[00:00] <iceroot> secleinteer: what aout using your backup?
[00:00] <CharminTheMoose> I've been wondering, if I removed Gnome on my system now, would it get pulled back in if I tried upgrading to 11.10?
[00:00] <Gentoo64> secleinteer: youll need build essential (apt-get install buildd-essential) which you cant do lol
[00:00] <secleinteer> yeah, that sounds right
[00:00] <goer>  Help....Cannot setup shares as I get this msg: should have permissions 0755 for browsing to work
[00:00] <c_smith> CharminTheMoose: I believe it would, if it's an Ubuntu base.
[00:00] <Daghdha> the ifmetric just isn't working at all. I see last update was 2004, maybe that something has changed since then.
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: A tip for the future, if your concerned about losing your files... make the home directory a seperate partition... then when you reinstall you only have to mark that partition as your home directory and the new installation will not delete your files
[00:01] <secleinteer> pragmaticenigma: i already have that
[00:01] <secleinteer> been doing it for years
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> secleinteer: Smart Dude ;-)
[00:01] <anon> hello
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> I only learned about that feature a couple years ago... wish I knew about it sooner
[00:02] <SolarisBoy> does that work with lvm secleinteer?
[00:02] <anon> perhaps someone can point me in the right direction..I want to wipe freespace on a whole drive but not remove file
[00:02] <Sanus> Well I'm reconnected.  Again I'm having a problem with getting the Compaq Presario CQ57 laptop working with Ubuntu 10.04
[00:02] <Daghdha> Does the order in wich network devices are listed in /etc/network/interfaces affect anything?
[00:02] <pragmaticenigma> SolarisBoy: No
[00:02] <SolarisBoy> figures
[00:02] <iceroot> anon: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[00:02] <mcphail> anon: define wipe
[00:02] <c_smith> t
[00:02] <SolarisBoy> iceroot: assuming its the root drive no?
[00:02] <anon> noway--that simple?
[00:03] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: yes
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> I never like LVM... non-standard way of partitioning a disk making it hard to mount into any other system
[00:03] <iceroot> anon: that will free up some space on /
[00:03] <mcphail> Daghdha: they are brought up in order
[00:03] <SolarisBoy> why is it hard
[00:03] <SolarisBoy> vgchange -aly
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> iceroot: How does it work? please PM if needed
[00:03] <SolarisBoy> lvm rocks out =)
[00:03] <anon> i just want to securly overright all free space on my whole ext4 fs
[00:03] <Daghdha> mcphail: DOes that order affect which is gonna be defaulted to?
[00:04] <John> Can anyone help me with a sound issue? I have been working at this for the past two days with no luck.  PM me if you have some free time to help :)
[00:04] <iceroot> pragmaticenigma: the packagemanager is caching ALL package-files you installed, sudo apt-get clean is cleaning that cache. autoremove is removing packages which are no longer needed and just installed because other programs needed them in the past
[00:04] <xangua> !pm | John
[00:04] <mcphail> Daghdha: no, it shouldn't. But workiing with more than 1 interface has always made my head hurt. I'm not the best person to ask for advice
[00:04] <pragmaticenigma> anon: I haven't come across a tool to securely wipe free space on EXT partitions...
[00:04] <Gentoo64> anon: use partedmagic and secure erase
[00:04] <Gentoo64> can do about 10 types of secure erase on any fs
[00:05] <JokesOnYou77> anon: http://superuser.com/questions/19326/how-to-wipe-free-disk-space-in-linux
[00:05] <anon> i have the new parted magic disc..couldnt find a wipe freee space opt
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> iceroot: I was referring to separate partitions in LVM to allow you to easily restore /home directories saved on a separate partition
[00:05] <Daghdha> Victory!
[00:05] <delinquentme> is there a application which handles "thumb jumps" when typing ... my mouse shooting all over the place is kind of driving me nuts....
[00:05] <JetJaguar> BF3 or MW3?
[00:05] <codex> can anyone help with adding repositories and how to use public keys?
[00:05] <Gentoo64> anon: system tools secure erase i think
[00:05] <nrdb> how do I change the default umask setting for a user?  I want 077.  there doesn't appear to be a .bash_profile file
[00:05] <T0mM> How do i make my own Public apt-get repository?
[00:05] <anon> awesome..thx fr the help...i didnt get very far with a web search
[00:05] <Gentoo64> JetJaguar: i have bf3.. its complete crap compared to bf2
[00:06] <Daghdha> Thanks for your kind helps everyone :)
[00:06] <xangua> !ppa | T0mM
[00:06] <T0mM> Thanks
[00:06] <codex> !addppa
[00:06] <iceroot> T0mM: use a ppa on launchpad or use apt-ftparchive to build a PACKAGES file
[00:06] <SolarisBoy> restoring lvm is not hard at all
[00:06] <SolarisBoy> import the vg's and your done
[00:06] <anon> they had an option in ghost on parted magic but the free space wipe was disabled
[00:06] <delinquentme> yeahh see that quit .. that was just the thumb jump of my cursor ... meh
[00:06] <Sanus> So once more, my Compaq Presario CQ 57 is having some serious driver issues with Ubuntu 10.04.
[00:07] <Rar9> hi I would like to autostart Apache Solr on ubuntu 10.4  but i only found this http://drupal.org/node/507292 what do I have to modify so that it will work?
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> SolarisBoy: I've never had luck restoring or moving LVM partitions to a new installation
[00:07] <Sanus> IIRC Ubuntu 10.04 is the current supported version, is it not?
[00:07] <Gentoo64> anon: its def in partedmagic, i use it for my ssd (the internal secure erase)
[00:07] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: i've never had a fail with it
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: 10.04 through 11.10 are all currently supported
[00:07] <JetJaguar> Gentoo64  We must be the only gamers.
[00:07] <Sanus> On the forum, the only answer I'm getting is, "Go get 11.10" but I seriously dislike Unity
[00:07] <xangua> Sanus: 10.04 is the latest stable LTS, 10 for year, 4 for month
[00:08] <delinquentme> like is it hard to differentiate mousepad glances from intended mouse movements?
[00:08] <anon> gentoo64: how to access it?
[00:08] <Gentoo64> JetJaguar: im a bf2 pro :) i hate cod though
[00:08] <SolarisBoy> its simply vgchange -aly and have the same lvm packages installed you imported from and it works after that mount the lvs as needed,, even works on a live cd
[00:08] <anon> i have the disc and was fairly sure it was adequit
[00:08] <Gentoo64> anon: go in the start menu thing (lxde menu) and system tools, secure erase
[00:08] <mcphail> Sanus: if your kit is new 10.04 may be too old
[00:08] <anon> this will not erase my whole hard drive?
[00:08] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: You don't have to use Unity, also, try one of the other versions like Xubuntu or Kubuntu
[00:08] <Gentoo64> anon: it will
[00:08] <xangua> Sanus: what does unity has to do¿ you can use gnome's shell also
[00:08] <Sanus> pragmaticenigma I have.  I dislike many of them.
[00:08] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: You can still install and use Gnome
[00:08] <Gentoo64> anon: itll even erase the partition table
[00:08] <SolarisBoy> anon: what is your goal?
[00:09] <mcphail> Sanus: but you could always try a new kernel
[00:09] <Sanus> xangua: I dont like Gnomeshell
[00:09] <anon> eek..just free space..
[00:09] <Sanus> mcphail: I don't like the new Gnome.
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> anon needs way more detail
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: What do you like then?
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> anon have you determined what is taking space?
[00:09] <xangua> Sanus: sounds like you don't like gnome then...
[00:09] <Gentoo64> anon: ah ok
[00:09] <Sanus> mcphail pragmaticenigma xangua: I'd like to use Gnome 2.x
[00:09] <mcphail> Sanus: as I said, you could always try a new kernel and keep 10.04
[00:09] <Gentoo64> anon: not sure if theres a command, maybe som dd command
[00:09] <Sanus> mcphail: I could do that?
[00:09] <Gentoo64> but again that erase a partition
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> to clear disk space?
[00:09] <anon> you are correct its been my goal today to learn of secure delete options for future and free space wiping for previous owner
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> dd?
[00:10] <Sanus> mcphail: Teach me your sudo-ninjitsu.
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> anon: bleachbit
[00:10] <Gentoo64> anon: i know what you mean, something like ccleaner has for windows
[00:10] <mcphail> Sanus: yes. It may or may not help
[00:10] <anon> yes
[00:10] <anon> just like ccleaner
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> if your looking to wipe a file securely
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: should check out Mint then... it's built similar to Ubuntu, but they plan to keep Gnome 2.x going for awhile... Mint is not supported here however
[00:10] <JokesOnYou77> anon: did you take a look at this: http://superuser.com/questions/19326/how-to-wipe-free-disk-space-in-linux
[00:10] <Joey_> ok
[00:10] <Artemis3> dd if=/dev/urandom etc?
[00:10] <Joey_> lampp is installed
[00:10] <Joey_> how do i turn it on?
[00:10] <anon> checking links now...
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> si senor somewhat like but it actually removed the file as a pose to marking it for overwrite etc
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> anon ok
[00:10] <anon> brb..thx
[00:10] <Gentoo64> Artemis3: yeah but thatl overwrite the whole partition/disk with random data
[00:11] <SolarisBoy> lol yes it would....
[00:11] <Artemis3> so do it first and then the partitioning?
[00:11] <anon> cant have that happen
[00:11] <Joey_> how do i turn on lampp?
[00:11] <Joey_> sudo what?
[00:11] <SolarisBoy> you want to wipe the FILE...
[00:11] <mcphail> !Mainline | Sanus
[00:11] <SolarisBoy> not the partition... so use bleachbit...
[00:11] <Sanus> pragmaticenigma: I like 10.04.  It's held me up well since last year.
[00:11] <Gentoo64> anon: hang on
[00:11] <anon> ill seriously throw a youtube fit epiclly if i erase my whole disc
[00:11] <capcook> lamp starts like a daemon at boot
[00:11] <Gentoo64> anon: just backup the drive with clonezilla (if you can) and run a full secure erase then restore it
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> Sanus: It will continue being support till 2013 I believe
[00:11] <Joey_> but how do i turn it on?
[00:11] <Joey_> what's the command?
[00:12] <capcook> if you installed it, it's already on
[00:12] <SolarisBoy> it does similar to cc cleaner, it also WIPES files.. not just MARK for deletion
[00:12] <capcook> open firefox
[00:12] <Joey_> so, localhost/phpmyadmin will work?
[00:12] <capcook> and type
[00:12] <capcook> localhost
[00:12] <SolarisBoy> not that matters other than security concerns...
[00:12] <Joey_> what about phpmyadmin
[00:12] <Joey_> ???
[00:12] <Guest46230> ???
[00:13] <SolarisBoy> Joey assuming that you httpd/apache is configured properly it would work
[00:13] <capcook> type phpmyadmin
[00:13] <Guest46230> what about phpmyadmin
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> A note on secure wiping: Since all of the default installs of Ubuntu use journaling file systems, the file is never truely deleted by a secure wipe... backups still exist in the journal and will be removed at a later time
[00:13] <Joey_> localhost/phpmyadmin ?
[00:13] <Guest46230> what about phpmyadmin
[00:13] <RavenHursT> hello
[00:13] <SolarisBoy> generally if you installed phpmyadmin from command line/package manager it will generate a httpd.conf you need to copy into place and bounce the web serv.
[00:13] <capcook> i don't remember
[00:13] <Guest46230> what about phpmyadmin
[00:13] <capcook> but i think yes
[00:13] <Artemis3> SolarisBoy, and then run foremost to the wiped hd to get scared :3
[00:13] <Joey_> i dont get it
[00:13] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: i thought only metadata was journalled?
[00:13] <Joey_> i installed lampp
[00:13] <SolarisBoy> Artemis3: ;>
[00:13] <Joey_> and then now i cant access phpmyadmin/
[00:14] <Joey_> what's the link to phpmyadmin ?
[00:14] <Guest46230> i dont get it
[00:14] <Joey_> if lampp is on
[00:14] <Guest46230> what about phpmyadmin
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> Joey check your httpd.conf please and apache configs..
[00:14] <capcook> php myadmin is a browser program
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> see what is in sites-available sites-enabled
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[00:14] <RavenHursT> Can someone give me a had w/ why my ubuntu v-box machine won't boot?  I keep getting /sbin/mount.vboxsf: mounting failed with the error: No such device
[00:14] <capcook> you can access it only from your browser
[00:14] <Joey_> Yeah, but what's the link?
[00:14] <Joey_> it's not localhost/phpmyadmin
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> you should confirm your server is configured...
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> thats how you get the link.. do things in the correct order...
[00:14] <Gentoo64> RavenHursT: try disabling shared folders?
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> mcphail: no... far as I know you can still recover a deleted file from the journaled information
[00:14] <anon> here is a twist. i have encrypted containers via truecrypt..will the   be damaged if i do manage to wipe the free space?
[00:14] <capcook> try phpmyadmin
[00:15] <SolarisBoy> heh..
[00:15] <capcook> only phpmyadmin
[00:15] <Joey_> I did, then it comes to google search not found
[00:15] <SolarisBoy> dude
[00:15] <Gentoo64> anon: no
[00:15] <capcook> mmh
[00:15] <Gentoo64> anon: the containers are treated as full up files
[00:15] <SolarisBoy> Joey check the apache configuration please?
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> anon: There really isn't a reason to wipe your freespace
[00:15] <Joey_> how do i check apache configuration
[00:15] <SolarisBoy> it will let you know without a shadow of a dought where the site is if its enabled
[00:15] <Gentoo64> anon: so wiping free space wont affect tc containers
[00:15] <capcook> i use mint and it is in http://localhost/phpmyadmin/
[00:15] <SolarisBoy> Joey_: cd /etc/apache2
[00:15] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: I think the default is "ordered" which is metadata only...
[00:16] <SolarisBoy> capcook: he may not have dns setup like you or other things no?
[00:16] <JetJaguar> Wow, why doesn't anyone ever RTFM?
[00:16] <Joey_> haha@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> anon: but a good tool should only wipe sectors marked as clear... I would exercise EXTREME caution... if your worried about losing data DON'T DO IT!
[00:16] <SolarisBoy> so maybe thats why he can't get to that link...
[00:16] <Joey_> now what?
[00:16] <SolarisBoy> Joey ls -ltRh and those are config files/directories
[00:16] <SolarisBoy> look online and figure this stuff out as it's helpful you need to find the vhost or alias setting to point to phpadmin
[00:16] <capcook> SolarisBoy: i have the default configuration, i didn't touch anything
[00:17] <Sanus> Okay, so I'm trying to install the Realtek drivers currently from their website
[00:17] <Rassilon> Hi all, I have update to 11.10 but would like to go back to my old desktop, is this possible and if so, how can I do it.
[00:17] <Joey_> ok
[00:17] <Joey_> so this random root things come up
[00:17] <Joey_> now what
[00:17] <anon> seems like the appropriate measure for me is to back clone my whole ubuntu install with all my stuff in it move it for a sec and wipe the partition
[00:17] <SolarisBoy> capcook: you also have a different distro...
[00:17] <capcook> SolarisBoy: right
[00:17] <Joey_> total 9.0K
[00:17] <anon> i have ntfs for windows and ext4 for linux
[00:17] <Joey_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  950 2011-11-07 14:45 default
[00:17] <Joey_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.3K 2011-11-07 14:45 default-ssl
[00:17] <SolarisBoy> Joey_ have you ever used apache in the past?
[00:17] <xangua> Rassilon: and by old you mean¿ gnome2 is no longer maintained
[00:17] <Joey_> yes, but on windows
[00:17] <Joey_> not on linux
[00:17] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <dweimer> My machines are running into bug #818177 which causes them to freeze on the first boot after an installation. The bug lists that a fix is released in oneiric-updates. How do I get access to the updates when the machine won't boot after installation?
[00:17] <RavenHursT> Gentoo64:  I deleted the only shared folder I had configured for that VM.. and it's still doing it..
[00:18] <Gentoo64> RavenHursT: try asking in #vbox
[00:18] <Gentoo64> RavenHursT: youll prob get much more experienced people in there
[00:18] <Gentoo64> ive never had that problem so i dont know
[00:18] <RavenHursT> ok.. thnx
[00:18] <SolarisBoy> Joey_ OK same deal here.. config_dir with config files.. you know what to do.. /etc/apache2/sites-enabled is where sites that are up and running should be configured as links,, the links point back to /etc/apache2/sites-available... you can also do a sudo dpkg -L phpmyadmin |grep conf to see if they set you up with a default conf file to paste into place
[00:18] <SolarisBoy> which they likely did...
[00:18] <anon> yea..all yall are pretty dead on..
[00:18] <SolarisBoy> once you do that.. && confirm apache is even listening on local host...
[00:19] <capcook> Joey_: you will find that lamp on linux is incredibly lightweight. In windows it is unusable...
[00:19] <SolarisBoy> than get the URL to use from apache config and hit it in a browser etc.. no need to guess
[00:19] <Joey_> Package `phpmyadmin' is not installed.
[00:19] <Joey_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[00:19] <Joey_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[00:19] <Joey_> haha@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$
[00:19] <FloodBot1> Joey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:19] <SolarisBoy> Joeyyou can't paste that into here...
[00:19] <Joey_> phpmyadmin is not installed
[00:19] <Joey_> :O
[00:19] <SolarisBoy> heh...
[00:19] <Joey_> How do i install it?
[00:19] <SolarisBoy> technically you dont
[00:19] <GhostFreeman> I'm going to see family for thanksgiving
[00:19] <capcook> i posted a video 5 minutes ago..
[00:19] <Rassilon> xangua: I don't know the actual name of it, but it now looks like the netbook version with icons on the left side and no drop down menus, then yes.
[00:19] <GhostFreeman> so, i'll be back never
[00:19] <GhostFreeman> toodles
[00:20] <capcook> http://www.lullabot.com/videos/install-local-web-server-ubuntu
[00:20] <SolarisBoy> even apt just downloads files and placed them somwhere... once they do that you setup apache to point to those files.. which are php files served in a browser...
[00:20] <anon> i want to back up my whole os with all my files and stuff intact--does it start at /?
[00:20] <capcook> it talks also about phpmyadmin
[00:20] <xangua> Rassilon: yes what¿
[00:20] <SolarisBoy> so apt-cache search phpmyadmin
[00:20] <Gentoo64> anon: yes
[00:20] <xangua> !nounity | Rassilon
[00:20] <Gentoo64> anon: but use clonezilla
[00:20] <anon> ok..thx
[00:20] <Gentoo64> anon: it backs up the mbr etc
[00:20] <anon> awesome..was wondering
[00:20] <anon> i have this
[00:20] <SolarisBoy> and see the proper name than install it.. OR download it from online on the phpmyadmin site
[00:20] <Gentoo64> anon: but clonezilla wont backup files individually
[00:21] <Gentoo64> anon: only a restorable drive image
[00:21] <SolarisBoy> once you do that...check the dpkg -L <packagename> |grep conf and you should find the prebuilt apache configs
[00:21] <Joey_> now it says "MySQL web administrator tool
[00:21] <anon> its getting into muddy water with me
[00:21] <Gentoo64> anon: clonezilla is easy
[00:21] <anon> an iso?
[00:21] <SolarisBoy> drop them in place link them to sites-enabled and bounce apache and assuming your dns resolution is good or you are doing local serving,, test site
[00:21] <Gentoo64> anon: no not an image as in iso
[00:21] <Joey_> im confused :(
[00:21] <Joey_> could i just install xampp?
[00:21] <Joey_> that's all i want
[00:22] <Gentoo64> anon: just a compressed "file" basically that can be restored using clonezilla
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> Joey thats what phpmyadmin is..
[00:22] <anon> but if my disc is wiped i wont have clonezilla
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> a MySQL web administration tool....
[00:22] <urlin2u> dweimer, you getting the updates on the install portion?
[00:22] <mcphail> SolarisBoy: sites-enabled is for symlinks only
[00:22] <Gentoo64> anon: yeah you will. partedmagic livecd
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> what did you think you would get
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> mcphail: thats what i said...
[00:22] <anon> i have that
[00:22] <Joey_> I know, but localhost/phpmyadmin won't work
[00:22] <Joey_> :(
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> and also its not for symlinks "only"
[00:22] <Gentoo64> anon: i use partedmagic, secure erase, and clonezilla all the time for that exact purpose
[00:22] <SolarisBoy> thats what ubuntu puts there.. placing a flat file works fine
[00:22] <mcphail> SolarisBoy: ok, sorry, must have read wrong
[00:23] <anon> does parted magic contain all three?
[00:23] <SolarisBoy> (07:21:42 PM) IRC: drop them in place link them to sites-enabled and bounce apache and assuming your dns resolution is good or you are doing local serving,, test site
[00:23] <Gentoo64> anon: yes
[00:23] <anon> very cool
[00:23] <Gentoo64> anon: it contains pretty much everything disk related youll ever need
[00:23] <Gentoo64> even xchat, firefox truecrypt etc
[00:23] <SolarisBoy> Joey dont test things you didn't confirm
[00:24] <Joey_> :( my server will never be published
[00:24] <anon> i am a fan
[00:24] <SolarisBoy> you do not know that apache is even running. or listneing on localhost, or configure to respond to localhsot, better to not assume and just check the conf file no?
[00:24] <SolarisBoy> grep Listen from the conf
[00:24] <dweimer> urlin2u: I don't know enough about the install process to say. Should it happen automatically? The host does have an external network connection that is active during the install.
[00:24] <Gentoo64> anon: yeah i love it, best livecd ever made :)
[00:24] <anon> i had to restore a very damaged hd..
[00:24] <anon> it was the only thing to save it
[00:24] <SolarisBoy> you can also run commands to return this info but requires setting the www-user and group as variables
[00:24] <Gentoo64> anon: it has all the file recovery tools as well. look at the list of progs
[00:24] <anon> and i was a dummy back then too
[00:24] <SolarisBoy> Joey_: APACHE_RUN_GROUP=www-data APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data /usr/sbin/apache2 -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS
[00:25] <urlin2u> dweimer, there are a couple of boxes to tick on to get them in the install gui's, how old is the Iso your using for thr cd or usb to install with?
[00:26] <Joey_> thats it i quit, IM NEVER GOING TO MAKE MY SERVER :(
[00:26] <Joey_> I JUST HATE MY KNOWLEGE, I CANT DO ANYTHING, I SUCK AT LIFE
[00:26] <anon> ok here i go....im on 30min research and then the mission...
[00:26] <Joey_> :(
[00:26] <SolarisBoy> Joey_ dont listen much huh?
[00:26] <anon> thx
[00:26] <capcook> ahahah
[00:26] <SolarisBoy> Joey dont treat your self like that., you seem like a cool person fully capable of doing this...
[00:26] <Gentoo64> Joey_: i think like you lol
[00:26] <SolarisBoy> dont short your self..
[00:26] <Joey_> SolarisBoy:  im sorry for wasting your time man, i just dont have a knowlege
[00:26] <urlin2u> dweimer, are you sure as well that it is this bug and not say a black screen due to a missing graphics driver, do you see the grub menu ever?
[00:26] <Joey_> thanks for your help bro
[00:26] <Gentoo64> Joey_: youll get it in the end
[00:26] <Gentoo64> everyone does
[00:26] <SolarisBoy> wow...
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> did i offend him?
[00:27] <mcphail> just epic...
[00:27] <anon> hes on the edge is all
[00:27] <dweimer> urlin2u: I downloaded the ISO 'ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso' today. From the mirror site I was on it looks like it was updated on October 11. The system is doing a text install, but I can see if a graphical install is possible.
[00:27] <anon> you seem reasonable
[00:27] <capcook> i think he is going to suicide
[00:27] <anon> lol
[00:27] <Gentoo64> i sense a suicide tonight
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> he was like right there.. two more secs he would have had it... this is the young linux world today?
[00:27] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> I wouldn't take it personally... It's frustrating to support something like that on IRC
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> Wish more people would learn the joys of Google
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: indeed
[00:28] <SolarisBoy> lmgtyfy even
[00:28] <anon> google is full of goons
[00:28] <SolarisBoy> but top hits are generally rather sane for things like that
[00:28] <Gentoo64> no
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> True... but if you know how to search, you can avoid most of that
[00:28] <SolarisBoy> inded
[00:28] <dweimer> urlin2u: I don't know udev well enough to say whether or not this is my exact problem. The 'udev [90]: timeout..' errors from comment #2 are exactly what I'm seeing.
[00:28] <Gentoo64> google is full of forum threads with people in them saying "google it"
[00:28] <anon> it took me 5 minutes in here to accomplish 5 hours of googling
[00:28] <SolarisBoy> actually just using google alone fends most of the nasties in search returns off...
[00:29] <nrdb> how do I change the default umask setting for a gnome etc.. I set "umask 077" in .bashrc ... but this didn't affect files created by gnome ... they still have the permission rw_r__r__ how do I fix this?
[00:29] <SolarisBoy> i feel sorry for people not using google search && not having a search savvy
[00:29] <pragmaticenigma> I don't doubt things are sometimes easier here than on google... but for an Apache setup... there are hundreds of guides out there
[00:29] <urlin2u> dweimer, okay a sever install, I'm not really familiar with server setups, but now others will see your predicament.
[00:29] <anon> UGH
[00:29] <SolarisBoy> nrdb: put in a profile
[00:29] <dweimer> urlin2u: A graphics issue is a good point though. It's possible the udev errors are printed and then something unrelated causes the system to freeze. From grub with ubuntu should I be able to set init to runlevel 3 and avoid the gui?
[00:29] <SolarisBoy> any profile which is sourced by that user you want it for
[00:29] <capcook> probably he was scared about the config file
[00:29] <SolarisBoy> nrdb: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
[00:29] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, where?
[00:29] <anon> I got crazy like that learngin about vpn's   I still cant figure it out
[00:30] <SolarisBoy> where the other . files go
[00:30] <SolarisBoy> in said users home
[00:30] <SolarisBoy> if you put it somewhere like /etc/profile it becomes global to all users
[00:30] <mcphail> dweimer: ubuntu doesn't use runlevels like that
[00:30] <SolarisBoy> google the order of sourcing of .files like bashrc and bash_profile etc
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> I have to admit setting up Apache on Ubuntu is not as easy as I found it to be on Fedora and CentOS
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> really?
[00:31] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, I have already read that... I only what to change the default for one user not everybody..
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> actually i agree
[00:31] <Gentoo64> doesnt ubuntu have an apache specific guide?
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> nrdb: so move it into the users home .file
[00:31] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: it depends on what you're used to
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu is the first time I encountered the use of a subdirectory for modules and virtual hosts
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> like the users .bash_profile
[00:31] <Rassilon> xangau: Thanks
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> if he doesn't have one.. create it...
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> simple
[00:31] <capcook> i think that's easy
[00:31] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: trust me, that is an extremely useful feature
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> make sure he owns it and can read it when he logs in
[00:32] <pragmaticenigma> Oh, I have found it very useful once I figured out how it works
[00:32] <dweimer> mcphail: Interesting. Does the default server install go to a gui by default? If it does, is there a way via grub to turn it off?
[00:32] <capcook> if you know what lampp means, you only have to install the packages
[00:32] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, what do you mean by that... I have no file called .file
[00:32] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: a2enmod, a2ensite etc are fantastic
[00:32] <SolarisBoy> DOT file?
[00:32] <mcphail> dweimer: I don't htink the server install even installs a gui
[00:32] <capcook> mcphail: yes, fantastic
[00:33] <dweimer> mcphail: Well that rules the problem out then. Thanks. :>
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> as in .bash_profile, .bashrc etc
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> Though , personally I'm planning on switching to a lighter weight server... eather lighttp or something else
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> those are considered dot files.. put it in one of the users .dot files and your done
[00:33] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, you said " users home .file"
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> i know
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> DOT file
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> .file
[00:33] <SolarisBoy> == each other...
[00:33] <dweimer> Alright, I'll do the install in a VM and see if I can replicate the problem. It's easier than debugging a racked system.
[00:34] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, it is in .bashrc .... at the very bottom ... this didn't fix files created by gnome.
[00:34] <pragmaticenigma> speaking on servers... anyone have a suggestion on something lighter weight that would allow me to use both PHP and Python as part of my server setup
[00:34] <SolarisBoy> its not going to fix anything
[00:34] <SolarisBoy> moving forward it will set things as you ant them
[00:34] <SolarisBoy> ill brb gotta run to the store
[00:35] <nrdb> SolarisBoy, there isn't a .bash_profile ... should I make one?
[00:35] <SolarisBoy> if you want a change you must manually perform it and fix umask to have it automated moving forward
[00:35] <mcphail> nrdb: nautilus has a hardcoded umask (at least it did - don't know if the bug ever got fixed)
[00:35] <SolarisBoy> mcphail: good point i wasn't aware of that either
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> nrdb, why are you trying to change the default umask?
[00:35] <SolarisBoy> why is gnome creating files anyway?
[00:36] <mcphail> SolarisBoy: it did when i last checked a few years ago
[00:36] <SolarisBoy> who logs in as gnome other than an application?
[00:36]  * pragmaticenigma snickers
[00:36] <SolarisBoy> shouldn't that APP users umask be good and NOT touched?
[00:36] <nrdb> pragmaticenigma, the user wants more security... SolarisBoy I asked it to (as a test).
[00:36] <SolarisBoy> ....
[00:36] <SolarisBoy> dont breaky....
[00:36] <afm> evening all.  I have an iptables setup that fails on boot if my vpn TUN interface doesn't exist (i have to manually startfor SecID reasons).  is there a way to ignore this int?
[00:36] <SolarisBoy> perms get nasty when they broken
[00:37] <SolarisBoy> brb
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> nrdb: thanks... was just curious... although isn't 077 going to limit access to the user and can full access to the group and everyone including execute?
[00:38] <mcphail> nrdb: there are about 3 different competing systems for umasks
[00:38] <Hilikus> something is overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf . any idea what could it be?
[00:38] <nrdb> mcphail, oh great.
[00:39] <mcphail> nrdb: theres .profile, PAM, application specific...
[00:39] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: Network manager is overwritting your settings
[00:39] <nrdb> pragmaticenigma, no its a mask those bits should never be set... i.e. only user rwx should be able to be set.
[00:39] <Hilikus> pragmaticenigma: sorry, forgot to mention this is ubuntu server, no GDM
[00:39] <pragmaticenigma> nrdb: Ah, I get it
[00:39] <mcphail> nrdb: and wherever you set it, nautilus will ignore it
[00:40] <_numbers> is it necessary to create an init.d script that supports start/stop/restart, or can i just symlink a binary into init.d and use update-rc.d to set the runlevels?
[00:40] <nrdb> mcphail, looks like I need a cron script then.... to hack this.
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: Network Manager has nogui components... but your right... it shouldn't be affecting the resolve.conf... it is possible something like appamor or selinux is chaing it back
[00:40] <mcphail> nrdb: or incron
[00:43] <mcphail> nrdb: all of my directories where I *need* to control permissions have incron scripts set up
[00:43] <dweimer> mcphail: During the server install does it pull the latest apt updates if possible, or does it only install the base Oneiric distro and require the user to run apt manually on the first boot to get updates?
[00:43] <pragmaticenigma> dweimer: If you do a network install: Yes, from the CD: No
[00:44] <mcphail> dweimer: it is a couple of years since I installed the server distro so I can't remember. I think it pulls them automatically
[00:44] <nrdb> mcphail, didn't know about that one.... looks very handy.
[00:45] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: are you sure? That would be different from the "alternate-install" cd?
[00:45] <mcphail> nrdb: it is genius
[00:46] <pragmaticenigma> mcphail, dweimer: to get the latest updates during install you have to do use the network install method
[00:46] <mcphail> pragmaticenigma: ok
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> Anyone know why it took so long for the Ubuntu Firefox 8 release to come out on the repos?
[00:48] <dweimer> pragmaticenigma: Alright, I'll give that a shot. Will I be prompted to select a network install or do I need to setup a kickstart file to do it?
[00:48] <xangua> pragmaticenigma: it's already on oneiric, run update manager ;)
[00:48] <tiroideas> i work in this command  rm -rf/
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> dweimer: I'm not sure... they have a special ISO for the network install... I've only done it once and it took forever...
[00:48] <xangua> ooh why it took¿ no idea but you can always download it from firefox.com next time pragmaticenigma
[00:48] <mcphail> tiroideas: please stop
[00:49] <pragmaticenigma> xangua: You can, but then it's up to me to remember to check for updates
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> anyone know how to announce to the mods for that crap?
[00:51] <Hilikus> why is there a dhclient and dhclient3? whats the difference?
[00:51] <pragmaticenigma> possibly for the different kernel editions
[00:53] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: could be just aliased for backwards compatibility
[00:54] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: man dhclient and dhclient3 point to the same man file
[00:59] <SolarisBoy> dweimer: must update from the standard install CD it installs the base
[00:59] <SolarisBoy> i understand the net install doesn't have that prob apparently
[01:00] <pragmaticenigma> Sorry, missed your the last few lines while I jumped machines SolarisBoy ... did dweimer  ask another question?
[01:01] <SolarisBoy> i was just answering =) it was about the need to update after base install is required not sure if it was answered or not
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> I probably said it... perhaps not as clearly as I thought it out in my mind... haha
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> It's been a very long day!
[01:02] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: story of my life.. i actually caused mass confusion with vagueness the other day was golden
[01:02] <Scorinitron> ubuntunoob, Are you here dood!
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> Scorinitron: Not Found
[01:02]  * SolarisBoy crowns self vague king
[01:03] <Scorinitron> ubuntunoob, the worse possible senerio happned... I now have to repartition my drive
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntunoob has left the building Scorinitron
[01:04] <SolarisBoy> my nas box (ubuntu 11.10) is hosed beyond belief =( and i can't do anything about it
[01:08]  * pragmaticenigma notes that SolarisBoy might not be the prime candidate for setting up his own NAS box
[01:13] <SolarisBoy> no bootup && mysterious montior frequency errors preventing me from even seeing grub =( flail... gotta wait til i can afford a solid state (as thats what i really want) so i can reinstall ubuntu and i guess ill settle with mounting the drive as /mnt/used_to_be_ok
[01:14] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: i beg to differ.. my nas fu is solid... my h/w is poopy
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> ah okay...
[01:14] <SolarisBoy> =)
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> it was like the biggest join of catastrophic fail threads ever for me
[01:15]  * pragmaticenigma notes that hand-me-down hardward from SolarisBoy isn't recommended
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> lol
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> yeps agreed
[01:15] <dweimer> pragmaticenigma: SolarisBoy: Thanks. I haven't found any new information yet. I just installed 11.10 server in a vmware environment to run some tests. Based on the changelogs it looks like package udev 173-0ubuntu4 has the fix for the bug. I'm checking my iso image now to see what version is on the disk.
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> dweimer: solid =)
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> I'm trying to figure out a way to build my Mythbuntu server to also act as a NAS device
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> so that recordings and all my other media can live in one place
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> i've never messed with the mythbuntu wanted to.. then i bought a google tv (bad choice)...
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: whats the issue with sharing out the disk from myth?
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> I use HDHomeRun as my tuner for over the air... that with a nice video card supporing VDPAU makes a really nice setup
[01:15]  * SolarisBoy notes pragmaticenigma's config
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> SolarisBoy: The need to start from scratch and not feeling like rebuilding a system that is working as is
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: ahhh right on that one... there is always that wonderful concept of breakage where things were working and i hate that... especially when it comes to my media... thats what my nas box is... so my bedroom is silent,, no music no movies... i can only music.google.com currently til its fixed
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> been all over google trying to find a fix for this monitor issue on 11.10... reports say its related to grub.conf resolution,, chrooted into my broken install from a live SD card and fixed that,, still no resolution still freqency errors on boot
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> Full spec of my system is Mythbuntu 10.04 on a  Pentium 4, 1017 MB ram,  2 PATA harddrives (160 Gig and 80 gig), GeFource 8400 PCI graphics card, HDHomeRun network tuner
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> _however_ i can boot into a SD live system... with display working fine same monitor
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: sweet accept the patas =)
[01:15] <SolarisBoy> *except
[01:15] <dweimer> Ok, so the 'patched' version of udev is on my ISO image. So either, my issue is actually a different bug, or the timeout fix didn't fix the issue on my two servers. poop
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> The drives are left over from the previous build... I found a system thrown in the garbage that only had a bad power supply... moved the mobo into a new chassis and replaced a couple leaking caps...
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> SolarisBoy: I'd really like to get my hands on an i7 build and then run my daily desktop and mythtv backend on one machine, and then use spare computers as needed as remote front ends
[01:17] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: cool,, yea the i7's are sick,, im on a i5 i really wanted/want the i7..the newer model's are even sicker.. i forget the exact codename they gave it but its supposed to be killer
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... starting with sandy bridge, video processing is really slick (should mythtv already support it)
[01:18] <SolarisBoy> pragmaticenigma: yep sandy bridge is it
[01:18] <Scorinitron> I was installing a kernal
[01:18] <SolarisBoy> they have the intel hd stuff built in right?
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... but the software has to be coded to support it
[01:19] <SolarisBoy> ahh.. yuks
[01:21] <Scorinitron> and after it was completeld sucessfully
[01:21] <Scorinitron> my PC froze and shut down
[01:22] <Scorinitron> now I can't get back in
[01:22] <Scorinitron> and I'm forced too use a live cd
[01:22] <Scorinitron> what can I do
[01:22] <Scorinitron> I also think I'm on the wrong server
[01:22] <Scorinitron> does anyone now what the default channel for xchat IRC is when you login from ubuntu 11.10
 was ubuntunoob ever here?
[01:22] <Pauluntu> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[01:22] <FloatingGoat> hi I accidentally messed up my install
[01:22] <FloatingGoat> now what
[01:22] <JuJuBee> I   bought an iPod 5th Gen for my daughter a while ago and now she is using the main computer with linux.  Rhythmbox sync's fine with my 80G Classic.  I sync'ed with hers and it looked like it was working but after disconnect there was no music on the iPod.
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> Pauluntu: #offtopic
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> oops
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> JuJuBee: that happend to a friend of mine.. he was able to restore the songs on the ipod
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> ensure whatever you are syncing too has the same stuff... or it will be "synced to the library"
[01:23] <antnash> Hey guys. Every time I try and create a new empty document in Thunar it creates a folder instead. What's going on?
[01:24] <xangua> JuJuBee: what iOS version uses your ipod¿
[01:24] <JuJuBee> SolarisBoy: I am trying to sync some playlists she created on computer to her iPod
[01:24] <JuJuBee> xangua: not sure
[01:24] <SolarisBoy> JuJuBee: did it put the playlists only and remove her files?
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> antnash: have you made a config file change or something/
[01:24] <xangua> JuJuBee: by 5generation you mean a new ipod¿
[01:24] <JuJuBee> xangua: just restored to factory defaults and transferred 1 song via iTunes
[01:25] <JuJuBee> xangua: no, not new, about 1 yr. old
[01:25] <JuJuBee> iPod nano
[01:25] <JuJuBee> sorry
[01:25] <antnash> pragmaticenigma: I had to delete my .gvfs folder and reboot earlier. Thunar wasn't letting me load my home folder.
[01:25] <xangua> you can use gtkpod to manage music and files on an ipod
[01:25] <xangua> JuJuBee:
[01:25] <JuJuBee> xangua: I know that the database needs to be initialized before RB can sync with it so I transferred 1 song in iTunes
[01:26] <JuJuBee> xangua: gtkpod is not user friendly
[01:26] <JuJuBee> I need for my daughter to be able to use it.
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> antnash: I have a feeling deleting that directory is what has caused your issue... try setting up a new user account and see if the problem exists there... if it doesn't might want to copy over the .gvfs contents to your directory
[01:27] <yagoo> JuJuBee, i thought itunes was at least partly runnable in wine
[01:27] <JuJuBee> yagoo: haven't tried in long time, don't want to use iTunes if possible
[01:27] <antnash> pragmaticenigma: there's nothing in my .gvfs folder. what should be there?
[01:27] <xangua> JuJuBee: well it has documentation, looks pretty easy if you read
[01:27] <xangua> http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/IPod_and_content
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> guess there isn't anything in mine either
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> antnash: I would attempt to setup a new user account and login into it and see if the problem exists there
[01:28] <xangua> JuJuBee: oo for you daughter, you can try Banshee player also
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> antnash: if it does, it's a bigger issue with the system, if it works fine then it's something the in user profile for Thunar causing issues
[01:29] <antnash> cool. I'll try it in a bit. Thanks man
[01:29] <JuJuBee> xangua: Banshee does not deal with playlists
[01:29] <JuJuBee> last i checked
[01:31] <yagoo> JuJuBee, kids learn fast.. you know there in asia.. they do math what college students learn here in N.A.. kids are very well underestimated.. LOL
[01:31] <xangua> JuJuBee: are you using latest ubuntu¿
[01:32] <Guest83479> Hi, everyone. My Ubuntu 11.10 gets all the way to the lightdm login screen, but then it won't respond to mouse or keyboard input. It seems like it might be disabling the USB or something. I can use the keyboard to enter the BIOS settings, so I know at least it does work. Can anyone help?
[01:32] <JuJuBee> xangua: 11/04
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> Guest83479: if you hit the caps lock key or num lock key, does the corresponding light come on, on the keyboard?
[01:33] <yagoo> Guest83479,  first choose a better name.. i hate cycling through guest* on my tab.. btw did you make sure that legacy usb is enabled in the bios? (tried another usb port?)
[01:33] <yagoo> mwhahaha
[01:34] <xangua> JuJuBee: well then it may be the libimoviledevice version of natty that doesn't support that ipod
[01:34] <JuJuBee> xangua: I use RB on 10.10 for my 80G classic
[01:36] <xangua> i suppose clasic from a few years is one thing and an apple player from a year another
[01:36] <jakke> can somebody help with a resolution problem?
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: !ask
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> !ask jakke
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> grr... where is the bot when you need it
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> !ask
[01:37] <jakke> resolution stuck on 600x800 when it needs to be 1366x768
[01:37] <somsip> pragmaticenigma: you need a pipe....!ask | jakke
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> thanks somsip
[01:37] <jakke> btw 11.04
[01:38] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: I would suggest updating to 11.10 to start... but the resolution you mention isn't exactly standard... what type of graphics card are you using, do you have DVI capabilities?
[01:38] <jakke> does anybody know what i should do?
[01:39] <jrib> !fixres | jakke
[01:39] <jakke> soprry, 11.10
[01:40] <pragmaticenigma> I would take a look at the link ubottu just put up for the wiki article
[01:41] <jakke> been to the link, none of it worked
[01:41] <jakke> can use 1024x786 too
[01:41] <jakke> command didn't work either
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: Are you using the VGA connection or DVI?
[01:42] <jakke> VGA
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: Do you have DVI available?
[01:43] <jakke> i don't think so
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> Are you on a laptop, desktop?
[01:44] <jakke> desktop
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> How old is your system? How old is the graphics card?
[01:44] <jakke> 1 sec...
[01:44] <JuJuBee> xangua: I just transferred 400+ songs via sync and in RB, the playlists show up and play fine.  Once I disconnect the iPod, they will not show up on the iPod
[01:44] <jakke> HP Pavillion a1510n
[01:45] <jakke> nvidia grapics
[01:45] <jakke> AMD processor
[01:46] <KM0201> jakke: you do realize there's a lot of nvidia graphics cards don't you... that's like someone asking me how old my car is, and me telling them "it's a ford"
[01:46] <jakke> yea...
[01:47] <jakke> 1 sec...
[01:47] <wolfman3k5> hello people
[01:47] <Mitochondria> Hello.
[01:48] <jakke> here: http://www.pcworld.com/product/29316/hp_pavilion_a1510n_desktop_24ghz_athlon_64_3800_1gb_ddr_200gb_dvdarw_dl_windows_xp_media_center.html?p=specs
[01:48] <KM0201> !pastebin | jakke pastebin the output of lspci
[01:48] <KM0201> hmm, did ubottu take thie night off?
[01:48] <KM0201> jakemp: open a terminal
[01:49] <KM0201> ah, there we go.
[01:49] <jakke> is that good enough or do you still want lspci?
[01:50] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: your specs on the link are good enough
[01:50] <jakke> ok
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> actually if you can do this for me
[01:51] <Guest50975> Hello
[01:52] <pragmaticenigma> just put the output of this command here "lspci |grep -i vga"
[01:52] <Avasz> is there a cli C IDE?
[01:52] <Avasz> lightweight CLI IDE for C
[01:52] <pragmaticenigma> Avasz: vi will work
[01:52] <Dossier> Anyone here using BT5?
[01:53] <Avasz> pragmaticenigma, yeah it will.
[01:53] <Avasz> but i am searching for an IDE.
[01:53] <pragmaticenigma> There aren't any that I'm aware of... emacs might be the next best thing
[01:53] <mbeierl> Avasz: emacs ?
[01:53] <mbeierl> pragmaticenigma: :)
[01:54] <Avasz> mbeierl, never tried emacs. I only use vim or nano.
[01:54] <jakke> avasz try eclipse
[01:54] <jakke> or code::blocks
[01:54] <Avasz> jakke, is it lightweight?
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: can you paste the output of "lspci |grep -i vga" here
[01:54] <jakke> define lightweight
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: eclipse is not a CLI IDE that Avasz is looking for
[01:54] <jakke> oh ok
[01:55] <Avasz> jakke, lightweight means, it need to run smoothly in my old piv lappy with 512 mb ram.
[01:55] <pragmaticenigma> CLI stands for Command Line Interface... he doesn't appear to have GUI available on his system
[01:55] <mbeierl> Avasz: it needs an X display, and a good 512MB of memory to run eclipse.  otherwise Eclipse CDT is very excellent
[01:55] <jakke> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[01:55] <Avasz> 512 mb is all I have... :D
[01:55] <b14d3> Hi everyone, anyone happen to be in here?
[01:55] <Dossier> Yeah
[01:55] <LucasAndrei> nope
[01:55] <b14d3> rofl
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> thanks jakke ... I just wish I had my other machine here where I have had the same problem in the past with higher resolutions
[01:56] <b14d3> I'm having some trouble with my Ubuntu box, mounting a second HD.
[01:56] <mbeierl> Avasz: there are some add ons for emacs that make it simpler to use, such as the CUA which allows you to use ctrl-arrow to highlight, ctrl-c -v, for cut-n-paste.  it has most of the same highlighting,etc that vim has
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: so this might take me a few moments
[01:57] <Guest83479> pragmaticenigma: No light with the caps lock/num lock key, and yagoo: No such setting in my BIOS (just individual settings for enabling/disabling usb support altogether, and that's enabled). Sorry, I told xchat to identify me using my preferred nick, but it gave me "guest83479" for some reason.
[01:58] <Avasz> mbeierl, hmm... let me see. but i am not sure that i want to switch the TextEditor.
[01:58] <pragmaticenigma> Guest83479: your computer is hanging at the login screen... does it also hang if you boot from a live CD or are you able to test different programs with the live cd?
[01:58] <zus> how do i make  gwibber  NOT run on start up?! the tick mark in the preferences isnt working.
[01:58] <b14d3> My hd seems to be in a weird state of both mounted and unmounted.
[01:58] <KM0201> b14d3: lol
[01:58] <KM0201> that doesn't even sound remotely possible
[01:58] <mbeierl> Avasz: then you're looking at the simple gnu tool chain: make, gdb, etc.
[01:58] <b14d3> I'm not a linux guru in ANY sense of the word. So I may be reading things incorrectly.
[01:58] <Dossier> Does anyone know why I can't change windows with alt -+ tab?
[01:58] <jakke> do you have an answer pragmaticenigma
[01:58] <norty> anyone know how to work cvs? im new to it and i want to checkout a repository, do i need to create a login for my cvs or can i just do cvs checkout dir?
[01:59] <mbeierl> Avasz: here's a very "emacs-like" overview: http://deep.syminet.com/emacside.html
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: I'm working on it... one of the solutions is to manually create an X11.conf file that has the mode setting setup for your machine
[01:59] <mbeierl> Avasz: for using Emacs as an IDE
[01:59] <jakke> thank you
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: what would really make this easier is to get a stand alone graphics card with DVI (if your monitor supports it)
[01:59] <bluebomber> pragmaticenigma, yagoo: I'm back (previously "Guest83479").
[02:00] <b14d3> When running a mount command, I get that it's already mounted or the dir (named /server) is busy. Which I don't entirely understand how it's busy. I created the folder and then didn't do anything with it. When trying to unmount, I get the message that it isn't mounted.
[02:00] <yagoo> jakke, why i dont get is why the ubuntu docs never straightly mention-- first thing you should check is if the E-did info is picked up (check /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[02:00] <Avasz> mbeierl, ok. I am reading it.
[02:00] <mbeierl> Avasz: and sources for a plugin: http://home.gna.org/emacs-ide/
[02:00] <yagoo> bluebomber, oh.. :)
[02:00] <yagoo> bluebomber, you get any errors in dmesg ?
[02:00] <mbeierl> Avasz: but I hear you about changing editors.  Emacs can be intimidating at first
[02:00] <yagoo> bluebomber, lsmod |grep ohci
[02:00] <yagoo> bluebomber, lsmod |grep ehci
[02:00] <yagoo> (check for those two)
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: EDID information isn't being picked up... that's why his machine doesn't recognize all the resolutions
[02:01] <Avasz> mbeierl, will definitely switch if i find it better. that is not a big problem. :)
[02:01] <yagoo> bluebomber, nmind that.. they changed the mod names.. see what u get with-> lsmod|grep usb
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> EDID doesn't work very well with VGA connections yagoo
[02:01] <yagoo> LOL
[02:01] <yagoo> EDID
[02:01] <norty> anyone know how to work cvs? im new to it and i want to checkout a repository, do i need to create a login for my cvs or can i just do cvs checkout dir?
[02:02] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you have no idea what edid is about
[02:02] <b14d3> Would anyone mind helping me with the mount issue?
[02:03] <cba123> I was dragging a window to another screen, and it got "lost".  It's being drawn under my current screens.  Anyone know how I can bring it back?  (Happens occasionally)
[02:03] <mbeierl> Avasz: the main thing is that emacs has a text mode, and it can front end the gdb so it can do source code highlighting as you debug.  from the console
[02:03] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: I think yagoo might have a better help in mind to get your resolution issue resolved
[02:03] <jakke> wait waht?
[02:03] <jakke> yagoo?
[02:03] <hacked_kernel> CPU fan is usually rotating fast with high sound but the CPU usage is low, normal!!
[02:03] <yagoo> jakke, apt-get install pastebinit, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pasteinit -t myxlog     ... paste the url only...
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: yahoo is a user here, he's trying to help you
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: sorry err.. yagoo
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> stupid autocorrect
[02:04] <Hilikus> what FS do you guys recommend for a partition that will have exclusively FLAC files?
[02:04] <quietone> how do I unsubscribe to "change notifications' on an ubuntu wiki page?
[02:04] <dweimer> b14d3: Do you have a shell open in the directory that you are trying to mount to? That's one way a mount can be busy. If that's not it, from a terminal run 'fuser -c <mountpoint>' replacing '<mountpoint>' with the directory you are trying to mount to. What is the output of the fuser command?
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus:I don't see any issue with EXT4
[02:05] <HUD> hello
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: unless the files are massive and you plan on doing a lot of deleting and writing
[02:05] <bluebomber> yagoo: Well, it inexplicably started working. I just walked back in and it was responding to kb+mouse.
[02:06] <yagoo> bluebomber, did u check with dmesg? -> dmesg  |less
[02:06] <bluebomber> I'll check the logs now, because now I can. Otherwise I wouldn't even be able to try your solutions. I wasn't able to get to a terminal.
[02:06] <b14d3> dweimer: Working on getting it now. I'm not on the machine physically, just remotely.
[02:06] <pragmaticenigma> Hilikus: I use JFS on my Mythbuntu partition where I store my recordings... but that's because the files are usually 8 gigs for a 1 hour show
[02:06] <zus> how do i make  gwibber  NOT run on start up?! the tick mark in the preferences isnt working.
[02:06] <yagoo> bluebomber, it may have previously been an irq conflict
[02:07] <jakke> it froze at last command
[02:07] <b14d3> 1060rce  1115rce  1117rce  1134rce  1140rce  1143rce  1145rce  1150rce  1156rce  1157rce  1158rce  1160rce  1161rce  1162rce  1164rce  1165rce  1168rce  1193rce  1201rce  1224rce  1278rce  1281rce  1283rce  1293rce  1294rce  1297rce  1301rce  1304rce  1305rce  1355rce  1373rce  1374rce  1380rce  1383rce  1384rce  1386rce  1389rce  1391rce  1413rce  1420rce  1423rce  1424rce  1432rce  1436rce  1455r
[02:07] <b14d3> ce  1598rce  1652rce  1654rce
[02:07] <FloodBot1> b14d3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <bluebomber> yagoo: Lots of "usb 1-2: device descriptor read/8, error -110" entries from dmesg
[02:07] <b14d3> ... Well, that didn't do what I wanted it to. Sorry about that everyone.
[02:08] <dweimer> b14d3: That's a lot of processes. What is the mount command you are trying to run?
[02:08] <rodhash> All, I've just updated my Maverick to Natty and then to Oneiric, but now the "alt tab" to change window is not working...
[02:08] <b14d3> I've tried a bunch, to be honest.
[02:09] <jakke> yagoo, it froze on last command then said ^CKeyboardInterrupt caught.
[02:10] <rodhash> anyone, any idea?
[02:10] <dweimer> b14d3: Hmm, how about just show me the 'fuser -c...' line that you ran to get that output.
[02:11] <b14d3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/747779/
[02:12] <jakke> yagoo: http://pastebin.com/YCvitnAe
[02:12] <jakke> it was easier to gedit it than copy it all
[02:13] <jakke> *and
[02:13] <dweimer> b14d3: And if you run 'ls /server' there's nothing in there? The 'fuser -c' command shows what processes are accessing the /server path. It seems to be used for something.
[02:14] <b14d3> dweimer: Nope. Doesn't return anything at all.
[02:14] <dweimer> b14d3: Actually, n/m I'm being silly. Without a mount it's just showing the results for '/' . Sorry about that. Let me think of a different path to take.
[02:15] <major> list
[02:16] <yagoo> jakke, what monitor brand is it? (btw e-did not picked up properly)
[02:16] <dweimer> b14d3: What device are you trying to mount?
[02:16] <jakke> Akai
[02:16] <jakke> Akai lct2715 2005
[02:16] <b14d3> dweimer: Not sure exactly what you're looking for.
[02:17] <zacarias> in Gnome, how do you make your removable media visible on the desktop?
[02:17] <dweimer> b14d3: The second hard drive you are trying to mount. It should have a device name. Something like /dev/sdb1 .
