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phiscribe | ok, not a kubuntu or kde excatly topic, but i like the search and launch optin in kde, anybody know of a lighter wieght windows manager that is similar to that funciton for some of my slower boxes? | 01:43 |
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photon | will Kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version also be supported for 5 years just as Ubuntu 12.04? | 02:03 |
szal | photon: desktop LTS versions are supported for 3 years | 02:06 |
photon | szal: not the case with Ubuntu 12.04. that's why I'm asking. | 02:07 |
szal | photon: yes, with Ubuntu too.. 5 years is for the server | 02:07 |
photon | szal: again, not with 12.04. | 02:08 |
szal | photon: who told you that? | 02:08 |
photon | szal: Canonical did. http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-feature-extended-support-period-desktop-users | 02:09 |
szal | interesting | 02:12 |
photon | And since Canonical will force Unity down our throats with 12.04, and gnome-fallback will be dropped, I'm looking for an alternative that does not use Unity. So far Debian, Linux Mint, and Xubuntu/Kubuntu come to mind. I'm basically looking for a long term support/stable release I can use for years. | 02:13 |
phiscribe | centos | 02:13 |
Darkwing | photon: we have not decided yet. we are going to meet with the tech board soon. re: 5 or 3 year lts | 02:19 |
photon | Darkwing: I see. Well, it'd be a huge plus, especially for people who want to move away from standard Ubuntu versions. | 02:29 |
phiscribe | unity seems 10feet tall | 02:31 |
phiscribe | ish | 02:31 |
Darkwing | photon. yes, we are putting together a proposal for the tech board. by we I mean the kubuntu council. when we figure it all out, ill make sure a note makes it to kubuntu.org and ill tweet about it. | 02:34 |
photon | that'd be awesome, thanks Darkwing. | 02:34 |
Darkwing | yup. I'm @dwonderly and ill note updates there too. | 02:34 |
Darkwing | anything else we can do while I'm lurking about? :) | 02:35 |
phiscribe | configure my asterisk server | 02:36 |
Darkwing | lol good luck. ;) | 02:36 |
phiscribe | darkwing ninja ducks are chicken | 02:37 |
Darkwing | heh. I want my old nick back. :( | 02:37 |
TheBuntu | sence with mbr can only have 4 primary partitions and having to make an extended partition for more then 4... And gpt can have more then 4 prrimary.... is there any other ups or downs | 05:31 |
Peppermint`Schna | TheBuntu: if you plan to dual boot or such, gpt can be a pita with windows | 05:32 |
TheBuntu | Peppermint`Schna: just going to run kubuntu for now... Then maybe later on a 2nd hdd.. win7... but use the bios boot menu to choose between drives | 05:34 |
TheBuntu | and i noticed in gparted thens other partition tables | 05:35 |
TheBuntu | there's... not then...lol | 05:35 |
Peppermint`Schna | TheBuntu: yea there are many different partitioning options, most are not useful to the average person | 05:36 |
TheBuntu | bsd is for bsd right... mac for mac... | 05:38 |
Peppermint`Schna | if you are realy looking for something else, id look at zfs | 05:39 |
TheBuntu | i thought that was a bsd file system | 05:40 |
Peppermint`Schna | nope | 05:41 |
TheBuntu | how do i get it.. i dont see it in gparted | 05:43 |
TheBuntu | unless its the 1 that says sun.. sence it made by sun | 05:43 |
Peppermint`Schna | its a fuse | 05:44 |
Peppermint`Schna | user space, it runs on top | 05:44 |
TheBuntu | ohh | 05:45 |
TheBuntu | so its not a partition table then | 05:45 |
TheBuntu | reading a wiki on the web... In computing, ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed by Sun Microsystems. | 05:46 |
Peppermint`Schna | yea | 05:46 |
TheBuntu | ohh ok... so i use mbr or gpt.... then insted of ext4... use zfs | 05:48 |
Peppermint`Schna | yup | 05:48 |
TheBuntu | so its better then ext4 | 05:48 |
Peppermint`Schna | much so, but mainly for multi disk systems | 05:49 |
Peppermint`Schna | it still has better backing up and recovery then ext4, but the performace for it is lower on single disk | 05:49 |
TheBuntu | so useing 1 500 gig hdd... zfs is going to preform slower then ext4 | 05:50 |
Peppermint`Schna | give or take | 05:51 |
TheBuntu | what are you useing | 05:51 |
starn | can someone help me with my issues with ampache?? everything appears to be setup correctly but i go to http://localhost/ampache and it gives me a 404 error.. yet when i go to it without the /ampache it loads the page apache comes with saying it works.. so it has to be something with configurations or ampache.. | 05:55 |
TheBuntu | what about btrfs | 05:59 |
Peppermint`Schna | no idea, no experiance with it | 06:07 |
