=== pierce_ is now known as PIerceNicholas === drewis is now known as drewis|gonetillS === drewis|gonetillS is now known as drewisgonefornow [01:43] ok, not a kubuntu or kde excatly topic, but i like the search and launch optin in kde, anybody know of a lighter wieght windows manager that is similar to that funciton for some of my slower boxes? === zeroedout_ is now known as zeroedout === andy_ is now known as Guest42013 [02:03] will Kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version also be supported for 5 years just as Ubuntu 12.04? [02:06] photon: desktop LTS versions are supported for 3 years [02:07] szal: not the case with Ubuntu 12.04. that's why I'm asking. [02:07] photon: yes, with Ubuntu too.. 5 years is for the server [02:08] szal: again, not with 12.04. [02:08] photon: who told you that? [02:09] szal: Canonical did. http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-feature-extended-support-period-desktop-users [02:12] interesting [02:13] And since Canonical will force Unity down our throats with 12.04, and gnome-fallback will be dropped, I'm looking for an alternative that does not use Unity. So far Debian, Linux Mint, and Xubuntu/Kubuntu come to mind. I'm basically looking for a long term support/stable release I can use for years. [02:13] centos [02:19] photon: we have not decided yet. we are going to meet with the tech board soon. re: 5 or 3 year lts [02:29] Darkwing: I see. Well, it'd be a huge plus, especially for people who want to move away from standard Ubuntu versions. [02:31] unity seems 10feet tall [02:31] ish [02:34] photon. yes, we are putting together a proposal for the tech board. by we I mean the kubuntu council. when we figure it all out, ill make sure a note makes it to kubuntu.org and ill tweet about it. [02:34] that'd be awesome, thanks Darkwing. [02:34] yup. I'm @dwonderly and ill note updates there too. [02:35] anything else we can do while I'm lurking about? :) [02:36] configure my asterisk server [02:36] lol good luck. ;) [02:37] darkwing ninja ducks are chicken [02:37] heh. I want my old nick back. :( [05:31] sence with mbr can only have 4 primary partitions and having to make an extended partition for more then 4... And gpt can have more then 4 prrimary.... is there any other ups or downs [05:32] TheBuntu: if you plan to dual boot or such, gpt can be a pita with windows [05:34] Peppermint`Schna: just going to run kubuntu for now... Then maybe later on a 2nd hdd.. win7... but use the bios boot menu to choose between drives [05:35] and i noticed in gparted thens other partition tables [05:35] there's... not then...lol [05:36] TheBuntu: yea there are many different partitioning options, most are not useful to the average person [05:38] bsd is for bsd right... mac for mac... [05:39] if you are realy looking for something else, id look at zfs [05:40] i thought that was a bsd file system [05:41] nope [05:43] how do i get it.. i dont see it in gparted [05:43] unless its the 1 that says sun.. sence it made by sun [05:44] its a fuse [05:44] user space, it runs on top [05:45] ohh [05:45] so its not a partition table then [05:46] reading a wiki on the web... In computing, ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed by Sun Microsystems. [05:46] yea [05:48] ohh ok... so i use mbr or gpt.... then insted of ext4... use zfs [05:48] yup [05:48] so its better then ext4 [05:49] much so, but mainly for multi disk systems [05:49] it still has better backing up and recovery then ext4, but the performace for it is lower on single disk [05:50] so useing 1 500 gig hdd... zfs is going to preform slower then ext4 [05:51] give or take [05:51] what are you useing [05:55] can someone help me with my issues with ampache?? everything appears to be setup correctly but i go to http://localhost/ampache and it gives me a 404 error.. yet when i go to it without the /ampache it loads the page apache comes with saying it works.. so it has to be something with configurations or ampache.. [05:59] what about btrfs [06:07] no idea, no experiance with it [06:14] Does any body know how to disable akonadi? I really do not know some significant meaning of it on kde. [06:25] ok, this is confusing, why does PackageName conflict with PackageName [universe] ? where PackageName is ALL packages [06:26] this might be the source of the WTH dependancy hell im in [06:27] (and some packages are listed as multiverse instead of universe) [06:27] and yes, my sources.list is default (just doubled checked that) [06:48] So how is Dwarf Fortress for Linux? [07:07] hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help? [07:07] I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3 === bitnami is now known as HaPirate [07:18] Just installed Kubuntu desktop. Lovin it. Need help with screen res. Anyone? [07:29] hi everyone, i have the latest kmail from the ubuntu repos - that is kmail 2 and suddenly every email i try to send stays in the outbox and does not get sent out. Can anyone help? I am on Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3. [07:30] I would suspect server settings / status at first .. [07:30] is the server working with those settings with another client or are you otherwise very certain that the options are