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phiscribeok, not a kubuntu or kde excatly topic, but i like the search and launch optin in kde, anybody know of a lighter wieght windows manager that is similar to that funciton for some of my slower boxes?01:43
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photonwill Kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version also be supported for 5 years just as Ubuntu 12.04?02:03
szalphoton: desktop LTS versions are supported for 3 years02:06
photonszal: not the case with Ubuntu 12.04. that's why I'm asking.02:07
szalphoton: yes, with Ubuntu too..  5 years is for the server02:07
photonszal: again, not with 12.04.02:08
szalphoton: who told you that?02:08
photonszal: Canonical did. http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-feature-extended-support-period-desktop-users02:09
szalinteresting02:12
photonAnd since Canonical will force Unity down our throats with 12.04, and gnome-fallback will be dropped, I'm looking for an alternative that does not use Unity. So far Debian, Linux Mint, and Xubuntu/Kubuntu come to mind. I'm basically looking for a long term support/stable release I can use for years.02:13
phiscribecentos02:13
Darkwingphoton: we have not decided yet. we are going to meet with the tech board soon. re: 5 or 3 year lts02:19
photonDarkwing: I see. Well, it'd  be a huge plus, especially for people who want to move away from standard Ubuntu versions.02:29
phiscribeunity seems 10feet tall02:31
phiscribeish02:31
Darkwingphoton. yes, we are putting together a proposal for the tech board. by we I mean the kubuntu council. when we figure it all out, ill make sure a note makes it to kubuntu.org and ill tweet about it.02:34
photonthat'd be awesome, thanks Darkwing.02:34
Darkwingyup. I'm @dwonderly and ill note updates there too.02:34
Darkwinganything else we can do while I'm lurking about? :)02:35
phiscribeconfigure my asterisk server02:36
Darkwinglol good luck. ;)02:36
phiscribedarkwing ninja ducks are chicken02:37
Darkwingheh. I want my old nick back. :(02:37
TheBuntusence with mbr can only have 4 primary partitions and having to make an extended partition for more then 4... And gpt can have more then 4 prrimary.... is there any other ups or downs05:31
Peppermint`SchnaTheBuntu: if you plan to dual boot or such, gpt can be a pita with windows05:32
TheBuntuPeppermint`Schna: just going to run kubuntu for now... Then maybe later on a 2nd hdd.. win7... but use the bios boot menu to choose between drives05:34
TheBuntuand i noticed in gparted thens other partition tables05:35
TheBuntuthere's... not then...lol05:35
Peppermint`SchnaTheBuntu: yea there are many different partitioning options, most are not useful to the average person05:36
TheBuntubsd is for bsd right... mac for mac...05:38
Peppermint`Schnaif you are realy looking for something else, id look at zfs05:39
TheBuntui thought that was a bsd file system05:40
Peppermint`Schnanope05:41
TheBuntuhow do i get it.. i dont see it in gparted05:43
TheBuntuunless its the 1 that says sun.. sence it made by sun05:43
Peppermint`Schnaits a fuse05:44
Peppermint`Schnauser space, it runs on top05:44
TheBuntuohh05:45
TheBuntuso its not a partition table then05:45
TheBuntureading a wiki on the web...   In computing, ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed by Sun Microsystems.05:46
Peppermint`Schnayea05:46
TheBuntuohh ok... so i use mbr or gpt.... then insted of ext4... use zfs05:48
Peppermint`Schnayup05:48
TheBuntuso its better then ext405:48
Peppermint`Schnamuch so, but mainly for multi disk systems05:49
Peppermint`Schnait still has better backing up and recovery then ext4, but the performace for it is lower on single disk05:49
TheBuntuso useing 1 500 gig hdd... zfs is going to preform slower then ext405:50
Peppermint`Schnagive or take05:51
TheBuntuwhat are you useing05:51
starncan someone help me with my issues with ampache?? everything appears to be setup correctly but i go to http://localhost/ampache and it gives me a 404 error.. yet when i go to it without the /ampache it loads the page apache comes with saying it works.. so it has to be something with configurations or ampache..05:55
TheBuntuwhat about btrfs05:59
Peppermint`Schnano idea, no experiance with it06:07
athena_Does any body know how to disable akonadi? I really do not know some significant meaning of it on kde.06:14
Peppermint`Schnaok, this is confusing, why does PackageName conflict with PackageName [universe] ? where PackageName is ALL packages06:25
Peppermint`Schnathis might be the source of the WTH dependancy hell im in06:26
Peppermint`Schna(and some packages are listed as multiverse instead of universe)06:27
Peppermint`Schnaand yes, my sources.list is default (just doubled checked that)06:27
kierkkadonSo how is Dwarf Fortress for Linux?06:48
naftilos76hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help?07:07
naftilos76I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.307:07
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HaPirateJust installed Kubuntu desktop.  Lovin it.  Need help with screen res.  Anyone?07:18
naftilos76hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help? I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3.07:29
susundbergI would suspect server settings / status at first ..07:30
susundbergis the server working with those settings with another client or are you otherwise very certain that the options are correct?07:30