athena_ | Does any body know how to disable akonadi? I really do not know some significant meaning of it on kde. | 06:14 |
Peppermint`Schna | ok, this is confusing, why does PackageName conflict with PackageName [universe] ? where PackageName is ALL packages | 06:25 |
Peppermint`Schna | this might be the source of the WTH dependancy hell im in | 06:26 |
Peppermint`Schna | (and some packages are listed as multiverse instead of universe) | 06:27 |
Peppermint`Schna | and yes, my sources.list is default (just doubled checked that) | 06:27 |
kierkkadon | So how is Dwarf Fortress for Linux? | 06:48 |
naftilos76 | hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help? | 07:07 |
naftilos76 | I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3 | 07:07 |
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HaPirate | Just installed Kubuntu desktop. Lovin it. Need help with screen res. Anyone? | 07:18 |
naftilos76 | hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help? I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3. | 07:29 |
susundberg | I would suspect server settings / status at first .. | 07:30 |
susundberg | is the server working with those settings with another client or are you otherwise very certain that the options are correct? | 07:30 |
susundberg | If not so can you test the sending with another server -- for example google server -- if that also fails, then there is problem with the program or the usage of it | 07:32 |
skramer_ | Using KMail2, I´m unable to read my e-mails. The preview just says that it is syncing folders although I´m having POP3 e-mail account... Any hints? | 08:55 |
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LINKSWORD2 | I've got an interesting question, and I'm not sure if it can be answered... | 10:12 |
LINKSWORD2 | I've got a program called KShutdown installed on my system as a shutdown management timer. I set the timer's date and time and at that point, it tells the system to shutdown, restart, etc. | 10:12 |
LINKSWORD2 | By default, it comes with a series of notices available: 2 hours, 1 hour, 30 minutes, 5 minutes and 1 minute. I want to find out if more notices can be added, and how, if possible. | 10:13 |
LINKSWORD2 | My apologies if I appear to be "flooding" but I'd like any pertinent information possible. | 10:17 |
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SuibaruX | Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly) | 10:55 |
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GirlyGirl | Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it | 13:02 |
ragnarok | Hey. I go at system > additional drivers and i see 2 options for my gpu: 1) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver 2) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates). | 13:12 |
ragnarok | what to get? | 13:12 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:14 |
vprints | hi | 13:15 |
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jaime_ | hola a tod@s | 13:56 |
tomy_ | hello where to get help for qt embedded development on STmicroelectronics SPEAr processor | 14:03 |
tomy_ | ? | 14:03 |
BluesKaj | tomy_, not here , look for a qt dev chat room | 14:10 |
BluesKaj | tomy_, ldo your own search please | 14:11 |
juren | I have a question about the Unity Interface. | 14:15 |
soee | yofel, may i ask you a question? | 14:15 |
szal | juren: KDE has nothing to do w/ Unity | 14:16 |
juren | I understand . . . I'm just trying to get some backgound and understand why Unity was developed. | 14:18 |
juren | That's ok, I will try this on another channel. | 14:19 |
szal | juren: #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:19 |
juren | bye for now | 14:19 |
mohammadetakie | hallo | 14:20 |
DemonWitch | is it a good idea to use 64bit square flash on ubuntu rather than the default package? | 14:20 |
mohammadetakie | i am arabic | 14:20 |
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DemonWitch | '\\ | 14:21 |
szal | !arabic | AleppoMohammad | 14:22 |
ubottu | AleppoMohammad: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية | 14:22 |
DemonWitch | ubuntu arabic | 14:22 |
DemonWitch | is for trolls | 14:22 |
AleppoMohammad | thanex | 14:22 |
DemonWitch | fuck you | 14:22 |
DemonWitch | fuck the prophet | 14:22 |
DemonWitch | fuck islam | 14:22 |
szal | DemonWitch: shut it now | 14:23 |
DemonWitch | now go ahead, have a good day | 14:23 |
DemonWitch | szal: dont interven troll | 14:23 |
szal | !ops | 14:23 |
ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger | 14:23 |
DemonWitch | cry more troll | 14:23 |
DemonWitch | rage moar | 14:23 |
szal | jussi: next door too | 14:24 |
jussi | szal: they left ;) | 14:24 |
szal | jussi: k :) | 14:24 |
