[00:05] <philipballew> !vpn
[00:14] <webPragmatist> how do i address this sendmail error
[00:14] <webPragmatist> WARNING: local host name (...) is not qualified
[00:17] <webPragmatist> weird
[00:18] <Mum29> Change your hostname maybe
[00:18] <Mum29> Check the server is connected to the net as well
[00:26] <webPragmatist> Mum29: ya that was it… now i am having a differred error
[00:26] <Mum29> Post it
[00:26] <webPragmatist> i can send to like my google domain but i can't send to the localdomain i am sending from
[00:26] <webPragmatist> http://pastie.textmate.org/private/bv6glytvvaaaj6csxbxqwg
[00:26] <Mum29> send to localdomain from local domain, that sounds a bit strange
[00:26] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: any reason you're using sendmail ?
[00:27] <webPragmatist> kinda just because it was the first thing i got working
[00:28] <Mum29> I use a external mail service for all our mail needs, 2-3 bucks a month and you can remove all mail stuff from the server and use its ressources for better stuff
[00:28] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: sendmail does not get much favor with ubuntu. Most users prefer postfix or exim
[00:28] <SpamapS> Mum29: many programs still want to run /usr/bin/sendmail instead of connect to an external SMTP server
[00:28] <SpamapS> Mum29: tho for that, there's ssmtp. :)
[00:29] <Mum29> extra s in there than im used too. google is good
[00:29] <Mum29> Sure, but i get no errors in the logs about. the php scripts i use works with smtp server and pw
[00:30] <Mum29> Btw while im here, something i wanted to ask some experts about for a long time. I run this command on all my setups. Sometimes with imagick, apc or xcache, but stream downed it looks like this.
[00:30] <Mum29> sudo apt-get install apache2 curl mcrypt mysql-common mysql-client mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql phpmyadmin php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-common php5-cli php5-cgi php5-curl php5-gd php5-mcrypt php5-mysql php-pear
[00:31] <Mum29> Is there something thats not needed in there or something i can do to optimise the setup on a command level ?
[00:37] <webPragmatist> SpamapS: ah this is much easier to setup
[00:39] <webPragmatist> mor importantly it works heh
[00:39] <SpamapS> Mum29: mysql-common is not needed, it will be pulled in by mysql-client and mysql-server
[00:39] <Mum29> Thx SpamapS
[00:39] <SpamapS> Mum29: also why do you have php5-cgi?
[00:40] <SpamapS> anyway, time to disconnect from the net for a while and experience the "real" world. :)
[00:40] <Mum29> Not really sure. phpBB3 or wordpress wont really need it. Oh and i have that a2seXX something for .htaccess
[00:40]  * SpamapS disappears
[00:40] <Mum29> Enjoy
[00:40] <l0n> mum29, prob not what you're after but, if you use a simpler list e.g. install apache2, you can combine it with --no-install-recommends to only install the min packages needed
[00:42] <Mum29> Mm not a bad idea, even though i think the software i run needs most of it. but php info has alot of versions of software. That command wont not install of those. Just the apt-get packages that apache2 nornally includes
[00:44] <l0n> yeah, you would have to use --no-install-recommends on all the major packages to see if you're adding anything that isn't needed
[00:46] <Mum29> wouldt apt-get apache2 mysql-server --no-install-recommends do that on all packages included in the comman ?
[00:48] <l0n> not sure, give it a go, it should ask you to confirm before actually doing anything so you can have a look at the packages before it installs
[00:50] <Mum29> Sure forgot that, but thanks didnt think of that option
[05:11] <kaushal> Hi
[05:11] <kaushal> Any clue about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/747876/ ?
[05:12] <kaushal> this server also has high %wa
[05:12] <TimR> does anybody know how I can test a dial up modem inside command line?
[05:12] <kaushal> Any clue ?
[05:12] <kaushal> is it due to failing Hard Drive issue ?
[05:13] <kaushal> 10.04.1 LTS
[05:14] <patdk-lap> well %wa says your disks aren't responding quick enough
[05:14] <patdk-lap> what your paste is, I dunno
[05:14] <kaushal> is there a way to find out which process hogs high %wa ?
[05:15] <patdk-lap> ever think about trying smartdrv on your disks to check them?
[05:15] <kaushal> ok
[05:15] <twb> TimR: screen /dev/ttyS0 115200, send an ATZ
[05:16] <kaushal> patdk-lap: smartdrv ?
