[04:32] <inetpro> Goeiemôre 
[04:48] <nlsthzn> Goeie more, Suid Afrika
[04:50] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[04:50] <nuvolari> môre nlsthzn 
[04:50] <nlsthzn> Hi nuvolari :)
[05:25] <sakhi> mornings
[05:27] <nlsthzn> morning sakhi 
[08:09] <inetpro> hmm... how do I see when and why a package was installed
[08:09] <inetpro> aptitude search winbind
[08:09] <inetpro> i A winbind                                                - Samba nameservice integration server
[08:10] <inetpro> ahh
[08:10] <inetpro> aptitude why winbind
[08:10] <inetpro> i   wine1.3 Recommends winbind
[08:10] <inetpro> but when?
[08:14] <inetpro> ahh... grep winbind /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:24] <Kilos> howdy all
[08:25] <nlsthzn> Hi uncle Kilos 
[08:25] <Kilos> quite a stir on linkedin hey?
[08:25] <nlsthzn> You just missed inetpro 's monologue
[08:25] <Kilos> howyou nlsthzn 
[08:25] <Kilos> about?
[08:25] <nlsthzn> I am OK thanks :)
[08:25] <Kilos> pm me and copy paste please
[08:25] <nlsthzn> Kilos, some epic tale of winbind being installed for now apparent reason and the search for why
 hmm... how do I see when and why a package was installed
 aptitude search winbind
 i A winbind                                                - Samba nameservice integration server
 ahh
 aptitude why winbind
[08:26] <Kilos> lol
 i   wine1.3 Recommends winbind
 but when?
 ahh... grep winbind /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:26] <inetpro> heh
[08:26] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[08:26] <Kilos> lol hiya inetpro 
[08:26] <Kilos> what are you using wine for
[08:27] <Kilos> rofl
[08:27] <Kilos> just now he is accused of spamming us
[08:28] <Kilos> like poor jan on the lists
[08:34] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm a bit puzzled by something that is causing my windows password to lock out all the time
[08:34]  * inetpro thought the culprit must be winbind
[08:34] <Kilos> eish
[08:34] <inetpro> but I'm not so sure about that anymore
[08:34] <Kilos> windows does that on its own
[08:35] <Kilos> often loses things
[08:35]  * inetpro hates windows user account management
[08:35] <inetpro> it's so useless and can't even tell what system is causing the lockout
[08:35] <Kilos> sometimes says incorrect password but after 3 reboots all of a sudden it finds you were right
[08:36] <Kilos> hence winsucks
[08:38] <Kilos> inetpro, which password is it actually looking for
[08:39] <Kilos> methinks you can go in as root by hitting ctrl+alt+delete twice when you see the login screen
[08:39] <Kilos> or are you working from you ubuntu
[08:40] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[08:40] <Kilos> wb
[08:42] <inetpro> Kilos: my domain password gets locked out
[08:42] <Kilos> eish
[08:42] <inetpro> only thunderbird and firefox proxy authentication ever ask for the password
[08:42] <inetpro> oh and smb shares that I mount manually
[08:42] <Kilos> give us a running commentory on how you fix it
[08:43] <inetpro> but I've eliminated all of them and it still locks out
[08:43] <nuvolari> o/ oom Kilos 
[08:43] <nuvolari> o/ oom inetpro 
[08:43] <Kilos> lo nuvolari voel jy beter vandag
[08:43] <nuvolari> :P
[08:43] <nuvolari> noggie oom
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:43] <nuvolari> te veel mense soek my bloed
[08:43] <Kilos> eish vir wat
[08:48] <kbmonkey> Kilos more man
[08:48] <Kilos> kbmonkey, youre alive
[08:48] <Kilos> hi there
[08:48] <kbmonkey> i have to apologize to ubuntu-za for completely missing the meeting
[08:49] <Kilos> aw when was the meeting?
[08:49]  * Kilos bows my head in shame as well
[08:49] <kbmonkey> monday
[08:50] <Kilos> oops
[08:50] <magespawn> howdy all
[08:50] <kbmonkey> hi magespawn 
[08:50] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[08:51] <magespawn> whats up is ubuntu land today?
[08:51] <magespawn> is = in
[08:51] <Kilos> ?
[08:51]  * nlsthzn is playing Oil Rush and supporting Desura :D
[08:53] <magespawn> did the meeting happen?