juren | #ubuntu-missouri | 14:28 |
juren | sorry | 14:28 |
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soee | do you have the same issue when draging icon on desktop that transparency doesnt work anymore ? | 16:13 |
* szal doesn't drag icons onto the desktop | 16:38 | |
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BarkingFish | Hi guys, dunno if anyone's been through an update today, but I have a new kernel showing up in apper - 3.0.0.14.16 - just wondered if it's an official one, or from the proposed updates PPA i'm attached to? | 17:57 |
c_smith | its official, i got the same version yesterday and I don't have any PPAs that would give that. | 17:59 |
c_smith | I have very few PPAs added, the biggest ones being Playdeb and Getdeb | 17:59 |
BluesKaj | yup, getting ready for the transistion to 3,1, then 3.2 eventually on 12.04 | 18:00 |
BarkingFish | ah, the only ppa I have is the kubuntu one, and i also have proposed updates switched in - i wasn't sure what it was :) | 18:01 |
ro0tcra5h | hi @ all | 18:12 |
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elwood | hi all | 18:39 |
elwood | there is another application i can use to manage bootup services instead of the desfault one ? | 18:40 |
BluesKaj | startup&shutdown in system settings , elwood | 18:41 |
elwood | yes but there is some stuff like eee-control that i can't manage from there | 18:42 |
BluesKaj | eee-control ? | 18:43 |
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elwood | BluesKaj, an applet for eeepc, to manage some energetic stuff | 18:54 |
elwood | but also i want to stop the printer server and so | 18:54 |
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rashxt | hi | 19:04 |
rashxt | I have no audio | 19:04 |
rashxt | after boot I got a window tells me that some audio card were removed | 19:04 |
rashxt | but this is not true , in fact I have audio card on my motherboard | 19:05 |
rashxt | now via phonon I see my audio card disabled and I can't enable | 19:05 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, do aplay -l , see what cars are listed | 19:06 |
BluesKaj | cards | 19:06 |
rashxt | BluesKaj: I see ALC660 card | 19:07 |
rashxt | HDA VIA VT82xx | 19:07 |
BluesKaj | ok, try this , lspci | grep -i audio | 19:08 |
rashxt | 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10) | 19:09 |
rashxt | BluesKaj: any idea? | 19:13 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, hang on , Im checking | 19:17 |
elwood | rashxt, open alsamixer in a terminal, look if somethigs is switched off and check the backend of phonon in system settings | 19:22 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice8251 | 19:23 |
rashxt | FATAL: Module snd_ice8251 not found. | 19:24 |
BluesKaj | elwood, his card isn't showing as default | 19:24 |
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BluesKaj | rashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice8237A | 19:24 |
elwood | oh sorry | 19:25 |
rashxt | not found this too | 19:25 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, ok try this ..we need to know what modules is loaded , cat /proc/asound/modules | 19:27 |
rashxt | 0 snd_hda_intel | 19:27 |
BluesKaj | ok we have something there | 19:28 |
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BluesKaj | open this file as root and look for that module in the list , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf . then if it is add this line, options snd_hda_intel index=0 ..also make sure are no other lines with that module listed, save the file | 19:31 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, ^ | 19:31 |
BluesKaj | this module , snd_hda_intel ..no 0 in front | 19:32 |
BluesKaj | this makes the module the default on your computer, rashxt , which it wasn't before ... you may need to run, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel afterwards , then reboot | 19:35 |
rashxt | ok trying..... | 19:35 |
soee | someone tried KDe 4.8 b1 already ? | 19:35 |
rashxt | here's my alsamodule conf: http://pastebin.com/aNFPZ6EB | 19:35 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, did you add , options snd_hda_intel index=0 ? | 19:37 |
BluesKaj | soee, it's abit soon , what's the rush anyway ? | 19:39 |
WinCamXP-Phone | hello, I installed the normal KDE package on ubuntu 11.10, and it boots fine, but after a minute or so the display stops updating correctly | 19:42 |
WinCamXP-Phone | In order to see the changes in a window, I have to minimize abd reopen it | 19:43 |
BluesKaj | WinCamXP-Phone, normal kde package being ? | 19:43 |
WinCamXP-Phone | i cant remember, either kde-default or kde-standard | 19:43 |
WinCamXP-Phone | its on the ubuntu repos | 19:43 |