[05:16] <patdk-lap> in smartmontools I think
[05:16] <l0n> kaushal, you can see disk usage by getting the kernel to log it using sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump"
[05:16] <kaushal> l0n: ok
[05:17] <l0n> but only leave it going for a little bit if you have high %wa
[05:17] <l0n> disable it by echoing 0
[05:17] <kaushal> so do i need to look for dmesg after running sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump" ?
[05:17] <l0n> prob would appear in dmesg output but I normally look at /var/log/messages
[05:17] <kaushal> ok
[05:19] <l0n> also, with smartmontools, if you can't see anything obviously wrong, run a long test
[05:20] <kaushal> l0n: sure and thanks
[05:25] <l0n> On a side note, if anyone is looking for a really good script to show disk usage per process, this looks really good although I haven't personally tried it: http://www.zarafa.com/wiki/index.php/Monitoring_Disk_IO_per_process
[05:27]  * patdk-lap just uses iotop
[05:27]  * patdk-lap continues the rsync, that just won't end
[05:27] <greppy> TimR: minicom should let you test a modem.
[05:28] <patdk-lap> I figure it will take rsync a month atleast to copy this data
[05:29] <l0n> I've had problems with iotop because of it using a certain verison of python, not sure if that was on Ubuntu though
[05:29] <patdk-lap> problems?
[05:30] <patdk-lap> the only issue I have ever had, was attempting to use it on old dead kernels, and I have discontinued them
[05:31] <l0n> yeah, don't think old kernels had the ability to monitor disk usage but issues I've had is that it just doesn't work because of some issue with python
[05:31] <patdk-lap> some issue with python? I don't use python
[05:31] <patdk-lap> :)
[05:31] <l0n> iotop uses python :)
[05:36] <TimR> does anybody know how to install the drivers for the intel 537ep chip set dial up modem
[05:37] <twb> patdk-lap: I use iostat fwiw
[05:37] <twb> greppy: you don't need minicom; screen is (probably) already installed, and can speak serial all on its own
[05:40] <dork> hi
[05:53] <DanaG> har, in many times, it's faster to ship a hard drive than to send over the internet.
[05:54] <twb> DanaG: that has been the case since 1963
[06:14] <dork> hi
[07:01] <kaushal> patdk-lap: hi again
[07:02] <kaushal> i see flush-8:0              468      19792          2      19790          0 sda1
[07:02] <kaushal> in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/747924/
[07:02] <kaushal> Any clue ?
[08:47] <Puck`> hi everyone
[08:48] <Puck`> could anyone send me off to some documentation where I could read about setting up ubuntu server with media playback capabilities? I want to play a stream on the server, no X
[08:49] <twb> mplayer -vo null -ao alsa foo.mp3
[08:49] <twb> Or mpd or xmms2
[08:50] <Puck`> hmm, thank you twb
[08:50] <twb> mpd is simple, xmms2 is flexible
[08:50] <Puck`> I'll go with mpd then
[08:50] <twb> mplayer and vlc are more if you just want to play a file now, mpd/xmms2 are more about wanting a playlist
[08:51] <Puck`> I want to plaay a stream, icecast one
[08:51] <twb> streamripper then, perhaps
[08:51] <twb> Or just mplayer -playlist http://example.net/foo.m3u
[08:51] <twb> http://cyber.com.au/~twb/.bin/radio is what I do, specifically
[08:51] <Puck`> that'll do, I think I just messed up, I installed mplayer with everything, so I think Gnome is being installed now, mhm, no worries, I'll start from the beginning
[08:52] <twb> mplayer builds on ubuntu are probably stupid
[08:52] <twb> my mplayer stuff is on debian so I'm not sure
[08:52] <koolhead11> hi all
[08:53] <Puck`> maybe I'll go with a debian netinstallation, which package do I need to be able to hear the sound? Alsa?
[09:07] <jamespage> morning all
[09:07] <Takyoji> I know it sounds like a stupid question, but: what's the "safest" way to reboot a system via command line?
[09:08] <Takyoji> I've been doing "reboot -f now", but I get a feeling as if it's SIGKILLing everything or something
[09:09] <Takyoji> ahh, just 'reboot' I guess. xP
[09:14] <koolhead11> morning jamespage
[09:18] <eagles0513875> !a2ensite
[09:21] <koolhead11> hola lynxman
[09:23] <eagles0513875> hey koolhead11
[09:23] <eagles0513875> koolhead11: dunno why kool aid popped into my head :p
[10:12] <james538227> hey has anyone had any luck with ralink rt2860 driver connecting to router using wpa/wp2 encryption on ubuntu server?