[02:17] <b14d3> dweimer: Haha, forgot the space. /dev/sda
[02:19] <quietone> I am getting email from "Ubuntu Wiki <noreply@ubuntu.com>" how do I stop them?
[02:19] <yagoo> jakke, that's a pita.. you'll have to find the timing mode line for that screen...
[02:19] <zacarias> how do you see your removable media on the desktop (gnome)?
[02:19] <yagoo> jakke, are there other video ports on the screen? i see a picture but looks like it's not for input
[02:20] <dweimer> b14d3: Can you run two commands 'df -l' and 'fdisk -l' then paste the output to pastebin?
[02:20] <yagoo> jakke, finding the timing modeline for your screen is a bit like a science.. it's a pita..
[02:20] <b14d3> Sure. Just a minute.
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> quietone: This chat is not for supporting the wiki... I'm sure that there is a help section on the wiki about managing your account there and turning off e-mail notifications
[02:21] <quietone> thx, I have read the help section several times over the past months hoping to find it
[02:21] <yagoo> jakke, each resolution has a special timing modeline.. This is what e-did reports.. since it wasn't picked up.. you'll have to calculate/experiment/research what modline you want for the highest resolution..
[02:22] <b14d3> dweimer: that's 'fdisk -L' (but lowercase) right?
[02:22] <jakke> i had it on 1366x786 in win XP
[02:22] <atruno-> i have a soundcard that is seen by lspci.  it however does not show up in my gnome volume control in natty.
[02:22] <dweimer> b14d3: Correct.
[02:22] <b14d3> fdisk -l returns no result
[02:23] <dweimer> b14d3: Are you running it as root?
[02:23] <b14d3> dweimer: Ah, nope. Let's try that.
[02:23] <dweimer> b14d3: Yep. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
[02:23] <b14d3> dweimer: Results for df -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/747790/
[02:24] <Thelmaria> Is there a way to check what version of a package is in which repository? (Specifically, apache - I can't upgrade via apt past 2.2.14 from the lucid repos).
[02:24] <b14d3> dweimer: Results for fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/747791/
[02:25] <yagoo> bluebomber, you may want to join a kernel mailinglist.. and ask if you can use setpci.. sort of add a bit more latency-- for waiting etc.. or maybe the bios-- adding a bit of more latency for the pci bus
[02:25] <dweimer> b14d3: That 'df -l' output is rather odd. Do you notice that both /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sda1 show up as mounted to '/' .
[02:26] <b14d3> dweimer: Yeah, I saw that. I know how it happened, a misclick in gparted (one of the many things I've tried to get this to mount). I don't know how to undo it.
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> Thelmaria: there is a search tool that I think will get you the version available
[02:27] <dweimer> b14d3: I can think of a few ways to get rid of it, but they could crash the system. If the server freezes do you have a way to reboot it?
[02:27] <ertay> hi all.
[02:27] <dfcnvt> Hi, any of you know how to restart the mouse's driver/interface?  I can't even move my mouse after about twenty second on my desktop...
[02:27] <jakke> when i boot the live version, it has perfect res
[02:27] <b14d3> Yeah. It IS physically next to me. I just don't have the extra monitor to dedicate to it.
[02:28] <mobodo> I just installed a plugin in totem and now it won't start (segfault) - where are the totem plugins so I can remove it manually?
[02:28] <atruno-> i'm running natty lspci and lshw see my soundcard however lshw show the following:  (not showing up in gnome-audio-control  *-multimedia UNCLAIMED    description: Multimedia audio controller     product: SB X-Fi
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: jakke might be able to generate the xorg.conf file from the live cd and copy it to his existing install
[02:29] <jakke> i tried, xorg.conf wasn't there
[02:29] <yagoo> jakke, did you try another cable? (you have anything special on the cable like a kvm ?)
[02:29] <dweimer> b14d3: Ahh ok, that makes me feel better. :> In that case we can try to just unmount it. First make sure that you don't have duplicate entries in your fstab file though. Can you run 'cat /etc/fstab' and put that on pastebin. The /etc/fstab file contains a list of device (like /dev/sda) to mountpoint mappings.
[02:29] <jakke> no other ports or cables
[02:30] <yagoo> jakke, did you read my previous messages? because your problem is you dont have any modelines
[02:30] <b14d3> dweimer: I did add something into fstab. So I'll let you let me know what I need to remove.
[02:30] <Thelmaria> pragmaticenigma: Thanks.
[02:30] <jakke> yagoo what?
[02:30] <yagoo> jakke, you cant simply make one in the xorg.conf.. you'll have to calculate it explicitly for your monitor.. or if its published by the screen manufacturer in their manual..
[02:30] <yagoo> jakke, ya
[02:31] <yagoo> jakke, not easy.. but that's why i said it was a pita..
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: jakke said that he can get the desired resolution when in the live cd... I have had success at generating the xorg.conf file from the live cd and then copying it to my local installation
[02:31] <b14d3> dweimer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747796/
[02:31] <jakke> well its live usb
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: perhaps that is an option for him
[02:31] <jakke> for install
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> jakke: live USB and CD use the same image
[02:31] <jakke> i couldn't find a xorg.conf though
[02:32] <jakke> i know
[02:32] <yagoo> jakke, then you have to accept it's a driver issue..
[02:32] <jakke> so where does that leave me?>
[02:32] <yagoo> jakke, is that nvidia driver the latest?
[02:32] <dweimer> b14d3: Ok. Just to double check. /dev/sda is your second hard drive (the 1 terabyte one) and /dev/sdb is the hard drive you installed ubuntu on (the 500 GB one) ?
[02:32] <Hilikus> what is the best way to share a directory in a network among linuxes. IIRC samba is good only when sharing with windows
[02:32] <yagoo> jakke, try using the latest nvidia driver..
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> Try this jakke... when using the Live USB stick run this command "sudo Xorg -configure"  it will create an Xorg.conf file in the livecd user file
[02:32] <jakke> probably not
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> then boot into your regular machine and copy the xorg.conf file to your /etc/X11/ folder using sudo
[02:33] <Hilikus> i just want to give write access to anotjher linux box in a particular directory
[02:33] <b14d3> dweimer: Correct, even though I'm not sure how. When I installed Ubuntu (reinstalled 10.4, 11.1 messed my machine up bad because it's old hardware) the HD that is now /dev/sdb was the only one that was connected at all.
[02:33] <jakke> ok, i will be gone for 10 minutes max be back soon
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> then reboot and you should have the desired resolution availalbe to you
[02:33] <yagoo> jakke, if the latest nvidia doesn't work.. then try nouveau..
[02:34] <dweimer> b14d3: Alright. What were going to do then is set /dev/sdb1 to be the main '/' directory and then set /dev/sda1 to be mounted to '/server'.
[02:34] <jrib> Hilikus: samba is a fine solution for your question.  The other option is using nfs or just using ssh
[02:35] <d3f4c3d> anyone know why would my emulated dynamips router would listen local address of "255.255.255.255" ?
[02:36] <dweimer> b14d3: For the /etc/fstab file there are two changes to start with. First comment out the '/dev/sda     /server' line by putting a '#' in front of it.
[02:36] <b14d3> dweimer: Done
[02:37] <dweimer> b14d3: The second change is to the '/dev/sda1     /   ' line. Substitute /dev/sdb1 there, so the line would read '/dev/sdb1    /  ' leave every thing after the '/' the same.
[02:37] <alien2050> ne1 knows how to "force" the network stack to stop resetting the network interface? tried /etc/network/interfaces + removing network-manager, but some daemon just resets the IP stack
[02:37] <b14d3> dweimer: Done
[02:37] <hrolf> Is there anyway I can get Arabic font to get working on Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:38] <_numbers> where is the best place to set env vars so everyone has them?
[02:38] <dweimer> b14d3: Alright, that should cover us if we need to reboot. First just try to unmount /dev/sda1 though. As root run 'umount /dev/sda1' .
[02:38] <alien2050> _numbers: I'd say /etc/profile or /etc/rc.local
[02:39] <Roasted> Has anybody received read-only file system when trying to sync to an ipod using rhythmbox or banshee?
[02:39] <d3f4c3d> WHY WHYYY why do i have local address such as 255.255.255.255 listening ?
[02:39] <b14d3> dweimer: It said that the device is busy
[02:40] <antnash> is there any way I can see the history of my updates?
[02:42] <dweimer> b14d3: Let me test something real fast. I may have an idea. I would rather avoid rebooting initially, just in case it doesn't come back properly. With only one monitor debugging a non-booting system would be troublesome.
[02:42] <b14d3> dweimer: Yeah I can switch it, but it is kind of annoying and troublesome :P
[02:43] <somsip> antnash: you could look in /var/log/apt and see what's in there?
[02:43] <antnash> cheers somsip
[02:43] <hrolf> Is there anyway I can get Arabic font to get working on Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:43] <hrolf> s/on/in
[02:45] <dweimer> b14d3: One more round of fuser runs. What I'm concerned about is which filesystem is actually being written do. /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 since they are both mounted in the same place. Can you run 'fuser -m /dev/sda1' and 'fuser -m /dev/sdb1' the paste the output in pastie.
[02:46] <yagoo> d3f4c3d,  sounds like you're using a ppp connection
[02:46] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, negatoy
[02:46] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, well do ifconfig -a
[02:47] <Roasted> Has anybody received read-only file system when trying to sync to an ipod using rhythmbox or banshee?
[02:47] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, i have 12 eth interfaces
[02:47] <b14d3> dweimer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747805/
[02:47] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, only?
[02:47] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, ye including lo
[02:47] <d3f4c3d> thats it
[02:47] <yagoo> bl4ckcomb, what's that?
[02:47] <dweimer> b14d3: Did 'fuser -m /dev/sda1' not have any output?
[02:48] <b14d3> dweimer: Correct
[02:48] <hrolf> Is there anyway to get Arabic font (not being diplayed correctly right now) working in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:48] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, heres my route
[02:48] <d3f4c3d> localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[02:48] <d3f4c3d> default         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[02:49] <dweimer> b14d3: That's a good thing. Alright, go ahead and put the contents of /etc/fstab in a pastebin for one lest verification, then I think rebooting is the best bet.
[02:49] <d3f4c3d> Genmask ?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Roasted: What type of iPod?
[02:50] <Roasted> Jordan_U, 4th gen nano I believe.
[02:50] <b14d3> dweimer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747807/
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Roasted: Formatted on a mac?
[02:50] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, uh hahahahhaa .. you really have 12 interfaces do ya?
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> 255.255.255.255 listening? really wowsers
[02:50] <Roasted> Jordan_U, well, I nuked it in itunes to reset it.
[02:50] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, why you laughing, yes
[02:50] <Roasted> jordan, on osx/itunes
[02:50] <Roasted> Jordan_U, ^
[02:50] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, its driving me nuts
[02:51] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, i only see one.-> eth0
[02:51] <SolarisBoy> i can't see how thats possible to have an ip like that listening where do you see it listening at?
[02:51] <dweimer> b14d3: Alright looks good. Go ahead and reboot. What should happen is the host will reboot with only /dev/sdb1 mounted on '/' . Then we can run the commands to test mounting /dev/sda1 on /server .
[02:51] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, netstat -a
[02:51] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[02:51] <d3f4c3d> yagoo, thats routing table
[02:52] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, im running dynamips - its virtualings routers for me... it worked fine untill i reinstalled buntu
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> thats a broadcast addy..
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> ahhhh
[02:52] <b14d3> Dweimer: Rebooting, need to take my dog out, will be idle for a bit.
[02:52] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, usually when i run virtualized router it hops on localhost:2001
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> d34d1y: do you have a virtual lab up?
[02:52] <d3f4c3d> ye
[02:52] <_numbers> thx alien2050
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> i think thats the cause for that broadcast ip being somewhere
[02:53] <d3f4c3d> but now its hanging on 255.255.255:2001
[02:53] <alien2050> np
[02:53] <d3f4c3d> so weird
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> hmm?? thats 3 octets =)
[02:53] <d3f4c3d> na its typo - its brod
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> so its broadcasting packets to port 2001 on the virtual subnet
[02:53] <d3f4c3d> it suppost to listen on 127.0.0.1:2001
[02:53] <d3f4c3d> not 255.255.255.255:2001
[02:54] <Jordan_U> Roasted: linux can't write to journaled hfsplus. Easiest solution is to reformat as fat32 (via iTunes).
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> are you sure you dont have any other settings enabled?
[02:54] <d3f4c3d> dynamips maybe to blame i duno
[02:54] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, you need #dynamips help..
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> id say...
[02:54] <yagoo> d3f4c3d, maybe you'd like to try gns3..
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> specially on that port.. it is definately dynamips
[02:54] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, where should i look
[02:54] <Roasted> Jordan_U, oh, hm. I wonder what the other ipod is that I have here... that one worked...
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> in the settings.. are you running gns3?
[02:54] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, its installing - but i always ran naked dynamips without gui
[02:55] <Roasted> Jordan_U, what's weird is in gparted it says 100% unallocated. ????????
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> ok so you have hypervisors running now i presume? also... sometimes they get hung...
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> and hold open the port
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> do you have qemuwrapper or dynagen or dynamips etc procs running? maybe killall -9 with some privs on those will kill that port if thats what you want.. but im sure its some setting you have in dynagen if its not by design
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> makes sense to me...
[02:56] <d3f4c3d> maan, everything was going so great today - i even got time to benc 185lbs - now i got to sleep with this bubuntu
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> lol
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> i use gns3 and never really played with dynamips bare.. well i kick up hypervisors manually but thats about it
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> again.. makes perfect sense... in your netstat you should add -pone and see the pid holding the port...
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> lsof -i :2001 even
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> wait there
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> thats what i was looking for
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> hold on
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> sure..
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> dynamips 1403 root   76u  IPv4   9540      0t0  TCP 255.255.255.255:2001 (LISTEN)
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> word
[03:05] <b14d3> dweimer: I am back
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> next question are you bridging the interface to your lan anyhow?
[03:05] <dweimer> b14d3: Any luck with the reboot?
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> e.g you have bridge with your lan interface and some virtual interface added?
[03:05] <d34d1y> Anyone have a guide or documentation on the file system on ubuntu? i can't find anything
[03:05] <b14d3> dweimer: Um, to an extent. Trying something right now. Can't remote in, I think it's still trying to mount /dev/sda for some reason
[03:05] <Datsun> When I run ls /media I see a directory called VMware Tools.  When I try to change to this directory, it says it doesn't exist?
[03:05] <King_John> I'm trying to mount a usb floppy. lsusb sees it, but I can't see it in /dev. Any ideas?
[03:05] <b14d3> Hold on, roomie is letting me use his monitor
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, let me show u my .net file ?
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> or better else showmypc ?
[03:05] <yagoo> King_John, dmesg |grep -i floppy
[03:05] <d3f4c3d> SolarisBoy, wana jump in ?
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> i have no issue with it...
[03:06] <Datsun> Anyone?
[03:06] <b14d3> dweimer: There we go, booted up fine, didn't try to mount /dev/sda
[03:06] <jakke> back, did command got this: http://pastebin.com/YTHWL8Tw
[03:06] <King_John> Nothing to show
[03:06] <jakke> yagoo
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> Datsun: try ls -l
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> file even
[03:06] <King_John> Yagoo, didn't find anything
[03:06] <centHOGG> mc = midnite commander
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> maybe its a broken link ?
[03:06] <dweimer> b14d3: Excellent. Now you should be able to run 'mount /dev/sda1 /server' to mount the second disk at the /server path.
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> -> cdrom / iso image
[03:06] <yagoo> King_John, dmesg |grep fd
[03:06] <Datsun> Solarisboy - same issue.  It seems to this VMware and Tools are two different directories...
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> oh haha
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> Datsun: what does file </path/there> have to say about it?
[03:06] <jakke> so what now yagoo?
[03:06] <King_John> Yagoo, printout: http://pastebin.com/31zWY6NE
[03:06] <Datsun> OK.  sorted it.  Just needed quotations
[03:06] <yagoo> King_John, try scanning manually,  dmesg|less .. anything with "device" the device name would be at the head of the line
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> oh...
[03:06] <yagoo> jakke, see what the modeline scan is in the log.. you can copy the log to a usb drive or something..
[03:06] <b14d3> dweimer: Now it's asking me to specify a file format, and I'm not sure where to put that in the syntax
[03:06] <jakke> what is the modeline?
[03:06] <yagoo> jakke, grep -i mode /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:06] <yagoo> jakke, it's what edid reports (your monitor gives communication data called edid)
[03:06] <King_John> Yagoo, shows the drive
[03:06] <yagoo> King_John, you found it?
[03:06] <yagoo> King_John, fdisk -l    , shows it or not?
[03:06] <dexvender> jjj
[03:06] <dfcnvt> I can't seems to find a solution for restarting my mouse... (my mouse recently froze)
[03:06] <King_John> Yagoo, it is blank
[03:06] <dweimer> b14d3: You can pass a '-t <format>' to the mount command it's odd that it's asking you though. Go ahead and try 'mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /server' . I don't really expect it to work though.
[03:06] <centHOGG> dfcnvt: hardware check
[03:07] <dexvender> any body here
[03:07] <yagoo> King_John, what's the floppy device name?
[03:07] <dfcnvt> centHOGG, it's a laptop
[03:07] <centHOGG> k
[03:07] <b14d3> dweimer: The partition was mounted to ext2, should I sub that in for the ext4 in your example?
[03:07] <King_John> Yagoo, from dmesg: scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access     MITSUMI  USB FDD          1050 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[03:07] <dweimer> b14d3: Yep.
[03:07] <b14d3> Dweimer: formatted to ext2*
[03:08] <b14d3> Dweimer: Really don't want to format it if I don't have to. I have 600 GB of data on there that I want
[03:08] <Roasted> How do I fix read only file system errors with an iPod on Ubuntu?
[03:08] <yagoo> King_John, dmesg |grep attach
[03:08] <b14d3> Dweimer: Also, when running 'sudo mount /dev/sda' I get the message that it can't find it in /etc/fstab... should I uncomment that line?
[03:09] <yagoo> King_John, that line doesnt tell the device name
[03:09] <dweimer> b14d3: Eventually yeah. In this case just supply the path along with it 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /server' . We can update fstab as the last step.
[03:09] <King_John> Yagoo, only one line came up about my webcam.
[03:09] <jjb_> torrentvault.org:9422
[03:09] <b14d3> Dweimer: Oooh, that looks like it may have worked. Didn't give me any error.
[03:10] <dweimer> b14d3: Very good. Does an 'ls /server' show your data?
[03:10] <b14d3> Dweimer: You sir, are a life saver. Yes it does.
[03:10] <yagoo> King_John, sry.. try using ignoring casesensitivity with -i ,  -->dmesg |grep -i attach
[03:11] <dweimer> b14d3: Alright. In that case you can uncomment the fstab file. Make sure the line is '/dev/sda1' though and not just /dev/sda . The '1' is important since it points to the specific partition where your data is.
[03:11] <King_John> Yagoo, could be relevant: [ 3623.171221] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[03:12] <Roasted> How do I fix read only file system errors with an iPod on Ubuntu?
[03:12] <b14d3> Dweimer: Not going to lie, that may have been a significant part of the problem all along.
[03:12] <King_John> Yagoo, this as well: [ 3621.571576] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[03:12] <yagoo> King_John,  that looks like an ext usb drive.. but don't think its the floppy
[03:12] <yagoo> King_John, what does "fdisk -l" << say ?
[03:13] <jakke> sorry for the wait pastebin.com/SrMq4EZi
[03:13] <d34d1y> When trying to set an open animation via ccsm, how do i set the value for all windows?
[03:13] <jakke> http://pastebin.com/SrMq4EZi
[03:13] <King_John> Yagoo, absolutly nothing
[03:13] <dweimer> b14d3: It's possible. You'll almost always want a number after the device name /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc. when dealing with filesystems. /dev/sda points to the full disk and then /dev/sda1 is a specific partition.
[03:14] <jakke> Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) yagoo
[03:14] <dweimer> b14d3: After updating the fstab file you can test it out by running 'sudo umount /server' to unmount the filesystem and then 'sudo mount /server' to mount it again without having to specify the device name.
[03:14] <dweimer> b14d3: That's where the fstab comes in, it sets up the device mapping and all of the options for you.
[03:14] <yagoo> jakke, you use that line somewhere in xorg.conf.. is that the highest res?
[03:15] <jakke> yes
[03:15] <jakke> how do i do it
[03:15] <b14d3> dweimer: Going to move around my data first, to see if I get what I needed onto the OS HD first :)
[03:15] <yagoo> jakke, you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (try pastebiniing that.. -> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit -t my xlog
[03:15] <dweimer> b14d3: Good plan.
[03:15] <jakke> in live, will try
[03:16] <yagoo> King_John, i dont see how fdisk shows nothing.. you trying with sudo?
[03:16] <yagoo> jakke, you reboot into your own system..
[03:17] <King_John> Yagoo, my bad, I thought I was logged in as root, wasn't.
[03:17] <jakke> http://pastebin.com/AdfJW7W2 i modded it thoug. when i did, it did nothing
[03:17] <yagoo> jakke, btw.. is the livecd using nouveau?
[03:17] <King_John> Yagoo, I'll paste it to pastebin
[03:18] <jakke> nouveau?
[03:18] <King_John> Yagoo, http://pastebin.com/E3SNX29g
[03:18] <trap24> i did "sudo apt-get install groovy" and aborted (ctrl+c) the installation at 1%, how to undo any possible sideeffects if any
[03:18] <trap24> ?
[03:19] <yagoo> King_John,  it has to be /dev/sdb despite the ugly message about it in dmesg -- it's 1 meg... ( Disk /dev/sdb: 1 MB, 1474560 bytes )
[03:19] <jakke> yagoo what is nouveau?
[03:19] <SolarisBoy> video driver jakke open source one
[03:19] <King_John> Yagoo, I thought the same thing. Thanks for the help, enjoy your night :)
[03:19] <yagoo> jakke, what driver is the livecd using? -- we'll try xorg.conf alone.. if that fails.. we'll try another driver..
[03:19] <jakke> how do i know if i have it?
[03:19] <yagoo> King_John, np
[03:20] <SolarisBoy> lsmod would show if you have it installed.. not quite sure other than ls in the modules directory to see if you have it..
[03:20] <SolarisBoy> /installed/loaded/
[03:22] <SolarisBoy> or like yagoo mentioned you can also check xorg.conf if you have one to see what driver its using
[03:22] <asterismo> hi everybody
[03:22] <centHOGG> o/
[03:22] <asterismo> i have a couple of questions
[03:22] <jakke> found original xorg, pastebining
[03:22] <SolarisBoy> howdy
[03:23] <b14d3> Dweimer: Still moving data, going to be quite some time. But let's say that I'd like to format it so that it updates to ext4, what are the steps I should take to make sure the mount process goes alright?
[03:23] <jakke> here yagoo http://pastebin.com/Lyx1NkiN
[03:23] <asterismo> since i installed xubuntu 11.10 i noticed that umounting usb pendrives is very unclear
[03:23] <SolarisBoy> reading xorg gives me headaches =(
[03:23] <d3f4c3d> what is most stable ubuntu currently ?
[03:23] <asterismo> i have no certain feedback of what is going on
[03:23] <d3f4c3d> im going to wipe out 11.04
[03:24] <SolarisBoy> asterismo: i think by default it is controlled in the side panel when you mount one it appears there you can right click and eject/safe remove and you would then see it vanish if it was succesful
[03:24] <dweimer> b14d3: If you want to format it to ext4, the only change you need to make to /etc/fstab is to change 'ext2' to 'ext4'. Then once it's formatted you should just be able to run 'mount /server' again.
[03:24] <SolarisBoy> asterismo: you can check dmesg /var/log/messages if you want to see a more verbose output but i think thats the intent to not complex mounting/unmounting drives
[03:25] <pranav> i copied "java-6-sun-1.6.0.24" after creating /usr/jvm. changed the chmod to +R 777. appended to $PATH. reloaded src. but still "java" seems to not work. :(
[03:25] <urlin2u> asterismo, are the icons on the desktop part of your problem.
[03:25] <SolarisBoy> pranav: what did you add to path?
[03:25] <dweimer> b14d3: For the format itself, unmount it first with 'sudo umount /server' then run 'sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1' to format it. Once the format is finished update the fstab and run 'sudo mount /server'
[03:26] <asterismo> SolarisBoy > i use xubuntu desktop and the only place i can click for umounting is the thunar file manager or the desktop icon
[03:26] <pranav> SolarisBoy: JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.24 & export JAVA_HOME then PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
[03:26] <dweimer> b14d3: Remember the '1' in the mkfs command, that's important. And obviously double check that you back everything up. Formatting will remove all of the data on the disk.
[03:26] <jakke> so what should i do now?
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> pranav: why not use the apt-method versus the dl from oracle method?
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> and update-alternatives for java?
[03:27] <pranav> SolarisBoy: i've a mx 15KBps internet :/
[03:27] <yagoo> jakke, i already told ya
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> i think would likely be the preferred method though... do hava another java installed?
[03:28] <jakke> what?
[03:28] <asterismo> when i click on the eject at thunar i have a double contradiction message. one window message says that there was an error umounting the device, and at the same time in the notification bubbles the message says that som edata is being written and do not unplugg the usb
[03:28] <asterismo> but nothing is being written really
[03:28] <pranav> SolarisBoy: no, Iiterally created my jvm folder
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[03:28] <dweimer> In ubuntu is there ever a need to use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' rather than 'apt-get upgrade' ? I used to have to do it with debian, but I can't even remember why at this point.
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> pranav does it fail with command not found?
[03:28] <asterismo> and the eject button stills there and i dont know if it is umounted or not
[03:28] <yagoo> jakke, use that timing modeline into the xorg.. you may need to change a thing or two.. first make an xorg.conf with X -configure (shutdown lightdm or gdm as nec)--
[03:28] <jakke> how?
[03:28] <yagoo> jakke, pastebin the sample generated xorg.conf.new unmodified (note it may say warning with X -configure, but sample file still made in /root)
[03:28] <pranav> SolarisBoy: actually now it says cannot execute binary library
[03:29] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | dweimer
[03:29] <jakke> whay yagoo?
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> pranav: hmm... that file 'java' can you run the file command against it?
[03:29] <jakke> *what?
[03:29] <bazhang> dweimer, not really, no
[03:29] <yagoo> jakke, ctl-alt-f7 (goes to gui), ctl-alt-f1 , do /etc/init.d/lightdm stop, or /etc/init.d/gdm stop (if not using 11.10), then run X -configure, then -> cat ~/xorg.conf.new |pastebinit -t xorgsample
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> pranav: did you actually chmod +x the installer and run it as root or did you just copy some files from another system over?
[03:29] <dweimer> bazhang: Perfect, thanks.
[03:30] <jakke> brb
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> pranav: also try ldd /usr/bin/java but replace that to the path to your java binary... seems there may be an issue with the files them selves... also send command output in pastie as well as this
[03:31] <pranav> SolarisBoy: I just did "sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/lib/jvm"
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> wel...
[03:31] <dfgas> how do i disable compiz?
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> well... it should be 755 technically i believe but w/e
[03:31] <mr0wl> my Ubuntu box is frozen at the graphical boot up
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> thats not how you install java manually
[03:32] <Jonii> Anyone know any good lightweight mp3 player(preferably support for additional audio formats like flac and ogg, that's not required though)? Maybe command line one? Preferably nothing but the ability to play a file, pause it, rewind and fastforward
[03:32] <centHOGG> mr0wl: last time it worked right?
[03:32] <mr0wl> yes
[03:32] <Jonii> Maybe some simple playlist manipulation, but nothing complex
[03:32] <centHOGG> Jonii: xmms
[03:32] <bazhang> !xmms | centHOGG Jonii
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> pranav: you would end up with a file that looks like 'jre-6u29-linux-x64.bin' from wherever you pulled the "installer files"
[03:33] <mr0wl> can I exit to commandline so I can see msgs?
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> pranav: did you do the ldd and file command yet?
[03:33] <centHOGG> yeah use xmms2
[03:33] <pranav> SolarisBoy: 	not a dynamic executable
[03:33] <Jonii> xmms2? okay
[03:33] <bazhang> centHOGG, thats not what she/he wants
[03:33] <pranav> SolarisBoy: in both javac, and java
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> that doesn't seem right mines are
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> and they show what libs they were built against with no errors...
[03:34] <mr0wl> what's the shortcut to exit the graphical boot screen?
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> so if thats a precompiled binary its not working... can you post the output of file and ldd to pastie?
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> file </path/to/java> ; ldd </path/to/java>
[03:35] <Jonii> centHOGG: are you sure? that seems pretty heavyweight client based on description
[03:35] <Jonii> music library stuff etc
[03:35] <pranav> SolarisBoy: no, I actually copied "java-6-sun-1.6.0.24" folder into the directory i created i.e. "jvm". believe me, i have done it before i suppose
[03:35] <pranav> SolarisBoy: the only difference was jvm existed, which wasn'nt now
[03:35] <centHOGG> well i've used it in the past for just spitting out mp3s & flacs
[03:35] <bazhang> Jonii, xmms is for server and client, not what you were asking for at all. audacious is, however
[03:35] <SolarisBoy> heh...
[03:35] <centHOGG> on old computers
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> if that was the case you would have a file not found error
[03:36] <SolarisBoy> can you post the commands to pastie?
[03:36] <Jonii> bazhang: okay, ty
[03:36] <bazhang> pranav, why are you not installing java from the repos?
[03:37] <pranav> bazhang: SolarisBoy i think i would do it now.. :/ 2.5 hrs.
[03:37] <bazhang> !partner > pranav
[03:37] <bazhang> !java | pranav
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> +
[03:37] <pranav> bazhang: i need sun jdk
[03:37] <SolarisBoy> your copy install method failed
[03:38] <SolarisBoy> either get the *bin or install from a repo somehow
[03:38] <Jonii> The word "advanced" in that "advanced audio player" seems worrysome. I'm looking for a player that's really simple. Like, everything not-necessary removed and made permanently non-available
[03:38] <bazhang> pranav, what you are trying is not the method to go about it at all.
[03:38] <Ethek> .
[03:38] <SolarisBoy> +
[03:38] <bazhang> Jonii, its very basic
[03:38] <pranav> nick /trap24
[03:38] <pranav> *sry
[03:38] <bazhang> Jonii, it is skinnnable if you wish, or just ultra basic
[03:38] <bazhang> -n
[03:39] <Jonii> bazhang: okay, i'll try that one out
[03:39] <SolarisBoy> you may be able to copy jar files or something from computer to computer running compatible versions of java,, but i've never heard of a copy folder install...
[03:39] <SolarisBoy> ever
[03:41] <machiolate> how do I extract with 7z to a folder within the same directory? (via command line)
[03:43] <SolarisBoy> 7z e
[03:43] <jakke> can somebody pm me the pastebins i posted?
[03:43] <magpii> my firewall keeps turning off, can someone tell me how to create a log please?
[03:43] <bazhang> jakke, you can check the logs for this channel
[03:43] <bazhang> !1984 | jakke
[03:44] <chiggins> On the ubuntu wiki, it says that my laptop, lenovo s10-3t, the vga external video port works. but for some reason, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't seen to recognize that something is plugged into it. any ideas?
[03:44] <bazhang> magpii, your router firewall? iptables? something else? what do you mean turning off
[03:44] <SolarisBoy> magpii: ufw?
[03:44] <SolarisBoy> ahh same thought paths =)
[03:44] <Jonii> audacious does look a bit too complicated, but I guess it's good enough unless someone knows any simpler music players
[03:45] <scratchingmyhead> my workspace switcher or clock sometimes gets deleted on startup... I know this has been a problem and was wondering if there was ever a fix for it?
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> some said xmms2 already,, thats pretty simple
[03:45] <bazhang> Jonii, you want something command line then?
[03:45] <urlin2u> chiggins, you open the monitors settings app?
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> there was one called mocp that ran in a terminal at one point.. Jonii
[03:45] <bazhang> SolarisBoy, thats for client/server a bit over kill for what he was asking
[03:45] <magpii> i have the firestarter gui up, everytime i click the "start firewall" button, it comes on for a few seconds then i get the red stopped icon up
[03:45] <chiggins> urlin2u - aye, says only the laptop monitor is there
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> bazhang: ahh
[03:46] <SolarisBoy> aplay =)?
[03:47] <justanewbie> what's the difference between directory permission,drwxr-S--- and drwxr-s---,are the s and S the same thing,please help
[03:47] <trap24> SolarisBoy: bazhang: is there a way to tell if the copy of java is 64bit or 32bit ??
[03:47] <Jonii> bazhang: not necessarily, no, but i don't dislike the idea
[03:47] <bazhang> trap24, you're installing from the repos? or just trying to copy paste as before
[03:47] <jakke> logs haven't updated yet
[03:48] <Jonii> But anyway, I tested this, and actually, I think audacious works
[03:48] <bazhang> jakke, should be at the top of the hour
[03:48] <Jonii> Adjusted some settings and now it seems pretty reliable
[03:48] <SolarisBoy> yea cause your going to get an error trying to tell with the copy/paste method apparently =)
[03:48] <jakke> not my pastebins tho
[03:48] <trap24> bazhang: no, I will copy from the repo.. just for the inquiry ?
[03:48] <SolarisBoy> you could run like ldd against it and see which libraries it was built against...if it were working
[03:48] <SolarisBoy> trap24: *install from repo
[03:48] <SolarisBoy> trap24: or install the *bin
[03:48] <justanewbie> what's the difference between directory permission,drwxr-S--- and drwxr-s---,are the s and S the same thing,please help
[03:49] <bazhang> trap24, I hope you mean install from repo, and not copy paste
[03:49] <bazhang> !permissions | justanewbie
[03:49] <trap24> SolarisBoy: I have the bin folder
[03:49] <trap24> in jav
[03:49] <SolarisBoy> trap24: doesn't matter
[03:49] <SolarisBoy> the files are not built for your system
[03:49] <SolarisBoy> install it from the proper place EOS
[03:50] <bazhang> trap24, you realize the bin is not the repos method I hope
[03:50] <SolarisBoy> yes its not preferred.. as initially asked why not use repo but you stated you had slow connection
[03:50] <SolarisBoy> in that case,, if you ARE going to use an alternate method... you should be using the bin file provided by the SV
[03:51] <trap24> SolarisBoy: bazhang ok soln for all -> Repo I suppose.
[03:51] <trap24> thanks
[03:51] <SolarisBoy> np trap24
[03:52] <inference> how can i return a pid within a script by name?
[03:52] <inference> taskset -c 0 (function that fetches pid of(process))
[03:52] <justanewbie> bazhang: i've looked thought the whole tutorial for permissions,but i'm wondering the differences of S and s,chomd g+s <dir>,it give me a uppercase S,but what does lowercase s mean in permissions?
[03:53] <justanewbie> bazhang: is the drwxr-s--- and drwxr-S--- the same thing?
[03:54] <SolarisBoy> lower case is for setgid
[03:55] <hot2trot> ls
[03:56] <untitled_only> sup room?
[03:56] <bazhang> untitled_only, ubuntu support
[03:56] <untitled_only> I kno
[03:57] <madlinuxdrummer> hi all, does anyone know much on screen rotation with combi tablet/laptops?
[03:57] <justanewbie> SolarisBoy: does g+s means give the directory setgid,but it show me a uppercase s?
[03:59] <SolarisBoy> no they are two seperate things.
[03:59] <SolarisBoy> well
[03:59] <SolarisBoy> they mean seperate things
[03:59] <SolarisBoy> S means the user who owns the file does not have x set on it
[03:59] <justanewbie> SolarisBoy: in permission drwxr-s--- ,i can access the directory,but drwxr-S---,i got permission denied error,so i am wondering the differences between them?
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> because you need x set to cd into  a directory as a user most likely...
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> cd into a directory is executing against that directory..
[04:00] <justanewbie> SolarisBoy: how can i set lowercase s to a directory?
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> give the proper user a executable bit on the folder...
[04:01] <justanewbie> SolarisBoy: thank you very much,i see
[04:01] <justanewbie> :D
[04:01] <machiolate> is it normal for 7z to take a very long time to unrar?
[04:01] <SolarisBoy> /wink/
[04:01] <machiolate> seems like its taking forever
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> machiolate: Um, 7z and rar are different formats, for starters.
[04:01] <SolarisBoy> lol that reminds me of those never ending zip files evil people used to make =)
[04:01] <SolarisBoy> hehe
[04:02] <machiolate> it's an expanded version toyyarusso, it supports rar
[04:02] <centHOGG> i like rar
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> i like tar
[04:02] <centHOGG> time for a smoke
[04:02] <SolarisBoy> =0
[04:04] <rodhash> Guys, is there any way to run compiz with xfwm4?? I dont like the way compiz change the window border
[04:04] <bazhang> rodhash, tried asking in #compiz yet?
[04:04] <centHOGG> heh
[04:09] <yagoo> jakke, http://dpaste.com/661060/
[04:10] <yagoo> and I like xar.. it's supposed to be like the successor for tar
[04:10] <centHOGG> whatever floats yur boat
[04:10]  * SolarisBoy was actually waiting on that last archiving fav
[04:11] <SolarisBoy> once they start rolling xar out in commonly used distro's ill use it =)
[04:14] <dissipate> anyone here use amazon s3 and have mounted an s3 bucket in ubuntu 11.10 with s3fs?
[04:14] <SolarisBoy> coooool beans dissipate did not know you could do that
[04:14] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, yep, you can, i did it but i'm getting some weird behavior with the mount. :(
[04:15] <SolarisBoy> im sure its some derivitive of sshfs or similar
[04:15] <SolarisBoy> over the internet at that...
[04:16] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, it uses Fuse actually
[04:17] <SolarisBoy> ohh.. cool fuse logs... fuse versions can often be problematic and show issues like that.. check your logs should be fuse_*.c stuff there
[04:17] <SolarisBoy> *regardless,,, sshfs/fuse/nfs its traversing the interwebs
[04:17] <SolarisBoy> but logs may have some data
[04:18] <dissipate> here's what's happening. i mount the s3 bucket in /mnt just fine, except when i go into /mnt there is nothing there.
[04:18] <dissipate> i have to create a directory with the name matching the name of the directory in the bucket for the files to show up
[04:19] <SolarisBoy> hmm so... does this tool install some tool for mount?
[04:19] <SolarisBoy> mount.*
[04:19] <g665> !ops
[04:19] <dissipate> but this actually causes a file to be created in the bucket itself, and the file size of this new file is being reported as some massive number of bytes causing ubuntu to think i am out of disk space. :(
[04:20] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, yes, the tool is 's3fs'. so you do: s3fs <bucket name> <mount point>
[04:21] <dissipate> e.g.: s3fs mybucket /mnt
[04:21] <bobweaver> Hello there I was wondering what the command to open  "take screenshot " is anyone know ?
[04:21] <bobweaver> form terminal ^^
[04:21] <bobweaver> from *
[04:24] <Sanus> Hey.  I'm back.  Again.
[04:24] <Sanus> I've fixed alsa, just by updating it, and I've fixed the wireless card... by updating it.
[04:24] <Sanus> Down to ATI drivers, and Synaptics Touchpad.
[04:24] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: are you following the how to on code.google.com?
[04:24] <Sanus> So!  Round 3!
[04:25] <Untitled_only> sup
[04:25] <Sanus> Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, Compaq Presario CQ57, specifications on request.  Current problems:  No Video Driver, Touchpad detects as Ps/2 instead of SynPs/2.
[04:26] <Sanus> Will be reposting every now and then, if the spam is bad.
[04:26] <Sanus> But I'm guessing it's not this late at night.
[04:27] <Sanus> Anyone here who might be able to help me?
[04:27] <Untitled_only> with what?
[04:27] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, hmm, pretty much, but i think i might try tweaking something and see if that works.
[04:27] <Sanus> Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, Compaq Presario CQ57, specifications on request.  Current problems:  No Video Driver, Touchpad detects as Ps/2 instead of SynPs/2.
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> dissipate see the troubleshooting section and the suggestions?
[04:28] <Sanus> Can any of you guys help me out?
[04:28] <Untitled_only> did you scan for additional dirvers yet?
[04:28] <Sanus> Yes.  I have.
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> have you checked the log or try mounting with -f?
[04:28] <Sanus> No proprietary drivers, until I installed the wireless business.
[04:29] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, nope, i'm looking at these: http://code.google.com/p/s3fs/w/list
[04:29] <SolarisBoy> what occurs are there errors? also whats the return code of the command? when your complete and you type mount is it observed in the output?
[04:29] <bobweaver> Sanus:  please open your terminal and type in the following  :    lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:30] <bobweaver> and post here please
[04:30] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: precisely http://code.google.com/p/s3fs/wiki/FuseOverAmazon || search (?-i)troubleshooting
[04:30] <rodhash> Guys.. any idea why I have these errors?? --> DRI2SwapBuffers: bad drawable
[04:30] <Sanus> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:9804]
[04:30] <Sanus> Sir yes sir.
[04:32] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, my problem isn't there. :(
[04:32] <SolarisBoy> do you mean you have performed the two exact commands they say to run to troubleshoot and you also have done the above? gotten the return code of the command etc?
[04:33] <SolarisBoy> +mount output or  cat /proc/mounts?
[04:33] <bobweaver> Sanus:  you have seen this ? 1002:9804
[04:33] <bobweaver> sorry
[04:33] <bobweaver> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/858450
[04:33] <bobweaver> that is it Sanus ^^
[04:33] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, no, but i will after i try this tweak. keep in mind i didn't get any errors, just bizarre behavior.
[04:33] <opticlove> hi, i want to make a new partition on my currently active drive and i know i need to boot using a live cd. does it matter what distro i use?
[04:33] <Sanus> bobweaver: I've not seen it.  I'll check it out.
[04:34] <Sanus> I don't have Oneiric.  I have Lucid Lynx.
[04:34] <bobweaver> Sanus:  It is always good idea to file bug
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> dissipate good reason to check the logs and the debug command they have on their wiki
[04:34] <TheBuntu> Whats better mbr or gpt... have a 500 gig hdd
[04:34] <bobweaver> Sanus:  intermina :    lsmod              then pastebin please
[04:35] <Sanus> Don't know what intermina is
[04:35] <bobweaver> terminal
[04:35] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, yep, ill check it out after i try installing s3fs again.
[04:35] <Sanus> Ah
[04:36] <Sanus> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/B0dyPHhh
[04:36] <SolarisBoy> be mindful that you are installing the latest version hopefully that passes all those bugs i see on the code page.. looks like starter software and also open.. so it *should* be getting better version by version i guess
[04:36] <rodhash> any idea someone?
[04:37] <SolarisBoy> rodhash: are you using some graphical application or some compiz plugin for example?
[04:37] <rodhash> SolarisBoy, no just compiz + emerald
[04:38] <OerHeks> !emerald
[04:38] <rodhash> ubottu, I didnt know
[04:38] <SolarisBoy> rodhash: its being reported from X generally when bad code is causing errors for X data flows
[04:38] <SolarisBoy> lol
[04:39] <SolarisBoy> ubottu is so cute
[04:39]  * SolarisBoy blushing
[04:39] <rodhash> SolarisBoy, what can I use instead of emerald?
[04:39] <Sanus> No known alternatives.
[04:39] <SolarisBoy> not sure.. i never really was into it
[04:39] <Sanus> You could just get some good ol' Metacity themes
[04:40]  * SolarisBoy which looks way better to me anyway
[04:40] <Sanus> Emerald won't work well with Natty+ methinks
[04:40] <LinuX2half> Hi, I cannot install Ubuntu because MBR only allows four hard drives and now I cannot create extended partition.
[04:40] <bobweaver> Sanus:  this is what screen looks like ? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/81494122/Screenshot%20at%202011-09-29%2020%3A02%3A48.png
[04:40] <SolarisBoy> 4 primary partitions?
[04:41] <LinuX2half> Yes.
[04:41] <SolarisBoy> heh
[04:41] <d34d1y> How do i disable the default conky config from loading upon restart?
[04:41] <Sanus> Oh god no.  But that is cool.
[04:41] <Sanus> I'm using Lucid Lynx, like I said.  I don't think they use very similar drivers.
[04:41] <SolarisBoy> d34d1y: how did you start it?
[04:42] <SolarisBoy> ahh the config.. move the .*rc out of the ~/ its in
[04:42] <SolarisBoy> or rename it to something else
[04:43] <LinuX2half> The four primary partitions is necessary for my system to operate and I cannot delete either of them, so what else is there to do?
[04:43] <SolarisBoy> get another disk
[04:43] <Mitochondria> How would i go about extracting mulit-rar'd files?
[04:44] <SolarisBoy> Mitochondria: use the first one
[04:44] <SolarisBoy> unrar x firstone
[04:44] <SolarisBoy> it will find the others after you do that. Mitochondria
[04:44] <LinuX2half> Another disk?
[04:44] <SolarisBoy> yes and another mbr on that one
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> and create a partition there
[04:45] <rodhash> SolarisBoy, metacity is used together with compiz?
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> as you have reached the limits in your circumstance apparently
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> rodhash: yes
[04:45] <LinuX2half> So, how exactly could I get another MBR?
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> with another disk
[04:45] <SolarisBoy> lol
[04:46] <SolarisBoy> LinuX2half: whats the requirement for your "partitions"?
[04:46] <SolarisBoy> could you not have 4 LVM mounts or something?
[04:46] <LinuX2half> requirements?
[04:46] <Mitochondria> It's a rar within another rar. So i would have to go to each folder that it extracts with and then add all the separated rars into one folder then extract the exact file.
[04:46] <Mitochondria> What a pain in my ass.
[04:46] <SolarisBoy> why do you need 4 standard partitions.. yes whats the requirements?
[04:46] <_bogus_> hey there... i cant boot my ubuntu anymore :/ it seems its caused by an update... I googled and found a solution using rootdelay=140 on boot line, it worked but my ubuntu takes ages to boot up, and there's also this strange pops in my speakers that wasnt happening before... any ideas ?
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> why do you "need" to have 4 parts of a drive cutup and CANT do smoething like LVM?
[04:47] <SolarisBoy> judging the situation you are in..
[04:47] <LinuX2half> The four partitions were pre-installed into my computer after I've bought it.
[04:47] <LinuX2half> it is: System, HP Tools, Recovery, Local Disk.
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> recovery disk and the hpa on the drive wont get touched anyway
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> so thats no worries..
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> hp tools not sure about
[04:48] <SolarisBoy> system i assume is your OS? so what is your aim right now.. you are INSTALLING an OS.. it needs to sit somewhere...
[04:49] <SolarisBoy> in your case i would say get another disk.
[04:49] <LinuX2half> Yes, I'm planning to create an extended partition but since I cannot partition anymore, I cannot do so.
[04:49] <SolarisBoy> heh
[04:49] <SolarisBoy> should plan for success
[04:51] <LinuX2half> So you're saying I should get any hard drive?
[04:51] <centHOGG> what?
[04:51] <dariushall21> Hello, can someone help me install MacBuntu on 11.10? I can't figure it out, I've tried serveral tutorials.
[04:51] <LinuX2half> *another
[04:52] <SolarisBoy> no im saying get another drive if you have run out of partitioning options and judging your situation
[04:52] <_bogus_> hey there... i cant boot my ubuntu anymore :/ it seems its caused by an update (device not found, referenced by uuid, but i set off the use of uuid in /etc/default/grub) ... I googled and found a solution using rootdelay=140 on boot line, it worked but my ubuntu takes ages to boot up
[04:53] <_bogus_> any ideas on how to fix that ?
[04:54] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, it looks like the change to my script solved one of my problems, but i still have a file being reported as having a huge file size.
[04:54] <LinuX2half> I'm not sure how I could get another disk.
[04:55] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: that would honestly be something you can post to that wiki page if it's open, seems they have google groups.. other than logging errors that are normal no clue what its doing and how the amazon api reads it and vice versa
[04:55] <dariushall21> Anytime I try to open the install.sh it just flashes terminal then closes, I even edited the code as the tutorial I followed said to do.
[04:55] <SolarisBoy> LinuX2half: purchase one.. open the computer attach it ensure it is recognized boot up ubuntu and observe if it gives the option to install there.
[04:56] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, i just can't believe no one else out there isn't having this problem S3 is a popular service. people must be trying to mount their S3 buckets.
[04:57] <dariushall21> Does anyone here know anything about Ubuntu One? I want to restore a backup
[04:57] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: i use s3 all the time, i've never had a need to mount a bucket for anything
[04:58] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, so how do you access your s3 files from ubuntu?
[04:58] <SolarisBoy> at most i can use s3cmd to script stuff out if needed but s3 is intended to be *cloud* storage i think thats a horrible misuse of it
[04:58] <SolarisBoy> s3cmd
[04:58] <SolarisBoy> or s3browser in ff depending on if i really feel like opening a big stinky browser to see some files or not
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> well upload database dumps,, FS dumps, web assets/images, etc out to s3 *from* the instances mainly.. only when doing obscure stuff like migrating AMIs across regions ever did i need to access s3 really from home
[05:00] <LinuX2half> So I would need to purchase another disk and attach it to the original hard drive, then boot it up to see if it allows installation?
[05:00] <SolarisBoy> attache it to the system bus yes
[05:01] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, i haven't used s3cmd, is that one good?
[05:01] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: yes it also works =)
[05:01] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, i'm trying to download source code tarballs that i have stored in S3.
[05:02] <SolarisBoy> thats probably a WAYYY better idea than mounting it over the internet to some buggy/hacky/weird developers weird misuse of s3 storage
[05:02] <SolarisBoy> s3cmd is more like curl/lftp... simple just dl the files.. tons of other options,, CRUD stuff ,, batch stuff etc
[05:02] <wolfman3k5> has anyone seen Motherfucker James? (that's his real name btw.)
[05:04] <SolarisBoy> dissipate it will also self configure based on passed in values interactively,, basically i install it, run it with s3cmd -configure or something similar feed it key and skey.. and your done,, s3 is available and working
[05:04] <dr3mro> after the latest big updates yesterday ubuntu is faster and more stable
[05:04]  * SolarisBoy goes to update machine
[05:04] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, cool. ill check it out.
[05:04] <dr3mro> but why all of these updates together it's almost 180mb
[05:05] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: cool.
[05:05] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, the reason why mounting a bucket is more convenient for me is because i'm setting up my servers via puppet. the idea was to symlink puppet's files directories to my mounted s3 bucket.
[05:05] <SolarisBoy> umm
[05:05] <SolarisBoy> dude..
[05:05] <SolarisBoy> make puppet use s3cmd
[05:06] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, that's what i'm going to do.
[05:06] <SolarisBoy> cool beans
[05:06] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: ever use chef?
[05:07] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, but it's not as clean. if i could symlink the s3 bucket i can use 'source => /modules/...'
[05:07] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, nope. have heard of it though.
[05:07] <SolarisBoy> whats your aim in general? and are these on ec2 instances? or are you doing this on some phys servers (which would be a little weird to opt cloud storage down to phy boxes)
[05:08] <dr3mro> hello
[05:08] <push> Unable to load OSS here..
[05:08] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: chef owns puppet, chef is puppets poppa =)
[05:08] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, these are all EC2 instances. my aim is to set up my AWS web app using puppet when the AMI launches. i need to download my source code from my S3 bucket to do that.
[05:09] <push> cant load ...../dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[05:09] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: there are better ways to do it... i consult for many cloud based environments
[05:09] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: do you EIP all those instances "mounting" cloud storage?
[05:10] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, is chef less popular than puppet? not that it matters, just curious as to why puppet seems to be more prevalent.
[05:10] <SolarisBoy> if not expect broken links and disaster
[05:10] <blackcatnekonegr> Hello, what was the command to force a reinstall of ubuntu?
[05:10] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: people prefer simplicity,, when you look at chef configs,, you see yaml and raw ruby... but its tons more powerful
[05:11] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, nope.
[05:11] <SolarisBoy> my job is stuck on silly puppet,, i demo'd chef for them they were in awe... but then they settled to stick with puppet,, because the configs "look easier"
[05:11] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: so how will the mount function once the IP changes? which can happen randomly without instance bouncing
[05:12] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, personally i'm not liking config management at all, so i'm actually not keen on either. :O
[05:12] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, ? why ?
[05:12] <SolarisBoy> well you need something in the cloud if you have something scalable going on
[05:12] <blackcatnekonegr> dr3mro, some messed up update, thats why
[05:13] <SolarisBoy> else you need to MASTER your AMI's which is probably harder considering the small variances of running redundant systems... like you know.. not having duplicate settings in configs that freak things out and such...
[05:13] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, because you missed update you like to reinstall ??
[05:13] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, i'm using amazon's internal IPs with puppet, so those don't change. as for the mount, i'm assuming since the instance is connecting to S3, it doesn't matter of the instance's IP changes.
[05:13] <SolarisBoy> this is where the config manager comes in.. and where chef dominates... but in your case i would do s3cmd back down..
[05:13] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, what error message you get ?
[05:13] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: its mounting s3...
[05:14] <blackcatnekonegr> dr3mro, because I cannot log in in the gui I wanna reinstall, thats what I call MESSED UP update, sorry, don't want to be sure, but the last update messed up my os
[05:14] <SolarisBoy> if the IP address changes im sure thats disrupting the communication protocol underlying whatever the application level THINKS it may be doing
[05:14] <SolarisBoy> and no mount or stale mount occurs
[05:14] <SolarisBoy> creating stale links.. broken app etc..
[05:14] <blackcatnekonegr> *rude
[05:15] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, ok . what happens when you start your pc , do you get error message ?
[05:15] <push> unable to install packeages error ...cannot stat `/usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/ztemt.ko'
[05:15] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, well i'm convinced. no s3fs for me. :O
[05:15] <SolarisBoy> much more feasible to do a pull down.. which you can retry... cron it out s3cmd has a rsync feature as well
[05:15] <SolarisBoy> its rather cool
[05:15] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: indeed
[05:16] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, yeah, i'll just use puppet's 'exec' to do an s3cmd to pull down and untar the source files.
[05:16] <SolarisBoy> yea thats simply scripted.. is the tar named something sane? if so.. its a breeze in puppet even
[05:16] <Nuked> Allahu Akbar!
[05:17] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, BTW, i wonder if puppet is popular because sysadmins don't want to have to learn Ruby? :O
[05:17] <dr3mro> Nuked, welcome
[05:17] <Nuked> dr
[05:17] <Nuked> dr3mro, thank you
[05:17] <SolarisBoy> smh ruby rules the world... all the sysadmins at my job are stuck on perl for some odd reason
[05:17] <dr3mro> Nuked, do you speek arabic ?