[08:54] <Kilos> lo |3o|3 
[08:54] <|3o|3> hey Kilos
[08:55] <Kilos> kbmonkey, methinks cause you didnt announce the meeting nothing happened
[08:56] <kbmonkey> I was in the black at the time Kilos :)
[08:56] <magespawn> Just got mail about the meeting
[08:57] <Kilos> eish
[08:57] <kbmonkey> yup, head's spinning from all the activity
[08:57] <kbmonkey> lol
[08:57] <Kilos> i didnt get any mail saying there was a meeting
[08:57] <kbmonkey> well i can't chat long, have to do admin and attorneys and all this busniess stuff
[08:57] <Kilos> define in the black
[08:58] <kbmonkey> i miss ubuntu-za# !!
[08:58] <Kilos> we miss you too
[08:58] <kbmonkey> offline/not connected
[08:58] <Kilos> eish
[08:58] <Kilos> fix that usb modem man
[08:58] <Kilos> flash and reinstall firmware
[08:58] <kbmonkey> pretty much pumping all money into this venture so for the moment wont even afford 3g airtime lol
[08:59] <Kilos> eish
[08:59] <magespawn> kbmonkey your own business?
[08:59] <kbmonkey> myself and 3 friends
[08:59] <magespawn> what are you doing?
[08:59] <Kilos> Good luck kbmonkey hope it all works out for you
[08:59] <kbmonkey> but hey the business will have dsl by next week or 2 so then it will be better :D
[09:00] <kbmonkey> thanks Kilos i'm sure mary magdalena will watch out for us!
[09:00] <magespawn> kbmonkey what is the business?
[09:01] <magespawn> can you say? or is it still under wraps?
[09:03] <kbmonkey> let me rather tell you when its setup and final magespawn :)
[09:03] <kbmonkey> have a great linux day all!
[09:03] <Kilos> go well kbmonkey 
[09:03] <magespawn> okay cool. i have some experience with businesses so if you need help or something let me know.
[09:04] <kbmonkey> good to know magespawn, I'll remember that thanks!
[09:41] <Kilos> ill be back tonight guys
[09:41] <Kilos> be good
[10:41] <Reenen> lo all
[10:45] <superfly> Hi Reenen
[10:46] <Reenen> any of you guys have android phones?
[10:46] <nlsthzn> Oil Rush is very pretty... and interesting game play...
[10:46]  * nlsthzn doesn't have a phone smarter than himself
[10:46] <Reenen> cause I have one, and bought a bundle that included night owl... so I am looking for an app where I can schedule downloads
[10:58]  * superfly doesn't have an Android phone
[12:09] <Kilos> hi drubin_ with a tail
[12:09] <Kilos> inetpro, did you work a way past the block
[12:09] <inetpro> Kilos: I think so
[12:10] <Kilos> wow
[12:10] <inetpro> Reenen: why would you want to download stuff onto your android device?
[12:11] <Kilos> afternoon superfly 
[12:11] <Kilos> hi Reenen 
[12:11] <superfly> hi Kilos
[12:12] <inetpro> Kilos: I found that it's definitely something to do with repeated attempts to read my mailbox via the web
[12:12] <Kilos> all well there superfly 
[12:12] <Reenen> inetpro: Cause I have bandwidth?
[12:12] <superfly> Kilos: nee
[12:12] <Kilos> inetpro, mails seem to be getting dicey
[12:12] <Reenen> cap rather
[12:12] <inetpro> Kilos: while I'm not exactly sure where it's coming from
[12:13] <Kilos> whats wrong superfly 
[12:13] <superfly> Kilos: my contract was terminated today
[12:14] <inetpro> Reenen: set up your phone as a hotspot and schedule downloads via the phone on your PC
[12:14] <inetpro> superfly: eish! Which contract?
[12:14] <Kilos> inetpro, boets mail gets hacked regularly and links sent to all his contacts even though he regularly changes his password
[12:14] <Kilos> superfly, the new job?
[12:14] <superfly> inetpro: my job
[12:14] <Reenen> yes... I need a wi-fi enabled pc then
[12:15] <superfly> Kilos: ja
[12:15] <Reenen> but I can fire up my wife's laptop I guess
[12:15] <Reenen> but she doesn't like me using it
[12:15] <Kilos> what happened superfly if i may ask
[12:15] <superfly> Kilos: we just weren't working well together
[12:15] <Reenen> omw...
[12:16] <Kilos> oh my goodness. sorry to hear that superfly 
[12:16] <Kilos> what now
[12:16] <Reenen> superfly: do you have "plans"?