[10:19] <lynxman> morning o/
[10:41] <koolhead11> hey lynxman
[10:54] <uksysadmin> I've been editing my preseed files and for some reason now my late_command section isn't being executed.  no errors in the logs - just a bit weird.  Does the preseed file have a finite length? Does it get downloaded on the system for me to interrogate to see if its got all the right stuff in?
[11:06] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: you have to check via syslog
[11:06] <koolhead11> atleast that is what i used while using preseed and deploying the stuff
[11:10] <uksysadmin> yeah /var/log/installer/syslog - just doesn't have anything abotu any command being run.  it could be because of an extra \ I added for some reason... just trying again.  23rd time's a charm.
[11:12] <uksysadmin> I'm nearly there with what I wanted to achieve though - 1) to understand pxebooting and preseeding with Ubuntu and 2) booting a new nova-compute node using this process
[11:13] <uksysadmin> I'll then look at whether or not its the "right way" to do this... I do feel compelled to get this working by doing juju stuff.
[11:13] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: but you can do the same using Juju
[11:13] <koolhead11> instead late command in preseed
[11:13] <uksysadmin> do you have an example - would love to see how it gets done.
[11:17] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure :D
[11:19]  * uksysadmin has no response to the RTFM ;-)
[11:21] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: in that case you will keep hitting against wall, can`t help sirr. :D
[11:22] <uksysadmin> no - its good! Thanks!
[11:23] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: i remember my 1st night at IRC i been told more than 7 times RTFM and i never knew what it meant, google was not there and yahoo search could not answer me well. :P
[11:24] <uksysadmin> :)
[11:25] <uksysadmin> well my scripts and preseed now all work
[11:25] <uksysadmin> (extra \ in late command bit)
[11:25] <uksysadmin> I can now boot extra compute nodes! :)
[11:25] <uksysadmin> now to destroy all that and do it the proper way
[11:25] <koolhead11> uksysadmin: bahhhhh.
[11:25]  * koolhead11 kicks uksysadmin 
[11:31] <uksysadmin> bbl
[12:22]  * koolhead11 planning 4 beer meditation.
[12:50] <linocisco> hi. who is using Zentyal server. ?? is a renamed version of Ebox based on ubuntu
[12:55] <linocisco> I would like somebody to share real experience of Zentyal
[12:57] <lool> RoAkSoAx: Hey, cobbler-common ships a template in /exists; this seems to be a typo in the .install file
[13:01] <koolhead11> I don't need VT enabled h/w to run LXC, correct me if am wrong.
[13:05] <lool> RoAkSoAx: fix uploaded
[13:56] <RoAkSoAx> lool yes it was a typo thanks for taking care of it
[13:57] <zul> good morning
[14:06] <lynxman> zul: good morning sir
[14:06] <lynxman> RoAkSoAx: morning to you too ;)
[14:07] <zul> hey lynxman
[15:01] <Khas> Hello.  I'm running a server with a public IP, and I'm trying to set up a bridge for openvpn.  Is this possible, or do I need an intermediate virtual interface to do the DHCP for the vpn?
[15:08] <SpamapS> Khas: the server has a real IP on one interface, and a non-routable IP on the other?
[15:13] <Khas> There is only one interface current, eht0, with a public IP.
[15:13] <qman__> you have to have somewhere to VPN to
[15:13] <Khas> Ah yes, sorry.
[15:13] <Khas> That will be tap0
[15:13] <qman__> no, as in somewhere to reach with the VPN
[15:13] <Khas> So what I've read suggests creating br0 between tap0 and eth0
[15:13] <qman__> you can't VPN to the internet
[15:13] <Khas> Ah I see.
[15:13] <qman__> well, you could, but it would be pointless
[15:14] <qman__> what is it you're actually trying to achieve?
[15:15] <Khas> I've got a routed vpn set up just now, but I want the server to use dnsmasq to issue the VPN addresses (10.8.0.0/24).
[15:15] <Khas> Then I can set it up so I can access the machines behind the VPN with host.vpn.mydomain.com
[15:15] <qman__> I mean overall, what scenario is this trying to solve?
[15:16] <qman__> a machine with only one interface, directly on the internet, has nowhere to VPN to, it's a bit silly
[15:16] <Khas> Roadwarrior setup where I can access each remote machines with a name.
[15:17] <Khas> Ah no, you are confused.
