[00:00] trying http://www.namanb.com/2010/05/changing-bootup-resolution-plymouth-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html [00:00] be right back [00:01] homebrewcider: sorry, i think it's called "displays" instead of "xfce4-display" [00:05] it worked only for the shutdown plymouth splash [00:05] not for the boot up [00:06] :( [00:06] well at least your system isn't broken now ;) [00:06] yes [00:07] after a couple of seconds of no splash at all i was... like... please dont break [00:07] will try another res [00:07] thanks, brb [00:44] can anyone recommend a good tiling windowmanager that works well will xfce? I'd like to try one out [00:52] Ramides: if you find one let me know, I am interested in that as well. [00:55] wapiflapi: a fine gentleman in #ubuntu recommended awesome wm, i'm going to look into that one === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:08] hello [01:09] hi Gamera [01:10] Does *ubuntu do upgrades between full number versions or only between same number versions (such as 11.04 to 11.10)? [01:10] I think that depends on settings in the update manager, but i am not sure about it. [01:12] I am a long time, dedicated windows user, but really, I only use a few windows things I *need* (which can be run in Vbox just fine) but, I don't care to do a full system upgrade every year or however often a full version update is done... I used XP for almost 10 years... now in win7, and I may stick with it, but poking around and seeing if it's worthwhile to me to bother with *ubuntu for my [01:12] main machine [01:13] I may be better off staying with win7 since I have machine more than ample in specs to run it without a problem [01:14] I have xubuntu on a machine for out in my garage which is older but for my main machine? not sure. [01:14] specs shouldnt be the thing that makes you choose linux over windows ;) [01:16] well, to a certain degree it can be, like the garage machine. XP isn't getting any younger, the garage machine is too underspec'd RAM & video wise for win7, so xubuntu is a great choice for it. i considered win2k but some software is now XP and newer anymore [01:16] of course =) [01:16] amazingly, the newest firefox is still win2k [01:17] but for flash, they stopped at 10.x [01:19] I guess odds are I will stay with windows. it works for my needs on this machine just fine. I stick with free antivirus (avast) and use firefox for my browser, etc. i very rarely ever have any virus issues. maybe once every 4 years... if that even. and it's never been anything i couldn't fix [01:20] I'd rip my hair out of something went wrong with linux since I'd have no idea where to even begin hehe [01:22] I do like xubuntu though, hence it being on the garage machine [01:32] Someone any idea how I could prevent skype from showing up in the notification area ? (next to wifi & co) [01:32] some sort of whitelist / blacklist somewhere that defines who is allowed to popup there ? [01:36] <|Slacker|> wapiflapi, I guess skype has a feature you can deactivate [01:36] <|Slacker|> or a plugin or something [01:39] Well, i didnt find the feature. [01:40] i'll see if I can find a plugin for that [02:00] Was wondering if there is a way to get lightdm to show the names of users. [02:01] as it is now have to type the name of the user and then type the pw [02:02] using ubuntu with only base. xfce as the DE, lightdm, Emerald as a windows manager and compiz as a compositor. [02:04] and it it works darn nice. Just that detail will not showing the names of users when I log in with lightdm [02:05] So yeah its Ubuntu with xfcd and I would call this xubuntu [02:05] xfce [02:12] |Slacker|: i cant find anything :/ idid download the source of the indicator plugin, i am looking at it right now; adding a whitlist should be prety easy, so i guess i'll just hack it that way ;) [02:46] newb here with a probably simple question if anyone has some time :) [02:47] I can not edit my etc/default/grub for some reason and i need to add radeon.audio=1 to it; any ideas? on the latest ver of xubuntu [02:48] reaper: what errors do you get when you try and edit? [02:49] sec ill post it :) [02:49] sudo nano /etc/default/grub [02:49] ^^ that should do it... you'll need to run sudo update-grub afterwards like it says at the top of the file [02:50] ah good he just soled it i was trying for gedit which didnt work so i went to directory and edited it and it wouldnt save now to figure out howto usenano :-D [02:50] just started linux today hehe so fresh guy here after many years inw indows :( [02:50] cool... hope