| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| photon | #kubuntu+1 redirects here, that's why I ask here: will Kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version also be supported for 5 years just as Ubuntu 12.04? | 02:07 |
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| psusi | photon, yes | 02:20 |
| photon | psusi: Darkwing in #kubuntu is saying they haven't decided yet. | 02:28 |
| * penguin42 hopes it will | 02:30 | |
| penguin42 | but long term support is not easy | 02:30 |
| photon | penguin42: why do you hope it will? also planning on switching away from Unity? | 02:30 |
| penguin42 | photon: Already have on my main machine | 02:31 |
| photon | Watcha using? | 02:31 |
| penguin42 | KDE | 02:31 |
| psusi | photon, well kubuntu IS ubuntu so... maybe what they haven't decided on is supporting the desktop, i.e. the kde packages, for the full 5 instead of 3 years? | 02:31 |
| photon | maybe, psusi | 02:32 |
| photon | I tried Kubuntu about 2 years ago but it was buggy as hell for me. | 02:33 |
| psusi | photon, of course, imho, it doesn't matter much either way since the long term "support" is only security fixes | 02:33 |
| photon | that's all I'm looking for. | 02:34 |
| psusi | any desktop user should be upgrading as soon as the next lts comes out anyhow or they are still stuck with 2+ year old applications | 02:34 |
| psusi | LTS is really for server admins who don't want to break what's working and usually don't care about getting new features | 02:35 |
| penguin42 | psusi: No! | 02:35 |
| psusi | rather then 5 year part anyhow | 02:35 |
| penguin42 | psusi: Some of use LTS on work laptops | 02:36 |
| photon | as long as they work and are patched for security holes, it doesn't bother me. I have wasted so much time re-configuring and bug-hunting whenever I upgraded that I'd be glad to stay with 5 year old software if it means it's secure and WORKS. :) | 02:36 |
| photon | it's sort of like people using Win XP, even though it's quite old. | 02:36 |
| psusi | not really... because they may still be running xp, but they have upgraded all of the applications they care about | 02:36 |
| penguin42 | psusi: I run (besides other stuff) a bunch of apps that I need to run for work, and I can't be bothered fighting to see if thyey can be made to work on latest; at home I run latest | 02:38 |
| psusi | penguin42, that makes sense to me for using LTS instead of the 6 month releases... but you can't be bothered to ugprade to the next LTS every 2 years? | 02:41 |
| penguin42 | psusi: Oh yeh, I'm fine with that | 02:41 |
| psusi | I mean, a lot changes in 2 years... sticking with say, 6 releases behind of firefox is kinda.... ick | 02:41 |
| penguin42 | yeh, I just get good old 3.whatever with whatever security fixes they gave it recently | 02:43 |
| photon | penguin42: from your experience, how's Kubuntu? are you happy with it? | 02:46 |
| penguin42 | photon: Yep | 02:47 |
| penguin42 | photon: I'm still running the Oneiric Kubuntu on that machine; heavy web browsing, dev, playing music; sometimes gets a little confused with PA, but hey that's PA | 02:47 |
| bjsnider | lts releases are also for people who want to wait until stuff like unity is more mature before switching | 02:51 |
| bjsnider | non-lts releases aren't always stable | 02:51 |
| micahg | psusi: precise will stay on rapid release for Firefox | 02:55 |
| psusi | micahg, you mean abandon SRU philosophy? | 03:05 |
| photon | penguin42: cool. in what way confused with PA? Does it crash? .. and have you ever tried Xubuntu? | 03:05 |
| micahg | psusi: Firefox has a microrelease exception | 03:05 |
| micahg | psusi: with a 6 week release and support cadence, we don't have another option | 03:05 |
| psusi | micahg, interesting... that is the only exception? | 03:05 |
| micahg | psusi: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions | 03:05 |
| * psusi still does't understand why mozilla decided to push a release every 6 weeks... | 03:05 | |
| penguin42 | psusi: Probably because they have to do the security updates anyway | 03:06 |
| bjsnider | it's a violation of the rule of major release numbers | 03:06 |
| bjsnider | they're doing patch releases and changing the major number | 03:06 |
| psusi | penguin42, yea, but the whole reason you do security updates is to avoid causing breakage by merging all of the new features too | 03:06 |
| penguin42 | indeed | 03:06 |