[15:17] <Khas> The server is the VPN server.
[15:17] <Khas> It is what everything else VPNs -to-.
[15:17] <qman__> ok, that makes more sense
[15:17] <Khas> So it creates a tap0 that listens for incoming connections.
[15:18] <Khas> I need to bridge that tap0 to eth0 to get out on the the internet.
[15:18] <qman__> but, in that case, unless I'm mistaken, you need to use routed VPN to create the network the machines communicate on
[15:18] <Khas> But I want br0 and each vpn client to be issued a LAN IP by dnsmasq
[15:18] <Khas> Nah, layer 2 bridging works too.
[15:18] <Khas> Here's the method I'm following: http://maverick.homelinux.net/blog/?p=196
[15:18] <greppy> do you really need a bridge, or just an iptables nat?
[15:19] <SpamapS> Khas: so it has one eth0, with a real and a fake address?
[15:19] <Khas> eth0 only has one address, which is real.
[15:19] <SpamapS> Khas: I'm trying to figure out where these servers are
[15:19] <qman__> you need to have some interface with the VPN address on it
[15:19] <qman__> real or virtual
[15:20] <Khas> At present, using routing, tun0 is created with the LAN address
[15:20] <Khas> 10.8.0.21
[15:20] <Khas> 10.8.0.1 even.  This is using the standard ubuntu openvpn howto
[15:21] <qman__> but using tap, the tap interface doesn't get an IP
[15:21] <qman__> you need to bridge to the 'internal' interface, whether that's eth1 or a virtual interface like eth0:1
[15:22] <SpamapS> you can't really bridge onto an alias.. since they'd have the same MAC
[15:22] <qman__> true
[15:22] <qman__> I don't see this working with a tap/bridged configuration
[15:23] <Khas> Well that was my original question, do I need an intermediate virtual interface to make it work.
[15:23] <Khas> At present, I can ifup br0, but then the server doesn't respond to any connections heh
[15:24] <qman__> I think you should stick with tun/routed and just route whatever it is you need to get through
[15:24] <SpamapS> Khas: explain where you want the packets to flow.. is it.. from the internet to your VPN clients?
[15:26] <Khas> Ok.  I have a machine, zeus, which is my home machine.  It connects to the vpn, and uses tunneling to tunnel all traffic through the vpn.  However, I may want to access some services on zeus from outside.  I would like to access them through zeus.mydomain.com for example/.
[15:27] <Khas> The easiest way to do that is to use dnsmasq to maintain the list of LAN IP > hostnames.
[15:27] <Khas> To get dnsmasq to do that, it needs to provide the LAN IPs, -not- OpenVPN
[15:27] <Khas> Which requires a layer 2 openvpn connection.
[15:28] <qman__> I don't know if what you want is possible without a second interface
[15:28] <Khas> Which is why I was following that blog entry I posted. :-)
[15:28] <qman__> I do know that untangle can use DHCP reservations for openVPN clients
[15:28] <Khas> Well technically tap0 is the virtual interface to the VPN
[15:28] <qman__> which you could then use static DNS or hosts files
[15:29] <Khas> I'm not sure how many clients may eventually connect to my vpn though
[15:29] <Khas> Which is why I'd like it dynamic.
[15:29] <qman__> you have to hand out keys for each client anyway
[15:29] <SpamapS> Khas: so dnsmasq would be running on zeus, to help you access.. zeus? And all clients would be sending their DNS queries accross the VPN to zeus?
[15:30] <qman__> setting up a DHCP reservation could be done at the same time, in the same script
[15:30] <Khas> No. zeus is a client.  Call the server olympos or something :-P
[15:31] <Khas> qman__: you don't need to use separate keys.
[15:31] <Khas> It's preferable to, but you don't have to.
[15:32] <SpamapS> jibel: I responded to bug 894377 ...
[15:32] <SpamapS> jibel: I think the test needs to be changed to test 5.5
[15:55] <cr3> I see cloud images for precise on AWS but there's no http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/, at what point should there be cloud images for precise there?
[16:08] <jibel> SpamapS, in mail.log there is "main.log:2011-11-24 12:35:04,955 DEBUG Upgrade [...] mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1 [...]" so I think it upgrades mysql-server or is there something with the resolver ?
[16:08] <jibel> *main.log
[16:47] <SpamapS> jibel: Not sure. Where could I find the test code?
