempting to run?
[20:59] <jonathan__> xangua?  Compiz works...icon doesn't
[20:59] <Deltatash> it was originally "Mac OS X" with spaces but it wouldnt work so i thought the command just didnt like spaces so i renamed it by removing spaces
[20:59] <Deltatash> this one
[20:59] <Deltatash> VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named '“MacOSX”
[20:59] <Deltatash> oops sorry 1 sec
[20:59] <detrix42> is there a version of the kernel, compiled for a netbook?
[20:59] <Deltatash> VBoxManage setextradata “MacOSX” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[20:59] <Deltatash> that one
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: i believe its in nvidia xserver settings / then go to xserver display configuration
[21:00] <xangua> jonathan__: fusion icon doesn't support indicator as far as i know, please use compiz setting manager ;)
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: you can get to nvidaia xserver settings by going to dash and typing nvidia
[21:00] <TK5791> geoffmcc: cheers dude
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: no prob
[21:00] <jonathan__> xangua...thanks.
[21:01] <Deltatash> am I right JetJaguar, open terminal CD to VM location and then VBoxManage setextradata “MacOSX” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[21:01] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  What output do you get from "VBoxManage list"?
[21:01] <Jragon> Sorry to sound noobish, but how do you install flash.. It wont let me do it via the software centre LS
[21:01] <Deltatash> ill pastebin it 1 sec
[21:02] <nook> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ;-)
[21:02] <Deltatash> here you go JetJaguar http://pastebin.com/f23nbFNb
[21:03] <Jragon> Thanks :)
[21:03] <moxie> oops meant to join #debian
[21:03] <nook> but u have to enable the non free sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:04] <Deltatash> any ideas JetJaguar ?
[21:04] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Try your command without the quotes around the machine name...
[21:04] <Deltatash> ok
[21:04] <Jragon> Distro upgrade?
[21:05] <Deltatash> *****
[21:05] <Deltatash> it worked
[21:05] <Deltatash> lol
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Awesome
[21:05] <Deltatash> thanks JetJaguar :D
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Yep
[21:05] <Deltatash> the website i used told me the quotes was needed :s
[21:05] <Deltatash> now to test if it had an effect on my VM xD
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Probably if you have spaces in the name.
[21:05] <xangua> Jragon: enable partner repository to install adobe flash plugin
[21:05] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:05] <xangua> !partner
[21:05] <Jragon> xangua, how do I do that?
[21:06] <detrix42> is there a version of the kernel, compiled for a netbook?
[21:06] <xangua> Jragon: read the factoid i just send you...
[21:07] <Jragon> xangua, alright.. Now what?"
[21:08] <JetJaguar> I love it when a plan comes together
[21:08] <jason00> Question - Does anybody know how I can import music from my ipod into Ubuntu? I know I can "sync" it, but is that a 1 way sync or would that sync my iPod to my empty Music folder within Ubuntu?
[21:09] <xangua> Jragon: now reload repositories and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:09] <pythonirc101> How can i make my ubuntu box not start in text mode and automatically login into my account?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> flashplugun-installer
[21:10] <xangua> jason00: you can use gtkpod to manage your iphone music and files, that is one way
[21:10] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[21:10] <Deltatash> lol after all that JetJaguar and the settings the command was supposed to do didnt do anything to my VM xD still stuck on a low resolution xD
[21:10] <Jragon> xangua, I get: http://pastebin.com/HwX4a5Du at the end :S
[21:10] <pythonirc101> 11.04
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> jason00: Banshee will work with most models of iPods very similarly to what iTunes can do for them.
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> (Music only - not apps and such)
[21:10] <jason00> xangua: I'm not asking how to manage it. I know rhythmbox, clementine, banshee, etc can manage it. I want to synchronize ALL of my ipod's contents onto my ubuntu machine and from here on out use my ubuntu machine to manage it.
[21:10] <jason00> tonyyarusso: right, but I want to draw the files OFF of the ipod
[21:10] <tonyyarusso> jason00: Should be able to do that just fine.
[21:11] <jason00> tonyyarusso: k... I'm just not seeing how. At the moment I'm in rhythmbox.
[21:11] <Toph2> i'm running 11.10. How do I get to my desltop with one click?
[21:11] <tonyyarusso> jason00: Copy?  Drag and drop?
[21:11] <xangua> jason00: there is an ubuntu one client for iOS, there is also dropbox
[21:11] <jutnux> Toph2: Cntrl + Alt + D
[21:11] <xangua> Ubuntu One*
[21:11] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Can you change the resolution in the actual VM?
[21:11] <jason00> xangua: do you understand what I am asking?
[21:11] <Deltatash> nope
[21:11] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: 11.04. Any ideas ?
[21:12] <Jragon> xangua, when I do apt-get install adobe-flashplugin I get http://pastebin.com/QMT7UiEV
[21:12] <Toph2> jutnux,,, thanks,, that does it
[21:12] <jason00> xangua: I have an ipod. With music. I also have an ubuntu system with NO music. I want to synchronize that ipod with ubuntu so all of the ipod contents are now accessible on my ubuntu system. Dropbox and ubuntu one would not help me.
[21:12] <xangua> Jragon: that is just a error message of a repository with no packages candidats for oneiric
[21:12] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Desktop or server?
[21:12] <jutnux> Jragon: Download it from the adobe website.
[21:12] <Deltatash> it only shows one resolution lol, tried editing the com.apple.Boot.plist didnt work so i tried that command i showed you still no luck xD
[21:12] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: desktop i think, how can i tell?
[21:12] <elotro> jason00: i know there is ubuntuone app for android
[21:13] <jason00> elotro: djfla;sdjflkasdflkasjfls
[21:13] <jason00> That's not what I'm asking.
[21:13] <jason00> In no way shape or form will ubuntu one or drop box help me.
[21:13] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Strange...  I can change resolution in a Windows VM.  Haven't done a Mac one.
[21:13] <jutnux> jason00: Try banshee, I think that's what it is called.
[21:13] <xangua> there is also Ubuntu One Music jason00
[21:13] <jason00> jutnux: I'm in rhythmbox at the moment. I was in banshee earlier. I just couldn't see how I could draw the music off.
[21:13] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Did you do the install or did someone else?
[21:13] <jason00> xangua: that. will. not. work.
[21:13] <jason00> xangua: I'll say it again. That won't work.
[21:14] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: someone else
[21:14] <jason00> xangua: ubuntu one, dropbox, all of that will not do what I am trying to do.
[21:14] <Deltatash> yeah, mac one is a little restricted I think :/ it was a bit dodgy for me to get it installed need to start the vm with a .iso boot loader to start it or OS X wont load
[21:14] <jason00> I think I just figured it out??
[21:14] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Well if that person installed Ubuntu Server then it doesn't come with a "desktop".  Only the command line.
[21:14] <Deltatash> i mean it works its just a little annoying to not have a full screen got 2 black bars down each side lol
[21:15] <zykotick9> jason00, i'm under (possible incorrectly) the assumption that iPods where designed to prevent what you are trying to do (get the music off).  Good luck.
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: I'm not dealing with music, which is where it's frustrating.
[21:15] <pythonirc101> JetJaguar: I can do startx and get a nice gnome desktop
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: I work for a school district, and we have purchased site-licensed audio books for students.
[21:15] <JetJaguar> Deltatash,  that's annoying.
[21:15] <jutnux> I really, really like Unity to be honest.
[21:15] <jason00> zykotick9: we bought a few more ipods, so now I need to populate their library with the same contents as the other ipods.
[21:15] <thopiekar> hi.. can you help getting this problem solved? We are using these packaging files lp:~maliit-team/+junk/maliit-framework-debian to package lp:~maliit-team/maliit/maliit-framework and we want to make them compatible to oneiric and natty while oneiric has multi-arch support and paths for the install files differ.. how can I make the debian files work on both releases?
[21:15] <Deltatash> I thought I would try that same command again but with "sudo" at the begining see if it makes a difference
[21:15] <xangua> jason00: Ubuntu One Music says it can sync songs with no DRM https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/iphone/
[21:15] <jason00> jutnux: if you like unity, you'll love gnome shell. :P
[21:16] <Deltatash> but adding sudo gives me the error again saying it cant find a registered vm name xD
[21:16] <jutnux> I HATE gnome-shell.
[21:16] <Jragon> Arrggg! I can't get Flash installed!
[21:16] <JetJaguar> pythonirc101  Strange, by default, the desktop starts at bootup...
[21:16] <jason00> xangua: thanks, but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to draw the files off of the ipod and onto my ubuntu system. How will my ipod connect to ubuntu one? There's no way for that.
[21:16] <jutnux> Too buggy in my opinion
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: I did too when I started using it.
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: the more I use it, the more I love it.
[21:16] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  That may do it.
[21:16] <jason00> jutnux: if you think gnome shell is buggy, I wonder how you can tolerate unity. :P They're both young and after some updates thye'll both be beautiful and functional. But Unity has quite a bit longer to go yet in my opinion.
[21:17] <jason00> zykotick9: I think I figured it out by a simple CTRL+A and drag/drop to the Music folder within Rhythmbox. Durp....
[21:17] <jutnux> I guess, but I do love UNity.
[21:17] <jutnux> Increases my work flow by loads.
[21:17] <Deltatash> yeah just cant get it to work with sudo
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: mine too.
[21:17] <Deltatash> VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named 'MacOSX' comes back if i add sudo
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: I like having options, ya know? Gnome shell and unity can co-exist so nicely together on 11.10 being both GTK3 based.
[21:17] <jutnux> Umhm
[21:17] <jason00> jutnux: it's nice just installing them and switching between interchangably.
[21:18] <d3f4c3d> Dynamips listens on IPV6 after replacing new NIC's - anyone help ?
[21:18] <jutnux> I guess I don't mind Gnome-shell if I customise it loads
[21:18] <xangua> jason00: then just use gtkpod to export all the data from your ipod
[21:18] <jutnux> the default look is absolutely disgusting thoug
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: It's just... I treat Unity like Internet Explorer right now.
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: In Windows, I use IE to download Chrome or Firefox. In Ubuntu, I use Unity to download Gnome Shell. :D
[21:18] <Jragon> Please help me!
[21:18] <jutnux> jason00: I don't have IE installed anywhere :')
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: lol it's actually not that bad, just messing. they're both really good.
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: nor do I, but that was the best analogy I had. :D
[21:18] <jutnux> Jragon: Download it from the software center!
[21:18] <jason00> jutnux: since, after all, everybody knows IE as the universal alternative browser downloader.
[21:19] <jutnux> jason00: Two conflicting opinions and a constructive argument. Much better than what usually happens ;)
[21:19] <harvey_> having issues with a WN311B pci card, trying to get it to install. i have the broadcom drivers but i can't install them because dkms isn't installed and i can't install dkms for some reason saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: patch"
[21:19] <Jragon> I've tried but it gives me some error saying, these programmes must be uninstalled to continue...
[21:19] <jutnux> There was actually an article on Mashable (I think) called "Rename IE to Chrome/Firefox downloader"
[21:19] <jason00> harvey_: can you install patch?
[21:19] <jason00> jutnux: that's a very accurate (and fair) name for it in my opinion...
[21:20] <scorinitron> agreed
[21:20] <Jragon> Please can someone help
[21:20] <harvey_> jason00: i'm not sure what "patch" is and no idea how to get it
[21:20] <Jonii> Whats the most lightweight mp3 player for ubuntu?
[21:20] <jutnux> Agreed.
[21:20] <jason00> harvey_: I'm not sure either. my first thought was to run sudo apt-get install patch and see what happens.
[21:20] <xangua> Jragon: if you would share all the output instead of just the last few lines
[21:20] <jason00> harvey_: I can't say hat'll fix it, it was just my first thought.
[21:20] <JetJaguar> XFCE RULES!
[21:21] <scorinitron> xfce?