you enjoy :) [02:51] im liking it so far! can i bug you one last time? [02:52] sure... just ask... if someone is around, and/or knows, they will chime in :) [02:52] i edited the line i needed to adjust ( hopefully too return audio ) and i see where ^x is to dit so i was wondering where do i hit that at then to do my update [02:52] control+o saves [02:52] okay then how do i exit it bleh i hate being a newb [02:52] control+x is to exit [02:53] reaper: you just edit the file, and you save with control+o [02:53] then exit with control+x [02:53] ah okay so when i see ^x it means cntrl and such [02:53] you can also run... [02:53] gksudo gedit /path/to/file [02:54] if you prefer administrator rights to edit a systmen file with a GUI [02:54] hmmm interesting [02:54] see im used to windows im 24 and have used windows since i was about 9 years of age and am graduating with comp prog and analysis but have little to no linux experience heh [02:54] cmd is fine for me i prefer it [02:54] well terminal [02:54] im sure you'll pick it up quickly [02:55] i hope so hehe brb gotta reboot to see if audio has returned! [03:00] well that was anticlimatic still no sound poop [03:01] reaper: lets start at the beginning... [03:02] double check that the speakers are on or whatever... and the speakers are capable of making sound [03:02] i learned in kernel 3.0 and above hdmi audio was disabled automatically due to black screens [03:02] so i re-enabled it in grub with radeon.audio=1 [03:02] reaper: not sure about that, just get an older kernel then [03:02] well heres the thing that fix worked in regular ubuntu [03:03] so im wondering why it is not working in xubuntu [03:03] i have it on my tv and my tv audio is loud and unmuted [03:03] could be the applet?... when i muse, im muted [03:03] the hardware switch only mutes... wont unmute in xubuntu [03:04] wait hmmm so any suggestions [03:04] remember your speaking to a windows guy who is used to windows doing everything with basic commands heh damn i feel like a moron [03:05] reaper: make sure you understand how the sound controls operate in xfce [03:06] hah shall i ask another dumb question lol looks like im going to have to look into xfce [03:06] hmm youtube video is not playing sound >.< [03:06] reaper: try just a sound file... thats going to drag flash into the mix, and the web browser [03:07] just open a local audio file and play it with something simple like VLC [03:07] okay let me see if i can find any os basic sounds [03:08] reaper do you have 2 cards for sound [03:08] 2 gfx cards both hdmi out only using one cards are xfire [03:08] yeah, thats a good point... sound is probably coming out of the internal sound card [03:08] i got same prob now carefully listen [03:08] found a ".mod" file which i guess is equivalent to .mp3? [03:09] install pavucontrol on your pc [03:09] go to synaptic [03:09] ok googling to find software [03:10] reaper: dont google [03:10] no goto synaptic pakage manager its rhere [03:10] open synaptic, and install pavucontrol [03:10] can i do it from terminal? [03:10] yeah... sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [03:11] sorry im obnoxious folks bleh now i know what its like to be that customer i always complain about heh [03:11] ok getting [03:11] ok done. [03:11] nah i am recent shift from xp too [03:12] ok open menu go in multimedia open pulse audio control [03:12] cool how you canuse terminal to install software packages without having to go to sites [03:12] ok opened [03:12] yeah i love it in linux [03:13] can you see tabs for output devices and playback and input? [03:13] yeah [03:14] i see internal analog audio stereo [03:14] in every tab adjust the device to the card you want to use [03:14] couldnt i just disable my onboard audio via bios? [03:15] yeah you can but i dont know how but after adjusting it you ll get your sound back [03:15] yes reaper , that is the easiest, (at least it was for me) [03:15] not all boards give options too [03:15] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+ [03:15] true :p but it is worth checking [03:16] DAMN CAT ON WIRELESS KEYBOARD [03:16] >.