| psusi | bjsnider, yea, that is what it seems like to me too | 03:06 |
| micahg | psusi: http://blog.johnath.com/2011/07/18/every-six-weeks/ | 03:06 |
| bjsnider | i don't know if that's an "official" rule or not, but they shouldn't be changing the major number without adding major new features or changes | 03:06 |
| psusi | an uppdate every 6 weeks is one thing... but bumping the major number every time? wtf? | 03:06 |
| psusi | micahg, the cadence makes sense to me... bumping the major rev each time does not | 03:06 |
| psusi | I mean we've gone from version 4 to version 8... in a year or two we'll be at what? 27? | 03:06 |
| micahg | we're at chromium 15 already | 03:07 |
| psusi | that's nuts | 03:07 |
| bjsnider | yes but everything google codes is marked beta so they've got an excuse | 03:24 |
| bjsnider | i'm using chromium 17 | 03:24 |
| === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan | ||
| === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC | ||
| dr3mro | hello guys.. will ubuntu 11.04 feature full migration to dconf ? | 05:08 |
| dr3mro | gtk3 ? | 05:08 |
| dr3mro | hello guys.. will ubuntu 12.04 feature full migration to dconf ? gtk3 ? | 05:09 |
| === Pilif12p is now known as Tannerbaum | ||
| === kroschi_ is now known as kroschi | ||
| FernandoMiguel | how can there be no updates in the last 12h ? | 10:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | are the build servers down? | 10:04 |
| geser | I just did an upgrade and there where updated packages | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:14 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| sagaci | hi BluesKaj | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | hi sagaci | 14:17 |
| genii-around | Nice, the previously weird edges and scrollbars of gtk apps under kubuntu is fixed after this last update. | 16:03 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around, I'm finding 12.04 has fixed quite a few issue I had with kde windows "look" and fonts etc | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | fewer plasma crashes | 16:05 |
| genii-around | BluesKaj: Up to yesterday they were looking like this for me: http://imagebin.org/185443 | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | right , i use a very simple theme for both desktop and windows appearance due to themes inablilty to play nice on plasma without crashing | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around, ^ | 16:37 |
| genii-around | Right now I'm using "Glassified" , all seems well | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | my desktop effects settings might affect plasma's stability too | 16:39 |
| BluesKaj | i'm using the gt7600 you sent me, on this pc , an entry level dual core amd64 cpu | 16:41 |
| === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle | ||
| BluesKaj | the 7600gt works very well for this TV , dvi to hdmi , genii-around | 16:43 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| genii-around | BluesKaj: Here's a shot of my current desktop with some things open for illustrative purposes | 16:59 |
| genii-around | http://imagebin.org/185447 | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | looks cool and clean genii-around :) | 17:04 |
| genii-around | BluesKaj: I'm pretty happy with it for now. You can tell they've done quite a lot of work improving the network widget. I have it open to show that if you set the interface in /etc/network/interfaces it won't show thoroughput | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around was going upload to imagebin but due to the size of the desktop image , it's a no-go ..using our plasma tv as a monitor | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around, resized the image ...it might still be a bit large http://imagebin.org/185453 | 17:14 |
| BluesKaj | genii-around, this one has /home/user dolphin http://imagebin.org/185455 | 17:29 |
| BluesKaj | simple look for stability ...I haven't tried any themes with alot of contrasts , they seem cause plasma crashes on my setup | 17:30 |
| genii-around | BluesKaj: Nice | 17:42 |
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| BluesKaj | BBL, stuff to do | 21:12 |
| * alex_mayorga wonders how many laptops are seriously malfunctioning on Pangolin | 22:36 | |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: In which particular way (haven't tried it) | 23:26 |
| === jakemp-laptop is now known as jakemp | ||
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