[16:54] <jibel> SpamapS, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/update-manager/precise/files/head:/AutoUpgradeTester/, good luck with that ;)
[16:54] <jibel> SpamapS, rather than spending hours on the code, let me know if I can do further testing
[16:55] <SpamapS> wait what?
[17:03] <zul> jamespage: lemme know when you are around
[17:03] <jamespage> zul: I am but not for long
[17:03] <zul> jamespage: alright ill bug you tomorrow then
[17:03] <jamespage> zul: OK
[17:15] <koolhead17> hi all
[17:25] <sKeiths> i can't boot my server anymore after an upgrade. its exactly like a forum poster http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690498. his solution involved purging and redoing grub, but in the article on howto purge grub it says first to check boot info script for obvios discrepancies. my problem is i wouldn't know what to look for as discrepancies so i uploaded results http://paste.ubuntu.com/748402/
[17:26] <SpamapS> jibel: ahh, ok, I think this is just a transition problem ... mysql-server-5.1 won't exist in 12.04
[17:55] <eagles0513875> !xen
[17:56] <eagles0513875> thats where the documentation is O_o
[17:57] <RoAkSoAx> lynxman: lol morning.. im off today its thanksgiving here
[17:59] <eagles0513875> anyone have xen running on 11.10
[18:27] <sKeiths> hmm, i still have no idea what i am doing. i removed legacy grub and installed grub2. now i reboot and only get to a grub> prompt. i type ls and i can see my Node2-root. how do i command grub to boot from that location?
[18:36] <linocisco> is there any documentation for enterprise level server deployment guide for windows users ?
[18:41] <genii-around> linocisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/  is a good overall guide no matter what OS you are coming from
[18:41] <linocisco> genii-around: I am sorry. thanks anyway you dont get it.
[18:42] <linocisco> genii-around: I am meaning to deploy enterprise servers at back end and windows clients at front end
[18:43] <genii-around> I believe that's covered in Chapter 17
[18:46] <linocisco> genii-around: As far as I know, samba PDCs are able to support only 500 users , right ??
[18:50] <genii-around> I'm not sure of the top-end limit. Are you running the Windows boxes as thin clients or are they standalone?
[18:51] <patdk-lap> heh? your still running nt 4.0?
[18:57] <linocisco> genii-around: they are standalone. but at least XP version and above. Not NT or Not 3.11
[18:57] <genii-around> I think NT still had bottom count of 3,000 or so
[18:58] <linocisco> btw, how to paste image here ??
[18:58] <genii-around> As far as I know there is no upper limit for users, just whatever your physical hardware can support serving simultaneously.
[18:59] <linocisco> I mean upload site like pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:59] <genii-around> Probably to use imagebin.org
[19:01] <linocisco> genii-around:  thanks
[19:41] <mstaessen> Hi All!
[19:41] <koo1> hey
[19:41] <mstaessen> Could somebody help me? I want to set up two NICS on a single ubuntu server machine
[19:42] <mstaessen> but when i try to bing up eth1, I get a RTNETLINK File exists message
[19:42] <mstaessen> eth1 never comes up
[19:43] <mstaessen> $ sudo ifup eth1
[19:43] <mstaessen>     ==> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:43] <mstaessen> Failed to bring up eth1.
[19:44] <mstaessen> I have no clue and I can't seem to find anything useful on the internet...
[19:46] <l0n> mstaessen, Google says: "ifdown eth1:1; ifdown eth1; ifup eth1"
[19:46] <mstaessen> It's not a virtual interface
[19:47] <mstaessen> so this does not apply, I guess
[19:47] <l0n> well, try doing an ifdown then ifup
[19:47] <l0n> just a straight ifdown eth1 rather than eth1:1
[19:47] <mstaessen> then I get
[19:47] <mstaessen> sudo ifdown eth1
[19:47] <mstaessen> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[19:47] <mstaessen> which seems logical as it is never brought up
[19:48] <l0n> idd, that's fine, now try ifuping
[19:48] <mstaessen> but then again, I can't bring it up :)
[19:48] <mstaessen> sudo ifup eth1
[19:48] <mstaessen> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:48] <mstaessen> Failed to bring up eth1.
[19:48] <patdk-lap> try doing an ifconfig eth1 down, first
[19:48] <patdk-lap> maybe the status file exist saying it's up
[19:49] <mstaessen> sudo ifconfig eth1 down && sudo ifup eth1
[19:49] <mstaessen> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:49] <mstaessen> Failed to bring up eth1.
[19:49] <mstaessen> Just the same...