[21:21] <Deltatash> anyone have any idea why "VBoxManage setextradata MacOSX “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”" seems to work but as soon as I add sudo to the beginning I get VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named 'Mac OS X'
[21:21] <zykotick9> Jonii, there are a number of cli apps that play MP3s - can't get more lightweight then that
[21:21] <harvey_> jason00: can't connect to the internet with that computer, how is apt-get going to find me anything?
[21:21] <rebecca> hello?
[21:21] <jason00> harvey_: well yeah that'll be an issue. I wasn't aware you were connection-less.
[21:21] <rebecca> hello?
[21:21] <JetJaguar> Hello Rebecca
[21:21] <jason00> harvey_: I thought there was a resource online to download repo packages from other computers as a file, then flash-drive htem over, but I'm not sure....
[21:21] <harvey_> jason00: with that PC yes, my windows PC works just fine =P
[21:21] <Deltatash> using Ubuntu 10.4 with Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1
[21:22] <scorinitron> OMG XFCE Looks Awesome^^
[21:22] <Jragon> Okay
[21:22] <scorinitron> Downloading it now ^^
[21:22] <jutnux> Unity is still sexier ;)
[21:22] <jason00> we use XFCE here at work.
[21:22] <jason00> It's great.
[21:22] <jutnux> I used to use XFCE
[21:22] <jason00> Unity would never survive here. It's too fat for some of our low powered machines.
[21:22] <jutnux> switched back to Unity here
[21:22] <jutnux> I have XFCE on a rubbish laptop
[21:22] <surfdue> What is the S flag in chmod
[21:22] <harvey_> jason00: i have the broadcom/dkms files on an external but if i could figure out what "patch" was then i would just download and transfer it
[21:22] <jutnux> and installed LFDE (I think) on one of my mates pcs
[21:22] <jason00> jutnux: tried lxde yet? It's even lighter than XFCE
[21:23] <jason00> jutnux: lxde makes 10 year old computers purrr
[21:23] <jason00> harvey_: I'm not too sure then bro. :( I just figured I'd fire out that thought in case it would help.
[21:23] <Jragon> xangua, http://pastebin.com/5v2hk7zz
[21:23] <JetJaguar> Using Lubuntu on this computer...  lol
[21:23] <scorinitron> Unity uses too much resources I'm stuck on it and have been looking for something more light weight
[21:23] <jason00> harvey_: is this a wireless system?
[21:23] <harvey_> jason00: going to assume the only way i can do this is with a 50ft cat5 and just directly connect lol
[21:23] <jutnux> Jason00: Umhm I have, it is pretty amazing. This is why I love Linux based OS's, so many varieties for different requirements.
[21:23] <harvey_> jason00: yes it is
[21:23] <rebecca> Hello I have a question. See, I want to change my password without logging in and I know that I need to go to recovery mode and type in passwd user but it always says this when I first enter: computer login: I forget how to escape this so it will let me change my password. So what do I type in in order to change my password before I type in passwd user?
[21:24] <scorinitron> is their some way I can unbloat ubuntu?
[21:24] <jason00> harvey_: do you're trying to install broadcom drivers on a laptop? wireless drivers at that?
[21:24] <harvey_> jason00: no no, it's an OEM PC
[21:24] <xangua> Jragon: if you are using mint please go to mint support channel
[21:24] <scorinitron> by deleting  unity and gnome 3 and installing xfce?
[21:24] <xangua> !mint Jragon
[21:24] <xangua> !mint
[21:24] <harvey_> jason00: and i'm trying to install wireless drivers on that
[21:25] <jutnux> http://www.howtogeek.com/geekers/up/sshot4ecba27220325.jpg
[21:25] <crimsonmane> !wine
[21:25] <OerHeks> rebecca it asks for your accountname first, not the password itself
[21:25] <scorinitron> !xfce
[21:25] <harvey_> jason00: hence the 50ft cat5 lol
[21:25] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  I'd say just start with Xubuntu....
[21:25] <rebecca> I know, but after that what do I do OerHeks?
[21:25] <Jragon> xangua, I'm on ubuntu 11.10 :S
[21:25] <jason00> harvey_: if you are trying to install wireless broadcom drivers on a linux system, you'll almost be guaranteed to need to plug in via ethernet. That is, honestly, the easiest thing to do. Broadcom does not allow their firmware/drivers to be packaged and work out of the box on linux systems.
[21:25] <scorinitron> dang but doesn't that mean reformatting my entire HDD again and starting from scratch?
[21:25] <OerHeks> !password | rebecca
[21:25] <jason00> harvey_: for my broadcom systems, I plug them in, go to additional drivers menu, and it'll see through the backend repo what drivers are available. I download, install, reboot, unplug cat5, and I'm on wireless.
[21:25] <harvey_> jason00: i've noticed, i really hate broadcom.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: I hate to say it but I think that's your best bet.
[21:26] <jutnux> Jason00: My broadcom drivers work fine in 11.10
[21:26] <jason00> jutnux: right. You also had to have installed them separately.
[21:26] <Deltatash> JetJaguar, how about this I open the MacOSX.vbox in gedit and check the settings it seems the first lot of settings worked in terminal i see the screen resolution i wanted is in the config file...
[21:26] <harvey_> jason00: appreciate the help. hopefully i can just do that and it will work
[21:26] <jutnux> Jason00: Nope, worked out of the box.
[21:26] <jason00> jutnux: I did hear that broadcom recently released an open source driver, but I don't know how well it is.
[21:26] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  You can do that or you could just install xfce seperately...
[21:26] <Deltatash> but when I boot up it defaults to a lower resolution regardless of what is in the .vbox config file... wtf lol
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: I used to work in a windows environment with 2,000 windows ysstems.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: broadcom sucked there too
[21:26] <rebecca> I know this... I do not need help recovering my password I remember it fine. All I want to know is what to do to CHANGE it.
[21:26] <jason00> harvey_: whether wired, wireless, you name it. they're pretty bad.
[21:27] <Deltatash> you think its cus I am having to use a .iso boot loader to boot the OS ?
[21:27] <matthew> Hello I have tried the Xubuntu chat room and got nothing. I just install xubuntu 11.10 and did updates and restarted, install ATI proprietary drivers and restarted and tried to setup my dual monitors and i press apply and it crashes and says Segmentation fault. Somebody please help?
[21:27] <harvey_> jason00: haha i know and i don't understand why netgear uses all their chipsets
[21:27] <Deltatash> maybe the boot loader is defaulting it for some reason
[21:27] <jason00> harvey_: in the grand scheme of things, plugging in and having to install a driver one time in the installation's life isn't too bad.
[21:27] <jason00> jutnux: I know broadcom had an open source driver. Maybe you got it? I don't know. I have yet to see a broadcom wireless system work out of box.
[21:27] <harvey_> jason00: agreed, i'll just find my cat5 and try to do it
[21:27] <jason00> jutnux: speaking of which, that broadcom system was wireless, right???
[21:27] <jason00> harvey_: good luck bro!
[21:27] <JetJaguar> Deltatash   Hmmm...  are there Vbox extentions that you have to install in MacOSX like there is in Windows?
[21:27] <jutnux> Indeed it was.
[21:27] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, really? but wouldn't Gnome and Unity run in the background ultimately weaking my system down?
[21:27] <zykotick9> rebecca, boot to recovery the "passwd rebecca" assuming rebecca is your user name
[21:28] <harvey_> jason00: thanks, cya around
[21:28] <zykotick9> s/the/then/
[21:28] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  You could uninstall them.
[21:28] <OerHeks> oh, to change it, you need to login, i don't know a way without
[21:28] <jason00> jutnux: yeah, I've yet to see a broadcom wireless system work out of the box. I suppose it's possible though, since after all, I DID hear they had an open source driver. But I have yet to run into a broadcom system with wireless that worked out of the box.
[21:28] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: you mean additions? no
[21:28] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, well this is info I didn't know XD how would I do that safely?
[21:28] <jutnux> Umhm!
[21:28] <Excedere> Can anyone think of a reason why uptime/who/etc report 0 users logged in?
[21:28] <jutnux> Let me boot it up and find out the model name
[21:29] <rebecca> nonono I know this! But when I type in passwd rebecca and enter it says my login pass is incorrect! but that is not what I am trying to do so how do escape that mode and boot up the ls and such?
[21:29] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, I thought you were stuck with what ever GUI you got for that OS
[21:29] <yazdmich> what is the minimum requirements for a minimal ubuntu install with the mini.iso image?
[21:29] <joltik> Is this the right channel for ubuntu support?
[21:29] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  Ubott posted something above...  Check it out.
[21:29] <Deltatash> Gentoo dunno I went to the VM directory that its saved in and apparently the .vbox file is the config file
[21:29] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: When you boot to recovery mode, you should be getting a menu on a blue background, with an option for "Drop to a root shell", which is the one you want to select.  It's after that stage that you would do 'passwd rebecca'.  It sounds like perhaps the earlier steps aren't happening properly.  Could you describe the process you're doing, and tell us what version of Ubuntu this is on?
[21:29] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: sorry i wasnt following properlu
[21:29] <Gentoo64> thought you simply meant osx guest additions
[21:29] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  No, you can change it in Linux.
[21:30] <Deltatash> JetJaguar, the extensions I can install for Virtualbox are to allow USB support if i remember right only other thing I can think of is the guest additions which is for windows
[21:30] <yazdmich> ?
[21:30] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, wow...I feel dumb lol I didn't know XD
[21:30] <JetJaguar> Deltatash you may need to install the guest additions.  I know a video driver gets installed with the Windows version.
[21:30] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, so what's the best GUI you used so far?
[21:31] <Jragon> xangua, please help me
[21:31] <Deltatash> I am using EmpireEFI4AMD.iso to boot it im just wondering if that is defaulting it ?
[21:31] <geoffmcc> JetJaguar: jutnux: usually the sta driver is available in additial drivers out of the box, it just needs activated. however i ususally install the firmware-b43-installer package and use those instead.
[21:31] <scorinitron> JetJaguar, outside of gnome, unity, and xfce?
[21:31] <rebecca> Ok... I am pretty sure this is Ubuntu 10.10 and it does not boot up a blue backround and display those messages. What I do is on the login screen, I press Ctrl Alt F1 to reach boot menu and that is when "login computer" is displayed.
[21:31] <Deltatash> maybe I can try... but im not sure there is a guest additions for mac os x I will check
[21:31] <yazdmich> hello?
[21:31] <scorinitron> Jragon, are you just trying to install adobe flash on your pc?
[21:31] <Jragon> Yes
[21:31] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: there arent
[21:31] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Ah, okay.  You're not actually booting into recovery mode.
[21:32] <Deltatash> then I am screwed lol xD
[21:32] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Take a look at the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword - you need to select it from the Grub menu before booting.
[21:32] <Deltatash> nothing has worked that should have xD
[21:32] <scorinitron> jragon, what OS r u running what version of linux
[21:32] <yazdmich> what is the minimum requirements for a minimal hardy heron install with the mini.iso image?
[21:32] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: i have osx in a vm and its pretty sucky with no additions
[21:32] <Jragon> ubuntu 11.10
[21:32] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:32] <JetJaguar> scorinitron  All depends on what your needs are.  I needed really light weight for this system so I went Lubuntu.  At home I use something different.
[21:32] <Deltatash> it isnt the smoothest running thing for me either
[21:32] <pcpower> how do you create an upstart job that only does something on shutdown? I'm having a VERY hard time understanding upstart in general, and the documentation isn't helping much.
[21:32] <yazdmich> what are*
[21:32] <Deltatash> but I need to learn how to use the OS X system a little more for my job lol
[21:33] <Deltatash> VM is best way I can do it, cant afford a full blown mac lol xD so i just got operating system xD
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: its more than usable with no additions :s
[21:33] <joltik> I installed a dual boot ubuntu on my parents computer and I promised it would work, but when I turn the computer on it turns white and starts turning black like its overloading the screen.
[21:33] <bekks> yazdmich: Erm, why do you want such an old version?
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: its fast on mine
[21:33] <Deltatash> yeah ?