[05:17] <SolarisBoy> i can't stand perl with all the -> around and stuff,, so unreadable looks like chicken scratch ;<
[05:18] <Nuked> dr3mro, a bit actually
[05:18] <dr3mro> Nuked, good
[05:18] <dr3mro> Nuked, good  for you
[05:18] <Nuked> dr3mro, alhamdulilah
[05:18] <dr3mro> Nuked, do you have a problem ?
[05:18] <SolarisBoy> i purposely do NOT do things in perl to annoy people... so funny i get my scripts done in so much less time.. and they work .. but thats because OO wasn't an afterthought for ruby....
[05:19] <Nuked> indeed I do, I can't figure out where to configure login manager
[05:19] <dr3mro> Nuked, what version of ubuntu do you have installed \
[05:19] <Nuked> oneiric
[05:19] <dr3mro> Nuked, good .
[05:20] <Nuked> dr3mro, I wanted to know if perhaps there is a way to use a custom theme for the login manager
[05:20] <push> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[05:20] <push> error on ossplay -l
[05:21] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: right now chef is managing ec2 configs and as autoscale kicks up it performs a look up on the proc table, mounted disks, etc, and shoots a clean nagios config file into place and restart the service.. adding monitoring for each instance.. when it spins down we remove the instance.. so our monitoring autoscales with the aws env =)
[05:22] <SolarisBoy> for example
[05:22] <dr3mro> nuked found it wait ill give you a link
[05:22] <Nuked> dr3mro, thank you
[05:23] <RageSith> lo everybody
[05:23] <dr3mro> nuked http://www.ubuntugeek.com/simple-lightdm-manager.html
[05:24] <Nuked> dr3mro, I will look that up
[05:24] <dr3mro> Nuked, go there and you will find what you want
[05:24] <Nuked> dr3mro, jazakallahu khairan
[05:24] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, sounds awesome. are the config templates full blown RoR?
[05:25] <RageSith> whenever i try to upload a file via ftp containing special chars like ö,ä,ü or i try to type them via vim into a filrs somestrange letter appear instead
[05:25] <dr3mro> Nuked, wa eyakom :)
[05:25] <RageSith> is there a way to activate any German Layout serverwide?
[05:26] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: yes full blown ruby
[05:26] <RageSith> so i can use all those ä,ü.ö and so on?
[05:26] <starn> hello, can anyone help me with Ampache?
[05:27] <dissipate> SolarisBoy, sweet. sounds like chef is more powerful indeed.
[05:29] <SolarisBoy> dissipate: the file classes are nuts.. they have something actually called a templating mechanism which references config files.. it generally rebuilds stuff for you based on replacing variables in files like httpd.conf you can use it for the config management,, it uses something called recipes.. for instance a recipe called lamp may spin a bare server into a lamp server in seconds!!,, (you dont need to say windows/linux/unix it can
[05:29] <SolarisBoy> brb
[05:29] <grendal-prime> unity blows
[05:30] <grendal-prime> seriously...there needs to be a revolt of some sort
[05:30] <blackcatnekonegr> Hello, what was that gnome program that allowed you to burn ubuntu isos in ush flash drives?
[05:30] <Nuked> grendal-prime, that's your opinion
[05:31] <grendal-prime> oneday soon there will be a page called the top 10 things to do with ubuntu after you install it...the first item will be two install the gnome3-shell
[05:31] <SolarisBoy> other awesome thing is (last thing i promise) ,, its so opensource... right now there are hundreds of recipes people from all over the world have put together,, you can get up and running and download a repo locally and just use already working stuff.. =)... such a win. brb
[05:31] <dissipate> grendal-prime, installation of gnome is just a couple clicks away.
[05:31] <grendal-prime> ya..
[05:31] <grendal-prime> i just cant belive how lame it is.
[05:32] <dissipate> grendal-prime, in case you haven't heard though, there is a revolt. people are defecting to linux mint, because apparently they can't figure out how to install gnome.
[05:32] <grendal-prime> good.
[05:32] <grendal-prime> isnt mint based on ubuntu?  or is a direct decendent of debian
[05:33] <grendal-prime> im seriously thinking about just going back to using debian proper.
[05:33] <dissipate> grendal-prime, there are both debian and ubuntu based versions of mint.
[05:33] <Nuked> dissipate, that's ridiculos
[05:33] <dissipate> Nuked, why?
[05:33] <blackcatnekonegr> dissipate, or they are using xubuntu, I really need that program to burn ubuntu isos into usb flash drives, computer does not have a dvd or cd reader
[05:33] <starn> does anyone know anything about ampache?
[05:33] <grendal-prime> been using this for 9+ years now...this thig sucks.
[05:34] <blackcatnekonegr> starn, don't you mean apache?
[05:34] <grendal-prime> blackcatnekonegr,  did you try the startup disk creator?
[05:34] <A|i3N> simple question, possibly a "no" question lol. Ya know how u can send output to a file (e.g. "man kill >> kill.txt)? Is there a way to send output straight to your clipboard? Like instead of making a file and copy/paste to where you want it, just send it to the clipboard?
[05:34] <grendal-prime> you can point whatever iso to a usb stick
[05:34] <starn> blackcatnekonegr: no ampache...
[05:35] <Nuked> dissipate, how hard could it be to install gnome 3
[05:35] <starn> blackcatnekonegr: it does use apache though..
[05:35] <dissipate> Nuked, not too hard as far as i know.
[05:35] <dissipate> Nuked, but leave it to people to change their entire OS.
[05:36] <grendal-prime> there are allot of really "challenged" people that are using ubuntu as a cheep varriant of a mac desktop
[05:36] <dissipate> i'm not opposed to unity, i just wish they had let it bake longer before making it the default.
[05:36] <grendal-prime> trust me i set them up  for them.
[05:36] <blackcatnekonegr>  grendal-prime, than you, is that one, last update really messed up lubuntu so I am installing it over with a usb flash drive
[05:36] <grendal-prime> exactly dissipate
[05:36] <dissipate> grendal-prime, then unity should appeal to them...
[05:37] <grendal-prime> dissipate, nope..they are all.."what do i do?"
[05:37] <starn> i keep getting 404 errors.. when everything appears to be setup correctly. and the address is http://localhost/ampache
[05:37] <grendal-prime> and im all like..here...just do this then that then feel it out...
[05:37] <DarkLinux_7> hello fellow hackers :)
[05:37] <dissipate> grendal-prime, well in that case, we know where ubuntu is heading...
[05:37] <grendal-prime> remember the mac wheel computer...thats what it reminds me of
[05:38] <sln45> On Natty with Gnome 2 and no Unity. I want something to make "web applications" like Prism/WebRunner used to, like what Gnome 3 is going to be able to do.
[05:38] <sln45> Any suggestions?
[05:38] <grendal-prime> everything is just a few hundred clicks away
[05:39] <grendal-prime> here is a tape on the left...no not everything is visible...and you have to point to everything on it to get a tool tip to see what it is...yes that seems a bit like those pictures on the wall of the pyramids but thats progress...read? no use pictures.
[05:39] <grendal-prime> oh by the way pictures you have not seen on anything ever before?
[05:40] <sln45> Uh. Am I actually in the Ubuntu support channel?
[05:40] <blackcatnekonegr> sln45, Gnome 3 is... it feels like a beta, I understand why they removed backtrack compatibility, but even basic stuff had to be done with command lines,
[05:41] <sln45> blackcatnekonegr:... Right. So do you know of anything I could use to make these "web apps"?
[05:41] <sln45> They're essentially browser windows without any toolbars. Just a simple window displaying a webpage.
[05:42] <rigel> this is probably a mildly silly question, BUT....
[05:42] <sln45> They run independently of internet browsers, though. I want that in gnome 2.
[05:42] <sln45> rigel: Ask away
[05:42] <devkorcvince> sln45 you can create a python gtk+ and webkit app or vala gtk+ and webkit combo for that
[05:42] <rigel> i want to reinstall/upgrade from a cd, and want to nuke my settings but dont want to format my /home partition
[05:42] <sln45> devkorvince: Woah. Sounds above my skillset.
[05:43] <rigel> i can just boot into the cd, delete /etc, /opt, and /home/user/settingsfiles, and reinstall and that should be fine, yes?
[05:44] <sln45> rigel: It formats the whole thing by default. You wouldn't keep your files that way.
[05:44] <rigel> sln45: uh. you can do it manually.
[05:44] <DarkLinux_7> rigel:if you keep ubuntu installed and boot and try to install it again it should give you an option at some point to keep your home folder and user intact
[05:44] <rigel> i always do, because the auto-partitioner sucks balls
[05:44] <aaronh5> anyone know why a command like this would work? "tar xzf $PWD/untar/test.tgz"
[05:44] <aaronh5> wouldnt*
[05:44] <sln45> rigel: I'm going to shut up then. I have no expertise whatsoever.
[05:44] <rigel> sln45: clearly
[05:44] <rigel> and thanks
[05:45] <sln45> rigel:No need to be obnoxious, jeez.
[05:45] <rigel> DarkLinux_7: well some settings are in the aforementioned /etc and /opt
[05:45] <isekc> hello
[05:45] <rigel> also its kind of irritating that i will have to reinstall all the packages and PPAs
[05:46] <sln45> devkorvince: You never finished your sentence. It ended on "for"
[05:46] <rigel> is there something that can collect those for me so that i can reinstall them as a batch job or something
[05:47] <aaronh5> why does the tar command only work when i am in the same directory as the file i am extracting.. i cant use a path
[05:48] <devkorcvince> sln45: oh the easiest way for ubuntu is using python gtk+ and webkit cause vala needs more libs to install... I will post a video cast just a moment
[05:48] <DarkLinux_7> rigel: yea just make a script that has a repeating apt-get install "packagename", it takes a while to write but if u use synaptic to get your pkg names and ppa's from the sources you shouldnt have a problem
[05:48] <rigel> synaptic?
[05:48] <rigel> i have always used apt-get
[05:48] <kanhiya> help me solve my UBuntu 11.10 bluetooth problem
[05:49] <DarkLinux_7> rigel: just type each command on a new line as if you were installing ur packages via terminal
[05:49] <devkorcvince> sln45: i think this is a good cast http://tuxradar.com/content/python-pygtk-webkit-20-minutes
[05:49] <RageSith> how i can change a file from ASCII text to UTF-8 Unicode (with BOM) text, with CRLF line terminators?
[05:49] <kanhiya> i am not able to send or receive files via bluetooth
[05:49] <kanhiya> permission denied(13) appears
[05:49] <kanhiya> i don't know what the hell  developers are doing
[05:49] <rigel> how am i supposed to pull a list of all the packages and PPAs (with keys)
[05:50] <rigel> thats what i'm asking, basically
[05:50] <sln45> devkorvince: Oh, wow! Cool. So I can learn about the basics, and then I should be able to figure out how to create something like what I need?
[05:50] <kanhiya> when everything is working fine, than there is no need to update this
[05:50] <Pratz_> Hi, since I upgraded to 11.10 various things have broken. I don't want to do a complete format. Is there any way to repair/reinstall?
[05:50] <DarkLinux_7> then save the script as .sh and right click it, go to permissions, and tick run as pgram.
[05:50] <kanhiya> bluetooth was working well in 11.04 but in 11.10 , it really ____
[05:51] <rigel> DarkLinux_7: i understand how to run a shell script. i want to know how to create the list of installed packages and PPAs with associated keys
[05:51] <kanhiya> Any suggestion to install previous bluetooth version
[05:51] <rigel> so that i can write a script in the first place
[05:51] <kanhiya> in UBuntu 11.10
[05:51] <kanhiya> i like Gnome shell & don't want to revert to ubuntu 11.04 & updating there
[05:52] <kanhiya> or i will have to switch Linux Mint :)
[05:53] <DarkLinux_7> you can google that, i know theres a command to get all installed package names... um the ppas however im now sure of
[05:53] <kanhiya> Bluetooth & wi-fi are now widely used, they should be properly maintained by canonical
[05:54] <trap24> I used "apt-get install sun-java6-jdk", for like  1 hours it went to 91%, and then something broke the download.. what should i do now to resume :{
[05:54] <trap24> SolarisBoy: bazhang I used "apt-get install sun-java6-jdk", for like  1 hours it went to 91%, and then something broke the download.. what should i do now to resume :{
[05:54] <DarkLinux_7> trap24: chek for corrupt packages, then try reinstalling
[05:54] <bullgard4> If the file mode is given (octal) as »100664«, what does that mean? See 'man tcpdump'.
[05:55] <kanhiya> Anybody here who has same type of Bluetooth problem
[05:55] <kanhiya> :)
[05:55] <trap24> DarkLinux_7: you mean start from 0%
[05:55] <trap24> ?
[05:55] <trap24> i used sudp apt-get update
[05:55] <trap24> already.. all was right
[05:55] <DarkLinux_7> basically yeah... or you could use synaptic
[05:56] <Panaman> !nick Panamannn
[05:56] <Panaman> !help
[05:56] <A|i3N> If I install ubuntu into my car's onboard computer, can I do sudo apt-get gas to fill up?
[05:56] <skyball> i've downloaded SuperTuxKart, and it is Awesome.  Except no joysticks have worked for me yet, I've tried two.  The application sees them, and I can configure buttons, but I cannot seem to race with the joystick, only keyboard. :(    Can anyone help?
[05:57] <trap24> DarkLinux --fix-missing wont do ??
[05:57] <DarkLinux_7> skyball: check your harware settings for the joysticks
[05:57] <DarkLinux_7> trap24: it mich
[05:58] <kanhiya> ubottu: have you ever had bluetooth problem with ubuntu 11.10
[05:58] <DarkLinux_7> trap24: might*
[05:58] <kanhiya> ubottu: help
[05:59] <skyball> hardware settings for the joysticks?  whats that?  I go into Options > Controls and see Keyboard and whatever joystick I have plugged in.  I can double-click it and assign buttons, but the game will not play in anything but keyboard controls it behaves.
[05:59] <kanhiya> BLUETOOTH PROBLEM
[06:00] <kanhiya> Help community
[06:00] <kanhiya> :)
[06:00] <grendal-prime> oh also drobos blow (just something else i was trying to integrate into our servers this last week)
[06:00] <trap24> DarkLinux_7: SolarisBoy it worked --fix-missing :)
[06:01] <trap24> saved like 1.5hrs
[06:01] <yagoo> A|i3N, no. Because your oil mostly from us.. otherwise you're back to horse and wagon.
[06:01] <yagoo> A|i3N, our oil ain't free. :p
[06:02] <kanhiya> My friend laughed at me , i was showing them , how good linux is, than one of them asked to send files via bluetooth & nothing worked, i was not expecting that, because bluetooth was working well in previous versions
[06:02] <kanhiya> i don't know , why to spoil one thing when something is working really well
[06:03] <centHOGG> this is true
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> just got back
[06:03] <Dante_> hi
[06:03] <kanhiya> i think i will have to revert to Linux mint
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> heya
[06:03] <kanhiya> Thanks , community
[06:05] <avernos> after adding an ssh identity, i can delete the file?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> grendal-prime: ew @ drobos lol
[06:06] <bullgard4> If the file mode is given (octal) as »100664«, what does that mean? See 'man tcpdump'.
[06:06] <kmthein> Hi I installed mailx and postfix packages in Ubuntu 11.10. But I can't send out email and have been troubleshooting. I was surprised that there is no mail file in /usr/bin/mail and /bin/mail. Why are they not there?
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> trap24: im lost what you were fixing =)
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> kmthein: try mailx also?
[06:07] <grendal-prime> kanhiya, ya one rule i have is ...use the lts.
[06:08] <trap24> SolarisBoy: hehe :P anyway.. the sun-java download broke @ 99% or so after 1.5hrs.. i did --fix-missing and it resumed after fixing the software sources, it resumed and installed.
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> kmthein: where are you sending mail to?
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> trap24: ohh haha.. yes the slow connection.. wow 1.5 hours for java ouch!
[06:08] <grendal-prime> i mean people think im crazy  cause you now two years in and its not going to be very cutting edge..but things like bluetooth...the seem to work pretty damn well in lts
[06:09] <trap24> SolarisBoy: But I was not waiting.. i was doing useful work around.
[06:09] <r4y> how do I update boot grub from the terminal?
[06:09] <trap24> SolarisBoy: beside, I am going to upgrade my package in ISP. now.. byes!
[06:09] <somsip> r4y: sudo update-grub
[06:09] <r4y> Thank you
[06:09] <SolarisBoy> i had a thing like that for me at one location the connection was throttle beyond belief,, since we were all running same ubuntu versions and hardware i just setup a local repo and had everyone point to me.. i would update before i left and everyone would update from me on the lan in turn,, way faster at the xpense of one box
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> peace
[06:10] <r4y> Man, I need to save that command. Thank you for the help.
[06:10] <trap24> SolarisBoy: they had a local server setup for repo.. but somehow it was down today.. so, beside it has outdated versions.. so
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> thats helpful
[06:13] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: yes, u r right but ubuntu 10.04 doesn't support my wifi
[06:13] <kanhiya> so, i can't use that
[06:14] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: I will have to wait 6 month for LTS :(
[06:14] <grendal-prime> kanhiya, ?  what is your wifi?
[06:15] <kanhiya> broadcom 4313
[06:15] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: Broadcom 4313
[06:16] <grendal-prime> http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[06:18] <grendal-prime> and if the packages dont work there is always the ndis wrapper app.
[06:18] <grendal-prime> my parrents machine has been running on that for over 2 years now
[06:19] <phunyguy> I seem to not be able to burn DVD Video discs or create DVD video ISO files in brasero with the following error: Impossible to link plugin pads.
[06:19] <phunyguy> for reference, I am adding a vob file to be made into a DVD to play in a standalone player
[06:20] <grendal-prime> kanhiya,   says           4313 2.4 Ghz	    0x14e4	0x4727 		Dell 1501  is supported
[06:20] <grendal-prime> sometimes you have to kick things around a bit before they work
[06:20] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: this is a big task for normal user, compiling etc
[06:21] <grendal-prime> ?
[06:21] <grendal-prime> says there are packaged drivers
[06:21] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: I like GNOME 3, it is available in UBuntu 10.04
[06:21] <kanhiya> ?
[06:22] <grendal-prime> Broadcom STA is a binary-only device driver to support the following IEEE
[06:22] <grendal-prime> 802.11a/b/g/n wireless network cards: BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and
[06:22] <grendal-prime> BCM4322.
[06:22] <FloodBot1> grendal-prime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <blackcatnekonegr>  kanhiya, why do you like gnome 3? do you prefer command line configuration?
[06:22] <grendal-prime> kanhiya, i cant tell the diff in lts and gnome3...i mean other than gnome3 seems to be missing allot of tthings
[06:23] <yagoo> phunyguy, did u apt-cache search brasero?
[06:23] <grendal-prime> blackcatnekonegr, i swear it should be mandatory that people try the lts first..
[06:23] <phunyguy> yagoo, what would I be searching for?
[06:23] <kanhiya> blackcatnekonegr: NO, i like it's look
[06:23] <phunyguy> brasero is installed
[06:24] <yagoo> phunyguy, dunno.. maybe there's an extra brasero addon package
[06:24] <blackcatnekonegr> grendal-prime, I dislike linux long commands, dos had much shorter command lines
[06:24] <grendal-prime> kanhiya, it looks exactly the same.
[06:24] <phunyguy> yagoo, nope
[06:24] <blackcatnekonegr> brasero does have a 64 bit version, right?
[06:24] <phunyguy> seems to be a fundamental feature of brasero, but it doesn't work.
[06:24] <grendal-prime> kanhiya, did you even try the lts?
[06:25] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: yes, 10.04 has different looks,
[06:25] <grendal-prime> ya and it wors
[06:25] <phunyguy> blackcatnekonegr, why wouldn't it?
[06:25] <grendal-prime> works
[06:25] <somsip> blackcatnekonegr: yes it does
[06:25] <ubuntu> hello
[06:25] <grendal-prime> hello
[06:25] <phunyguy> hello
[06:26] <grendal-prime> myname is grendal-prime
[06:26] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, linux commands are short
[06:27] <grendal-prime> also kanhiya  10.04 has a tone of tweaks you can install to make it LOOK different.
[06:27] <blackcatnekonegr> weird, I cannot find K3b despite the fact it is installed
[06:28] <somsip> blackcatnekonegr: lowwercase? k3b
[06:28] <kanhiya> grendal-prime: yes, i tried 8.04 on my first laptop but sound card not detected & resolution was only up to 800x600, while my laptop was able to provide higher res.
[06:28] <grendal-prime> thats 804 thats 2 years older
[06:28] <kanhiya> in 8.10 sound card detected but display problem was same
[06:28] <yagoo> blackcatnekonegr, if its not in the menu, simply reloggin meowww
[06:29] <kanhiya> in 10.04 , i changed my laptop & wifi was not working any more
[06:29] <kanhiya> everything else was fine
[06:29] <blackcatnekonegr> lubuntu is recomended for netbooks
[06:30] <blackcatnekonegr> okay, it says "MaxReports" value is fullfilled, how I delete old reports?
[06:31] <yagoo> blackcatnekonegr, thought unity was recommended for netbooks
[06:31] <kanhiya> in 11.04 , everything was good but some tweak needed because wireless was slow &  sometimes weak signal detected on Atheros Wireless
[06:31] <grendal-prime> ya kanhiya...i just read the compile for your driver...its painfully simple
[06:31] <blackcatnekonegr> yagoo, your news are about two years old, lubuntu is lighter than unity
[06:31] <vf2nsr> hi Just installed Ubuntu 11.10  on a laptop  previously had XP  I  reformatted adn installed from CD all i sgood but when I log to my account I  get no top  bar or launch window, the  only  place I can see it is if I log onto guest account.   How can I remedsy this
[06:32] <yagoo> blackcatnekonegr, lightdm is much lighter than gdm..
[06:32] <grendal-prime> i have to do something similar for my...Physical nic on my netbooks.  (werid but the wifi works fine out of the box)  anyway..you just put the stuff in a dir,  when you upgrade your kernel..you just run the recompile and reboot and yoru done.
[06:32] <yagoo> lightdm optimized for unity
[06:33] <babin> excuse me experts
[06:33] <grendal-prime> its really not that hard.  as opposed to learing some compleatly new (still in testing) desktop manager.
[06:33] <blackcatnekonegr> yagoo, there are many light gui, but not everyone is as easy to install like lubuntu, lubuntu is one of the light linux distros around
[06:33] <kanhiya> Banshee also disappointed me , hangs many times, Rhythmbox works like a charm
[06:33] <kanhiya> there was alternative, so i dis
[06:34] <kanhiya> dis
[06:34] <kanhiya> did
[06:34] <kanhiya> :)
[06:34] <yagoo> blackcatnekonegr, can you show me a benchmark test between lubuntu and ubuntu11.10/unity ?
[06:34] <babin> im using Lenovo Thinkpad with Windows 7 professional if i replace with ubuntu 11.10 drivers and software will work on it ? pls suggest me
[06:34] <kanhiya> babin: NO
[06:34] <babin> y is cant possiible huh
[06:35] <grendal-prime> babin..there is a tester.. allows you to try it before yo uinstall
[06:35] <kanhiya> babin: some might work using wine
[06:35] <grendal-prime> sorry install that is
[06:35] <babin> oh ok pls give me the link for that
[06:35] <blackcatnekonegr>  lubuntu can be used without knowing much, and it has low hardware requirements, so yeah, is better than unity for netbooks, at least for me.
[06:35] <grendal-prime> babin its the desktop install
[06:35] <grendal-prime> it will come up and ask you.."do you just want to try this or install it?"
[06:35] <kanhiya> babin: I suggest u to have a dual boot system
[06:36] <babin> ok but i need to install all drivers is it possible just like vga audio finger print wireless lan etc
[06:36] <grendal-prime> No
[06:36] <grendal-prime> dont do that
[06:36] <grendal-prime> try it first
[06:36] <vf2nsr> hi Just installed Ubuntu 11.10  on a laptop  previously had XP  I  reformatted adn installed from CD all i sgood but when I log to my account I  get no top  bar or launch window, the  only  place I can see it is if I log onto guest account.
[06:36] <gelf> agreed
[06:36] <babin> hmmmm
[06:36] <yagoo> blackcatnekonegr, it may seem faster.. but you have no ground arguments to convince me its any better.. show me a benchmark then i'll try lubuntu.. otherwise you talk like a loony clickhead :p
[06:36] <grendal-prime> dual boot involves repartioning the drive first just run try it mode and see if its going to do what you want and that there are already drivers
[06:37] <babin> My Laptop is Lenovo E520-1143
[06:37] <kanhiya> babin: but before installing UBuntu check whether everything u need is working fine or not in it
[06:37] <grendal-prime> ya with the "try it" optioni
[06:37] <kanhiya> vf2nsr: Reinstall
[06:37] <blackcatnekonegr> yagoo, I would show you a benchmark, but lubuntu went crazy after my last update, so yeah reinstalling it right now...
[06:37] <vf2nsr> done that 4 times
[06:37] <vf2nsr> 2 from cd
[06:37] <vf2nsr> and 2 from usb
[06:38] <babin> ok how can i check the compatablity is there any link for it
[06:38] <ex0a> is the radeon driver gallium based or would i need another driver to test out gallium3d?
[06:38] <vf2nsr> same results when ever I go into my account nothing  but file     no settings
[06:38] <grendal-prime> i dont think reinstalling is going to help that
[06:38] <vf2nsr> no programs
[06:38] <grendal-prime> is this..on 11.10?
[06:38] <capcook> i saw floodbot at about 1:00 AM CEST, then floodbot2 and now floodbot3...
[06:38] <kanhiya> babin: Just try it
[06:38] <vf2nsr> yes
[06:39] <grendal-prime> vf2nsr, that is a testing distro..try 10.04 lts first.
[06:39] <vf2nsr> I have also done teh 242 updates after intial install
[06:39] <vf2nsr> ok  I went with teh main download from home page thanks
[06:39] <grendal-prime> thats pretty normal on a testing distro
[06:40] <kanhiya> vf2nsr: yes, try LTS first
[06:40] <babin> ok  but now i have drive as C,D,E i have already tooked backup image of C drive , is it possible to install ubuntu 11.10 with out deleteing those 2 partitions D and E
[06:40] <grendal-prime> the lts is Long term support.  you get 3 years support on that  and 5 on server.
[06:40] <grendal-prime> (if i remember right)
[06:41] <kanhiya> you have only C, D, E
[06:41] <grendal-prime> vf2nsr,   i run over 80 machines on lts daily.  all around reliability...lts
[06:41] <Mitochondria> If you don't need C, you install Ubuntu on C
[06:41] <vf2nsr> ty for assistance
[06:41] <Mitochondria> I prefer 11.04 to 11.10 myself though
[06:41] <vf2nsr> time to download and  burn
[06:41] <vf2nsr> bbl
[06:42] <Mitochondria> You don't need to burn OS's.......
[06:42] <blackcatnekonegr> Mitochondria, ditto that 11.10 has been giving me some problems
[06:42] <babin> yes i have C, D , E drive and DVD wrtitter as F drive
[06:42] <grendal-prime> its a testing distro
[06:42] <blackcatnekonegr> Mitochondri,a you can just  burn them in usb flash drives
[06:42] <kanhiya> vf2nsr: use USB
[06:42] <babin> and 10 GB in hidden for recovery from lenovo
[06:42] <kanhiya> :)
[06:42] <Mitochondria> He's already gone Kanhiya
[06:43] <Mitochondria> Blackcat, i just dislike Unity.
[06:43] <dr3mro> hi , I noticed that memory usage in oneiric idle is increase to ~514MB .. when I login it's 278 and rises after 3 minutes to 340 .using google chrome I get 1GB easy .. firefox around 750 . Is this normal
[06:43] <kanhiya> Mitochondria: Thanks
 yes i have C, D , E drive and DVD wrtitter as F drive, and 10 GB in hidden for recovery from lenovo
[06:44] <blackcatnekonegr> dr3mro, google chrome is a hardware hog, firefox 8 is suposed to use less ram
[06:44] <kanhiya> babin: U need a lot of help, because one wrong step can delete all your important data
[06:45] <grendal-prime> you need to use the tryit option.
[06:45] <blackcatnekonegr> dr3mro, what gui are you using?
[06:45] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, unity
[06:45] <grendal-prime> then if everything works..you can install from the desktop and use the built in partioner.
[06:46] <blackcatnekonegr> dr3mro, try using XFCE and see if it uses the same amount of ram
[06:46] <babin> yes me to a hardware technician so just i need to know its possible to get work with my needed devices , if so illl format it using ubuntu
[06:46] <kanhiya> babin: I suggest you to backup all your data on external media like USB or other hard disk, and you need to know what are primary  & logical partitions , than use disk utility to resize partitions,
[06:46] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, when I made ubuntu mini and installed openbox it used only 60 MB
[06:46] <babin> ok
[06:48] <blackcatnekonegr> I have 720 mb in use and I am using firefox, jdownloader and pidgin
[06:48] <grendal-prime> babin?
[06:48] <dr3mro> blackcatnekonegr, this so much
[06:49] <dr3mro> is linux becoming memory hug
[06:49] <cebrere> hey, i have a question. like in windows, when in a command you'd type ipconfig to see your ip address? what's the cmd in terminal
[06:49] <kanhiya> babin: Before installing check that whether all thing u need(Wireless, Bluetooth, display, keyboard, excel :) etc) are working on Ubuntu, using TRY option
[06:49] <dr3mro> cebrere, ifconfig
[06:49] <blackcatnekonegr> But then I have a dual core, and using gnome  2.32.0, in lubuntu is usually less
[06:49] <cebrere> right on, thanks
[06:49] <grendal-prime> babin, ?
[06:49] <dr3mro> cebrere, urw
[06:50] <babin> but in vmware i have installed ubuntu 11.10 its working fine lan and wireless sound etc
[06:50] <grendal-prime> yes
[06:50] <babin> ya grendal -prime
[06:50] <hylian> i have an old motorola phone, and I want to use the camera on it. I used to be able to use it on ubuntu 8.04 via p2k commander, but I can't find a suitable p2k or moto4lin, and bitpim doesn't work, please help!
[06:50] <dr3mro> in top i have 173 task is this normal
[06:50] <kanhiya> i was fool, who installed ubuntu 11.10 without checking bluetooth properly because it was detecting & adding device
[06:50] <grendal-prime> i was going to offer to do an install in a virtual enviro so you could watch it..
[06:51] <grendal-prime> but you already have done that
[06:51] <grendal-prime> you use vmware?
[06:51] <fl110> I recently installed Canonical's recommended NVIDIA graphics drivers on a 11.11 installation. After rebooting, the machine now goes straight into an out-of-range display mode and I cannot access a virtual terminal for some reason. Because Unity has forsaken X, I cannot seem to configure my way out of it from a rescue disc. Repeated Google searches met no success. Any suggestions?
[06:51] <babin> Lenovo laptop E520-1143  now have win 7 can i replace it with ubuntu 11.10 is it possible to get install all devices as display ,sound,wireless,bluethooth,fingerprint,etc
[06:51] <babin> ya i use vmware
[06:51] <babin> its working in vmware
[06:51] <grendal-prime> ya
[06:52] <dr3mro> babin, just boot live cd and test your self
[06:52] <grendal-prime> i have it running in vmware and kvm also under virtual box
[06:52] <babin> but in host if i need to install its HD display driver needed so wht im asking u is it possible to get set my drivers
[06:52] <dr3mro> babin, vmware is different
[06:52] <grendal-prime> it is different but..only in that the hardware is very typical
[06:52] <dr3mro> babin, vmware doesn't grant it to work
[06:52] <hylian> fl110, control alt and + or - (on the keypad) does nothing during boot?
[06:52] <fl110> hylian: correct, no effect
[06:52] <babin> If in live cd all componets works i can install in host im i right ?
[06:52] <grendal-prime> laptops usually have tricky hardware
[06:53] <babin> hmmm
[06:53] <kanhiya> babin: Real can be different from Virtual
[06:53] <grendal-prime> babin yes ...try it with the try now option and test everything...it will not right anything to your machine tell you tell it to.
[06:53] <babin> ok
[06:53] <kanhiya> babin: So try it using booting it, that's it
[06:53] <sahat> hey guys how does ubuntu daily build work? if i install it today, will I eventually get updated automatelly surely but slowly to 12.04 Precise?
[06:54] <hylian> fl110, once it goes into the ot of range display message, does it eventually make it's way around to a useable desktop?
[06:54] <fl110> hylian: never, it's deadlocked entirely
[06:54] <babin> ok ill check it out and come back again
[06:54] <dr3mro> sahat but expect bugs
[06:54] <fl110> hylian: POST screen -> out of range
[06:54] <babin> thank u friends
[06:54] <harvey_> random question, say if i have 2 computers, one with ubuntu, one with win 7 (that is wirelessly connected to the internet). is it possible to take a seperate router and connect wired to each other so ubuntu could share internet?
[06:54] <dr3mro> sahat yes you will finally get 12.04
[06:54] <grendal-prime> no problem....ummm coworker?
[06:54] <dr3mro> sahat but it 's very buggy
[06:54] <kanhiya> welcome babin
[06:55] <sahat> thanks dr3mro
[06:55] <sahat> dr3mro you wouldnt recommend it for daily use?
[06:55] <hylian> fl110, hmm, strange, I have seen it say out of range, but that was just during boot up at the splash screen... i'll have to do some digging
[06:55] <dr3mro> sahat, either use 10.04 the last LTS if you want hard rock system
[06:56] <fl110> hylian: is there any way to forcefully reconfigure Unity's display preferences from a live cd?
[06:56] <dr3mro> sahat or use 11.10 if you like new things .. new is not better always
[06:57] <sahat> ok i will look up on google pros and cons of 11.10 vs 10.04 and go from there
[06:57] <hylian> fl110, did you try the solution here? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/71643/after-installing-ubuntu-my-screens-frequency-is-out-of-range-when-i-boot-to-win
[06:57] <kanhiya> yes, new is not better in many ways
[06:57] <kookyCookie> Is it possible to update maverick x server from 1.9.0 to 1.9.5?
[06:58] <kanhiya> don't go on looks, go on performance & reliablility
[06:58] <hylian> fl110, to be honest I havent had your problem. A couple of clients have had it say out of range untill it's past the splash screen and unity fires up...
[06:58] <sahat> kanhiya are you implying the Unity or some other things you don't like in 11.10?
[06:58] <kanhiya> sahat: Yes
[06:59] <hylian> what's a good replacement for p2k commander (not bitpim, won't work on my phone)
[06:59] <kanhiya> sahat: you may not get your bluetooth work properly
[06:59] <kanhiya> sahat: some apps are also broken for 11.10
[06:59] <fl110> hylian: saw that suggestion and was going to try it, but will forcing grub to 640x480 have any effect on Unity?
[07:00] <sahat> kanhiya, will I be able to install latest nvidia drivers in 10.04 through apt-get? Or gotta do it manually?
[07:00] <hylian> fl110, to be honest, all of this is very new. if there is an effect, it will be that you have your terminal modes back, i.e. control alt f1, but unity can't load...
[07:01] <kanhiya> sahat: If your display is looking great without updating so don't update
[07:01] <sahat> also on a related note, is it possible to upgrade python version on ubuntu 10.04 to 2.7.2?
[07:02] <kanhiya> if u need to update than look for additional drivers, they may be available there, sahat
[07:02] <hylian> fl110, i have to admit, most of my business clients have jumped ship to the lts versions, for this reason. unity and the other setups are gonna be rocky seas for a while.
[07:03] <kanhiya> sahat: if update is available than you will be able to :)
[07:03] <sahat> kanhiya: thanks
[07:04] <sahat>  I am going to go give Ubuntu 10.04 a try
[07:04] <centHOGG> better than heroin
[07:05] <sahat> wow no one really likes unity here?
[07:05] <hylian> anyone know of a replacement for p2k commander? (not bitpim, won't work on my phone.)
[07:07] <odb|fidel> sahat: some will - others will not - as always on changes
[07:07] <fl110> hylian: i know what you mean -- even everyday users that don't know what an operating system is seem to routinely run into issues with Unity as it is; the breakdown in communication between the community and Mark on this subject has been a major source of frustration for me
[07:08] <hylian> fl110, yeah, and my business clients are also a little chicken hearted, but to be honest, i would be using 10.04 myself if it wheren't for the fact that i need to solve 11.10 problems, and the best way to solve them is to have them.
[07:10] <fl110> hylian: i'm of a similar mindset; the reason i was setting this machine up was largely for the same reasons, which is ironic given the amount of a fight it's putting up
[07:10] <pranav> i need a small but cool widget to keep on my ubuntu desktop, which monitors the current download/upload speed.. total downloaded.. etc.. in my right pane.. if daily total downloaded is logged.. that would be more preferable.. anyone any ideas ?? :P
[07:10] <sahat> pranav: I think conky can do that for you
[07:10] <pranav> sahat: beside other ??
[07:11] <pranav> does conky have total daily volume logged..
[07:12] <pranav> where can i find custom made scripts
[07:12] <dr_willis> conky homepage has configs..
[07:12] <hylian> fl110, agreed.. :)
[07:12] <pranav> i do not want to recreate the wheel..
[07:12] <dr_willis> i recall some other dock/widgits in the past with similer things.
[07:13] <dr_willis> i recall one that was not as conigurable as conky. but had all sorts of widgits it could use. been around for years and years. vertical,  stuck to the right hand side.
[07:14] <hylian> anyone know of a decent p2k commander replacement, sand bitpim? (doesn't work on with my phone)
[07:14] <dr_willis> !info GKrellM
[07:14] <dr_willis> gkrellm is gone? oh my
[07:14] <pranav> dr_willis: my is stuck on the top-left & doesn't looks like in screenshots. even the screenshots does'nt have total volume. just instantaneous up/down speed
[07:14] <urlin2u> dr_willis, screenlets?
[07:14] <dr_willis> !info gkrellm
[07:14] <pranav> and a small graph for say 10minuts
[07:14] <dr_willis> there we go.
[07:15] <dr_willis> try gkrellm - it has a lot of that stuff.
[07:15] <dr_willis> conky can also do it.
[07:15] <dr_willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Monitoring-a-Linux-System-With-X11-Console-Web-Based-Tools-51678.shtml
[07:17] <pranav> the page also has gnome-system-monitor.. huh!! :O but its so not cool.. I mean it has all the stuffs I need. but still zz.
[07:18] <pranav> dr_willis: still very nice page.. :) thanks
[07:18] <dr_willis> no idea how old it is.. was a first google hit
[07:22] <pranav> dr_willis: exactly what I need is DarkStat :P it has statistics for like 30 days.. and is simple
[07:22] <pranav> dr_willis: browser based
[07:22] <dr_willis> !info ntop
[07:22] <dr_willis> !info darkstat
[07:23] <fl110> hylian: the other primary reason is because honestly I value the community we've all built here; I'm still holding out with hope that some cataclysmic statistical event will result in Unity being up for a consensus-driven debate
[07:23] <dr_willis> always 100 ways to do somthing in linux
[07:23] <dr_willis> Ubuntu is not a democracy :)
[07:23] <quietone> when my partner logs off his Dell laptop running maverick it sometimes freezes and a hard reset is required. Where can I read how to fix?
[07:23] <ic3b3rg> google
[07:24] <pranav> dr_willis: :) *overwhelmed*
[07:24] <quietone> ic3b3rg, if that is for me, I've already searched ubuntu forums and done web searches
[07:25] <ic3b3rg> no, sorry accidently typed in wrong window
[07:25] <dr_willis> sometimes.. is the tricky party
[07:25] <martman> how do you get kernel source now? i dont see a package
[07:25] <dr_willis> part
[07:25] <martman> searching for my version, 3.0.0-12, only shows headers and images
[07:26] <dr_willis> quietone:  you could be ssh'd in from another box. monitoring the system logs and dmesg. and hopefully catch somthing to look for when it  shuts down.
[07:26] <fl110> hylian: every official statement I've seen thus far characterized the opposition as having a 'get off my lawn' argument, which is simply not true. I was personally ecstatic to see the visual changes in Unity, as with every new release, but the lack of configurability and network transparency made it impractical for typical workstation use
[07:26] <Rar9> hi can any one help me how to autostart Apache Solr on Ubuntu
[07:27] <quietone> dr_willis, there was this "Skipping EDID probe due to cached edid" in /var/log/messages but haven't found out what it means yet
[07:27] <dr_willis> edid is info the monitor sends to the pc/X server..
[07:28] <dr_willis> i belive. :)
[07:28] <dr_willis> so its not a part of the problem.
[07:28] <curtis122> hi fellow ubuntu users :)
[07:30] <fl110> hylian: that, and of course the disproportionate swath of support requests as we've both seen -- how many times have you been asked 'where is my other window?' ;-)
[07:30] <fl110> hylian: or some similarly trivial interface question
[07:30] <curtis122> hi
[07:32] <dr_willis> heh - perhaps we need a ubuntu-training channel.
[07:32] <searching> can I use Pinta for web design?
[07:32] <DND> guys why is it when i try to mount ftp from "Places", it opens the browser not a folder/window?
[07:35] <hylian> fl110, yes, I agree.
[07:36] <hylian> anyone know of a decent p2k commander replacement, sand bitpim? (doesn't work on with my phone)
[07:38] <quietone> dr_willis, thank you. The problem may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/270798
[07:42] <martman> how can i get kernel source? searching for my version, 3.0.0-12, only shows headers and images. i though there was a package for this
[07:45] <ErisMonk> martman, it isn't in the git repo?
[07:46] <vex_> when i try to connect to my ssh server using my id_rsa private key that i generated i get an error back from putty that says error: cannot use private key path to key what is the problem it is experiencing?
[07:46] <martman> ErisMonk: i was hoping to avoid git. could of sworn a simple apt-get install did the trick before
[07:46] <dr_willis> all i know on kernel is in
[07:46] <dr_willis> !kernel
[07:47] <martman> that page doesnt directly cover 11.04 like im using or anything newish
[07:47] <martman> but links to something that uses git
[07:47] <ErisMonk> very nice dr_willis thanks.
[07:47] <dr_willis> yep - lots of things are out of date with the new releases
[07:47] <martman> just seems so overkill
[07:47] <dr_willis> ive not had to mess with the kernel since ive started usng ubintu
[07:48] <martman> well ill be working on a module soon, so i dont have a choice
[07:48] <ErisMonk> seems the new kernel would show up in updates also, it doesn't martman?
[07:48] <blackshirt> yeah :D
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> !info linux-source
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> martman: ^^
[07:49] <martman> awesome, looks like what i need
[07:49] <martman> thanks
[07:49] <martman> totally missed that...
[07:50] <Doodie> I want to create a partition to store songs, files etc. is FAT32 or NTFS better?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Doodie: Are you dual-booting with Windows?
[07:51] <dr_willis> and are any of the files over 4gb in size
[07:51] <Doodie> tonyyarusso, yes. and  want this new partition to be shown is both win and ubuntu.
[07:51] <dr_willis> use ntfs then
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> ah, okay
[07:52] <dr_willis> how big a partition is this to be anyway?
[07:52] <Doodie> okey
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Doodie: A few years back the answer would have been FAT32, but these days Ubuntu has NTFS read-write support, so NTFS is a fine option for this.
[07:52] <Sanus> Hey guys
[07:52] <Doodie> dr_willis, 80GB
[07:52] <Sanus> SO...  Back again.
[07:52] <Doodie> tonyyarusso, great, sounds good
[07:52] <dr_willis> Doodie:  fat32 cant handle files over 4gb in size either.
[07:53]  * tonyyarusso wants to see a 4GB song :P
[07:53] <dr_willis> he said and other files also...
[07:53] <blackshirt> Doodie: i think not a wise using fat32 fs
[07:53] <Doodie> aa great advices, I will use ntfs then.
[07:54] <Sanus> Video Card: Radeon HD 6250, Ubuntu Flavor: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, Problem: Not able to enable desktop effects or use compiz at all.
[07:54] <Sanus> Further Problems: Can't change angle of desktop, can't suspend (Will not wake up), cannot hibernate (Same as other.)
[07:54] <blackshirt> Doodie: fat32 was for "older" window system, for  newer i think more better to use ntfs
[07:55] <blackshirt> Sanus: i think you need proprietary driver from ati :D
[07:55] <Doodie> Sanus, are u using ubuntu 11.04?
[07:55] <Sanus> Frglx?  Doesn't work.
[07:55] <Sanus> No, 10.04.  Ten.  One Zero.
[07:55] <Sanus> I don't wish to use Unity
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Sanus: It looks like the free drivers present in 10.04 don't support your card, but 11.10 should (I think).  So yeah, you'd have to either use fglrx or upgrade.
[07:56] <Doodie> Sanus, upgrade to 11.04 and FGLRX will work fine.
[07:56] <Sanus> Will you stop telling me to upgrade to 11.04?
[07:56] <Sanus> Seriously you guys.  This is getting old.
[07:56] <Sanus> I've been told across the forum and every place else to get 11.x
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Sanus: You could also try using the xorg-edgers PPA, although that could break things worse.
[07:56] <Sanus> When I don't want Unity.  It's terrible.
[07:57] <Sanus> I've already got that.
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Sanus: So use Gnome Shell?
[07:57] <Sanus> It doesn't really do anything, tonyyarusso
[07:57] <devkorcv1nce> Sanus dont worry about the upgrade you can use the old gnome2 in 11.04
[07:57] <Sanus> tonyyarusso No, I like my Gnome 2.x
[07:57] <Sanus> devkorcv1nce: Gnome2 or Gnome "Classic" which has very little functionality?
[07:57] <Doodie> Sanus, u can still use Gnome Classics style
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Well, then you may have to live with the limitations of your card.
[07:57] <Sanus> Doodie: I don't want Gnome Classics.
[07:58] <devkorcv1nce> Sanus its Gnome2 classic is just a tag
[07:58] <chavov_> in 11.04 gnome classsic is gnome 2 desktop
[07:58] <Doodie> right
[07:59] <Sanus> In 11.10 Gnome "Classic" is not gnome2.  It's like a pebble compared to a boulder.
[07:59] <Sanus> A cheap knockoff.  Etc.
[08:00] <blackshirt> if you want good capability with your card using opensource driver, i think you need upgrade your os to 11.04 /natty or more newer ubuntu
[08:00] <Sanus> Are you certain it's much the same as gnome2.8?
[08:00] <chavov_> a model T is a classic car
[08:02] <urlin2u> Sanus, gnome 2 is not supported and has only been forked to a arch user and it is in their repos as mate, use a distro that offers it like debu=ian.
[08:02] <Sanus> So is the Ferrari 1957 250.
[08:02] <urlin2u> debian*
[08:03] <Sanus> Welp, I'm going to go waste a great deal of time upgrading to 11.04.  Perhaps it's not as bad as 11.10 was.
[08:04] <Sanus> 10.10 comes first.
[08:05] <axisys> how to transger mpeg4 video into iphone 2g?
[08:05] <Sanus> I started Ubuntu at... 6.04.  I've enjoyed every update up until 10.04.  I've not seen anything save 11.10 past that, and I don't like where it's going now.
[08:05] <axisys> one way is virtual box of winxp .. any other way from ubuntu ?
[08:05] <Sanus> 10.04 was supposed to be the officially supported version, I suppose.  Funny that, huh?
[08:06] <Mitochondria> Wine?
[08:09] <stanislav>  Hi. DesktopVisor - is it good name program for monitor desktop computers?
[08:09] <rhizmoe> this ppa business is for the birds
[08:09] <rhizmoe> oh good, no handbrake for oneiric
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Sanus: There was no 6.04.  'twas 6.06.
[08:10] <Sanus> That's okay tonyyarusso, now that I think about it, it was the latter release of the year.
[08:11] <Sanus> No, it had to have been 6.6.  Cause I remember being excited about the way Edgy looked.
[08:12] <devkorcv1nce> Sanus you could try elementary os it think the release named jupiter is base on both 10.04 and 11.04 but im not sure
[08:12] <Sanus> And Edgy was awesome.  I'm an old fashioned guy.  I think if something isn't broke, don't fix it.
[08:12] <Sanus> Elementary OS?
[08:12] <Sanus> (looking)
[08:12] <devkorcv1nce> Sanus Yes
[08:13] <Sanus> Ah... It's pretty, save the launcher.  I enjoy though, being able to throw up a whole ton of menu bars for little convenient things.  There aren't any more desktop applications for gnome 2.8 are there?  Such as a desktop clock?
[08:13] <dr_willis> theres other ways to get desktop widgits.
[08:13] <Sanus> (Either way, at the moment I'm updating to 10.10)
[08:13] <valentin> v
[08:13] <Slartibart> How do I get info about the "Screen locked" window(screen?)? Obviously I can't type xprop while it's up. Could it work to login via ssh and enter xprop from there while 'Screen locked' is up? Or would that fail because it's a different login?
[08:14] <dr_willis> google's desktop. gdesklets, opera,  peraps more i cant rember
[08:14] <Sanus> Those all sound neat.
[08:16] <geirha> Slartibart: Find the display number (usually :0), and set the env appropriately and it may work (untested).  DISPLAY=:0 xprop ...
[08:17] <gardebienk> A
[08:17] <dr_willis> if the users are differnt, use of xhost + may be needed
[08:17] <valentin> salut
[08:17] <gardebienk> SAVA
[08:17] <valentin> oui et toi???
[08:17] <gardebienk> BIEN
[08:17] <Slartibart> Thanks, I'll try.
[08:17] <gardebienk> BONJ
[08:18] <valentin> jdkjdoujdmqiu
[08:18] <valentin> nico
[08:18] <valentin> ahahahhahaha
[08:18] <valentin> tfk ???
[08:18] <valentin> ????????
[08:18] <WriteFields> In a Write document I have inserted a field from a Calc sheet....i just managed to have one registry per page...how can i get several registries in a single page....any idea??
[08:18] <jussi> valentin: please speak english in here :)
[08:18] <elky> valentin, are you trying to annoy nico?
[08:18] <gardebienk> YES
[08:19] <valentin> I don't speak english
[08:19] <jussi> !fr | valentin
[08:19] <Sanus> translate.google.com
[08:19] <valentin> jussi???
[08:19] <valentin> oui yes
[08:19] <gardebienk> NO Y SPEAK ENGLISCH
[08:19] <lexflex> is it possible that nVidia graphics is a bad choice for linux users?
[08:19] <elky> gardebienk, both of you should behave properly in this channel
[08:19] <r4y> ubuntu "disk utility" "smart status" unknown
[08:19] <psycho_oreos> lexflex, no
[08:19] <gardebienk> YES
[08:19] <gardebienk> YES
[08:19] <Mitochondria> Any graphics card is bad for linux. They all need extra support
[08:19] <gardebienk> WHAT YOUR NAME
[08:20] <r4y> How do I know if this HD supports smart?
[08:20] <valentin> jussi???
[08:20] <elky> valentin, please behave
[08:20] <psycho_oreos> !fr > valentin
[08:20] <lexflex> i read that nVidia does not support open source development as well as ATI
[08:20] <Sanus> Parce que le monde n'a pas pratiqué le français autant que vous.  Honestly.
[08:21] <pnorman> r4y: Is it a SATA drive? It almost certainly does. To query the drive about the SMART status you want smartmontools
[08:21] <valentin> behave ????
[08:21] <r4y> OK, thank you. I don't know if it is a SATA drive though
[08:21] <Sanus> (Translation: Because not everyone has practiced their french as much as you have.  Honnêtement)
[08:22] <Mitochondria> I know French well enough to get by in France alone, but sure as hell don't feel like translating anything.....
[08:22] <Sanus> Indeed.
[08:22] <r4y> E: Invalid operation smartmontools
[08:22] <Sanus> So for now it's probably just best to ignore the frenchmen.
[08:22] <pnorman> r4y: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[08:23] <Sanus> Or French Canadians?
[08:23] <r4y> O, right, lol
[08:23] <r4y> I've done this before, sorry hitting enter so much
[08:23] <valentin> jussi or you lived?
[08:24] <r4y> It was already installed, lol.
[08:24] <valentin> ?
[08:24] <pnorman> anyways, once installed. sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whichever drive)
[08:24] <duxbarak> how do I get mutt to work in 11.10?
[08:24] <dr_willis> ati and nvidia both need to support linux better..  but we will see what happens once wayland comes out.
[08:24] <valentin> elki?
[08:25] <valentin> what your name
[08:25] <valentin> ?
[08:25] <valentin> elki?
[08:25] <r4y> It's unmounted. I have 2 hard drives hooked up
[08:25] <valentin> elki you're a girl or a boy?
[08:25] <bazhang> valentin, this is not the chat channel. please stop
[08:25] <pnorman> r4y: if it's connected and you just need to run mount, it should still work. drive letter is likely to be sdb in that case
[08:26] <Mitochondria> Wayland?
[08:26] <r4y> If it is sdb then shouldn't it be sdb1?
[08:26] <bazhang> valentin, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[08:26] <duxbarak> anybody still use mutt?
[08:26] <joefc> how can i add this ppa to my ubuntu 10.04 server install: https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/php5/+packages
[08:27] <r4y> Sorry fsck requires it to be sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sdb1 which is why I am asked that last question
[08:27] <Mitochondria> Can anyone recommend a small PC. Similar to this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDyM6SKLt24
[08:27] <bazhang> Mitochondria, try ##hardware
[08:27] <r4y> I'll just try
[08:27] <valentin> what ?
[08:29] <pnorman> r4y: smartctl deals with the drives, not the partitions on them
[08:29] <lucatortuga75> aloha
[08:29] <r4y> O
[08:29] <matrixiumn> hello
[08:30] <r4y> OK, I get it now
[08:30] <r4y> Looks good: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747970/
[08:31] <r4y> I remember putting this link in a text file: http://www.overclock.net/t/588130/ubuntu-9-10-failing-hard-disk-bad-sectors-error
[08:31] <phlak_user> Mitochondria, also look at the ubuntu hcl before you buy
[08:31] <phlak_user> !hcl | Mitochondria
[08:32] <r4y> Thank you for the help. I am going to go. :) /
[08:32] <pnorman> r4y: Ya - that looks normal. Keep in mind a drive can look normal with SMART and still fail at any minute.
[08:32] <r4y> I know
[08:32] <r4y> I read that even new hard drives can have bad sectors
[08:33] <r4y> Thank you for the help
[08:33] <pnorman> That's not the problem. bad sectors are normal and remapped around. SMART actually does well with bad sectors. SMART doesn't predict failures of drive electronics or firmware problems. or the biggest cause of data loss, user error
[08:34] <zaffy> absolutely! I have lost a full HD without notice...