BluesKaj | WinCamXP-Phone, install kubuntu-desktop | 19:44 |
WinCamXP-Phone | should i uninstall the one I used? | 19:44 |
BluesKaj | no | 19:44 |
WinCamXP-Phone | then should the pictures update correctly? | 19:44 |
BluesKaj | pictures? | 19:45 |
rashxt | BluesKaj: ty audio is back | 19:45 |
WinCamXP-Phone | because it installed all of the default kde programs and such | 19:45 |
BluesKaj | rashxt, good | 19:45 |
WinCamXP-Phone | I'm not at my computer, but windows stopped updating and I have to minimize and restore to see changes | 19:46 |
WinCamXP-Phone | which is almost unusable, especially on the K menu thing | 19:46 |
BluesKaj | WinCamXP-Phone, , windows ? | 19:46 |
WinCamXP-Phone | any program I have open | 19:47 |
BluesKaj | WinCamXP-Phone, just install kubuntu-desktop | 19:47 |
WinCamXP-Phone | what's different between that nd what I used? | 19:47 |
WinCamXP-Phone | is the one I used "unofficial" or something? | 19:48 |
BluesKaj | it will tie everything together for you ...when kubuntu is installed , which is ubuntu with KDE kubuntu-desktop is default | 19:49 |
WinCamXP-Phone | I keep Unity if I ever need it though, right? | 19:49 |
BluesKaj | if you wish , just choose your desktop environment in the menu when you login | 19:50 |
WinCamXP-Phone | so I do NOT uninstall the kde package I have? | 19:50 |
BluesKaj | no | 19:50 |
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WinCamXP-Phone | will I have two KDE options at login then? | 19:51 |
BluesKaj | apt or the package manager will take care of any dupes for you | 19:51 |
BluesKaj | no | 19:51 |
WinCamXP-Phone | so all of the KDE apps already installed wont be installed again? | 19:52 |
BluesKaj | they will remain | 19:52 |
WinCamXP-Phone | when I get home I will do that | 19:52 |
WinCamXP-Phone | if I need any more help I will be back | 19:53 |
WinCamXP-Phone | thanks | 19:53 |
BluesKaj | ok, good luck | 19:53 |
sayakb | hi, something strange happened on my system. one of my systems was really out of date since about 2 months, so i fired it up and upgraded the packages. Then it prompted me for a dist upgrade, which i started, but it got interrupted. When i logged back in, plasma wont start, so i reconfigured all installed packages. now it says i'm on 11.10 (used lsb_release), and it also says no new updates. is there any way to check what actually happened? | 20:44 |
genii-around | sayakb: Might be something in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log | 21:00 |
BluesKaj | BBL, stuff to do | 21:12 |
mithrop | hi here | 21:16 |
mithrop | I juste have a little question. To launch kdesu, I now have to enter "$(kde4-config --path libexec)kdesu", there is a way to just enter "kdesu" ? | 21:21 |
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freemen | Hello room | 21:39 |
genii-around | mithrop: Probably make symbolic link in /usr/bin to it's location in /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu-distrib/ | 21:46 |
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mithrop | oh ok :D thank you very well :D | 21:46 |
genii-around | mithrop: kdesudo is recommended usually | 21:47 |
freemen | thank you genii | 21:47 |
BarkingFish | how do I search for which package provides what? I need the plasma widget library for the systemtray widget | 22:08 |
genii-around | BarkingFish: I usually use the web interface at packages.ubuntu.com | 22:09 |
BarkingFish | i know there's a way you can do it from the command line, can't remember it though | 22:09 |
rork | !find libplasma-widget | 22:11 |
ubottu | Package/file libplasma-widget does not exist in oneiric | 22:11 |
BarkingFish | !info plasma-widgets-workspace oneiric | 22:15 |
ubottu | plasma-widgets-workspace (source: kde-workspace): plasma widgets and containments for the KDE Plasma Workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 448 kB, installed size 2256 kB | 22:15 |
BarkingFish | !rdepends plasma-widgets-workspace | 22:15 |
Draggin | Good evening. I'm assuming since you guys use Kubuntu, someone in here might know a thing or two about Okular. Where can I find the annotations, etc. that Okular saves for documents? It's obviously not stored in the PDF itself, but I'd like to copy a particular file's annotations etc. over to a new computer that I'm using now - where do I look? | 22:57 |
Draggin | Nevermind - just found the info in the FAQ :) | 22:59 |
Draggin | Thanks ;) | 22:59 |
Draggin | Out | 23:14 |
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photon | Can I install Firefox and Thunderbird in Kubuntu if I don't want to use the standard web/email clients? | 23:43 |
bazhang | of course | 23:43 |
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