[21:33] <Deltatash> mine is pretty laggy lol
[21:33] <scorinitron> Jragon, here is the link it's an entire guide on how to install flash on ubuntu 11.10 http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/07/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[21:33] <rebecca> oh, well then how do i reach recovery mode? my friend taught me it this way a while ago and it worked fine. i cannot understand what I am forgetting now because I would like to try remembering what I did then, because it worked. Do you know another way, like this, perhaps? To display the ls ?
[21:33] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: yeah, but additions would make it faster
[21:33] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[21:33] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:33] <Deltatash> but we dont have additions for mac os x in virtual box ?
[21:34] <Gentoo64> no
[21:34] <yazdmich> bekks: trying to get an old computer to be useful
[21:34] <Gentoo64> never have
[21:34] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: Only if you have and know a root password, which is a rather different approach.
[21:34] <yazdmich> compaq preasrio 4814
[21:34] <joltik> I just ran a boot recovery
[21:34] <bekks> Deltatash: Unless you are a proud owner of Apple Hardware, you will infringe the copyright agreement of Apple - even when runninf Mac OSX in a vm.
[21:34] <Deltatash> my laptop is full ati/amd to...dunno if that causes any lag ? no intel or nvidia parts lol
[21:34] <Gentoo64> nah
[21:34] <Gentoo64> i doubt it
[21:34] <yazdmich> so
[21:34] <brontosaurusrex> Deltatash, what do you need to learn?
[21:35] <yazdmich> what are the minimum requirements
[21:35] <joltik> could anyone help me?
[21:35] <rebecca> AHA! That's another thing! Sorry I forget to tell you... all my fault. Before I did all that, I typed in root and it then displayed root@rebecca. But I tried doing this now and it seems that I have forgotten a step.
[21:35] <Deltatash> just general things on it lol I am IT support at work mostly with windows, but on occasion I have to sort things out on mac...would just be nice to practice on it at home get to grips with it and be more fluent in navigating and general trouble shooting
[21:35] <scorinitron> Jragon, you their
[21:35] <Jragon> Yes.
[21:36] <Jragon> It still doesn't work..
[21:36] <scorinitron> jragon, just click this
[21:36] <jutnux> Unless you buy a mac you will have a hard time.
[21:36] <Deltatash> makes me feel a right dope when my first time adding a printer on mac took me 20 mins to find out how to add it...hahah xD ultra noob
[21:36] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: yeah thats why i put mine in vm just to mess around with it
[21:36] <yazdmich> so
[21:36] <yazdmich> hello?
[21:36] <joltik> Please, I promised it would work, and I can't figure out what to do.
[21:36] <Jragon> Screw it...
[21:36] <Jragon> I'm going back to Mint.
[21:36] <JetJaguar> Hello
[21:36] <Deltatash> yeah Id like the same it works, but its just a little slow and not so big resolution xD i cna put up with it but would be nice if i could get better resolution
[21:37] <ubuntunoob> @jragon JOIN US :D
[21:37] <ubuntunoob> MINT ROX
[21:37] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: not possible afaik. i really dont know anything about mac, but you may be able to tweak a file
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> i'm downloading mint 12
[21:37] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:37] <yazdmich> is mint good for old computers?
[21:37] <rebecca> so what do you think the step is i forgot?
[21:38] <yazdmich> like 10+
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: i was playing with a openbsd guest and could tweak the xorg.conf in some odd way to get massive res with no additions
[21:38] <tonyyarusso> rebecca: no idea
[21:38] <Deltatash> I was originally trying VBoxManage setextradata MacOSX “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: but itll always be laggy
[21:38] <JetJaguar> If you really want lightweight then use CrunchBang.  lol
[21:38] <Deltatash> but it would say it couldnt find the rgistered name
[21:38] <scorinitron> Jragon, you know how to open your terminal right?
[21:38] <rebecca> i will try again
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> yazdmich, as much as ubuntu or less
[21:38] <auronandace> yazdmich: why are you asking that in #ubuntu?
[21:38] <rebecca> brb
[21:38] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: tbh youll just have to deal with it
[21:38] <Deltatash> maybe xD
[21:38] <Gentoo64> no easy way round it
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> i have a question whats the difference between xfce power manager and gnome power manager?
[21:39] <joltik> does anyone here know anything about fixing a booting problem with a ubuntu windows dual boot?
[21:39] <Deltatash> if my laptop was intel and nvidia id give a hackintosh a go lol
[21:39] <yazdmich> because im not geting any answers for ubuntu
[21:39] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob: xfce one is for xfce and gnome one is for gnome
[21:39] <tonyyarusso> joltik: depends on the problem
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> i know that
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> but whats the difference between features
[21:39] <Deltatash> dont quite think amd and ati is the best hardware for  hackintosh :P
[21:39] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: id rather use linux lol
[21:39] <ubuntunoob> and settings?
[21:39] <Deltatash> me to but mac is used more where i work than linux :(
[21:39] <scorinitron> jragon, To Quickly install and enable Adobe flash Open the Terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and run this command to install flash player  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:40] <JetJaguar> Deltatash,  ew.
[21:40] <Deltatash> and my work is too tight to put out on another mac book for me to learn how to use them lol xD
[21:40] <scorinitron> Jragon, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:40] <joltik> tonyyarusso: I am not sure what the problem is, when I start up, it turns white and then looks like its trying to burn black into my screen
[21:40] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: nah its very picky. i think i have the hardware for it. i even tried it once. but messing with the kext etc isnt worth it, upgreades might or might not fail. plus the fact that i hate mac anyway
[21:40] <Deltatash> so its just guess work when someone with one has a problem and asks me to fix it >.<
[21:40] <Deltatash> haha
[21:40] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: no. just sue the laggy one in vbox
[21:40] <JetJaguar> Mac's have problems?
[21:40] <Gentoo64> you can still learn
[21:41] <yazdmich> what are the minimum requirements for a minimal hardy heron install using the mini.iso image?
[21:41] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:41] <Deltatash> I mean it seems to be fully functional
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> hardy is not supported
[21:41] <Deltatash> just a bit of lag
[21:41] <Deltatash> so... its better than nothing as long as I can learn :)
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> use lucid or maverick
[21:41] <xangua> yazdmich: hardy is no longer supported, at least not the desktop
[21:41] <Gentoo64> Deltatash: thats what i mean i think its the best youll get without buying one :)
[21:41] <Deltatash> yeah :)
[21:41] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: it still is supported on servers
[21:41] <scorinitron> Jragon, ...
[21:41] <Deltatash> there is only 2 linux computers where I work lol xD
[21:41] <Deltatash> ubuntu 10.4 lts ;)
[21:41] <ubuntunoob> ik that
[21:42] <fansubcana> hi
[21:42] <Deltatash> I managed to convince them to start using linux in some areas lol
[21:42] <ubuntunoob> but they should use newer version :P
[21:42] <Deltatash> one is the computer I use :D and the other sits in reception on a massive screen playing a slideshow 24/7 never turns off hasnt been restarted in months lol still going smooth no slow down xD
[21:42] <ubuntunoob> i can
[21:43] <ubuntunoob>  not
[21:43] <JetJaguar> I'm using linux so that I can run multiple Win7 VM's for software testing.
[21:43] <Deltatash> cool :P
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> stand using ubuntu on my Powerpc eMac
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> its so slowww
[21:43] <ubuntunoob> i  use debian on my eMac
[21:43] <Deltatash> I just need my favourite games to be made natively for linux then I can make the ful switch xD
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> wine 1.3 anyone ??
[21:44] <JetJaguar> Delta  Use wine...  lol
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> @delta
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> :P
[21:44] <Deltatash> lol wine is only so good :P Dawn of War II dont work in wine :(
[21:44] <Deltatash> neets .net2.5 or 3 or something
[21:44] <ubuntunoob> you try 1.3 ??
[21:45] <Deltatash> I think it was 1.2 ?
[21:45] <Deltatash> it was early this year I tried it
[21:45] <ubuntunoob> try 1.3 its better
[21:45] <joltik> If the boot is broken should I reinstal ubuntu?
[21:45] <ubuntunoob> more compatibility
[21:45] <Deltatash> does it have support for .net 2.5 and 3?
[21:45] <joltik> reinstall*
[21:45] <xangua> joltik: you mean grub ¿
[21:45] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Check out http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[21:46] <joltik> xangua I think, I am not totally sure
[21:46] <xangua> Deltatash: desura was released too - like  Steam-lite, says the post http://is.gd/kJEU2K
[21:46] <Excedere> imo its easier to get most things running with just wine and a little know-how vs playonlinux
[21:46] <xangua> !grub | joltik
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> http://www.desura.com/
[21:46] <Deltatash> yeah play on linux pretty good i used to use it for steam :D
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> xangua  was faster :)
[21:47] <Deltatash> hmm Desura ? ill take a look :)
[21:47] <ubuntunoob> that would be a yes deltahttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9828
[21:47] <joltik> I installed ubuntu after windows
[21:47] <ubuntunoob> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9828
[21:47] <joltik> off of a live flashdrive
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> joltik  and now now you have to repair grub?
[21:48] <Deltatash> so desura is like a steam client ?
[21:48] <Deltatash> but all native linux games ?
[21:48] <scorinitron> what native linux games?
[21:48] <scorinitron> linux actually has decent games?
[21:48] <JetJaguar> SuperBlob...  lol
[21:48] <ubuntunoob> yes
[21:48] <joltik> MonkeyDust , I tried a boot repair, was that right?
[21:49] <pcpower> 16:48:47 < scorinitron> linux actually has decent games?
[21:49] <pcpower> depends on what kind of games you like
[21:49] <scorinitron> well anything that has good graphics
[21:49] <JetJaguar> Solitaire works great...
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> Deltatash  there's also Lutrix and UGP
[21:49] <jerenept> Xonotic
[21:49] <Deltatash> hmm
[21:49] <pcpower> you're not getting any AAA titles on linux
[21:49] <scorinitron> shooting games, racing games, emulators, anything?
[21:49] <Deltatash> we might be getting Rage
[21:49] <Deltatash> Linux Native
[21:49] <jerenept> xonotic.org
[21:49] <scorinitron> does linux have emulators?
[21:50] <pcpower> yes
[21:50] <jerenept> yea
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[21:50] <scorinitron> ok...any thing like VBA or NO$GBA
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> supertuxkart
[21:50] <Deltatash> World of Warcraft plays pretty well in linux, but I dont play it anymore lol xD
[21:50] <scorinitron> or  N64
[21:50] <scorinitron> SNES?
[21:50] <Deltatash> I used to get higher FPS in linux than I did in Windows... wtf lol
[21:50] <ubuntunoob> desume
[21:51] <scorinitron> plain and simple... I have a PC controller...
[21:51] <joltik> My grub is messed up...
[21:51] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[21:51] <jerenept> For GBA try VirtualBoy
[21:51] <scorinitron> I want something that is worthy of me playing with with a PC controller...
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> upgrade to 3.2.1 linux kernel
[21:51] <jerenept> Jupiter Applet
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> runescape is awesome shut it haters
[21:51] <pcpower> there is no 3.2.1...
[21:51] <ubuntunoob> yes it is
[21:52] <Deltatash> Dynasty Warriors! is for a PC controller! lol
[21:52] <Deltatash> but dunno if it works in wine xD
[21:52] <pcpower> not according to http://kernel.org/
[21:52] <ubuntunoob> oops
[21:52] <ubuntunoob> meant 3.1.2
[21:52] <pcpower> see :)
[21:52] <scorinitron> lol
[21:53] <joltik>  How do I repair a grub?
[21:53] <cipherboy> Anyone running linux 3.x in here?
[21:53] <iceroot> !grub | cipherboy
[21:53] <ubuntunoob> i am
[21:53] <JetJaguar> Wasn't there a linux version of Wolfenstein?
[21:53] <scorinitron> Seriously though is their a reall good emulator package I can get
[21:53] <raf> sdf
[21:53] <pcpower> what do you want to emulate?
[21:53] <cipherboy> iceroot, I didn't ask about grub.
