[03:52] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is this bad message from synaptic when updating the kernel? run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-14-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic  Error! Problems with depmod detected.  Automatically uninstalling this module.  DKMS: Install Failed (depmod problems).  Module rolled back to built state.
[03:53] <Osmodivs> Like, Do I have to worry about that?
[04:39] <rpbo> I'm trying to install Lubuntu on an old laptop, it's stalling on "log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect"
[04:40] <rpbo> After googling I tried using an ext3 partition instead of ext4 but here the install is stalled. Anyone know why?
[05:00] <phiscribe> what logon manager does lubuntu use by default?
[05:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lxdm
[05:06] <bioterror> in next cycle it will be LightDM :P
[05:06] <bioterror> or that's what have bee said
[05:08] <phiscribe> thankx,
[05:08] <phiscribe> does it go sometimes by a diffrent process name
[05:09] <bioterror> all you have to do is: sudo service lxdm stop/restart/start
[05:10] <phiscribe> trying to killall
[05:10] <bioterror> haha
[05:10] <phiscribe> i think the default got changed, i just wanna drop out of x
[05:10] <bioterror> init 3 in tty
[05:11] <bioterror> have you ever played doom?
[05:11] <phiscribe> i still want to swing my shotgun and shoot when someone taps me on the shoulder
[05:11] <bioterror> yeah, but like on the hardest level on doom, lxdm too reswapns if you dont stop it or go to the init level 3
[05:12] <bioterror> respawns
[05:13] <phiscribe> ok im cheating, its not lubunut, but its zentyal and i though it was using lxdm
[05:14] <bioterror> yes
[05:14] <bioterror> Zentyal is horrible
[05:14] <phiscribe> im looking at horrible options this week
[05:15] <bioterror> are you looking for a router/firewall?
[05:15] <bioterror> or should it also wipe and feed you?
[05:15] <phiscribe> looking for simple enough interface for someone that thinks windows is the computer
[05:15] <bioterror> Zentyal is a routing/firewalling what ever dingle dong
[05:15] <phiscribe> buisness server, groupware, telephony, mail, social gateways
[05:16] <bioterror> :G
[05:17] <phiscribe> something that can be dmz for network
[05:17] <phiscribe> ect ect
[05:18] <phiscribe> but i got it in a vm just to look at, dont care for the distro, i just wanna see what it's parts are
[05:18] <bioterror> I'm using pfSense in my home for routing and firewalling
[05:18] <bioterror> it does it 100twohunder times better than Zentyal
[05:18] <phiscribe> i got lubuntu on 3 machines and kubunt on one other, antix on another,
[05:19] <phiscribe> the routing and firewall arent really that interesting, hardware can do most of that
[05:19] <bioterror> are you looking for something that does all the LDAP magic?
[05:20] <phiscribe> captive portal, yeah, active directory, groupware, mail, telephony, (sip, video conf), like i said, im looking at its parts mostly
[05:20] <phiscribe> cloud backup of configurations
[05:24] <phiscribe> but something a secratary with a high school degree can use, and if not configure, follow instructions on how to
[05:26] <phiscribe> most places i see still use IE6, ok thats the level im talking
[05:26] <bioterror> Windows 2008 R2
[05:26] <bioterror> my weapon of choice
[05:27] <bioterror> :--)
[05:27] <phiscribe> you say linux to them, you can watch their balls go inside their body, but say android like and they say how much will you charge me?
[05:27] <bioterror> yep
[05:27] <bioterror> and they also seems to like iPhone too
[05:28] <phiscribe> iAndorid, hey there's a marketing ploy hehe
[05:28] <bioterror> as I've been assagined to work in a Media business corporation, I see people talking about a lot about macs
[05:28] <bioterror> and how they are supreme :D
[05:29] <phiscribe> so it looks like all it is ubuntu with a web gui, maybe ebox? is that it?