susundbergIf not so can you test the sending with another server -- for example google server -- if that also fails, then there is problem with the program or the usage of it07:32
skramer_Using KMail2, I´m unable to read my e-mails. The preview just says that it is syncing folders although I´m having POP3 e-mail account... Any hints?08:55
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LINKSWORD2I've got an interesting question, and I'm not sure if it can be answered...10:12
LINKSWORD2I've got a program called KShutdown installed on my system as a shutdown management timer. I set the timer's date and time and at that point, it tells the system to shutdown, restart, etc.10:12
LINKSWORD2By default, it comes with a series of notices available: 2 hours, 1 hour, 30 minutes, 5 minutes and 1 minute. I want to find out if more notices can be added, and how, if possible.10:13
LINKSWORD2My apologies if I appear to be "flooding" but I'd like any pertinent information possible.10:17
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SuibaruXHey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly)10:55
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GirlyGirlHi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it13:02
ragnarokHey. I go at system > additional drivers and i see 2 options for my gpu: 1) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver 2) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates).13:12
ragnarokwhat to get?13:12
BluesKajHi all13:14
vprintshi13:15
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jaime_hola a tod@s13:56
tomy_hello where to get help for qt embedded development on STmicroelectronics SPEAr processor14:03
tomy_?14:03
BluesKajtomy_, not here , look for a qt dev chat room14:10
BluesKajtomy_, ldo your own search please14:11
jurenI have a question about the Unity Interface.14:15
soeeyofel, may i ask you a question?14:15
szaljuren: KDE has nothing to do w/ Unity14:16
jurenI understand . . . I'm just trying to get some backgound and understand why Unity was developed.14:18
jurenThat's ok, I will try this on another channel.14:19
szaljuren: #ubuntu-offtopic14:19
jurenbye for now14:19
mohammadetakiehallo14:20
DemonWitchis it a good idea to use 64bit square flash on ubuntu rather than the default package?14:20
mohammadetakiei am arabic14:20
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szalDemonWitch: shut it now14:23
DemonWitchnow go ahead, have a good day14:23
DemonWitchszal: dont interven troll14:23
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jurensorry14:28
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soeedo you have the same issue when draging icon on desktop that transparency doesnt work anymore ?16:13
* szal doesn't drag icons onto the desktop16:38
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BarkingFishHi guys, dunno if anyone's been through an update today, but I have a new kernel showing up in apper - 3.0.0.14.16 - just wondered if it's an official one, or from the proposed updates PPA i'm attached to?17:57
c_smithits official, i got the same version yesterday and I don't have any PPAs that would give that.17:59
c_smithI have very few PPAs added, the biggest ones being Playdeb and Getdeb17:59
BluesKajyup, getting ready for the transistion to 3,1, then 3.2 eventually on 12.0418:00
BarkingFishah, the only ppa I have is the kubuntu one, and i also have proposed updates switched in - i wasn't sure what it was :)18:01
ro0tcra5hhi @ all18:12
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elwoodhi all18:39
elwoodthere is another  application i can use to manage bootup services instead of the desfault one ?18:40
BluesKajstartup&shutdown in system settings , elwood18:41
elwoodyes but there is some stuff like eee-control that i can't manage from there18:42
BluesKajeee-control ?18:43
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elwoodBluesKaj, an applet for eeepc, to manage some energetic stuff18:54
elwoodbut also i want to stop the printer server and so18:54
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rashxthi19:04
rashxtI have no audio19:04
rashxtafter boot I got a window tells me that some audio card were removed19:04
rashxtbut this is not true , in fact I have audio card on my motherboard19:05
rashxtnow via phonon I see my audio card disabled and I can't enable19:05
BluesKajrashxt, do aplay -l , see what cars are listed19:06
BluesKajcards19:06
rashxtBluesKaj: I see ALC660 card19:07
rashxtHDA VIA VT82xx19:07
BluesKajok, try this ,  lspci | grep -i audio19:08
rashxt80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10)19:09
rashxtBluesKaj: any idea?19:13
BluesKajrashxt, hang on , Im checking19:17
elwoodrashxt, open alsamixer in a terminal, look if somethigs is switched off and check the backend of phonon in system settings19:22
BluesKajrashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice825119:23
rashxtFATAL: Module snd_ice8251 not found.19:24
BluesKajelwood, his card isn't showing as default19:24
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BluesKajrashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice8237A19:24
elwoodoh sorry19:25
rashxtnot found this too19:25
BluesKajrashxt, ok try this ..we need to know what modules is loaded , cat /proc/asound/modules19:27
rashxt0 snd_hda_intel19:27
BluesKajok we have something there19:28