[21:53] <jerenept> VisualBooyAdvance
[21:53] <Deltatash> yeah i think there may have been JetJaguar dont quote me on that though
[21:53] <scorinitron> DS, PS1 GBA SNES etc
[21:53] <scorinitron> PS1 would have me golden
[21:53] <iceroot> cipherboy: sorry wrong line
[21:54] <pcpower> google is your friend
[21:54] <scorinitron> XD
[21:54] <iceroot> !grub | joltik
[21:54] <Deltatash> How do I get this Desura
[21:54] <joltik> kk, il check this
[21:54] <auronandace> cipherboy: plenty are running linux 3.x
[21:54] <scorinitron> OMG Your Right PCPOWER
[21:54] <Deltatash> nvm found it xD
[21:54] <scorinitron> found it XD
[21:54] <scorinitron> Now I'm All EXCITED AND HAPPY!!
[21:54] <scorinitron> lol
[21:54] <JetJaguar> Found what?
[21:54] <cipherboy> Is it included in 11.10? Haven't upgraded past 11.04, liking my gnome...
[21:54] <cipherboy> (gnome2)
[21:54] <scorinitron> PS1 Emulator for linux
[21:55] <zykotick9> scorinitron, for PS1 check out pSX (it's not in the repos)
[21:55] <Deltatash> Does Desura have any free to play games ? so I can test drive it ?
[21:55] <scorinitron> PSX exe is what I used in windows
[21:55] <auronandace> !info linux-generic | cipherboy
[21:55] <cipherboy> auronandace, ty
[21:56] <ubuntunoob> cipherboy: install it with this  http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/how-to-install-kernel-31-on-ubuntu.html
[21:56] <ubuntunoob> and replace the 3.1.0 with 3.1.2
[21:56] <jerenept> Deltatash:Xonotic is in Desura
[21:56] <Deltatash> ohh
[21:56] <scorinitron> What would be the easyist way to get rid of the unity and gnome gui
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> install xfce @ scorinitron
[21:57] <jrib> scorinitron: just install what you want and use that
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> the commands
[21:57] <scorinitron> it won't run things in the background will it?
[21:57] <scorinitron> will I still keep my data?
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> yes
[21:58] <scorinitron> can I run an awesome tron theme?
[21:58] <scorinitron> XD
[21:58] <Deltatash> lol awesome tron theme FTW!
[21:58] <Deltatash> I want a screenshot :P
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> once you install xfce you can choose between xfce and gnome at the login screen
[21:58] <scorinitron> oh
[21:58] <ubuntunoob> and change the session to xfce
[21:58] <jrib> scorinitron: just choose the environment you want (after you install it) at the login screen
[21:59] <JetJaguar> Awesome and TRON are redundant.
[21:59] <Deltatash> pfft Tron was a good film xD
[21:59] <scorinitron> Deltatash,  I was looking for a tron theme came across some real awesome ones but I can't seem to get them to install correctly
[21:59] <Deltatash> I enjoyed it anyway :P
[21:59] <Deltatash> ohh :/ not so good then lol xD
[21:59] <scorinitron> Tron Legacy was AWESOME but the character development sucked
[21:59] <scorinitron> I felt it was too rushed
[21:59] <Deltatash> Ive not really played with ubuntu themes tbh though im not even sure where i would start to install a new one haha xD
[21:59] <Deltatash> maybe
[22:00] <scorinitron> but the graphics was enough
[22:00] <Deltatash> yeah :)
[22:00] <scorinitron> to get me dreaming  of a world inside of computers
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> I LOVE XFCE  it uses a lot less then gnome
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> the ram that is
[22:00] <Deltatash> the day I watched tron I was sick shortly after...caught some random stomach bug.... lol xD
[22:00] <scorinitron> XD
[22:00] <scorinitron> lol
[22:00] <scorinitron> <<17
[22:00] <scorinitron> I'm 17 U?
[22:00] <Deltatash> me ?
[22:00] <scorinitron> yeah
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> and xfce has a dock
[22:00] <Deltatash> 21
[22:00] <scorinitron> Cool!
[22:00] <Deltatash> :)
[22:01] <zykotick9> !ot
[22:01] <scorinitron> my bro is older than you XD
[22:01] <Deltatash> lol
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> its much better than gnome if you ask me
[22:01] <scorinitron> command?
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get install xfce*
[22:01] <Deltatash> I command you to get me some food :P
[22:01] <scorinitron> lol thanks
[22:01] <ubuntunoob> no prob :D
[22:01] <scorinitron> I guess it never changes
[22:01] <cipherboy> sudo make food: target food not found
[22:01] <Deltatash> lol
[22:02] <Gentoo64> no one mentioned make me a sandwich yet?
[22:02] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:02] <scorinitron> unable to locate package xfce?
[22:02] <JetJaguar> Saw the original TRON in the theater...  lol
[22:02] <Deltatash> I will have ot try this XFCE myself as well sometime lol but for now im hapopy with gnome 2 :P
[22:02] <Deltatash> Gentoo64 You can have some of my sandwich cus your a linux user! makes you call ;D
[22:02] <ubuntunoob> you have to add the asterisk as part of the command
[22:02] <Deltatash> *cool
[22:02] <cipherboy> Gentoo64, not yet. Later.
[22:02] <auronandace> scorinitron: you'll want xubuntu-desktop, that will drag in all that you need
[22:03] <cipherboy> When people have turkey leftovers.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> http://xkcd.com/149/
[22:03] <Gentoo64> i meant that lol
[22:03] <scorinitron> can I install xbuntu?
[22:03] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:03] <Deltatash> lol JetJaguar i hope it was 3D :D
[22:03] <ubuntunoob> if you want to completely replace gnome
[22:03] <scorinitron> with out depleting the rest of my recsourses?
[22:03] <scorinitron> ok
[22:03] <auronandace> scorinitron: sure, why not?
[22:04] <scorinitron> I'm getting the feeling that it's always going to be the same...
[22:04] <Deltatash> probably depends how you set up ubuntu in the first place scorinitron
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> and gnome takes a lot of ram compared to xfce
[22:04] <cipherboy> Anyone use fluxbox on here (speaking of low ram)?
[22:04] <scorinitron> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:04] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Not at that time.  lol
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> personally i use lxde but i like xfce's interface better
[22:04] <cipherboy> I used to until I upgraded ram.
[22:04] <scorinitron> ??
[22:04] <Gentoo64> cipherboy, openbox
[22:04] <scorinitron> did I get that right?
[22:04] <ubuntunoob> openbox is better dude i
[22:04] <auronandace> scorinitron: yes
[22:05] <Deltatash> lol thats not good JetJaguar :P
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> it is based on lxde
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> its lighter than fluxbox
[22:05] <Gentoo64> ubuntu_, you mean lxde is based on openbox :)
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> its what i use :D
[22:05] <Gentoo64> not hte other way round lol
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> i know thats what i meant
[22:05] <scorinitron> installing ^^
[22:05] <ubuntunoob> no prob
[22:05] <scorinitron> Woot Woot!! new GUI on the way
[22:06] <ubuntunoob> your very welcome
[22:06] <Gentoo64> openbox is the fastest thing ive used
[22:06] <scorinitron> Thanks Guys^^
[22:06] <Gentoo64> apart from pure console ofc, vut theyre all pretty similar in speed with the light wms
[22:06] <auronandace> Gentoo64: faster than twm?
[22:06] <cipherboy> Hey, any good tutorials on theming lightdm if I upgrade to 11.10?
[22:06] <Deltatash> which one you installing scorinitron
[22:06] <Gentoo64> auronandace, in terms of a "proper" one :)
[22:06] <auronandace> :)
[22:06] <klonkr> Has anyone got mopidy to work with arch and if so, how?
[22:06] <scorinitron> xfce
[22:06] <JetJaguar> #! is the shiznauts
[22:06] <Deltatash> ahh nice :)
[22:07] <Deltatash> haha
[22:07] <scorinitron> LMAO
[22:07] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron a good browser for xfce is midori
[22:07] <ubuntunoob> its what im using right now
[22:07] <scorinitron> what a minute...
[22:07] <Gentoo64> klonkr, this isnt #arch :s
[22:07] <Deltatash> im too scared to try a new gui xD
[22:07] <klonkr> opps, my bad heh
[22:07] <scorinitron> this isn't one of thoses console desktops is it?
[22:07] <Deltatash> nah
[22:07] <scorinitron> will I still have my apps?
[22:07] <scorinitron> xchat...?
[22:07] <scorinitron> etc
[22:08] <cipherboy> Yep.
[22:08] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, xfce is a proper one not console like
[22:08] <Deltatash> its just a different UI so notihng should be missing
[22:08] <cipherboy> It is just a new way of dressing it up.
[22:08] <ubuntunoob> webchat freenode
[22:08] <jrib> Gentoo64: tried a tiling window manager like xmonad or awesome yet?
[22:08] <Gentoo64> yeah
[22:08] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfce is gtk based, anything that works on gnome will work on xfce
[22:08] <Gentoo64> i hate tiling wms
[22:08] <Gentoo64> all of them
[22:08] <jrib> D:
[22:08] <ubuntunoob> if you dont remove ubuntu-desktop then you will still have all your gnome apps
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: why? the philosophy is that it works for you
[22:08] <Gentoo64> i either use openbox or tmux in a full res console
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: you can float and tile...
[22:09] <Gentoo64> yeah
[22:09] <ubuntunoob> but use openbox instead of xfwm4
[22:09] <scorinitron> so how would I install themes to xfce?
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> Gentoo64: the only thing its not great at is if you can only use one hand
[22:09] <cipherboy> I need to get active on the forums again...
[22:09] <scorinitron> I want a cool trom theme
[22:09] <Gentoo64> aeon-ltd, i suppose so lol
[22:09] <auronandace> !themes | scorinitron
[22:09] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron i shall look that up for you
[22:10] <scorinitron> YAY^^ Thanks bro/sis IDK
[22:10] <Deltatash> lol you and your tron theme :P
[22:10] <ubuntunoob> once its installed do sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[22:10] <scorinitron> well if it isn't tron I think I would want a matrix theme
[22:10] <ubuntunoob> then sudo apt-get install openbox
[22:10] <Deltatash> :D
[22:11] <JetJaguar> Matrix is geh
[22:11] <auronandace> scorinitron: you could also try xfce-look
[22:11] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, if you cant find one, just put a tron wallapper and a turqoise color scheme
[22:11] <Deltatash> Go for an Avatar theme! :D
[22:11] <ubuntunoob> i have only used linux for a couple months but i know my way around the enviroments
[22:11] <scorinitron> I the same
[22:12] <JetJaguar> Get a Motoko theme.  Yeah....
[22:12] <scorinitron> but I just learned I can change enviroments
[22:12] <scorinitron> lol
[22:13] <scorinitron> what's motoko? up yeah right I'll google it
[22:13] <scorinitron> OH THAT GIRL
[22:13] <scorinitron> GHOST IN THE SHELL AWESOMENESS
[22:13] <ubuntunoob> about that theme for xfce
[22:13] <CharminTheMoose> Hmm
[22:13] <Deltatash> this sounds interesting *opens google for Motoko*
[22:13] <ubuntunoob> i will look for a openbox theme for you
[22:13] <JetJaguar> motoko kusanagi
[22:13] <JokesOnYou77> I <3 Motoko
[22:13] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, xfce has an xp theme
[22:14] <Gentoo64> i know someone who uses it
[22:14] <JetJaguar> Yep
[22:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:14] <Deltatash> Gentoo64 how dare you swear in here!
[22:14] <Deltatash> lol :P
[22:14] <Gentoo64> xp owns linux
[22:14] <scorinitron> what a minute what's openbox? right right google
[22:14] <Deltatash> lol since when :P
[22:14] <ex0a> i installed xbmc-live and it wanted to replace gdm, but now when i boot i'm in low graphics mode - how can i change the graphics settings? i have no xorg.conf file or gdm atm
[22:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:14] <scorinitron> !openbox
[22:15] <scorinitron> haha it works ^^
[22:15] <CharminTheMoose> The LHS specifies that everything can be deleted in /var/cache, because "the application must always be able to recover from manula deletion of these files.". Does this hold true for ubuntu?
