[00:17] <slangasek> Riddell: cantor> cheers :)
[01:51] <freeflying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/748853/
[01:52] <freeflying> for who has uploaded qt4 recently please double check it
[01:52] <freeflying> this kind of failue happened at least 2 times recently
[02:01] <Riddell> freeflying: we know, it's ug 893826
[02:01] <Riddell> bug 893826
[02:32] <freeflying> Riddell: I see, thanks, you still around? :)
[02:42] <Riddell> freeflying: briefly
[12:00]  * Riddell wonders what needs to be changed for bug 893842
[12:24] <debfx> I don't think we hardcode the admin group anywhere
[12:27] <tsdgeos> fregl: ping
[12:31] <fregl> tsdgeos: pong
[12:31] <tsdgeos> fregl: trying accessible on qt 4.8 with qml, should the Accessible.Role be the property I assign?
[12:33] <fregl> tsdgeos: we are not releasing accessible qml with 4.8
[12:33] <tsdgeos> really?
[12:33] <tsdgeos> i see lots of code in there
[12:33] <fregl> tsdgeos: ubuntu patches I presume
[12:33] <tsdgeos> nope, it's a clean copy
[12:33] <tsdgeos> or maybe not :D
[12:33]  * tsdgeos git stats
[12:34] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:34] <tsdgeos> not clean
[12:34]  * tsdgeos hits himself
[12:34] <tsdgeos> fregl: sorry for the noise then
[12:34] <fregl> I can point you to our research repo. we will only release this when it's in sensible shape with 5.0
[12:34]  * tsdgeos goes and removes all those accessible roles since are not needed for his testing
[12:35] <fregl> tsdgeos: I'm still interested, if you get to work on this stuff, ubuntu qt packages need carefull handling when updating to 4.8...
[12:35] <fregl> just so you know
[12:35] <tsdgeos> yeah probably evertything will break with that huge a11y patch :D
[12:35] <tsdgeos> don't think that'll fall in my shoulders
[12:36] <tsdgeos> but thanks for the heads up
[12:36] <fregl> tsdgeos: I would recommend taking the patches again from our 4.8 branch where they originally come from... and that time including the bugfixes in there...
[12:36] <fregl> but ok, I don't have time for that either, I just hope it works nicely then
[12:36] <tsdgeos> he he
[12:36] <tsdgeos> cheers
[12:40] <txwikinger> Ever since oneiric, whenever I close the lid on my netbook everything freezes. On my laptop everytthing is fine.
[13:05] <Riddell> debfx: found one, userconfig :)
[13:51] <debfx> I think we should revive the "firefox as default browser" debate since we now have the cd space to actually switch to it
[13:56] <Riddell> CD size is expected to be 700MB still
[13:57] <Riddell> ubuntu desktop don't want to change for LTS
[14:03] <debfx> yes, but we can still switch to 750MB images for kubuntu, right?
[14:07] <Riddell> we could, and it would be interesting to see what the reaction would be, but it would also risk alienating people who still like CDs
[14:11] <debfx> another option would be to reduce the dvd image to < 1 or 2 GB like ubuntu and advertise that as our main distribution medium
[14:15] <Riddell> debfx: is that what they did for oneiric?
[14:17] <debfx> Riddell: the ubuntu desktop dvd image is now a 1.5GB usb image but I don't think it's advertised much on ubuntu.com
[15:13] <Riddell> afiestas: do you know anything about kremotecontrol using libsolidcontrol?
[15:14] <Riddell> bcooksley says it should depend on it but there's nothing in the sources that links to it
[15:37] <allee> startkde bug: 1st login: failed write .kde/share/config/kdeglobals as config dir does not exits.  Patch at http://paste.ubuntu.com/749357/
[15:37] <allee> not really worth a time consuming bug report, isn't it?
[15:40] <Riddell> allee: looking
[15:52] <allee> I've moved the config dir creation before the if ... containing cat >> .kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[15:54] <Riddell> allee: paste.kde.org prefered over paste.ubuntu.com, p.u.c requires login for download
[15:55] <allee> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/150998/
[15:56] <allee> in linux the 3 mkdir can be replaced by the last one, but I'm not sure if it's portable to other *ix
[15:58] <highvoltage> Riddell: hi! did kubuntu apply for lts status yet?
[15:59] <Riddell> allee: put into bzr thanks
[15:59] <Riddell> highvoltage: no, Darkwing said he'd work on the proposal
[15:59] <Riddell> not sure if he's done so yet
[15:59] <Riddell> hopefully will propose at tech board meeting on monday
[15:59] <Riddell> highvoltage: how's edubuntu getting on?
[15:59] <allee> Riddell: thx.
[16:02] <highvoltage> Riddell: whether we go 3 years or 5 years depends on what kubuntu does, since we have so much kde in there
[16:02] <Riddell> we're expecting for 5
[16:02] <highvoltage> Riddell: I think I'll just put the kubuntu conditional in our proposal then and add it to the TB agenda like that
[16:02] <highvoltage> ok, great.
[16:15] <afiestas> Riddell: it is an old dependency all the infrared code was moved away to a separate library
[16:15] <Riddell> afiestas: do you know which?
[16:18] <afiestas> Riddell: nope
[16:19] <Riddell> afiestas: ok so kremotecontrol doesn't depend on solid now?
[16:20] <afiestas> Riddell: since KDE 4.3 I think or maybe 4.4 Solid::Control only contains NetworkManagement stuff, to be removed in 4.9
[16:21] <Riddell> thanks
[16:22] <afiestas> np
[17:26] <JackyAlcine> Hey, I want to produce a mockup for KNewStuff and I always wondered why there wasn't a central spot to get new stuff as well upload straight from one UI.
[17:26] <JackyAlcine> Who would I show the mockup to and how I can get started on development with KNewStuff?
[17:33] <Riddell> JackyAlcine: that's a question for upstream KDE, #kde-devel 
[17:34] <JackyAlcine> Thanks, Riddell.
[20:34] <bambee> evening
[20:37] <Darkwing> hey bambee
[20:37] <bambee> hi :)
[20:38]  * bambee is ready for akademy-fr
[20:38] <Darkwing> :)
[20:39] <bambee> I just need to improve my english and then I will be ready for fosdem :)
[21:18] <Riddell> bambee: if you come to fosdem then you can speak french with me, my french will be perfect by then
[21:19] <bambee> Riddell: we will speak french and english together :)
[21:20] <bambee> I've just to watch a lot of series english :P (like doctor who, scrubs, how I met your mother, and south park)
[21:20] <bambee> in english *
[22:46] <Riddell> yay, I have merged all of KDE SC
[22:46] <Riddell> go me
[22:47] <Riddell> although I've a nasty feeling I've done the VCS- headers wrong on most of them
[22:47] <jjesse> yay you :)
[22:49] <Riddell> still plenty more KDE related merges to do incase anyone is wanting in on the fun :)
[22:50] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'm going to do more on that proposial tonight... is there a template for it?
[22:51] <Riddell> Darkwing: there's no template other than that wiki page I pointed at and you might be able to sneek a peek at what edubuntu have done
[22:52] <Riddell> but mention nice active community who have good track record
[22:52] <Riddell> nice active upstream
[22:52] <Riddell> canonical commercial product
[22:55] <Darkwing> aye. will do.
[22:56] <Riddell> and the whole upstream platforms focusing on 5 so 4 is nice and stable
[22:58] <Riddell> agateau: some feedback from debian 22:55 < pinotree> gwenview should tell you it cannot import because it has no kamera kioslave installed
[23:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: kdesudo has your name next to it on merge-o-matic, are you going to merge it?