[01:25] <zus> how do i stop gwibber,  from starting up every log in? it is not working  by ticking the box in preferences
[01:29] <cjs> The XFCE panel works different from the Gnome one in its full-screen behaviour. Maximizing a window covers the button bar, and on another machine, watching a youtube video in full-screen mode doesn't make the panel go away. Is there somethin I can do to fix this?
[01:36] <bigredradio> Is there a way to get "display" in setting to see an external monitor connect to a laptop?
[01:36] <bigredradio> It only recognizes one display.
[01:36] <zus> in some applications i find  that  my apps open :behind:  the panel.
[01:37] <zus> bigredradio,  i used xrander...to see my 2nd monitor though i never got to fully test everything id like though
[01:37] <zus> how do i stop gwibber,  from starting up every log in? it is not working  by ticking the box in preferences
[01:39] <cjs> zus: the panel seems to be acting like a regular X11 window in many cases, unlike Gnome-panel.
[01:43] <zus> cjs, when i opened some applications theyre went behind the panel i had to grab and resize the app and move it, took a while to get it  just right.  never found a solution
[02:28] <zus> how do i stop gwibber,  from starting up every log in? it is not working  by ticking the box in preferences
[02:52] <zus> ??? is anyone  around  ?\
[02:52] <asterismo> hi people
[02:52] <asterismo> i need some help with XFCE
[02:54] <photon> will Xubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version also be supported for 5 years just as the 'standard' Ubuntu 12.04?
[03:06] <Artemis3> should be
[03:06] <asterismo> i noticed some problems with usb pendrives umounting under xubuntu
[03:06] <Artemis3> what problems?
[03:06] <asterismo> its hard to notice if a usb pendrive is ejected or not
[03:06] <Artemis3> haven't noticed anything myself
[03:06] <Artemis3> easy, if you see the notification and it goes quickly away, its done
[03:06] <asterismo> some error notifications are displayed at the same time as other notification is telling that cannot be unplugged because data is being written
[03:06] <asterismo> and stuff
[03:06] <asterismo> maybe a dbus miss syncronization or some
[03:06] <Artemis3> oh that doesnt sound good
[03:06] <asterismo> anybody?
[03:06] <asterismo> this happens to me in 3 different machines
[03:06] <asterismo> one P4 3.6GHz desktop
[03:06] <asterismo> Samsung Netbook Intel Atom N450
[03:06] <asterismo> and HP 6735s buissnes notebook
[03:06] <Artemis3> is that 11.10?
[03:06] <zus> how do i stop gwibber,  from starting up every log in? it is not working  by ticking the box in preferences
[03:06] <asterismo> yes
[03:06] <asterismo> xubuntu 11.10
[03:06] <asterismo> i use thunar for file manager
[03:06] <asterismo> and i think thunar-volman for volume management
[03:06] <Artemis3> you mean gwibber preferences? there is a place in xfce configuration to autostart apps
[03:09] <asterismo> every time i eject a usb pendrive i have no clearly visible feedback
[03:09] <zus> Artemis3,  yeah
[03:11] <zus> on the  gwibber app there is a start on login.... which i dont  want, it istn ticked, and  it is not showing up in the session startup  but it beins  anyways.... most annoying
[03:31] <photon> Any developers around?
[03:31] <photon> or team/project managers?
[03:41] <bazhang> photon, whats the actual question
[03:43] <photon> will Xubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop version be also supported for 5 years just as the 'standard' Ubuntu 12.04? I'm currently moving away from Ubuntu because of Unity and so far Debian and Xubuntu are on the table (I'm looking for a distro that is really stable and supported for a long time). Xubuntu 12.04 LTS getting security updates for 5 years would be a huge plus. AFAIK, the only thing that needs to be done is providing security updates for XFCE for 5
[03:43] <photon> years, as the rest of the packages are already taken care of by the standard Ubuntu version.
[03:48] <zus> how do i stop gwibber,  from starting up every log in? it is not working  by ticking the box in preferences
[03:57] <bazhang> photon, my guess is yes as to the 5 year LTS desktop thing. I would need to confirm however
[04:20] <zus> ok does any one  know wot is up with gwibber? seriously  ive been sasking  for  hours now \
[04:20] <zus> yes  or no at this  point owuld be  nice
[05:23] <starn> hello, can anyone help me with Ampache with Apache???
[05:27] <cjs> photon: So Unity is a problem, but Gnome 3 isn't?
[05:28] <cjs> Or is Debian not moving to Gnome 3?