[22:15] <CharminTheMoose> or rather, apt?
[22:15] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron, there is a tron theme for the heavier fluxbox but not for openbox
[22:16] <scorinitron> fluxbox should I install that now?
[22:16] <ex0a> CharminTheMoose: i'm pretty sure there is no harm in deleting the cache directory
[22:16] <scorinitron> BTW I think it finished?
[22:16] <Deltatash> here is a decent looking tron theme for you http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Laptop?content=142616 but looks like it uses gnome
[22:16] <JetJaguar> Time for food.
[22:17] <ubuntunoob> use fluxbox instead of openbox then
[22:17] <scorinitron> lol food time it is PASTA TIME
[22:17] <Gentoo64> how is that a tron theme? its just a tron wallpaper lol
[22:17] <Deltatash> cya JetJaguar, and thanks for your help earlier :)
[22:17] <Deltatash> lol well look at his windows xD
[22:17] <Deltatash> they have liek a glow colour around the edge :P
[22:17] <Deltatash> close enough xD
[22:17] <microfil> hi
[22:17] <JetJaguar> Woot
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron: http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Tron?content=136749
[22:18] <vulgarbulgar> hello i need some help installing a Seiko SLP 200 driver
[22:18] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[22:19] <Gentoo64> sudo apt-get remove /
[22:19] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: why are you intent on removing xfwm4?
[22:19] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, thanks man I also found this http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Cyanized+-+Tron-like?content=146741
[22:19] <ubuntunoob> xfwm4 is heavier than fluxbox
[22:19] <scorinitron> I think I might beable to implement both
[22:19] <ubuntunoob> nope
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> Gentoo64: what does putting the / at the end of the command do?
[22:20] <scorinitron> so the first thing is to remvoe xfwm4?
[22:20] <microfil> ...i have a problem...i have just done the update...restart...and now my notebook have a low resolution and seem to be slow...some one can help me? (sorry for my bad english)
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> yes
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> its not possible
[22:20] <scorinitron> what is xfwm4?
[22:20] <Gentoo64> JokesOnYou77, nothing, was only joking
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> its xfce's window manager but its really heavy
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> ahh, k
[22:20] <ubuntunoob> 'so you want fluxbox
[22:20] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfwm4 is the window manager for xfce
[22:20] <scorinitron> so xfice is already installed?
[22:20] <scorinitron> xfce what do I reboot into it?
[22:21] <scorinitron> then come back?
[22:21] <scorinitron> to the chat?
[22:21] <lunitik> scorinitron, are you asking how to install a login manager?
[22:21] <scorinitron> nope
[22:21] <scorinitron> XD
[22:21] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, you should be able to choose it on login manager
[22:21] <ex0a> i installed xbmc-live and it wanted to replace gdm, but now when i boot i'm in low graphics mode - how can i change the graphics settings? i have no xorg.conf file or gdm atm
[22:22] <scorinitron> ok brb
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:22] <auronandace> scorinitron: log out, when you log back in change your session (at the login screen)
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> just reboot or log out
[22:22] <lunitik> ex0a, do you just want to switch back to gdm?
[22:22] <ubuntunoob> and choose xfce
[22:23] <ubuntunoob> oh and use lxdm instead of xfce's login manager
[22:23] <ubuntunoob> its better
[22:23] <Guest2109> hi all
[22:24] <auronandace> ubuntunoob: xfce login manager? xfce doesn't have it's own login manager
[22:24] <lunitik> ex0a, if you do, you can simply sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and choose it over xbmc... you will be able to choose xbmc in the session picker of the login screen
[22:24] <ubuntunoob> well remove gdm then
[22:24] <ubuntunoob> and use lxdm
[22:25] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, no need to get rid of it, just choose lxdm when you install it... debconf will keep everything sane, but otherwise you are removing meta-packages which help maintain the system
[22:25] <ubuntunoob> i know thats what i meant
[22:25] <mikey60> upgraded to 11.10 today from a usb stick. damn it broke the first time and took the whole thing down. had to reinstall to a different partition to get it to work
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, if you have questions related to the experience, that is fine... but just ranting negatively helps nothing at all
[22:26] <mikey60> wasnt ranting
[22:26] <mikey60> just a statement
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, otherwise, you can probably let loose in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <ubuntunoob> he was just commenting
[22:26] <mikey60> if you would like me to rant then say so
[22:26] <lunitik> mikey60, well, but what good does it do to voice it?
[22:26] <haakonn> hello, i just rebooted to the new .13 oneiric kernel, and now pulseaudio doesn't make a sound. the levels move in pavucontrol when i play something, but no sound. any idea?
[22:27] <mikey60> it says to people to be careful when doing these things
[22:27] <auronandace> haakonn: are your speakers switched on?
[22:27] <Gentoo64> mikey60, thats true. most people get broken systems after updates
[22:27] <Mitochondria> Weird
[22:27] <Mitochondria> !seen Mito
[22:27] <Gentoo64> a lot of people deny it though
[22:27] <Gentoo64> !give ubottu seen command
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> !idiot
[22:28] <haakonn> auronandace:  yes, sound plays fine in xbmc if i target the audio device directly, but not through pulse
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> !fluxbox
[22:28] <scorinitron> this is AMAZING
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> it is
[22:28] <Gentoo64> what is?
[22:28] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:28] <scorinitron> XFCE RULES
[22:28] <scorinitron> OMG
[22:28] <scorinitron> SO EASY
[22:28] <auronandace> !yay | scorinitron
[22:28] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <lunitik> Gentoo64, you used to be able to add factoids via !blah is foo - last I checked that now passed it off to #ubuntu-irc to approve because people abused it
[22:29] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, what are you on?
[22:29] <Mitochondria> Well anyways. I got a question. I removed a application from my computer. Yet i've still got the app in the menu. It's "Epiphany Web Browser"
[22:29] <auronandace> scorinitron: xfce is my favourite :)
[22:29] <scorchgeek> Gentoo64: I presume you mean scorinitron?
[22:29] <Gentoo64> lunitik, i can imagine
[22:29] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, yeah :)
[22:29] <scorinitron> ubottu congratulated me XD
[22:29] <Mitochondria> Actually nevermind.
[22:29] <scorinitron> lol
[22:29] <ubuntunoob> @scorinitron  welcome to what i like to call the mouse side of   linux :d
[22:29] <scorchgeek> heh, you pinged me in another channel and I was like "um, have I been typing responses in the wrong channel or something?"
[22:29] <lunitik> Mitochondria, in terminal either 'which epiphany' or 'locate epiphany'... if you have changed the menu entry though, it will remain until you remove it manually (via alacarte)
[22:30] <Gentoo64> scorchgeek, lol. sorry man
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> i love xfce too
[22:30] <scorchgeek> it's fine :D
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> i use both pretty much :D
[22:30] <ubuntunoob> lxde and xfce
[22:30] <scorinitron> I actually feel like getting rid of all of the other GUis I have installed except xfce
[22:30] <scorinitron> and It
[22:30] <scorinitron> it's only been 3 minutes of use
[22:31] <ubuntunoob> then do the kill: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <scorinitron> everything is layed out the way I wanted it...and I didn't config anything
[22:31] <vulgarbulgar> i am trying to install drivers for a seiko SLP 200 label printer and it will not let me compile the make file
[22:31] <ubuntunoob> = what i feel like when i use xfce
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, just install xubuntu the distro itself, from scratch then
[22:31] <scorinitron> *KILL* KILL MUST KILL MUWHAHAHA
[22:31] <scorinitron> XD
[22:31] <scorinitron> lol
[22:31] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, xubuntu has a really nice default theme too
[22:32] <scorinitron> brb gotta eat my pasta ^^
[22:32] <scorinitron> afk
[22:32] <ubuntunoob> k :D
[22:32] <auronandace> Gentoo64: i still prefer the albatross theme more
[22:32] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, that actually wouldn't work because it is just a meta-package... debfoster or deborphan would make it easy to clean up after though
[22:32] <Gentoo64> auronandace, i dont like xfce myself. but the greybird theme is the nicest xfce theme i personally have seen
[22:33] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, (also wouldn't work because it is unlikely you installed ubuntu-desktop by hand... came during the install for most)
[22:33] <Deltatash> cya guys gotta log, thanks for the help earlier
[22:33] <ubuntunoob> it know that its just it removes gnome stuff like gnome apps
[22:33] <daviddoria> is the "unsupported updates" old stuff or bleeding edge stuff?
[22:34] <Gentoo64> daviddoria, im guessing neither
[22:34] <Gentoo64> just "unsupported"
[22:34] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, that's what I'm saying, it wouldn't actually do that because nothing was installed as a dep of it for most people...
[22:34] <Gentoo64> daviddoria, im probably wrong again
[22:34] <ubuntunoob> thats what i did on mine and it worked :P
[22:34] <ubuntunoob> i understand what u mean but
[22:34] <vulgarbulgar> can anyone help with this printing problem?
[22:34] <ex0a> lunitik: i'm reinstalling gdm now (replaces xbmc-live) and going to see if i can set xbmc to be the window manager instead of gnome
[22:34] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, even then, apt/dpkg doesn't care much about the deps of a meta-package once you remove it... lesson learned the hard way, and why I used to love debfoster
[22:35] <daviddoria> how do you run a system update through the software center?
[22:35] <lunitik> ex0a, you can simply select XBMC as the session to log into... also, you didn't really have to reinstall, just 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' would have allowed to set it as default again
[22:36] <ex0a> lunitik: when i installed "xbmc-live" it removed gdm
[22:36] <lunitik> ex0a, that is sort of strange, I am not sure why it would even need to conflict gdm
[22:37] <ex0a> i don't know either
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> found this
[22:37] <ex0a> it's not the same package as xbmc
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu alacarte appmenu-gtk at-spi bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer bogofilter bogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common capplets-data checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-main compizconfig-backend-gconf compu
[22:37] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:37] <Gentoo64> nice wall of text
[22:37] <Gentoo64> or is my client just small
[22:37] <jerenept> Why would you remove Banshee? It's awesome!
[22:37] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:37] <ubuntunoob> it just removes gnome dependencies
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> and score said he didnt want gnome
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> soz
[22:38] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, no seriously, apt-cache show debfoster
[22:38] <Gentoo64> thats why i said, might as well just install xubuntu
[22:38] <daviddoria> I see where to specify which updates you want, but how do you run the updates?
[22:38] <Gentoo64> rather than fixing up and cleaning normal ubuntu
[22:38] <ubuntunoob> whats wrong with doing it this way?????
[22:38] <Gentoo64> because if you only want xfce, you might as well install Xubuntu
[22:39] <Gentoo64> then you dont have to clean up gnome crap left over
[22:39] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, nothing, just, why do something by hand which can be automated?
[22:39] <ubuntunoob> because you dont have to reinstall this way :P
[22:40] <Gentoo64> i suppose its preference. some people dont mind
[22:40] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[22:40] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, it is really why Debian and thus Ubuntu is so awesome... hackers being lazy and hacking things together to allow their laziness
[22:40]  * mcphail thinks most people would have enough hard disk space not to notice surplus libraries
[22:41] <Gentoo64> mcphail, its not that, its unneeded mess. which some pelpe dont care about
[22:42] <mcphail> Gentoo64: it's only space, but each to their own
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> if ubuntu is so awesome why does it run like crap on my powerpc eMAc
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> probably an ocd thing lol
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> and debian works great
[22:42] <ubuntunoob> ?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, unity?
[22:42] <lunitik> mcphail, actually, file system performance can suffer if there is too much bloat... although some file systems actually perform better when they are jam packed... it really depends I guess
[22:42] <Gentoo64> lunitik, dont you mean, when theyre not full?
[22:43] <Gentoo64> well for ssds anyway
[22:43] <Gentoo64> dno about hdds
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> i tried lubuntu and lxde debian and lxde debian is much better
[22:43] <mcphail> lunitik: erm - not really
[22:43] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, in what way?