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BluesKaj open this file as root and look for that module in the list , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf . then if it is add this line, options snd_hda_intel index=0 ..also make sure are no other lines with that module listed, save the file19:31
BluesKajrashxt, ^19:31
BluesKaj this module , snd_hda_intel ..no 0 in front19:32
BluesKajthis makes the module the default on your computer, rashxt , which it wasn't before ... you may need to run,  sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel afterwards , then reboot19:35
rashxtok trying.....19:35
soeesomeone tried KDe 4.8 b1 already ?19:35
rashxthere's my alsamodule conf: http://pastebin.com/aNFPZ6EB19:35
BluesKajrashxt, did you add , options snd_hda_intel index=0 ?19:37
BluesKajsoee, it's abit soon , what's the rush anyway ?19:39
WinCamXP-Phonehello, I installed the normal KDE package on ubuntu 11.10, and it boots fine, but after a minute or so the display stops updating correctly19:42
WinCamXP-PhoneIn order to see the changes in a window, I have to minimize abd reopen it19:43
BluesKajWinCamXP-Phone, normal kde package being ?19:43
WinCamXP-Phonei cant remember, either kde-default or kde-standard19:43
WinCamXP-Phoneits on the ubuntu repos19:43
BluesKajWinCamXP-Phone, install kubuntu-desktop19:44
WinCamXP-Phoneshould i uninstall the one I used?19:44
BluesKajno19:44
WinCamXP-Phonethen should the pictures update correctly?19:44
BluesKajpictures?19:45
rashxtBluesKaj: ty audio is back19:45
WinCamXP-Phonebecause it installed all of the default kde programs and such19:45
BluesKajrashxt, good19:45
WinCamXP-PhoneI'm not at my computer, but windows stopped updating and I have to minimize and restore to see changes19:46
WinCamXP-Phonewhich is almost unusable, especially on the K menu thing19:46
BluesKajWinCamXP-Phone, , windows ?19:46
WinCamXP-Phoneany program I have open19:47
BluesKajWinCamXP-Phone, just install kubuntu-desktop19:47
WinCamXP-Phonewhat's different between that nd what I used?19:47
WinCamXP-Phoneis the one I used "unofficial" or something?19:48
BluesKajit will tie everything together for you ...when kubuntu is installed , which is ubuntu with KDE kubuntu-desktop is default19:49
WinCamXP-PhoneI keep Unity if I ever need it though, right?19:49
BluesKajif you wish , just choose your desktop environment in the menu when you login19:50
WinCamXP-Phoneso I do NOT uninstall the kde package I have?19:50
BluesKajno19:50
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WinCamXP-Phonewill I have two KDE options at login then?19:51
BluesKajapt or the package manager will take care of any dupes for you19:51
BluesKajno19:51
WinCamXP-Phoneso all of the KDE apps already installed wont be installed again?19:52
BluesKajthey will remain19:52
WinCamXP-Phonewhen I get home I will do that19:52
WinCamXP-Phoneif I need any more help I will be back19:53
WinCamXP-Phonethanks19:53
BluesKajok, good luck19:53
sayakbhi, something strange happened on my system. one of my systems was really out of date since about 2 months, so i fired it up and upgraded the packages. Then it prompted me for a dist upgrade, which i started, but it got interrupted. When i logged back in, plasma wont start, so i reconfigured all installed packages. now it says i'm on 11.10 (used lsb_release), and it also says no new updates. is there any way to check what actually happened?20:44
genii-aroundsayakb: Might be something in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log21:00
BluesKajBBL, stuff to do21:12
mithrophi here21:16
mithropI juste have a little question. To launch kdesu, I now have to enter "$(kde4-config --path libexec)kdesu", there is a way to just enter "kdesu" ?21:21
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freemenHello room21:39
genii-aroundmithrop: Probably make symbolic link in /usr/bin to it's location in /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu-distrib/21:46
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mithropoh ok :D thank you very well :D21:46
genii-aroundmithrop: kdesudo is recommended usually21:47
freementhank you genii21:47
BarkingFishhow do I search for which package provides what?  I need the plasma widget library for the systemtray widget22:08
genii-aroundBarkingFish: I usually use the web interface at packages.ubuntu.com22:09
BarkingFishi know there's a way you can do it from the command line, can't remember it though22:09
rork!find libplasma-widget22:11
ubottuPackage/file libplasma-widget does not exist in oneiric22:11
BarkingFish!info plasma-widgets-workspace oneiric22:15
ubottuplasma-widgets-workspace (source: kde-workspace): plasma widgets and containments for the KDE Plasma Workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 448 kB, installed size 2256 kB22:15
BarkingFish!rdepends plasma-widgets-workspace22:15
DragginGood evening. I'm assuming since you guys use Kubuntu, someone in here might know a thing or two about Okular. Where can I find the annotations, etc. that Okular saves for documents? It's obviously not stored in the PDF itself, but I'd like to copy a particular file's annotations etc. over to a new computer that I'm using now - where do I look?22:57
DragginNevermind - just found the info in the FAQ :)22:59
DragginThanks ;)22:59
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photonCan I install Firefox and Thunderbird in Kubuntu if I don't want to use the standard web/email clients?23:43
bazhangof course23:43

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