[19:49] <l0n> are you able to bring it up manually using ifconfig?
[19:49] <mstaessen> you mean running ifconfig eth1 up?
[19:50] <rmozden> I have a complex dns question to ask.   I've set up dns internally on this box that also acts as my nat router.  The internet facing is supposed to have a .us address and internally I'm using .int as the domain suffix.
[19:50] <l0n> no, something like 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0'
[19:50] <mstaessen> ok, I'll try
[19:51] <rmozden> basically, how do I tell my server that it also has wolverine as the sub-domain name within the lookup/reverse lookup?
[19:52] <mstaessen> I ran 'sudo ifconfig eth1 193.190.253.82 netmask 255.255.255.248 up' but it did not come up
[19:52] <l0n> try without the up at the end, you just want to set the IP, that should be enough to bring it up
[19:52] <mstaessen> ok
[19:54] <mstaessen> sudo ifup eth1
[19:54] <mstaessen> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[19:55] <rmozden> what does ifconfig show currently?  Is eth1 listed?
[19:56] <rmozden> my other question to that would be ( since I came in late) is this a laptop?
[19:56] <mstaessen> eth1 is indeed listed
[19:56] <mstaessen> it's an ubuntu server with two NICs
[19:57] <l0n> is the IP listed under eth1?
[19:57] <mstaessen> it an HP Proliant ;)
[19:57] <l0n> that you configured using ifconfig
[19:57] <mstaessen> yes it is
[19:57] <l0n> can you ping it?
[19:57] <rmozden> then the adapter is live already and cannot be brought to an up status
[19:57] <mstaessen> from localhost or another machine?
[19:58] <l0n> another machine
[19:59] <mstaessen> I cannot from another machine, but I can from localhost
[19:59] <mstaessen> there also is no entry of eth1 in /etc/network/run
[20:00] <mstaessen> btw, this is my routing table
[20:00] <mstaessen> route -n
[20:00] <mstaessen> Kernel IP routing table
[20:00] <mstaessen> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[20:00] <mstaessen> 0.0.0.0         10.48.8.126     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[20:00] <mstaessen> 10.48.8.64      0.0.0.0         255.255.255.192 U     0      0        0 eth0
[20:00] <mstaessen> 193.190.253.80  0.0.0.0         255.255.255.248 U     0      0        0 eth1
[20:00] <mstaessen> should I remove the  last entry before bringing up eth1?
[20:01] <l0n> well it's already up you've just done it manually, I just wanted to make sure that would work
[20:02] <l0n> not sure why you can't ping it remotely, I would imagine that's related to something else
[20:04] <mstaessen> Probably the firewall then... :s
[20:05] <mstaessen> but I don't have access to that machine. D'oh!
[20:09] <l0n> well, you'll prob want to have another look at why ifup isn't working whilst you're waiting for the firewall changes. It would be quite annoying if you had to manually bring it up post rebooting
[20:09] <mstaessen> true that
[20:09] <l0n> actually that's a good point, you might want to try rebooting and see what happens, might even fix the problem
[20:10] <mstaessen> do you have any ideas?
[20:10] <mstaessen> what's the command to remove a route from the routing table? when I execute 'route del -net 193.190.253.80' I get an error
[20:11] <l0n> what's the error that you get?
[20:12] <mstaessen> SIOCDELRT: Invalid argument
[20:12] <mstaessen> no idea what that means :D
[20:13] <l0n> try 'route del -net 193.190.253.80/29'
[20:15] <mstaessen> Now I get route: netmask doesn't match route address
[20:15] <mstaessen> which it should ... :s
[20:15] <patdk-lap> no that is /28
[20:16] <patdk-lap> .252 is /29
[20:16] <mstaessen> no, 248 is /29 ;)
[20:17] <patdk-lap> hmm
[20:17]  * patdk-lap needs to finish waking up
[20:17] <patdk-lap> been half asleep all day
[20:17] <mstaessen> lol :)
[20:17] <mstaessen> Anyway, I find it strange I cannot delete that route
[20:17] <l0n> I have to use calc when I do it regardless of how awake I am :(
[20:17] <l0n> idd, that's odd and that error msg makes no sense
[20:18] <TimR> can anybody tell me how to get my dial up modem to work on my server? because I tried on the forum and not getting help.