[08:34] <zaffy> and smart was saying that's everything was ok
[08:35] <r4y> I know that bad sectors are remapped so they aren't used. I have everything backed up
[08:35] <starn> hey can anyone help me with games on linux?? when i run UT2004 or Americas Army 2.5 my mouse kinda works kinda doesn't it will move than it automatically moves to about mid left of screen and won't let me move it around.. if that makes since.
[08:36] <r4y> Yes 2 hard drives can fail though. There is no end to data loss, but we can try.
[08:37] <r4y> I read somewhere that someone said not to use smart
[08:37] <OldOneEye> how do i uninstall xwin with kde
[08:38] <gin> hi,everybody
[08:38] <r4y> I read somewhere else someone was trying to disable smart, but I don't know and I think using smart is a good idea, well anyways. TY for the help.
[08:39] <starn> no one?
[08:39] <gin> here
[08:39] <gin> starn
[08:39] <dr_willis> old games like that are often problematic
[08:39] <OldOneEye> heya
[08:39] <dr_willis> id say check the forums or the askubuntu.com site
[08:40] <starn> alright...
[08:40] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to unistall xwin kde? on ubuntu server
[08:40] <dr_willis> Uninstall KDE and replace it with what?
[08:41] <OldOneEye> gnome
[08:41] <dr_willis> fire up the package manager and start removing things..
[08:41] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[08:41] <Thor^^> Hi, I got a Lucid Server where I try to install ant, but it throws error that it can't find an IP, tho I'm using archive.ubuntu.com as repository. Pastebin of shell output:
[08:41] <Thor^^> http://pastebin.com/RsBC619D
[08:41] <r4y> I have a small question. When I am using the terminal and I have copied a pasted a big command I tend to want to highlight the text I don't want and backspace that chuck of it away. Is there a keyboard shortcut for doing that?
[08:41] <dr_willis> r4y:  bash has some fancy !! type history features that can do all sorts of things. but ive rarely used it.
[08:42] <dr_willis> ie: !! -> repeates last command.
[08:42] <dr_willis> if you mean DELETE the current line. theres some key shortcut for that also.  but i forget what it is. i normally just up/down arrow. :)
[08:42] <r4y> I use arrow up to enter things like sudo apt-get update and so forth
[08:43] <dr_willis> bash has all sorts of command line editing features ive only barely used
[08:43] <somsip> r4y: worth looking at history command
[08:43] <somsip> r4y: like, if history tells you command 1018 was 'sudo apt-get update' and you want to run it again, do !2018
[08:43] <mmv> r4y: nah, but you can triple click it
[08:43] <somsip> !1018
[08:44] <r4y> But I mean for doing simply costume commands not yet used, but it is helpful to get commands used
[08:44] <mmv> r4y: bash afaik doesn't have mouse support,
[08:45] <somsip> r4y: give an example
[08:45] <r4y> triple click?
[08:45] <r4y> Hold on, I will look
[08:45] <dr_willis> bash dosent do mouse.. X or gpm in the console handles the mouse
[08:45] <r4y> gpm?, I should look in the USC
[08:46] <dr_willis> !info gpm
[08:46] <nguyentuanhieu> hello
[08:46] <louigi> hey guys! I get occasional loud hiss burst in flash sound when using usb soundcard. why might this be happening?
[08:47] <nguyentuanhieu> co ai biet noi tieng viet ko huhu
[08:47] <somsip> !vt | nguyentuanhieu
[08:47] <somsip> hmm
[08:48] <bazhang> !vn | nguyentuanhieu
[08:48] <somsip> bazhang: aha!
[08:50] <r4y> How come libgpm2 is installed?, Well then you are suggesting to install gdm?
[08:50] <r4y> O, OK sorry duh
[08:51] <r4y> Does the system console equal the terminal?
[08:52] <r4y> I should learn what is all installed on Ubuntu. It's crazy though.
[08:52] <r4y> Hello. echo echo echo
[08:53] <mmv> r4y: probably
[08:53] <gin> matbe
[08:53] <gin> maybe
[08:54] <r4y> I will try it. I have had many times I wanted that as a feature
[08:54] <r4y> Even though I haven't stated any examples
[08:54] <haunt_house> desktop wallpaper question: I change a picture with a python script and in the image viewer, the picture is correct, but even if I re add it in the background window, it's still an old version. this is a recent error cause it worked a long time, what might cause this?
[08:55] <r4y> I have this before
[08:55] <r4y> I don't know why and I would like to know as well
[08:56] <r4y> gdm didn't help but it doesn't matter
[08:57] <r4y> I had a different problem actually
[08:57] <r4y> The older pictures keep re-appearing
[08:58] <r4y> They didn't change the pictures I added though
[08:58] <r4y> Sorry. I am just going to go. Thank you for the help
[08:58] <r4y> bye :) /
[08:58] <matrixiumn> bye
[08:58] <haunt_house> bye
[08:58] <r4y> take care all
[08:58] <matrixiumn> ok
[08:58] <haunt_house> hm, it has to be some kind of cache
[09:00] <haunt_house> will locate work on all files?
[09:01] <starn> hey i kinda found my issue with my mouse and games on linux... it's apparently with most SDL apps... and fact i use Xinerama.. issue is it does this even with single monitor.
[09:04] <louigi> hey guys! I get occasional loud hiss burst in flash sound when using usb soundcard. why might this be happening?
[09:05] <Thor^^> Hi, I got a Lucid Server where I try to install ant, but it throws error that it can't find an IP, tho I'm using archive.ubuntu.com as repository. Pastebin of shell output: Anna kommer ikke inn på eposten sin, startet klienten men får forsatt spørsmål om passord, godtar ikke passordet hennes, resatt passord, byttet ok.
[09:05] <gin> hey guys,i can mount my USB ,but i cant mount the mass storge
[09:05] <Thor^^> Bruker påstår passordet bare har byttet seg selv
[09:06] <gin> why?
[09:06] <Thor^^> ups :/
[09:06] <Thor^^> What i ment to say:  I got a Lucid Server where I try to install ant, but it throws error that it can't find an IP, tho I'm using archive.ubuntu.com as repository. Pastebin of shell output: http://pastebin.com/RsBC619D
[09:08] <zaffy> maybe you have a dns problem
[09:08] <matrixiumn> firewall?
[09:08] <matrixiumn> maybe
[09:09] <Thor^^> matrixiumn: the machine isn't firewalled
[09:09] <matrixiumn> ok sorry
[09:09] <Thor^^> zaffy: the error suggests it's a server side problem tho, 404 is file not found on webservers
[09:10] <Thor^^> my question is more... how come the only LTS release does not have OpenJDK and similar packages available tho it's still in extended support?
[09:14] <llutz_> !info openjdk-6-jdk   lucid
[09:15] <llutz_> Thor^^: it has ^
[09:16] <CS`> xo
[09:16] <Thor^^> *facepalms* helps doing sudo apt-get update first perhaps
[09:17] <Thor^^> llutz_: thanks
[09:19] <stimpie> When returning a custom object via a MXBean the client receives a  CompositeDataSupport object. Can this be 'casted' back to my custom data object?
[09:21] <xro2> Hi, i have a problem with my screen resolution... I connot set 1920x1080 and it should be my resolution... I have an ATI card with ATI driver... (it worked yesterday)... what should i do?
[09:23] <bullgard4> If the file mode is given (octal) as »100664«, what does that mean? See 'man tcpdump'.
[09:24] <stimpie>  /join ?#java
[09:24] <dissipate> anyone try gnome 3 on ubuntu? this thing is pimpin'
[09:25] <bullgard4> dissipate: I am using GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.10. What do you mean by "pimin'"?
[09:25] <bullgard4> dissipate: I am using GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.10. What do you mean by "pimpin'"?
[09:25] <dissipate> bullgard4, nevermind. :O
[09:25] <dissipate> bullgard4, i don't understand the furor over unity.
[09:26] <dissipate> bullgard4, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:27] <wisuzu> Hi, i got some problems with repositories in karmic (9.10), there are still any avaliable??
[09:27] <silare> I like the Ubuntu 11.10's Grid effect (if you move a window to the side of the screen, it shows the outline of the window being grown), but 11.10 has lots of issues for me.
[09:27] <silare> Is there a way to get 11.10's grid effect in 11.04?
[09:27] <llutz_> bullgard4: 10 = regular file, 0=no sgid/suid, 664= filepermissions -> 100664
[09:28] <wisuzu> :(
[09:28] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got all of these ebox packages: http://pastebin.com/XDBDLsLe  is there a way I can remove all? i tried doing sudo apt-get remove ebox but it said it didnt exist
[09:29] <Thor^^> wisuzu: 9.10 should be available @ old-releases.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <wisuzu> Thx Thor^^ i'll try
[09:30] <bullgard4> llutz_ What man page or other document explains that '10' decodes to »regular file«?
[09:30] <Thor^^> wisuzu: tho I'd strongly suggest upgrading to at least 10.04
[09:30] <wisuzu> Yeah, i know
[09:31] <wisuzu> i'm finishing my PhD work ... and i dont want to something stop working right now
[09:33] <dr_willis> I thought ebox got renamed
[09:33] <dr_willis> !info ebox
[09:33] <scarleo> Hi, I know that software-center is having a bit of performance problems and that they are being worked on, however most of them are supposed to be fixed and startup times to be < 10 sec. I'm having a startup time of 47 seconds. What can I do?
[09:34] <llutz_> bullgard4: iirc somewhere in debugfs-docu, not sure
[09:34] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you very much for your help.
[09:36] <wisuzu> Thor^^: It works!
[09:37] <wisuzu> Thx for the info and for the advice ;)
[09:37] <Thor^^> wisuzu: your welcome :)
[09:37] <wisuzu> I really apreciate ;)
[09:38] <wisuzu> I waste 2 hours trying the repositories in the list :P
[09:39] <Thor^^> lol :)
[09:40] <wisuzu> Thor^^: user++ level :P
[09:40] <louigi> hey guys! I get occasional loud hiss burst in flash sound when using usb soundcard. why might this be happening?
[09:40] <dissipate> wisuzu, what PhD are you working on?
[09:40] <wisuzu> I'm working in a aplication for detecting breast cancer in medical images
[09:41] <dissipate> wisuzu, awesome
[09:41] <semibug-kdev> yes
[09:41] <wisuzu> ^^ thx
[09:42] <dissipate> wisuzu, it's going to run on ubuntu?
[09:42] <linuxuz3r> gnome 3 and gnome skell is cool
[09:42] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to unistall xwin
[09:42] <linuxuz3r> apt-get purge xwin
[09:42] <wisuzu> dissipate: Its going to run in ubuntu/windows
[09:42] <wisuzu> dissipate: opencv + gtkmm
[09:42] <dissipate> linuxuz3r, yeah but the battery indicator sucks. way too small.
[09:43] <dissipate> wisuzu, good stuff. are you doing a PhD in biology?
[09:43] <dr_willis> OldOneEye:  if you mean the X server..  its xorg i beive in the package manager
[09:44] <dr_willis> !info xwin
[09:44] <OldOneEye> hmm
[09:44] <dr_willis> !find /usr/bin/Xorg
[09:44] <dr_willis> OldOneEye:  why ae you wanting to remove it?
[09:44] <wisuzu> dissipate: No , computer engineering  :D
[09:45] <OldOneEye> i installed kde xwin over ubuntu server i wanna uninstall it and have just the consol
[09:45] <Thor^^> wisuzu: interesting application to make tho :D
[09:45] <wisuzu> dissipate: the biology stuff i work came from a big hospital in my city
[09:45] <dissipate> wisuzu, awesome. you might be interested in a project i'm working on: electrosim.com. it's a browser based schematic capture and circuit simulator.
[09:45] <dr_willis> OldOneEye:  a few min ago i thoughtyou said you wanted gnome?
[09:45] <llutz_> bullgard4: "man 2 stat"  has info on it (... The following flags are defined for the st_mode field:...)
[09:46] <OldOneEye> yes im gonna reinstall it with gnome
[09:46] <dr_willis> OldOneEye:  whats the point in removeing X, then reinstalling it?
[09:46] <OldOneEye> i fort i had too
[09:46] <dr_willis> remove the kde packages and  you will have just gnome.
[09:46] <wisuzu> Thor^^: yeah, its quite motivating and you can 'see' the progress
[09:46] <wisuzu> dissipate: i'm cheking it
[09:46] <OldOneEye> how i delete kde packages
[09:46] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[09:46] <dissipate> wisuzu, it's currently alpha. it's best to load a test circuit then click 'simulate'
[09:47] <dr_willis> or use synaptic and search for and remove anything with kde in the name
[09:47] <dissipate> wisuzu, after the 'results' tab goes from red to green you can plot your nodes.
[09:47] <EO_> How do you install debugging symbols for libasound2 package?  (or in general for any package)
[09:48] <ollii> hey...im having a look at the cve tracker
[09:48] <ollii> was is meant by "DNE" => http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2010/CVE-2010-4172.html
[09:48] <ollii> evil robot
[09:49] <XaXoX> hi, I need just some short counselling for Ironhide, could anyone help?
[09:50] <scarleo> !ask | XaXoX
[09:51] <dr_willis> !info ironhide
[09:52] <wisuzu> dissipate: great stuff! i can see a lot of work behind, it's your personal proyect?
[09:52] <dissipate> wisuzu, yes, and a friend of mine. we are partners in crime. :)
[09:52] <xro2> Is there a GUI for ATI driver screen configuration???
[09:52] <XaXoX> i installed it and the configuration says everything works (namely gears). it installed current drivers, but they are flagged as unistalled in restriceted drivers. the control panel shows only intel integrated card. how can i be shure nvida card works?
[09:53] <dissipate> wisuzu, are you familiar with any of the test circuits like the amplifier? :)
[09:53] <Papayo> Good mornings =)
[09:53] <Gentoo64> morning
[09:53] <XaXoX> morning
[09:54] <EuroNerd> I've got a win mgr problem:  I've installed XFCE as an option next to the standard Ubuntu. Now in the default (Unity) windows manager, the volume indicator is messed up. When I change volume with a keyboard shortcut I should see the rectangular notification in top right. Instead, an ugly indicator appears in the middle of the screen - I assume some carry-over from XFCE. How do I get the right one back
[09:54] <Papayo> Uff long time since last I used irc ...
[09:54] <VictorCL> how would the command be to search for files bigger than 200MB  ?
[09:54] <prashant_123456> hello all
[09:54] <Papayo> I'm actually after an ebook, so I'm just trying to get familiar again =)
[09:54] <bullgard4> llutz_: Excellent! In the mean time I found another document although it is not quite as authoritative as yours: http://oss.sgi.com/LDP/HOWTO/Ext2fs-Undeletion-Dir-Struct/find.html. --  Thank you again for your help.
[09:54] <wisuzu> dissipate: Aummm, they are not chinese for me but ... i study fisics/electronics at this level ages ago
[09:54] <llutz_> VictorCL: man find (-size +200M)
[09:55] <prashant_123456> i have linux 11.10 and now i want to remove icons from top panel any help ?????
[09:55] <dissipate> wisuzu, yeah, i bet  you do more digital.
[09:55] <dissipate> wisuzu, we will be adding logic gates in the future. :)
[09:55] <XaXoX> ! may you help? please | scarleo
[09:55] <dr_willis> phantomfake:  what icons
[09:55] <VictorCL> llutz,  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[09:55] <Thor^^> dissipate: nice project :)
[09:55] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  what icons...
[09:56] <llutz_> VictorCL: read "man find"  and look for the option -size (for expample +200M)
[09:56] <wisuzu> ^^ you should improve it and show it to some universities
[09:56] <Guest93112> hey  i'm really new to unbentu
[09:56] <dissipate> Thor^^, thanks. you do analog circuits?
[09:56] <Guest93112> can someone help me set up an ftp
[09:56] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, actually i have pinned some icons like xchat at top panel
[09:56] <Thor^^> dissipate: I'm into computers but play with analog/digital circuits as a hobby
[09:56] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  you are using unity? or gnome classic? or what exctl
[09:56] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: have you tried right clicking or ctrl or shift + right click?
[09:57] <dissipate> Thor^^, did you run the test circuits we have? :) check out the amplifer.
[09:57] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i m using gnome classic
[09:57] <XaXoX> could anyone help? :(
[09:57] <Gentoo64> XaXoX: what ati card is it?
[09:57] <Thor^^> dissipate: Did just that, semantics is similar to my first "proper" cricuit :P
[09:57] <dissipate> Thor^^, we just added multi-plot capability.
[09:57] <XaXoX> gentoo it is a nVidia
[09:58] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, dr_willis yep thanks alt + right click works
[09:58] <Thor^^> dissipate: I'm looking forward to you adding digital as well :P
[09:58] <Gentoo64> XaXoX: what nvidia card?
[09:58] <dissipate> Thor^^, we will be, as well as a ton more components.
[09:58] <_ramo> hi
[09:58] <_ramo> how can i see on command line, how much RAM do i have and how much is in use
[09:58] <ollii> what does "DNE" means in ubuntu security tracker? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2010/CVE-2010-4172.html
[09:58] <prashant_123456> one more question
[09:58] <llutz_> _ramo: free -m
[09:58] <prashant_123456> how to download from ftp server
[09:58] <dissipate> Thor^^, have you ever seen upverter.com? it's another cool site that let's you share layout schematics.
[09:58] <prashant_123456> like dsl linux
[09:59] <harsh343> how to install sqlite in ubuntu i am trying this sudo apt-get install sqlite
[09:59] <Thor^^> dissipate: nope, I mostly just sit in my room figuring out things on my own
[09:59] <harsh343> but i got an error
[09:59] <dissipate> Thor^^, we will be adding the capability to save/retrieve schematics as well.
[09:59] <VictorCL> how can I make find not show on screen everything is searching .. I just want it to print results
[09:59] <harsh343> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:59] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: you can wget links from websites
[09:59] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, ok
[10:00] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, kget will work ??
[10:00] <Gentoo64> never used it
[10:00] <Gentoo64> id assume it will
[10:00] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, ok
[10:00] <harsh343> how to install sqlite on ubuntu
[10:01] <Gentoo64> harsh343: have you tried sudo apt-get install sqlite
[10:01] <Gentoo64> ?
[10:01] <_ramo> llutz_ so   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:01] <_ramo> Mem:           615        585         29  this means, that there is not much RAM free anymore?
[10:01] <llutz_> VictorCL: find ....  2>/dev/null
[10:01] <harsh343> Gentoo64, yes but i got an error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:02] <Gentoo64> _ramo: that ram is probably cached not all in real use
[10:02] <llutz_> _ramo: see next line (-/+ buffers....)
[10:02] <prashant_123456> how to use bleachbit  to clean system ??
[10:02] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: it has options, some has to be run as root.
[10:02] <dr_willis> install bleachbit.. run it
[10:02] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: ive only tried it once though
[10:02] <Gentoo64> you tick boxes for stuff to clean
[10:02] <_ramo> buffers     cached
[10:02] <_ramo>      110        188
[10:02] <_ramo> llutz_ but that's not much too, right?
[10:03] <Gentoo64> _ramo: are you on ubuntu with gnome?
[10:03] <XaXoX> Gentoo64 | 2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M Graphics Card with Optimus
[10:03] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, tell me one more thing is it really safe to use bleachbit
[10:03] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: yes, but you have to be careful what options to tick
[10:03] <llutz_> _ramo: see the line starting with"-/+ buffers". the value in column "free"   is your real free ram
[10:03] <Gentoo64> i cant remember what it cleans, but if you run it as root it can clean a load of stuff which might be dangerous
[10:04] <Gentoo64> i personally wouldnt use it
[10:04] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, can it remove system files antecedently ??
[10:04] <XaXoX> Gentoo 64 | i just want to see the nvidia card kick in. cause every info i could get says i'm running on interl integrated card. is there a way to see the nvidia card working?
[10:04] <dr_willis> not system files..
[10:04] <Gentoo64> hmm i dont know, i doubt it though
[10:04] <_ramo> llutz_ there i got 286 and 328
[10:04] <Gentoo64> i doubt itll try to remove important stuff, but it might remove annoy stuff like configs or settings
[10:04] <llutz_> _ramo: so 286MB used, still 328MB free
[10:05] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, ok thanks
[10:05] <Gentoo64> _ramo: if you're on normal ubuntu with gnome, i would switch to lighter version of ubuntu with that ram
[10:05] <XaXoX> Gentoo64 and the nvidia-settings says to me the drivers are not running
[10:05] <Gentoo64> even 1 gb ram is low for gnome3
[10:05] <_ramo> Gentoo64: no not using gnome... just a small amazon instance...
[10:05] <Gentoo64> XaXoX: hmm i got no exp with that intel/optimus thing. ive heard people getting problems/confusion with it thouhg
[10:05] <mateo> any smart idea how to turn  the bloody webcam upside down
[10:05] <Gentoo64> _ramo: ok sorry
[10:06] <dr_willis> webcamstudio had all sorts of fun webcam tricks it could do.
[10:06] <james538227> hey has anyone had any luck with ralink rt2860 driver connecting to router using wpa/wp2 encryption on ubuntu server?
[10:06] <prashant_123456> can i get webcam drivers for logitech webcam ??
[10:06] <james538227> very specific question i realise
[10:06] <dr_willis> !webcam
[10:06] <Gentoo64> prashant_123456: is it not picked up be default?
[10:06] <prashant_123456> nope
[10:06] <Gentoo64> id have thought logitech would be
[10:06] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[10:07] <dr_willis> logitech makes a lot of webcams....
[10:07] <prashant_123456> Gentoo64, nope
[10:07] <Gentoo64> youll probably have to google the name of it, and ubuntu
[10:07] <dr_willis> install cheese.. see if it works..
[10:07] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, yep
[10:07] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ok
[10:07] <mateo> they make ti upside down
[10:07] <Mcpk>  what is the difference between ubentu and debian?
[10:08] <Gentoo64> lots
[10:08] <Mcpk> such as?
[10:08] <dissipate> Mcpk, a whole lot
[10:08] <Mcpk> ok
[10:08] <dissipate> Mcpk, release cycle for debian is much slower for one thing
[10:09] <Mcpk> ok
[10:09] <Mcpk> can someone help me set up a ftp, I'm really quite new to linux and having a few problems
[10:09] <dissipate> Mcpk, different purposes as well. ubuntu is more for desktop, debian is more for setting up servers.
[10:10] <dr_willis> ∩dsıpǝ ◖oʍu¿
[10:10] <james538227> is there an irc specific for ubuntuserver?
[10:10] <Gentoo64> #ubuntu-server
[10:10] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  why do you even need a ftp server?
[10:10] <Gentoo64> i think
[10:10] <Mcpk> for work
[10:10] <Mcpk> long story
[10:11] <Mcpk> and I'm coming from windows server edition
[10:11] <dr_willis> ssh can basically replace a ftp server.
[10:11] <jussi> sftp ftw
[10:11] <llutz_> srnb: it can't since it needs an sftp client
[10:11] <MeirD> Hello
[10:11] <llutz_> dr_willis: ^^
[10:11] <dr_willis> ssh and winscp. :)
[10:11] <dissipate> Mcpk, i highly recommend using sftp, not ftp. regular ftp has very bad security.
[10:12] <dr_willis> ive seen very few ftp clients that cant do sftp..
[10:12] <MeirD> Is there anyway I can know with "ls" or some other command if a directory is shared within a network?
[10:12] <dissipate> i don't even know why ftp is still around. very insecure.
[10:12] <K|nG> I change the /home chmod please can you support me what chmod I should set to /home directory to work my account to me show this: "Could not chdir to home directory /home/king: No such file or directory"
[10:12] <dr_willis> MeirD:  you can try the smbtree and smbfind command to see wha tshares are around
[10:12] <Mcpk> I have never used ssh
[10:12] <dr_willis> K|nG:  does the directory exist?
[10:13] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  i think you may want to look into it...
[10:13] <K|nG> dr_willis: yes there exist but i change the CHMOD :S
[10:13] <Mcpk> I'm doing that now
[10:13] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got all of these ebox packages: http://pastebin.com/XDBDLsLe  is there a way I can remove all? i tried doing sudo apt-get remove ebox but it said it didnt exist
[10:13] <K|nG> dr_willis: what I should do what Chmod I should set to /home to work fine again
[10:13] <Mcpk> does seem more secure
[10:13] <dr_willis> K|nG:  you canged /home or /home/king?
[10:13] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  thats an understatement
[10:13] <K|nG> dr_willis: just /home
[10:14] <Mcpk> still reading
[10:14] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2011-07-31 08:52 home
[10:14] <Mcpk> what speeds can you get with ssh?
[10:14] <K|nG> dr_willis:
[10:14] <dr_willis> as fast as you rnetwork can handle.. :) it does encryption so its got a little bit of an overhead
[10:14] <dissipate> Mcpk, depends on what your rigs and bandwidth can handle.
[10:14] <Mcpk>  it
[10:15] <Mcpk> that seems like a much better deal
[10:15] <K|nG> dr_willis: What chmode I need to do to read the /home normal users ??
[10:15] <dr_willis> and sshfs is very handy...
[10:15] <dr_willis> K|nG:  no idea off the top of my head. i cheat and use 'mc'
[10:15] <mmv> if you're cpu limited, you could use the null cipher
[10:15] <dr_willis> !permissions
[10:15] <K|nG> dr_willis: aha
[10:16] <Mcpk> and no filesize restrictions?
[10:16] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2011-07-31 08:52 home  is like 755 i think
[10:16] <llutz_> Mcpk: those are filesystem-related, not protocol
[10:16] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  huh? ssh is not a filesystem :)
[10:16] <Mcpk> ok thanks
[10:16] <dr_willis> ftp is not a filesystem either.. so not sure where that came from :)
[10:17] <dr_willis> vfat has a file size limit.
[10:17] <llutz_> quota
[10:17] <xro2> Hi, i try to configure my dual screen... i use the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX driver (installed by ubuntu) and ubuntu 10.10... Is there a GUI for the ati driver?
[10:18] <ollii> what is it with cve CVE-2010-0747
[10:18] <dr_willis> i thought the ati drivers installed a fglrx config til
[10:18] <dr_willis> tool
[10:18] <Mcpk> I was just checking as i am quite new to networking on a software level
[10:18] <Mcpk> I'm a camera technician pretty much
[10:20] <Mcpk> so... how do i set up a ssh
[10:20] <dr_willis> !ssh
[10:20] <dr_willis> instgall the ssh server.. and there ya go
[10:20] <Mcpk> thank you
[10:20] <dr_willis> !info openssopenssh-server - secure shell (SSH) server, for secure access from remote machines
[10:20] <dr_willis> doh
[10:21] <dr_willis> openssh-server - secure shell (SSH) server, for secure access from remote machines
[10:21] <xro2> does nobody know if there is a gui vailable for ATI configuration???
[10:21] <ollii> !info openssh-server
[10:21] <dr_willis> xro2:  there used to be.. check the !ati wiki page yet?
[10:21] <dr_willis> !ati
[10:22] <burn> hi guys, apperently my gtk3 layout crashes in Nautilus, is this a known problem?
[10:22] <tolmun> oahi
[10:23] <Jarhead> can anyone point me to good info about removing drm?
[10:23] <dr_willis> if you give more details perhaps
[10:24] <Jarhead> I am trying to get my ipod music to play in Rhythmbox
[10:24] <xro2> dr_willis, yes, but i have the driver but not the catalist center... should i install it?
[10:25] <dr_willis> xro2:  no idea. I dont use ati any more
[10:25] <burn> hmm, it seems to be icons, not the pure gtk-window-decorator
[10:25] <dr_willis> xro2:  fire up the package manager and see if you can find it in a package.
[10:25] <Mcpk> ok I installed the ssh sever, where do I open it?
[10:25] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  now would be a good time to read some ssh guides
[10:26] <dr_willis> Mcpk:  its a server.. you start the service (should have done allready) then you use a ssh client
[10:26] <Gentoo64> Mcpk, you use the terminal
[10:26] <dr_willis> ssh servernameorip
[10:26] <dr_willis> or use any of the 100+ other ssh clients out there
[10:27] <dr_willis> for a linux box the 'sshfs' is VERY handy for connecting a local box to a remote ssh server to transfer stuff.
[10:28] <Mcpk> I'm trying to set up the remote server now
[10:29] <xro2> does anybody install the ATI catalyst control on ubuntu 10.10? How?
[10:29] <Gentoo64> xro2, it should come with the fglrx drivers
[10:29] <Gentoo64> it did for me when i used to use ati anyway
[10:30] <hiexpo> I have a weird situation i baught a new laptop and after installling 10.04 i no longer get sound out of my speakers but if i plug headphones in i get sound
[10:31] <xro2> Gentoo64, i get the aticonfig but no GUI... it should be amdcccle or something like that, no?
[10:31] <Gentoo64> yeah
[10:31] <Gentoo64> not sure why you dnt get it
[10:31] <Gentoo64> i havent had an ati card for couple years now though
[10:32] <iceroot> hiexpo: check "alsamixer" if the speakers are muted but not the headphones
[10:32] <BlackFireNova> Hello Room
[10:32] <Gentoo64> xro2, nothing in the system settings menu?
[10:32] <rodhash> Hello guys.. I need little help with bash completion, I've ran it but it's not working properly... when I press TAB appears a space after the name.. like /etc" " instead of /etc/
[10:32] <hiexpo> iceroot, nope not muted
[10:32] <xro2> Genttoo64, no... i try apt-get install fglrx-admcccle... i will see
[10:32] <Gentoo64> ok good idea
[10:32] <iceroot> hiexpo: then i dont know, sorry
[10:33] <hiexpo> iceroot, k
[10:33] <BlackFireNova> I need help getting VirginBroadband (in Australia) Dongle to connect.  Can anyone help.  Latest version of Ubuntu 11.1 I think
[10:33] <Gentoo64> virgin media?
[10:33] <szal> BlackFireNova: don't think, know -> lsb_release -a
[10:33] <BlackFireNova> No, VirginBroadband Wirless Internet
[10:34] <BlackFireNova> (Mobile Broadband)
[10:34] <jussi> BlackFireNova: which stick do you have?
[10:34] <jussi> (they are normally plug and play in ubuntu)
[10:35] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, on Network Manager - Edit Connections - Mobile Broadband -> select Australia -> Virgin Mobile -> enter settings
[10:35] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, unless youve done all this and are facing issues
[10:35] <BlackFireNova> Jussi, it's the normal Hawaii type modem.  The system recognizes the modem and the network, I can see it there, but I dont know how to get to the edit settings, it's greyed out
[10:36] <rodhash> Anyone knows how to fix the bash_completion?
[10:36] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, press continue at the first screen (thats grayed out)
[10:36] <szal> rodhash: what to fix about it?
[10:36] <scarleo> hiexpo: If I remember corrctly the user was not member of audio group back in 10.x Maybe worth checking out
[10:36] <llutz_> rodhash: remove /etc/bash-completion.d/acroread*
[10:37] <BlackFireNova> Phlak, I have gone to network settings.  That brings up the Network dialog.  I can see Mobile Broadband in there and it's visible, but I can't seem to do anytbing else
[10:37] <xro2> Genttoo64, i should have --> amdcccle but i don't get it... how should i install that catalyst?
[10:37] <Gentoo64> i really dont know :(
[10:37] <BlackFireNova> There is a Configure Button, but it is greyed out
[10:37] <mkquist> does skype not work now?
[10:37] <dr_willis> !find amdcccle
[10:37] <scarleo> hiexpo: Ah, saw now you had some sound, maybe that's not it then
[10:38] <dr_willis> xro2:  there ya go... see above
[10:38] <Django23> Hello everyone.
[10:38] <Django23> Is there a way to launch an application on a specific screen ? Like : gedit --display=:0.1 or gedit --screen=1 ?
[10:39] <szal> mkquist: works here
[10:39] <rodhash> wow... llutz it worked perfectly!! How is it possible?
[10:39] <llutz_> rodhash: file is broken, theres a launchpad-bug about it
[10:39] <mkquist> szal: in linux?
[10:39] <mkquist> szal: mine seems not
[10:40] <xro2> dr_willis, sudo apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle was done....
[10:40] <rodhash> llutz, thanks a lot... very smart tip :)
[10:40] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, did you click on "Add" to add a new connection?
[10:40] <uid069-42-31-41-> when I type backspace in terminal i get a little "you did something silly" sound, does anyone know of a command to make this happen programatically?
[10:40] <openos> Hello Guys
[10:40] <dr_willis> xro2:  check the paackage manager guis see what files that package installed.
[10:41] <BlackFireNova> Phlak_user   No, I inserted the modem, and it appeared in the dialog already
[10:41] <openos> My Ubuntu is Slow After Installing jupiter
[10:41] <hiexpo> scarleo, do what now ?
[10:41] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, try without inserting the modem
[10:41] <mkquist> szal: which version of ubuntu?
[10:41] <openos> And I need Some Wifi Crack tools
[10:41] <Gentoo64> i doubt crackings supported here
[10:41] <dr_willis> and whats Jupiter?
[10:42] <szal> mkquist: 11.10, Skype 2.2.0.35
[10:42] <mkquist> szal: ty
[10:42] <BlackFireNova> Phlak - I take the modem out, and hit the plus sign, and it gives me a dialog to select a new interface to connect, however it only offers VPN
[10:42] <BlackFireNova> Don't I need PPP?
[10:42] <phlak_user> dr_willis, its a system-monitoring-tweaking tool
[10:42] <scarleo> hiexpo: I thought maybe you had to add user to audio group, but then I read that you did have some sound so that's probably no it :) sorry
[10:42] <openos> Jupiter is a app can controle the power of a netbook
[10:43] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, which plus sign? close the dialog; go to network manager- click on edit connections, select the mobile broadband tab click on add
[10:43] <xro2> dr_willis, i saw the list of file... and?
[10:43] <openos> Help i need Wpa cracking tools
[10:43] <phlak_user> openos, wrong channel
[10:43] <openos> How i can add Backtrack tools to Ubuntu *
[10:43] <Gentoo64> install them
[10:43] <BlackFireNova> Phlak, this newest version of Ubuntu does not seem to have anything resembling "Edit Connections"  At least not that I can see
[10:43] <szal> !backtrack | openos
[10:44] <Gentoo64> openos, just look at the backtrack program list, and try to find them...
[10:44] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, it does, i am on 11.10
[10:44] <BlackFireNova> LOL, I believe you, but where is it located?
[10:44] <Gentoo64> openos, i doubt ubuntu has them all in their repos though
[10:44] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, do you have a small network icon on the system tray top right
[10:44] <openos> i Dont think
[10:44] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, click on it and edit connections will be the last option
[10:45] <openos> i need AirCracker-Ng
[10:45] <Gentoo64> well
[10:45] <Gentoo64> thats what you need to install then
[10:45] <BlackFireNova> It has Email, Battery, Bluetooth, Wireless (currently disabled) Sepaker, "Time, User, and a gear symbol at the extreme right
[10:45] <uid069-42-31-41-> anyone know how I can get Toolkit.beep to work in ubnutu, the forums do not seem to have a solution
[10:45] <Gentoo64> but like i said i dont think cracking peoples wifi is supported here
[10:45] <uid069-42-31-41-> anyone know how I can get java Toolkit.beep to work in ubnutu, the forums do not seem to have a solution
[10:45] <llutz_> !info aircrack-ng   | openos
[10:45] <Goeland86> hey guys, quick question - I'm new to Ubuntu (long time gentoo user, until drivers on laptop became a pb), and I'd like to get my user account to be able to modify the active network config
[10:45] <hiexpo> what is the command to show me what video card i have iforgot
[10:45] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, yes, wireless (could also be wired/mobile broadband) is the network manager
[10:46] <szal> lol..  1.1-1.1build1
[10:46] <llutz_> made nov 11, 2011
[10:46] <szal> probably
[10:46] <BlackFireNova> Ahhhhhhhhh  Got it, Thanks Phlak, that's what I was looking for, I just had no idea where it is.  Thanks, I'll have a go now
[10:46] <Goeland86> my user account is not setup by Ubuntu - it's reusing a /home from my gentoo config, any idea how to allow me to do that?
[10:46] <openos> it"s safe switch to high performance mode in Jupiter for a netbook
[10:46] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, ok
[10:47] <Michiellll> now ive updated ubuntu i can't select the  classic theme anymore, is it still accessible somehow? i don't really like all the fancy stuff
[10:48] <Alastair_G> quick question about keyboard shortcuts: what format are these commands supposed to be in? i can't get anything to run (that runs in bash)
[10:48] <iceroot> !nounity | Michiellll
[10:48] <szal> !notunity | Michiellll
[10:48] <openos> Slow Performance after jupiter install
[10:48] <iceroot> Michiellll: gnome-panel is maybe what you are looking for
[10:48] <dr_willis> Goeland86:  shareing /home/username from differnt disrots - can cause issues with ownership and permissions
[10:48] <szal> ah, they merged the 2 factoids in the meantime
[10:48] <phlak_user> Goeland86, yes; set that as your home directory and make sure ownership is also taken care of
[10:48] <dr_willis> Goeland86:  using a differnt username.. might be safer
[10:49] <szal> disrots?  what's rotten in the userspace? ;)
[10:49] <Goeland86> dr_willis, I'm aware, that's not the problem however, as gentoo uses e17 and ubuntu atm is on unity - I'm guessing it's user permissions on ubuntu
[10:49] <Goeland86> dr_willis, and I am able to login
[10:49] <dr_willis> Goeland86:  even the ownership of the dirs user:group can be differnt
[10:49] <keethu> my package information is not updating
[10:49] <Goeland86> dr_willis, I've got scripts on startup fixing that for me ;)
[10:50] <dr_willis> so i would be checking them very carefully
[10:50] <Alastair_G> keyboard shortcuts, anyone? i'm trying to bind "gnome-screenshot -i" to Print but it does nothing while in the terminal it works perfectly
[10:50] <szal> the important thing when sharing /home dirs across distros is that uid and gid of the users are the same
[10:50] <openos> how to get the gtk interface for Aircrack
[10:50] <Gentoo64> Goeland86, easiest way would just be to use an ubuntu /home, and mnaually copy certain files over
[10:50] <keethu> can any one help with updating package information
[10:50] <mowcius> Hey guys - having some trouble installing - tried 32 bit and 64 bit desktop disks (11.10) and keep getting 'error reading sector ##'
[10:50] <Goeland86> Gentoo64, fair enough. Or link to them with open group-based perms
[10:51] <dr_willis> mowcius:  you did check the md5sums of the isos?
[10:51] <szal> and one might want to have a look at the default group for the user; is it the group w/ the same name as the user or is it 'users'..
[10:51] <mowcius> dr_willis: no I did not but that's a good point - is that a likely cause of my problems?
[10:51] <Gentoo64> Goeland86, yeah well im assuming not ALL the programs are the same on both distros.. and they might be different versions etc so i would do it the manual way
[10:51] <Goeland86> szal, thanks for the pointers, I think I'll do as Gentoo64 suggests and do a new home dir
[10:51] <dr_willis> mowcius:  unless its saying theres a  sector issue with the hard drive...
[10:51] <keethu> can any one help with updating package information
[10:52] <dr_willis> keethu:  clarify what you mean
[10:52] <mowcius> well I dunno - might it be?
[10:52] <llutz_> keethu: sudo apt-get update
[10:52] <phlak_user> Alastair_G, you can check in Keyboard layout - options
[10:52] <Goeland86> Gentoo64, actually, there shouldn't be any trouble on that end - my gentoo wasn't THAT bleeding edge that the config formats differed
[10:52]  * Michiellll wonders why nobody ever answers his questions
[10:52] <Michiellll> does it mean nobody knows? that would be doubtfull wouldn't it?
[10:52] <SuibaruX> Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly)
[10:52] <keethu> its says there occured a problem while updating package info
[10:52] <Goeland86> Michiellll, because it was already answered by a bot up above
[10:52] <keethu> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[10:53] <dr_willis> Michiellll:  or its a vague question
[10:53] <Goeland86> anyways, gotta run, but I'll try the new /home idea a try.
[10:53] <openos> My Ubuntu So slow In Hp Netbook Whit Intel Atom ANd 1 Go RAM
[10:53] <mowcius> dr_willis: where do I find the checksums?
[10:53] <dr_willis> in 11.10 gnome 2 is dead. theres some 'look alike' modes. but they are also lacking  - best to use unity or gnome-shell or some other desktop  these days
[10:53] <dr_willis> !md5
[10:54] <dr_willis> mowcius:  they are one the download site somewhere i recall.
[10:54] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, 3 people answered you, please see above. ^
[10:54] <keethu> Something wicked happened resolving 'medibuntu.sos-sts.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[10:54] <mowcius> dr_willis: can't find them :p
[10:54] <openos> nobody"s help
[10:54] <Ach_Wheesht> Hello?
[10:54] <dr_willis> openos:  try lubuntu for low end machines.
[10:55] <openos> where i can fin it
[10:55] <keethu> i have done it before, same thing is coming up
[10:55] <keethu> Something wicked happened resolving 'medibuntu.sos-sts.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[10:55] <dr_willis> !lubuntu | openos
[10:55] <Mcpk> what about xubentu? is that any good
[10:55] <dr_willis> !xubuntu | Mcpk
[10:55] <openos> But Ubuntu Said that ubuntu work like sharme in netbook
[10:55] <SuibaruX> Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly)
[10:55] <SuibaruX> Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly)
[10:55] <phlak_user> my touchpad is always disabled at boot; i need to manually toggle the fn+f3 key-combo to activate it again; how do i enable it always?
[10:55] <szal> !repeat | SuibaruX
[10:55] <Gentoo64> SuibaruX, i think its restricted-extras
[10:55] <openos> Windows 7 Work Fine But Ubuntu is so slow
[10:56] <keethu> Something wicked happened resolving 'medibuntu.sos-sts.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) what does it mean
[10:56] <hiexpo> ? when installing the ati propiertory driver i am running the 32 bit 10.04 but my system is 64 which one do i need to install the 32 right ?
[10:56] <overdrive> SuibaruX: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:56] <mowcius> dr_willis: found them with a bit of google
[10:56] <Ach_Wheesht> Quick question: my kayboard has several broken keys, and while i've remapped then in windows, i can't remap them in my laptops BIOS. Can anyone suggest a solution?
[10:56] <phlak_user> SuibaruX, one such package is gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:56] <szal> keethu: you too, don't repeat yourself quickly
[10:56] <openos> plaizz give me the french chnel
[10:56] <BlackFireNova> I'm back Phlak.  I've configured the broadband according to a forum note I have, but it will not connect.  APN VirginBroadband, PAP only, Number:*99#  no username or Password   What am I missing?
[10:56] <openos> chanel
[10:56] <dr_willis> hiexpo:  you install the one based on your os installed.
[10:56] <keethu> Something wicked happened resolving 'medibuntu.sos-sts.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[10:57] <szal> !fr | openos
[10:57] <keethu> szal, how can i get rid of it
[10:57] <hiexpo> dr_willis, ok thanks i thought so
[10:57] <SuibaruX> overdrive: any difference from kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:57] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, you need to tail your syslog file when its trying to connect (tail -f /var/log/syslog) ; that will throw up some clues; you can even pastebin the output
[10:58] <szal> keethu: use the correct address; that address you have seems not to exisst (any more)
[10:58] <szal> *exist
[10:58] <llutz_> !medibuntu
[10:58] <llutz_> keethu: ^^
[10:58] <keethu> szal:show i remove the check mark in repositories
[10:58] <BlackFireNova> LOL Phlak, you lost me there, I'm a Ubuntu Newbie.  Can you give it to me in baby talk 'smiles'
[10:59] <keethu> szal:should i remove the check mark in repositories
[10:59] <szal> BlackFireNova: you got the exact command
[10:59] <mowcius> dr_willis: right, checksums are the same - any other ideas?
[10:59] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, if it doesnt connect, we need to see why its not connecting; that can be done by looking at the logs that the network manager writes
[11:00] <laoli> Can anyone help me that how can I visit a windows machine in the LAN?
[11:00] <szal> keethu: remove that repository, then follow the repository howto at http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[11:01] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, so type that command -> tail -f /var/log/syslog; wait for messages like pppd etc to show up and press ctl-c to exit and select that lot of text and paste it at http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[11:01] <BlackFireNova> NP, Phlak, where do I find those logs?  I can copy and paste the command, however I'm not sure how to open the command line.  I have some familiarity with Linux, just not sure how to get to the logs in Ubuntu.  Sorry to be so lame
[11:01] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, open up gnome-terminal and then type that command
[11:02] <keethu> szal: okay, i'l try now
[11:02] <BlackFireNova> Is that in System Settings dialog, or where do I find it?
[11:04] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, umm type terminal in the dash bar
[11:04] <laoli> phlak_user: can you help me on how can i visit Windows machine in LAN?
[11:05] <Sidewinder1> !ssh | laoli
[11:05] <harsh343> due to some reason my os ubuntu 11.10 corrupted right now i am using live cd now i want to recover my downloads folder what i can do ??????????
[11:05] <dr_willis> ssh would be for ssh. not samba. :)
[11:06] <phlak_user> laoli, sure just click on nautilus (file explorer) and click on Browse Network
[11:06] <dr_willis> or enter the url directly (ctrl-l) then smb://the.server.name.orip#/sharename
[11:07] <mowcius> Right - anyone else got any ideas on an error reading sector when loading up an install disk? Then the process hangs. checksums are fine, tried both 64 bit and 32 bit disks which I just burned
[11:07] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Thanks doc.
[11:07] <szal> mowcius: did you run the medium self-check beforehand?
[11:07] <BlackFireNova> OK, no doubt I'm going to feel like a fool, phlak, but this interface is new to me, and I don't see what you're referring to.  I have a number of icons at the left, and menus at the top, but I don't see where I can access the Gnome terminal or anywhere I could type in a search query (I presume that I'm looking for something similar to the "Run" command in Windows)?
[11:07] <mowcius> szal: no?
[11:07] <laoli> phlak_user: it would not help i'm afraid. it just showed a "WORKGROUP" and nothing else; I can not visit any machine in that workgroup
[11:08] <theadmin> BlackFireNova: Just open the dash
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, I sometimes get them confused, obviously; I wouldn't have answered but it appeared, no one else was. It's all good. :-)
[11:08] <szal> mowcius: then do that & see if the medium got corrupted during/after burning
[11:08] <phlak_user> theadmin, he doesnt know what that is :(
[11:08] <dr_willis> they really should have put a link to a uniity ussage guide on the desktop :)
[11:08] <theadmin> BlackFireNova: Press the Super (Windows) key or press the Ubuntu logo in the top
[11:08] <mowcius> szal - how do I do that?
[11:09] <phlak_user> laoli, that might be due to your network not being configured/connected
[11:09] <szal> mowcius: boot the option 'Check install medium for errors' or what it's called, I can't memorize that for the love of it
[11:09] <phlak_user> laoli, we have no way of knowing even if that windows machine and yours are on the same LAN; can ping each other etc etc
[11:09] <luca_bi>  nickserv identify LucaBiolcati fili1982
[11:09] <mowcius> I don't get that far
[11:09] <phlak_user> luca_bi, ok we know your password now :) change it
[11:09] <szal> luca_bi: fail
[11:09] <mowcius> szal - I boot the disk and don't get to any options
[11:09] <laoli> phlak_user: I tried to config samba, and it worked once, but now I can not repeat it anymore
[11:10] <BlackFireNova> Ok, found it, LOL.  Now, let me scroll up and get that command.  BRB
[11:10] <laoli> BlackFireNova: press"Alt+F2", and type "gnome-terminal"
[11:10] <Sidewinder1> mowcius, Did you burn the disks at "the slowest speed?"
[11:10] <phlak_user> !samba| laoli
[11:10] <mowcius> Sidewinder1: no
[11:10] <mowcius> I'll do another and see if it goes any better
[11:11] <Sidewinder1> mowcius, Good luck!
[11:11] <mowcius> I've not had an issue with burning before but I'll try that
[11:11] <mowcius> I'll be back in a few mins with a progress report ;)
[11:11] <szal> Sidewinder1, mowcius: slowest speed isn't strictly necessary; what is necessary, however, is DAO or SAO (it's the same, just a different name)
[11:11] <harsh343> Hello all I am using ubuntu live cd i want to see my downloads what i have but not able to see
[11:11] <mowcius> DAO/SAO?
[11:12] <szal> mowcius: disk/session-at-once
[11:12] <laoli> phlak_user: yes, samba, and I think I have config it right, although someone told me that i might messed something up ...
[11:12] <harsh343> Hello all
[11:12] <mowcius> szal - ok what does that mean ;)
[11:12] <dr_willis> harsh343:  mount your installed system, see whats in the home direcotry on it.
[11:12] <szal> mowcius: that the burner writes the complete disc including lead-in and lead-out in one go
[11:13] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you might need to access the files as root.
[11:13] <phlak_user> laoli, messed what?
[11:13] <mowcius> szal - yes it does (as far as I know)
[11:13] <phlak_user> laoli, can you try with smbclient in a terminal?
[11:13] <harsh343> dr_gonzo, hows ?
[11:13] <harsh343> dr_willis, hows ?
[11:13] <Sidewinder1> laoli, I think you also have to configure the Win boxes to "share" the various disks/directories, no?
[11:13] <laoli> phlak_user: one of my friend told me that samba is very difficult to config and he don't think I did it in the right way
[11:14] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you see the installed system in the file manager  under the places?
[11:14] <phlak_user> laoli, as a client, theres not much to configure
[11:14] <laoli> Sidewinder1: I just wanna visit these Windows machine, not to share. So I need to config "share" anyway?
[11:15] <laoli> phlak_user: I'm sure it worked once, but only once
[11:15] <Sidewinder1> laoli, I'm not sure; it was just a thought to try..
[11:15] <phlak_user> laoli, just type smbclient -L windows-machine-name
[11:15] <BlackFireNova> Hang on, got to re-enable the wireless so I can get the netbook online so I can get there
[11:16] <phlak_user> laoli, replace windows-machine-name with the netbios name of that machine
[11:16] <laoli> phlak_user: the problem is, sometimes i just can not remember the full name of the machine, nor the IP address, so i wannna view these machines in the folder...
[11:16] <phlak_user> laoli, it should show you the resources on the machine
[11:16] <harsh343> dr_willis, where ?
[11:17] <kalite> hello
[11:17] <phlak_user> laoli, this will only help you establish if your samba is working fine
[11:17] <laoli> phlak_user: however, there is another way I can visit : place -> connect to server. this works
[11:18] <phlak_user> laoli, ok
[11:18] <laoli> so what could be the problem?\
[11:18] <e01> hello
[11:18] <Gentoo64> hi
[11:18] <laoli> phlak_user: so what could be the problme?
[11:18] <e01> is it possible to make unity launcher not show whole windows when i had multiple windows minimized but just a text selections like docky?
[11:18] <dr_willis> harsh343:  the file manager should list all shown drives/filesstems, on the left or in the places menu item
[11:20] <BlackFireNova> Phlak, OK, I've pasted the text from the log.  Sorry about the delay
[11:20] <harsh343> dr_willis, i am able to see the drives and all things in the left panel now
[11:20] <harsh343> ?
[11:21] <yasser> halo
[11:21] <laoli> harsh343: I guess you could find what you have download now
[11:22] <harsh343> laoli, no
[11:22] <harsh343> when i click on downloads it show blank
[11:22] <harsh343> but i have the download files before corrupt
[11:23] <harsh343> right now i am using live CD
[11:23] <laoli> harsh343: sorry I have not used Live CD yet.
[11:23] <harsh343> dr_willis, help
[11:23] <dr_willis> if you see your other files.. but not the files in the download directory.. well...  thats not a good sign
[11:23] <harsh343> laoli, ok
[11:23] <laoli> harsh343: I guess maybe you should mount the disk to find?
[11:23] <BlackFireNova> phlax_user, I've posted the log file (just repeating previous post).  sorry about the delay there
[11:24] <dr_willis> harsh343:  the other files in your home are still there?
[11:24] <laoli> phlak_user: thank you for your help
[11:24] <rishikanta> hello.. anyone ever used iphone on ubuntu?
[11:24] <harsh343> laoli, may be i think so
[11:25] <harsh343> dr_willis, no
[11:25] <dissipate> rishikanta, you mean hook your iphone up to your machine running ubuntu?
[11:25] <rishikanta> yes
[11:25] <dissipate> rishikanta, i have not, no.
[11:25] <harsh343> laoli, how to mount
[11:26] <rishikanta> I am able to mount the ipod and see all the files... but after unmounting it, my iphone is not detected on other windows PCs
[11:27] <rishikanta> sorry, I meant mount the iphone and see all the files
[11:27] <harsh343> dr_willis, what i can do i want to show my downloads folder what i have in the past
[11:28] <BlackFireNova> phlak_user, are you still here?
[11:28] <harsh343> after pressing (alt + ctrl) del  i am in command prompt how again i come back ?
[11:28] <mowcius> trying the alternative download...
[11:28] <laoli> harsh343: sorry i don't know...
[11:28] <mowcius> *alternative installer
[11:28] <harsh343> laoli, ok
[11:29] <mowcius> menwhile I'll play with the linux on this network camera ;)
[11:29] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got all of these ebox packages: http://pastebin.com/XDBDLsLe  is there a way I can remove all? i tried doing sudo apt-get remove ebox but it said it didnt exist
[11:29] <mowcius> *meanwhile
[11:29] <BlackFireNova> Hello room, am I still here, LOL?
[11:29] <laoli> BlackFireNova: I guess so
[11:29] <BlackFireNova> LOL, Thanks laoli
[11:30] <laoli> BlackFireNova: it's OK. I'm just haunting around...
[11:30] <Michiellll> i downloaded the newest cd, burned it and put it in my laptop, but its been showing the loading screen for over 10minutes now
[11:31] <Michiellll> is there any way to see what's happening?
[11:31] <BlackFireNova> Sometimes my connection goes south, and I can see the room, but I'm like casper the friendly ghost, invisible.  'smiles'
[11:31] <dr_willis> harsh343:  so you are in /somemounpiing/home/yourusername  ?
[11:31] <EuroNerd> How do I make Ubuntu discover a USB device that has been disconnected "unsafely"?  To be more precise: I've accidentally hijacked my USB speakers with VirtualBox and then returned control back to host, but now Ubuntu doesn't see them. (I don't see them as an optional output in Sound Settings.)
[11:31] <laoli> AdvoWork: is it a deb or source code or binary ?
[11:32] <EuroNerd> ...I should add: without logging out or rebooting.
[11:32] <laoli> 19:31 <laoli> AdvoWork: is it a deb or source code or binary ?
[11:32] <BlackFireNova> phlak_user, I've posted the text of the log file.  Did it show up?  Any ideas on why the virginbroadband is not connecting?