correct? [07:32] If not so can you test the sending with another server -- for example google server -- if that also fails, then there is problem with the program or the usage of it [08:55] Using KMail2, I´m unable to read my e-mails. The preview just says that it is syncing folders although I´m having POP3 e-mail account... Any hints? === af_ is now known as Guest47535 === Cassio is now known as Guest84857 [10:12] I've got an interesting question, and I'm not sure if it can be answered... [10:12] I've got a program called KShutdown installed on my system as a shutdown management timer. I set the timer's date and time and at that point, it tells the system to shutdown, restart, etc. [10:13] By default, it comes with a series of notices available: 2 hours, 1 hour, 30 minutes, 5 minutes and 1 minute. I want to find out if more notices can be added, and how, if possible. [10:17] My apologies if I appear to be "flooding" but I'd like any pertinent information possible. === ragnarok is now known as SuibaruX [10:55] Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly) === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch [13:02] Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it [13:12] Hey. I go at system > additional drivers and i see 2 options for my gpu: 1) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver 2) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates). [13:12] what to get? [13:14] Hi all [13:15] hi === yofel_ is now known as yofel === root is now known as Guest99113 [13:56] hola a tod@s [14:03] hello where to get help for qt embedded development on STmicroelectronics SPEAr processor [14:03] ? [14:10] tomy_, not here , look for a qt dev chat room [14:11] tomy_, ldo your own search please [14:15] I have a question about the Unity Interface. [14:15] yofel, may i ask you a question? [14:16] juren: KDE has nothing to do w/ Unity [14:18] I understand . . . I'm just trying to get some backgound and understand why Unity was developed. [14:19] That's ok, I will try this on another channel. [14:19] juren: #ubuntu-offtopic [14:19] bye for now [14:20] hallo [14:20] is it a good idea to use 64bit square flash on ubuntu rather than the default package? [14:20] i am arabic === mohammadetakie is now known as AleppoMohammad [14:21] '\\ [14:22] !arabic | AleppoMohammad [14:22] AleppoMohammad: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [14:22] ubuntu arabic [14:22] is for trolls [14:22] thanex [14:22] fuck you [14:22] fuck the prophet [14:22] fuck islam [14:23] DemonWitch: shut it now [14:23] now go ahead, have a good day [14:23] szal: dont interven troll [14:23] !ops [14:23] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [14:23] cry more troll [14:23] rage moar [14:24] jussi: next door too [14:24] szal: they left ;) [14:24] jussi: k :) [14:28] #ubuntu-missouri [14:28] sorry === peace is now known as Peace- [16:13] do you have the same issue when draging icon on desktop that transparency doesnt work anymore ? [16:38] * szal doesn't drag icons onto the desktop === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === simo is now known as Guest75146 === mariohaner is now known as mariohaner_afk === phdp is now known as Shinka [17:57] Hi guys, dunno if anyone's been through an update today, but I have a new kernel showing up in apper - 3.0.0.14.16 - just wondered if it's an official one, or from the proposed updates PPA i'm attached to? [17:59] its official, i got the same version yesterday and I don't have any PPAs that would give that. [17:59] I have very few PPAs added, the biggest ones being Playdeb and Getdeb [18:00] yup, getting ready for the transistion to 3,1, then 3.2 eventually on 12.04 [18:01] ah, the only ppa I have is the kubuntu one, and i also have proposed updates switched in - i wasn't sure what it was :) [18:12] hi @ all === andy_ is now known as Guest72856 [18:39] hi all [18:40] there is another application i can use to manage bootup services instead of the desfault one ? [18:41] startup&shutdown in system settings , elwood [18:42] yes but there is some stuff like eee-control that i can't manage from there [18:43] eee-control ? === ubuntu is now known as Dalthon [18:54] BluesKaj, an applet for eeepc, to manage some energetic stuff [18:54] but also i want to stop the printer server and so === Anusko_ is now known as Anusko [19:04] hi [19:04] I have no audio [19:04] after boot I got a window tells me that some audio card were removed [19:05] but this is not true , in fact I have audio card on my motherboard [19:05] now via phonon I see my audio card disabled and I can't enable [19:06] rashxt, do aplay -l , see what cars are listed [19:06] cards [19:07] BluesKaj: I see ALC660 card [19:07] HDA VIA VT82xx [19:08] ok, try this , lspci | grep -i audio [19:09] 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10) [19:13] BluesKaj: any idea? [19:17] rashxt, hang on , Im checking [19:22] rashxt, open alsamixer in a terminal, look if somethigs is switched off and check the backend of phonon in system settings [19:23] rashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice8251 [19:24] FATAL: Module snd_ice8251 not found. [19:24] elwood, his card isn't showing as default === jan_ is now known as Janneman [19:24] rashxt, sudo modprobe snd_ice8237A [19:25] oh sorry [19:25] not found this too [19:27] rashxt, ok try this ..we need to know what modules is loaded , cat /proc/asound/modules [19:27] 0 snd_hda_intel [19:28] ok we have something there === Anusko_ is now known as Anusko [19:31] open this file as root and look for that module in the list , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf . then if it is add this line, options snd_hda_intel index=0 ..also make sure are no other lines with that module listed, save the file [19:31] rashxt, ^ [19:32] this module , snd_hda_intel ..no 0 in front [19:35] this makes the module the default on your computer, rashxt , which it wasn't before ... you may need to run, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel afterwards , then reboot [19:35] ok trying..... [19:35] someone tried KDe 4.8 b1 already ? [19:35] here's my alsamodule conf: http://pastebin.com/aNFPZ6EB [19:37] rashxt, did you add , options snd_hda_intel index=0 ? [19:39] soee, it's abit soon , what's the rush anyway ? [19:42] hello, I installed the normal KDE package on ubuntu 11.10, and it boots fine, but after a minute or so the display stops updating correctly [19:43] In order to see the changes in a window, I have to minimize abd reopen it [19:43] WinCamXP-Phone, normal kde package being ? [19:43] i cant remember, either kde-default or kde-standard [19:43] its on the ubuntu repos [19:44] WinCamXP-Phone, install kubuntu-desktop [19:44] should i uninstall the one I used? [19:44] no [19:44] then should the pictures update correctly? [19:45] pictures? [19:45] BluesKaj: ty audio is back [19:45] because it installed all of the default kde programs and such [19:45] rashxt, good [19:46] I'm not at my computer, but windows stopped updating and I have to minimize and restore to see changes [19:46] which is almost unusable, especially on the K menu thing [19:46] WinCamXP-Phone, , windows ? [19:47] any program I have open [19:47] WinCamXP-Phone, just install kubuntu-desktop [19:47] what's different between that nd what I used? [19:48] is the one I used "unofficial" or something? [19:49] it will tie everything together for you ...when kubuntu is installed , which is ubuntu with KDE kubuntu-desktop is default [19:49] I keep Unity if I ever need it though, right? [19:50] if you wish , just choose your desktop environment in the menu when you login [19:50] so I do NOT uninstall the kde package I have? [19:50] no === s is now known as Guest73094 [19:51] will I have two KDE options at login then? [19:51] apt or the package manager will take care of any dupes for you [19:51] no [19:52] so all of the KDE apps already installed wont be installed again? [19:52] they will remain [19:52] when I get home I will do that [19:53] if I need any more help I will be back [19:53] thanks [19:53] ok, good luck [20:44] hi, something strange happened on my system. one of my systems was really out of date since about 2 months, so i fired it up and upgraded the packages. Then it prompted me for a dist upgrade, which i started, but it got interrupted. When i logged back in, plasma wont start, so i reconfigured all installed packages. now it says i'm on 11.10 (used lsb_release), and it also says no new updates. is there any way to check what actually happened? [21:00] sayakb: Might be something in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log [21:12] BBL, stuff to do [21:16] hi here [21:21] I juste have a little question. To launch kdesu, I now have to enter "$(kde4-config --path libexec)kdesu", there is a way to just enter "kdesu" ? === jens is now known as Guest67024 [21:39] Hello room [21:46] mithrop: Probably make symbolic link in /usr/bin to it's location in /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu-distrib/ [21:46] * genii-around slides freemen a coffee [21:46] oh ok :D thank you very well :D [21:47] mithrop: kdesudo is recommended usually [21:47] thank you genii [22:08] how do I search for which package provides what? I need the plasma widget library for the systemtray widget [22:09] BarkingFish: I usually use the web interface at packages.ubuntu.com [22:09] i know there's a way you can do it from the command line, can't remember it though [22:11] !find libplasma-widget [22:11] Package/file libplasma-widget does not exist in oneiric [22:15] !info plasma-widgets-workspace oneiric [22:15] plasma-widgets-workspace (source: kde-workspace): plasma widgets and containments for the KDE Plasma Workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 448 kB, installed size 2256 kB [22:15] !rdepends plasma-widgets-workspace [22:57] Good evening. I'm assuming since you guys use Kubuntu, someone in here might know a thing or two about Okular. Where can I find the annotations, etc. that Okular saves for documents? It's obviously not stored in the PDF itself, but I'd like to copy a particular file's annotations etc. over to a new computer that I'm using now - where do I look? [22:59] Nevermind - just found the info in the FAQ :) [22:59] Thanks ;) [23:14] Out === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli [23:43] Can I install Firefox and Thunderbird in Kubuntu if I don't want to use the standard web/email clients? [23:43] of course