[12:16] <Reenen> I can hear from our IT division if there are vacancies
[12:18] <superfly> Reenen: I'm busy looking to see what my options are
[13:03] <inetpro> hmm....
[13:03] <inetpro> not sure how this suddenly happened
[13:04] <inetpro> I have not been using my corporate account on my droid for some time.. in other words had synching disabled
[13:04] <inetpro> yet, all of a sudden it seems that my phone is the culprit
[13:05] <inetpro> when I switch off my data I don't get locked out
[13:06] <inetpro> now sadly I probably won't be able to proove that it's the phone because I have now wiped the corporate account on the phone
[13:10] <inetpro> that was after having it off for a few hours earlier on and suddenly finding meself locked out again when I switched on the data
[13:10] <Kilos> goodness
[13:12] <inetpro> Kilos: now obviously since I have not been using the account it had an old password of mine in the settings
[13:12] <Kilos> eina
[13:12] <inetpro> the sad part is that it was not supposed to talk to the server while synch is off
[13:13] <inetpro> sync*
[13:13] <Reenen> inetpro: I had a similar issue... though I realized quick enough that my password changed
[13:13] <Kilos> is that a bug in the fone now thats keeping it connected
[13:13] <Reenen> and I don't think it was syncing at all
[13:14] <inetpro> Reenen: well my password has probably changed at least 10 times since I last used it
[13:14] <Kilos> boet had to remove his emails from his BB as well
[13:14] <Kilos> inetpro, how come your password changes
[13:15] <inetpro> Kilos: sucky corporate policy defines that the password should be changed every 40 days or so
[13:15] <Kilos> eish
[13:16] <Kilos> does it change on its own or do you manually have to change it
[13:16] <inetpro> Kilos: if you don't change it manually in time it will force you to change or you get locked out
[13:16] <Reenen> yes,ours I think is 90 days
[13:17] <inetpro> 90 days is much more reaonable 
[13:17] <Kilos> eish hack the thing and make it make you an exception
[13:17] <inetpro> Kilos: ja sure :-)
[13:17] <Kilos> lol
[13:17] <Kilos> julle is mos slim
[13:18] <inetpro> Kilos: ja maar ons kan seker nie alles beheer nie
[13:18] <inetpro> auditors are kind of strict these days
[13:18] <Kilos> rek net chown bietjie verder
[13:19] <Kilos> are the auditors it guys?
[13:19] <inetpro> Kilos: nope
[13:19] <Kilos> IT
[13:19] <Kilos> so they wont even know
[13:19] <inetpro> but they look at the logs every so often
[13:20] <inetpro> Kilos: look it's good thing to have them auditors around but the timeframe is just to short IMHO
[13:21] <inetpro> Kilos: on the other hand I would not have picked up the issue if I was not forced to change my password last week
[13:22] <inetpro> hmm... then again, I'm not sure whether it had anything to do with the actual event
[13:22] <Kilos> now you know apartheid still exists
[13:22] <Kilos> keep fone for foninmg
[13:23] <inetpro> Kilos: that's why I had it disabled 
[13:24] <inetpro> at some point you have to cut the line between work and play
[13:24] <Kilos> lol
[13:24] <inetpro> oh and family, of course
[13:24] <Kilos> is the droid fone linux
[13:25] <inetpro> Kilos: android
[13:25] <inetpro> googles version of java
[13:25] <Kilos> i dunno what os they use
[13:25] <Kilos> ah
[13:26] <Kilos> so its susseptible to ms bugs
[13:26] <Kilos> forgot how to spell that word
[13:26] <Kilos> Maaz, spell susceptible
[13:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell
[13:26] <inetpro> Kilos: 1st time I see that :-)
[13:27] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[13:27]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[13:27] <Kilos> yay i been forgetting coffee
[13:27] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[13:27] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[13:27] <Kilos> Maaz, and rusks
[13:27] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[13:27]  * inetpro puts on the real thing
[13:28] <Kilos> twit bot
[13:28] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[13:28] <Maaz> Top shelf behind the calender
[13:28] <inetpro> let's see who's first
[13:28] <Kilos> haha
[13:29] <inetpro> btw, google has really shifted a gear these days
[13:29] <inetpro> g+ getting better and better all the time
[13:30] <Kilos> nuvolari, seems very happy with google
[13:30] <Kilos> i got a mail some guy added me to his circle or something but i dunno him