[11:32] <AdvoWork> laoli, im not sure, how can i tell? i think i installed it via sudo apt-get a while ago if that helps
[11:33] <harsh343> dr_willis, any command to see the downloads what i have
[11:33] <harsh343> my user name is harsh
[11:33] <laoli> AdvoWork: i guess you can surely apt-get remove it if you apt-get install it. maybe you should look up what packages are installed when using apt-get install?
[11:33] <dr_willis> harsh343:  cd to where they are at and use ls
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> BlackFireNova, If you've copied it to pastebin, you need to give us the URL.
[11:34] <dr_willis> harsh343:  bash basic stuff here...
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin | BlackFireNova
[11:34] <dr_willis> harsh343:  and rember that CASE is imporntant
[11:34] <dr_willis> harsh343:  what files are in the users home directory?
[11:34] <BlackFireNova> Ahhhhh  sorry, I'm new to this  paste.ubuntu.com/748081
[11:34] <Revo> urgh, why does ubuntu keep over writingmmy resolve.conf?
[11:34] <laoli> AdvoWork: i tried apt-get install ebox, and it seems to download the whole world
[11:35] <Revo> I've set static entries but on reboots it wipes it with dhcp results
[11:35] <harsh343> dr_willis,  downloads files
[11:35] <dr_willis> harsh343:  cd Downloads  and then ls and see whats there.
[11:35] <AdvoWork> laoli, thats the problem, i cant just remove ebox, so how would i remove all the packages I want? like sudo apt-get remove ebox* but that doesnt work
[11:35] <dr_willis> If its 'Downloads'
[11:35] <harsh343> ok
[11:36] <laoli> AdvoWork: maybe i can copy the packages to you
[11:36] <BlackFireNova> ubottu, did I get that right?  Is that the information you need to see the post?
[11:36] <laoli> AdvoWork: but i think you'd better not to remove all of them,
[11:37] <BlackFireNova> Ahhhhhh LOL
[11:37] <Sidewinder1> BlackFireNova, You need to preface that link with, http://
[11:37] <laoli> ubottu: so you should set your nickname to [POD]ubottu(96) :-)
[11:37] <BlackFireNova> OK, Sorry htto://paste.ubuntu.com/748081
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> o=p
[11:38] <BlackFireNova> Oops, LOL   http://paste.ubuntu.com/748081    (slaps the typist)
[11:38] <Michiellll> i put in the installdisc over 15min ago http://i.imgur.com/nkfkQl.jpg help?
[11:39] <EuroNerd> How do I make Ubuntu rediscover a USB device (speakers) that has been disconnected "unsafely"?
[11:39] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, can you get some more lines before this? (type less /var/log/syslog)
[11:39] <Sidewinder1> BlackFireNova, That worked! Unfortunately I can't comfortably answer your question. :-( Perhaps, now, some one else can..
[11:41] <sagaci> BlackFireNova: what's the modem model
[11:42] <BlackFireNova> phlak_user   There's a whole lot more in there now that I reconnected the wireless connection.  Do you want the whole of it?
[11:43] <BlackFireNova> sagaci   E189
[11:43] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, anything that talks about pppd, ttyUSB, Virgin Broadband
[11:43] <charminthemoose> Given my power on hours and load cycle count, should I take the data presented here seriously? http://pastebin.ca/2095353
[11:43] <Besogon> Hi! Does someone know how-to capture DV video (FireWire)????
[11:43] <Michiellll> i put in the installdisc over 15min ago http://i.imgur.com/nkfkQl.jpg help?
[11:43] <Michiellll> i pressed the power button on my laptop and it started shutting down the install, the last command before acpid:exiting was: "Checking for running unattended-upgrades"
[11:43] <Michiellll> can this be a problem somehow?
[11:44] <Michiellll> i would guess its trying to access the internet but doesnt have it... :S
[11:45] <Michiellll> nobody?
[11:46] <BlackFireNova> Bear with me Phlak_user  I'm hunting for those entries.   I'm not sure how to search in this terminal (if it's possible)
[11:46] <phlak_user> BlackFireNova, using the "Search" menu?
[11:47] <BlackFireNova> LOL  (bangs head on desk)  Still thinking like old DOS, wasn't aware there WAS a menu.
[11:51] <BlackFireNova> phlak_user, maybe there is some kind of time delay for the system to suss out the modem, because it has just connected.  Weird indeed
[11:51] <BlackFireNova> LOL maybe it was my banging the head on the desk, jarred it into operation (takes an aspirin)
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> BlackFireNova, To "fix" most things electronic, just give them a "good thrashing." :D
[11:54] <harsh343> dr_willis, I am trying cd Downloads then ls nothing to display
[11:55] <BlackFireNova> LOL Sidewinder.  Like when I was in a camera repair class, one of the guys joked.  It's easy to get the smoke OUT of a circuit...........  but a F.... of a lot harder to get it back IN again, LOLOL
[11:55] <Michiellll> well so far for trying to install ubuntu :/
[11:55] <dr_willis> harsh343:  could be its all gone.. ls -al shows anything? does ls -al show anything in the parrent directory?
[11:56] <Besogon> Does someone know how-to capture DV video (FireWire)????
[11:56] <BlackFireNova> Thank you all for your kind assistance.    BlackFireNova is signing off.   Be well, All.  Goodnight
[11:57] <alexluya> anyone use feh as image viewer,how to set it as default viewer?It has been installed but didn't show in "open with" list.
[11:57] <deej1976> harsh343: df -lh | pastebinit
[11:58] <Sidewinder1> harsh343, Perhaps you inadvertently 'moved", (hopefully not 'deleted'), the files that were in download. Try a search, in nautilus, of the entire drive, for an exact file-name that you're sure "was" in Downloads..
[12:00] <harsh343> deej1976, you will have to be enable the component called 'universe'
[12:00] <harsh343> message shown
[12:00] <harsh343> dr_willis, drwxr-xr-x  2 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2011-11-24 16:33 .
[12:00] <harsh343> drwxr-xr-x 21 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2011-11-24 17:08 ..
[12:00] <deej1976> harsh343: Can you pastebin the output of df -lh
[12:01] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[12:01] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/v0qrS360
[12:02] <deej1976> harsh343: You currently do not have the old filesystem mounted.
[12:02] <harsh343> deej1976, then ?
[12:03] <deej1976> sudo fdisk -l
[12:03] <deej1976> pastebin plz
[12:03] <harsh343> ok
[12:03] <Besogon> Does someone know how-to capture DV video (FireWire)????
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> remind me, what's firewire again?
[12:04] <deej1976> !info dvgrab
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> ah yes, the apple cable
[12:05] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/1RqH1geZ
[12:05] <deej1976> harsh343: sudo mkdir /mnt ; sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt ; cd /mnt/harsh/Downloads ; ls
[12:06] <dr_willis> apple claims all sorts of standards as their own. :)
[12:06] <sKeiths> i'm looking at upgrading hardy to lucid with do-release-upgrade, but i noted that it will remove heartbeat-2. will upgrading break my drbd?
[12:09] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/CiJkngYR
[12:09] <harsh343> my username is hary
[12:09] <laoli> harsh343: could you tell me how to post these logs?
[12:10] <harsh343> laoli, means ?
[12:10] <laoli> harsh343: how to post the logs in the "pastebin.com"?
[12:10] <DSNx> laoli: Pastes to http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin | laoli
[12:11] <laoli> DSNx: thank you
[12:11] <deej1976> harsh343: cd /mnt/home/hary/Downloads
[12:11] <DSNx> laoli: enter name, paste logs click send
[12:11] <fff> hi
[12:11] <harsh343> laoli, I am using other system for chat and i have wi-fi in my office so by using gtalk and pastebin
[12:12] <laoli> harsh343: i'm using emacs for irc...
[12:12] <harsh343> deej1976, next ?
[12:12] <deej1976> ls -lart into pastebin
[12:12] <harsh343> laoli, emacs for mac os ?
[12:13] <sKeiths> i pressed y anyhow. upgrade in progress.
[12:13] <harsh343> ye now i see my downloads now what next
[12:13] <alexluya> I knew that update "/home/alex/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list"
[12:14] <laoli> harsh343: no, emacs for linux
[12:14] <laoli> harsh343: i think you have already find your Downloads folder
[12:15] <harsh343> deej1976, now i am able to see there names in command prompt
[12:15] <harsh343> laoli, nopes right now some one can help me to find it
[12:15] <laoli> harsh343: sorry, just cd /mnt and then "ls". what do you get?
[12:15]  * Michiellll is gonna try one last time
[12:15] <Michiellll> Can anyone help me find out why the installation stops and just keeps showing the loading screen?
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> harsh343, Perhaps you inadvertently 'moved", (hopefully not 'deleted'), the files that were in download. Try a search, in nautilus, of the entire drive, for an exact file-name that you're sure "was" in Downloads..
[12:17] <deej1976> nautilus /mnt/home/hary/Downloads
[12:17] <harsh343> ok deej1976
[12:17] <deej1976> harsh343: Plug-in a usb stick and copy them off
[12:18] <harsh343> deej1976, sudo also
[12:18] <laoli> !pastebin
[12:19] <deej1976> harsh343: maybe
[12:19] <harsh343> deej1976, yes
[12:20] <harsh343> deej1976, i have only one USB and i am using live through this
[12:21] <harsh343> deej1976, and also i have two os in my system so it is possible to paste in the other drive
[12:22] <deej1976> harsh343: yes just mount one of the other drives i.e. sudo mkdir /win_mnt /dev/sda# ( were # is the partition number of other os )
[12:22] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Have you already installed it or are you only trying to run from Live CD, in order to install?
[12:23] <laoli> deej1976: how to list all the partitions or harddisks? fdisk -l?
[12:23] <chroot> hi, how to use talk command in ubuntu.
[12:23] <deej1976> laoli: sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <chroot> it doesn't work
[12:23] <chroot> how
[12:24] <laoli> deej1976: thx
[12:24] <deej1976> chroot: sudo apt-get install talk ?
[12:24] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 i downloaded it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, burned it and put it in the laptop, it just stops doing anything at some point with the loading screen
[12:24] <chroot> i installed the talk
[12:24] <chroot> and then?
[12:25] <harsh343> deej1976, Thanks very much again You are always helpful for me
[12:25] <chroot> when i type talk in terminal,  with usename , it dosen't work
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Did you md5sum the ISO, prior to burning it "at the slowest speed?"
[12:25] <deej1976> talk [userid]
[12:25] <Michiellll> no
[12:25] <deej1976> talk [userid] [ttyname]
[12:25] <chroot> deej1976,  userid?
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, That's the first thing I'd try.
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> md5sum | Michiellll
[12:26] <deej1976> chroot: man talk: If you wish to talk to someone on your own machine, then person is just the person's login name.
[12:26] <Michiellll> no when i press the power button it shows the last line before acpid:exiting being "checking for running unattended-upgrades:"
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | Michiellll
[12:26] <Michiellll> does that mean anything
[12:26] <Michiellll> and i'll do that
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | Michiellll
[12:27] <Michiellll> i said i'll do that :p
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:27] <chroot> deej1976, when i type talk usename, i got this:[Checking for invitation on caller's machine]
[12:27] <harsh343> deej1976, I run this command sudo apt-get remove sqlite* and my ubuntu corrupted why ?
[12:28] <harsh343> I am trying this command in the morning
[12:28] <deej1976> harsh343: Can you pastebin the completed output
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, If they match exactly, you then, might try re-burning at the slowest speed; also make sure you downloaded the correct version; 32 bit for 32 bit, etc..
[12:28] <chroot> and deej1976 , have you ever used the talk command
[12:28] <chroot> ?
[12:29] <harsh343> deej1976, now it is not possible to paste this command because right now my ubuntu is corrupted and i am using live usb
[12:29] <harsh343> right now
[12:30] <harsh343> this thing happen in the morning right now it is evening here
[12:30] <deej1976> chroot: Not for a long time, just truying now
[12:30] <micsch> hi, i habe a problem since the last kernel update: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown block (0,0)
[12:31] <deej1976> harsh343: I'm not going to be able to help with out the output
[12:31] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 where can i find the md5 file?
[12:31] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[12:32] <harsh343> I want to install fresh ubuntu 11
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | Michiellll
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Was that what you're looking for?
[12:32] <harsh343> again now what i can do deej1976 i am also using XP
[12:33] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 no but i found a md5sum.txt on the disc that it seems to be
[12:33] <Michiellll> seems to be taking a while tho
[12:34] <deej1976> chroot: talk username@localhost
[12:34] <harsh343> deej1976, I want to install fresh ubuntu 11.10 and i am using live usb right now
[12:34] <harsh343> i have an option install ubuntu but i donot want to disturb my other OS also which is XP
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Are you currently using Windows?
[12:35] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 yes
[12:35] <chroot> deej1976, still nothing. i got this
[12:35] <chroot> :
[12:35] <chroot> [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]
[12:36] <Michiellll> one did not match
[12:36] <Michiellll> ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: FAILED
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Perhaps, have a look here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:36] <Michiellll> doesnt seem vital, it isnt right?
[12:36] <deej1976> harsh343: If you go with install, it will prompt you with and harddisk installation option, along the lines of Wipe of all os's, install along side old ubuntu install, and install fresh copy ( wiping out old ubuntu )
[12:36] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 i just checked it
[12:36] <Michiellll> one didn't match
[12:36] <Michiellll> ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: FAILED
[12:36] <Michiellll> but that doesnt seem vital
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, If the md5sums don't match, exactly, you need to re-download the ISO, md5sum that new one; then, burn at the slowest speed..
[12:37] <deej1976> chroot: Is the other user connected? try last username | head and use the pts terminal
[12:38] <deej1976> chroot: e.g talk username@localhost pts/2
[12:38] <deej1976> chroot: I've got this working on 11.10 just now
[12:38] <orated> How to switch X session in the system connected with ssh? ie to change from display manager to tty?
[12:39] <helloworld> Hello! How can I connect to an ftp server from my terminal window?
[12:39] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 ok i'll do that
[12:39] <dr_willis> orated:  if you want to kill the x session remotely. 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[12:39] <deej1976> helloworld: ftp remote.server.com
[12:39] <harsh343> deej1976, when i click on install option message display Unmount partitions the are in use ? /dev/sda   NO and Yes what i can do ?
[12:40] <helloworld> deej1976: Ok but where do I put the username and password for it?
[12:40] <deej1976> harsh343: In a commandline umount the two filesystems you mount eariler
[12:40] <chroot> deej1976,  i got confused,  what the command the another user should input?
[12:40] <helloworld> deej1976: and of course the port number
[12:40] <deej1976> helloworld: It will prompt when connected to the server
[12:41] <helloworld> deej1976: Alright! Thanks!
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Before you go, this is a great step-by-step: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[12:41] <harsh343> deej1976, what i can do right now i have two options yes or no and cancel
[12:41] <fff> hi
[12:41] <deej1976> helloworld: ftp should be 21 be standard
[12:42] <gardebienk> salut
[12:42] <harsh343> port number 22 i think se deej1976
[12:42] <harsh343> so*
[12:42] <orated> dr_willis: Yes, stopping display manager is fine with me but will stopping drop the session to tty?
[12:42] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 thanks but it doesnt seem to show anything i dont know, i just cant do much of anything when the loading screen doesnt end :P
[12:43] <gardebienk> sava
[12:43] <dr_willis> orated:  if X is not running.. it will go to the console.
[12:43] <harsh343> deej1976, command for unmount ? i click on cancel
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, That's 'cause you got a 'bad' ISO... I think..
[12:43] <orated> dr_willis: What I meant to ask is like how Ctrl+F1 2..etc key combination helps to change the x session, in the same way can that be done from server on a client system when using ssh
[12:43] <valentin> salut
[12:44] <valentin> tu me voi kev
[12:44] <gardebienk> oui
[12:44] <valentin> c nul
[12:44] <gardebienk> ouais
[12:44] <valentin> de quoi ?
[12:44] <gardebienk> c nul
[12:44] <Michiellll> Sidewinder1 we'll find out soon enough :p
[12:44] <gardebienk> c nul
[12:44] <valentin> oui mai quoi
[12:45] <gardebienk> je ais pas cest toi qui me la dit
[12:45] <scarleo>  I'm trying to register an account over at brainstorm.ubuntu.com but it won't send me an email. Also tried password reminder but it wont send anything either. #ubuntu-brainstorm seems pretty dead
[12:45] <dr_willis> orated:  cant say ive ever needed to remotely force a remote box to the console..
[12:45] <BlueEagle> !fr | valentin
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> Michiellll, Good Luck!
[12:45] <valentin> oui mai di pa oui si tu c pa
[12:45] <BlueEagle> !fr | gardebienk
[12:46] <valentin> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:46] <BlueEagle> You missed the /
[12:46] <GirlyGirl> valentin: C'est "/ join " et non pas join
[12:46] <orated> dr_willis: What if I do that on server system itself. One terminal window is open connected to ssh controlling/monitoring it. One more terminal tab opened to control it but with different purpose?
[12:46] <BlueEagle> /join not / join
[12:47] <dr_willis> orated:  i dont get what you are trying to do.
[12:47] <orated> dr_willis: I'll try that
[12:48] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it
[12:50] <GirlyGirl> Any ideas?
[12:50] <deej1976> harsh343:P umount /dev/sda# ( #corresponds to partition number )
[12:51] <Besogon> Does someone know how-to capture DV video (FireWire)????
[12:51] <deej1976> !info dvgrab
[12:52] <Besogon> pale3: I mean something that has more friendly interface... not command line
[12:53] <scriptwarlock> Besogon, try kino
[12:53] <dr_willis> i find the command line friendly...
[12:53] <dr_willis> :)
[12:53] <Anomie21> Hi, I'm using Empathy messenger? Why did Ubuntu move away from Pidgin? I feel like I've went back 10 years as this program is seriously lacking features...
[12:53] <dr_willis> !info pidgin
[12:54] <dr_willis> install pidgin if you want.
[12:54] <scriptwarlock> dr_willis, not all fingers has the power to type :)
[12:54] <dr_willis> use your toes! :0
[12:54] <Anomie21> dr_willis: Will it still interact with the 'chat' icon on my taskbar?
[12:54] <scriptwarlock> hahha lol
[12:54] <Besogon> scriptwarlock: OH!!! dvgrab and Kino use raw1394 module!! I haven't one!!! How to get it?
[12:54] <deej1976> Anomie21: !info pigdin
[12:54] <cipherboy> Anomie21: it provides its own pidgin
[12:55] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it
[12:55] <cipherboy> *whoops, sorry, it provides its own pidgin icon
[12:55] <Anomie21> Ah
[12:55] <Besogon> scriptwarlock: I'd use KINO for sure but it not works due to the reason I told
[12:55] <Anomie21> Anyone know why they 'downgraded' to Empathy?
[12:55] <scriptwarlock> Besogon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[12:56] <deej1976> Anomie21: Empathy has MSN video chat I believe
[12:56] <flexd> Uh, as root the norwegian characters æøå work, as a normal user they do not. In irssi on the normal user it worked once I did set_termcharset utf-8.
[12:56] <Anomie21> deej1976: I'd imagine, that on a whole, ubuntu users are more likely to use IRC than MSN
[12:56] <flexd> locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 on both users, what am I doing wrong? :-/
[12:57] <cipherboy> Anomie21: sorry, I misread your qustion Ubuntu has used Empathy for a while now (~3 releases if I am correct). Just uninstall it and install pidgin.
[12:57] <Besogon> scriptwarlock: I've read it up... Still I miss the modules. They simply don't exist in ubuntu :(
[12:57] <cipherboy> Not hard to fix.
[12:57] <Besogon> without them I can't capture DV video
[12:57] <deej1976> Anomie21: Pidgin can do IRC as while
[12:57] <deej1976> ~well
[12:57] <Anomie21> deej1976: It can connect to IRC but it's that lacking in features that it isn't really usable
[12:58] <cipherboy> Anomie21: so run sudo apt-get remove empathy && sudo apt-get install pidgin and everything is bright and sunny.
[12:59] <scriptwarlock> Besogon, never used firewire before coz my cam has hard drive inside.
[12:59] <Anomie21> cipherboy: I am, just thought it was a weird move by Ubuntu
[12:59] <deej1976> Anomie21: I'm a pidgin, iirsi user
[12:59] <deej1976> Anomie21: didn't like empathy
[13:00] <cipherboy> Anomie21: And what do you think of unity? And ditto, I use pidgin. webchat.freenode.net for IRC.
[13:00] <Anomie21> cipherboy: unit?
[13:00] <Anomie21> *unity?
[13:00] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it
[13:01] <JusticeZero> Heya..
[13:02] <cipherboy> Anomie21: What release are you on?
[13:02] <Anomie21> cipherboy: 2sec, hurting my head trying to read in this, installed xchat
[13:02] <Anomie22> cipherboy, I'm on 11.10
[13:04] <JusticeZero> I have a confession.. I love Unity's dash. *cry* But i'm not sure i'm much of a fan of Unity itself, and not just because my better laptop freezes all the time with it. I've tried tinkering with e17 (because Everything seems similar to the dash) but my efforts are backfiring in stupid ways. Is there a Dash/Everything like addon for XFCE or LX?
[13:05] <cipherboy> Anomie22: You have 11.10 and no unity? They added it for real in 11.04...
[13:06] <JusticeZero> might have upgraded to it..
[13:06] <Anomie22> cipherboy, I installed 11.04 today then used the updater to update to 11.10
[13:06] <Anomie22> what is unity?
[13:06] <iceroot> !unity | Anomie22
[13:06] <iceroot> Anomie22: the old netbook-remix interface
[13:07] <pkundu> i want to boot xubuntu 11.10 in runlevel 3 by default. how to do that.thanks for help
[13:07] <Anomie22> Oh, yeah I'm probably using that then - what does that have to do with IRC? o.O
[13:07] <JusticeZero> Unity is the desktop that they released with 11.04. It's controversial to say the least, since it's sort've unfinished and an attempt to move away from GNOME for essentially political reasons.
[13:07] <iceroot> !runlevel | pkundu
[13:07] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have a problem with sound on an Intel HDA card. Playback works fine , however my mic does not work at all for some reason. pavucontrol finds the twin mic system but cannot record any input from it
[13:07] <bosman> !notunity
[13:08] <pkundu> !Upstart
[13:08] <deej1976> !info raw1394-dev | Besogon:
[13:08] <cipherboy> Anomie22: It doesn't, but since you didn't like the switch from pidgin to empathy, I thought you would have been using Ubuntu for long enough to know the differences between the UIs.
[13:09] <Anomie22> cipherboy, I used Ubuntu a few years. I noticed the change in UI when I came back, just didn't know what it was called.
[13:09] <deej1976> !info libraw1394-11 | Besogon:
[13:09] <Anomie22> *a few years ago
[13:09]  * JusticeZero doesn't know sound, alas.
[13:10] <Anomie22> I like unity though, it's A LOT more user-friendly when I last used Ubuntu (used it from when I was 15-19)
[13:10] <cipherboy> BTW, any way to hide these join/part messages in the webchat?
[13:11] <Sanus> Hooooooly crap.  Distro upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and metacity randomly dies right in the midst of it all.
[13:11] <harsh343> deej1976, there ?
[13:11] <deej1976> harsh343: yes
[13:11] <ragnarok> Hey. I go at system > additional drivers and i see 2 options for my gpu: 1) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver 2) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates).
[13:11] <ragnarok> what to get?
[13:12] <cipherboy> Sorry guys, have to drop. Virtualbox demands too many (scarce) resources.
[13:12] <Sanus> Hoooooly crap you guys
[13:12] <deej1976> ragnarok: Chicken and Chips, always nice ?
[13:12] <Sanus> Doing a distro upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10.  Is metacity supposed to die in the middle of it?
[13:12] <ragnarok> deej1976: on our subject please now
[13:13] <harsh343> deej1976, I am using ssh @ip and after using password i am in live: now after using cd i am here live:/var/www# now i want to copy my single folder and paste the same place with different name what i can do
[13:13] <Anomie22> Sanus, didnt for me
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> what is the shorcut for show desktop in UBuntu 11.10?
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> i am doing super+d , but is not working?
[13:13] <Sanus> Cause it did.  And it's not looking pretty.  I've had several failed updates in the last half hour because of power drops, so now I'm wondering if this partition is ded, or even worse -- if the hard drive is ded.
[13:14] <harsh343> I have  folder name dashboard_devtest and i want to copy this folder in the same place with name dashboard_uat
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:14] <deej1976> ragnarok: Sorry missed your question, holding head in shame
[13:15] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Hi
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi kamilnadeem
[13:16] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: whats the shortcut for show desktop in Ubuntu 11.10?
[13:16] <harsh343> deej1976, see this link http://pastebin.com/Gxp8s6bY
[13:16] <deej1976> harsh343: Try sudo cp -r dashboard_devtest dashboard_uat
[13:17] <deej1976> harsh343: This will put a copy of dashboard_devtest in dashboard_uat
[13:17] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, dunno I'm on KDE
[13:17] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: No prob
[13:18] <harsh343> deej1976, not copyied
[13:19] <harsh343> deej1976, dashboard_uat contains empty files
[13:19] <cipherboy> Anyone running w8 in a vbox? I am trying to install but I get the error "VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration is not available on your system. Certain guests (e.g. OS/2 and QNX) require this feature and will fail to boot without it." on startup.
[13:19] <cipherboy> never mind, it was just a slow boot. :/
[13:21] <deej1976> harsh343: what does dashboard_devtest contain ?
[13:22] <harsh343> deej1976, so many files in this folder and i want to copy all those files
[13:22] <harsh343> also
[13:22] <harsh343> dashboard_uas
[13:22] <harsh343> dashboard_uat*
[13:22] <JusticeZero> If I wanted to run e17 off one of the *buntus, is there one that would be better suited for it?
[13:23] <bazhang> JusticeZero, not really no, get their repos to install
[13:23] <deej1976> harsh343: sudo cp -r dashboard_devtest dashboard_devtest1 ?
[13:23] <netadmin1> ns id bjdu54Fsd3
[13:24] <bazhang> netadmin1, better to id to services in a different window
[13:24] <bhavesh> Whenever I connect my earphones I get sound from speakers as well as earphones simultaneously. How can I fix that?
[13:24] <bhavesh> it works perfect in windows 7.
[13:25] <JusticeZero> Id tried it before but seemed to be missing things.
[13:29] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have a problem with my microphone. It does not work at all. However if I remove pulseaudio it does. Is there any way to get it working with pulse audio?
[13:30] <GirlyGirl> Please help
[13:30] <x3qt0r> ola buntus
[13:30] <cipherboy_loc> GirlyGirl: Have you tried opening the sound properties and selecting the inbut device?
[13:31] <x3qt0r> can i install ubuntu on my sd card without disturbing the mbr of hard drive?
[13:31] <x3qt0r> the system already has a hdd'
[13:31] <harsh343> deej1976, i want to delete my folder dashboard_uatprevious see this http://pastebin.com/C81LE38g
[13:32] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: I use Kubuntu .. what "input" do you want me to select?
[13:32] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: pavucontrol shows no activity for both mics
[13:33] <cipherboy_loc> GirlyGirl: sorry, not familier with kde/kubuntu, I use gnome2.
[13:33] <GirlyGirl> x3qt0r: When you install don't select boot loader to install on /dev/sda
[13:33] <murlidhar1> i am getting kernel panic in my desktop. anyone help me :|
[13:34] <GirlyGirl> x3qt0r: Install it to whatever device the sd card is and then boot the sd card
[13:34] <x3qt0r> nothing else/
[13:34] <x3qt0r> ?
[13:34] <x3qt0r> just this/
[13:34] <x3qt0r> ?
[13:34] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: All the same the settings available are same in sound properties what would you sugest to do if this were gnome 2?
[13:34] <cipherboy_loc> Yes.
[13:35] <cipherboy_loc> GirlyGirl: in my gnome2 sound settings there is a tab called input. In there there is a place to select device, are you sure that your mic is selected?
[13:36] <cipherboy_loc> GirlyGirl: What type of mic are you using? I have a snowball mic which works perfectly. Plug it in, change the input source, go.
[13:36] <harsh343> deej1976, there ?
[13:37] <cipherboy_loc> Whoops.
[13:37] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: Yes it is selected
[13:38] <cipherboy_loc> And you have tried recording audio and gotten nothing? Interesting. What type of mic (usb, etc)?
[13:39] <Tindo> can anyone tell me how i can stop ubuntu from changing wallpaper by itself?
[13:39] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: There are two mics . both embedded on the laptop
[13:41] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: pavucontrol detects no sound input from either mic nor the skype or anything else ... unless I uninstall pulseaudio ... I think it used to work before on 11.10 and I am 100% sure it worked in earlier releases
[13:41] <Tindo> i guess that would be a no
[13:41] <cipherboy_loc> Tindo: what is your issue?
[13:42] <cipherboy_loc> Tindo: Sorry, clarification, what is it changing to?
[13:42] <GirlyGirl> cipherboy_loc: pavucontrol detects no sound input from either mic nor the skype or anything else ... unless I uninstall pulseaudio ... I think it used to work before on 11.10 and I am 100% sure it worked in earlier releases
[13:42] <cipherboy_loc> GirlyGirl: sorry, can't help you, not familiar with mics. Might you need drivers?
[13:42] <cipherboy_loc> (built in mics that is. I have a desktop)
[13:43] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, sounds like you need to setup pulseaudio to handle a plugin
[13:44] <GirlyGirl> yagoo: It can't be a driver issue as it works with pulse uninstalled
[13:44] <cipherboy_loc> Have to drop, sorry.
[13:45] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, try looking into what i told ya
[13:46] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, pulseaudio can be used as a "proxy" driver for other audio layers..
[13:46] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, if you don't like pulseaudio... you should also setup ~/.asoundrc accordingly..
[13:46] <yagoo> (check how to make a default ~/.asoundrc online)
[13:47] <GirlyGirl> yagoo: Don't you think that the mic nopt working is because of a simple config problem
[13:48] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, you should be able to test your mic with alsa utils..
[13:49] <kblin> hi folks, I've just installed a natty backport kernel for my lucid system hoping to fix a wireless driver issue
[13:49] <kblin> now my dkms module for the graphics card refuses to build
[13:49] <kblin> any goo dway to fix that?
[13:50] <GirlyGirl> yagoo: The mic works with alsa and without pulseaudio
[13:50] <GirlyGirl> yagoo: Its only that once pulseaudio is installed it stops
[13:51] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, i'm too lazy.. i just got the first result on this.. http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2008/05/23/skype-microphone-problem-and-complete-pulse-audio-setup-in-ubuntu/
[13:51] <yagoo> :)
[13:51] <yagoo> what i've been telling ya..
[13:51] <yagoo> pulseaudio plugins and ~/.asoundrc
[13:52] <Naked89> hi
[13:52] <yagoo> dunno if ~/.asoundrc still applies to oneiric however.. don't see why it shouldn't..
[13:53] <Naked89> Is linuxmint12 released?
[13:53] <yagoo> GirlyGirl, can't say those are the exact steps on that webpage.. but i hope that should give the general idea..
[13:54] <automagic> Hi. I have a question regarding the definitions of the term "hostname" and the (maybe less precisely defined) term "computer name". Given a computer named xyz and bound to a domain name xyz.abc.com is it correct to say that the _hostname_ of the computer is xyz.abc.com and the _computer_name_ is xyz ?
[13:54] <yagoo> automagic, hostname is fine.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> yagoo, ~/.asoundrc does , i use it for my pci m-audio soundcard
[13:54] <badosu> hello, im having a little trouble trying to raise the number of sockets, can somebody help me?
[13:54] <capcook> hello emmabottolo
[13:55] <badosu> i set the ulimit through /etc/security/limits.conf but it still stops at 1024
[13:55] <automagic> The term hostname seems to be used for both xyz and xyz.abc.com, and I have to have terms for xyz and xyz.abc.com, which wouldn't be interchangable.
[13:56] <yagoo> automagic, fqdn hostname vs hostname
[13:56] <yagoo> pfff :)
[13:56] <automagic> yagoo: I guess that will have to do. Thanks.
[13:58] <dbolser_> hello
[13:58] <fragy> Hi. I have 64-bit linux. How can I install 32-bit SDL libraries?
[13:59] <dbolser_> I'm mounting a samba share like this "nautilus --no-desktop smb://..."
[14:00] <dbolser_> where is that actually mounted?
[14:00] <dbolser_> i.e. so I can see teh files with a terminal
[14:00] <yagoo> dbolser_, look into dbus stuff
[14:00] <jussi> dbolser_: I am by no means sure, but Id hazard a wild guess to /media/
[14:00] <yagoo> dbolser_, and stuff related to gvfs
[14:00] <dbolser_> jussi: checked the usual places
[14:00] <dbolser_> including df
[14:01] <yagoo> pfff
[14:01] <dbolser_> yagoo: what is that going to tell me?
[14:01] <jussi> dbolser_: heh, strange.
[14:01] <yagoo> dbolser_, that will tell you where to look.. use "apropos dbus"
[14:01] <BluesKaj> dbolser_, ssh perhaps
[14:01] <kblin> dbolser_: gnome mounts locally
[14:01] <dbolser_> i.e. can I or can't I see it from the cli when mounted through nautilus?
[14:01] <dbolser_> ty yagoo
[14:01] <geirha> dbolser_: ~/.gvfs/
[14:01] <kblin> dbolser_: per user
[14:01] <kblin> dbolser_: what geirha said
[14:01] <dbolser_> BluesKaj: I want to run emacs locally, so I don't want to ssh
[14:02] <dbolser_> ty geirha
[14:02] <BluesKaj> dbolser_, ok
[14:02] <dbolser_> woop
[14:02] <dbolser_> is the bug in gnome-terminal fixed to let me use ctrl-f/b to move around?
[14:02] <dbolser_> currently it calls up the menu, which I don't want
[14:03] <dbolser_> (even when I 'untick' show menubar
[14:06] <qmr_> anyone here had success with steam / steam games?
[14:07] <qmr_> I have the steam client installed... dunno if the games I want to play will work or not though..
[14:07] <dbolser_> thanks all
[14:07] <jrib> dbolser_: try and see?  Or check the bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com?  Have you tried disabling menu accelerators?  What about checking for keyboard shortcuts inside gnome-terminal itself?  Why not just use a different terminal emulator like urxvt for example?
[14:09] <Anomie211> Can anyone tell me why this is happening? :  http://i.imgur.com/9FdRA.png
[14:11] <auronandace> Anomie211: looks like you are trying to highlight something
[14:11] <Anomie211> auronandace: Yeah but it just pops up randomly sometimes and won't go away
[14:12] <GirlyGirl> yagoo: Seems to be a funny bug .. if I disable the right mic completely, the left works
[14:13] <mikubuntu> i don't know how to install the software for this worldwide community project, i wonder if some of the ops could look at it and see if someone would like to do a community page about it http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
[14:14] <gomo> Hey
[14:14] <gomo> I'm using UFW
[14:14] <gomo> And it's blocking packets it shouldn't
[14:14] <gomo> I'm seeing [UFW BLOCKED] logs that match exactly the "allow" rule
[14:15] <gomo> Is there any common reason this might happen?
[14:15] <sKeiths> my machine wont boot. after grub, i get [  0.666460] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[14:15] <auronandace> Anomie211: using a touchpad?
[14:17] <Anomie211> auronandace: nope
[14:17] <carlos> ?
[14:18] <Guest68306> ?
[14:18] <sKeiths> i have no idea what to do next, any help
[14:18] <auronandace> Anomie211: just a regular mouse?
[14:18] <Anomie211> auronandace: yep
[14:18] <auronandace> Anomie211: odd
[14:18] <Anomie211> auronandace: I use the alt/ctrl+tab short cuts a lot though and that seems to trigger it
[14:19] <azery> hello there
[14:19] <azery> is it possible to select word from terminal w/o using the mouse ?
[14:20] <DemonWitch> hey
[14:20] <UrbanShaman> azery: what are you trying to accomplish?
[14:20] <DemonWitch> is it a good idea to use 64bit square flash on ubuntu rather than the default package?
[14:20] <azery> just need to select
[14:20] <azery> for ls -l
[14:21] <azery> for example i just like to select ls -l
[14:21] <DemonWitch> someone tell me
[14:21] <subb1> hello everyone. i had an error on mounting ntfs partition on ubuntu.. after reading the error a tech here advised me to run check disk from windows first.
[14:21] <szal> DemonWitch: Square is outdated, Flash 11 has a native 64bit version
[14:21] <azery> to copy then paste without using the mouse
[14:21] <azery> possible ?
[14:21] <DemonWitch> szal: is this the default flash in 64bit 10.10 ubuntu?
[14:21] <UrbanShaman> avery: you could use tab to autocomplete..
[14:21] <subb1> But when I connected the external HDD on windows, the partition is not coming up on my computer
[14:21] <DemonWitch> szal: i installed a flash from package manager
[14:22] <subb1> how do i run a check disk then?
[14:22] <azery> YOU DONT GET MY QUESTION
[14:22] <azery> how to select ls -l
[14:22] <szal> !caps | azery
[14:22] <azery> for example t
[14:22] <sKeiths> i think do-release-upgrade may have created a new kernel thats not booting. how do i boot my old kernel?
[14:22] <azery> how to select ls -l for example without using the mouse from terminal
[14:23] <azery> how to do ?
[14:23] <azery> that's all nothing related with tab for autocomplete
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| azery
[14:23] <xangua> sKeiths: press Shift when you turn on your pc to show Grub menu
[14:23] <azery> it 's question of selection not autocompleting
[14:23] <azery> autocompletion
[14:23] <DemonWitch> RAGE MOAR szal YOU SON OF A BITCH
[14:24] <Khas> I'm trying to create a bridge interface to use layer 2 openvpn, but I'm having trouble creating it.  I've got eth0, and I've defined br0, and br0 ifups, but when it does the SSH connection (in fact every connection to the server) drops.
[14:24] <Khas> Can anyone help?
[14:24] <azery> do you get ?
[14:24] <UrbanShaman> azery: What do you need the selection to do? I do not know a way to do copy/paste stuff in terminal with keyboard, but that is mainly as I have not ever needed to.
[14:25] <enigma456> hello .  have problem ...   >>       su
[14:25] <enigma456> Password:
[14:25] <enigma456> Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[14:25] <llutz> enigma456: use sudo
[14:25] <enigma456> dosn't work
[14:26] <enigma456> i try to fix that  5 h
[14:26] <Robson9776> hello, can I post a question here? am I interrupting?
[14:26] <UrbanShaman> azery: so my question is: what do you want to do with the selection?
[14:26] <szal> !ask | Robson9776
[14:26] <enigma456> sudo -s     but this one is diferent  root
[14:26] <UrbanShaman> Robson9776: Just go ahead and ask
[14:27] <Robson9776> thanks. I found a strange symbol when I use 'ls - a' to see what's in my directory
[14:27] <enigma456>  su
[14:27] <enigma456> Password:
[14:27] <enigma456> Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[14:27] <enigma456> is like
[14:27] <FloodBot1> enigma456: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <enigma456> cant
[14:27] <Robson9776> there's a file named #gamm01
[14:27] <enigma456> execute exit
[14:27] <Sidewinder1> !enter | enigma456
[14:27] <Robson9776> what kind of file started with hash (#) ?
[14:28] <Myrtti> enigma456: su is not supposed to work anyway
[14:28] <Myrtti> enigma456: use sudo
[14:29] <sKeiths> my root is at /dev/mapper/here-root on type ext3. in recovery mode it says cannot open "mapper/here-root"
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> su means switch user, not super user
[14:29] <zykotick9> Robson9776, i don't think there is any "standard", or general rule, for files starting with a #
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> Myrtti, Just out of curiousity, doesn't sudo stand for Super-User Do?
[14:30] <Robson9776> zykotick9 : well, here's what I have : ls -a gammu-smsd/ .          ..       gammu01  gammu03  gammu05  gammu07  gammu09  gammu11  gammu13  gammu15  gammu17  gammu19  gammu21  gammu23  on .#gammu01  gammu00  gammu02  gammu04  gammu06  gammu08  gammu10  gammu12  gammu14  gammu16  gammu18  gammu20  gammu22  gammu24
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin | Robson9776
[14:31] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1, from "man sudo" the only mention of super is: sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser or another user
[14:31] <Myrtti> Sidewinder1: possibly. it can be used to be another user as well.
[14:31] <Tindo> anyone know anything about conky?
[14:31] <Robson9776> ubottu : thanks. will do...
[14:31] <bazhang> Tindo, whats the real question
[14:31] <VictorCL> I installed this application called rabbitvcs .. and now  Icant find it !!
[14:32] <VictorCL> how can I check whre is it?
[14:32] <Tindo> the real question is i have it up and running but i dont know how to edit the scripts to customize it
[14:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 Tindo this may help
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> VictorCL  try locate rabbitvcs
[14:32] <moriz> victor: which rabbitvcs
[14:32] <zykotick9> Robson9776, the # file actually starts with a . meaning it's a hidden file - no idea what gammu-smsd is.
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> Myrtti, zykotick9, Thanks; I guess that the "other" user, in that case is root..
[14:32] <Tindo> thanks
[14:32] <harsh343> Hello all what does this command do sudo chown -R volition:volition /var/www ??????????????????
[14:32] <VictorCL> http://wiki.rabbitvcs.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> gammu is a mobile phone app
[14:33] <llutz> harsh343: "man chown" tells you what this does
[14:33] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1, "other" is the quote i have you means any user other the system, "other" then root (super user)
[14:33] <DeadKings> Anyone feel like hand holding a complete nOOb through a package install. I need to install crafty 23.4 to a specific Dir and am clueless
[14:33] <theadmin> harsh343: Sets the owner and the group of /var/www to "volition".
[14:33] <VictorCL> locate rabbitvcs return nothing
[14:33] <zykotick9> Sidewinder1, sudo is "switch user do"
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> Thanx.
[14:33] <Khas> !patience
[14:33] <harsh343> theadmin, ok and if i am using this then sudo chown -R root:root /var/www
[14:33] <sKeiths> i have read somewhere that if i add " rootdelay=10 " it might work. can anyone suggest how i add this
[14:33] <Robson9776> zykotick9 : it's my file. just confuse with the # sign. shouldn't be started with dot (.) if it's a hidden file?
[14:34] <theadmin> harsh343: I suppose, that'd set it to root
[14:34] <zykotick9> Robson9776, yes a . means a hidden file - but the # doesn't really mean anything
[14:34] <himanshu> HLO
[14:34] <harsh343> theadmin, ok and i am using this in ssh@ip then ?
[14:34] <harsh343> if*
[14:34] <moriz> victor, have you tried: which rabbitvcs
[14:34] <theadmin> harsh343: Why would you care about whether it's a local or remote machine? Same effect either way...
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> Robson9776  use less to see what's in the file
[14:35] <Robson9776> zykotcik9 : ok, I will delete it. thanks for your info
[14:35] <harsh343> theadmin, ok
[14:35] <VictorCL> /usr/bin/rabbitvcs
[14:35] <moriz> so thats where it is
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[14:35] <Robson9776> MonkeyDust : I have 'mc' here ;-)
[14:35] <zykotick9> !tab > Robson9776
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> mc is midnight commander, what about it?
[14:36] <enigma456> still can't login  with su  to be root
[14:36] <zykotick9> enigma456, don't
[14:36] <theadmin> enigma456: Not possible on Ubuntu, use "sudo -i"
[14:36] <szal> enigma456: you're not listening..  don't use 'su', use 'sudo'
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> enigma456  don't try to be root if you don't know what you"re doing
[14:36] <Myrtti> enigma456: use sudo
[14:37] <Robson9776> MonkeyDust: I prefer to use it. instead of 'less'
[14:37] <enigma456> ok wait :)
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> Robson9776  F3 to read the file
[14:37] <Robson9776> MonkeyDust: sure.
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> !root > enigma456
[14:38] <enigma456> when i type sudo -i   i got                sudo: shell: command not found
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> enigma456  don't try to be root if you don't know what you"re doing
[14:38] <enigma456> i'm learning adminoistration so i nead that
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> which is obviously the case
[14:39]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[14:39] <enigma456> monkey dust jus give me answer or maybe you dinn't know
[14:39] <enigma456> ?:)
[14:40] <theadmin> enigma456: You were given the answer, you're not doing it right though
[14:40] <tyrael2210> hello everyone
[14:40] <DeadKings> Anyone feel like hand holding a complete nOOb through a package install. I need to install crafty 23.4 in a specific and am clueless
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> enigma456  i do not advice root questions to newbies
[14:40] <DeadKings> folder
[14:40] <enigma456> :)
[14:40]  * Sidewinder1 Is now waiting for some 'wise-acre', to chime in with the ar em, stuff..
[14:40] <harsh343> theadmin, there ?
[14:41] <theadmin> harsh343: Yes?
[14:41] <Robson9776> is there someone who ever done dealing with 'gammu' that I can start 'private message' with? thanks.
[14:41] <tyrael2210> i have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 and ati driver, after installing and reboot the monitor is black with the vritten "resolution not supported"
[14:41] <xangua> !pm | Robson9776
[14:41] <enigma456> sudo: shell: command not found
[14:41] <enigma456>            o got just that when i type what you tell me
[14:42] <xangua> enigma456: because there is no shell comand¿
[14:42] <tyrael2210> any suggestions?
[14:42] <xangua> .........
[14:43] <auronandace> enigma456: what are you trying to do, you seem confused
[14:43] <enigma456> and how to fix
[14:43] <enigma456> because u know the coomand sudo -i is
[14:43] <zykotick9> xangua, i interpret that error to mean that something is wrong (already) with the OP's /etc/shells or perhaps they've removed bash?
[14:45] <enigma456> i spend a lot of time to fix that ,, read forums everything but nothing is look like nead to fix something somethere
[14:45] <Anomie211> Whats everyones fav FTP client?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> gftp
[14:45] <zykotick9> !polls > Anomie211
[14:46] <harsh343> theadmin, can You please explain this http://pastebin.com/JJPFhpVQ
[14:46] <btechie> filezilla is nice ftp client if you dual boot
[14:46] <Anomie211> Ah there's a ubuntu version of filezilla? sweet
[14:46] <theadmin> harsh343: err... So what do you want me to explain?
[14:47] <harsh343> theadmin,-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data root      168 Oct  7 12:11 phpinfo.php
[14:47] <harsh343>  single line means
[14:47] <theadmin> harsh343: ...still don't understand what's not clear here
[14:47] <llutz> harsh343: http://www.columbia.edu/acis/webdev/chmod.html
[14:48] <harsh343> theadmin, www have permissions ???? for
[14:48] <theadmin> harsh343: www-data is the owner of this file.
[14:49] <harsh343> and what is the effect of this command here sudo chown -R root:root /var/www
[14:49] <harsh343> theadmin,
[14:49] <theadmin> harsh343: Told you before... It changes the owner and group to root
[14:49] <sdsdsd> :)
[14:49] <sdsdsd> :$
[14:50] <harsh343> theadmin, when i apply this command thenafter owner is root only
[14:50] <harsh343> not the data
[14:50] <theadmin> harsh343: Probably you have no rights to run this command, or /var/www is on a weird partition.
[14:51] <harsh343> theadmin, why i am not able to run this command
[14:51] <sKeiths> okay, so my problem is booting a partition inside an lvm after upgrading from hardy lts to lucid lts.
[14:51] <theadmin> harsh343: I just explained.
[14:52] <harsh343> theadmin, but i am able to run this command
[14:52] <harsh343> thenafter owner is who root or root data
[14:52] <harsh343> ?
[14:52] <theadmin> Ugh...
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> lol
[14:52] <faminegod> how do I remove a dpkg that I manually installed?
[14:52] <llutz> !permissions | harsh343 you should start to read a little bit
[14:53] <llutz> faminegod: sudo dpkg -r package
[14:53] <the_dude_> ping
[14:53] <DeadKings> okay easy 1 were do apps install to and how can i get to the folder?
[14:53] <the_dude_> i want to write kernel
[14:53] <harsh343> theadmin, ok
[14:53] <theadmin> !ping | the_dude_
[14:53]  * ede Ping | Could not be resolved to an IP address
[14:53] <harsh343> theadmin, thanks
[14:54] <the_dude_> ping
[14:54] <theadmin> !packages | DeadKings
[14:54] <sodelate> ping
[14:54] <sodelate> quit
[14:54] <theadmin> DeadKings: Linux does not *have* anything like "Program Files", the programs spread stuff all over the drive
[14:54] <DeadKings> I need to install to a specific folder though,
[14:54] <theadmin> DeadKings: That's most normally impossible.
[14:55] <e01> is it possible to run unity without unity launcher?
[14:55] <theadmin> DeadKings: Unless you're compiling from source
[14:55] <theadmin> e01: Huh? What's the point of that?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> DeadKings  programs are found in /usr/bin/
[14:55] <e01> launcher is unusable for me, but i like the panel of the top, in ubuntu classic, the top panel is ugly
[14:56] <DeadKings> how to get to /usr/bin/  from terminal, this confuses me as I can't get past the home dir
[14:56] <void_> cd /usr/bin
[14:56] <DeadKings> thanks I'll try
[14:57] <auronandace> DeadKings: maybe you should tell us what you are trying to install
[14:57] <DeadKings> crafty 23.4 chess engine
[14:57] <linda_> DeadKings,  Have you tried the package manager?
[14:57] <DeadKings> I need it in a specific folder so a server can access it analyze
[14:58] <bazhang> DeadKings, its in repos install from there
[14:58] <auronandace> !info crafty | DeadKings
[14:58] <nebajoth> ctrl+alt+t keyboard shortcut not functional in gnome3
[14:58] <DeadKings> I actuall installed from the built in get app but it dissappered, i could not even find it to run
[14:58] <auronandace> DeadKings: sudo apt-get install crafty
[14:58] <DeadKings> yes thats the 1 i installed via the built in get app
[14:58] <bazhang> DeadKings, by built in get app you mean apt-get ?
[14:59] <linda_> DeadKings, What do you mean, it dissappeared?
[14:59] <DeadKings> . naw the GUI thingy
[14:59] <BluesKaj> DeadKings, look in /home/yourusername/Downloads
[14:59] <theadmin> DeadKings: The configs (and therefore games and such) will be stored separately somewhere under your user's folder
[14:59] <enigma456> is here  smart man?
[14:59] <enigma456> nead a simple help
[14:59] <faminegod> is there a way to add keyboard shortcuts to load programs in unity?
[14:59] <bazhang> enigma456, just ask
[14:59] <theadmin> faminegod: Search for the "Keyboard Shortcuts" app
[14:59] <theadmin> faminegod: Use that.
[15:00] <Khas> Where's the best place to get help about configuring ubuntu server networking?
[15:00] <Khas> Is there a #ubuntu-server?
[15:00] <enigma456> so agen .....   su dosinn't work and  sudo  dosn't work  to try use superuser
[15:00] <bazhang> Khas, here or #ubuntu-server
[15:00] <enigma456> i sped f...  2 d to try fix that
[15:00] <Khas> Thanks bazhang
[15:00] <bazhang> !work | enigma456
[15:00] <DeadKings> If i do sudo apt-get install crafty will it install it to the folder were i issued the command
[15:00] <auronandace> enigma456: have you been editing /etc/sudoers?
[15:00] <faminegod> theadmin, i can only have find xfce-keyboard shortcuts...will that do?
[15:00] <bazhang> enigma456, no cursing here at all
[15:01] <bazhang> DeadKings, no
[15:01] <DeadKings> @linda I install teh package and I could not find it anyware  search just returned 'installed' and it does not show up it he desktop menu
[15:01] <zykotick9> DeadKings, the folder you run apt-get from, makes no difference.  The package itself dictates where it will install to
[15:01] <dfgas> how do i disable compiz?
[15:01] <enigma456> think no
[15:01] <bazhang> DeadKings, try alt f2 crafty
[15:01] <DeadKings> dang this linux confuses me
[15:01] <zykotick9> dfgas, if you are using Unity (3d) you don't
[15:02] <linda_> DeadKings, Why?
[15:02] <DeadKings> all i need is the bianary
[15:02] <theadmin> DeadKings: The binary will be /usr/bin/crafty
[15:02] <linda_> DeadKings, You probably already have it.
[15:02] <dfgas> zykotick9, gnome
[15:02] <DeadKings> Well I new to it and ther is no app menu or anything
[15:02] <thisissparta> The cursor doesn't change when I switch it in Natty Narwhal.
[15:02] <bazhang> DeadKings, then get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[15:02] <nebajoth> DeadKings: dpkg -L crafty
[15:02] <bazhang> DeadKings, try alt f2 and appname to run it
[15:02] <nebajoth> it will list all files installed by the package
[15:03] <zykotick9> dfgas, "metacity --replace" might work
[15:03] <nebajoth> and where they were put
[15:03] <DeadKings> Ok i uninstall it let me reinstall brb
[15:03] <zykotick9> dfgas, that's only temporary
[15:03] <linda_> DeadKings, bazhang has made a suggestion.  Did you try it?
[15:03] <nebajoth> enigma456: what is the error message you get when trying to run as superuser?
[15:04] <DeadKings> rub  dpkg -L crafty?
[15:04] <theadmin> zykotick9: "The package itself dictates where it will install to" << actually, that's false. All packages install to / whatsoever, it's just their contents differ.
[15:04] <linda_> DeadKings, But did you look in the start menu for it?
[15:04] <DeadKings> 'run'
[15:04] <bazhang> DeadKings, alt f2 crafty
[15:04] <enigma456> su: Authentication failure
[15:04] <DeadKings> there is no start menu just a bunch of icons
[15:04] <bazhang> enigma456, use sudo
[15:04] <nebajoth> enigma456: sudo su
[15:04] <linda_> DeadKings, Probably called xboard?
[15:04] <enigma456> ok
[15:04] <theadmin> DeadKings: Enter it in the search and find it
[15:04] <nebajoth> and use your login password, not what you set for the superuser
[15:04] <linda_> DeadKings, Click on the thing with the + on it.
[15:04] <zykotick9> nebajoth, don't give that incorrect information
[15:05] <nebajoth> its not incorrect
[15:05] <nebajoth> it works fine
[15:05] <bazhang> nebajoth, please dont advice that here. sudo -i for root shell
[15:05] <linda_> DeadKings, ... which is were you find programs to start.
[15:05] <theadmin> !worksforme | nebajoth
[15:05] <enigma456> try  sudo su     i got    Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[15:05] <linda_> DeadKings, In the search box type xboard
[15:05] <zykotick9> !notroot > nebajoth
[15:06] <theadmin> zykotick9: The factoid you want is "!rootsudo"
[15:06] <theadmin> !rootsudo | nebajoth
[15:06] <DeadKings> :( I have no +     I used Ubuntu 1 other time and at the yop right of the bar across the top of screen there was a start menu  11.1 does not have that
[15:06] <zykotick9> !noroot > nebajoth
[15:06] <zykotick9> theadmin, close, but it's !noroot
[15:06] <alexandros12> Hello
[15:06] <theadmin> zykotick9: Oh, I see.