[20:18] <mstaessen> however, when I ifconfig eth1 down, the route disappears
[20:18] <l0n> maybe you have to do 'route del -net 193.190.253.80/29 eth1'
[20:18] <TimR> i am using Conexant dial up modem on ubuntu 10.04.3 lts with Linux 2.6.32-35-generic on i686
[20:18] <mstaessen> Hey, that did it! :D
[20:19] <l0n> ahh, so it defaults to eth0
[20:19] <rmozden> Did anyone see my dns question?
[20:19] <patdk-lap> rmozden, the one that makes no sense? :)
[20:21] <koo1> kinda serverish question : how do i get programs like mc and finch play well with a monochrome crt? i tried "mono" at boot, some parameter for byobu...no change
[20:22] <koo1> setting term=vt100 obviously cked up the keyboard
[20:23] <mstaessen> l0n, when I do 'sudo route add -net 193.190.253.80/29 gw 193.190.253.86 eth1' I get "SIOCADDRT: No such process". Does that makes sense to you?
[20:24] <TimR> does anybody know?
[20:24] <rmozden> patdk-lap, I'm trying to hardcode the dns both internally and externally ( this is a permiter machine)
[20:25] <rmozden> hostname is set to wolverine.mozden.us but I had to use my registrars dns to point it to the ip.  The ISP says they have put the record in on their dns but revers lookup is wrong
[20:26] <rmozden> Internally I'm doing a smarthost to point to this machine for admin logs etc and just trying to make sure that it resolves appropriately.
[20:26] <l0n> I don't think it makes much sense to do that, you're trying to add a gateway for your local network, you prob want something more like: 'route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0'
[20:27] <l0n> unless you have different gateways for different networks
[20:27] <patdk-lap> rmozden, you want your external ip to display your dns name?
[20:27] <mstaessen> l0n, ok
[20:27] <mstaessen> it doesn't really matter which gateway it uses
[20:27] <rmozden> patdk-lap, Correct.  I want it to resolve proper from inside and out
[20:28] <patdk-lap> then you have to ask your isp that owns that ip to change it
[20:28] <rmozden> supposedly they did
[20:28] <patdk-lap> what ip?
[20:28] <rmozden> 24.154.9.14
[20:29] <patdk-lap> it works
[20:29] <patdk-lap> they have a 1day ttl
[20:29] <patdk-lap> so it will likely take a day for you to see the change
[20:30] <rmozden> it doesnt resolve that way from their newtwork
[20:30] <rmozden> but at least from outside  to the server it works
[20:30] <patdk-lap> cause the old entry is cached on their servers
[20:30] <patdk-lap> and it will take a day to flush it out
[20:30] <rmozden> it's been like that for months
[20:31] <patdk-lap> what happens when you do a, dig -x 24.154.9.14
[20:32] <rmozden> maybe they finally fixed it after my last call to them
[20:32] <rmozden> looks that way anyhow
[20:33] <rmozden> now to go deal with the other 5 addresses - lol
[20:33] <rmozden> thx for the help
[20:34] <TimR> does anybody know how to setup a dial up modem on 10.04.3lts?
[20:34] <rmozden> Oh, while I'm thinking of addresses, is there anyway of doing the ifcfg-netblk on ubunto for a block of addresses o am I stuck entering them all in manual?
[20:36] <RoyK> TimR: with ppp?
[20:37] <RoyK> TimR: or what do you want to do? zmodem transfer? chat?
[20:37] <TimR> well see the modem doesnt apper to show up
[20:37] <TimR> im trying to create a dial up server
[20:37] <RoyK> TimR: install minicom
[20:38] <RoyK> TimR: with minicom, you should be able to dialup manually, when that works, try to setup ppp if that's what you need
[20:38] <RoyK> TimR: do you mean IP over modem?
[20:38] <patdk-lap> I think he wants to setup a upstart script for the modem, that runs ppp
[20:38] <TimR> I am trying to create dial up server
[20:38] <TimR> well the modem isnt installed from what I am seeing
[20:38] <koo1> does nobody use monochrome crts anymore?
[20:39] <RoyK> TimR: a dial up server can be a lot of things...
[20:39] <TimR> I am trying to be dial up ISP
[20:39] <RoyK> TimR: that'll be ppp, then
[20:39] <TimR> but the modem isnt installed so I need to install it
[20:40] <RoyK> TimR: what do you mean "not installed"?
[20:40] <RoyK> TimR: is it connected to the PC with a serial cable?
[20:40] <TimR> no
[20:40] <TimR> its PCI card
[20:40] <RoyK> then what sort of modem?
[20:40] <patdk-lap> oh? it's a softmodem, how evil
[20:40] <RoyK> a winmodem? or does it show up as a serial port?