[05:28] <cjs> Seems to me that if Gnome 3 isn't an issue, you can just use the standard Gnome 3 profile rather than the Unity one with Ubuntu, can't you?
[05:29] <cjs> (I'm curious because I recently moved to XUbuntu to get away from Gnome 3.)
[05:40] <starn> can someone help me with my issues with ampache?? everything appears to be setup correctly but i go to http://localhost/ampache and it gives me a 404 error.. yet when i go to it without the /ampache it loads the page apache comes with saying it works.. so it has to be something with configurations or ampache..
[05:46] <photon> cjs: I can't answer the first two questions (haven't tried Gnome 3 yet, but it's a good point). And from what I heard you have to use Unity with standard Ubuntu 12.04.
[05:57] <cjs> Oh, really? So 12.04 won't offer the regular Gnome 3 interface?
[05:57] <well_laid_lawn> !12.04
[05:58] <cjs> What fun. I'm glad I'm off that merry-go-round, even though it's introduced a whole host of new minor problems.
[06:51] <StormStrikes> Im hoping someone can help.  Just did the recent updates which included updating Firefox to v8 I believe  Now it wont launch.  Can anyone help diagnose?
[06:53] <well_laid_lawn> StormStrikes: tried launching it from a terminal to see if there are errors?
[06:53] <well_laid_lawn> iirc firefox doesn't print much in the way of errors
[06:53] <StormStrikes> I tried that and it just sat there and reported no errors.
[06:53] <Unit193> Not so much, but firefox -safe-mode may also help
[06:54] <StormStrikes> let me try that
[06:54] <StormStrikes> Okay, safe mode launched it.
[06:55] <StormStrikes> Anything I need to check while I have it up to see whats wrong
[06:55] <Unit193> Well, you can disable some addons that may cause issues (Ubufox is one I did, and may have some others too )
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> does -safe-mode just use a default profile or something?
[06:56] <Unit193> Last used profiole, you can add -p to pick
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> o k
[06:57] <StormStrikes> Ahh, okay.  Well crap, I wish I had known I could still set up profiles in Firefox.  Its been a long time since I have used that, thought it was gone.
[06:59] <homebrewcider> Hi there, fresh install of Xubuntu 11.04, but the screen res starts at 1600 x 1200, I change it to 1440 x 900, which is right for my monitor, but the changes don't stick when I restart
[07:00] <well_laid_lawn> try saving the session
[07:02] <StormStrikes> well_laid_lawn, thank you.  Firefox is launching normally now.  Lost my profile somehow, but thank God I back up my bookmarks and speed dials regularly.
[07:02] <homebrewcider> see if that works
[07:02] <homebrewcider> back soon
[07:03] <well_laid_lawn> StormStrikes: Unit193 had the clue ;)
[07:03] <StormStrikes> Yeah, after the update, it launched to the check addon compatability with the new version and locked up.  But I could not get it to launch again to check and see which if any were causing an issue.
[07:05] <StormStrikes> But whatever it was is not causing an issue anymore.  I only use four addons, print to pdf, speeddials, download helper and foxy proxy
[07:06] <StormStrikes> But thank you also to Unit193 for the command to boot up into safe mode.  Whatever it was, that one launch to safemode cleared things up
[07:06] <StormStrikes> Im writing that command down so I dont forget it...
[07:40] <Unit193> Awesome
[10:53] <dimax> hello! I have truble with resilution on my screen i need 1280x1024 but xrandr  show maximum 1024x768  vga S3 Via Unichrome Pro, any ideas?
[10:55] <SuibaruX> Hey, how is the package with all the codec plugins called? (good bad ugly)
[11:28] <bazhang> gstreamer, you mean?
[11:28] <bazhang> whoops
[12:43] <xubuntu329> alo
[12:44] <xubuntu329> a instalação ta travada
[13:07] <olbi> hello
[13:07] <olbi> some1 could jelp me with empathy
[13:07] <olbi> I change characters in names on jabber account
[13:08] <pkundu> i want to boot xubuntu 11.10 in runlevel 3 by default. how to do that.thanks for help
[13:08] <olbi> when I type polish type: ą, ę, etc it shows bush, but on gajim it works fine
[13:08] <olbi> on channel empathy, they can't help me
[13:13] <ragnarok> Hey. I go at system > additional drivers and i see 2 options for my gpu: 1) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver 2) ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post release updates).
[13:13] <ragnarok> which to select?
[13:14] <olbi> you should take the newest
[13:14] <olbi> check in info after mark one of them
[13:14] <ragnarok> what is post release updates about?