[05:29] <bioterror> Zentyal = Ebox
[05:29] <fonsi> hello
[05:30] <fonsi> Can someone lead me to a very basic tutorial for lubuntu?
[05:30] <phiscribe> its the fonz heeeeeeey
[05:30] <fonsi> haha hey
[05:30] <phiscribe> just hit like its a jukebox
[05:30] <bioterror> *applause* :D
[05:30] <bioterror> stay tuned for more happy days
[05:30] <fonsi> I already know how to install packages but I aside from that I don't know much more, I wanna get the most out of linux...
[05:31] <fonsi> ??
[05:31] <phiscribe> well fonsi, what do you do with your computer? is it entertainment...what kind?  business...what kind?  porn collecting?  (dont tell me what kind)
[05:32] <fonsi> Traditionally entertainment, but I wanna learn more... as much as possible
[05:32] <fonsi> how to use the command line to start?
[05:32] <bioterror> ?? console
[05:32] <bioterror> damn
[05:32] <bioterror> !console
[05:32] <phiscribe> open a terminal to start, aka console
[05:33] <fonsi> done
[05:33] <fonsi> I kinda know how to navigate through the directories
[05:33] <phiscribe> type ls
[05:33] <phiscribe> lISt
[05:33] <fonsi> mhm, shows me a list of all the non-hidden files on the current directory, right?
[05:33] <phiscribe> cd .. to go up  cd dirname to navigate,
[05:34] <Unit193> fonsi: Type   info
[05:34] <bioterror> fonsi, then you're ready to go and install Gentoo with stage
[05:34] <phiscribe> type help, but readly print a linux cheat sheet from teh web someplace
[05:34] <fonsi> what's gentoo?
[05:34] <fonsi> any sugestions for a good cheat sheet?
[05:34] <bioterror> !console | fonsi
[05:35] <phiscribe> a diffrent distrobution of linux (gentoo)  more advanced, not for novice, but gives you much more granularity
[05:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> apt-get install mc is beter :)
[05:35] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, ranger!
[05:35] <fonsi> But I am a novice, am I not?
[05:35] <phiscribe> he said "when your ready"
[05:35] <fonsi> Oh, didn't see that.
[05:35] <phiscribe> well maybe he just implied it hehe
[05:36] <fonsi> what's the mc package?
[05:36] <bioterror> fonsi, apt-cache search midnight commander
[05:36] <phiscribe> midnight commandar, a file manger for the command line that has a what the word....well gui is the word but like a frame buffer gui not a pretty windows gui
[05:36] <bioterror> fonsi, apt-cache show mc |less
[05:36] <phiscribe> i think they want to confuse teh fonz
[05:37] <phiscribe> monday tuesday happy days, wed thur confuse a noob day
[05:37] <fonsi> haha
[05:37] <fonsi> no shame in being a noob, at least I saw the light
[05:37] <bioterror> phiscribe, today we listen to The Cure
[05:37] <bioterror> fonsi, it's the train!
[05:38] <phiscribe>  nerds doing karaoke (the cure)
[05:38] <fonsi> Already got MC
[05:38] <fonsi> how do I run it?
[05:38] <fonsi> just type it in terminal?
[05:38] <phiscribe> i dont use it, but im guessing type mc
[05:38] <phiscribe> then use the tab and arrow keys
[05:39] <bioterror> me neither, I've got zsh ;)
[05:40] <phiscribe> but, typing pcmanfm is probably friendlier....here is a HUGE tip, the & sign  typing pcmanfm will not allow you to enter anything untill the applicaion closes or you open a new console, BUT if you type pcmanfm &       the & tells it to run as a background process
[05:40] <fonsi> are those substitutes for the terminal?
[05:40] <fonsi> nice, thx
[05:40] <bioterror> phiscribe, how you get it off from the background?
[05:41] <phiscribe> get its felonies expunged?