[15:06] <alexandros12> i have this problem
[15:06] <alexandros12> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/864155
[15:06] <alexandros12> Could anyone help me plesae?
[15:07] <alexandros12> please
[15:07] <nebajoth> none of these factoids have any kind of rationalization
[15:07] <linda_> DeadKings, Or you can just Alt-F2  and type xboard  and hit enter.
[15:07] <nebajoth> but fine
[15:07] <alexandros12> ??
[15:07] <omabena> hello ppl, I'm trying to share music with banshee and itunes, I installed a daap think but I get message about itunes 7 compatibility issues, I'm wondering if there's a workaround
[15:07] <alexandros12> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/864155
[15:07] <nebajoth> anyone have any idea for fixing ctrl+alt+t shortcut in gnome3/mutter?
[15:08] <omabena> thing*
[15:08] <TK5791> I'm finding Unity more than a little frustrating, should I a: stick with it. b: switch to another Linux OS c: revert back to Win Vista?
[15:08] <subb1> exit
[15:08] <alexandros12> lol vista
[15:08] <subb1> quit
[15:08] <nebajoth> TK5791: theres another option
[15:08] <theadmin> TK5791: d) Use another desktop environment, such as XFCE.
[15:08] <DeadKings> I'm gonna install via the software center, than maybe you peeps can help me grab the binary
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  i don't like it either, so i switched to a different fork
[15:08] <nebajoth> TK5791: yes, try another desktop environment on ubuntu
[15:08] <alexandros12> could anyone help me???
[15:08] <alexandros12> ?
[15:08] <nebajoth> TK5791: I personally like gnome3 quite a bit
[15:08] <TK5791> how do I switch to another desktop enviroment?
[15:08] <theadmin> TK5791: apt-get install the-name-of-the-one-you-choose
[15:08] <nebajoth> TK5791: You can install Xubuntu if you don't mind installing from scratch
[15:08] <Touns> TK5791: load the old classical manager
[15:09] <alexandros12> ?
[15:09] <theadmin> TK5791: Try: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[15:09] <nebajoth> TK5791: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <nebajoth> TK5791: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <TK5791> theadmin: thamlks
[15:09] <nebajoth> (for LXDE)
[15:09] <TK5791> thanks
[15:09] <theadmin> nebajoth: Not "xubuntu-desktop", you don't want all the default apps that come with it
[15:09] <nebajoth> hmmm
[15:09] <theadmin> nebajoth: xfce4 gives you a desktop without the mess
[15:10] <nebajoth> they make good default apps too
[15:10] <theadmin> nebajoth: So does "lxde", "kde4", etc, the -desktop packages are... well, weird.
[15:10] <nebajoth> well, fair enough
[15:10] <nebajoth> just installing the xfce3 and lxde packages will probably give a cleaner ubuntu experience
[15:10] <alexandros12> anyone?
[15:10] <alexandros12> ?
[15:10] <DeadKings> darn okay I installed it and cannot find it again  alt f2  does nothing
[15:11] <alexandros12> ?
[15:11] <TK5791> I'll give XFce4 a try
[15:11] <nebajoth> DeadKings: dpkg -L crafty (at command line)
[15:11] <bazhang> alexandros12, fixing that bug? or what
[15:11] <hemangpatel> can i install ubuntu in USB ?
[15:11] <alexandros12> i need help
[15:11] <alexandros12> i can't install ubutnu
[15:11] <auronandace> !usb | hemangpatel
[15:11] <alexandros12> i get get black screen
[15:11] <TK5791> I've tried to disable the login keyring to no avail... someone must know how to rid me of this annoyance
[15:12] <hemangpatel> i need to install ubuntu inside USB..
[15:12] <bazhang> !helpme | alexandros12
[15:12] <hemangpatel> not from USB..
[15:12] <theadmin> TK5791: k, good luck
[15:12] <nebajoth> hemangpatel: totally possible
[15:12] <bazhang> hemangpatel, flash stick? external usb drive or what
[15:12] <DeadKings> 'usr/games/crafty'
[15:12] <nebajoth> hemangpatel: just pick the usb drive as the installation target during install
[15:12] <hemangpatel> flash drive
[15:12] <theadmin> DeadKings: Yeah, that's the location, except you want it to be like: /usr/games/crafty
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> alexandros12,  If it's a confirmed bug, you have two choices: Wait until "they" fix it, or fix it yourself.. :-(
[15:12] <TK5791> ok, xfc4 has installed... do I just reboot?
[15:13] <alexandros12> yeah sure....
[15:13] <bazhang> TK5791, log out
[15:13] <hemangpatel> any partition needed in pendrive ?
[15:13] <nebajoth> TK5791: that's the simple way. You can also just logout and pick the new desktop environment in the login screen.
[15:13] <TK5791> bazhang: thanks
[15:13] <theadmin> TK5791: No need for that, lol, log out, hit the little gear thingo, select "XFCE" and log back in
[15:13] <DeadKings> If i grab the binary and move it to another location will it still work?
[15:13] <theadmin> DeadKings: Of course not.
[15:13] <nebajoth> hemangpatel: have the installer partition the usb drive as usual
[15:13] <bazhang> DeadKings, why would you want to do that
[15:13] <nebajoth> DeadKings: you shouldn't need to move it
[15:13] <DeadKings> :(  I need the binary in a different folder
[15:14] <nebajoth> DeadKings: Why?
[15:14] <auronandace> DeadKings: why
[15:14] <DeadKings> So a server can access it
[15:14] <bazhang> DeadKings, why do you need it in a different folder
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> DeadKings  try making a link
[15:14] <nebajoth> DeadKings: the server can access it in /usr/bin
[15:14] <nebajoth> DeadKings: you may have to reconfigure it
[15:14] <nebajoth> DeadKings: or try a symbolic link as bazhang suggested
[15:17] <TK5791> does anyone know how to disable the login keyring?
[15:18] <theadmin> TK5791: You can't really disable it, but you can set it to have no password
[15:18] <zykotick9> TK5791, sure, disable autologin is one way.
[15:18] <TK5791> theadmin: sounds promising
[15:18] <theadmin> TK5791: Just use seahorse
[15:18] <TK5791> if I set no password, will it still appear?
[15:19] <TK5791> everytime I login?
[15:19] <TK5791> seahorse?
[15:19] <theadmin> TK5791: No, it won't appear, and yes, seahorse.
[15:19] <DeadKings> okay dir from games shows a crafty folder but cd crafty returns Not a directory
[15:19] <theadmin> TK5791: It's an app that comes preinstalled
[15:19] <theadmin> DeadKings: Then it's not a folder.
[15:20] <theadmin> DeadKings: It's a file, binary to be precise.
[15:20] <TK5791> ok... my windows key won't work in xfc4, so how do I find Seahorse?
[15:20] <DeadKings> ok  ./crafty  to exicute
[15:20] <DeadKings> correct
[15:21] <DeadKings> I would like to copy that file to /home/bots/crafty  anyone give the command please
[15:21] <TK5791> theadmin: I simply deleted it... would that be right?
[15:21] <DeadKings> been since dos 3.1 that i worked the command line :)
[15:21] <fornix> on my hp laptop, when i change brightness of the screen using the function keys, it sets. When I reset my machine, my brightness goes back to being very dim. Doesn't it persist between reboots?
[15:22] <theadmin> TK5791: Deleted what?
[15:22] <theadmin> fornix: Yeah, I found that it doesn't
[15:22] <fornix> theadmin: is it the intended behavior??
[15:22] <TK5791> theadmin: in seahorses, it has one login keyring... it wouldn't let me modify it, only delete it
[15:23] <theadmin> TK5791: I see, hm, not even change the password?
[15:23] <theadmin> fornix: I think... For me it resets to maximal on every boot, lol
[15:23] <TK5791> theadmin: not even change it... will deleting cause a problem
[15:23] <TK5791> ?
[15:23] <theadmin> TK5791: Nah, it will get recreated but you'll lose all saved passwords from gnome apps
[15:23] <famgod> is there anyway to get rid of the graphical corrution when your running a composition manager and then run a full screen game (the game has really really bad corrution (turning off compositing fixes this, but I dont want to always logout/stop what im doing if I decide to play a game (vid card is radeon mobility 5650)
[15:24] <TK5791> theadmin: it will get reactivated... so deleting it hasn't changed a thing?
[15:24] <TK5791> :(
[15:24] <theadmin> TK5791: Well... it should have
[15:24] <TK5791> ok... I'll log out and back in again
[15:25] <theadmin> famgod: Write a script that will do, basically, the following: metacity --replace && yourgame && compiz --replace, it will disable compositing while the game is running, and use that script to start your game
[15:26] <TK5791> theadmin: so far so good
[15:26] <CaptainKnots> does anyone know of a good cad program for ubuntu?
[15:27] <milamber> CaptainKnots: what kind of cad?
[15:27] <CaptainKnots> similar to autocad
[15:27] <auronandace> !info qcad | CaptainKnots
[15:27] <TK5791> now to my next problem. the IRC contact list has disappeared since I switched to xf4c
[15:27] <CaptainKnots> I'm going to map out furniture placement for when I move
[15:27] <TK5791> anyone know why?
[15:27] <admin1> ciao
[15:27] <famgod> theadmin, alright thanks, i should have thought of that :P
[15:27] <milamber> CaptainKnots: check out qcad for 2d and brlcad for solid geo
[15:27] <CaptainKnots> thanks
[15:28] <admin1> list!
[15:28] <CaptainKnots> also, any useful repos I should add to a new kubuntu 11.10 install?
[15:28] <theadmin> CaptainKnots: medibuntu probably
[15:28] <scalability-junk> hey guys is there any per connection limit with bandwidth in ubuntu by default?
[15:28] <omabena> hello ppl, I'm trying to share music with banshee and itunes, I installed a daap plugin but I get this message about itunes 7 compatibility issues, so any of you guys know if there's a workaround for sharing with itunes
[15:29] <theadmin> scalability-junk: No, Ubuntu doesn't limit anything by default.
[15:29]  * scalability-junk is confused ;) apache isn't limiting, ubuntu isn't, but why is it limited ;)
[15:29] <theadmin> scalability-junk: If you have slow internet on Ubuntu but it works "fine" on Windows, try disabling IPv6 in your connection properties.
[15:29] <solofight> people how do i clear the history which appears when i hit Alt+F2 and type some application name ?
[15:29] <e01> theadmin, expects the usability :D (rofl)
[15:29] <theadmin> e01: ?
[15:30] <scalability-junk> theadmin: no it's 1MB/s with one connection, but it goes up to 20MB/s with 20 connections
[15:30] <theadmin> scalability-junk: Oh, uh... Okay, weird.
[15:30] <exploits> ls -la
[15:30] <_ruben> could be tcp window scaling related
[15:30] <exploits> hi
[15:30] <capcook> exploits: ls -la ?!?! ahaha :)
[15:31] <fornix> scalability-junk: r u using pppoe?
[15:31] <scalability-junk> theadmin: yeah I thought it could be my network, but wget and is fine with 20MB/s on one conncetion
[15:31] <exploits> :)
[15:31] <TK5791> sorry had to log out
[15:31] <solofight> people how do i clear the history which appears when i hit Alt+F2 and type some application name ?
[15:31] <scalability-junk> fornix: not that I think i do
[15:32] <TK5791> so does anyone know what since I switched to XFc4 that my #Ubuntu contact list has disappeared?
[15:32] <fornix> scalability-junk: how do you connect to 20 connections? using 20 virtual ethernet adapters?
[15:32] <admin1> ciao
[15:32] <admin1> list grazie
[15:33] <auronandace> !list | admin1
[15:34] <scalability-junk> strange I dive a bit deeper and when I know more come back thanks for your suggestions
[15:34] <capcook> !list
[15:35] <capcook> whoa ubottu is a bot
[15:35] <theadmin> capcook: Yes, she is
[15:35] <capcook> she?
[15:35] <theadmin> !gender | capcook
[15:35] <capcook> AHAHAHAHAHA
[15:36] <capcook> lemme try
[15:36] <capcook> !gender
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack
[15:36] <capcook> wtf?
[15:36] <auronandace> !botabuse | capcook
[15:36] <capcook> !bottits
[15:37] <BluesKaj> capcook, what italian site/magazine has suggested that ubuntu is a media serve chatroom?
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Mornin'!
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Hi Sidewinder1
[15:38] <capcook> BluesKaj, i don't know.
[15:38] <capcook> i really don't read magazines
[15:40] <mathews> why my system not showing in the network?
[15:40] <capcook> i think this bot is really funny
[15:40] <wolter> where are display and screen settings stored in one's home directory or session configuration?
[15:40] <axed> lol
[15:41] <theadmin> wolter: Most probably in GNOME's settings, i.e. dconf
[15:41] <capcook> !botabuse
[15:41] <capcook> eheheh
[15:41] <Sidewinder1> capcook, You could also "open a private window/chat" with ubottu.
[15:41] <mathews> why my system not showing in the network
[15:41] <capcook> i know
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> wolter: which gpu/
[15:41] <wolter> ActionParsnip: nvidia
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mathews: wired or wireless?
[15:41] <capcook> i only wanted to share this funny thing
[15:41] <wolter> ActionParsnip: my session has the resolution messed up, but the guest session has the correct resolution
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> wolter: I believe in ~/.nvidiarc   there is a hidden nvidia file
[15:42] <mathews> ActionParsnip, wireless
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> !ot > capcook
[15:42] <VanMarco> hey guys
[15:42] <wil2> I don't suppose anyone can help me with a weird SSH rebinding issue after IP change? - http://askubuntu.com/questions/82280/how-do-i-get-ssh-to-listen-on-a-new-ip-without-restarting-the-machine
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> wolter: wolter: you can run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    and then save the setting to xorg.conf
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> mathews: ok, which wifi chip?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> hi VanMarco
[15:43] <wolter> ActionParsnip: but wouldn't that be system-wide?
[15:43] <wolter> where should the guest session "home" files be?
[15:43] <mathews> ActionParsnip, all other system running with windows showing in the list but system not
[15:43] <VanMarco> i've got a trouble
[15:43] <capcook> Sidewinder1: ok, i'll stop...
[15:43] <theadmin> wolter: They're deleted after logout, and are therefore stored somewhere under /tmp
[15:43] <VanMarco> yesterday trying to clean the obstructed fan
[15:44] <VanMarco> i may have damaged something.
[15:44] <mathews> ActionParsnip, is it normal or any issue with it?
[15:44] <VanMarco> Now the fan spin always, even if the temp is 41° F and it sends out cold air
[15:44] <VanMarco> the computer's temp
[15:44] <theadmin> VanMarco: Try ##hardware, this isn't Ubuntu-related...
[15:44] <linda_> VanMarco, YOu damaged ubuntu?
[15:44] <VanMarco> That is ubuntu related
[15:44] <VanMarco> because i need something via software to slow them down :)
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> capcook, Just some friendly advice; I know, I know, my advice is worth exactly what I charge for it. :-)
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> mathews: you just dont have the driver configured for the wifi chip
[15:45] <capcook> :)
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> mathews: which wifi chip do you use?
[15:45] <mathews> ActionParsnip, atheros
[15:45] <jasonbassett> Hello
[15:45] <Hiz> $Gunel
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> mathews: ok, which atheros?
[15:46] <johndbritton> I'm running 11.04 and trying to set my hostname. I've set it in /etc/hostname and edited /etc/hosts, but when I restart the hostname doesn't "stick" If I run the hostname command it only stays until a reboot. Any suggestions?
[15:46] <jasonbassett> My Ubunti 11.10 machine is not restarting or shutting down, simply ends with the message "System halted"
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> mathews: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network      and give the product line of the wifi
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> jasonbassett: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now      does it turn off?
[15:47] <linda_> I just encountered an interesting phenomenon.  Xchat automatically joined #debian instead of #ubuntu   Now why would it start doing that all of a sudden?
[15:47] <wolter> there is no search tool in dconf is there?
[15:47] <jasonbassett> No
[15:47] <jasonbassett> i have tried altering grub acpi=force as suggested on various websites
[15:47] <zykotick9> linda_, because ubuntu doesn't modify the debian upstream version of xchat
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> linda_: what is the outut of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:47] <jasonbassett> all latest updates are installed
[15:48] <linda_> lucid
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> jasonbassett: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:48] <Sorikan> is "find -cmin +10 -iname *.mov" the proper find syntax to find files that have NOT been modified in the last 10 minutes? Thanks!
[15:48] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, it's normal - #debian was trying to figure out ways to sort out if it's actually a debian distro or a derivative distro - they didn't find one yet
[15:48] <desturrr> hey everyone, i was wondering if anyone can suggest me a project man. system like jira but open source
[15:48] <jasonbassett> Perhaps not, I will check.  It is a brand new Dell inspiron
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: gotcha
[15:48] <jasonbassett> deksotp
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> jasonbassett: doesn't matter, there could have been a new BIOS released yesterday with ACPI fixes,so newness is irrelevant
[15:49] <jasonbassett> righto, away from machine at moment so will try tomorrow, cheers
[15:49] <void_> is there any tool to search file contents from terminal?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> void_: grep
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> void_: grep search file
[15:50] <secretrobotron> hi all. anybody have experience launching a firefox nightly from the unity launcher?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> void-or:   grep -R search /path/to/folder       to search all the files in 'folder' and below, for 'search'
[15:50] <void_> ActionParnsip: thanks a lot. It works!
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> void_: grep is VERY powerful
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> void_: you can invert grep with:  grep -v search file
[15:51] <jigspan> how to set up snort on ubuntu 11.10 i386?
[15:52] <void_> ActionParnsip: it's interesting... yeah, i see... it's really powerfull
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> jigspan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SnortIDS
[15:53] <jigspan> thanks
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> void_: you can even pipe the results of grep to other commands :)
[15:53] <bullgard4> [T61] After a dist-upgrade there is no sound output. Banshee shows a progress bar progressing when playing a music piece though . alsamixer does not show »Headphone« and »Speaker« sliders, it shows only "00" at their bottom. '~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg; Playing raw data '/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono'...
[15:53] <bullgard4> ...but I...
[15:53] <bullgard4> ...do not hear a sound. What's wrong?
[15:53] <mikeconcepts> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype  this is what I found related to needing v4l to have my Intel CS300 webcam in skype, but don't know package to install
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> !find v4l1compat.so
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mikeconcepts: libv4l-0
[15:54] <mikeconcepts> thanks ActionParsnip
[15:54] <theadmin> mikeconcepts: In the future, use apt-file to search for files in packages
[15:54] <jigspan> actionparnsip:we had interaction on launchpad
[15:55] <mikeconcepts> thanks theadmin
[15:55] <jigspan> i have asked shutdown problem and thanks for ur help
[15:55] <theadmin> bullgard4: Is pulseaudio even running?
[15:56] <XaXoX> hello everyone, is there a termina command to know whether i'm running on nouveau nvidia drivers or nvidia restricted current drivers? Thank you very much
[15:56] <theadmin> XaXoX: lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:56] <jigspan> but my problem still exist
[15:56] <theadmin> XaXoX: And, well, lsmod | grep nouveau
[15:56] <linda_> XaXoX: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:57] <linda_> XaXoX: if /etc/X11/xorg.conf is present, you have restricted driver
[15:57] <theadmin> linda_: Not neccessarily true, actuallly
[15:58] <linda_> XaXoX: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:58] <XaXoX> thank you guys!
[15:58] <linda_> ?
[15:58] <XaXoX> lsmod  | grep nvidia gives out "nvidia              11713772  0 "
[15:58] <XaXoX> lsmod | grep nouveau gives out nothing
[15:58] <XaXoX> i don't have a xorg.conf
[15:58] <FloodBot1> XaXoX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <bullgard4> theadmin: How to check if pulseaudio is running? The dialog window "Sound" > Hardware shows an entry "Internal Audio".
[15:59] <theadmin> bullgard4: Um, pgrep pulseaudio
[15:59] <linda_> So  lsmod  | grep nvidia   is the way to find out.  Ok. Thanks for the correction.
[15:59] <renson> hi, my laptop can't start aptitude.
[15:59] <XaXoX> so with lsmod grep nvidia i'm sure that i'm running on nvidia restricted, right?
[15:59] <linda_> renson: Prolly not installed.
[16:00] <linda_> XaXoX: yes
[16:00] <bullgard4> theadmin: '~$ prep audio; 638; 1713'.
[16:00] <renson> giving this message: Bus errordependency tree
[16:00] <linda_> renson: aptitude is not installed by default.  (It is not needed.  apt does all you need.)
[16:00] <bullgard4> theadmin: '~$ prep pulseaudio; 1713'.
[16:00] <Anomie211> Is anyone aware if iPhone 4 usb tethering works out the box in 11.10? It doesnt work in 11.04 but I read a forum post that said 11.10 fixes this...
[16:00] <theadmin> bullgard4: Okay, it is running, hm, weird.
[16:00] <XaXoX> thank you, you are very kind
[16:01] <XaXoX> have a nice day
[16:02] <nvz> is natty 10.04? cause I thought that was lucid...
[16:03] <nvz> I thought natty was 11.04, and 11.10 was mavrick
[16:03] <brondy> is there an idiots guide to wpa2 used with a ported wireless router?
[16:03] <llutz> 10.10 is maverick
[16:03] <theadmin> nvz: Maverick is 10.10, Natty is 11.04, 11.10 is Oneric
[16:03] <jigspan> can anyone explain how to find out shut down problem?
[16:03] <brondy> and how to set up the radius server is the key i guess
[16:03] <Mad_Noob> test
[16:03] <Flynsarmy> in my list of startup applications i have one called 'caribou'. is it necessary if i don't use an on screen keyboard?
[16:03] <nvz> theadmin: ok, well I want natty on my thumbdrive and I can't find it anywhere.. unetbootin goes to 10.04 wich is what I had on there, and the site only shows 11.10 and 10.04 for download
[16:04] <renson> i installed it but don't know why stopped working?
[16:04] <nvz> theadmin: could you give me any advice on how to get natty?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !natty
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !lucid
[16:05] <nvz> natty is what I am currently deploying and supporting, but I keep having to install 10.04 and then upgrade cause I can't find natty
[16:06] <nvz> alright that works I guess, should be able to strap that desktop image with unetbootin I guess
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: if you don't need it, remove it
[16:06] <nvz> ubuntu releases are confusing to me...
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> nvz: if you forget the names and use numbers, its easier
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> nvz: what release are you on now :)
[16:07] <nvz> well with 10.04 11.04 and 10.11 they all look so similar its hard to keep track of as a debian user who is used to a simple and slow release cycle
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> nvz: you'll need to upgrade to 10.10 then 11.04
[16:08] <nvz> ActionParsnip: I am using natty on here.. but as I said thumbdrive had lucid and have to upgrade to natty
[16:08] <nvz> I am not ready to support nor do I forsee ever supporting 11.10 cause the gnome 3 transition is horridly broken
[16:08] <nvz> unless you want to use unity which is disgusting
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> nvz: if you boot to the thumb drive, you can grab the 10.10 alternate ISO and upgrade to 10.10, then repeat to 11.04
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> nvz: you can use gnome3 without unity
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> nvz: unity is only a shell
[16:09] <nvz> ActionParsnip: I'm just directly downloading the 11.04 desktop iso then gonna use unetbootin to strap it
[16:09] <jigspan> ActionParsnip: snort manual u mantion is for 9.04(jaunty) is there difference for 11.10?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> jigspan: I'd imaging it is largely unchanged, could ask in #snort
[16:10] <jigspan> thnx
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> nvz: if you wait til April next year you can upgrade to 12.04 in one leap as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[16:10] <nvz> ActionParsnip: yes but I tested 11.10 recently.. about a week or so ago.. tried installing classic gnome and can't list on a single sheet of paper all the ways its broken.. cant modify the gnome panels at all, right clickign them does nothing..etc.. tons of little bugs
[16:10] <Weed> hi
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nvz: you can use xfce in oneiric and it will smell and run like Gnome2
[16:11] <Weed> hmmmm
[16:11] <nvz> ActionParsnip: I don't want it to smell like it, I want it to be a fully working gnome.. heh
[16:11] <edbian> hello?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nvz: Gnome2 is dead
[16:11] <Weed> lol
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> hi edbian
[16:11] <tzanger> good morning.. I'm having some trouble getting grub installed on a software raid1. md0 is my root fs (ext4), md1 is data (also ext4). grub-install doesn't like it, running grub and saying "root (hd0,0)" doesn't print the filesystem type, and then "setup (hd0)" claims it can't mount hte partition.
[16:11] <Weed> who you from
[16:11] <nvz> ActionParsnip: I still use it, and I will use gnome 3 when its ready
[16:12] <deej1976> !ubuntu | weed
[16:12] <tzanger> is this expected behaviour? googling has a plethora of help but all for ext2 it seems (which suggests that grub "just works" with a software raid1 setup
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> tzanger: you can boot to liveCD/USB and reinstate grub2, may help
[16:12] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: that's exactly what I'm doing
[16:12] <tzanger> I've got a livecd booted, got mdadm showing the RAID arrays, grub refuses to install
[16:12] <AfterGlow-WFH> does anyone know how to preseed the installer to either not install updates or how to change the security_path to something other than /ubuntu ?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> tzanger: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[16:13] <Sorikan> is "find -cmin +10 -iname *.mov" the proper find syntax to find files that have NOT been modified in the last 10 minutes? Thanks!
[16:13] <tzanger> mounted /dev/md0 to /mnt/hd just fine. grub-install --root-device=/mnt/hd /dev/sda shows that grub can't dump the stage1 file because it can't mount the partition
[16:14] <jigspan> ActionParsnip: no one is available on #snort to chat
[16:14] <nvz> ew... I'd never put /boot on a raid.. thats just asking for trouble IMHO
[16:14] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: again, I've got usb stick booted. I've got my raid arrays set up and mounted. grub-install can't install grub because it says it cannot mount the partition (hd0,0) which is an ext4 partition
[16:14] <llutz> Sorikan: rather -mmin than -cmin
[16:15] <UncleTuna> is there an ubuntu for newbs website?  I'd like to read up on a few things that aren't discussed at ubuntu.com
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> tzanger: i've not used softraid in linux, sorry
[16:15] <tzanger> from grub: dump (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage1 /tmp/foo says "cannot mount selected partition"
[16:15] <milamber> !manual | UncleTuna
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> UncleTuna: www.omgubuntu.co.uk
[16:15] <UncleTuna> nice. thanks
[16:15] <AfterGlow-WFH> tzanger: I have half an idea I have seen a bug open about that but I can't be more specific sorry
[16:15] <nvz> UncleTuna: there is the little help icon that has a desktop walkthrough built in
[16:15] <bullgard4> [Thinkpad T61] After a dist-upgrade there is no sound output. Banshee shows a progress bar progressing when playing a music piece though. alsamixer does not show »Headphone« and »Speaker« sliders, it shows only "00" at their bottom. '~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg; Playing raw data '/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz,...
[16:15] <bullgard4> ...Mono' but I do not hear a sound. What's wrong?
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> i have a question for you guys,  what is the difference in features between xfce4-power-manager
[16:16] <Sorikan> Hmm thanks llutz, will give it a try as soon as this mov is done converting.....
[16:16] <tzanger> AfterGlow-WFH: :-) np, right now I think that this specific version of grub either doesn't know about ext4 or can't mount ext4 in a raid1 format
[16:16] <ubuntunoob> and which one uses less ram?
[16:16]  * nvz wanders off to deal with the dangerously low space issue
[16:16] <UncleTuna> I'm fine with the desk top. But I will check out that first url
[16:16] <tzanger> AfterGlow-WFH: actually if I turn off the raid and try to mount /dev/sda1 as ext4 (it's a raid partition) it can't find it either
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse; rm ~/.pulse    then wait a few seconds and try some sounds
[16:16] <tzanger> that is essentialy what grub (hd0,0) is
[16:16] <llutz> Sorikan: cmin/ctime checks for changes like chown/chmod etc., mmin/mtime for data modification of a file
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nvz: /boot on raid is fine on bootable raid cards
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nvzmost users use cheap and crappy onboard raid which does cause issues
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> i heard that xfce4-power-manager is glitchy compared to gnome-power-mnager
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> is this true?
[16:17] <UncleTuna> I hope that manual is more useful that this dang 10.04 bible....$60.00 worth of...ermmm
[16:17] <Sorikan> Thanks llutz, I am running the find like that to find files that have finished uploading so that they can be converted
[16:17] <milamber> UncleTuna: it is :)
[16:17] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: I'm using straight software raid, not fakeraid. hardware raid would hsow the array as a physical drive so that would stand to reason that grub would just work with it
[16:18] <TK5791> I'm now using XF4C
[16:18] <milamber> UncleTuna: and if there is anything specific you are having trouble with - there are plenty of volunteers here to help out
[16:19] <TK5791> can anyone tell me to find the soundcard settings?
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> do you have alsa or a sound server installed ?
[16:19] <milamber> TK5791: there should be a volume icon in the top right corner
[16:19] <UncleTuna> milamber: I'm sure there will be...heh heh but honestly I just started on this box, still got another os on my hdd
[16:19] <ubuntunoob> and what kernel are you on?
[16:20] <Unknown53136> Hey guys, is there any way to strip down Xubuntu _a lot_? I tried doing it on my own during installation through synaptic but after that, it failed to compile
[16:20] <TK5791> in Unity it used to be on the top right hand corner... but XF4C nothing
[16:20] <milamber> !who | ubuntunoob
[16:20] <UncleTuna> using Oneric now
[16:20] <ubuntunoob> okay
[16:20] <setog3> hi, I have done some mess with my /usr/lib/ .. in fact I created symbolic link for all files in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu in the directory /usr/lib. Do you know a way to undo it ? (should I remove every link in /usr/lib and reinstall all ubuntu package to recreate link that should be there ?)
[16:20] <Unknown53136> it failed to install*
[16:20] <TK5791> 1
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> if you need lighter than xfce then install Lubuntu
[16:21] <zykotick9> ubuntunoob, FYI Pulse (the sound server) actually runs onto of ALSA - so you use ALSA either way
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: if you installl and run volwheel, you will get an icon
[16:21] <Unknown53136> mm
[16:21] <TK5791> volwheel?
[16:21] <sskniranjan> how to create desktop icon for any application
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunoob: can just install lxde, the apps installed will run fine in XFCE ;)
[16:21] <TK5791> do you have the terminal command?
[16:21] <ubuntunoob> i know that
[16:22] <zi0r> Hi
[16:22] <ubuntunoob> im just saying if he really needs it to be really light then install lubuntu
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: its a package, like any other
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: volwheel will be runnable from ALT+F2
[16:22] <UncleTuna> oh and btw " https://help.ubuntu.com/community" was what it appears to be what I'm after
[16:23] <sskniranjan> please help me with creating desktop icon for any app like that of fire fox for instance
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sskniranjan: I suggest you copy one from /use/share/applications   or there may be a slimmer one in ~/.config/autostart
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sskniranjan: firefox will have one already
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sskniranjan: why do you want to make one?
[16:24] <shafeeqes> hey ..can anybodu help..how can i get classic interface (ie; gnome2 i guess) in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[16:24] <dabukalam> I took an image upon installation to be used as my login photo. Where can I find this image?
[16:24] <zykotick9> !notunity | shafeeqes
[16:25] <zykotick9> shafeeqes, gnome2 specifically, isn't possible
[16:25] <zi0r> Im trying to find wireless networks around me. But iwlist wlan0 scan and iwlist wlan1 scan  detect only one wlanNetwork. My own. Unter the networkmanager of ubuntu (on the right side of the top panel) i see a lot of networks - More then 10. Has someone a idea what kind of problem i have?
[16:25] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: figured it out. the mdadm version 1.1 and 1.2 superblocks are at the start (or 4kB from the start), which prevents the old trick of being able to mount a filesystem that is part of a RAID1 array OUTside of mdadm, which is exactly what GRUB needs
[16:25] <TK5791> I'm in the software center and there is no VolWheel available
[16:25] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: the solution is to have a very small "grub" partition that is not part of the raid filesystem.  what a pain in the ass
[16:25] <Mad_Noob> test
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> tzanger: its the pain with cheap raid, you can use an SD card to store the boot partition.
[16:27] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg; Playing raw data '/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono' but I cannot hear any sound in my headphone.
[16:27] <tzanger> ActionParsnip: true, but that means I have to keep an sd card in the system. I will just degrade the array, create a new array with 1.0 superblock and copy stuff over, then migrate the old one over to the new. fun.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> zi0r: try using wicd and you can set the wifi device name, network manager will nearly always use wlan0
[16:27] <milamber> Mad_Noob: works
[16:27] <shafeeqes> mm..ok thanks...
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: run:  alsamixer    and unmute and crank all levels
[16:28] <ubuntunoob> is there a way to make it so the wireless key turnoff works in ubuntu?
[16:28] <ubuntunoob> i have a dell latitude d505
[16:29] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: In alsamixer I cannot crank the levels of »Headphone« and »Speaker« because there are no sliders to be seen for them.
[16:30] <ubuntunoob> maybe your soundcard is blacklisted:  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[16:30] <ubuntunoob> look at that
[16:30] <westje> what is the ms project alternative for linux
[16:31] <sskniranjan> please help me in creating desktop icons
[16:31] <sztii> is anyone here ??
[16:31] <sztii> :)
[16:31] <ubuntunoob> ssk, what desktop enviroment are you using?
[16:31] <TK5791> ok, I can't find VolWheel in the software center, but I've found it via a google search.
[16:31] <ubuntunoob> gnome xfce kde lxde ?
[16:32] <Lazure> does anyone know why i can't access a windows 7 share in ubuntu through nautilus? it says 'failed to retrieve share list from server'. BUT, if i do a terminal command 'nautilus smb://192.168.x.x' it works just fine.
[16:32] <Lazure> any way to fix it so the GUI will take me there the easy way?
[16:32] <TK5791> I downloaded it and extracted it... I've tried to run it and nothing happens... what gives?
[16:32] <Lazure> linux mint 10 was able to do it from 'browse network' just fine
[16:32] <zi0r> ActionParsnip, the networkmanager is not the problem. Just iwlist  ... it show only one wlan device.
[16:32] <Lazure> it's when i replaced linux mint with ubuntu 11.10 that it broke.
[16:32] <Juggernaut> Hello. Quick question about Gnome and KDE. The KDE battery detection thing correctly determines my battery level, Gnome's doesnt. Can I import one to the other? If this makes sense?
[16:33] <milamber> westje: i have used dotproject.net
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: it's in the repos, you don't need to dowload anything
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !info volwheel
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[16:33] <TK5791> ActionParsnip: Repos?
[16:34] <milamber> ActionParsnip: i did a cache search on lucid and it wasn't there either
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  a repo is a software source
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> westje: I've found openproj
[16:34] <EisNerd> uhm, what is needed on 11.10 to allow ldap users to login to a graphical session?
[16:34] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, "apt-cache policy volwheel" are you getting it from a PPA perhaps?  i'd previously check !info and seen that it wasn't in default repo.
[16:34] <AfterGlow-WFH> does anyone know the correct question to preseed to change the security_path in the d-i ?
[16:34] <TK5791> MonkeyDust: thank you and how do I get access to this software resource, through the software center?
[16:34] <EisNerd> (using nfs automounted homes)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1461180
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> TK5791  yes
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: seems to have been removed
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: that flow has some suggestions
[16:35] <TK5791> ActionParsnip: thanks dude
[16:35] <TK5791> or dudess
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Lazure: under the file menu in nautilus should connect you to Windows shares
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: dude :)
[16:36] <TK5791> coolio
[16:36] <TK5791> you never know
[16:37] <TK5791> unable to locate package volwheel
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> true
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> TK5791: read further down
[16:38] <Juggernaut> Anyone know how to import KDE's battery management to Gnome?
[16:39] <calvin> hi there too you all :))
[16:40] <TK5791> E: Unable to locate package xfce-volued
[16:41] <TK5791> Linux is hard work
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> we all were beginners, once
[16:41] <GuruMVP> Follow us on twitter, we are giving away 5 diablo 3 beta keys and one lucky person will win $5000.00 USD!! All you have to do is follow us! http://twitter.com/#!/GuruMVP Tell your friends and family!
[16:42] <calvin> TK5791, let ice-root, Gunbert and other come in and you can ask them
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> GuruMVP  wrong channel
[16:42] <TK5791> calvin: when are they coming in?
[16:42] <sKeiths> !repeat
[16:42] <ubuntunoob> juggernaut: just install the kde powermanager
[16:42] <zykotick9> Juggernaut, I doubt you'd be able to use KDE's battery indicator in Gnome (i could be wrong) unless it's a stand alone program
[16:43] <calvin> where soon ..GMT ??
[16:43] <zykotick9> ubuntunoob, i believe they already have it installed - thus they know it works
[16:43] <|Long|> hi, i have 10 internal hard drives on this ubuntu 11.10, everytime i rebooted, drives letter changed, is there away to make this not to change permantly?
[16:43] <Juggernaut> Yea thats the problem. I'm not sure it exists as a package
[16:44] <ubuntunoob> !tab
[16:44] <zykotick9> |Long|, use UUID or LABELS not /dev/sdXY
[16:44] <ubuntunoob> i will check on that 4 u juggernaut
[16:44] <Juggernaut> Its a real pity too. Gnome gives me a critical battery message when I disconnect the charger, on full charge
[16:44] <Juggernaut> ubuntu: That would be awesome, thanks
[16:44] <|Long|> zykotick9, i did on fstab, but glftpd on dzbot.conf is not easy to used
[16:45] <zykotick9> |Long|, sorry i have no idea what glftpd or dzbot.conf is... good luck.
[16:45] <|Long|> zykotick9, thanks
[16:46] <Juggernaut> gnome-power-manager seems to be a legitimate package
[16:46] <ubuntunoob> juggernaut: http://maketecheasier.com/kde-power-management-101/2010/06/09
[16:46] <ubuntunoob> idk if thats it or nt
[16:46] <ubuntunoob> but
[16:46] <ubuntunoob> you can chek that
[16:47] <Juggernaut> I will, thank you
[16:47] <zykotick9> Juggernaut, do you have KDE installed?  If you don't, trying to install the power management package will probably pull into the entire KDE
[16:47] <ubuntunoob> and  this: http://chrisjrob.com/2011/03/06/kde-power-management-in-pekwm/
[16:48] <Juggernaut> zyko: I do, but everything in KDE is broken, except the power manager
[16:48] <zykotick9> Juggernaut, plus, i still doubt you'll be able to use the KDE power in Gnome
[16:48] <Juggernaut> In Gnome the power manager was the only thing that was broken
[16:48] <zykotick9> !tab > Juggernaut
[16:48] <Juggernaut> Will do
[16:48] <Juggernaut> oh.
[16:48] <ubuntunoob> !tab juggernaut
[16:48] <Juggernaut> Yea yea
[16:48] <Juggernaut> I got it
[16:49] <antnash> Does anyone know how the android control app gets the mac address of the system it's connecting to?
[16:49] <z3r0> irc.hacker-newbie.org
[16:49] <llutz> antnash: arp?
[16:49] <antnash> ah right. cheers llutz
[16:49] <EgyParadox> !offtopic
[16:49] <antnash> oh
[16:50] <antnash> wrong channel
[16:50] <antnash> oops!
[16:50] <calvin> EgyParadox, why you want off topic
[16:50] <antnash> should have been in #xbmc
[16:50] <Juggernaut> It seems installing it would be possible, but I'll have to install a bunch load of KDE dependencies
[16:50] <Juggernaut> which I should have expected I suppose
[16:51] <ubuntunoob> actually
[16:51] <ubuntunoob> just a sec i have an idea
[16:51] <calvin> Juggernaut, the link posted to you ubuntunoob did you try that
[16:51] <Juggernaut> calvin: I have to reinstall Linux before I do that. So not yet, but soon
[16:52] <julian> i need help.. i need create a user??? i have debian squeeze... (comand: useradd)
[16:52] <ubuntunoob> julian wrong channel
[16:52] <llutz> julian: use adduser and ask in #debian
[16:53] <zykotick9> julian, use "adduser foo" instead -- and #debian is the real channel you want
[16:53] <Juggernaut> ubuntunoob: I'm going to try out the steps detailed in the first link
[16:53] <ubuntunoob> okay
[16:53] <Juggernaut> Brb
[16:54] <calvin> Juggernaut, re-installing has nothing to do with power management..it will still continue the post of ubuntunoob will fix it. just try it it will not harm the system
[16:55] <hh> Hey! I'm using fluxbox, and I wonder if there's a way to log off so that it would remember the windows I had open. Do you know of a way?
[16:56] <judh> free space is not available
[16:56] <ubuntunoob> nvm i thought i could find something in the kubuntu uninstall
[16:57] <ubuntunoob> but i didnt
[16:57] <EisNerd> uhm, ok could someone tell me wha tit needs beside ldap-configuration to allow a user configured via ldap to login at lightdm on 11.10?
[16:57] <EisNerd> as ssh works nice
[16:57] <calvin> hh, if loging off you are change the user how you predict the session to remain the same in next logon to diffrent user
[16:57] <cipherboy> sadam: In theory you could create a script that reads what applications are open
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> hh  look for "session" on this pâge https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[16:58] <cipherboy> sadam: (when you log off,) and then on start up, it would read that file and launch those applications.
[16:58] <famgod> im having trouble connecting to a windows share...I open up my home directory type in //192.168.2.10 but it cant find anything (i can ping 192.168.2.10) though\
[16:59] <shomon> hi, I have a directory full of files like "-4363546345.dat"
[16:59] <shomon> how do I delete them?
[16:59] <cipherboy> shomon: rm *dat
[16:59] <shomon> rm thinks the - is a parameter
[16:59] <cipherboy> the -?
[16:59] <cipherboy> Oh, ignore the -
[16:59] <shomon> yes, the - at the beginning of each file
[16:59] <cipherboy> You could do:
[16:59] <shomon> rm: invalid option -- '1'
[17:00] <shomon> it says
[17:00] <cipherboy> Sorry, even with * and not naming each and every one of them?
[17:00] <shomon> -1437238629.dat is one name. evil tweetcaster
[17:00] <deej1976> famgod: Open nautilus and File-> connect to server, select windows shares
[17:00] <llutz> shomon: rm -- -*
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> !pm| hh
[17:00] <shomon> yay, thanks llutz
[17:00] <shomon> what did the -- do?
[17:00] <shomon> it worked :)
[17:00]  * deej1976 shutting down
[17:00] <llutz> shomon: "no more options to follow"
[17:01] <zykotick9> llutz, i'd like to thank you as well, i've run into the -filename issue before as well (i cheated by using nautilus)
[17:01] <shomon> aah thanks very much llutz and cipherboy
[17:02] <cipherboy> Somebody have an issue with samba?
[17:02] <fff> hi
[17:02] <cipherboy> fff Hello.
[17:03] <fff> hi
[17:03] <Triscar0> im installing postfix truh this stepbystep guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix) and when i write these commands i get permission denied, when i run them as root.
[17:03] <Triscar0> torger@Server:/etc/postfix$ sudo touch smtpd.key
[17:03] <Triscar0> torger@Server:/etc/postfix$ sudo chmod 600 smtpd.key
[17:03] <Triscar0> torger@Server:/etc/postfix$ sudo openssl genrsa 1024 > smtpd.key
[17:03] <Triscar0> -bash: smtpd.key: Permission denied
[17:03] <FloodBot1> Triscar0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <fff> how r u?
[17:03] <Triscar0> oh sorry
[17:03] <fff>  where r u from?
[17:03] <jutnux> fff: Please go to ubuntu-offtopic for that chat.
[17:04] <cipherboy> fff You have a question regarding Ubuntu?
[17:04] <llutz> Triscar0: openssl genrsa 1024 |sudo tee -a smtpd.key
[17:04] <Triscar0> llutz, and that do what ? :D
[17:05] <Triscar0> still get permission denied
[17:08] <llutz> Triscar0: just skip the 1st 2 steps and chmod 600 after generating the key
[17:08] <llutz> Triscar0: or use a real root shell, sudo -i
[17:09] <Triscar0> torger@Server:/etc/postfix$ sudo -r openssl genrsa 1024 > smtpd.key
[17:09] <Triscar0> -bash: smtpd.key: Permission denied
[17:10] <llutz> Triscar0: "sudo -i"    then "openssl genrsa 1024 > smtpd.key"
[17:10] <Guest483> while updating 10.04  i am getting error pls insert he disk labeled: ubuntu 11.10_oneiric Ocelot
[17:11] <Triscar0> works, thnx llutz:D
[17:11] <zykotick9> Guest483, what is your output from "lsb_release -sc"?  did you add an Ocelot repository?
[17:11] <lunitik> Guest483, that isn't really an error... just go into 'Software Sources' and remove the CD as a source
[17:11] <hh> Hmmm... I installed openbox; but I don't see and difference.
[17:11] <hh> *any
[17:12] <hh> I thought it should allow me to resize windows in fluxbox.
[17:12] <judh> i use ircii to connect to a server chat.freenode.net:6667 ? but error unable to connect to server what would i fix it?
[17:12] <hh> No?
[17:12] <lunitik> hh, did you actually go into an openbox session?
[17:12] <hh> I think so.
[17:12] <cipherboy> hh O.o
[17:12] <hh> I typed:
[17:12] <zykotick9> !enter | hh
[17:12] <lunitik> hh, fluxbox and openbox cannot run together
[17:12] <cipherboy> hh fluxbox can resize its own windows.
[17:12] <hh> exec openbox-session
[17:12] <hh> lunitik, how?
[17:12] <hh> Sorry, I meant cipherboy.
[17:13] <lunitik> hh, they are both window managers, you can't run two window managers at the same time
[17:13] <cipherboy> hh What keybindings do you have?
[17:13] <lunitik> hh, are you running a login manager atm?
[17:13] <judh> I want to connect to a irc server from my terminal. how can i do it?
[17:13] <hh> Okay. Monkeydust told me to install it so that I can log off in such a way that it would remember the windows I had open.
[17:13] <Guest483> lucid
[17:14] <lunitik> judh, many like irssi... with it, you can do 'irssi -c irc.freenode.net' for example
[17:14] <hh> So I should be able to resize windows through key shortcuts but not through the mouse?
[17:14] <Guest483> CD is not add as source
[17:14] <lunitik> Guest483, it has to be, else why would it be looking at one?
[17:14] <judh> lunitik i will try
[17:14] <shomon> another question: how do I find out what file is "writing data to device" and stop it so I can eject my phone?
[17:14] <cipherboy> hh: no, you bind some key (win key in my example) plus right click on window to resizing.
[17:15] <cipherboy> hh: not on my system with the config at the moment, but you should find it on google.
[17:15] <Guest483> now how can i install updates
[17:15] <phong_> happy halloween everyone
[17:16] <phong_> and happy new year
[17:16] <pikaciu> today is thanksgiving :P
[17:16] <cipherboy> phong_ you are late.. and early.
[17:16] <hh> Huh... Okay. And how about fluxbox remembering the windows I have open when I log off?
[17:16] <zykotick9> hh, a general Xorg method to resize windows is ALT+MIDDLEMOUSECLICK then drag to resize
[17:17] <shomon> how can I unmount a drive that keeps saying "writing data to device" or "device is busy"?
[17:17] <hh> zykotick9, I don't have a middle button on my mouse.
[17:17] <zykotick9> hh, i don't remember fluxbox having a "remember open windows" option
[17:18] <zykotick9> hh, no scroll wheel? that's usually a button as well.
[17:18] <hh> No... Laptop...
[17:18] <pikaciu> shomon: try with sudo
[17:18] <shomon> tried that
[17:18] <cipherboy> hh zykotick9 you could probably create a script if you wanted to...
[17:18] <shomon> I tried sudo umount -f drivename
[17:18] <shomon> device or resource busy
[17:18] <khelfanassim> Hi everybody
[17:19] <pikaciu> shomon: try without -f
[17:19] <zykotick9> shomon, close any open terminal (if a terminal is open inside that drive, you'll get that error)
[17:19] <judh> i tried irssi, irssi -c irc.freenode.net but i get the error  unable to connect to the server connection refused....what would be the problem?
[17:20] <llutz> shomon: fuser /dev/yourdevice
[17:20] <shomon> thanks
[17:20] <shomon> ah, what device is it?
[17:20] <|Long|> on ubuntu 11.10, how can i create shortcut for terminal and gparted on desktop?
[17:20] <hh> Ah, Alt+right clicking works to resize windows.
[17:21] <llutz> shomon: if you know "drivename" you should know the device
[17:21] <shomon> ah okay
[17:21] <shomon> it's just a symlink I think
[17:22] <llutz> shomon: readlink ...
[17:22] <Guest483> lunitik: you were right CD was in the source . i removed it. now updating. Thank you.
[17:22] <pikaciu> shomon: it's a floppy ?
[17:22] <hh> So, my ubuntu has been installed via wubi. I know that this means that the usual hibernate option is impossible. Is there a way to bypass that and somehow force hibernation?
[17:22] <shomon> no, sorry no idea how to tell what device it is
[17:22] <shomon> it's a phone
[17:22] <judh> i tried to connect to the irc server through irssi but i got a message unable to connect to the server connection refused what it mean?
[17:22] <lunitik> Guest483, you're welcome, good luck  :)
[17:23] <llutz> shomon: what's the "drivename"?
[17:23] <lunitik> judh, what server you try to connect to?
[17:23] <shomon> FC30-3DA9/
[17:23] <llutz> shomon: mount | grep FC30-3DA9
[17:24] <shomon> ah wow.. it finally said "write failed"
[17:24] <lunitik> judh, nm, I see... that shouldn't have errored though... try 'irssi -c irc.ubuntu.com' instead?
[17:24] <shomon> thanks anyway... I think it was because of an scp command that had failed...
[17:24] <lunitik> judh, (same network, maybe freenode doesn't want you connecting to its main server... most clients recognize it as a foward)
[17:25] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which sucks.
[17:25] <xothorus> hello everyone
[17:26] <judh> lunitik, i tried to connect to the server irc.freenode.net
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> judh  org, not net
[17:26] <llutz> net, not org
[17:26] <lunitik> ahh, that would be my bad, I told him that
[17:27] <xothorus> could anyone tell me (if it even exists) if theres a repo which has tightvncserver for jaunty, armel build?
[17:27] <llutz> it is http://freenode.net and so it is irc.freenode.net
[17:27] <lunitik> judh, did the ubuntu server work instead?
[17:28] <psoto> hi
[17:28] <lunitik> psoto, hey
[17:28] <judh> lunitik it does not work
[17:28] <llutz> judh: start irssi, then "/server irc.freenode.net"
[17:28] <psoto> can someone explain me how this works?
[17:29] <psoto> IRC*
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[17:29] <dbg33k> ^
[17:29] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I am looking for a tool to cut up sounds files (ogg) into pieces, I don't need additional editing features. Do you know of any good lightweight program for that?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> cat has an option to do that
[17:30] <|Slacker|> how do I check which video driver ubuntu is using?
[17:30] <dddbmt> MonkeyDust, for me?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> dddbmt  yes
[17:30] <judh> irssi "/server irc.freenode.net"  i tried like this but gets the messange unable to connect to the server connection refused
[17:30] <dddbmt> MonkeyDust, I'll try check that out - thanks.
[17:31] <cipherboy> all: sorry, have to drop
[17:32] <Guest42495> s
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> judh  try irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n judh
[17:33] <judh> monkeydust, please go through my screenshot http://imagebin.org/185457
[17:34] <llutz> judh: /rmreconns
[17:34] <dddbmt> MonkeyDust, Know that I think about it I need some kind of gui. I need it to determine where in the file to cut, I am trying to cut out a single drum beat of a larger sample.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> judh  type /quit and then enter the line I showed
[17:34] <llutz> dddbmt: audacity
[17:35] <sabayon_> hi
[17:36] <pikaciu> .
[17:36] <dddbmt> llutz,That looks good, I'll go give it a try. Thank you
[17:37] <llutz> judh: is there somethin filtering your connections?      connect works fine here: "Your host is leguin.freenode.net[130.239.18.172/6667]"
[17:37] <judh> MonkeyDust, i tried as you told me but still i could not be able to connect
[17:38] <llutz> judh: ping -c3 130.239.18.172
[17:38] <|Long|> I can't find terminalx on 11.10 guys
[17:41] <judh> llutz, 100% packet loss....3 packet transmitted
[17:41] <llutz> judh:dig -c2 74.125.43.147
[17:44] <judh> llutz, i get the warning.....server 144.16.192.1....by the what to do with dig -c2 command
[17:44] <llutz> judh: sry, ping -c2 ...
[17:45] <Sorikan> if I run a .sh script from root's cron, does it or does it not have root permissions? if not, how do i give it root permissions?
[17:45] <pangolin> !ping
[17:45] <M4rc3l> pong!
[17:46] <|Long|> I can't find terminal x on 11.10 can someone plz help?
[17:46] <judh> llutz, no ping....100% packet loss....what to do next?
[17:46] <llutz> judh: do you have internet at all on that machine?
[17:46] <judh> yaa
[17:47] <llutz> judh: sudo iptables -vL
[17:47] <llutz> judh:  any OUTPUT rules active?
[17:50] <judh> llutz, INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD.. 0 packet transmitted 0byte...not active
[17:51] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which sucks.
[17:51] <judh> llutz, is it due to the proxy server blockage?
[17:51] <llutz> judh: could be
[17:52] <AlexFlower_> hello guys
[17:52] <AlexFlower_> I have an issue with my sistem
[17:52] <JusticeZero> what is the issue?
[17:52] <AlexFlower_> http://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/wiki/BuildingOnLinux
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> I am trying to install that
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> but
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> it won't let me
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> it worked just fine when I installed manually first 4 packages
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> libsdl1.2-dev
[17:53] <AlexFlower_> but that one causes problems
[17:55] <admin1> hello
[17:55] <admin1> list
[17:55] <JusticeZero> hmmmm.
[17:55] <AlexFlower_> any ideea?
[17:56] <pangolin> We still don't know what the problem is. are you getting error messages?