[13:15] <ragnarok> the info is the same
[13:15] <olbi> post release updates - updates after release of main release like patches
[13:15] <olbi> take second and try
[13:15] <ragnarok> so this is enabled
[13:15] <ragnarok> at the same time as the first?
[13:16] <ragnarok> or disables it
[13:16] <olbi> disable one of them
[13:37] <someone6546> Hi, I recently switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu and some windows (e.g. audacious or pavucontrol) are really hard to resize by grabbing them at the corner, because the area where you can do this is very small (1 pixel?). Is there a way to fix this?
[13:38] <knome> someone6546, press the super(windows) key, right-click and drag
[13:38] <someone6546> hmm, doesn't work
[13:39] <knome> did you keep both the super key and right mouse button down while dragging?
[13:39] <someone6546> yes
[13:39] <knome> try alt
[13:40] <someone6546> that works
[13:40] <knome> okay
[13:40] <knome> good
[13:40] <someone6546> but is there no way to make the area, where you can grab the window larger
[13:44] <knome> someone6546, not withtout changing the xfwm theme
[13:44] <knome> someone6546, or modifying the current
[13:44] <someone6546> ok, thanks
[15:37] <samuel_> hi. i recently installed the latest xubuntu and now i
[15:37] <samuel_> am already running out of disk space. how to free up some space?
[15:38] <samuel_> i wonder how could i already be using >5gb even though i have only installed wine
[15:40] <olbi> how much space do you have on hdd and what partiton you create?
[15:41] <samuel_> 76 mb free space currently
[15:41] <samuel_> i don
[15:41] <samuel_> not want to fix this by repartitioning, i just want to remove all the stuff that i do not need
[15:44] <samuel_> just found the "delete packages after installation" which freed up some 600 mb
[15:45] <olbi> so do it :D
[15:46] <olbi> sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:46] <olbi> how much space do you add for root partition?
[15:51] <samuel_> well. i guess that solved my problem for now. 600mb is enough i guess. so autoremove is the same as that gui option i mentioned?
[15:52] <samuel_> i stil feel puzzled why xubuntu takes all that space. i installed this because i thought this was lightweight, but not sure about that
[15:53] <holstein> you can find lighter... its still relatively small considering what all is there
[15:53] <samuel_> also this seems quite slow. x11vnc server running and moving one window around desktop gives me 100% cpu util
[15:53] <holstein> you can fire up *any* package manger and remove what you like
[15:53] <holstein> i just use vino since i am used to it
[15:55] <Sysi> samuel_: I think vnc just is like that
[15:55] <samuel_> well considering removing apps from the synaptic is slow. i had to check multiple boxes just to remove gimp. removing software from the "ubuntu software center" is even slower as it refreshes itself after a single package removal and gives 5-10 sec 100% cpu util again
[15:55] <Sysi> you could try ssh-X-forwarding or something
[15:56] <holstein> or nx
[15:56] <holstein> http://www.nomachine.com/
[15:56] <samuel_> also as said i do not know what is there to uninstall anymore. uninstalling "mail" will cause the soft center to suggest removing bunch of essential looking xfce packages...
[15:57] <holstein> http://freenx.berlios.de/
[15:57] <holstein> samuel_: yeah... when you remove software, things change
[15:57] <samuel_> i'd suggest a checkbox for installation: "bloat" on/off :)
[15:57] <samuel_> so vino is more lightweight than x11vnc?
[15:58] <holstein> samuel_: sure, and i suggest maybe checking out lubuntu, or maybe starting with a CLI install and adding what you want
[15:58] <holstein> add XFCE or LXDE and go from there
[15:58] <Sysi> none of that matters, it's still probably VNC issue
[15:58] <holstein> samuel_: i just used vino because thats what i know how to use
[15:59] <holstein> i think like Sysi suggests, i find its just not very effecient to fo VNC
[15:59] <Sysi> but yeah, if you want really minimal, you need to start with minimal
[15:59] <holstein> to do*
[15:59] <samuel_> is ssh-x-forward is based on x11vnc as well?
[15:59] <holstein> samuel_: no
[15:59] <Sysi> no, it's ssh
[16:02] <holstein> is this a laptop? you can usually find older PATA drives stupid cheap these days
[16:02] <samuel_> holstein, laptop
[16:02] <samuel_> well thanks for the help. i will look into those remote desktop keywords you gave me
[16:03] <holstein> you'll want to look for 'forwarding X' instead of 'remote desktop'
[16:04] <samuel_> ok
[16:05] <trucklover> test
[18:50] <zus> happy  thanksgiving (should any observe it,)
[18:51] <zus> is there an XFCE partitioning tool or is gparted the standard program? also in any linux not just for ubuntu or its spin offs?