< [03:16] ok let me try adjusting it [03:16] still no dice im looking at audio output and i moved every slider [03:16] you can change card in configuration option and volume in other tabs [03:17] goto configuration tab [03:17] think i may have it or am close [03:17] im under playback derp [03:17] lol [03:17] goto configuration [03:17] change the profile menu to what card you want [03:18] and turn off the internal; audio from there too it has option [03:18] ok disabled both except the one card im using [03:18] yeah now unmute all tabs and try the sound now [03:20] no dice [03:21] letme think [03:22] did yoou close up the control [03:22] now when i playback via youtube ( cant find an audio file ) it shows the bar with blue a little but its ultra fast [03:22] yeah [03:22] it is like it is playing a minute a second [03:22] i see the bar fluxuating with blue [03:22] open again n check the settings again [03:23] its on alsa plugin plugin container btw [03:23] change to pulse audio [03:24] how do i change it [03:24] juniper hdmi audio radeon 5700; alsa plugin container [03:25] letme do breakfast :) you want some [03:26] can always go for some grub hah unintentional [03:28] bleh damn this sucks i fixed it easily in ubuntu now this is becoming a pain hah brb going to disable onboard audio in bios [03:32] >.< [03:32] whatsup [03:33] still fighting the audio fight hah [03:33] omg [03:33] wondering what im missing from standard ubunut to here [03:33] now follow carefully [03:33] but i love xubuntu [03:33] are u having sound issues too? [03:33] yar but mines because i chose to hdmi out via gfx adapters [03:34] open up the sound icon from taskbart [03:34] taskbar [03:34] ok [03:35] both the playback are the juniper radeon 5700 and now pulseaudio [03:35] not alsa [03:35] change the sound card option to the card you want and mysust be on pulse audio [03:35] must* [03:36] yeah its on the card and pulse [03:36] see the master control it mustnt be mute or low [03:36] its on full blast [03:37] open pulse audio control from multimedia [03:38] change output port to analogue output/amplifier [03:38] input to analogue microphone [03:39] says dummy output [03:39] derp okay anyways following my mistake [03:39] configuration profile to analogue stereo duplex [03:39] turn off internal audio from there [03:39] output only gives me hdmi not analog [03:39] internal was turned off in there and is now off via the bios [03:39] then change all to that [03:40] or can you see it digital there [03:40] i can see hdmi and digital hdmi [03:40] if it dont gives you sound try changing profiles [03:40] change to digita [03:41] digital*....check it ll be back [03:53] ima try to download the drivers from ati and see if they resolve any issues [03:53] I'd try pavucontrol [03:53] !info pavucontrol [03:53] pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB [03:54] tried [03:55] :( [03:55] k [03:55] didnt work now i got a run file i dont even know how to use heh [03:55] fff i hate being new [03:56] how do i use a run file? cause maybe if i run this it will resolve my current issue [03:58] oh well brb [04:13] hm. this other pc i'm putting together is sure rigged together [04:14] replaced the fan in the power supply, have a brand new (but old) AMD heatsink tghtly zip tied down onto a p4, works nicely.. [04:14] gota love the p4 bracket, allowing you to zip tie down a heatsink === iodine is now known as iodine15 [05:52] what is the XFCE default Terminal? when i click on the icon it asks for the associated program and brings up the usr/bin and i have to scroll through... [05:57] when you click on the icon for what? [05:58] my terminal... [05:58] from my launchers, and from my menu [05:58] must not actually be the terminal then. should be under the accessories menu [05:58] terminal emulator [06:01] yeah it opens a window askin which terminal and opening up my usr/bin location [06:02] xfce4-terminal [06:02] should be it [06:02] yep it is [06:02] go to accessories > run program and type that in [06:04] heh although you can do that with any command to run in terminal i just noticed [06:04] if you check the box [06:06] in the window with the programs i see XFCE-terminal.wrapper is that it? [06:07] no [06:07] xfce4-terminal [06:08] create a launcher if all else fails with that program name [06:09] problem is from menu or my launcher from default panel is opening a window with usr/bin no terminal attached to the launcher [06:17] hmm i got firefox to work but i dont see the XFCE-terminal [06:18] zus: is it a terminal app? [06:19] well, the launcher was default, my tilda i ran from menu when i wanted to use it. [06:19] or the terminal itself you want to open? [06:19] well the default button form the panel. doesnt open termial no more [06:20] you've checked its' properties and it points to something that exists? [06:22] well, it worked when i opened the terminal did "sudo apt-get update" and thats the last time it worked. [06:23] well sudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get