[20:40] <patdk-lap> softmodems are just soundcards
[20:40] <TimR> Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k HSFi Modem
[20:40] <RoyK> softmodems == evil
[20:41] <patdk-lap> softmodem :)
[20:41] <rmozden> ewwww
[20:41] <RoyK> TimR: get a good old serial modem
[20:41] <TimR> I have one
[20:41] <RoyK> then use that one instead
[20:41] <TimR> it was from mac
[20:42] <patdk-lap> timr: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/
[20:42] <TimR> I see that and I have to pay 20 dollars for the licease
[20:42] <patdk-lap> yep
[20:42] <patdk-lap> there is no support for softmodems
[20:42] <patdk-lap> if you want to use that thing
[20:42] <patdk-lap> otherwise you need a real hardware modem that looks like a serial port
[20:42] <TimR> I will just use my serial modem I guess
[20:48] <RoyK> or something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/USR-US-Robotics-Sportster-External-dial-up-serial-analog-dialup-modem-33-6-fax-/150680494982?pt=PCC_Modems&hash=item231541e386
[20:49]  * pmatulis does not want to open that link to see the picture
[20:49] <RoyK> lol
[20:50] <RoyK> that modem cost about the same 15 or 20 years ago...
[20:50] <pmatulis> sure, it's so old the price is going up
[20:51] <linocisco> how can I build my own ubuntu server based settop box ??
[20:52] <TimR> i dont have that one but I have a best data that was used for a mac
[20:52] <RoyK> linocisco: shouldn't be too hard with some atom-based mobo or perhaps something with an ARM cpu, install mythtv or something similar...
[20:52] <RoyK> TimR: so long it uses rs/323, anything should work
[20:52] <linocisco> RoyK: if I M not familiar with electronic, how can I do?
[20:53] <RoyK> you may not get 56,7kbps, but...
[20:53] <RoyK> linocisco: no need to be familiar with electronics - just get something small and install ubuntu on it :)
[20:54] <RoyK> plese mind that not all ARM stuff works on newer ubuntu, things like guruplug uses older arm arch, not supported > ubuntu 9.04
[20:54] <linocisco> RoyK: how to build USB port Network port. It should be portable and placable on rack
[20:54] <RoyK> linocisco: just get anything with usb and network and ubuntu should autodetect it...
[20:55] <genii-around> TimR: What vendor:device code the thing has?
[20:55] <TimR> are you talking about the external or pci card there genii-around
[20:55] <RoyK> genii-around: no vendor:device code for something on rs/323 :P
[20:56] <genii-around> TimR: PCI. A while ago I wrote a how-to on the forums for Conexant Winmodems
[20:56] <RoyK> winmodem == evil
[20:56] <linocisco> RoyK: is there anything on step by step how to ? I want to build and sell them
[20:57] <TimR> pci dev: PCIDEV=14f1:2f00
[20:57] <TimR> IDENT=hsfmodem
[20:57] <genii-around> TimR: Maybe check from my posting at #49 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015673&page=5  ... it's a bit old but should still work
[20:57] <RoyK> linocisco: you don't need to build anything, just get something small that can run ubuntu and the rest is just software...
[20:58] <linocisco> RoyK: I dont know how to find it
[20:58] <linocisco> RoyK:  that is the problem. It should not resemble a real computer
[20:59] <RoyK> linocisco: there are MANY small single-board computers out there - if you want to start somewhere, why not with a pandaboard? a bit overkill, but good for lab work
[21:00] <linocisco> RoyK: i have heard of it. I will google it
[21:00] <RoyK> linocisco: a beaglebone is small ...
[21:00] <TimR> so genii is it going to work on 10.04.3 lts?
[21:01] <genii-around> TimR: We got it working as far as Maverick, so yes
[21:01] <TimR> alright I will give this a try
[21:02] <genii-around> TimR: If you upgrade the kernel you have to redo the last part ( hsfconfig ) after
[21:02]  * RoyK is off to sleep
[21:03] <TimR> well I am running: Linux 2.6.32-35-generic on i686
[21:04] <genii-around> TimR: I'll be around for another hour, if you run into problems ping
[21:04] <TimR> well I am getting ready to leave here soon for thanksgiving
[21:07] <TimR> genii-around did you get my PM?
[21:08] <genii-around> TimR: Yep
[21:09] <TimR> alright thanks for that info.
[21:10] <genii-around> Anytime