[05:41] <fonsi> ok so I just ran it
[05:41] <bioterror> phiscribe, fg, ofcourse
[05:41] <bioterror> just like when suspending irc client :D
[05:42] <phiscribe> im not sure, i mean u can kill it
[05:42] <bioterror> with fire!
[05:42] <JohnDoe_71Rus> don't shoot them
[05:43] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/
[05:43] <fonsi> After I install a package and it doesnt appear on any of the menus, how do I run it?
[05:43] <bioterror> the package doesnt have a .desktop file which is read by the menu
[05:43] <fonsi> mc?
[05:43] <bioterror> dpkg -L package |less
[05:43] <bioterror> look for /bin or /usr/bin
[05:44] <phiscribe> some apps dont make a menu entry, or the menu entries need refreshed, you are using lxde, so its simple, but simple means lean
[05:44] <phiscribe> then u use console to launch it
[05:44] <fonsi> But how will I know the command?
[05:44] <phiscribe> which came first, chicken or egg
[05:44] <bioterror> fonsi, dpkg -L package |grep bin/
[05:44] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: great! demons and zoomby
[05:45] <phiscribe> that was to produce a zen moment hopefully, dont get lost looking at the leaves when you need to see the forest, or even a sattilite map
[05:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: mc has .desktop file but it don't run. need change command "lxterminal -e mc"
[05:46] <phiscribe> that is, do what you love, you like entertianment, learn how to use the video player, or watch movies, or get music, following your passion, you will learn, it will take time
[05:46] <bioterror> haha
[05:46] <fonsi> I ran dpkg -L package |less
[05:47] <phiscribe> and be a googlefu mater
[05:47] <fonsi> and it gave me
[05:47] <bioterror> no
[05:47] <fonsi> Package `package' is not installed.
[05:47] <fonsi> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[05:47] <fonsi> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[05:47] <fonsi> (END)
[05:47] <bioterror> fonsi, common sense
[05:47] <bioterror> it's not forbidden to use it
[05:47] <phiscribe> syntax for commands is not intuitive, unless you are well, weird
[05:48] <phiscribe> it takes itme
[05:48] <phiscribe> time that is
[05:50] <fonsi> Ok so I just ran                                           dpkg -L package |less
[05:50] <fonsi> for one of my packages
[05:50] <fonsi> what does that command tell me? the package's location?
[05:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> locate
[05:50] <bioterror> -L lists the contents of the package
[05:50] <bioterror> and where it put all the files
[05:50] <bioterror> fonsi, Fri07:44 <bioterror> fonsi, dpkg -L package |grep bin/
[05:51] <fonsi> I just tried runnind that one and didn't work
[05:51] <bioterror> why it didnt work?
[05:51] <fonsi> Idk... I mean the second one this one
[05:51] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Shells/Basic_Console_Commands.html
[05:52] <fonsi> nice thx
[05:52] <bioterror> :~% dpkg -L irssi |grep bin/
[05:52] <bioterror> /usr/bin/botti
[05:52] <bioterror> /usr/bin/irssi
[05:52] <bioterror> works like a charm1
[05:53] <fonsi> what does the grep bin one do?
[05:53] <bioterror> grep where is all the binaries from the package
[05:54] <fonsi> And how does that help me? If I know where the binaries are I can run them?
[05:54] <bioterror> exactly
[05:54] <bioterror> and you get the command
[05:55] <fonsi> is the command in one of those files?
[06:40] <fonsi> does anywhere here use the dict package?
[06:40] <bioterror> I use dictionary
[06:41] <fonsi> Ok so how do I tell it wich dictionary do I want it to search the word in?
[06:41] <fonsi> which database
[06:41] <bioterror> dict -D
[06:42] <bioterror> and then -d --database <dbname>    select a database to search
[06:42] <bioterror> fonsi, man man
[06:42] <fonsi> thx
[07:41] <reflexrg> lubuntu software center search doesn't work
[07:41] <reflexrg> :(
[09:58] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lxdm support xdmcp?
[15:35] <leszek> hi
[18:59] <leszek> re