[12:52] <scoopex> it seems that there is a buggy upstart script for apache in ubuntu/11.10...boot.log just shows "Starting web server - failed"....if i start it manually it works perfectly....how can i debug the reason for "failed" ?
[12:54] <jhunt_> scoopex: apache is a SysV service - /etc/init.d/apache2
[12:56] <scoopex> i discovered the reason for this....apache trys to include the config from a nfs-share....the script contains the following lsb-tags "Required-Start:    $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog $named"....this is outside of upstart control, right?
[12:58] <jhunt_> scoopex: yes - apache2 is a SysV package. It really needs to be "upstartified" :)
[12:59] <scoopex> it seems that the sysv-compatibility mode ignores the lsb-dependencies....
[17:58] <SpamapS> scoopex: indeed, those can't be resolved because some are satisfied by upstart jobs
[18:00] <SpamapS> jhunt: I wonder if we shouldn't just have an upstart job that uses apachectl in pre-start/post-stop and doesn't track apache's pids.
[18:09] <scoopex> SpamapS: what about the the useful arguements? graceful-stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean|status
[18:10] <scoopex> admins really need this :-)
[18:10] <SpamapS> scoopex: apachectl isn't going anywhere
[18:11] <SpamapS> scoopex: (which is where you were *supposed* to be calling those.. ;)