[18:52] <Sysi> xfce doesn't have any own partition tool, use gparted
[18:53] <zus> thanks - is that pretty much the standard program for partitioning? regardless as which distro?
[18:54] <Sysi> it should be available on most distributions
[18:54] <TheSheep> yes, gparted and fdisk are the standard partitioning tools
[18:55] <Sysi> (g)parted
[18:56] <zus> G as in GNU not necessarily a Gnome  app right?
[18:56] <TheSheep> g as in gtk
[18:56] <Sysi> Gwenview id KDE app you know :)
[18:57] <TheSheep> Sysi: that's an exception, not a rule
[18:57] <zus> :)
[18:57] <Sysi> TheSheep: exactly
[18:59] <zus> thanks
[19:10] <zus> good day all!.
[19:21] <sidney> Is there a key combo to stop unresponsive programs?
[20:02] <darkstar999-away> My keyboard mute button is good at muting, but it doesn't unmute. It worked fine on ubuntu and windows. Any ideas?
[20:03] <holstein> darkstar999: mine does that too
[20:04] <holstein> did it work in the same version of ubuntu?
[20:04] <holstein> i didnt have time to test that
[20:04] <holstein> like, is it the kernel? is it XFCE vs. gnome/unity ?
[20:04] <darkstar999> holstein: yes, I can switch my session to ubuntu and it works fine
[20:04] <darkstar999> it seems to be xfce
[20:04] <darkstar999> and switch to win7 (dual boot) and it works
[20:04] <holstein> interesting... that saves me some time though
[20:04] <holstein> darkstar999: you find a bug report?
[20:05] <holstein> if you do, link me, or if you start one, and i'll mark myself
[20:05] <darkstar999> this was my first attempt at getting it fixed. i'll let you know if I find a report
[20:08] <darkstar999> holstein: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871357&highlight=xubuntu+unmute
[20:10] <darkstar999> holstein: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/886447
[20:45] <darkstar999> where do I set default applications in xubuntu?
[21:39] <aeson> Check out this website--http://rationallyparanoid.com
[21:39] <knome> aeson, please do not advertise.
[23:49] <housiemousie2> Hello.  My Dad's machine and mine have both lost the right-click menu on the desktop.  Anyone have this issue, or possibly know how to fix it?  The problem is not present in a Guest session...
[23:50] <housiemousie2> ^11.10
[23:50] <wapiflapi> you can set that in the settings
[23:50] <wapiflapi> wait a sec, i'll tell you exactly where
[23:51] <housiemousie2> The option is and has been set.
[23:51] <wapiflapi> oh :/
[23:51] <wapiflapi> then I dont know sorry :/
[23:51] <housiemousie2> lol Thanks for trying!
[23:51] <wapiflapi> right click works fine every where else I supose ?
[23:51] <housiemousie2> Yes
[23:52] <wapiflapi> any particular software running that could alter that behaviour ?
[23:52] <housiemousie2> Dad has some kde mouse behavior tool, but I don't have it
[23:53] <housiemousie2> Both of our machines are xfce and gnome over kubuntu...
[23:53] <housiemousie2> Right click wotks in both gnome and kde
[23:53] <housiemousie2> works, even
[23:54] <wapiflapi> hum sorry i cant help you , haven't been using xfce for so long my self :/
[23:54] <wapiflapi> but keep searching / asking
[23:55] <Artemis3> what is the problem?
[23:55] <housiemousie2> I am thinking that it has to be a xfce user specific setting... just not sure where the xfce user configs are
[23:55] <housiemousie2> Hello.  My Dad's machine and mine have both lost the right-click menu on the desktop.  Anyone have this issue, or possibly know how to fix it?  The problem is not present in a Guest session...
[23:56] <housiemousie2> Sorry, just up arrowed to the first post
[23:56] <Artemis3> go to settings desktop
[23:56] <Artemis3> second tab says menus
[23:57] <Artemis3> there you can enable disable right click thing
[23:57] <wapiflapi> taht is what i sugested Artemis3 ;) he said he had done that
[23:57] <Artemis3> oh
[23:58] <housiemousie2> lol Yep, it is set the same in my (and my Dad's) user accounts and in the guest session, works in guest, not in our user sessions
[23:58] <housiemousie2> .../facepalm, let me try disable and re-enable
[23:59] <Artemis3> how about check process and see if killing one restores it?