upgrade / y..... then i shutdown hour later i opened it up to play around. [06:23] here the launcher points to exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator [06:24] so it might be an exo problem then [06:25] check in exo-preferred-applications what the terminakl app is and if it still exists [06:25] s/akl/al/ [06:25] exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator thats what i got . [06:26] so you need to check what exo-preferred-applications calls the terminal [06:26] check in exo-preferred-applications what the terminal app is and if it still exists [06:27] is the s/akl/al the path to check? [06:28] no that's regex to repair a spelling mistake I did [06:28] oh where do i check to see what exo calls the terminal? [06:29] open the menu -settings-settings manager-preffered applications-utilities tab [06:33] ok sorry im a bit slow, lol [06:34] heh it's fine :) not much else happn'n atm [06:34] it has "no application selected",... and still takes me to the window with usr/bin path [06:35] I only have xfce4-terminal-wrapper in /usr/bin so maybe try that one [06:35] at least you know why it wasn't working [06:36] lol guess that is true. [06:37] I lied - I have a xfce4-terminal in /usr/bin - it didn't show when browsing through preferred applications tho ... [06:40] i ill see if its installed by looking in synapptic,....its not a big deal i have tilda and terminator, BUT why did an update/upgrade muck up the default? [06:40] I couldn't say [06:55] well_laid_lawn, in synaptic.... XFCE4-terminal is installed.... and exo-utils has a star on the green box.... i dunno wot the star means but now im at a loss. [06:55] zus: afaik the star means there is an update [06:58] oh? cool [06:58] i didnt kn [06:58] know [07:01] how do i hold back an update? [07:02] I've no idea [07:02] i dont want cups for example...using the terminal your kinda along for the ride... === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === CiPi is now known as cipi [10:27] Just came here to say a big thankyou to everyone responsible for xubuntu 11.10, came here from kde and I have been really impressed with how stable and simple the who xubuntu set up is. Its been a joyful ride so far so good :) [10:34] My session automatically saves on logout, even though I have it unchecked in Session and Startup === cipi is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as cipi [12:18] Hi. Okay. Now I don't want to guess how many people have this problem :-) After yesterdays update I can't log in into my system, and talking specifically ecryptfs was broken, what is not funny http://pastebin.com/crB4qSFg [12:19] this pastebin shows what update-manager have installed, and after reboot i get that ecryptfs error [12:20] should I downgrade to 3.0.0-12 (yes, this version was installed before upgrade) [12:20] ? [12:28] hi, how can I remove skype from the indicator-plugin ? there is No option in skype, i looked at the source code for xfce4-indicator-plugin there seems to be a configuration files witch allows blacklisting, but I can't get it to work :/ [12:28] anyone has any experience with this ? [13:02] hey how do i get pavucontrols [13:02] !pavu [13:05] reaper: install it with the package manager [13:05] is that the more indepth one trhat corrects sound issues? heh fresh here ill have to find the package manager [13:06] it's in the system menu [13:07] installing :) [13:07] how can I remove skype from the indicator-plugin ? there is No option in skype, i looked at the source code for xfce4-indicator-plugin there seems to be a configuration files witch allows blacklisting, but I can't get it to work :/ anyone has any experience with this ? [13:08] Hi. [13:08] brb [13:09] i have tried to install gnome-screensaver in xubuntu but cant find gnome-screensaver-preferences [13:09] I am from Russia. [13:10] it is not there in oneiric http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist [13:10] but its there in natty http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist [13:10] does anyone know where i can find it? [13:10] or if its replaced by something else? [13:11] bleh crap i can get audio in ubuntu but never xubuntu >.