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> and some of the packages are missing in powerpc ubuntu
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> and debian has all the new packages
[22:43] <ubuntunoob> :P
[22:44] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, lubuntu then... and thus why Ubuntu is awesome: choice and freedom
[22:44] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, i think ubuntu is like mid range on the packages date
[22:44] <Gentoo64> not stable but not bleeding edge
[22:44] <mcphail> lunitik: I'd like to see real-world benchmarks on that for ext3,4 and btrfs if you have them
[22:44] <ubuntunoob> well i like my stuff to be as new as possible :P
[22:44] <Gentoo64> well dno how new debians packages are
[22:44] <ubuntunoob> so thats why i switched my powerpc emac to debian :P
[22:45] <Gentoo64> all i know is that the stable debian is ancient
[22:45] <Gentoo64> dont know about testing
[22:45] <ubuntunoob> i use squeeze and the wheezy repo
[22:45] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, umm, so you use wheezy
[22:45] <Gentoo64> newer isnt always better anyway
[22:46] <kain88> hi, does anyone know how to activate graphic acceleration for a ATI 5770 on 11.10?
[22:46] <ubuntunoob> well i cant even get lightspark on powerpc ubuntu and i can on debian
[22:46] <Gentoo64> kain88, try jockey-gtk
[22:46] <lunitik> ubuntunoob, precise is merging from wheezy atm, there should be little difference in package versions there, and where there is difference, Ubuntu will be more recent in every case
[22:46] <Gentoo64> kain88, or in system settings i think its there, additional drivers
[22:47] <scorinitron> back guys
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> so unless the powerpc port gets improved (i.e less laggy, better package support) im staying on debian
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> hey dude
[22:47] <scorinitron> hey!!
[22:47] <Gentoo64> ubuntu_, debian has the biggest support for processors
[22:47] <Gentoo64> out of all distros afaik
[22:47] <scorinitron> awesome one ...*boes as a sign of respect*
[22:47] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, i mean
[22:47] <scorinitron> bows*
[22:47] <ubuntunoob> i found a command for removing gnome
[22:48] <scorinitron> really?
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:48] <vulgarbulgar> AFTER INSTALLING A PRINTER DRIVER I RECEIVE AN ERROR REPORT STATING THAT THERE IS A MISSING FILTER IN CUPS, can someone help with this?
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> and are u on oneiric or natty>
[22:48] <kain88> jockey-gtk doesn't work because it will only suggest the fglrx-driver which does not work with the install X
[22:48] <scorinitron> sweet Instant Annihilation
[22:48] <soreau> ! caps | vulgarbulgar
[22:48] <Gentoo64> kain88, no idea then
[22:48] <scorinitron> Oneric
[22:48] <soreau> ! cups | vulgarbulgar
[22:48] <ubuntunoob> k
[22:48] <scorinitron> oneiric
[22:48] <Gentoo64> kain88, thats the only proper way to install them
[22:49] <Gentoo64> kain88, how does it not work?
[22:49] <kain88> i don't have 3d support on my newly installed 11.10
[22:49] <scorinitron> jezz I'll tell you, You guys are alot friendlier than the guys at #backtrack-linux
[22:49] <pythonirc101> I followed the instructions on this page: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/ -- but for some reason on my 11.04, startx doesnt work, any ideas whats wrong?
[22:50] <mcphail> kain88: is it a very new card?
[22:50] <kain88> and with the fglrx driver the X just shows nothing
[22:50] <Gentoo64> sounds about right
[22:50] <kain88> the card is a year old and i worked perfectly with debian
[22:50] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron copy and paste this command:sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu apg appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt at-spi2-core bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-main-default compizcon
[22:50] <__G0d__> Hi guys
[22:50] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, what if he wants banshee? lol
[22:50] <__G0d__> Bye Guys
[22:51] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, you sure this is safe?
[22:51] <ubuntunoob> yes
[22:51] <scorinitron> I mean that's a lot of stuff dood
[22:51] <scorinitron> XD
[22:51] <Gentoo64> what if he wants brasero?
[22:51] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: all it is uninstalling crap
[22:51] <Mitochondria> Then tell him Banshee sucks
[22:51] <scorinitron> I know
[22:51] <scorinitron> XD
[22:51] <scorinitron> ok here I go
[22:51] <ubuntunoob> i have done on mine with perfect safety
[22:52] <scorinitron> unable to locate package compizo
[22:52] <CharminTheMoose> I've been wondering, if I removed Gnome on my system now, would it get pulled back in if I tried upgrading to 11.10?
[22:52] <scorinitron> I guess I just remove it from the commad
[22:52] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: yup
[22:52] <ubuntunoob> gentoo64 he wont because xfburn is lighter
[22:52] <mcphail> kain88: i use nvidia myself, but the most up-to-date drivers are usually found in the x-swat ppa. Maybe that would help?
[22:53] <scorinitron> got it!
[22:53] <scorinitron> 183mb freed
[22:53] <ubuntunoob> your welcome :D
[22:53] <kain88> the driver I need is in debian testing so it should also be availabe in 11.10
[22:53] <Gentoo64> does the xfce package have all the xfce apps when you install it?
[22:53] <kain88> there should be a way to enable it
[22:53] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: btw what are you trying to achieve?
[22:53] <ubuntunoob> pretty sure yeah
[22:53] <scorinitron> arigato
[22:53] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[22:53] <scorinitron> <<not Japanese
[22:54] <scorinitron> um aeon-ltd  I was originally trying to switch over to xfce just to check it out
[22:54] <chrisgeorge> For some reason, nginx is not starting on boot in 11.10, is there a way to force this?
[22:54] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[22:54] <scorinitron> then I got hooked with in 5 minutes of looking at it
[22:54] <|Long|> hi i got stuck at nx server stuff how can i boot back to GUI plz help?
[22:54] <scorinitron> so I'm removing everything that is not xfce on my pc XD
[22:54] <scorinitron> lol
[22:55] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: startx or 'nameof whatever login/desktop manager you use'
[22:55] <jerenept> don't do that
[22:55] <ubuntunoob> welcome to the mouse hole :D ^^  #xfcerox
[22:55] <Gentoo64> scorinitron, you do know xfce uses gtk and gnome stuff?
[22:55] <soreau> ! pm | vulgarbulgar
[22:55] <jerenept> you might need things like xserver
[22:55] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, i tried that cmd but nothing return
[22:56] <scorinitron> crap I might have did something wrong then
[22:56] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: try 'gdm' 'lightdm' 'slim'
[22:56] <CharminTheMoose> gtk is quite lightweight I find though
[22:56] <scorinitron> 1gtk
[22:56] <scorinitron> !gtk
[22:56] <scorinitron> ok
[22:57] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, that command didn't remove any necessary real gtk stuff
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> dont forget dude
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[22:57] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: any luck?
[22:57] <ubuntunoob> just gnome dependencies
[22:57]  * mcphail notices Gentoo64's previous IPv6 address with interest
[22:58] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, no good
[22:58] <|Long|> nothing return still in dos prompt
[22:58] <kain88> http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: DOS?
[22:59] <|Long|> on black screen
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: you mean terminal/virtual terminal?
[22:59] <|Long|> yes
[22:59] <RidDrib> what I can do with ubuntu ?
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> RidDrib: anything
[22:59] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, oh so now that I got it installed what do I do to get the Tron theme
[22:59] <scorinitron> and should I remove xfwm4?
[22:59] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: what gui did you have before?
[23:00] <scorinitron> if it's a windows manager wouldn
[23:00] <|Long|> kunbutu screen
[23:00] <scorinitron> wouldn't it be a bad thing to remove
[23:00] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: try 'kdm'
[23:00] <Daghdha> doesn't ubuntu use metrics for it's network connections?
[23:00] <ubuntunoob> score: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> but before you do that
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get remove xfwm4
[23:01] <Daghdha> It's no where in the applet i can find. Just in the ifconfig outpt
[23:01] <scorinitron> ok
[23:01] <ubuntunoob> in terminal
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: success?
[23:01] <|Long|> nothing return
[23:01] <scorinitron> I know :) it would be sad if after 8 months I didn't know how to use the terminal lol
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: how did you get into this?
[23:02] <mcored> hi guys can i disable the touchpad completely?
[23:02] <ubuntunoob> okay good :D
[23:02] <scorinitron> wait a minute I think it remved the xubuntu desktop
[23:02] <scorinitron> at least that
[23:02] <scorinitron> is what it says
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: that's a metapackage ie not a real package
[23:02] <Gentoo64> mcphail: lol
[23:02] <|Long|> well, as first all good to go i set ssh and remote desktop, then i install glftpd and after reboot it stuck here
[23:02] <scorinitron> !metapackage
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> scorinitron: its more of a list of packages as a set
[23:02] <pythonirc101> when i autologin into my ubuntu box, I see a README.txt that says -- ecryptfs-mount-private...? how to fix this?
[23:02] <scorinitron> oh
[23:03] <scorinitron> well I just learned the whole "!" is better than google lol
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: type 'top' or 'htop' is X already running?
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> cxd
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> xd
[23:03] <ubuntunoob> !xubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <|Long|> iam sit in front console now
[23:03] <scorinitron> Their's something I need to know..
[23:04]  * Daghdha installs ifmetric
[23:04] <scorinitron> Is their a way I can set shortcuts
[23:04] <ubuntunoob> you can safely remove it but its reccommend the reinstall when upgrade
[23:04] <scorinitron> like ctrl +a= select all
[23:04] <scorinitron> and ctrl v = past
[23:04] <scorinitron> paste
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: but is X runnning?
[23:04] <scorinitron> cause I keep doing it outta habit and nothing happens lol
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: in the xfce settings menu somewhere
[23:05] <scorinitron> same for ctrl c
[23:05] <ubuntunoob> to upgrade the kernel, add the kernel ppa
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: ctrl c etc should work
[23:05] <Gentoo64> theyre normal shortcuts
[23:05] <scorinitron> omg
[23:05] <scorinitron> their working?
[23:05] <Gentoo64> yeah
[23:05] <scorinitron> WTH
[23:05] <|Long|> yes ssh is running
[23:05] <Gentoo64> :s
[23:05] <scorinitron> lol
[23:05] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: they always work
[23:05] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:05] <scorinitron> it just started working
[23:05] <scorinitron> seriously
[23:05] <scorinitron> XD
[23:05] <FloodBot1> scorinitron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <scorinitron> lol
[23:06] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: did you know you can middle click to paste?
[23:06] <ubuntunoob> ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:06] <mcored> is there a good screenshot application for ubuntu, i am missing zscreen where i can use a keyboard short to take a screenshot of the active window, or a window and automatically upload it to a host like imageshack and give me a URL in the clipboard all in one go...
[23:06] <scorinitron> ...
[23:06] <scorinitron> flood bot muted me
[23:06] <Gentoo64> yeah
[23:06] <ubuntunoob> add that to your sources
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:07] <scorinitron> me?
[23:07] <mcored> i have tried Shutter and JShot so far
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> yeah
[23:07] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, any other throught?
[23:07] <scorinitron> oh what were you saying lol
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> go to Software sources and add it
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> or use terminal
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: is X running?
[23:07] <scorinitron> that txt doc?
[23:07] <|Long|> yes ssh is running
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: no is X running
[23:07] <scorinitron> what's the command
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: wait did you run 'ssh -x?
[23:07] <ubuntunoob> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> sudo apt-get update after you do that
[23:08] <pirateao> toy como loco, primera vez con ubuntu y primera vez con xchat
[23:08] <|Long|> no, iam sitting in front of console now aeon-ltd
[23:08] <pirateao> no entiendo nada
[23:08] <Gentoo64> !language | pirateao
[23:08] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, can I pm u
[23:08] <pirateao> esto es un canal?