[17:56] <AlexFlower_> yes
[17:56] <Guest42495> does anyone know how i can reassign the mute button on my keyboard to toggle mute? gui keyboard editor isnt helping
[17:56] <AlexFlower_> 1 sec
[17:57] <AlexFlower_> sudo apt-get install mercurial cmake qt4-qmake libqt4-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev liblua5.1-dev fpc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Note, selecting 'liblua5.1-0-dev' instead of 'liblua5.1-dev' cmake este deja la cea mai nouă versiune. libqt4-dev este deja la cea mai nouă versiune. qt4-qmake este deja
[17:57] <AlexFlower_> this is the error
[17:57] <AlexFlower_> sorry it's in romanian
[17:57] <FloodBot1> AlexFlower_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <AlexFlower_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/748438/
[17:57] <llutz> AlexFlower_: use LANG=C sudo apt-get install ... for english errors
[17:58] <AlexFlower_> 1lutz I know
[17:58] <AlexFlower_> but it won't make any difference
[17:58] <llutz> AlexFlower_: it would, people here could read it
[17:58] <AlexFlower_> noo
[17:58] <AlexFlower_> I mean
[17:58] <AlexFlower_> it won't change the text
[17:58] <JusticeZero> maybe not, but we'd be able to understand the error message...
[17:59] <AlexFlower_> it looks the exact same
[17:59] <AlexFlower_> I understand it would be better
[17:59] <AlexFlower_> but LANG=C changes nothing in the error
[17:59] <llutz> AlexFlower_: sry i see it now... odd
[17:59] <pangolin> the rror says that the package won't be installed because there are held broken packages
[17:59] <JusticeZero> Is that message saying...that you're trying to install an older version?
[18:00] <AlexFlower_> it basically says that
[18:00] <JusticeZero> the held broken packages?
[18:00] <AlexFlower_> libsdl1.2-dev needs some other package to work
[18:00] <AlexFlower_> I try to install that package
[18:00] <AlexFlower_> yea
[18:01] <Triscar0> We have to change a few things to make it work properly. Because Postfix runs chrooted in /var/spool/postfix we have change a couple paths to live in the false root. (ie. /var/run/saslauthd becomes /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd):
[18:01] <Triscar0> how do i make the path ?
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> and then
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> it says that the second package needs other 2 packages
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> I try to install the first of them
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> it says I have it
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> at latest version
[18:01] <AlexFlower_> I try the other one
[18:02] <AlexFlower_> it says it need the first one that is missing
[18:02] <AlexFlower_> but that one is actually there
[18:03] <EvilResistance> !enter | AlexFlower_
[18:03] <AlexFlower_> ups
[18:04] <AlexFlower_> ok, so the thing is it asks for a package which can not be installed because I miss 2 other packages (1 of them if I try to install it says it is the latest version, the other says it needs the first one which is missing) so there is nothing I can do
[18:04] <EvilResistance> AlexFlower_, now you're repeating yourself.
[18:05] <EvilResistance> AlexFlower_, i may have called !enter on you, but you dont need to repeat yourself... we likely saw what you said
[18:05] <AlexFlower_> EvirResistance I was just trying to make myself clear
[18:05] <Gentoo64> AlexFlower_: try uninstall and reinstalling the first one
[18:06] <Gentoo64> dno why, might pick it up
[18:06] <fab> hello
[18:06] <Gentoo64> hi fab
[18:07] <fab> hi have same probleme with my GT555M
[18:08] <Gentoo64> what problem is that
[18:08] <iamweirdie> hello
[18:08] <fab> it's an graphics card with optimus
[18:08] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[18:08] <fab> :/
[18:08] <Gentoo64> i cant help there :(
[18:08] <iamweirdie> can someone help me decipher this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/746506/ i tried using my persistent usb, this is what i get when i try to update
[18:09] <EvilResistance> fab, i dont think optimus cards work exactly right just yet...
[18:09] <fab> if i don't add "nomodeset" for boot in grub config i have an error.. but, than this option i can boot 1time/10.. i don't understand what ?
[18:10] <fab> my probleme is, if i add "nomodeset" i can't setup my xorg more than 1280*1024
[18:10] <zykotick9> fab, have you tried using Bumblebee
[18:11] <fab> yes but i don't understand what bumblebee made exactly ?
[18:11] <fab> sorry for my english :p
[18:11] <nightwalkerkg> Hi,i need help with my monitor. One person told me to copy this http://paste.ubuntu.com/748456/ to X11/something/something. I cant remember the name of the folder and the file and i can't make the new folder or file in that location.I am using Ubuntu 11.10,ATI Radeon 9550 card and LG Flatron ez T710B monitor.Can anyone help?
[18:11] <l0n> iamweirdie looks like you don't have your fstab setup properly, have you got an entry for / ?
[18:12] <someonesomeoneel> How change user's name? Not username (login), but the full name which appears on login screen.
[18:12] <iamweirdie> l0n i didn't set this usb up- i was using pendrivelinux.com
[18:13] <iamweirdie> l0n is there a way to fix this through terminal?
[18:13] <os__> hi
[18:13] <zykotick9> l0n, i don't think that's actually the issue - probably something related to initrd and crypt.  iamweirdie
[18:13] <JohnH_> Can someone tell me how to change my dictionary to Russian on LibreOffice. I've downloaded one from thir website but I dont know how to make it work. Currently there is no spell checker even in English/ I want it to show me the wiggly red line when I write wrong words.
[18:13] <os__> does ubuntu server has xen by default ?
[18:13] <iamweirdie> zykotick9 fixable?
[18:13] <tosse> i just updated from 11.04 to 11.10 (amd64) and now i dont get a welcome screen, how do i fix?
[18:14] <zykotick9> iamweirdie, no idea - but i don't get involved in cyrptfs issues.  Good luck.
[18:14] <zykotick9> iamweirdie, the specific issue I notice was "is /dev mounted?"
[18:14] <tosse> the updated got interrupted and i had to restart and finish it from console
[18:15] <san> hi.,
[18:15] <arlene1> hi there. my system is missing libsoftokn3.so - which package should I install to get it?
[18:15] <fab> what do "nomodeset" exactly ?
[18:16] <zykotick9> fab, if you are asking what nomodeset does, it basically disables the kernel graphics
[18:16] <JusticeZero> !enter FloodBot3
[18:17] <fab> i have this error if i boot than "nomodeset" http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=628641
[18:17] <llutz> !find libsoftokn3.so
[18:17] <fab> but 1time / 10 the laptop boot correctly
[18:18] <zykotick9> JohnH_, you might want to try in #libreoffice channel
[18:18] <fab> i don't understand
[18:18] <nightwalkerkg> Can anyone help me?
[18:18] <llutz> !find libsoftokn3.so  | arlene1
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> looks like noveau driver is crashing for you fab
[18:19] <zykotick9> fab, sorry no.  I don't have any optimus devices - so haven't played with them myself.  I've just read people here having issues, and know that Bumblebee adds support for switching somehow (i don't have any specifics sorry)
[18:20] <fab> :/
[18:20] <fab> SolarisBoy, the probleme is if i add "nomodeset" my laptop boot correctly but i can't up xorg to FULL HD
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> nomodeset is limiting kernel graphics
[18:21] <fab> ok but, why one out of 10 it's work ?
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> buggy driver maybe not sure
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> is this a new occurrence  for you?
[18:22] <nightwalkerkg> Hi,i need help with my monitor. One person told me to copy this http://paste.ubuntu.com/748456/ to X11/something/something. I cant remember the name of the folder and the file and i can't make the new folder or file in that location.I am using Ubuntu 11.10,ATI Radeon 9550 card and LG Flatron ez T710B monitor.Can anyone help?
[18:22] <fab> yes, it's a new laptop with i7 and GT 555m
[18:23] <genii-around> nightwalkerkg: The file would /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> fab assuming gt555m is the vid card,, i would check online if any talks about your ubuntu version and that card specifically,, try google
[18:23] <fab> i have already try bumblebee but no change nothing with nomodeset
[18:23] <judh> EC instance can provide free service with few spaces?
[18:23] <nightwalkerkg> genii-araound yes,and somthing like monitor.... .conf
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> maybe using a different video driver is needed?
[18:23] <genii-around> nightwalkerkg: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and then copy the contents in, save it.
[18:23] <zykotick9> fab, if you use "lspci | grep -i vga" does it return intel or nvidia?  i'm guessing intel right now.
[18:24] <fab> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:24] <judh> can any one explain how to do the tunnelling?
[18:24] <fab> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1247 (rev a1)
[18:24] <judh> how to do tunnelling?
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> judh what type of tunneling?
[18:24] <zykotick9> fab, really both? that's interesting.  Good luck.
[18:24] <fab> if i try use nvidia drivers it's crash...
[18:24] <nightwalkerkg> Saved it,thanx genii-around
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> fab yes i have seen it
[18:25] <genii-around> nightwalkerkg: You're welcome
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> fab i second zykotick9's update =(
[18:25] <fab> yes.. it's an switch with graphics gpu dans nvidia gpu
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> at work on my laptop this happend,, but a friend showed me nomodeset and it actually worked =)
[18:25] <fab> graphics CPU and nvidia gpu sorry
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> fab did you set nomodeset and update-grub?
[18:26] <judh> SolarisBoy, I dont know much but I want run BNC over the any webhosting server so that I could be hidden from my insttitute server
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> judh hmm i see making the sa's life hard at the campus huh =(
[18:26] <fab> yet i forced the startup without nomodeset for have max resolution
[18:27] <judh> SolarisBoy, what are the other tunnellings ?
[18:27] <fab> if i add nomodeset in grub the laptop boot same time but resolution max is 1280*1024
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> judh ssh ,ssl, vpn tunnels.. all types for different purposes
[18:28] <judh> SolarisBoy, how to do the ssh tunneling?
[18:28] <fab> I i tried many xorg.conf witch bumblebee / ironhide but nothing to do :S
[18:29] <fab>  I i tried many xorg.conf witch bumblebee / ironhide but nothing to do :S + "nomodeset"
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> judh: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ssh+tunneling
[18:30] <iceroot> !google | SolarisBoy
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> thats a link that explains the usage iceroot
[18:30] <os__> does ubuntu server has xen by default ?
[18:30] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: the usage of google
[18:30] <os__> does ubuntu server have xen by default ?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> technically it's showing him how to use google =)
[18:31] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: give him a link where a ssh-tunnel is explained instead
[18:31] <someonesomeoneel> How change user's name? Not username (login), but the full name which appears on login screen.
[18:31] <iceroot> SolarisBoy: we dont like that here
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> i see
[18:31] <tosse> where do i find font settings in ubuntu 11.10?
[18:31] <fab> simply, if i add nomodeset, laptop every time boot.. And if nomodeset is not add, laptop boot sime type with full HD...
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> ok *we* my bad.. nough said
[18:33] <zykotick9> tosse, does 11.10 still have "User Settings"?  There is a "change" button in older versions.
[18:33] <zykotick9> someonesomeoneel,  does 11.10 still have "User Settings"?  There is a "change" button in older versions.  (sorry tosse, TAB fail)
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> judh: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
[18:35] <someonesomeoneel> haha, thanks :) I checked it but failed to notice
[18:36] <benignbala> Hi, I need some help with bochs x86 emulator.
[18:36] <benignbala> I am using this after a long time. Earlier, there used to be a command bochs-dlx to launch the default dlx linux demo.
[18:37] <benignbala> But I don't see that in any of the bochs packages now. IIRC, earlier it used to be part of the default bochs package. Any idea which package it goes into now ?
[18:38] <benignbala> Sorry, forgot to mention, I am on Natty.
[18:39] <bassem_> is there better irc client than smuxi?
[18:39] <fab> i don't know who do :(
[18:40] <zykotick9> benignbala, (i'm just curious) why do you use Bochs?
[18:40] <JusticeZero> Is there anything similar to the dash in any other non-Unity desktops other than e17?
[18:40] <bassem_> is there better irc client than smuxi?
[18:40] <StepNjump> Hi I installed hplip (the drivers for my HP printer) and just found out after deleting all the files in my ~/download folder that some of those files in there belonged to the HPLIP install.. ooops...
[18:40] <benignbala> zykotick9: Just trying out a few low leve stuff
[18:41] <SolarisBoy> bassem_: i've never used smuxi but pidgin does irc
[18:41] <benignbala> bassem_: pidgin is good.
[18:41] <jutnux> Pidgin is amazing.
[18:41] <SolarisBoy> =) yes
[18:41] <StepNjump> As it was deleted with nautilus, there's no way to do CTRL-Z so what should I do now? Just reinstall HPLIP on top of itself or should I try to desinstall first?
[18:42] <zykotick9> bassem_, i'd personally recommend a real IRC client vs using an IM client for IRC
[18:43] <benignbala> zykotick9: Any idea where I can get the bochs-dlx ? Another problem is, the last time I used it I was on Debian(I guess Etch). But from google, I see a few references to bochs-dlx in gutsy
[18:43] <captainjamie> is there a fast way of replying to people on empathy and pidgin? (like clicking the persons name types "<name>: " in the chat window)
[18:43] <zykotick9> benignbala, sorry i have no idea, i played with Bochs a couple of years ago, but moved on to VBox and now KVM
[18:43] <bassem_> what is the better irc client zykotick9
[18:43] <benignbala> bassem_: Try Emacs/erc may be :)
[18:43] <SolarisBoy> lol
[18:43] <zykotick9> bassem_, do you want GUI or CLI?
[18:43] <SolarisBoy> irssi
[18:43] <jutnux> eMacs is about 3945035983459038 years old
[18:44] <jutnux> Geany is awesome.
[18:44] <jutnux> So i gEdit
[18:44]  * SolarisBoy vims
[18:44] <zykotick9> bassem_, xchat (NOT xchat-gnome) is popular for GUI, irssi if you want CLI
[18:46] <BernSamson> I have a question....how do you enable clicking on links in flash objects?
[18:46] <StepNjump> Sorry for repeating myself: Hi I installed hplip (the drivers for my HP printer) and just found out after deleting all the files in my ~/download folder that some of those files in there belonged to the HPLIP install.. ooops... As it was deleted with nautilus, there's no way to do CTRL-Z so what should I do now? Just reinstall HPLIP on top of itself or should I try to desinstall first?
[18:46] <zykotick9> bassem_, just include my NICK in your message and I'll get highlighted (you can use TAB to autocomplete Nicks)
[18:46] <benignbala> zykotick9: Let's say I am trying a toy OS, it is much easier to create a bin file and a .bochsrc and launch bochs. Can we do it that easy with VBox as well ?
[18:46] <zykotick9> bassem_, "sudo apt-get install xchat" would be one way
[18:47] <bassem_> zykotick9: ok thanks so how to download a good irc client
[18:47] <apctr> hello every one
[18:47] <Gentoo64> same as any package
[18:47] <zykotick9> bassem_, see my message above
[18:47] <apctr> any one have idea
[18:47] <Gentoo64> apctr: you havent even asked a question
[18:48] <apctr> \??
[18:48] <apctr> about the c++ and oracle connection on ubuntu 9.10
[18:48] <Gentoo64> hello everyone, any one have idea
[18:48] <Gentoo64> ok
[18:48] <zykotick9> benignbala, sorry i don't remember bochs usage AT ALL - i basically got it working one or twice that's it.  VBox is very easy to use, and quite powerful.
[18:48] <bassem_> zykotick9: i guess i have to wait till the current install is done
[18:48] <zykotick9> bassem_, yup - you can only install one thing at a time with APT
[18:48] <zykotick9> !pm | bassem_ FYI
[18:48] <benignbala> zykotick9: Oh, ok. Will try with VBox then
[18:49] <zykotick9> benignbala, is this for testing deskstop OSs or for server use?
[18:49] <ssfdre38> hey where are the MySQL header files located at to install php 5.3.8 from source
[18:50] <ivali> How can i disable X on ubuntu startup? I don't need it most of the time
[18:50] <iceroot> !nox | ivali
[18:50] <ivali> thank you
[18:50] <benignbala> zykotick9: I am just trying to create a toy os for fun. :) nothing serious
[18:51] <pikaciu> bye
[18:51] <zykotick9> iceroot, do you happen to know, can Lightdm be disabled from /etc/init/ simply by renaming the file to foo.disabled (like you could with GDM)?
[18:51] <zykotick9> benignbala, vbox will be an excellent choice then.
[18:51] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: why not?
[18:51] <Gentoo64> if it cant find the file to start...
[18:51] <iceroot> zykotick9: never tried
[18:52] <benignbala> zykotick9: Sure, Thanks.
[18:52] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, i was just wondering if it had been tried, seems a lot easier then the whole kernel nox directions
[18:53] <Gentoo64> well the kernel line on boot would probably be easier
[18:53] <Gentoo64> or about the same amount of pain
[18:53] <Gentoo64> what about apt-get purge lightdm and just use startx?
[18:53] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, that's a little more then disabling isn't it
[18:54] <Gentoo64> yeah
[18:54] <benignbala> Gentoo64: if we use insserv, cant we just edit the start/stop levels ?
[18:54] <Gentoo64> but if most of the time he dont use x
[18:54] <Gentoo64> then he might as well use startx
[18:54] <Gentoo64> its not disabling x in any way
[18:56] <BernSamson> Could someone help me? I'm wanting to be able to click on links and such in flash objects on 11.10 Ocelot...is there a plugin or something I need to be able to do that on such sites as Blogtv?
[18:56] <strange> hey guys my box restarted and it changed ip is there a way for nmap to scan a range of ips for a specific port being open so i can find my box back?
[18:56] <Gentoo64> yeah
[18:57] <strange> or maybe a script to try and wget a specific file from a list of ips to see if its there?
[18:57] <strange> either would work
[18:57] <Gentoo64> strange: nmap -p 80 123.456.789
[18:57] <Gentoo64> etc
[18:57] <Michiellllaptop> i installed gnome-panel but it's not the same as the classic theme in v10
[18:57] <strange> Gentoo64,  that would scan 123.456.789.* ?
[18:57] <Gentoo64> seperate ips with commas or use 12-34
[18:57] <Michiellllaptop> any other ways i can get it?
[18:58] <benignbala> strange: for a range of IPs do nmap  1.2.3.1-10. Will scan 1.2.3.1 to 1.2.3.10
[18:58] <renson> anybody who knows how to remove the lock file?
[18:58] <Gentoo64> strange: try just typing nmap with no arguments its the help screen
[18:59] <zykotick9> !aptlock | renson
[18:59] <ArmyMan007> hello... I'm having a problem with my update manager, it won't update the following (look at the 1st screenshot). When I try to update the following updates, it comes up with a strange message (look at the 2nd screenshot). What should I do? http://www.mediafire.com/?w7l4one54y9ordq,aauvlqpfp63ta43
[18:59] <bassem__> zykotick9, ok i got xchat thanks
[19:00] <bassem__> how can i install my web-cam driver?
[19:00] <Quantum_Ion> It's Thanksgiving most people are home with their families
[19:00] <zykotick9> ArmyMan007, have you tried from CLI?  "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[19:01] <zykotick9> bassem__, does your webcam work in "cheese"?
[19:01] <Quantum_Ion> Cheese is very buggy
[19:01] <ArmyMan007> zykotick9, working on it, just a sec
[19:01] <bassem__> zykotick9, what do you mean cheese?
[19:01] <zykotick9> bassem__, it's a program - that usually works with webcams OOTB
[19:02] <bassem__> zykotick9, i dont know how can i find out?
[19:02] <zykotick9> bassem__, install it and see.
[19:02] <benignbala> bassem__: Install cheese and check it out
[19:03] <bassem__> zykotick9, will it work without installing the web-cam driver?
[19:03] <zykotick9> bassem__, maybe?
[19:03] <ArmyMan007> zykotick9, nope, still the same problem
[19:03] <bassem__> zykotick9, how to install cheese?
[19:03] <zykotick9> ArmyMan007, could you pastebin the error you're getting from cli.
[19:03] <ArmyMan007> http://www.mediafire.com/?w7l4one54y9ordq,aauvlqpfp63ta43
[19:03] <zykotick9> bassem__, "sudo apt-get install cheese" or use USC
[19:04] <ArmyMan007> zykotick9,  refer to link: http://www.mediafire.com/?w7l4one54y9ordq,aauvlqpfp63ta43 (2nd screenshot_
[19:04] <ArmyMan007> zykotick9,  refer to link: http://www.mediafire.com/?w7l4one54y9ordq,aauvlqpfp63ta43 (2nd screenshot)
[19:04] <zykotick9> ArmyMan007, ya i already saw those... well perhaps someone else can help you.
[19:05] <StepNjump> After using sudo for a command, how can I tell the system to come right back at the normal user's permission (in sudo -i, one can always revert back by logout)
[19:05] <zykotick9> StepNjump, "exit"
[19:06] <StepNjump> zykotick9 ok thanks I appreciate it
 close all applications and run "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:06] <llutz> StepNjump: no need, as soon as you're back to terminal, you're working with user-rights
[19:06] <StepNjump> I thought it was just exiting out of the terminal
[19:06] <ArmyMan007> ok...
[19:06] <ArmyMan007> so, no one can help me out around here?
[19:06] <mercury1> Armyman007 I just gave you the answer?
[19:07] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, sorry, didn't notice
[19:07] <ArmyMan007> hang on a sec
[19:08] <zykotick9> mercury1, FYI you should be able to use TAB to autocomplete Nicks (will allow the other person to get highlights)
[19:08] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, ok... what now?
[19:08] <mercury1> zykotick9, I know
[19:08] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, did the command run succesfully?
[19:09] <file_> hello, I need your help. I did an apt-get install mysql-server but its not asking me for a password and itherefore i dont know how to log into my database
[19:09] <ArmyMan007> yes, but it asks me to preform a apt-get autoremove to remove a no longer required package
[19:09] <mercury1> file_ You still have to configure the server yourself, apt-get install only installs the base files
[19:10] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, you can do that, or you can ignore it
[19:10] <benignbala> file_: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ?
[19:10] <file_> benignbala: tried that
[19:10] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, I assume you want to update: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:10] <file_> benignbala: did nothing
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> you can start with --skip-grant-tables
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> manually and set the password and flush the tables
[19:10] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, already did both of these
[19:10] <koo1> hello
[19:11] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, what happens if you run those again now
[19:11] <file_> mercury1: how can i configure the password ?
[19:11] <benignbala> file_: So, when you do sudo mysql ,it prompts for a password ?
[19:11] <mercury1> file_ Did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1       ?
[19:12] <SolarisBoy> file_: how are you trying to connect to mysql? are you using mysql client command line with -p?
[19:12] <file_> mercury1: yay that did it thanks alot
[19:12] <llutz> benignbala: use mysql -u root -p   , not sudo mysql
[19:12] <mercury1> file_ No problem :)
[19:12] <ArmyMan007> update - failed to fetch some packeges, upgrade - shows all 6 packeges to upgrade, with a note that index files are corropted
[19:12] <rhizmoe> how do i prevent shotwell from starting every time i plug my phone in?
[19:12] <ArmyMan007> for file ca-certufucates
[19:13] <ArmyMan007> for file ca-certificates
[19:13] <SolarisBoy> afaik mysql doesn't install a password for the root user on ubuntu it prompts you to set it after you install the pkg =(
[19:13] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, ok, do this now: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:13] <mercury1> it will refresh downloaded packages
[19:13] <mercury1> so you (hopefully) wont have corrupted files
[19:13] <benignbala> llutz: Oh, sudo mysql works too. when we do sudo mysql, what will be the username then ?
[19:13] <SolarisBoy> by default your username that you are i believe unless you specify -u
[19:13] <mercury1> benignbala, he already fixed it lol
[19:14] <ArmyMan007> ok.. working on it
[19:14] <llutz> benignbala: also root, but you don't use sudo if no need
[19:14] <benignbala> mercury1: I knew that. I was responding to llutz comment.
[19:14] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, although clean command didn't give me any indication of some sort
[19:14] <SolarisBoy> heh
[19:14] <benignbala> llutz: Oh, ok got it :)
[19:14] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, the clean command doesnt give any output
[19:14] <mercury1> thats normal
[19:14] <ArmyMan007> nope
[19:15] <ArmyMan007> still got corrupted message
[19:15] <mercury1> Can you paste the exact output to pastebin.com ?
[19:15] <ArmyMan007> of what? or the entire terminal?
[19:15] <ArmyMan007> starting from which command?
[19:15] <mercury1> starting from the last command you ran
[19:15] <ArmyMan007> update or upgrade?
[19:16] <mercury1> upgrade
[19:16] <ArmyMan007> upgrade was last one
[19:16] <ArmyMan007> k
[19:16] <renson> seems not to be do anything
[19:16] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, http://pastebin.com/WpJvCYG0
[19:17] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which seems strange
[19:18] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, ok, I found the solution
[19:18] <mercury1> run this: sudo ls -a /var/lib/apt
[19:18] <mercury1> and paste that output to pastebin.net
[19:19] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, http://pastebin.com/wKiJtMPy
[19:19] <renson> ubottu,seems not to be doing anything
[19:19] <renson> ok
[19:19] <ArmyMan007> ubottu, hello :)
[19:20] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, do you have any special software sources configured yet?
[19:21] <trinimoses> hi all
[19:21] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, or did you not yet change anything in the Software Sources?
[19:21] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, nope... just had a complete installation after deleting ubuntu 11.10
[19:21] <trinimoses> anyone here using mod_proxy ?
[19:21] <renson> zykotick9, yes
[19:21] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, only selected best server, nothing else changed
[19:22] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, ok then, do: sudo mv /var/lib/apt/ /var/lib/apt.backup && sudo rm -f -R /var/lib/apt/
[19:22] <recon69_lap> Hi everyone, got firefox not closing properly and think that java vm i installed migh be the cause, i'v removed sun java vm, can i remove java common or is it needed
[19:22] <resistorr> I'm having some issues with a makefile that used to work under 11.04.  It seems that if I use g++ and link libraries, the libraries have to be at the back of the command with the new gcc arrangement.  But my old makefiles that use LDFLAGS no longer compile things.  Any GNU make experts know what the proper makefile fix it?  I see a lot of web posts on autotools using LDADD instead of LDFLAGS.
[19:23] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, make sure to not misspell anything
[19:23] <mercury1> trinimoses, on lighttpd ?
[19:23] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, copy-paste is the only friend I need :)
[19:23] <zykotick9> renson, yes?
[19:23] <rhizmoe> what handles the automount stuff when devices are plugged into the computer?
[19:24] <renson> APT crashed
[19:24] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, then do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:24] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, udev eventually, but there are some higher level stuff first
[19:24] <rhizmoe> zykotick9: such as? i'm trying to disable shotwell crap.
[19:24] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, I'm right now changing the main server for ubuntu updates.. it's downloading package information, holding on for a while, maybe that will work
[19:25] <mercury1> you can try that too
[19:25] <rhizmoe> just looking for places to look. i'm fine with command line.
[19:25] <resistorr> other people seem to have similar problems with completely different packages, http://osdir.com/ml/sage-devel/2011-09/msg00035.html
[19:25] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, fuse through gnome - but to disable shotwell, Nautilus - Edit / Preferences - Media tab i believe
[19:25] <rhizmoe> if you don't think you're getting enough updates, just wait a couple days and there will be 50 more!
[19:25] <rhizmoe> zykotick9: i'm using gnome classic, whose nautilus does not include that tab.
[19:26] <rhizmoe> "who's?" what a drag it is getting old.
[19:26] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, sorry - i forget about Gnome3.  I have no idea, good luck.
[19:26] <rhizmoe> anyway, that's why i'm looking for the sub-gui mechanism
[19:27] <rhizmoe> this really shouldn't be called an official channel
[19:27] <rhizmoe> (nothing personal, zykotick9!)
[19:27] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, sometimes mirror servers have errors in a file, which can lead to this
[19:27] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, working on your solution, hang a sec..
[19:28] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, but changing the main server and reloading can be the solution too
[19:28] <mercury1> try that first
[19:28] <renson> zykotick9, help me remove the lock file pls
[19:28] <zykotick9> !apt-lock | renson
[19:28] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, it didn't, the updates were 0bytes, so that didn't help
[19:28] <renson> yeah
[19:28] <zykotick9> !aptlock | renson
[19:29] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, then do this: sudo mv /var/lib/apt/ /var/lib/apt.backup
[19:29] <mercury1> and then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:29] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, already working on your solution, still waiting for update to finish
[19:29] <mercury1> ok
[19:29] <mercury1> :)
[19:29] <ArmyMan007> :)
[19:29] <ArmyMan007> btw, thanks a bunch for helping out :D
[19:29] <mercury1> I have 120mbit connection at home
[19:29] <mercury1> dont quite understand "waiting for update" :P
[19:29] <renson> zykotick9, apt lock  yes
[19:30] <crash82> mercury1, 120mbps ?
[19:30] <ArmyMan007> I got 5mb... and it still works like a 750k..
[19:30] <ArmyMan007> hey, has anyone heard of ninja tuna?
[19:30] <renson> ubottu, that didn't work
[19:30] <mercury1> crash82, yeah, if Id move a few miles I could get 500 mbps :/
[19:31] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, it's downloading stuff, I bet you're on the right track here! :)
[19:31] <mercury1> renson, ubottu is just a bot that displays information if you say a specific command ;)
[19:32] <scorinitron> ubuntunoob, you their?
[19:32] <renson> mercury1, ok
[19:32] <ArmyMan007> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHAb92E31E
[19:33] <renson> mercury1, but that did not work
[19:33] <mercury1> renson, can you upload the output info of the terminal to pastebin.com ?
[19:33] <scorinitron> Hey everybody! Morning/Afternoon (depends on what time zone your in)
[19:34] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, http://pastebin.com/17YaKyU5
[19:34] <mercury1> press y
[19:34] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, I think that was the reason it didn't work
[19:34] <razzi> excuse my ignorance, but can anyone tell me what is the easiest way to install lamp on ubuntu?
[19:34] <scorinitron> sudo apt-get install lamp ?
[19:34] <pangolin> !lamp
[19:34] <zykotick9> rhizmoe, it didn't take me long to find that option in Gnome3. It's there.
[19:35] <razzi> scorinitron, how can i open a console?
[19:35] <scorinitron> Ctrl Alt T
[19:35] <scorinitron> razzi, I'm not sure about that command thou i just guessed cause it seems to work with everything else XD
[19:36] <scorinitron> *though
[19:36] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, Jackpot baby! :)
[19:36] <mercury1> :)
[19:36] <ArmyMan007> :)
[19:36] <razzi> thanks
[19:36] <mercury1> razzi: the command sudo apt-get install lamp   will not work
[19:36] <ArmyMan007> thanks a bunch! but if it happens next time? redo the process?
[19:37] <scorinitron> razzi, I figured... let me google it I'll find it for you
[19:37] <mercury1> ArmyMan007, it will probably wont happen again
[19:37] <mercury1> razzi: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[19:37] <WinCamXP-Phone> I've had a problem with KDE on ubuntu 11.10. I installed it from the software center and it starts up fine, but after maybe a minute the images on the desktop start having trouble updating
[19:37] <ArmyMan007> mercury1, ok... again, thanks a bunch! :D
[19:37] <mercury1> no problem :)
[19:37] <scorinitron> razzi, go here http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/11/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1110.html
[19:38] <mercury1> razzi, thats pretty good too ^
[19:38] <WinCamXP-Phone> anyone know what my problem is?
[19:39] <zonema> is dns zone transfer a bug that shuold newer be on, or?
[19:40] <WinCamXP-Phone> I'm not a big fan of Unity, so I installed the kde-standard package (or was it kde-default?)
[19:40] <Michiellllaptop> any chance on getting the actual classic desktop back like in the previous version? not just this gnome-panel
[19:40] <zykotick9> WinCamXP-Phone, you might want to ask in  #kubuntu - they're probably more familiar with KDE issues.
[19:41] <WinCamXP-Phone> it works fine until a minute or so in, when the pictures on everything stop updati g coreectly
[19:41] <ssfdre38> how can i get the mysql dev files installed/
[19:41] <WinCamXP-Phone> ahh, okay
[19:41] <silare> I like the Ubuntu 11.10's Grid effect (if you move a window to the side of the screen, it shows the outline of the window being grown), but 11.10 has lots of issues for me.
[19:41] <silare> Is there a way to get 11.10's grid effect in 11.04?
[19:42] <scorinitron> I just installed xubuntu and
[19:43] <scorinitron> wanted to know how do I install themes?
[19:43] <dmtarmey> hello what channel can i get wine help pls
[19:43] <scorinitron> #wine
[19:43] <scorinitron> ?
[19:43] <scorinitron> maybe
[19:43] <mercury1> #winehq
[19:43] <scorinitron> #winehq
[19:44] <dmtarmey> i tried that it said i was kicked of by chathost invotes only
[19:44] <scorinitron> jezz
[19:44] <zykotick9> !register | dmtarmey
[19:45] <alessandro97> hi
[19:45] <alessandro97> !
[19:47] <norpan> How can i use samba application to stream movies to my 360 ?
[19:48] <zykotick9> !upnp | norpan i'm not sure you can with samba.
[19:49] <ssfdre38> where is the mysql.h file located at
[19:49] <norpan> !info mediatomb
[19:49] <norpan> aha!
[19:49] <scorinitron> does anyone know Gentoo64
[19:50] <Sorikan> What apt-get package has mail? I am running 10.04, Thanks
[19:50] <unop> ssfdre38, /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h 	libmysqlclient-dev
[19:50] <scorinitron> How do you run a 24 hour chat?
[19:51] <unop> Sorikan, exim  -- which should be installed by default
[19:53] <mercury1> scorinitron, what do you mean with 24 hour chat?
[19:53] <scorinitron> well I have a friend rypervenche who can stay on all day all night
[19:53] <BernSamson> If I wanted to install GNU flash player...and have Adobe Flash...
[19:53] <scorinitron> and he somehow set it up that way
[19:54] <BernSamson> should I uninstall Adobe?
[19:54] <llutz> scorinitron: get a bouncer-account
[19:54] <scorinitron> what's a bouncer account?
[19:54] <BernSamson> or will Adobe flash and Gnash player behave well together?
[19:54] <llutz> scorinitron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
[19:54] <zykotick9> BernSamson, having more then one flash usually leads to problems actually
[19:56] <BernSamson> zyko: I'm noticing that on sites such as blogtv, I'm not able to click on links within the flash chat object...and was wondering if it was a settings problem or a brokenness in 11.10 thats not supporting it. is there a way to enable that or should I find nother flash handler?
[19:58] <norpan> how the F*** do you use mediatomb then, im in the web interface but i understand jack lol
[19:58] <zykotick9> BernSamson, sorry I wouldn't know - good luck.
[19:58] <scorinitron> Thanks llutz
[19:59] <scorinitron> I wish I learned about BNC's before I walked into #backtrack's hornet's nest... I really appreciate the info
[20:00] <drmacro> How do I get an xinput command to execute at login?
[20:00] <killown> does anyone know how can I get dual monitor in unity with nvidia card?
[20:00] <zak_> Hi, I run 11.10 server with xubuntu desktop via a not-so-good kvm switch. Is there a way to get ubuntu to recognize the full resolution of the monitor (1280x1024, not 1024x768)?
[20:02] <darkstar999> My keyboard mute button is good at muting, but it doesn't unmute. It worked fine on ubuntu and windows. Any ideas? (#xubuntu is dead, trying it here)
[20:03] <BernSamson> went in and tweaked some of the settings...hopefully auto-allow works
[20:06] <zak_> can i use xrandr to force the resolution, or do I need to edit xorg.conf?
[20:08] <root__> hello
[20:09] <etzerd> hello all
[20:09] <zykotick9> root__, FYI using IRC as root isn't the best idea (also tells us you've enabled the root account, an ubuntu no-no)
[20:09] <etzerd> how to install ubuntu extra?
[20:09] <zykotick9> etzerd, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" you mean?
[20:10] <etzerd> yes
[20:10] <zykotick9> etzerd, use tab completion on that, i'm not sure if it's extra or extras
[20:10] <capcook> what are the restricted extras?
[20:10] <zykotick9> capcook, codecs/flash/java/etc
[20:10] <relik> hello i need help! I have a samsung nc10 netbook and updated to the latest ubuntu version. But now my keyboard doesn't seem to work. When i type "E" i get "aer" and random things. How can i fix this? I am forced to use an external keyboard :(
[20:11] <capcook> ah ok, thanks
[20:11] <root__> i need help with a wep key i decrypted and it wont connect
[20:11] <norpan> HOw do i configure ushare to work with my 360? i done according to this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media#Configuration , but it still does not show up in xbox
[20:11] <scorinitron> ...root your screwed...
[20:11] <llutz> rob__: ask you neighbour to allow you to connect
[20:12] <scorinitron> your logged into an IRC using a root account with your IP for all the world to see...
[20:12] <zykotick9> scorinitron, they're gone
[20:12] <scorinitron> XD
[20:12] <relik> how can i configure/fix keyboard driver related issues?
[20:13] <geoffmcc> norpan: have you opened the ports in ufw if you have it going, also maybe port forwarding on the router too
[20:14] <scorinitron> zykotick9, I'm trying to secure my system...what would be the best way to start...
[20:14] <norpan> geoffmcc: i saw that i havent specified a port in ushare.. maybe thats whats wrong. bad part is that i always have differnet ip, so portforward will fail if my pc start up before the xbox and viceversa?
[20:14] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which seems strange
[20:14] <geoffmcc> norpan: give your ubuntu box a static ip
[20:14] <silare> I like the Ubuntu 11.10's Grid effect (if you move a window to the side of the screen, it shows the outline of the window being grown), but 11.10 has lots of issues for me.
[20:14] <silare> Is there a way to get 11.10's grid effect in 11.04?
[20:14] <zykotick9> scorinitron, ? that's to broad a question.  Disable any unneeded services... install a firewall... there are several options.
[20:15] <zykotick9> scorinitron, but OOTB ubuntu should be somewhat secure, without any running services
[20:15] <geoffmcc> norpan: according to link u gave, config shows ushare should be on port 49200 with a telnet port of 1337
[20:15] <scorinitron> zykotick9, thing is I just got off of windows a while back... so I don't know what to download and where to start...
[20:16] <zykotick9> scorinitron, the first thing you should understand then, if ubuntu is basically secure OOTB - you'd need to do things to make it unsecured (this is NOT windows ;)
[20:16] <norpan> geoffmcc: yes i have recently filled that out, and opened the port in router. Still gives nothing.. it was working with ps3mediaserver but that did not give me nice results.. i was unable to add movies if i downloaded a new one for instanse..that would not show up. Just the old library when i installed the server
[20:17] <scorinitron> zykotick9, ok how about hiding my connection so I don
[20:17] <geoffmcc> norpan: do you have a firewall on ubuntu?
[20:17] <norpan> geoffmcc: not that i know of, its a fresh install!
[20:17] <scorinitron> zykotick9, ok how about hiding my connection so I don't have to connect directly?
[20:17] <zykotick9> !info ufw | scorinitron
[20:18] <geoffmcc> norpan: ok, lets make sure ufw is not running. go to term and run sudo ufw status
[20:18] <zykotick9> scorinitron, do you mean in IRC?
[20:18] <scorinitron> yeah
[20:18] <zykotick9> !cloak | scorinitron
[20:18] <slava_> hello american obama bastards
[20:18] <slava_> fuck you
[20:18] <zykotick9> !ops | slava was just a problem in #debian
[20:19] <slava_> i hate hate you
[20:19] <relik> can someone please help me
[20:19] <slava_> yes
[20:19] <Flannel> slava_: Good to know.  Please leave or behave.
[20:19] <norpan> geoffmcc: its disabled..
[20:19] <relik> in ubuntu latest version when i press one button 5 or 6 characters will be shown
[20:19] <geoffmcc> norpan: hmm.
[20:19] <slava_> america can give you some democratic
[20:20] <darkstar999> slava_: dude. stop
[20:20] <slava_> fuck the obama
[20:20] <relik> is there some #ubuntu support channel where i can request help?
[20:20] <darkstar999> relik: you are here. ask away
[20:20] <slava_> stop
[20:20] <geoffmcc> norpan: im just trying to think of all the things it could be, are you sure the network card is eth0
[20:20] <relik> darkstar999: i have samsung nc10 and upgraded ubuntu now the keyboard doesn't work
[20:20] <slava_> obama bastard
[20:20] <norpan> geoffmcc: allthou im using wlan0 ?
[20:20] <relik> instead of e the characters aeefs are written and so on
[20:21] <darkstar999> relik: have you checked your keyboard settings?
[20:21] <geoffmcc> norpan: ok. that link u gave had a config file in it, did u just copy paste it, or did u change their eth0 to wlan0 to suite your needs
[20:21] <darkstar999> relik: it might be set for a different language
[20:21] <relik> darkstar999: well i checked it and it displays US settings
[20:21] <geoffmcc> norpan: also, does ushare give any errors when starts or anything
[20:21] <relik> so this is good
[20:21] <norpan> geoffmcc: i changed to wlan0 to suit my needs :P
[20:22] <norpan> geoffmcc: no it just says "ok"
[20:22] <rewrew> Hey guys, I'm stupid enough to delete my /etc/skel folder. I can't find it anywhere on the internet. Could someone please tar his up and upload it somewhere? :/ Thanks a bunch!
[20:23] <Slart> rewrew: my /etc/skel has just one file.. examples.desktop   which I think you can live without
[20:23] <geoffmcc> norpan: does your router have a upnp setting
[20:23] <darkstar999> relik: Maybe try changing it to a different language then back to US?
[20:24] <relik> ok i will try that
[20:24] <relik> a remote keyboard works fine
[20:24] <geoffmcc> norpan: also, it looks like it may use udp, when you forwarded the ports did u happen to maybe choose tcp
[20:24] <chavov_> Slart: it has hidden files as well default .bashrc, etc.
[20:24] <norpan> geoffmcc: well, its working with ps3mediaserver and runs fine in win7 so i just belive its the ubuntu install..and i have never came cross such a setting in the router but i can check
[20:25] <norpan> geoffmcc: i choose tcp/udp...
[20:25] <Slart> chavov_: ah.. my bad
[20:25] <zykotick9> rewrew, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash" might help
[20:25] <geoffmcc> norpan: yea, i only suggested that cause i see some other people mentioning other ports in some posts, so if there is something that should be forwarded and you missed it upnp would catch it
[20:26] <rewrew> just a list of files would do though
[20:26] <rewrew> I could copy them from my home dir then
[20:26] <geoffmcc> norpan: i dont like to keep it on on my router though, i turn it on as needed, it shows me what connected and then i manually forward ports and turn off.
[20:26] <zykotick9> !virus > scorinitron
[20:26] <geoffmcc> norpan: sorry couldnt be more help.
[20:26] <norpan> geoffmcc: :( thank you for trying!
[20:27] <chavov_> rewrew: it's .bash_logout, .bashrc, .profile, .Xdefaults and examples.desktop
[20:27] <rewrew> chavov_,zykotick9: Thank you
[20:27] <darkstar999> is there a list of ubottu commands?
[20:28] <zykotick9> darkstar999, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[20:28] <darkstar999> thanks zykotick9
[20:28] <darkstar999> cgi?!
[20:28] <darkstar999> haha
[20:29] <relik> [Bvbvbvbvbvbvbfvbfvbfvbfvbfaa
[20:29] <relik> still the same problem
[20:29] <relik> it seems like each character triggers multtiple keys
[20:33] <JoeMofknDot> hi  i'm looking for a cheap usb video capture device that is compatible with ubuntu with easy set up
[20:33] <darkstar999> relik: do you have num lock on?
[20:33] <darkstar999> JoeMofknDot: how cheap?
[20:34] <JoeMofknDot> anything under $100
[20:34] <norpan> How do i configure ushare to work with my xbox360? im on the edge of crying now
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> what is ushare?
[20:35] <darkstar999> JoeMofknDot: anything by logitech is good and should work with no problems
[20:35] <norpan> pragmaticenigma: upnp service..
[20:35] <relik> darkstar999: no
[20:35] <pragmaticenigma> Doesn't the XBOX 360 support Samba file shares?
[20:36] <lonejack> hi, it is no longer possible to write on my usb key
[20:36] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which seems strange
[20:36] <lonejack> any idea?
[20:36] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: how old is the USB drive?
[20:36] <magikfingerz> lonejack: delete some files... :)
[20:37] <darkstar999> relik: I can't find anything to help you with, but here's the wiki dedicated to your netbook https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NC10
[20:38] <pragmaticenigma> norpan: Have you checked the wiki's available out there?
[20:38] <JoeMofknDot> darkstar999: ok have you seen the usb video capture card from monoprice i was also wondering if anyone has tries it because it has linux in the name
[20:38] <JoeMofknDot> tried*
[20:38] <norpan> pragmaticenigma: yes! i have followed a nice guide, but i still does not make it work : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media#Configuration
[20:38] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: Your drive is either full, damaged, or no longer can be written to because the chips maxed out on the number of writes
[20:39] <darkstar999> JoeMofknDot: nope. are you looking for video capture or a webcam?
[20:39] <brontosaurusrex> JoeMofknDot, blackmagic maybe?
[20:39] <meerkats> how do I apply a patch to a source file?
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> norpan: what about the developer site? http://ushare.geexbox.org/
[20:39] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, isn't full(50% used)
[20:39] <hc96> Hi! Is there some functionality that shows me which system files differ from the default version in the packages? (meaning I have modified them)
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: How old is the drive?
[20:40] <llutz> hc96: config files?
[20:40] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, I suppose at least 4 years
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: It is possible if you use the drive to move a lot of files around that you have maxed out it;s life... USB drives and solid state drives have a finite number of times you can write data to it
[20:41] <hc96> llutz: yes, mainly those in /etc
[20:41] <JoeMofknDot> darkstar999: video capture i just looked at it it doesn't say linux but here's a link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10810&cs_id=1081003&p_id=1882&seq=1&format=2
[20:41] <llutz> hc96: dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' '*' | awk 'OFS="  "{print $2,$1}' | md5sum -c 2>/dev/null | awk -F': ' '$2 !~ /OK/{print $1}'
[20:41] <timmy> test
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: However, have you trried the usb drive on another computer, or in another USB port?
[20:42] <hc96> llutz: ok... gonna try that
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> JoeMofknDot, http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/techspecs/
[20:42] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, no I'll do in a minute
[20:43] <JoeMofknDot> brontosaurusrex: thanks i'll look now
[20:43] <koo1> does anyone use a monochrome crt with colorful console programs?
[20:43] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, but what I want to do are operations that I did hundreds time in the past...
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: like what?
[20:44] <brontosaurusrex> JoeMofknDot, what kind of signal do you need to capture btw?
[20:45] <timmy> how old is xchat 2.8.6?
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> timmy: if it works, why worry?
[20:45] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, connect the key, download files, delete, etc...
[20:45] <llutz> timmy:  11-Jun-2008
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> timmy: 2.8.8 is what I am running
[20:46] <timmy> lol because i do not want an obselete version
[20:46] <timmy> im running ubuntu 10.04
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: I'm guess you have worn out the ability of your USB drive to have files written to it... you will need to purchase a new one
[20:46] <hc96> llutz: what does the '*' in the command do? seems dpkg-query also works without it?
[20:46] <magikfingerz> timmy: pragmaticenigma is right... unless you are looking for a new feature not included in your version, or a critical patch, there is not valid reason to upgrade...
[20:47] <timmy> i understand that
[20:47] <JoeMofknDot> brontosaurusrex: it would be most convenient if it was hdmi
[20:47] <timmy> this version works fine
[20:48] <timmy> i might uprade to ubuntu 10.10
[20:48] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, flash memories can be written at least 100000 times
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> timmy: the latest version may have a new feature to it... but you really shouldn't worry... Ubuntu developers will make sure any security patches are applied if needed
[20:48] <timmy> but that isnt lts
[20:48] <llutz> hc96: then its obsolete. its not _my_ command, i just found it somewhere some time ago
[20:48] <timmy> okay
[20:48] <relik> how can i change keyboard driver?
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> lonejack: You have had the drive for 4 years... it is possible that if you move a lot of files on and off your drive that you have exceeded that limit
[20:49] <hc96> llutz: ok. cause I'm currently trying to understand it :)
[20:49] <relik> when i type a character multiple characters will be shown. i think this is a low level error on samsung nc10 +latest version ubuntu
[20:49]  * relik is thinking about going back to windows XP :
[20:49] <magikfingerz> relik: the multiple characters are the same? or different...
[20:49] <of2vil> hello, is there any chance to find a package for thunderbird 8 compatible to ubuntu 11.10 without compiling it myself?
[20:50] <timmy> that should be in the repos
[20:50] <relik> magikfingerz: for each character you have a different set of characters
[20:50] <of2vil> timmy: no there is only thunderbird 7 or 9beta
[20:50] <timmy> add the thunderbird stable repos then
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: they will release a new version of thunderbird in the repos when they have finished making a compatible version for Ubuntu
[20:50] <timmy> via ppa
[20:51] <lonejack> pragmaticenigma, anyway.. thank you
[20:51] <timmy> im running firefox 8
[20:51] <magikfingerz> relik: it sounds me like a keymap problem... What keyboard distribution you have? english, spanish, greek?
[20:51] <timmy> on 10.04
[20:51] <pragmaticenigma> timmy: the thunderbird ppa is only for 10.04 and older
[20:51] <relik> magikfingerz: i have samsung nc10 and i have english US
[20:51] <timmy> woot
[20:51] <timmy> XD
[20:52] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: yeah, but i am wondering since thunderbird 8 has been in the precise repository for some time
[20:53] <of2vil> are there any snapshots of older package versions?
[20:53] <timmy> hey how do you install the latest java
[20:53] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: that is because 12.04 is still in developement and it doesn't make sence for them to start with 7 if 8 is available
[20:53] <timmy> the recomend version
[20:53] <timmy> ?
[20:53] <hc96> llutz: unfortunately that does not relly work, e.g. /etc/hosts is not in the list
[20:53] <pragmaticenigma> they just released firefox 8 in the last week, when mozilla released it a few weeks ago
[20:53] <hc96> llutz: dpkg-query even does not write it to stdout
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: Ubuntu will release Thunderbird 8... I don't see any reason to try and force an install, there isn't anything major between 7 and 8 that you are going to need this exact moment
[20:54] <Quantum_Ion> pragmaticenigma, Yeah I know
[20:54] <llutz> hc96: it only works if the config file was shipped with a package and listed in *.conffile
[20:54] <Quantum_Ion> People should wait a while on upgrades
[20:54] <silare> I like the Ubuntu 11.10's Grid effect (if you move a window to the side of the screen, it shows the outline of the window being grown), but 11.10 has lots of issues for me.
[20:54] <silare> Is there a way to get 11.10's grid effect in 11.04?
[20:54] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: in fact i do since i have some compatibility problems with thunderbird7/lightning and an davical server
[20:55] <Quantum_Ion> silare, Just wait for the LTS releases
[20:55] <llutz> hc96: /etc/hosts is dynamically generated at installation-time
[20:55] <timmy> can anybody help me?
[20:55] <magikfingerz> relik: OK, what desktop do you have...? GNOME, XFCE?
[20:55] <silare> Quantum_Ion: There's basically no way to move Compiz plugins back and forth?
[20:55] <benjib> Hi, is anyone willing to help me with an nfs issue?
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> perhaps someone here can help solve the issue.. upgrades don't necassarily mean it will get fixed
[20:55] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: but ill just wait :)
[20:55] <relik> i have standard ubuntu
[20:55] <relik> so gnome
[20:56] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: I use Thunderbird 7 with lightning, perhaps I can help you
[20:56] <hc96> llutz: hm... but in my opinion if there were a package that wants to change /etc/hosts I'll be asked what I want to do, since I have changed it manually. If I had left it at original state, I would not be asked.
[20:56] <llutz> hc96: less /var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.postinst
[20:57] <pragmaticenigma> silare: The feature you are looking at was something added for 11.10... it is not available in previous versions
[20:57] <magikfingerz> relik OK, so go to gnome control center and look for the keyboard option and check if there is the right keyboard chosen...
[20:58] <relik> magikfingerz: i did
[20:58] <magikfingerz> relik: In this case, US keyboard (Generic US Keyboard is OK)
[20:58] <relik> US keyboard is selected
[20:58] <hc96> llutz: same goes with /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:59] <johnny> hi there
[20:59] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: it just fails to create an event on that server and the log on the server doesnt say anything specific about the error - and it works fine with the newer version of thunderbird
[21:00] <magikfingerz> relik: OK, have you tried to check if this problem is present in console mode too?
[21:00] <Quantum_Ion> silare, Compiz plugins take up too much power
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> johnny / Guest1801 ... please pick a more unique name
[21:00] <relik> yes the same problem occures in console mode
[21:00] <Guest1801> yeh ! i will come with real one.. :))
[21:01] <silare> pragmaticenigma / Quantum_Ion : Hmm... So it's not so easy as just moving a few files back and forth? :/ Is there a way to make it so moving a window to the side gets that outline effect (not like 11.10's, but I lost my 11.04 one too).
[21:01] <llutz> hc96: that only works with packages coming with a <package>.conffiles   file. i'd suggest to use etckeeper/changetrack
[21:01] <Guest1801> ! register
[21:01] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: Are you by chance trying to use your own DAV server?
[21:01] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: i am
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> silare: you cannot just transfer files back and forth to get a feature... each program is compibled agasint the system kernel, and 11.04 and 11.10 do not use the same kernel
[21:03] <Guest1801> ! register
[21:03] <pragmaticenigma> of2vil: does your server acknowledge that a connection was made when you try to update the calendar?
[21:03] <silare> pragmaticenigma: Ah... Figures. Though I think 11.04 had a feature where if I move my window to the top of the screen it'd show the orange outline of a maximized window; I don't have that anymore. How do I re-enable it?
[21:03] <Guest1801> !register
[21:03] <M4rc3l> To register your nick type in /msg nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL  into the text box replacing PASSWORD and EMAIL with your own email and password.
[21:03] <pragmaticenigma> silare: it is in the compiz settings... I don't use Ubuntu Unity desktop (I use Xubuntu) so I don't know where that feature is located
[21:04] <Exxon> pragmaticenigma, now i am real :))
[21:04] <of2vil> pragmaticenigma: yes, reading the calender works just fine, but i am not able to create any events
[21:04] <pragmaticenigma> Exxon and soon to sink :-)
[21:04] <hc96> llutz: well, my problem is the following: I want to install to a new version of ubuntu, but I do not want to throw away my configuration I've done, so I have to save it before formatting. So I need to know what I modified :) As I read, etckeeper only shows what was changed since it's installed
[21:05] <Exxon> pragmaticenigma, simply forgot was on other distro now back..
[21:06] <pragmaticenigma> what version of lightning are you using?
[21:06] <magikfingerz> relik: have you tried this:? http://nc10ubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/what-i-did/
[21:07] <llutz> hc96: correct, so it won't help you now. best to have a log-file where you keep all your changes written down.
[21:07] <hc96> sure, next time :)
[21:07] <llutz> hc96: i guess you have to diff new config/old config now
[21:08] <horseatingweeds> I'm trying to run perl as cgi using this guide: http://www.blog.highub.com/perl/install-configure-apache-localhost-perl-on-linux-ubuntu/  But when I try accessing a .pl file, I get a 403 Forbidden. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I chmod 755 the .pl file.