< [13:12] when i go to pavu the playback just says alsa plug-in container: alsa playback [13:12] not the card im using [13:14] sweet got it [13:14] hehe yay finally fixed my hdmi audio issue [13:15] pain in the ass but yay [13:15] ubuntu is just too slow this is so much more efficient [13:16] and i already set my root password so im good to go [13:19] warcraft doesnt work on linux correct? [13:20] time to learn hehe so quiet [14:39] ok, please help me. This works on all of my other workstations, but one fully updated ubuntu 11.10 PC I can connect to via vino-server, and can see the screen, but I can't control the remote mouse or keyboard. (NOT set to view only) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:32] hello, I have problems [16:33] I try to change default apps in ods file but system types me that it cannot create this on mimetypse because of permisions [16:33] .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list.OH394V: fails: No access [16:33] in other files it's same [16:43] olbi: can you open a terminal, type 'ls -ald .local/share/applications' and pastebin the result? [16:47] TheSheep, ok [16:47] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-11-14 16:12 .local/share/applications [16:47] only this was written [16:50] olbi: this directory is owned by root [16:50] olbi: but it should be owned by your user [16:50] sudo chown regularusername:regularusername ~/.local/share/applications [16:51] never run GUI apps with sudo, only gksudo [16:51] i didnt run it as root, only loggeg as user :/ [16:51] olbi: the command that Sysi gave you will change the ownership of that directory to "regularusername" [16:51] yesterday I could change [16:51] olbi: but you may have more directories with wrong ownership like that [16:51] today it shown [16:52] why this happens? :( [16:52] i am using system on external drive on USB cable :] [16:53] my guess was that you've ran thunar with sudo, but maybe it's interference of some other OS [16:54] on computer where I running Xubuntu on ext.drive is installed Windows 7 Pro [16:56] very thx for help :) works now normally === zenrox_ is now known as zenrox [20:48] hello [20:49] how to fix a package system which is broken? [21:21] Hello, I just installed Xubuntu 11.10 did updates and restarted. Then installed ATI proprietary drivers and restarted. I try and start amdcccle and apply settings for a dual monitor setup and it crashes and says Segmentation fault and doesn't apply the settings. [21:22] Help please? [21:23] Anybody there? [21:25] hello [21:25] what cards do you have? [21:31] Is there anybody here? [21:33] yes :) [21:33] Well lets hope you can help. [21:33] what problem you have? [21:34] I just install Xubuntu 11.10 and installed update and restarted. Then install ATI proprietary drivers and opened amdcccle and tried to setup dual monitors and I click apply and it crashes and says Segmentation fault [21:34] so what card do you have? [21:35] HD3000 [21:35] IGP? [21:35] on MotherBoard? [21:35] IGP? whats that [21:35] Integrated Graphics Processor :) [21:35] yes its a laptop so probably mobility [21:36] you want connect external monitor to laptop? [21:36] yes i rarly use it outside of home [21:37] try first connect it and check if on display is image [21:37] dual monitors on AMD isnt working so great like on NVIDIA [21:38] ok does the monitor make a difference [21:38] ? [21:39] after connect monitor to laptop it should take image to monitor [21:39] ok unplug it and plug back in? [21:39] yes [21:39] and what happen then [21:40] ok it came back up just the same [21:40] segmentation fault? [21:40] no image on monitor? [21:40] ok thats when i type # amdcccle in terminal [21:40] and change settings and click apply [21:40] there image [21:41] ok, so cloning works [21:41] yes [21:41] and you want dual desktop? [21:41] yes where i can drag windows across [21:43] hmmm, never tried this on AMD :P only on NVIDIA and that works fine, could we w8 for tommorow with this? I will check that on my Radeon and 2 monitors :) [21:43] Sure what time [21:43] when you will be here? [21:44] IDK let me look [21:44] well im mountain time so anytime after 4:00 pm [21:45] its 2:45 right now [21:45] I have 10:45 pm [21:45] wow lol [21:45] ok [21:46] you have 2:45 am? [21:46] or pm [21:46] pm [21:46] lol should have said that [21:46] ok, I will w8 until midnight :) [21:46] so anytime really [21:47] try to be 3 pm like today [21:47] ok can do [21:47] and type to me on PM, I will be tommorow [21:47] staraneg question are there any good xrandr confige tools until then [21:47] ok [21:50] grandr or arandr [21:50] ok thank you [21:50] and gnome have screen resolution which is front end for xrandr [21:50] I think [21:50] does XFCE4? [21:52] xrandr is part of x.org, so xfce support it [21:52] in settings === cipi is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as CiP === CiP is now known as CiPi === CiPi is now known as cipi