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: 2 ideas left, cycle through ctrl-alt-fkeys 1through 11
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> yeah sure
[23:08] <ubuntunoob> id actually prefer that
[23:08] <pirateao> m
[23:09] <Daghdha> ywhat is considdered 'the interface' ? I run ifmetric to change metric on a interface but using eth1 doesn't work. What's the proper name i should use there?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: "the interface" ?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> normally eth0
[23:09] <aeon-ltd> Daghdha: eth0 ?
[23:09] <Daghdha> i only have eth1 and eth2
[23:09] <scorinitron> !kernal
[23:09] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: what one do you use?
[23:09] <Gentoo64> that one
[23:09] <ubuntunoob> !kernel
[23:09] <Daghdha> it doesn't complain when i say eth1, bit the metric doesn't change either
[23:09] <Daghdha> I use both
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> you dont have to compile
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> you can use debs
[23:10] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, did I do the pm right?
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: how do you get to the GUI normally?
[23:10] <ubuntunoob> yeah i see it
[23:10] <Gentoo64>  
[23:10] <scorinitron> just making sure
[23:10] <Daghdha> Gentoo64: I use 1 for PC-PC connection and one for teh internets.
[23:10] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:10] <Daghdha> The pc-pc one seems to have priority now causing all outbound connections to fail :(
[23:10] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, holy shit ctrl+alt+f1 key works :))))))))))
[23:11] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: not sure about that
[23:11] <|Long|> aeon-ltd, thanks alot
[23:12] <Daghdha> kinda pity you can't change metric in GUI
[23:13] <kain88> \part
[23:13] <Gentoo64> \bye
[23:15] <Daghdha> heh ifconfig can't
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> |Long|: welcome
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> *you're
[23:15] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: afaik you need ifmetric
[23:16] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: but i personally have never had to play with it i use auto
[23:16] <Daghdha> i have that Gentoo64
[23:16] <Daghdha> It doesn't change the metrics
[23:16] <Daghdha> It is AUTO.
[23:16] <Gentoo64> yeah i dno why
[23:16] <Gentoo64> youll have to google it
[23:16] <Gentoo64> or try another channel if no one else can help
[23:17] <Gentoo64> did you restart net after you applied it (sorry if sounds silly)
[23:17] <Daghdha> no..
[23:17] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:17] <Gentoo64> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:17] <Gentoo64> might be some other command
[23:17] <Daghdha> how does that relate to using 'service'? I always wonder
[23:18] <Gentoo64> service networking restart
[23:18] <Gentoo64> i think
[23:18] <Gentoo64> i think service just shortcut to /etc/init.d
[23:18] <Daghdha> Aw
[23:19] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: well anyway, retarting network wouldbe the first thing i try
[23:19] <Gentoo64> or restart the hwole comp
[23:19] <Gentoo64> thats what i do because im lazy
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> use service, not /etc/init.d
[23:19] <pragmaticenigma> service is not an alias... it's a safer alternative to using /etc/init.d
[23:19] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:19] <Gentoo64> sorry
[23:20] <Gentoo64> safer how?
[23:20] <Daghdha> sigh
[23:20] <Daghdha> no change
[23:20] <pragmaticenigma> part of it does nice shutdowns of services... so it doesn't accidentally shut down while the service is doing criticle tasks
[23:20] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: ah ok
[23:20] <sayed> hello every one
[23:21] <pragmaticenigma> like service apache2 stop would make sure that Apache doesn't shutdown in the middle of serving a request to a client
[23:21] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: thanks for info
[23:21] <Gentoo64> didnt know was any different
[23:21] <Gentoo64> i just assumed it was an alias to be more noob friendly
[23:21] <Stockholm_Angel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/747660/ looks like i broke ubuntu
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> i assume that running services in this way consumes slightly more ram? (like < 2mb?)
[23:22] <kool_tool> I have a 64 bit AMD pc, running 11.10.  The 1.18.24.1-linux-2.6 intel.dep package will not install on my pc.  Are there any alternatives to using lightscribe ?
[23:22] <Daghdha> restart: unknown instance
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  try start
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> in the end, Gentoo64, it really is just making the same system calls... but far less chance of something going very wrong
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> i just did it minutes ago
[23:23] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: yesh just some extra commands
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> I'm curious if anyone has had any issues with Ubuntu 11.10 and Hyper-threaded processors?  Specifically Intel Pentium 4 with Hyper-threading
[23:23] <Daghdha> stop also gives unknown instance. start gives: networking stop/waiting
[23:23] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: never owned one myself. what issues anyway?
[23:24] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: is it possible to reboot the comp? would be easier
[23:24] <aeon-ltd> pragmaticenigma: ran for a year (8.04-8.10) no problems
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> It will not boot, hangs on kernal-helper-thread loading
[23:24] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: weird. i take it it works with ht disabled in bios
[23:24] <Daghdha> i will, after i manually set op interfaces again because this auto stuff doesn't work right for some reason
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> I've had no issues with this processor until 11.10 came out... gave me a near heart attack when my machine wouldn't come up
[23:25] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: you might have to do some googling on it
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: must be some kernel option then
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: but im sure your not the onyl one running a ht cpu :s
[23:25] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... I was able to turn of HT in bios, but wondering if anyone knew of a solution... the machine runs so much better with it on
[23:25] <d3f4c3d> Hi, how can i pull fresh list. file ?
[23:25] <pragmaticenigma> I know that the Intel Core i series have HT in them
[23:25] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: not all
[23:26] <d3f4c3d> .list file that it
[23:26] <Gentoo64> my i5 750 dont
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> so strange that I would have the issue
[23:26] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: have you googled it? what kernel is 11.10 on?
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> 11.10 is on Kernel 3.0.0-13-generic
[23:27] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: HT seems to be working fine on atom
[23:28] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: does the 11.10 livecd work?
[23:28] <d3f4c3d> where should i look for Karmic fresh sources.list file ?? thanks
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> No... I thought it did at first, but I don't remember if I tested it out on this machine or one of my other non-HT machines
[23:30] <scorinitron> is their a good IRC I can run in the terminal
[23:30] <scorinitron> ?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> pragmaticenigma: well i certainly cant help :(
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: irssi
[23:30] <mcphail> scorinitron: irssi
[23:30] <scorinitron> just to be cool?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: or weechat
[23:30] <scorinitron> XD
[23:30] <ubuntunoob> hey sorry
[23:30] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: irssi is good as well
[23:30] <ubuntunoob> i accendtly disconnect
[23:30] <Gentoo64> not just cool
[23:30] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: but youll need to spend a few hours setting it up the way you want
[23:31] <Gentoo64> not sure what weechat configs like
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> scorinitron
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> I'm sure as more people install 11.10 it may appear on more bug reports... I certainly don't have the skill to generate the necessary testing for issuing a bug report
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> pm me again
[23:31] <ubuntunoob> i mis clicked
[23:32] <Pocomoke> How can I burn labels  onto a  DVD using Ubuntu 11.10 (64 bit)?
[23:32] <ubuntunoob> an accidently disconnected
[23:32] <scorinitron> yay he's alive
[23:32] <scorinitron> lol
[23:32] <Daghdha> Ok, i have manually enetered the values into the /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:32] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob do you run a terminal IRC?
[23:32] <scorinitron> wine and what ever program u use in windows
[23:32] <Daghdha> I am now rebooting as per Gentoo64 suggestion (wich for me is a lot of work :) and waiting for the result :D
[23:32] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: everyone uses irssi or weechat, mostly irssi
[23:32] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: are you looking for lightscribe?
[23:32] <scorinitron> oh cool
[23:33] <mcphail> scorinitron: irssi + screen is the finest combination
[23:33] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: yea sorry, thought itd be easier than messing around trying to get the service to restart if it wasnt working
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> how do i pm someone ???
[23:33] <Gentoo64> mcphail: irssi + tmux is even better
[23:33] <Gentoo64> mcphail: lol
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> im on webchat freenode
[23:33] <scorinitron> right click their name
[23:33] <Gentoo64> jk
[23:34] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob: if you spend time on irc why not get a proper client?
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntunoob: it depends on your client... all support questions and answers should really be done in the mainroom to allow others to benefit from the solutions you find
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> ok
[23:34] <Pocomoke> I can't install lightscribe, it is for  a 32bit pc
[23:34] <mcphail> Gentoo64: religious debate has no place in this channel. Do not disrespect screen.
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> you can run 32 bit software on a 64 bit machine
[23:34] <Gentoo64> mcphail: you know i was joking :p
[23:34] <Daghdha> hmm
[23:34] <mcphail> :)
[23:35] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: still no luck?
[23:35] <Daghdha> It's not working at all now can't VNC into it :/
[23:35] <Gentoo64> well
[23:35] <Gentoo64> if i was you
[23:35] <Gentoo64> id revert those changes and do some googling
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> installing weechat now :D
[23:35] <Gentoo64> does weechat even support themes?
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: you can run 32 bit software on a 64 bit machine
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> Pocomoke: There are forumns on various websites on how to get lightscribe tools to run in a 32 bit system
[23:36] <fayimora> hey guys i want to setup a simple web server on my linux machine for personal use….how do i go about it?
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Read up on installing Apache for Ubuntu
[23:37] <jerenept> sudo tasksel
[23:37] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: any links?
[23:37] <Pocomoke> I'll try again, but it said I had the wrong architechure '1386'
[23:38] <Daghdha> Gentoo64: Just my NAS. No man overbboard, hooked up keyboard to it and gonna try some more stuff.
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: ok. sorry i cant help more. got no experience with it
[23:38] <pythonirc101> anyone has done an autologin in 11.04 here? I can autologin, but my home directory seems to be encrypted at autologin
[23:38] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Google is a good place to start.  Search for "Ubuntu Apache Setup Guide"
[23:38] <Daghdha> no worries. it'll get figured out sooner or later :P google-by-error style
[23:39] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: thats why on the installer afaik it forces a login pass with encrypted home
[23:39] <Gentoo64> because you need the pass to decrypt it
[23:39] <pythonirc101> Gentoo64: how can i autologin on my ubuntu box?
[23:40] <Gentoo64> idk
[23:40] <mcphail> fayimora: other webservers are available as well but it is worth taking a couple of hours to learn basic apache2 setup
[23:40] <pythonirc101> I tried this: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/
[23:40] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: why would you want to, with encrypted /home?
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> pythonirc101: The encrypted home directory feature requires you to login with a password each time.  It will not work with the autologin feature
[23:40] <Gentoo64> pythonirc101: your sort of defeating the point of encryption there
[23:40] <pythonirc101> pragmaticenigma: how do i get rid of the encrypted home?
[23:40] <fayimora> mcphail: where can i ge a tut on that?
[23:40] <Joey_> hi guys
[23:40] <Joey_> how can i open a program ubuntu?
[23:41] <Joey_> can anyone help me?
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> pythonirc101: Setup a new user without the encrypted home directory feature... copy all of your files to the new user account and then delete the old account
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Joey_: click the icon
[23:41] <Joey_> but im trying to install teamviewer
[23:41] <Joey_> how can i install teamviewer
[23:41] <JokesOnYou77> Joey_: What program do you need?
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Joey_: try sudo apt-get install teamviewer
[23:41] <Joey_> TeamViewer
[23:41] <Joey_> ok
[23:41] <Gentoo64> might not be there isk
[23:41] <Gentoo64> idk
[23:41] <mcphail> fayimora: there are _thousands_ on teh interweb. Apache2 has been around on Ubuntu and Debian for years. Have a browse through debian-administration.org for example
[23:41] <iceroot> pythonirc101: auto-login for the server-edition?
[23:42] <Joey_> E: UNable to locate package teamviewer
[23:42] <Joey_> ????
[23:42] <Joey_> huh
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:42] <capcook> i don't think teamviewer is in the official repo
[23:42] <fayimora> mcphail: do i use ubuntu or debian?
[23:42] <Gentoo64> Joey_: that means its either not there, or the wrong name
[23:42] <iceroot> Joey_: download teamviewer from the website, then just start it by clicking on teamviewer.exe  also make sure wine is installed
[23:42] <Gentoo64> !teamviewer
[23:42] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[23:42] <Joey_> wine?