[21:08] <hc96> llutz: well, I could install the new system in Virtual Box and then do a diff
[21:08] <clooluss> Please help!  Trying to access data on a laptop that will no longer boot into Ubuntu. I have booted from a live CD, and I can see the folders I need, but when I try to copy them it tells me that I don't have permission. Have tried it from command line with sudo but it makes no difference.
[21:09] <darkstar999> clooluss: have you tried chmodding the files?
[21:09] <Quantum_Ion> clooluss, Why wont it boot into Linux
[21:10] <clooluss> Won't boot because it comes up with some rubbish about "please correct gdm configuration." I've lost the sudo password for this machine
[21:11] <guntbert> clooluss: the sudo passord is your own password
[21:11] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: what was the last thing you did to your machine?
[21:11] <guntbert> *password
[21:11] <silare> Does anyone know where in the Compiz settings the configuration to change the outline colour for the Grid plugin is?
[21:12] <clooluss> My wife's machine. She was using as usual, next day, wouldn't boot. It needs a new OS anyway, I just want the data off it to reinstall but it won't let me have it!
[21:12] <Quantum_Ion> clooluss, You can repair it with the Linux DVD live disk
[21:12] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[21:12] <clooluss> Quantum_Ion: Go on...
[21:12] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: boot al ive cd and you will have access to the data on the drive and can transfer it to a new location
[21:13] <clooluss> pramatice; Trying that, it won't let me have the data because of file permissions
[21:13] <wolframn> Happy Thanksgiving #Ubuntu!
[21:13] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: are you able to view the files at all?
[21:14] <zykotick9> clooluss, is this some sort of encrypted filesystem or home directory?
[21:14] <Exxon> zykotick9, even if its encrypted with live dcd/cd we can retive the files.
[21:15] <zykotick9> Exxon, that's good - i just want to know if "I" want to get involved or not.
[21:16] <clooluss> not encrypted. I just tried sudo chmod of a single file, it allowed me to copy it over to an external HD. Will try that with the other files. Is there a way to mass-chmod everything in a folder and all subfolders? Also, as a live CD user, am I u, g or o?
[21:17] <guntbert> clooluss: when you chmod them all they will stay that way - might be a lot of work later
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: use this command:   find ./ -type f -execdir chmod a+rw {} \;
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> make sure you execute that from the home directory you are trying to recover
[21:18] <guntbert> pragmaticenigma: why not just chmod -R ... ?
[21:18] <clooluss> guntbert: Not a problem - because I have the same stupid problem with my external drive (can't write to the EXT partition because of file permissions) I will copy everything to a FAT partition, which will strip all the unixy file permissions off it.
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: plug a sudo in front too
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> guntbert: because that will also affect directories
[21:18] <guntbert> clooluss: I see ..
[21:19] <Exxon> clooluss, do you have the prblem with the grub did you dual install..just asking
[21:19] <guntbert> pragmaticenigma: good idea, didn't see it :)
[21:19] <clooluss> I am certain the file permission system is broken in later versions of Ubuntu.... I find it impossible to move / share files between users despite doing everything by the book
[21:19] <clooluss> not a dual boot. This machine has been running Ubuntu 7.10 since... well since 7.10
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> guntbert: I made that mistake before and then wondered why I couldn't access my directories... directories require execute permission for some reason
[21:20] <guntbert> pragmaticenigma: yes, x on directories means "can enter"
[21:21] <clooluss> so...  is      find ./ -type f -execdir chmod a+rw {} \;     still the recommended command?
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> I use the chmod command I posted a moment ago to make sure all my video files are in readonly mode... and they are all stored in subdirs... makes it reall fast and easy
[21:21] <llutz> pragmaticenigma: chmod -R a=rwX ./
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> yes clooluss
[21:22] <pragmaticenigma> llutz: how does that work?
[21:23] <llutz> pragmaticenigma: man chmod , X (uppercase) works only on directories (or files already have execute-bit set)
[21:24] <pragmaticenigma> llutz: neat... thanks for the tip
[21:26] <clooluss> find; missing argument to '-execdir'
[21:27] <nils_> seems like the update-grub script for grub1 always sets "quiet splash" in the kernel commandline. Any way to override that?
[21:28] <pragmaticenigma> clooluss: try the command llutz just posted:  sudo chmod -R a=rwX ./
[21:28] <pragmaticenigma> nils_: yes there is a way to override this ... give me amoment to find the config file
[21:28] <guntbert> nils look at the top of /etc/default/grub, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT...
[21:29] <Exxon> clooluss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[21:29] <nils_> guntbert:  don't have that file, seems that's only there for grub2
[21:29] <horseatingweeds> I'm trying to run perl as cgi using this guide: http://www.blog.highub.com/perl/install-configure-apache-localhost-perl-on-linux-ubuntu/  But when I try accessing a .pl file, I get a 403 Forbidden. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I chmod 755 the .pl file.
[21:30] <guntbert> nils_: thats true, I misread your statement
[21:30] <pragmaticenigma> guntbert: is just way too fast at this
[21:31] <pragmaticenigma> nils_: I think thre is a settings file /boot/grub  but i could be wrong
[21:31] <genii-around> nils_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:33] <pragmaticenigma> nils_: here is a site with exactly what you are looking for : http://www.foogazi.com/2007/10/27/remove-the-ubuntu-splash-screen/
[21:34] <maisjenaimarrede> plop
[21:34] <selim> plop
[21:34] <pragmaticenigma> horseatingweeds: the file needs to be under the same ownership as the servers user
[21:35] <nils_> yeah but I suspect that update-grub will add those lines again when I install a new kernel. I'll best go fiddle with the script.
[21:35] <pragmaticenigma> horseatingweeds: I believe the user needed is www-data
[21:36] <pragmaticenigma> nils_: When you get a new update... usually you will be prompted that there are changes to the current config and update manager will ask if you want to overwrite the changes
[21:36] <pragmaticenigma> at least it wuld for me, I had to always run mine with the i915.modeset=1 option
[21:36] <nils_> yeah this box doesn't work with grub2 else I'd be happy with grub2 and /etc/default/grub
[21:37] <raimedia_score> addon
[21:37] <raimedia_score> list
[21:38] <Exxon> raimedia_score, what addons are you looking for
[21:38] <pragmaticenigma> !flood | raimedia_score
[21:39] <Exxon> pragmaticenigma, give him the time to explain..
[21:39] <MissingNH2> Hey.
[21:39] <famgod> can anyone tell me which kernel has the new power ACPI (that drastically improves batter power) ???
[21:39] <MissingNH2> Anyone know how to change the hotspot for the Unity sidebar?
[21:40] <pragmaticenigma> famgod: What version of Ubuntu are you currently running?
[21:40] <zacarias> my mouse cursor goes off the visible desktop to the right side (but not to the left). Some of my sticky notes too. How do I correct that?
[21:40] <yagoo> famgod, powermanagement still premature on linux.. if you want to have a look check out the latest about suspend2/tuxnice project
[21:41] <Spy> hello
[21:41] <pragmaticenigma> zacarias: Your possibly using an unspported resolution for your display, try a lower one and see if it improves the problem
[21:41] <yagoo> famgod, at least according to me linux powermanagement -- if it works for you great.. if not then it's either posible or very experimental
[21:42] <wunnle> hey guys.
[21:42] <Spy> hey wunnle
[21:43] <wunnle> anyone using an alternative for plowshare? it is buggy and doesn't have features for safelinking and proxy tunnel.
[21:43] <zacarias> pragmaticenigma: but it works with everything else. If I try to move a panel applet to the right, for instance, it won't move
[21:44] <pragmaticenigma> It's possible the notes application has a bug and doesn't recognize the screen edge as a boundry
[21:44] <inashdeen_> hi everyone, just an enquiry. what is an author's signing key? how do i get them?
[21:44] <pangur> On my LibreOffice, I have an icon for Print File directly(generic printer) and I can also choose File->Print.  I am using Ubuntu 11.10.  Why does the icon sometimes work whereas the File->Print can sit there doing nothing?
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> inashdeen_: It's a certificate you apply to your programs to digitally sign them to prove that you were the author and it is your own work
[21:45] <inashdeen_> pramaticeningma : how do i do it?
[21:46] <Danny33496> Hey Does anyone know why my HTC evo 4G all of a sudden turns off and dosnt turn on? it was plugged into the computer charging...
[21:46] <Danny33496> And it just turned off
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> inashdeen_: depends on what you need it for... it's really only necassary if your going to run your applications on an environment that requires application signing like Android... it's not needed for PC programs
[21:47] <Danny33496> can anyone answer my question?
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: this is a forum for Ubuntu... not mobile devices... I reocmmend you contact your wireless service provider support line
[21:47] <inashdeen_> pramaticenigma: im a recompiling a vala file
[21:47] <yagoo> Danny33496, just did. oomachookaloobahooba
[21:47] <Exxon> Danny33496, its a mobile phone..??
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> inashdeen_: I am not familiar with vala, please explain
[21:47] <inashdeen_> Danny33496: how me help you?
[21:47] <yagoo> Exxon, it's a plane!!
[21:47] <Danny33496> Yes its a HTC EVO 4G Flashed to metro
[21:48] <MissingNH2> And you're on the ubuntu channel...
[21:48] <Danny33496> Im just wondering if anyone has any idea
[21:48] <Danny33496> who should i call?
[21:48] <inashdeen_> Danny33496: is it plugged on a ubuntu? i mean if it is an HTC question, we cant help you. seriously
[21:48] <wunnle> Keep wondering.
[21:48] <MissingNH2> Try removing the battery and reinserting
[21:48] <Danny33496> I have done that
[21:48] <wunnle> Danny33496, ghost busters?
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: I wouldn't recommend charging our phone with your computer... try plugging in using the wall adapter... if it still doens't turn on then you need to contact Sprint for warrenty service
[21:48] <Danny33496> i took out the battery and put it back in
[21:49] <MissingNH2> Did you hold the power button after you put the battery back in? Try holding it down for a few seconds
[21:49] <yagoo> ,/warranty/warrenty
[21:49] <Danny33496> and also it turns on but as soon as i let go the power button it turns off
[21:49] <MissingNH2> Oh
[21:49] <MissingNH2> Plug it into a wall socket thing
[21:49] <MissingNH2> for about 20 mins.
[21:49] <Danny33496> i feel like the battery is done
[21:49] <MissingNH2> And then try again.
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: Charge the phone using the wall adapter, not your computer
[21:50] <Danny33496> i know thats what im doing
[21:50] <Danny33496> im only using wall adapter now
[21:50] <MissingNH2> Also, take the battery out, plug it in and hold the power button
[21:50] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: it will take awhile for the battery to charge.. leave it alone for a while
[21:50] <Besogon> Does someone compile Apache+php by himself? If I update the system Shall I recompile Apache and php again?
[21:50] <MissingNH2> if its a battery problem, then it will work perfectly
[21:50] <Danny33496> i got so pissed -__-
[21:50] <inashdeen_> pragmaticenigma: elementary OS got a program named exe-wrapper. i want to install it on ubuntu. it is a ppa only by the way. the problem is, it is written inside there Elementary. i wanna change it to ubuntu. so i edit the source. and now i want to compile it again. it is easy, just using debuild. but they require those "keys".
[21:50] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: if it still doen't work then you need to contact your wireless carrier for further support
[21:50] <Shirakawasuna> hi folks! Running xubuntu 11.10, when I select 'shut down' it puts me back out at the lightdm login and I can't find a shutdown option in the lightdm interface, so I end up switching VTs and manually running 'poweroff'. Is this a general ubuntu issue / xubuntu issue and does anyone know a fix?
[21:50] <Danny33496> but i flashed the phone to metro
[21:50] <pangur> Why are you asking in ubuntu rather than in a channel for mobile phones, Danny33496?  Would you not get more focussed help elsewhere?
[21:50] <Danny33496> will they still help me?
[21:50] <MissingNH2> again, if its a battery issue, then taking the battery out and turning it on while its plugged in will make it work.
[21:51] <MissingNH2> i have no idea what 'flashed the phone to metro' means.
[21:51] <Danny33496> it dosnt turn on without the battery either
[21:51] <Shirakawasuna> Danny33496: try ##hardware
[21:51] <MissingNH2> then its not a battery issue.
[21:51] <pangur> It means that he has had it chipped
[21:51] <Shirakawasuna> Danny33496: they're usually pretty helpful
[21:51] <pragmaticenigma> Danny33496: No, you have voided the warrenty and pssibly briked your phone in the processs
[21:51] <Danny33496> Like the evo is for sprint i made it go to metro service
[21:51] <yagoo> lol
[21:51] <yagoo> poor Danny boy..
[21:51] <MissingNH2> doesn't that void your warranty?
[21:52] <yagoo> Danny33496, you can try to get away with it.. just never mention you did it
[21:52] <topolo> Hello here, i'm a new unity GUI user and i need a tips
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | topolo
[21:52] <Danny33496> Ok ill call them but i think im gonna let it sit for a while
[21:52] <Danny33496> because it turns on but it turns off right away ....
[21:52] <MissingNH2> Oh yea, speaking of unity, I had a question too which wasn't answered
[21:52] <MissingNH2> Anyone know how to control the unity sidebar hotspot? So it'll come out only when I move my mouse to the bottom left vs the whole left side?
[21:52] <Danny33496> I have no clue
[21:53] <topolo> I've start an applicaiton and i can't find how to pout the mouse focus out of it, "i'm blocked in it" Is there any shortcut ?
[21:53] <MissingNH2> topolo: alt + tab?
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> MissingNH2  try CCSM
[21:53] <gislikarl> has anyone tried Linux Mint Debian? if so how is it compared to the Ubuntu based mint?
[21:53] <topolo> Alt+TAB no
[21:53] <wunnle> MishkaEchoes, yes, and also when you press super-key.
[21:53] <MissingNH2> MonkeyDust: Is that part of the Compiz thing? Isn't Compiz buggy?
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: You would need to add the feature to the Unity code base to get that feature
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> MissingNH2  yes it's compiz config etc
[21:54] <pragmaticenigma> !mint | gislikarl
[21:54] <topolo> do you mean super key + alt + atb > no
[21:54] <przemek_> hi there. does any of you uses apache mod_layout? because I cant get it to work on my server.
[21:54] <MissingNH2> pragmaticenigma: I was hoping it was already implemented. I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu code. :/
[21:54] <theborger> anyone recommend a decent browser? low mem use?
[21:54] <topolo> but long pressure of super key only show number in icons
[21:54] <MissingNH2> MonkeyDust: Is compiz stable enough for regular use?
[21:54] <theborger> also good to run over ssh tunneling?
[21:54] <kmthein> Question: I installed Postfix on Ubuntu 11.10, and I was surprised that there was no file even in /usr/bin/mail and /bin/mail. Should mail file exist out of the box installation of Ubuntu?
[21:54] <ic3b3rg> hey guys, i have a quick question. I'm attempting to change the order for my grub menu. It says to look for a menu.lst file on the internet. All I can find is a menu.lst.save... is this the same thing?
[21:55] <wunnle> MissingNH2, i use compiz, and it's stable.
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: sadly it's what would be considered a power user feature and Ubuntu developers haven't had time to add those enhancements yet
[21:55] <gislikarl> @theborger I recomend Google Chromium or Chrome
[21:55] <nalle_> Got some problems with my dual-monitors. Anyone wanna be a pro and help me? :)
[21:55] <MissingNH2> I'll try out compiz then
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> MissingNH2  i don't like/use compiz, just know ccsm is to configure it
[21:55] <Besogon> People! Does compiz-config work with gnome3???
[21:55] <gislikarl> you can get chromium from the software center
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: compiz has been around for a long time now... it's stable
[21:56] <MissingNH2> I'll try it out. I don't like how the sidebar comes out whenever I move towards my browser's back button
[21:56] <pragmaticenigma> ic3b3rg: what version of grub are you using and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:56] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: You should be able to re-position the bar to the bottom of the screen I would think
[21:56] <Exxon> theborger, the inbult browser is decent..what you expect for other
[21:56] <ic3b3rg> msot recent version of ubuntu 11.10? i think
[21:57] <ic3b3rg> and I have no clue what version of grub
[21:57] <MissingNH2> pragmaticenigma: Nope, there was a bug report filed, and the devs said it didn't go with the idea of Unity or somesuch
[21:57] <wunnle> MissingNH2, you'll get used to move your cursor to right side of back button :P
[21:57] <MissingNH2> even though many people wanted it. a hundred or so.
[21:57] <yagoo> ic3b3rg, that's grub2
[21:57] <ic3b3rg> ok. is editing that different?
[21:57] <yagoo> !grub2
[21:57] <pragmaticenigma> ic3b3rg: there is no menu.lst  in ubuntu 11.10...
[21:57] <MissingNH2> wunnle: Haha. That'll require very precise mouse movements. I'll just try compiz.
[21:57] <alex_mayorga> is there a way to fully reset the theme, login, scroll bars, etc
[21:58] <ic3b3rg> how do i change the default if there's no menu.lst?
[21:58] <yagoo> ic3b3rg, grub2 modifying different.. don't edit grub.cfg directly
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: LAME!
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> ic3b3rg: Just a sec
[21:58] <nalle_> Anyone got a clue why i can't use dual monitors?
[21:58] <wunnle> MissingNH2, it takes 2 days exactly  (:
[21:58] <ic3b3rg> ok, thaanks
[21:58] <MissingNH2> pragmaticenigma: I'll see if I can get a link to it. Twas the longest bug report I've ever seen.
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> ic3b3rg: I have the same setup on my machine
[21:58] <nalle_> Anyone got a clue why i can't use dual monitors?
[21:58] <alex_mayorga> I upgraded from Natty, but the theme doesn't look like a new fresh install
[21:58] <MissingNH2> wunnle: You're using compiz though.
[21:58] <ic3b3rg> how did you get it to work?
[21:59] <yagoo> ic3b3rg, /etc/default/grub
[21:59] <alex_mayorga> !theme
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> ic3b3rg: the folder /etc/grub.d has the scripts that help generate the menu... what are you trying to change and I will help you best I can
[21:59] <wunnle> MissingNH2, i use both. now i'm on unity. it looks fantastic at first, but it's usefull.
[21:59] <yagoo> ic3b3rg, then update-grub2, to update grub.cfg
[21:59] <nalle_> required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[21:59] <MissingNH2> Ideally I'd use Gnome, but it messes up my touchpad
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: I switched away from Ubuntu to Xubuntu awhile ago when Gnome was getting too bloated and didn't even want to think about unity
[22:00] <wunnle> MissingNH2, left click locking problem?
[22:00] <ic3b3rg> awesome. ok thank you guys so much!
[22:00] <kmthein> Question: Should I expect to see /usr/bin/mail or /bin/mail with out of the box installation of latest Ubuntu?
[22:00] <MissingNH2> wunnle: No, the touchpad works till login, and stops working right after I log in.
[22:00] <MissingNH2> pragmaticenigma: I don't know what xubuntu is, I'll look it up
[22:00] <Exxon> MissingNH2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[22:00]  * pangur is away: Gone away for now
[22:01] <wunnle> MissingNH2, woa, i like my left click locking problem then.
[22:01] <pragmaticenigma> MissingNH2: Xubuntu is all the same as ubuntu but uses the Xfce window manager...
[22:01] <wunnle> Xfce = ugly
[22:01] <MissingNH2> Exxon: I'll try that out, but it happens even when the touchpad is not suspended. Thanks for the link though. I'll see if that fixes it
[22:01] <topolo> UP - ubuntu - unity - I've started an application and i can't find how to put out the mouse focus, "i'm blocked in it" Is there any shortcut ? (super key > no, alt tab > no)
[22:01] <MissingNH2> Exxon: touchpad is not disabled*
[22:01] <lcb> hi. how to install iceweasel and not firefox, when apt-get install iceweasel on a minimal installation setup?
[22:02] <Exxon> MissingNH2, i would rather suggest google first instead ..:))
[22:02] <pragmaticenigma> wunnle: Xfce = functional for me
[22:02] <omid> hi , i use kubuntu 11.04 how can i format a USB memory stick ?
[22:02] <MissingNH2> Exxon: I did try Google. There was a bug report filed somewhere with many people chiming in with their solutions. I just went back to Unity. :)
[22:02] <wunnle> pragmaticenigma, Xfce = [functional, ugly] than.
[22:02] <pragmaticenigma> lcb: Iceweasel is built on the same libraies as firefox... that's why it installs both
[22:02] <lcb> omid: gparted, for instance
[22:03] <omid> lcb:  kubuntu has KDE . and KDE has not Gparted .
[22:03] <lcb> pragmaticenigma: hmm but it installs firefox only
[22:03] <yagoo> looking for a treepane file manager, one knows of one?
[22:03] <lcb> omid: any artition tool
[22:03] <pragmaticenigma> lcb: probably because iceweasel isn't developed anymore?
[22:03] <lcb> partition either
[22:03] <omid> nothing is included?
[22:03] <lcb> pragmaticenigma: probably
[22:04] <Exxon> MissingNH2, i really want you to understand it first and try it out..if any failure then..
[22:04] <MissingNH2> Exxon: I have a fair idea of why its happening. A gnome service stops the touchpad but doesn't restart it.
[22:05] <yagoo> (there's nautilus of course but i hate it.. looking for alternative)
[22:05] <Exxon> MissingNH2, can you link me to the Snyptic bug report as you claim
[22:05] <yagoo> (gnome if possible)
[22:05] <MissingNH2> Exxon: Sure
[22:06]  * pangur is back.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> rejoice
[22:06] <famgod> whats the apt-get command to purge a package?
[22:06] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: Thunar perhaps?
[22:07] <pragmaticenigma> famgod: apt-get remove packagename
[22:07] <Exxon> MonkeyDust, we are all rejoicing ..:))
[22:07] <theborger> how do you launch chrome from the command line?
[22:07] <theborger> google-chrome is not working
[22:07] <theborger> nor is chrome etc
[22:07] <genii-around> famgod: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: are you sure you have google chrome installed and not chromium?
[22:08] <theborger> i got it
[22:09] <pragmaticenigma> theborger: what happends if you enter chromium-browser?
[22:09] <Exxon> theborger, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1385182
[22:10] <theborger> yea i got it working, thanks
[22:10] <zykotick9> pragmaticenigma, i think the executable is "chromium" and the package is chromium-browser (or used to be, to avoid conflict with the game, i think they've renamed the game now)
[22:10] <pragmaticenigma> zykotick9: no idea... I just know from the command line if I tab complete mine wants to use chromium-borwser
[22:11] <pragmaticenigma> spelling errors not withstanding
[22:11] <zykotick9> pragmaticenigma, oh, well guess i was wrong then
[22:12] <MissingNH2> Exxon: I'm trying to find the bug report I was looking at a few weeks back, but theres quite a few Gnome-touchpad bug reports. This is one thats similar to mine, and relevant:
[22:12] <MissingNH2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/868400
[22:13] <moxie> hello
[22:13] <Exxon> MissingNH2, that bug is already solved.. so the report vanished try the link- xubuntu
[22:13] <moxie> does anyone know where the linux mint channel is
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> !mint | moxie
[22:14] <moxie> thanks
[22:14] <MissingNH2> Solved? 17 hours ago someone posted:
[22:14] <MissingNH2> "Does anyone know if thee is any solution to be seen soon?"
[22:14] <MissingNH2> Its not marked as Solved either
[22:15] <fellowlinguist> whats the apt command to list dependencies for a package
[22:15] <T0mM> I have destroyed my task bar any way i can restore it?
[22:15] <T0mM> it is not showing the applications in the task bar
[22:15] <zykotick9> fellowlinguist, "apt-cache depends foo"
[22:15] <arcsky> sudo: unable to resolve host vbox-server
[22:15] <arcsky> i takes ages when i do sudo -i
[22:15] <arcsky> what doese that mean ?
[22:16] <zykotick9> arcsky, did you change your hostname since installing?
[22:16] <arcsky> zykotick9: sure in /etc/hostname
[22:16] <zykotick9> arcsky, did you also change /etc/hosts?
[22:16] <zykotick9> !hostname | arcsky
[22:17] <pragmaticenigma> fellowlinguist: I usually just use the install command wait fo the list to come up then tell it no
[22:17] <T0mM> http://imageshack.us/f/267/selection009f.png/
[22:17] <T0mM> please i need help badly
[22:17] <T0mM> :S
[22:18] <esmirlin> hi guys! i have a problem, when i use gnome shell, every gnome app (like nautilus or gedit) at launching show a glich in the menu, like it dissapeares for a moment and then reappeares, does anyone else noticed it?
[22:18] <arcsky> zykotick9: its an ubuntu server (virtual one)
[22:18] <zykotick9> arcsky, that doesn't answer my question.  Did you read what !hostname said about the two files?
[22:19] <exploits> hi all
[22:19] <MissingNH2> I set Compiz to show the sidebar when I press control + space, and this doesn't work. Do I have to restart or something to get this to work?
[22:19] <exploits> how to install blackbuntu in hdd?
[22:19] <mdq3_> :
[22:20] <zykotick9> exploits, blackbuntu is not a supported version here
[22:20] <mdq3> quit
[22:20] <T0mM> nvm fixed it
[22:20] <exploits> tnx
[22:21] <exploits> tnx zykotick9
[22:21] <alex_mayorga> FWIW, this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome helped me to get back to plain oneiric, or so I believe
[22:21] <pragmaticenigma> !blackbuntu | exploits
[22:21] <exploits> Is there a way to install
[22:21] <borisb> I've just installed 11.10 and it keeps asking me for *root* password (not my *user* password) for everything system related, even connecting to wireless. Also upgrade manager did not work, I had to upgrade from console (and via wired conn.)
[22:21] <T0mM> i needed to add window list
[22:22] <pragmaticenigma> exploits: We don't support that version here... you will have to go to their site for assitence
[22:22] <exploits> Easy to install in vmware
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> exploits: IT IS NOT SUPPORTED HERE, PLEASE STOP ASKING
[22:23] <arcsky> zykotick9: it takes ages to ssh to the box
[22:23] <zykotick9> arcsky, i don't have an answer for that sorry.  Good luck.
[22:23] <exploits> tnx pragmaticenigma
[22:24] <MissingNH2> exploits: Its installed the same way as regular ubuntu. Try their forums.
[22:24] <exploits> ok
[22:25] <Exxon> T0mM, please elobrate what window manager are you using
[22:25] <CharminTheMoose> Is my hdd about to die soon? http://pastebin.ca/2095483 The load/unload cycles increases by 2 everytime I exit from suspend mode, which seems strange
[22:26] <T0mM> Exxon, Window lis
[22:26] <T0mM> list*
[22:26] <joansirley> hello everyone
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> Exxon: T0mM is using gnome 2.x... he needs the taskbar app that lists the open programs
[22:26] <scorinitron> hey
[22:26] <Exxon> T0mM, http://www.ehow.com/how_8228594_reinstall-taskbar-ubuntu-gnome.html
[22:26] <MissingNH2> Yea, I cant get the changes in Compiz (with the Unity plugin) to stick
[22:27] <joansirley> I would like someone to help me in a important question for me
[22:27] <scorinitron> whoami
[22:27] <MissingNH2> !question
[22:27] <DarkLinux7> Hello
[22:27] <ben_> What is the equivalent directory on Ubuntu to Apache2.2/cgi-bin on Windows?
[22:27] <shipht> Hello. Newb question here. In 11.11 I don't seem to have a .Xdefaults file in my home directory. I'm trying to add lines for 256 color support in my terminal. Has the config file changed or something?
[22:27] <MissingNH2> I've always wanted to use that
[22:27] <joansirley> how to clone a harddisk
[22:27] <scorinitron> Their
[22:27] <mdq3_> join #8bc
[22:27] <scorinitron> their's an 11.11?
[22:27] <joansirley> dd is extremely slow
[22:27] <jrib> shipht: there is no such thing as 11.11.  If you want to use ~/.Xdefaults, just create it.
[22:27] <joansirley> clonezilla didn't work
[22:28] <joansirley> what's an alternative for me?
[22:28] <pragmaticenigma> ben_: That depends on your configuration file... typically /var/www/cgi-bin but I'm not certain on that
[22:28] <pragmaticenigma> shipht: you might just need to add the fil yourself...
[22:28] <joansirley> what's an alternative for exemple from a Live Ubuntu?
[22:29] <joansirley> I use dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024
[22:29] <joansirley> extremely slow
[22:29] <zykotick9> joansirley, are you imagining to an external USB?
[22:30] <joansirley> no internal
[22:30] <pragmaticenigma> joansirley: Clone any harddrive is going to take as much time as your system hardware supports... if you are running on an older machine it's going to take longer than a newer machine... also, if you have a lot of data, it's goin to take longer to transfer 1Tb of data versus 10GB of data
[22:30] <Exxon> joansirley, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[22:30] <shipht> jrib: 11.10 sorry. Can I create the file with just the lines I need? Or will it need to be a proper config file with everything else?
[22:30] <pragmaticenigma> joansirley: there isn't a magic program that is goin to speed things up... it's strictly your hardware capabilities
[22:31] <jrib> shipht: just create the file with the settings you need.  Depending on whether or not your current setup reads the file when you login, you may need to add « xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults » to your startup scripts
[22:31] <pragmaticenigma> joansirley: the fastest method is going to be dd, anyother program is going to add it's own overhead in the process and make it take longer
[22:31] <shipht> jrib: Ok, thanks for the help.
[22:32] <DarkLinux7> Anyone need help, pm me
[22:32] <DarkLinux7> Anyone need help, pm me
[22:32] <jrib> DarkLinux7: please don't do that
[22:32] <DarkLinux7> jrib: why?
[22:32] <pragmaticenigma> DarkLinux7: all questions should be posted and answered to in the main chat so others can benefit
[22:32] <joansirley> ok
[22:33] <DarkLinux7> Ok
[22:33] <joansirley> that link helped a lot
[22:33] <pragmaticenigma> !question | DarkLinux7
[22:33] <zykotick9> pragmaticenigma, fyi !ask is a lot faster to type then !question
[22:34] <pragmaticenigma> !pm
[22:34] <pragmaticenigma> (even faster ;-))
[22:34] <CharminTheMoose> Where in either /proc or /sys can I find the system time? Well, I assume it be viewed there.
[22:34] <zykotick9> pragmaticenigma, ya, but it's a different factoid -- !ask and !question are the same thing
[22:35] <basix> anybody successfully using virtualbox 4.1.6 with linux kernel version 3.1.2?
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> zykotick9: like programming and everything else with computers... there is always more than one way to do the same thing
[22:35] <MissingNH2> Okay. So rebooting fixes issues with Compiz.
[22:35] <Exxon> pragmaticenigma, every one is typing that fast again give them some time ..:))
[22:35] <MissingNH2> :)
[22:35] <darkstar999-away> CharminTheMoose: you can't just use the 'date' command?
[22:36] <pragmaticenigma> basix: are you running the VB from the repos or from oracle's repos?
[22:36] <basix> pragmaticenigma, oracle's
[22:36] <basix> pragmaticenigma, ubuntu's repos are behind imho
[22:37] <pragmaticenigma> basix: I'm not sure which version I have on mine but I'm guessing it's the ubuntu repos... and it works with the latest avaialble kernel
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> vbox ose is 4.1.2
[22:37] <bindi> hi, not really #ubuntu question but I need  this quickly - how can I read lines starting from N to M?
[22:37] <zykotick9> basix, ya, who needs software that works - when there is a newer version out there </sarcasm>
[22:37] <pragmaticenigma> basix: ubuntus repos are going to be tested and proven to work... oracles may or may not work and we can't support them easily here
[22:37] <basix> pragmaticenigma, what version of the kernel & VB do you have? I need the PUEL version
[22:38] <CharminTheMoose> darktstar999, well, I could, but I'm testing some stuff that requires the hdd to be asleep and not woken up by a read or write. Date seems to wake it up anyway. :/
[22:38] <zykotick9> basix, starting with vbox4 there is no longer a OSE and PUEL version - they are the same
[22:38] <pragmaticenigma> I'm running VB 4.1.4_UBUNTU
[22:38] <CharminTheMoose> On the other hand, I need the date/time printed to the console.
[22:38] <basix> pragmaticenigma, i understand. But then again i'm using a mainline kernel with my ubuntu install.
[22:39] <demon_lewiatan>  poland?
[22:39] <basix> zykotick9, hmm..what about the usb and other things that used to come with the puel?
[22:39] <zykotick9> basix, all included with vbox4+
[22:39] <basix> zykotick9, apt-cache search virtualbox shows virtualbox-ose
[22:39] <pragmaticenigma> basix: there usually isn't anything better in a dot release... it's usually a small bug fix that may or may not affect you... however the version in ubuntu's repos are going to be guaranteed to work
[22:39] <zykotick9> basix, what ubuntu are you using?
[22:39] <bindi> how can I read lines starting from the line N to the line M?
[22:40] <basix> zykotick9, 11.04
[22:40] <pragmaticenigma> basix: I would recommend updating to 11.10
[22:40] <Exxon> CharminTheMoose, http://www.codeunit.co.za/2010/06/14/ubuntu-how-to-view-the-current-date-and-time-via-command-line/
[22:40] <zykotick9> basix, perhaps that was before vbox4 entered repo?  perhaps backports has it?
[22:40] <basix> pragmaticenigma, i dont want to upgrade to 11.10 - i use gnome.
[22:41] <jrib> bindi: you can use sed for example
[22:41] <bindi> jrib: i'm actually looking for working solutions and not more manual bashing :(
[22:41] <jrib> bindi: sed -n 'N,Mp' file
[22:41] <basix> zykotick9, perhaps...i'll check the backports..
[22:42] <bindi> jrib: thanks
[22:42] <basix> zykotick9, but i am running a mainline kernel that  makes it complicated...even the official version may not work with the latest mainline kernel.
[22:43] <zykotick9> basix, perhaps a trip to #vbox would shed some light?  good luck.
[22:43] <basix> zykotick9, yeah i am there
[22:44] <computa_mike> I'm getting an error when trying to run virtual box machines - I'm running ubuntu 11.10.  The error is : Kernel driver not installed - it says to install virtualbox-dkms and execute modprobe vboxdrv as root - any ideas.
[22:44] <computa_mike> needle
[22:45] <computa_mike> needless to say - I have tried the advice offered by virtual box
[22:46] <irule> hi, I have a headless 11.10 that halts on grub waiting for ENTER, how may I make sure it will never stay like that?
[22:46] <inashdeen_> jsz'_: i do remember someone gave me a workaround, they put the code into a brackets or something.'
[22:48] <Exxon> irule, simply update it will literally solve the problem, if its fresh install
[22:48] <scyclops> #3taps
[22:51] <irule> Exxon I had a 11.04 CD, installed that and right after install I proceeded with the upgrade
[22:54] <zykotick9> irule, you might want to check /etc/default/grub -- be sure timeout isn't set to 0 (wait forever)
[22:54] <daviddoria> A library I am building says I am missing mpi.h. In the software center, I see that mpi-default-dev is insalled - which other package would I need?
[22:55] <irule> zykotick9 it is 10, should it be 1?  ..still, if it is 10, why is it acting like 0?
[22:55] <zykotick9> irule, 10 would be fine.  Why it's behaving like 0 i have no idea.
[22:56] <irule> zykotick9 btw I just TESTED 0 and it started right away as I wanted, no waiting for imput :s whazap/fyi :s
[22:57] <irule> piece of ubuntu hahaha
[22:58] <irule> is there a way to choose ubuntu classic theme within .vnc/startx? I dont have a monitor for this pc he network access only
[22:59]  * Qoray Say : Good night guys... see u tomorrow
[23:00] <irule> Qoray see ya later
[23:00] <milamber> daviddoria: libopenmpi-dev maybe?
[23:00] <Exxon> m2
[23:00] <daviddoria> milamber, I have that installed too
[23:01] <milamber> daviddoria: what are you trying to build? is it maybe just not looking in the right spot? can you explicitly tell it where to look for it?
[23:01] <terninjas> is ubuntu 11.10 stable now?
[23:01] <rebecca> Pretty sure
[23:02] <rebecca> I am here to answer all your questions.
[23:02] <rebecca> But dont blame me if I dont know some of them
[23:02] <rebecca> I'm just a kid!
[23:02] <rebecca> XD\
[23:02] <rebecca> soo
[23:03] <rebecca> Heres something you should know
[23:03] <daviddoria> hm the library seems to have the right include path..
[23:03] <daviddoria> and I do have that file in /usr/lib/openmpi/include
[23:03] <daviddoria> i'll try to figure it out - i thought i might have just been missing a  package
[23:03] <rebecca> about:config dom.max_script _run_time 20
[23:03] <guest69> is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb key?  what about installing it on a usb key that's currently running it?
[23:05] <rebecca> Guest69: you do not need to reinstall ubuntu on a usb key if it is already there. It wasted memory. I am not sure if Ubuntu can be installed throughout different versions; but I think 10.10 and 11 is available.
[23:05] <milamber> daviddoria: did you manually build any of the libraries? maybe you just need to run: sudo ldconfig
[23:06] <pragmaticenigma> guest69: To install Ubuntu to a USB you must use an OS installed to the system harddrive... you cannot install a new version onto the same USB drive that you are running from
[23:16] <darktstar999> rebecca: an irc server got disconnected and just now reconnected. it's called a netsplit
[23:16] <rebecca> Yes... and?
[23:16] <johnficca> is there a media center like program and if so is there a amazon instant video plugin?
[23:16] <somsip> computa_mike: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms; sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[23:16] <computa_mike> somsip: thanks - I'll give that a try
[23:16] <peteslaptop> Hello everyone
[23:16] <peteslaptop> Is this where I might find support/
[23:16] <cebrere> is there a website anyone would recommend to learn some terminal commands?
[23:17] <rebecca> all you need to do is install kernel drive and virtual box maybe even check out support. the message should clear up it might be missing a script part or harddrive essential that perhaps you deleted. or maybe ubuntu leaked and is now containing a half-virus infection.
[23:17] <peteslaptop> I'm a noob to Ubuntu
[23:17] <computa_mike> somsip: I get : /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[23:18] <rebecca> Make sure your computer signal isn't being overrided by Ubuntu hacker.
[23:18] <peteslaptop> Anyone? Help with installing a printer?
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> peteslaptop: yes support is in here
[23:18] <peteslaptop> K
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> peteslaptop: descirbe your problem in detail to the channel
[23:18] <somsip> computa_mike: sorry - that was from memory which clearly isn'
[23:18] <rebecca> Oh just sync the printer link with the PC Linux link and make sure they are connected wireless or wired?
[23:18] <somsip> computa_mike: t right... I shall try to find it
[23:18] <computa_mike> somsip: well - I was impressed - that was darned fast....
[23:19] <somsip> computa_mike: I had to do the same thing 2 days ago :)
[23:19] <peteslaptop> Well. I'm a noob,  and have a Brother HL-2080DW network printer
[23:19] <peteslaptop> I can see the printer to add it
[23:19] <computa_mike> somsip: could that be for a previous version of ubuntu?
[23:19] <jrib> !enter | peteslaptop
[23:19] <peteslaptop> I downloaded a .deb file , actually two of the,
[23:20] <rebecca> Ok you should be able to find printer code if you look for it in range or if it is in the manual or sticker. It should be able to find it if the printer type is wireless. Wired? Just plug it into your computer and set up the wizard.
[23:20] <peteslaptop> so I have these two .deb files in my downloads folder and no idea how to 'run' or install the drivers
[23:21] <Rick30> hi
[23:21] <CharminTheMoose> The kernel is outputting times to dmesg like: [27166.230635] Is there any way to make it more human readable?
[23:21] <somsip> computa_mike: I was close: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150414
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> peteslaptop: if it's deb usually double click then it starts the rest by itself
[23:21] <yagoo> ..?
[23:21] <pragmaticenigma> CharminTheMoose: that is a time code, it doesn't mean anything
[23:22] <peteslaptop> Hmmm.. It appears to be a compressed file that needs to be extracted
[23:22] <computa_mike> somsip:  I did try the forums first - honest... well - to be accurate I tried google, but the latest results were from last year...
[23:22] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: to install the .deb files just run dpkg -i packagename.deb
[23:22] <somsip> computa_mike: I my experience they still apply.
[23:22] <milamber> peteslaptop: what do you mean by drivers?
[23:22] <somsip> computa_mike: but I have to go now so can't help more
[23:23] <computa_mike> somsip: no worries - thanks for your help...
[23:23] <peteslaptop> geoff, this command is in the terminal, correct?
[23:23] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: yes
[23:24] <milamber> peteslaptop: the only other thing i would suggest is check the repos first
[23:24] <peteslaptop> I'm really inexperienced at the terminal. I'm way new to this. I assume I have to :cd to the downloads directory, then use the command you just gave me?
[23:25] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: correct
[23:25] <zykotick9> peteslaptop, "cd ~/Downloads" then you need "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" x2
[23:25] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: or can do from wherever u are, and just do sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[23:25] <rebecca> HAHAHAHAHA
[23:26] <rebecca>  you wont believe what just heppened
[23:26] <rebecca> my dad thought i was a hacker XD
[23:26] <peteslaptop> geoff, where am I entering that command?
[23:26] <happyface> does Wubi support software RAID?
[23:26] <L1nuxRules> Real hackers use Linux not crackers
[23:26] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: in terminal
[23:26] <aeon-ltd> rebecca: run, cops comin'
[23:27] <peteslaptop> ok.. let me give it a shot
[23:27] <L1nuxRules> hcking is learning cracking is being bad
[23:27] <jrib> peteslaptop: are you sure you need to install a deb for this printer...?
[23:27] <aeon-ltd> L1nuxRules: not always, penetration testing as a form of cracking is good
[23:28] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: you know, im too command line oriented. Apparently you can also just double click it and select install package, lol
[23:28] <L1nuxRules> aooen-ltd you are correct wouldnt be needed if there went crackers
[23:28] <L1nuxRules> though
[23:28] <zykotick9> happyface, Wubi is installing into a file inside windows, i doubt it has to even know you have RAID
[23:29] <Richiie> Hello im having some issues whit the guide provided here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:29] <rebecca> gotta go bye!!!!!!!
[23:29] <happyface> zykotick9: I know the linux image will install fine, but I'm worried about grub
[23:29] <Richiie> i dont know if im doing anything wrong, but as far as i can tell from the log file it failes on some points.
[23:29] <L1nuxRules> grub is easy to fix
[23:29] <geoffmcc> happyface: wubi does not use grub
[23:30] <happyface> geoffmcc: ah, never used it before
[23:30] <L1nuxRules> you can always use a live cd at worst case
[23:30] <happyface> yea I can definitely get windows back, just wondering if it suports software raid
[23:30] <geoffmcc> happyface: yea, think of wubi as a way for you to try ubuntu without having to worry about data loss or any changes to your pc
[23:30] <L1nuxRules> wubi ooh sorry windows > /dev/null "&1
[23:30] <peteslaptop> got an error, no command 'run' found
[23:31] <bazhang> !who > L1nuxRules
[23:31] <L1nuxRules> "was suposed to be 2
[23:31] <StepNjump> Please.. I downloaded a executable file from the internet and I was wondering in which folders should I put it?
[23:31] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: did u see my last chat to you in channel. Aparently you can just double click and install it
[23:32] <geoffmcc> peteslaptop: but if your already in term its just "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" no quotes
[23:32] <bazhang> StepNjump, what file
[23:32] <L1nuxRules> bazhang sorry forgot that
[23:32] <StepNjump> HDSentinel bazhang.. It doesn't have an extension
[23:32] <StepNjump> It says X-executable in the properties bazhang
[23:32] <bazhang> StepNjump, got a link? what does it do
[23:33] <StepNjump> Here it is bazhang http://www.hdsentinel.com/thanks_for_downloading.php?file=http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin/hdsentinel.gz
[23:33] <XwarlokX82> anybody here ever set up an irc daemon before?
[23:33] <bekks> XwarlokX82: Yes.
[23:34] <XwarlokX82> bekks, how hard is it? I'm looking to install one on my server
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> geoffmcc: wubi does use grub,,, but it modifies Microsofts boot loader to add an entry to it
[23:34] <Richiie> Im having some issues installing teamviewer as a service. on ubuntu 10.04
[23:34] <Richiie> the documentation im following is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:34] <Richiie> but it seems to me that some points are failing from the .log file anyone wanna help me? :)
[23:34] <L1nuxRules> never but xwarlok82 alot of hosts block yhe ports needed for security reasons
[23:34] <L1nuxRules> the*
[23:34] <XwarlokX82> well, damn.
[23:35] <bekks> XwarlokX82: The installation / the setup isnt hard at all. The hardest part is to secure the daemon and the server itself in a way to make it pretty hard to be exploitable.
[23:35] <XwarlokX82> I'm trying to think of some fun stuff to do with my old server other than just file storage
[23:35] <XwarlokX82> bekks, i see
[23:35] <geoffmcc> pragmaticenigma: my bad, been a while since i used it, i thought it was just microsofts bootloader
[23:35] <vulpix> I have tried everything to fix my grub2 but nothing will work?
[23:35] <pragmaticenigma> Richiie: Team Viewer is a MS program... you can use the client in linux, but you will not be able to run the service
[23:35] <bekks> XwarlokX82: Dont setup a public service like IRC unless you do know what you are doing pretty well.
[23:36] <L1nuxRules> xwarlok82 do it to your own box thats  the real way!
[23:36] <Richiie> pragmaticenigma: i know it's a windows application but look here..
[23:36] <Richiie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> geoffmcc: No biggie... Wubi modifies windows bootloader to point to grub, then grub handles the rest :-) grub is the only ay to get the kernel image to load from a FAT/NTFS partition
[23:36] <XwarlokX82> true enough... i was just wondering about it is all. I think it'd  be neat to have an always on IRC connection though :)
[23:36] <L1nuxRules> never trust wind0se
[23:36] <Richiie> pragmaticenigma: the documentation that i linked, tells that there are ways of starting an virtual desktop, and afterwards launch the teamviewer binary file.
[23:36] <bekks> pragmaticenigma: You are WRONG. Team Viewer is availiable as a full version for linux too. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[23:37] <happyface> XwarlokX82: irssi?
[23:37] <L1nuxRules> they do everything they can to put Linux out at the min
[23:37] <XwarlokX82> happyface, that might work
[23:37] <Richiie> bekks: The client version is available that's true.. but it does not affect the fact that it cant be "normally" runed as a service in the background.
[23:37] <bazhang> !windoze | L1nuxRules
[23:37] <pragmaticenigma> bekks: This was a topic last night... the "linux" version is symply the windows version wrapped in a wine script
[23:37] <Richiie> that's the issue im having to try solve that as this guide here says http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:38] <happyface> XwarlokX82: it does work, that's what I use :p
[23:38] <L1nuxRules> bazhang understood sensi :)
[23:38] <XwarlokX82> happyface, i've used it before as well... I just didn't know it had that kind of functionality
[23:39] <bekks> XwarlokX82: personally, having a server myself, I am running irssi in a screen session so I can a) stay online 24/7 and b) connect from everywhere just using an ssh client.
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> Richiie: when I see virtual desktop I think of them running VMWare, Xen, or Virutal Box...
[23:39] <Guest77238> does anyone have any suggestions besides the ubuntu help bootloader fixes?
[23:39] <happyface> XwarlokX82: run it in a screen, then ssh into the machine and re-attach the screen
[23:39] <XwarlokX82> bekks, that is pretty much what I'm looking for
[23:39] <Richiie> pragmaticenigma: yes i know.. but that's not the topic of my issue, just want to know how i can solve this on a good way :)
[23:40] <bekks> XwarlokX82: Then just open up an up a ssh session, start screen, start irssi within the screen session. Afterwards, reconnect another ssh session and start "screen -DR". Done.
[23:40] <Richiie> im not a big fan of virtual desktops based on software emulation / vnc4server but maybe someone here know's how to handle my issue.
[23:40] <L1nuxRules> This is the busiest Linux channel and Ubuntu is doing good stuff desktop wise +1 Ubuntu
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> I unfortunately cannot launch links ATM... so I can't see the website you linked to
[23:40] <bazhang> !ot | L1nuxRules
[23:40] <L1nuxRules> whats croping mmy txt ffs
[23:41] <L1nuxRules> sorry bazhang
[23:41] <happyface> bekks: or put that in .profile!
[23:41] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, please stop with the random commentary
[23:41] <L1nuxRules> no one is asking though?
[23:41] <bekks> happyface: Well, that would be the way for doing that with a dedicated irc user account on the server, yes.
[23:42] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, that does not make this the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic is for that
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> L1nuxRules: This is a support forum, people will ask when they are ready... idle commentary makes it hard to follow support help others are offering
[23:42] <bekks> happyface: But thats a good point, I have to separate my user accounts a bit more :P
[23:42] <L1nuxRules> ^^ I understand
[23:42] <Richiie> bekks: maybe you could help me to solve the issue im having ?
[23:42] <bekks> Richiie: Please summarize your issue again.
[23:43] <Richiie> bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:44] <Richiie> bekks: the summary is that i followed the documentation there, but i cant give it a go i dont really know if i typed somethign wrong based on the output on that link.
[23:44] <Richiie> but determine from the log files i think something is failing do you want me to paste them ?
[23:44] <Richiie> bekks: i did not set up another user like the guide said, i ran it on my standard user.
[23:44] <happyface> and I was right, wubi doesn't boot with software RAID :(
[23:45] <bekks> happyface: Well, ubuntu doesnt at all using a windows based software raid :)
[23:45] <happyface> bekks: it does in the live cd
[23:45] <bekks> happyface: I know that it doesnt - it cant, technically :)
[23:45] <L1nuxRules> richiie not read it all yet but the link you gave you wanted to start a service on boot? But you used the old skool and need to use init
[23:46] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, you mean upstart
[23:46] <bazhang> !upstart | L1nuxRules
[23:46] <happyface> bekks: well I can see my RAID parition with the live CD. Maybe the intel controller is really really good?
[23:46] <Richiie> L1nuxRules: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[23:47] <theborger> ok so i am reading this.  http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Displaying_Ubuntu_Linux_Applications_Remotely_(X11_Forwarding) added the ForwardX11Trusted yes
[23:47] <L1nuxRules> I dont know the formalities I learn by playing Bazhang
[23:47] <Richiie> L1nuxRules: the link there refers to the usage of vnc4server to start an virtual desktop
[23:47] <theborger> when i add that, i am unable to connnect via ssh
[23:47] <bekks> happyface: well, lets start over. Which controller do you use exactly? did you setup the software raid using windows or ubuntu?
[23:47] <Richiie> L1nuxRules: and it surely does, but i dont know how i can access the virtual desktop to really see whit my eyes that TW is launching
[23:47] <StepNjump> What should be the attributes for my ~/user/Documents?
[23:47] <bazhang> L1nuxRules, dont give advice if you dont know
[23:48] <bekks> theborger: why dont you just use ssh -X ?
[23:49] <L1nuxRules> bazhang ok sorry I dont think on that because I wouldnt follow if I dont know but alot do
[23:49] <happyface> bekks: well it's using intel rapid storage technology. I meant to asy "firmware RAID" rather than hardware/software RAID
[23:50] <happyface> s/asy/say
[23:50] <bekks> happyface: thats a clearly windows based technology.
[23:50] <geoffmcc> theborger: im not seeing at text in that page, but i had this in a bookmark from when i did it.. http://www.craigryder.com/linux-ubuntudebetc/x11-forwarding-and-ssh-for-remote-linux-ubuntu-desktop/
[23:50] <bekks> Using it, will result in seeing at least two devices with identical "raid partitions".
[23:50] <L1nuxRules> bazhang I know Linux , not as much Ubuntu but I thought your last comment was harsh.
[23:51] <happyface> bekks: from wikipedia: "Linux supports Matrix RAID through device mapper (DM-RAID) and MD-RAID"
[23:51] <bekks> happyface: matrix raid is another thing than rapid storage by intel ;)
[23:51] <nils_> I thought that Intel thing was some kind of add on card you can stick on some ASUS boards?
[23:52] <happyface> bekks: I probbaly don't know much about RAID, but that was from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Rapid_Storage_Technology
[23:52] <bekks> happyface: So which controller do you use exactly?
[23:53] <L1nuxRules> thats hw raid isnt it?
[23:53] <soreau> what the heck is wrong with gimp. If you try to open a jpeg image without .jpg extension, it says unkown file type
[23:53] <bekks> happyface: first sentence in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Rapid_Storage_Technology
[23:53] <bekks> L1nuxRules: No.
[23:54] <geoffmcc> soreau: might need to talk to the folks over at gimp
[23:54] <happyface> bekks: intel P67 chipset
[23:54] <[vbm]> how can I find out which process deleted a directory/file?
[23:54] <bekks> happyface: Thats not hardware raid at all :)
[23:54] <bekks> [vbm]: Impossible.
[23:54] <happyface> bekks: I know, I thought it was software
[23:55] <happyface> bekks: but wikipedia says it's "firmware"
[23:55] <bekks> happyface: Yes it basically is. There a firmware part which is used by some windows userland application.
[23:55] <UngaHunga> Hi.  Ubuntu 11.04.  Easy question... how long will 11.04 be supported with updates?  I know it isn't LTS but I am curious...thanks!
[23:55] <L1nuxRules> errr widows
[23:56] <happyface> bekks: so how does linux see the partition? Because it definitely does
[23:56] <bazhang> UngaHunga, 18 months
[23:56] <UngaHunga> bazhang, ok thanks.
[23:56] <bekks> happyface: Well, then startup your live cd and nopaste the output of "fdisk -l".
[23:56] <[vbm]> bekks: thanks. the watch and incomplete directories I use with transmission sometimes disappear. I kind of wanted to make sure it is not something else before logging it with transmission
[23:57] <L1nuxRules> When I leaRNED lINUX IT WAS USE gOOGLE LMAO
[23:57] <stoufa> salut à tous
[23:57] <caution> why is karmic gone from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/?
[23:57] <happyface> L1nuxRules: take your arrogance elsewhere
[23:57] <jrib> !karmic | caution
[23:58] <jrib> !upgrade | caution
[23:58] <jrib> caution: it's time to upgrade to a supported release :)
[23:58] <caution> can't upgrade
[23:58] <MonkeyDust> L1nuxRules  when i learned DOS, there was no google
[23:58] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, lets move on please
[23:59] <caution> jrib: when does 10.04 expire?
[23:59] <szal> people should think about support lifetimes before installing software..
[23:59] <bekks> caution: After 5 years, server version.
[23:59] <jrib> caution: 3 years desktop support, 5 years server
[23:59] <theborger> what is the option for adding multiple ssh ports is it port,port ?