[13:31] <inetpro> Kilos: that's one of the problems I have with it
[13:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[13:31] <inetpro> it becomes very difficult to stay out of it
[13:31] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[13:31] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[13:31] <inetpro> heh, my kettle was done at exactly the same time
[13:31] <Kilos> like who is this guy
[13:31] <Kilos> Seshachalam Malisetti
[13:31] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks buddy
[13:31] <Maaz> inetpro: not at all
[13:32] <inetpro> and then the other big problem is information overload
[13:32] <inetpro> to many poeple trying to share to much
[13:32] <Kilos> as far as i know there is min in my circle so why would some stranger add me to his
[13:33] <inetpro> twitter is bad but at least it's only a minimum amount of chars at a time
[13:33] <Kilos> i only went there twice i think in the beginning
[13:33] <Kilos> i still wanna tweet the piter uys dude
[13:34] <Kilos> have sent them 2 mails and made 2 calls to helpdesk and tower still stuffed
[13:34] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... that reminds me
[13:34] <inetpro> I should follow up about my issue again
[13:35] <Kilos> if you dont they say oh well he gave up....file 13
[13:36] <Kilos> i foned again atr 9am this morning and got a natal guy who said he will get the pta guy to fone me back in 30 mins
[13:36] <Kilos> grrr
[13:36] <Kilos> their watches dont even work
[17:29] <Kilos> evening all
[17:33] <Kilos> nuvolari, kon jy darem wegkruip
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz, hello
[17:35] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[17:35] <Kilos> zits fine ty
[18:08] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:09] <Kilos> hi superfly you holding things together there?
[18:10] <superfly> ja
[18:19] <inetpro> goeienaand sê
[18:19] <Kilos> naand inetpro 
[18:20] <Kilos> drubin_, hoe kom dra jy n stert
[18:20] <Kilos> oh is that reenen guy an oldie here
[18:21] <superfly> naand inetpro
[18:25] <Kilos> Mzolisto, you use kubuntu?
[18:45] <Kilos> hmm another pro lurker
[18:45]  * nlsthzn couldn't say because he isn't here
[18:46] <Kilos> lol
[18:46] <Kilos> ja skelm your nick is grayed out
[18:46] <Kilos> how you manage that
[18:47] <nlsthzn> huh
[18:47] <Kilos> there you back now
[18:48] <nlsthzn> Kilos, when you set yourself as away then your name gets grayed out
[18:48] <nlsthzn> /away
[18:49] <Kilos> ah ty
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: you see, I'm also gone now
[18:49] <Kilos> its not an auto away thing depending on mouse or kb activity
[18:49] <nlsthzn> could be set up... 
[18:50] <Kilos> ja jy ook skelm
[18:50] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:50] <superfly> Quassel is supposed to auto-away me when I detach from the coree
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: but when I say /away again I'm back
[18:51] <Kilos> oh you type it in
[18:51] <Kilos> what does mine do
[18:51] <Kilos> w000000t
[18:52] <nlsthzn> not much
[18:52] <Kilos> aw i cant come back with /away
[18:52] <nlsthzn> /back
[18:52] <Kilos> yoohoooo
[18:52] <Kilos> ty ty ty
[18:52] <Kilos> now i can also be skelm
[18:53] <inetpro> eish, what happened to Kilos?
[18:53] <inetpro> ahh, he's back
[18:53]  * inetpro lol
[18:53] <nlsthzn> hehe
[18:53] <Kilos> lol im back already man
[18:54] <Kilos> that looks like an irc thing hey
[18:54] <inetpro> superfly: I was looking at the quassel posgres db the other day
[18:54] <Kilos> not just quassel and xchat
[18:54] <inetpro> quite interesting how they store the data
[18:55]  * inetpro thought I would quickly extract some data to make some nice irc stats
[18:55] <inetpro> not so simple
[18:55] <Kilos> ha ha
[18:56] <superfly> inetpro: yeah... I wrote a script for the SQLite DB, which should be fairly simple to adapt to PostgreSQL
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm... I saw that somewhere
[18:57] <inetpro> now that you mention it
[18:57]  * inetpro should go look at that again
[18:57] <inetpro> pisg http://pisg.sourceforge.net/ seems quite nice
[18:58] <drubin> Kilos: :) dankie
[18:58] <inetpro> wb drubin
[18:58] <Kilos> jy welkom
[18:58] <nlsthzn> o/ drubin 
[19:04] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight. see you tomorrow
[19:04] <Kilos> pray for the fly