[23:42] <JokesOnYou77> Joey_: Do you actually need TeamViewer specifically or just a remote access viewer?
[23:42] <Joey_> what's wine?
[23:42] <capcook> an emulator for win
[23:42] <mcphail> fayimora: the apache2 setup is almost identical
[23:42] <iceroot> !wine | Joey_
[23:43] <capcook> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:43] <iceroot> capcook: wine is not an emulator :)
[23:43] <capcook> ahahah
[23:43] <capcook> :D
[23:43] <Joey_> ok
[23:43] <iceroot> Joey_: there is only a windows-version of teamviewer, so you need wine
[23:43] <Joey_> it's installing
[23:43]  * pragmaticenigma will never understand why someone finds it easier to load up IRC for something that can be googled
[23:43] <Joey_> how do i use wine?
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Joey_: sorry i didnt know teamviewer was windows only. didnt even know what it is :D
[23:43] <iceroot> Joey_: just click the teamviewer.exe after wine is installed
[23:43] <Joey_> there is teamviewer for linux aswell.
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Joey_: once you install wine you can just double click .exe (windows progs)
[23:43] <mcphail> fayimora: traditionally people have run debian on servers and ubuntu on the desktop. So there is more web-literature on debian+apache.
[23:43] <Joey_> and alright.
[23:44] <JokesOnYou77> Joey_: before you go installing this stuff, what is it you actually need?
[23:44] <iceroot> Joey_: no there is no teamviewer for linux
[23:44] <JokesOnYou77> Ubuntu comes standard with a vnc viewer and server
[23:44] <Joey_> ok, i'll just use wine.
[23:44] <iceroot> Joey_: its just an exe-file inside that at.gz
[23:44] <iceroot> tar.gz
[23:44]  * Mitochondria releases poisonous gas into the room
[23:44] <mcphail> fayimora: don't be put off. It's really simple but you'll need to know where the config files live and the syntax
[23:44] <iceroot> Mitochondria: no need that here
[23:45] <capcook> well you have to download the installer of teamviewer
[23:45] <JokesOnYou77> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-teamviewer-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[23:45] <capcook> and double click the icon
[23:45] <Joey_> ok
[23:45] <fayimora> mcphail: i have ubuntu installed.. so i guess i would just go on with it
[23:45] <JokesOnYou77> ^instructions for TeamViewer install in ubuntu
[23:45] <Joey_> how do i open a folder if i downloaded something?
[23:45] <Joey_> can i get the commands for ubuntu?
[23:46] <mcphail> fayimora: yes indeed
[23:46] <Joey_> i just got the system76, and i have no clue how to use it.
[23:46] <capcook> Joey_: ??
[23:46] <fayimora> mcphail: a friend was saying i would need to get and ip and blah blah blah…how do o know the ip of my computer from an ubuntu machine? Also, how do i kill the guy so i use less memory
[23:46] <Joey_> but it's usefull
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: The "linux" version is actually a pre-wrapped wine installation of Team Viewer
[23:46] <Joey_> how can i install lampp?
[23:46] <mcphail> fayimora: your IP address is set by your internet service provider. Are you on a static or dynamic IP?
[23:47] <c_smith> Joey_: , if you downloaded something, just browse the folder in Nautilus/Dolphin/whatever File Manager you use.
[23:47] <iceroot> Joey_: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[23:47] <Hilikus> is there any way to keep processes separated in the unity bar? i have two icons, one to launch the local terminal and another to lauch a remote terminal, but once opened, both of them get grouped together. is there a way to fix this?
[23:47] <capcook> Joey_: http://www.lullabot.com/videos/install-local-web-server-ubuntu
[23:47] <JokesOnYou77> pragmaticenigma: Ahh, I had no idea, I always just use the default remote viewer
[23:47] <fayimora> mcphail: hmm lemme just check the difference between those 2 first
[23:47] <jrib> !lamp | Joey_
[23:48] <capcook> Joey_: the video is for ubuntu 7.something something has changed
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: yeah... I do as well... seems more and more developers are taking the easy way out and make pre-packed wine installations... Navicat does the same thing with it's SQL GUIs
[23:48] <mcphail> fayimora: if you don't know, you're probably on a dynamic serice
[23:48] <iceroot> "!lamp" should just show "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server" the guide in the wiki with tasksel is just confusing...
[23:48] <Joey_> "E: Unable to lock the administartor directory (/var/lib/dpkg/). os there another process using it?
[23:48] <Joey_> ??????????/
[23:49] <fayimora> mcphail: hope its dynamic but i want a static one :( how o i ge tone?
[23:49] <Joey_> anyone?
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: you used sudo?
[23:49] <Joey_> yes
[23:49] <pragmaticenigma> Joey_: You have another program trying to do a system update or install software
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: is another process e.g. like software-center running?
[23:49] <JokesOnYou77> pragmaticenigma: As great as wine is, I've never found that it really works well for the programs I want.  I usually just run a VM if I absolutely need a Windows app
[23:49] <Joey_> yeah
[23:49] <Joey_> im installing wine
[23:49] <mcphail> fayimora: you need to speak to your ISP. Dynamic addresses are not too bad, though
[23:49] <iceroot> Joey_: then wait until its finished
[23:49] <Joey_> ok
[23:49] <Joey_> :)
[23:49] <Joey_> i love linux
[23:49] <Joey_> are you all on linux?
[23:50] <capcook> me yes
[23:50] <fayimora> mcphail: lol ok would hang around with it then..dnt think i can talk to my isp
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> JokesOnYou77: I find it works well for simple apps... I use it for both Navicat (since I can't find a comparable MySQL manager) and for Quicken
[23:50] <mcphail> fayimora: if you pay them money for the connection they should talk to you...
[23:50]  * SolarisBoy loving up linux
[23:51] <fayimora> mcphail: am sure i don't need a guy on the linux machine ryt? I mean i could ssh into it
[23:51] <c_smith> Joey_: if you ask a Linux channel if they're using Linux, the answer from most of the people will say they are.
[23:51] <codex> lol
[23:51] <Joey_> oh ok
[23:51] <Joey_> lol
[23:51] <JokesOnYou77> fayimora: to find your current external IP visit: http://www.whatsmyip.org/  And to get get around the dynamic IP problem, get a free account at Dyndns and configure your router so that it will update dyndns when your IP changes
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: unless your a business.. most ISPs will not give you a static IP address... you will need to learn how to use a service like DynDNS or No-IP.com to allow you to update your sites url to point to the right address each time your ISP updates your IP address
[23:51] <fayimora> mcphail: its a uni accommodation connection
[23:51] <c_smith> Joey_: Ubuntu is Linux, just thought I'd say those points.
[23:51] <SolarisBoy> Ubuntu is based on a linux kernel yeps
[23:51] <mcphail> fayimora: can you ssh into your machine from outside the campus?
[23:52] <iceroot> why can i remove the current running kernel with apt-get and its still running? everything already in ram?
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> its in memory
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> reboot applies it
[23:52] <erkan^> How make I tomboy for startup when my pc start
[23:52] <erkan^> ?
[23:52] <c_smith> Joey_: a better question for an Ubuntu channel that is related is what Linux Distro are they using.
[23:52] <Gentoo64> iceroot: because its just the /usr/src/files no?
[23:52] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: oh ok cool…would look at dydns now.. but am sure i need a router for that ryt?
[23:52] <Joey_> ok
[23:52] <Gentoo64> iceroot: or is it gone from /boot?
[23:52] <iceroot> Gentoo64: /boot/foobar
[23:52] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[23:52] <capcook> Joey_: :)
[23:52] <SimonPHOENIX> hello guys
[23:52] <Gentoo64> must be in ram then, its only a few mb
[23:52] <SolarisBoy> fayimora: they have host based dyndns clients i believe
[23:53] <fayimora> mcphail: haven't really tried that…
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: You probably already have a router on your home network
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> the kernel is loaded into memory....
[23:53] <Joey_> Unpacking lib32asound2 (from .../lib32asound2_1.0.24.1-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb) ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0 ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing triggers for doc-base ...
[23:53] <Joey_> Processing 29 changed doc-base files...
[23:53] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <Joey_> Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> it requires a reboot to load anew one
[23:53] <SimonPHOENIX> is anybody here from Stockholm?
[23:53] <John> Has anyone been having sound problems with ubuntu 11.10? with 3.5mm jacks?
[23:53] <c_smith> Joey_: but this is not a social channel, if you want to be social, I'll have to direct you to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: am using uni network
[23:53] <fayimora> its lan
[23:53] <SolarisBoy> not social by far
[23:53] <mcphail> fayimora: when you say you want to run a "personal web server", do you need to see the webpages outside campus?
[23:54] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: You really should check that your school doesn't have rules against running web servers on their network
[23:54] <fayimora> mcphail: yes.. just something i can host a few web applications on and show a few friends
[23:54] <c_smith> yeah, this channel is meant for support, so lets try to keep it that way.
[23:54] <Sanus> So, I'm back  People at the Forum couldn't tell me anything more useful than, "Unity isn't as bad as you think it is.." when trying to find driver support for 10.04 on my Compaq Presario CQ57
[23:54] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: they don't..am a computer science student so am allowed to
[23:54] <SolarisBoy> keep it DRY
[23:55] <SolarisBoy> KISS...
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: Since you are on campus, check around for a Linux users group... almost every University has one... they'd be Ideal for help you setup your server
[23:56] <mcphail> fayimora: The first thing you'll need to do is get someone to let you expose port 80 to the outside world
[23:56] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: yeah i told the systems guys but they really don't have my time … they are working on some big project in sch
[23:56] <Joey_> some message came when i finished installing wine
[23:56] <Joey_> i cant press ok
[23:56] <Sanus> My computer currently won't detect any hardware to update drivers, and nothing is controlled normally.
[23:56] <fayimora> mcphail: thought as much
[23:56] <szal> Joey_: define 'some message'
[23:57] <mcphail> fayimora: no point installing apache if noone will be able to access it
[23:57] <Sanus> Updating Alsa to the latest version, because apparently all that is in the repository is an old version.
[23:57] <Joey_> "IMPORANT-READ CAREFULLY: This microsoft ENd-usr license agreement ("EULA") is legal agreement between
[23:57] <Joey_> blah blah blah
[23:57] <Artemis3> fayimora, can you access any other port from outside maybe above 1024?
[23:57] <Joey_> and then there is a ok button
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> fayimora: This would be different that whom you went too... Don't use the school's staff as a source... other students are better... find someone in your dorm that might know more about what your trying to do
[23:57] <Joey_> i cant click
[23:57] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <capcook> tab
[23:57] <Joey_> OH lol
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> you'll learn a lot more and be less frustrated if you can find someone to help you in person
[23:57] <fayimora> pragmaticenigma: ok
[23:57] <secleinteer> hi, i accidentally removed apt-get and dpkg from my system. how can i manually install the dpkg .deb so that i can start fixing this?
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: reinstall is a good way
[23:58] <secleinteer> iceroot: other than that
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: or a live-syste, and copy back the binaries
[23:58] <secleinteer> ubuntu doesn't come with build tools right?
[23:58] <John> Can anyone help me with a sound issue? I have been working at this for the past two days with no luck. please help!
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: there really isn't any otherway than to start over... there are a lot of customized setup scripts that aren't included in the .deb files
[23:58] <iceroot> secleinteer: and of course without dpkg you cant install deb-files
[23:59] <secleinteer> well i was thinking of just downloading the dpkg sources and compiling it
[23:59] <Sanus> oh crap
[23:59] <Sanus> disconnected from the internet.
[23:59] <secleinteer> like you would do to set up dpkg on a lfs box
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: You would need the package manager to help you get the build tools and support libraries installed
[23:59] <secleinteer> but i'm guessing that compilers aren't included in the default ubuntu install?
[23:59] <mcphail> secleinteer: no
[23:59] <iceroot> secleinteer: correct
[23:59] <secleinteer> alright, i guess i'll just reinstall then
[23:59] <secleinteer> thanks for the help